psyker-class

[potent echo]

So you can stagger one whole group of maulers/ragers while having 5 blazeaway stacks, not broken at all

[rancid geyser]

ngl Blaze away is deleting pack and im only at 6 damage

actually kinda like it ty for the info

[summer prairie]

min charge rmb also keeps it up if you don't have flurry

[vestal fulcrum]

briefly quelling should also stop you from dropping BA

[rancid geyser]

well i was feeling it out on Damnation, I like the crit but i am now seeing that blaze away legit just does more

even when i hit 55% crit

with the other blessing

[vestal fulcrum]

unless I messed up during testing and it was a different action that caused it

[rancid geyser]

like a half charged alt fire just deletes trash mobs, which is what i kinda wanted

[slow raven]

hey guys i havent played in a minute, is it still possible to buff your assail damage with uncanny strike? or buff your soulblaze damage with slaughterer?

[rancid geyser]

it takes like 60% of rager HP too

[potent echo]

It's still sometimes better to pull out your melee though

[rancid geyser]

yeah but i can pull my melee out when they are actually in my face, no long animation at all

[vestal fulcrum]

Hey,

1. No.
2. Yes.

[broken carbon]

no to assail, yes to DoT damage with uncanny, and i think slaughterer too

[vestal fulcrum]

Slaughterer is a power level modifier, so it should affect DoTs as well, yep

[potent echo]

DoT damage inherits whatever weapon you have active

[vestal fulcrum]

Uncanny probably does also, but that's a different interaction

[slow raven]

thankssss. weird how the 2nd one works but not the 1st isn't it? did they specifically target a fix for the uncanny/assail interaction or is there a more general change they made?

[broken carbon]

it does, has for a while now

[broken carbon]

first one

[potent echo]

They fix no. 1 because they hate us

[vestal fulcrum]

It was a targeted fix, yes

[broken carbon]

(assail is already really strong)

(it does not need to be able to kill carapace)

[potent echo]

But also did they remember to fix the puncture bug lmao

[slow raven]

psykers truly are the most oppressed in the imperium

[potent echo]

Or are bleed assails still real

[broken carbon]

i’m pretty sure it was patched

[potent echo]

Unless

It was working last patch still

[broken carbon]

oh

then maybe not

idk man i just work here

[potent echo]

Sir this isn't a Wendy's

[slow raven]

wait, bleed assails? lol

lacerate on combat blade?

[vestal fulcrum]

of course they didn't fix that

[broken carbon]

(ma’am*)

i’ll work wherever i damn please

[atomic swan]

for now, i just want they fix Warp Unbound

[potent echo]

Fixshark

Forgorshark

[near wyvern]

Why it doesn't surprise me that it doesn't work as it should

[atomic swan]

there are some sharp stones

[frozen loom]

not sure where else to ask but what are good guns for gun psyker?
I assume columnus infantry and zarona revolver are a given, with standard-ish blessings?

[atomic swan]

The guns that you make them work

columnus IAG is a no-brainer because it has the best base power to work with

[frozen loom]

I'll need to try to get a decent one I guess. one I have has ammo as dump stat

[atomic swan]

How about high peril cleave Lawbringer SP round horde clean shotgun
Budget Ogryn Kickback

[primal plume]

are these good for inferno./

[potent echo]

Lesgooo 🫃

Manstopper DBs

With assail, match made in heaven

[atomic swan]

They look fun but i dont think that they are worth

[vestal fulcrum]

I think somebody did mention that they don't work with Inferno

[quartz barn]

I dont use purg lmb as a dmg tool

[vestal fulcrum]

At least the primary attack one doesn't

[quartz barn]

I just use it for the stagger

[vestal fulcrum]

Channeled force should work

[frozen loom]

Empyric shock might be good after stacking burn with charged secondary? but idk if worth, esp with it being gated by perilous assault

[atomic swan]

sounds good for killing bosses

yeah i dont like theres a road block too

[potent echo]

It's probably a electrokinetic/voidblast thing

[vast hare]

How does one quell cancel on staff primary without using a macro? I've been told its not difficult, but staff primary already shoots pretty fast..

[potent echo]

You spend hours practicing

Or don't 🤷‍♂️

[gusty canopy]

Not really that important. You can play without that trick

[atomic swan]

I only do primary attack for finishing blow, its easy to do few quell cancel manually
sometime will use the macro for the funny

[astral cape]

So, what weapons are people using with melee psyker atm?

Personally I have just been using ooga booga Illisi

But, I assume that is not ideal.

[potent echo]

It's good

[frozen loom]

illisi if you're not carrying purgatus
deimos if otherwise.
I like bringing duelling IV but I'm a scrub that brings zap sticks

[potent echo]

Everything has some plus and minuses

But some minuses are nonexistent if you pick the correct builds

[atomic swan]

illisi is easy to use
nothing wrong here

[stray pond]

Uncanny Strike illisi is particularly easy to use

[astral cape]

But, what ranged weapon do people use next to Illisi. Since atleast with the blessings I am running which is just double power blessing. I do need sth to deal with carapace. Although brain burst kinda does the job. And I can still melt them rather quickly with sth like a gun. But, ammo :/

And I mean. Double power blessing is just what I got recommended by a friend. 😓

[atomic swan]

people rather have deimos or duelling sword for quicker single target kill
since the staff or career skill can do the horde cleaning

[potent echo]

10 crushers

Melee is for those situations

Unless you have void

Lol

[stray pond]

I generally run Electrokinetic and Illisi but I've been meaning to swap off Illisi more often

[proven beacon]

The solution is the unwieldy aim of the voidblast, formerly known as trauma, staffs clearly

[stray pond]

Speaking of Electrokinetic I wish to know what the forbidden unlisted Blessing is, I desire it

[potent echo]

Voidblast or voidstrike both own crushers

[proven beacon]

Or paralyse them with smite and hopefully your teammates have the presense of mind to kill them

[astral cape]

I heard somewhere as well. That voidstrike benefits greatly from warp splitting as well.

Is that right?

[atomic swan]

yep

[astral cape]

Aight. Cool.

Might wna try that out then.

Finally can post this. Got promoted 🫡

[atomic swan]

but i wanna tell you that you can just Surge (the blessing one)

[proven beacon]

Ah, crystaline will. A new favourite must have talent for me whenever I'm not using vent talent

[stray pond]

Man, Crystalline Will looks like it would give me so many bad habits

[astral cape]

😂

It does

One of my friends has had it perma slotted ever since it got released. Since he has the situational awareness of a potato.

It is kinda funny. Atleast he isn't going down as much anymore.

[quartz barn]

Worth i guess?

[astral cape]

I guess?

[quartz barn]

Tbh my awareness is ass too, i just listen to sound

[atomic swan]

sometimes bad things happen

[stray pond]

Compared to the Illisi and Deimos, how does the Obscurus force sword fare in this day and age

[astral cape]

Idk if I will ever be able to do Auric Maelstrom with that guy. He does want to. But, my hopes aren't that high atm.

[quartz barn]

Results in me dodging into a trapper from time to time tho

AM is more about killing power rather than raw skill

[nocturne dust]

Obscurus has no niche and is beaten out by Illisi/Deimos

[quartz barn]

Its only difficult when you have someone on the team who either barely clears enemies or is simply slow

So others have to deal with more enemies

New train mission is a good example

[stray pond]

Kinda what I was expecting, what a shame

[frozen loom]

oh wow crystalline will seems like a major crutch.
I should slot that in

[vast hare]

I have learned that Zarona Lawbringer is god with disrupt destiny and scriers. Just fuckin blasts through shit

[potent echo]

Yuh

[vast hare]

drinks ammo like a fish tho

[nocturne dust]

This is why we have staves

or at least, why I have staves

[restive ice]

they should make a staff that uses dockets to shoot

[potent echo]

Voidbezos

[frozen loom]

don't you still die if you overshoot twice

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but I would presume it resets your peril to 0%. Wouldn't know though, never even bothered to test Crystalline Will.

[wind spruce]

What blessings you running

[vast hare]

Scattershot and Man-stopper

with scriers, crit aura, crit talent, and crit perk you get 90% crit chance

and thus infinite cleave on the wideshot, all of which hits heads

Add having both disrupt destiny and scrier's up with massive damage bonuses

and you can onetap the heads of just about anything, in a wide area

basically instakill an entire hallway

But the bane of existence here is ammo and crushers/bulwarks

[mossy oyster]

this is the truth

[nocturne dust]

68%

[astral cape]

Ye. But, as it goes with people with bad situational awareness. He becomes a lot more alert when he is on the edge of dying xd

[quartz barn]

Just gonna put a here so i can find this when i decide to set up my gunker talents again

[upper sun]

73 damage brick

[mossy oyster]

its 80 now

[radiant frigate]

insane setup tbh

souldrinker with pc being the only soulblaze trigger

[summer prairie]

if you already have a few toughness generation nodes, even +15 base toughness node seems more valuable than Mettle with most builds

with toughness curios

[radiant frigate]

i like the zippiness

(and the fact that it leads into perfect timing)

[mossy oyster]

apparently according to other siblings you just have to kill whatever is affected by soulblaze

doesnt need to die to the soulblaze itself

[radiant frigate]

i know but it is still the only source of soulblaze

for a conditional 5% crit

[mossy oyster]

im doing it more so for toughness

since im gonna be killing everything in scriers

regen toughness + TDR from the scrier node

keep critting and just killing shit to keep scriers up longer

also im using mk6 knife so uncanny buffing soulblaze moment

[mossy oyster]

i dont really think this is an issue but it can be argued if you arent doing HISTG or Maelstroms often

i can see the argument

[rich spindle]

the only souce of fire is PC, I dont think thats gonna spread enough to regen toughness more than the quell node

it'll probably be fine though

[mossy oyster]

it is fine

I actively play it in aurics

[rich spindle]

that looks fun to try with bloodshirsty + blaze illisi

[mossy oyster]

lmfao

[wind spruce]

PC is definitely enough for souldrinker by itself

And blazing spirit should never be run on force swords for anything but a meme

[mossy oyster]

I more or less did the same setup a few talents were swapped around with BT/Uncanny illisi

very memey

but I hate FSword mobility/dodges

[rich spindle]

yeah. fun

[mossy oyster]

i need the mobility to get max fun out of scriers

helps with DBarrel gameplay too

[short lily]

Would flak/maniac or flak/carapace bonuses be better on purgatus

Feel like carapace isn't gonna help much unless you plan to tickle crushers to death even with the new blessing

[ebon rose]

Carapace won't do much at all
25% of the pity we get for base dmg won't help
Flak is the usual go-to i think

I tend to just run bb for crushers
Or you could do deimos i guess

Maniac also does well

[cosmic sigil]

Apparently emp shock does not work with purga lmb?

[radiant frigate]

so i heard

no burgertus lmb to cook bosses

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/chiquichico-gif-26004262

Here for reference https://youtu.be/F6X25efhk2Y?t=604&si=0dutUENXb3UETOTa

[trim garnet]

dont know why or how but i just overloaded with scriers active and the new talent that should make it impossible

using surge+assail

how strange

[mossy oyster]

its buggy with staves

currently

purg and surge are more on the likely end to bug out

[wind spruce]

I've had it happen twice with assail just as I hit 100% peril

[mossy oyster]

thankfully that hasnt happened to me yet

[wind spruce]

But that's over a few dozen games with scriers assail

[mossy oyster]

dreading when it does

[trim garnet]

are you taking the new cleave from peril talent

[wind spruce]

Yes

[trim garnet]

ive heard it gives assail bonus hits

is it good?

[wind spruce]

Yeah i like it

[trim garnet]

not really sure how to fit it in my setup tbh

i assume you want psionics

[wind spruce]

Benefits my recon lasgun, assail and melee

[trim garnet]

actually

[wind spruce]

Nah I don't run empowered psionics

[trim garnet]

disrupt is right there

hrrrm

but then i dont get

empyric resolve

(my beloved talent)

[mossy oyster]

new cleave talent is bonkers

[wind spruce]

This is my gunker build atm

[mossy oyster]

playing without the bottom keystone

doesnt feel that bad tbh

but then again im using a DBarrel and a mk6

[trim garnet]

minus the weakspot one?

for disrupt

[mossy oyster]

yea mine doesnt have weakspot = 2 stacks

[trim garnet]

its 3 stacks 🤓

[trim garnet]

does warp rider give any bps to assail

[bronze hound]

Guys, back to psyker and kinda lost, what are the prefered blessing for the electrokinetic staff? flurry and nexus? Or maybe surge is the new flavour?

[trim garnet]

or can i skip it

[mossy oyster]

I like warp rider but I dont think it gives any specific BPs

[trim garnet]

still flurry nexus, suge is lmb only

[mossy oyster]

sadly on a gunker build nowadays

warp rider is the point tax

[trim garnet]

oh i dont play gunker

Clueless

[wind spruce]

Breakpoints for assail aren't really that reliable because scriers is such a variable damage buff, weakspots aren't consistent and crits

[trim garnet]

real

[mossy oyster]

besides on a gunker, using assail is just backup DPS

or to stunlock a pack of ragers

[trim garnet]

im not sure if i should use surge

or trauma

on this

because assail has ranged horde covered

maybe just voidstrike anyways

[mossy oyster]

whats your melee

[trim garnet]

illisi

always

[wind spruce]

I've been switching between soulstealer and quietude and decided the latter is better, atleast for my recon build

Each assail is 10% peril so that's 5% toughness from quietude anyway

[mossy oyster]

I might try quietude out since I quell from TTS/crack of bone and focus on gen'ing less peril

to maintain scriers more

[bronze hound]

And would anyone link me a good build for the kinetic staff and illisi? Again, sorry, it's been months I don't touch the psyker and with the new talents it's all messed up

[mossy oyster]

true quietude might be better for what I use assail for

i.e instant toughness back in a shitty spot

soulstealer is pretty good at that tbf

but maybe quietude is better

actually yea i'll try quietude out, seems like itll cycle well with TTS/Crack of bone

[wind spruce]

Yeah I think because of TTS and COB it gets a ton of value!

[plucky flax]

Build at start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIwoaV-Dnc

[patent wing]

i think the dmg scaling is marginal compared to the utility that comes with flurry. it offers better horde control and works nice with BA

[near wyvern]

Hard disagree, more crits is more mettle procs and more soulblaze stacks. There is no difference in control with the BA since it increases your stagger such that nothing can touch you even if it was your only blessing unless it's a bulwark, crusher or a mutant.

[patent wing]

yeah its just it does not feel like it crits more often to justify it. and with flurry i can rmb the hordes and apply more CC to a bigger area and not forced to spam lmb

and with BA i mean the reset

[wind spruce]

Isn't it basically twice as much crits?

[wind spruce]

Inferno pump video is great

[summer prairie]

blaze flurry is definitely more single target dps than blaze nexus

[patent steeple]

what is BA? I still don't know most of the acronyms...

[wind spruce]

@near wyvern Is there a reason your dagger has damage as dumpstat?

[summer prairie]

if you are min charging at least

[wind spruce]

Blaze away

[vestal fulcrum]

Question to Electrokinetic staff nerds: Flurry is still preferred over Surge, right?

[wind spruce]

Absolutely

[summer prairie]

surge is higher dps if you use it properly

[patent wing]

you mean in combination with the new talent?

[summer prairie]

probably don't need the new talent

[vestal fulcrum]

properly i.e., with Empyric Shock? Surge may also seem helpful re: sniping things far in the back of the direction you're aiming at

[weary crane]

Really? What if you do 2 small charges to max out charges quick?

I just feel like its more useful

Blaze away only increases damage slightly

[vestal fulcrum]

I'll settle on this for now, and yes, I've taken Puppet Master over Solidity - the latter messes up my quell timing

[patent wing]

the new shadow caster staff skin is nice btw

[weary crane]

Whereas flurry allows you to give more soulblaze stacks faster

And blaze away doesnt linger so isnt good for dot

[patent wing]

BA gives a huge dmg buff, i just say that flurry > nexus

and flurry allows you to keep up BA better

[weary crane]

Nexus is a must take, especially for my crit build

[patent wing]

nexus is overrated

less crowd control

[weary crane]

Double damage on crit

[patent wing]

crits like 1 time more in a rmb stream

[weary crane]

+100% damage basically

[patent wing]

on 30

wow

[plucky flax]

30mins 800k damage just play surge creeping flames spam it's OP.

[weary crane]

No, double soulblaze stack

[patent wing]

yeah RMB stacks soulblaze fast enough u wont feel a diff

ive tested it in psykhaneum, one rmb with and without nexus same stacks

also you go for rmb short, rmb longer, rmb max with flurry which is more dps

[summer prairie]

if you have to min charge purg due to blaze away, flurry might apply more stacks on average since you spend less time on animations

but nexus better for mettle and such

[weary crane]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bb9ee95-0b68-43d7-abd0-05c8aae4258e/crit-psyker

This is best psyker build, yall can't argue

[patent wing]

as I said, nexus is like 1 more crit in a whole rmb stream

5% more toughness < cc

[summer prairie]

on one target sure

[patent wing]

yeah but mettle ignores multiple targets anyway

[summer prairie]

not with purg

they are separate shots

[patent wing]

ah good 2 know

[quartz barn]

Which crit % are we going off of as base?

[patent wing]

but still a stream has like 5 parts only

ah no wait

its about 10 i think

[sacred crane]

Almost done with all staff masteries

God I HATE surge staff

[patent wing]

just do this

[sacred crane]

No more kaboom crowd clear

Must rely on melee and ability being 85%

[quartz barn]

Surge or surge?

Also weakspot hit lmao

[sacred crane]

Surge on surge?

[patent wing]

lmb build

[sacred crane]

No flurry and nexus?

[quartz barn]

Both dont work btw

On rmb

[weary crane]

Psyker is 7.5% base

[summer prairie]

flurry works, it just forces you to do a full charge basically

[sacred crane]

Surge is only useful on void if i remembed

[plucky flax]

Why?

[quartz barn]

That was for the nexus on purg discussion....

[sacred crane]

I like my staffs with that juicy crowd clear

[plucky flax]

Use creeping flames with it they compliment each others perfectly.

[sacred crane]

Also because I see my teammates kill the elites faster than the staff can kill them

[sacred crane]

I am

And I still hate surge >:(

[patent wing]

surge with 7,5% base crit, 15% innate weapon crit, 5% crit perk, 15% from talents + cleave talent

then go lmb build
#psyker-class message

[plucky flax]

My game just now most specials and elites by far
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1290278149543690340/image.png?ex=66fbe0ab&is=66fa8f2b&hm=1f59c2578fe0b34d7acac40bc528b78acada216ee3cfa34f4983b1a5cf744c32&

[sacred crane]

Even if my scoreboard says Im getting like 500 kills I refuse to believe that with this staff

[plucky flax]

Okay fair.

[lone wing]

surge staff is a single target damage staff

[sacred crane]

At most you can kill 2 enemies at a time per charge

[lone wing]

it chains a little but not enough to be a horde staff

does really well against bulwarks and crushers

[sacred crane]

Yah ik and I like my horde staffs

Im only using surge for the mastery since its my last staff mastery

[weary crane]

Surge + smite + heavy attack smite + shock maul

https://tenor.com/view/power-starwars-unlimited-power-gif-15939349

[patent steeple]

I actually like electrokinetic surge staff when running it with a build that uses Smite with Shriek and illisi for hordeclear.

its nowhere near as big of a favourite to me as Blaze Trauma or Meleeker with Voidstrike of course, but its still nice.

[rancid geyser]

Inferno staff with Scrier's Gaze is fun ngl might actually like psyker

[wind spruce]

I was running an 87.5% crit duelling sword earlier for the memes

[weary crane]

How did you get that number

[wind spruce]

Riposte, scriers and shred is 60%

[weary crane]

Ahhh

[wind spruce]

20% from crit node, souldrinker, prescience and weapon perk and 7.5% base

[sacred crane]

My fave staffs are trauma void and purge staff

I cannot decide which is my fave among these three

Maybe purge...i love melting elite crowds....

[weary crane]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d221d3c-124d-4f17-8311-57f691ca9698/unlimited-power-9

[mystic pike]

Hey fellas what’s the best blessings for the psyker void blast

[upper sun]

blazing spirit nexus

[mystic pike]

Serious?

[upper sun]

voidblast is the aoe stagger one not the projectile right?

they changed the names

[jovial juniper]

Yeah Trauma

[jovial juniper]

Yeah
The range of the Blazing Spirit proc is huge

So you stagger everything and set them ablaze

[mystic pike]

Ok understood

[small bronze]

Hey is secondary attack from electrokinetic count as weakspot kill ?

[upper sun]

no

only the m1 spam

[small bronze]

ok thank

[upper sun]

secondary attacks from purge surge and truma can not hit weakspots at all

and primary attacks for purge cant also

so weakspot is a wasted perk same goes for crit damage

you want flak on all of them

[patent steeple]

btw, I dunno why, but most QP games of the train map I end up in are full of people who are too slow...

seriously, the timer bar shouldn't be halfway by the time the team even reaches the second bomb defusal minigame, right?

[upper sun]

yeahhhh

my pub winrate there is like 1/5

[mystic pike]

Will this build do for the void blast psyker

Cause this is what I’m using rn

[summer prairie]

you want venting shriek with it

[mystic pike]

Not dome shield? Curious

I mean I use dome shield for obvious reasons

[summer prairie]

You can if you want but the point of the build is to have many sources of soulblaze

[mystic pike]

True but is there anything else other than soul blaze I could use?

[jovial juniper]

Well you could use Scrier's for the extra crit chance

Hmmm

Perfectionism Scrier's Trauma

[patent steeple]

not actually bad on paper if you run Crack of Bone and a good headshotting melee...

[jovial juniper]

On paper

Get the stacks from headshots

Use blaze and trauma to keep the stacks

Then High Intensity times 100

Or scab melee

[rancid geyser]

dueling swords are good at dealing with chaff and specials/elites right?

havent touched it before

[sacred crane]

Yes

[jovial juniper]

Bad horde clear for insane single target damage

[sacred crane]

They do amazing single target damage

They also have great mobility

[patent steeple]

well DS4 is especially bad at hordeclear, but DS2 is less bad at it...

[rancid geyser]

good vs cruchers?

[sacred crane]

Can 2-3 shot at times

[rancid geyser]

at times? as in non consistent?

[sacred crane]

No I mean like it bounces between 2-3 headshots

Depends on your build

[rancid geyser]

what blessings?

[sacred crane]

But ALWAYS use uncanny with ir

Uncanny with riposte/precog

Then either carapace/maniac/elite

[rancid geyser]

probably guna do carapace elite

cause everything else i can melt with staff

[sacred crane]

Well maniac is preferable since it can one tap mutants

[rancid geyser]

tired of having to tickle them with staff before using 2 brain bursts just for 1

[vast hare]

Does anyone know if the "In Fire Reborn" talent under the warp charge keystone line saying "Killing an enemy with soulblaze" means "Whenever an Enemy with soulblaze dies" or "Whenever an enemy dies to Soulblaze"?

[rancid geyser]

someone told me that

i tested it

[broken carbon]

zealot doesn’t need uncanny with it

[rancid geyser]

you have to be the one that kills

[broken carbon]

but i can see the argument for psyker

[vast hare]

But does it matter if the enemy is dying TO the soulblaze or not?

Basically does it have to be a tick of the soulblaze damage that kills- or will any kind of kill do, so long as the enemy has soulblaze when they die?

[rancid geyser]

when i was in psychanum it looked like it only procced if they died to the dot

[vast hare]

Got it, worthless talent then

[rancid geyser]

im not 100% sure but i sat in that shit for like an hour

[vast hare]

well worthless unless ur using purg stick

purg stick is the only reliable way to actually get gets with soulblaze

[broken carbon]

it’s not worthless, it can work with purg builds, and it has the benefit of proccing off of any psyker’s soulblaze

but imo the 4% from any kill is just generally better

[rancid geyser]

it works with purge in auric

[broken carbon]

even on purg builds

[rancid geyser]

is can approve

[vast hare]

Well apparently you not only have to be the one that gets to kill, but it has to be the dot that kills

[broken carbon]

but its preference

[vast hare]

and nothing else

which even with purg stick is liek 50/50

[rancid geyser]

since there are a lot of enemies to burn you can stack it fast

[vast hare]

between dot or the raw hit

and even then its only a 10% chance

so basically only the purg stick can actually use the talent

[rancid geyser]

again i am not 100% certain on this but when i was in the psychanum it really seemed like it had to be the DoT but it could just be that the proc chance is low

[vast hare]

anything else the odds of an enemy dying to a tick of the dot is very close to 0

considering getting that dot to tick for anything higher than like maybe 40 is extraordinarily tough without ap urg stick

[rancid geyser]

just know that when ppl take the kill i dont get shit

was frustrating trying to learn

[vast hare]

Yeah I'm fine with it needing to be me getting the kill, cuz you should be killing

the issue is that it has to be the dot :/

[fast frost]

We talking about a fire build?

Was literally away to come in to discuss it since I’m remaking my old builds

Just checked yeah that is a weird perk

[rancid geyser]

TBH you probably can just keep shooting and get the stacks so it might not just be from killing with the DoT, just dont lose the kill to someone else, cause when i was leveling, anytime someone killed burning enemies i got 0 stacks

[jovial juniper]

[rancid geyser]

then i was just unlocky?

[fast frost]

Interesting that any psyker gets it

[rancid geyser]

cause shooting into a pack was almost just 4 stacks guaranteed when i was alone

is it only if a psyker gets the kill?

[fast frost]

I feel like regardless vampire is just better tho. Even on a fire build

[sacred crane]

THIS IS PSYKER CHAT

[jovial juniper]

Unless they changed the interaction with the tree rework

[proper osprey]

Zealot take over

[plucky flax]

Zealot smelly

[fast frost]

I’m trying to make some weird electric soulfire melee build and I’m losing my sanity trying
To decide what talents to sacrifice

[plucky flax]

They stole my ds and recon lasgun

[fast frost]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-stinky-cover-mouth-personabeys-gif-25501421

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/diddy-baby-oil-oil-him-up-xllcarolinellx-gif-12157753233357456797

[rancid geyser]

ayo!

[plucky flax]

Not the legend p daddy

[fast frost]

Potato about to bestow wisdom

[jovial juniper]

Recons are basically useless on Zelly

[plucky flax]

It's not as good as laspistol mk2 ye even with piety keystone

[fast frost]

Zealots don’t need and shouldn’t use guns

[strong gulch]

Yes. It's a reason why a lot of people choose the psychic vampire over in fire reborn on fire trauma. It's more consistent. In fire reborn has a higher potential to be able to refund your WC much faster tho.

[rancid geyser]

also is the enhanced description mod working again now?

[jovial juniper]

Dunno, that image is from a month ago

[plucky flax]

But it has more ammo and more accurate without ads

[proper osprey]

I’d only use in fire for purg

[rancid geyser]

i tried both and tbh, psychic vamp is nice I settled on reborn only because i can actually melt hordes if i charge up a bit

[jovial juniper]

[rancid geyser]

that and in some of my runs ppl be dying and then i gotta cry about being alone when im learning psyker

[fast frost]

I feel like vamp is just better I’m not sure if I’m just underestimating 6% but surely 4% on everything even what you don’t kill is better than a 10% in specific cases

[rancid geyser]

10% solo > 4% solo

[strong gulch]

Both are good. Best on purg and even better if you have more than 1 psyker applying SB. But yeah, both are fine.

Anyone can kill SB affected enemies for you to get In Fire Reborn procs. SB source and ownership doesn't matter.

[vast hare]

Ohk so is it confirmed then that for In Fire Reborn to work, it has to Soulblaze that kills the enemy?

[plucky flax]

Use in fire reborn with inferno formerly burga only

[vast hare]

IE you cannot get stacks from it if an enemy with soulblaze dies to anything but soulblaze?

[strong gulch]

No. It just has to have SB on it when it dies.

[vast hare]

Ohk, gotcha

[strong gulch]

Souldrinker works in a similar way. I say similar, because I haven't been able to confirm if SB ownership matters or not. Thus far, In Fire Reborn and Souldrinker appear to work off the same rules.

Another thing I don't know is the radius. How far away from the SB affected enemy be and you still get the benefit.

[vast hare]

😮 I actually RAN OUT of diamantine

o.O

[strong gulch]

woah

[rancid geyser]

stop the cap

[near wyvern]

Nope. Haven't fixed it yet since it works even with such a bad roll.

[near wyvern]

Yes

[strong gulch]

To be fair, the damage stat doesn't have the widest scaling on knife.

[vast hare]

Ohkay, now it is time to try out my more or less complete soulblaze trauma stick setup

Innate crit chance is 5%, yeah?

[rancid geyser]

7.5

[near wyvern]

In case someone didn't answer already it's blaze away, up to +40% strength (used to be called power) on continuous firing. It is mechanically possible to keep it permanently up with inferno staff (used to be purgatus staff)

[rancid geyser]

on psyker

7.5%

according to gameslantern

[vast hare]

ohk, so its

7.5% base + 5% Node + 5% Aura + 5% Perk + 20% Scrier's + 20% Warp Nexus = 62.5% crit chance

[stuck marsh]

i would like to inform everyone that i did it i completed a hi5stg with a gunker without dieing and without smyker or vet shout

thank you everyone that helped me yesterday and advice \o/

[near wyvern]

You can just do constant small charges to stay at max stacks (+40% strength) which is naughty AOE damage.

[rancid geyser]

yeah i tried 62% crit it was nice

then someone told me that blaze away was good

and it actually does more damage for me XD

[vast hare]

Oh yeah it is

its incrdible

Blaze away + warp flurry

[near wyvern]

40% multiplicative damage is not slightly

[vast hare]

for huge spammable

[rancid geyser]

its a very noticable amount

[vast hare]

You mean sustained fire, right?

[rancid geyser]

very

[vast hare]

I know what blaze away usually is

[rancid geyser]

blaze away

[vast hare]

but voidblast doesn't get blaze away

[rancid geyser]

oh think i m talking about a diff staff

ignore me

[vast hare]

Yeh I'm using the splodey stick

it splodes

and is a stick

and applies 4 stacks of fire on crit in a massive 10 meter radius

[strong gulch]

Blaze away has been a huge damage boost. For doing nothing different and low effort, it's so much more damage.

[rancid geyser]

^

[vast hare]

Ah purgatus

[rancid geyser]

i did almost 50% more damage than when i went crit chance on my staff

[vast hare]

thats the one that gets blaze away

Sustained fire on Trauma stick is really good too, for the record

promotes doing short "bursts" of splodes

then quelling

so you can sort of give up quelling talents since you'll be doing alot more of it in general

and then go all in on raw damage

add rending to it, just for good measure

basically delete crushers

[rancid geyser]

this is waht i have been using

finally realized it CCs a lot too

[vast hare]

20% brittle, that's pretty nasty

on top of 40% damage on the latter half of the mag

[rancid geyser]

i can do a little spin and make a safety circle, then just kite

[vast hare]

yeah that's sick output right there

Trauma stick is a safety circle just by looking down 🙂

I don't ever need to melee, just splode my feet and everything gets knocked down XD

even crushers and bulwarks cannot get through me

You know

of ALL the weapons to get stagger blessings

that do all sorts of buffs to staggered enemies

I'm shocked that trauma has none

[patent wing]

i just run 3 wounds and explode myself in case of danger

[vast hare]

Like why doesn't trauma get like hammerblow

or impact or something

[rancid geyser]

think crystalline will is worth?

[vast hare]

No

its training wheels

just dont explode

[rancid geyser]

if i have the wounds its a free get off me no?

until next heal station

XD

[vast hare]

Talent point is better spent elsewhere, I think

though I haven't actually thought aobut it in that way

[rancid geyser]

for me i havent taken it much but i only have 1 to spare

[vast hare]

intentionally explode for get off me, but does it actually explode?

[rancid geyser]

it or reality anchor

[vast hare]

or does it give you corruption with no other effect?

[rancid geyser]

i have anchor because it helps me keep my touhgness regen

it just gives you 1 wound

each time you get 100% peril and explode

no down

[vast hare]

So it DOES explode

[rancid geyser]

just the animation

[vast hare]

just doesn't down you

[rancid geyser]

yeah

[vast hare]

Hmm

thats an actual argument then

as an emergency getoffme

eat the wound to clear space 🤔

[serene stream]

Apparently building left side for surge staff has made the high peril cost for alt fire much more usable now.

[rancid geyser]

only issue is with this staff getting and sitting at 100% is literally only doable while im under gaze

lmao

[vast hare]

Yeah pretty much everything has uber high peril costs

if you don't want to spend half your time quelling, you gotta take left side xd

[serene stream]

the -40% peril cost reduction talent [new] makes so that I can cast it more than the voidblast staff

yeah...

i don't see left side needed for purge

[vast hare]

new leftclick build too uses it well

[rancid geyser]

thats the only node in all of the trees that i have seena draw back on

[vast hare]

that talent +scriers +DD

[near wyvern]

I haven't tested this yet but I doubt it does a lot of difference since Trauma should already deal full damage against carapace so any extra rending is rending % / 4 added damage

[vast hare]

and you can get massive amounts of weakspot damage bonus

for relatively little effort

[rancid geyser]

-30 toughness replenished

[vast hare]

cuz the passive buildup is so slow at that point

[serene stream]

the 30% damage bonus on primary after full cast secondary attack for 5 seconds isn't feasible with purge, since you're holding it down for the fire.

[vast hare]

Well yeah you're not leftclicking with the one staff that doesnt have a leftclick

you're leftclicking with surge staff cuz it gets a crit bonus as one of its main stats

[serene stream]

hmm.

[vast hare]

i'm tellin ya the damage on that build is nuts

500k+ on every mission

incredible

[quartz barn]

But thats normal?

[vast hare]

Not for left click!

Thats the thing

[strong gulch]

Yeah that -40 peril gen is way strong on ER. I'm finding that I need more peril generation. 60 warp resist on trauma is way too much with ER for me.

[vast hare]

you get to have good ass, normal results on just leftclicking the stick xd

its very mindless, relaxing even

[rancid geyser]

im at -60 under gaze, its actually funny

how long i can sit getting toughness regen from it

[vast hare]

-84% with gaze+warp charges

[near wyvern]

While not needed it allows you to never manually touch the quell button. It's actually broken AF since you can just stand there infinitely and if it's not a crusher, bulwark or a mutant it cannot enter and touch your team.

[serene stream]

Rager won't be stunned afaik.

[vast hare]

I mean with penetrating flames not even crushers or bulwarks can get in

they get mega glorped

[near wyvern]

LMB my friend

[serene stream]

Yeah, penetrating flame is my new beloved.

Yeah, LMB good for that.

[vast hare]

leftclick on purg stick is heavy suppression, works even on poxbursters

its great

[serene stream]

I'm a solid left click advocate.

[strong gulch]

It is more damage for sure. I will say tho that when I was doing LMB memes before the patch, it wasn't uncommon to get top damage even then. It's def stronger now tho.

[vast hare]

Have any of y'all used the Lawbringer DD build yet?

I have, its nuts

Kind of a bitch to set up

[near wyvern]

You can RMB poxbursters once you have BA stacked as well

[vast hare]

but once you have that 15 stacks of DD and a fully loaded scriers? Ohhh boy

special slug just wipes out an entire hallway

[stray pond]

I love me some DD

[vast hare]

If you want some more raw output, the agri shotty has a way easier time stacking DD

and with manstopper that cleave still lets you nuke a decent chunk

actually works better into armored stuff than lawbringer

Kantrael with Flechette/Scattershot is pretty good too

if only there was a way to get soulblaze reliably on a psyker gun

but only that elite kill talent really does that

[near wyvern]

I guess the only downside is having to explain to Veterans why you need the ammo pack more than them

[vast hare]

XD

yeah, shotguns are thin on ammo even with vet

so on psyker you're just drinking it

like a fish

[slate oasis]

what are the best blessings currently for the mk4 dueling sword?

[strong gulch]

Being able to stay in SG is really silly. Not the broken way that I've seen someone had where they just stay 100% and it never ends, but the I have so many things reducing my peril that I can just keep doing whatever kind of way.

Like here. Stuck in SG. https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx07yjnx5TxRJ-XfIMbDMU5_MK8_xN4y9f?si=OAtrJslMrV6bNPbI

[ornate hamlet]

Here's some wacky ahh shit for y'all to dwell upon

[stray pond]

This feels like you just turned a Psyker into a dollar store veteran but I vibe with it

[strong gulch]

Uncanny and the second is still being tested since there are new blessings available.

[upper sun]

why crit on soulblaze?

[ornate hamlet]

cuz dclaw

tfw no riposte dclaw

https://tenor.com/view/sam-lake-hair-samlakehair-alanwake2-alan-wake-2-alan-wake-gif-4084097430794654700

fatshark is withholding secrets

[rancid geyser]

warp unbound is still not working tho no?

[vast hare]

its inconsistent

[strong gulch]

Still bugged. Can be used with caution.

[rancid geyser]

lord have mercy on me, i have to grind with this

cause im a broke boy

14 mobility is wild

2 STAMINA BARS

i cant!

[eternal basalt]

You must

[strong gulch]

2 stam bars is regular

less everythign else tho lol

[rancid geyser]

i am a deadeye vet main with 16 stamina

seeing 2 stamina bars is legit painful

[strong gulch]

rest in peas

[frozen loom]

just spam staff xd

[stray pond]

I'm curious about preferences on it, but when y'all run the Illisi what do you generally run alongside Uncanny Strike for the blessings

[near wyvern]

There is also the shred agile combo that is worth of a test as a defensive option

[near wyvern]

+3 stam curio goes woosh

[strong gulch]

For sure! EE putting in work yet again.

And the other talents now lol

So many options

[near wyvern]

Uncanny strike + slaughterer for general purpose stuff, slaughterer + bloodthirsty for special spam

[stray pond]

I kinda figured Slaughterer would still be the way to go. I personally enjoy Shred still, and I'm about to give Executor a try.

[near wyvern]

Strength (power) is one of the few damage buffs that stack multiplicatively (they increase the bonuses you get from other buffs as well). Rending is an other one and armour perks are the third and final one.

But rending depends completely on the damage profile of the weapon and the amount you get. It never affects unarmoured and infested targets and for others if you are dealing 100% damage already the bonus you get is rending % / 4. Rending is additive with brittleness ans they cap at +100% (so if you started with 0.5 damage the highest you can get is 1.0 + 0.5/4 = 1.2 multiplier, but compared to original this is still 1.2/0.5 = 2.4 so 140% increase to the original damage)

[frozen loom]

can I just say I suck at using the trauma staff

[stray pond]

That makes sense, it'd be a bit odd if rending worked on targets that lacked armor anyways

[strong gulch]

@near wyvern Do you know if cleave damage is working properly? Last I heard it was bugged, but that was a long time ago.

[jovial juniper]

Why?

[frozen loom]

idk. ultimately, skill issue. I probably need practice, or whatnot.

[queen fog]

That’s fine sibling no psyker is perfect

[jovial juniper]

Well you need to pinpoint your problems with the trauma staff

[queen fog]

It’s one of the few staves where leading shots is almost required on some enemies

So don’t beat urself up too hard bout it

[strong gulch]

Yeah might be practice, but also ranged can be an issue and with mettle nerf, toughness regen too a significant hit.

Plus everyone I know is getting beat up more.

[jovial juniper]

Yeah beat your enemies with it

Staff bash gameplay

[queen fog]

Staff bash gameplay got buffed ngl with the smite modifier letting u get electricity on the 2nd swing

Since it counts as a heavy

[frozen loom]

Maybe I'll have an easier time if I swap warp nexus with warp flurry? Get gud at dodge-sliding,definitely

[jovial juniper]

Oh shit fr

[strong gulch]

If I ever I have an entra point and I pathed into smite, I might have to grab charged strikes for the staff bash memes

[queen fog]

Ya I got terrifying barrage and warp flurry on mine, flurry helps a bunch when regular charge time won’t cut it

The suppression is… not as helpful but it’s there

[opal raptor]

What's the most fun build since the patch? Played smite prior to returning and thinking about trying purgatus/bb

[strong gulch]

Dodge sliding to reposition while charging is a must a lot of the time.

[jovial juniper]

Fun build for me is perma gaze full crit electro staff

[strong gulch]

What kind of play are you looking for? Gunker and purg got buffed and LMB staff spam actually got nodes to support the play style. Warp Unbound (SG augment) lets you play with warp attacks at 100% peril (inconsistent and bugged tho).

[opal raptor]

Whatever you suggest that's more fun that just holding everything in place!

[jovial juniper]

Infinite smite

[strong gulch]

lol

True. We also got stronger peril resistance too.

[opal raptor]

I like to keep to the staff combat

Feels right

[zinc phoenix]

It takes a while to grok trauma, no shame

I think I went a couple months of playing it before I started to get how it worked and how to flick the aiming and dealing with stairs and melee and stuff

It’s a very good stick and honestly once you fully grok it it’s a lot of fun to use

[queen fog]

The day i found out how good of a vertical range it had was the day alot of gunners died

[frozen loom]

oh stairs are definitely a problem right now

[strong gulch]

If you want to go super spicy. YOu can so surge nexus on surge staff and LMB spam with SG and warp unbound. Don't use the charge RMB because it's bugged and you'll explode. Warp Unbound lasts for 10 seconds and begins when SG ends; but the transition does always register. SO sometimes you'll blow up when you shouldn't.

[frozen loom]

(also dear me, empowering weapons is actually expensive)

[queen fog]

With every empowerment a IV bag’s worth of plasteel gone

[strong gulch]

If you want a more hinged option, purg with blaze away and nexus is really strong. (don't purg with warp unbound because it's also bugged).

[opal raptor]

That looks like it'd be fun, i'll have a look, thanks!

[strong gulch]

If you're afraid about exploding a lot, crystalline will can help. Do be aware that it currently shortens the time between the you going over 100% peril animation and you exploding. Only really relevant if you use shriek.

[inland ridge]

do psykers still facetank everything or they nerfed it?

[near wyvern]

I haven't given any thought to cleave damage yet.

[radiant frigate]

i don't think psykers ever really facetank anything

[ornate hamlet]

How do you even do that

[radiant frigate]

not successfully anyway

[opal raptor]

Don't suppose t here's a link to it anywhere so I can see the build in full?

[radiant frigate]

stamina and maybe block efficiency

[near wyvern]

Face tank, no. Block with KD, a lot of shit.

[ornate hamlet]

KD enjoyers rise up

[radiant frigate]

important distinction, that

[inland ridge]

haven't played psyker in quite some time, but i remember it was combination of stamina the synergize with either talent or sword perk forgot

[ornate hamlet]

Why yes I would love to block a crusher overhead while reviving someone, thanks

[inland ridge]

i have to login into my psyker

[radiant frigate]

if i could block it

i would love to

[inland ridge]

though not sure if it's still a thing since i last played psyker

[radiant frigate]

KD was untouched

[strong gulch]

If you mean from a long time ago when psykers could permanently tank a DH, yes they are still nerfed. But with stamia curio and KD, psyker can still block A LOT. And now ER (empyric resolve), we got a buff.

[inland ridge]

gotcha, ty

[strong gulch]

Gotcha. Thanks.

[summer prairie]

how was that nerfed, I can permablock 4 DH np

[inland ridge]

yea it's this talent + stamina

[near wyvern]

Kinetic deflection, allows you to block with peril. Peril cost is scaled according to your max stamina (essentially 1 stamina is worth x4 for blocking with peril). Duelling sword has a default of 2 bars and they have 8 so either three +2 stamina or two +6 stamina.

Duelling swords also have better block efficiency which makes the block cost lower. Peril reduction in turn reduces the peril cost of blocking as well.

[zinc phoenix]

Stacking block efficiency, deflector and kinetic deflection with a +3 stam perk is a gateway to many powers some consider to be unnatural

[near wyvern]

I call it blessed by my beloved

[strong gulch]

When and how peril passively drains was changed. It was ridiculous before.

[summer prairie]

oh yeah that, but still possible

[queen fog]

You can make rager strikes feel like poxwalker strikes with enough block cost reduction on force sword and deflection, one of my lads showed me that last night

[near wyvern]

Initially blocking with peril didn't pause the auto quelling

[radiant frigate]

why yes i would love to permablock a gunner pack

[zinc phoenix]

I do miss that

[inland ridge]

damn they reset my psyker talents...

[radiant frigate]

i still want deflector to be built in

[west stream]

The real way to tank gunner packs is the critical into evasion perk

[inland ridge]

i would've taken pictures of my talents if i knew they would reset them

[west stream]

That still exist?

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[west stream]

Excellent

[queen fog]

They changed around a few of the nodes but I feel ya sibling

Having to remake talent trees can be annoying

[inland ridge]

especially when i forgot a lot of things about psyker lol

guess time to steal a build in this channel

[strong gulch]

This is my no keystone LMB build for surge staff and SG. Spam away. You can swap for the crit aura or drop wildfire for charged strikes because it's funny. This is surge + nexus on surge staff.

Be aware that Warp Unbound is bugged and the charged secondary will still cause you too explode at 100% peril even when Warp Unbound is supposed to prevent that. The protection when SG ends can be inconsistent, so right before an after SG ends, pause doing warp attacks to better ensure that you are under the protection of Warp Unbound. Warp Unbound technically lasts 11.5 seconds. There is a buff icon but it can be hard to pay attention to. Mods help if you use can or do use them.

If you're afraid about exploding a lot, crystalline will can help. It currently shortens the time between the you going over 100% peril animation and you exploding. Only really relevant if you use shriek.

[summer prairie]

forgot to take shriek but yeah https://streamable.com/9oimzx even easier now with -40% peril gen

[strong gulch]

Truly needed to be nerfed.

[strong gulch]

ER gonna get nerfed lol.

[inland ridge]

hell yea

maccabian my favorite stabby stab toy

[opal raptor]

That looks funky, I'm going to try it 😄 Thanks

[summer prairie]

it's too bad you don't get free KD blocking during SG linger

[near wyvern]

Definitely. I hope the toughness gen takes a huge nerf instead of the peril reduction though. I like the idea of glass cannon psyker.

[summer prairie]

I don't think ER is going to get nerfed, maybe if they lower both values

it's a win more node

[ornate hamlet]

Iron will, psyker version

Overtuned shit with zero drawbacks

[strong gulch]

Love seeing 0.

[radiant frigate]

do NOT cast with this

[near wyvern]

ER is broken beyond belief. You can permanently pump out purga flames and never need to manually quell. You don't even want to pick inner tranquility because that would make you loose DPS as it takes too much time before reaching max creeping flames.

[radiant frigate]

it will summon a daemon

[summer prairie]

that doesn't sound broken at all

you barely have to quell on purg anyway and it doesn't take long

[cobalt bone]

Er?

The peril resist Thing?

[summer prairie]

Empyric Resolve yes

[cobalt bone]

Im loving it

[summer prairie]

on purg you have infinite toughness gen so the downside isn't that big of a deal but the upside is also smaller

you definitely feel it on other staves

[near wyvern]

It is when you realise you can block a doorway or two permanently except from bulwarks, crushers and mutants

[cobalt bone]

Mostly luv it for loads and loads of smite x)

[strong gulch]

ER so strong 0 warp resist trauma is usable. lmao

[zinc phoenix]

Ok link this build, there are some strange interactions between the traits my baby smacked brain can’t handle right now 😂

[ornate hamlet]

The warp unbound mod error is :3ing at me

[cobalt bone]

What other guns are worth trying with gunpsyker

[hoary schooner]

With the new update, what's the dump stat for force staves?

[ornate hamlet]

someone send a responsible adult please

[cobalt bone]

Im done with Revolver rn

[queen fog]

Anything automatic is pretty fun to my knowing

[hoary schooner]

Warp Resistance?

[willow escarp]

how is it with trauma? which can block those as well (well not muties)

[zinc phoenix]

Fire laspistol

Hear me out: it’s funny

[cobalt bone]

The faster firing one or the slower one

[queen fog]

Both are good

[near wyvern]

Check timestamps for navigating around

https://youtu.be/2eglQS0WZbM?si=X9ZA4RJXXiGnZ8QH

[near wyvern]

I haven't properly tested it with that yet but will at some point. A lot of things to test for Ateneum and hunting season is at its prime.

[near wyvern]

Faster firing is better for infernus

[strong gulch]

What the hey. Youtube is rude af. It unsubbed me from your channel.

[zinc phoenix]

Interesting picks

[near wyvern]

YouTube deemed the content is not good for you. Too many technical details it will rot your brain. Showing more than a few options is illegal and makes you scared. Am I rite ?

[zinc phoenix]

Durability sucks and gunner mob is a death sentence if you aren’t very careful but my god the trauma spam is amazing

I did something similar with stacking as much of the top of the tree as I could but with more crit focus

[strong gulch]

I'm scared and confused all of the time. Try again youtube.

[willow escarp]

yeah, trauma has always been #1 imo but was wondering how crazy it is with the new perk, as peril was always its biggest consideration

[near wyvern]

I tried going to the right side for the extra crit and toughness through soul drinker but it's just too expensive and purga works fine without it

I am currently cooking a fire trauma build with soul drinker though

[zinc phoenix]

Well, good news, you have absurd just absurd numbers of casts. And if you go for the skill recharge on kill thing you can spam shout for more fire

I’m tempted to take the “toughness on warp charge gain” because it’s so easy to get warp charges

And so hard to get toughness

Legit having too little peril becomes a problem 😂

[strong gulch]

Yeah mettle nerf made fire trauma more fragile. Purg still good. lol

It hurts my feelings how out of the way souldrinker is.

[ornate hamlet]

They nerfed mettle?

[strong gulch]

Yes. It's per attack vs per hit.

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/eww-dude-gif-25103066

This is like the most disgusting nerf they could've done to melee psyker

[patent mango]

i havent noticed mettle nerf yet tbh

[strong gulch]

So trauma can't fill toughness back up on a huge blast anymore, but purg is basically unaffected.

[near wyvern]

Wasn't this a couple patches ago?

[ornate hamlet]

I did notice my toughness generation was kind of absolute shit and I was thinking maybe I just got rusty

[strong gulch]

This patch.

[ornate hamlet]

Wonder if they did it to fit in that stupid 10% attack speed node that we must absolutely have for some reason

[patent mango]

attack speed

[strong gulch]

Not sure.

All I know is that my trauma build is toughness hungry. I have souldrinker on it, but I also have ER. I always have quietude.

[jovial juniper]

The Illisi appreciates it

[ornate hamlet]

It's weird

They gave us more nodes, some pretty cool

But at the same time reduced the efficiency of the toughness regen nodes we picked a lot of

[quartz barn]

Because toughness regen is the best stat

[ornate hamlet]

Now I'm not encouraged to use assail to regen toughness properly on hordes, I have to use it

[patent mango]

you do?

[quartz barn]

Simply never get hit so you dont need to use a blitz

[strong gulch]

13 or 14 more nodes with no point increases and one of the stronger toughness regen nodes is out of the way for a lot of staff builds

[patent mango]

i dont even use a blitz on my melee psyker

[vast hare]

I assume you use voidblast because it has that soulblaze on crit blessing?

[near wyvern]

In that case one point in smite so you can push poxbursters safely with LMB without your team blowing them up your face

[queen trout]

But hey, at least we can swap weapons faster

[patent mango]

lmao do people actually do that

[vast hare]

Yep

its very handy to have

[ornate hamlet]

You depend on crit chance and toughness on kill otherwise

And now that mettle is nerfed to the ground, it's kind of a shit thing to have compared to everyone else having easy to use talents

[patent mango]

i mostly used mettle for movement speed anyways

so i didnt really notice the toughness nerf

[crisp yacht]

I've tried no keystone purge and no keystone gunker. They both worked decently well. Need moar points.

[topaz cloud]

Does anyone have a link to a decent crit voidstrike build?

[ornate hamlet]

Which reminds me

They removed crit CDR per cleave on zealot and adjusted the talent to match all weapons

Why didn't they do it for mettle?

[near wyvern]

Cause that would make sense

[long summit]

If I run the -40% peril generation, -30% toughness replenished node, is it better to run %MaxHP curios since Toughness is less reliable?

[near wyvern]

G sus with these kids nowadays. Making valid suggestions. Back in my day we used to run around like headless chickens.

[near wyvern]

Max HP with toughness regen on perks

[patent wing]

this perk feels like -70% toughness tbh

[near wyvern]

Running toughness curios relies on you getting it topped up as fast as you can.

[long summit]

Ok, that's what I was thinking, thanks. Asking to make sure my thought process is correct.

[plucky flax]

Is this stamina curios and block efficiency meme?

[summer prairie]

yes

[red wind]

is there any point running anything other than warp siphon for like ~90% of builds? empowered seems kinda useless in higher levels lol

ive seen some gunker builds w/ disrupt destiny but other than penances and whatnot i don't really see the use

[plucky flax]

I should make that meme to help people do the penance.

[ornate hamlet]

On that note

Holy shit, are heavy swords a fucking awful match for psyker

[jovial juniper]

More elites more EP

[ornate hamlet]

Mettle nerf, low finesse, zero crit support

[jovial juniper]

More numbers more EP

[red wind]

true but i feel like the actual benefits of EP aren't that good

in my experiences at least

honestly nowadays i dont even find myself using the blitz outside penances

still not done with the damn assail penance. lol

[jovial juniper]

And DD is for gunker yeah

Their melee likes finesse

[ornate hamlet]

In the meantime, the funny build I linked above (way above apparently) is working pretty well

Probably thanks to souldrinker, PC and wildfire

[slender coyote]

can you try this with deflector 4 on force swords vs like 4 reapers

[summer prairie]

easily

maybe 30 reapers

[slender coyote]

ohhell yes

[plucky flax]

Damn just genuinely played with the worst set of players ever.

[red wind]

welcome to matchmaking

[plucky flax]

2 of them were lvls 241

[queen trout]

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they were lagging

[red wind]

lvl 100+ players either carry the team or die immediately from my experience

idk why but some players just cannot hold their own for more than 30 seconds

[summer prairie]

ok maybe not 30

[slender coyote]

35 sec

[red wind]

nah ive seen people go down as soon as they split from the team lol

mostly vets

that are allergic to melee

[slender coyote]

to be fair that's most when going out of coherency

[plucky flax]

Man ragequitted right after

[slender coyote]

unless you built your build around going out of coherency

you shouldn't be doing that

[plucky flax]

Oh my bad he was only lvl 201.

[slender coyote]

lmao

[red wind]

yeah, but people do it anyway don't they lol

[placid crypt]

Ah, he's a novice then. 40 more levels will get him back in gear

[red wind]

the block button does not exist keep swinging m1

[strong gulch]

Surge with surge and nexus for LMB spam.

[strong gulch]

MORE POINTS. Like cookie monster but with points.

[ornate hamlet]

ALSO

Thoughts on warp splitting?

I'm a bit mixed on it because I'm on low peril most of the time thanks to crack of bone

[slender coyote]

lmao

found an ogryn stuck on mourningstar

genuinely stuck between the guard and the column

[ornate hamlet]

how

literally just move, it's a guard

maybe he's doing ogryn rp

game told him he can't move and he's like "oh ok"

[slender coyote]

he genuinely was

[ornate hamlet]

break free, big man

[slender coyote]

he could move but like he was stuck

[ornate hamlet]

the game can't tell you what to do

[slender coyote]

moving animation but no movement

[red wind]

peak darktide experience

[ornate hamlet]

I also need to make an agri shotty for this new psyker build

The double-barrel is fucking insane ofc

[strong gulch]

I would be so mad at hadron right now, but I am ok. Thanks crafting update.

[summer prairie]

do you actually want 17 wr on that

[strong gulch]

I'm gonna try it. I have a 42 and I want lower.

I will probably bump it up a bit because also quell speed.

Rolled forever trying to get a base like this.

ER strong

[late sapphire]

How do i color stims

What mod if any are you using for that?

[strong gulch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/265

[late sapphire]

Ty

[strong gulch]

Another nice one if yo don't have it.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/93

[plucky flax]

Yes the number is cool.

smol clutch with assail + voidstrike

[mighty cipher]

Why are zealots like this

[slender coyote]

what

[mighty cipher]

You know DAMN WELL what happens next

[slender coyote]

am i stupid or what is happening in that video

[mighty cipher]

In the very edge of your right ear you can hear a thammer charge up

[slender coyote]

oh lol

[mighty cipher]

Oh, and the Daemon Host from the same direction

[plucky flax]

[slender coyote]

that explains it I don't have my right ear rn

i lost it

the earbud

[mighty cipher]

He fought three of the fuckin things and I assume more.

[worthy ember]

No way my vet is called Jane-Darktide too

[broken carbon]

because it’s fun

[lethal lagoon]

Cause I'd rather kill the deamonhost now, then let some dummy pull it and then chase them around like a cartoon character

[mighty cipher]

Vaild Argument

[lethal lagoon]

If the DH is in a spot where you have to basically sneak by it perfectly, it needs a thunder paddling.

[strong gulch]

17 warp resist trauma with ER is completely usable

[summer prairie]

sure but why would you use it

I think purg is the only staff that might benefit from that

[strong gulch]

Because at 60 warp resit and ER, the peril resist is too for me. So I tried it at 48, then 42, then I wanted to push it to 17 and it's still comfy.

Plus I don't want there to be and egregious disparity between my peril resist WC fire trauma and my assail DD fire trauma builds.

[jovial juniper]

Hell yeah kill that DH

One just not denies the hammer its purpose

[sturdy tendon]

If DH wasn't meant to be killed why did they give us Thunderhammers?

[sturdy tendon]

Still dunno if I rather have a Revolver or Flamer with the Thunderhammer though

[strong gulch]

This will work.

[near wyvern]

Sadly I doubt the blast radius is worth it for the blazing spirit

[strong gulch]

but fire trauma

[near wyvern]

Ahh shit

VoidBLAST

[strong gulch]

RIGHT????

[near wyvern]

F me with the names obese megalodon

[strong gulch]

Truly

[fringe garden]

We're gonna still be calling it Trauma staff in 5 years and new players are going to be very confused

[summer prairie]

this is what Name It is for

[near wyvern]

Which is why I will list the entry in Atheneum as voidblast a.k.a Trauma

[strong gulch]

I rolled multiple voidstrikes trying build a trauma staff. NAMES WHY

[fringe garden]

That's probably a good idea

[restive ice]

they really saw the people who never accepted brain rupture and decided to rename the staves

[strong gulch]

Yeah. It might be time.

[lusty brook]

Trauma staff good

[burnt gazelle]

every newbie starting today and seeing all the talk about how the ciag is the best iag-

[mild bear]

Awright, if I wanted to make a funny melee psyker build, what skills would be key to build for

[weary crane]

max force sword anyone

does dodging against ranged attacks makes you immune to stuns?

EE seems like it does it

[fickle flint]

Whats the best way to spam Deimos Heavy attacks

[summer prairie]

L1 H2 block

though it's not that big a deal to just do L1 H2 L2 H2

[desert yoke]

for a crit/scriers build, should I take the force sword, or the duelling sword?

[summer prairie]

or whatever the second light you get is

[plucky flax]

Take whatever you want boo.

[mossy oyster]

a mk6 knife

the based option

[lusty brook]

Dueling sword makes you seem more civilized

[radiant frigate]

counterpoint: magic sword

but unironically the dueling sword might be morw magical

with how quickly it dispatches elites and armor in particular

[hollow jolt]

Force Dueling Sword when?

[small whale]

anyone have the black version of this hood?

[strong gulch]

yes

[small whale]

could you send a screenshot of the hood and armor?

[radiant frigate]

does deimos qualify

[hollow jolt]

Maccabian =\= Deimos >.>

[strong gulch]

idk which armor it came with, but I can get a pic of the hood

[radiant frigate]

also #zealot-class message

[small whale]

I think its a black one with like a metal plate on the chets

[gleaming orchid]

i was just pinged