psyker-class

[compact thorn]

Ogryn gamer here so not really big main with psyker
Is this node worth taking for trauma staff build ?

[plucky flax]

I can do 1 more try then I am going back to watching my thing.

[summer prairie]

Are you using true peril? I mean how many full tics (250ms without the talent) to get one cast off? Not sure what partial tics mean

[orchid shadow]

30 seconds is way too long for someone to be out of the fight. The 2nd interrogation is the worst as you need someone who can cover the stairs and the skylight edges for gunners at the same time

[summer prairie]

Higher quell also gives you easier timing even when the required tics are the same

[upper sun]

twins?

[plucky flax]

Rolling steel.

[split lance]

Yes

[upper sun]

ew

[plucky flax]

But now it's only HI not HISTG

So if we win it doesn't count.

[upper sun]

"if"

nah this i gotta see

got room for one more?

[plucky flax]

I played really well last round.

Like almost 0 fault.

[compact thorn]

K
Thanks

[upper sun]

u unironically need someone with a chain weapon to nuke the boss asap

[plucky flax]

Nah I am playing ds4 meme on zealot.

Just poke it.

[upper sun]

also a nuke

[split lance]

With purg. Are you supposed to send out half charges a lot like on surge

[patent wing]

u left too?

nvm

[analog agate]

2 tics for 80 quell. 3 tics for 60 quell

[summer prairie]

Right

[analog agate]

Both of them translate to overall the same “real” time. I guess we are talking about the minutiae though

General advice would be warp resistance is still dump stat I think

[frozen hearth]

Is it just me or is Disrupt Destiny bugged and stacks go away after a second

[restive ice]

ui bug from a few months ago

[frozen hearth]

oh okay i haven't played for a while, but UI doesn't reflect current stacks?

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

It's a very annoying UI bug

You can still see the small speed buff you get from killing a marked target

[frozen hearth]

guess i'd just be playing on faith

[jovial juniper]

Vibes>>>>>

[frozen hearth]

also i forgot should i be going for the columnus infantry autogun?

[jovial juniper]

They changed the name to Vraks 5

[upper sun]

ye

[upper sun]

what

[hollow jolt]

Dumdum + Deathspitter is a reliable combo on Vraks 5

[jovial juniper]

The Columnus 5 is Vraks 5 now

[restive ice]

renames columnus 5 to vraks 5
renames graia iag to columnus iag

[jovial juniper]

Rip ciag

[plucky flax]

[jovial juniper]

Welcome Viagra

[plucky flax]

I am still waiting recon las on zealot.

[frozen hearth]

to this day i still don't know what blitz to put onto my gun psyker

like i end up not using smite or assail altogether

[analog agate]

Assail should be used woven into combat if you can. Should be free dmg since they stick around some after throwing

Did more testing. Just use warp res as dump stat

[idle bay]

Imagine Psyker's staffs on Ogryn but he uses them just as struudy punching stick.

As painful as golfclub

[plucky flax]

Yes.

Might break the stick tho.

[idle bay]

To add some design love to such weapon - slightly bent Psyker's staff as Ogryn's weapon. That occasionally does some residual psyhic visual effects on strikes, and it gets progressively more bent after each strike And special action - he bends it back to straighten it.

[desert mortar]

I've got either 61s or 62s of both so should be good.

[tulip vessel]

hi what are the best blesssings for dualing sword 4

[cosmic sigil]

Lacerate flesh tearer

There's a pinned guide about that.

#psyker-class message

[tulip vessel]

thanks

[sacred crane]

is blaze away, penetrating flame or showstopper any better than the typical nexus + flurry combo?

(for purge staff)

or should i just go flurry and nexus

[jovial juniper]

BA Nexus

[sacred crane]

is it better than flurry?

[radiant frigate]

dclaw parry spamming a boss to death is honestly quite funny

[latent mauve]

Look at my build

[radiant frigate]

terrified

[plucky flax]

It's so based.

[latent mauve]

Thinking crusher

[cosmic sigil]

Cannot go wrong with that build

[steep estuary]

Huh. Something about Deflector IV and a LOT of block efficiency made me effectively invulnerable to a pile of gunners on the bridge of many martyrs.

[idle bay]

In the ancient time i made such build.

But then they made is so you can't passively quell while getting peril from block

Still can do some cool bullet blocking things, just don;t forget a lot of Stamina along with Block efficiecny

Stamina goes into denominator of Peril formula for Kinetic Deflector

[night ferry]

I see people praising the Blessing, Surge, on the Electro staff. While some say there is a bug with Surge.
Is that the better pairing with Nexus now?

[steep estuary]

That's the weird thing, I should have taken damage. I went up to critical peril, stamina drained, but I kept blocking and taking the hits. Probably a coherency thing or passive stamina regen was juuust enough to keep me safe?

[jovial juniper]

No
Nexus Flurry still the best
But flurry is bugged

The thing is Surge blessing only works on LMB

[analog agate]

Are they? I bet it can be fun using it with the primary fire talent nodes and stuff, especially because you can quell cancel lmb well on electro staff. BUT surge doesn’t work on rmb for electro staff. And atm flurry doesn’t work on it. Hence, why the main build, atm, is nexus and surge

[night ferry]

Flurry is bugged? I wasn't aware of that. Thank you

[late sapphire]

Why would you ever run lmb surge surge

Voidstrike exists

you can lmb surge voidstrike and enjoy the rmb buff

[jovial juniper]

Crit modifiers

Surge staff goes brrrr with crit modifiers

[night ferry]

Can't remember where I read the Surge thing. Shame it doesn't work for the charged attack. But word. Electro fun time ahead

[late sapphire]

Yeah true it does have the crit bonus stat

[jovial juniper]

Surge blessing is like what? 7.5% crit chance
Innate 7.5%
4 stacks of Nexus is 20%
10% from aura + sub node
20% from Scrier's
5% from perk

That's like 70% crit chance

Under ideal conditions of course

[placid crypt]

Primary strike surge staff goes hard

[jovial juniper]

Oh wait surge blessing is 5%

[timid grove]

hello magicians

if i was to be an assail enjoyer, what ranged weapon should i run to compliment it's weaknesses? e.g. is assail a horde-clear ability, or single-target killer?

[jovial juniper]

Assail struggles with heavy armor

[frozen hearth]

so surge just doesn't do anyhthing for electro staff rmb

?

[timid grove]

soo rending revolver?

[jovial juniper]

Yes

[timid grove]

ty

[lethal lagoon]

Was gonna say my recommendations and then I remember the names got changed

[timid grove]

it'd be nice if there are competitive options for armor-killing ranged psyker weapons but i guess i'll find out

[jovial juniper]

Well I think Vraks 5

[lethal lagoon]

You typically use your dueling sword or dagger to kill armor

On that build

[timid grove]

soo what is the ranged weapon for

[lethal lagoon]

Assail and the Ranged weapon fit roughly the same role

Kill shit fast

[timid grove]

boss killer weapon then?

[lethal lagoon]

That too

But melee can work for that too

Esp if you are competing for ammo

[placid crypt]

Assail helps with proccing warp damage if you are using a non-staff

[idle bay]

So what is our boss damage now ? Deimos pokes?

[late sapphire]

Do you know what this means?

[analog agate]

Viag/dsiv/mk2 pistol with infernus

[late sapphire]

ds4 pokes do a lot too if you can land the headshots

[timid grove]

[late sapphire]

voidstrike

[mossy oyster]

a double barrel or a revolver

[timid grove]

i mean that one guy said infernus guns are good for boss

[late sapphire]

He is right

mk2 pistol takes care of bosses and reapers well, ds4 for melee armor killing, assail for anything in the middle

voidstrike is balling though

[analog agate]

It is a good feeling stunning a bon/ogryn with the void ball

[timid grove]

idk what most staves are like in this game ive only used the knockdown one (trauma?) and flamethrower

so idk what a voidstrike is

[analog agate]

It is one of the other staves

[timid grove]

[idle bay]

It's like Plasmagun but vegan option

[timid grove]

i didn't really use plasma gun either ... is it like bolt staff from vt2?

[vestal fulcrum]

There isn't really a weapon from VT2 Plasma can really be compared to

[idle bay]

i wonder if if it's still possible to fast-fire charge attack on voidstaff...

[vestal fulcrum]

... maybe a grudgeraker or blunderbuss if you really think about it hard enough

[lethal lagoon]

That fatshark is going for a world record in refusing to fix a tooltip description?

[vestal fulcrum]

What's wrong with the tooltip description, though?

oh

hang on

melee

[lethal lagoon]

[idle bay]

Yup it's still possible to make yourself and your team deaf with a voidstrike staff. They never fixed quell canceling for voidstrike

[vestal fulcrum]

mfw

[analog agate]

You can quell cancel all the staves? What do you mean fixed?

[lethal lagoon]

Fatshark: You're Hired.

[vestal fulcrum]

they'd have to likely make a separate case for Critical Bonus for ranged weapons, and that's just too much work /s

[late sapphire]

The real issue is that i know fatshark well enough to not be completely sure it's mistaken

Maybe the crit bonus does only apply to melee

[lethal lagoon]

It absolutely applies to ranged lmao

[cosmic sigil]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/363

[lethal lagoon]

a 20% crit chance diference is fairly easy to test

[cosmic sigil]

if only i had that two days ago

[idle bay]

There was a hotfix long time ago that stated to disable quell canceling shenanigans for staffs. Apperently they never checked if they actually did it 🙂

[late sapphire]

You never know

Maybe they'll fix that instead of the tooltip

[analog agate]

Interesting. I can’t recall that, haha

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, you mean they meant to mean that?

Yeah, totally possible

[idle bay]

Year ago or so

[plucky flax]

Surge (electro) staff spam.

[lethal lagoon]

Electro needs to be a banned word

[vestal fulcrum]

Should I stay at 25% WR

[lethal lagoon]

Yes

[plucky flax]

Damn 25% is low.

[cosmic sigil]

where does that come from?

[plucky flax]

Your peril will go brrrrr.

[lethal lagoon]

It's super easy getting a perfect weapon now

It makes more sense to keep unique ones

and just roll another perfect

[late sapphire]

surge staff critical bonus

[cosmic sigil]

Oo

[late sapphire]

bricked

59% warp res

scrap it

[vestal fulcrum]

teetering on the brick, facing the abyss

[cosmic sigil]

keep the ugly child yeah

[radiant frigate]

prenerf moonbow

same color too

[vestal fulcrum]

Moonbow prenerf was just a tag gun - it didn't really have obscene cleave like the Plasma does (but then cleave is/was valued a bit differently in Vermintide compared to mass density in DT)

[late sapphire]

jav if it had 10x the cleave

[vestal fulcrum]

Jav might have been the closest to a Plasma gun probably

[late sapphire]

i miss my jav

[vestal fulcrum]

Not in its current iteration, but back in the day it was ridiculously good

[late sapphire]

it's still really good

[vestal fulcrum]

Oh yeah, just not obscenely good that it overshadows every regular bow choice, besides maybe Hagbane shortbow

[radiant frigate]

really good but not infuriating for the rest of your team

because oh look here's the conga line of rats

fwoosh

oh look they just got shishkebab'd

[vestal fulcrum]

that's my only other Inferno staff that has low starting Warp resist

[late sapphire]

My favourite thing about jav is watching the saltz slowly run out of thp and die as the keri snipes every single rat

[near gale]

Question: What do I want for the 2nd perk on this? I'm thinking 25% carapace or 10% elite, personally, over the 25% maniac

[radiant frigate]

empyric resolve feels.. very not goof

good*

maybe wrong setup

but i feel like that talent is actively detrimental

[vestal fulcrum]

Depends on how comfortable you are with staving

I hate staving, so I skip Empyric entirely

I'm an Assail warrior

[lethal lagoon]

ER shifts you to worrying less about peril worrying more about toughness

[near gale]

Empyric sounds decent on paper, but, you need to be ready to compensate for the 30% less toughness or it will screw you in the long run

[vestal fulcrum]

I've mentioned this in Zealot chat already, but Elites is probably correct

[upper sun]

carapace is mid

[lethal lagoon]

Roll something better, it's super easy now

[upper sun]

take elite or maniac

also what atlas said

[lethal lagoon]

You want 60 warp resist, rest 80

[vestal fulcrum]

Carapace is fairly ass, though - it only hits Crushers

[upper sun]

surge has a breakpoint for trapper one tap at 80 damage

[lethal lagoon]

It costs probably on avg 100k gold to get a "perfect" weapon

But you might get in like 1-2 rolls

[split lance]

whats ds supposed to look like

[lethal lagoon]

cleave damage or mobility 60

[split lance]

ty

[upper sun]

wow actual advise?

[vestal fulcrum]

I run this, for instance

[upper sun]

atlas u ok?

[lethal lagoon]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN

I"M SUPER HELPFUL

[upper sun]

[lethal lagoon]

I"M LITERALLY PINNED BEING HELPFUL

[split lance]

atlas and i are lovers

[upper sun]

y-yes

whatever you say

[lethal lagoon]

LOOK AT THE PINS

[upper sun]

not anymore

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

tree got updated

i asked hank to take it down

[analog agate]

Can you imagine saying this a little while ago, haha

[lethal lagoon]

Wait did you actually?

[upper sun]

yes

it was outdated

[lethal lagoon]

Oh fuck, we are real friends now

🤝

[near gale]

I will when I have the capital by which to do that. I was busy leveling my duelling sword mastery, so I'm poor once again x.x

[lethal lagoon]

I have no idea what you are saying

But gotcha, buddy

[upper sun]

hes broke

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

no docketss for better rolls

[nocturne dust]

aren't we all

[lethal lagoon]

From leveling his dueling sword mastery

I don't follo

[tame venture]

getting back into the game, and i have to redo all the talent trees. i don't fully 100% get all the new changes but how do these look for builds?

[near gale]

I used most of the 150k dockets from the event reward to buy duelling swords, upgrade them to green, and then sacrifice them for mastery to the duelling sword

[vestal fulcrum]

I earned 21M dockets by managing the inventory of all my characters

[lethal lagoon]

That seems wildly ineffecint

[nocturne dust]

Wasn't talking about the game 😭

[quartz barn]

Buy sword, maybe level, funnel

[lethal lagoon]

Just like my english

[upper sun]

struggle meals

[lethal lagoon]

Its like what 4-5 t5s to get max?

[vestal fulcrum]

Let a man dream

[lethal lagoon]

You don't even get bonus exp for aurics

So you can even run normals

[near gale]

Welcome to my world... wildly inefficient... while also getting overly hyper focused on something and then spending too much time/resources/etc on that lol

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

wanna run some?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, lemme feed me dog

[nocturne dust]

you do for the modifiers tho, right?

[lethal lagoon]

not for mastery

[quartz barn]

Most xp comes from sacrificing levelled weapons of the same type

Gives 6× xp

[nocturne dust]

o

[split lance]

gimme 10min pls

gotta do sum quick

[upper sun]

hes doing tren

[split lance]

not yet

[vestal fulcrum]

What weapons are each of these using?

[nocturne dust]

2.5% toughness on peril is bad, get either soulstealer or the on quell toughness

also the charged strike node is useless

[lethal lagoon]

Oh there's a type advantage?

Fuck

[nocturne dust]

does like 60 dmg and nothing else

[tame venture]

i have them kiinda generalist, with 3rd being a gunker build.(placeholder weaps on it atm)

[tame venture]

here i thought it was a less worthless kinetic flayer tbh

[nocturne dust]

wish it were so

it ain't so

[tame venture]

i do have other decent weapons these are mostly just what i stuck on em

[lethal lagoon]

Aye just invite me when you are on

[nocturne dust]

maybe if there was a melee weapon that spat out heavies like the purgatus spits out fire

[analog agate]

Just like to say KF is slightly less useless now. It does target elites/specials. Annoyingly, atm, it will still hit a regular guy if there isn’t an elite/special around. Which can waste the shot.

[nocturne dust]

It still targets poxbursters?

[analog agate]

No

[tame venture]

i just appreciate a passive effect on blitzes that work even if you aren't directly using them

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

sadly none of those are worth it currently

unless you want to meme

[analog agate]

I did 2 pox maels yesterday and KF never screwed me by hitting one.

[nocturne dust]

hhhhhmmmm, I guess I need to test it in the psykh

[analog agate]

I could have gotten lucky 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne dust]

also crudknuckles I need more loadout slots

It's time to bully poxbursters

https://tenor.com/view/pool-prank-children-plash-push-gif-17659997

[split lance]

vc?

[analog agate]

I will say after using KF since before patch 12 (or 13?) it is much more useful now

[nocturne dust]

still on a super long cooldown

[radiant frigate]

hmm today i will clear out all the things i do not need

[nocturne dust]

weapons about to get snapped

[latent mauve]

You aren’t in there

[lethal lagoon]

DONT LOOK AT THE PINS

[split lance]

this is good right

[lethal lagoon]

ye

[compact thorn]

Good melees for staff builds ?(clueless Ogryn gamer asking)

[nocturne dust]

si

[split lance]

illissy

[nocturne dust]

Depends on staff, generally either dueling sword or illisi

[split lance]

inv whenever

[lethal lagoon]

No u

[upper sun]

Illisi deimos ds4

[nocturne dust]

illisi for horde clear, dueling sword for single targets

[upper sun]

ye

[split lance]

WHATS UR CODE

are you come on her face

[vestal fulcrum]

Potential improvements suggestions, in order

• B1 has 2 spare skill points, you can grab Kinetic Deflection with them or any other utility you may like. I've removed redundant small talent choice right after the aura, moved Aura to Seer's Presence (you technically want to spam Venting Shriek as often as possible, so it made sense to me to switch to it). I've removed the point from Charged Strike as its performance is currently underwhelming,
• B2 has mostly had one point from By Crack of Bone moved to Soulstealer - BCoB is fairly low value on a shield-centric build IMO and Soulstealer is one of the better toughness-generating skills in Psyker's skilltree. I've also changed the aura as Assail really wants that extra Crit chance (and Voidblast also if you're running Blazing Spirit on it),
• B3 I've revamped completely into Assail-based - Smite has no place on Gunker builds unless you're up for some goofiness, and Scrier's Gaze can greatly empower Assail for a short period of time (and some time after via Warp Unbound upgrade). Removed Scrier's TDR upgrade (which is kind of redundant since you have One with the Warp) and added Soulstealer - you want some consistent Toughness replenish for Assail. This build doesn't have Kinetic Deflection, so you might want to supplement that with a Stamina curio (suffering is also an option, though). Removed Purloin Providence DD keystone upgrade as it's garbage.

[near gale]

Does this only apply to when your scrier's gaze is active, and not for when you have precognition stacks active?

because I'm triggering an explosion with precognition stacks up

[lethal lagoon]

We are friends

[near gale]

in the meat grinder

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

SG ends when it goes to 100%, so you get warp unbound after that

[near gale]

So it doesn't apply for this?

[lethal lagoon]

Oh that's weird

[nocturne dust]

it actually should, what are you using? some weps are bugged and don't work with warp unbound

like Surge

rmb specifically

[lethal lagoon]

Hey it says the friend request was sent oyu never naswered madge

[near gale]

surge rmb

[nocturne dust]

lol

[near gale]

Does that still trigger it?

[split lance]

wdym were friends

idk what ur talking about

[nocturne dust]

surge rmb doesn't trigger warp unbound, is bug

[near gale]

Ah

[upper sun]

its like watching a blind person trying to communicate with a deaf person

[near gale]

Do the other 3 staves work with it?

[nocturne dust]

uh

voidstrike does

[analog agate]

Void and blast do

[nocturne dust]

I heard purgatus doesn't

[near gale]

The purgatus doesn't?

[analog agate]

No

[lethal lagoon]

[near gale]

Good to know that the 2 main staves I was thinking about using don't work with warp unbound lol

Do all 3 blitz work with warp unbound?

[late sapphire]

Voidstrike works with warp unbound 99% of the time

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I think purgatus doesn't really need warp unbound

[late sapphire]

I have exploded with it up thrice so far

Out of maybe 30 mael matches

[near gale]

I mean aside from when I was just testing this, I usually am really good at avoiding exploding... then again, I used to be a battle wizard main in vt2...

[nocturne dust]

I mean I've never relied on warp unbound for not dying, I just stack peril gen red and quell before I die, lol

[buoyant dust]

Fellow gunkers... whats the 2nd best blessing for columnus V outside of dumdum... deathspitter or fire frenzy?

[late sapphire]

Not for not dying!

[nocturne dust]

Staying at 100% for 10 seconds irks me

[late sapphire]

I go to 100% peril on purpose to get my giga balls

Works well enough until it doesn't

[nocturne dust]

I mean, yeah, you better be watching that buff or counting those seconds

[late sapphire]

I am

The times i exploded the buff was still running and visible after being downed

it's not me misjudging the time

[nocturne dust]

not saying it was, I believe you

I don't use warp unbound enough to notice, lol

[near gale]

Wow it feels extremely weird being able to use my staff at 100% peril... lol

[nocturne dust]

yeh feels wrong

[near gale]

Honestly despite warp unbound being so versatile... I feel like going venting shriek would still suit me better :/

[nocturne dust]

You do you. I like SG on voidstrike because of the surge blessing

[near gale]

Surge is great, now that I've gotten to see how it works better(both this time testing the staff and the last time I tested it)... but the voidstrike... idk I just don't like the voidstrike. The main reason that I can think of is that it feels like a discount fireball staff... that pierces...

[late sapphire]

huge balls

It's really not fireball staff

More like bolt but balls

[vestal fulcrum]

Voidstrike is a BFG

[near gale]

It fires like the bolt staff, but, the way the projectile launches out feels like the fireball staff...

[vestal fulcrum]

Only 10 times less spectacular

[late sapphire]

i like sg dd voidstrike because the giga balls oneshot crushers and reapers and bulwarks and anything really

[near gale]

ngl I liked the bolt staff, but, it was only ever kinda nice when you had volcanic force with it... otherwise the lack of the burn dot really worked against sienna

The beam staff was the one I was best with, followed by the congruation staff or w/e it was called

I was also nice that burn dots worked on the monsters, in the chaos wastes, that were immune to ranged damage

[nocturne dust]

Seems like it just doesn't activate on push attacks now

I pushed a rager in the psykh 100 times and it didn't activate once, and activated as soon as I switched to lights

[near gale]

jeeze, with all 3* -5% peril generated talents, 6 warp charges with inner tranquility, and empyric resolve... I was only generating ~7% peril each fully charged surge zap

granted I also have t4 warp flurry on my surge staff

[nocturne dust]

does warp flurry change anything there?

[near gale]

not sure if the uh... -26.5%* charge time affects peril generated or not

wait

[nocturne dust]

well it shouldn't affect your first cast

[near gale]

It didn't, it was still 7%

[nocturne dust]

also, I don't think you need the peril gen reduction nodes, I only have 1 in my build and I only get 7.5%, lol

[near gale]

7% each surge staff cast with the 10% chance to vent 10% peril on warp kill is actually really nice

I mean... I have it since it was that or 5% toughness dr, and in all honesty I wanted to see the extra -5% <.<

This build has brain rupture, tho

Honestly between venting shriek and scrier's gaze I don't really get any extra talents back since both you want at least 2 talent points into... 1 for warp unbound, and 1 for creeping flames...

Tho I could live without creeping flames, tbh. I've heard it's good, but, I've never used it before because I wasn't sure how effective it was

[vestal fulcrum]

Taking Venting Shriek without Creeping Flames is questionable a choice

[near gale]

I never knew if the burn dot was any good, I hadn't asked, and I only wanted venting shriek in case I needed to cancel an explosion...

I since learned creeping flames is goated >.>

[analog agate]

Burn dot is excellent

[near gale]

I am not sure how easily I will learn to use venting shriek offensively, tho

[radiant frigate]

really easily

[nocturne dust]

see horde, press button, e z

[near gale]

I suppose, I learned how to play Vet without both -0.5s stamina regen delay nodes after all...

[nocturne dust]

or alternatively see horde, spam peril, press button

[radiant frigate]

i have never once used those nodes

[near gale]

on a side note: how useful is this?

[patent mango]

its peak

[nocturne dust]

IMO not very, but others have loved it

[burnt gazelle]

you just spam peril to 85%, vent at the horde/shooters from one direction and deal with other threats while they burn

[vestal fulcrum]

Good on SG/Illisi builds, otherwise a redundancy

[patent mango]

i c an keep scriers gaze up for so long with it

[near gale]

I mean... I was planning on using the illisi with this surge staff >.>

on a side note: does the 10% rending above 75% peril really affect the surge staff much?

[plush elm]

what blessings should I have for my force sword?

[near gale]

It already does pretty darn good armor damage

[split lance]

@lethal lagoon are you using flurry?

[lethal lagoon]

On surge?

Yeah

[burnt gazelle]

uncanny slaughterer for illisi prolly

[lethal lagoon]

It sometimes anim bugs now and shoot super fast?

I have no idea what's going on with surge lmao

[split lance]

im tryna figure out how you did so much more dmg than me

lol

[lethal lagoon]

Oh

[near gale]

This is what my build looks like, so far

[lethal lagoon]

I was just more aggressive

That's basically it

[split lance]

ok

i thought i was being aggressive

but ig not

lol

[lethal lagoon]

You were.

[split lance]

i dont really have a melee tho

[near gale]

I'm honestly thinking about sacrificing by crack of bone for 15 more toughness so I can take 1 hp curio and also feel good about my toughness amount

since psykers... well... kinda insta melt without toughness

[radiant frigate]

battle meditation? on a shriek build?

[near gale]

It's the only way to get that extra 15 toughness node

[burnt gazelle]

it's not so bad, i know multiple ppl who play with 3x3 stam curios, they just don't get hit more than once in a row

battle med fucks up yoru core gameplay loop

[radiant frigate]

there is a toughness node at the bottom under warp rider

it's right there

[burnt gazelle]

since you want to controllably get to 85% peril and shriek as often as possible

and spend the time in between killing elites

[near gale]

but my core gameplay loop is primarily zapping stuff with my surge staff and cutting them with my illisi...

I'll be learning how to use shriek offensively in the mean time

oh, I noticed how the 10% rending made me do 900 some damage to a crusher on a non-crit instead of 700 something

wait... no...

idk why I did more

cuz I did 929... but 949 with the 10% rending I think

oh wait I can take perfect timing to get that 15 toughness node, i'm blind x.x

This is what I'm looking like with all the toughness nodes I want, 2 toughness curios, and 1 hp curio

sacrificing 1 toughness node puts me down to 155

[steel flame]

On high toughness Regen builds I always go full toughness

[near gale]

with 3 toughness curios and -1 of the toughness nodes I want I end up with 172 toughness tho

[steel flame]

Shrug

[near gale]

I can cap out at 196 toughness, totally, with all of them

[shrewd comet]

does anybody have an inferno staff build?

[near gale]

wait... if battle meditation works against a venting shriek build, then wouldn't By Crack and Bone as well?

[burnt gazelle]

kind of. but it only works for melee weakspot kills so it's more controllable

whereas like you hit optimal peril for creeping flames and shriek but in the nanosecond before you press vent you got a kill somehow somewhere from some projectile or ... idk, barrel, or soulblaze or something and you drop to 72.5% peril

and get less stacks on vent

it's pretty expensive to take crack of bone for your build tho that you showed, it's a 3 point dip to the right hand side so you should prob consider opportunity cost

[near gale]

Well I removed battle meditation

[steel flame]

It's only worth it if you plan on engaging in melee more often than ranged

Otherwise regular quelling is more efficient

[near gale]

I mean I'm a zealot main

[steel flame]

It's excellent for scriers builds but in regular builds it will end up hurting your warp rider damage.... alot

[near gale]

but I also used to be a bw main in vt2, so I can get myself back into the staff mindset probably without much trouble

[burnt gazelle]

the other thing to consider is if you're generating enough peril in melee that you need crack of bone

[steel flame]

Most of the time Battle meditation is enough

[near gale]

I mean... I would consider that a bit more, if I didn't have both of these on my build...

[burnt gazelle]

or if your gameplay style is to staff to 100% peril, hit a few things with your melee -> start casting again

[steel flame]

Even then you can do that with quell canceling without stopping your casting

[burnt gazelle]

empyric resolve and inner tranquility is also worth testing to see if you can get to max peril fast enough on demand when you want to vent offensively; i think illisi should still be able to do it but now you gotta do the deimos-style swap instead of just being able to spam the special

[near gale]

True, plus I do have 30% faster quell speed... so I can pretty easily quell a lot of peril if I need to on the fly

[burnt gazelle]

(I have some 20% warp resist 80% other stats warp swords just ot do this faster lol)

[near gale]

I mean with both of those... and 6 warp charges I was generating 7% peril each fully charged surge cast

That's with 79% warp resist on my surge staff

[burnt gazelle]

yeah, that's what I mean, if you need to get from 0 to 82.5 to shriek a horde fast, that's going to feel like forever

[steel flame]

Melee Scriers is the only real use case Ive found for bone as of now since you kinda want high peril in melee with warp rider

[near gale]

honestly I'd rather, currently, have the extra safety with extra surge casts until I'm more comfortable psykering it up

Then i'd drop empyric for penetration of the soul

once I'm more comfortable

I'm generating roughly 11% peril each fully charged cast of the surge without empyric and with 6 warp charges

it's ~20% with 0 warp charges and without empyric

and like 12% with empyric and 0 warp charges

[burnt gazelle]

the main thing ime while learning psyker was just getting into the rhythm and feeling how much you can continue to charge and cast while at very high peril and just feathering at very high peril and how long you need to quell to get another cast off

that is easier with empyric probably, but you'd need to do some relearning and maybe some blowing up after to account for different timings if your final build is without empyric

because psyker just wants to feather at 80%-ish peril all the time if possible to keep toughness regen up and have some emergency toughness on quell available, and keep up efficiency of warp rider and whatever the new cleave one's called up if you're also using that

so sometimes having too much warp resist can also feel miserable but in a different way

[rare mesa]

which perks do yall like for purgatus

[near gale]

Well... I've found due to all the bw experience I have(however rusty it is) I am really good at not blowing up. Sure it happens once in a blue moon, but, still. The main thing I think I need to learn is the rhythm of the staff and how to survive not as a zealot lol

[vestal fulcrum]

Flak and Crit chance

[burnt gazelle]

flak/crit also

[plucky flax]

Flak unyielding.

[rare mesa]

i was tossin up between flakiac and unyielding but chaos recommendation is gold star

ty

[plucky flax]

Just use what you want though. I like unyielding to deal with bulwarks and monsters better.

My staff is 32% warp resis so I always have high crit chance from nexus.

[rare mesa]

is this gud

i like to m1 spam flame staff anyway

[plucky flax]

Hrm I have not tried that with burga but could be super good actually.

[burnt gazelle]

the node before it is a bit expensive cos that one does nothing. if you're EP vent or something you have a bunch of free talents tho so you can afford it

[steel flame]

Anyone else here use BS trauma? Something has felt a bit off with it since the update and I can't put my finger on it

[rare mesa]

m1 spamming in the pskyarium is p stronk

[plucky flax]

I have played it a couple times. Felt the same as before.

Surge is still better

[near gale]

I'm honestly kinda tempted to try out the heavy sword on the psyker

[steel flame]

I'm mad they finally gave us bs 4 but kept the cap at 6

Cowards

[plucky flax]

Yeah should be 8

[steel flame]

You aren't alone

Though it overlaps pretty hard with illi

[near gale]

heavy sword is nice on Vet

[steel flame]

Kinda wish they had kept dueling saber for psyker cause it's probably gonna catch a nerf now that actually melee inclined classes have it

[near gale]

Maybe

[steel flame]

Vet being able to one shot crushers with no setup

[plucky flax]

Especially when they have more attack speed than us

[near gale]

What's honestly sad, for me, is I got a perfectly rolled caxe on my Vet... but I don't have one on any of my 3 level 30 zealots...

[patent mango]

they could just give them a weaker variant of it

[steel flame]

That would require effort

[patent mango]

its over....

[near gale]

I have a perfect antax, on one of my zealots... but that 60% cleave targets becomes 60% finesse on the other 2 caxes...

[lethal lagoon]

@split lance Fatshark took my memory, illegally. I'll be back in a sec.

[split lance]

they disconected me midgame bc my stats were so good

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

Alright, your turn, invite me. I should be on your friends list

[near gale]

Well isn't this sad... my 3rd level 30 zealot has the 172 toughness cap for my marty build... but my 1st zealot only had 171 for the same build...

[split lance]

did you see me get fucking juggled by the big dudes

[lethal lagoon]

ye

[wild elk]

hey guys

[split lance]

hello

[wild elk]

i'm missing 1 penance as psyker, the monstruosity head pop, any tips on how to do it without friends ?

That's really a tilt to no be able to juste tag alone

[analog agate]

Ask in the lfg channels below. Just label that you want to do the penance.

[fervent yoke]

You could try the new party finder in-game, or the LFG channels

[wild elk]

what's the difference between all 4 of them ?

nvm, it's region

[karmic glacier]

How do i poke the staff to reduce peril

[wild elk]

ok i'll try that tomorrow

[karmic glacier]

or cant i

[jovial juniper]

Alternative attack

[karmic glacier]

im doing that

[jovial juniper]

"special"

[karmic glacier]

its not workibng

[jovial juniper]

🤷

Yeah probably doesn't work idk

[karmic glacier]

do all staffs get it

Or no

[stuck bridge]

1 or 2 fellas

[dark lotus]

emmm should be 2 with critical bonus 80%

[gleaming orchid]

running azyr psyker following a build guide but i have no idea why i'd use smite if i'm using normanus forge staff

am i not going to just use the staff the whole time

[next night]

Is there a way to get surge staff again ? i hate the force staff :/

[jovial juniper]

Horde reasons

[jovial juniper]

Change the mark lmao

Open your inventory

[next night]

im doing that same build too lol

[jovial juniper]

Select your staff

Look at the top right

[gleaming orchid]

i won’t lie. this makes sense.

[next night]

it says i have no items available. How do i go about getting marks ?

wait nvm i found out how thank you

[lethal lagoon]

@split lance Are you ready for LMB memes

[split lance]

Yes

Gimme 3sec

Gotta do sum

[lethal lagoon]

Best I can do is 350

[split lance]

Definitely not

[split lance]

That’s uhhhhhh 5min 10 sec

[split lance]

I’m back

But

My arm is cramping like fuck

[lethal lagoon]

Play on controller then

[split lance]

is controller good on this game/

?

[lethal lagoon]

Find out

[split lance]

also

[lethal lagoon]

People do play on xbox

[split lance]

how do more dmg

[lethal lagoon]

More angry

[split lance]

[lethal lagoon]

MORE

[reef imp]

Haven't played for a bit, is the Purgatus pretty good now?

[split lance]

always has been

[lethal lagoon]

Purg has been the same it has always been with virtually 0 difference in relative power

For basically the whole game's life

[reef imp]

Nooice. Thanks!

[lethal lagoon]

It should be extra comfy nowadays

[split lance]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-gif-25783770

^ me bc @lethal lagoon wont vc w me

[analog agate]

Purg has pretty much always been: good. But for a lot of the game… good has been the worst option

[south gull]

wait they re named surge staff?

[split lance]

Ye

[south gull]

Odd

[lethal lagoon]

@split lance Game crashed, I have to do stuff anyways.

[split lance]

all good

lmk if ur down for some more later

[lethal lagoon]

I didn't know you wanted to mic or I would have

[split lance]

LMOA

I ASKED LIKE 6 TIMES

[lethal lagoon]

Last time

[split lance]

anytihg i can do to be better

i feel i need much better movement

[lethal lagoon]

Be less aggressive when we have a stealther on our team

That's not advice for me, surely

I always forget how badly I get hit by offloaded aggro

[split lance]

yeah

i SHOULD follow that

i just needa go down first to learn we have a stealther on our team

[lethal lagoon]

Like when I went to save you at the start, those ragers dropped off the stealther I believe and got me

[split lance]

i think thats what happened to me when i got stuck upstaitrs. just a fuckton of crushers decided i was their next boy toy twink victim

[lethal lagoon]

I think that's just your personality

[split lance]

oh

are you saying you also want to make me a victim

wow

i strive to be as big as a crusher one day

[tough trench]

ok lmb psyker is fun but i cant play it anymore because im gonna get carpal tunnel

[lethal lagoon]

Do you mean because you quell cancel or because you don't use the autofire mod?

[tough trench]

i dont use autofire

[lethal lagoon]

Mad lad

[tough trench]

i tried quell canceling and its just too much

[sweet veldt]

lmb psyker?

[lethal lagoon]

Each of those damage points is earned by your blood sweat and tears

[tough trench]

hahahahah

what is the autofire mod

[lethal lagoon]

Speaking of victims, we got like a weird name every game lmao

[rigid mortar]

I can’t find a gun that’s fun to use. I enjoy the revolver but the mag is too small. Auto guns are cool but I don’t know which one I should use.

Unless im just better off using a staff

[tough trench]

scriers vraks iag

[lethal lagoon]

^

[leaden thunder]

recon is quite good and y'all have acess to the bistol now as well

[rigid mortar]

Is vraks the gun?

[rigid mortar]

The bolt pistol?

[leaden thunder]

yeah

personally I like it more then the revolver

[tough trench]

yea its infantry auto, the mark is vraks

[leaden thunder]

since no single round reload

[rose lily]

damn, Showstopper is cool but seems bad

[leaden thunder]

yep

[split lance]

BRO FR

[jovial juniper]

Because it is lol

[leaden thunder]

was the same way when it was on the flamer

[rigid mortar]

Also I thought you could use the big chain sword for psyker. Also dueling sword is fun but I need something else that’s fast and has range

[split lance]

How do you quell cancel. Also. What is that

[lethal lagoon]

And that name was definitely not explained by what I said

[split lance]

Oh 100% but it made it funnier

[lethal lagoon]

more funny*

[split lance]

Is funnier not a word

What

[lethal lagoon]

No it is

[split lance]

I’m the butt of a joke and I don’t like it

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-gif-25783770

[lethal lagoon]

People used it wrong so often that it's been a word for a while

[rose lily]

Penetrative Flame is functional right?

[split lance]

Yes

[lethal lagoon]

You quell cancel by using quell to cancel

[split lance]

Oh

[lethal lagoon]

and auto fire is so I don't break my fingies

[split lance]

I thought it was some fancy tech

[lethal lagoon]

Basically just a macro, but it's in a mod, so easier to use

hold down lmb and it fires

[split lance]

I got used to clicking like a tard from playing kovaaks

And aim labs

I wanted to have good aim. Now I have bad aim and worse scores

[lethal lagoon]

I mean I only use it for staff lmb and laspistol

Cause those are just cruel and unusual punishment to left click

[wind spruce]

If you two are playing again lmk

[tough trench]

its a carpal tunnel

[wind spruce]

I will suffer high ping to join

[split lance]

Ima just eat rq

[split lance]

Wya

[tough trench]

i play a lot of poe and my wrist is already shit

[split lance]

Bc I was high ping

[split lance]

Poe?

[wind spruce]

Aus

[split lance]

Plains of eidolon?

[split lance]

Ooooof

[wind spruce]

I can still void bowl with high ping

[split lance]

Lemme eat tho. I’m down for some

[lethal lagoon]

I'm east coast us

[tough trench]

path of exile

[lethal lagoon]

You had high ping?

Euro

[split lance]

wtf then why was I at 99+

[lethal lagoon]

Cause of your personality I guess

[split lance]

Never disrespect me again

[sweet veldt]

what does quell cancel even do

[split lance]

I’m west coast

[lethal lagoon]

Is 99 normal for west vs east coast?

[split lance]

No

[lethal lagoon]

I mean the U.S is fucking huge after all

but yeah

[steel flame]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iLleRaOJml5oUWSPD/d133741imnbJ?invite=cr-MSxMTUosMjUyNjQ3MjMwLA

[split lance]

I’m usually a bit lower

[lethal lagoon]

the servers haven't been great since patch release

[steel flame]

Quell cancel go br

[split lance]

Makes sense

[sweet veldt]

ah yes you can kill things faster that you would never kill with a staff anyways

[split lance]

Idek what I just watched

[lethal lagoon]

To be clear, I don't do that with lmb memes, too lazy too much peril

[steel flame]

You are basically using the quell animation to cancel the cast animation

[split lance]

Oooh

And it shoots faster?

[wind spruce]

Bro the target was just an arbitrary example 💀

[steel flame]

Bingo

[sweet veldt]

sure but in what world are you spamming lmb to kill stuff

[split lance]

Oh. Does it work only on limb

LMB

or right clicks too

[leaden thunder]

shooters

[steel flame]

Works on every psychic power

[sweet veldt]

fair but theres better tools for that

[steel flame]

Assail, charged m2, brain burst

[split lance]

Oh. Do you just uhhh right click left click quell

[wind spruce]

You can quell cancel assails to shoot them faster

[late sapphire]

Maybe you should try walking around in carapace armor and hitting people with a piece of concrete on a rebar handle

[split lance]

Oh

[split lance]

I gotta achieve the strength and size first

[sweet veldt]

speedrunning perils of the warp

[late sapphire]

Start with a small piece of concrete, maybe

[split lance]

Or else I’m just an idiot. Once I’m at the strength and size then I’ll be a huge idiot

[wind spruce]

I make steak then game

[steel flame]

You hit r just enough after every cast to reset the animation, letting you immediately cast again

[split lance]

How much yall think a crusher weighs

I’m at 304 rn. I gotta double it?

[sweet veldt]

500lbs

[leaden thunder]

with armor? prolly a ton or more

[split lance]

Maybe even triple it

[steel flame]

Been a thing since vermintide 1 on sienna

[leaden thunder]

them mfs are dense

[split lance]

Id think more

[late sapphire]

Ogryns weigh about a ton

[split lance]

No armor

[late sapphire]

That's 2200 lbs or so

[sweet veldt]

wait yeah no

an ogryn is around a ton

[split lance]

I’m starting to think I may not be able to achieve this size

:(

[leaden thunder]

just live on a high gravity planet and you'll be an ogryn in no time

[late sapphire]

The carapace armor idk

200kg maybe

[steel flame]

Crusher probably weighs about 2000-2500 kg

[split lance]

Can you help me get to one

[late sapphire]

You think the armor n weapon weigh as much as the ogryn?

[steel flame]

Is chaos corrupted

It could be a train for all we know

[split lance]

Considering they 1tap me at full hp. It probably has some diddy juice on it too

[late sapphire]

I'm willing to go up to 1500kg but no more

[austere warren]

What's some of the nice blessings to have on staff weapons and what for?

[late sapphire]

depends on the staff

[sweet veldt]

the baby oil is how they skate around while swinging

[split lance]

Surge-nexus flurry
Strike-nexus flurry
Purg-nexus blaze
Trauma- nexus blazing spirit

[late sapphire]

on voidstrike you take nexus surge for super crits
on voidblast (trauma) you take blazing spirit nexus for lots of soulblaze
on inferno (purgatus) you take blaze away nexus for damage and more damage
on surge you take nexus flurry for crits n cast speed

[split lance]

IS THAT HOW THEY REACH ME WHEN I DODGE BACK AND STILL GO DOWN

[late sapphire]

flurry is kinda fucked rn though

[late sapphire]

Never dodge backwards

[sweet veldt]

^

[late sapphire]

But yeah melee enemies even the lil ones move forward while attacking

This is why you can't just dodge n turn and run away

[split lance]

I slid backwards

[late sapphire]

slides don't work vs melee

worse than just dodging

[leaden thunder]

^

[split lance]

Oh

[leaden thunder]

slide puts you in a dodge state vs ranged

[split lance]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-black-cat-void-kitty-feed-me-gif-4393303474036272454

Me rn

[leaden thunder]

regular dodging is puts you in a general dodge state

[split lance]

Gobling up this information

[leaden thunder]

sprint also puts you in a dodge state vs ranged but only at certain angles

[weary crane]

best purga?

[late sapphire]

and if you collide with something the dodge duration is multiplied down to 0.2x

if you grab anticipation it's 0.3x

[steel flame]

That is one big fuckin hammer tho

[leaden thunder]

if it's just concrete it wouldn't way that much but idk about 40k concrete or if there is anything else in it

[late sapphire]

If it weighed a ton the crusher would comically flip over after dropping it

[steel flame]

Shuttup.... anyway

[sweet veldt]

rebar

[leaden thunder]

ye

[late sapphire]

it's plascrete

[leaden thunder]

mfs put microplastics in the damn concrete

[late sapphire]

plasteel enhanced rockcrete

and rockcrete is just concrete

space super concrete though, with admech chems in it

[steel flame]

Well it's heavy enough to smash my ego so it must weigh at least a ton

[late sapphire]

Ok but you can parry it with a flimsy toothpick

[steel flame]

Shuttup

[leaden thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/nuke-parry-parry-gif-17766572258316137524

claw sword vs the world

[late sapphire]

Explosions famously don't weigh anything

[steel flame]

Ya know

[late sapphire]

Think abt it

[steel flame]

He aight wrong

[split lance]

Could be lil better

But that’s min maxing

[weary crane]

theres not really a dump stat on staff

all useful

[split lance]

Dump warp or quell speed

High quell is good anyway

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

Me ^^^

[late sapphire]

me rn

(i meleed a poxburster)

[split lance]

[zinc musk]

any recommended keybinds for psyker? I have two side mouse buttons

I am used to Q for tag

[late sapphire]

my thumb button is set to reload/quell, secondary buttons for tag and socials

some psyker techs need you to quellcancel, others to swapcancel

so quell & quickswap are probably a good idea

[crisp yacht]

i have slide on my mouse button

[latent mauve]

they do

[split lance]

i use mb4 for power

[latent mauve]

they have a tdr applied

[split lance]

lmk when ur on

[wind spruce]

just updating a couple of mods will be 5 min

[sonic coral]

what are decent perks on electro staff now? Crit chance and unarmored ?

[late sapphire]

flak maniac

unarmored lel

[magic kayak]

what's TDR?

[sweet veldt]

people use weird/extra keybinds?

[late sapphire]

toughness damage reduction

[sweet veldt]

toughness damage resistance

[magic kayak]

my slide from melee is getting me killed if I don't do it right

ahh ok

[late sapphire]

doesn't help much vs a crusher overhead

[magic kayak]

I have a separate button for jump and dodge

[sonic coral]

its pretty much the only weapon where it actually makes any sense yea

[magic kayak]

That is literally what happened to me haha

[late sapphire]

no

[latent mauve]

slide back to get out of melee range and q swap to kill rafers

[split lance]

is rending trauma any good

its what i used to run

[sonic coral]

flak maniac are good go to-s but they're hardly unanimously the only perks to take

[latent mauve]

only one weapon wants unarmored

[magic kayak]

Yes it's great for team but you need a team who can take advantage of the rending trauma

[latent mauve]

caxe on vet/psyker or non IJ zealot

[magic kayak]

Really? I don't use unarmored on my caxe, maybe I should

[sonic coral]

unarmored on caxe seems crazy to me, but maybe if you dont take BM/headtaker/decimator or etc

[latent mauve]

one shot breakpoint for brutal momentum on bruisers

[late sapphire]

it hits center body

[sonic coral]

yea bruisers are the usual

tipping point

[spice veldt]

oops crab emojied when i wanted to view the replied message

what a shame

[late sapphire]

I am a victim of carcinization 😔

the only thing unarmored % effects on surge is pimpleheads and dreg shooters

[wind spruce]

@split lance 901472728 code for steam

[sonic coral]

shooters are exactly what I was thinking of yes

[late sapphire]

that's wild

flak maniac or flak elite are the default on surge

[sonic coral]

elite I could maybe see

[split lance]

sent

[late sapphire]

flak elite gives you a bp on shotgunners

[sonic coral]

interesting, that's a useful use case

[latent mauve]

Carapace is almost always a dead roll on weapons, you are welcome

[north salmon]

Hello

[harsh salmon]

is surge good on the lightning staff for a left click build?

cause it does feel good

[north salmon]

I was litteraly hear to ask cuz i saw someone going crazy with some build with left clicks

[sonic coral]

think i only take surge on voidstrike but it probably works fine on lightning if youre leaning on lmb yea

then again that was before some of the talent note revisions so maybe not anymore

maybe its goat now

[north salmon]

Ya i like surge of voidstrike spaming rmb but

[sonic coral]

those LMB nodes in the left part of the tree come to mind

[tame venture]

almost a perfect stat spread roll lol

[north salmon]

Gonna fiddle around on trainin room then with those new things

[harsh salmon]

it was never really good on voidstrike right click

not sure if that has changed

[sonic coral]

if you stack headshots with the guaranteed crit node after 5 shots it's pretty reliable

not insane enough to really be an exploit but worth mentioning

[north salmon]

i usually used a flurry and nexus but surge was fun sometiems

[sonic coral]

voidstrike has always been "put reticle at head height and that's it there's the strategy" basically

point towards heaviest crowd density

not very interesting and not as useful as tweaked out trauma imo but its cool sometimes to just blast i guess

[nocturne stream]

surge staff has innate crit which is better if you want to spam LMB

[primal plume]

WHat does rending do, again?

[harsh salmon]

i cant get any trauma staff to work, i have crit based on peril and soulflame on crit but for some reason my crit chance is halfed at the same value of peril vs my lightning staff and it also just doesnt feel good

[latent mauve]

If an enemy has 100 hp and you don’t have rending you deal almost 0

If your attack does 100% damage and you have 100% rending it bypasses the armor

[primal plume]

is this useful?

[latent mauve]

Not really

[spiral storm]

What's the current best force sword

[steel flame]

Surge is the best m1 spam hands now. You can hit 90% crit chance with all nodes, scriers and nexus, effectively doubling your fire rate which has already been tripled by quell canceling

[latent mauve]

Illisi

[steel flame]

The second best is inferno staff

[late sapphire]

no such thing

[spiral storm]

yes there is

[sonic coral]

This is not a build you're going to see people using for blaze trauma but it's fcking incredible, I spend the majority of the time in warp unbound at least on auric dam

[late sapphire]

obscurus is the current worst though

[patent mango]

deimos and illisi are both really good

[late sapphire]

illsi is the '''best'''

[steel flame]

Cause you can perma stun anything except crushers with qc m1 spam on infernus

[sonic coral]

you basically have to keep one eye glued to the tooltip or you just instantly detonate

[spiral storm]

What's the build for illisi?

[patent mango]

personally i think deimos is better

[late sapphire]

i also prefer the deimos though

[late sapphire]

standard melee psyker, right hand side everything

[sonic coral]

main purpose of the warp charges is for cooldown purposes, goal with the above build is not to hang on to them as long as possible

[spiral storm]

nah, not the talents

[sonic coral]

keep churnin

[spiral storm]

I mean the illisi blessings

[sonic coral]

burn them asap, keep your F going

[late sapphire]

uncanny slaughterer is the default 'just always good' combo

[latent mauve]

It’s not obscurus

[red bay]

whats a good Assail psyker build?

[sonic coral]

i have a really bad assail build

[late sapphire]

some people swear by bloodythirsty this and that though

[sonic coral]

if thats helpful

lol

[latent mauve]

Assail, true aim and ignore ranged on crit

[late sapphire]

perks flak maniac, stats dump warp res

[pure junco]

hows the new shock on melee heavy talent?

[spiral storm]

I've been using it

eh

you can stun a mauler or crusher sometimes

[pure junco]

been trying to make a sort of 'warpless' melee and recon las build

and thought about trying it but seemed kinda

yeah, eh

[latent mauve]

Kinda pointless

[spiral storm]

Yeah if you're using a non force sword

[latent mauve]

Could be interesting for staff bash

[spiral storm]

Namely the dueling sword

just use the special attack and poke them

[pure junco]

im using the ilsi or w.e

force

[sonic coral]

anyone know if the +finesse damage from precognition applies to the lightning staff crits or is finesse melee only, cant remember

I know its for weakspot and crit but cant remember if +finesse only applies to melee

or whatever which way fs coded it anyway

I would assume it's melee only seeing as the opposing option appears to be for staves with the -20% peril but just noodling

[wind spruce]

@lethal lagoon come play

[split lance]

play with us

:))))))))))))))))))))))))

[lethal lagoon]

Play one without me

[wind spruce]

No

[lethal lagoon]

Doggo hungry

[wind spruce]

7 min on melee mael

[lethal lagoon]

I hate melee mael, snooze alert

Unless we did melee only ourselves

Nonetheless, that doesn't change the hunger level of my dog

[wind spruce]

I can't melee only on 200 ping 😦

[lethal lagoon]

Alright, I'm getting on

[sonic coral]

interesting, it appears warp unbound does not prevent you from nuking yourself with electro

[lethal lagoon]

Yes surge is bugged

[wind spruce]

join on tren we just left our game

[sonic coral]

[spice oar]

best perks for a rending shockwave trauma staff?

[latent mauve]

Flak unyielding

[spice oar]

swag

[late sapphire]

yes

doesn't work on purg either

[tame venture]

i thought four 80%s one 60% was the max, but i somehow found one with 4 80%s and a 61%

either a rounding error or im dum

[flint swallow]

it’s a rounding error. It’s also possible to get a 59%

[late sapphire]

no!

not always

i have one that has 4 at 80 with full stats and one at 61

unless that's also a rounding error

[tame venture]

what blessings are decent on DS4 again?

[late sapphire]

uncanny shred/riposte are solid

i'd recommend riposte over shred if you like using heavies to move around

[rigid mortar]

What knife should I prioritize? Like stats, perks, blessings etc.

[merry raft]

does disrupt desteny not work in the meatgrinder?

how do people feel about the inferno staff tehse days

[wind spruce]

Correct

[merry raft]

thats so frustrating

[spice veldt]

you can make it work if you have the creature spawner mod and turn off invisibility

[weary arrow]

whats the dump stat for force sword? Mobility? Warp res?

[fleet aspen]

is voidblast the trauma staff

[wind spruce]

Warp res

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[split lance]

@wind spruce sorry longer than expected