#psyker-class

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upper sun
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pls buff

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surge needs functional blessings

plucky flax
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He said surge bad

upper sun
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surge also veri bad

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pls buff

nocturne dust
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Buff surge by making it also smite

plucky flax
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Tru

upper sun
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unironically tho

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change all of these

nocturne dust
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Charged Strike buff plz

nocturne dust
upper sun
nocturne dust
upper sun
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๐Ÿ™„

feral verge
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ill post my ep purga build

upper sun
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no

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look all im saying is

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i want fun blessings that change how weapons work

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i said before today

nocturne dust
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Do... do any blessings do that

upper sun
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blazing spirit puncture

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adheasive

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thrust

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@nocturne dust look

nocturne dust
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so like 4 out of... how many blessings?

upper sun
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im thinking they make a blessings that makes surge pull the secondary and primary targets together

nocturne dust
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Me thinks not all blessings can be gamechangers

patent steeple
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btw, I have this mk2 laspistol on my melee psyker build, but I'm not sure whether or not Unarmoured is better than Maniac on it...

upper sun
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and it deals damage as a percentage of the bigger enemy mass to the lower one

feral verge
upper sun
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so you can have some GAMEPLAY

nocturne dust
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Hot take: they should just make surge work on surge rmb

plucky flax
nocturne dust
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very hot take

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the hottest take

upper sun
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take so hot i have to blow on it once

patent steeple
strong gulch
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Brain fog moment. I forgor what adm means.

upper sun
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attack damage modifier

strong gulch
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THANK YOU

upper sun
nocturne dust
upper sun
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ur tired its 2am

strong gulch
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Ummm yes. 2 am ๐Ÿ˜…

nocturne dust
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looks at clock
5 am
Yes, 2

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If you look at the number wrong it definitely says 2

strong gulch
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yes 2

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yup

upper sun
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its too late for you....

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sleep tomorrow

nocturne dust
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I do that sometimes and I don't know why because it's awful

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Have never not regretted it

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Definitely sleep even if it's through the middle of the day if you have the option

azure karma
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Sleep? Who will FUCKING purge heretics if I'm SLEEPING

strong gulch
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good points

nocturne dust
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It is Human to sleep.

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You don't sleep, you're a filthy mutant.

azure karma
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Blessed be those whose aim is true, and don't fucking SLEEP

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Direct quote from the emeror

strong gulch
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I have coffee and soda. I will finish those before bed. It will be fine. thumbsup_ogryn

nocturne dust
strong gulch
nocturne dust
strong gulch
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oh

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but I have a tummy and flat soda pop is icky

nocturne dust
strong gulch
nocturne dust
strong gulch
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heckin no they still go flat

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maybe small bottles of club soda

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I want the drink to fight me on the way down.

nocturne dust
strong gulch
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once day

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one*

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typing hard

azure karma
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True elites drink the water, snort the carbon dioxide, and inject the flavoring directly into the bloodstream

strong gulch
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I should drink more water. I have some here. Tripple fisting beverages over here.

upper sun
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nah

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its fine

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drink more coffee

ancient plover
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can you play shield with purg staff or is it a waste

upper sun
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nah its fine

strong gulch
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Of course you can.

strong gulch
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Play what you want.

nocturne dust
strong gulch
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If you're asking for meta stuff, that's a whole other thing.

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Also, purg has blaze away now. Purg is stronger now.

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OH... I just remembered that I have watermelon next to me.

devout sluice
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Bubble shield is meta cuz it eliminates ranged/fire/gas/trapper/grenadier/beastofnurgle/snipers

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Which never get killed fast enough witb a bad team

nocturne dust
devout sluice
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Crutch for public lobbies kinda

river dawn
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is this psyker ok

devout sluice
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No

ancient plover
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Is smite viable?

devout sluice
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No

ancient plover
nocturne dust
upper sun
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call the sisters of silence

ancient plover
devout sluice
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Its waste of time

nocturne dust
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EP smite + venting shriek = everything dead

upper sun
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๐Ÿ‘† ๐Ÿ‘ˆโ˜๏ธ๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿ‘‡

nocturne dust
ancient plover
devout sluice
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If you have to play ep for it to kill its troll

nocturne dust
strong gulch
ancient plover
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I need that build right now

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Me love me some easy

nocturne dust
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I mean it's super simple and you can make it even worse with ER than what it was before

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That would be my suggestion with 2 free points to spend elsewhere

strong gulch
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I copied the build from the old tree onto the new tree. 2 points lets you get ER

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room for kd

nocturne dust
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ah yeah, wildfire and PC would make sense

ancient plover
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KD?

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ah sorry

nocturne dust
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kinetic deflection

ancient plover
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why is there no searchbar

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in the talent tree*

nocturne dust
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KD is the node I took on the bottom right

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it's real good with peril gen reduction or stamina on trinkets

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or block cost stuff

ancient plover
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wildfire and pc?

nocturne dust
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perilous combustion is the leftmost node at the top

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wildfire is below brainburst

strong gulch
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Ye. EP smite enables PC and shriek and wildfire (neither have a stack cap) helps to precook.

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but if you are short a point and REALLY need it, you can drop wildfire

ancient plover
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ty

nocturne dust
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but yeh, I recommend Empyric Resolve since that greatly extends your cook time, not that you really need it but if you want it

ancient plover
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I can just use purg with that buu

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build too no?

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purg till I get some procs of the big notable at the bottom

nocturne dust
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You could. It wouldn't maximize purge, but it certainly wouldn't be bad for purge.

nocturne dust
strong gulch
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Oh right. The thing to keep in mind with this ep smite is that it scales with enemy density. So the harder the circumstances, the stronger it is.

ancient plover
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Surge is electric staff right? Dentge

nocturne dust
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lets you worry less about fighting your team for kills

nocturne dust
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My recommendation is use VS/surge for lighter engagements and then pull out smite when the mob gets mobbing

strong gulch
ancient plover
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Ill try surge

strong gulch
nocturne dust
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all ya need is a lil aim

strong gulch
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revolver is also an option

nocturne dust
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They buffed the other revolver, right?

strong gulch
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no clue

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I hope so

nocturne dust
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Hm, they did

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not super significant tho, dunno how good that is

strong gulch
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oh. inch res ting

nocturne dust
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clearly the revolvers are meant to be cleaving cannons for elite murder

strong gulch
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It is really silly how strong revolver is.

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In capable hands some regular ass revolver and a shank are killing everything.

nocturne dust
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Idk, I feel it's only strong because of the importance of high value target murder, the game really just throws a stupid amount of specials at you

radiant frigate
strong gulch
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or a couch pillow

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
strong gulch
nocturne dust
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Just like insects

strong gulch
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the any old thing themeing

radiant frigate
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counterpoint: .45 is the back-to-back world war champion

radiant frigate
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but yes i will respect the .22

nocturne dust
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man does not know firearm safety

radiant frigate
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how would you know that the chamber is empty if you don't look down the barrel? have to make sure

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
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compared to him? we are nothing

upper sun
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DUAL 1911S WHEN????

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
nocturne dust
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I thought everyone had a pile of infinite 1911s

fossil lagoon
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toughness curios worth it for psyker ?

upper sun
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yeah

radiant frigate
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yes

nocturne dust
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I mean what else are you going to use

feral verge
radiant frigate
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wounds

radiant frigate
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more boom

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
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martyr psyker when?

upper sun
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yesterday

nocturne dust
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Crystalline them wills

vestal fulcrum
upper sun
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good

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more time to focus on force dagger

feral verge
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fuck that

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staff rework + new staves

nocturne dust
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and my force axe!

feral verge
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not sure why they dont just port over sienna's staves

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and just change the effect color

vestal fulcrum
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I want VT1 Bolt staff PepeHands

upper sun
radiant frigate
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what about melee force staff

upper sun
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  • all staves ported from vt2
upper sun
radiant frigate
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let me channel my inner monk

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
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force halberd confirmed?

radiant frigate
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void bonk..

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satisfactory

thin knoll
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How is blaze away on the purg?

upper sun
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I want to read about librarians shooting fucking assail spears

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not BONK

upper sun
vestal fulcrum
nocturne dust
thin knoll
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Nice

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And the one that adds brittleness?

upper sun
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mid

vestal fulcrum
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Less so

nocturne dust
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Nexus is better

feral verge
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i like penetrating flames over blaze away

nocturne dust
feral verge
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why?

nocturne dust
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Look, I like penetrating flames but

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over blaze away?

feral verge
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becuase purga already deletes everything that isnt carapace or unyielding

nocturne dust
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Penetrating flames doesn't hurt carapace really

feral verge
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pen flames helps more with carapace and unyielding than blaze away

thin knoll
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Good to know. I need to remake all of my builds.

nocturne dust
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Your damage is still nothing against carapace

feral verge
feral verge
thin knoll
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I just use bb for carapace or unyielding

nocturne dust
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and also everything purge normally kills

upper sun
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ignore the old man hes too stuck in his ways

feral verge
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20 lmbs of penetrating flames

vestal fulcrum
feral verge
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20 lmbs of blaze away.

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not a huge difference, but there is a difference

thin knoll
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I just want red weapons already

nocturne dust
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now do it on literally anything else

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and watch Blaze Away do way, way more

upper sun
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ok grandpa well use penetrating flames

nocturne dust
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including bosses

feral verge
ancient plover
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what are the go to blessings for the smite build with the surge staff?

feral verge
nocturne dust
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They don't even get to run at me anymore

ancient plover
nocturne dust
ancient plover
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the smite build you send me

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
feral verge
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more damage = better, even if its just idk 15% more

feral verge
nocturne dust
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It's not 15%

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and also

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You have 2 blessings

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wtf else are you using

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Nexus? Over Blaze Away?

feral verge
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i set the crusher pack on fire with 1 or two gusts of purga, then venting shriek on them, then swap to deimos and stack executor + uncanny

nocturne dust
feral verge
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what i said

nocturne dust
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don't bother with the other stuff, lol

fierce mulch
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I think the upside to Penetrating Flames is that it applies brittleness which helps the whole team. It doesn't increase your damage much but it makes crushers much softer for your team

nocturne dust
feral verge
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crusher pack

nocturne dust
feral verge
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get delete way faster when you stack soulblaze on them all

nocturne dust
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slightly faster

feral verge
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instead of meleeing them one by one

nocturne dust
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How many crushers are you trying to kill at once, freaking 100?

feral verge
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okay

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have you played hi shocktroop auric lmao

nocturne dust
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I exclusively play auric, lol

feral verge
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have you had your screen filled with 30 elites

plucky flax
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Go go fight.

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Both veri pro players not like me stuck in sedition.

nocturne dust
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I'm not even going to bother. This fellow can make their bad decisions.

plucky flax
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People can also run what they want.

nocturne dust
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Yes

upper sun
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carapace poxies when?

plucky flax
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We can suggest but should not impose.

nocturne dust
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I'm not imposing, I'm stating what is objectively better meta-wise

feral verge
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it is a well known tactic to stack soulblaze on the elite pack, using purga gusts then venting shriek, then swap to dueling sword/force sword (with uncanny + executor blessings) to MASSIVELY increase soulblaze damage

nocturne dust
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Uh huh

feral verge
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it is not slightly faster to kill the elites exlusively in melee, its much, much faster

upper sun
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however brittle is far worse than uncanny

nocturne dust
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Sure

radiant frigate
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can-unny strike

thin knoll
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Save it for the eretics, sparkeads. No fightin. It's no rations after all

feral verge
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tested it on reaper

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17 lmbs to kill with blaze away

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18 lmbs to kill with pen flame lol

thin knoll
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Anybody tried a new shotgun gunker build?

slender coyote
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recon las psyker build viable?

cloud sequoia
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yes

upper sun
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its very strong rn

mystic pike
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A psyker named OwO

slender coyote
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I assume dump stat is mobility ok ok

mystic pike
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๐Ÿคฃ

cloud sequoia
slender coyote
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Or is it collateral??

slender coyote
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wait

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I'm confused

cloud sequoia
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?

slender coyote
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the way you phrased it

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What do you mean

cloud sequoia
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KEKW_ogryn scriers gaze, it can make your psyker fragile

slender coyote
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oh so for recon it's good to go scriers

strong gulch
slender coyote
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At least there is that node that you can't overload while scriers is up so maybe I'll take that if i do a recon build

strong gulch
slender coyote
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better than laspistol then

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but more heavy on ammo i assume

strong gulch
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Assail helps

slender coyote
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ye I have 2 psykers so I can have 2 builds

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one is a purg shriek br and the other is a laspistol assail dome

strong gulch
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Doesn't vanilla game have a few loadout slots per character??

slender coyote
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what

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wdym

cloud sequoia
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wait wait wait do you have 2 psyker character?

slender coyote
cloud sequoia
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KEKW_ogryn pls say no

slender coyote
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one man 1 female

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What is wrong

cloud sequoia
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there's loadout button on top right

slender coyote
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oh no

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I made big mistake

ancient plover
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which mission was the snow one?

slender coyote
ancient plover
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Havent had the chance to get it in quick play

vernal agate
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Any good builds for flame trauma?

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๐Ÿ˜™

strong gulch
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I have 2 psykers, but I made them before resources were shared and loadouts were a thing.

slender coyote
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Should just delete my number 2 psyker..???

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they already level 60

strong gulch
strong gulch
vernal agate
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So essentially the same one as purg staff builds?

cloud sequoia
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im trying to make a new trauma

slender coyote
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OK

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You know what

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I like it this way

cloud sequoia
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KEKW_ogryn can oneshot gunners on epicentre

slender coyote
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my 2nd psyker will be my gunker

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and my original one staves

vernal agate
slender coyote
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for rp purposes aswell

cloud sequoia
vernal agate
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Rending + warp flurry is the way to go for direct damage trauma i think

strong gulch
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fire trauma outclasses rending flurry trauma.

vernal agate
strong gulch
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but rending flurry is still good

vernal agate
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Ok personally, i dont know why, but I always feel more comfy and safer bringing rending flurry trauma into melee scab only VS flame trauma

nocturne dust
# feral verge 17 lmbs to kill with blaze away

Did you account for crit variance? Cuz I just tested and PF takes 18-22 while Blaze Away takes 14-17, and Blaze Away tends towards the lower end while PF tends towards the higher end.

vernal agate
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I think math wise flame still outclasses rending even on elites/maulers/crushers but still

strong gulch
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faster cast time maybe

cloud sequoia
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trying this

strong gulch
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Like what you like ๐Ÿ‘

nocturne dust
vernal agate
strong gulch
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charge rate and blast radius are very important on trauma tho

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but if you just want to try something out, go for it

vernal agate
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Yeah warp resiist and quell speed shopuld be your dump stats no matter what lol

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Even though personally I like warp reisstance to be like, 60% ish

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I think above 60% you get 5 charged shots on trauma no matter what

strong gulch
upper sun
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i killed my 2nd zealot post update

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rip Mejara gone but not forgotten

strong gulch
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Yeah, this update really makes a second character of the same type silly at this point.

cloud sequoia
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tried the empyric resolve + inner tranquility, very funny on trauma

strong gulch
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Could have one as your testing character that way you don't feck up your main.

cloud sequoia
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KEKW_ogryn full 1 blast is like 6 -10 peril

thorn cedar
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Hardcore runs.

strong gulch
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I haven't tried it yet. That seems really rending flurry friendly.

analog agate
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Yeah get, 2 more blasts in high peril with tranq on blast staff. And overall 3.5 more blasts because of ER

strong gulch
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Not sure about fire trauma tho for shrieks and getting back to peril edging.

different way to play at least.

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oh gotcha

feral verge
analog agate
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I havenโ€™t tried it with flurry (flurry bugged on trauma?) to see what difference that makes. I am still doing blaze/nexus

feral verge
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But variance testing was a good idea

slender coyote
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Weird bugs!!!

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i'm not maximus mastery =yet either

strong gulch
slender coyote
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oh wait maybe I amsd

stable hare
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Is warp resistance the dump stat for the inferno staff?

strong gulch
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ye

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you can dump damage too

stable hare
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cool, its so nice that we are able to get max weapons so easily

feral verge
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I dump quell speed on all staves

strong gulch
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yip

stable hare
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found one just now with 61% warp res so i'm doing that

feral verge
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Quelling is very quick, even at 60%

strong gulch
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I feel the difference at 60, but as long as it's not like 40 you should mostly be fine.

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But, I don't have the best reaction time, so max quell speed is better. I don't have to be as tight with watching it.

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one less thing

stable hare
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is it penetrating flame + nexus for inferno staff now?

upper sun
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nah blaze away+nexus

analog agate
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I have been finding if are using empyric resolve quell speed can be your dump. You wonโ€™t be quelling nearly as much and you wonโ€™t be taking quietude either

stable hare
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and flak+ crit?

upper sun
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ye

analog agate
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Or at least queitude wonโ€™t be your main toughness regen talent

stable hare
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also wait, blaze away? But theres no ammo

patent steeple
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btw, I feel like my non-warp melee psyker build could probably use some more crit chance for more Mettle procs, but am unsure of whether to run Shred or Riposte on my melee...?

stable hare
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what does it count for

jovial juniper
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Blazing Away

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It stacks pretty quickly on RMB

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That was surprising

modest pasture
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Gonna make the ultimate Blaze Build for the Psyker.

stable hare
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thats actually super cool

hushed egret
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if you dont grab any on crit skills, nexus is useless on flame staff so might as well grab others. run n gun is a really nice blessing to have for charging gunners and just generally pushing, but not necessary. warp flurry can also be pretty good if you're using the charged flame a bunch, underrated for fire uptime tbh. not quite sure how good penetrating flame is tbh, but 20% brittleness is pretty good pogryn

elfin geode
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For purg inferno builds, is warp siphon the move?

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Thinking of EP for BB viability maybe but

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damage is damage

hushed egret
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you can use any keystone with purge staff. depends on what you want to make. namely, on your blitz. purge doesnt really care for any of the keystones as a weapon

strong gulch
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nexus is not useless without crit talents on purg. Crit apply another sb stack. You stack sb faster with crits

hushed egret
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it's good at building stacks for any keystone though

hushed egret
strong gulch
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If you really want to focus on purg, warp siphon is the way to go, but you are not boxed into only taking that.

Purg works well with EP BB.

hexed geyser
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I might be wrong but iirc purg can apply up to 16, and other sources can apply more after up to like 30

hexed geyser
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And 30 stacks deal way more than double the damage of 16

strong gulch
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glabal limit is 31 sb stacks. Purg usually does 15, but if the last hit is a crit then 16. PC and creeping flames can add on top of the purg stacks.

hushed egret
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do stacks from other sources count up to that 16 max stacks if applied before 16?

strong gulch
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PC and creeping flames don't have a cap other than the global limit

strong gulch
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They add to what's already applied.

hushed egret
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yes, but, do stacks of soulblaze from non purge staff sources also add to purge staffs stack limit?

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so lets say I add 5 stacks to an enemy then use purge staff. will I be stopped at 15 or 20?

strong gulch
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So let's say you have 15 on a target and shriek at 85% peril. That target then has 21 sb stacks.

strong gulch
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unless the last application is a crit

hushed egret
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can only maintain 15, so yes I could build to 20 with purge if 5 of the stacks before using purge were from another source?

strong gulch
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No

hushed egret
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okay

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does attemptimg to apply stacks when a target is over 15 stacks keep refreshing the duration or will stacks decay down to 15?

strong gulch
hushed egret
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cool

fossil lagoon
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what's the dump stat for the force swords ? warp resist ?

feral verge
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fellow npc

indigo thunder
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Anyone got a talent tree example for voidstrike staff?

hushed egret
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the staves and the psyker tree are blessed with creative freedom. you can justify pretty much any build with any staff pogryn

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the biggest questions are: what melee/blitz are you pairing it with, and why?

upper sun
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BB for purge or trauma assail for everything else

indigo thunder
hushed egret
upper sun
hushed egret
upper sun
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cant run the game rn

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but im pretty sure it works on illisi special and non special activation

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can someone check for me?

hushed egret
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you need a reliable source of both warp damage and normal damage, which means you need a staff or empowered assail

upper sun
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๐Ÿ™

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i think the special kills should give you buffs to non empowered kills and non empowered kills give the buff to special attacks

indigo thunder
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What if I don't like Assail? ๐Ÿ˜ญ

strong gulch
indigo thunder
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And is Warp Siphon bad for voidstike?

upper sun
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i cant help u ๐Ÿ˜ญ

upper sun
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im just not sure if illis special kills activate non warp damage

patent mango
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++4% damage ๐Ÿ”ฅ

strong gulch
upper sun
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it works

strong gulch
upper sun
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i just checked

strong gulch
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oh yay

indigo thunder
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Smoite? hmmgryn

strong gulch
upper sun
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we're so fuckin gaming illisi bros.........

indigo thunder
plucky flax
lilac ridge
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I like having access to the chain axe now, it's so metal

upper sun
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huh

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i forgor

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take by crack of bone>?

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or cruel fortune

gleaming orchid
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looking for a psyker build for a first time psyker player ๐Ÿ‘€

indigo thunder
lilac ridge
gleaming orchid
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what's good for a guy who's only played veteran?

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i'm takin' suggestions

elfin geode
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Voidstrike build

indigo thunder
elfin geode
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Plasma cannon analog

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(sorta)

lilac ridge
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I use a control kill Smire build with guns and the chain axe

vernal temple
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Is Focused Channelling a valid blessing for the surge staff? hmmgryn

lilac ridge
#

and shriek

#

forgot to add that one heh

gleaming orchid
#

๐Ÿค”

jovial juniper
gleaming orchid
#

you're referring to smite?

lilac ridge
#

soulblaze talents and shriek for soul blaze plus smite kills all the trash and holds all the specials still for your mates to kill em

#

usually only a boss can fuck up the wombo in the combo

#

anything left eats axe to the face or a shotgun down its gullet tehehe

jovial juniper
lilac ridge
#

the axe staggers everything but a mutie and bigger

#

which i love, fuck all them ragers maulers and even crushers

gleaming orchid
#

i like the sound of that

lilac ridge
#

iirc it stops the crusher swing

#

the only thing that takes me down is something hitting me in the back which is really bad for psykers, squishy city

#

but I embrace the glass cannon lifestyle

#

i also do smite cause can't do damage if I'm dead and those HI STG aurics smite is super clutch

#

if you pick the talents that reduce peril generated et al, i think i was channeling smite a full 80 to 100 seconds without pausing just shrieking every like 15-18 seconds pending my warp charges

gleaming orchid
#

that's wild

lilac ridge
#

you can shriek a lot and the the constant mid-high perils always means max stax of soulblaze on them filthy heretics

#

but downside being get two maybe 3 shot by chaos spawn and pogryns the nurgle noodle you kite if you don't use a shield to stop its super puke

#

i also run the cd points but im tweaking the build always. I go for passives and contsant effects or things that react to stuff you are always doing, i hope that makes sense xD

#

the melee build is wild you can tank the bosses with the right shit

#

i havent rebuilt that tree yet so havent tested in this new age of heretic fightin

magic slate
# upper sun based

is that giving you the warp damage buff or the non-warp damage buff though?

upper sun
#

both buffs activate

magic slate
#

true

upper sun
#

why the hell doesnt meatgrinder have the puppets from vt2

#

better yet

#

where is my multiplayer serverside meatgrinder

patent steeple
# upper sun why the hell doesnt meatgrinder have the puppets from vt2

because vt2's training dummies aren't as good at displaying who has what armour types on which body regions when it comes to enemies... (I know its kinda pointless nowadays, but that's probably what the devs intended when they didn't just put reskinned vt2 training dummies to the meatgrinder.)

magic slate
#

does Warp Splitting effect surge staff zaps?

patent steeple
#

also, being able to kill the enemies in meatgrinder probably was meant to be for breakpoint-testing or something idk...

jovial juniper
patent steeple
# jovial juniper Nope

shame. If the devs fixed zappy stick not working with Warp Unbound, then that could've been a cool synergy...

magic slate
#

my problem with WU is I can't keep track of it with a teams worth of buffs on me

upper sun
#

like 5 dummies in th center of each armor type

jovial juniper
#

That's it, I'm throwing the dummy off a cliff

patent steeple
upper sun
#

btw twitch drops are enabled on telo and hurrvs streams

#

and im pretty sure streams stack

#

๐Ÿค” i realllllly dont think 4 minutes is 46% of 15 minutes

plucky flax
paper lily
#

how'd ep just get buffed with smite then

#

it was already legit the most broken build in the game

jovial juniper
#

We don't really know why they buffed it

paper lily
#

u can basically have benefit of 6 warp charges with insane dmg now

#

also why am i exploding with my staff with warp unbound

#

or is it just broken

plucky flax
#

It doesn't work with staff.

#

Only blitz and sword. Xd

paper lily
plucky flax
#

Most likely bug. whatthefuck_heresy

paper lily
#

is recon lasgun psyker a meme or actually good now

#

cuz its my favorite gun

jovial juniper
#

Well uh it's being good for the past months

plucky flax
#

It's OP

paper lily
#

yeah i've not played since like may, been playing deadlock instead

plucky flax
#

Better than columbus now something else.

#

Vraks!

#

Vraks formerly known as columbus.

jovial juniper
#

Now I'll get the heavy one with Warp Splitting and Deathspitter whatthefuck_heresy

paper lily
#

hmm

#

i see zealot got giga nerfed

#

unfortunate for them ig

little hare
#

what counts as direct hit on purge for penetrating flames?

#

is it worth it?

plucky flax
#

The direct damage from left/right click.

#

It'd happen naturally when you use your staff.

little hare
#

oh so it procs a lot.

jovial juniper
plucky flax
#

Aye but I myself prefer blaze away nexus.

paper lily
#

i mean invocation is just infinitely worse if you built it properly from before

jovial juniper
#

No it's actually better because every weapon can benefit from it

#

Cleave was important
Then they nerfed IoD so it only procs once per hit
Then attack speed was important
Then they buffed IoD
So now every weapon is a reliable source of IoD as long as it crits

#

They also removed base aura from Loner, so now loner is even worse for your team

#

Then they buffed Fellowship Fortitude
Which is Loner but good for the team

magic slate
analog agate
#

I think blaze away + PF will be another version of trauma builds. Purg will be BA/PF or BA/Nex as trauma was WF/Rend or Blaze/Nex

plucky flax
summer prairie
#

WU only doesn't work with purg and surge

#

because when you use them at 100%, they delay the explosion until the end of the cast/channel and that code doesn't check for your talent

strong gulch
#

Alright you voidstrike nerds, if I don't sway my cast on a surge proc, am I better off just doing nexus flurry? I don't want my second balls getting wasted.

magic slate
#

Voidstrike make funny sound when fire through horde

strong gulch
#

ye

magic slate
#

make double funny sound when surge proc through horde

hushed egret
magic slate
#

Warp Unbound

#

Scries gaze augment

latent mauve
#

I am starting to turn off auras

radiant frigate
paper lily
#

invocation got nerfed for high cleave values, you could instantly reset ur ult with correct itemization

radiant frigate
#

yeah but that's a stupid gimmick

#

more of a fix than a nerf

paper lily
#

it wasn't a gimmick it was by far the strongest way to play the class

#

aka a nerf

hushed egret
#

but it was a fix not a nerf

#

in a way

#

never intended

paper lily
#

it was something that was good before and now is not so good

#

it is a nerf

hushed egret
#

and regardless, now it's good on every weapon

#

before you could only use a handful of weapons to really make it worthwhile

radiant frigate
#

yes very true

latent mauve
#

Good, there should not be a scenario where you can instantly regen an ult

hushed egret
#

now you can even make it work on thunder hammer

patent mango
#

the nerf is good lol

paper lily
#

yea i mean it was stupid

patent mango
#

i could get a dash per second lmfao

paper lily
#

but it was a nerf make no mistake

radiant frigate
#

now you get 8s off of your cd on crit

#

pretty damn good

patent mango
#

you technically dont need as much crit chance anymore

#

a crit every 4s

hushed egret
#

also yeah your cooldown is basically just guaranteed cut by a third

#

before you needed to be actively attacking constantly hitting several enemies to match that

#

it's actually kinda better now pogryn

#

the ceiling is lower, but the floor is higher by an order of magnitude, and it's far more versatile

#

and it cant abuse the game anymore either

strong gulch
#

Rude, these changed. Was 80 and 60 potential then changed to 78 62.

hushed egret
#

why dump blast radius?

analog agate
#

On void? There is a theory (I assume tested somewhat) that the blast radius can screw you out of your headshot hits/kills. Which messes up your surge procs

strong gulch
#

it's voidstrike

hushed egret
#

ah fair

placid crypt
#

Rolled a 0 damage surge staff. Gonna make the heretics hair spike up

strong gulch
#

epic wtf

placid crypt
#

I wish I could upgrade everything but the damage stat just for the gag of it all

analog agate
#

Aye. I remember someone asked that for the QnAs concerning warp res. Obviously, the answer was โ€œnoโ€ ๐Ÿ˜

strong gulch
#

This was supposed to be a regular T5, but the director said "no way". I ate shit in some gas. skill issue ๐Ÿฅฒ

#

Also new penance, get downed by exploding flamer. KEKW_ogryn

zinc atlas
#

What's the dump stat in DS4?

upper sun
#

mobility

feral verge
#

Mobility

feral verge
#

Mobility and defences are the dumpstats for most, if not all weapons

#

Except force sword, which warp resist is the preferred dumpstat, generally

late sapphire
#

You can also dump cleave damage on ds4

analog agate
#

I do cleave dmg for ds4. Cause I never do anything with a horde for it

radiant frigate
#

at best, 10s

#

and oh look that's permanent uptime on charge attack speed if you crit enough

strong gulch
upper sun
#

same

strong gulch
#

Did cleave dampage ever get fixed?

compact iris
#

hey can someone answer me this question? would the dummy stat on a maccabian be cleave or mobility?

upper sun
#

could be either but i would rather mobility

compact iris
#

that's what i was thinking as well

#

thankyou clad ๐Ÿ™‚

upper sun
patent wing
#

any1 knows how to access the party finder

upper sun
#

esc

#

damn they really needed to add the table in mourning star

patent wing
#

i can see why nobody is using it accordingly to the guys in the chat here, i cant even find it

upper sun
#

click escape

#

err PRESS

patent wing
#

theres no party finder

patent wing
upper sun
#

one of ur mods must be fukin wid it

jovial juniper
#

Lmao

patent wing
#

bet its psych ward

jovial juniper
#

It should be below social

patent wing
#

its not psych ward

desert snow
patent wing
#

animation_events
Healthbars
creature_spawner
Spidey Sense
CustomFlames
psych_ward
kill_tracker
PerilGauge
true_level
scoreboard
custom_hud
ManyMoreTry
DisableScreenEffects
CleanForceBlocking
Mutetants
FullAuto
BetterMelk
NumericUI
KeepSwinging

low charm
#

What exactly does this mean?

desert snow
#

+swap speed scaling with peril
You switchy weapons fasterer

low charm
#

Oh, so its just weapon swap. Okay, thanks!

strong gulch
dense tapir
#

Question, does soul stealer work with inferno staff ?

#

Like, does soul blaze kills count as "warp attack"

upper sun
#

ye they do

south viper
#

is there a knife psyker build around?

strong gulch
#

Seeing less than T4 surge is such an odd sight.

late yew
#

Different marks for staves when

placid crypt
late yew
#

i want molten beam staff as mark of purgatus

south viper
#

thank you

hardy flower
#

Can we get the staffs from martyr

#

Beam staffs pls

south viper
#

can you show curios aswell, upgrades to pick?

hardy flower
#

Just want a lil pew pew

#

Lil death ray on the heretussies

placid crypt
south viper
#

thank you

placid crypt
#

I dump mobility on the combat blade with pysker but you could prtobably dump penetration if you're running uncanny on it

#

I'm not smart enough to actually test damage vs pen, but I always at least keep finesse and first target maxed

queen fog
#

I barely test I just read what the percentage does to effect the stat and go โ€œoh sick loregryn โ€œ

upper galleon
#

Bees maxxing

#

im beeing so beepilled right now

woeful folio
#

What are some good blessings for the illisi

broken carbon
woeful folio
placid crypt
proper osprey
#

Whatโ€™s the meta for purg staff now?

feral verge
#

Flak crit chance, warp nexus + blaze away/penetrating flames @proper osprey

placid crypt
late sapphire
#

keep warp splitting its great

acoustic trench
#

What does Empyric shock actually do? Also I heard it doesn't work with purg staff?

blissful solar
fresh reef
#

nutty match

#

based fireball staff

acoustic trench
blissful solar
summer prairie
#

it's all warp damage taken by the target

acoustic trench
fresh reef
#

unchained build

blissful solar
#

oh, it's all warp damage, not just primary fire

summer prairie
#

it would be very good with purg lmb if it worked

late sapphire
#

I just swapped to a cleave damage dump ds4

#

You get a few % of sprint speed and dodge length and spend a few % of cleave dmg

hasty valve
#

Anyway to unpatch Darktide from mods? I can't talk to Hadron without crashing immediately since the update, even with all untogglable mods untoggelled

late sapphire
#

just run the batch file again

hasty valve
#

the toggle_darktide_mods file?

random wolf
#

Batch file acts like a toggle

late sapphire
random wolf
#

It turns them on and off

#

Ez fix

hasty valve
#

Ah cool thanks

late sapphire
#

It's called toggle for a reason

summer prairie
#

sounds like it's Barter with Hadron

crisp yacht
#

is flurry still bugged?

late sapphire
#

yes

patent steeple
#

btw, am I the only one who dislikes PC on gunker?

idk, I just feel like soulblaze messes with me trying to figure out which enemy is DD-marked...

radiant frigate
late sapphire
vestal fulcrum
strong gulch
#

Though fire trauma DD does't really care because you'll hit it with trauma rmb or assail.

radiant frigate
#

the reason i don't take it (PC) with my sg setup is that i am short on points and it serves little purpose outside of elite packs

#

if it is my sole source of soulblaze it does not do much

fresh reef
#

souldrinker is sooooo fucking good

orchid shadow
#

Not sure if it still works, but there was a mod that could disable individual vfx

patent steeple
radiant frigate
radiant frigate
patent steeple
radiant frigate
#

but sg does not apply soulblaze

fresh reef
radiant frigate
#

well, technically... it could..

#

sg blaze trauma...

fresh reef
#

fire shriek into horde: get shit loads of crit: spam uncharged void balls into horde, all of which are now critting and burning

proper osprey
radiant frigate
#

the crit stacks?

radiant frigate
#

i thought that's what it was but when i was messing around with it in the psykhanium i only saw it retrigger after the last one's duration was up

#

so i just wrote it off

orchid shadow
#

Wait.. what? Per enemy killed? It stacks?

proper osprey
#

And how does blaze away work on purg? Just curious @grim inlet or @feral verge what breakpoint does it help hit?

lethal lagoon
#

If SG worked on Surge, I'd definitely run it over shriek

#

My warpfire damage is pretty low post patch

proper osprey
#

Also Iโ€™m guessing they didnโ€™t fix surge on the trauma and surge staff

#

Has anyone tested it?

radiant frigate
#

"fix" meaning making it apply to more than just the little bolts?

upper sun
late sapphire
#

I run PC on my voidstrike sg dd build

upper sun
#

imagine soulblaze stacks

#

now imagine them with 40% extra power

late sapphire
#

Me like when i throw a ball into a gunner group and 6 of them explode and the other 8 die seconds later

proper osprey
upper sun
#

imagine the soulblaze stacks in ur head as an apple

#

now rotate the stacks

proper osprey
radiant frigate
late sapphire
#

Your ears are too big! Don't even fit in the profile picture

strong gulch
#

serval things

magic kayak
#

So flury on purg is not really working right? What's a good substitute? I thought of brittle just to help support the team damage

upper sun
#

blaze away nexus

#

scab is up

#

you know what that means

magic kayak
#

How is blaze away good though? most all damage of the staff is the burn stacks so can't see how that's great?

radiant frigate
#

power affects soulblaze

radiant frigate
magic kayak
#

yeah but only while shooting current clip

#

so you get 40% damage for half a cast

idle bay
#

Does soulblaze stacks snapshot power at the moment of application?

radiant frigate
#

continue flamerizing then

magic kayak
#

I guess it's not terrible, but I feel like brittle would probably be better if your team is also doing damage

radiant frigate
magic kayak
#

yeah, no snapshot, you can swap to melee after ticks are applied to affect damage

jovial juniper
proper osprey
radiant frigate
#

rending too

proper osprey
#

Feel like at 40 power you get the damage from rending lol

#

Idk havenโ€™t tested it

#

Wish soul drinker wasnโ€™t on the right tree

desert mortar
#

Could someone provide me with the dump stat for each staff type?

weak galleon
#

Manstopper on the double barrel and Warp Splitting stacks, right?

magic kayak
#

Dump stat for heavy swords on psyker?

#

im thinking cleave targets because I could always run the 100% cleave based on peril talent which is what I plan to use with the heavy sword

zinc atlas
#

Guys perks for ds4? Non crit build (agile thrust)

magic kayak
#

non crit is probably uncanny plus relentless

#

but frankly I think agile is super amazing

#

infinite dodging is crazy

zinc atlas
magic kayak
#

oh my bad, I do maniacs and carapace but some do maniacs and unyielding

#

carapace for me because of crushers and maulers being carapace on head, maniacs for ragers headshot

#

I believe the pinned guide considers maniac unyielding to be bis though

upper sun
#

bruh

#

i try to teach people about medicae etiquette and they tell me to watch my ego

fresh reef
#

I gotta say, being able to just decided 'nah I ain't letting the warp bother me today' and resetting it back to zero with practically no consequence

#

quite nice

upper sun
fresh reef
analog agate
idle bay
#

I still a bit upset that Psykers did not get to use Plasmagun.... I know it's silly. But still...

desert mortar
tough trench
#

friends if im trying a default attack build for staff, 1. is this on the path to more succes, 2. where do i go on the bottom

summer prairie
#

How does it make sense to dump quell if you have empyric resolve? Either you have to quell or you don't, in the latter case WR doesn't do anything either

#

either way it doesn't make much difference, wouldn't get two weapons just for that

#

if anything having high WR from ER makes your quell stat more effective

analog agate
zinc atlas
#

curios for ep/smite/surge build?

analog agate
desert mortar
analog agate
#

For blast staff you get get another blast with warp at 80 vs 60

split lance
#

Like 100k

analog agate
#

I could be wrong and would love to be corrected. But using ER you are leaning more into preventing warp as much as possible.

summer prairie
#

Not quelling as much doesn't mean more WR is better

split lance
#

Rest is really just up to you imo

orchid shadow
split lance
#

Bois. What is the fastest way to kill the twins as psyker

#

Ds?

zinc atlas
tough trench
#

surge with surge staff

split lance
alpine flare
#

I've never mucked with gun psyker, what are the go-to weapons for it?

analog agate
# summer prairie Not quelling as much doesn't mean more WR is better

I am only speaking for trauma staff as that is all I have tested. But warp res at 80 gives you another blast and you rely not on quietude to get toughness back. You rely on either killing or generating warp charges which also means more killing.

I do find the extra blast is worth it over quell speed in that case. I DONโ€™t find it worth it if I am using Penetration because I am then leaning into quietude more and quell speed I like more

split lance
summer prairie
#

another blast starting from 0?

ornate hamlet
#

Gun is gun

#

Use anything that isn't that dumb speedloader revolver

orchid shadow
# tough trench surge with surge staff

The definitely try to get Empyric Resolve in the left tree. I go down the Warp Siphon tree for more -Peril generation on my left click build, but I'm not a shield user, so I'm not sure what your needs are.

late sapphire
#

If you're optimizing for twins take ogryn gunlugger or crackhead chainaxe zealot

split lance
left basin
#

bliblings

late sapphire
#

Idk it's like asking 'how to best jump a jumprope while on my knees' idk just stand up first

plucky flax
left basin
#

what do you use bliblings

#

as in

magic kayak
late sapphire
left basin
#

what do you use on scriers' void

plucky flax
#

I play psyker at twins ez.

analog agate
# summer prairie another blast starting from 0?

Another blast in the high peril phase if I remember correctly. I can look through my comments as I did do this test a few days ago. I am not playing at the moment so canโ€™t confirm if it was from 0 vs from ~60 onwards

late sapphire
#

I'm not saying psyker cant hold itself at twins i'm just saying other builds can solo twins hardmode without issue

summer prairie
#

it would be very surprising if more 80 WR gave you more blasts than 80 Quell speed when quelling for 1-2 tics from 100

patent wing
#

im just fed up with carrying <100s with trash loadouts, is some1 here online to play rolling steel?

analog agate
plucky flax
#

@split lance if you need help with twins I can come do it real fast.

split lance
plucky flax
#

Can get a couple guys from here I'm sure.

split lance
#

If ur on later im down

plucky flax
#

Later I'll be sleeping. I'm on UK time.

patent wing
#

you can still play twins?

orchid shadow
# tough trench what is warp siphon tree

It has a branching node that'll give -peril per stack. Plus with the added benefit of Ability Cooldown reduction if your playstyle requires constant cycling of your Ability

summer prairie
#

With 60 quell speed you quell 9.578 peril per tic, with 80 12.315

tough trench
#

oh i dunno how i missed that

#

thanks boss

split lance
#

Omg itโ€™s you agent chaos

#

I love you

plucky flax
#

No it's me being selfish in war..

split lance
shrewd comet
#

erm..kind of a dumb question here, but whats the difference between Voidstrike and Voidblast staves?

plucky flax
#

Voidblast formerly known as trauma. nooooo

shrewd comet
#

ahh capisce. thank you

left basin
#

one is line removal

leaden thunder
late sapphire
#

voidstrike strikes the void, voidblast blasts the void duh

leaden thunder
split lance
rare mesa
#

hows blaze away / pen flame on flame staff

plucky flax
late sapphire
plucky flax
# split lance Whatโ€™s tree gonna look like for this tho

Additional peril generation reduction and having soulstealer make you tankier and can spam surge (electrokinetic) more. As always, smash F to spam creeping flames and everything will die. Smite is there for super hairy situation but 90% of the map you will just spam your staff.
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patent wing
#

agentchaos are u up for some rolling steels without voic

split lance
plucky flax
#

I can do 1 rolling steels if you want.

split lance
plucky flax
#

Actually let's do it. It'll be my 2nd time playing that map.

#

I hope someone know how to do the mini game I am not doing it. whatthefuck_heresy

patent wing
#

my third time lol

#

i was confused as well, its just w a s d the ball in the middle

strong gulch
#

You'll have an idea of what do lol.

split lance
#

Rolling steel has to be my unluckiest map. Iโ€™m constantly clipping through something and hanging off a ledge

upper sun
#

needs to be taken off rotation

split lance
#

It gives less XP ๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก

strong gulch
#

Getting that map 4 times in a row...

patent wing
#

its a super fast map

proper osprey
strong gulch
#

Regular T5 had 4 mutants just show up plus other specials all at once.

late oriole
#

best purgatus staff ?

strong gulch
#

nexus + blaze away and flak + your choice

late oriole
#

i'll try that thanks

analog agate
summer prairie
#

And how many tics of quelling to cast 1,2,3 times?

#

From 100

dire smelt
#

is damage still the dump stat for the voidblast? peepoStudy

radiant frigate
dire smelt
#

warp resist then

radiant frigate
#

yes

dire smelt
#

i assume its the dump stat for all staves

#

maybe not purgatus but idk

split lance
#

If you donโ€™t explode on Psyker ur just doing it wrong

dire smelt
#

flamer used to have damage as dump stat

radiant frigate
#

voidstrike can also dump blast radius

#

voidblast cannot

#

(thanks fatshark)

dire smelt
latent mauve
radiant frigate
#

infantry autoguns renaming columnus to vraks and graia to columnus is definitely worse

upper sun
#

i hate vraks so much that world deserves everyhing it got

radiant frigate
#

what did vraks do

upper sun
#

bunch of heresy

#

unironically

#

the story of atoma is pretty much vraks only less intresting

radiant frigate
upper sun
#

no

latent mauve
#

Yes

plucky flax
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Damn bruh some people are so bad at train.

patent wing
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yeah

upper sun
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train is bad

patent wing
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was close tho, 1sec

upper sun
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the mission is legit 1 minute too short

radiant frigate
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i have never done the fidgety tech thingy on the train

plucky flax
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I can see how it's impossible to just play well and can't carry.

analog agate
radiant frigate
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what is it like

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the bomb defuse thing

plucky flax
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You can't let the circle touch the sides.

patent wing
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wasd balancing

upper sun
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the new mini game takes too long

latent mauve
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Yeah I had Ainz on the mini game while I booked