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He said surge bad
Buff surge by making it also smite
Tru
Charged Strike buff plz
lmb spam hates you
USE A VOIDSTRIKE THEN
CRIT BONUS
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ill post my ep purga build
no
look all im saying is
i want fun blessings that change how weapons work
i said before today
Do... do any blessings do that
so like 4 out of... how many blessings?
im thinking they make a blessings that makes surge pull the secondary and primary targets together
Me thinks not all blessings can be gamechangers
btw, I have this mk2 laspistol on my melee psyker build, but I'm not sure whether or not Unarmoured is better than Maniac on it...
and it deals damage as a percentage of the bigger enemy mass to the lower one
EP purga
so you can have some GAMEPLAY
Hot take: they should just make surge work on surge rmb
I personally use maniac undying. Las pistol and recon already have good flak adm
sure that too
take so hot i have to blow on it once
I can try that combo. Thx for the suggestion!
Brain fog moment. I forgor what adm means.
attack damage modifier
THANK YOU
go eep
Attack Damage Mage
ur tired its 2am
Ummm yes. 2 am ๐
I do that sometimes and I don't know why because it's awful
Have never not regretted it
Definitely sleep even if it's through the middle of the day if you have the option
Sleep? Who will FUCKING purge heretics if I'm SLEEPING
good points
The God Emperor
It is Human to sleep.
You don't sleep, you're a filthy mutant.

Blessed be those whose aim is true, and don't fucking SLEEP
Direct quote from the emeror
Aye, may the God Emperor forgive them for I won't.
I have coffee and soda. I will finish those before bed. It will be fine. 
The cooling box was made for such occasions.
cooling box?
fridge
you don't have bottles?
Cans.
Get a bottle for future occurrences.
heckin no they still go flat
maybe small bottles of club soda
I want the drink to fight me on the way down.
well what you do is drink water get a machine that can inject dioxide into the liquid not take too much soda that you can't finish die, heretic
fecking true
once day
one*
typing hard
True elites drink the water, snort the carbon dioxide, and inject the flavoring directly into the bloodstream
I should drink more water. I have some here. Tripple fisting beverages over here.
can you play shield with purg staff or is it a waste
nah its fine
Of course you can.
Play what you want.
Bubble best bubble
If you're asking for meta stuff, that's a whole other thing.
Also, purg has blaze away now. Purg is stronger now.
OH... I just remembered that I have watermelon next to me.
Bubble shield is meta cuz it eliminates ranged/fire/gas/trapper/grenadier/beastofnurgle/snipers
Which never get killed fast enough witb a bad team
Si, I actually rarely need to use vent because things die before they reach max stacks with the staff
Crutch for public lobbies kinda
is this psyker ok
No
Is smite viable?
No

It's meta

Its waste of time
EP smite + venting shriek = everything dead
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bro doesn't know ๐
can you post the build?
If you have to play ep for it to kill its troll
I don't have an EP smite build, I find it too boring 
ep smite + shriek in action
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I mean it's super simple and you can make it even worse with ER than what it was before
That would be my suggestion with 2 free points to spend elsewhere
I copied the build from the old tree onto the new tree. 2 points lets you get ER
room for kd
ah yeah, wildfire and PC would make sense
kinetic deflection
KD is the node I took on the bottom right
it's real good with peril gen reduction or stamina on trinkets
or block cost stuff
wildfire and pc?
Ye. EP smite enables PC and shriek and wildfire (neither have a stack cap) helps to precook.
but if you are short a point and REALLY need it, you can drop wildfire
ty
but yeh, I recommend Empyric Resolve since that greatly extends your cook time, not that you really need it but if you want it
I can just use purg with that buu
build too no?
purg till I get some procs of the big notable at the bottom
You could. It wouldn't maximize purge, but it certainly wouldn't be bad for purge.
Most use surge or voidstrike for that since they more easily kill elites
Oh right. The thing to keep in mind with this ep smite is that it scales with enemy density. So the harder the circumstances, the stronger it is.
Surge is electric staff right? 
lets you worry less about fighting your team for kills
electro, yes
My recommendation is use VS/surge for lighter engagements and then pull out smite when the mob gets mobbing
Surge is the recommended staff. It can tackle crushers and bosses. But the main point is to get an ep stack before smiting.
Ill try surge
So can VS 
ye not disagreeing
all ya need is a lil aim
revolver is also an option
They buffed the other revolver, right?
oh. inch res ting
clearly the revolvers are meant to be cleaving cannons for elite murder
It is really silly how strong revolver is.
In capable hands some regular ass revolver and a shank are killing everything.
Idk, I feel it's only strong because of the importance of high value target murder, the game really just throws a stupid amount of specials at you
it's only fitting for God's chosen caliber
put that on a mug
or a couch pillow
.22?
.45
seems right
Nah, God chose .22, that's why it's so common
Just like insects
YOu right. I forgor.
the any old thing themeing
counterpoint: .45 is the back-to-back world war champion
but yes i will respect the .22
man does not know firearm safety
how would you know that the chamber is empty if you don't look down the barrel? have to make sure
Ogryn-approved firearm safety
man has a pile of infite 1911s
compared to him? we are nothing
DUAL 1911S WHEN????
Wait, you don't?
no ๐ญ
I thought everyone had a pile of infinite 1911s
toughness curios worth it for psyker ?
yeah
yes
I mean what else are you going to use
big yes
wounds
Pretty much, yeah
more boom

martyr psyker when?
yesterday
Crystalline them wills
Force great sword has been delayed by another year by this suggestion alone

and my force axe!
not sure why they dont just port over sienna's staves
and just change the effect color
I want VT1 Bolt staff 
new specials for all staves
what about melee force staff
- all staves ported from vt2
yes
let me channel my inner monk
They grow a sword out of their end so we have force spearsword?
force halberd confirmed?
i tried to read souldrinkers for some cool psyker space marine action
i got bonk instead of void blasts
How is blaze away on the purg?
very good
Optimal.
Best blessing available, easily
mid
Less so
Nexus is better
i like penetrating flames over blaze away
ew
why?
becuase purga already deletes everything that isnt carapace or unyielding
Penetrating flames doesn't hurt carapace really
pen flames helps more with carapace and unyielding than blaze away
Good to know. I need to remake all of my builds.
Your damage is still nothing against carapace
it doesnt, but it does more than blaE away
well aware
I just use bb for carapace or unyielding
Except Blaze Away does more for the one that actually changes, unyielding
and also everything purge normally kills
ignore the old man hes too stuck in his ways
20 lmbs of penetrating flames
In terms of general team-wide application, also?
I just want red weapons already
ok grandpa well use penetrating flames
including bosses
i dont need to kill hordes faster
what are the go to blessings for the smite build with the surge staff?
ive not tested unyielding yet
Actually, killing ragers just that much faster is super useful
They don't even get to run at me anymore
flurry nexus for surge
just tried it its super fun but I hate getting hit in the back 
You ain't killing carapace anytime today either, so why do you care about a tiny bit more carapace damage?
the smite build you send me
si, you can't get hit in the back, that undoes your smite
to kill them faster
Draw your sword and kill them dozens of times faster
more damage = better, even if its just idk 15% more
i do lmao
It's not 15%
and also
You have 2 blessings
wtf else are you using
Nexus? Over Blaze Away?
i set the crusher pack on fire with 1 or two gusts of purga, then venting shriek on them, then swap to deimos and stack executor + uncanny
or just, y'know, swap to deimos and kill them quicker
re read
what i said
don't bother with the other stuff, lol
I think the upside to Penetrating Flames is that it applies brittleness which helps the whole team. It doesn't increase your damage much but it makes crushers much softer for your team
nothing has changed
crusher pack
much softer is a strong choice of words
get delete way faster when you stack soulblaze on them all
slightly faster
instead of meleeing them one by one
How many crushers are you trying to kill at once, freaking 100?
I exclusively play auric, lol
have you had your screen filled with 30 elites
I'm not even going to bother. This fellow can make their bad decisions.
People can also run what they want.
Yes
carapace poxies when?
We can suggest but should not impose.
I'm not imposing, I'm stating what is objectively better meta-wise
it is a well known tactic to stack soulblaze on the elite pack, using purga gusts then venting shriek, then swap to dueling sword/force sword (with uncanny + executor blessings) to MASSIVELY increase soulblaze damage
Uh huh
ye its great
it is not slightly faster to kill the elites exlusively in melee, its much, much faster
however brittle is far worse than uncanny
Sure
can-unny strike
Save it for the eretics, sparkeads. No fightin. It's no rations after all
tested it on reaper
17 lmbs to kill with blaze away
18 lmbs to kill with pen flame lol
Anybody tried a new shotgun gunker build?
recon las psyker build viable?
yes
its very strong rn
A psyker named OwO
I assume dump stat is mobility ok ok
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but you play with crits tho
Or is it collateral??
crits is fine for me
wait
I'm confused
?
scriers gaze, it can make your psyker fragile
oh so for recon it's good to go scriers
Ye. If you're bad at the game like me. ๐ฅฒ
At least there is that node that you can't overload while scriers is up so maybe I'll take that if i do a recon build
Yeah. Basically stack crit chance and buff damage with SG and DD. Take true aim (even with the nerf) and EE. Put Infurnus on it and melt things.
Assail helps
ye I have 2 psykers so I can have 2 builds
one is a purg shriek br and the other is a laspistol assail dome
Doesn't vanilla game have a few loadout slots per character??
wait wait wait do you have 2 psyker character?
yes
pls say no
which mission was the snow one?
clandestium gloriana
Havent had the chance to get it in quick play
I have 2 psykers, but I made them before resources were shared and loadouts were a thing.
The same old one is still good. Can't rely on mettle to build toughness tho.
Just leave em.
So essentially the same one as purg staff builds?
im trying to make a new trauma
can oneshot gunners on epicentre
So just rending trauma?
for rp purposes aswell
switching the rending to crit and see how it goes
Rending + warp flurry is the way to go for direct damage trauma i think
idk if you use kd or not
Here for fire trauma.
fire trauma outclasses rending flurry trauma.
Awesome ๐
but rending flurry is still good
Ok personally, i dont know why, but I always feel more comfy and safer bringing rending flurry trauma into melee scab only VS flame trauma
Did you account for crit variance? Cuz I just tested and PF takes 18-22 while Blaze Away takes 14-17, and Blaze Away tends towards the lower end while PF tends towards the higher end.
I think math wise flame still outclasses rending even on elites/maulers/crushers but still
faster cast time maybe
trying this
Like what you like ๐
and this is with using FullAuto for consistency
I like both. because goddamn i love CC
charge rate and blast radius are very important on trauma tho
but if you just want to try something out, go for it
Yeah warp resiist and quell speed shopuld be your dump stats no matter what lol
Even though personally I like warp reisstance to be like, 60% ish
I think above 60% you get 5 charged shots on trauma no matter what
same lol
Yeah, this update really makes a second character of the same type silly at this point.
tried the empyric resolve + inner tranquility, very funny on trauma
Could have one as your testing character that way you don't feck up your main.
full 1 blast is like 6 -10 peril
Hardcore runs.
I haven't tried it yet. That seems really rending flurry friendly.
it is
Yeah get, 2 more blasts in high peril with tranq on blast staff. And overall 3.5 more blasts because of ER
Not sure about fire trauma tho for shrieks and getting back to peril edging.
different way to play at least.
oh gotcha
I thought about testing it with no additional crit feats/blessings, but got distracted
I havenโt tried it with flurry (flurry bugged on trauma?) to see what difference that makes. I am still doing blaze/nexus
But variance testing was a good idea
No clue tbh. I think trauma and void are fine iirc. Surge and purg are goofed up. Same staves that are not working with warp unbound too (surge and surg).
oh wait maybe I amsd
Is warp resistance the dump stat for the inferno staff?
cool, its so nice that we are able to get max weapons so easily
I dump quell speed on all staves
yip
found one just now with 61% warp res so i'm doing that
Quelling is very quick, even at 60%
I feel the difference at 60, but as long as it's not like 40 you should mostly be fine.
But, I don't have the best reaction time, so max quell speed is better. I don't have to be as tight with watching it.
one less thing
is it penetrating flame + nexus for inferno staff now?
nah blaze away+nexus
I have been finding if are using empyric resolve quell speed can be your dump. You wonโt be quelling nearly as much and you wonโt be taking quietude either
and flak+ crit?
ye
Or at least queitude wonโt be your main toughness regen talent
also wait, blaze away? But theres no ammo
btw, I feel like my non-warp melee psyker build could probably use some more crit chance for more Mettle procs, but am unsure of whether to run Shred or Riposte on my melee...?
what does it count for
Gonna make the ultimate Blaze Build for the Psyker.
thats actually super cool
you can justify like, half the blessings based on playstyle
if you dont grab any on crit skills, nexus is useless on flame staff so might as well grab others. run n gun is a really nice blessing to have for charging gunners and just generally pushing, but not necessary. warp flurry can also be pretty good if you're using the charged flame a bunch, underrated for fire uptime tbh. not quite sure how good penetrating flame is tbh, but 20% brittleness is pretty good 
For purg inferno builds, is warp siphon the move?
Thinking of EP for BB viability maybe but
damage is damage
you can use any keystone with purge staff. depends on what you want to make. namely, on your blitz. purge doesnt really care for any of the keystones as a weapon
nexus is not useless without crit talents on purg. Crit apply another sb stack. You stack sb faster with crits
it's good at building stacks for any keystone though
oh I see. it applies them super fast though anyways, especially if you have perilous combustion which isnt unlikely imo
If you really want to focus on purg, warp siphon is the way to go, but you are not boxed into only taking that.
Purg works well with EP BB.
I might be wrong but iirc purg can apply up to 16, and other sources can apply more after up to like 30
basically
And 30 stacks deal way more than double the damage of 16
glabal limit is 31 sb stacks. Purg usually does 15, but if the last hit is a crit then 16. PC and creeping flames can add on top of the purg stacks.
do stacks from other sources count up to that 16 max stacks if applied before 16?
PC and creeping flames don't have a cap other than the global limit
yes, but ?
They add to what's already applied.
yes, but, do stacks of soulblaze from non purge staff sources also add to purge staffs stack limit?
so lets say I add 5 stacks to an enemy then use purge staff. will I be stopped at 15 or 20?
So let's say you have 15 on a target and shriek at 85% peril. That target then has 21 sb stacks.
yes, that wasnt my question 
purg can only maintain 15
unless the last application is a crit
can only maintain 15, so yes I could build to 20 with purge if 5 of the stacks before using purge were from another source?
No
okay
does attemptimg to apply stacks when a target is over 15 stacks keep refreshing the duration or will stacks decay down to 15?
It will decay back down to the cap.
cool
what's the dump stat for the force swords ? warp resist ?
also, i love you
fellow npc
Anyone got a talent tree example for voidstrike staff?
i use this
the staves and the psyker tree are blessed with creative freedom. you can justify pretty much any build with any staff 
the biggest questions are: what melee/blitz are you pairing it with, and why?
BB for purge or trauma assail for everything else
Why did you pick malefic momentum without a gun?
boring 
it works on melee kills
malefic momentum isnt good with a gun
cant run the game rn
but im pretty sure it works on illisi special and non special activation
can someone check for me?
you need a reliable source of both warp damage and normal damage, which means you need a staff or empowered assail
I can, soon 
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i think the special kills should give you buffs to non empowered kills and non empowered kills give the buff to special attacks
What if I don't like Assail? ๐ญ
And is Warp Siphon bad for voidstike?
i cant help u ๐ญ
nah i know that
im just not sure if illis special kills activate non warp damage
++4% damage ๐ฅ
You can take BB for psykinetic's aura. Less ideal,
it works
I thought it did. Now I can't remember. heck
i just checked
oh yay
Smoite? 
It's not that it's bad, it's that DD offers more for it.
Am I dumb or there is one free point left?
Both are good.
I like having access to the chain axe now, it's so metal
looking for a psyker build for a first time psyker player ๐
Decide on a weapon first
do you want to be mid or long ranged or a melee smackity hit psyker
Voidstrike build
Being metally prepared to hit the floor a lot at the beginning 
I use a control kill Smire build with guns and the chain axe
Is Focused Channelling a valid blessing for the surge staff? 
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Electro for turning off aiming
you're referring to smite?
soulblaze talents and shriek for soul blaze plus smite kills all the trash and holds all the specials still for your mates to kill em
usually only a boss can fuck up the wombo in the combo
anything left eats axe to the face or a shotgun down its gullet tehehe

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ba81400-4c60-4362-9756-f93428dfc021/azyr-psyker-smite-venting-shriek-empowered-psionics-auric-ready
might just try this out for a first time build
Electrokinectic staff (former Surge staff)
the axe staggers everything but a mutie and bigger
which i love, fuck all them ragers maulers and even crushers
i like the sound of that
iirc it stops the crusher swing
the only thing that takes me down is something hitting me in the back which is really bad for psykers, squishy city
but I embrace the glass cannon lifestyle
i also do smite cause can't do damage if I'm dead and those HI STG aurics smite is super clutch
if you pick the talents that reduce peril generated et al, i think i was channeling smite a full 80 to 100 seconds without pausing just shrieking every like 15-18 seconds pending my warp charges
that's wild
you can shriek a lot and the the constant mid-high perils always means max stax of soulblaze on them filthy heretics
but downside being get two maybe 3 shot by chaos spawn and pogryns the nurgle noodle you kite if you don't use a shield to stop its super puke
i also run the cd points but im tweaking the build always. I go for passives and contsant effects or things that react to stuff you are always doing, i hope that makes sense xD
the melee build is wild you can tank the bosses with the right shit
i havent rebuilt that tree yet so havent tested in this new age of heretic fightin
is that giving you the warp damage buff or the non-warp damage buff though?
both buffs activate
true
why the hell doesnt meatgrinder have the puppets from vt2
better yet
where is my multiplayer serverside meatgrinder
because vt2's training dummies aren't as good at displaying who has what armour types on which body regions when it comes to enemies... (I know its kinda pointless nowadays, but that's probably what the devs intended when they didn't just put reskinned vt2 training dummies to the meatgrinder.)
does Warp Splitting effect surge staff zaps?
also, being able to kill the enemies in meatgrinder probably was meant to be for breakpoint-testing or something idk...
Nope
shame. If the devs fixed zappy stick not working with Warp Unbound, then that could've been a cool synergy...
my problem with WU is I can't keep track of it with a teams worth of buffs on me
we can have both cant we?
like 5 dummies in th center of each armor type
That's it, I'm throwing the dummy off a cliff
same, actually, but only sometimes...
btw twitch drops are enabled on telo and hurrvs streams
and im pretty sure streams stack
๐ค i realllllly dont think 4 minutes is 46% of 15 minutes
If you play on pc you can use mods for this.
how'd ep just get buffed with smite then
it was already legit the most broken build in the game
u can basically have benefit of 6 warp charges with insane dmg now
also why am i exploding with my staff with warp unbound
or is it just broken

Most likely bug. 
Well uh it's being good for the past months
It's OP
yeah i've not played since like may, been playing deadlock instead
Now I'll get the heavy one with Warp Splitting and Deathspitter 
The direct damage from left/right click.
It'd happen naturally when you use your staff.
oh so it procs a lot.
Invocation of Death is back on the menu 
Aye but I myself prefer blaze away nexus.
i mean invocation is just infinitely worse if you built it properly from before
No it's actually better because every weapon can benefit from it
Cleave was important
Then they nerfed IoD so it only procs once per hit
Then attack speed was important
Then they buffed IoD
So now every weapon is a reliable source of IoD as long as it crits
They also removed base aura from Loner, so now loner is even worse for your team

Then they buffed Fellowship Fortitude
Which is Loner but good for the team

which mods are these now? just showallbuffs?
I think blaze away + PF will be another version of trauma builds. Purg will be BA/PF or BA/Nex as trauma was WF/Rend or Blaze/Nex
Crosshair hud
WU only doesn't work with purg and surge
because when you use them at 100%, they delay the explosion until the end of the cast/channel and that code doesn't check for your talent
Alright you voidstrike nerds, if I don't sway my cast on a surge proc, am I better off just doing nexus flurry? I don't want my second balls getting wasted.
Voidstrike make funny sound when fire through horde
ye
make double funny sound when surge proc through horde
what's wu?
I am starting to turn off auras
where exactly
they got buffed
invocation got nerfed for high cleave values, you could instantly reset ur ult with correct itemization
and regardless, now it's good on every weapon
before you could only use a handful of weapons to really make it worthwhile
yes very true
Good, there should not be a scenario where you can instantly regen an ult
now you can even make it work on thunder hammer
the nerf is good lol
yea i mean it was stupid
i could get a dash per second lmfao
but it was a nerf make no mistake
also yeah your cooldown is basically just guaranteed cut by a third
before you needed to be actively attacking constantly hitting several enemies to match that
it's actually kinda better now 
the ceiling is lower, but the floor is higher by an order of magnitude, and it's far more versatile
and it cant abuse the game anymore either
Rude, these changed. Was 80 and 60 potential then changed to 78 62.
why dump blast radius?
On void? There is a theory (I assume tested somewhat) that the blast radius can screw you out of your headshot hits/kills. Which messes up your surge procs
it's voidstrike
ah fair
Rolled a 0 damage surge staff. Gonna make the heretics hair spike up
epic wtf
I wish I could upgrade everything but the damage stat just for the gag of it all
Aye. I remember someone asked that for the QnAs concerning warp res. Obviously, the answer was โnoโ ๐
This was supposed to be a regular T5, but the director said "no way". I ate shit in some gas. skill issue ๐ฅฒ
Also new penance, get downed by exploding flamer. 
What's the dump stat in DS4?
mobility
Mobility
worst time i ate shit this past week
Mobility and defences are the dumpstats for most, if not all weapons
Except force sword, which warp resist is the preferred dumpstat, generally
You can also dump cleave damage on ds4
I do cleave dmg for ds4. Cause I never do anything with a horde for it
real, because at most your charge/stealth are 22s cds
at best, 10s
and oh look that's permanent uptime on charge attack speed if you crit enough
At first I was like sweet move tech, and it kept getting worse.
same
Did cleave dampage ever get fixed?
hey can someone answer me this question? would the dummy stat on a maccabian be cleave or mobility?
could be either but i would rather mobility
any1 knows how to access the party finder
i can see why nobody is using it accordingly to the guys in the chat here, i cant even find it
theres no party finder
one of ur mods must be fukin wid it
Lmao
bet its psych ward
It should be below social
its not psych ward
ah yes... Flamers...
animation_events
Healthbars
creature_spawner
Spidey Sense
CustomFlames
psych_ward
kill_tracker
PerilGauge
true_level
scoreboard
custom_hud
ManyMoreTry
DisableScreenEffects
CleanForceBlocking
Mutetants
FullAuto
BetterMelk
NumericUI
KeepSwinging
What exactly does this mean?
+swap speed scaling with peril
You switchy weapons fasterer
Oh, so its just weapon swap. Okay, thanks!
This one me earlier. I took teammate down with me. lmao
Question, does soul stealer work with inferno staff ?
Like, does soul blaze kills count as "warp attack"
ye they do
is there a knife psyker build around?
Seeing less than T4 surge is such an odd sight.
Different marks for staves when
This is what I'm running for my gunker with a knife. Then running uncanny strike and precog on the mk vi
i want molten beam staff as mark of purgatus
thank you
can you show curios aswell, upgrades to pick?
That's the curios, if you're not comfortable with the stamina, throw a wound or another toughness on. I like revive speed and a bit of corruption resistance but you can change that out for where you think you're weakest at
thank you
I dump mobility on the combat blade with pysker but you could prtobably dump penetration if you're running uncanny on it
I'm not smart enough to actually test damage vs pen, but I always at least keep finesse and first target maxed
I barely test I just read what the percentage does to effect the stat and go โoh sick
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What are some good blessings for the illisi
uncanny slaughterer

Bloodthirsty + Blazing Spirit if you want to be funny
Whatโs the meta for purg staff now?
no warp rider ๐ญ
Flak crit chance, warp nexus + blaze away/penetrating flames @proper osprey
just melts everything
Good point, probably remove warp speed and either surety of arms/warp splitting for that
keep warp splitting its great
What does Empyric shock actually do? Also I heard it doesn't work with purg staff?
it like increases staff primary fire by 6 percent per stack
So like the fire speed? or damage?
damage
it's all warp damage taken by the target
Ah cool, thanks.
unchained build
oh, it's all warp damage, not just primary fire
it would be very good with purg lmb if it worked
I just swapped to a cleave damage dump ds4
You get a few % of sprint speed and dodge length and spend a few % of cleave dmg
Anyway to unpatch Darktide from mods? I can't talk to Hadron without crashing immediately since the update, even with all untogglable mods untoggelled
yes
just run the batch file again
the toggle_darktide_mods file?
Batch file acts like a toggle
yes
Ah cool thanks
It's called toggle for a reason
sounds like it's Barter with Hadron
is flurry still bugged?
yes
btw, am I the only one who dislikes PC on gunker?
idk, I just feel like soulblaze messes with me trying to figure out which enemy is DD-marked...
yeah i dont run it on gunker
RED WIND
It's an issue but pc is just so good
It doesn't? 
That's def a great reason not to take PC.
Though fire trauma DD does't really care because you'll hit it with trauma rmb or assail.
the reason i don't take it (PC) with my sg setup is that i am short on points and it serves little purpose outside of elite packs
if it is my sole source of soulblaze it does not do much
souldrinker is sooooo fucking good
Not sure if it still works, but there was a mod that could disable individual vfx
that's another reason why I don't take it outside of Blaze Trauma/Purga builds...
defensively?
i mean if i have shriek i obviously take it
same
but sg does not apply soulblaze
offensively
fire shriek into horde: get shit loads of crit: spam uncharged void balls into horde, all of which are now critting and burning
Alright so we got rid of warp flurry?
am i missing something, because it just seems like a situational 5% crit
the crit stacks?
5% per enemy killed
i thought that's what it was but when i was messing around with it in the psykhanium i only saw it retrigger after the last one's duration was up
so i just wrote it off
Wait.. what? Per enemy killed? It stacks?
And how does blaze away work on purg? Just curious @grim inlet or @feral verge what breakpoint does it help hit?
With the peril changes, creeping flames got an indirect nerf.
If SG worked on Surge, I'd definitely run it over shriek
My warpfire damage is pretty low post patch
Also Iโm guessing they didnโt fix surge on the trauma and surge staff
Has anyone tested it?
"fix" meaning making it apply to more than just the little bolts?
the breakpoint of killing everything
I run PC on my voidstrike sg dd build
Me like when i throw a ball into a gunner group and 6 of them explode and the other 8 die seconds later
Well yeah I guess thatโs true
2 of the secondary fire
in that case no
also why are your ears so big
Your ears are too big! Don't even fit in the profile picture
serval things
So flury on purg is not really working right? What's a good substitute? I thought of brittle just to help support the team damage
How is blaze away good though? most all damage of the staff is the burn stacks so can't see how that's great?
power affects soulblaze
holy shit, scab mauler saturday
Does soulblaze stacks snapshot power at the moment of application?
continue flamerizing then
I guess it's not terrible, but I feel like brittle would probably be better if your team is also doing damage
100% sure they're dynamic
yeah, no snapshot, you can swap to melee after ticks are applied to affect damage
oh shit fr.png
FR?
Power just seems like the best all rounder
Feel like at 40 power you get the damage from rending lol
Idk havenโt tested it
Wish soul drinker wasnโt on the right tree
Could someone provide me with the dump stat for each staff type?
Manstopper on the double barrel and Warp Splitting stacks, right?
Dump stat for heavy swords on psyker?
im thinking cleave targets because I could always run the 100% cleave based on peril talent which is what I plan to use with the heavy sword
Guys perks for ds4? Non crit build (agile thrust)
non crit is probably uncanny plus relentless
but frankly I think agile is super amazing
infinite dodging is crazy
perks not blessings*
oh my bad, I do maniacs and carapace but some do maniacs and unyielding
carapace for me because of crushers and maulers being carapace on head, maniacs for ragers headshot
I believe the pinned guide considers maniac unyielding to be bis though
I gotta say, being able to just decided 'nah I ain't letting the warp bother me today' and resetting it back to zero with practically no consequence
quite nice
"switch operative"
No it isn't just "zealot but worse" fuck off
Using empyric resolve? Quell. Not using it? Warp res.
I still a bit upset that Psykers did not get to use Plasmagun.... I know it's silly. But still...
Gotcha, so it will change by build... so probably grab 2 of each if I see them. One with a quell dump, and the second with a warp dump?
friends if im trying a default attack build for staff, 1. is this on the path to more succes, 2. where do i go on the bottom
How does it make sense to dump quell if you have empyric resolve? Either you have to quell or you don't, in the latter case WR doesn't do anything either
either way it doesn't make much difference, wouldn't get two weapons just for that
if anything having high WR from ER makes your quell stat more effective
That is what I have been doing. The glory of having perfect everything now haha
curios for ep/smite/surge build?
Using ER you donโt quell as much and you lean into being able to not generate as much warp
Thanks! I think I'll have just enough ordo to make it through all masteries. I'll be stunningly broke after today though.
For blast staff you get get another blast with warp at 80 vs 60
I had no idea it took so much ordos to go from 60-80
Like 100k
I could be wrong and would love to be corrected. But using ER you are leaning more into preventing warp as much as possible.
Not quelling as much doesn't mean more WR is better
I run. 1 health 2 toughness and ability regen.
Rest is really just up to you imo
What staff are you using? Also, you're missing out if you're not taking Perilous Combustion. I'd swap out warp expenditure for PC. You're going to be strapped for points, so if you can reach down to Epyric Resolve, find a way. It helps so much with your ability to spam LMB
If I want to keep one stamina curio would you go 1health + 1 tough or 2 tough?>
surge, it has higher crit
surge with surge staff
Either way works. As psyker you basically have unlimited toughness unless something goes wrong so the extra health is nice for stuff like corruption or a random barrel you didnโt see
I've never mucked with gun psyker, what are the go-to weapons for it?
I am only speaking for trauma staff as that is all I have tested. But warp res at 80 gives you another blast and you rely not on quietude to get toughness back. You rely on either killing or generating warp charges which also means more killing.
I do find the extra blast is worth it over quell speed in that case. I DONโt find it worth it if I am using Penetration because I am then leaning into quietude more and quell speed I like more
Columnus (iirc infantry mk5 now)
And recon lasgun are both top tier
another blast starting from 0?
The definitely try to get Empyric Resolve in the left tree. I go down the Warp Siphon tree for more -Peril generation on my left click build, but I'm not a shield user, so I'm not sure what your needs are.
Don't
If you're optimizing for twins take ogryn gunlugger or crackhead chainaxe zealot
Rip. Psyker is only class I have thatโs got anything maxed. Iโll have to run some zealot then
what is warp siphon tree
bliblings
Idk it's like asking 'how to best jump a jumprope while on my knees' idk just stand up first
Yes ds4 with carapace perk and shred uncanny.
thats what I run for sure. excellent all around weapon
uncanny rampage 
what do you use on scriers' void
I play psyker at twins ez.
Another blast in the high peril phase if I remember correctly. I can look through my comments as I did do this test a few days ago. I am not playing at the moment so canโt confirm if it was from 0 vs from ~60 onwards
I'm not saying psyker cant hold itself at twins i'm just saying other builds can solo twins hardmode without issue
it would be very surprising if more 80 WR gave you more blasts than 80 Quell speed when quelling for 1-2 tics from 100
im just fed up with carrying <100s with trash loadouts, is some1 here online to play rolling steel?
I can get back to you when I am on later to confirm
@split lance if you need help with twins I can come do it real fast.
Sounds good Ty
Can get a couple guys from here I'm sure.
Not atm. Tryna prepare cuz my lil bro wants that one zealot penance
If ur on later im down
Later I'll be sleeping. I'm on UK time.
you can still play twins?
It has a branching node that'll give -peril per stack. Plus with the added benefit of Ability Cooldown reduction if your playstyle requires constant cycling of your Ability
With 60 quell speed you quell 9.578 peril per tic, with 80 12.315
Aw shucks. Maybe tomorrow then.
Omg itโs you agent chaos
I love you
erm..kind of a dumb question here, but whats the difference between Voidstrike and Voidblast staves?
Voidblast formerly known as trauma. 
ahh capisce. thank you
one is a big aimed AoE boom
one is line removal
thats an old one
voidstrike strikes the void, voidblast blasts the void duh
railgun vs explosion bascially
Whatโs tree gonna look like for this tho
hows blaze away / pen flame on flame staff
Same as surge/electro tree for me.
blaze away is peak
At the start. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIwoaV-Dnc
Additional peril generation reduction and having soulstealer make you tankier and can spam surge (electrokinetic) more. As always, smash F to spam creeping flames and everything will die. Smite is there for super hairy situation but 90% of the map you will just spam your staff.
Patch 1.5.1
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agentchaos are u up for some rolling steels without voic
Oh bet I got that build copied already so should be Gucci
Nein I am watching stuff. 
I can do 1 rolling steels if you want.
I was one of the first viewers hehe
Actually let's do it. It'll be my 2nd time playing that map.
I hope someone know how to do the mini game I am not doing it. 
You'll have an idea of what do lol.
Rolling steel has to be my unluckiest map. Iโm constantly clipping through something and hanging off a ledge
That's the vibe of the place. 
nah it just fucking sucks
needs to be taken off rotation
It gives less XP ๐ก๐ก๐ก
Getting that map 4 times in a row...
its a super fast map
Blaze away all the way itโs broken
Regular T5 had 4 mutants just show up plus other specials all at once.
best purgatus staff ?
nexus + blaze away and flak + your choice
i'll try that thanks
Warp res 80 vs 60 is: 8 vs 7 blasts starting from 0 (all this is with quell can canceling). 3.5 vs 3 blasts starting from 60 peril. And same for warp charges 6. 5.5 blasts vs 5. SO Overall... not much difference I guess besides starting from 0
is damage still the dump stat for the voidblast? 
does it
never was
yes
If you donโt explode on Psyker ur just doing it wrong
flamer used to have damage as dump stat
pretty much
voidstrike can also dump blast radius
voidblast cannot
(thanks fatshark)

Trying to steal twins from me I see
this isn't even the worst rename
infantry autoguns renaming columnus to vraks and graia to columnus is definitely worse
That is clearly a tech heresy
i hate vraks so much that world deserves everyhing it got
what did vraks do
Pls complain on forums
bunch of heresy
unironically
the story of atoma is pretty much vraks only less intresting
will they fix it
no
Yes
Damn bruh some people are so bad at train.
yeah
train is bad
was close tho, 1sec
the mission is legit 1 minute too short
i have never done the fidgety tech thingy on the train
I can see how it's impossible to just play well and can't carry.
Little less than 2 tics (stressing very little less) for the 80 quell. 2 solid tics for the 60 quell. Iโd say 1.75-1.8 for 80 quell
You can't let the circle touch the sides.
wasd balancing
the new mini game takes too long
Yeah I had Ainz on the mini game while I booked


