psyker-class

[upbeat wedge]

h2 has a knockdown effect on crushers and maulers

[split lance]

not a blaze

force

[hardy flower]

I actually like the base sword

[upbeat wedge]

ds mk4 is cool

[hardy flower]

The mk2

[blissful solar]

ive been using deimos the whole time but im thinking illisi is pretty good, hard to really choose honestly

[hardy flower]

Base sword can slash and stab

Good all rounder

Also some of the skins seem to increase its damage arc

Like Mobian parade

Requires testing

[split lance]

are combat knives good?

[hardy flower]

Very but unless you’re a gunker the force has more applications

[split lance]

yea i run everything

[late sapphire]

yes but ds are better

[strong gulch]

Is see the server has chosen invulnerable bursters again.

[nocturne dust]

I didn't say without thrust? I bet you can do it without thrust with a bunch of buffs from talents tho, psyker has a large number they can stack

[raw token]

no i was just wondering if it was possible without thrust

[nocturne dust]

I think it's possible, just not consistent with the number of buffs you would need to stack

[analog agate]

DD stacks would be my guess in SG or something

[nocturne dust]

yeah, DD, SG with Precog, high peril warp rider... you could probably fit in Penetration of the Soul if you just skip out on defense, lol

[strong gulch]

I stole my sibling's sb stacks.

Wildfire trolling.

[nocturne dust]

imagine if soulblaze had separate stacks per player so you could just double the amount of stacks enemies were holding with 2 psykers

[strong gulch]

Actually could consistently hit the gobals limit.

LOL

gobals = global

[hushed egret]

anyone know if brain burst benefits from rending?

[plucky flax]

At least you didn't get you gene stolen by the vet

[analog agate]

BR bypasses all armor for flat rate of dmg

[hushed egret]

ah

[nocturne dust]

Hate it when vets steal my jeans

[hushed egret]

we almost had one more damage skill accessible to brain burst

[nocturne dust]

imagine having BB be good

[strong gulch]

[nocturne dust]

Damage is a dump stat

Why kill heretics when you can ask them politely to stop

[hushed egret]

wait we did get another

[analog agate]

I just wish they reintroduced Kinetic Barrage

[hushed egret]

+5% ranged damage node below the aura line

couldnt reach it before

[narrow herald]

what is the dump stat for trauma?

[nocturne dust]

You'll take your Empowered Psionics and like it

[analog agate]

Warp res for reg blaze build. Quell for ER build

[runic hornet]

How good is warpsplitting?

i've heard it does nutty things on voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

It does neat things with voidstrike, yes

[mossy oyster]

it increases the cleave of your melee and ranged and can even synergize and increase assail's cleave

unless I was just told lies

[runic hornet]

oh shit assail cleave

that seems hella spicy

[inner bolt]

am i crazy or does it seem like enfeeble is proccing from surge secondaries

or electromagnetic staff secondaries w/e

[broken carbon]

it’s the same electrocution debuff, so yes it will apply

it also will proc high voltage on shock maul

[inner bolt]

alright i thought so... I tried ctrl+f'ing enfeeble and surge and only found 2 results from a year ago so I was second guessing myself lol

referring to when the +125% damage buff from EP was applying to the staff

[broken carbon]

lol yeah

that was so long ago

but was fun

i never got to use it though

[inner bolt]

it was definitely way too much fun

[broken carbon]

(i just didn’t bother using it lol)

[inner bolt]

unfortunately it ruined the staff for me immediately after it got fixed lol

[broken carbon]

how i felt when the thrust bug on thunder hammers was fixed

[inner bolt]

but now that it has the surge blessing im gonna have a lot more fun with it again

always wanted the surge blessing on it

though i had no idea when it was added, either with the most recent patch or an older patch maybe lol

[broken carbon]

this patch it was added

[onyx sentinel]

are there any mods to filter weapon names in the crafting menu

[plucky flax]

It doesnt work on right click but it's good for left click spam

[inner bolt]

i had a feeling that was the case as of 5 seconds ago

please god tell me its a bug

why the fuck else would you ever use the blessing otherwise lmao

[raw token]

not as far as we know

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-some-deeply-tragic-news-for-you-bad-news-not-a-good-news-joe-lo-truglio-detective-charles-boyle-gif-13251965

[nocturne dust]

lmb spam is actually a very good build

[inner bolt]

it makes absolutely 0 logical sense to add it to the weapon only to disable the only reason you would ever use it to begin with

i guess

[nocturne dust]

Not that sane people use it

[inner bolt]

"guys we're gonna give this weapon the one blessing that probably everyone and their mother has been asking for since the dawn of time, but we're going to make it completely pointless to take 🙃 "

though i will say, lmbs do fuck shit up with it LMAO

[mellow dock]

so whats the blessings now on the void force staff still WN WF?

[raw token]

i still really like surge on the void staff with wn

[inner bolt]

now that i've learned i got giga baited, i think im just gonna go with void like i was originally planning

🙁

[nocturne dust]

void force

There's voidstrike and voidblast

[raw token]

new names are trash

[nocturne dust]

but for voidstrike, surge + nexus and SG is fun

[raw token]

trauma and void ftw

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/prince-of-egypt-sacrifices-must-be-made-pharaoh-seti-i-pharaoh-gif-16912373

[merry raft]

Hey anyone have a post update assail build I'm patrial to force staff but could be persuaded to drop it new ish to psyker but at 30

[raw token]

what is force staff

[merry raft]

Void blast force staff

[nocturne dust]

Traumatic

[raw token]

i use surge staff and duellin sword with focus on lots of crits if im gonna use assail

[upper galleon]

Voidstrike staff transfer peril surge for blessings

Go assail, scrier’s into EP

[nocturne dust]

Transfer peril, lol

[upper galleon]

Be sure to grab 100% cleave and true aim

[upper galleon]

I edge too much

Ive edged with venting so long

That if i try to use a build without shriek that isn’t transfer void or gunker, i will fucking die

Plus it helps you build up the scriers buff

[merry raft]

am i crazy or was it called truama force staff before the update?

[upper galleon]

True aim and crit aura help as does surge now giving crit chance

[merry raft]

also as far staffs go rn whats meta post update

[upper galleon]

You are crazy, like the chaos gods, the new names shall always be /j

[nocturne dust]

It was trauma, yes

[nocturne dust]

WHAT WAS WILL BE

[upper galleon]

Void is better cause of 100% cleave

[merry raft]

why change such a thing the brain cells they wasted on that could have been used to make a 99$ cosmatic

[upper galleon]

Purge has a brittlness blessing to let it deal fair damage to carapace

And has a new toughness regen option for soulblaze in general

[merry raft]

void what there are two void staves now right?

[nocturne dust]

Because we also have blessings with the name trauma and surge

[upper galleon]

Sorry

[merry raft]

void strike and void blast

[upper galleon]

Voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

No idea why purgatus got renamed tho, lol

[upper galleon]

Voidstrike likes 100% cleave based on peril

[nocturne dust]

fair

Lol

Funny joke

[upper galleon]

And with the new scrier’s node you dont blow up for 10 seconds after hitting 100%

This doesn’t stall the explosion either you can just do whatever during the buff then be fine afterwards

[nocturne dust]

As long as you stop before the buff ends, lol

[upper galleon]

But since i have a perfect 80% charge time void i think surge transfer is a perfect pair with scriers

[upper galleon]

Up until you finally hit 100% during scriers and 10 seconds after is a lot of time

[nocturne dust]

si

[nocturne dust]

Surge nexus is better imo

and really just for DPS in general

[upper galleon]

Now with assail you’ll hit cap quick but 10 seconds is enough to throw all your shards and ep shards

[upper galleon]

Ehh i got true aim and crit aura and surge gives crit chance now

[nocturne dust]

True aim got nerfed

[lethal lagoon]

Actually surge flurry has the highest actual DPS

[nocturne dust]

crit aura and surge crit is like 10% crit chance

[upper galleon]

With true aim im critting a lot

Still oneshotting crushers

Idk what to say

[lethal lagoon]

I mean like tested, on a boss target

[nocturne dust]

sure

[upper galleon]

Yea surge flurry

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

Isn't flurry currently bugged tho? Or is that only surge staff?

[plucky flax]

Surge flurry is based

[lethal lagoon]

I think it's safe to assume only Surge Staff is bugged

[upper galleon]

Idk transfer will let you play with scriers and let your buff stack up

[lethal lagoon]

Fatshark has their talents

[plucky flax]

I use it pre patch have not played void post patch yet

[upper galleon]

If i wasn’t abusing ep assail, id be going dd voidstrike with scriers

[nocturne dust]

Also, next you'll tell me to quell cancel, smh my head

[lethal lagoon]

And one of those talents is fucking up Surge or/and Smite every patch

[upper galleon]

Cause transfer peril void will let me max both dd and scriers buff

And ill just oneshot everything

[nocturne dust]

Anyway, I really don't think you need transfer peril, especially if you grab Empyric Resolve

[upper galleon]

I do

I cant be trusted

I put on flurry or nexus if im going vent

But on scriers no

[nocturne dust]

Bro, that's a stupid amount of investment into peril management

[upper galleon]

Im taking the weakspot damage one not the peril reduction

[lethal lagoon]

If you grab ER, that lack of toughness gen will send you to the ER

[nocturne dust]

Git gud, scrub

[lethal lagoon]

[upper galleon]

You call it stupid, i call it peak edging

Nothing like getting all your scriers stacks without using a fuckin gun

Lame guns

I play psyker to space wizard

[nocturne dust]

Why are gunkers suddenly catching strays

[wind spruce]

I've been running scriers void with empyric resolve and you definitely don't need transfer

[lethal lagoon]

Cause they can't aim

[wind spruce]

It lasts for so damn long

[lethal lagoon]

Unlike you

[wind spruce]

Plus you have solidity so you can quell down really easily

[upper galleon]

But it’s transfer voidstrike is the best way to use a staff and still use scriers and not flame staff scriers doesnt count

[lethal lagoon]

[upper galleon]

Im not grabbing it tho

Like

[nocturne dust]

[upper galleon]

Ill check my dd build again

[wind spruce]

Ahhh no empyric resolve

[lethal lagoon]

I hate when the buff bugs and I can't see how long SG will go for.

[upper galleon]

But if i grab damage based on peril and go down dd and go to the end of scriers for the 10 seconds no blow up

[lethal lagoon]

Wait why ER with SG Voidstrike?

[nocturne dust]

peril gen reduction

[wind spruce]

Fun

[lethal lagoon]

Fun in the sun?

[upper galleon]

I dont like ER

Seems like a bait

[nocturne dust]

combine it with warp siphon and you get stupid amounts of peril reduction

[upper galleon]

You want high peril anyways

[lethal lagoon]

Or like "fun" when your aunt says "let's do something fun"

[upper galleon]

Ewww

Warp reduction

Not edgepilled

[nocturne dust]

1. that's what SG is for
2. edging is the real trap

[lethal lagoon]

Push me to the edge

[upper galleon]

Transfer is best peril reduction cause it needs skill to aim

[lethal lagoon]

ER kinda makes me too lazy to edge

[upper galleon]

Nothing like spamming the peril screams by using transfer void at 100% (not buffed by scriers)

[hollow current]

it ain't edging if you can't go over the edge bro

[upper galleon]

It’s og denial

U just aren’t goonkyr pilled

[hollow current]

wtf i GOON all the time

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-fall-and-back-gif-25193110

[nocturne dust]

The real gooning is the peril reduction build, nothing like spamming balls down heretic throats and then basking in the afterglow by quelling

[upper galleon]

Nah big number is better

For more cleave

[hollow current]

I have MULTIPE gooning clips going back close to a year

[upper galleon]

More damage

[nocturne dust]

I have more balls

[merry raft]

what model duling sword are people running

[wind spruce]

Always mk IV

No other DS exists

[maiden hornet]

I am a bit confused about Souldrinker, where it says killing an enemy with soulblaze gives you 5% toughness and crits. Does that mean an enemy needs to be killed by the soulblaze? Or does it mean as long as you kill an enemy affected by soulblaze it works?

[wind spruce]

Affected by

[maiden hornet]

interesting

gonna test it out with my blazing spirit force sword

[late sapphire]

the surge crit balls cleave gooderer though

[wind spruce]

Souldrinker isn't enough to make blazing spirit force sword not just a meme

[lethal lagoon]

My point was that it was tested in an enviroment unaffected by the true aim nerf

[late sapphire]

they explode two maulers idk

[strong gulch]

Have you been able to test is it has the full In Fire Reborn kinda thing going? By that I mean sb source doesn't matter and teamates and kill the sb affected targets and you ge the benefit?

[lethal lagoon]

And if it does more dps to 1 target, it would do more to 5

[late sapphire]

Ok but have you considered that im the emperors own son of luck

[lethal lagoon]

That means you have bad luck

[late sapphire]

Meaning whenever i'm cornered by a crusher i crit and it instantly explodes

[wind spruce]

Not yet but we could test it easily

[lethal lagoon]

So there's no point in considering

[maiden hornet]

And here i was thinking it would be a cool combo

[wind spruce]

Or I'll test with bots in Psykhanium

[strong gulch]

I think people were talking about void still being able to multiple true aim stacks on a surge proc due to the 2 projectiles and the explosion.

[wind spruce]

@strong gulch it's probably your own kill though

[strong gulch]

Haven't tested that either.

[strong gulch]

Despite true aim nerf.

[plucky flax]

It is very cool

[wind spruce]

It can probably give two stacks (one per projectile)

[strong gulch]

Has anyone confirmed if the LMB nodes on the left side don't work with purg?

[runic hornet]

playing assail boltpistol hybrid psyker
150 ranged lessers, 50 ranged elites
next highest is 40 ranged lessers and 10 ranged elites
our team wipes because literally no one is shooting ranged other than meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[strong gulch]

Gotcha. That would make sense.

[plucky flax]

It's me every game

Range duty

[maiden hornet]

everyone zealot i come across is running a dueling sword now

[runic hornet]

literally you've got people just lost in the sauce meleeing 3 poxwalkers and there's an entire active shooter squad + 8 elite gunners

and then they're like

[plucky flax]

They stole our weapon we should take it back

[strong gulch]

Surge on shooter duty. A shocker really.

[runic hornet]

"wow i died because you weren't sticking with the team"

bro the team is ENTIRELY DEAD FROM SHOOTERS

[hollow current]

you can tell when you load into the lobby and look at everyone's class, loadout and abilities. "yeah this is gonna be a tough one"

[runic hornet]

shooters that I found an angle to start working on while all y'all got MULCHED

[maiden hornet]

Like it is a fine weapon for Psyker, but in zealot's hands I feel like it is a bit too powerful

[plucky flax]

I used it with piety last night it was op

[plucky flax]

Yeah when peeps don't empower or put t4 perks/blesssings

[strong gulch]

The zealots who already had the blessing and know how to use DS going ham.

[hollow current]

or its all revolers and flamers or boltguns.

[plucky flax]

Bolter is so back now actually on vet

[hollow current]

ye i haven't really played much but i heard it back to being good now.

[plucky flax]

They really improved the handling and the damage too

[runic hornet]

boltgun is back yeah

real weapon now

[plucky flax]

Volley fire bolt gun just need the instant reload node to be back too

[hollow current]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-triggered-hyper-what-cant-believe-gif-14513859

[plucky flax]

Only cool people know what volley fire and chastise the wicked are.

[hollow current]

It was a rad time that few got to enjoy. Like the plasteel bug when the plasteel grind was real.

[late sapphire]

When it's all stealth zealots

i walk in the shadows x3 and suddenly all of the crushers turn to look at me

[hollow current]

any time I see stealth and knife I groan.

[late sapphire]

More targets for me to ball

[late sapphire]

Some people can pull it off

[tiny cove]

Man this placement is kinda rough for this node

its so out of the way for the soulblaze nodes

[strong gulch]

yip. sad

[hollow current]

half eat shit, a quarter hold their own and while almost the rest are very good players individually, they're almost always terrible team players.

[tiny cove]

Gues I would probably do a tree like this if I wanted to snag it?

[plucky flax]

Zealot make me play different sorry

Ban me from playing knife zealot

[strong gulch]

same. but i'm bad

[plucky flax]

You are good boo

[tiny cove]

does warp rider effect soulblaze damage?

[strong gulch]

this for purg?

[tiny cove]

Yeah

Easy swap on the abiltity if I want to go push blaze instead

But bubble has felt very good recently

[copper torrent]

Are there any advantages to boltpistol over revolver? I'd be interested in trying this.

[strong gulch]

I'd keep warp rider.

I take ep bb on my purg setup. I left the way of warp charges on purg long ago.

[wind spruce]

Swap out essence harvest. You'll get a lot more than 6% toughness per second from quietude

Or you can pick up something else

[strong gulch]

Could do this for purg wc

oh. I did shriek.

can be swapped over to bubble if you want

could also drop soul stealer for the 6 wc node

[nocturne dust]

bubble is very cool, I approve

[nocturne dust]

Just use dueling sword instead of knife

Then you can't be a dirty knife zealot

[plucky flax]

Maybe with mk5 ds for same speed as knife

[strong gulch]

DS5 zealot video?? 👀

[plucky flax]

I think realistically ds4. Its just op. They need to make ds5 overhead deal more damage too

I am waiting for recon las to be on brunt shop for zealot tho

Using mk2 laspistol atm but recon las would be better

[nocturne dust]

y wait for brunt?

[plucky flax]

It's not there

No option to buy it

[nocturne dust]

huh

[strong gulch]

You don't have this in the shop?

[nocturne dust]

Yeah I just checked and I see it in the psyker shop at least

[summer prairie]

that's not the zealot shop is it

[strong gulch]

checking now. loading..

huh wtf

[nocturne dust]

Huh, I don't see it in Zealot either

lol wtf

[mystic pike]

would reccomend the purg staff

[nocturne dust]

Law of equivalent exchange, Zealot got DS but lost recon lasgun, lol

[plucky flax]

They never had recon las

Fs said it'd come to zealot

But maybe next week

[nocturne dust]

They never had it? I've never even checked, lol. I only use recon on vet

[plucky flax]

A few zealot got it so far from melk

I need to check my melk shop today actually maybe recon las is there

[dense ridge]

THEY KEPT SOME OF THE RNG

They found a way

[plucky flax]

rng in 40k is lore friendly

@strong gulch a bit proud of this quick smite swap to push burster
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx85zudkoy-8lbfTkrp1HMfWc8OmWPZU0_

[broken carbon]

it’s an old bug, it happened when psyker got recon las back before talent trees

it’ll be fixed eventually

[restive ice]

”never” sticker

[strong gulch]

wtf. ew sorry to the zealots

[strong gulch]

Hell yeah. Nice push.

[broken carbon]

yeah it was annoying when it happened with psyker lmfao

recon las is kinda bad on zealot anyway

[strong gulch]

Ha I never noticed.

Too busy buying trauma bases.

With this new patch, my other psykers make even less sense.

[mystic pike]

FFS my dumbass is doing my damnest to do ad control on the rolling steel mission while my 3 other useless karking teammates can't even kill the boss of that level

[strong gulch]

pug train is rough times

[dense ridge]

My issue is people not understanding what "timed mission" means.

Mfs just stop to hold the horde at a random point nowhere near any of the objectives, like guys- GO!!

[strong gulch]

Pile up the batteries and defend them

[mystic pike]

shouldn't be that fucking rough y'all helped me put this fucking crowd control build together

[dense ridge]

It's so simple too. The entire mission is an endless horde event, you just treat it like any other holdout or finale and you'll be in the right mindset, if you just hustle and don't get downed somewhere stupid, it's a quick, easy, fun as hell mission.

People just need to move their asses.

[plucky flax]

I have played it once and won once.

I am retired from riding train now.

[mystic pike]

second defuse area i'm generally the guy whos holding the horde at the door with my purg staff

[dense ridge]

Whenever it goes to shit it's always at the batteries for me

People are just terrified of backtracking, for some reason.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, batteries are generally the area where problems become obvious

in my experience

[dense ridge]

In like a month it won't be as much of an issue because enough time will have passed that everyone will have hopefully gotten the memo.

[fresh reef]

Is Fire Sword and Fireball staff a based weapon combo?

[nocturne dust]

or people will just be leaving as soon as they see it's a train mission

[nocturne dust]

Fireballs? What in Sienna?

[dense ridge]

I grew up doing time trials in horror games and shit, so this hustle gameplay style is nothing new to me, so I might not be seeing it from other people's perspectives, but idk- It's really not that hard, you just need to not waste time.

[fresh reef]

Void with Blazing Spirit lul

[restive ice]

that’s so based i must try this

[dense ridge]

I was really expecting them to make it a special assignment, like the Orthus Offensive stuff, it being in the Quickplay rotation is... annoying, honestly. My only complaint about the mission is it keeps jumpscaring me in QP lol

[nocturne dust]

It's not hard but it's the only mission I actually dislike and don't want to play. I've always hated timers.

[fresh reef]

Use Surge/Blazing for the occasional Crusher deletion

Cuz you know your teammates won't be dealing with armor :')

[dense ridge]

I love time trials, but I don't necessarily want to do the train mission 6 times in a row because quickplay has deemed that my fate today

[astral cape]

Does bonus cleave do anything for voidstrike staff? Idk. I have barely used it and my 2 friends that I usually play with 1 of them says the cleave is effectively infinite anyways and the other says it isn't 🤷

[nocturne dust]

Warp splitting does buff voidstrike

Cleave is not infinite, very noticeable with voidstrike

[fresh reef]

The new cleave based on peril talent buffs all cleave for everything psyker has that can cleave

[strong gulch]

I've been chosen.

[nocturne dust]

wouldn't mobility be a better dump?

[broken carbon]

collateral only affects stagger, so no

[nocturne dust]

huh, I thought it did more than that

[broken carbon]

you’d think it would

but it does not

[strong gulch]

Depends. The gun connoisseurs say collateral is the dump because of flinching or something similar.

[plucky flax]

It doesn't matter you don't need stability too. Only need damage and ammo on recon las.

[nocturne dust]

dump everything

0/0/0/0/0

[strong gulch]

dump the whole gun right onto the ground and don't perceive it.

It's what brunt is doing after all.

[primal radish]

how big of a difference is stability on a laspistol from 60 to 80?

[mystic pike]

jesus christ cant believe i had to organise randoms telling them what to do and what not

[strong gulch]

idk from experience, but the sway seems to be the biggest thing

[latent hill]

Huh…

So apparently the vraks was swapped with the columnus

[mystic pike]

yeah

[latent hill]

Well, no matter

A name change isn’t gonna make too much of a difference.

Say what’s the fire rate on the agripina?

[mystic pike]

good or bad?

[strong gulch]

It's fine.

[heady nexus]

Good balance overall

[strong gulch]

76 or higher burn gets you max sb stacks and cloud radius you want 80.

Depending on what you're doing, high warp resist can be a detriment.

[mystic pike]

this may sound silly but i'm starting to wanna change out warp nexus

[strong gulch]

that does sound silly, but do as you please 👍

[latent hill]

Hmm

[hidden rune]

what are the ideal rolls for purge staff?

[strong gulch]

dump warp resist

[hidden rune]

blessings/perks?

[strong gulch]

flak + unyielding/maniac and blaze away + nexus

[hidden rune]

sweet ty, been trying to play psyker more

[strong gulch]

np

[summer prairie]

or flak+elite

[strong gulch]

That works too.

second perk is personal

NAME CHANGE GOT ME AGAIN. This isn't a trauma. 😭

It's ok. I got a new base from brunt (who kept dumping charge rate blast radius b/c of course)

[mystic pike]

does a sniper shot bypass the deflector blessing?

[fervent yoke]

Go find out 👍

[strong gulch]

Yes. If players are standing line with one another, both will eat the shot.

[dusk void]

First time playing since the update and I didn’t even need to do additional grinding to get this staff ready

[latent hill]

What should I discard exactly for the mk 4 dueling sword?

Dump stat wise

[strong gulch]

mobility

[latent hill]

Mobility? Why?

[radiant frigate]

mobile enough as it is

make bigger damage numbers instead

[strong gulch]

The other stats provide more and at 60 mobility you move and dodge great still

[latent hill]

I have all eighty except mobility which is 61.

What about perks?

Besides flak…

And I guess blessings

[strong gulch]

The biggest thing you gain with higher mobility is dodge distance. Dependening on the level, that can yeet you off a ledge lol

I do maniac and unyielding.

[latent hill]

And blessings?

[strong gulch]

Uncanny.

The second one is up in the air right now.

[latent hill]

I had been running shred for quite a bit…

On my old sword

[primal plume]

Designed with practicallty

no goggles

[wind spruce]

Carapace is garbage on trauma, take crit chance

[strong gulch]

relentless strike is what I'm trying out

[restive ice]

just blink

[upper sun]

burn at 75 not good

you need burn at 76 and 80 cloud and quell at lease 70%

warp res and damage dont matter

[mystic pike]

its fine the way it is

it gets the job done

[strong gulch]

With the new crafting system, it's not good.

However, it does indeed get the gob done.

[mystic pike]

also side note sniper shots do bypass deflector and they bypass kinetic deflection

[primal plume]

did this get buffed?

[strong gulch]

wtf yes it did

[mystic pike]

alright you stat nerds is this better?

[radiant frigate]

it's peak

[worthy stratus]

shield wall vs shield bubble?

curious what other psykers prefer

[radiant frigate]

personally neither

[worthy stratus]

I find the bubble a bit boring but the shield wall a bit worse

[radiant frigate]

bubble makes the penance easier

wall stops specials (very good)

[mystic pike]

oi @upper sun you damn nerd is this better

[tame venture]

bubble helps enforce coherency

[worthy stratus]

I know it's a skill issue but I find it hard to place the wall well in a lot of areas

[radiant frigate]

MAINTAIN SQUAD COHESION 😤

[worthy stratus]

I can't tell how much of that is me needing more practice and how much is just map geometry making it harder to use

[tame venture]

https://tenor.com/view/hecu-run-running-half-life-half-gif-14671886281472540463

[upper sun]

its fucking peak

[tame venture]

put the thing where enemies walk, idk

[worthy stratus]

that's generally what I do

don't got time to perfectly place it

just throw it out at a doorway and get back to killing heretics

[tame venture]

or even in the middle of a walkway

[mystic pike]

thank you damn Shallot knock off

[strong gulch]

Between shield and shriek (with creeping flames) it's shriek.

Walls take my map and enemy behavior knowledge to use well. Double wall is great at beefing up EP BB.

[worthy stratus]

Yeah that's the only build I run it on

double wall with plenty of BB

[strong gulch]

Bubble is a comfort pick, but it can cause issues with visibility and positioning.

[tame venture]

another psyker deciding that screaming is more useful than helping people smh tbh fr

[worthy stratus]

Bubble is definitely good free value but holy crap is it boring in comparison to other abilities

[strong gulch]

BUT I love a bubble on bonbon because it's funny. Put cups over bugs.

[mystic pike]

i love my bubble shield

[tame venture]

bubble should slow down enemies that are in it

[strong gulch]

If scattered shooter are a problem, screaming at them kills them.

[tame venture]

then you could use it to fuck with bosses

[worthy stratus]

I wish bubble had some kind of interaction tied to it

[strong gulch]

You can wait for mutants in them and make them miss you so they just stop. Like they hit an invisible wall.

[worthy stratus]

if it had a trait where you could blow it up for some additional effect

that'd be sick

it's boring just to fart it out and... stand there 😐

[radiant frigate]

it will be a valuable lesson to people and then they can help themselves

[strong gulch]

Or when it goes through grated flooring

[radiant frigate]

really we're doing them a favor by screeching instead of shielding

[worthy stratus]

bubble can drop through floors?

[strong gulch]

like trauma

if it's an opening

[worthy stratus]

damn that is messed up

actual F-tier ability

[primal plume]

Why is my lighting fucked up

[worthy stratus]

you up in that stank cloud

never seen that before

[strong gulch]

I haven't used it in awhile, maybe that was patched out, but trauma rmb still has the same issue.

[strong gulch]

uhhh no fecking clue

[primal plume]

Just this mission i think

hub is fine

[strong gulch]

Hope the other missions are fine

[fresh reef]

is there a difference between burning spirit on staves and burning spirit on melees?

[strong gulch]

they have different caps

[fresh reef]

what's the cap for melee?

[strong gulch]

I don't remember. It was changed a patch or two ago.

It at the very least used to be 12

with t4

Actually, idk what the current staff blazing spirit is either.

I have updated my debuff mod yet.

[radiant frigate]

i wish the melee version did not have a cap

but even uncapped i think it would still suck

[primal radish]

warp splitting is so cracked thanks fatshark

[stoic tendon]

wym?

[primal radish]

+100% cleave on every weapon, melee, ranged, assail

at high peril

[pearl lion]

What are people running on fire staff?

My current as I level it

Was tossing up between warp flurry and penetrating flame

[upper sun]

im running blaze away nexus

[sturdy tendon]

Ah, I should see how's my Burger staff is, was too busy mucking around with Veteran and Zealot

Hope I can get tier 3 Blaze Away on it

[latent hill]

Is damage necessary on flame?

I would assume not given the soul blaze

[pearl lion]

Nah damage is dump

[sturdy tendon]

Burn and Cloud radius are kings

[summer prairie]

it's better than WR

[upper sun]

no

the damage stat doesnt effect the soulblaze stacks being applied only burn does

i think it only effects the lmb damage for the quick love tap stagger

and difference between 60-80% damage is like 40? on a rmb that kinda hard to spam without some mechanical skill

[summer prairie]

it affects the on-hit damage of your secondary too and that adds up if you actually test it

[upper sun]

yeah? by how much

[summer prairie]

It's been a while since i tested it and I don't remember which damage values I was comparing, but it was maybe like 5% dps difference

[upper sun]

everything has some effect but the idea behind a dump stat is where the scaling is least effective on dps

[summer prairie]

but WR does nothing

[upper sun]

ye exactly

warp resist does nothing for rmb attacks on staves

damage doesnt do as much for purge

ammo on ciag is like 10 bullets on 60-80

[radiant frigate]

siblings... was it a good idea for us to share our dueling swords with the fanatics?

[upper sun]

no

they're chipped

[radiant frigate]

yes i am thinking the same

[upper sun]

they've been lmb spamming crushers

[radiant frigate]

worse yet... it's working

[upper sun]

ikr

uncanny relentless is a sight to behold

[radiant frigate]

this fucking thing is so dumb

i stab bonbon a few times and it just explodes

i spam light at the horde and it evaporates with a bazillion crit chance

i eat an overhead and go "huh, well that was weird" and then keep going like nothing happened

what even is any of this

[upper sun]

i know zealot is getting disgusting

im missing every weakspot hit and still shredding bosses

puncture gives me full scourge stacks on weapons with zero crit

[potent echo]

how does relentless work

if you miss it resets?

[radiant frigate]

on the 2nd hit on the same target it starts stacking

if you hit another target it drops

[potent echo]

what if you cleave something else

[upper sun]

this is actually gross damage

[potent echo]

ah mainly for bosses then

[upper sun]

idk how much of it was vet tag

but its gross

[radiant frigate]

seemingly this also resets it

[wind spruce]

Well that's twice now I've exploded while using assail at the end of scriers gaze despite having warp unbounded

[potent echo]

sus

i had no issues with it so far

you can milk an extra cast after it expires

but for me you would have need to already charge it >50% as the buff expires

but also after all the gazing im back to creeping

[upper sun]

dont milk it too much yeah

just a shard or two

[potent echo]

gazing just doesnt help if im bad

[wind spruce]

I don't mean at the end of the after effect

I mean right as I hit 100% peril

It's a bug

[upper sun]

u sure u had the talent

i never had issues

[potent echo]

[wind spruce]

Yes

[radiant frigate]

i just know that if i try to play psyker like that i'm going to get pasted

[upper sun]

posbursters are the reason i started playing zealot

[potent echo]

no immediately hugging chaos spawns smhmh

[upper sun]

can people fucking push them

(not into me)

[radiant frigate]

real

[wind spruce]

It must just be some bad luck with the server not registering the scriers afterburn before it registers the assail input at max peril

It's only happened twice in hundreds of scriers over the last few days

[upper sun]

i feel like i should say i only tried in meatgrinder

[summer prairie]

by the way you still have 1.5s of infinite casting after the icon expires

[upper sun]

there are still issues with the lag compensation

like

if you press ult when its on cooldown at like .5s

itll go off once its off cooldown and you're not pressing

im in sheer awe of fatshark how the hell can they transform such garbage code into something so fucking fun and gripping

[wind spruce]

Oh shit, I forgot about that

I should really push the end of the buff more

[ancient plover]

what stats should I generally have on my curios?

Is it similiar to other classes? Toughness regen speed stamina regen and resistance?

[stuck sinew]

Psyker doesn't really need stamina regen

[radiant frigate]

currently i am running 2x gunner 2x sniper 2x corruption 3x toughness (on 1toughness1health1x3stam)

makes it so single burster or single snipe does not go beyond half health

with some wiggle room to spare

rather than the 200hp single sniper resist setup

where you live at like 1hp if you get nicked by a sniper when wounded

[upper sun]

i simply die if i get sniped

[forest path]

What blessing is the best for VoidStrike staff right now?

[radiant frigate]

surge nexus most like

[upper sun]

surge nexus

[summer prairie]

probably surge flurry if you run SG

[forest path]

so the same as always

[upper sun]

ye

[forest path]

WTF is SG

[summer prairie]

scryer's gaze

[upper sun]

criers gaze

[radiant frigate]

scrier's gaze

[forest path]

oh

im \only use on gun build

[summer prairie]

why is it spelled scrier's gaze anyway

when it's scryer

[radiant frigate]

scry some more

[upper sun]

some swedish person prolly read the name in a codex and thought it was cool

thats how we got the names for most talents tbh

[summer prairie]

but in English and in Warhammer it's spelled a scryer

[upper sun]

swedish

person

[summer prairie]

it's been two years

[forest path]

so What about blessing for the least of staff right now?

[radiant frigate]

the what

[indigo creek]

The force sword is so damn good, the one with the powersword like special attack

[upper sun]

nexus+blaze away or nexus+surge or nexus+flurry or nexus+blazing spirit

[forest path]

inferno staff?

[upper sun]

ye

first one lmao

[forest path]

i see thr new bless that apply Brittleness is that good ?

[upper sun]

not as good as blaze away

man surge needs some actual blessings

4 dont work 2 are good 1 is shit and 1 is good in theory but doesnt work correctly

my idea instead of surge we make it magnetic on everything except bosses

it pulls the secondary and primary targets together

dealing damage to the target with less mass equal to a percentage of the mass of the greater enemy

ie splattering a gunner into a crusher

[forest path]

what about perk on inferno staff im using Flak damage and cri chanece is it good ?

[upper sun]

yeah

flak is a must on trauma surge and purge

for a second perk on purge either crit unyielding or maniac

i like crit most

[forest path]

can i see your surge staff if u dont mind?

[forest path]

me too

[upper sun]

i dont have the game running

but flak elite flurry+nexus

64 warp res everything else 80 except quell speed at like 74

[forest path]

ty bro

[strong gulch]

Is flurry fixed yet?

[upper sun]

i think so

i havent had issues with it as of yesterday

[forest path]

what happen?

[strong gulch]

This was on launch of the new update. #psyker-class message

[limber silo]

Made a funny primary fire psyker build

[strong gulch]

If it's fixed tho I'm going to have to toy around to see if I like surge lmb spam or flurry more.

[limber silo]

didn't use any keystones and the damage is hilarious

[strong gulch]

this is the way

[limber silo]

gonna go try in a real game

running with IV DS

Shred and Rampage and a Surge staff with Surge and WN

[strong gulch]

This was funny lmb spam. IDK where no keystone one is. I forgot warp splitting tho.

[azure karma]

Someone send purgatus build, I feel like my new build is weaker than my pre-uofate build

[strong gulch]

I haven't run WC purg in a long time, but you could do this. You could swap soulstealer (top left) for the 6th warp charge.

IDK if you run KD tho

I prefer EP BB with purg now.

[azure karma]

I was grying with SG but I didn't notice any increase damage really

Why you not running wildfire

[strong gulch]

Because I felt guilty for stealing all of my sibling's SB stacks from a game earlier.

[ancient plover]

as a noob I didn't understand any of those words

KD? EP? BB?

WC?

[azure karma]

I'm one point off getting KD and anything I sacrifice would be damage, feels bad

Purg is blaze away, nexus now right

[sturdy tendon]

EP is empowered psionics

BB is brain burst

WC warp charges

[strong gulch]

You're valid.

EP = Empowered Pscionics
BB = Brain Burst aka Brain Rupture
KD = Kinetic Deflection
WC = Warp Charge (formerly was interchangeable with WS but we have Wap Splitting now)
Purg = Inferno staff (formerly purgatus)

[limber silo]

As far as my LMB build goes, very funny

[azure karma]

Purg blaze away?

[limber silo]

nope

Surge Surge

[azure karma]

Nerf incoming

[strong gulch]

Yes.

Also yeah, sould drinker being so far away is annoying.

[sturdy tendon]

Soul Drinker being right side while all other soul blaze talents being left side is mind boggling

[limber silo]

Not for Double Surge

It is incredibly funny

[azure karma]

Send the surge build

[limber silo]

aight

how do you guys get your screenshots of the tree?

[strong gulch]

EP BB tree with purg

[strong gulch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

Pft. I deleted my LMB build. Why brains?? 🙃

[azure karma]

I think I like that more, infinite fast BBs as long as it'd specialists basically

[limber silo]

How do I get the actual image

[azure karma]

Where's that surge surge build tho

[limber silo]

That's what I'm trying to get the image for

[strong gulch]

I'm on PC so I use the WIN + shift + S shortcut for the screenshot and cropping tool.

[azure karma]

I also do that

[strong gulch]

You could also save the build and post a link.

idk if you need an account

[azure karma]

I thought surge staff was bugged

[strong gulch]

The flurry + surge staff problem might have been fixed today.

haven't tested

[limber silo]

What issue?

[summer prairie]

pretty sure it wasn't

[strong gulch]

On patch release this was the issue.
#psyker-class message

Some people are claiming not have issues with the interaction anymore.

[strong gulch]

That's pretty close to what I was doing. A little different.

[limber silo]

Is Surge supposed to work on RMB for trauma and surge?

[strong gulch]

no

[limber silo]

But it does?

[strong gulch]

no

[limber silo]

So what is the deal?

Oh wait

It making it slower instead of faster??? smh

[summer prairie]

no

[limber silo]

What differences do you have?

[strong gulch]

It's in the video.
Flurry was/is making surge RMB slower. Blue fast stim + flurry was/is even worse.

[strong gulch]

I deleted it so I do remember exactly. 😭

I always take PC tho.

[limber silo]

Not that much damage really PC is not worth it imo

[strong gulch]

Do you mean in general or this specific style or play?

[limber silo]

In general

PC only really does worthwhile damage if you can stack the fire high enough

[strong gulch]

That is a take.

[limber silo]

It funny on Uncanny builds

[stable hare]

Eyo brothers and sisters. Whats the dump stat for the electrokinetic staff?

warp resistance or quell speed?

[strong gulch]

PC has historically been one of our stronger talents. It scales with special and elite density and has no SB cap.

warp resist

[stable hare]

ty

[strong gulch]

If you on a low enemy density mission or others are killing the elites and specials, then sure.

[stable hare]

wait, does surge work on the electro staff?

[limber silo]

I think that's kinda silly if you think about it more. If you kill 4 or 5 elites/specialists, then sure, trhhe damage is plentiful, but on what? The trash that would have already died?

If damage does not contribute to TTK, then it is meaningless damage

[strong gulch]

only on lmb

[stable hare]

ah, so warp nexus and flurry are still best in slot?

and flak+elite?

[limber silo]

I think that Perilous Combustion is very overrated considering what it does

[slate oasis]

am I missing something or is this ability not very good?

[limber silo]

If you kill a significant amount of elites and specialists in a short amount of time, then the burn is high. The issue is that everything that needed to die is already dead? Are you taking PC to kill trash mobs?

[ancient plover]

is electro staff right click spam viable?

[strong gulch]

Elites and specials often show up in packs with a horde. You kill elites that softens or kills everything around it. Plus you can creeping flames on top of that and keep the stacks rolling. Plus its interaction with other talents.

PC, creeping flames, and wildfire on a surge staff build can outpace a purg user in sb damage.

[thin knoll]

Anybody got a good rending trauma build on the new tree?

[strong gulch]

Flurry might still be bugged. Nexus still bis. Flak + personal choice. Surge has break points all over the place.

[ancient plover]

So for the blaze staff you want surge and the strength per ammo used?

[limber silo]

Or you could not use PC or Wildfire, and have Creeping Flames do the same thing

It not like hordes are a scary thing

Kill the Elites and Specials normally. Creeping Flammes takes care of the rest with a single F key

[strong gulch]

Ok we are not going to get anywhere. So we should drop this.

[limber silo]

You are spending 2 whole talent points for SB damage that doesn't even kill a single poxwalker

[strong gulch]

Do yo mean the fire staff or do you mean fire trauma?

[ancient plover]

theres a difference?

Did they rename the Purgatos staff etc?

since its called Inferno Force for me now

omg I forgot

they added MK in the menu now

[strong gulch]

Again we are not going to be production in this conversation.

[strong gulch]

Yeah. The name changes are silly.

[ancient plover]

or am I being dumb right now, Whats the differnce between Fire and Fire Trauma?

[nocturne dust]

Bold words for someone not in voidblasting distance

[limber silo]

Your damage numbers are high, but damage means nothing if you aren't killing anything. I don't understand how people still think Perilous Combustion is good. The only way it is is with a Uncanny weapon so you can chew through a bunch of armored elites with your weapons that ALREADY kill armored elites well

[strong gulch]

Purg staff vs a blazing spirit trauma staff

old names

[ancient plover]

whats the new name?

for the blazing spirit staff

[nocturne dust]

voidblast

[ancient plover]

oh voidblast was the aoe on the ground one?

[strong gulch]

Purg is inferno
trauma is voidblast

[strong gulch]

yes

[nocturne dust]

new staves when

[ancient plover]

I see so what was the staff you guys were arguing about that deals so high numbers? Voidblast or Purg?

[strong gulch]

Voidstrike is still voidstrike tho

[latent mauve]

Awaiting the mod that fixes that

[strong gulch]

Neither. It is a talent called Perilous combustion.

[strong gulch]

Finally using the custom name mod

[ancient plover]

I wanted to find a good aoe clear build that kinda supports the team with the chain stun and shield is that stuff still viable? I remember playing it when you had the bug that made smite free

[limber silo]

Just run any staff and shield

all of them have decent cc

the wrost pick is Surge if you are looking for "crowd" control imo

Trauma, VB, and Purge can all perma stun most enemies

[nocturne dust]

Psyker is a DPS class but you can go 'support' of a kind

[limber silo]

Surge can do twoish at a time

[ancient plover]

Surge is the Electro staff now?

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but surge instantly stuns almost anything

[limber silo]

The best way to support your team is by killing enemies

[nocturne dust]

Si

[strong gulch]

If you want max CC with fire while doing lots of damage, trauma is still the way.

blazing spirit + nexus and flak + crit chance

[ancient plover]

I currently have a hand injury so I am looking for something that requires minimal aim

[nocturne dust]

Purgatus exists

[limber silo]

Well congrats, you are playing psyker

[ancient plover]

would normally run lazgun with my veteran but psyker has those staffs that require less aim

[limber silo]

nearly nothing with us requires good aim at all

[nocturne dust]

I mean if you want to play gunker or lmb spam

[strong gulch]

Purg with blaze away is strong. The lmb has a lot of CC, but not as much as trauma rmb.

[limber silo]

Yeah, but gunker and lmb are a different playstyle

if you want a traditional psyker build, run a staff and any melee you like

[vernal agate]

Anyone have a good build for purg/blaze away/creeping flames? What with the new changes to the talent tree?

[limber silo]

usually one that covers your staff weaknesses

[ancient plover]

lmb style is what I tried just now buts its kinda exhausting to play without a mod that maybe doesnt need me to click like 500x /m

[vernal agate]

And is the BIS for purg now blaze away+warp nexus?

[limber silo]

Well use RMB

[ancient plover]

then Surge does nothing no? the new blessing

[limber silo]

that might not help tbh depending on the hand injury

[ancient plover]

well 5% more crit

[limber silo]

Surge blessing really helps with LMB and RMB for Voidstrike only

[nocturne dust]

Use a mod then, FullAuto exists

[ancient plover]

What would a tree look like?

I have that but it doesnt seem to work for staves

atleast not for me

[strong gulch]

yes

[limber silo]

Otherwise it doesn't do anything for Blast or Electro

I hate these new names

I miss trauma and purge and surge

[ancient plover]

same confuses the hell out of me

[limber silo]

Yeah, with a charge up, Surge LMB crushes dps wise

[nocturne dust]

Purge build

[strong gulch]

Yeah the names are confusing the heck out of me. I tried to build a trauma twice only to realize that it was voidstrike.

[limber silo]

Just RMB once for the 30% then spam on monstrosities

[nocturne dust]

Easy solution, just don't read and look at the pretty pictures like the Ogryns do

[ancient plover]

dump stat for purg is damage?

since burn is not like bleed?

doesnt scale off the damage?

[limber silo]

Also the suppression on LMB is kinda crazy

[strong gulch]

I put purg on my EP BB build.

[nocturne dust]

damage yeh

[strong gulch]

That's what I usually do. 🥲

[nocturne dust]

although I think the purge staff I use dumps warp res

[strong gulch]

Depending on your play or build, dump warp resist.

[nocturne dust]

because it's actually hard to build enough peril to vent with ER

[ancient plover]

so you actually use brain burst?

[nocturne dust]

Most things are dead with the build anyway before that

[plucky flax]

Don't take er on burga

[nocturne dust]

It's actually very useful

[strong gulch]

If you are trying to shriek often or what not, high warp resist on purg when it already generates low peril can be pain.

[nocturne dust]

I didn't make that build, I nicked it from Py

[plucky flax]

I don't take er and my staff has only 32% warp resistance

[ancient plover]

2%

[strong gulch]

I take ER on surge staff.

[plucky flax]

Always high peril

[ancient plover]

so this would be the staff?

[upper sun]

purge only has scalling on lmb

warp resist is meaningless

[nocturne dust]

Not everyone is an edgelord

[limber silo]

Edging is very important to psykers

Gooning is for the zealots

[nocturne dust]

False

[ancient plover]

so Damage is not the dump stat I am getting different answers here

[nocturne dust]

Damage or warp res

you can dump what you prefer

[upper sun]

damage is the dump stat

warp resist and damage are both equally meaningless on purge

if you secretly empowered @plucky flax s staff from 37 warp resist to 60 i guarentee he would barely notice

[spice hare]

Hi i need help , i can't figure out what is the best perk & blessing for a purgatus staff 🥲

[strong gulch]

If you peril edge and play with high peril (hello nexus, warp rider, and creeping flames) then high peril resist is counter productive.

[nocturne dust]

[limber silo]

5% crit
Flak
Nexus
Blaze Away

Have fun

[upper sun]

flak AND crit or unyielding perks and for blessings nexus+blaze away

[plucky flax]

I would

[ancient plover]

what would be the curious for purg build?

[upper sun]

i do not beleaf u

[spice hare]

Thank you 😄

[strong gulch]

flak + your choice and nexus + blaze away

[spice hare]

Thank you aswell !

[spice hare]

Okay i see this might be flexible thank you 😄

[nocturne dust]

Purge doesn't need specific curios? ER wants HP curios

[upper sun]

flak is a must for surge/truama/purge staves because their secondary attacks target center mass which is flak for most enemies

[spice hare]

Ohhhh i see i didn't know " played veteran most of the time "

[upper sun]

like both gunners are center mass flak

[ancient plover]

I really need a pin with all those shortcut names

I keep forgetting

[plucky flax]

Run unarmoured infested to melt chaffs

Veri based

[spice hare]

Okay i forgot the armor part being different

[upper sun]

soulblaze damage over time functions like bleed

[nocturne dust]

Run crit damage

[strong gulch]

maulers scab rager and even bruisers

[spice hare]

Ok the same mech then ok

[plucky flax]

Burga does big crit tbf. It'd be strong

[upper sun]

just like if you hit a mauler with a knife and they bleed

they will show up as flak

[spice hare]

so it's stack 5 times ?

[primal plume]

Did they fix the flurry bug on surge?

[upper sun]

soulblaze stacks up to 16 sticks based on the weapon

[spice hare]

there is actually a bug ? 😮

[summer prairie]

no

[upper sun]

and 31 based on talents

[spice hare]

Ohhh ok 😮

[summer prairie]

but flurry is still fine with the bug

[spice hare]

31 !

[plucky flax]

If you full charge flurry is still fine. Don't cast right away.

[primal plume]

Its making Surge slower than faster. It even happens with the Celerity Stim Buff

[plucky flax]

You should full charge with surge anyway

[primal plume]

thats good to know, actually

[spice hare]

Okay i didn't know the "meta" bug atm lol

[upper sun]

yes if you burn a target with a staff they can only go up to 16 but if you use creeping flames or kill elites around it you can have more stacks

[upper sun]

its ok neither do we yet

[spice hare]

Okay i see thank you you are a dictionnary 🤣

[summer prairie]

it's not making surge charging slower, it just takes slightly longer to attack if you are trying to do it immediately

[nocturne dust]

Not a meta bug, just a surge bug, and surge will never be meta

[upper sun]

i just repeat what the old folks here once said

before dying of old age

[summer prairie]

if you have your flurry stacks up you can barely attack by the time the bar is full, which in a way is also convenient

[plucky flax]

Surge is bad same with blaze trauma. Pls only run void

[spice hare]

Nooooo 🥺

[nocturne dust]

voidblast you say?

[primal plume]

I dont like how slow void was made after the update...

[nocturne dust]

surge voidblast?

[plucky flax]

Yeah rip true aim

[nocturne dust]

it... it's not any slower? wdym?

[plucky flax]

Its still okay

[spice hare]

i'm sad to read this 🥺

[summer prairie]

true aim is now mostly intended to be a melee weaving talent

[plucky flax]

I am memeing surge/electro is the strongest and easiest staff to play.

No cap

[nocturne dust]

cap

[spice hare]

Oh cool 😂

[nocturne dust]

hard cap

[spice hare]

You are still playing i remember your nickname

[limber silo]

Nah, trauma is the strongest. Purge is the easiest

[plucky flax]

You are welcome to dps race (I hate this) with me if you want.

[nocturne dust]

this

[primal plume]

The cast time is really slow compared to pre-work

[limber silo]

Bro, purge is just string in a direction

[patent steeple]

so now its officially meant to be used like I have almost always used it?

[plucky flax]

Surge is just aim in general direction and all shooters die.

[nocturne dust]

ah

[strong gulch]

I was having cognitive issues earlier today, and can attest to the ease of use of purg staff.

PS: get fecked brain fog

[nocturne dust]

so... like every staff?

[plucky flax]

No blaze trauma is hard af to play well.

[nocturne dust]

It really ain't

[strong gulch]

Not void. I can't aim

[plucky flax]

Okay I am veri bad

[nocturne dust]

If I can do it, anyone can

[strong gulch]

I can't.

[nocturne dust]

oh ok

[strong gulch]

I am not just anyone.

[plucky flax]

I need to use 110% brain power to play blaze trauma to the level of surge.

Freaking flicking and all

[strong gulch]

surge is dodge slide and don't explode

[nocturne dust]

flicking?

[sturdy tendon]

The new train mission seems tailor made for Voidstrike

[plucky flax]

Extreme trauma technique

[summer prairie]

also for purg and trauma

[strong gulch]

also yelling all of the time lol

remember your vocal warm ups before heading out to kill mobs

[nocturne dust]

well... I don't think you need to do complex techs

[plucky flax]

No but if you want to eek out every ounce of performance

Like surge blitz cancel

[nocturne dust]

sure but who does that

[plucky flax]

Top 1% psyker or something

[sturdy tendon]

Surge blitz cancel is how I fuck up my fingers even more playing DarkTide

Tbh shit like Illisi light spam is already pushing it

[strong gulch]

Trauma blast is more like an orb. It's easier to hit father away targets by aiming above them but you have to judge on where to aim from the floor first. So you flick up.

[strong gulch]

VALID

[nocturne dust]

Ah, that

Maybe I'm lucky, but I generally can just predict the distance

[strong gulch]

ye

[patent steeple]

I lack the motor-skills to perform tons of highly-complex finger gymnastics, so I don't even try Surge blitz cancelling

[strong gulch]

same

[nocturne dust]

Also the strength in trauma isn't the damage, it's the stagger

[sturdy tendon]

I can probably pull it off, but I am not even attempting to

[strong gulch]

It's the both at the same time.

[plucky flax]

Don't it's not worth your fingers

[nocturne dust]

Eh, no, it's definitely the stagger. Literally just point at your feet and never die to anything melee

[plucky flax]

Protect thy dainty digits

[sturdy tendon]

I started favoring heavy reliant horde clearers now

Heavy sword is pretty fun in that regard

Should make one for my Psyker

[nocturne dust]

Illisi staring from a distance

[nocturne dust]

Also, I still feel like surge is the weakest staff. Purgatus got blaze away and just eats rooms even harder, Strike got warp splitting and SG surge nonsense, Trauma is still trauma

[sturdy tendon]

Surge with PC and Creeping Flames can horde clear tbh

[nocturne dust]

but that's my general feel of the staves, I don't have a calculator out or anything and I'm not someone who does all the techs. I don't even quell cancel.

[sturdy tendon]

But it gets bogged down by Pox walkers easily

[nocturne dust]

Welcome to shriek

The burning pile of corpses is to your left

[sturdy tendon]

It compliments the elite killer staff pretty well

[nocturne dust]

the still living heretics that took 100 to 200 damage are to your right

[spice hare]

Empowered psionics or Warp siphon for purgatus ? 😮

[spice hare]

Thank you !

[nocturne dust]

I need to put that build on a hotkey or something

[spice hare]

haha i guess

[plucky flax]

If you feel that way fair

[spice hare]

Surge is played with blaze away ?

😮

[nocturne dust]

Agreed, it's why Fatshark should buff surge

[upper sun]

no hes right purge very week