psyker-class

[long wharf]

so then yes - just like In Fire Reborn

which is great

[unreal wasp]

Does Charged Strike not stun enemies like they said it wouldn't? Pretty sure I've been stunning enemies with the electricity.

[nocturne dust]

It doesn't stun enemies as far as I'm aware

[quartz barn]

From a clad video from yesterday it was shown it does stun them

But is pretty bad and a little delayed

[nocturne stream]

is perilous combustion worth or wildfire

[urban sandal]

perilous is good wildfire is not

[long wharf]

PC is always worthwhile

[quartz barn]

Pc is a really good dps boosted

[shrewd spoke]

is best roll for dueling sword still shred/uncanny with mobility dump stat or has meta changed

[long wharf]

wildfire might now be interesting with the new talent node for getting toughness and crit chance per enemy with soulblaze dying

[quartz barn]

Nop

[urban sandal]

cleave dump stat for duelling sword

[quartz barn]

Rememeber it cant give stacks to enemies that already have 4 or more

[urban sandal]

uncanny is still best in slot blessing but the 2nd can be any really

[long wharf]

that's not the benefit from it now

it spreading warpfire to enemies without warpfire is

[quartz barn]

Ye but my point is that 1-4 stacks, mostly 1, doesnt really kill

[long wharf]

you are correct

[celest cave]

Dont ya think its bugged? Or I dont understand how it works? Sometimes I can shoot a staff's primary a few time after Gaze but sometimes its insta explode

[shrewd spoke]

noice, that's helpful

[long wharf]

but Souldrinker means you're getting toughness and crit chance for every enemy that dies soulblazed

[quartz barn]

So unless you have something else to further boost your burn stacks its not worth it

[long wharf]

regardless of stack count

[nocturne dust]

I just looked through clad's posted videos and can't find it, lol

[nocturne stream]

The countdown is hidden some times which makes it hard to know when the buff runs out. The longer you stay under 100% peril the longer the linger lasts

[summer prairie]

it's bugged with surge staffa and purg

[quartz barn]

Rip mightve been kjerad then

[long wharf]

what's bugged?

[celest cave]

NOICE the only two staffs I did try

Lmao

[floral olive]

Hi, why does surge blessing only work on voidstrike and not on other staves secondaries ?

[long wharf]

because projectiles

[urban sandal]

probably because of what they consider to be a projectile

[nocturne dust]

Nope, there is a video by @wind spruce that shows them using it and it not stunning the enemy (or really doing anything) and them speculating with @potent echo it used to stun enemies which may have been worth it

[urban sandal]

trauma staff with a functional surge would be sick

[floral olive]

what was even the point of giving surge to the electricity surge force staff or whatever its new name is?...

[urban sandal]

in case you want to do a primary fire build I guess lol

[floral olive]

wow is that actually a thing ?

I saw the new blessing on the left

talents*

That boost primary shots

[nocturne dust]

but we don't live in that universe where it stuns enemies unfortunately

[urban sandal]

it's generally a meme but yeah it can work

[nocturne dust]

the lingering effect is the damage part, it's a weird small DoT and barely does any damage, definitely doesn't stun

[vestal fulcrum]

Definitely wasn’t my video, I can’t take no credit for that

[floral olive]

so warp nexus + rending shockwave and then you take the talent that gives 30% dmg to your primary for 5s after a fully charged secondary ? 🤣

[vestal fulcrum]

I should share more videos for that street cred

[floral olive]

40% brittleness +30% dmg

ah nvm you don't have surge then...

[long wharf]

what's the optimal strategy for mastery gain?

buy a bunch of whites and upgrade them?

[broken carbon]

upgrade them once

then sacrifice them at green

[long wharf]

just to green?

[broken carbon]

yeah

[long wharf]

so no improved gain past that? really?

[broken carbon]

there is

but not worth the cost

it’s 100-200 plasteel to upgrade once

[quartz barn]

Its to save mats, and you cant sacrifice grey gear

[broken carbon]

but maxing out costs 1200ish plasteel

[long wharf]

well, okay, but if resources aren't a concern, and I only care about gaining as much mastery as fast as possible

[broken carbon]

not counting empower

[broken carbon]

still upgrading once

[shrewd spoke]

Is the amount of mastery xp you get per round dependent on how much you actually use that weapon during the round, or is it purely based off tier of completion

[clear heath]

a blue is a negligible amount more mastery but costs over 2x as much as a green

[long wharf]

gotcha

[clear heath]

I don't remember how much but i remember the number was so similar, i could believe 10% difference

[celest cave]

From 12 to 20 18 blue weapons of the same type, not so much plasteel tbh

[molten prawn]

What guns you guys liking for gunker besides infatry, im liking shredder and need to test las pistol more

[vestal fulcrum]

Laspistol.

[jovial juniper]

Yes, staff has good breakpoints on LMB among other things

[upper sun]

i maxed out 3.8 classes for ~25k plasteel and ~1mil

were finally free

[long wharf]

yeah, I'm seeing that it's not too bad

[upper sun]

now i just play for playing

[long wharf]

now it's time for soulblazing surge staff

[upper sun]

my god rashad on zealot with 80 80 80 80 stats FUCKS

[oblique ravine]

is warp unbound bugged? I keep dying after scriers gaze ends and I use any warp ability

[clear heath]

surge staff does feel a little clunkier with that flurry issue people were talking about

feels like i have cast earlier than i expect

[long wharf]

warp flurry bugged how?

[frigid sparrow]

I have no proof, but I think it doesn't matter. I use staff most of the time and my sword has been leveling up just fine on its own

[clear heath]

@long wharf

[long wharf]

aw man, no soulblaze on surge staff

https://tenor.com/view/my-disappointment-is-immeasurable-and-gif-20080022

[clear heath]

it's playable but it feels clunky

i would just play something else in the meantime if you have other builds to try

[white blaze]

80/80/80/80/62? Is this blessed?

[long wharf]

it's just a display bug

[near wyvern]

Some of the 80 are 79.5 or something

[upper sun]

then they wouldnt round up

ye

[untold niche]

HELLO PYGEX
also thats a thing?

[upper sun]

,5+,5+,5+,5=2

checks out

[long wharf]

what I really want to know is how Blaze Away on the purge staff works

[upper sun]

blaze away rending

im so hype

[long wharf]

penetrating flame is going to be absolutely amazing

[sonic gale]

anything to change on this>

?

[long wharf]

to me, the entirety of the psyker changes could be summed up with "It's purge staff time"

[long wharf]

I wouldn't trust Agile to work different from the perk of the same wording

[untold niche]

was reading zealot chat and like the new flamer, with the pen blessing was pretty meh
hopefully not the same with psyker

[near wyvern]

Almost all the values in the game are floats and then rounded by the UI to show integers because no one wants to read 79.86763445566788264 on their screen

I have two "identical" weapons yet their total level is different

[untold niche]

Hmmm
Even the actual damage values on the stat screens?
I always thought they were in 2dp denominations

[craggy sigil]

Yes I actually prefer the proper form 2^6 1 + 0.24793195724487305

[near wyvern]

Especially actual damage is floats, but there is a lot that affects the actual damage than simply the weapon damage

[untold niche]

isnt this the ietf form

[white blaze]

Well, I choose to believe that the emperor has personally blessed me with an extra 2 points in mobility.

[craggy sigil]

ieee 754

[near wyvern]

The proper form is 2.346647e3

[long wharf]

warp flurry seems to work just fine on purge staff

[untold niche]

eh john is sorta right but sorta wrong
you change it to bin
then power it until first digit is a 1, throw the 1 away and store the rest

mantissa

damn

i actually remember

[long wharf]

good lord, purge's direct damage can really ramp up now

this is bonkers

[late sapphire]

...power is now named strength?

[celest cave]

Well, heavy electrocute from Smite can be applied from Catachan's parry, how it useful I dont know

[clear heath]

yeah

[brazen warren]

Electric heavy attacks are not a powerful as I hoped. Do they have extra stagger or are they only good for utilizing the 10% bonus damage from the other smite passive?

[clear heath]

adding an extra 40-80 damage (over ~3 seconds) to your parry.
huge

it seems to just suck rn

i remember hearing something about a shock maul blessing involving shocked enemies? maybe that works

[jovial juniper]

High Voltage

[celest cave]

^ this

[clear heath]

is it useful at all for that?

[celest cave]

Dmg scaling if you want to run melee smite+gaze

Sounds sucks...

[clear heath]

feels like a waste of points

why did fatshark even bother if they were gonna make it this bad?

[celest cave]

You can increase bleeds tics if you run a knife

[quartz barn]

That stuff should literally be tuned per weapon man

[gray zephyr]

is it intended that you can no longer cast a charged voidstrike at 100% peril?

[jovial juniper]

You explode lmao

[gray zephyr]

before I would continue casting at 100% and sometimes benefit from battle med, if not I would use vent, but yes now I explode with no voidstrike cast

[summer prairie]

there's an official fix for numericui now as well

[long wharf]

what changed with the Illisi?

[upper sun]

unjorkable

now you have to QQ

[long wharf]

what does that even mean?

[clear heath]

when you power it up while it's already powered, it doesn't generate peril

[long wharf]

ah

[clear heath]

this doesn't refresh the duration either so it literally just plays the animation again and does nothing

[long wharf]

you can't freely ramp up your peril any more

[rain meadow]

is gun psyker good yet?

[clear heath]

illisi change is a mild annoyance because when i see the animation, i expect peril to go up or like literally anything to happen

[rain meadow]

this appears to be a thing on all staves

[long wharf]

we can freely create curios

bless the Omnissiah

bless the Omnissiah everyone

[rain meadow]

oh thats neat

[gray zephyr]

yeah, not liking this change

[rain meadow]

its caused me to explode multiple times

[clear heath]

yeah i hope you saved enough 17% toughness curios

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-tears-gif-25605273

[clear heath]

can now reasonably aim for perfect curios on everyone

[long wharf]

yeah

[summer prairie]

I had 25 17% toughness curios. Was a bit excessive in hindsight

[nocturne dust]

gimme some, I keep not checking curios for no reason

[clear heath]

i get to have like 3% more toughness
gonna be huge

[long wharf]

now I can put +ordo dockets on all my curios

[split lance]

is assail usable in auric or no

[long wharf]

and still have stamina regen and resistances

[nocturne dust]

is usable

[patent wing]

Look at this beauty

[long wharf]

assail got hit hard by the true aim change

[split lance]

better or worse than before

[clear heath]

I had a character that was missing a 17% curio and i just spammed the random melk curio till i got one. Didn't take long

I don't think melk's shop has much value to me anymore anyways

[nocturne dust]

Probably worse with the true aim nerf, but you can use SG with it now so...

[long wharf]

I think the "blessing" on curios should be tied to its level

i.e. we should be able to empower the curio to max out the blessing

[celest cave]

Is everyone have 4 extra points in Surge mastery?)

[nocturne dust]

si

[clear heath]

yeah

[long wharf]

looks like it

[celest cave]

Got

[clear heath]

fatshark failed at math i guess

[long wharf]

I mean, when do they not?

[clear heath]

or there's a secret blessing that they're hiding from us

[nocturne dust]

They're game designers, not mathematicians

[clear heath]

the blessing will make surge the most powerful weapon in the game and introduce 391 new bugs

[long wharf]

it'd be really nice if they just gave us soulblaze blessing to use those 4 points for

I just want surge to cause soulblaze, is that too much to ask?

[nocturne dust]

Granted, but the monkey's paw curls

[long wharf]

I've been asking since release

[clear heath]

Yeah i've wanted blazing spirit surge for a while too

[long wharf]

I'd sell one of my (now adult) kids if it'd help

[clear heath]

i've always liked fire and lightning stuff, and it's already a crit weapon anyways

[long wharf]

yep

the synergy is right there damnit

so, basically, the only reason to bother looking at Sour Milk now is to see if he's offering a high-rated weapon in a group you're looking for

as we aren't chasing blessings directly, any more

[clear heath]

seems like it

[zinc phoenix]

What true aim changes

[clear heath]

or for new players who want an early maxed weapon

[long wharf]

true aim is now once per attack, not per hit

[nocturne dust]

Atk spd buffs

[zinc phoenix]

Oh blessed day

[long wharf]

heresy - it's a big negative change for assail

[zinc phoenix]

Assail was lame and I wish it wasn’t a thing

[long wharf]

almost pointless now

[zinc phoenix]

Always was 😤

[long wharf]

you're lame and I wish you weren't a thing

[zinc phoenix]

Indeed I am not a thing

Checkmate materialists

[clear heath]

i think it hurts void users too but they're probably overall winning from that cleave node

[long wharf]

does the cleave node affect void?

that'd be interesting

[nocturne dust]

assail is the only fun blitz, change my mind

[clear heath]

i've heard it affects ranged

haven't tried it myself

[long wharf]

wait, range?

[zinc phoenix]

France looked pretty fun

[nocturne dust]

si

[clear heath]

sorry i meant ranged weapons

not like, distance

[long wharf]

ah gotcha

[frigid sparrow]

What do you pair that with?

[long wharf]

I'd assume it'd make void charged shots go through double the number of enemies

[nocturne dust]

It lets you cleave with staff lmb near 100% peril, lol

[long wharf]

which would be rather nice, actually

especially since it's the only staff where the surge blessing fully works

[frigid sparrow]

I really like being a breathing fire dragon and just building up peril to vent soulblaze everywhere, but assail looks cool af

[long wharf]

man, it'd be awesome for the surge blessing to make the surge staff hit two different enemies

[patent wing]

currently thats for melee psyker

[nocturne dust]

You have to edge pretty hard to get the full effect, don't think many players do that

[zinc phoenix]

More ways for people to blow themselves up are good

Psykers exploding is funny

[nocturne dust]

not a blitz

[long wharf]

especially when it's now on purpose

[zinc phoenix]

It’s too bad we don’t summon a demon when we die

[long wharf]

I'm definitely going to make a suicide bomber build

[zinc phoenix]

Like accidentally weakened bon spawn

[frigid sparrow]

I've been working really hard on trying to stay at 75% for the rending node. The new peril node makes it possible. I have to run a low quell staff otherwise I tap quell and lose 30% in a second

[clear heath]

it's also hard to give up the current 2 good blessings on surge staff, so letting surge have more good blessings would add some meaningful choices

[nocturne dust]

hot take but I enjoy being at low peril

[long wharf]

it's easier than you think, especially with a lot of peril gen reduction

means it's safer to operate at high peril, because you're generating a lot less

[frigid sparrow]

Also blitz doesn't do it for me. If I'm going to hold someone in place and stun lock them while spamming pretty colors I can at least have the courtsey to do damage

[patent wing]

well no need to be at 75, can go to 60, charge and the shot will be at 75

[nocturne dust]

it's also harder to get to high peril, lol

[frigid sparrow]

Can I have thunder strikes instead?

[long wharf]

time to check out this new mission

[frigid sparrow]

Change that charged heavy into a lightning bolt effect with some AOE

200 damage

[clear heath]

I've also heard mention of people running the new peril reduction talent and stacking peril res to basically spam the entire time

and just shrieking instead of ever quelling

[frigid sparrow]

I've heard and seen that too. I've ran a few missions in QP with a guy who seemed to be doing that.

[nocturne dust]

I do that, except shriek is dumb and not needed so I use SG and surge on voidstrike to just have infinite balls everywhere

[plucky flax]

Fs need to make blazing spirits 4 cap at 8

[frigid sparrow]

It was good at stealing last hits, thats for sure

[nocturne dust]

you stack so much peril gen red that it doesn't matter

[frigid sparrow]

But you lose damage doing that, I like rending at 75% peril

[nocturne dust]

I don't even have that node anyway, lol

too many things I want, a tiny bit of rending at high peril isn't part of my playstyle or necessary for breakpoints

[brazen warren]

combine the charged heavy electrification with the 10% bonus damage against electrified targets

[nocturne dust]

maybe the node about doing damage on heavy melee attacks should do some actual damage

[clear heath]

That sounds like a waste of points except against bosses

[frigid sparrow]

That's understandable. It's been a long time since I've played, I know they exist but don't actually know them. I'm speaking antidotally here, every surge psyker I've encountered using surge was really good at webbing up groups for someone else to hurt. It was 50/50 on if I liked where the webs were. I hated open ground zones where they would web guys that were spawning in up high and not letting them drop to melee.

I've just been doing purge and I have no idea if I'm even doing it well

[nocturne dust]

I've been talking about surge the blessing with voidstrike, not the... ahem electrokinetic staff

[clear heath]

see this is why they renamed it

[nocturne dust]

Yeah but surge surge is funny for memery

[frigid sparrow]

Oh man, sorry for not following lol

[clear heath]

but we're all definitely gonna call it surge anyways for the next year or two

[frigid sparrow]

I'm not familar with the blessing, what is it?

[nocturne dust]

They could've just renamed the blessing instead

[clear heath]

it makes you shoot twice on crits, only effective on balls

[nocturne dust]

doubles the attack on crit, but only projectiles so only lmb on trauma/electro but also rmb on voidstrike

[vestal fulcrum]

Does it cap at 6, still?

[nocturne dust]

so why'd they rename trauma to voidblast

[clear heath]

because they're evil

[unreal wasp]

Is the new thing where force swords don't generate peril when you spam warp charge a bug? Can't find it in the patch notes

[vestal fulcrum]

Mayhaps to avoid some awkward naming confusion

[clear heath]

equivalent exchange
make one name less confusing and another name more confusing

[vestal fulcrum]

Like the Surge blessing and the Surge staff

[clear heath]

voidstrike is still called voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

Like blasting my void all over my strike?

[clear heath]

so we have voidblast and voidstrike

[vestal fulcrum]

Yeah, but is there anything in the game called Voidstrike?

[clear heath]

and the entire community has been calling voidstrike "void" for years...

[vestal fulcrum]

Because Trauma is also a name of the blessing

[nocturne dust]

...yes, voidstrike.

[vestal fulcrum]

I have no idea why Purgatus was renamed though lol

[long wharf]

well that's an interesting mission

[clear heath]

Some new player is gonna call it the void staff and we're all gonna be confused

[vestal fulcrum]

That’s why I’m propagating new names

Zapstick

Boomstick

[nocturne dust]

"hey guys, is surge good on void?"

[nocturne dust]

not like blessings are renameable and the lesser-known names

[frigid sparrow]

Can I run assail with purge staff?

[nocturne dust]

You can. If you like.

[frigid sparrow]

I'm trying to path and I can't grab wildfire, which feels really important

so i'm stuck with brain rupture

[vestal fulcrum]

I’m sure they have their reasons. Im not super happy with it, either, but if it’s justifiable through something they’ve yet to implement, then at worst we will have to cope with it.

[patent steeple]

sorry to interrupt your conversation, but I have a few questions regarding flame staff:

1. is Penetrating Flame (Brittleness blessing) better than Blaze Away at direct damage?
2. is Showstopper's explosion damage worth it? (it didn't look like it when I was testing in the Meat Grinder)
3. if I were to make a more direct-damage flame staff, what perks should I put on it?

[nocturne dust]

Wildfire is nice with purge, yeah.

[nocturne dust]

Blaze Away is BiS, showstopper is a meme and ineffective

Purge's direct damage is awful

I don't recommend it

[vestal fulcrum]

1. Almost certainly not. It will primarily help you with damaging Crushers without resolving to your melee (or blitz if it’s BR)
2. I don’t think it is worth a blessing slot, no. There’s too many competitive blessings at play.
3. Flak perk at least is nice.

[celest cave]

Ok, I found a breakpoint

[frigid sparrow]

1. Blaze away buffs yourself, Brittle buffs your team. It's kinda cool spraying down the big armored chad to brittle his armor and watching someone headshot it.
2. I haven't tried. If the explosion damage is terrible, what about the stun from the damage proc? Does it tie enemies up enough to be worth it?
3. Blaze away + Penetrating?

[nocturne dust]

Purge's direct damage is like 30 to 40 iirc which will not do much to anything other than trash, and even then you will still probably kill things with the DoT instead

[patent steeple]

yeah, flak is always good to have on the flame stick. I guess crit chance for the second perk because crits on purgatus is good...

[frigid sparrow]

I like to focus on stacking the DoT stacks. I had a UI mod that showed stacks and made it really nice to count

[nocturne dust]

I use Blaze Away + Penetrating but I think Nexus is better meta-wise over penetrating, you're not really killing crushers with that low amount of brittleness

[frigid sparrow]

crit = 2 stacks vs 1 right? Stack bunch of crit chance and max stack in a few puffs of steady stream?

Also, that's good to know. Does the channeling speed blessing have any QoL to it? Can I slide further?

[nocturne dust]

si, crit good because more stacks

[frigid sparrow]

Also channeling speed

[analog agate]

I will attempt to refer to surge as electro staff. And trauma as blast staff. I am a blast main now. shudders

[nocturne dust]

channeling speed bad. No extra speed.

[frigid sparrow]

Be consistent and others will follow lol

[nocturne dust]

COMMISSAR! BLAST THIS MAN!

[clear heath]

brittle helps your team's damage
and helping your teammates BAD because i want a better scoreboard so it's GARBAGE

[frigid sparrow]

My brain rupture is so slow and I hate it

It's nice for those snipers noone else takes, but its when there is a group of ranged that noone is hitting after the horde has been wiped and we're all running

[nocturne dust]

helping team bad because then you're relying on potentially-braindead bots

[frigid sparrow]

I can't fire it off fast enough

[nocturne dust]

Empowered Psionics is practically required for BB

but if you're trying to deal with shooters on a BB/purge build, either take bubble/vent or run up and flame them

[frigid sparrow]

I've been running vent + warp charge. My goal is to ride the 75% peril while trying to apply DoT stacks. Right now, the peril gen reduction node is making it hard for me to get the engine warm. I was thinking of maybe trying sci gaze to rocket to the 75% mark

[nocturne dust]

Are you using purge

[frigid sparrow]

yes

[nocturne dust]

Cuz you don't need peril gen red with purge

that staff does not generate peril

[jovial juniper]

Not happening if you have ER

It really slows gaze

And if your dot kills

[frigid sparrow]

ER?

[jovial juniper]

It really slows gaze

[frigid sparrow]

OH The node

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[frigid sparrow]

I'm confused on what you're saying when you refer to slowing gaze

I haven't used it but a few times

[nocturne dust]

Yes, the node, Empowered Rionics

[jovial juniper]

Gaze is affected by Reduced peril generation
If you kill stuff, gaze also slows down

Honestly

[nocturne dust]

They're not using Gaze

[celest cave]

All staff's primary have the same dmg yeah?

[frigid sparrow]

That's not a bad thing tho since I want extra crit chance anyways right?

[jovial juniper]

Try spamming the charge on your staff

[nocturne dust]

no, staff stats matter and are different

as in, electro has crit bonus

[jovial juniper]

Yeah it's not bad

[celest cave]

I switched between all of them and primary seems 166 in every case

[upper sun]

i-ive been playing inventory for hours

send help

my back hurts

[celest cave]

I forgot about that tho

[jovial juniper]

20% crit chance from pressing one button is cool

[clear heath]

yeah electro staff just ends up better at left clicks cause of the crit

[sand cove]

Need someone to post some builds now that my stuff got reset 😭

[nocturne dust]

make your own

[jovial juniper]

And like
Warp Syphon+purgatus=Scrier's Gaze spam

[nocturne dust]

[sand cove]

If I wanted to make my own why would I ask lmao

[celest cave]

I was thinking about staff with soulblaze blessing

[jovial juniper]

My sibling in psykhana
What weapons
What purpose

[celest cave]

for primary spam

[jovial juniper]

Don't just tell us to do stuff

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-no-angry-steve-carell-michael-scott-gif-5606969

[languid pasture]

anyone have recs on which shotgun to run

[unkempt hare]

I like pyro psyker it is very fun

[languid pasture]

without thinking about it i was gonna roll slug but idk

[upper sun]

btw

uncanny relentless allows you to lmb spam a crusher to death

[fluid lynx]

electro staff surge crit lmb build is fun

[unkempt hare]

I'm thinking about doing shred and blazing spirit to spread some fire

[analog agate]

My build for blaze trauma

This is the other version I will try

[clear heath]

wow you take both quell speed and coherency aura range nodes?

i would've taken neither if i could. Both are practically nothing to me

[analog agate]

I never know about the coherency one honestly. I may not take it

Quell speed I like because of quietude

[clear heath]

I usually end up taking quell speed if i path down there

quell speed on a staff is usually fast enough that i could live without it, but it's better than coherency radius

[jovial juniper]

The lack of soul stealer is

And you should try Soul Drinker

[analog agate]

I haven’t tried with warp exp yet. I just know the ol’ mettle and perfect timing route ain’t cutting it for survivability anymore

[patent wing]

is there a mod that tracks scriers time?

[hasty valve]

What's the new name for Accatran VId?

[analog agate]

Yep, this is the other one I will try today. Just a wasted node for the melee attack speed because I don’t melee outside of heavy pokes

[flint pawn]

Why is it on occasion when I pick up a Psyker, they blow up instantly

[analog agate]

Accatran xii i think. Or xii something haha

[jovial juniper]

The funny

[plucky flax]

Sorry it was me.

[orchid shadow]

Is it just me or does that new Infected Mobien event not really change anything aside from adding creepy giant skulls on the walls?

[flint pawn]

smh

at least you took out the rager with you

[hasty valve]

Thats the super fast one right?

The one that basically just screams the enemies to death 😄

[latent mauve]

P much

[upper sun]

didnt even notice that

[latent mauve]

Still has comically low rewards lmao

[upper sun]

welll everything is cheaper now

4k dockets gets you a t4 blessing

[crisp yacht]

Hmm just thinking at work. But maybe a purge build where you don't take a keystone. That way you can go for the new soul drinker and the lmb damage increase nodes.

Can fat shark increase lvl cap by like 5 pls??

[unkempt hare]

Much cheaper

[orchid shadow]

This was the first door in Smelter and I was like, "Oooh, it's go time". Bunch of nothing.

[analog agate]

I will say I am happy with the mettle nerf though. Gone are the days where I am legit invincible

[patent wing]

souldrinker is killing WITH soulblaze or WITH soulblaze

?

[analog solstice]

what would you say is the best inferno staff blessings and perks in this latest update?

considering maybe getting warp flurry and blaze away or penetrating flame

[patent wing]

BA + PF with UNY+CARA

[analog agate]

Blaze away/nexus and flak/unyielding (if you don’t want to melee swap)

Flak/crit chance is another one I guess

[patent wing]

burn has extra dmg against flak anyway

[analog solstice]

man i kinda dont wanna swap out my warp flurry, staff feels so slow without it

[patent wing]

and with BA everything dies pretty fast anyway

[patent wing]

BA still better sadly, ive conducted extensive testing

[analog solstice]

alright, so ill try without flurry

[carmine agate]

oo

[analog solstice]

BA and penetrating then

[patent wing]

i can just advise u to learn lmb quell spam

and take the LMB dmg talent because thats another BA for free

[languid pasture]

anyone got a shotgun build they are playing with

[analog solstice]

blaze away doesnt work with secondary attack?

are you just spamming left clicks?

[patent wing]

i mean you could spare penetration if you dont wanna handle carapace with staff, it takes 20sec to kill a crusher with that setup

[patent wing]

yes it works with both

[analog solstice]

i would like penetrating just so i can handle crushers easily too, i think ill go with maniac/crit and BA/PF 🤔

crit because i got a bunch of talents that proc when i crit

mettle and perfect timing

[carmine agate]

what stat shld i look for for purg staff?

[patent wing]

maniac takes extra dmg from rending, take + cara

drop the unyielding for crit chance if you think ull need it

[analog solstice]

why carapace? i feel like the rare times we encounter crushers penetrating flame will handle them

[patent wing]

w8 nah cant test it rn got no money and the mod is not updated yet

imo cara is worth it if u already plan to use it against crushers since it calculates the bonus dmg according to your base dmg (which is higher than the dmg against cara) and therefore boosting PF

[analog solstice]

rending doesnt affect burn damage over time?

[patent wing]

@summer prairie hows +bonus dmg handled again?
does it increase base dmg as i wrote above?

[patent wing]

it does affect it

[clear heath]

That doesn't sound right

if damage from +cara perks ignored bad ADMs from carapace, every weapon would be good at crushers with +cara but i haven't seen that to be the case

[frigid sparrow]

If enemy dies while on fire, buff proc'd

[patent wing]

only if inbuilt penetration or rending blessing

[analog solstice]

does flak really take extra damage from burn, never heard it before

and rending on maniac

[plucky flax]

Played my first train mission and won yay!

[fresh reef]

Any obscurus truthers in chat?

[plucky flax]

Timing was tight nearly lost only had 20s left.

[fresh reef]

What difficulty tho?

[analog agate]

It is always gonna be tight because of the long minigame/artificial time limit

[plucky flax]

Hishock?

[fresh reef]

How

[plucky flax]

I dunno I recorded it too.

[fresh reef]

I've yet to be able to win a hishock train

[plucky flax]

I had no clue what's going on.

[fresh reef]

Did you have teammates with brains?

[plucky flax]

Yeah well they did the mini game I didn't. 😄

[clear heath]

Then you worded it in a weird way because the way you said this implies that it's separate to the whole carapace damage thing and therefor rending doesn't even matter.
If you're saying it is affected by cara adms and rending, then whether it's base damage or final damage actually doesn't matter in this case because you're just rearranging the order in multiplication.

[sonic gale]

Duelling sword or the blaze force sword?

[fluid lynx]

which one do you think is cooler

[plucky flax]

Damn the vet in team only took 2hp damage he's op.

[clear heath]

dueling sword probably better but force swords are cooler so

[carmine agate]

chunky

[sonic gale]

anywhere where i can find what perks and blessings i want for the force sword?

whats a BIS roll look like

[plucky flax]

Whick force sword?

And what do you want to do with it?

[sonic gale]

Deimos MK IV

i find my duelling sword struggles with clear so i want something to counter that

[fresh reef]

What weapons and ability was he using? Need to know if I'm allowed to respect that

[patent wing]

25% of a higher difference between base dmg and cara dmg.

[patent wing]

deimos with slaugtherer op fo that

[sonic gale]

this is mine atm, should i buy some more to try and get better rolls?

[plucky flax]

Rashad bolter and shout.

[patent wing]

depends, i run flak and cara on my deimos, paired with slaugtherer and uncanny

[sonic gale]

slaughterer sounds really good so il probs go for that

[fresh reef]

Rashad VoC

Respect 📉

[clear heath]

but like it's still reduced by cara armor values
My point is that the difference is pointless
25% more base damage that gets reduced by cara armor is not any different than 25% more total damage after the armor calculation. At the end you can still just say you did +25% more damage

[crisp yacht]

Decent enough. Can use it to level mastery.

[patent wing]

nexus < PF

[frigid sparrow]

What is UNY? Unarmored?

What is LMB quell spam?

[sonic gale]

thanks, any idea on what rolls i wanna be aiming for?

[unkempt hare]

Unyeilding

[plucky flax]

Why it's only 20 brittleness it's so shit.

[late sapphire]

if you left click and quell the very moment after you skip the cooldown between left click projectiles

[clear heath]

but if we're gonna talk about whether +cara is useful on purg, honestly i think you'll just stab the crushers anyways

[patent wing]

its 20% rending, they fixed the wording

[late sapphire]

if you spam the two buttons together you can shit out balls at twice the rate

[plucky flax]

How much do you actually burn the crusher?

[patent wing]

its literally 50% faster kill time

[late sapphire]

wow only 1 year ttk down from 2 years

[plucky flax]

Yeah lol

[patent wing]

19 seconds

[plucky flax]

Nawh dawg I have my melee for crusher.

[patent wing]

on infinite amount while dealing with all other units

[clear heath]

It is 20% brittleness

[unkempt hare]

I'd prefer to just brain burst and finish off with sword

[patent wing]

is the same effect as rending for onself

[clear heath]

they fixed it from before when they accidentally said rending

[plucky flax]

It's so bad you can kill everything else so much faster with nexus.

Then just poke crusher with deimos/ds.

[patent wing]

its 19/29 seconds

[analog solstice]

I did a lot of testing in meat grinder now. 4.2 casts (full charge) to kill a crusher without carapace perk. 5.2 casts so kill a cursher without cara perk

penetrating flames seem to more than double dps against crushers

[patent wing]

also it boosts dmg against unyielding and maniacs

[near wyvern]

19 seconds is way too fucking long

[late sapphire]

much more than doubling yes

[plucky flax]

I mean if you want to use it go ahead.

[patent wing]

well you are not the only one hitting it, and brittle is a team buff

[late sapphire]

but you go from like 1 dmg to 10 dmg yknow

[plucky flax]

I tested it myself and I find nexus/ba so much better.

[unkempt hare]

I'm telling you, purg just isnt the way to go for crushers

[near wyvern]

Or you could just smack it in the head with melee and be done with it ya know

[analog solstice]

Im concluding with going for blaze away and penetrating flames with maniac and crit perks

[late sapphire]

you're still better off ep smiting em lol

[fresh reef]

What's obscurus horde clear and single target combos?

[unkempt hare]

Pop em once with brain burst

[clear heath]

switch to melee or brain burst or something and kill it in 3-6 seconds instead

[patent wing]

rmb stacks so fast anyway, 2-3 crits more dont matter

[fresh reef]

It feels so fucking weird, I have no clue how to use this thing lol

[near wyvern]

Nexus ba is new BiS for Purga

You can also tech to keep up BA even while quelling

[clear heath]

to be clear i'm not arguing against the blessing.
I'm arguing against taking cara on your purg
Just brittle them and swap to melee for cara

[analog solstice]

nexus over penetrating flames?

[near wyvern]

But even if you drop it it's so easy to stack it up again

[clear heath]

taking cara on purg to spend 19 seconds on a crusher sounds deranged

[sonic gale]

Mobility or Warp resis on a blaze sword?

[near wyvern]

Crits apply double stacks and given how Soulblaze has exponential scaling for the first 10 stacks it's a lot of DPS

[unkempt hare]

Also I feel purgs strong suit isn't heavies it's horde clear

[patent steeple]

btw, is there a decent (or even good) melee psyker build I can try to copy?

[patent wing]

it may take 1 second longer lol

[clear heath]

anyways how much does penetrating flames help against dreg ragers?

that's probably a more relevant situation

[analog agate]

Yeah. I told you that a while ago haha

[fresh reef]

You mean scab Ragers?

[analog solstice]

we're not talking about single targeting down a crusher, but blasting a stack of them or one or two in a big gathering of enemies, without penetrating flames you cannot really kill them at all

[clear heath]

no i meant dreg, but sure lets hear both if you happen to know

[patent wing]

guys its also a team game - crushers will die faster with PF

than with nexus

[summer prairie]

it's kind of goofy that you can just spam min charge purg to stack blaze away indefinitely

[fresh reef]

Dreg doesn't do much cuz maniac, but scab die a little bit faster if you're flaming them with m2

[clear heath]

the fact that purg sucks against maniac is why i'm expecting penetrating flames to affect them more

[patent wing]

it does

[clear heath]

because it would help against their garbage values against the armor type

[frigid sparrow]

So we're discussing BA + Nexus vs BA + PF?

on purge

[analog agate]

Didn’t they change the amount maniac is affected in this update?

[hollow jolt]

Sadly it does almost nothing for you

[near wyvern]

Maniac is 1.0 so +20% brittleness will add 5% damage

[hollow jolt]

But it helps your team

[analog solstice]

i tried changing out penetrating flames with nexus

-Nexus = 11,5 full casts of rmb
-PF = 5,2 full casts of rmb

[clear heath]

damn that sucks

[analog solstice]

to kill a crusher

[near wyvern]

That's a nice table

[hollow jolt]

Indeed, its been very helpful c:

[clear heath]

anyways I think using pf to support teammates or your melee is a valid usecase
I'm still just triggered by the idea of taking cara on your purg staff

[analog agate]

The overall thing is… why are you using purg to kill a crusher in the first place

Sorry. inferno

[frigid sparrow]

I'm not, I want to soak it so my friend can kill it

[hollow jolt]

Well its not like its JUST crushers

[sonic gale]

which one should i invest into

[fresh reef]

You aren't. You're using it to kill the trash and maulers around it

[hollow jolt]

Its never just "a" crusher in Darktide...

[analog solstice]

To burn them down along with everything else, cloud radius is big

[fresh reef]

Killing crushers in less than 10,000 years is a nice bonus to have though

[summer prairie]

it's still a very bad way to deal dps compared to just running nexus

[analog agate]

You guys do you. But nexus is going to be better

[hollow jolt]

Blaze Away + Nexus is a safe combo

[analog solstice]

It will be of some help to every unit type, not just crushers

[hollow jolt]

Can't go wrong with that

[summer prairie]

oh even lmb stacks blaze away, certainly working as intended

[hollow jolt]

Lol

[frigid sparrow]

Blaze Away vs Penetrating?

[analog solstice]

Im gonna try blaze and pf and see how it goes in a real match

[patent wing]

how did u calculate that

[hollow jolt]

Rending gives +0.25% damage if you ignore all armor

[clear heath]

I'm surprised soulblaze is 1.0 on maniac tbh. Thought it was a lot less

[hollow jolt]

So 20% * 0.25

[hollow jolt]

Ikr

[analog solstice]

If u try it in meat grinder PF doubles ur dps against crushers

[patent wing]

1. its also a teamwide buff
2. it can kill 12+ crushers in that time
3. rmb stacks really fast anyway

[near wyvern]

Brittleness and rending will first increase your armour modifier to 1.0 and any spill over % after that increases your damage by spill over % / 4

[hollow jolt]

Handcannon on Purg staff when?

I want my 15% damage buff UwU

[analog solstice]

PF gotta be a little helpful on monsters too 🤔

[patent wing]

also dont forget straight up staff dmg that is boosted too

not only soulblaze

[hollow jolt]

Indeed

[near wyvern]

@patent wing also unarmoured and infested are not affected by rending and brittleness at all regardless of your modifiers

[patent wing]

what really would be interesting is a table how fast one can reach max stacks with and without nexus

[hollow jolt]

I always found that really weird

[patent wing]

am aware of that

[near wyvern]

And one final thing people seem to forget, mettle procs on nexus purga is naughty

[late sapphire]

failed new mission by one second because the idiots wouldnt smash the cogitators 😭

[patent wing]

but we have souldrinker now
future is now

[summer prairie]

if you are using purg properly the stack procs from nexus matter quite a bit because you are spinning around wildly and not just focusing on a small arc

[near wyvern]

Well they have no armour to rend or make brittle 🤷

[patent wing]

id like to keep my sanity

[summer prairie]

fair

[hollow jolt]

Meanwhile bolters had 50% damage vs infested for months

[clear heath]

idk if someone rended my skin, i'd probably take more damage

[near wyvern]

Mettle for before, soulstealer and drinker for the after care

[near wyvern]

Rotten flesh is so... rotten the rounds just go through and don't explode.

[hollow jolt]

Should have paid extra for the good bolter rounds 😔

[clear heath]

anyways how's laspistol psyker these days?

[hollow jolt]

Psycannon bolts for psyker when?

[near wyvern]

It was good before the update and we got more power creep so I assume still in a good state

[clear heath]

wanna try making laspistol build later cause it's like the only gun with a psyker interaction (laspush), which is cool

i assume it has only gotten better since the patch

[weary crane]

Now that would be good

[near wyvern]

Handcannon would make carapace worth it

[upper sun]

both

[frigid sparrow]

@near wyvern Whats your opinion on Purge perks?

[upper sun]

we got blaze away

[hollow jolt]

I'm greedy though

[near wyvern]

If you go ult spam take 5% crit chance and +25% unyielding, if you go infinite pumping you take +25% maniac & flak

[sonic coral]

which dueling sword is the one with the wild heavies again? is that the IV?

[narrow herald]

"wild"? 😰

[late sapphire]

its good im playing laspistol chaxe right now

[patent wing]

25% more dmg is 25% more dmg

[sonic coral]

"Really good," if you prefer

[upper sun]

4 has direct pokie havies
2 has a mix of both
5 has a big ass swing easy to land but less damage

[narrow herald]

Really good? 😏

[plucky flax]

@fresh reef First time train rider here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlvj3pmg4SU

[frigid sparrow]

I'm using gaze and try to hover high quell?

[sonic coral]

Perfect, thanks!

[upper sun]

hi make ds marty zealot video thankjs

[near wyvern]

Bad DPS * 1.25 is still bad DPS

[near wyvern]

For infinite pump?

[frigid sparrow]

Idk what that means

I'm assuming you're talking about using smite for long periods of time?

[plucky flax]

Hrm would not run marty. Would go peity.

[narrow herald]

Wait people use Gaze with Smite?

[near wyvern]

Nope

[plucky flax]

Then go rampage+ precog and duellist.

[near wyvern]

I will make video about it and it should come out tomorrow

[quick tulip]

Not the normies at least

[frigid sparrow]

I'm not using smite. I'm using "Inferno staff" with gaze for the additional crit chance. I like stacking lots of soulblaze and making it spread.

[fresh reef]

You'd only use smite and gaze together if you wanted to take Psykinetic's Aura and Malefic Momentum in the same build

[near wyvern]

No reason to do that over Creeping Flames, smite can't crit

[crisp yacht]

I take it on gunker just to grab psykinetic aura. But very rarely actually use smite.

[narrow herald]

Then what is the infinite pumping? 🤔

[quick tulip]

It's a panic button

A good room maker

[fresh reef]

Smite should have a cooldown 👍

[clear heath]

smite should just be reworked

[narrow herald]

Smite should

[fresh reef]

Smite

[narrow herald]

S

[fresh reef]

🤮

[near wyvern]

Battle meditation, take the -40 peril resist node and use BA on infernus staff and keep doing low RMB charges. 60 roll on quell speed and 80 on the rest, you will never need to manually quell during fights

[mossy oyster]

smite should smite you on use

https://tenor.com/view/smite-roblox-admin-command-gif-23641814

[clear heath]

wouldn't you want longer charges for BA? Or are your charges short enough to keep the stacks up?

[narrow herald]

Is BA actually good on it now?

[summer prairie]

you get to 5 stacks almost immediately with min charges

and never drop them

[near wyvern]

Short charges keep it up permanently. You can also quell for a few ticks between LMB to keep the stacks up and make peril go down.

[summer prairie]

alternatively you can do one long charge first and then min charges I guess

[narrow herald]

Yes but is it better than Nexus

[near wyvern]

You take BA and nexus and forget about flurry

[narrow herald]

Why wouldn't I want brittle on the purge staff?

[fresh reef]

Good ol opportunity cost

[clear heath]

because there's 2 good blessings competing with it

[upper sun]

i think blaze nexus is better

[near wyvern]

#psyker-class message

[upper sun]

numbers vs "i feel" statments

[narrow herald]

That's some pathetic brittle 😭

[upper sun]

heh youre not winning this one boss

[narrow herald]

But is it maybe viable into crushers?

[upper sun]

not by much

[clear heath]

you won't kill crushers fast enough anyways

at best, you could brittle and swap to melee

[analog agate]

Audiophile community intensifies

[near wyvern]

Negligible DPS boosted is still negligible DPS

[narrow herald]

Why can't it be rending? 😔

[near wyvern]

Pull out that uncanny melee and deal with it

[clear heath]

I still want to try a build where i just play a melee build with purg just to support it through brittle and soulblaze talents

[upper sun]

rending is far better than brittle

[summer prairie]

5s of brittle though

[narrow herald]

Onslaught seems to work for vets, but that is 40% at max stacks

[late sapphire]

Ok i have come to hate new map

[summer prairie]

even as melee support it's not good

[near wyvern]

40% is something, 20% and less is nothing

[upper sun]

is the framerate drop issue fixed?

[near wyvern]

Possible but far from optimal

[analog agate]

Preach

[narrow herald]

Why Fatshark, why not give me the attack everything in front of me and forget about it staff? 😔

[analog agate]

New map has ruined quickplay. Which I also hate

[near wyvern]

Voidblast aka Trauma

[late sapphire]

I just hate these people i swear to god

I completely carry and we still lose because someone has to do the event

[analog agate]

Ya. But who wants to spend the map doing that boring event? Bad game design imo

[patent wing]

i could get it down to 11 sec ttk

[near wyvern]

I came to bleed not to read

[narrow herald]

Aiming
Psyker

Pick one 😔

[late sapphire]

so ofc i do event

[fresh reef]

Do the main objective, team dies because they can't play the game

Play the game, team dies because they do chip damage to the things you're actually killing instead of doing the objective

[clear heath]

yeah but it would also be a melee build with the other soulblaze tree benefits like...
uh, 5% crit rate

and warp charges

[near wyvern]

In an actual scenario or crazy buff stacking

[late sapphire]

but every 3s i have to turn around to save em

[patent wing]

6 warp charges and combat stim

[clear heath]

wow i could've sworn there were more soulblaze talents

[narrow herald]

I assume this is also cheeks for the flamer on Zealot?

[patent wing]

nothing unusual

[fresh reef]

"The sights on this gun are off, I can feel it."

"Oh don't worry about it. I don't really aim and I'm still enjoying myself!"

[patent wing]

i should try with the new scriers yikes

[near wyvern]

6 Warp Charges is reasonable, combat stim not. And under those buffs my knife would cut it in a few stabs

[patent wing]

yeah but i can kill 12 of them at once

[near wyvern]

Just gotta find that stim first...

[patent wing]

im gonna keep it as treasury if i find it

[near wyvern]

The swap to Deimos seems still like a better strategy for that

To stack the uncanny for soulblaze on one special

[clear heath]

i think in 11 seconds, that 12 crusher horde is still able to walk from purg's max range to your face

[near wyvern]

And you don't need to sacrifice a blessing slot for it

[patent wing]

yeah sure, i mean the brittleness stays a bit, also boosts deimos dmg

nexus is not gud anyway

an does not buff team

[feral knoll]

How are my siblings enjoying the new talent tree

[patent wing]

ah goddamn i forgot i cant move

[near wyvern]

Nexus not good? My sibling is definitely possessed by the warp

[clear heath]

Idk, i'd like to actually progress forward in the mission instead of backwards from the crushers but maybe progress is overrated

[patent wing]

please some1 find us a table with stack speed with and without nexus

[narrow herald]

I'm thinking something like this for my new purge build:

[patent wing]

how many ticks a full rmb offers? 16?

[near wyvern]

Depends on your crit chance

But usually 1.5 pumps to top it up with nexus

[late sapphire]

tbh i think nexus kinda sucks on purg

[frigid sparrow]

How in the world does that spam work?

[patent wing]

yeah lets say 12,5

[late sapphire]

i have never been at high peril with purg

[clear heath]

What was the crit rate of nexus again? 20%?

[late sapphire]

you have to actively upkeep your perils

[fresh reef]

5-20% peril dependant

[near wyvern]

My kinda psyker

[frigid sparrow]

I find myself sitting at 50-60% a lot

Just riding that line, keeping the engine warm

[fresh reef]

Though I think that the minimum 5 functions regardless of peril?

Don't know if they changed that

[clear heath]

realistically you'll probably end up stacking things like 10% faster with nexus

[plucky flax]

What spam?

[near wyvern]

But stacks have exponential scaling

[frigid sparrow]

The puff quell bit? I've been trying it and I don't get it

[clear heath]

which is more than 10% more dps because it's not linear

[clear heath]

yeah that

[plucky flax]

Oh you left click press r then repeat.

It's quell cancel tech.

[near wyvern]

AND more mettle procs

[eager token]

so is the game super easy now

haven’t played yet, might tonight/tomorrow

[near wyvern]

It's a bit weird timing, you gotta hold quell button for a tiny bit right after cast but not for too long

[analog agate]

Watching your stuff is so funny to me haha. Watching a UI simulator

[clear heath]

they added the train mission if you want a 10 minute rush of difficulty

[near wyvern]

There was power creep introduced yes, but it's still plenty of challlenge if you go carry randoms

There were a lot of new talent nodes. Some good, some garbo and at least one completely busted

[analog agate]

Atm. Game is hard again because bad people are doing auric/mael. And on top of that bad people now are doing really weird build shit haha

[near wyvern]

Gamers gotta experiment

[mossy oyster]

the new soyker talents though

gunker supremacy

[clear heath]

I've been actually exploding in games because it has been over half a year since i've played

so i'm here to make the games harder as well

don't worry, i will preserve the difficulty

[mossy oyster]

I'll say this

[near wyvern]

If you never explode you will never know your true limits

[mossy oyster]

praise the emperor soyker got some fucking attack speed

it doesnt feel like dog shite to use a knife now

[near wyvern]

The bad thing is there are many good talents for staves behind the attack speed node causing you to waste a point to access stuff

[mossy oyster]

oh im using those nodes on my gunker

like the soulblaze / cleave one

[eager token]

gotcha. i’ll see how it goes

[mossy oyster]

im thinking of swapping the soul blaze one though

[eager token]

new talents and stuff will be fun to experiment with for a bit

[near wyvern]

If you haven't been spamming the push attack on knife as a Psyker before the update, you have been doing it all wrong. If you aren't doing it now, you are still doing it all wrong.

[mossy oyster]

im a zealot main

who plays soyker

gunker

like a zealot

of course ive been spamming PA

[eager token]

rashad got buffed on zealot when it was already really good

[mossy oyster]

rashad got buffed in general

[near wyvern]

Duelling Swords go brr

[fresh reef]

It's a whole 10%. Is it really that much faster?

[patent wing]

so great that scriers peril protection doesnt work on purga

[mossy oyster]

as an avid melee user

yes

its noticeable enough for me

[near wyvern]

For combat axes it actually makes a difference

[mossy oyster]

if you use DS4 i doubt you'll tell a difference

but on stuff like knife/axes/etc

[near wyvern]

Illisi will also make a lot good use out of the 10% attack speed

[mossy oyster]

feels good

[fresh reef]

I was gonna play Deimos today. That always felt kinda clunky to me, so I'll see if it helps

[devout sluice]

what are your thoughts on new purgatus blessings

[near wyvern]

BA + nexus is new BiS

[devout sluice]

BA is which one?

[plucky flax]

I'm built different.

[near wyvern]

Strength on continuous casting

[mossy oyster]

heres my crackhead contraption I was running all last night cause its really fun

[summer prairie]

maybe you can get +40% power assail by throwing a bunch and then quickly lmb stacking blaze away. Too fiddly probably

[mossy oyster]

I also swap out the Dbarrel for this now

space cowboy is quite fun

[summer prairie]

if you quell cancel you get the stacks very quickly though

[near wyvern]

Too much trouble and the timing will be extremely tight if even possible at all

[devout sluice]

i asume it's one of these then

[patent wing]

whyyyy

[devout sluice]

no wait

that's voidstrike

[blissful solar]

is it possible for an item to be born with 80's on everything (except for the one dump stat) before being empowered?

[summer prairie]

sure

[devout sluice]

blaze away

this one?

[near wyvern]

This ain't the purgatus page

[near wyvern]

Yes blaze away

[devout sluice]

alr will try later

[narrow herald]

Does reality anchor also slow down the peril gain from SG?

[mossy oyster]

I just wish I knew if im killing shit too fast/efficient as gunker to get real use out of souldrinker

(I dont think souldrinker pops up when it procs)

[near wyvern]

Yes it extends it by 1 to 2 seconds

If you do nothing

[mossy oyster]

oh wait

I can cheat as gunker

lmfao

brain dead easy to have this up now

cause scriers new node

dunno how I glanced over this before

[near wyvern]

Reload spam

Until you have no bullets

[mossy oyster]

ok I like this setup for gunker

[near wyvern]

But to be fair with assails and the reload you can keep peril up

[patent mango]

man that mod is crazy for info

[mossy oyster]

knowledge is power sibling

[near wyvern]

Notice you keep generating peril on reload even when above 75% but won't get the reload speed buff then

[patent mango]

its true...

[mossy oyster]

I dont have the reload talent cause

im a damage maxxer

and I cant really see giving up any other point for it

[narrow herald]

Gubker like this?

[near wyvern]

Chance to quell on marked target kill is a wasted node point. That's on average 3% quelling per marked target kill.

[mossy oyster]

yea its pretty ass

[narrow herald]

I don't know where to put it

[jovial juniper]

Yeah and you can use it so you don't lose too much peril gen reduction

[near wyvern]

Put it on a stat node then

[mossy oyster]

just put it on the overloading scriers node

[narrow herald]

Kk

[mossy oyster]

if you wanna get the max efficiency/abuse Warp Rider / One with the Warp

since you wont blow up from doing anything warp related for 10 seconds at 100%

[patent steeple]

ok, I have made a meleeker build. Any advice on what to replace with which?

[narrow herald]

Yeah but what will I do that will overcap the peril?

[mossy oyster]

if its melee id swap out the ranged dmg node for the TDR one, and crack of bone for one with the warp

[narrow herald]

Maybe blocking?

[mossy oyster]

scriers just gets you to 100 and you can randomly shoot smite to make it faster

[narrow herald]

Wait does it work with KD?

[near wyvern]

Taking the shock on heavy + enfeeble for smite nodes makes your follow up melee attacks to have 10% more damage. It's a bit of a waste though as it costs 2 points.

[mossy oyster]

yes

I blocked an entire horde reviving last night

[narrow herald]

Nuff said chief

[mossy oyster]

with scriers overloading node

at 100% peril

for a free revive

[near wyvern]

Lmao

[patent steeple]

hmmm... didn't know about that interaction... still, I won't be running that combo because its a waste of points like you said.

[near wyvern]

I guess that's a way to solve the resource starvation problem

[narrow herald]

Deflection Deimos/Isilli is back in meta?????

[near wyvern]

Deflector won't work on revive though

[mossy oyster]

also if you're going scriers

ngl

I think crack of bone is a waste of a point/ counter intuitive

if ya ask me

the point of scriers + the new overloading node is to just abuse 100% warp bonuses

even more than it used to be

[near wyvern]

It's only really useful if you do an illisi special spam

[mossy oyster]

I do not like melee weakspots quelling on kill seems very counter productive

yeah I can see that

but since im using non warp stuff besides assail I dont find a use for it

[patent wing]

devs already know that purge staff can explode even with the node that should prevent it?

[patent steeple]

I thought it would be a good idea to keep SG running for as long as possible in melee, hence why I took Crack of Bone...

[narrow herald]

I'm not taking crack?

[late sapphire]

surge does it too

[patent wing]

peak coding

[mossy oyster]

not you

[near wyvern]

Working as intended

[mossy oyster]

its a general statement

and someone else was taking crack of bone for their melee gunker

[narrow herald]

Kk 👍

[patent wing]

[narrow herald]

What about TTS?

[near wyvern]

Just to be clear that was /s

[mossy oyster]

if I didnt love warp splitting giving free cleave to everything

i'd take the scriers endurance node

and abuse TDR out the ass

lmfao

tank gunker moment

[topaz matrix]

Is the 10 seconds of post SG really better than staying in SG? I think crack of the bone is worth it

[patent wing]

anyway i cant test it but lets say scriers offers the same dmg as a combat stim, than id have 11 sec TTK for a crusher pack and WITH combat stimm it could be around 8 sec

[upper sun]

damn

unironically lost new mission 3 times in a row

[mossy oyster]

considering you will be having these up

yes

[patent wing]

u guys are already playing not testing?

[mossy oyster]

the non overloading node keeping these up to their maximum boost

is pretty crazy

[upper sun]

testing?

[mossy oyster]

after a SG use

[narrow herald]

What about TTR?

[upper sun]

nah ill figure it out on the go

[patent wing]

i live in the psykhaneum

[near wyvern]

And at that point a Deimos or DS4 would probably one shot

[topaz matrix]

Sure but you will still get like 70% of the value while in SG

[upper sun]

I hate seponi

im switching to a chainweapon

or

OR

a ds

[summer prairie]

all the peril reduction also does this (even better with DSV I guess) https://streamable.com/m6od7y

[mossy oyster]

the scriers gaze still lingers

after it ends

[summer prairie]

also wasn't using SG for more reduction

[mossy oyster]

I think its just up to you whether you want to stay in scriers

or abuse 100% warp bonuses

but id like to know where the 70% "value" would be coming from

considering the effect stays even after it ends

[patent wing]

it does not unless using dd

[jovial juniper]

You know clad is as true hater when doesn't even type Sefoni right

[jovial juniper]

Depends

[summer prairie]

you can now simultaneously tank like 4 demonhosts

[upper sun]

yes

[jovial juniper]

Lmao

[mossy oyster]

clad finally tried out gloriana

and liked it

fucking hate that guy

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-krabby-patty-smug-spongebob-squarepants-gif-9547716225990610286

[untold niche]

hey guys

is therea fix for numeric ui

[fast frost]

https://tenor.com/view/sunakook-cat-screaming-gif-25279230

Me when all my talents reset

[jovial juniper]

Trees changed

[mossy oyster]

run n gun was the best thing they added to DBarrel

(besides the mastery skin)

[upper sun]

ok

the new mission is dogshit

[fast frost]

For everyone or just psyker?

[upper sun]

they need to add stretch timers

as in u get more time after you defuse the bomb

[jovial juniper]

Vets
Psykers
Ogryns

[fast frost]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-holding-head-cat-sad-cat-rahh-wahhhh-gif-11843610789762008433

I have like 15 loadouts I need to redo

[jovial juniper]

Lmao (same)

[jovial juniper]

RnG surge staff

[fast frost]

Urgh man this sucks I don’t have time to redo all my characters rn

[mossy oyster]

idk you need to experience the power

of having true aim + manstopper + DD stacks + scriers

and just sprinting and 1 shotting 8 shotgunners

[fast frost]

Is there anything interesting new with talent changes?

[mossy oyster]

and can just keep on running and hot swap to melee or assail

[kindred chasm]

how do u feel about very cleavey assail

[mossy oyster]

run n gun DBarrel feels smooth as butter

also helps they fixed the camera snapping bug

when hot swapping

[jovial juniper]

Yes, too much to explain though

[patent wing]

@near wyvern when comparing flurry w nexus in terms of stacking speed, 1 cast always gets me to 16/17 dmg per tick (cast over 75 peril)

[narrow herald]

What blessings yall go for gunker DS? 🤔

[jovial juniper]

I haven't tried gunker yet so I can't help

[lethal lagoon]

The scoreboard is bugged

[mental grail]

I don't use ds on gunker

[mossy oyster]

I use DS on scriers voidstaff

[upper sun]

WHO THE FUCK PLAYTESTED THE NEW MISSION

[fast frost]

What is weapon wield speed?

[upper sun]

the timer is unironically 3 minutes too short

[mossy oyster]

you're just 3 minutes too slow

[mental grail]

just be faster

[mossy oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[mental grail]

literally

[upper sun]

its hard with no chainweapons

[mossy oyster]

said the rashad user

profoundly

[mental grail]

"skill gap between siblings evident"

[mossy oyster]

and we're supposed to be siblings

riiiiiiiight

[upper sun]

hes from fathers oopsie

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-gimme-give-it-here-i-want-yours-too-give-it-to-me-gif-23909822

[late sapphire]

man assail psyker is so thoughtless and easy