psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

Everyone had theirs reset because of tree changes

[vapid sand]

oh glad it aint just a bug again

[hard hamlet]

heya psykers, do we have a verdict on the heavy sword, what do yall think of it

[fair rover]

just need more finesse. regardless fun against hoards

[potent echo]

What's the verdict

[nocturne dust]

See I don't really like shriek

[potent echo]

Just use it or don't

[feral knoll]

Any reccomendations for SG with a staff?

[potent echo]

Bring anti carapace/unyielding gun and you gucci

[nocturne dust]

I never liked the heavy sword on Zealot, lol. Don't think I'll like it on Psyker.

[potent echo]

You can do a copium BR build and say you can deal with crushers and bosses

[nocturne dust]

You can do really stupid stuff with voidstrike + warp splitting + SG + peril gen red build

[potent echo]

But in your heart you know that duelling sword would dumpster it

[hard hamlet]

BR?

[potent echo]

BB, BR, Twitter, X, trauma, Voidblast

[feral knoll]

I personally never liked Voidsteike so this might spice it up

[jovial juniper]

Transfer peril Voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

Nah, if you don't like voidstrike maybe don't bother, lol. It's still voidstrike, it's just better.

[feral knoll]

Still

[jovial juniper]

Surge staff Nexus

High peril gaming

[potent echo]

Voidstrike is psyker plasma

[magic kayak]

Anyone else trying to use the -40% peril gen? With surge staff it's basically infinite lightning

[potent echo]

It kill everything (except bosses)

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[magic kayak]

I'm using it with toughness regen curios but not sure if it interacts that way

Figure it can't hurt though

[nocturne dust]

might kill bosses now

[jovial juniper]

I can stay on Scrier's for longer with that

[potent echo]

Toughness Regen curios only affects coherency regen

[magic kayak]

Ok that's what I thought but I figured it would help regen faster either way I guess

[potent echo]

Nah if you gaze and duelling sword the boss is die

[fair rover]

ok much better now

[potent echo]

Don't even need the bowling balls

[magic kayak]

no uncanny with illisi?

[potent echo]

Bloodthirsty is a meme

[nocturne dust]

crit dmg

[potent echo]

Critical damage is a meme too

[nocturne dust]

The sword is the meme

look at those perks

[potent echo]

But you can't brick weapons anymore so it's

[magic kayak]

lol yeah wow

[fair rover]

are you sure. i can now deal with hoards spamming the special without gaining peril

[magic kayak]

anyone want to beat train? pugs are going crazy in this map

[nocturne dust]

....you couldn't do this before?

[young summit]

Pugs on train are pain

A lot of returning players it feels like

[potent echo]

Feelings/vibes > maths

[magic kayak]

I'm with a +0 ogrin on auric damnation train...

[nocturne dust]

The train should not be in quickplay

[fair rover]

this makes it easier. so i dont have to have the other blessing on the sword

[nocturne dust]

...you could just quell

[fair rover]

and i can just continue fighting normally in a hoard

[nocturne dust]

You can do that anyway

[fair rover]

yes. with the build im using, i can do that

[nocturne dust]

You can also do it without that build and those perks, lol.

You do you, but it's definitely not sensible imo.

[fair rover]

but i can constantly fight without needing to quell manually

[nocturne dust]

Why would that be an issue in the slightest?

[fair rover]

i can deal with hoards more effectively. i have constant uptime

i dont have to waste time

[nocturne dust]

Illisi already eats hoards. It should give you more than plenty of breathing room to quell. You don't need constant uptime. Quelling doesn't even take long.

[hard solstice]

So after running a mission with it, flamethrower staf with new brittleness perk seems to be pretty good. Always somewhat hard to tell how much of a difference brittleness is actually mkaing for the team

[potent echo]

Crack of bone is crazy for melee/assail/staff

2 procs for 1 cast

[hollow jolt]

Instant pick for Melee Only maelstroms at least

[foggy breach]

i think i have to agree

[potent echo]

Barely much

[nocturne dust]

The brittleness is aight.

[late sapphire]

shriek is peak

it rhymes so its right

[nocturne dust]

shriek is weak

it rhymes so its right

[late sapphire]

sobbing rn

[potent echo]

Damn

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark buff shriek, it weak

[hard solstice]

isn't brittleness applying armor penetration stacks specifically onto the enemy itself, making all damage against them rending by that percentage? If I recall, I heard that rending increases DoT damage, so it would directly help your flame DoT deal more damage?

[potent echo]

Press F to screen clear

[hollow jolt]

Make shriek give yellow toughness for 15 sec

[summer prairie]

crack of bone isn't melee only?

[potent echo]

Yes but soulblaze already has a 1.0 modifier against most armor types

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but keep in mind your ttk for crushers (the main problem) goes from like infinite to... a good 30 seconds or so

[hollow jolt]

It definitely helps but its more a question if its better than the alternatives

[potent echo]

So it only really benefits against a single matchup, crushers

[hollow jolt]

Opportunity cost is high sadly

Purg staff has a lot of good options

[potent echo]

And even then it's only 20% increase from like 0.1 to 0.3

[potent echo]

Yes

[hard solstice]

fair enough, i guess at least even if it barely helps you, you can literally apply a 20% armor penetration debuff to an entire horde in seconds to help out your team

[crisp yacht]

is low warp res build still a thing for illisi?

[nocturne dust]

Well, the staff will kill the horde first.

[potent echo]

Brittleness doesn't work on unarmored and infested armor types btw

So it won't really help against hordes lol

[hollow jolt]

To be fair, Purg staff shouldn't really care about hordes in the first place

[nocturne dust]

At best, it will help your team down a crusher pack, but... most good teams on auric will eat that pack long before your brittleness will really matter

[potent echo]

Just pick blaze away and

End atoma

Blazeaway nexus no contest

[azure karma]

"Failed to join server" bruh

[feral knoll]

Oh yeah. The Catachan sword with SG felt awesome

[hard solstice]

well, I guess I mean more, that pack of maulers and/or crushers within the horde. Sure trash poxwalkers don't need any AP, but being able to hose down a whole room with the AP might still be helpful I hope

[nocturne dust]

I use terrifying barrage and showstopper perk because I like having my staff out more

[potent echo]

[hard solstice]

Welp, the awesome thing about this update is, now I can freely, for a quite negligible cost, swap over to both of those blessing and give it a spin to see how it feels. I love this newfound freedom to experiment

[azure karma]

Why am I failing to join server

Fown?

Down?

[hollow jolt]

I wish I could dual-wield staffs

[hard solstice]

So you'd like to explode yourself twice as fast huh

[feral knoll]

Catachan sword on SG against a horde feels like a human lawnmower

[hollow jolt]

I have the -40% peril gen node

I'm fine

[nocturne dust]

stacks peril gen red

[hard solstice]

I could see a funny suicide bomber build with dual wield

[azure karma]

Blaze away any good on purg?

[potent echo]

Definitely

[magic kayak]

the - peril gen makes your toughness disappear like my father when he went to get the milk

[hollow jolt]

If they can use poxbursters, why can't we use psyker bombs?

[nocturne dust]

probably BiS

[potent echo]

Brittleness doesn't help much for soulblaze

[nocturne dust]

Psyker already has crazy toughness regen, a good psyker is fine

[hollow jolt]

Its toughness regeneration, historically hasn't that always been only Coherency regen

[magic kayak]

From what I can tell it reduces toughness gain of any source

[nocturne dust]

no, it's toughness generation on everything

[teal needle]

I've forgotten so much of how this game works. Does 'Blast Radius' matter on Voidstrike?

[magic kayak]

its a big hit too

[split lance]

Yeah. Literally only time ur toughness is done for is if ur in a hallway and 10 gunners turn around while ur quelling

[nocturne dust]

Psyker has a big regen tank

Psyker is fine

[hollow jolt]

Ah rip

[nocturne dust]

it's the dump stat, so technically yes

[nocturne dust]

Not RIP, I literally didn't even notice it on any staff build

[azure karma]

Bruh? I clicked select track in mastery, but I can't claim anything and I have 0 points even though I'm mastery 9

[summer prairie]

I think I'd still rather dump WR

[magic kayak]

ok well besides deadvoid I can assure you its a big hit

[nocturne dust]

I mean, depends on how you want peril to be

[magic kayak]

you need to build around it for most people

[nocturne dust]

Lol

[hollow jolt]

I know but it would have been neat if it was coherency only like it is for curios

[magic kayak]

some builds don't go for as much toughness regen as psyker can technically get

[nocturne dust]

I'm just a decent auric dam player, I'm not a lunatic that can solo it or anything

[hollow jolt]

Clearly a solo maelstrom player UwU

[magic kayak]

I'm only +100 psyker and can reliably complete audic dam and I'm just giving honest experience that you will notice the difference

[hard solstice]

so based on everyone saying brittlness is basically useless for soulblaze, redning is effectively the same thing and would also be useless right? Making the "Penetration of the Soul" perk not worth it?

[nocturne dust]

with no talent points used and minimum power weapons, clearly

[magic kayak]

that being said, you'll definitely also notice the reduced peril generation

[hollow jolt]

Well unless you just hate crushers

[nocturne dust]

It's not useless, it's just contending with nexus

[hollow jolt]

Its just high opportunity cost

You lose out on a lot of other things

[hard solstice]

yeah, I'm questioning it's value cause i want to try nexus

[magic kayak]

yeah when you consider how much damage soulblaze does, rending isn't going to make much difference compared to what you lose by not using nexus

[hollow jolt]

I mean just make multiple

I have 3 plasma guns now

[summer prairie]

just need 4 purg users and then you can have 90% rending (?)

[teal needle]

Is surge or soulblaze better for trauma?

[nocturne dust]

not sure it stacks

In fact, I would assume it doesn't

[magic kayak]

I think the reason train is so tough is, you have this massive hallway where snipers can shoot you from 2 cars back almost and most groups seem to split up, dont handle horde behind them, or rush too far forward and its a big mess lol

[magic kayak]

surge is not good on trauma or... voidblast as they call it now

it only doubles the LMB attack not the rmb...

[teal needle]

Whaaat when did they change that

[nocturne dust]

never

It's always been that way

surge only works on 1 staff's RMB: voidstrike

[magic kayak]

yep, the only one that doubles up rmb is the voidstrike

because reaons

[teal needle]

Oh, I got voidblast and voidstrike confused because

The new name sucks

[nocturne dust]

because surge doubles projectiles

and only voidstrike uses projectiles

for rmb

[patent jacinth]

You have to split them manually for them to do much of anything though

[nocturne dust]

although it definitely doesn't have to be that way, Fatshark

[magic kayak]

I hope they change names again to, blue flame staff, pikachu staff, boom boom stick, and ki blast staff

so we can understand

[nocturne dust]

You mean Hadouken staff

[magic kayak]

hah yes, and better give us SF transmogs

thank god they haven't done any crossover bs

[teal needle]

WTF does blaze away do on purgatus staff

[magic kayak]

Although I could totally go for a Rick and Morty Psyker transmog

It wastes a blessing slot

[patent jacinth]

GW would never let them

[hollow jolt]

Hopefully something c:

[trail jewel]

whose tryna run the train mission on damnation?

[teal needle]

GW will let 40k games crossover with each other. Nothing really makes sense to cross danktide with though

[magic kayak]

Me

[trail jewel]

who else we got?

[magic kayak]

They should cross over with the orcs and let us be space orks

[hollow jolt]

Darktide x Fire Warrior

It'll make sense trust me

[late sapphire]

3 crushers climbed up a ledge straight into me 😭

[nocturne dust]

work off charge %

[magic kayak]

Darktide x Dustborn

[late sapphire]

just jumped up and i was stuck

[magic kayak]

🧐

[nocturne dust]

You are being crushed. Do not resist, corpse worshipper.

[nocturne dust]

CAPTAIN TITUS GONNA SHOW UP and stand around in the background while our team of nameless nobodies do all the important boss fights. Again.

[potent echo]

Janitor work is important

[hollow jolt]

Titus dies to a poxwalker because he missed his pistol execute

[potent echo]

We need to keep the toilets flushable

[magic kayak]

anyone else noticing stuffer more now? I go from 120 fps to 20 sometimes lol

[nocturne dust]

Check your graphics setting

[potent echo]

Make sure your fsr3.1fg is turned off

Also shader complication yadayada

[nocturne dust]

Dunno how I wrote 'just' instead of 'check', lol

[magic kayak]

ok let me check, never really had a problem before

[potent echo]

They forced it on for everyone

[magic kayak]

yep I see it on now -_-

[potent echo]

I'm pretty sure there was some money/favours involved

The patchnotes had a whole marketing bit for it, it's kinda cringe

[magic kayak]

I don't let AMD touch my machine

[potent echo]

Reee

[magic kayak]

lol

[hard solstice]

this right here. For some reason that bullshit was also preventing my framerate cap setting from working. It was literally overriding the Nvidia Control Panel app outside of the game too. Really odd.

[potent echo]

Yep

I just use RTSS

[magic kayak]

Sounds like malware lol. Honestly many authentic programs really overstep their bounds these days and who is going to stop them

[potent echo]

Nobody

Unless you start funding Linux development

[magic kayak]

😅

[nocturne dust]

stares in virtual sandbox environment

[azure karma]

Why is the next level of my blessing locked

[magic kayak]

we are small fish in a large sea of consumers who buy surface pros, macbook air, or just tablets lol

"ooooh touch screen"

[nocturne dust]

Apple still existing when they haven't sold a competitive product in millenia

[potent echo]

AMD FSR updated to 3.1
AMD FidelityFX™ Super Resolution 3 (FSR 3.1) is the latest evolution of AMDs advanced open-source upscaling technology. FSR 3 introduces cutting-edge frame generation technology, delivering significant framerate boosts in supported games, and a new “Native AA” quality mode for enhanced image quality.

[magic kayak]

go into inventory, go to mastery, then start unlocking for that weapon family

[potent echo]

Like who writes this

[hard solstice]

When I was a kid, I bought a pc game I really wanted to play (Sid Meier's Pirates) but it wouldn't run on my family's PC. So I saved up money all summer long and bought a $200 AMD graphics card for our PC just so I could run that game.

Within a year the graphics card had died.

Fuck AMD

[potent echo]

Latest evolution cutting edge lol lmao

[azure karma]

I did, I unlocked the first level but I can't do second

[magic kayak]

They transcended into designer wear from tech company somehow

[magic kayak]

You have to put in enough points to that weapon family to unlock next tier

[azure karma]

O

[analog agate]

just did the void with sg build. It is very much in the viable, but just ok camp

[potent echo]

[nocturne dust]

They're the only thing making NVIDIA not completely ream you, so, y'know, be 'glad' they're a 'competitor'.

[nocturne dust]

lol, you need to work on your build then

[analog agate]

Happy to see blaze trauma still best staff build

[near wyvern]

A lot of work mate, will take several weeks before it is fully updated

[magic kayak]

blaze trauma is solid unless you're on the train and nobody on the team wants to help kill the 3 snipers shooting from 2 cars away

[analog agate]

I have near infinite sg up. It just isn't what blaze trauma can do

[magic kayak]

while you keep back the horde and the disablers

[potent echo]

WC on voidstrike

[magic kayak]

what melee do you like to use with blaze trauma?

[nocturne dust]

I mean, maybe if you compare it to blaze trauma, but I haven't used blaze trauma since I don't really like trauma

[near wyvern]

I run BB on my blaze trauma build just for the occasion so no problem

[nocturne dust]

are you using surge?

[potent echo]

Void kinda needs DD for some breakpoints

[nocturne dust]

Fake news

[magic kayak]

I have that too, the train one is tough though because it's hard to get a bead on snipers shooting through the doors with hordes coming in too

[potent echo]

True thoufh

Unless you say just crit lol

[nocturne dust]

just crit

[potent echo]

One shot ragers, one shot dreg gunners

[magic kayak]

I always run dd on my void build

[nocturne dust]

that's what SG is for

[potent echo]

But it's not 100%

[near wyvern]

Yup, also fun fact. The 100% on cleave on the right side seems to apply to everything. Including void balls.

[analog agate]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

yes

warp split them with void balls

[magic kayak]

well that seems better than I anticipated. That's true it does just say cleave doens't say melee specific

[analog agate]

It is one of the reasons I hate that fucking map. Grates and stairs everywhere

[potent echo]

The highest crit can go for void is like..

62.5%

At the max of the max

[magic kayak]

Yeah I'm not crazy about it, the angles are all over the place. Probably an actual map the psycho shield becomes more useful

[potent echo]

And that's only during gaze

[near wyvern]

BB locks onto the nearest head and all specials and elites except dog are taller than regular chaff. Jump, aim a bit above the headline and it will latch on like a magnet on your way down.

[nocturne dust]

just rapidfire balls, the way the God Emperor intended

[azure karma]

Someone send surge staff build

[potent echo]

You only get 42.5% during the afterglow

And that's also nexus void without flurry which means fewer casts during unbound

[primal yarrow]

does the smite talent crit?

[magic kayak]

I'll give it a shot for sure, I probably got boosted as all my pugs have been returning players. No hate on them but obviously this isn't a game you can come back months later and jump into auric and not lose a step for most players

[azure karma]

Mettle sucks now right

[potent echo]

It's still mettle

[nocturne dust]

Situational

[potent echo]

Just not facerolling good

[summer prairie]

for void/trauma/surge it's not good

[strong gulch]

ordos

[near wyvern]

None of the smite extra talents crit

[primal plume]

Flames blow up if you shoot their tank now

[potent echo]

You still need to take mettle anyway

[primal plume]

saw one with fire shooting out of it

then it went boom

[potent echo]

Anything is better than expenditure

[summer prairie]

I don't think so

[nocturne dust]

Si, we read the patch notes and played the game

[potent echo]

[nocturne dust]

well, some of us read the patch notes

[hollow jolt]

Flamers are mobile barrels now

[summer prairie]

expenditure is more than 2.5% with every shot, mettle is 5% on crits

[primal plume]

I dont read patch notes. Ruins the surprises

[magic kayak]

The emperor asked us to kill our foe not read the pages

[summer prairie]

plus expenditure works with e.g. passive SG gain

[nocturne dust]

Then why do we have a bible

[potent echo]

But you get nothing during unbound

[hollow jolt]

So if someone is carrying a med stim that you want...

[potent echo]

Also melee and mettle

[magic kayak]

lol it requires faith not reading 😁

[nocturne dust]

inb4 they eat the flamer and then use it to heal

[magic kayak]

I don't even verify my files

[strong gulch]

Also these 4 extra points are annoying because they are keeping a notification dot next to the masteries tab.

[feral knoll]

Gunker got everything I wanted it feels awesome

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark planning to add a blessing, right? ...right???

[azure karma]

Dd, ep, or warp siphon for surge staff?

[magic kayak]

Why do some people swear by wildfire? It can't possible be good unless it's bugged

[strong gulch]

dot forever

[magic kayak]

DD all day

lol kidding

[nocturne dust]

Wildfire is great with purgatus since it essentially gives you a free 4 stack starter for any horde

[analog agate]

Maybe there is an ok surge build without flurry. But atm I am staying away from that staff till the bug is fixed

[magic kayak]

I do use wildfire on purg, but not sure about on blaze trauma

[summer prairie]

run surge+nexus instead

[azure karma]

?

[analog agate]

You use wildfire with blaze trauma

[strong gulch]

Oh. I just noticed that the little flames from the candles in the blessings menu sway.

[magic kayak]

the problem with dd and surge is you can't reliably get a weakspot kill with it

[nocturne dust]

ew

[azure karma]

Oh

[strong gulch]

You still get damage boost.

[magic kayak]

dd works to build stacks fastest with weakspot kills, which the voidstrike does well

[azure karma]

Why do you need weakspot kills

[analog agate]

Exactly. I ain’t primary firing. It’s against my nature

[strong gulch]

And with surge lmb spam, there's more funnsies to run a surge DD build

[magic kayak]

because weakspot kills give 2 stacks of dd

[azure karma]

Ah

[summer prairie]

3 stacks

[magic kayak]

surge with inner tranquility is nice though, I've always run my surge with 6 stack WS

[strong gulch]

Don't forget that your melee exists too

[magic kayak]

ofc your mileage may vary

[azure karma]

Surge staff is bugged, how?

[magic kayak]

yeah I wouldn't mind a caxe with surge staff and dd

[analog agate]

Flurry is bugged

[magic kayak]

surge for single target, caxe for horde etc

[azure karma]

What's wrong with it

[strong gulch]

surge + warp flurry is bugged

idk if it's just that combo or flurry itself

[strong gulch]

has it been tested with other weapons?

[magic kayak]

im running this for blaze trauma, not sure how I feel yet

[analog agate]

I don’t know. I haven’t seen anyone say anything. I just know it doesn’t affect surge when I tried it and also, unless I do a full charge, qqing doesnt work on it either

[magic kayak]

empyric resolve almost feels like my peril goes up too slow

[magic kayak]

I also noticed I can't shriek on command with it

almost like animation of charging is locking me out

[inland snow]

[potent echo]

Void flurry works normally

[azure karma]

Yeah what is bugged about it

[magic kayak]

its only happening to me on surge, can't f on command and can't quell cancel easily

[potent echo]

It's just slow

[strong gulch]

huh alarming

[strong gulch]

updates really do hate surge I guess

[potent echo]

I think they were talking about it like 8 hours ago

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

Hello pygex. I wish you good mental health on this update and the subsequent hotfixes.

[near wyvern]

Blaze away might replace flurry for purga. You can keep it permanently up by quelling between LMB spam and to transition back to quick RMB pumps all you gotta do is quell cancel an LMB and do a min charge RMB

[analog agate]

Also I am swapping to thrust/uncanny for ds iv. I don’t dodge enough to proc riposte and I can more consistent dmg with thrust

[mental grail]

The new mission is pretty good

[nocturne dust]

I think that's pretty standard

[mental grail]

I naturally rush forwards in every mission I play, so the mission ends up feeling very cathartic

[tiny oracle]

Anyone else noticing surge and trauma rmb feels kinds unresponsive after update? Or is it just me?

[potent echo]

Flurry?

[tiny oracle]

Ye

[potent echo]

Flurry probably has issues

[analog agate]

I think riposte will still be the blessing for melee/gunkers though since they are using it in combat more

[potent echo]

Might be because they did something to bluestims again

[tiny oracle]

Feels like there is kind of a delay when releasing the attack so i often end up canceling it combletely by quelling like i did before update

[late sapphire]

100%

celerity stims make the flurry bug worse!

[runic hornet]

kill 200 ranged lessers in a single round

[late sapphire]

celerity stim + flurry is even slower than flurry, which is slower than nothing

[runic hornet]

the moment I go down even for a few seconds in the finale the entire team gets wrecked

why do people ignore ranged

and then complain that the reasno the team wiped

[mental grail]

what map?

[runic hornet]

was that "you weren't with us"

the library scroll hack

[mental grail]

oh, relatable

[potent echo]

Just hide next to the scroll lmao

Natural choke

Unless it's the staircase descend of doom before

[nocturne dust]

Have you considered being worse so that others have to carry you?

[mental grail]

it's vets natural job to kill shooters

[potent echo]

Me as the knife and DB vet

[mental grail]

as a gunker I just do it myself

[nocturne dust]

Hot take, but psyker is better at it and it isn't 'natural' for vets who can absolutely go melee build

[potent echo]

Assail is built for anti shooter

[nocturne dust]

Assail, surge, voidstrike

[mental grail]

ive died so many time exactly like this

[potent echo]

Oneshots all of them with some DD stacks

[nocturne dust]

Psyker has all the best anti-shooter stuff

[azure karma]

Is -40% peril perk worth the toughness reduction

[nocturne dust]

Psyker even gets bubbles

[upper galleon]

assail is now anti anything that isn't unyielding or carapace

[potent echo]

I'll say no because quelling is so easy lol

[magic kayak]

my take is it depends on your build but so far I feel like no

usually I want more peril to get crit chance up

[potent echo]

Still kinda iffy on maniacs but like just throw 10

[mental grail]

Psyker is second best at it, but psykers have shit toughness regen options compared to a VoC vet with plasma gun.

[nocturne dust]

bubble

[blazing drift]

are you still suppose to get crit on your purge staff?

[upper galleon]

ehh, i'd say vets get carried by ironwill and piss toughness

[potent echo]

Yes

[runic hornet]

midpoint hack

[upper galleon]

psyker has great toughness gen and great unique mitigation

[runic hornet]

instead of spawnkilling the ranged

[magic kayak]

crit doubles stacks

[upper galleon]

just nexus imo

[runic hornet]

they were letting all the ranged just spread and shoot

[strong gulch]

Did a map with purg and flurry. I think that one might be scuffed too. I repeatedly would not cast after charging rmb.

Is void the only one not getting hit by the flurry bug?

[upper galleon]

crit doesn't double stacks

it's +1 stack

warp nexus is good, some crit from talents is good, but for like perk?

[magic kayak]

1x2=2...

[mental grail]

the nerfed my illisi stroke though

[magic kayak]

2 is double of 1

[upper galleon]

5% crit chance only gets to max stacks 3% faster on targets that live that long

[mental grail]

I can't jork back toughness immediately anymore

[upper galleon]

with 76% burn you are looking at 6% faster to max stacks per 10% crit chance

[analog agate]

I think it’s just a glitch. I hope…

[potent echo]

Rip

[upper galleon]

it's nice, but it is not the best option all the time

[summer prairie]

it's not about being faster to max stacks though

[magic kayak]

yes but purg applies stacks fairly frequently, to a lot of enemies at once

[upper galleon]

nexus is good, lets you maintain all your on crit talents, and you'll get some crit from tree

[strong gulch]

who knows. I hope so too

[upper galleon]

yes

[potent echo]

I won't take crit chance on the staff perk anyway

+maniac is crazy

[upper galleon]

and how many enemies live long enough to get to max stacks?

[mental grail]

lobomite team I'm afraid

[blazing drift]

maniac and flak then for purge?

[magic kayak]

yeah I feel like taking +crit chance of 5% isn't worth it

[mental grail]

1 psyker 3 pre-servitor team comp goes crazy

[upper galleon]

and it's not like purge is your only soulblaze either, Perilious and creeping flames

[tiny oracle]

I would say yes with scriers gaze. No without it

[magic kayak]

that's what I run personally but I've seen people go crit chance.

[upper galleon]

crit chance perk is just people overvalueing what the Double stack actually does in real gameplay

leveling, i'd put on a crit perk, cause your burn stat is lower

[strong gulch]

Oh right, we can be very choosey now on perks. I'd say maniac or unyielding as second purg perk.

[mental grail]

^

[summer prairie]

I don't think maniac is that great on purge either

[magic kayak]

exactly, crit chance was viable when you had your gear almost bricked lol

[mental grail]

what is then?

[blazing drift]

hmm so unyeilding + flak

[upper galleon]

i'm going to try running cara elite and see how well 20% brittleness helps /j (i'm running flak unyielding)

there is a level of preference to perks

[magic kayak]

unyielding on purg is a bit of a waste, I put unyielding on my melee

[upper galleon]

it depends on waht you are using it for

[magic kayak]

you put the burn on them, switch to melee to ramp up tick damage

[foggy breach]

uhhh

[upper galleon]

melee has carapace maniac on it

[potent echo]

Maniac let's you burn flamers faster

[upper galleon]

theoretically, unarmored could work in some niche dreg only missions

[magic kayak]

that's kind of why people go crit chance also is once you get stacks up, swap to melee to thin leftovers and then the perks on melee become what tick damage is based on, not the purg staff perks

[upper galleon]

very, very few of these people are running the debuff tracker mod

to know when to optimally swap to melee

[magic kayak]

ok true

[upper galleon]

in a 3% time difference

[potent echo]

I run carapace unyielding on my melee so I run flak and maniac on my purg

[strong gulch]

It is not a waste. You can cover horde and do boss DPS. Plus orgyn enemeies are often in a mixed horde.

[nocturne dust]

Hello, it me

The purgatus boi with the debuff tracker

[magic kayak]

that's a good point. I always go to 16 stacks, venting shriek, then swap to melee

[potent echo]

Unyielding on melee is super good for bosses

Burn and swap

[magic kayak]

yep!

[potent echo]

And you can melee the boss

[strong gulch]

yee

[upper galleon]

crit is good as a blessing, tho now with blaze away i'm not too sure, but psyker gets warp damage off crits

[magic kayak]

and if you want to be an ultra flame boi put blazing on your illissi lol

[upper galleon]

and crit procs Empathetic as well

[potent echo]

Perfect timing maxes out really easily lol

[nocturne dust]

only when Fatshark makes that blessing not useless

[magic kayak]

I tried to make a melee build earlier with it. It was not great.

[upper galleon]

without nexus tho? ehh

[potent echo]

I'm gonna put blazing on my Deimos

With nexus

[upper galleon]

i actually like there is

some meaningful options for blessings

[magic kayak]

I do like the new heavy attack smite interaction with the 10% base dmg increase

[potent echo]

Souldrinker PC blazing spirit gaze melee

[upper galleon]

you got nexus, blaze away, and rending. i can see some people going flurry still, maybe not on purge

they should give purge the surge blessing

so you can apply 4x stacks on crit

[magic kayak]

I wish

[upper galleon]

OH FUCK

[strong gulch]

Hmm

[upper galleon]

i never tried

[summer prairie]

they should combine the heavy attacks smite with the 10% dmg blessing

[upper galleon]

the new smite node

to do

on friday

tomorow im busy

[magic kayak]

what do you mean

[summer prairie]

so you get both with 1 point

[potent echo]

10% dmg blessing?

[summer prairie]

talent

[magic kayak]

I agree with that

[potent echo]

Talent?

[summer prairie]

not blessing

[magic kayak]

it's 2 points for that garbage really

[potent echo]

Ah

But idk why it's even a thing

You cant even melee while smiting

And why only heavies

[magic kayak]

my melee shield build that so far is not great fun to play

[magic kayak]

honestly I don't know, but it does work decent on the illissi since it has such wide heavy attacks

[potent echo]

Heavysword

But also with brumo they just die so

[summer prairie]

is that build with purg?

[blazing drift]

anyone got a cool purge tree?

[summer prairie]

oh a meme

[magic kayak]

yep!

[potent echo]

PC and souldrinker is good right...?

[runic hornet]

Broke: purgatus fire builds
Woke: orbeez LMB staff builds

seriously staff orbeez are so good lmao

[potent echo]

The orbeez support is insane

[runic hornet]

pewpewpewpew

[potent echo]

Surge electrokinetic staff real

[magic kayak]

souldrinker is definitely pretty solid it seems like

[potent echo]

I forgor what it was

5% crit and 5% toughness?

But the UI seems bugged, doesn't seem to be refreshable

[magic kayak]

That's my purg build I'm trying out

[blazing drift]

okay will try ty

[potent echo]

No perfect timing smh my head

[narrow herald]

which perks are best on dualing sword? 🤔

[potent echo]

Thrust uncanny

[narrow herald]

perks not blessings

[potent echo]

Ah I'm explode

[magic kayak]

Hmm I had perfect timing not sure how I don't have it now

[potent echo]

Maniac for mutants but with thrust now 🤷‍♂️

Unyielding cause I like stabbing bosses, also hate bulwarks

[magic kayak]

getting souldrinker takes up 3 points which kind of sucks

[potent echo]

Duelling sword doesn't really need flak

[analog agate]

I actually forgot to see if you need maniac with thrust… oops

[narrow herald]

what about cara?

[potent echo]

Cara things die anyway I'm not passionate about killing crushers slightly faster

Bosses though, I get when yellow numbers on boss dmg

[magic kayak]

dueling sword I just go cara maniac

[analog agate]

I am doing maniac/unyielding and uncanny/thrust for trauma build

[magic kayak]

kind of depends on what staff and blitz you use also

KR BB does solid dmg to most unyielding

[potent echo]

Idk if it's faster than duelling sword though

[narrow herald]

would u use thrust in a gunker build?

[potent echo]

Why not

[nocturne dust]

maniac lets you release earlier I guess

[magic kayak]

It's not, but safer from distance

[potent echo]

Safety

[magic kayak]

plus if a monster engages and is chasing a teammate I can keep dmg on them with bb

[potent echo]

If the boss is far away I just kill adds

[magic kayak]

that's fair and probably better but most pugs just die to monsters if you don't focus them down

[potent echo]

Then let them

Pick them up after

[magic kayak]

I can't even argue with that haha

[potent echo]

They can tank the boss while inspecting the floor

[narrow herald]

and ilisi?

[magic kayak]

someone posted earlier that showstopper is horrible, anyone else tried it?

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it is horrible

but it's funny

[magic kayak]

But... have you tried it with haymaker, pc, and wildifire?

the memery would be extreme

[summer prairie]

do you get more mastery xp with the curios

kind of worth if so

[magic kayak]

that's a great question

[potent echo]

Perks or blessings

[narrow herald]

both

[potent echo]

Slaughterer + (anything)

[wise geode]

Does anyone know if surge on the lightning staff will cause the secondary fire to fire twice?

[potent echo]

Perks is flak and maniac I guess

[strong gulch]

It doesn't.

only lmb

[waxen jackal]

Is there a skill that gives you toughness on warp kill?

[wise geode]

That sucks

[strong gulch]

soulstealer

[wise geode]

It will do it for the void strike secondary fire

[waxen jackal]

Thank you, I couldn't find it

Oh I couldn't find it cuz I already had it lol

[strong gulch]

Works on void. Doesn't on surge staff and trauma.

[waxen jackal]

And every kill with the staff is a warp kill right?

[strong gulch]

yes

[waxen jackal]

Perfect. Thanks again

[primal plume]

they gave this guy a radio

[strong gulch]

things that generate peril are generally warp.

The special on force swords, soulblaze, primary and seondary on staves, blitz, etc are all warp

[magic kayak]

purg is actually pretty clutch on train mission

[jovial juniper]

Yeah horde clear/control

Suppression

[magic kayak]

yeah and you can effectively stop an entire direction in certain parts

deathblow on heavy sword is basicallly brutal momentum right?

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[vague grotto]

So, whats the "Best" talent set up to run now? Have not played in a long time

is assail no longer the best?

[jovial juniper]

Struggles against heavy armor

[vague grotto]

should i just follow the pinned talent tree?

[magic kayak]

to get going again, probably, but it depends on what equipment you're using really

[vague grotto]

atm im using the lightning staff and force blazing force sword

[jovial juniper]

Illisi? Deimos?

[vague grotto]

give me sec

[feral knoll]

Gun Psyker and the right side is a lot better now : )

[vague grotto]

obsurus mk 2 sword and nomanus mk 6

[strong gulch]

We don't know. Old builds are mostly still good. We got a big patch today with new blessing and talent tree node.

*nodes

[vague grotto]

i was hoping some dedicated gamers already found the magical setup.

lol

[strong gulch]

It takes time to test everything.

We do know that gunker slaps harder than ever.

[jovial juniper]

Well uh

[meager sequoia]

Any of dc ing from the server? Just takes me back to the character selection every time:(

[jovial juniper]

You could go Empowered Psyonics for Assail as horde clear

Or

Venting Shriek+ Disrupt Destiny for Horde clear and Assail damage

[strong gulch]

Ye. Servers are struggling.

Nice

[jovial juniper]

So lemme see

This might suffice for now

[vague grotto]

thank you, ill try this out.

Smite looks fun as well

[lilac summit]

how does the new smite skill work?
does it change the blitz at all?

[jovial juniper]

If you use your ability past 86%(?) peril you kill everything that your assail couldn't at the moment
Heavy armor is an exception of course

Unless you have Uncanny Strike on your melee

[waxen jackal]

For my force sword, should I put flak and carapace? For the perks

[jovial juniper]

Flak and Maniacs are the popular perks

[dark lotus]

guys, how can i save my previous build before the update 😦

[strong gulch]

Update is live

Finally got enough ordos to get my DS4 situated.

[split lance]

Woah woah woah. How good is assail in auric now?

I used to love assail

[mossy oyster]

thought of a really ugly meme void staff max damage route

https://tenor.com/view/worried-face-oppenheimer-anxious-nervous-cillian-murphy-gif-5188912007945040442

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-scarred-for-life-gif-24485981

[dark lotus]

that node here should be use for non-force weapon i assumed?

[dark lotus]

this staff is lacking of blast radius aye?

[mental grail]

I though this was voidblast (trauma) and was going to say it was bricked

it's a kino voidstrike staff honestly

give it to me

https://tenor.com/view/scary-meme-dank-emoji-creepy-gif-17128309

[mossy oyster]

nop

[wicked canyon]

Is Warp Unbound bugged, or do I just not understand how it's supposed to work? I overload from PotW when I chain Scrier's uses, and the description makes me think that shouldn't be happening.

[magic slate]

same thing here

was about to comment about it as well

testing in psykanium with electrokinetic still makes you explode

[wicked canyon]

I was testing with fireball and flamestorm, so I don't think it's tied to the staff.

[magic slate]

it's really noticible with electrokinetic

maybe there is an 'upper' limit to perils that we reach if we spam to much

[wicked canyon]

With flamestorm, my peril increases very slowly. I sometimes have trouble getting it to 100%, so I don't think it's that.

[strong gulch]

Had two zealots and neither were loot goblins. 😭

[summer prairie]

the lingering effect is only 10s, don't see why it wouldn't work with any staff though

[dark lotus]

i dont think it's bug

yeah

[strong gulch]

I heard it might be on a couple stave's rmb/ secodary. I haven't tested to se for myself tho.

[strong gulch]

Seems like a bug to me.

[magic slate]

very much looks like a bug

because doing the same thing with smite doesn't cause you to pop

[dark lotus]

I tested it out, as long as lingering effect still exist, you cannot overload

[magic slate]

did you watch the video I just uploaded?

[wicked canyon]

In Mugin's video, it's happening even without chaining it. lol

[dark lotus]

yeah just saw that

[mental grail]

It's bugged. It only works w/ your blitz.

[dark lotus]

have you tried using other staves?

[summer prairie]

it definitely worked with voidstrike when I played yesterday

[magic slate]

yea it works fine with other staves, chainging it with inferno will cause a pop

[mental grail]

I can spam assail shards for 10 seconds but I can't use electrokinetic.

[strong gulch]

Most people I have seen repost this have been surge staff users. Void has work been working tho.

[magic slate]

void and maybe voidblast work?

[wicked canyon]

I overloaded from PotW with fireball and flamestorm with the lingering buff still active. Sometimes even with Scrier's active as well.

[dark lotus]

let me try using trauma staff

yeah it's fine

[wicked sail]

anyone try charged strike yet

[strong gulch]

yeah 61% percent

[dark lotus]

yes, it's bugged on elecktric staff

[strong gulch]

surge staff bugged again

[magic slate]

Inferno staff seems inconsistent as well

[quartz barn]

Blazing on void?

Is this some new meta or?

[summer prairie]

do you overload even if you run precognition as well?

[strong gulch]

Maybe fire void is better with the cleave talent?

[wicked canyon]

For me, the PotW death doesn't always happen. Sometimes it triggers on the second time I exceed 100%, and sometimes the third, etc...

[strong gulch]

Fire trauma will keep winning in the blazing spirit department, but fire void might be less bad.

[magic slate]

wouldn't that only effect melee?

[strong gulch]

both

[mossy oyster]

I dont know about you guys but I havent overloaded yet from the scriers node

and I just did a void staff run

(then again I might be overtly cautious of those 10 seconds)

[magic slate]

go into psykanium with a surge staff and try it lmao

[mossy oyster]

oh i dont use surge really

[magic slate]

also oh shit that's hilarious

[wicked canyon]

I managed to finish the PotW animation before the buff ended. 😆

[mossy oyster]

have you guys blown up from assailing with it?

[magic slate]

try inferno then

[magic slate]

it's only staves that seem to trigger it

[tacit stump]

the one blocking perk was dangerous with sciers gaze

[warm talon]

Do psykers still have 7.5% innate crit? And somewhat related, do combat blades still have 15% innate crit?

[tacit stump]

or was that normal psy blade blocking

[tacit stump]

i mean the old variant of this perk

[fierce crest]

ye

not a force sword thing

[tacit stump]

made me explode sometimes as gunpsyker

[summer prairie]

weird if it doesn't work with some staves, it should work for anything that uses WarpCharge.increase_immediate to generate peril

maybe some of them use WarpCharge.increase_over_time?

[sinful peak]

does souldrinker stack?

[summer prairie]

does it also not work with Trauma?

I've a suspicion that the bug is related to the flurry one and charge templates. Possibly due to the staves being renamed. Mostly a guess, would we strange

[strong gulch]

Warp Unbound is working for me on trauma in the meat grinder; both primary and secondary. No flurry on the staff tho.

Tried WU with surge staff and no flurry. Primary works but the secondary does not.

[summer prairie]

I don't mean that it's the flurry causing the bug, but rather the same cause for both issues

[patent wing]

pro: purge makes you a tank since souldrinker exists, and rending is kinda nice
contra: im not the only purge player anymore

[strong gulch]

Purg is also a boom with WU

[summer prairie]

Does it work with assail or brainburst

[cold geode]

purg is fucking rocking

[magic kayak]

It actually is for sure

beat train on auric damn with it

[cold geode]

same

[patent wing]

@summer prairie do you know how showstopper dmg is calculated

[summer prairie]

no and can't check at work

[cold geode]

badly unless they changed it

😄

[magic kayak]

showstopper sounds awesome

[patent wing]

the explosion radius is really really tiny

[magic kayak]

FS just let us have fun

[patent wing]

i like blaze away + rending but i miss warp flurry

[strong gulch]

WU

works: assail, bb, smite, trauma, void, force sword push attack (caused damage to an enemy), force sword special, and laspistol push

explodes: surge staff (primary works but secondary doesn't) and purg (both don't work)

[magic kayak]

I find it funny that purg doesn't work when it's essentially the weakest staff to use with WU

laspistol push creates peril though?

[summer prairie]

does flurry also not work properly with purg?

[strong gulch]

Maybe it's personal lol

Like, "If you explode with purg that's your fault." kinda thing.

[magic kayak]

I mean, it definitely has the lowest potential

[strong gulch]

it is also causing issues yes

I think some said the flurry was also scuffed on trauma

[upper sun]

TODAY we shall max out psyker mastery

[strong gulch]

I am not noticing an issue in the meat grinder with trauma and flurry tho.

[atomic swan]

no, but your firing time and some animations are so long (especially fully charged)
is easy to deplete flurry timer before you can do a second charged attack

[summer prairie]

My new guess is that it's due to Surge and Purg delaying explosion until your attack is finished, while other attacks are instant

yep, pretty sure it's that

[near wyvern]

Blazing away + nexus is new BiS for purga

[left basin]

Pugis repair your guide my brain hurty

I need to use other people's decisions

[near wyvern]

You can quell a couple ticks with LMB to keep up blaze away and not drop the stacks, Use qc LMB into min charge RMB to switch back to low charge RMB spam without dropping stacks

[near wyvern]

Working on it but it will take a long time

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/sobbing-gif-sobbing-uoooh-gif-24612778

[near wyvern]

Will probs do a purga video tomorrow

Cause this shit is ridiculous

[left basin]

Best soaker weapon?

[near wyvern]

You can do infinite purga build as well, not top DPS but infinite CC

[fierce crest]

purgatus staff is dead
long live inferno staff

[near wyvern]

I am going to add "aka" to my guide because names like that stick along

Purga and trauma

[fierce crest]

purgatus is such a better name too

trauma idc

[orchid shadow]

If I wasn't overdoing it before with Surge LMB spam before, I'm certainly doing it now, it's so fun. Friendship ended with Warp Flurry. All the LMB spam talents are now my best friends.

[magic hazel]

At long last...

[patent steeple]

I think blaze trauma is a good (or even the best!) way to trivialize hordes, btw.

EP Smite is a dead strat, long live blaze trauma/voidblast

[potent echo]

Did eepy smite get nerfed at all 🤔

[quartz barn]

Nop

[fierce crest]

so whats the best way to use DD these days

[patent steeple]

No, its just that it doesn’t kill hordes as quickly as blaze trauma anymore imo

[potent echo]

Bet

[quartz barn]

I have it on my voidstrike and gunker builds

So same as before

[fierce crest]

i havent played since it was super buggy about marking

[quartz barn]

Reliable way to hit blue goon > win

It never was buggy tho

[fierce crest]

it was

it would mark enemies without highlighting them

so youd see like 3 marks a minute

[quartz barn]

Ok didnt know about that one

[fierce crest]

do we like 10s or 25 stacks?

[patent steeple]

10seconds, always

[potent echo]

Oh that one was long ago

[quartz barn]

I do know about people complaining about being unable to kill them because the marked enemy is somewhere in the back

[potent echo]

10s for sure, you can hit all the nice BPs with 10-15 stacks

[slender coyote]

so possible to get weapon with 80 on all potential stats?

[potent echo]

No

Nuhuh

[sinful peak]

puppet master or one with the warp?

[potent echo]

Not puppet master...

[pine shore]

Melee psyker got buffed so good. And now that locks are gone, what should I do with my old illisi and autogun for a melee psyker build?

https://i.imgur.com/Qzg8Pt0.png
https://i.imgur.com/DiXKevp.png

Do you recommend I change anything?

[potent echo]

Noh

[vestal fulcrum]

Upgrade Deathspitter if you can

[sleek saddle]

anyone got a good gun psyker build?

[pine shore]

oh, good idea

[vestal fulcrum]

I only have bad ones - want some ?

[potent echo]

That's a crazy roll though

If it was prepatch

[pine shore]

Yea, these are my old weapons before update

Only power is sligtly better, but not by much

they were already almost 380

[quartz barn]

Now to farm for one with a 4x80 / 60 split

[pine shore]

And I think I had +20% flak damage on illisi

Is charged strike good?

Would it be better to get for melee psyker instead of assail?

[atomic swan]

both
both is good

[pine shore]

I wish I could get both charged strike and assail

But I caaaant

[strong gulch]

Nice. IDK about maniac tho.

[potent echo]

Change it to mk19 asap

Unless 4 is the new 19

[vestal fulcrum]

would this work for a "gun" build? Has melee stuff also for flavour. I probably should drop something for Kinetic Deflection, though

[potent echo]

I don't know anymore

[atomic swan]

idk about Charged Strike. It looks like a meme/fun perk

[pine shore]

get one with the warp

get kd

[strong gulch]

It's not. I like the 4. Will change eventually.

[vestal fulcrum]

OwtW is surely a choice

Skipped on melee stuff - I don't feel like it's particularly necessary, honestly

[potent echo]

May I ask what's OwtW

[vestal fulcrum]

One with the Warp

[pine shore]

I would drop soulstealer and warp splitting depending on your weapon

[potent echo]

Toughness DR

[vestal fulcrum]

this node might be redundant

[pine shore]

Kinetic deflection is a perk you take for every single psyker build

[vestal fulcrum]

it's not nothing, but at the same time it's only 5%

[pine shore]

it's op

Psyker without kd is not a psyker

[potent echo]

5% sleep

Doesn't affect melee

[quartz barn]

I dont use kd because i rarely block

[potent echo]

Also doesn't warp cleave affect assail too

[idle aurora]

So what's the new meta for purgatus? Nexus and rending?

[potent echo]

So it's always a pick

[potent echo]

Nexus blazeaway

[quartz barn]

Is purg better now?

[pine shore]

What do you thing about warp unbound?

[potent echo]

Warp unbound with crack of bone is the most fun thing ever

[vestal fulcrum]

Now... what would be better?
Warp Unbound aka not explode in Scrier's Gaze on 100% peril for its lingering duration, or
Lightning Speed aka 10% Attack speed?

[quartz barn]

Ran into another psyk with it earlier but i ran trauma so they kinda gave up

[potent echo]

You melee until 30stack, swap to staff blasting

[pine shore]

Sounds fun but useless considering I have a by crack of bone for melee psyker which effectively gives me infinite peril as long as I headshot kill someone

[vestal fulcrum]

I feel like both can be good - it depends on context

[idle aurora]

Nice, gotta try it. As old player who has a shitton of dockets it's so easy to just roll several perfect weapons within minutes

[potent echo]

Ezgame

[pine shore]

It's crazy how I used to spend 2 million dockets per weapon and now it doesn't even take 200k

[potent echo]

Quickplay is cancelled

[atomic swan]

Warp Unbound has more stuffs for you to work with
You can stay at 100% peril to combo with other talents, blessing that required high peril

[potent echo]

Basically cleave/nexus/rider

[radiant frigate]

with the new addition of warp splitting i am not sure if i want to keep using sg

[strong gulch]

only trains

[atomic swan]

and i dont know about 10% attack speed. I played psyker without attack speed for YEAR (obviously)

[vestal fulcrum]

It might be more relevant on weapons like the combat axe - I don’t think force swords really need it

I’ll test both Unbound and LSpeed, I suppose

[wind spruce]

Attack speed feels really good on everything to me

[potent echo]

🤔doesn't it synergies really well with unbound

[wind spruce]

Even basic stuff like duelling sword it feels great

[potent echo]

Attack speed is just

There's a reason all weapons in vt2 rolled 5% attack speed

Ok "all" weapons

[strong gulch]

Just casually reaching into the shield and blood spurting for some reason.

mk12 chainaxe things I suppose.

[radiant frigate]

maybe not but you did put swift slaying on everything

[potent echo]

True

[vestal fulcrum]

final version, I suppose, at least for the time being

I wonder if skipping PC is valid...

[radiant frigate]

true aim skip

big sad

[vestal fulcrum]

Fuck True Aim, I don't need it

At least not on this build

[potent echo]

Truly a build

[atomic swan]

you can not to skip true aim
basic reload speed is fine

[potent echo]

I would skip assail regen, skip quietude, skip OwtW

[atomic swan]

also some range weapons can do reload phase skipping

[potent echo]

Pick anticipation

[vestal fulcrum]

weapons

CBA to change Illisi blessings for now

But I'm not playing with UStrike

[radiant frigate]

zapstick has 4 blessing points with no blessing to put it on, halp

[potent echo]

Free points

Exchange for photos

[fierce crest]

can snack on them later

[radiant frigate]

free eternal yellow dot

[strong gulch]

Yes. PAIN

[potent echo]

Suffering from success

[fierce crest]

havent played in a while so all my weapons cant be improved cuz my mastery is too low :(

[pine shore]

I have every mastery at 20

[strong gulch]

It's like those plastic crooked fingers you can get around Halloween.

[pine shore]

except the new weapons

[fierce crest]

all mine are 0 :(

[nocturne mural]

ELDEN RING GIANT HANDS PTSD

[strong gulch]

Actually yeah

[fierce crest]

i dont even get to keep the blessing i already unlocked

[mossy oyster]

no better time right?

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-goty-game-of-the-year-tarnished-jumpscare-gif-27608439

[strong gulch]

That sucks. I know some people are having issues with having no points or partial points. Fatshark did sckowledge it in the forums.

[summer prairie]

you should have points to spend in the masteries menu unless it's still bugged

[strong gulch]

My partner is very mad that his points are messed up.

[fierce crest]

headhunter autogun was like my most used gun, and its got 1 level

vigilant now

[vestal fulcrum]

Mine are bugged. I seem to have allocated mastery points to blessings which had had only one level prior to the patch

Like R&G on zapstick

[nocturne mural]

what in the unholy warp is the difference between Strength and Power ?

[potent echo]

Power yes

What's strength

[nocturne mural]

Dunno there are Blessings with "Increase Strength"

[summer prairie]

Do ranged weapons get strength too instead of power

[nocturne mural]

dafuc is that

[vestal fulcrum]

The keyword has changed, but the distinction between melee/ranged power and total power is still as ambiguous as it was, no?

[vestal fulcrum]

Deathspitter has “strength” for instance

[fierce crest]

whats the way to speed level mastery? funny that i have some near perfect weapons but have forgetten how i made them

[pine shore]

buy weapons

[spark fractal]

how's the heavy sword, guys? i'm thinking about investing in it to use as a horde clearing weapon to back up my voidstrike staff

[pine shore]

upgrade to green

sacrifice

[fierce crest]

thats better than just using them in missions?

[vestal fulcrum]

Probably good. It’s a different twist on the combat axe, with potentially better Maniac damage, but vastly inferior Unyielding damage

[nocturne mural]

this is on a melee weapon

[strong gulch]

They are the same thing. Another victim of the great renaming.

[sinful peak]

really good but I prefer illisi for the push

[vestal fulcrum]

And heavy swords can’t reliably kill Carapace also

[sinful peak]

there's voidstrike for that

[vestal fulcrum]

But if your other weapon/blitz covers that, then it’s generally good horde/bruiser clear speed across the board

And it’s excellent against Dreg ragers

[fierce crest]

is it worth buying the greens and blues from the armory?

[summer prairie]

no

maybe if it's the same type and you've a ton of money, not sure how much xp you get for that

[spark fractal]

i'm unfamiliar with the weapon type, can you suggest a mark and blessings?

[summer prairie]

but missions are way more experience

[sinful peak]

there's only one illisi

or do you mean HS

in that case IX

[fierce crest]

oh so not even buying greys and upgrading?

[spark fractal]

i meant heavy sword, lol, no psyker is unfamiliar with the illisi

[wind spruce]

I've been using the heavy sword for a few games now and it's definitely enjoyable. Absolutely mulches hordes and rsgers

[fierce crest]

mixed messages

[wind spruce]

Getting used to the lumberingly slow speed is tough

Once I added warp speed back into my build it felt better

[sinful peak]

IX deathblow headtaker

[vestal fulcrum]

All marks can be good in a way - I personally enjoy Mk6 the most, then Mk9 and Mk7 in equal measure

[wind spruce]

I'm using rampage and headtaker

[spark fractal]

aim for heads, got it, any tips on attack chain?

[summer prairie]

ok if it matches the class, it's worth buying to sacrifice

[strong gulch]

I don't like how running or dodge sliding can cancel the chainaxe heavies.

[fierce crest]

oh

[wind spruce]

So many weapons have dumb resets from sprinting

[fierce crest]

damn these new upgrade bars got hands

[wind spruce]

I hate it

[sinful peak]

strikedown heavy for elites, light spam for hordes

[strong gulch]

It's annoying af. I an def gonna die because of this. lol

[spark fractal]

thanks, i'll play around with it

[potent echo]

Didn't they fix something on the chainaxe for this

Something about movement curves

But yea sprint resets are dummy

[wind spruce]

I think that was the speed slowdown during heavy wind up?

[wind spruce]

What's your chainaxe set up

[strong gulch]

Right now I have this. Just playing around in the meat grinder.

[potent echo]

Oh no

What the hell is strength

Hate

[wind spruce]

What we're gonna use to beat fatsharks ass

[potent echo]

I'm gonna whip out my mk(14/2)a recon

[wind spruce]

I don't understand half these name changes. Some weapons changed literally just one mark number

[strong gulch]

This is the tree right now, but it's taking my gun and assail into account more than chainaxe. As far as I know, this thing isn't crit heavy.

[pine shore]

I still can't decide

Is charged strike ok or garbage

[potent echo]

Garbok

[pine shore]

Does it stagger at all? Or is it just a bit of damage?

[potent echo]

No stagger I think

[strong gulch]

just sparkles and vibes

[potent echo]

It's like a flat damage boost to like the whole horde

[summer prairie]

it's 50ish damage to horde, if the heavy has high cleave it's something

[pine shore]

It's 50 damage

[strong gulch]

If true aim wasn't nerfed tho, I would grab charged strike. Because that only hits weakspots so far.

edit: Ok retraction. It puts a dot on the part that you hit. Nevermind.

[summer prairie]

if you for some reason are using shock maul it's pretty good with high voltage

[pine shore]

I never liked true aim

Pretty bad perk

[summer prairie]

I presume it works with that anyway

though does it last long enough

[strong gulch]

As in OP and shouldn't be used?

[pine shore]

surety of arms is so much better

[pine shore]

as in it barely does anything

[strong gulch]

Oh... ok.

[vestal fulcrum]

Yeah, I wouldn’t take True Aim on firearm-based builds

Staff builds don’t really have a better choice on that row

[sinful peak]

what did they change

[pine shore]

Nothing?

[strong gulch]

Ok retraction. It puts a dot on the part that you hit. Nevermind.

[pine shore]

True aim is literally the same