#psyker-class
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noice
going to test how it compares to the other ones
also sadly
kinda gambling for T4 infernus
lmfao
need more burn stacks
more burn more better
does anyone know for warp flurry, does the amount of peril gained also increase faster with faster charge, or same peril increase rate but with a faster charge time
iirc the peril gained is at a set rate while charging, so it works out that faster charging means you generate less peril
I think I've played too much psyker to have this much rn
damn thats almost 4 times as much as i play
Lol, didn't know we played a mission together @unreal wasp
Archivum Sycorax just now ye
You did well. I sucked that match @unreal wasp
Guess I need that scoreboard, showed different damage with mine
Maybe goofy mess where it didn't know whose Soulblaze was whose

Well, we both did well. I was tired and didn't do as good as I'd like

That's the only thing weird about that other scoreboard is that it seems to not even actually count enemies staggered
Also a thing with my scoreboard is that "Enemies Staggered" is slightly misleading
Should be "Enemy Staggers", counts each time on each enemy
Actual Damage is different too. According to my scoreboard, I did the most damage and overkill. But that was a great mission indeed
Do the skaven have an equivalent in 40k? (ie, conniving silly little rat people)

Also, I checked out your build. Good talent tree though
We both ran Psykenetic aura 😂
And venting shriek
Been wondering how fun it would be to do a 4 pskyer smite and surge build an au malstorm OvO
Feel like that could vary wildly depending on Keystones, Abilities, and Melee
Especially if there's one EP Smyker, imagine the others might not even ever use Smite if they're not EP
I want to try that out x3, like imaigne doing it wiht lights out modification OvO
poor eyes...
nom nom nom

God I fucking love Incron
The regular scoreboard sometimes counts overkill damage as normal damage, so it will always be somewhat inflated compared to ovenproof's extension
The difference is particularly pronounced with trauma staff because it overkills trash mobs by so much
It's been a while but I recall it doesn't know the health values until the enemy has lost health or been staggered, so one-shot damage is initially fully counted as non-overkill
Weird thing about that to me is that my damage is the same on both scoreboards
Or about the same
Ovenproof's would be the one where the Trauma user has much higher damage

In that scenario
Johnny's scoreboard has both values. If you look at the lower total damage count yours is 388k
I just don't know why his damage is so much lower on my board is all
I was not
Joined right at the medicae station before the funny alarm hallways
Yeah so all the damage they did before you joined wasn't recorded by your game
Makes sense to me


Honestly completely forgot that I joined mid-game until you asked

Thanks for saving my ass @unreal wasp . You are one of the few psykers that actually knows when to use smite
If you're not using EP, only when someone is getting their cheeks clapped or if they're on an objective and you really want them to not get hit.

You made my game freeze with all that lighting of yours @unreal wasp 😆
After the mission
Think I actually did that to myself once but that was probably moreso because game had been open for hours
Do believe Darktide has a LITTLE bit of memory leak
Tried doing a mission with 3 Smithers and my computer went haywire after the mission was over. Safe to say that Darktide really loves kicking me out at random times
My FPS dropped during and after the mission
May moreso have been from the Surge crit explosions sending gibs everywhere. I do a LOT of crits
I now hop off Darktide to relax and big game hunt in 76 

No damage on Warp Charges is pretty cursed
local psyker drops worst build ever
asked to leave server
I mean
I'd be hard pressed to call the build bad
if this lobby had actual players in it (made it to the last event near flawlessly) this would've been a win lol
ur build sucks
feel bad
you cannot argue with the insane when the insanity gets results
i fear for your sanity
see above scoreboard for effectiveness
it's disgusting but it actually works
i'm pretty sure you'd still do okay even with no skill points
i'm pretty sure most experienced players could do alright with no skill points
oh ok that explains a lot more lmfao
not effective, but yk
250 ranged elite kills
kek
u had to get that in a solo
i had like 225 in that maelstrom
in a full team
on zealot.
with an evis and flamer.
hate.
oh we had 2 vets too
a plasma and a recon
they were so bad
blazing surge trauma 🙏
(20 points to mobility)
did they say anything about fixing surge on trauma?
or is it just for m1 psyker
even if it's still just m1 the build will be good
(also surge trauma m2 would be broken as shit)
it wasn't a solo btw
I was reviving the bots in hopes somebody would join lmao
they had about 200kish damage
combined
so roughly as good as the standard pub plasma user
Unsanctioned is back. 
Tonight maybe.
I sleep tonight.
is there a way to make assail hit harder, or is it just a horde depleter
it's mostly an anti gunner/special tool
disrupt destiny or EP
assail has ammo so it can't be relied on solely. it can def thin a horde out, and it is great vs ranged enemies besides reapers
EP makes assail better but DD makes everything better
i currently use it as my main ranged tool
but my actual main weapon is illisi
it serves that purpose very well
void assail ds4 is what i use
void and ds4 are so much raw damage with DD that assail just covers the rest of the weakness (thins out hordes and spread out ranged enemies
except boss damage you have everything
void surge can def chunk bosses on headshot
hell it still staggers them, it just has some kinda of cooldown
Disrupt Destiny
Or EP aimed shots
on malefic momentum, if i kill people with the force sword normally, does the warp damage buff apply to channeling the sword special
i dont think an unactivated force sword activates/stacks MM
odd
Force sword special is warp damage so yes
it will after the update
wait
WAIT
WAIT
WAIT
will it actually
MM would make force swords deal double damage
since its both a warp weapon and not a warp weapon

I
Illisi going S+ tier just because
I thought it just wholly classified as a "warp" weapon
even when turned off
unless thats how they do it now
and they're removing that stipulation when its off to actually stack MM
im pretty sure its based off the attack not the weapon
well if it was based off attacks wouldnt everyone just run MM with force swords
and never special until 5 stacks
the talent says warp attacks not warp weapons
It is based on attack type.
peak
stack MM 5 times by killing 5 pox walkers with staff bonk
void nuke the crusher wave

also reminds me
need to make scriers void build
max racism
why bother playing psyker when the whole talent tree is gonna change in less than 2 weeks
why bother gambling when itemization is in 2 weeks?
yeah
mastery
i dont
oh just cause its organized gambling
which i have been doing for months
It’s unironically fun
to give you a blessing you want
u wanting to disagree with me non stop makes u look STOOPID
I SUCK U SWALLOW
why play the game when there is an update 5 years from now
you're just mad you walked into that one
you blow clad
even on a void scriers build is purloin even remotely worth
its not even guaranteed quell
lmfao
I don't need update to craft weapon.
no flak 😭
im going to break your surge staves
Recon las does really good flak damage already and really weak maniac.
The OG perks were 25% maniac and 20% flak.
i just put flak for dot
when someone puts on their 8 elden ring buffs/blessings/perks to reach a 1 shot breakpoint
meanwhile soulblaze and people who use flamer

That's why I put unyielding for monster damage.
does every lasgun have the same modifiers vs flak/maniac ?
crit chance crit dmg
more and better infernus

Crit chance with tru aim? Xd
headhunter true aim crit chance perk
and get crit damage
since you'll be critting so much
No
thought so
Within recon family tho they’re pretty similar
if you put infernus dumdum on them they're VERY similar
But if ur comparing infantry / recon / helbore then definitely no
Honestly just go dum dum + deathspitter
really
for any of em?
even on a SG build
the infernus DoT may have memed my brain too hard
cause I rolled this last night and havent touched it yet
Deathspitter is +32.5% power which is multiplicative to +damage
Yes deathspitter is +T.pwr
You're not getting rending or ammo refund like vet so yeah just double up on damage
ok
that makes things alot easier
i think ill go flak/unyield or flak/iac
on this then
Infernus only stacks up to 12 burn
yeah I wanted infernus because
It’s not that much damage especially on psyker
it just helps with bossing
It just looks funny
my confirmation bias comes from using this
(I had to kite 2 chaos spawns that I was roasting alive)
so I like infernus but ill try out doubling down on power and just make soulblaze more broken
I mean, weakened monsters don’t have that much health to begin with
one was real one was weakened
very tough spot for a gunker to clutch
(everyone was dead and it was 3veg)
Good job 
U made emperor/tzeentch proud
chaos spawn command grabs be upon me

woe
so in a mk2's case
im just gonna keep dumdum/DS should I go the classic flakiac
or
Dum dum +30% C.dmg
Deathspitter +32.5% T.pwr
Results in 172% damage
Assuming no other +damage buffs
whats the C in C.dmg and is T.pwr (true power?)
C (close) damage (max effect until 12.5m, falls off towards 0% at 30m)
T: total
ah gotcha
I abbreviate these terms in my guide
Otherwise it’d be too long
(It already is too long)
i havent done my soyker homework nearly as much as my zealot
i assume the guide is pinned?
I work on the veteran guide
With psykers you want to go dum dum + infernus and VId for recon
We don't have the ammo pool of a vet but we have Assails, recon is your panic button and with infernus does decent monstrosity DPS if you spray it every now and then
True Aim + Empathic Evasion is absolutely broken with VId
i tried 6d and I just like the 7a more
gonna try the mk2 rn
(when I mean try I played actual entire games not just psykhanium)
Psyker Atheneum is your friend so you can steal my homework
with the vet guide and atheneum you have enough info on the game to play the 3 human classes
I put in a bit too much info 
Mfw when the psykers and vets will have a heavy sword guide that isn't just W + M1
instructions unclear I lit the monster on fire with infernus then went to knife melee
Should I feel bad about genuinely enjoying an Assail Scrier's build?
never sibling
(I just made an assail/scriers/void/knife build)
Mk4
But why tho
I
cant validate my reasoning
im just letting you know im going SG DBarrel/CSword
Zealot role play
50 % crit chainsword 4 meta question mark
When the patch drops, I'm going XIIIg
Got my first psyker to 30. Looking to do the cliffhanger and Malleus Monstronum Penances, wondering if anyone could help/point me in the right direction
(was thinking shirtless with these pants but I really like the early game chest pieces with it)
many good options
I played with a shirtless Psyker with the best pants available (smite penance) this morning
i was just looking at those pants
I was like damn I really need to smite again
not fair cause they're so good
for once the padded moebian pants work
based
No but if you are not using EP when combining Assail and Gaze you are hurting yourself
No speak-say to cop-pig. Will not be tattle-snitch
Ah hell nah, New York rat
At first, I thought that was an opossum.
Need help with cliffhanger and Malleus Monstronum
Try looking in the lfg channels.
Smite heretics off a cliff and use brain burst for any monster
Malleus needs to be done in a private game.
Cliffhanger only has like 2 or 3 maps it can be done on.
Assassination map will do
What are the best maps for it? I’ve seen that chasm logistratum was recommended on a Reddit post at the first bridge, been trying to use the illisi push but can’t get the right angle
Use smite, that’s how I got the penance. Just use it and push the heretics off the cliff
You have to either use smite knockback or explode yourself to do it.
I exploded myself to do it.
Vigil Station is also a good map to do it
Can he get the penance on the new map @brazen rampart . It’s literally an edge at the beginning of the map
Got Cliffhanger meself using Venting shriek and then like melee pushing 3 extra enemies because it just barely wasn't enough
Did it on Smelter Complex iirc
Anything that you can die falling off of counts for cliffhanger.
So yeah, you can.
Just cheesed a maelstrom damnation run that had only bots on it:
That sucked
There's some bridge near the start of a chasm terminus mission where you can easily get most of the knockoffs with venting shriek and a force sword push
Oh right shriek can do it too.
But as for force sword pushes, you can't spam them out fast enough to reliably pull it off.
What? That's reliably the best way to get them. It's not about quantity of the force sword push, but it has the widest area of effect and cleave, so you'll get waaaay more staggered back from just one push
I got it on my second attempt with a shriek and force sword push
It... literally is about quantity...
Comes with the requirements of the penance...
You said "spam them out fast enough". You don't need more than 1-2 pushes to get the required quantity.
Spamming something implies you want max number of pushes. You don't need a ton of pushes to get the required enemies.
It takes 1-2 pushes on top of a shriek. Easily done.
You need 7 in exactly 2 seconds.
That's super easy.
Pushes alone aren't gonna cut it, which is what I said.
they did for me lol
Anyways, do you still need help @polar sequoia
Yeah at some point. I’m taking a break rn to watch some football. Got frustrated trying to get randos to be a little patient at the beginning of missions and smite push not working. Sometimes I wish I wasn’t a console peasant lmao
Bayou vibes
the pants are so good
The clutch is so long my instant replay of 8mins doesn't even cover it. 

I finished the 'new' map too. Was fun over all. The start seems difficult with a lot of shooters.
Oh yeah middle was tough too.
Yeah the start is hard on purpose
whats nice about a map thats only hard in the start and middle?
I find all of it hard, but I am not good at the game. The first part isn't too bad if you avoid the outer section with the barrels.
They need to add more spawns on the section after the ride
That ride makes me so fecking sick.
By the time you get to the door before the drop, the enemies are spawning way behind you
The start is one of the most wipe frequent maps, that and that sewage map start
I thought mercantile start had the highest wipe rate before clandestium gloriana was added
Middle event is also a bitch, but much more manageable and no monstrosity spawning
Tbh I prefer the void over hourglass
I love Mercantile, one of my favorite maps, the start is so fun
Oh yeah, the ranged enemies spawning from everywhere still haunts me 
But yeah that first event is pretty deadly, at least there's a med station there
I stood in front of a gunner and just let it eviscerate me. 
in a fight right? 
It was too one sided to be considered a fight. 
Me trying to 1v1 a reaper
True 
auric spawns are starting to work more as intended

also this is the dumbest idea ive had but man is it fun
DBarrel gunker
sounds very funny
I contemplate manstopper on it
The added spawn points and map changes in the update made it chaos for a while with Quickplay. The Bridge lowering event in Enclavum Baross is a nightmare now in Aurics
Nice i dont got double barrel blessing yet so props to you for having that
lowkey thinking of both barrels for manstopper/or scattershot
cause more meme power
or even full bore for BIGGER power increase
Hi siblings
I'm slowly losing my sanity even more than usual
what is it sibling
Spent 40 minutes troubleshooting an X360 emulator, only to figure out the iso file I'm using is corrupted
And the game is so obscure that it's the only repo I could find that wasn't an obvious phishing attempt
So now I'm just gonna abuse substances, order a pizza, and watch Total Drama Island
The cure for all breeds of depression
sounds like a good usage of your saturday
also that sucks alot, what game were you trying to emulate if you dont mind me asking
It was called Backdoor Sluts 3
Dishwasher Dead Samurai
wait
oh im sorry to hear that cause
I have the dishwasher sequel on steam
theres no original on steam sadly
Ya
that game is goated
🤝
Currently trying to beat VS on Samurai for the 'chievo
Having an absolute blast
But it physically hurts me to have only played the first level of Dead Samurai over a decade ago lol
yeah I can understand that feeling of FOMO
lmfao
cause I bought alien hominid for that exact same reason
literally only got through like 2 levels as a kid on newgrounds
At least Alien Hominid has the remaster on steam
And it's a newgrounds game, so incredibly well documented if you wanted the og
SKA STUDIOS! REMASTER DEAD SAMURAI, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
I remember when scott pilgrim was out of my reach for so god damn long
pain
also
ive made
the meme gun
Elaborate
i build true aim with knife/brain burst and play like budget weapon specialist
uhh about that

(I use assail)
very fun SG build
not so bad with DSpitter stacked
but in a 1v1 its going to take some finesse for sure
team scenario its fine
(also knife PA/strikedowns so its not the worst)
does quell canceling still work for trauma right click? been trying to do it but it just cancels the cast
Input issue maybe? Should still work fine
Rmb > R > Rmb > Loop, no?
bro played one game and thought he was cured
do you hold right click?
Dumb question
I actually get 40 ragers unlike you
cause they know I can handle it

You are left clicking as well right?
Also I see so many more snipers spawn now.
tfw forever stuck in bronze auric 😭
i can do quell cancel on left click
heresy boy heresy boy
pls dual queue with me for my promos next year
but the charge attack im doing something wrong
Right but, I mean because you have to left click while holding right click
Like that's how staff m2s work
oh yeah
Just wanted to be sure it wasn't the silliest option
clad add me
(I will never play with you I just need more people on my operative list)
u add me
do you also have a spreadsheet for this
my game is off rn
noob
we both have our codes in our names lazybones
I would love the hat but I hate the veil
thats fair
hat is nice by itself
the chest/pants has a good amount of options it can combine with
Skibidi psyker
Skibidi skibidi psyker
Dude what the fuck
Smite literally has automatic quelling
How

you are quelling too early
gotcha. i think i got it but will need some practice. right after you charge up and left click you hit R?
to stop the animation that happens after where your hands are kinda rising up in the air
Right after the cast, otherwise you cancel the whole thing and get shredded to bits.
Did anyone actually watch this movie
@crisp yacht Pygex's video at 2:35 showcases trauma's charged/ RMB quell cancel.
https://youtu.be/zcINF72qAdY?si=Bz5i0Mj_TsiYQcmk&t=155
Steam Guide: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
0:00 Intro & List of Techs
0:12 1.1 Dodging
0:38 1.2 Sprinting
1:03 1.3 Third Eye
1:13 1.4 POW Abuse
1:34 2.1 Sliding
2:08 2.2 Quell & Channel movement
2:35 3.1 Quell Cancel
3:07 3.2 Slide Quell and 3.3 Slide Casting
It's an older vid, so the LMB regular speeds will look a lot slower because they were.
@mossy oyster
is it me or are these useless
Did they give the Bolter to Psyker? Thats the only gun I want wield speed on
ready for shitty psykers to blow themselves up and tell you its a legit strat?
no theyre all mid
thats the wrong side for it tho 
get ready for MOAR smite
🙂
LMB Surge Surge says no
Play even closer to the sun and forget your mortality and BOOM.
I wonder if that -30% is going to be like the curio ones where it only affects coherency regen
if it is, it'll be a really interesting node pick
if its all toughness regen, well I guess glass cannon is Psyker's specialty lol
only non-psyker mains call it glass cannon
I would like ally revive speed to include things like rescuing teammates after they have died and have been captured.
I can see the channeled force be useful on purgatus staff, since it has high stagger vs. most things on primary attack. I usually stunlock rager groups with the primary attack, so having that buff will help burn through them faster.
I will be playing wounds psyker yes
They should make the explosion do actual damage, like an ogryn nuke
Also, Empyrion Shock looks great for purgatus, too.
what is up with all these stealth zealots all of a sudden
they run a mile ahead, stealth, kill the party and leave
There is 1 penance that requires like 200 or so elite/spec kills while benefitting from the loner aura, w/o players near you.
thats... such a toxic requirement for a penance
The Loner aura works as if 2 players are nearby you, without needing to be by the group
The veteran shroudfield pennace is just "Suppress X enemies when coming out of it".
Yes
it is specifically backstab kills, and it is specifically on ranged enemies
and out of coherency
:)
most asinine penance design award
I'm sure there are some that come close.
that one is backstab kills on specs/elites from stealth
you have to get 500.
it can
but that penance promotes Incorrect Use Of Kraks
but the radius on it is such that they have to be 'crowded into an elevator' range
i will throw this at trash units now
at least, from my experience with it.
play scab melee
get every grenade talent
even shit like twin blasts and demo team
then like kat said kill trash armor
surge/shriek is so braindead good lol
I genuinely forgot about scab melee
true fact
one bazillion damage
something like this maybe for scab melee
someone who actually plays vet can prolly help better
just keep nading
idk what it is about vet but but building vet is more fun than playing vet 
other players can get annoying if they kill your krak targets but you can always go solo (its what i did)
since I need to do the weapon swap keystone pennace and the voice of command pennance, that sounds like a good time.
rec for range weapon?
Does this mean we get Blazing Spirit 4 for our Trauma Staff?
If you're gonna go into scab melee maul it's gotta be something with good anti armor and anti special
if you wanna do the weapon spec penance like revolver
psykers killing a krak target is revenge for all those stolen warp charges
zarona should be good
nah
grenades will take care of the armor
Still faster than a brain burst. kek. /s
eh
just use bullets on disablers
for melee i always enjoyed chaxe
if you bring one of those then armor is a nonissue anyways
i remember doing scab melee in the past. it was a lot of maulers/ragers/crushers.
remember
better to melee than to die (boring)
I do have the newer shovels for the one hit on armor
scab melee has to be one of the maelstroms ever made
for alt fire
its a bit slower than chainweapons for armor imo
and on higher threat levels needs thrust to one shot crushers
BUT
actually
But it doesn't limit your movement with alt fire, like chain weapons do.
on alt fire*
itll prolly be good with weapon spec
the pick attack on the mark 3 has great head magnitism
@radiant frigate is this true or am i talking bullshit?
I don't know what it is, but this torso/legs combo looks really comfy
pj party
You look like you fell through and fought a maintenance tunnel, and lost.
LMFAO
What Comms array did you mug to get that horrible outfit? Does Hadron know you've been pilfering her closet?
(Perfectionism Value
)
You got the beta helmet?? That always looks supremely awful.
Beta Helmet and all of its reskins 😎
I am making a beta helmet outfit request.
Nah I just be on the living room couch watching TDI
Oh right. You said you were doing that.
This sounds beautifully painful
This says spawn tweaks, not spawn "twinks".
This is just the game as it is now
spawn twinks
College
Come on crafting update.
I haven't used deflector in a long time. I'm curios about then vs now.
the voices are telling me to play staff scryer
what staff should i use
surge transfer voidstrike?
what changed about deflector?
it will actually reduce melee block cost like it says it does 
oh is that a fix?
interesting
now i probably literally can indefinitely 0 damage block a deamonhost lol
absolutely beautiful
Even the super rare blue one?
It unironically felt like fatshark was making fun of us for buying the beta of an early access game pretending to be a full release.
True
No clue. I am a different player since I tried it.
Oh.
feels bad imo
moar damage moar better
WATCH THE MILK MAN
Yeah. If you keep an eye on the shops you'll find them. If you aren't constantly watching, you'll be hard pressed to find them. I swear some chracters are luckier than others too. One of my characters has like 8, and the other JUST got one like last month.
Yeah, I switched after that map.
I've been putting all of my milkbucks into curios and checking between every game
Closest i got was a 75 one on my zealot...
how inviting
got that heretussy on display
Is this a gun build?
either gun or voidstaff
purple
about shovel oneshots and weapon spec? yeah it's alright
not my cup of tea but certainly does the job
The way I did sedition to quickly finish the complete missions contract and just be chill, but then I go and be sweaty for no reason. 😩
Which one was sedition?
first difficulty
The easiest one.
erm for some players it’s actually quite difficult
please do not diminish their struggles
I don't love playing zealot and I just want these missions over. If you can get all over 30s, it's quick.
(90k damage through an entire game is insane)
as a level 1 psyker it is certainly challenging
No allegations, just forgot. I tend to like numbers more, the names is hard to remember. Tier 1 diff, or Difficulty 1
I too no good memory
ba dum tss 🥁
bazinga
zaboinks

Wtf that's all I play. Pls no diss.
no diss just surprise
Sedition gang rise up. 
Sedition unironically fun sometimes
Mainly because you get to watch the new players in their natural habitat
booktide
I gave up on penances.
valid
i guess that's what happens when you channel power directly from hell
Wtf why am I higher level than you
Please play the game more
I did have 4 months break.
can't level when you constantly have to dodge witchseekers
I like the big ass falchion ngl.
bro lost his shirt on vacation(he only had one 😭 )
Most premium cosmetics
the difference between giving someone the shirt off your back and showing up the next day not wearing a shirt
is how well you can tell a story
maybe they liked your shirt so much they decided to keep it
Real
many such cases
in 2 weeks you can pick crystalline will to avoid this awkward situation
Guy ressed me while crusher wind up an overhead then get down. The stealth zealot didn't mange to get myself or ogryn up and that was it. But it was my fault for going down though and started the snowball.
The rate that map was painfully rolling I would probably get 1mil+ damage.
Also why stealth nerf on zealot 6s ->5s. 
RIP solo objective gaming. 
Rip explode
Rip crushed
Rip stealth
me when i accidentally explode in what i thought was a perfectly recoverable position
Unacceptable
What if by "break" they ment they were being tortured by the Inquisition to prove he was free of the Taint of Chaos?
missed this, but peak
I still have to 100% on steam
Zealot martydom build is still OP can't believe they are going to buff it slightly. Guess the 1s stealth nerf offset it. 
Need to test the heavy against maniac after patch.
I think just light is is still faster against mutie maybe.
And dreg ragers pack.
Just because of the cleave from bm.
yeah but its still nice to have
sometimes when i mash m1 hard enough i go into the heavy animation
would be nice if i didnt accidentally deal zero damage 
Do you play on controller?
no
Must be some hard mouse press. 
how do the +25% type damage perks work on psyker staves, for example if i put +25% flak on a surge staff does it apply if it hits an enemy with flak wherever or is it still hitbox dependent like guns are
It takes chest.
So a dreg gunner would be flak chest, unarmoured head. Surge right click always aim at chest.
good to know, thank u :)
Aside from Flak what other perk would you recommend on the Surge?
I run maniac personally.
Illisi surge smite creeping flames spam warp charges my favourite build.
Which shock maul is better?
i like the one with looping overhead heavies i dont remember which one that is tho 
On zealot btw. I am not touching it with psyker.
Thinking of trying a momentum shockmaul build.
just buy one of each and try them
what blessings are you thinking of running?
hammerblow skullcrusher?
Skullcrusher for sure since that's damage. I dunno what else.
They are giving slaughterer to crusher I think it shares blessing with shock maul?
THRUST
nnah
just run thrust on everything
It doesn't share blessings
Not shared but I mean like same pool.
ah
Or different pool?
they said somewhere they were aiming at a pool of at least 7 i think for most weapons
But yeah after patch skullcrusher and slaughterer for sure for crusher.
mauls already have a lot
I hate thrust as a blessing.
i think they just wanted to boost the count on crusher with random shit
Its bad on smaul anyways
I love thrust
thrust goes on everything
thrust shovel
thrust ds
thrust voidstrike
I don't like blessing making me slower.
thrust doesnt stack the same on all weapons
I am 100% not running thrust on ds.
you get 1 stack doing heavies asap on maul
but 1 stack thrust is worse than skullcrusher hammerblow
Crafting update who?
I seriously can’t wait for this staff to be better after the update
Just get double t4 blessings.
are they skullcrusher hammerblow?
idk if high voltage applies on heavy or just special
Any hit seems to apply electricity.
🤔
it applies if they have the electricity effect on their body and they're staggered at all iirc
🤔
not just after the special
The special seems weak is it a meme?
so it should proc after every first heavy
no, its good
its a nice stagger
it'll stun anything up to crushers regardless of stagger resistance
Even the light procs electricity.
even with its shitty unyielding dmg you can kill a bulwark after stunning it once with special
nice thing about it you can also scream STOP RESISTING after every special and it will never not be funny
how long does the shock debuff from special last?
Can the special stun green enemies? 
The real appeal of the smaul is you can special stun a mauler doing an overhead on you
you can also special a bulwark shield and immediately make him open up
iirc you can also do it for crushers(stun during overhead) but I’d have to test it out again
but think about the sheer amount of tdr bp zealot can get now
25% from the node and 50% from enduring faith
Thrust Fist !
Collecting stickers ahead of the update. What kind of stickers you have wont matter right, but the more you have the better? So in this case I should snatch the Scattershot?
Havent started using the hacker yet but remember seeing some mentions about manstopper
yeah the amount of sticker will be turned into mastery xp with each rank giving you more mastery point
if the gun bad, get it
Gun indeed bad, so scatter it is then!
I recommand doing it first on clas you don'tp lay much btw
Having most tier 3/4 blessings for a weapon will basically 100% the new mastery for said weapon so yeah get that scattershot
Thinking about it ,you'll progress your mastery with your regular class, but class you don't play will never progress
before the update, manstopper is locked to just a t2 blessing which makes it a massive pain to get at level 30 naturally. after the update all blessings will be t1-t4 so it won't matter, scattershot will give you more
is manstopperjust perfect strike but ranged
Yes.
It just straight up obliterates 500 poxwalkers in one button press.
insert moses gif here
Parting the pox sea
More like better creeping flames.
True aim can let you throw one dart and manstopper over and over again.
kanty shotgun, flechette manstopper, Perilious combustion
absolute shit build but it's funny to think about

It's actually not shit.
@mossy oyster has a build where he uses db with manstopper and assail so he can cycle manstopper.
manstopper doesn't work with fireshot on kanty
well it was fuckin busted when fireshot did it baseline
2 fireshots would burn down an entire bulwark pack
i never really used shotguns
always thought they kind of suck
and the fire shot felt like it was worse than a regular shot
maybe situational or blessing dependent idk
does it flamerize them from the front
does it still do that









