psyker-class

[wind spruce]

Sort of, there's a lot left on the table here. No perilous. No Souldrinker

Melee psyker could be something like this

[radiant frigate]

the big bonk heavies

tempting

[wind spruce]

Nvm no, you wouldn't go down malefic momentum

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-too-bright-night-mode-light-mode-dark-mode-gif-16362901974714730294

[wind spruce]

You could take those two points and go into seer's presence and one with the warp via psykinetics aura instead

Unless you want to do an illisi melee build

Then you want MM

[upper sun]

tbh we might not even get that tree in the release

might change a bit and im hoping they shrink the path to warp siphon by one pain node still

[wind spruce]

Should be close enough for us to speculate pretty accurately

[wind spruce]

I give that a 0.01% chance

[upper sun]

😭

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/egentlig-ark-rock-drake-ark-survival-cat-gif-26653544

[upper sun]

time to play nothing but EP bb purge with all the extra juicy nodes i want

[radiant frigate]

illisi can trigger and benefit from both parts of MM and it does excite me

[wind spruce]

Ima try this with illisi

Wait fuck

I didn't get the new melee talents

[radiant frigate]

the forbidden warp siphon melee sg

Long Gaze™ enjoyer

solidity and peril reductions are kinda fun with sg

not going to lie

[wind spruce]

Scratch inner tranquillity and psykinetics aura for lighting speed, Warp splitting and by crack of bone

[radiant frigate]

but is it greater than having DD? perchance

but also perhaps not

[wind spruce]

Doubtful

But fun meme

[radiant frigate]

slightly higher scrier's uptime

solid meme

[wind spruce]

Man doing these gunker builds I havent fit in PC and soul drinker a single time

[radiant frigate]

it also allows you to live in gas for extended periods of time by entering sg and just quelling

[wind spruce]

And I WANT it

[radiant frigate]

souldrinker looks hard to trigger outside of shriek/blaze trauma/burgertus setups

[wind spruce]

Well that depends

Is it killed by soulblaze or killed while affected by soulblaze

Big difference

[radiant frigate]

i mean, is the condition "killing blow is soulblaze" or-

yeah

[wind spruce]

Hopefully affected by

Because then you only need PC to keep the crit up most of the time

[radiant frigate]

provided we have enough elites

i have to say it has been very entertaining to just walk into a gunner pack and just start slicing them and declaring yourself immune to bullets

thanks EE

[wind spruce]

There's definitely enough on mael for it to be active most of the time during combat

[wind spruce]

It feels so good

The most satisfying EE moment for me is standing a few metres from a reaper pinging it in the head with a las pistol and his bullets phasing right through me

[sinful peak]

is there a good gunker youtuber I can watch

[radiant frigate]

every reaper gangsta until a psyker starts shining a flashlight in their eyes

[brazen rampart]

Every reaper gangsta till a Sah yells at them a little too loud.

[upper sun]

I think telo did one or two gunker runs on his youtube

agent did EP assail zarona

[strong gulch]

@plucky flax aka Agent Chaos and @near wyvern both of gunker vids.
https://www.youtube.com/@swaggarinoblackarino7347
https://www.youtube.com/@Pygex

[brazen rampart]

What's the threshold for "fake" +3 stamina curios?

[plucky flax]

I'd run DD now over ep assail though.

[wind spruce]

I'm no telepots but... https://youtu.be/-2HdiuDukvA?si=er2yVPgs8TVyY0I0

[strong gulch]

Oh yeah, @wind spruce has some. Seeing different ppl play can be good.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChck6j_UukKDnxFwpBq3TYQ

[plucky flax]

My favourite is mk2 las(dumdum infernus) assail ds4 (rampage+uncanny) and DD.

[strong gulch]

76+ base rating is a real +3 stam curio.

75 is a fecking lie

[upper sun]

just find an 80 rating curio its so easy 😭

[brazen rampart]

Cool, so I do have a real +3 stam on every class.

[plucky flax]

One of my first twins kill with complete randos. Using mk2 las and assail + combat knife.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvaenOLrY9A

[upper sun]

is that hard or super hard?

[brazen rampart]

My only gripe is what the hell is that UI.

[strong gulch]

I swear you carried half the discord through hard mode.

Remember that guy who had like greys and purples?? That was a time.

[plucky flax]

The golden bell thingy. The super secret hard mode or whatever.

I remember joining to help people on this discord and they were like 'why you on psyker go vet or ogryn'.

[strong gulch]

top 1% psyker tho

[upper sun]

the same people arent even running chain weapons

[wind spruce]

Aesthetic mastery?

[upper sun]

which is 90% of the benefit

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma is worst staff but it's the best build for me at twins actually.

Just blow up the whole arena.

[strong gulch]

100 blast radius trauma in twins arena

[plucky flax]

I hope they make more fun hard stuff like this.

Also something longer like fortune of war in vt2.

[broken carbon]

easy as fuck

i did it like

4 seconds ago

carried 3 level 1s through it

super easy to do

[upper sun]

😭 by the time i got good enough to play twins no one was playing secret mode

[broken carbon]

have u gotten it yet

[upper sun]

secret no

[broken carbon]

u can get a 4 stack for it easily enough

i’d be down

and we can probably get a couple zealot chat regulars to help too

[upper sun]

next month when my internet is stable enough

[broken carbon]

ah

[upper sun]

ye

[broken carbon]

rip

[strong gulch]

rip

[upper sun]

evi is still best right?

[broken carbon]

chain axe melts their shields

evis probably does too but to a lesser extent

[upper sun]

chaxe 4 right?

i have a good one

[broken carbon]

and id argue chain axe is a bit more generalist compared to like, a mk15 evis

[broken carbon]

i think 12 is the good one

or better one*

[upper sun]

12 is the one with bad lights

wait what if thrust chaxe 🤔

[strong gulch]

I heard the 4 is the better one

or maybe I am confusing "good" with "versatile"

[broken carbon]

i don’t use chain axe tbh

so i really do not know

a mk2 evis would probably be fine for twins though

[strong gulch]

I don't really know zealot things, but that is the one thing I remember is the 4 being versatile. IDK beyond that.

[plucky flax]

I prefer old chainaxe to new one.

Light for single target, heavy spam for horde.

[radiant frigate]

i only have one kill on twins

did it on Super Special Secret Hard Mode once and then never again

corruption cleanse relic zealot, it was

[plucky flax]

One of the popular build there yeah.

For people who don't clear mines. Xd

[radiant frigate]

i was mostly on mine clearing duty

very helpful to help the team recover together with meds

[strong gulch]

My characters lol. No vet or ogy. 🙃

Ok. I just checked. I have the older chain axe.

I think my first one had thrust.

Or maybe it was thunderous?? idk

it has a T

[plucky flax]

It has both thunderous and thrust.

Also slaughterer and headtaker.

Chainaxes have access to a lot of cool stuff.

My fav build for mk4 chainaxe on zealot is martyrdom headtaker slaughterer for the big ass power boost.

RIP and TEAR your way to Khorne's delight.

[radiant frigate]

now THAT is a lot of power

[radiant frigate]

and that is a lot of siblings

meanwhile

[strong gulch]

How very hinged.

[strong gulch]

Got a build I can steal?

[plucky flax]

At the start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqpzn4o0AUo

[strong gulch]

Thanks!

[halcyon gust]

The group with me.

[upper sun]

real

vet bad

ogryn is nice tho

try shield or bronx pick

[sinful peak]

lmao I also have an ogryn named друг

[radiant frigate]

cultured individual

[thin finch]

this brings nothind but confusion you Tzeentch worshiper

[strong gulch]

Also hinged

[strong gulch]

To be fair, I'm confused too.

Shout out to Duck Weed.

Also

REAL

[upper sun]

most i had was 4

[summer prairie]

The code is hard to read, but there's some indication that the cleave node isn't melee only

[strong gulch]

I was wondering

[summer prairie]

It modifies the same max hit mass as the other cleave weapon blessings, but I think ranged weapons use the same function for cleave calculations. Not positive though

[strong gulch]

When I read more cleave my first thought was void buff.

[brazen rampart]

I WAS 4/5 ON AURIC STORM SURVIVOR AND I DIED BECAUSE MY TEAMMATE JUST DISREGARDED A MUTANT HE COULDVE 1TAPPED

[upper sun]

sounds like something i would do

[tired estuary]

Ig you should've dodged the mutant

[brazen rampart]

This ogryn was running a slaughterer thrust karsolas, and I knew he had max stacks of slaughterer, but he just disregarded the mutant he dodged and just kept walking.

[upper sun]

do u wanna see me lose A.S.S to easily dodgable/pushable dogs

would that make you feel better?

[brazen rampart]

I would've if I wasn't having to run nonstop from a burgle that they wouldn't take the 20 seconds to pay attention to and kill.

[wind spruce]

Oh, no shit. It doesn't say melee. I didn't even twig.

[brazen rampart]

No, the only thing that might make me feel better is if that ogryn had all his toes removed with pliers.

[summer prairie]

Not that I trust the patch notes, but based on the code

[wind spruce]

It adds validity to your code reading though

[upper sun]

ogryn IQ moment 😭

[wind spruce]

Fuck. Scriers void with double the cleave will actually be sick

[upper sun]

I had one ogryn bitch at me for waking a DH (it did not attack me)

[summer prairie]

typically "cleave" is associated with melee weapons though, very few ranged weapons modify it

maybe the shotgun infinite cleave is the only?

[brazen rampart]

Like I really want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he just completely disregarded that mutant for no fucking reason, knowing I was supporting him while dodging a burgle like my life depended on it.

The mutant threw me at a bomber, the bomber's grenade dinked off my head and stunned me, and the resulting fire killed me.

[summer prairie]

besides +power blessings on ranged weapons of course

[wind spruce]

Yeah i believe so

[supple dock]

This is when you wake the DH and immediately alt f4

[wind spruce]

The last few DHs I've triggered I've had a teammate politely die to other stuff before it could kill me

[supple dock]

Lmao

[wind spruce]

Not that it's hard to survive them. Just dodge, scrubs

[upper sun]

thats bannable

[supple dock]

Yeah I was gonna put a disclaimer

[upper sun]

@supple dock seriously im still mad about this shit #psyker-class message

first vet walked into a dh and died

second vet stayed too close to the DH without moving and woke it up

BUT ITS MY FAULT FOR SOULBLAZE

[supple dock]

LMAO

[halcyon gust]

Always a great start to see joining mid game

[upper sun]

TALK ABOUT A HOTDROP XD

[halcyon gust]

I'm glad the game put me in the 1 spot that was safe

[upper sun]

i havent had a bad hotdrop in a while tbh

[halcyon gust]

I either get into a lobby or join at the start of the mission

[supple dock]

I still need to pull my power move off sometime. You clutch, clear everything around your allies then just leave

[halcyon gust]

I had times where I joined in right just as the last player died to save a run

I swear my psyker gets most of my intense games compare to Ogryn and Vet

[strong gulch]

I swear it's a 50/50 chance of loading in fire mid mission. Love when it's immediately clutch too.

[upper sun]

I had one opportunity to do that but i REALLY needed the plasteel at the time

[halcyon gust]

The reason I don't leave games most of the time. Plasteel

[upper sun]

3 revolvers

[wind spruce]

"My job is done."

[upper sun]

every single person stole all the ammo

[upper sun]

ive done that one actually

the reverse

clutch rescue people then leave

[halcyon gust]

Why I use staffs. Don't care for ammo. Because my Mental stability is my ammo!

[upper sun]

I only use guns on zealot and ogryn

and 99.999% of the time im melee

so if i run out my team is not killing snipers and gunners at all

[halcyon gust]

Vet is my range weapon user and even then my main build is very ammo efficient naturally

[upper sun]

bruh those people used revolvers on everything

i was so mad

[halcyon gust]

And if I dip into Yellow ammo. My team sucks at controlling shooters, Gunners, and snipers

Not that I don't mind it. I enjoy putting a high power las pistol shot into their domes

[tawdry hemlock]

What are the good blessings and modifier stats for VoidStrike staff?

[upper sun]

flurry nexus and nexus surge

flurry surge if ur feeling frisky

[halcyon gust]

Nexus/Flurry or Surge/Flurry

Want Damage and Charge rate as high as you can get them. Warp Res, Quell speed, and Blast Radius can be dumped

[upper sun]

for perks anything lmao

[halcyon gust]

Nexus/Flurry gives you a good jack of all trades set up with blessings

[upper sun]

maniac elite unyielding flak carapace crit chance all good

[halcyon gust]

Voidstrike can generally handle almost everything the game throws at you

Customize the Void strike to suit what you want to do and it'll go "Yeah I can do that"

Only thing that really gives Voidstrike any sort of gripes is Monsters

[tawdry hemlock]

Is this good?

[wind spruce]

Yes

[halcyon gust]

Yep

[plucky flax]

I run unarmoured flak.

[tawdry hemlock]

Ill keep it till rework

[upper sun]

im locked to unyielding 😭 with the second perk being crit

[summer prairie]

how does assail cleave work, would it benefit from the node

[halcyon gust]

My current staff is Carapace + Flak (Those I can switch as needed) with Nexus + Flurry has my blessings

[brazen rampart]

I'm pretty sure it has a specific amount of targets that it can hit before it disappears, not cleave.

[wind spruce]

Unarmoured for dreg gunner breakpoint?

[wind spruce]

No idea, but seems unlikely

The agripinna IAG would benefit

Not sure what the cleave on two would be like

[wind spruce]

I don't mind unyielding, get through those pesky bulwarks faster

[vestal fulcrum]

This is relatively well-balanced, but do I need like 30th stocked Purgatus in my inventory?

[halcyon gust]

Burn baby burn

[radiant frigate]

does shriek not work through walls anymore or something

[lyric burrow]

should afaik

[radiant frigate]

user error ig

idk

[plucky flax]

Yeah dreg gunner and not full charge against scab bruisers.

I like to spam void into horde at only 50%~ charge.

Also I play flurry surge void.

[near wyvern]

Shreik has difficulties with verticality, not walls

[radiant frigate]

that must have been it

makes sense

[mossy oyster]

@upper sun psyker with 0 brain fuck over the team with soul blaze

💢

[halcyon gust]

How in the fuck

[mossy oyster]

that msg will live in clads head until he gets ASS

[upper sun]

unironucally true

also i just realized one thing missing from the crafting update

account inventory 💀

i really dont wanna build a 15th ds4

[mossy oyster]

Need more load outs

[nocturne dust]

Didn't they say you would keep all your weapons? Or is that not what you mean?

[mossy oyster]

without the use of a mod

[upper sun]

not that

i mean unified inventory

like being able to use my psyker ds4 on my zealot

[nocturne dust]

ah

[mossy oyster]

If I move my soyker ds4 to zeal it’s over lmfao

[radiant frigate]

i would like it if shared items were actually shared across characters

like vt2 jewelry

but nooo

it all has to be separate because Yes

[upper sun]

all they have to do is add a vault like in borderlands 2

put sword in vault change char then pick it up

[mossy oyster]

Ogryn ds4

[upper sun]

bronx pick better

NO WAIT

PICKAXE ZEALOT

[radiant frigate]

power sword zealot

[tired estuary]

zealot would use psword worse than vet tbh

[nocturne dust]

That's better but I'd definitely prefer just being able to use the shared weapon between all characters, lol.

[mossy oyster]

I actually want zealot with pickaxe

[radiant frigate]

elaborate

[mossy oyster]

we can be trusted with a weapon that has thrust and power blessings

[upper sun]

ye

but we take what we can get

[upper sun]

🙏

so tru

i wont even use thrust for more than 1 stack i swear

[mossy oyster]

that’s why they gave crusher thrust and power blessings

such “diversity”

[tired estuary]

psword doesn't get shit out of attack speed and vet is higher general melee dmg, all zealot gets is being able to use special while poxwalkers are mashing on you

[upper sun]

thrust is so under used

[radiant frigate]

"this weapon sucks, how do we fix it?"
"add slaughterer to the blessing pool lmao"

[nocturne dust]

but funny bonk

[upper sun]

bruh maul stacks thrust 1 per heavy attack

no matter how quickly you hit the heavy attack

[mossy oyster]

Also I’ve finally noticed it why soyker knife is the real hard mode zealot

we have no Atk spd

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[mossy oyster]

(Next patch different though)

[radiant frigate]

but we will, soon

[mossy oyster]

Now soyker will actually just take over knife

and everything else lmfao

[latent mauve]

Die

[mossy oyster]

also cleave + lightning heavies + mk6 heavy attacks

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-hell-evil-smile-evil-grin-close-up-gif-16483956

[mossy oyster]

Face the truth dorn

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-happy-happysteam-steam-gif-1779654035932426850

[latent mauve]

Die harder

[mossy oyster]

If you want actual carpal tunnel you play knife without Atk spd

[nocturne dust]

I don't see how atk spd fixes carpal tunnel.

[mossy oyster]

I don’t see how you aim void at feet to solve gunner problems

guess we both don’t know things

[nocturne dust]

Easily

😏

[blissful solar]

cuz without attack speed you should have some sort of additional damage, reducing how much you must click

that's my theory anyway

[nocturne dust]

[blissful solar]

yeah that's fair the dude said the opposite of what I just said

[nocturne dust]

indeed

[blissful solar]

so honestly I don't know how it could make sense

[radiant frigate]

does anyone else think ds2 lights look and feel so weird that it looks like you're lagging or is that just me

[vestal fulcrum]

it's just you

But I'm of firm opinion that light attacks on DS other than DS4 are generally a travesty

[jovial juniper]

If you go light heavy

There's this small animation of raising the arm

[tired estuary]

even if it reaches good BPs I'm still gonna use opportunist or slaughterer over thrust on zcrusher, I just don't like thrust at this point kinesthetically

[radiant frigate]

what does opportunist do exactly

[plucky flax]

What's opportunist? But skullcrusher and slaughterer combo on crusher should be a no brainer no?

It'd make me play crusher cos right now combat axe is just better in everyway.

[tired estuary]

rending vs staggered enemy, rn afaik its only on shock maul and its stinkier than other dmg options for that weapon

slaughterer probs better tho yeah

[radiant frigate]

imagine if weapons had some baseline level of performance that is not entirely dependent on The Correct Blessings

would that be crazy or what

[tired estuary]

yeah its called ciag

[radiant frigate]

that is weapon, singular

not weapons, plural

[tired estuary]

tbf zcrusher isn't really changed by blessings, just helps its dmg

also gonna matter way less with crafting update

[mossy oyster]

WHAT you dont want to rely on an inherently broken RNG system????

(wont be RNG anymore after the itemization but)

why would we make items good when we can just make busted blessings

[upper sun]

thust doesnt stack at the same rate on all weapons

you're thinkinf of thammer stack speed and applying it to everything

Thrust goes on everything

[radiant frigate]

more than that, weapons as they are should be more indicative of how they perform

like vt2

where weapons just do what they do

and blessings are just neat little extras

rather than "this weapon is good because it can get good blessings"

[mossy oyster]

I agree with that system

only issue is if fatshark wants to change it to that

as opposed to 2 years of this (current system and shit we have)

[steel flame]

ya know, scriers shotgun with manstopper/scattershot

kinda silly

being able to sit at litteral 100% crit chance for extended periods of time go brrrrr

[upper sun]

hell yeah

only gonna get worse with manstopper buffs

[mossy oyster]

manstopper T4

scriers

scattershot

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-vs-maho-sukuna-slice-sukuna-slash-sukuna-cleave-sukuna-attack-gif-3564216804798056365

(also +100% cleave on melee scaling with peril)

why yes I wanted my soyker to have zealot levels of horde clear if not more

[hearty dagger]

So i just realised

Shotguns are going to be great for fueling peril with the new reload perk

Special round counts as a reload, probably lower peril gen because it's just one shot but you're constantly doing it

[upper sun]

what were they thinking

[mossy oyster]

someone at fart shark

really likes soyker

and wanted him to be space wizard zealot

I guess

[hearty dagger]

Honestly, i don't really have cleave problems on psyker

Even with DS4

[mossy oyster]

me neither

if I had a god rolled mk6

id use it so much

[hearty dagger]

So that just seems like a "eeeeeeh" node

[mossy oyster]

(I just run executor on mk3)

thats my cleave powerup

[restive ice]

im gonna run antax caxe without bm

[hearty dagger]

Esp. because of the peril scaling, it's easiest to use with a force sword.

...Which also have good enough cleave.

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/murray-joker-funny-unfunny-whenthe-gif-19402158

DORN IS GONNA PERILS OF THE WARP HIMSELF AND YOU'RE LAUGHING?

[mossy oyster]

but they have a node that prevents self nuking

: )

[hearty dagger]

And esp. Illisi doesn't have problems with cleave

[hearty dagger]

That node is going to be great honestly

High wound psyker with the peril suicide bombs

[mossy oyster]

its going to be great for people who cant edge

properly

or people who want to kamikaze

build

best of both worlds

[hearty dagger]

Terrorist Psyker build when

[mossy oyster]

the casuals get use out of it

and the sweatlords get use out of it

[hearty dagger]

I don't think sweats will use it all that much

It's going to be great for memeing though

[upper sun]

the fucking maelstrom is hunting grounds again

[restive ice]

me with 5 wounds and a ceaseless barrage brauto

[mossy oyster]

wrong

me and clad are doing

[restive ice]

they cannot stop us

[mossy oyster]

+3 wounds soyker

with scriers/smite

and self nuking

[upper sun]

YES

[mossy oyster]

the group of 6 crushers when I perils of the warp them

https://tenor.com/view/jackass-jackass3d-explosion-flying-jackass3d-ending-gif-24900912

[upper sun]

im gonna use rending purge aswell

so i can cancermaxx

[mossy oyster]

LOL

rending so I can nuke easier

[upper sun]

wait

lemme check

621 on crusher rn

[hearty dagger]

I'm definitely grabbing Surety of Arms for shotgunning

[upper sun]

655 with uncanny

[hearty dagger]

25% reload speed on psyker for basically free is fucking insane

[upper sun]

jesus chrit

it stacks

rending stacks with perils of the warp

[plucky flax]

That's the easiest one to farm ASS.

[upper sun]

not for me

most of my deaths so far are on dogs

[plucky flax]

It's just hishock with dogs and they run in a straight line.

How do you even get dogged. D:

[upper sun]

my team dies

[plucky flax]

Also dogs don't spawn during events.

[upper sun]

then i get dogged

[plucky flax]

You should just keep your teammates alive.

[upper sun]

there is no way ur agent

[restive ice]

have you tried dodging

[upper sun]

he would never say that

no

[plucky flax]

Use assail?

[restive ice]

what about pushing

[plucky flax]

Throw a few at dogs and PC take care of the whole pack.

[upper sun]

#darktide-pics-vids message

zealot doesnt have assail

[plucky flax]

Then abuse position right next to a door or something.

Dogs is by far the easiest maelstrom imo.

[upper sun]

eh yeah i should have ran to the psyker

[plucky flax]

Just stupid puppies running to get whacked.

[mossy oyster]

waiting for clad to get stable internet

so I can suffer on EU servers

[upper sun]

the poxburster there split us up

[restive ice]

waiting for clad to not get railed by pox hounds

[upper sun]

same

[plucky flax]

uwu

[upper sun]

no you know what

I WILL DO HUNTING GROUNDS

[plucky flax]

It's the dogs+muties+bursters that's the cursed modifier.

[lyric burrow]

If you take assail you simply win

[upper sun]

Its just hunting grounds

[weary crane]

Smite :

[upper sun]

no we play zealot like real men

[lyric burrow]

Oh on zealot

[restive ice]

kid named choke points:

[upper sun]

then we play trauma psyker on scab melee like cowards

[mossy oyster]

but the power fantasy of doing 5HP per tick to wave of hunting grounds with smite

then I venting shriek with flames

[lyric burrow]

Uh take hsword kill 45 of them per swing idk

[mossy oyster]

and stunlock dogs more

[plucky flax]

Smite is too OP I refuse to use it.

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[upper sun]

sorry my hands are only for rashad

[lyric burrow]

Ew

[mossy oyster]

clad

you use rashad

AND DONT HAVE ASS?

maybe im not helping after all.........

[upper sun]

yes

[weary crane]

Whenever I use it there is always one goddam bruiser in front of me who doesn't get electrocuted

[upper sun]

😭

[plucky flax]

If you can't deal with dogs using the most op melee weapon on zealot I dunno.

[upper sun]

not dogs

one dog

itss always the one fucking dog

[mossy oyster]

kid named Tknife

when dogs show up

[restive ice]

[lyric burrow]

Kid named push spam

[latent mauve]

Second

[lyric burrow]

Fr tho dogs can be jank

[latent mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-stab-thinking-arya-got-gif-14033550

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah it chains weirdly. So if a guy run in front of you when you are stunting a horde far away he doesn't get stunned.

[lyric burrow]

Mainly because of the knockback

[summer prairie]

Staring at the cleave code again and still not seeing why the cleave node wouldn't also affect ranged attacks

[weary crane]

Hounds on their way to bunny hop across the entire map, silently and then immediately pounce on you in 0.000001 seconds:

[restive ice]

FROM IVY

UP MIDDLE

[mossy oyster]

admin hes doing it backwards

[restive ice]

THROUGH OUR CONNECTOR

[weary crane]

They scripting fr

[near wyvern]

Trauma users be like 🤷

[steel flame]

Wanna bet fatshark will fuck up the code for non warp attacks quell peril and not make it once per attack but once per damage instance like how mettle was XP

Insta quell shotty

[lethal lagoon]

MFW when I'm more excited about how they'll break the game with some crazy build bug than the actual update;

Infinite peril incoming

[tired estuary]

can't wait to see what new blessings apply to assail for no fucking reason

[upper sun]

update

actually was kinda easy

played 1 room with bots changed teams 2 twice

one person dc cheesed a bit

but I DID IT

[lyric burrow]

I hate that dc cheese

Congrats tho

[tired estuary]

it's so pathetic lmao

[lyric burrow]

Like are you really so incapable of dealing with your mistake that you cant wait 5 minutes

Surely this is the best road to improvement

[upper sun]

like ragequitting i get

ok i fucked im doing something else now

but I DID NOT FUCK UP THIS NEVER HAPPENED LALALA

thats a lot worse

clip of the day

[plucky flax]

Why you love getting dogged?

[jovial juniper]

What the hell

[upper sun]

i love dogs ok?

[upper sun]

bot resat when someone joined

or or the more likely answer

[restive ice]

ong i swear clad loves getting knotted

[upper sun]

the emperor wants me to get A.S.S.

[mossy oyster]

clad

get atomas elite guard

more better

[upper sun]

ill get it eventually if i keep playing maelstroms

[unreal wasp]

Mmm, Smiting a horde and then running into them with H1, L combos from Indignatus Maul with High Voltage IV

Or Staff-bound Smiting a Mutant and then cattle prodding them with the same maul

[mossy oyster]

are you trying to get ASS rn

clad

[willow parrot]

Idk if anyone has made one of these yet but heres my cheap guess

[upper sun]

i did my maelstrom of the day

[mossy oyster]

retired already huh

[upper sun]

im honggie

[steel flame]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b23c1db-8505-44e8-a1a0-628b0ca9db1c/kablam-sciers-shotgun

More testing is needed

[fresh reef]

insane game

[radiant frigate]

where pants

[steel flame]

Everyone always asks, "where is pants?" but never, "how is pants?"

[void mulch]

I ask "why is pants"

[fresh reef]

no pants needed

[wind spruce]

Like a true chad

(It's so much better)

[plucky flax]

Void charges even slower than trauma.

Without flurry it feels so bad even though I have 79% charge rate.

[upper sun]

tbh the crit chance form surge now is huge

i think atlas tested nexus/surge and flurry/surge and said they were roughly the same

but i bet now flurry surge is gonna be better

[wind spruce]

You forgot to do the scriers gaze node.

[radiant frigate]

shieldy one is no boom for sure

[fresh reef]

who needs pants when you have thighs like these

[wind spruce]

I can never go back

[wind spruce]

It's the one at the end that requires three points

The other ones all have the same art as current nodes. The shield one is the toughness DR

[upper sun]

everyone

put on the pants

[fresh reef]

YOU CANNOT MAKE ME

[upper sun]

i wish fatshark would add a negative toughness dr multiplier for all the nude people but never ban the mod

[radiant frigate]

I SHAN'T

I WON'T

YOU CAN'T MAKE ME

[wind spruce]

Neked mod = difficulty 6

[upper sun]

oh no

someone get the holy boltgun

[radiant frigate]

YOU'RENOTREALYOU'RENOTREALYOU'RENOTREAL

[fresh reef]

15% extra health damage

[willow parrot]

i did but i don't care to repost the edit

[wind spruce]

(It's the last one that requires three points)

[steel flame]

Of course that put soul drinker miles away from the fire talents

[willow parrot]

I'm really not sure why soul drinker is where it is

swapping Soul Drinker and Perilous Assault makes the most sense to me

[steel flame]

It's cause crit chance

[willow parrot]

if the point isn't to have them be rarely used

[steel flame]

Mmmm

I think I can still swing my fire trauma build through it, I'll just need to sacrifice a 5% crit chance node and one of the top quelling takents

Also 100% cleave on surge surge staff m1 gonna be fuckin insane

[sacred crane]

hello again siblings i am once asking again if we have gotten new psyker weapons

[steel flame]

End of the month

Look at the blog

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/unlocked-and-loaded-weapon-blessing-and-class-changes-balancing-patch-notes-pt-1/98480

[jovial juniper]

Shame, pants look good AF

[sacred crane]

wait is psyker getting new nodes?

[wind spruce]

Tons of them

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/4567301015221622989

[sacred crane]

seems i better start playing again

[languid tusk]

is this a buff or a nerf for psyker ?

[steel flame]

A lot of new nodes

Massive massive buffs

Some of the new one are 100% gonna get nerfed

They are so good

[wind spruce]

I don't.

[sacred crane]

also seems we are gettig all the other weapons

[wind spruce]

Strips the build bare

[steel flame]

It's gonna be about the same. Wish I could get both the crit aura AND the crit node

[sacred crane]

so this will all be out by end of this month?

[steel flame]

I require all the crit chances

[fresh reef]

I'm officially an EE hater

[wind spruce]

I should have the crit aura in this picture. There's no reason not to

[fresh reef]

I'm convinced you just don't need it if you can learn to dodge

[jovial juniper]

Oh, deja reve moment

[steel flame]

You have the cool down.

[fresh reef]

shotgun pack, out in the open, and I just stood there and slid every once in a while
zero hp damage taken

[wind spruce]

... "should have"

[wind spruce]

25th

[fresh reef]

I put my pants back on

for the sole purpose of wanting to wear green

[upper sun]

sir

there is no logical argument you can present that'll stop me from thrusting

[wind spruce]

In utterly unconvinced thrust will be the go-to on duelling swords

[broken carbon]

horde clear

[upper sun]

same

thrust+power on single target hit

uncanny WHO?

[broken carbon]

in some situations, holding a heavy for thrust is weaker than just attacking again

[wind spruce]

Plus DS already oneshots most things

Crushers and maulers you want uncanny

Monsters you want relentless strikes or whatever it's called

So it's literally only good for bulwarks and mutants ??

[upper sun]

i dont have to look for mutie weakspots if i do 60% extra damage

[wind spruce]

Yes you do if you want to oneshot

[upper sun]

thats why i have thrust

so i can ignore weakspots

[wind spruce]

Thrust body shot won't one shot

[upper sun]

how do u know

[wind spruce]

Bad maths

[upper sun]

3 warp charges and medium peril and maniac t4 it will(guessing <)

[wind spruce]

You need three bodyshots to kill mutants

[broken carbon]

if u smell bad yeah

[upper sun]

thrust will fix it

[wind spruce]

49% × 1.6 = 79%

Thrust weakspot let's you remove maniacs perk though

[upper sun]

im removing uncanny

[radiant frigate]

thrust is a tupid blessing!!

[wind spruce]

For relentless strikes, right? RIGHT?

[upper sun]

yes

[radiant frigate]

especially because it's mostly on blunt weapons!!

[tired estuary]

tupid

[radiant frigate]

yes

tupid

[upper sun]

except chaxe for some stupid reason

[wind spruce]

They should change it to Pointless Procrastination

[radiant frigate]

plus the tooltip lies

[radiant frigate]

Big Wallop

more accurate

[wind spruce]

Big Swing Big Ding

[steel flame]

Thrust is only going to push the D4 into even more overkill on 90% of enemies and won't push it into any new thresholds except maybe on blessed enemies. It will only really benefit boss damage

[jovial juniper]

Good

[wind spruce]

Yep, that's my thoughts

[fresh reef]

Mk5 DS with thrust 🙏

[steel flame]

True true

I'll probably still run rampage on my d4

[strong gulch]

I can see thrust being good if you tend to fumble with inputs.

Outside of that, part of DS's whole thing is speed.

[steel flame]

But Im looking forward to what the new blessings will do for the other mks

Can't wait to see how insane d4 m1 is with 100% cleave talent

[fresh reef]

Imagine if Surge Surge Scrier's will be able to rival the Columnus

[strong gulch]

SSS

[tired estuary]

I hope surge only affects surge lmb like with trauma

[strong gulch]

Surge surge with the m1 blessing.

Maybe they could count rmb trauma as range damage now

[wind spruce]

It's gonna be so sick. Plus the extension to scriers from weakspot kills 🥵

[steel flame]

Also excited to see cleave talents effect on surge staff m1 spam

[eager horizon]

I'm thinking up some possible future penances. Any of ya'll got anything to contribute for Psyker Penances?

Lighting Rod. Stun X Ogryns in a single cast of smite.

Overdrive. Complete a map while at red peril for 75% of the match, on malice difficulty or above.

Stunblock. Force a mutant to drop a teammate by stunning them.

Warp Storm: kill X enemies with a single warp attack.

Double Bubble. Have 2 Dome shields active at once.

The Wall. Stagger X specialists with a single psychic shield.

Cast to the Warp Generate 6 warp stacks X seconds after using your combat ability.

[upper sun]

These are nice and engaging

too bad however fatshark will pull some bs like stun a dh or something equally as disruptive

[broken carbon]

overdrive would suck to do

you’d just have to be casting constantly, even in elevators

[steel flame]

Warp storm would be over with a single cast of full charge void staff in a horde

[eager horizon]

What about "Kill X enemies with a single warp Attack, Y times during a single match."

[eager horizon]

I should probably just say X% then, leave it up to the imagination, no?

Or maybe something involving maelstroms. Warp Strom

What's a good task for Psykers to try and accomplish during a maelstrom? Just generic Warp Damage?

[late sapphire]

complete runs doing only / no warp damage

[halcyon gust]

Or into a Gunner, Shotgunner, or Rager pack

[halcyon gust]

Complete a Heresey or higher difficulty Maelstorm mission using only Warp damage

[strong gulch]

Stagger x number of enemies with staff bonk.

[eager horizon]

Ooh, I like this one

[eager horizon]

This one is also good

[ornate hamlet]

I want thrust on the staff so I can stagger monstrosities at 3 stacks

[upper sun]

change ur name to staff bash enjoyer because i think ur even known more for that

[ornate hamlet]

No

[upper sun]

i hope they remove the bashes in exchange for a unique attack

[ornate hamlet]

I think this is the first time I spoke of it

[upper sun]

u sure?

[ornate hamlet]

If there's anything high school math taught me

I'm never sure

[upper sun]

🤔

now im not either

[ornate hamlet]

Wow ok copycat

[strong gulch]

Thrust on revolver. Better bonks.

I was sleepy during my last mission on zealot last night, and a psyker was just watching me whale on a groaner with revolver bonks. It took awhile.

[jovial juniper]

Mfw 22 cleave becomes 35

[ornate hamlet]

That's just a bow with a magazine

[strong gulch]

revolver boomerang

[eager horizon]

Man, I played the Heck out of Staff Bash on the Playstation 2

[dusky crag]

hrm

[tawdry hemlock]

Do I go for it or not?

Rare for melk to sell good things

[upper sun]

ayooo wtf

im checking my shit rn too

[tawdry hemlock]

I dont why the 80% has less damage than the 79

[upper sun]

oh yeah i have a schizo theory that not all weapons are the same despite being "the same"

[tawdry hemlock]

I dont know if I should go for the sword its slightly better than the one I have

[upper sun]

agent has a surge with 80% damage and t4 maniac it can kill trappers with no crits

mine cant

[broken carbon]

first target probably

[broken carbon]

with nothing on the talent tree?

or with identical builds?

[upper sun]

identical builds

[broken carbon]

hrm

weird

decimal difference maybe

[upper sun]

idk it showed full damage numbers

[broken carbon]

how much do u miss it by

[upper sun]

zero

[steel flame]

Finesse is higher on the 78%

[broken carbon]

u deal 900 damage?

[upper sun]

im talking about surge secondary

[broken carbon]

huh

like

the lightning?

[upper sun]

ye

full charge too

[broken carbon]

right

[upper sun]

actually

[broken carbon]

so how much damage do you miss the trapper one shot by

[upper sun]

wait

very little like 10

i think i realized the issue

maybe my staff had higher charge speed

[broken carbon]

if ur builds and weapons are identical then its probably just a decimal difference then

[upper sun]

so it generated less peril

[broken carbon]

warp rider

[upper sun]

so i got less from warp rider

[broken carbon]

maybe

[steel flame]

Warp rider makes testing hard sometimes

[upper sun]

i mean 1 warp charge fixes the issue

but still

[steel flame]

God I wish there was a mod that let dd work in psykanium

[broken carbon]

it does work, you just need to have them aggrod onto you

DD only selects enemies that have a level of agro on you

so if u use creature spawner and turn off invisibility

they'll get selected

its tedious and annoying

but it kinda works

[steel flame]

I meant when everything is standing still using enemy Spawner to make stuff aggro so I get test a 15 dd stack.is tedious as fuck

[broken carbon]

yah i agree

[steel flame]

Maybe we could make a mod that adds a active dreg bruiser in a box to the psykanium so we can farm stacks from him to test with

Are we able to add objects with mods yet?

....at least the math is easy with dd

But I don't trust what the numbers tell me is SUPPOSED to happen cause fatshark sucks at coding

I remember when pygex and I were mathing out how soulblaze actually worked

And 3/4 of the time weird shit in game would make the numbers differ from the math

[normal matrix]

Any reccs for a build revolving around double shields and ep bb

[steel flame]

Love that build

Columus fits in great for that for boss damage when you reach max peril

Illisi FS is a great pairing for that so you have plenty of crowd clear

A gun works best for it so you can save your peril for bb. And faster fire rate guns pair great with BB chance on attack talent

So Columus, or laspistol 2, or shredder auto pistol

Hear aprigriga AG works great too

[broken carbon]

if ur using EP, you won’t be generating peril on BB though

[steel flame]

With how jank bb targeting is rn, still better to keep it available

[short lily]

Update this week? I can't wait for purgatus buffs

[broken carbon]

i think a gun is better as staves usually do much better with the other 2 keystones

but a staff could work plenty well

[steel flame]

A staff works decent but you start running out of peril to burn in oh shit situations in auric

[broken carbon]

staves have the benefit of quelling extremely fast

[steel flame]

Tru

[broken carbon]

never have i been in a situation where i feel like i need to have more peril

like, where i don’t have the room to quell

[jovial juniper]

26

[steel flame]

#📢news-bulletin

[strong gulch]

Is that the upper or lower damage threshold? Because surge staff does random damage within a certain spectrum. Not talking about warp rider, nexus, oranything else; just the staff.

At low peril mine misses the trapper one shot a lot but not all of the time. That was the reason I was running maniac for awhile, but it does that on a lot man sized high priority targets. So I just got used to charging again or firing a bolt / m1 to finish.

[broken carbon]

the surge does randomized damage????????

that’s fucking absurd

[strong gulch]

Yeah. It's why testing for break points on it is terrible.

[broken carbon]

yet another reason to never use the surge staff

[strong gulch]

ha! valid

[near drift]

real gamblers always pick the surge stuff because they know the elite/specialist one shot is just about to happen

[strong gulch]

gonna win that 50/50 this time

this time for sure

come on 50/50 ... 🙏

rent / mortgage gone

Out in the wild. Hope they're a lmb main.

[tawdry hemlock]

I caved in and I got it

[steel flame]

That's why the damage was higher I meant

But also yeah

Noice

[steel flame]

Put shred 4 on it and crit chance and wait for the update

Blazing spirit illisi is gonna be fuckin cracked come the 26

With the changes to scrier and the new fire kills grant crit chance and Regen, + 100% cleave from peril and the new electric dot on heavy attacks from smite

It's gonna be an absolute monster

[potent echo]

I find myself wanting to make a new karsolas but with the patch around the corner

[late sapphire]

I wish the patch had given us access to ogryn weapons

Why can't my psyker hit someone with a huge pickaxe

[robust badge]

with the new patch coming up (braced autoguns and combat shottys), do we still expect the columnus to be the top weapon for boss dmg?

[potent echo]

Yes

It will be even better with the talent changes lol

[robust badge]

ye

[potent echo]

Braced have low finesse, so blegh

[robust badge]

remind me, which ones in particular?

[potent echo]

Shotguns are limited by reloading

[potent echo]

Can't remember exactly but all the gunker support

[robust badge]

ah fair enough

[potent echo]

Faster reload for one

[robust badge]

not too sure about the 25% peril on reload, though on some builds it can work I guess
I use smite for crowd/horde control

[potent echo]

Tranquility Through Slaughter
Non-Warp Ranged Critical Hits Quell 4% Peril.

[robust badge]

Empyric Resolve (-40 peril gen but -30% toughness replenished) looks awesome

[potent echo]

Yea ciag is gonna stay in SG FOREVER

Permanent SG

[robust badge]

no explosion in SG is crazy

[potent echo]

Hopefully it's good for shotguns too if it counts every enemy hit

Yea it just means more staff spam lmao

[robust badge]

honestly it's just what the ability needs, always a bummer when it runs out so fast

[potent echo]

Maybe it will finally reach creeping in terms of power

[potent echo]

It will still run out extremely fast

[jovial juniper]

Agripina shotgun special

[robust badge]

oh maybe i misread, thought it meant it just stays at 100% with the ability active nvm

[potent echo]

You get the 10s after

But that means you won't get the 20% crit chance

[steel flame]

The very thought of having my laspistol passively generate peril, have 100% more cleave AND QEULL ON HEADSHOTS IS LITERALLY MAKIN ME CREAM MA JORTS

[fresh reef]

how we looking, siblings?

[brazen rampart]

Malefic alone is gonna be a huge buff for gunker.

[mossy oyster]

santa

[potent echo]

Smite gunkers lol, lmao even

[primal wing]

I feel attacked 😵‍💫

[potent echo]

New meta gonna be SG EP smite

[ornate hamlet]

we're up all night to get gunky

[kind tide]

Which keystone should I go for?

[ornate hamlet]

The one that fits the rest of your build

[kind tide]

Quality advice

My next question

Which keystones fits well with smite and telekine shield?

[ornate hamlet]

Smite can deal non-zero damage with empowered psyonics, while warp siphon can make the shield have a much lower cooldown and generally buff your damage

[kind tide]

Quality advice

Thank you

[ornate hamlet]

Holy Sigmar, ravage this blessed body

[steel flame]

man i was so close

nearly had a 1million damage game with fire trauma

missed it by 45k

[potent echo]

Gaming

Needs a buff though, weakest staff fr

[strong gulch]

My partner shouted this while ripping some sick nasty farts.

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-o-heam-giga-chad-gigachad-sigma-male-gif-14252379233135682789

audible ass-ripping

[steel flame]

fire trauma is awful

[strong gulch]

Burn your eyebrows off, eyes burning, can actually taste the air ass ripping.

[steel flame]

pls buff

[broken carbon]

enhanced psionics if you plan on using simte with any kind of regularity

[ornate hamlet]

simte

[broken carbon]

explode

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10311420692458175149

[steel flame]

wow as im getting better with scriers shotgun

i can nearly maintain a match long 50% crit rate with my ranged damage

[potent echo]

Popping off, the build

[steel flame]

wish it didnt suck so hard at bosses XP

[potent echo]

Melee uwu

[steel flame]

yeha but if im meleeing im not shooting my shotgun

very lame and uncool

[radiant frigate]

but if you're not meleeing then you're not meleeing

very lame and uncool

[potent echo]

[sinful sleet]

I've been seeing lots of people hating on Smite Psykers but I've ran into Assail only Psykers and its damn worse

[flat nexus]

You should try weapon spec vet, you can easily maintain 100% crit on range if you kill 3 enemies on melee 👀

[potent echo]

Weapon spec built different

[limber silo]

Just looking at the patch notees for the next update

Surge on Surge finally

Also curious to see how Malefic Momentum synergizes with FS

[proper osprey]

It’s getting a buff don’t worry

[limber silo]

Illisi just wrecking harder due to always having MM stacked?

[proper osprey]

We’re gonna be getting a teir 4 blazing spirt

[proper osprey]

Assail is just awful after the nerf

[limber silo]

Assail is not awful, just not op

[proper osprey]

Taking assail into a auric maelstrom is just trolling

[limber silo]

Why do you say that?

[proper osprey]

It never was tbh

[brazen rampart]

Assail is definitely not awful, not sure where you're getting that from.

[proper osprey]

It has no damage and too long of a cooldown, it used to be very good paired with void strike or surge but now it’s not

[limber silo]

I take assail with a trauma build, it covers the weakness quite well imo

[summer prairie]

it's still overpowered actually

[brazen rampart]

"No damage" my dude it isn't meant to be elite hunting, it's meant to kill off chaff.

[limber silo]

It's better to use the right click than left click unless you are taking out packs of shooters

[brazen rampart]

If you want the elite hunting blitz, you use bb.

[limber silo]

I use my trauma in that build for it

[proper osprey]

Yeah anything elite gets deleted by my soulblaze truma with bb

[limber silo]

Are you saying it's awful because you can left click spam and kill everything on screen anymore?

[proper osprey]

Or my scriers gaze purg staff

[proper osprey]

Kinda I just want the old cool down back

I loved it with surge staff

[limber silo]

Damn, just play cookie clicker if you want that gameplay

[potent echo]

Assail bad

[proper osprey]

Now i don’t see a reason to run surge

[potent echo]

Assail bad

[proper osprey]

Right

Soulblaze truma is cookie clicker lol

[potent echo]

Game is too easy either way

[proper osprey]

In fact it’s better that old assail

[limber silo]

I used to be a surge staff hater, but it's grown on me since shock maul came out

I don't use sb trauma

[potent echo]

Instead of fighting each other we should fight the devs, gamers rise up

[proper osprey]

[limber silo]

I haven't gotten the blessing

[proper osprey]

[clear bridge]

I wouldn't immediately dismiss a guy using Assail in Auric Maelstrom

But it wouldn't fill me with confidence either

[limber silo]

Instead of speaking you go somewhere else

Annoying for no reason

[potent echo]

Do you really rather say things like

My playstyle is easier than your playstyle

[restive ice]

rise up

RIIIIIIIIIIIISE UP

FACE THE ELVES

[limber silo]

No, I just think that people having extreme opinions on everything is tiring and people should be more nuanced in general

[restive ice]

TALOS THE MIGHTY

TALOS THE UNASSAILABLE

[summer prairie]

do we really have people in the chat right now suggesting that it's better to take BB into auric maelstorm than assail

[potent echo]

Yes

[restive ice]

TO YOU WE GIVE PRAISE

[limber silo]

Assail is not as good as it was on release, but it has changed and is better at other things nowadays

BB is boring and Smite even more so, but Assail is still fun, if not the beast it used to be

[proper osprey]

Yeah we should build around blitzs

And not our weapons

[limber silo]

I think psyker has an issue where the play is not as engaging as other classes. All of our abilities are kinda boring since they are just passive for the most part

[proper osprey]

[limber silo]

I build around weapons not blitzes

[proper osprey]

I love my passive abilities

[limber silo]

but blitzes should still be useful and fun to use

[proper osprey]

Like old assail

[limber silo]

Assail is still fun. You can do trickshots and stuff with it

[brazen rampart]

I don't see what is so wrong with assail.

[limber silo]

BB and Smite is stare in a direction for a period of time until something happens

[proper osprey]

A shadow of what it used to be

[brazen rampart]

Cope, then.

There's nothing wrong with it.

[proper osprey]

Right

[brazen rampart]

Yup.

[proper osprey]

I should totally take my assail ep in auric maelstrom

[potent echo]

It's still rather OP right now idk why you would wish it to be even stronger

[limber silo]

Blitz for psyker takes a much larger part of gameplay than the other classes. Thus, more care should be taken into making them engaging

[potent echo]

Eepy assail is nice but not having reliable oneshots against shooters and stalkers is kinda blee

[limber silo]

Why use the word OP when it clearly isn't

[proper osprey]

I bet you use ep don’t you

[summer prairie]

it definitely is though

[limber silo]

Overusage of that word is dumb

[brazen rampart]

No, I use DD.

And even without a keystone, assail is fine.

[limber silo]

"Oh this weapon does the job it was designed for well, that means it's OP,"

Nah, it just works

[proper osprey]

Right

[brazen rampart]

You do know that posting emojis as a refute isn't a good way to state your point, right?

[potent echo]

These are some real takes

[brazen rampart]

All I'm hearing is whining that it doesn't play the game for you anymore.

[potent echo]

The same takes that make the game easier every patch

[proper osprey]

Can’t wait for rending on purg staff

[limber silo]

If it completely invalidated other build it would be op like it kinda still is on lower difficulties but the game is not designed for people to lurk in diff 1/2 and spam assail

[proper osprey]

I’ve already gave it

[brazen rampart]

.

[proper osprey]

Assail is a horde clear / sniper

[potent echo]

They are trying to argue that uncanny swapping assail is ""skill""

[proper osprey]

It paired really good with the surge staff and other single target stuff

[potent echo]

It still does

[limber silo]

You know what else pairs really well with single target ranged options? Melee weapons

[proper osprey]

Now since it’s nerfs no one uses it because blaze truma or gun psyker

[limber silo]

Learn to melee and your hordeclear options skyrocket

[proper osprey]

Well yeah that’s kinda a core mechanic

[potent echo]

I'm confused what you mean by no one uses it

[proper osprey]

Right

[limber silo]

Dude thinks because all he does is use blaze trauma and gunker that no one else does anything else either

[potent echo]

I won't use popularity as any indicator of strength either

[proper osprey]

Uhh those are the best well rounded classes for psyker

[limber silo]

"Nooooo, my opinion is right! I've never seen anyone else do this, so it must not exist! Appeal to me and no one else!!!"

[potent echo]

You almost never see blaze trauma and it's one to the best builds on psyker

[limber silo]

Words from the mad

[potent echo]

So blaze trauma bad by your logic

[proper osprey]

Yeah it needs a buff

[limber silo]

Meta slave logic