psyker-class

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, I definitely don't know any canadians.

[broken carbon]

this

[lethal lagoon]

that

[broken carbon]

lmfao

[lethal lagoon]

By chance, do you like Brandon Sanderson?

[lethal lagoon]

Have you ever played haxball?

[broken carbon]

man that sure does sound awfully interesting

(can’t tell if this is a bit or not)

[brazen rampart]

Googled his name to see if I have ever read any of his titles, and I can't say that I have.

[lethal lagoon]

They have completely opposite writing methods for how they tell stories, so I thought i'd ask.

King is a "pantzer" Sanderson plans everything before writing.

[lethal lagoon]

A bit using something that actually happens to me

Profile changes mess with me hard

[brazen rampart]

I'm a fan of low fantasy stuff, tbh.

[broken carbon]

lmfao

real

[broken carbon]

i have changed my pfp twice in the last like 5 years

i had the same pfp for 4-5 years

[brazen rampart]

I really like the Eragon books, for example.

[broken carbon]

and then switched to the bag of milk pfp for about 6-9 months-ish

[lethal lagoon]

Eragon was probably a pantzer, the author being a kid and all

Or maybe that means the opposite

[broken carbon]

then this pfp because murder drones is so peak

[brazen rampart]

I don't even know what that term means.

[lethal lagoon]

It means you write with no future plan

[brazen rampart]

Oh, I see.

[lethal lagoon]

Just let the characters do what they want is how it's often described

[brazen rampart]

Either way, I found that the world Paolini created there to be very interesting.

Especially since he released his newest book in the series with Murtagh as the main character.

One of my coworkers had it and I asked to borrow and read it to scratch that low fantasy itch I've had for a while.

[lethal lagoon]

Given the webnovel topic earlier, you can google "Legend of Ling Tian" and easily find a free site for my favorite low-Chinese Fantasy novel.

[lethal lagoon]

I don't know what that means, but you seem cool

[brazen rampart]

I've read lots of web novels and I've come to the conclusion that I don't like them.

[broken carbon]

u are freak

[brazen rampart]

I'll check that one out, just for the sake of it, though.

[broken carbon]

i beat u in haxball

[lethal lagoon]

Japanese, Korean, or Chinese?

[lethal lagoon]

There's literally no universe that happened.

[brazen rampart]

Mostly Chinese, but I've read a couple Korean and Japanese ones, too.

[lethal lagoon]

webnovel quality has a huge variety.

Especially chinese

[brazen rampart]

That was years ago, though.

[lethal lagoon]

Lord of the Mysteries and the Legendary Mechanic are two GOATs.

If you hate those, you can probably write off all chinese novels

[brazen rampart]

I'll look into them.

[lethal lagoon]

I have never lost a haxball game in my entire life, no cap on stack frfr.

[broken carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/cyn-murder-drone-murder-drones-liam-vickers-md-gif-3621562685138131629

[lethal lagoon]

Unironically had a Haxball dream about me and didn't let go

It's not you, it's me.

[broken carbon]

it did happen though

[lethal lagoon]

That's functionally impossible.

[broken carbon]

it’s not me, it’s you

[lethal lagoon]

I literall won 1v2

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, you aren't clown-core enough

[broken carbon]

that never happened

liberal

touch funko

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

The internet is such a weird place.

Because I'm not supposed to be able to unironically understand and use the current young gen's lingo.

Like that's not in my wheelhouse

It's not a thing.

It's historical

[lavish glade]

Zoomer brained

[lethal lagoon]

I mean yeah, I feel younger.

Young and hip like the rest of them

[broken carbon]

lmfao

[lethal lagoon]

[broken carbon]

my generation

u say this like i’m 15 years old

[lethal lagoon]

Sigma isn't your gen?

I didn't mean to imply it was.

[broken carbon]

not really

[broken carbon]

oh lmfao

[lethal lagoon]

No ,no, that was a statement with a question mark

[broken carbon]

i just find it funny lol

[lethal lagoon]

Not a question

Me too

[potent echo]

Talking to 15 yos

Are we Minecraft YouTubers

[broken carbon]

i’m confused

[lethal lagoon]

Unfortunately my sub count is too low to do that.

[broken carbon]

no we haven’t hit a million subs yet

lmfao

atlas

[lethal lagoon]

No.

[broken carbon]

u n i are like dis 🤞

[lethal lagoon]

Wtf

There's no peace sign yellow fingers?

[broken carbon]

yeah there is

[lethal lagoon]

So I can't say, \ / like this?

[potent echo]

I find it hard to believe people still type u

[lethal lagoon]

^

You are old as fuck meow

[potent echo]

: ✌️

[lethal lagoon]

older than me honestly

[broken carbon]

✌️

[lethal lagoon]

✌️

I hate it

[potent echo]

Also 🤏

[broken carbon]

i stole it from other people

[potent echo]

Boomers

[lethal lagoon]

You are 36, and my mind can't be changed.

[broken carbon]

[lethal lagoon]

You are literally pulling out new gray hairs in the mirror

That's your morning.

A stark shiny reminder of your impending mortality.

And then you eat boiled eggs.

[potent echo]

Still having hair to pull out

[lethal lagoon]

👨‍🦲

How do I not have a Baldge

This is a sin.

[lethal lagoon]

Why is that animated so well?

[potent echo]

Any real freaks in the chat add coffee into softboiled eggs

[lethal lagoon]

I do that with raw eggs

[potent echo]

[lethal lagoon]

Softboiled is generally wild though

[broken carbon]

no im immortal actually

i’m just cool like that

[lethal lagoon]

I do raw egg, blended, while the coffee machine makes my coffe.
Add a scoop of collagen
Add the coffee
blend
add protein powder while blending.

Hopefully egg heats up enough to be safe

Richest country in the world's food standards

Like Slayyy

But literally.

Literally just slayed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdrEIGeDY2Q

[lethal lagoon]

When other people say forever alone, they mean til death, you mean it literally

[broken carbon]

yeah but it’s okay cuz i have 2 wolves in me

and they’ll keep me company

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-playing-happy-wolves-gif-21967553

these r the wolves

[lethal lagoon]

Yes officer, I'd like to report a crime.

[broken carbon]

what is the crime

enjoying a meal?

a succulent chinese meal?

[lethal lagoon]

Stop talking when you literally have a wolf inside of you

[broken carbon]

ok

ur the one that made it like that

[lethal lagoon]

Stop saying ur

[broken carbon]

not me

[broken carbon]

ur weird

why

[lethal lagoon]

Oh god, 33 liberal in the channel

[broken carbon]

huh

[lethal lagoon]

Doesn't match your age.

[broken carbon]

u don’t even know how old i am

[lethal lagoon]

It was a bad joke about the "weird" thing.

[broken carbon]

oh lmfao

[lethal lagoon]

I have an idea of it.

[broken carbon]

guess

[lethal lagoon]

College aged, or 24.

[broken carbon]

close

very close

[potent echo]

Don't stop

[broken carbon]

i’m actually the ripe old age of 3 years

sorry

[broken carbon]

this just gave me fucking whiplash

like actually stunned me out of my text lmfao

[potent echo]

🫃

[lethal lagoon]

"I met someone in a discord and had long conversations but it turns out they were actually 3"

[broken carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-cat-cat-angry-cat-cat-face-cat-forehead-gif-4731341898773190051

[broken carbon]

kids r growing up faster and faster nowadays

[lethal lagoon]

Okay, you just made it weird

I change my guess to 26

[potent echo]

24 trimesters old

[broken carbon]

wrong direction

[lethal lagoon]

Ew.

[broken carbon]

that is

not what i meant

and you know that

[lethal lagoon]

Considering you lie about winning haxball

I dont know what I know

[broken carbon]

it’s not a lie though

[lethal lagoon]

Prove it

[broken carbon]

u just for outskilled man

sry to tell u

[broken carbon]

can’t

in bed

comfy

:3

[lethal lagoon]

I will not allow my true love for the game be sullied by this...

This....

Who are you again?

[broken carbon]

bested by this

this thing

[lethal lagoon]

I dont recongize your profile

[broken carbon]

dementia

[lethal lagoon]

Dementia isn't just memory, it can skip around. You remember everything, but suddenly you can't shower.

Crazy fucking diease.

[broken carbon]

yeah

i have an aunt with it

she’s got early onset

it is very scary

if i ever get dementia i just want someone to like

make sure i don’t have to live with it

[lethal lagoon]

Everyone says that, but ultimately most people just wanna live

[broken carbon]

not me tho

not in a “heh i’m so edgy and different” way

but like

i’ve seen how it goes before

i would rather be dead than go through that

[lethal lagoon]

Okay, down to 19.

[broken carbon]

too far

[lethal lagoon]

I can't think of a good example to disprove your point that I can also type here

[broken carbon]

which point

[lethal lagoon]

⚽

[broken carbon]

rather being dead than having dementia?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, everyone thinks that way, until they are actually in that impending scenario, and even while still all there.

People largely choose to live.

[broken carbon]

i’m sure for many people

not me though

[lethal lagoon]

[broken carbon]

that is something i am certain of

[lethal lagoon]

Hopefully, you'll never be there, do your meditations, don't eat too much sugar, exercise 5 times a week.

[broken carbon]

too late

[lethal lagoon]

[broken carbon]

ate 6 cups of sugar

doomscrolled all day

never got out of bed

[lethal lagoon]

Oh you had 1 drink at dunkin donuts.

No big deal

[broken carbon]

currently dementiamaxxing

[broken carbon]

LMAO

that’s so insane to me

it’s like

216 grams right?

[lethal lagoon]

I remember it being 2k calories

so with some fat, that sounds right

[lethal lagoon]

185 unless they got a new one.

"as much sugar as 14 donuts"

Jesus, can't save you now, Christ.

[broken carbon]

yeah

that’s insane

[lethal lagoon]

No one ordering it is actually reading the label.

[broken carbon]

one sip of that would probably kill me tbh

[lethal lagoon]

America is not made for the weak of stomach or the strong of mind.

[nocturne dust]

I am weak of stomach and in America, can confirm America wants to kill me

They put milk in too many things that have no business having milk.

[brazen rampart]

Lactose intolerant detected, lethal force engaged.

[quartz barn]

The pumpkin spice from starbucks was the same

Didnt contain any pumpkin either xd

[potent echo]

Tried watermelon and coconut milk latte the other day

Not American though

[plush tendon]

suggestions on what to change on this?

[vestal fulcrum]

At the very least change the Weakspot damage perk. The blessings are OK, the other perk is OK.

[mossy oyster]

only thing you’d want is flak instead of melee weak spot or maniac

and upgraded precog 4 is the ideal

if ur talking about direct upgrades from that current setup

[vestal fulcrum]

What does Flak do for the DS?

[mossy oyster]

idk I’m not a numbers nerd

I just get god rolls and go kill shit

[vestal fulcrum]

Maniac sounds more sensible given how you can dunk Mutants with it

[mossy oyster]

I was thinking flak for overall and maniac if you just wanna 1 shot muties and ragers all day

[latent knoll]

why does assail exist? it feels like it should have been a staff ability. has anyone been able to get some good synergy out of it?

[mossy oyster]

all of these

synergize with assail

(assail can crit)

[latent knoll]

ok ill try it out again. what about during the cooldown? any suggestions?

[mossy oyster]

assail isnt something you should be using very independently imo

its something you mix with your other DPS options

in the heat of the moment

assail only solos in sitatutions like (its only poxwalkers/its wave of muties or dogs/ or if you wanna rip through gunners/shotgunners its pretty good)

once you get to the actual difficulties like heresy (im gonna get elitist shit for that) and damnation assail kinda falls off

cause the amount of armor spam sometimes

[mossy oyster]

this helps

and not hyper focusing on wanting to use assail

goes a long way

(it regens pretty fast)

also if you wanna know when assail crits (its the purple trail as opposed to normal blue) IIRC

but you wont have to guess with true aim

[quartz barn]

You want maniac for the onetap, flak doesnt do a lot since you already onetap specials like the flamer and you want to headshot regular enemies

[mossy oyster]

yea its annoying to tell proper BPs since 1 i dont actively search for them and 2 my ds4 is just stupid

[quartz barn]

Melee scabs dont have flak heads, and it doesnt matter vs scab gunners

Ngl this is one of the few i know because it stands out

Otherwise it would just be flak + crit chance, or the rare carapace

Being able to just stand still and mow down a mutant wave with heavies is fun tho

[mossy oyster]

dead space 2 machine

🪡 💉

[potent echo]

DS4 I go unyielding+ whatever

I think mine has flak but I might change it when prafting catch

[mossy oyster]

my ds4 has max weakspot / maniacs

and precog / uncanny T4

its an understatement to say its a little ridiculous

[wind spruce]

Calling heresy an "actual difficulty" 💀

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-plane-crash-plane-gif-14140797373455535799

i know i know

[wind spruce]

(Did I satisfy your elitist shit expectation? )

[mossy oyster]

no

im waiting for dorn

kek

[mossy oyster]

(yes)

[wind spruce]

Lel

[latent knoll]

kinda assumed so. fair enough, ill try it out again but it looks like voidstrike is the king of staves

[mossy oyster]

it is

[plucky flax]

Yeah use it with dd talent and voidstrike.

[nocturne dust]

Surge is the clear king of staves /s

[latent knoll]

looks somewhat similar but i will try assail with voidstrike

might help with hordes

[plucky flax]

Why the /s wtf.

[latent knoll]

that arent grouped up in a line

[plucky flax]

It's the real most OP staff.

[wind spruce]

It definitely helps with that

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma on the other hand is the worst by far.

[latent knoll]

it appears to be the weakest when shtf

[plucky flax]

No you use smite and surge together.

Smite when shtf.

[nocturne dust]

Blaze trauma is the worst becuz of rngesus

[plucky flax]

Unlimited power on heretics.

[nocturne dust]

I'll never have a good blaze trauma staff and that's a fact

(until item update)

[plucky flax]

Not worth it even with blazing spirits t4 until they give it more love.

[mossy oyster]

heres my normal void strike /DS4 / Assail setup

[wind spruce]

Any psykers on apac servers want to group?

[plucky flax]

I use UnsanctionedPsyker's void assail build with creeping flames.

[raw coral]

ofc the one that i thought I was gonna shard for potential blessings is a god roll with shit finesse

[mossy oyster]

heres the gunker variant I run (ds4/assail/CIAG)

[nocturne dust]

well, isn't the blessing that gives crit on dodge better than shred for ds4

[upper sun]

malefic momentum needs a buff tbh

[mossy oyster]

just have ur assail crit

with it

4head

[upper sun]

should also get melee power/speed on warp kills

[wind spruce]

Against everything except monstrosities, yeah

[mossy oyster]

depends

imo

I like riposte

but I also like the other dodge blessing better

(like precog)

[plucky flax]

Riposte good shred good it's up to you. I am based so I have a ds4 with rampage and uncanny for horde clear.

[mossy oyster]

maybe im just too dmg pilled/focused

lmfao

[wind spruce]

Precog is pure garbage imo

[nocturne dust]

Psyker doing monstrosity dps

[plucky flax]

(But I also have ds4 with shred)

[wind spruce]

Shit uptime

[mossy oyster]

cant agree

all you need is those 2 seconds to 1 shot whatever you just dodged

thats how I look at it

[plucky flax]

Surge staff good monster damage. Same with burga creeping flames EP bb.

[mossy oyster]

(especially on a ds4/knife)

weakspots/crits go brr

[wind spruce]

If you're critting/hitting weakspots with DS, for sure.

[nocturne dust]

'good' is such an exaggeration there

[wind spruce]

Except that a huge portion of the time you're attacking something before you dodge it

[mossy oyster]

if you are permanently edging at 90% peril with surge crit

[plucky flax]

Don't look at the monster damage. D:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1255978880842600458/image.png?ex=66d8163c&is=66d6c4bc&hm=5cc84f6146898598a9bdedf40bd6e6bddf10c621f807702d5f9a5df262a4f45f&

[wind spruce]

And that's when 6s duration comes into play

[mossy oyster]

im sure you do good boss DPS

[mossy oyster]

i can see that argument but I also enjoy having scriers buffing precog whenever it procs

just different likes/opinions, we have I suppose

(also doubling down on precog the blessing and the scriers node is funny)

[nocturne dust]

You can be the best when everyone else is worse, sure. I don't see what that has to do with Psyker doing good monstrosity damage though.

[plucky flax]

It's really not bad. I have most monster damage 90% of the game on surge.

Even against ogryns and zealots.

Players in my server don't like to hit monsters.

[mossy oyster]

i dont like seeing this argument for the umpteenth time

[nocturne dust]

It's not bad but few things are bad... except unempowered brain burst. shudders

[mossy oyster]

but

soyker has good boss damage

hes just outclassed in that aspect

(unless you're a gunker)

you'd probably out dps race some people

[plucky flax]

Also if you really want to kill monster use gazer mk2 las pistol with dumdum infernus.

[mossy oyster]

roasty heretic

[plucky flax]

Solo monster in under 30s.

[mossy oyster]

mmmm

[nocturne dust]

If I wanted to use gun I would use vet

[mossy oyster]

good mentality

but you cant have it when you're arguing about a classes boss dmg

so

suck it up

we're talking all options a class has

gunker is one of them

[nocturne dust]

I can tho, I would like psyker to be able to boss dps with staff. E z.

[wind spruce]

Scriers has better synergy with riposte than precog

[mossy oyster]

well you're also the guy who says to aim void at people to supress and blast radius for feet shots

so i dont expect much

[wind spruce]

Same with DD

[nocturne dust]

Not my fault you can't read, it's fine.

[wind spruce]

Because finesse stacks additively you're getting less percentage wise as you increase it, and crits are becoming stronger

[mossy oyster]

its ok you said ASS is your evidence as to why we should listen to you

I think thats telling enough

[mossy oyster]

ok now it makes more sense

ive just been annoyed with crits being "noob traps"

cause alot of weapons actually dont really benefit from critting (or have shite finesse)

in this game at least

[nocturne dust]

You accused me of never using voidstrike and I said I earned ASS with it, not that you should listen to me because I have ASS. Who doesn't have ASS? But, again you can't read so it's expected.

[mossy oyster]

its ok keep supressing with void

i think you'll finish the maelstrom in 50 mins

cant say for sure tho

id have to try it

[nocturne dust]

The most telling part of this is that you're never that beyond the other players, and you're almost certainly cherry-picking here

woah why delete

[plucky flax]

I don't want to spam the channel.

Realised the post was way too long.

[nocturne dust]

Reading sure is hard isn't it.

[mossy oyster]

i dont read shit that wont benefit me in any shape or form

so not really

lmfao

[nocturne dust]

You must think I only use the flamer because I mentioned it once.

[mossy oyster]

no but id hate to hear your thoughts/playstyle on it

[plucky flax]

My damage was like the other 3 players combined.

[potent echo]

We back like clockwork

[nocturne dust]

At least I have thoughts.

[mossy oyster]

we do some light trolling

[mossy oyster]

you should suppress those with voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

Not in most of those images

[mossy oyster]

thinking isnt good sibling

[nocturne dust]

and when it was, the overall damage was low

[plucky flax]

Actually no it's not me it's UnsanctionedPsyker I am not that good.

[mossy oyster]

true

you could never be as good as unsanctionedsoyker

[potent echo]

They only play on sedition

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-a-fraud-joe-biden-imposter-fake-liar-gif-18720271

[plucky flax]

All of them were in auric maelstrom/auric histg.

[plucky flax]

I can confirm I have insider info.

[nocturne dust]

[mossy oyster]

😲

did he tell you that surge is the best as propaganda too?

🕵️

[plucky flax]

He said voidstrike is very meh surge is clear.

[potent echo]

Blaze trauma sucks btw

[plucky flax]

But blaze trauma is super bad and need buffs.

[plucky flax]

Burga is for cooking.

[nocturne dust]

This is why the Warp is filled with demons.

Anyway, I'm off to dream of Fatshark adding a 5th class and other impossible things.

[mossy oyster]

finally

the supressinator is gone

any real siblings left

[nocturne dust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/266699970860679168/1181871667585241139/myDeathWasGreatlyExaggerated-Subtitled.gif?ex=6582a2c3&is=65702dc3&hm=f935516435490b1d1ae847872427abd28e7f9d1a546b8b2224afe97bc3e356d0&

[mossy oyster]

anyways not unscantioned soyker

do you run surge with WCs

at all times?

[plucky flax]

PswordPgunPshout still most op?

[mossy oyster]

or could you ask him for me

[plucky flax]

Okay I will ask.

[nocturne dust]

ew is that reddit

[plucky flax]

He said yes unless you want to meme with surge ep smite for fun. Or the funny surge dd assail.

[nocturne dust]

almost as bad as discord, smh my head

[mossy oyster]

surge dd assail sounds

cursed

lmfao

[plucky flax]

But surge wc creeping flames spam is the most op surge build.

[mossy oyster]

ok bet

[plucky flax]

If you spam ability a lot of you can do crazy damage like this.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1275918188265214063/image.png?ex=66d81da9&is=66d6cc29&hm=d7d74bc87ae8a23de9214807cadc7775d018180bfac592c3b98bf9d9fa8edb3c&

[plucky flax]

400k+ warpfire damage without using blaze trauma/burgatus.

[mossy oyster]

just checked and this is my current surge setup

any tweaks?

[plucky flax]

You want to use assail?

[mossy oyster]

yes.....

(i dont mind swapping though)

im open to suggestionz

[plucky flax]

Assail with deimos is alright since assail do horde clear.

But I'd go dd with assail though for true aim.

[mossy oyster]

yeah that was my main point of bringing assail

[plucky flax]

Because it'll let you crit assai way more.

[mossy oyster]

to support my deimos

[nocturne dust]

kinetic deflection

[plucky flax]

Go cdr aura rather than elite damage aura.

[mossy oyster]

I have DD assail on 2 other builds, ive just been trying to make surge work for a while

[plucky flax]

I'll give a suggested build for surge assail.

[mossy oyster]

bet ty

[plucky flax]

What I would run anyway if I was to use deimos and assail surge.

[mossy oyster]

also hows the weps

I assume they could be better in like

2% aspects

[plucky flax]

29/30 so there's a point for you to put somewhere.

[mossy oyster]

really no quietude

[potent echo]

The goated psyker build

[wind spruce]

Only top 1% psykers allowed to spam

[plucky flax]

You don't need quietude with assail.

[potent echo]

I don't run quietude either

[plucky flax]

Throw 3 of them at horde and you get full toughness.

[mossy oyster]

im not super min maxx'd on soyker builds just yet

[plucky flax]

On non assail build I run quietude and no soulstealer.

[mossy oyster]

just got there with zealots

[wind spruce]

Not taking quietude is

[plucky flax]

There's 1 free point though so you can go for it.

[potent echo]

Quietude is nice but I rather get +15 max toughness

[mossy oyster]

being forced to take mind in motion....

society.

[wind spruce]

But toughness gating exists

[wind spruce]

The truth is that DD assail is the best for every ranged weapon

[potent echo]

Yea but also getting shot at 1 toughness or 0 toughness is a huge difference

[wind spruce]

Don't get shot noob

[potent echo]

Then you don't need quietude either

[mossy oyster]

ok

i go for the random option of

putting my last point in 5% TDR

[wind spruce]

Something something a joke about be quiet with that attitude

[mossy oyster]

also 5% ranged damage doesnt include warp attacks right

i think i asked this before but just asking again to be sure

[wind spruce]

Yes it does

It just doesn't include DoTs

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/baki-the-grappler-yujiro-hanma-anime-red-eyes-smile-gif-17479644

[wind spruce]

Like soulblaze and burn

[mossy oyster]

im doing it

cuz i wanna surge max

[potent echo]

SMH my head

[mossy oyster]

I love surge staff I just havent gotten a build for it going yet

[summer prairie]

Does it work with trauma charged attack yet

[potent echo]

Doesn't affect trauma rmb

[wind spruce]

Nope

[mossy oyster]

ok hopefully 5% ranged damage node buffs surge RMB

[potent echo]

I think it affects bubbles

[summer prairie]

my bug report is almost a year old by now

[mossy oyster]

(if not I go 5% TDR)

[potent echo]

And void....?

[potent echo]

Intended

[mossy oyster]

so 5% ranged damage buffs the warp attacks like assail im assuming surge is fine with it as well?

like the rmb

[wind spruce]

Yep

[mossy oyster]

alright bet

thx siblings and not sanctioned soyker

(also since I wanna surge abuse should I drop assail regen for another node)

[potent echo]

I tried my assail EP build again

I hate it

Assail DD is life

[mossy oyster]

I have an assail EP build

(but its cause im using scriers with a revo and knife)

🕴️

[potent echo]

Things just don't die

Doesn't oneshot dreg stalkers yuck

[mossy oyster]

🤢

do siblings actually like battle meditation

or do I just have confirmation bias, because ive got lucky its proc'd for me alot of times

[potent echo]

Yes for EP smite

[halcyon gust]

It has saved me when I overloaded with Flame Trauma a few times and shout is off CD (or I fuck up the CD timing)

[plucky flax]

It'd fuck up with my edging so hard when using blaze trauma

[mossy oyster]

oh i guess thats true

for people who are real edgers battle meditation would throw off their mojo if it proc'd

didnt really think about that 1

[plucky flax]

I like big dumpy 6 stacks creeping flames

[halcyon gust]

Yeah there's that and it can mess up your rhythm if it procs pretty often on ya. Maybe I rarely notice that mid-horde event

[rigid sky]

It's decent in a few specific circumstances

EP smite, scrier's gaze both have synergy with it

Outside of that it's arguably detrimental

[quartz barn]

I like it on void, but tbh thats mostly because ive always had it for that build

[rigid sky]

Transfer void?

I can totally see a goofball build with that and Scrier's working super well

[upper sun]

punishing salvo only works in bursts 😭

whats the point

[potent echo]

Transfer surge scryvoid

[potent echo]

Punishes you

[jovial juniper]

To burst

misses all the shots

[late sapphire]

big dumpy...

[late sapphire]

i don't like battle meditation because it's only like 1% per kill avg

though i do run a very single target focused build

if you're ep smite or purg-ing a horde it can make up for a good chunk of warp expenditure

[rigid sky]

Purgatus has no problem with peril anyway though

honestly it struggles to gain enough peril to get good shrieks and warp rider/warp nexus value

[plucky flax]

Aye you want warp resist dump stat on burga.

And damage.

[mossy oyster]

ok

assail venting shriek with surge

is really fun

(im still just vertigo'd from when EP smite used to unintentionally buffed surge)

that thing was a fucking monster

[mental rock]

I hit 1.2mil damage on my first mission with EP surge

Crazy damage

[mossy oyster]

that thing was crazy man

lmfao

then they fixed the bug and everyone hated EP for a while lmfao

[lethal lagoon]

For me, that was the best day cause I could finally play the build I wanted to try ever since patch 13 dropped.

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

Game-breaking bugs are fun once or twice, but after that I'd rather play the game as intended.

Which meant no EP smite Surge till patch like 15

[radiant frigate]

ep surge was Definitely Something

hmm today i will 2-tap crushers

i stumbled into it by complete accident and all i heard is that surge got reworked

i didn't even know it was a thing

i just made a talent build with what i had from The Before Times

which happened to be surge

[mossy oyster]

I agree

I fucking loved that build to death

but even I knew it had to be old yeller'd out back

it was too insane

[potent echo]

kinda like plasma vets now huh

[radiant frigate]

so today i tried some sg

using any melee that is Not A Force Sword with this makes me feel like i'm just shitty zealot

but it is funny with weapons thathave shred

suddenly good toughness gen due to crit

[potent echo]

yea its kinda nuts

SG needs some melee attack speed to make it more fun

the damage just caps out after some point

and it does nothing for brumo axes

[strong gulch]

Having melee attack speed in either SG or DD would be great.

[mossy oyster]

I dont think I agree with the shitty zealot part

(I feel like a better zealot)

I just dont get to live if I fuck up/misposition

or in other words I like to call it

zealot but hard mode

[potent echo]

zealot without fotf/soc/revenant/martyr

[mossy oyster]

yes

[potent echo]

no crutches!

[mossy oyster]

nope its just a F-1 race car

without any brakes

[restive ice]

you dont need brakes as long as the horn works

[potent echo]

dies spectacularly

[restive ice]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dictator-smile-high-five-helicopter-911-gif-15198162

[iron elbow]

So assail doesn’t do anything to carapace right

[mental rock]

If you Crit they can

But for the most part, no

[lethal lagoon]

True aim "slows down time" at max stacks, giving 15% melee atk spd

[hollow current]

I think it mostly stumbles/stuns on crit.

[jovial juniper]

Assail also ceases to exist

[iron elbow]

What’s considered the strongest of the 3 rn

[strong gulch]

Of the 3 blitzes?

[jovial juniper]

Depends of what you want

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/broly-running-gif-26450098

[crisp yacht]

All strong in there own ways.

[jovial juniper]

But uh, smite scales with enemy density

So

[strong gulch]

Yeah.

[iron elbow]

Just made a psyker a couple days ago and enjoying the hell out of it. Way more than my zealot

[crisp yacht]

Assail is cool and fun

[strong gulch]

EP smite with thicc elite and special packs is absurd. Though it also is a creeping flames and PC enabler.

[iron elbow]

Guessing assail doesn’t cut it in auric as much

[crisp yacht]

It does great.

[strong gulch]

Assail is still really great.

[iron elbow]

Oh nice

[strong gulch]

You do have to be mindful in how you use it tho.

[crisp yacht]

Use it for horde clear and taking out ranged enemies.

[iron elbow]

Do people usually go gun psyker with assail?

[strong gulch]

It won't delete a multi wave horde and a wall of gunners with just spaming shards.

[iron elbow]

So they have something to deal with carapace?

[strong gulch]

yes

[restive ice]

the london experience

[strong gulch]

Always. Psyker has multple tools to deal with crushers and other tanky elites.

[crisp yacht]

That's my go to build right now.

But the gun is kinda used little. Only when at high peril and I need to snipe a special and can't assail.

[iron elbow]

I see

[crisp yacht]

Melee weapon for carapace. Mk4 dueling sword or the deimos with the rending blessing.

[mossy oyster]

DS4 and deimos are both good

for carapace

[strong gulch]

For gunker specifically, assail works well as ammo economy, some interruption, peril gen outside of sciers gaze, can help with horde management (especially because melee is usually for crushers and whatnot; like dueling sword), and is a great weapon on it's own. The talents that buff guns pretty hard also synergize really well with assail.

Knife is also good.

[mossy oyster]

knife is DS4 (hard mode)

(you have 10x less range)

lot less room for error

but the finesse on knife goes absolutely stupid so its worth getting good at

[strong gulch]

Less range for sure, but also more speed and safer in hordes. DS is easier overall tho.

Especially on the hands omg

[mossy oyster]

yeah SG knife speed is kind of like crack

you shouldnt try it

(you'll be addicted to being the fastest thing on atoma)

[restive ice]

https://tenor.com/view/daigo-fgc-fighting-games-esports-button-mashing-gif-17431235

[strong gulch]

The movement speed buffs not being constant can make you yeet yourself into the abyss.

Kill a thing and oopsie you're gone.

[jovial juniper]

Always dodge on stairs

[strong gulch]

Find that one gap in the fence and die.

[mossy oyster]

i dont know about you guys

but recently with knife

gravity has been getting a lil weird

I dodged sideways off a small box and i went so fast it flung me at an upwards angle

like tf2 trimping or something

[strong gulch]

new move tech

[iron elbow]

Can someone show me what a god roll surge staff looks like

[jovial juniper]

Heh, I once flew over some enemies with the knife

[strong gulch]

I have a pretty good one. God roll to me is a 550 with desired perks, blessings, stat distribution. This is the closest that I have. NOT a god roll, but so close.

[restive ice]

-2 warp resist scrap for dockets

[strong gulch]

Perks on surge are a little funny because it's flak with a bunch of other choices that work well.

[iron elbow]

Oh ya that looks fun

So you’re basically just dishing out a lot of crit charged attacks

[strong gulch]

Sliding and casting lightening is the game. Pray for crits and no missed inputs.

I'm very good at exploding.

[iron elbow]

Fuck I want to just take off work and play DT lol

[strong gulch]

based

May work not drain you too much so that you have good brains and energy for the game. 🙏

[potent echo]

EP smite is always there for you at the end of a long day

[iron elbow]

Do most people go EP with smite?

[strong gulch]

In order to do damage with smite, you need EP.

[iron elbow]

Ahh

[strong gulch]

Surge staff or revolver are great to pair with ep smite.

[iron elbow]

The stickied build someone linked me yesterday used warp siphon

[brazen rampart]

Looking at this like Fry from Futurama, frothing at the mouth.

I'm envious of such a staff.

[strong gulch]

Take the talent that gives you an ep stack on elite kill. Once you get the stack, charge up smite and cast. At 85% peril or higher, cast shriek with creeping flames to apply 6 soulblaze stacks and to extend the smite cast. Things will die and proc PC (perilous combustions; doesn't have a cap ouside of the 31 global cap). Now you've killed everything short of bosses and crushers.

[iron elbow]

Sounds fun

[strong gulch]

If it makes you feel any better, it's on my second psyker and not my main.

[strong gulch]

It's scales with enemy density. The harder the game, the better it does.

[iron elbow]

Could you link me the build for this

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

[sturdy tendon]

Smite is usually my oh shit button when running Surge Warp Siphon

[strong gulch]

ye

Smite outside of EP is more of a rarely used utility.

[sturdy tendon]

I use it a lot when dealing with hunting packs

Kind of hilarious how easy they are to deal with

[austere warren]

Got ye thanks.

You got anything for blessing recommendations and personal favorites? Warming myself back up to the game with maelstrom 3s and 4s. I'm expecting to get stuff worth burning and blessing up after I get some more materials.

[radiant frigate]

the fact that SG does not have attack speed is stupid because one modifier is literally called warp speed but it only accelerates your feet

should be called warp feet.

[upper sun]

🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

SO

i have an idea

lets say you have a weapon that you only unlocked one t4 for

[strong gulch]

There is a guide called the Atheneum in the pins. It's info overlode, but there are build recs for weapons and whatnot.

In general I prefer staves. If you want to talk about the nuances of the different guns, I'm not the one to ask. I can tell you what people usually use tho. All of the staves are good. I generally favor surge staff because it tackles what's usually the problem (shooters, elites, and specials) with forgiving aim well.

[upper sun]

what happens if i put it on 20 weapons and leave them to sacrifice for the update

[strong gulch]

TRUE

[upper sun]

i said a couple of hours ago malefic momentum should have a melee buff for warp kills

[sturdy tendon]

Yeah, I sometimes go to Purgatus and then struggle against gunners while my Surge can tackle gunners so easily

[strong gulch]

Purge with EE is pretty good for surviving shooters that you can't quite reach.

[upper sun]

does EE still proc without hitting something?

[strong gulch]

I mean like you're purging a horde and shooters are in the back or something.

I can check tho.

[iron elbow]

How’s the plasma gun

[upper sun]

very strong

[strong gulch]

no

[upper sun]

😭

Keep killing or die

i like it

[iron elbow]

Who is considered the strongest class rn

For auric

[upper sun]

its all good

[sturdy tendon]

Play whatever you find fun

[mossy oyster]

everyone can reliably clutch

except oggy

imo

[iron elbow]

Yeah I wasn’t even asking in terms of making a character, more just curious

I think I’ll be a psyker main for a while

It’s hard for me to imagine clutching super hard on psyker because of the fragility

And it seems more CC based instead of damage

[void mulch]

their CC does a lot of damage in a lot of cases

[upper sun]

Press F at spawn
revive everyone

[mossy oyster]

(gets trapped)

[iron elbow]

Ok fuck it in taking a sick day and marathoning DT

[mossy oyster]

or sniped and knocked back out of the revive

[iron elbow]

if anyone wants to help me run damnations lmk. I’m only level 23

[upper sun]

WAIT

[mossy oyster]

nope

[upper sun]

pls

give me 45 minutes to find the clip

[lethal lagoon]

I'm so ready for you to be bored of the update in like 3 hours tops

That is an interesting question though.

[upper sun]

cope maxxing

[hasty jungle]

If there some kind of stigma towards the Trauma Staff? I've never encountered anyone else in game running it but me since shortly after launch.

I got yelled at recently for running it in fact.

Well okay, not "yelled" but a lot of grief.

Belly aching, if you will.

[steady aurora]

Aint nothin wrong with the ol knowckdown nuke staff

People are odd about judgin other peoples builds

[hasty jungle]

"Haha, why can't you stand up, Crusher horde?" is easily my favorite way to bully Heretics that isn't a recon Lasgun with infernus.

[steady aurora]

Especially smite for some reason

[hasty jungle]

Fair 'nuff.

[strong gulch]

I like trauma an use it a lot. It can cause issues for other players tho. If you knock down a bunch of enemies, it can be hard to see and know what's still alive. Live enemies on that ground block movement, and throwing enemies being teammates isn't great. Also, blasting enemies where the orgyn and zealot are when they need to rebuilt toughness isn't great (especially when there are shooters stripping them of toughness). Scattering gunners and shot gunners can cause more problems than solving them. Flopping enemies can also make teammates miss; so instead of a dead crusher, there is an alive crusher on the ground.

Trauma can also trivialize the game and not let other players do things.

[mossy oyster]

pro trauma tip i remembered

put the blast in front of the enemies

(so they get pushed back and not forward into your teammates body blocking them)

obviously this changes depending on your positioning/map/etc but you get the gist

[strong gulch]

Yip.

You can also blast the back of the horde.

If everything is cluster in a tight space and there are no shooters, I will often times just blast that horde. I want to live freely with the danger circles sometimes.

When you see a vet tho. Just blast em.

[azure bridge]

Hey, question, how much damage can a white dueling sword do to a monstrosity? The psyker aethenium says it's our best bossing weapon but I was curious by how much and for what reasons

[void mulch]

none of the "spells" we have do good boss damage, that's the easiest to hit weakspots with and can build up a lot of crit with the right build

[mossy oyster]

EP brain burst with shriek says otherwise

(if you're comparing boss damage to something like a thunder hammer or burst then yea soyker sucks)

[azure bridge]

Fair but what makes it better than say the knife?

Or the chainsword

We have access to both

[mossy oyster]

soyker should not be chainswording a monstro

if they wanna melee a boss

id say they go with knife or DS4

[azure bridge]

Which would you say is faster at killing them?

[mossy oyster]

well when a boss shows up im probably on my gunker so I just ciag but ive fought bosses with a DS4

if you want which one is faster than the other you'd have to testand also player skill also prob plays a factor here

for 1v1ing bosses

[void mulch]

I'd lean towards DS4 as well, easier of a time with the reach too

though I also tend to just clear every other bit of chaff around so that the other three can solo it and I'll dump some attacks in here or there if there's nothing around

[crisp yacht]

Assail chaff then dump a columnus mag into weakspot. Mk V columnus does decent boss damage.

[azure bridge]

I'm looking to fill my melee slot with my boss slayer

[strong gulch]

Part of what makes DS better for bosses vs knife is DS's superior reach. Both want to hit weakspots.

DS4 Also has high damage vs unyeilding.

[fresh reef]

this bridge fucking sucks

[restive ice]

yeah it's so ass

[fresh reef]

cool bug fact: I was boxed in by a single poxxer, charged by a mutant, and only then cremated

[queen trout]

that should be the bridge of many martyrs

[strong gulch]

Don't dodge slide going up the ramp either. You'll hit an enemy and get slid to the side off fall.

[fresh reef]

aim void at burster
close but I'm safe
0.1s lag spike
shoot burster
die
amazing

[mossy oyster]

LOL

what is up with bursters and soykers today

earlier I was playing refinery delta

we get to the finale section (the little starting bridge entrance to it)

I drop a shield wall down for a burster

it jumps
I shove
It goes through wall & shove

I fly off the map and die

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-triple-h-head-nod-nodding-approved-gif-13272682

[iron elbow]

do you not get lightning storm or enfeeble?

on smite builds

[upper sun]

AAAAAAAAAAA

[strong gulch]

I think it was two days ago on a regular T5, that all of the bursters were immune to pushing or being staggered.

No one could push them. We were scared.

[upper sun]

its been 2 hours

WHY ISNT THIS SHIT UPLOADING

@mossy oyster I give up you're just gonna have to believe me that you can easily clutch with ogryn

[strong gulch]

Only on smite builds. By that I mean you are investing in EP and all of the things for smite.

The standard surge build has smite, but is barely used. That is a surge build and not a smite build.

[void mulch]

1 Mb up? I'm so sorry

[upper sun]

ikno ikno

its very unstable

[radiant frigate]

what's the consensus on sg chainsword

entirely pointless, yeah?

[mossy oyster]

why did our beloved dream that terrible condition up

[mossy oyster]

ok i believe you

(after you get ASS)

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[upper sun]

fuck you send me your address ill mail it

[jovial juniper]

Not really, more crits mean less damage fall off which means faster horde clear

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/garanikor-brady-captain-amiibo-bomb-pizza-gif-13889120

[radiant frigate]

well yes but is there any reason to pick it over any other melee

elite damage is nonexistant unlike some other options

[upper sun]

thats meaningless to me because it wont load

[radiant frigate]

which is most notably just ds

[mossy oyster]

how do u even game clad

[radiant frigate]

crouching pizza hidden pipe bomb

[upper sun]

the emperor himself sends my data packets through the immaterium

[radiant frigate]

is the emperor's bandwidth experiencing a shortage

[upper sun]

so it seems

[mossy oyster]

ah ethernet but warp

i see

[radiant frigate]

if you can't summon the flames directly from hell, store bought is fine

[upper sun]

ill try to find some other video hosting place where i dont have to make an account i think it might just be that website

[mossy oyster]

also what do we think is the best clutch build on a soyker siblings

(and why is it gunker)

[radiant frigate]

depends on what exactly you're clutching against

[mossy oyster]

the indifferent cruelty of the universe

(everyone is dead but you)

[sturdy tendon]

30 ragers

[mossy oyster]

realistically I think if a boss spawns soykers just get shafted

solo anyway

[radiant frigate]

gunker can maybe recover

hehe funny mettle columbus

[jovial juniper]

Horde and mobility with the Mk4
Horde and elites with the XIIIg
If you feel like Illisi isn't up to the task

[mossy oyster]

yea literally

mettle perfect timing EE columnus be like

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-player-rain-bullet-hell-avoid-gif-25730203

[radiant frigate]

anyway i think the best build is obviously mine

everything else is just strictly inferior

humble btw

[radiant frigate]

i feel like the XIIIg is godawful on elites

[strong gulch]

Actual footage. Did the new map that is all shooters with EE columnus and I was like, "Clearly I'm invincible."

[radiant frigate]

EE is such a weird talent

either you have full uptime and say "i can only be hurt in melee" or you don't and it has zero impact

[strong gulch]

Run our of bullets or peril and you die.

[radiant frigate]

and if i am going into melee myself suddenly EE makes so much less sense

i guess it protects against other ranged goobers trying to ruin your day

and it would be funny vs reapers

that gun can't hurt me because i am sending those bullets straight back to hell

[jovial juniper]

Most of the anti elite comes from revved heavies to the head, which is kinda unsafe because shredding

[fast frost]

Anyone got any melee builds? Wanting to finally give a proper melee build a go for psyk

[radiant frigate]

so XIIIg gets completely mogged by illisi

force sword W

[radiant frigate]

i've been playing some weird scrier's setups and i do not know how to feel about them

but you can play them very melee heavy

[strong gulch]

Melee builds are basically gunker builds.

DS4, DS2, knife with SG and DD

[fast frost]

Yeah I’ve been having weird games where I’m with 2-3 other psykers and decide I’ll be the one grabbing attention of stuff because I’ve played a lot of zealot so I’m quite good at dancing around stuff without being hit

[jovial juniper]

I mean, my Illisi isn't 2 shotting crushers
Crushers are a really bad comparison when I can just special heavy with an Illisi and damage more elites than killing 1 by 1 huh

[radiant frigate]

this is battlemage erasure and i wil not stand for it

[fast frost]

Just thought I’d maybe mix it up

[radiant frigate]

revved XIIIg heavies do?

[jovial juniper]

I think you need carapace perk and some extra bonus damage

[strong gulch]

Illisi at least can handle crushers, but DS4 does it better.

[radiant frigate]

with ds4 i felt like i am AFK until we run into a crusher pack

then i press f and click their heads for a bit

and then i am back to being AFK

[radiant frigate]

triple psyker games are cursed to fail from the start

4 psykers is good

but 3 is very very bad

[jovial juniper]

Hmm I guess you'd pick sg chainsword if your ranged or blitz can't deal with hordes

Which doesn't seem like it's possible lmao

[radiant frigate]

headsplosion SG time

hell yeah

[jovial juniper]

When you need the extra 10% damage for the BB

💀

[radiant frigate]

headsplosion EP scrier

so you can have the most juiciest of headsplosions

[upper sun]

dogs dont die from an unupgraded BB at minimum peril

unironically buff BB infested damage by 17

[strong gulch]

Similar to unupgraded BB on bulwarks. SO close to 2 shot.

[upper sun]

at least the bulwark is a big slow target unlike the dog which WILL mess you up

[radiant frigate]

imagine if we had force greatsword

[upper sun]

imagine if we had a force blade

[strong gulch]

1 dog pounces on you after pausing in the air and obviously took damage from you what hit it with and knocked all of your teammates off the bridge in the process.

[radiant frigate]

like a weapon that doesn't have a physical blade, or like a force knife

we talking lightsaber or sienna dagger

[upper sun]

force blaze combat knife pls

sienna has daggers?

[radiant frigate]

i'm on board with both

sienna has a dagger

[upper sun]

what level do we have to be to get one?

[vestal fulcrum]

I

'm fairly sure it had a blade

(the dagger that is)

[radiant frigate]

Yes

i would be open to variations on the large sword of moonlight

in fact i would also appreciate a regular sized sword of moonlight

[upper sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW--6IVjdds

holy shit thats almsot the same animation as the combat blade

[jovial juniper]

Push Attack spam is a move tech with her daggers

[radiant frigate]

true fact

[jovial juniper]

💀

[radiant frigate]

and it is juicy movetech

[strong gulch]

Yip. I liked that weapon and is why I cry for force knife.

[radiant frigate]

my favorite was elf greatsword

[strong gulch]

Unironically sets a lot on fire.

[upper sun]

also why is the combat special faster if you hold block

[radiant frigate]

the punching?

[upper sun]

ye

[radiant frigate]

idk

is it even good for anything

[upper sun]

isnt the combo many people use PA S PA S?

[radiant frigate]

idk i am not many people

just one person

[upper sun]

@mossy oyster https://files.catbox.moe/ji5g36.mp4 catbox was faster

[strong gulch]

For psyker, it's mostly PA because of the stam regen.

[radiant frigate]

ok honest question why is it shield and maul

at this rate just throw the maul

2h shield

[upper sun]

ikr

give me dual shields

[radiant frigate]

orma and reeve flashback

[iron elbow]

anyone wanna powerlevel me a bit and teach me some psyker shit?

[upper sun]

any malice maelstroms up?

[iron elbow]

theres some heresy maelstroms

[upper sun]

ooor do you have the mission select mod

[echo turtle]

I've been away from DT for a while

For a scriers gun build, are people liking DD now ?

[upper sun]

stacks fade one by one now

[echo turtle]

I played since that update, I was enjoying DD

Kind of a right side build, crits assail scriers dd

[upper sun]

theres a hunting grounds maelstrom up

anyone wanna join so i dont get yelled at for bringing the sub 30 guy?

[echo turtle]

Is assail still solid?

[upper sun]

ye itss good

switching for uncanny doesnt work now tho

[echo turtle]

Oh the rending on uncanny?

[upper sun]

yeah

[echo turtle]

Kk, good to know

Columbo still the end all be all for gunkers ?

[upper sun]

pretty much

[echo turtle]

Kk, no point in trying the bolt pistol or getting a decent vraksmk5 then eh

[upper sun]

bolt pistol is kinda not great on psyker

i never tried headhunters much so i cant really comment

[radiant frigate]

headhunters kinda suffer in the current environment

like infantry las they fill a niche that is not really sought after

[hasty jungle]

Recon Lasgun go brrrrrrrrrrrrrt

[plucky flax]

Go solo auric maelstrom.

@lethal lagoon like this guy did.

Ez power level.

[radiant sleet]

I still run assail emp psi voidstrike or variations of this build and yeah assail is still great.

[echo turtle]

Thanks, I was just trying EP assail in the grinder and it felt good

I'm rusty and learning to play with kb/m after using controller the whole time, so the peril mitigation felt good there too

[radiant frigate]

assail is good

EP assail is good

DD assail is good

[radiant sleet]

If you have mouse buttons I highly recommend quell on mouse button so you can assail animation cancel easier. I also do slide on mouse button, dodge on space bar and jump on middle mouse. Helps alot not accidentally jumping during dodge slides

[broken carbon]

u can animation cancel assail?

[echo turtle]

I set reload/quel and slide to the mouse pretty fast after trying a match

Jump on middle mouse is a good suggestion I hadn't thought of

[strong gulch]

yes

[broken carbon]

never knew that

neat

is it like staff m1 quell cancelling

[strong gulch]

Easier than staff primary cancel.

[torpid yew]

what do you guys use assail for mainly cause I just can't figure it out

Like is it good for killing specials?

[mental rock]

anything human sized that doesnt have armor assail kills

[strong gulch]

The primary / LMB assail can interrupt most things. So you can toss out 2 -3 LMB shards then a charged one to kill gunners, trappers, etc.

It even stuns ragers.

[brazen rampart]

I put my jump on left alt.

Still in range of my thumb, but it doesn't make issues with dodging.

[strong gulch]

Assail releases quickly. So you can melee a horde and quickly switch and toss shards then melee more. Makes you tankier in hordes if you have soulstealer.

[iron elbow]

anyone wanna help me on some Damnations

[brazen rampart]

Better to say "anything that isn't an ogryn, mauler, or monstrosity, assail kills."

It might take an extra dart, but assail deals with flak ragers, shotgunners, and gunners decently well.

[brazen rampart]

You'd be better off asking in one of the lfg channels for that.

[iron elbow]

yeah im doing that as well. Just seems everyone plays auric