psyker-class

[brazen rampart]

Also, change the fucking angle on the deimos h1.

Make it straight down, please.

Bothers the hell out of me that it isn't.

[fresh reef]

How good is surge staff for the purposes of M1 spam?

[mental grail]

what... you don't like an extremely oblique 70° angle

no shot

[brazen rampart]

It makes fighting bulwarks a pain in my ass because I don't have the space to set up an h2.

[mental grail]

okay, why do that though

[broken carbon]

why would u have to set it up?

[brazen rampart]

Making it straight down would solve so many issues I have with that sword.

[broken carbon]

light attack into heavy after they attack

will stagger them

[mental grail]

^

or

[brazen rampart]

Because I'm fighting other things than just a bulwark.

[fresh reef]

I like throwing blue tennis balls at heretics

[mental grail]

Y'know just dodge

[brazen rampart]

Maybe I hit a mauler with my h2 first?

[jovial juniper]

Probably for critical bonus purpose

[brazen rampart]

It's just where I'm at in my chain.

[broken carbon]

idk what to tell u

just aim better i guess

[brazen rampart]

I'm just saying it would be a qol increase to make it straight down.

[mental grail]

real

[broken carbon]

it’s a thrust attack, the easiest attack to aim

[broken carbon]

i like it being diagonal, it’s good for a bit of horde clear

[mental grail]

it's serviceable

[brazen rampart]

?

[fresh reef]

I love thrusting into heretics

[brazen rampart]

I'm talking about the weirdly angled h1.

I am fully aware of how good the h2 is.

[broken carbon]

.

[mental grail]

relatable

I like thrusting

[brazen rampart]

Yeah I know, h2 goes back to h1, and h1 is angled like 70 degrees off to the left.

It would be nice is the h1 was straight down.

[viscid matrix]

Is it me or is the new itemisation coming next month taking inspiration from the SM2 itemisation?

Will we be able to upgrade any weapon to max?

[brazen rampart]

Hopefully!

I pray for some way of having perfected items.

[broken carbon]

honestly i just don’t agree

[brazen rampart]

And thats fine! We can disagree and still be happy.

[restive ice]

no

fight to the death

[brazen rampart]

Absolutely not.

[broken carbon]

i’d win anyway

[brazen rampart]

Learning to agree to disagree has helped my life so much it isn't even funny.

[broken carbon]

u were typing

deleted it

and settled for a cap reaction

lmfao

[brazen rampart]

Shhhhh

[broken carbon]

it’s true though i’d win

[hexed geyser]

Give me a real ds4 and i'd win

[broken carbon]

i did karate

[brazen rampart]

Nah, my body is too messed up to get in a serious physical confrontation with anybody.

[broken carbon]

lmfao

me personally

[brazen rampart]

To put it plainly, I'd rather just shoot you and be done with it.

[broken carbon]

okay but like

i have guns too

goober

[brazen rampart]

But again, I'd rather not.

[broken carbon]

i’d win

[fresh reef]

I'm gonna explode both of you with my mind

[brazen rampart]

No reason to spill blood over a fucking internet argument.

[broken carbon]

okay but like

i’d win

[broken carbon]

🧿🧿

[fresh reef]

explode

[broken carbon]

:3

i just be having a good time

yk

[brazen rampart]

Real shit, though, I'm not even 21 and I have major knee issues in both knees.

I aint fighting anybody if I can help it.

[jovial juniper]

Only 24? Must be a bad one smh

[broken carbon]

me personally i wouldn’t get knee issues

[strong gulch]

It's surprisingly decent. I've done funny LMB only runs and gotten highest damage multiple times. That doesn't mean it's great or a replacement for the rest of our kit tho.

[brazen rampart]

Me, personally, I wish that was an option.

Unfortunately my parents both have a long line of degenerative joint diseases and they just so happened to get married and have me.

[strong gulch]

Surge staff has crit bonus while void and trauma get access to surge blessings.

[fresh reef]

I was thinking of slotting it in an EP/BB/Wall build

[brazen rampart]

I got a double dose of that sweet, cruel arthritis!

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah, staff has insane suppression

[fresh reef]

Void would probably be better though

[broken carbon]

have u tried taking collagen

[broken carbon]

trust me i clearly know better than u do

(this is sarcasm)

[restive ice]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-off-mngani-spartan-gif-23659873

[strong gulch]

LMB spam can significantly thin a horde running up on you and suppress shooters. That suppression isn't always nice; BUT it's really funny to just LMB spam a reaper. It's like "staaaAAAUUUUP" with an arm covering it's face.

[restive ice]

the reaper dab

[strong gulch]

Hp slowly going down. Just tickles.

[late sapphire]

i always use the lmb to finish off low health enemies and so on, i'm pretty sure it can match rmb dps if you hit all heads

Even works against crushers if you hit the head, for a whole 50 or so damage

[strong gulch]

I've done funny LMB only runs and gotten top damage. It's silly; especially if you yell "LIGHTNING BOLT" in your best nerd voice the whole time.

LMB mains

[magic ledge]

sortaaa sorta my brain is too small, getting one crit every 5 isnt alot of damage and i cant reliably left click to build up the crit meter

5 light attacks for one guaranteed crit charged attack on the voidstrike gets out dps by like any gun

or yea you can still only charge attack but still not consistent with dd

it still feels like you only get one crit every 5 no matter how you increase the crit chance on the voidstrike

i was thinking of running warp nexus but i rlly like the soulblaze and surge combo

[lone wing]

ptsd

[upper galleon]

You jhsut do charge attacks

and if you don't have nexus it's your only way of getting crit chance

[jovial juniper]

You run blazing on a voidstrike

[upper galleon]

yea cause blazing sucks on void it has a small application area

and it does insanely high damage

it's literally like 20% effective crit chance and idk what you mean not consistent with DD

when DD is void's best keystone anyways

[magic ledge]

hm i figured the blazing works through with all the cleave

[upper galleon]

in a very narrow ball

that does high damage and can one shot crushers with surge

[magic ledge]

jokes on you

my balls are big

[upper galleon]

relative to trauma?

no they ain't

that's some big balls

[ornate hamlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1091860292910186601/1267188934396350565/attachment.gif

smithe

[strong gulch]

It's narrow with limited cleave. Trauma has unlimited cleave where it hits and 80 blast radius trauma is pretty wide.

[halcyon gust]

Wasn't there a screenshot recently showing a low roll blast range Trauma versus 80% blast range

The difference was night and day between the 2

[strong gulch]

Also void with true aim can hit all stacks needed for the guaranteed crit quickly. Void doesn't have unlimited cleave, but it's enough to get the stacks in a single charged ball if the enemy is high enough.

[late sapphire]

Trying out deimos now

This thing fucks i think

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

[halcyon gust]

I'm still amazed just how much god damn range that is

[split lance]

abois

my bad

BOIS (gender neautral term)

DO I GAMBLE

[strong gulch]

Because quell speed is dumped, be sure to grab solidity from the talent tree. That way you can be agro af.

[split lance]

thats why im wondering if i should just roll for a different one

cuz it could better

needa get upgraded nexus on it tho

and idk if blazing spirit haas a lvl 4

[strong gulch]

Use this while you gamble for another trauma. This is the way.

[restive ice]

warp nexus 3 literally unplayable scrap for dockets

[strong gulch]

nope

[split lance]

ive been using it for a really long time now

lmao

[strong gulch]

THIS IS THE WAY

[split lance]

its been uhhh

motnhs

gonna roll for better and try to get nexus 4

[strong gulch]

yip

[split lance]

nvm i aint gettin shit

above 322

15 not a single is over 322

[split lance]

ye i got it, using siphon for more shriek

im also still tryna figure out how to get better witht the smite buil;d

[magic ledge]

i love low warp resist...

fun ult spam

[late sapphire]

Right so

the deimos l1 is as powerful as the h1?

Is there ever any reason to h1?

[restive ice]

to fuck you up when you misinput

[magic ledge]

h1 combo into some flurry light combo

[late sapphire]

which skips l1 which is the best l

[magic ledge]

for single target damage i think

although if you do a charged h1 attack you can dodge and one shot a mutant

only time i use the charged attack idk if thats bad

the real question is there any point in using the charged attack on the illisi

[split lance]

brothers

[late sapphire]

during runup you can slide n charge

gives you full stacks slaughterer uncanny on 1 blow

[magic ledge]

oh dope

[late sapphire]

well, if you kill 5 & hit 5 weakspots at least

but that's what i usually use it for

deimos charge atk also kinda sucks ass though

good on opened up bulwarks and muties but outside of that eh

maybe if you run void and dont have boss dmg lel

[jovial juniper]

Ignore cleave stoppers

[hollow pine]

aight if there could be a 4th subclass here what would it be and why?

[late sapphire]

FATSHARK!!! Make it melee psyker & my life is yours!

[atomic swan]

its good when you want a very BEEG burst damage, really good if you can land a charged heavy 2 on Captains head

but i agree, normal deimos heavy 2 does lots of damage already

[hollow current]

melee psyker. same build as gun psyker but you can choose a second melee

[split lance]

what build for psyker

for

wait no

i mean

[late sapphire]

captains same logic as bulwarks yeah true

[split lance]

what are ideal stats for blaze trauma

[late sapphire]

shit monstrosity damage though

might as well just hit another h2 in the same time

[atomic swan]

nah saves time to break the void shield again

[late sapphire]

yah exactly

small window for damage so 1 big blow is good

[fresh reef]

Who up bursting they brain rn?

[late sapphire]

check atheneum

[split lance]

memememememmememememememe

[atomic swan]

for bulwarks i still prefer to blast them with void strike
since fatshark added the wall of bulwarks

[broken carbon]

blast radius you want as high as possible, charge rate too

damage as well

quell speed and warp resistance are less important

[split lance]

this is what im rocking rn

but ik it can be better

[broken carbon]

yeah that’s almost perfect

[split lance]

especially nexus

[broken carbon]

i’d say swap ranged crit tbh

[fresh reef]

Woe, eight bulwarks that keep overlapping with each other be upon ye

[broken carbon]

you’re only losing 2% crit chance max

it’s not that big of a deal

[broken carbon]

to either maniac or carapace

idk

[split lance]

oh really?

[late sapphire]

if your melee is good you can keep crit

[restive ice]

i’d keep crit chance

[split lance]

i mean i can try it out in a game

[late sapphire]

if you struggle with ragers or crushers though you can swap

[split lance]

its alright

[broken carbon]

yeah, but honestly it’s kinda up to you

[split lance]

ill try it why not

[broken carbon]

kk

[late sapphire]

illsi kinda sucks vs carapace

[split lance]

i hate the other ones

[late sapphire]

ds4...

[split lance]

i hate it

[late sapphire]

you should try sg dd melee psyker in melee only mael

[split lance]

i have these 2 tho

[split lance]

sg dd?

[late sapphire]

rampage sucks huge ass with ds4

scriers gaze disrupt destiny

[restive ice]

sugg my ddick
(scrier's gaze, disrupt destiny)

[hollow current]

change shred to ucanny 4 or 3 if you don't have 4

[split lance]

only if its not bigger than mine

bc if it is ill cry

[hollow current]

oh wait

I thought rampage was riposte

[late sapphire]

shred is way better than rampage on ds4

take 1st go shred uncanny keep perks

ds4 pairs well with trauma because its main weakness is hordes and trauma has huge aoe capabilities

plus you can trauma blast, knock down a bunch of crushers then whip out the dingalang and poke em dead

[split lance]

i dont even use melee when im using trauma

[late sapphire]

I feel all of the weps are enjoyable if you learn to use and appreciate them

Not obscurus though

Fuck that shit

[hollow pine]

healing psyker?

[split lance]

this coulda been so good

wait

it could work for rending couldnt it

[jovial juniper]

The DoTs from soulblaze

[split lance]

wut

[jovial juniper]

They work with the rending granted by uncanny

[split lance]

im sorry

im stupid

idk what you mean

[strong gulch]

DOTs take on damage buffs dynamically.

So like tick damage from soulblaze. Say you apply souldblaze stacks to an enemy with purg. If you switch to a melee with uncanny and build uncanny stacks, the soulblaze tick damage will be affected by uncanny stacks.

[potent echo]

1. Burn crushers, bad blaze damage because carapace

2. Take out uncanny sword, poke crusher heads, get 5 uncanny stacks

3. Blaze damage on EVERY crusher skyrockets because of 100% rending

4. Profit

[ionic sorrel]

Guess I know what I am running tonight, thanks @potent echo

[magic ledge]

is punishing salvo good for the lasgun?

im running infernus with it

[strong gulch]

SB stacks fall off one at a time; applying another/ reapplying SB pauses the decay. So switch back to SB weapon every so often.

[upper galleon]

no

you want infernus and dum dum as blessings, headhunter also being okayish even with true aim

[strong gulch]

Headhunter is nearly like not having a blessing with true aim.

[potent echo]

SB lasts the longest out of all debuffs

Numbers on pygex's Atheneum guide

[ionic sorrel]

nm, got my socks rocked

[upper galleon]

how do they interact, i imagine headhunter would still be > punishing salvo

even on psyker

[strong gulch]

True aim guarantees a crit after 5 weak spot hits. Headhunter stacks reset on crit.

[mossy oyster]

rather have the one where its uh

increased critical weakspot dmg

forgot the name

this

[upper galleon]

recons don't get deadly accurate

sorry

edited

they have punishing salvo but it's bad because it's only shots 2->4 45% weakspot damage, which with recon's low finesse it's not worth

deathspitter would be better than punishing salvo

[strong gulch]

Oh lol. This is psyker chat. So when lasgun is mentioned, I assumed recon 6d.

[upper galleon]

yes

we are talking about recons

i believe

does inflas have punishing salvo?

[potent echo]

I want to say yes but Im not sure

[mossy oyster]

recons if they got deadly accurate

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-cope-warhammer-meme-shut-up-gif-24598622

[upper galleon]

i don't think it would even be that good

[mossy oyster]

disagree

[upper galleon]

dum dum IS really good and recons have poor finesse

[mossy oyster]

with recon gunkers

[upper galleon]

oh true

dum dum +deadly accurate

[mossy oyster]

imagine

the laser light show

would be insane

[upper galleon]

imagine lacerate on recon

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-back-dog-golden-retriever-back-golden-retriever-scared-golden-retriever-disgusted-gif-26048691

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-dance-gif-20625579

[strong gulch]

I haven't seen this gif in so long. 🥺

[hollow current]

really need this on laspistol 😫

[ornate hamlet]

no you're not

[split lance]

im trying it out

idk if its better or not tbh

i feel like i see a lot less fire

[broken carbon]

fair

[ashen schooner]

joined a mission, in a room 100% covered with bomber fire, last other person leaves

not that team's best day

[near wyvern]

I wouldn't say so, they don't have that high crit weak spot multiplier to begin with. The base is +75% while CIAG has +200%, laspistol has +176% or +207% depending on mark and zarona revolver has +225%.

[ashen schooner]

next game has a bot in the ready screen?

[near wyvern]

At least the bots don't play solo heroes

[upper galleon]

It’s a bug

[restive ice]

the first time that happened to me my game crashed after 5 seconds

[fresh reef]

https://tenor.com/view/very-beautiful-very-powerful-fish-killer-fish-san-diego-gif-22917381

[rich jolt]

More plasteel than diamtene

Fake

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-dog-gif-27543784

[fresh reef]

precarious situation

[mossy oyster]

erm excuse me fellas

[fresh reef]

the one on the left be looking like

[mossy oyster]

LOL

that vid/gif is so goated

https://tenor.com/view/black-man-jail-gif-23258686

[rich jolt]

You better hang up that vox channel

[fresh reef]

I'm feelin' heretical~

[unreal wasp]

Swapped from bolb pistol to double barrel, a bit less efficient but more fun

As you can see I have a grudge against Disablers

[fresh reef]

I FUCKING HATE NETTERS GRAHHH

[unreal wasp]

Basically

And every time I saw a dog run by I'd instantly lock onto it with Brain Burst

Horde on me? Fuck it, I can press spacebar until that dog is dead

[fresh reef]

I don't know what it is, but EP/BB/Shriek/Surge just feels so right to use

[unreal wasp]

Fire shriek is currently my favorite thing about Psyker

Press F, do big fucking damage just because there's a lot of enemies

Run at said large number of enemies with Illisi to keep spreading the stacks instead of actually letting the enemies die to soulblaze

[viscid matrix]

It does more if you stack up uncanny on your melee weapon first

It gives the flames Rend, so it goes thru armour better

[unreal wasp]

Will probably try that when Itemization update gets pushed, just running Slaughterer and the guaranteed crit blessing right now

Unrelated but just thinking about Force Sword blessings

I like the idea of Deflector but then I just normally side-dodge towards the shooters

[potent echo]

Deflector used to be really good

It could block bullets while reviving teammates

[atomic swan]

If you position yourself right
and yes Deflector is kinda just existing.
Still nice to have one when got pinned down

[near wyvern]

That was busted af though

Deflector is good for newer players who can't move tech bullets yet

[potent echo]

Alot of early guides saying deflector good was during that era

Nowadays it's 🤷‍♂️

I just personally don't use it because I don't want to get used to it

[swift grail]

/drool 🤤

[loud garnet]

[swift grail]

Voidstrike > Gunpsyker
Change my mind
https://youtu.be/wPpVrutrmyI

[upper sun]

gunker hurts my fingers less

also you dont seem to be using assail that much

[swift grail]

valid point 😂
however, blasting 20 elites to oblivion within a few seconds with Voidstrike yields way more Dopamine!

[upper sun]

also id skip quickshards

i watched a fair bit of the video you never run out of shards

[swift grail]

will play around it a bit based on your feedback ❤️

[upper sun]

i used the exact same build for void tbh

[rotund fable]

My voidstrike talent tree looks like this... I either go bowling or I die.
Admittedly, probably not a well optimized build, but I find it fun, and i've had a decent amount of success.

[tired estuary]

with void you don't really even need blitzes

[upper sun]

ye that too

you can do anything with void

[rotund fable]

The reason i run brain-burst on my void for the occasional and funny kinetic flayer proc

[tired estuary]

I'm sorry to hear that

or happy for you ig

[swift grail]

i like using blitzes to remember i'm not a Veteran

[rotund fable]

It's saved my sorry but at least 3 times when I was not able to fully charge a headshot against a conga line of crushers that came around a corner

[tired estuary]

cool

[upper sun]

imagine pressing extra buttons when you can nuke the same hallway for 35 minutes

[rotund fable]

I rarely use the blitz as void, except for rare scenarios where it's faster to swap to brain-burst to pop the heads of guys who are way over there and hiding behind cover.

it's rare, but it's happened more than twice

Friend of mine is trying to convice me to run transfer peril over warp nexus... and, like... i can kinda get what he means... but i like being able to maximise the number of surge procs i can get

[upper sun]

respond with nuh uhh

always critmaxx

[rotund fable]

My response was that i sent 6 fully charged crit blasts down a hallway in a row compared to his 4.

[upper sun]

if u critmaxx u can make it 8

[potent echo]

transfer peril

[rigid sky]

Idk why you would take EP if you barely touch your blitz

Especially since Voidstrike and Disrupt Destiny go together so well

If you're worried about Crushers, a DD voidstrike build literally oneshots them

[quartz barn]

tell your friend to edge more

[rigid sky]

Mfers be allergic to their R buttons

[strong thicket]

Does surge have any place on trauma? Or is it either rending shockwave spam or blazing memes

[lyric burrow]

Surge doesnt work on trauma other than the LMB

So youd want blazing trauma

[strong thicket]

Well damn

Wasn't this an issue since launch or something?

Is it deliberate?

[latent mauve]

It is intentional

[lyric burrow]

Its intentional they just don't have that many blessings

Cause surge on trauma RMB would be kinda absurd

[latent mauve]

Surge is absurd anyway

Incredibly broken blessing

[strong thicket]

Like on void lol

[lyric burrow]

I do hate it on void but uh

Thats partially a void issue

Cause void one shots everything without it

Other than crushers

[strong thicket]

You know what, i'm gonna make an lmb infinite ammo gun out of this trauma

[lyric burrow]

So surge just clears the room

[jovial juniper]

The forbidden LMB trauma build

[spice veldt]

mankar would be proud

[lyric burrow]

Did mankar do this

Mankar never plays trauma

[chrome sphinx]

if youre not using much blitzes then why ep?

wouldnt it be better to run it with dd or ws

[mental grail]

loss

[rotund fable]

For my playstyle, EP is a bit better than DD because, when I DO whip out the brain-burst, I like being able to fire it off faster and not having the peril build up as a charge it (and It seems to increase the damage of the occasional flayer procs without consuming a charge), and I don't run warp charges because I don't have the points.

[chrome sphinx]

have you considered venting shriek

[late sapphire]

ngl i always hate the 'x damage !!!!' stuff

[rotund fable]

I have... but 80% of my games involve randoms who cant prioritize worth a dam, so it's either "Run bubble shield and have higher odds of winning" or "Run shriek and hope to the god emperor that my teamates know how to deal with gunners"

[late sapphire]

had a mael once that lasted an hour+ everyone did 1mil+ damage

does this mean our builds were all peak? absolutely not lol because if they were we wouldn't have needed an hour

[chrome sphinx]

your randoms stay in shields?

damn where can I get some

[late sapphire]

question, siblings

do auric maels inherently have more enemies?

or are a diff 5 normal mael and a diff 5 auric mael equivalent

[rotund fable]

Technically no, but more technically yes.

They have the same Number of enemies per wave event, but the time between waves is shorter, and wave event timer doesn't go on cooldown... ever.

[spice veldt]

i think he runs a surge/nexus trauma for his lmb build but i could be misremembering

[lyric burrow]

That sounds too deranged for mankar

Although mankar does have 4500 builds

[slim hazel]

Ngl I've been wanting to make a Psyker but I heard they're really frail and I suck with frail classes. Then again apparently some of the abilities make that obsolete cause they either have insane pushback or stun.

[late sapphire]

Psykers are really frail if we get cornered but the toughness regen is there

[lone ravine]

Toughness regen for basically doing any peril related thing:

[signal sluice]

Or crit related

[halcyon gust]

Talk about luck

[cunning bone]

Cracked

[zinc phoenix]

you throw it on them with the toughness regen thing and it keeps them from dying

basically a heal

[upper sun]

@lethal lagoon Question

How does the every Tier of one Blessing gets calculated into the ““head start in Mastery””? Do players get more points in Mastery from one single blessing if they have unlocked all Tiers of that blessing or does only the highest Tier count?"

Answer

All tiers are taken into consideration for the specific weapon family. With higher tiers being more important in the calculation. To reach max Mastery, you will only need 70-80% of all the blessings available.

GET REKT

[lethal lagoon]

Quick, get the list of all the things fatshark lied/were wrong about before

[upper sun]

copemaxxing ^

[lethal lagoon]

I won't surrender.

I am immortal and eternal.

[upper sun]

damn... thats crazy

what was the original bet now?

[lethal lagoon]

#psyker-class message

[upper sun]

new shotgun

[lethal lagoon]

It's not over till the fat shark sings.

[upper sun]

cope all u want

you can do it whenever u want

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not coping, I'm making a judgement based on past knowledge.

Well no, I can't.

Part of the bet was leveling the weaon

[upper sun]

🤔 ye

[lethal lagoon]

I'll let at least get it to 10 or something

Depending on where I start

NO WAIT

YOU WILL GET WHAT I CHOOSE TO AT LEAST 10 YOU BASTARD

[upper sun]

u proposed the bet

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, I'm fine losing, I just geniunely don't believe what fatshark said.

I have no idea what the mastery levels will be honestly

But once the patch is out, you can tell me what level having all blesisngs get's to

And I'll accept my(your) fate.

[upper sun]

" It will depend on how you are building your new Mastery track. In the worst-case scenario, playing 1 or 2 games would be necessary to have it all. We saw that having T1/T2 blessings were less common for those at max level. It would feel too punishing if we put too much weight on asking players to have these lower tiers in order to reach max Mastery. Therefore, we will be weighing T4 blessings in such a way that you won’t encounter that grind."

T4s weighed higher

[zinc phoenix]

locks removed on weapons and curios makes this patch a 10/10

[upper sun]

ohhhhh yess thats the stuff

[upper sun]

"1.8k hours played at time of review
You may now play their game"

[zinc phoenix]

they would have to seriously screw up in some totally unexpected way to make this a bad update because everything they wrote so far seems positive

[zinc phoenix]

i mean i havent played in many months because im tired of gear grind

[upper sun]

im talkin about myself

[zinc phoenix]

ah ok

i just hated that weapon lock bs

made making fun gear so annoying

[upper sun]

TL;DR: Weapons a player no longer wants can be sacrificed to get a headstart.

ayoooooo

so i can sack weapons AND play to gain levels

[zinc phoenix]

like who does it hurt if i want to convert my force sword into a maxed out blocking sword for the memes

[upper sun]

me

[zinc phoenix]

now fatshark gets that so all is well

[upper sun]

it hurts me

[zinc phoenix]

good

[upper sun]

my blocking sword will no longer be unique

[zinc phoenix]

i have one too, just annoying that its such a pain setting it all up

and then there's playing vet and wanting to mess with various weapons and needing to spend a gorillion dollars to get the fifteen marks of lasgun

so tedious

[upper sun]

"Also, we have mentioned above the ability to sacrifice unwanted weapons in order to increase Mastery XP at a player’s discretion." i shouldnt have cleaned my inventory so well 😭

[upper sun]

i skipped most of this by simply playing only 2 weapons on vet and ogryn

[zinc phoenix]

selling shit got too tedious so i stopped LOL

[upper sun]

i'm ocd about most games i play i set out an entire session for inventory/living arrgement clean up/companion gear etc

[restive ice]

i set up that session then forget what i'm doing after the first sale and queue for a match

[upper sun]

real

[lyric burrow]

I usually sell emp gifts right after

Although im at 25 mil dockets rn so not getting anything now

[upper sun]

noooo its a gift from the emperor himself

what do you mean you dont want a 10% damage ds4?

[lyric burrow]

So true

[fresh reef]

Kinda new to psyker. Is my build OK?

[worn heron]

Lmfao

What a throwback

[lyric burrow]

Man

[fresh reef]

Is it even possible to recreate the "classic" talents?

Without them overlapping I mean

[lyric burrow]

I think it might be

[halcyon gust]

The good old days

[kindred kite]

Is now empowered smite not killing anyone a thing? Or should I add something more (surge staff?) to get it to kill elites in time even on malice?

[fossil snow]

what would you say are psykers best durability talents?

[upper sun]

one with the warp

toughness on warp kill and toughness on quell

[upper galleon]

1-1-1-1-1-1 zealot build flashbacks

[upper galleon]

Use venting soulblaze

Also malice smite is going to suck

There is no density in malice

[dawn nacelle]

Soulstealer + Quitude + Warp Expenditure + Battle Meditation + One With the Warp

[upper galleon]

Hell even in normal damn smite can suck depending on how the enemies are coming

[fossil snow]

god

[fossil snow]

mobile quell brainburst

I miss you so much

[dawn nacelle]

anyone knows if the unlock Fat Shark wants to implement will also affect curios?

[young summit]

I think Strawhat said curios aren't part of this since they have other plans for them.

Based on the reddit post a couple hours ago.

[dawn nacelle]

I see thanks

[fresh reef]

They will be unlocked though, which is nice

[young summit]

3 chosen perks is really good

[fresh reef]

I've got three 17% toughness curios that are all bricked in some way

+15% Grimoire resist

[mental grail]

Grim resist is...

just nut up and absorb the corruption

keep microdosing chaos

it'll pay off

eventually

[strong gulch]

Like @upper galleon said. EP smite scales with enemy density. Whether you're killing one rager or 20, the time to kill them is nearly the same.

You need creeping flames plus a stack of EP, that gets you to hit rager break points on damnation. You also need PC (perilous combustion; also scales with enemy density).

Get to 85% or higher default ui peril with EP smite then shriek to apply SB (soulblaze) and extend the cast.

[hollow current]

or just get a zealot with that one talent that makes it a non issue. grim resist and corruption resist should be the same curio roll if it wants to even try to be useful

[mental grail]

when I initially found out it's not I basically just ignored it from then on

what a useless curio roll

when I found out it wasn't paired I relegated it to f tier

[upper galleon]

Corruption resist does work on grims so yea

Grim resist is pointless but the pinned psyker guide puts grim resist in b tier and general corruption in f tier

[fossil snow]

we lost the guide naming contest to the ogryn

[mental grail]

I'd rather have damage, heath, gunner/spec/elite resist

[fossil snow]

sprint efficiency 15%

[mental grail]

the guide oofed

[fossil snow]

never goes wrong

[mental grail]

Just name the psyker section the Psychanium or some shit

Scholastia Psykana

Astra Telepathica

[upper galleon]

Yea

[mental grail]

Something nerdy

[upper galleon]

Toughness

[mental grail]

Toughness regen is S tier

[upper galleon]

Toughness regen nah

C tier

[fossil snow]

the Grimoire Psycana

[upper galleon]

Psyker has too many toughness regen options

Why spec for coherency regen when you get a ton from talents

[fossil snow]

one with the warp turned out to be what I needed

[mental grail]

I throw both on, I have poor netcode

no way am I leaving it to chance

[upper galleon]

Only right side ogryns go toughness regen curios if they greed and don’t get the heavy attack toughness ones

[fossil snow]

i was mixing scires sword psyker with wildfire spreading and disrupt destiny

[hollow current]

I do 3 sniper res, 2 mutant res, 2 gunner res and 2 sprint eff. 1 stamina + 2 hp curios.

[fossil snow]

one with the warp was that extra kick I needed

[mental grail]

Bro you are wild

[fossil snow]

toss out some fire and then kill everything blue until the fight stops

on a soulblaze/ shred force sword you can keep empathic evasion up for like

ever

[mental grail]

I saw a psyker with 3 wound curios once

[fossil snow]

and constantly add more and more fire stacks into the mix as you swing

[mental grail]

I guess he thought it increased his health

[fossil snow]

once upon a time

the general playerbase did that

for that reason

[hollow current]

peril suicide build

[mental grail]

[fossil snow]

listen man

I spent like a week trying to come up with 101 peril suipsyker

give psyker a talent to generate med syringes like bardin and his grenades in vt2

make that fucker scale in size and intensity with like

how high over 100 your last spell would have spiked you

take unfortunate for some

it would be like unchained sienna but psyker and way funnier

LET THE OGRYN PUNT ME DURING THE WIND UP

[dawn nacelle]

why is it so damn difficult to find people at the Mourningstar who would help me to get the Malleus Monstrum penance -.- Feels like shouting into a black hole

[hollow current]

@verbal thistle this man requests your aid

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/rise-hand-rise-hand-rise-up-cat-me-too-gif-24649542

[dawn nacelle]

Hi Ainz

[verbal thistle]

Looking in the LFG channel is way easier

I go through the LFG channels and help with penances

[dawn nacelle]

ok, first time here so I am a bit lost

[verbal thistle]

All good

[rotund fable]

brunt is selling this funny gun for dirt cheap...

[fossil snow]

I think he's trying to tell you something about your aim

[analog agate]

Happy no additional grinding for me with the update

[upper sun]

fucking hell im missing 1-2 blessings on most weapons

[round coyote]

Yeah on ogryn I’m only missing 9 total and I just like gave up lol

It’ll be enough to have full mastery so

[upper sun]

im missing the most on ogryn

(i only play shield and kickback)

[round coyote]

😔

[upper sun]

name two other ogryn weapons

i bet u cant

[round coyote]

Hug can’t read

So

Fast one

Boom one

Shield and kickback are probably actually my least used weapons

I know kickback is for a fact

[upper sun]

damn... its like you dont enjoy pressing one button all game

[round coyote]

Ur onto something sparky

[latent mauve]

Imagine needing to do that

I press one button and it tells me

🙂

[upper sun]

😠 it sooths my autism ok?!

[zinc sphinx]

shield or basic club for me, the shield is just too slow and cumbersome for my affinity twords melee fighting, then I just never really use the club because I find the other options better for my playstyle

[upper sun]

i like shield because it only has one attack with a massive hitbox

[round coyote]

I usually just use the grenade gauntlet for its versatility and PONCH, and I’ve been using cleaver mk4 a lot.

[true lake]

oh we finally doing the itemization update?

[fervent yoke]

Next month

[true lake]

got to wait for it then

[lone wing]

deimos, obscurus or illisi force sword? been using illisifor a while but idk if it's like, actually useful or if i've been memeing by accident

[upper sun]

blaze for melee is meh

deimos is better for single target illisi is better for clear

[mossy oyster]

ds4 and a knife

[upper sun]

tho ive been doubting the illisi clear

[mossy oyster]

(also a taxe 2)

[upper sun]

heavy 1 light 2 clears fine on deimos

[mossy oyster]

wym bro illisi clear is good just roll slaughterer 4 and bloodthirsty with low warp resistance

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

special and spam H1 all day

[upper sun]

ILLISI NEEDS BUFFS

idc what anyone says

[lone wing]

illisi has high cleave with it's special H1 but other than that it's been failing me as of late

at this point im just trying to find a non duelling sword or knife weapon for my psyker

already have horde clear because of purge staff

fuck it, deimos here i come

[mossy oyster]

taxe 2

is waiting

cause if horde clear is covered with purge

your only option realistically for ST thats not a ds4 is a deimos

lmfao

[rotund fable]

If only i knew how to make a trauma staff build... (this was a mission reward)

[mossy oyster]

deimos is good though

[lone wing]

now comes the question of what to dump. mobility or warp res

[mossy oyster]

on a deimos?

mobi

[lone wing]

yeag

[mossy oyster]

if you're actually gonna use the special to kill people

unless you wanna use it for venting shriek creeping flames spam

then low warp res

[lone wing]

makes sense

blessings? i have zero idea what's good on this lol, never used it

[mental grail]

Deimos for its kino heavy attack

it is for single targets what illisi is for crowds

recommend

[lone wing]

the difference between 63% damage and 80 is...7 points of damage

wtf

[mental grail]

The difference between 0% and 80% on Accatran VIa is maybe 20 points.

welcome to insanity

[lone wing]

i see now why psyker uses damage as her dump stat

[mental grail]

its not a dump stat only because there are worse stats

[viscid apex]

Anyone know what weapons are good to use with Assail and Shield?

[mossy oyster]

my deimos has uncanny slaughterer

and flakiacs iirc

got lucky

[broken carbon]

anything really

[jovial juniper]

At least one of your weapons should have good single target

[viscid apex]

So.. Revolver? Or maybe bolt pistol?

Idk if Bolt pistol can pierce Carapace like the revolver can, but it should be obvious

[broken carbon]

you could run a trauma/void/purg and have a dueling sword or deimos

for single target

[viscid apex]

I see, thanks 👍

[azure bridge]

is this... worth keeping?

[radiant frigate]

but what about the illisi toughness economy

[rotund fable]

Zealot i ran into in my last game: "Psyker, stop stealing my kills!"
His Ogryn friend: "If you want the Psyker to stop stealing your kills, just kill them first."

[upper sun]

not my illisi

(it has 80 warp res)

[radiant frigate]

(even so it can still trigger multiple instances of soulstealer with empowered swings)

honestly that is most of the reason i use illisi

[upper sun]

yes

[rotund fable]

Wait... it does that...?

[radiant frigate]

empowered force sword swings of whatever type are considered warp attacks

so, yes

they also benefit from perfect timing (and i should imagine, malefic momentum?)

[rotund fable]

Huh... I should probably try out Illisi then...

[radiant frigate]

Yes.

if you get a nice juicy sweep you jsut fill up your toughness

uncanny strike and slaughterer will also apply to any of your soulblaze when active

see maulertide -> yell at them -> start clicking their heads in melee -> soulblaze goes crazy -> chain reaction

[rotund fable]

I forgot i had this...

[radiant frigate]

(and this is why i never swap off illisi)

unstable power is good too

recommend maniac instead of carapace though

either way very juicy illisi

[rotund fable]

I don't even remember why i have that sword or why i gave it those perks/blessings

[mossy oyster]

perks suck but this is the proper illisi

[radiant frigate]

bloodthirsty

a consideration indeed

[mossy oyster]

spam special

kill everything with crit

get to 99 warp

max creeping flames vent

repeat

[radiant frigate]

if you special kill something and then special again you get a crit special

[mossy oyster]

yes

[radiant frigate]

is that right

[mossy oyster]

and it works in conjunction with mettle

and the other crit talent

[radiant frigate]

tempting

[mossy oyster]

why do you think I advertise and run it

lmfao

its pretty good

[radiant frigate]

it sounds like it

[mossy oyster]

perfect timing / mettle are extremely good on it

[radiant frigate]

only mildly concerned about anti armor performance

but i suppose there are other tools for that

[mossy oyster]

im running it on a EP BB / Trauma Blaze build

so i dont worry too much about armor

[primal radish]

is collateral a dump stat on the 6d lasgun?

[radiant frigate]

perhaps i should try that

been a while since i played EP headsplosion

i have been aboard the DD train for a long time

[upper sun]

carapace

[mossy oyster]

(ignore the fact I got a rare 80 blast radius trauma and actually good follow up stats)

[upper sun]

i havent tried lasguns but collateral is a dump on most weapons

[mossy oyster]

thats just the way the dice rolls

[upper sun]

ive use dthe same weapons with 60 and 80 collateral and i couldnt notice the difference

[rotund fable]

I repeat: I dont know why i gave it that perk... I don't even rememer obtaining/making that sword

[upper sun]

ur alright but on thin ice

[mossy oyster]

dont listen to clad hes noob

[upper sun]

i am ||okay||

[mossy oyster]

he doesnt run bloodthirsty illisi

[upper sun]

bloodthirsty is mid MID

[mossy oyster]

nah not with my setup

[rotund fable]

Since why did I have this?!?

[mossy oyster]

thats pretty good

no 80 crit bonus bricked

[rotund fable]

Currently just going through my inventory and seeing stuff i dont even remember making/getting

[rotund fable]

Counter point: Quell speed 69%

[mossy oyster]

oof

itemization cant hurry up

[upper sun]

DEBATE ME

[upper sun]

bad charge rate claim barrage off it

[brazen rampart]

No.

[upper sun]

ask agent

[mossy oyster]

i heard executor has the shred problem

you miss and it drops

[upper sun]

any surge below 70 charge is mid

[upper sun]

just dont miss

[mossy oyster]

also why deflector when I can just dodge

or if you bloodthirsty illisi you get permanent EE

[brazen rampart]

Because kinetic deflection and deflector allow you to walk menacingly towards gunners and stab them in the face.

[mossy oyster]

they're already stabbed cause im mach 11 from playing scriers with DD and Mettle

[rotund fable]

the 2 strongest voidstrike staves in my inventory.

[mossy oyster]

not bad

however

[lethal lagoon]

Executor isn't viable

[upper sun]

real

[upper sun]

nuh uh

[lethal lagoon]

When are you repeatedly hitting the same weakspot on illy?

[mossy oyster]

ok 9K plasteel time to roll some green knives for precog 4 (and not get it)

[rotund fable]

I got this as a mission reward earlier today...

[upper sun]

when clearing

[lethal lagoon]

You Illy doesn't 1 shot horde?

Maybe because you are using executor

[mossy oyster]

or no slaughterer

[brazen rampart]

With slaughterer it does...

[mossy oyster]

T4 slaught T4 uncanny

sex

but I like T4 slaught and bloodthirsty

might try T4 uncanny bloodthirsty

[upper sun]

it doesnt

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

illisi has awful second/third target damage

[brazen rampart]

Bloodthirsty blazing spirit...

[mossy oyster]

cough thats why bloodthirsty fixes that with constantly critting on a special activated H1

[lethal lagoon]

So.... how exactly are you maintaing 5 stacks of executor then

[upper sun]

im not

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

usually when clearing i have 2-4 thats ok

[lethal lagoon]

[halcyon gust]

I likey

[zinc sphinx]

I use kickback and karsolas

[upper sun]

picks are great

but they require brainpower

not ogryn friendly

[zinc sphinx]

I just heavy swing ,lol

[lean berry]

guys can assail crit?

[upper sun]

oooo yeah

purple shards are crits

[lean berry]

how do i achieve crit chance on assail?

[strong gulch]

true aim

[round coyote]

Karsolas is just repeated heavy. Like shield but slightly more interesting.

I prefer the branx though

[strong gulch]

True aim is a talent node.

[lean berry]

so trying for a assail crit build is not a good thing to try

[strong gulch]

If you wan to be spicy, you can do assail + scrier's gaze.

[mental grail]

Replace headhunter w/ infernus. And stamina with your enemy type of choice.

it will serve well in that configuration

[strong gulch]

A shard can strike multiple enemies and build up true aim stacks quickly. If you use assail and are lvl 30, you should be taking true aim regardless of you trying to go for as much crit chance from the talent tree as possible. There is also the coherency aura that gives crit chance and a 5% crit chance node.

[lean berry]

i was thinking more of a background assail - almighty push ability

i got bored instantly though and left the auric

[queen fog]

if i had my whole thing being magic darts that follow my mouse i'd get bored instantly too

gettin almost the same amount of engagement as a flamethrower build

[mental grail]

idk

I like watching heretics fry

[queen fog]

oh dont get me wrong it looks beautiful

[mental grail]

purge gives me a grim satisfaction

[queen fog]

soulfire across an entire horde?

amazing

its just with all this power it can get a lil boring

[mental grail]

not a true deranged soyker

[broken carbon]

i wish assail lasted longer but with less shards

[mental grail]

for shame

[strong gulch]

Sometimes I don't have that attention span required for guiding the shards. I think that's why I tend to favor surge staff. It's quick zappy zappy. Plus no DD targets. DD + assail can be a bad time for my magpie brain.

[broken carbon]

do people actually guide the shards? i usually just throw them out and just go into melee

[strong gulch]

Yeah

[queen fog]

guidling the shards legit is the only way i be following up in melee

you're probs guiding automatically due to people feelin inclined to LOOK AT THE ENEMIES

when runnin at them

if i dont its legit just a 1 kill wonder

[mental grail]

literally

tag > throw shards > melee

[broken carbon]

tag?

[strong gulch]

ping

[broken carbon]

why

[mental grail]

why do I tag enemies?

[queen fog]

the "what if" situation where it doesnt kill them on the 1st assault

[mental grail]

[broken carbon]

no

why specify tagging someone

instead of just saying throw assail and then melee

[strong gulch]

I do it so I fecking see. Or to ping an enemy than I'm not BBing.

[broken carbon]

fecking

[queen fog]

how else is the team gonna know where a enemy is if they dont share your sightline

[broken carbon]

duh

i know to tag enemies

[mental grail]

that's just my combat loop, it helps w/ situational awareness

[queen fog]

so why question why he tags then

[broken carbon]

i was just making sure there wasn’t some misconception about assail’s tracking

because it was weird to specify tagging an enemy as part of using assail

[queen fog]

its both useful for you and your team

what if the target goes behind some cover?

[broken carbon]

yes i know that

i’m not asking why you tag enemies!!!

[queen fog]

thats why it was in the process then

[broken carbon]

i hope you explode

[queen fog]

overcomplicated thinkin over here

i know we psykers but it dont take that much brainpower lol

[mental grail]

Also assail can be wonky and attack something in the group that isn't my target, which is why I ping them first.

[broken carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-crisp-chip-microwave-cute-gif-4725698502227239613

[strong gulch]

To be fair, you never know if there is some weird interaction or tech in these games.

Seems reasonable that there might be some assail + tagged enemy interaction because fatshark.

[ornate hamlet]

We do have it for BB, so maybe it works for assail's RMB

[strong gulch]

So asking for claification is a good idea.

[ornate hamlet]

Garshark

[vernal blaze]

what do i change here

[broken carbon]

what

you guys r confusing me

[vernal blaze]

i think flesh tearer was like smackdown or something before so consider it dead

[queen fog]

exactly what he said, BB gets effected by pings

[mossy oyster]

flesh tearer to precog

[broken carbon]

does it?

[strong gulch]

tag, not halo from BB and assail RMB

[broken carbon]

i haven’t used BB in ages

[strong gulch]

As far as I know, BB prioritizing a tagged or pinged enemy is false.

[broken carbon]

yeah i don’t think that’s true either

i think there might be a level prioritization with elites and specials

and that’s what gets pinged

so it could just be a misattribution

[mild bear]

awright, i wanna put some spice back into my psyker gameplay. what are some silly or off-meta builds y'all have?

[strong gulch]

That's my thinking.

[broken carbon]

purg staff with deimos

[round coyote]

Does assail count as ranged for bounties

Need Melk money

[strong gulch]

Blazing spirit illisi with scrier's gaze.

LMB/ primary only runs on staves. (trauma get surge blessing )

Flesh tearer + lacerate knife.

Staff bonks.

[fresh reef]

saw another psyker running this build, and just

what the fuck

(that was a lie this is my build)

[restive ice]

become tough

[mild bear]

hey wait a minute, i think i've played with you before

[fresh reef]

hey that's me

neat

[mild bear]

i had that picture saved for like a week 'cause i thought that name was funny, i had no idea you were in here

[mental grail]

what the fuck

is that staff a gun???

[fresh reef]

my honest reaction

[strong gulch]

Yes.

[round coyote]

Cool

Thanks

[fresh reef]

dual wielding guns on a non-scrier's build

[mental grail]

you are unhinged

[fresh reef]

exceptionally

consider the following

blazing spirit + surge trauma staff

the crafting update ain't ready for my silly ass

[upper sun]

ITS TIME TO STOP

[restive ice]

no

keep going

[upper sun]

yeah ur one to talk

[restive ice]

wow ok

[upper sun]

oh sorry let me translate that for you

[mental grail]

cease

[upper sun]

"y-yeah y-ywow w-wone t-to t-talk"

[restive ice]

aww thanky wankies pookie nuzzles your necky wecky

[upper sun]

😠

[fresh reef]

nay

[mental grail]

Become sane.

Rejoin us.

[lethal lagoon]

I read the QA, they don't sound like they are lying, so which weapon was it again, the new shotgun on psyker

[upper sun]

yeah

[lethal lagoon]

I'll post a scoreboard and if I die, I'll clip it

[upper sun]

"if"

[lethal lagoon]

What's the best blessings for that god awful amalgamation of everything I hate in every game ever made?

[upper sun]

both barrels scatter shot? could also go scattershot manstopper

but no way you have manstopper

[lethal lagoon]

If manstopper only counts for this specific shotgun

Then no.

[upper sun]

yeah it doesnt share blessings

[lethal lagoon]

Then yeah, 0 chance.

That's actually kinda BM

Of them

It doesn't share with any old shotguns?

[upper sun]

nope!

[lethal lagoon]

But I guess with the crafting update coming, it doesn't matter.

And they made it so shit, so who would care

[upper sun]

🙂

it works on weapon spec vet

[lethal lagoon]

What's my melee weapon?

[upper sun]

🤔

dclaw 1

[lethal lagoon]

Okay time for EP smite build

[upper sun]

[lethal lagoon]

I'm unfortunately not that much of a little bitch, no blitz for me

I will be using kinetic flayer though, it fits the vibe

I'm actually kinda sad I lost the bet

Cause like, I'll be probably 20th mastery on all my normal weapons

So no grinding

[upper sun]

its ok wipe your tears with all the GREAT gear you're gonna have

[lethal lagoon]

Which is like the whole reason I didn't farm blessings, I wanted to experience the system

But it seems like the reqs for hitting lvl 20, or close to it, are relatively low for old players

Like all the farming you did, in a different way, was still pointless

[upper sun]

oh noooo surrenders evi 2 for rev it up

[lethal lagoon]

You literally just need most of the t4 blessings.

All your work, but to ruin

[upper sun]

oh nooooo surrenders flamer for quickflame 1

[lethal lagoon]

It's time to despair

Do I have to a auric mael or is auric t5 fine

[orchid shadow]

All the crafting update is going to do for me is let me have my god damn Flak 4 / Elite 4 on my Surge staff.

[upper sun]

auric t5 is fine

[lethal lagoon]

I can't remember the last time I wasn't 1st

[upper sun]

YOU KNOW IT

[lethal lagoon]

This will decimate my ego

Oh wait, that was recently

Okay ego fine

[broken carbon]

what bet

[lethal lagoon]

That even if you have all blessings, it will only raise your mastery to lvl 9

But it turns out you just need 70 80% of the blessings, with higher weight on t4, to hit lvl 20

[broken carbon]

what was the punishment

[lethal lagoon]

auric t5, they choose loadout

[broken carbon]

lmfao

flesh tearer lacerate knife las pistol

[lethal lagoon]

That's, fine?

Not even a real punishment

[upper sun]

too usable

[broken carbon]

true

[lethal lagoon]

true and real