I'll be moving next week to Europe and well, no more chill aussies to play with
#psyker-class
upper sun
also no more 729 minute queue time 
upper sun
i wonder how DT is in Europe
its alright
cosmic sigil
i did not have to wait that long for Aurics
upper sun
welll can you imagine getting games at 4 am?
cosmic sigil
what was cool is that it's the same 30 players
cosmic sigil
welll can you imagine getting games at 4 am?
no
upper sun
well in europe you can
lethal lagoon
welll can you imagine getting games at 4 am?
Me when U.S and get games literally any time of the day
🇺🇸
upper sun
crafting update will fix it
lethal lagoon
Me when I don't have to deal with sweats cause most of my games are gamepass and xbox players
lethal lagoon
Bro I played a few games with jstr in asia, and first game we have a 1000+ vet running plasma gun.
And it's like...
is this fun for you?
upper sun
Bro I played a few games with jstr in asia, and first game we have a 1000+ vet r...
same we stomped
lethal lagoon
Stomping is fun once or twice
upper sun
i was under zero threat
lethal lagoon
And then it's just boring
I need to get some friends who never played into this game so I can have both co-op fun and actual game fun.
Next time game is on sale Ima just go gift it a bunch to people I know RL
upper sun
my friends all quit 😭
upper sun
Next time game is on sale Ima just go gift it a bunch to people I know RL
I EVEN OFFERED TO SOME
lethal lagoon
Same. And it makes sense, game is so boring when you have 4 competent people play together.
lethal lagoon
Literally best zombie game ever made and because fatshark shit the bed and there's only one dev working on it, it's relatively unknown.
I wonder if things would have been different if they were honest and released early access
You can't have "coming soon" text in a released game lmao
upper sun
i only found out about darktide because of spectating a random person on my friends list
upper sun
henry cavill is the only person that can save us at this point 😭
lethal lagoon
upper sun
amazon warhammer darktide corssover when???
strong gulch
I need to get some friends who never played into this game so I can have both co...
You can carry my zealot. All of my games sense is yeeted when I play that class.
To be fair, I refuse to learn lessons on psyker too. 💀 
strong gulch
Is that a tree joke?
lethal lagoon
No, im playing black myth wukong atm lmao
Insurence is taking forever, so I still don't have a deck door. Contractors negotiating with them for a while now on a bunch of stuff they lowballed hard.
Like they gave pre-covid prices for a cheap version of my deck door. They wilding.
strong gulch
Insurance... ugh. Making professionals and customers/patients alike miserable.
lethal lagoon
Literally the 2nd claim on my house in the 20 years my family has lived here, wtf.
If we had just invested the money we spent on insurence, we could literally buy a more expensive house.
What a scam
Of course you legally have to have insurence with a mortgage(scamdge )
strong gulch
Still a scam.
Unrelated and unserious. This head piece with the pipes not connected to anything is funny to me.
strong gulch
Bottom left
lethal lagoon
Oh, it's "unequiped"
I think you put it on that fan
What purpose that could serve is beyond me
strong gulch
It can connect to this top tho
lethal lagoon
That set makes me wish we had more "shoulder" psyker sets.
Like WoW pvp gear vibes
Gimme some fancy pauldrons
strong gulch
I didn't even shriek as often as I could have. Surge PC Wildfire stealing purg's sb application strike again. I didn't even shriek as often as I could have.
Also, 14 barrels is some ogryn shit.
long wharf
god damn, how stupid is it to announce the itemization trailer debut and not just show the damn thing when it's ready?
slow karma
No less stupid than any roadmap in any otherr game
long wharf
nah, it'd be like getting all excited at the announcement for the announcement of the roadmap
slow karma
You've been waiting for months for this update, a few more hours wont kill you
long wharf
"OMG they're thinking about talking about it!"
slow karma
It's to get people spun up. They could have told us this trailer was dropping like a week in advance. in a text blurb or something but having such a narrow window helps spin up activity around it.
long wharf
honestly, there's literally nothing FS can do to pull me away from Space Marine 2 at this point
slow karma
It's honestly more an indicator of the use of the premiere function on YouTube than their marketing but still
long wharf
FS is going to feel the weight of SM2's effect on the playerbase
slow karma
Not hard for me to come back since I was never interested in SM2 and done have it
don't*
Hell, this is just a trailer explaining things, not the actual launch date. So they have time to let folks get SM2 out of their system
long wharf
oh boy.
that's incredibly optimistic of you
FS will need to wait until October to dodge the initial pull of SM2, I gaurantee it
slow karma
The fuck do you mean? this is how it works. I've been a part of these interlocking communities for too long not to see the patterns.
Also they're two different games. People can enjoy multiple games at once
long wharf
very true... normally
slow karma
That's not exactly outside the realm of possiblility, late september seems like a reasonable point to drop the patch
long wharf
I honestly expect FS to drop it in October, regardless
slow karma
Yeah that was just an "earliest possible" estimate.
long wharf
if SM2 has a coop horde mode...
that puts it in direct competition with Darktide for player engagement
north hatch
https://i.imgur.com/im6bhVo.jpeg PLEASE GODS
slow karma
Sure, but then you have to consider folks like me that don't give a shit about SM2 in the first place. And the fact that people already own this game as well as y'know....not....being such a doomer about ones hobbies.
north hatch
Fuck
restive ice
dockets is bis
long wharf
Sure, but then you have to consider folks like me that don't give a shit about S...
there's always going to be people that don't give a shit
put I'm not exaggerating when I say Space Marine 2 is the most anticipated WH40k title this year
slow karma
Yeah I know. It's not going to make Darktide unplayable however.
long wharf
never said it would
it might be the impetus FS needs to implement allowing people to play by themselves with bots
north hatch
Ngl I feel like most of the people who were disillusioned with the game have already left
long wharf
I'm not disillusioned with the game
slow karma
Most being he key word here
long wharf
but I'm definitely not touching it until it gets much needed QoL
slow karma
That's a bald-faced lie
long wharf
and new content
slow karma
You are always annoyed
long wharf
nah, you don't know me nor my mind
slow karma
About something, minor or otherwise
north hatch
I'm prob gonna stop playing darktide when SM2 comes out but like I'll come back later I do that with like every game I own
long wharf
instead it's good gameplay surrounded by awful dev design decisions
fossil ingot
i finished the perilous focus challenge
i genuinely felt weight of my shoulders that sucked
north hatch
Yeahhh but it's kinda like whatever y'know? Game could be better but I guess just play it until it doesn't feel fun anymore and I think that's good enough
A dollar per hour y'know?
long wharf
Yeahhh but it's kinda like whatever y'know? Game could be better but I guess jus...
this is generally true of every game you play, yes
if you find yourself forcing yourself to play despite not enjoying it, it's time to reevaluate yourself
slow karma
Everyone's definition of "greatness" is wildly different. I take that I'm given in this regard because I'm not the devs of this game, What I want has no bearing on what they intend to ship or what they want to make. In fact the need to right the ship is why our content rollout is so miserable. They can't both fix fundamentals and give us a breadth of content at the same time.
tired estuary
I hope sm2 is cool but I really don't expect to get the same playtime out of it as I have DT
north hatch
i finished the perilous focus challenge
i genuinely felt weight of my shoulders ...
I spent a good while trying to get it a few monthjs ago and then gave up
long wharf
Everyone's definition of "greatness" is wildly different. I take that I'm given ...
actually, FS has never been capable of rapid content development
long wharf
regardless of what they need to fix
maiden bronze
luckily they are very different games so you can enjoy both
maiden bronze
I just want more Warhammer
north hatch
Shame they're only for multiplayer
long wharf
I imagine it'd be a very different game if we were to play as chaos marines
upper sun
If the crafting update is even remotely functional i'd finally put a positive review of the game
slow karma
No, but rapid isn't what I said. They could make more and bette in the time they take if they didn't have to rewrite the game every few months to stop people from crying about something
lethal lagoon
because Darktide could be *great*
I hate how good this game is.
That's a non-starter, even in a utopia, people will cry and complain.
north hatch
No, but rapid isn't what I said. They could make *more and bette* in the time th...
I feel like a lot of the criticism the game faces is valid though
upper sun
ofc
long wharf
I mean, let's take off all the rose-tinted glasses and recognize what they called "above and beyond extra effort" cosmetics
upper sun
crafting sucks mission board sucks servers suck cosmetics shop sucks
lethal lagoon
Any critcism of a early access game that did a fake full release is valid, change my mind
slow karma
Oh of course it is. I'm not gonna say it didn't need the work it's gotten and still getting
upper sun
but the game is fun despite all that
slow karma
But people complain about wanting what they want and shut out the bigger picture.
north hatch
And unfortunately darktide is one of those games that follows the general trend where the beta's like literally the entire game and all the issues that were in the beta are still extremely present
long wharf
yeah, FS tripped and fell into a fun formula
slow karma
When you understand why things are ein the state they're in, things become fare more tolerable on a baseline level
north hatch
343 how could you ruin halo infinite like this 😭
It looked so good before release
Sob
lethal lagoon
And unfortunately darktide is one of those games that follows the general trend ...
I dunno if features of the game literally being unfinished counts as an "issue"
lethal lagoon
Halo isn't even a good IP, fight me. The company that made it was just good.
upper sun
any halo after reach smh
long wharf
and I didn't enjoy Reach's multiplayer
north hatch
Reach's multiplayer was ass
long wharf
the Halo IP was great through Halo 3
lethal lagoon
Meh.
north hatch
I still find it so weird hjow much people love reach it's like Infinite warfare all over again
long wharf
did you read the books?
north hatch
I like reach a lot but like
upper sun
halo 1 was like my first actual multiplayer shooter it was so fucking good
lethal lagoon
Read the books of a video game? I'm not that based.
long wharf
I taught my boys how to play FPS with Halo CE
slow karma
Halo isn't even a good IP, fight me. The company that made it was just good.
He says now that bungie is collapsing in on themselves
upper sun
thats a good dad right there
lethal lagoon
He says now that bungie is collapsing in on themselves
Right, because the people that made it changed.
north hatch
He says now that bungie is collapsing in on themselves
Bruh Bungie how could you ruin Destiny 2 😭
long wharf
nah, the IP was changed over time
lethal lagoon
With hot chick
upper sun
forcing mine to play DT if it survives till then
lethal lagoon
Yeah, they somehow made it worse.
long wharf
the 343 devs took it in stupid directions
north hatch
I'd play the shit out of Destiny if they didn't sunset so much content and make it like $100 to play at the bare minimum
long wharf
the original Halo IP seen throughout 1-3 was great
slow karma
That's not exactly relevant to anything, that's just your opinion on halo as an IP
lethal lagoon
It's kinda relevant? "How could they ruin such a great IP" "Well it wasn't that great"
slow karma
It as iconic and set a standard for FPS games way back when
north hatch
Halo 2's story was incredible
north hatch
Basically like every trilogy ever
upper sun
I'd play the shit out of Destiny if they didn't sunset so much content and make ...
ye destiny 2 is alright if it was so fucking expensive and if they didnt keep vaulting the content you pay for
long wharf
guy, the game wouldn't have been as amazing if it wasn't steeped in its lore
lethal lagoon
What was halo 3 about? I don't fucking know. However it's by far my best memories playing a video game.
long wharf
it was about, and I quote my wife, "that Master Chief guy piloting his robot, Halo"
lethal lagoon
guy, the game wouldn't have been as amazing if it wasn't steeped in its lore
I think there's a good argument to be made that passion for lore will correlate with a great game, but that doesn't mean the lore itself mattered.
long wharf
I think there's a good argument to be made that passion for lore will correlate ...
the lore drove everything, as Bungie back then was known for
upper sun
I loved it when chief master shot the big gun and said it Halo'in time
my favorite part of halo 3
lethal lagoon
the lore drove everything, as Bungie back then was known for
The gameplay drove everything, keep in mind Halo was popular among knuckle draggers.
north hatch
I think there's a good argument to be made that passion for lore will correlate ...
I think the most important part for a campaign is just to translate the lore into an easily digestible story for the player to engage with while also playing the game
long wharf
The gameplay drove everything, keep in mind Halo was popular among knuckle dragg...
this is a really stupid take
Halo was so good that it attracted everyone
FPS nerds and jocks/knuckledraggers
split lance
how good is this? got it from emporers blessing
upper sun
The gameplay drove everything, keep in mind Halo was popular among knuckle dragg...
idk man back then games were harder people still had to put in an effort
north hatch
how good is this? got it from emporers blessing
Either keep it and level it to 380 when the itemization updatge comes out
upper sun
ye two gun system came from halo
long wharf
I ran Halo CE MP parties
north hatch
And swap everything on it
upper sun
how good is this? got it from emporers blessing
its pretty good
north hatch
Or farm for another one and recycle it for uncanny strike IV
upper sun
groaners for maniacs and either keep shred or change it into rampage
north hatch
And try ot get a better one
upper sun
nah it has good stats
long wharf
I was in the Army back in 2001, and we would run LAN cables between rooms for 16 player fun
split lance
im thinking of easting it for uncanny
upper sun
keep it maybe in the crafting update you can boost it to 380
long wharf
god damn those were magical times
split lance
keep it maybe in the crafting update you can boost it to 380
but since its mk2 isnt mk4 better
long wharf
talking shit by yelling between rooms at other teams
upper sun
but since its mk2 isnt mk4 better
oh wait lmao i didnt notice
north hatch
I didnt notice either
restive ice
but since its mk2 isnt mk4 better
you can also swap between marks with the update
upper sun
still maybe it gets buffed in the future
long wharf
if you get a good 380 stat weapon, hold onto it
north hatch
Halo reach had amazing cinematography
upper sun
you can also swap between marks with the update
wait seriouslu
long wharf
upcoming update will supposedly let us swap around variants at will
lethal lagoon
Wait wut?
upper sun
damn
lethal lagoon
Clad is about to bust.
jovial juniper
but since its mk2 isnt mk4 better
Moveset preference
long wharf
he might have
lethal lagoon
upper sun
thats more than we desrve
split lance
you can also swap between marks with the update
do we know how the update is going to work?
long wharf
do we know how the update is going to work?
we're going to get details hopefully tomorrow
north hatch
Probably my favourite cutscenes out of any Halo game I loved how a ton of shots were through the perspective of cameras in the actual setting
split lance
we're going to get details hopefully tomorrow
i saw that, wait is it just the preview? i thought it was the whole update droppping
long wharf
nope, just a video about the update
long wharf
and this is why I got annoyed at FS
upper sun
this baby is gonna become an agri with flakiac
north hatch
do we know how the update is going to work?
All we know is you can level to 380, using the weapon will let you unlock blessings for it until you get all of them, and you won't be restricted to only 2 changes
long wharf
for announcing the premier of their update announcement
lethal lagoon
MFW when a 200 person company updates slower than an indie with 1 dev and 10 people playing it
long wharf
we don't know yet
long wharf
just being able to swap variants at will is going to mean a lot of rebalancing work
split lance
All we know is you can level to 380, using the weapon will let you unlock blessi...
so this staff can then become perfect
upper sun
someone check the code if they're labled as p something instead of different names kek
north hatch
MFW when a 200 person company updates slower than an indie with 1 dev and 10 peo...
Honestly it's the dev teams philosophy for game design that matter more tbh
lethal lagoon
so this staff can then become perfect
Nah quell and warp need to be flipped
split lance
Nah quell and warp need to be flipped
i havent rolled anything better unfortunately
long wharf
nobody has any info yet on just how we'll be able to modify stats
long wharf
nothing they've said so far even hints at being able to adjust the stat distro to what we want
long wharf
I expect them to tie stat "progression" to item level
split lance
<a:peepoDab:857831837397024798>
long wharf
i.e. the point distribution at 380 is fixed at item creation
and we get it at less than 380
upper sun
i.e. the point distribution at 380 is fixed at item creation
this is what i expect tbh
lethal lagoon
<a:dab:1133544087849541734>
long wharf
and level it up to the 380 values
upper sun
cant wait to buff this to 380 i wonder where the points will go 🤔
long wharf
anyways, I'm definitely going to watch the video tomorrow
upper sun
oops wrong picture
long wharf
I'm just not going in with any expectations
long wharf
FS has beat that out of me
split lance
Slow it down brother.
unfortunately people dont have the attention span that they ysed too
upper sun
Hmmm where will the 2 pointss go???
strong gulch
I never had the attention span.
split lance
im just getting back into the game now tho
so tryna just play for money and such to stock up for update
im muhc worse than before
lethal lagoon
I might spam some EP smite shriek games before the update, because I suspect there will be a big change reguarding that build.
long wharf
guys, I don't normally get super hyped for games these days, but Space Marine 2 has done it to me
my body is ready
split lance
i died 2x on a regualt heresy mission it was painful
upper sun
same
lethal lagoon
upper sun
it looks great aside from the microtransactions
long wharf
and the craziest thing is the weapon audio design is what really got me from the weapon trailer
split lance
it looks great aside from the microtransactions
deafult skin top frag is where its at
long wharf
all the weapon audio sounded so god damn good
upper sun
deafult skin top frag is where its at
RIGHT HERE
split lance
nothing to upset people that dropped 100usd on the game thaan to get beat by someone who could barely afford it
upper sun
shit i read that as ww@
lethal lagoon
If someone is running no frame, reject prisoner, and they are bad at the game, I think they should just be banned honestly.
Fatshark get on it
north hatch
guys, I don't normally get super hyped for games these days, but Space Marine 2 ...
The thing that hyped me the most was the fact that leakers leaked basically 99% of the game
long wharf
nothing to upset people that dropped 100usd on the game thaan to get beat by som...
only children get upset that someone beat them in a fair contest
long wharf
regardless of how much money is spent
lethal lagoon
only children get upset that someone beat them in a fair contest
Adults just twist logic so every contest is unfair
long wharf
Adults just twist logic so every contest is unfair
that's some man-child talk right there
split lance
have you ever played against grown ahhh men that have a wife and kids but scream at a screen
bc i have
and its fucking hilarious
long wharf
have you ever seen a grown man naked?
north hatch
only children get upset that someone beat them in a fair contest
This is the most false statement ever lol
lethal lagoon
that's some man-child talk right there
But It is a man
split lance
have you ever seen a grown man naked?
im 23 do i count as a grown man
long wharf
depends, are you fan of greco-roman wrestling?
split lance
bc if so then yes
north hatch
Adults are basically children but big let's be honest
long wharf
nah, that's not the case at all
split lance
depends, are you fan of greco-roman wrestling?
im a 2x national champ at folkstyle and i loath greco roman
maiden bronze
haha What does how much money you spend on game have anything to do with it. Let me make that make sense then. they work harder irl and therefor have less time to play but have more money
lethal lagoon
The better you know someone, the less actual adults you'll realize exist in the world.
north hatch
haha What does how much money you spend on game have anything to do with it. Let...
I lost track of the convo and idk what topic were at now
long wharf
maiden bronze
im just glancing myself and saw some stupid statement
split lance
The better you know someone, the less actual adults you'll realize exist in the ...
everyones just large kids who have to pretend they know what theyre doing
lethal lagoon
I lost track of the convo and idk what topic were at now
I think you were saying how much you love spamming EP smite with shriek.
long wharf
I rewatched Airplane! just the other day, movie is still fantastic
north hatch
I think you were saying how much you love spamming EP smite with shriek.
Oh that's true I do love spamming EP smite with shriek
Wait no that's not yrue
True
I don't use EP
north hatch
NOOO PLEASE
lethal lagoon
Extra Penis
north hatch
Empowered psionics
long wharf
Extended Play
split lance
Extra Penis
ty
long wharf
old record term
maiden bronze
EPeen
north hatch
I am a disrupt destiny user so I don't use EP
split lance
Empowered psionics
pls no lying in chat
north hatch
pls no lying in chat
I plead the fifth
split lance
I plead the fifth
then plead
north hatch
That line goes hard
north hatch
Should write for a cop drama
split lance
i should actually go shower
restive ice
wait seriouslu
im interpreting this first paragraph generously
upper sun
If someone is running no frame, reject prisoner, and they are bad at the game, I...
smh ikr
north hatch
What are marks?
long wharf
im interpreting this first paragraph generously
not even "generously", that's literally what it says
the variants
all the recon lasguns are variants of the base "recon lasgun" weapon
north hatch
So I can switch from the mkvi to the mkvii?
lethal lagoon
My heart has already been rended today
north hatch
But keep the same stats?
split lance
My heart has already been rended today
wanna hug
upper sun
<:feelsEh:585556120140251137>
WAIT THATS WHERE THE MEDIPACK WENT
upper sun
That asshole didnt even ping it
split lance
Only if you linger slightly too long and then awkwardly pat my back.
i gotchu bud
lethal lagoon
split lance
ill hold on so you cant leave even if you try
lethal lagoon
Join the EP, become the EP, use your extra EP when your current P runs out of length.
upper sun
ping while downed
medipack here
ITS NOT THAT HARD
lethal lagoon
Man, my upload spd is so slow today
potent echo
16 HOURS WOOOOOO
lethal lagoon
16 HOURS WOOOOOO
It's a video not an update, if that's what you mean
north hatch
Join the EP, become the EP, use your extra EP when your current P runs out of le...
Wait so how does the EP charges work
potent echo
SM2 more like SMH2 dead game
upper sun
Completely out of context now
me uploading 10 minutes later
long wharf
now be honest - who here is actively chatting in the youtube video chat section for the itemization update video?
split lance
i hope they buff the assail
potent echo
Video is good enough 🥲
north hatch
Cause if it's for the entire duration of the cast like how long you hold mouse 1 that's kinda
Ridiculous no?
lethal lagoon
Wait so how does the EP charges work
Yes.
split lance
now be honest - who here is actively chatting in the youtube video chat section ...
ill go in there rn and talk about something random
craggy jewel
Join the EP, become the EP, use your extra EP when your current P runs out of le...
im quite new to teh game how do u get the damage numbers on the screen
north hatch
You basically just have permanent up time then no?
long wharf
ill go in there rn and talk about something random
don't lie
lethal lagoon
im quite new to teh game how do u get the damage numbers on the screen
PC or gamepass can use mods
maiden bronze
I have horrible experiences with smite in public games
north hatch
Would be better if it drained a charge every second or something
craggy jewel
i have it on steam
strong gulch
Ridiculous no?
That's part of why it's so OP. Shriek doesn't interrupt the cast.
north hatch
That's why buffing it was so dumb
Wait so with 1 charge you can just smite indefinitely?
north hatch
Since it doesn't generate peril?
lethal lagoon
Wait so with 1 charge you can just smite indefinitely?
It does generate peril, that's an old bug.
north hatch
Oh
long wharf
EP used to have 100% peril cost reduction for smite
lethal lagoon
But with Pyschknietc aura and shriek, you can smite till everything is dead on occassion.
long wharf
that was quickly changed
north hatch
Ok cause thatd be crazy
split lance
ive been gone for a while, havent seen a single person using assail, is it still good?
long wharf
it was crazy
north hatch
ive been gone for a while, havent seen a single person using assail, is it still...
I use assail a lot with gun psyker
long wharf
just like how people could also put out stupid numbers of bubble shields
north hatch
It's just like an in between for BB and smite
split lance
I use assail a lot with gun psyker
i suck balls with gun psyker
north hatch
Ones better for hordes the other better for single target
strong gulch
The infinite smite and it melting systems when it 1st came out was awful. It was also funny, but dang was it awful.
north hatch
Assail does a mix of both but is ass against crushers and bulwarks
craggy jewel
thank you
north hatch
Brain burst
split lance
oh t y
restive ice
brazilian booty
lethal lagoon
The basics
lethal lagoon
3x, because why not.
north hatch
Ok so that's good enough to kill some of the stronger specials pretty fast right?
Like ragers
And maybe mailers?
Maulers
lethal lagoon
Ok so that's good enough to kill some of the stronger specials pretty fast right...
1-100 ragers will die in 8 seconds of ep smite plus shriek
strong gulch
BB
Yeah Brain Burst. It is actually called Brain Rupture in the talent tree. It was originally called Brain Burst then renamed. We never adapted.
lethal lagoon
split lance
Yeah Brain Burst. It is actually called Brain Rupture in the talent tree. It was...
imagine adapting
coulfnt be me
north hatch
I've only really ran EP with BB tbh idk how I feel about smite cause then I'd lose out on DD
strong gulch
coulfnt be me
nor i
north hatch
But like I feel like smite + shrieks damage is already good enough no?
And then I can use a gun for mop up
strong gulch
feck. I need to buy a mop
north hatch
wait so Smite is good rn?
Smites just op in general
lethal lagoon
wait so Smite is good rn?
EP smite shriek will mindlessly carry you through auric t5s/maels
It's the resident braindead build, everyone should play it once just to see how stupid it is.
north hatch
The ability to lockdown an entire area
split lance
It's the resident braindead build, everyone should play it once just to see how ...
pls send build :)
lethal lagoon
Smites just op in general
Well.... there's nothing OP about finishing an Auric mael with 200k damage.
north hatch
Is pretty strong
upper galleon
The ability to lockdown an entire area
more like kill an entire area
lethal lagoon
Smite bubble is the "support" build that doesn't actually support and does 0 damage.
Need that smite shriek.
upper galleon
the lockdown by itself is limited, EP smite shriek lets you actually kill stuff
lethal lagoon
Whatever melee weapon you want, literally doesn't matter, I barely melee when I turned off my brain
north hatch
Well.... there's nothing OP about finishing an Auric mael with 200k damage.
Ok wait so smite + scriers + EP > smite + scriers + DD/ smite + shriek + DD I'm assuming?
upper galleon
not grabbing KD?
north hatch
Cause I do still want to use guns
upper galleon
Ok wait so smite + scriers + EP > smite + scriers + DD/ smite + shriek + DD I'm ...
don't go scriers with smite
go assail if you wanna use guns
restive ice
atlas is kineticphobic
lethal lagoon
Ok wait so smite + scriers + EP > smite + scriers + DD/ smite + shriek + DD I'm ...
You can use revolver with ep smite shriek.
upper galleon
lets you save ammo, still gives you some good clear
lethal lagoon
But smite without shriek is ass
north hatch
I've used smite and BB with guns and it's been actually not bad for auric
Definitely not optimal but I enjoy it enough
split lance
Use with surge staff
why surge
lethal lagoon
I just hate bubbles
split lance
https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127
oh lmao
lethal lagoon
Plus getting quick EP stacks
It also fits the mindless factor
You don't want to be thinking too much
upper galleon
why surge
good pair with smite
smite can't do single target and it can't do distance.
lethal lagoon
Plus no one kills ranged mobs
upper galleon
surge does single target and has the left click orb
lethal lagoon
So surge is always nice for that
strong gulch
L4L
Lightning for Lightning
upper galleon
(void is better but surge is more thematic with smite)
split lance
https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127
so what the way to play it? use smite till full paril, shriek, full paril, wait, reset?
upper galleon
so what the way to play it? use smite till full paril, shriek, full paril, wait,...
not full
your smite will cancel
north hatch
Sorry I wasn't paying attention this build is better with staves no? Only gun I could really run is zarona and nothing else
lethal lagoon
so what the way to play it? use smite till full paril, shriek, full paril, wait,...
85-99
lethal lagoon
Sorry I wasn't paying attention this build is better with staves no? Only gun I ...
Yeah
upper galleon
i think it's 85%?
north hatch
Damn
strong gulch
85+ peril with default ui. Full ends the cast.
jovial narwhal
i feel like this should be 400-600, 200 isn't enough to kill even the most basic enemies
lethal lagoon
I mean you can run columbus, no one will get mad, just grab a d4 or something for crushers
split lance
sick
upper galleon
EP smite only consumes one charge per channel so extending it is very important
north hatch
I'll never experience the pleasure of smite + shriek + EP 😭
upper galleon
i feel like this should be 400-600, 200 isn't enough to kill even the most basic...
yea that's why the fire is just better
lethal lagoon
so just repeat that over and over
Yes, literally 0 brainpower.
jovial juniper
i feel like this should be 400-600, 200 isn't enough to kill even the most basic...
400 you'd get to kill stuff for free
lethal lagoon
I just exist
upper galleon
it doesn't even do 100-200 to all enemies it has ADMs
split lance
im still not confident to go into auric rn lmao
upper galleon
but hey, soulblaze has synergy with the rest of psyker so i'll be fine with it
strong gulch
If you mess around in the meat grinder, you CAN get full SB stacks at 84 peril, but I the the decimals feck with it. So 85 guarantees all 6 sb stacks.
split lance
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046914150363844779/127779622967...
what do the numbers below xhair mean
lethal lagoon
i feel like this should be 400-600, 200 isn't enough to kill even the most basic...
If you think that's bad, it falls off at like 10 meters, instead of the full 30 meters like creeping flames.
upper galleon
yep. shriek at 85% and you can often get multiple shrieks off
north hatch
Are there any good staff skins
split lance
which staff
lethal lagoon
I've never seen another
north hatch
"it is also a hammer"
lethal lagoon
north hatch
Fatshark please let me replace the staff aesthetic with me just flailing my hands at people 😭
vagrant grove
I'd like some C&C on my build
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9cdccba5-bcac-483e-8d83-8507ea841691/ciag-psyker-2
jovial narwhal
im currently running a tanky psyker shriek build, its far from meta but its fun
lethal lagoon
which staff
I like left, both are fine though.
strong gulch
Yes, that is good. Ideally charge rate would be higher, but this is still great. Obviously having a higher tier perk would be better.
split lance
I like left, both are fine though.
ill run it
lethal lagoon
Left is kinda my ideal stat disturbtion, especially for ep smite builds
north hatch
I'd like some C&C on my build
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9cdccba5...
Imo I really like Brian burst with EP just so I can spam brain burst a ton
strong gulch
which staff
370 base
north hatch
And kinetic flayer on a high rof weapon isn't bad if you time it for higher health enemies
vagrant grove
I don't ever use the blitz tbh, mostly just the absurd damage from scriers gaze
upper galleon
I'd like some C&C on my build
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9cdccba5...
deathspitter over fire frenzy but tbh it doesn't matter that much as long as you got dum dum. i'd swap wildfire with anything else tho tbh
jovial juniper
I'd like some C&C on my build
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9cdccba5...
Dumdum instead of Deathspitter
Mettle and perfect timing needed
upper galleon
Dumdum instead of Deathspitter
Mettle and perfect timing needed
oh damn i didn't notice that i just assumed the d blessing was dum dum xd
lethal lagoon
I'd like some C&C on my build
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9cdccba5...
Purloin and wildfire don't really make sense.
strong gulch
KF needs a rework or to be replaced
upper galleon
dum dum instead of fire frenzy
lethal lagoon
Mettle you 100% need
vagrant grove
It's fine I have this
lethal lagoon
Literally no point to run ciag without mettle
upper galleon
deathspitter gives power
vagrant grove
Mettle?
north hatch
I don't ever use the blitz tbh, mostly just the absurd damage from scriers gaze
How come? You could swap to assail or smite then
vagrant grove
Yeah I was about to say
vagrant grove
I'm pretty sure I got that
upper galleon
oh wait
strong gulch
upper galleon
hmm
jovial juniper
But you don't have perfect timing 
upper galleon
i just think wildfire is useless on your build
north hatch
Also idk if I have good knowledge for builds but I found anticipation to be kinda ass
upper galleon
you have no fire gen outside of PC
vagrant grove
Assail has negative synergy with scriers gaze and the ciag
lethal lagoon
Assail is ammo control
vagrant grove
Switching wildfire out
upper galleon
Assail has negative synergy with scriers gaze and the ciag
no it doesn't. it lets you save ammo
north hatch
Assail has negative synergy with scriers gaze and the ciag
Just don't use them at the same time and it's fine
vagrant grove
I never have trouble with ammo though
lethal lagoon
But BB pysch aura is valid
upper galleon
you use assail when you don't need to use scrier's. it lets you pick off farther away enemies with fire and forget
lethal lagoon
wildfire and purloin are really the only major problems
upper galleon
and it lets you mince hordes
vagrant grove
Yeah but the CIAG does that too
lethal lagoon
Oh and deathspitter -> dumdum
vagrant grove
Why is purloin bad?
lethal lagoon
do the math
vagrant grove
Oh and deathspitter -> dumdum
yeah im swapping it
north hatch
Purloin and the other one I really dislike
vagrant grove
north hatch
It's rng
vagrant grove
to this
north hatch
Happens not very frequently
lethal lagoon
What exactly do you have unarmored for?
north hatch
Feels like a waste of a slot
upper galleon
elites> unarmored tbh
jovial juniper
Yeah but the CIAG does that too
With a whopping 1.15 cleave
lethal lagoon
BM is 100% peril for klling 100 enemies, purloin is 150% peril for killing 50 blue targets.
upper galleon
i'd still swap fire frenzy for deathspitter just cause power has more value than damage as a stat
lethal lagoon
Purloin is like the ugly cousin of the ugly inbred family
north hatch
Ngl I'm also not the biggest fan of BM
vagrant grove
I'll also switch to assail tbh, at least I'll try it out see if I like it. Last time I tried I hated it
lethal lagoon
You can grab -5% peril resist.
north hatch
But that's more personal preference
north hatch
Cpuld get psych aura from smite though
ornate hamlet
BM = funny scrier gaze horde clear
north hatch
Smite and scrier's is complete ass
Just don't use them at the same time and you're fine
north hatch
:+
I'm gonna keep using smite and scriers and cry cause I don't wanna invest in EP smite cause I hate staves
Damn I need to farm a good zarona though
jovial juniper
Cpuld get psych aura from smite though
So you can get 10% extra damage on smite 
Not to mention Warp Rider value
strong gulch
Might be a different story if smite hit weak spots. Could easily stack true aim.
Sigh, it was patched out.
vagrant grove
How's this
north hatch
And I put the point somewhere else
vagrant grove
Wait is anticipation good? It felt really
I just like the extra dodge
I got rid of it as you can see
lethal lagoon
That's a standard assail build
But compared to a based pysch aura scrier's build you are now just a basic gunker
upper sun
How's this
id lose the last gaze upgrade for soulstealer
north hatch
How's this
I would swap BM and take soul stealer imo
north hatch
But compared to a based pysch aura scrier's build you are now just a basic gunke...
Gunker for life
lethal lagoon
strong gulch
Soulstealer + assail is pretty tanky horde fighting
lethal lagoon
north hatch
But also why psych aura scriers if you're not gonna use BB at all no?
Feels like a waste of a blitz for 5%
lethal lagoon
pysch aura for scrier's cd
strong gulch
I'm not good enough at melee to confidently go gunking.
lethal lagoon
every elite killed is more SG
And SG columbus slaughters elites
Same with dueling sword
north hatch
I mean my psych aura scriers uses BB though
vagrant grove
But also why psych aura scriers if you're not gonna use BB at all no?
I do use bb, just mainly for snipers
north hatch
It's just I swapped DD for EP to spam brain burst on elites
vagrant grove
its too slow otherwise
north hatch
And I think that's better overall cause BBs cast is really spammable
And no peril cost
strong gulch
EP BB with KR and blue stim
jovial juniper
I'm not good enough at melee to confidently go gunking.
Just knife PA
strong gulch
Just knife PA<:bigbrain:808615471809036329>
bad hands 😭
jovial juniper
I tried with the Antax caxe but the pa feels slower
north hatch
I think this would my BB scriers
Was*
I made it from scratch so might not be 1:1
Wait I fucked it up
north hatch
vagrant grove
Also don't try to tell me to put bubble shield, the wall is so fraking good on maelstrom
north hatch
That's a pretty standard gun psyker shield build
vagrant grove
Oh actually? lmao
north hatch
How easy is the 25 stacks to maintain?
north hatch
Oh actually? lmao
Yeah aside from slight differences
vagrant grove
you just throw assail in the general direction of them
north hatch
It's basically the same
jovial juniper
How easy is the 25 stacks to maintain?
Hard
vagrant grove
It leaves you free to do cleaving and revolver dumps
It's hard without using assail
north hatch
I might run that instead of the 10 sec one when they fix the UI or if I ever decide to get those UI mods
Cause the assail DD bug sends me up the freaking wall
vagrant grove
I don't notice not having the extra up time
jovial juniper
I might run that instead of the 10 sec one when they fix the UI or if I ever dec...
Yeah this
north hatch
The only thing I'd say is I think quietude is like
vagrant grove
Plus because it goes down one at a time it's not too bad
ornate hamlet
no u
north hatch
But other than that it's basically what I use for shield assail gun psyker
vagrant grove
I never quell to be fair
ornate hamlet
Quietude and battle meditation are not mutually exclusive and also quell under different situations
vagrant grove
If I have high peril I am cleaving with the illisi or revolver dumping
ornate hamlet
Actually, isn't quietude the one that regens toughness on quell?
north hatch
Yeah
vagrant grove
then I dump assail when I getr battle meditation procs
ornate hamlet
Then they don't even have similar functions, how can one be better than the other
vagrant grove
Maybe swap perilous combustion for it?
north hatch
Perilous combinations really good though
vagrant grove
Oh wait I still have purloin providence
strong gulch
PC for life
north hatch
Then they don't even have similar functions, how can one be better than the othe...
Just cause it's a point swap
vagrant grove
swapping that lmao
ornate hamlet
But you need to cross quietude to get to BM, unless you're using the actual dookie that gives toughness when building peril
In which case L bozo ratio + owned + your dad's a heretic
north hatch
No you don't need to touch BM at all cause of perfect timing
Warp expenditures also better than BM imo no?
Since you have so many ways to stack toughness and it all adds up
ornate hamlet
BM gives you a good chance to not stop attacking to quell during hordes
north hatch
Idk it just feels too rng for my liking I'd rather put that point somewhere else
If I'm unlucky then I'm fucked either way but if I position myself well and stay with my team I can just quell or swap to my gun and let my peril go down naturally
north hatch
What's the base distance of auras?
north hatch
I wish that the website showed that too
I wish I didn't have to install a mod
Just to get a detailed explanation
ornate hamlet
Chadshark
vagrant grove
I love not putting in QoL features into products and refusing to implement even basic things
Like selling at hadron
boy is that a great feature
and ohhhhhhh man the hub!!
I love having to spend so much time walking around in a glorified menu!
north hatch
The entirety of deeprocks building/modification of weapons and classes happens entirely in one station
Why can't it be like that
Smh
Man I am a sellout for deeprock I think
I think I have issues
potent echo
Feels like the devs just wanna press quickplay
vagrant grove
Deeprock doesn't give my brain the same adrenaline for me
therefore I will never like it more then darktide
vagrant grove
I usually play scout on hazard 6 but like
I got way too good to play with my friends
restive ice
Man I am a sellout for deeprock I think
im out here riding that deeprock deepcock all night long
potent echo
Suffering from success
vagrant grove
and even in pubs I just never felt challenged
potent echo
Base haz5 really is too easy though
potent echo
I think they did in the latest update?
vagrant grove
Literally none of my friends (even the ones that fucking suck at video games) never play on haz 1-3
potent echo
Map seed
north hatch
Than anything else
potent echo
Hell yea lmao
potent echo
If it spawns you in some vertical ass hole yea good luck
north hatch
Where there's like 4 breeders 8 spitballers
Fuck you
Die
And I'm like yes
Thank you!
potent echo
Also the spore boss beside objective with zero cover mmm
north hatch
I think they did in the latest update?
They added haz 5+ but the balancing is really poor
potent echo
How bad is 5+
north hatch
They have 4 modifiers bug damage, wave size, dwarf vulnerability, and bug endurance
And you can enable them individually
vagrant grove
Thank you!
potent echo
And you can enable them individually
Guh
north hatch
Big damage and save size is like comparable to haz 6x2 so really nothing changes
Prob a bit easier
But dwarf vulnerability just means any ranged enemy
Instant 1 shot
potent echo
Why
north hatch
Which is pretty awful balancing
potent echo
That's so lame
north hatch
And then but endurance means your ammo economy is ruined
And if you follow basic scaling rules
potent echo
Ah yes the HD2 balancing
north hatch
Enemy hp is equivelant to like
potent echo
Unlimited enemies but we nerf ammo yes
north hatch
Hazard 11
Enemies
Yeah I think they were right with their initial decision to cater to the casual player base and only have haz 5
Cause if you really wanted to you can just play modded
vagrant grove
both hd2 and drg got put on the backburner for darktide and payday 3
potent echo
I imagine breakpoints all go out the window
north hatch
Pretty much yeah
potent echo
Why don't they just put starship troopers mod in
vagrant grove
I love those so much more
potent echo
Just more enemies
vagrant grove
this^^
potent echo
With same breakpoints
potent echo
Scout lol
north hatch
NTP is unsurprisingly king
potent echo
I forgor my dwarf terms
potent echo
Scout with m1 garand pierce cope
north hatch
both hd2 and drg got put on the backburner for darktide and payday 3
Honestly I'd rather just go back to payday 2
Payday 3 needs more work than darktide
potent echo
neuro toxin poison
Oh the gunner AC one
north hatch
Ye
vagrant grove
Well yeah, but also pd3 is cool in some ways
I prefer it over pd2 because its more like pd:th
lethal lagoon
Chadshark
Do we complain about a lack of basic features, or praise them for creating an insanely rare enviroment where mods function perfectly in an online game.
vagrant grove
Do we complain about a lack of basic features, or praise them for creating an in...
True though
north hatch
Mods function perfectly in deeprock and payday 2 no?
vagrant grove
I do love fatshark for that
potent echo
Imagine if hd2 had mods lol lmaoo
lethal lagoon
It's the old Bethesda question.
vagrant grove
Imagine if hd2 had mods lol lmaoo
it does
north hatch
I prefer it over pd2 because its more like pd:th
Is Pd3 not as fast as pd2?
lethal lagoon
Mods function perfectly in deeprock and payday 2 no?
"perfectly" in the same way as darktide?
Not even close
vagrant grove
payday 3 is very much a back to basics
sadly
back to basics also includes basic QOL lmao
north hatch
I mean deeprock has rampent cheaters I don't remember having issues with payday 2s modding
vagrant grove
so many pd2 cheaters
north hatch
But those aren't like glaring issues imo
lethal lagoon
payday 3 isn't a back to basic, it's a "Opps we are out of money please buy our sad cashgrab because of nostalgia"
potent echo
Blegh hd2 mods are like just model replacements
Where Spidey sense and weapon customization
Or psych ward
vagrant grove
I don't think pd3 was a money grab
north hatch
Low-key I miss payday 2s weird ass logic where only a single pellet for a shotgun needs to hit to do full damage
potent echo
Hell even hub hotkeys
lethal lagoon
I don't think pd3 was a money grab
vagrant grove
I think they got fucked in developer hell
lethal lagoon
vagrant grove
And because of that had to release the game YEARS before it shouldve been
potent echo
Yea they failed their bet so they
north hatch
I don't think pd3 was a money grab
I think they wanted to do payday 3 for a while but they got really desperate when their other games went to shit
lethal lagoon
They had a failed game and then churned out pure shit.
lethal lagoon
Yes exactly, cashgrab
vagrant grove
It didn't start as that though
lethal lagoon
Maybe
potent echo
No one truly starts as the villain
vagrant grove
in any case I think pd3 is a good game
vagrant grove
It's worth playing
north hatch
Low-key wasn't great for DSOD but man I miss the hell out of anarchist and izhma spam
vagrant grove
Also even if it is a bad game, i play with my dad and brothers so
north hatch
When I came back to it and saw there was an lmg meta and they nerfed 90% of the guns ammo economies I was like
Yikes
lethal lagoon
I mean I played hit each other with yardsticks with family and friends and it was great, doesn't make it a good game.
north hatch
Idk if that's still the case but damn I remember when the Thanatos was meta and didn't drop a bullet every 10 hours
lethal lagoon
If you ever need a fun game after watching starwars, cut a hole in a tennis ball, put it on the end of a yardstick, and hit each other
north hatch
Don't say we all when it's a personal pref 😭
potent echo
Amongdingus
north hatch
Idk payday 2 felt like there was so much random bullshit to it
Which is why I love it
vagrant grove
I see the appeal for a more serious game and a more funny game
north hatch
I wonder if payday 3 would ever have the same amount
vagrant grove
PD2 is ridiculous
ornate hamlet
PHAMYLYA
vagrant grove
I wonder if payday 3 would ever have the same amount
They already said they didn't want that I believe
north hatch
Yeah but like idk I feel like there's way better slower paced horde shooters
vagrant grove
They want to keep it more in line with the orginal inspiration for payday
north hatch
I wanna play GTFO but
vagrant grove
(heat)
north hatch
Their matchmaking system sucks
vagrant grove
you haven't played GTFO???
oh my god you dont have friends to play with???1
you have to play with friends
north hatch
None of my friends wanna play gtfo
north hatch
They're like waaaa waaa it's $30
Waaa why do we have to play gtfo we can go play deeprock
vagrant grove
hey i have a party if you want to try it out at least
vagrant grove
it's 23$
north hatch
I like buying things on sale >:(
vagrant grove
It is on sale you double dingus
north hatch
It's how I justify spending over $120 in my checkout
vagrant grove
It's usually 40
north hatch
Ok wait what region are you from
Because this shot
Is very not on sale for me
And is $44 CAD
north hatch
vagrant grove
here let me dm you
vagrant grove
How has our currency fallen so much
dm'd you, i think you have to go accept it now because discord is trying to make people be safer (they really should be doing more)
north hatch
Wait what are you doing?
Also @lethal lagoon https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9cdcd1e2-ad76-4d67-b28b-c26679cc8274 thoughts on this for gun psyker?
vagrant grove
Wait what are you doing?
Just sending you the sale website, its on sale on humble bundle
lethal lagoon
?
north hatch
Basically your build but instead of puppet master and solidity I took true aim instead
vagrant grove
incorrect build friend
north hatch
ashen schooner
wildfire with only perilous combustion to generate them?
ashen schooner
eh I guess
north hatch
Fuck the build site
vagrant grove
could be blaze sword
lethal lagoon
So I take wildfire on EP smite shriek because that build has a lot of "extra" points.
The problem is by going true aim
You no longer have "extra points"
So yeah, wildfire, not as worth.
restive ice
Fuck the build site
at this point you just gotta zoom out and screenshot
north hatch
Nothing changes though it's just no solidity
restive ice
the machine spirit is clearly displeased
north hatch
at this point you just gotta zoom out and screenshot
The talents page on one screen mod didn't work for me aaaaaa
I have to fucking take multiple screenshots!
restive ice
zoom out of the site and screenshot
north hatch
I can't screenshot in incognito 😭
restive ice
