I’m leveling penitences as a Veteran, I’m full of materials rn
#psyker-class
cobalt forge
mossy oyster
yea but saying assail sucks cause you cant take aura with it is funny
ofc aura is just broken
its flat CDR
upper sun
I’m leveling penitences as a Veteran, I’m full of materials rn
if you have any less than 300k plasteel you are not full of materials
late sapphire
You kill 2 gunners and venting shriek, everything else melts and then you venting shriek and the dogs die and you venting shriek
Sometimes i'm sitting there just jorking my illsi to get perils to shriek more
mossy oyster
You kill 2 gunners and venting shriek, everything else melts and then you ventin...
combine this with an illisi with like 30% warp resistance
maximum stacks of creeping flames
immediately after 3 special activates
late sapphire
Warp charges make it even funnier
upper sun
speaking of illisi someone fucking explain to me why helbore has better clear than illisi
cobalt forge
if you have any less than 300k plasteel you are not full of materials
Oh, I’ve got those actually
upper sun
Oh, I’ve got those actually
real
late sapphire
reak
patent wing
deimos is the better ilisi
upper sun
forget what i said then'
cobalt forge
The Psyker has the cool looking emergy sword?
late sapphire
This man can't spell, turn him into a servitor
cobalt forge
The Power Sword
upper sun
The Psyker has the cool looking emergy sword?
ye illisi and deimos
hearty dagger
speaking of illisi someone fucking explain to me why helbore has better clear th...
Bayomet
late sapphire
Force Swords
upper sun
deimos is kinda better tho
late sapphire
Technically not pswords
late sapphire
Means they don't share blessings & don't get power cycler
cobalt forge
deimos is kinda better tho
Well like the Chainswords for the Veteran aight
hearty dagger
yeah WHY THO
secret :3
upper sun
Technically not pswords
force power sword vs force blaze sword
fps vs fbs
very shrimple
late sapphire
first berson shooter game
mossy oyster
speaking of illisi someone fucking explain to me why helbore has better clear th...
because illisi doesnt deserve to be good
witch
late sapphire
I love hellbore bayonet vets
They always die to the stupidest things because they can't block
upper sun
because illisi doesnt deserve to be good
bruh they need to fix the second and third target damage scalling of illisi
mossy oyster
does it exponentially drop off
upper sun
ya
hearty dagger
WHY DOES A KNIFE STUCK TO A GUN HAVE BETTER CLEAR THAN A SWORD
Also probably since vet has more nodes that straight up buff melee (which i think includes the bayonet) while Psyker usually just gets a blanket buff to everything with peril which usually ends up being weaker since %damage increases can go fuck themselves
upper sun
Also probably since vet has more nodes that straight up buff melee (which i *thi...
😭
AAAAAAAAAAAA
unironically illisi and deimos can use buffs
late sapphire
does it exponentially drop off
they always do
hearty dagger
Why don't we have any damn nodes that increase attack speed or anything with higher peril?
hearty dagger
WHY IS IT ALWAYS JUST DAMAGE OR TAKING LESS DAMAGE.
upper sun
what if deimos had looping H2s?
hearty dagger
Penetration
mossy oyster
what if deimos had looping H2s?
just make that the obscurus so we have a reason to use it
upper sun
?
late sapphire
what if the deimos charge attack just blew everything in front of you up and instantly killed everything think abt it
mossy oyster
yes i chad'd the obscurus
hearty dagger
what if deimos had looping H2s?
Could be a good way to make the deimos less ass
late sapphire
Why can't I just cut a pogryn in half with one swing?
upper sun
Could be a good way to make the deimos less ass
wait wait wait wait wait
WAIT
looping heavy 1s
AND
LOOPING H2s
you need to do a push attack or a light attack for H2
hearty dagger
what if the deimos charge attack just blew everything in front of you up and ins...
I know it's a joke but that might actually help set it apart from the Obscurus
Obscurus: Single target damage
Deimos: Blow everything up in a cone behind the guy you just stabbed
hearty dagger
you need to do a push attack or a light attack for H2
I'd rather have the big stab immediately available over the H1 or having to do a light attack first
I'd rather it be light->h1->light->h1 and just have infinitely looping H2 in place of H1
I could probably have explained it better but i won't
upper sun
too many words as is 😭
late sapphire
They should give more weapons gimmicks like they did with the picks
hidden sweep loop on branx, hidden single targets on karsolas, stupid obnoxious sprint reset on borovian etc
mental grail
what if the deimos charge attack just blew everything in front of you up and ins...
I'm putting in your application for FS dev.
late sapphire
Noooo i don't want to go on 8 month long vacations 😢
patent wing
fs literally more vacation that working time
sweet beacon
Goddamn I hope fatshark doesn't read this discord for weapon balancing feedback
tulip kettle
nah true, imagine thinking deimos is not good
tulip kettle
imagine thinking obscuras is in any way better than deimos, at anything
upper sun
obs is fine
sweet beacon
it isn't
upper sun
its heavy attack is easier to hit but does less damage
tulip kettle
trauma is fine tbh, its just trrhe blazing spirit blessing
upper sun
its fine
tulip kettle
give us a lvl 4 that does 5 stacks on crit
sweet beacon
blazing spirit blessing too weak
tulip kettle
and YES this paradise
mossy oyster
i hate looking at obscurus seeing how fucking big and flat the blade is
but I know its a 1 hander
tulip kettle
make the obscuras like a 2H greatsword
mossy oyster
like
upper sun
illisi legit needs a buff tho
mossy oyster
what
tulip kettle
there is a 2H force sword skin
upper sun
what does illisi even do well?
mossy oyster
make the obscuras like a 2H greatsword
2H force sword
when
oh wait they could just turn obscurus....
tulip kettle
fking add it already fatshark
mossy oyster
what does illisi even do well?
look nice
sweet beacon
what does illisi even do well?
It baits people who rarely play psyker into using the activated attack repeatedly
And I think that's funny as fuck
Keep it as is
upper sun
😠
tulip kettle
illisi does horde clear way better than the other force swords
upper sun
mods shake @sweet beacon s soda
tulip kettle
am i tripping
sweet beacon
I honestly prefer Deimos for horde clear still
mossy oyster
me spamming activated attack cause I have bloodthirsty and low peril resistance so I can get max stack of creeping flames
sweet beacon
Not saying it's got better cleave that illisi, but when you add flak bruisers into the mix id rather have deimos
upper sun
Not saying it's got better cleave that illisi, but when you add flak bruisers in...
it has better damage fall off
tulip kettle
not me doing the titanfall roleplay with deflector shriek and KD on an illisi...
and idk, my illisi 1 hits flak bruiser no problem
like, i dont use illisi too much these days, but i dont think theres a better horde clear melee for psyker is there?
mossy oyster
DS4 with uncanny
upper sun
dclaw
mossy oyster
tulip kettle
bearing in mind i know fuck all about the new mauls
sweet beacon
Yeah dclaw
tulip kettle
cat4 with shred on some builds is okay
upper sun
the first time i tried rampage sweep dclaw man
sweet beacon
dclaw7*
tulip kettle
EW
upper sun
amazing hoard clear experience
tulip kettle
4 or nothing
sweet beacon
I'm gonna spit on your face
tulip kettle
im actually so confused to hear someone mention a non mk 4 devils claw
upper sun
I'm gonna spit on your face
😮
tulip kettle
like, the move set on the others is objectively, strictly worse, right?
tulip kettle
I'm gonna spit on your face
get it in my mouth plz
sweet beacon
Granted ideally you're spamming parry but sometimes heavy is enough
sweet beacon
you cant access ther heavy
tulip kettle
Mk4 has overhead H1 horizontal H2
mk 7 its reversed
so you sweep on the first heavy and single target the second
which is bad, obviously
near wyvern
Why are we debating on devil's claw
sweet beacon
you're bad
near wyvern
It was good for one patch many patches ago
sweet beacon
it's a good weapon idk what you're talking about
upper sun
Why are we debating on devil's claw
illisi clear bad
near wyvern
What is happening here
upper sun
we started talking about dclaw because it has better clear
its my fault i was bitching about illisi second target damage
sweet beacon
it's annoying to deal with crushers bc you need to time the parry super well
but its doable
near wyvern
Dclaw maniac and flak damage is so Garbo tier
tulip kettle
agreed
tulip kettle
yup, that.
near wyvern
I do it all the time with knife
upper sun
geee not everyone has ,1ms reaction times
mossy oyster
especially a burgle buffed rager
upper sun
unironically the rager buff sucked
sweet beacon
meleeing ragers after the patch
you can do that with any weapon
near wyvern
thats what my columnus is for
Hold on to your hoses. Brrrrt.
mossy oyster
oh 5 ragers burgle blessing?
upper sun
it moved it from a fun enemy tp engage with in melee to dodge backwards shoot
mossy oyster
columnus doesnt care
sweet beacon
maybe not if it's a low dodge distance weapon and there's like more than 2 ragers
mossy oyster
BRRRRRRR
near wyvern
unironically the rager buff sucked
I think it's fine. Although on a other note they made flak ragers staggerable again with purge LMB
sweet beacon
it moved it from a fun enemy tp engage with in melee to dodge backwards shoot
what melee do you usually use
tulip kettle
if im bringing a dclaw on psyker, its going to be a MK4, its going to have shred, and its explicitly for blending trash hordes and the occasional extra. Its not a dedicated elite/special weapon and its dumb to use it like one imo
near wyvern
I think this was because of the close damage range increase
upper sun
what melee do you usually use
on psyker?
sweet beacon
yes
upper sun
deimos purge 90% of the time
sweet beacon
Deimos can oneshot ragers
upper sun
i just push them away then brain burst tem
sweet beacon
And you have enough dodge distance to dodge their hits
tulip kettle
i thought nurgles blessing made the ragers unstaggerable except for VoC and ogryn abilities
sweet beacon
If more than one rager you dodge slide
tulip kettle
thats my experience
near wyvern
Purge is kind of the most balanced of all the staves if you ask me.
upper sun
id rather purge lmb
mossy oyster
iirc nurgle blessing makes them to immune to staggers except extreme stagger
which is yes ogryn bullrush and VoC(?)
sweet beacon
Purge is stupid broken
Surge is the most balanced, and even then it stuns multiple elites
upper sun
i wanna do a full gamge with run n gun purge where i just follow a zealot around and stagger everything
tulip kettle
its hardcoded to stagger on vet VoC, bullrush, get behind me
and thats it as far as im aware
its not based on a stagger amount
they cannot be staggered with trauma at all
sweet beacon
Can they be staggered by bumping them with zealot charge? Never tested it
tulip kettle
nope
near wyvern
Purge is stupid broken
Why is it broken? Requires closer range and can't damage carapace, you have to choose between RMB good damage or LMG spam good control (ragers and maulers). Deals somewhat ok'ish monstrosity damage but only if you top it off with creeping flames.
sweet beacon
yes
tulip kettle
they are still easily staggerable though
sweet beacon
Why is it broken? Requires closer range and can't damage carapace, you have to c...
Combined with psyker soulblaze talents you kill 3 elites and you've killed the entire mixed horde
tulip kettle
they dont get immunity
sweet beacon
Legit 0 effort
tulip kettle
just nurgles bless gives immunity
mossy oyster
do maulers get stagger resist while charging an overhead?
ive staggered overheading maulers with chastise before
sweet beacon
And m1 has absurd stagger it shouldn't have
tired estuary
as opposed to all the high effort psyker options that delete everything on screen
upper sun
ive staggered overheading maulers with chastise before
hmm maybe i was just too slow
i know melee push does stagger them
tulip kettle
chastise also gives iframes
sweet beacon
as opposed to all the high effort psyker options that delete everything on scree...
He's arguing it's the most balanced staff though
sweet beacon
In what world is Surge better than Purge??
tulip kettle
because it allows you to do too many things with one weapon.
sniper 50m away? LMB it. crusher wave coming? RMB spam
sweet beacon
You do everything but kill carapace with purge m2
sweet beacon
Without even considering creeping flames which increases soulblaze dmg exponentially
broken carbon
chastise also gives iframes
i’m pretty sure it gives u slide property
tulip kettle
creeping pushes your max range to 30m
broken carbon
unless they changed it
sweet beacon
if a thing is 20m away from you
It's almost like you build a loadout instead of bringing only one weapon
tulip kettle
you cant take dmg during chastise
broken carbon
hrmrmrmm
sweet beacon
Purge dealing no carapace damage doesn't matter because psyker gets the most absurd anti carapace weapons
broken carbon
i remeber a while ago i got shot by a sniper n it dealt damage
tulip kettle
not any more
broken carbon
i might be insane tho
tulip kettle
either the chastise ended or it was before
broken carbon
Purge dealing no carapace damage doesn't matter because psyker gets the most abs...
purge is decent, wouldn’t say OP though
mossy oyster
chastise is like super short if you just press F in open space
so chastise probably ended
tulip kettle
are you being obtuse intentionally?
mossy oyster
and u got shot
broken carbon
chastise is like super short if you just press F in open space
noh i was charging da sniper
it was d ur ing the charge
tulip kettle
pygex said its the most balanced
mossy oyster
oh then rip
broken carbon
it was a long time ago
tulip kettle
i explained why
broken carbon
might’ve been before a change
mossy oyster
prob
tulip kettle
aka, it has downsides that require you to bring other weapons
and your response was "well bring another weapon"
sweet beacon
If only I had a melee and blitz slots!
tulip kettle
thats the point.
broken carbon
are you being obtuse intentionally?
family guy reference
sweet beacon
Shame purge occupies all those slots!
near wyvern
Combined with psyker soulblaze talents you kill 3 elites and you've killed the e...
You can do that with other weapons as well. All you need is creeping flames and perilous combustion. Although creeping flames is enough on its own to delete all trash.
broken carbon
alternatively house md reference
sweet beacon
Soulblaze doesn't have linear scaling though
broken carbon
You can do that with other weapons as well. All you need is creeping flames and ...
wildfire is like completely useless even on purg builds right
(this is unrelated)
sweet beacon
It's decent in very big hordes
tulip kettle
idk i have always been in the "wildfire bad camp
sweet beacon
But decent at best
tulip kettle
but recently with blaze trauma i understand its value.
its not killing anything
its doing 10 dmg to random trash mobs
broken carbon
yummers
tulip kettle
that adds up to considerable dmg over the game
mossy oyster
yuckers
sweet beacon
broken carbon
https://tenor.com/view/homelander-yummers-yuckers-the-boys-gif-17433992632826193...
u like vocaloids
noobler
tulip kettle
but yes, all the other staffs deal with problems at all ranges and can be built to deal with all enemy types and ADMs. purgatus does not benefit from these things, and requires you to consider them elsewhere in your build. making it the most balanced. also the worst, imo.
mossy oyster
broken carbon
if u insist….
sweet beacon
but yes, all the other staffs deal with problems at all ranges and can be built ...
now i'm curious
what do you think of the columnus
tulip kettle
is very good.
sweet beacon
overpowered
b-but it doesn't deal with carapace!!!!
broken carbon
deals an absurd amount of damage
broken carbon
b-but it doesn't deal with carapace!!!!
lmfao
sweet beacon
you need to consider that elsewhere in your build!!
tulip kettle
lol it literally can
sweet beacon
on vet exclusively because of a broken talent
tulip kettle
but youre being dumb, again
tulip kettle
i dont like the purgatus
its my least used staff
if i want to use a flamer ill play zealot
broken carbon
purg is decent but i dont like it cuz how short the range is
i think it should get a small range boost
sweet beacon
i think it should get a small range boost
tulip kettle
it has a clear downside - short range, slow dps against non massed enemies, bad carapace dmg, vision obstruction
sweet beacon
slow dps?
tulip kettle
meanwhile trauma....
sweet beacon
scrier's gaze?
tulip kettle
against non massed enemies, yes
sweet beacon
i mean sure if you compare it to trauma
tulip kettle
if i walk in a room
sweet beacon
and yeah i hope they nerf purge vfx
tulip kettle
and there are 7 shooters spread about that room
sweet beacon
so i don't have to use a mod for that
sweet beacon
nonono you can't have other weapons in your loadout
you're playing psyker
staff only 😠
broken carbon
i should make a purg assail ds4 build i think
tulip kettle
are you actually braindamagefd
ebon smelt
staff only 😠
But what is a knife if not a sharp and tiny staff?
sweet beacon
NOOO
mental grail
i think it should get a small range boost
Purge should get a range & cloud thickness buff, and a slight buff to flak/carapace damage.
mossy oyster
hmm
i kinda wanna stick this in people's eyeballs
on scriers
but im already using this
and i dont wanna give up my crackhead 1000 movement speed with the knife
life is so hard
sweet beacon
ds4 is the closest thing to it tbh
ds5 has better movement but the damage is comparatively sad
mossy oyster
im just imagining how fucking strong a ds4 heavy attack would be
while I have scriers up
while running uncanny/precog
funny tooth pick
sweet beacon
it gets very silly
mossy oyster
i bet
sweet beacon
i usually do more boss dmg with ds4/deimos than everyone else
sweet beacon
exception would maybe be a bolter
mossy oyster
also my knife can kill half hp crushers
😩
precog scriers is a helluva thing
also im thinking of going carapace instead of maniac
funny poke crushers to death
sweet beacon
precog scriers is a helluva thing
best feeling tbh
sweet beacon
also im thinking of going carapace instead of maniac
ehhhh
late sapphire
im just imagining how fucking strong a ds4 heavy attack would be
melee psyker ds4 one taps crushers p often
late sapphire
If you haven't ever ran a melee only mael as a ds4 swordker you haven't lived
mossy oyster
meh i did that but with mk3
ds4 probably woulda ran it better
but im just using gunker as knife practice
ok poking time
halcyon gust
ok poking time
Ya call that a tooth pick!?!
This is the Emperor's Blessed tooth pick!
upper sun
you can see the DH in magistarti oubliette from the boss arena
with a well primed jump you can shoot it
granite mauve
jovial narwhal
jovial juniper
Is knife Psyker just PA spam because of the low stam delay + kinetic deflection
💀
So just a remix of devil's claw
strong gulch
Pretty much. Especially if you have a +3 stam curio.
near wyvern
wildfire is like completely useless even on purg builds right
Nope. You can effectively flame two fronts with wildfire but if you always only spray one corridor then yeah it's very minor.
But outside of flame trauma, purge and flame smite, wildfire has no use
plucky flax
But outside of flame trauma, purge and flame smite, wildfire has no use
Surge wildfire creeping flames spam build hello?!
near wyvern
Ehh
thin finch
surge make fire
wildfire spread fire
Mix dem good
thin finch
there is no downside nor lomitation to wildfire making it shit
plucky flax
Veri real and based build.
thin finch
Well on another day of trying new gun, boy do I love me my deimos , turns out disrupt destiny works weirdly well in melee too
plucky flax
Ehh
439k warpfire damage with surge build. Nearly equal to raw damage from the staff itself.
thin finch
I should enable my mods again
plucky flax
It's only memes anyway. As long as you win it's cool.
restive ice
broken carbon
4 business days to shoot
young summit
Peak performance
late sapphire
Three knife zealots 😭 wish me luck siblings
arctic shard
Let me tell you I was stressing lorddd
restive ice
compress your mouth on my nuts lmao
mild bear
Let me tell you I was stressing lorddd
had an identical situation at this same spot except when i backtracked to get away from some crushers, a poxburster spawned behind me and blew me off the bridge. let me tell you, i was FUMING at the loss of such a tight clutch
restive ice
poxburster of the month
arctic shard
had an identical situation at this same spot except when i backtracked to get aw...
The poxbursters are something else while your just by yourself trying to fight everything else off I swear
hardy flower
Anyone got a 550 powered weapon?
I rolled a 379 that became a 544 with two IV blessings but locked down on one tier three perk. So it’s possible to do in theory
restive ice
Anyone got a 550 powered weapon?
observe
arctic shard
observe
I wanna say nice but the descriptions my brother in the light of the God Emperor 😭🙏🏿
restive ice
sowwy :3
strong gulch
Anyone got a 550 powered weapon?
I have a couple.
upper sun
Anyone got a 550 powered weapon?
those on zealot graia sucks tho
these on psyker
red one sucks ass
mossy oyster
Is knife Psyker just PA spam because of the low stam delay + kinetic deflection
stop making me think about it in retrospect 😭 (you actually push attack quite alot cause you dont wanna die and then you just heavy snipe heads of annoying enemies)
so yea basically
jovial juniper
Why does the knife PA have 6.5 cleave, it doesn't even have a good angle to make full use of it
💀
jovial juniper
mossy oyster
i assume you're talking about mk3 higui
jovial juniper
I mean, the mk6 is pokey, that's sort of decent
hardy flower
Surge and illisi
mossy oyster
like I want uncanny/precog to test it out
against my mk3
but riposte locked so
💩
and im not testing my luck trying to roll more godknives after what they've been giving me on soyker so far
woe
mossy oyster
in the short time I ran mk6 before they gave me a really good mk3
I enjoyed it alot
cause uncanny + heavies
I wanna run uncanny + precog so the heavies just wipe out everything
restive ice
join us
mossy oyster
no they already gave me this dogshit (and this was arguably my best knife stat wise)
jovial juniper
Gonna name my psyker Slayer and run a bleed build with assail puncture, lacerate and all of that
mossy oyster
Gonna name my psyker Slayer and run a bleed build with assail puncture, lacerate...
bleed zealot sucks, now time for bleed psyker
potent echo
Blyker 
hardy flower
“Sah, the voices in my ‘ead are all wondering when mess call is, sah”
mossy oyster
me beloved says rashuns are to be gotten, sah
hardy flower
“Punies can’t compre-cumprehen-ahh….can’ see into me big brain”
jovial juniper
Sah, funny voices, sah
mossy oyster
WARP USE SAN-SAN-SANC- GRUT IT WARP
hardy flower
“I got a man in me ‘ead who calls me stunty buddy, sah”
strong gulch
bleed zealot sucks, now time for bleed psyker
strong gulch
I haven't made one. I forgor what I tried it with.
jovial juniper
Even t3 lacerate 
ornate hamlet
Proportionally, I suppose it does
If the second target is unchanged, then a low first target means second target deals closer damage to it
It's all in the heart of cards, Yugi
strong gulch
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
I think I got like 9k bleed and the vet or ogryn got 60k.
hasty pier
WARP USE SAN-SAN-SANC- GRUT IT WARP
This is fucking peak
arctic shard
he was damned from the start
broken carbon
he was damned from the start
worst UI i think i’ve ever seen
mystic vortex
Say anyone got any advice to eek out just a bit more from this trauma staff (using soulblaze and was thinking of getting that one perk that applies it just not sure)
arctic shard
worst UI i think i’ve ever seen
whats worse is i didnt ask aye
broken carbon
what’s worse is skibidi
jovial juniper
strong gulch
Say anyone got any advice to eek out just a bit more from this trauma staff (usi...
You want charge rate and blast radius to be as high as possible. Blessing needed are nexus + blazing spirit. Perks are flak + crit chance.
I'd surrender this staff for the the T4 flurry and roll for another one. If you haven't tried fire trauma yet and want to see if you even like it before trying to build a good one, put nexus and blazing spirit on it.
BUT trauma has REALLY wide scaling. So low rolled stats vs high rolled stats make a big difference. Photos of 80 vs 53 blast radius on trauma. #psyker-class message
mystic vortex
I understand now, thank you
strong gulch
@lethal lagoon I thought of eye booger frog and nearly spit out my beverage.
upper sun
beverage smh look at mr fancy pants
strong gulch
I could go for a libation.
upper sun
you googled that didnt you?
strong gulch
No, I already know it for some reason. 🥲
upper sun
🤓
strong gulch
I did struggle with spelling tho. I spell bad
upper sun
same
my spelling is so bad in fact
i can type some words but i cant write them because i know where they are on a keyboard but not the spelling
strong gulch
Then spell check just throws its hands in the and gives up.
proper elbow
Do any damage modifiers from talents apply to warpfire dots?
upper sun
anything that says warp damage or power should apply
or overall damage
like warp rider
i have videos of this here #psyker-class message
if you use creeping flames then let peril decay naturally it wont be enough to kill the sniper
strong gulch
This. ⬆️
The one "odd" node is the +5% ranged damage. Iirc, it's only purg's DIRECT damage that gets buffed. SB DOT doesn't seem to care; or the 5% is just too smol. Though, the 7.5% elite aura does increase the DOT, but that says "damage" and not "ranged damage".
potent echo
Yuh
Iirc it doesn't affect trauma rmb either
Not sure about surge rmb because haha imagine testing that
strong gulch
Testing surge rmb is pain
potent echo
There's a high chance I'm dummy
strong gulch
Who knows until test bc it's darktide.
strong gulch
There's a high chance I'm dummy
The +5% ranged node is not making a difference for me on trauma RMB, but it does affect the LMB.
mellow dock
what staff pairs well with asail?
arctic shard
what staff pairs well with asail?
recon vlld staff is op
stuck sinew
strong gulch
Void, trauma, and even purg
My number 1 staff pairing with assail is void tho.
mellow dock
ty
mossy oyster
what staff pairs well with asail?
columnus MK V infantry staff
realistically with assail I only really run void/DD
such a dumb set up
assail can crit/ void can crit (plus if you have surge the damage is absolutely stupid)/ DD just boosts crit and weakspots so even better
wind spruce
Holy shit, 100k burn damage from the vld
I was not expecting it to go off that hard
wind spruce
Why unyielding?
mental grail
real
mossy oyster
fuck reaper
wind spruce
You play those icky maelstroms
I'll usually take whatever's on offer, even the shit ones
mossy oyster
fuck crushers
wind spruce
Unless I'm testing weapons I really suck with
mossy oyster
also I wanna use it to blast bosses
wind spruce
Or doing this stupid fucking event
mental grail
for chip damage?
mossy oyster
never felt like my void was doing chip dmg to a boss
flint aspen
named my voidstrike as this
mossy oyster
probably cause I can actually aim for a weakpoint
wind spruce
for chip damage?
To kill them ten years later
wind spruce
probably cause I can actually aim for a weakpoint
Fighting words
halcyon gust
I miss the days where Void strike weak point hits can just stun lock bosses
mental grail
probably cause I can actually aim for a weakpoint
a soyker that can aim, praise be
mossy oyster
Fighting words
hey that reddit guy said voidstrike is hard
mental grail
lord knows I can't
wind spruce
hey that reddit guy said voidstrike is hard
ULTIMATE SKILL TEST
flint aspen
screams of the marv is still my favorite staff rename
mossy oyster
barring ogryns and bosses
wind spruce
Tbf hitting boss weak points is pretty legit
mossy oyster
so hard
mossy oyster
Tbf hitting boss weak points is pretty legit
me when I surge proc'd a plague ogryn in the head
for like his last quarter of HP
latent mauve
Tbf hitting boss weak points is pretty legit
Just being a dclaw or a ds4
wind spruce
You mean 1/4 of a percent
mental grail
hey that reddit guy said voidstrike is hard
he actually tagged me an hour later in a separate thread to bitch about how voidstrike still "requires the most skill of any weapon in the whole game "
flint aspen
lol
mossy oyster
he actually tagged me an hour later in a separate thread to bitch about how void...
if we sent him a gif of every psyker primary
halcyon gust
Just aim orb at general direction of enemy
latent mauve
https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-gif-949319236308169219
The manga is ending in a few weeks
flint aspen
voidstrike doesn't require that much skill
latent mauve
voidstrike doesn't require that much skill
It doesn’t require any skill
mossy oyster
i think its 4 now after the recent one
latent mauve
I think 5
wind spruce
voidstrike doesn't require that much skill
It's actually the hardest weapon in game to use
mossy oyster
black clover next but mr tabata is taking his time with that one
flint aspen
wind spruce
ACKSHULLY
mossy oyster
he actually tagged me an hour later in a separate thread to bitch about how void...
if we sent him a gif of soyker using every primary gun + staves in the psykhanium, he'd have an aneurysm
wind spruce
Soykers
I just discovered that there's a speaker icon when people talk on voice chat
💀
mossy oyster
calling void remotely difficult in any form or fashion
is insane
but its reddit so
wind spruce
Only took 3,000 hours of play to notice
mossy oyster
Only took 3,000 hours of play to notice
people rarely talk anyway
flint aspen
thanks fs
mossy oyster
yeah might just be a breaking the ice type of thing
mental grail
calling void remotely difficult in any form or fashion
He was arguing that all hitscan weapons are inherently no skill because void has travel time and is harder to aim.
mossy oyster
I aint gonna be the one to do it tho i just wanna game and hear people say funny shit
flint aspen
He was arguing that all hitscan weapons are inherently no skill because void has...
lol
lmao
even
mossy oyster
He was arguing that all hitscan weapons are inherently no skill because void has...
yea I know, if I had a reddit account the first thing i'd reply with
is "baby's first projectile weapon"
lmfao
flint aspen
I'd like to see him use a helbore
mossy oyster
bro would shit himself if he saw tf2/quake rockets
or if people sent him the voidstrike surge clips from this discord
of people just annihilating 30 ragers at once or maulers
flint aspen
bro would shit himself if he saw tf2/quake rockets
he would shit himself seeing star wars battlefront original blaster shots
mental grail
I brought up how literally every other weapon actually has recoil and thus requires more skill, and he started sperging at me.
flint aspen
or stalker's gunplay
quaint elk
thanks fs
So it's not just me
I got the autopistol blessings on a trauma force staff with descriptions like this
It's kind of cool being able to shoot the staff while sprinting
halcyon gust
Thanks for not bricking it
flint aspen
guhhhh you have level 4 warp nexus
I have this revolver
but my gun psyker instead uses a kantrael lasgun
mossy oyster
id swap reload for something
flint aspen
yeah I'm thinking either maniac or unyielding
or carapace i dunno
I hardly ever use revolvers on psykers
flint aspen
on a scale of 1 to 10, you think the rate of psykers going overperil and explode themselves would substantially increase if the vanilla peril gauge looks like this instead
quaint elk
It would be better if it doesn't smooth the percentage so much
You can mod it to instantly represent your peril rather than roughly rounding it, that's how I figured out when to quell
A bar would be nice though
I just worry it would be an extra distraction and load up the UI maybe
flint aspen
perilgauge is the new trueperil
tho I used hudtweaker to make perilgauge's UI look closer to the stamina UI
quaint elk
I guess I have to do a comprehensive mod refresh since the last update 
quaint elk
I have it on this
This would be cool as an actual feature TBH, let us use more blessings on different weapons
mossy oyster
perilgauge is the new trueperil
I know
but I dont like it
so I downloaded old trueperil
wind spruce
BRUH. VLD MELTS SO HARD.
flint aspen
did you have infernus with it
wind spruce
I just killed like 20 spread out dreg gunners by lightly spraying each one with scriers up and they just die to burn
And they were spread over a good 15-30m away
quaint elk
What's VLD
mossy oyster
thats the funny one that just goes BRRRR
right sibling
ive always wanted to try those on a gunker
but big E had a nice columnus in the cards for me
quaint elk
Do you use it on psyker?
quaint elk
I have always been a bit curious about gun psyker
mossy oyster
Do you use it on psyker?
scrier's gaze / gunker
mossy oyster
I have always been a bit curious about gun psyker
I was curious
made the plunge
and now its all I wanna play as soyker
quaint elk
I felt like you just have to use the fire staff
mossy oyster
most fun
ive had as this class
easily.
it probably helps im a zealot main
so having a million finesse/weakpoint dmg modifier
on top of DD/mettle movement speed
feels natural and is too fun
wind spruce
I felt like you just have to use the fire staff
fire staff is like rookie psyker
quaint elk
When i was first levelling up the classes ages ago I went through them one by one, so Vet, Zealot, Psyker and then Ogryn
I kind of miss how good it was using guns on vet
mossy oyster
using this on my gunker currently
and knives are really good on it too
(only reason im not using my knife is cause it doesnt have T4 precog)
quaint elk
I'm afraid of trying the new psyker knife thing
mossy oyster
assail?
mossy oyster
yea thats assail
wind spruce
Don't be afraid of assail
mossy oyster
hmm assail is weird
wind spruce
It's nuts
quaint elk
The class refresh had a weird effect on me
wind spruce
Just learn that you gotta duck and weave with it.
quaint elk
I was set in my ways
wind spruce
You also have to run DD
mossy oyster
ok heres my tip for assailing
you either use it on a whim
or there are dedicated spots to using it
quaint elk
I really like gun ogryn but I have no idea about other classes
mossy oyster
like a hunting grounds spawns in
simple
assail
and what I mean by using it on a whim
is you'll swap from using melee
slide or dodge backwards
assail crit the horde
then get back to meleeing
easy as 1 2
wind spruce
like a hunting grounds spawns in
And like anything there's a bunch of bruises, shooters and gunners/shotgunners in front of u
mossy oyster
And like anything there's a bunch of bruises, shooters and gunners/shotgunners i...
yup yup
mixed horde?
assail the rest of the chaff/trash
DS4 the armored
simple and clean
or brute force it with a million columnus bullets/crits
wind spruce
slide or dodge backwards
Homie you just weapon swap LMB LMB swap back while mid horde
mossy oyster
like me
mossy oyster
Homie you just weapon swap LMB LMB swap back while mid horde <:whatthefuck_heres...
id rather not throw it in peoples faces
wind spruce
But that's not newby assail strats
mossy oyster
(even though) ive done it before
well im not telling the person wanting to try it out to do that
only when they're comfortable enough
wind spruce
Yeah fair
mossy oyster
but I know exactly what situation you speak of irosk
it happens alot
and assail is so goated in those spots
me popping scrier's assail and not going over 60% peril cause battle meditation
insane feeling
wind spruce
but I know exactly what situation you speak of irosk
Eventually you reach transcendance
mossy oyster
accurate
flowing is pretty nice in darktide
but flowing while you're playing soyker?
the team just watching you decimate everything
halcyon gust
Okay. Love my new Void strike. Much better than my old one
wind spruce
Okay. Love my new Void strike. Much better than my old one
Surge and flurry?
wind spruce
Nah it's not remotely just overkill damage
That's ridiculously stupid
List of elites void can oneshot: literally just gunners/shotgunners
And if you're mowing down a horde or a couple of shooters just split your regular shot and your surge proc like a non-scrub
quaint elk
What's your favourite psyker build with purgatus flame staff?
wind spruce
Alt-f4
quaint elk
I find myself left clicking more than I actually charge up the flame, because it staggers everything
wind spruce
I don't play purg, I just don't jam with it, but a lot of people run it with EP brain burst or you can pair it with warp charges for extra flamey goodness
quaint elk
Maybe I should try out assail
wind spruce
I find myself left clicking more than I actually charge up the flame, because it...
Yeah that's a good way to use it
Definitely try assail
quaint elk
The stagger pierces too, unlike trauma force where it's a small area
wind spruce
Congrats, you now have the best Psyker build, fullstop.
halcyon gust
Depends on matter of taste and play style
quaint elk
Do you miss brainburst? I suppose now the other classes have a ranged elite nuking option there is less need for it
wind spruce
Depends on matter of taste and play style
What you should play depends on your taste and play style, but the optimal choices are solved.
wind spruce
Do you miss brainburst? I suppose now the other classes have a ranged elite nuki...
I never miss it. If you're running purg it's a great choice though, because you lack long range high priority target kill potential
And purg and a duelling sword or deimos takes care of everything up close
quaint elk
Thing is you have vets or ogryn gunluggers now
I fucking love deimos
If there is a way to make it pierce more and kill enemies behind the enemies let me know
wind spruce
Have you messed with duelling sword mk 4 much since the rework?
wind spruce
If there is a way to make it pierce more and kill enemies behind the enemies let...
Unfortunately not
quaint elk
Nah
wind spruce
Try it out.
quaint elk
Is it any good on veteran
wind spruce
It would be the best melee weapon on vet if it was available
dapper raft
Do ranged damage boosts apply to Assail
quaint elk
Decent stats?
dapper raft
Keep rolling
quaint elk
Maybe higher damage
dapper raft
Damage pen and finesse are the stats you want
quaint elk
Ah
strong gulch
It's still a very mobile weapon with mobility dumped.
wind spruce
Do ranged damage boosts apply to Assail
Yes, the only thing the 5% ranged damage mode (the only ranged exclusive psyker talent) doesn't apply to is damage over time effects like soulblaze and trauma right click
wind spruce
Pretty close?
It's fine to start off with
wind spruce
17% pen only translates to like 5% damage
And that's only vs carapace and flak
And even less relevant with uncanny strike
quaint elk
This maybe?
wind spruce
Nah take the higher mobility
quaint elk
Really?
wind spruce
Yeah
quaint elk
Does the extra dash help
wind spruce
Absolutely
strong gulch
Provided blessings roll well, that is a decent base. You can always try to roll a better one later. Also, crafting update is coming.
wind spruce
And the extra run speed
quaint elk
I was really surprised the regular stab from deimos out-damages the charged one
You just light heavy light heavy
wind spruce
Yep
strong gulch
Ye. Sub 50 mobility on DS and you're missing out
wind spruce
Hardly ever need to use the special on deimos
strong gulch
Actively detrimental to use the special a lot of the time.
quaint elk
Psyker went from my squishiest class to the most deadly up close that day
strong gulch
Deimos special does have multiple hits tho. So you could build quick stacks for a blessing by doing the special.
Oh! We can dodge out of the special animation now. You don't get the full damaage, but it's safer to use now.
quaint elk
I really like demos for killing everything directly in front of me
You have to move around a bit to kill other things but it's really powerful
halcyon gust
Oh! We can dodge out of the special animation now. You don't get the full damaag...
Yep. Same thing as the chain swords if you use their special hit
idle plover
Im trying to get mg la lasgun on my scriers gaze build but should i get infernus on it or something else
strong gulch
Yep. Same thing as the chain swords if you use their special hit
yip
halcyon gust
I might consider using the Deimos over the illisi on my Purge build
quaint elk
Really love the deimos
halcyon gust
Adding that to the list of weapons to make when the crafting Rework goes live
quaint elk
You can keep light slashing in front of you and it's kind of like the illisi
Just a smaller area
halcyon gust
I use the illisi as my main anti-horde weapon because of the wide sweeps it can do
quaint elk
So yeah, deimos isn't as good at that, but it can do hordes
And the sheer damage when you light-heavy stab is insane
halcyon gust
And the charge swing is a single swipe can deal with most threats well like a rager in your face
strong gulch
Im trying to get mg la lasgun on my scriers gaze build but should i get infernus...
There is a guide in the pins called the Atheneum.
As far as I know, the infantry lasguns aren't great on psyker. That being said, use what you desire.
quaint elk
Deimos can horde clear on its own, but it is harder
It's helped by the headshot damage
I really like the mk 12 lasgun I wish I could take it on psyker
halcyon gust
I main the void strike so illisi pairs really well with it
strong gulch
I might consider using the Deimos over the illisi on my Purge build
If you're running purg, a single target melee weapon would be a better balance.
wind spruce
Im trying to get mg la lasgun on my scriers gaze build but should i get infernus...
you're better off using the recon las guns
wind spruce
I really like the mk 12 lasgun I wish I could take it on psyker
You can take it?
quaint elk
Yeah but I wish I could make it really work well
It's so much effort to gun psyker, usually
halcyon gust
If you're running purg, a single target melee weapon would be a better balance.
True. Could use the MK 4 Dueling sword
wind spruce
Yeah but I wish I could make it really work well
Yeah you're better off running recon las guns, IAGs or a las pistol
Gun Psyker is really strong with those
Like... really REALLY strong.
quaint elk
Ok so you have to kind of look down with the duelling sword
strong gulch
True. Could use the MK 4 Dueling sword
Yip yip. DS4, deimos, knife, and even DS2 are great options.
quaint elk
Not seeing how it's better than the deimos
strong gulch
Deimos is more fiddly to use and doesn't have as much mobility. The DS4 is just chaining heavies.
Both are very good either way.
halcyon gust
Part of me wishes this blackout event just ends
near gale
Wait... force swords have uncanny strike?
near gale
Part of me wishes this blackout event just ends
That would be nice, but, at least the one reward gave 4.5k plasteel for us people who are broke <.<
near gale
Kinda meh idea, the event rewards were the best part
It's a lights out with a special boss that can spawn at any time pretty much...
halcyon gust
Because there is always a 1/3 chance you're dump into darkness and if you don't account that for the build you're bringing
Times I forgot to switch from voidstrike to Purge for quick play
wind spruce
Ok so you have to kind of look down with the duelling sword
With the lights you actually want to look slightly upwards to more consistently hit heads
quaint elk
Having tried it, I really prefer deimos
wind spruce
Not seeing how it's better than the deimos
One word: mobility. It's the same if not better damage and wayyyy more mobile
quaint elk
Feel like I carve through the hordes with deimos though
wind spruce
You can also reach through hordes to hit elites with the duelling sword in a way deimos can't really manage
quaint elk
It's so effortless with deimos
wind spruce
You're used to the deimos
I find DS more effortless than deimos just from the difference in hours I've put in
wind spruce
What you have is less damage, game-changeingly inferior mobility, a tiny bit better horde management and a better push
quaint elk
More damage
near gale
the dueling sword mk 4 is great, it requires some finesse to use well tho
quaint elk
It's doing less damage
wind spruce
More damage
Less damage
quaint elk
My deimos is deadlier than my duelling sword 4
wind spruce
Nahhh
near gale
I miss the deimos, tbh, it was easier to light spam hordes with it
wind spruce
DS has more consistent damage because its h1 and h2 are the same
quaint elk
Exactly
quaint elk
No you just light heavy to keep stabbing
wind spruce
They are single target weapons
near gale
Where as deimos has to weave in the shitty l3
I remember for hordes I just light spammed and it worked for me
that was a while ago tho
wind spruce
Unless you're running surge or a gun and you dont have assail you don't need your melee for horde management
near gale
I didn't know the force sword had uncanny strike, tho
wind spruce
The critical points of darktide really aren't when you're mashing lights into a horde
near gale
the deimos isn't really being taken for horde management, though...
That would be the illisi
wind spruce
That's my point...
wind spruce
A nice, tiny, largely irrelevant bonus
For which you give up better single target damage, and the real kicker, vastly superior mobility
near gale
I am a zealot main, I usually use my melee for hordes
I am not good with the trauma, voidstrike, or purgatus staves tho
wind spruce
Takes some practice
halcyon gust
I am a zealot main, I usually use my melee for hordes
illisi would serve you well for that if you want to have a Melee horde clear option
near gale
I am just not a fan of the voidstrike, and the trauma is cool and all... but I am meh on it, and the purgatus is like the flamer... cool...
quaint elk
My deimos is a lot more effective than this duelling sword, sorry to say
wind spruce
I am just not a fan of the voidstrike, and the trauma is cool and all... but I a...
They're all massively powerful weapons.
mental grail
deimos looks rad
wind spruce
Like, game breakingly powerful
mental grail
that why I picked it
halcyon gust
I am just not a fan of the voidstrike, and the trauma is cool and all... but I a...
If you're low level on psyker. Trauma feels like total shit
near gale
I want the deimos for certain enemies, though. The horde management/clear is a bonus that makes me feel more comfortable
mental grail
ds4 is pretty cracked but I want a wizard sword
or at least a funny taser mace that goes 'bonk'
near gale
If you're low level on psyker. Trauma feels like total shit
my psyker has been level 30 for a while, I just am meh on the staves unlike the ones I had in vt2 which I liked
wind spruce
ds4 is pretty cracked but I want a wizard sword
Literally the only reasonable justification for deimos over DS
And it's a very good justification
patent wing
better horde clear
near gale
Literally the only reasonable justification for deimos over DS
It also used to have bonus dodge distance and infinite dodges
quaint elk
I need a good bonk, most it my melee comes down to slashing through the horde
wind spruce
It also used to have bonus dodge distance and infinite dodges
I don't believe the dodge distance has changed since release, but I could be wrong
mental grail
ds4 is like objectively better but deimos has better drip and what more important than leaving a sick ass corpse when you throw one extra assail shard and explode
quaint elk
I love bullying crushers as ogryn
patent wing
deimos > ds4
near gale
I don't believe the dodge distance has changed since release, but I could be wro...
It hasn't, the dodge amounts have been limited though
patent wing
ds4 is not obj better unless u value the mobility
quaint elk
The punch special move on the ogryn knife is crazy
wind spruce
ds4 is not obj better unless u value the mobility
Yeah, if you take away the thing that makes it God like, it's no longer God like
Who'd've thought
near gale
I'm more keen on my melee doing more for me more comfortably than I am on my melee having more mobility
patent wing
the dodge distance advantage is how many meters?
mental grail
I love bullying crushers as ogryn
I love you for doing it because I mistime the overhead and get splattered bc of poor netcode (my go-to excuse)
quaint elk
In this game I feel I do more ranged than melee, but I still want my melee to be really reliable and carve through hordes
mental grail
wind spruce
Superior dodge distance, running speed, and the biggest thing, huge acceleration through light attack-slides
wind spruce
whats the last thing
When you light attack or heavy attack on the duelling sword it lunges forward, if you slide during that you retain the speed
quaint elk
I love you for doing it because I mistime the overhead and get splattered bc of ...
I just keep slapping them and they can't do anything until my teammates kill them, or as gun ogryn I shoot them myself
near gale
dodge distance on the mk 4 dueling sword is -0.00% to +10.00%, on the deimos it is -2.5% to +12.5%
wind spruce
It let's you accelerate from stock still to the highest speed in the game in a split second
quaint elk
What's the ideal threshold for burn on a purgatus staff?
near gale
As well as having slaughterer
near gale
What's the ideal threshold for burn on a purgatus staff?
It probably is the same as the flamer, but, I don't know that for sure
iirc that is 76% or w/e
near gale
I honestly don't remember the force swords having uncanny strike, though...
I threw this together on the fly for some convenience compared to my mk 4 dueling sword. :/
patent wing
the sprint speed is the big difference
i never need to sprint mid fight idk what you guys are playing racing simulator?
near gale
i never need to sprint mid fight idk what you guys are playing racing simulator?
I was stating the big difference I saw, I am on the deimos side.
patent wing
idk the sprint speed never appeared to be much higher for me, and never noticed acceleration at all
wind spruce
i never need to sprint mid fight idk what you guys are playing racing simulator?
You don't sprint and slide around to stab specials and reposition?
wind spruce
idk the sprint speed never appeared to be much higher for me, and never noticed ...
Are you using the move techs I described?