psyker-class

[cosmic sigil]

Infernus / ciqg scryer goes hard tho

[near wyvern]

Doesn't beat columnus

Columnus in the right hands is 6+k DPS on a monstrosity with gaze + finesse upgrade

[potent echo]

gaming

[terse saffron]

is this 🧱 ed?

[grizzled sierra]

I mean
Pb and unyielding doesnt seem entirely useless

[upper sun]

id swap out groaners for maniac

other mod idk

[wind spruce]

Nah not really. Change both perks. You need maniac. Other perk is a toss up between flak and unarmoured. Unarmoured gives you a one shot head shot on dreg gunners and that's it. Flak gives you a shotgunner breakpoint (can't remember exactly what it is tbh). Point blank isn't great but it'll do. Puncture is the only important blessing tbh

And for the love of God, run DD with it.

[upper sun]

I think flak gives you gunner not shotgunner

dont gunners have more health than shotgunners?

[wind spruce]

You can hit the regular gunner one shot headshot without flak

[upper sun]

with warp charges?

[wind spruce]

So it must be the shotgunner oneshot bodyshot I'm thinking of

[upper sun]

or DD

[wind spruce]

Either or

[upper sun]

ah okie

i thought we were doing no buffs

i swear that gun needs like 20 extra weakspot damage

[wind spruce]

It's pretty bad with no buffs

[upper sun]

tbh

brainburst also needs 20 extra damage

[wind spruce]

Max DD plus the bleed sorts out most of those close calls

[ornate hamlet]

i need a good buble psyker build asap

[upper sun]

u in game?

[ornate hamlet]

no

not yet

[upper sun]

what staff?

and what melee?

[ornate hamlet]

surge

thanks

[wind spruce]

Best bubble build.

[upper sun]

bruh

[wind spruce]

[terse saffron]

best bubble build is no bubble

based

[wind spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/this-guy-fucks-this-guy-fucks-close-up-gif-4597923731622779412

[upper sun]

one free point

[woeful shale]

bro youre insane#

[upper sun]

i recommend using illisi or a good clear weapon with it

[woeful shale]

i appricate youre effort to explain

[ornate hamlet]

YOU SCAMMER

[ornate hamlet]

thanks

[ornate hamlet]

living in a lie

[wind spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/joanne-the-scammer-joanne-scammers-scams-gif-22162205

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-scared-hands-shaking-shivering-gif-18714091

[wind spruce]

Id probably want to swap out smite when not running EP or vent. Picking up assail might help as a multi target (and long range) tool

[upper sun]

muh cdr tho

[wind spruce]

How much more do u really need with 20s cooldown shields?

But also, fair

[latent mauve]

@lethal lagoon

Quad smite melee only

[upper sun]

shame

[haughty star]

No kinetic deflection means no free point

That point belongs to KD good sir

[upper sun]

lowkey i forgot

but im just gonna pretend i didnt

nah you dont need it if you have bubble

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/simon-cowell-laser-eyes-gif-10617238

[eager token]

either kinetic deflection or ignore ranged on crit

bubble is poop tho you’d have 3 free points without that

[potent echo]

I won't say bubble is poop

[eager token]

i stan shriek over here im sorry

[mossy oyster]

surge or purg while im running smite w/ PC

i like purg but im running smite and a deimos so my range is literally arm's length

[upper sun]

purge with smite is not great

[mossy oyster]

continuing to be a shotgun psyker it is

[upper sun]

with purge you need either assail or BB most likely

[mossy oyster]

yeah its that smitefire build i showed the other day

its not bad but I know if my team doesnt kill ranged its gonna be ugly eventually

which sux cause im general electric i should b zapping people but smite is just so eh

ill see if i have a good surge staff somewhere

so is surge an EP DD or a WC oriented weapon

sadly i havent touched surge since it was bugged with EP smite

just made this one up

[potent echo]

BB and crit aura is kinda cursed

[mossy oyster]

oh yea true i was just focused on surge staff

unlike assail which can actually crit

lemme swap

but I dont really see value in mind in motion

or MM cause im running deimos (unless it counts on normal deimos kills)

ignore the double bottom skill tree

thought i posted the weapons

but also forgot im running bubble with this setup i just made so free CDR is nice

[near wyvern]

Drop these 2 and get puppet master instead

The toughness gen is only 25% for a full bar gen and it doesn't count overflow peril (i.e. if you use a 10% peril cost skill at 99% you gen only 1% peril so 0.25% toughness).

You and your team will benefit a lot more from puppet master which enables easier coherency chaining to share auras and boost toughness gen

[mossy oyster]

any other tweaks you recommend?

also ty

[upper sun]

what about the weakspot DD note?@near wyvern

is it reallly worth it? it doesnt give me anything when im at max stacks

[mossy oyster]

theres the full glory

[near wyvern]

Yeah DD doesn't make that much sense here since BB cannot crit and Surge cannot hit weakpots. I would swap BR into smite and use void staff instead with this build

[mossy oyster]

i was askin earlier what surge wanted for a keystone

but no one was around

[near wyvern]

If you want to use Surge staff I would go either into EP for boosting the BB or warp siphon to boost the siege staff

[mossy oyster]

I forgot DD only proc's on LMB type attacks

thats why it works with void

so WC?

[upper sun]

its a bit more expensive than DD

might wanna try the surge standard build pinned

[near wyvern]

Ehh what? Disrupt destiny boosts your crit & weakspot damage so it applies on any attack that can crit or hit a weak spot. However, due to how weakspot damage and crit damage is calculated, DD only really works for weapons that deal a lot of weakspot / crit damage compared to their base damage.

[mossy oyster]

i meant true aim

i know what dd does lmfao

that was on me

[near wyvern]

Yeah true aim works for both LMB and RMB for void, for surge only LMB

[mossy oyster]

yeah thats what i was remembering

lemme look at this pinned surge build

[near wyvern]

Yeah this is better for surge, I would make some changes to pick up Kinetic Deflection tho, it's such a clutch talent and easy to access

[mossy oyster]

yeah I just started testing out the waters with KD

im not used to blocking (used to shoving/dodging)

so i gotta switch my mindset a bit

[near wyvern]

You shouldn't take in fire reborn though with the shield, the 4% chance on any kill in coherency will serve you better with the shield ult

[mossy oyster]

i saw the standard surge build and im swappin it around rn

cause i wanna use bubble

with WC's

cuz CDR

[near wyvern]

KD is the most broken shit in the game. It converts your peril into a x4 stamina bar for blocking. So one +3 stamina curio will add +12 worth of stamina for blocking with it.

And you have your regular stamina available once you hit 97% peril of course

[near wyvern]

Or then be like me and sprint and push attack with knife 6 all day long without giving a damn about your stamina as long as you have peril to use

[mossy oyster]

hows this

[broken carbon]

feels super inconsistent with void charge though

is that just a skill issue or

weird hitbox priority

[near wyvern]

Yeah I approve this

[mossy oyster]

its because the things are probably dying to the first void crit ball

so the 2nd doesnt even get a chance to hit

me thinks

[broken carbon]

no sometimes i don’t get a stack at all

it’s nothing to do with the crit ball

crit or not it feels inconsistent

[mossy oyster]

hmm weird i feel like ive gotten stacks with void

ill pay attention to when i run my void build later

[shy hull]

Is psyker better at long or melee range?

[near wyvern]

Its weird hitbox things, probably dependant on what you hit first but haven't done excessive testing on it. However it is possible to get multiple stacks at once with RMB

[broken carbon]

you can get stacks

[mossy oyster]

psyker can do it all but preferably you dont want them in your face

also psyker probably struggles the most with monstrosities(?)

[broken carbon]

but sometimes it feels like you should get 5 and get none, or you get all when u weren’t really aiming

[mossy oyster]

dont quote me on it though

[broken carbon]

yarp, psyker is really the only class without a boss nuke option, if you aren’t running gunker

[shy hull]

That's where our fellow zealots and ogryns come in to distract them while I brain burst them :]

[mossy oyster]

you mean kill steal your brain burst

[broken carbon]

yeah ik it is, it’s just

weird

[near wyvern]

If you mean better as in dealing damage, mid range.

However, we are the only class with an across the map aim hack and most broken blocking mechanic (kinetic deflection) in the game so it's not like Psykers lack on sweet things on any range.

[broken carbon]

i’ve had times with hordes where i get all 5 stacks

[mossy oyster]

yes definitely how you should be bossing if someone is aggroing the monstro

as psyker

[broken carbon]

and other times where i get none

[mossy oyster]

and you're running BB

unless you have a void staff with DD

[shy hull]

Aye, that's a big wall of text of information

Thank you sir for this

[broken carbon]

void feels too inconsistent, i usually just go into melee and pull aggro and melee when i can

i love voidstrike but i suck with it against bosses

[mossy oyster]

my void feels like im popping bubble wrap

[near wyvern]

For damage yes, for tanking it, absolutely no problem. You can even tank a demonhost if you have a duelling sword or a knife and space to move.

[mossy oyster]

yeah I was talking in terms of bossing DMG

psykers aint the top of the food chain there

[broken carbon]

kinetic deflection can’t block overheads right? i’m pretty sure it can’t just haven’t bothered trying

[shy hull]

Yea

[mossy oyster]

also ty for helping me with this surge build siblings

[near wyvern]

No it cannot block the following attacks:

• mauler overhead
• crusher overhead
• plague ogryn overhead
• plague ogryn stomp

And that's because they are coded to ignore block

[broken carbon]

ok i figured pawesome

so tanner’s video is entirely wrong on that front too

figures

[near wyvern]

Not 100% sure about the plague ogryn overhead but I usually dodge it cause I can stab the face at the same time

[broken carbon]

he was saying with block efficiency u can block a crusher overhead

[near wyvern]

Yeah no

[broken carbon]

plogryn overhead i know u can’t

i’ve tried a few times

[shy hull]

If you ever wanted to make your fellow zealots proud, equip the flame staff to roast enemies in warp fire.

They'll appreciate the smell of burning heretics in the morning

[broken carbon]

mainly out of panic

[near wyvern]

What you can do is block the bulwark shield slam

[broken carbon]

yah tanner has got to be the worst source of darktide information out there

[near wyvern]

It gives mid peril but nothing crazy

[broken carbon]

the no damage bonk?

[near wyvern]

Yup

[broken carbon]

kinetic deflection for building peril is awesome

i honestly don’t really think it’s that broken though, just because you can’t tank overheads with it

it gives you an oh shit card that most other classes already have, shout, stealth, charge, etc

[near wyvern]

Not really, too slow and have to be a sitting duck, but it's ok ish if you are running creeping flames and tanking a boss, I sometimes block instead of dodge just so I can get a full fire shout off to help the team with the trash while holding the boss

[broken carbon]

yah i meant in clutch situations or boss situations

as an attempt at building peril raw it sucks

[near wyvern]

But we have like a gazillion ways of building peril anyways

[broken carbon]

with creeping flames*

[broken carbon]

yarp

i love creeping flames

change the 200 damage mode to a short range brain burst wave

pleaseeee

it’d be so cool

[mossy oyster]

that damage node is so ass

you never take it over CF

[broken carbon]

it’s useless

[near wyvern]

Just remember kids, when in doubt, stroke it out.

~ This message was sponsored by the Illisi gang

[broken carbon]

and what if i used a ds4

then i cant stroke it

[mossy oyster]

way ahead of you there sibling

[broken carbon]

i can’t get freaky

[near wyvern]

You gotta get more pokey

[broken carbon]

troo

[mossy oyster]

jorking it for immediate 25% or more peril

[broken carbon]

ds4 is balanced

[mossy oyster]

unlimited power

[broken carbon]

totally

[near wyvern]

I think that's still too high warp resist to get to full creeping flames from 0 though in 3 strokes

[broken carbon]

killing a crusher pack in like 6 heavies is balanced

[mossy oyster]

from 0? definitely

I think I need 3-4

[broken carbon]

what’s the ideal warp resist

[mossy oyster]

probably 4

[near wyvern]

Yeah, mine is like 32% and gets there in 3

[mossy oyster]

yea i definitely get there in 4 then

[near wyvern]

And do you have peril resist from talents?

Cause without talents that works yes

But you often have to pick some on your way down

[mossy oyster]

oh yea i have 2 of them

cause this is my EP BB build

[near wyvern]

And that should make it just 4 strokes

Instead of 3

[mossy oyster]

what i got setup for EP BB

weapons could be better

[near wyvern]

Just press V or whatever and you get a list for how much peril resist you have

[mossy oyster]

i got 3

so -15%

from nodes

[broken carbon]

u could get rid of wildfire for kinetic deflection

or quietude

[mossy oyster]

oh wait its multiplicatively

for peril gen

[near wyvern]

It's still too high resist for the sword and gonna be 4 strokes

[broken carbon]

have u tried an uncanny illisi yet

[mossy oyster]

yeah my sword usually gets to the max peril buff require after 4 activations

[near wyvern]

But there are swords out there that can do it in 3 of you just get lucky with the warp resist roll, even with that build

[broken carbon]

it’s op n awesome

[near wyvern]

Not op but good yes

[mossy oyster]

deimos uncanny though?

that shit is strong

same with ds4

[near wyvern]

Anything that has uncanny should be used with uncanny

[broken carbon]

yarp

flak melts, ragers melt, you deal absurd carapace damage

i think i can 3 shot a crusher with heavies on my illisi build

[mossy oyster]

heres my other one

[near wyvern]

I like slaughter + uncanny for my illisi

[mossy oyster]

I just like to spam special activate w/ bloodthirsty

this is the one im using w/ venting shriek EP BB

[lethal lagoon]

It's beautiful...

[hearty dagger]

Anyone else having their audio die randomly?

[mossy oyster]

@near wyvern not sure if this was a by product of blue stimm but I KD'd a captain's 360 AOE attack

and only took 12% peril and virtually no knockback

https://tenor.com/view/i-get-it-omg-danny-devito-oh-my-god-gif-15873107

[near wyvern]

Captain has no unblockable attacks

[mossy oyster]

does blue stimm reduce the amount of peril gained

ik he doesnt have unblockables

[near wyvern]

It does reduce stamina use so probably yes since peril gain is 1/4 of your stamina % loss on block

That's why the one +3 stamina curio is so huge

[mossy oyster]

would you say its mandatory for running KD or just a nice buff

[ashen schooner]

nice buff

[near drift]

It's a really good talent but if you have a mobile melee like dueling sword or knife it's okay to skip as long as your dodging/sliding is on point

[ashen schooner]

even with kd you don't actually that many attacks (unless you're trying to)

[brazen warren]

it is nice for clutch revives too

[mossy oyster]

yea thats what I was thinking

especially with DD movement speed buffs

[thin knoll]

y'all know if there is a discord specifically for penance farming? I only lack malleus monstrosum for psyker and it's driving me crazy.

[fathom totem]

Go the region Vox lfg channel you are from.

There should be people willing to help or need penance themselfs.

[thin knoll]

nice, thanks

[fathom totem]

I have some time. If you still need it I'll help you out.

[thin knoll]

thank you, but i'm just about to leave. I appreciate the off though.

offer*

[fathom totem]

[hollow pine]

if you think about it Erebus was a good boy he was just killed by some crackhead

[fast frost]

God brain burst sucks so bad

I thought I’d give it a spin for old times sake

[hollow pine]

waits its taht good??

[fast frost]

Extremely long charge time to not even 1 shot most specialists is comically bad.

[mossy oyster]

what are you running with it

[latent mauve]

Very funny game

[fast frost]

Can charge and use a surge staff twice before a brainburst fires and it deals more damage

[latent mauve]

If you stack enough smite on crushers you can kill them lmao

[lethal lagoon]

I checked, it's about 1 min 30 to kill a crusher with 3 starting EP stacks and Shriek

So 4 people doing it, not that bad.

[mossy oyster]

I can only imagine 4 EP smites shooting off at once

[latent mauve]

It was hilarious

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/lightning-thunder-storm-storm-thunder-and-lightning-lightning-storm-gif-18131364

[latent mauve]

10 second killing an entire room of carapace

[mossy oyster]

helps if you have custom lightning mod

LOL

thats crazy

ok i dont know the mod for different colored lightning rip

[lethal lagoon]

What a hilarious ability smite is.

[vast olive]

[grizzled sierra]

doesnanyone here have a melee psyker

i feel like memeing around

[upper sun]

same as gunker

[jovial juniper]

I know you're being hyperbolic but this could be mistaken as misinformation

You can 1 shot any specialist short of muties

And dogs seems a little inconsistent

[halcyon gust]

Someone hasn't taken the Empower Psy Brain Rupture pill yet

[jovial juniper]

Pretty sure you can one shot dreg ragers with stacks of Warp Syphon

Apparently 5 stacks

Maybe less if you have the left aura

[lapis terrace]

Who decided to give the Illisi infinite cleave?
Because I wanna glomp that person

(good)

[brazen warren]

muties can be 1 shot by a DS4 head shot, but you need some external damage buffs (warp siphon, scryers, warp rider) iirc

not all of the buffs, but some

[mossy oyster]

read somewhere a long time ago smite upgrade talents affected surge staff?

like spreading to +1 enemies

that true or nah

[jovial juniper]

Long ago

Not anymore

[mossy oyster]

ripperino

oh that probably also explains surge being broken back then probably cause enfeeble + the EP bug

[thin knoll]

Anyone know if its worth it in dps to use special attack resets on dueling swords?

[queen fog]

i like doing it to cycle the 1st heavy melee on mine so ya i'd recommend it, might be a lil slower than block canceling but i havent tested that yet

[thin knoll]

I do the same, but idk if it's making a big difference

[haughty star]

Melee only just doesn't work if not illisi. Psyker just doesn't have the sustenance for it

[grizzled sierra]

That's why it's memeing around

You know

Being silly

[queen fog]

ill hop into the meatgrinder to test it rq, my only regret is that i cant make clips fast to show examples

[queen fog]

judging by my meatgrinding tests, about the same shockingly? or at least it feels that way

block canceling im not as good at but both show very quick recovery regardless

i'd honestly say the special attack useage is better damage wise cuz of the added stagger

[fresh reef]

an m1 staff build is really, really fun lol

[upper sun]

😠 stop having nice staves

[queen fog]

good use of BB with destined death

[fresh reef]

also discovered that Kinetic Resonance stacks with itself and with blueberry stimms as far as BB cast speed goes

quite funny

[mossy oyster]

oh hey that staff looks familiar

[queen fog]

lol ya some lad named atlas blew my mind here showing it off with the walls

machine gun levels of BB

[upper sun]

i wanna make a full meme voidstrike

with crit damage and crit chance

unironically after the surge buff void is kinda bullshit

you dont have to hover at 80 peril

every hit is a crit now

[mossy oyster]

EP BB + kinetic resonance + blue stimm

thats the real machinegun

[fresh reef]

is it really a meme if it still works?

[upper sun]

me nuking every poxwalker around the pogryn

[upper sun]

with that much crit chance you could run stamina and itll still work

[mossy oyster]

like the natives in farcry 3 used to say

"Learn to shoot."

[upper sun]

ah yes the unaimable ability

[mossy oyster]

BB?

[fresh reef]

I've been trying to get surge on trauma since I'm not really using the bowling ball much

alas, rng hates me

[upper sun]

Yes

[mossy oyster]

surge if it worked on trauma RMB

https://tenor.com/view/jackass-3d-couch-explosion-gif-25176966

[fresh reef]

brick inbound

[thin knoll]

Can the aoe on trauma even crit?

[jovial juniper]

Yes

That's why blaze Trauma exists

It doesn't proc the blessing Surge though

[fresh reef]

20k plasteel down the drain, still no surge

[thin knoll]

Oooooh ok. I haven't tried blaze trauma yet.

[fresh reef]

how can I resolve my gambling skill issue?

I suck at it

[jovial juniper]

It's only a gambling issue if you don't win

[thin knoll]

I would just horde shit until crafting rework

[magic hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-roy-mustang-gif-5094869

[fresh reef]

when, in like half a year?

[magic hazel]

Me with truama staff on the rager that downed me

[thin knoll]

True

[magic hazel]

It took me 50k

[thin knoll]

Wait did they give a rough date for crafting release?

I forget

[magic hazel]

But I got just this week finally

Kind of annoying that staves are the only weapon that don't carry over blessings between them

I have surge on VS but not TF ;-;

[queen fog]

makes sense to me considerin how varied the diff staves are besides all cept the purg staff havin the same m1 fire

you got ur pocket aoe trauma, bowling ball simulator voidstrike

socket with a metal fork in it surge

all sorts of options

[magic hazel]

God I live voidstrike

[haughty star]

I wonder how kinetic flayer would be with rlg

[magic hazel]

That sound it makes when It quarters the upper torso of heretics on impact:

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfect-emperors-new-groove-very-good-gif-5346522

[haughty star]

Rlg 6 specifically

[magic hazel]

I just wish the vs didn't have such a slow charge

[mossy oyster]

flurry solves that

[haughty star]

My favorite stave is surge

[jovial juniper]

They had to balance it somehow

[haughty star]

The others are mehh

For me

[magic hazel]

Doesn't it have infinite cleave like plasma? Or am I not crazy for thinking it stops on impact with things like crushers and monsters

[haughty star]

I have good ones,just like muh surge

[magic hazel]

I won't deny it's effectiveness but the sound bug makes me nervous

Makes me think my shits gonna crash

[haughty star]

Ohhh helldivers 2 levels of sound grossness

[magic hazel]

Yeah

[jovial juniper]

If it stops on crushers it's because carapace denies cleave

[magic hazel]

Never played it bc xbox but I think I can imagine

[magic hazel]

I see

[haughty star]

Yeah it's not the most dpsy but I find it to be the one that makes me free to move about the most

[magic hazel]

Except when it comes to plasma lol

God I love plasma

[haughty star]

Plasma is meh. I can see why it's good but it's kinda like the volver cleave

Director is shockingly good at spreading enemies out there ain't a ton of chokepoint moments in most maps imo

[magic hazel]

Making entire swathes of a horde turn to red and yellow mist down hallways is far from "meh" imo

[haughty star]

Yeah but there's just not a TON of spots like that

[magic hazel]

You can literally make chokepoints most of the time

[haughty star]

Most of the problem spots are wide open

[magic hazel]

Just kite them, it's all about positioning

Even luring them against a wall works

[haughty star]

Yeee and you could've just dropped them using anything else by the time you're done doing all that positioning lol

It's powerful when it works but it's not OP imo

[magic hazel]

Fair, it's just all about the satisfaction for me

[strong gulch]

Void doesn't have infinite cleave.

[magic hazel]

Plus the other characters recognizing my kill streak is nice

[magic hazel]

Thats what i was afraid of, tho it seems to have enough at least

[haughty star]

I've literally never used a voidstrike outside of leveling tho. I'm strictly talking plasma and volver

Psyker is over level 200 and not one hadron abortion of a voudstrike has been in his hands

[magic hazel]

Oof

If you used it pre nerf you might have a different opinion

It was instantly my fave when I first started

I'll miss oneshotting crushers

Blowing their big metal heads off was so nice

[strong gulch]

I want to like void, but I never have. It's strong, but I just don't enjoy it.

Whenever I get the itch to give it another try, my partner is like "Why? You don't like it. We go through this every time."

[magic hazel]

Also bulwarks. Shieldbearer? Shield? Where?

[magic hazel]

How I feel about the socket fork

It's dps is clearly better than the other 3, for bigger targets, but it just doesn't hit the spot if you know what I kean

[thin knoll]

I like when they pop though

[magic hazel]

Maybe if they made it reliably make enemies turn inside out like actual powerlines tend to do itd probably feel a bit better

[magic hazel]

That's what I'm saying

[strong gulch]

That's my favorite one lol.

[magic hazel]

Valid

[strong gulch]

Surge used to gib all of the time, but an update changed it to crits only.

[magic hazel]

I want it to be good for me bc I love all things sorcery

[magic hazel]

Yeah that nerf deeply upset me

It's why I don't use it as much

[strong gulch]

Surge is best for squishier elites and specials. It also have meaningful monstrosity/ boss damage.

[magic hazel]

Used to make every enemy explode

[strong gulch]

IDK if you use mods, but you can make them explode all of the time.

[magic hazel]

I think it's dps is faster but shattering impact truama does more per hit

[magic hazel]

Sadly I'm a console peasant

I wish Microsoft would get their thumbs out of their ass and let us have fun, we're gamers too man!

[strong gulch]

It's for surge is faster casting and hitting, but trauma is aoe with infinite cleave.

[thin knoll]

Anyone know if enhanced picnics Smite is viable on anything? The buff doesn't feel significant enough to warrant it

Psionics* lol

[magic hazel]

I like truama for those auric maelstroms with the scabs only melee no ammo

10+ crushers come shuffling down a hallway:

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-my-time-has-come-gif-8019684

[jovial juniper]

With creeping Flames

[strong gulch]

smite talk here #psyker-class message
#psyker-class message

[thin knoll]

I have a smite/surge flames build already, just not with EP.

[strong gulch]

EP explained in the links.

[thin knoll]

Danky

[magic hazel]

My favorite part is how it turns it purple and blue with little sparkles like one of them desktop Plasma Orb nicknacks

https://tenor.com/view/plasma-ball-in-a-vacuum-the-king-of-random-plasma-globe-tesla-coil-physics-experiment-gif-19915131

[thin knoll]

The smite/surge/flame build I got is from that psyker guide. I forget what it's called. It's the psyker equivalent to the Ogrynomicon

[jovial juniper]

Atheneum

[strong gulch]

This one?

[ashen schooner]

yes ep smite+vent is very good horde clear/control

[thin knoll]

Yes

[strong gulch]

Different focused builds. EP is for smite focus and damage while WC/ WS is for surge staff focus and damage.

Smite is a utility tool only without EP.

[thin knoll]

Is surge staff still thr best pairing?

[strong gulch]

Yes.

[thin knoll]

Neat. Thanks

[strong gulch]

Though you can take void, but if you're gonna play void, I'd just lean into that staff for damage and take DD.

Smite is aoe while surge and void are more* single target focused.

Edit: added the word "more"

[halcyon gust]

Void does have a decent bit of cleave so it can chew through crowds in a pinch

Nothing like getting 4 elites in a single void orb

[ashen schooner]

yea void can mulch a whole horde if you can get them coming through a doorway

[strong gulch]

Also keep in mind about In fire Reborn, enemies HAVE to have SB (soulblaze) on them to get charges passively. Unless you able to constantly have SB, Psychic Vampire will be better / more consistent.

[halcyon gust]

Which if you tend to plau with a Purge staff psyker or a flame trauma psyker

Because it doesn't need to be from You

[strong gulch]

LMAO I for got to type "more".

Yeah void does have some aoe; in particular a line aoe. Not nearly as much as the aoe focused staves tho.

[halcyon gust]

But I do love me void staff

[strong gulch]

Ye. In Fire Reborn doesn't need the SB to be from you or for you to be the one to kill the enemy.

[halcyon gust]

Vamp is better in general, but if you know you're playing a SB spam psyker build use Fire reborn

[jovial juniper]

Should've experienced Mauler 1 shot (technically)

[thin knoll]

So is building around DOT the most consistent way to build psyker? Trauma, purg, and 2 surge/smite builds all work well with it.

Although I've only tried the other Trauma build, not the flame one

[strong gulch]

Considering every build that can take creeping flames and all builds should have PC (perilous combustion), DOTs are important.

One of the highest damage builds doesn't rely super strongly on DOTs; colomnus + SG (scrier's gaze) + assail + DD. However, most builds have DOTs as a prominent feature.

Perilous Combustion

[thin knoll]

Fair enough. I Don't have a tone of experience with gun psyker, so I can't speak to that.

About the colomnus. Is that the gun to take because it just has the best split between rate of fire and damage?

[lilac sigil]

Colum is the fast firing one I think. (Yeah: Agrip > Graia > Colum for damage vs. ROF)

[thin knoll]

Fair enough. I tried it with the machine pistol a while back. My thinking was just to put ROF above everything else. Didn't really feel great.

[jovial juniper]

SAP kinda fell off

[ashen schooner]

yeesh had a vet mag dumbing hordes and grabbing every ammo drop w/bolter, thought I was back in 23

[upper sun]

sounds like he was having a good time

I had a exi stance vet with recon spray the entire map and hoover up all the ammo

bro cleared the entire mission but

it wasnt fun for everyone else 😭

[strong gulch]

Had a psyker a couple days ago mag dumping a RLG into everything and gobbling up ammo left and right. They also cleared the map and the rest of us just kind hung out.

They also took the most damage and weren't able to handle crushers.

[upper sun]

man recon buffs were not a good idea 😭

[jovial juniper]

buff recons

[strong gulch]

I still haven't done a map with one, but playing around with it in the meat grinder feels A LOT.

[loud oar]

you'd have to have one BUILT. Using it for normal it felt like it just wasn't enough oomph on gunners and they don't have any stopping power, least the MG didn't. bursters just kept trucking lmao.

wait

I'm dumb

ignore me

[strong gulch]

🥺

ok

[loud oar]

here's funny video

damn thing snatched me through the fucking wall

[strong gulch]

rude

This on hab dreyko?

[loud oar]

yep.

[strong gulch]

I saw that exact thing happen on that map

[loud oar]

lmao that map ending is bugged out

[strong gulch]

oh no

[loud oar]

when I was first getting into the game I kept trying to go to the mission marker

it wasn't the right place to go lmao

[strong gulch]

omg I hate when that happens

it's so confusing. 😭

I am bad with directions and the just trolls with the markers sometimes

[upper sun]

exact same thing happened to me

[loud oar]

I'm just glad it didn't throw me off the edge lmao

[strong gulch]

IDK if this is in the game's defense or not, but I also have trouble solving the sniper puzzle. There's only 2 options where the sniper could be, but I somehow constantly loose red line 50/50.

[loud oar]

is this for the skulls? (I'm still fresh, but know a bit)

[strong gulch]

Nope. Just me being a dumb and the red laser melting my brains.

[loud oar]

ohhhhh yeah the thing gets me too somwtimes, it gets pretty fast on heresy so you can train on lower either. good mechanic to make you really get good, but still for heresy and damnation it gets me from time to time.

[thin knoll]

We've all turned the wrong way and had a sniper blow the back of our heads off before

It happens

[loud oar]

I'm trying out scriers gaze, is the chainsword the best melee for hoard deleting even in this class?

[strong gulch]

I've accepted my fate and just put sniper resist on a curio and have +175 hp.

Tank the shot. 😭

[fast frost]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-youre-coming-with-me-come-with-me-you-are-coming-with-me-gif-22158870

[strong gulch]

I think someone was running numbers and apparently it is.

[fast frost]

Dueling sword

[strong gulch]

More than even illisi.

[analog agate]

Pretty sure numbers was the one who ran the numbers haha.

[loud oar]

which version?

[fast frost]

Whichever has the red handle/tassle

[strong gulch]

A lot of people take DS with SG and DD.

DS 4

[fast frost]

It’s most versatile psyker weapon imo

I prefer the psy sword tho but not much use for a scryer imo

[strong gulch]

DS2 is also good. Clears hordes better, but it doesn't have as strong single target damage.

[loud oar]

alright ill try it out. Just trying to iron out before I get up to level 30 how I need to play with this character

[fast frost]

Also chain sword is too blunt an instrument for a psycher

I’m ngl obviously do your do but I wouldn’t recommend scryer

[loud oar]

I'm noticing it not even really working how it says in meatgrinder

temporarily slowed my ass lmao

shield it is

[thin knoll]

Shield is great. I find it so borning personally, though

[severe chasm]

hey just got back into darktide after maybe 10 months, is smite still awesome? cant find anything saying anything has drastically changed

[thin knoll]

I think it was nerfed since then. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it used to crit

Or proc something it doesn't anymore

It's still great

Either way

[severe chasm]

whats good set up now a days I used everything under the sun at this point and found everything fun and viable, cant really say which is the "best" for myself.

[strong gulch]

Smite never crit. When it first came out, there was an exploit that allowed someone to cast it forever. Surge staff no longer benefits from smite upgrade and EP. There was a point that smite and surge staff charge could hit random body parts including weakspots, but that has since gone away.

[wind spruce]

Yep, chainsword absolutely is the best horde clear weapon as it has less fall off damage for each consecutively cleaved target making it an absolute monster with scriers and DD... however it's severely outclassed by other weapons outside of horde clear

DS4 still king.

[severe chasm]

im using smite for the increased damage for my squad

[strong gulch]

The slow down on kills with scriers is smol. BM helps with that. Scriers isn't bad tho.

[fast frost]

It’s just awkward is all

[thin knoll]

Oh yeah, the weak spot thing. I had just started then so memory is fuzzy

[jovial juniper]

That's the problem, you could have just killed those targets

[fast frost]

Bunch of nerd shit, numbers etc and stuff to worry about. It’s not just pop the ability deal more damage kinda stuff

[severe chasm]

nice. makes my efforts in getting a really good one of those worth it still

[strong gulch]

EP smite info here for what is current.
#psyker-class message

[thin knoll]

Hopefully we will get new staves at some point

[jovial juniper]

During those 10 months, smite got demonized

[fast frost]

I hope we get biomancy more as thing

[jovial juniper]

It's strong as shit combined with something else, that's true

[fast frost]

I want a fun melee psycher that’s not awkward to play

That’s my hopes for if we ever get more class focuses/“subclasses”

[wind spruce]

It's a huge misconception that smite doesn't do much damage. It's an infinite AOE that will, especially with EP, mulch smaller targets and even wreck ragers and gunners/shorgunners. The damage is only insignificant against ogryns, monstrosities, and isolated enemies

It's just not fun, imo.

[strong gulch]

That's exactly what it is tho. Especially for weapons with crit strings like columnus and recon lasgun. Damage increase is over time tho.

Unless I'm miss reading what you said.

[thin knoll]

I like the scryers gaze psyker in the atheneum that let's you mop up hordes with finesse stacks, but it's a gun build, and melee is always going to be secondary on psyker

[feral verge]

melee can be primary on psyker

[fast frost]

My point is bubble is “gun bad, make bubble” and shriek is “peril bad, shriek” whereas scryers you’re wanting stuff like dealing with your peril and certain weapons really suck with it, it ramps up, you could blow yourself up easily

[strong gulch]

People main melee with SG and DD

[thin knoll]

Really, I thought it was inherently weak compared to the other classes.

Well melee classes

[fast frost]

Scryers is weak and requires skill

[lyric burrow]

not really, can depend

[fast frost]

Scryers won’t achieve much a surge staff or a good sword can’t for big targets and for melting small groups psyker already has a lot

[feral verge]

a competent psyker with the right setup can do more melee damage than a competent zealot

[lyric burrow]

but at least the force swords can be primaries

and DS can be like in line with ranged

[feral verge]

hi yoshi

why are you acid now

[lyric burrow]

hey mankar

[upper galleon]

scryers has trouble fitting into staffs but i wouldn't say it's weak lol

[strong gulch]

SG mainly for non peril weapons. Of course something that is a peril generator will be risky to use while SG is active.

[lyric burrow]

how are you

[lyric burrow]

stan

[upper galleon]

you can go transfer peril surge void staff

[feral verge]

i shouldve known

[upper galleon]

with scrier's

[lyric burrow]

its always stan

[severe chasm]

thanks helped a bunch!

[graceful locust]

cannot wait for the Biomancer Subclass DLC to release in 3 years

[fast frost]

I would argue psykers have the best melee weapon choices for being versatile

[feral verge]

i am good. i think i worked 60 hours this week lol @lyric burrow

[graceful locust]

i like the thundr hammer more because it makes a loud noise and is big

[thin knoll]

So what's a melee build like for a force sword? Illsi only I imagine.

[lyric burrow]

ew

[graceful locust]

i am a Caveman

[lyric burrow]

rough trips?

[strong gulch]

Illisi and deimos are good.

[fast frost]

Check the pins for the Atheneum

[graceful locust]

i just use wahtever looks the coolest TBH i like soulflame and the force swords

[fast frost]

I use the special spam build for the psy sword and it’s brilliant. Have no issues and routinely play with it

[wind spruce]

Duelling sword.

[severe chasm]

are the shock mauls good for higher tiers?

[fast frost]

I keep meaning to make a pure flame build

[lyric burrow]

deimos is very strong, i honestly might put it over illisi

[graceful locust]

idk abouyt psyker but i clean house with my martyr zealot with the shock mauls

[fast frost]

I haven’t used them but I believe they’re regarded as solid. Idk if I wouldn’t rather use psykers exclusives tho

[lyric burrow]

i have more exp with deimos though

[graceful locust]

the shock mauls r gas

[lyric burrow]

they are good

not crazy

but good

[sand path]

what is the "meta" dueling sword?

[lyric burrow]

you could run auric with them for sure

[thin knoll]

I like demos a lot. Never use the special though. It's thrust is strong af withoutbit

[lyric burrow]

mk4

mk2 is also good

[graceful locust]

NEEEEEERD

[feral verge]

we took a route from another branch from new hampshire, because that branch is struggling and they kinda suck. i volunteered to do that route. i dont know the area at all, and that previous branch was missing/skipping almost every stop/customer, so each customer had months worth of money bags to be picked up. most customers are scheduled to be picked up once or twice a week.

[sand path]

wouldn't nerd be the knife?

[severe chasm]

i see I pulled for a good stat roll for the two types.

[feral verge]

so each stop took like 15-30 minutes, when it should only take 8 at the most

[sand path]

what's the main diff between mk 2 and 4?

[fast frost]

That’s my point tho you have to build around SG and have a level of skill using it. The others like most abilities are a push the button and that’s your button done. Don’t have to prep etc.

[graceful locust]

i honestly don't even care about blessings or wahtever they are i just run into crowds and swing while screaming at the top of my lungs and it seems to work most of the time

as i said before i am a Caveman

[lyric burrow]

mk4 has better single target DPS via looping heavies, whereas mk2 has a sweep heavy so it loses a bit of DPS when heavying

[feral verge]

the area is lawrence/lowell MA, if you are curious

[lyric burrow]

oh damn

that sucks

big paycheck at least

[graceful locust]

eugh

[fast frost]

Red tassle/handle I can’t remember what mk. Can build into anti specialist with heavies or ad clear with lights

[feral verge]

kind of sucks, but it is fun to explore somewhere new to me

[lyric burrow]

NH is neat

[feral verge]

yeah i've been everywhere in NH

[lyric burrow]

havent been over their in a little though

[graceful locust]

NH is the best state in the US i live there its Amazing

[feral verge]

too bad the route isnt in NH

[graceful locust]

no sales tax or income tax, everything is cheap

[feral verge]

Salem NH was supposed to be on that route, but apparently they are keeping it for the NH branch

[graceful locust]

lawrence mass only has godsmack

and that is it

[feral verge]

i knew nothing about lawrence, up until this route

everyone is telling me how bad it is lol

[graceful locust]

yeah its where godsmack formed

it fucking sucks yeah

i used to live in lowell and had to go thru lawrence with my dad sometimes

they hav elike 2 good tattoo places and fent heads

[feral verge]

i see crackheads everywhere

[graceful locust]

yeah you're in new england

[lyric burrow]

yeah i have not been to that area

[graceful locust]

don't go there

[lyric burrow]

i do generally try to avoid crackheads

[graceful locust]

fair enough

[feral verge]

for now, they seem to stay away from me

because i look like a cop

[graceful locust]

the only places worht going in mass anymore are the costal bits, boston (the area covered by the T), and worcestor

everywhere else blows

[lyric burrow]

main downside of boston being if you need to drive in it

[graceful locust]

just use the train

[lyric burrow]

but they do have stuff there

[graceful locust]

get a charlie card and use the T

[lyric burrow]

yeah i wouldnt drive through it

not myself at least

[feral verge]

ive been everywhere east of worcester at this point

[graceful locust]

driving in boston is nightmarish

[feral verge]

my favorite town is groton

just seems like a quiet place literally in the middle of the woods

[graceful locust]

my sister went to groton school

[feral verge]

that's the one place where i told my supervisors i refuse to drive. i'll drive/work anywhere else, but boston

[sand path]

do I need + stamina for Dueling Swords?

[lyric burrow]

no

[feral verge]

i'll go to shit dangerous areas, like dorchester or brockton

[graceful locust]

you a trucker?

[lyric burrow]

you dont really need +stam for anything

[feral verge]

armored car/ ATM tech

[graceful locust]

oh thats way cooler

[sand path]

what bonus dmg to I get for the D.Sword?

[feral verge]

it's fun

[lyric burrow]

flak unyielding/maniac/elites

[sand path]

ty

[graceful locust]

i only go into boston for the warhammer store in brookline, concerts, and college tours

[thin knoll]

Is the atheneum solid for curio advice? That's something I'm also unsure of.

[feral verge]

oh cool. didnt know there was a warhammer store

[graceful locust]

yeah in brookline, i think there are two other ones in the boston metro area too

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[graceful locust]

iirc the one in brookline jsut got more skaven stuff in so i might head over there tmrw and check it out

need them warplock jezzails 🤞

[sand path]

Riposte and Flesh Tearer for Mk III Knife?

[graceful locust]

i love them i love skaven i am the verminlord

[feral verge]

The only Warhammer stuff I see myself buying are books and maybe some cool sister of battle model

[jovial juniper]

Needs uncanny

[feral verge]

I'm not big into table top games

[jovial juniper]

Free rending

[graceful locust]

i don't play the tabletop i just think the little guys look neat

[lyric burrow]

i would get like a model weapon for display cause i like display stuff

yeah im a huge nerd

[feral verge]

Based

[lyric burrow]

but i dont actually know WH outside of DT

[graceful locust]

only ttrpg i play is DND

hoooooooo boy

i've been into warhammer for like

shit 6 years now?

not even that long in comparison to other people

[feral verge]

Everything I know from WH is from lore videos on YouTube, like from luetin

[graceful locust]

did you see the new sororitas models on the warhammer forum?

[feral verge]

When you drive all day, those videos are amazing to just listen to

[feral verge]

Nope

[graceful locust]

so badass

[sand path]

do i remove flesh tearer or riposte to replace with uncanny?

[feral verge]

I like it

[lyric burrow]

flesh tearer

[graceful locust]

the daemonbreaker herself

[sand path]

even if I don't get the crit talents ?

[fast frost]

Interesting discussion in Reddit saying BB is the worst blitz because it lacks utility and staves or a melee already likely fill it’s role

[lyric burrow]

FT requires crit chance, so if you dont have really high crit chance you wont get much benefit anyway

[fast frost]

Tbh other than monster damage I don’t get BB, like I can see why people think it’s cool and why purg/trauma would use it but I don’t get it otherwise

[lyric burrow]

and knife crits are really god

good

[graceful locust]

well i don't care its cool

[lyric burrow]

so more raw crit chance is great for it

[strong gulch]

Knife has a higher base crit chance tho

[graceful locust]

also when you get empower psionics and beam down a chaos spawn by yourself in 10 seconds it gives you a high that cannot be matched

[fast frost]

Big argument seems to be “you feed it stacks with a staff then pop off” but other than killing a monster which you maybe see two of I don’t get why you wouldn’t keep using the staff

Although that in itself is utility so

[lyric burrow]

even then to get the most out of it youd want riposte FT and if your taking uncanny as one i probably wouldnt do FT uncanny unless you REALLY want bleed for some reason

constant crits from knife is really good and even with the 15% crit chance psyker needs sciers up often to get really high crit chance without riposte

[strong gulch]

Point taken, but bleeds do allow you to run in and out of danger.

[lyric burrow]

i dont think FT is bad, but if your going between uncanny FT or uncanny riposte id def take riposte

either way will be good

they just asked

[strong gulch]

Super long range sniping tool is pretty good when its needed. EP BB can go hard. But it does get rendered pointless if you have a really good vet.

[lyric burrow]

a lot of psyker melee or staffs also do its job

like if i have DS

or a gun

or void or surge

i dont really feel the need for BB

since elite killing isnt hard to come by on psyker

so BB ends up being kind of a specific role

[strong gulch]

Yeah it does.

Like with purg.

That's mostly it.

It's good with trauma, but trauma can also handle a lot of what BB offers.

[lyric burrow]

yeah it almost feels like im going out of my way to take it

[strong gulch]

Though, being able to nab something squirrelly that going around a corner or ducks is nice.

[lyric burrow]

yeah that is a legit benefit of it

[sand path]

what should I look for when refining curios?

[strong gulch]

BUT when everything is stacked with KR. EP, blue stim, you can burst down things pretty quickly.

Seems like the more competent the team, the less BB has to offer.

[sand path]

for substats

[strong gulch]

That kinda changes with your ability to handle threats and as your play style evolves.

You can't go wrong with things like hp and toughness. If you find that a sniper gets ya, sniper resist. If gunners get ya (and I do mean just gunners and maybe reapers), gunner resist. If you are good about being in coherency, toughness regen.

You could put sniper resist on one curio and fill the rest with hp, toughness, and ability cool down if you just want something that will benefit you and not think about it.

[jovial juniper]

KF is good with surge staff because you have a 10% chance and a 50% chance of hitting the target you want

[orchid shadow]

Sniper resist always feels like a wasted slot. It's one of those things where you miss having it if you get tagged, but that can be what, once in ten, maybe more games?

[halcyon gust]

It's kinda nice to have in your back pocket

Because you get instant tagged by a sniper if you get into their LOS before you notice it or get into by accident dealing other threats

[strong gulch]

You can shrimply be bad and never dodge the sniper. 😩

It's me. I tank it too often.

[halcyon gust]

Or the times you do attempt to dodge, but a Pox walker happens to place itself in the perfect spot to block the dodge

[jovial juniper]

Not to mention that it can proc from the stagger ticks

[halcyon gust]

I can never go wrong with +Toughness and Gunner resist on Curios I run

[strong gulch]

ok

[ornate hamlet]

Ate a crusher overhead like that

[halcyon gust]

[strong gulch]

One little goober holding a psyker in places while yelling "git em!!"

[halcyon gust]

Beloved not the pancake dream again!!!

[late sapphire]

Just dodge it in place, silly

[thin knoll]

Anyone know if high voltage on shock maul works with smite/surge?

[jovial juniper]

Damage vs electrocuted?

Probably with smite

Rending if stagger is probably better

[strong gulch]

I know high voltage is one of the blessing to get for shock mauls.

[jovial juniper]

The other is Skullcrusher

[strong gulch]

Beyond that, I know not the ways of shocks mauls, their interactions, nor the differences between marks.

Checking the Atheneum is probably best for now. Then bring the question up later if it isn't answered in the guide.

[thin knoll]

I'm trying the ep smite build and wondered if shock maul would synergize well

Fair enough.

[jovial juniper]

You'd be using more smite than your melee, no?

[strong gulch]

The weakest part of ep smite will be vs crushers and monsters, so if shock mauls handle either of those well, that's probably your answer.

BUT, if you're good enough, you can run anything.

[thin knoll]

Are crushers affected by unyielding buff or just cara?

[strong gulch]

cara only

[ionic magnet]

i just tried this and it does pretty ok but i prefer using rapier or blaze sword. Rapier for monouvering or Blaze sword for the guarantee stagger. Smite builds are tought imo because it relies on teammated not just eye goggling the enemies youre holding in place

[thin knoll]

Ok cool

[quick tulip]

Recon VId

[jovial juniper]

No true aim

[strong gulch]

no true aim, PC, or warp rider

[quick tulip]

yeah I was thinking this for the memes of warp charges but lol

I saw I could do it and

[jovial juniper]

Mind in motion, really?

[strong gulch]

oh memes. nevermind

[quick tulip]

I like being fast after playing all that 3+3stam veteran knife build

trading deadshot for true aim is pretty fun

[strong gulch]

If you want fast, then you should also take DD

[quick tulip]

yeah, usually do, wanted to see what warp charges would do for scier's gaze, if anything

worked strangely well but also turned you into a literal ammo vacuum

[strong gulch]

WC work on SG cooldown now, but they go away on SG cast, so not much.

[jovial juniper]

Well, if you don't want ammo vacuum get the Mk2

Or use more shards

[quick tulip]

it's like having a backup smart pistol

[zinc sphinx]

sparkies still arguing?

[strong gulch]

Not right now

It's quiet now.

[zinc sphinx]

Could one ov you tell brunt to sell a pick with headtaker?

[strong gulch]

Hey Brunt! Dig out a pick with headtaker. I know you have one.

[restive ice]

one limbsplitter pick coming right up

[jovial juniper]

Yo! Brunt, remember that one time? Yeah

Sorry, seems like Brunt was busy with another call

[thin knoll]

Ep smite is fun.

[ornate hamlet]

iffff memory doesn't fail me

"electrocuted" is specifically the stun the shock mauls do

I think someone here in the server tested it with that mod that gives floating numbers to enemy staggers, debuffs and whatnot

[wind spruce]

The electrocuted state also triggers off of regular bonks

There's a visual effect that shows electricity sparking off the enemies

[ornate hamlet]

videogame

[zinc sphinx]

yes, mods make the game insanely entertaining

[strong gulch]

[cosmic sigil]

Thicc

[strong gulch]

Brunt has 2 "+2" stamina curios in the shop again.

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-homer-simpson-scream-angry-gif-2579089536662940145

[fresh reef]

disrupt detiny is such a busted keystone lol

[sand path]

is the +3 a bait?

any of the smite perks is worth investing?

[ashen schooner]

yea

[mossy oyster]

looking 2 make a gunker

what should I gamble on

[broken carbon]

a columnus

columnus is the most broken option for gunker

out of those options none are really good, except for that 375 on the bottom right

but the chances of getting what u want from it when u upgrade are pretty small

worth trying i think though

dumdum and deathspitter r what u want

[mossy oyster]

double barrel gunker when itemization drops

imagine the power

[broken carbon]

dumdum fire frenzy is also acceptable

[broken carbon]

lmfao

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-sussy-sussie-air-pod-shotty-gif-19806735

manstopper / scattershot

have true aim guarantee your crit

have scrier's buff

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

im making double barrel gunker meme

after columnus

[broken carbon]

lmfao

alright

[potent echo]

i played abit of that its

not the worst

esp since psyker has assail/BB for ranged

[strong gulch]

+3 75 rating stam curios only give +2 stam benefits in a game. They function correctly in the meat grinder, but not in real mission. It's a scam.

[brazen rampart]

Fatshark loves having misleading information!

[strong gulch]

true

[round coyote]

I like when sparkies call it gunker

Gunk

[restive ice]

rock

[restive ice]

missing 1 stopping power scrap for dockets

[mossy oyster]

agreed

i have a backup at least

[restive ice]

3 points lower in the base rating scrap for dockets

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/toad-mario-party-mario-party9-mp9-gif-22659166

[half anvil]

im gonna say it

Assail has grown on me

and damnit im not okay with it

[mossy oyster]

if I roll block efficiency on a weap and I have KD is it worth to keep it

[lyric burrow]

no

KD+Stam esp with psyker stam regen is so much block room youd never use it

[mossy oyster]

bet

[cosmic sigil]

The more I use assail the more I prefer BR

[mental grail]

What are the Indi maul choice blessings?

[wind spruce]

But assail is busted

[mossy oyster]

siblings

I have turned into a forbidden gunker

and its probably the most fun ive had with soyker ngl

[wind spruce]

Skullcrusher and high voltage for max damage, lightning reflexes for CC

[wind spruce]

Gunker is the shit

And you're a Chad taxe user, too

[mossy oyster]

yeah its funny

I tried rashad

and dont get me wrong mine wasnt absolutely the best or the worst

but I really like taxe alot more for this playstyle

the inherent atk spd from taxe feels so much better

I cant boost my atk spd like zealot

[cosmic sigil]

rashad sluggish af

[wind spruce]

Yeah I don't like combat Axes on gunker

I don't mind using it with staves tho

[mossy oyster]

taxes feel good

esp when I get DD goin

with scriers

[cosmic sigil]

all or nothing + headtaker is my go to now

[mossy oyster]

ah really do you get alot of use out of AoN?

or is it your personal way you use it

[cosmic sigil]

a lot because i pa + h1 all the time

[mossy oyster]

I guess with scriers making you run everywhere it makes sense

ah with taxe?

thats good

[cosmic sigil]

so i always have access to a ton of power

[wind spruce]

I need to try that

Extra 40% power most of the time... fwooah

[mossy oyster]

ah damn i only have t3 all or nothing

[cosmic sigil]

all credit goes to @buoyant maple

[wind spruce]

I usually run shred headtaker if I'm not running bromentum

[cosmic sigil]

that is valid too

[wind spruce]

I hate that it drops off on every miss though

So lame

[cosmic sigil]

aon never drops and doesn't care about bp

it just gives you power for doing pa + h1

[wind spruce]

Basically free

[cosmic sigil]

and on psyker it's very safe considering you're regening stam like no one

[wind spruce]

Yeah it's not an issue, especially with KD

I've been running this a bit and holding down quell a shitload to maintain scriers

Quelling mid slide etc like a real try hard

[cosmic sigil]

does it work?

[wind spruce]

For sure

I've been running it without the solidity leg for ages

But it works with it

[ornate hamlet]

arab bill nye

[mental grail]

soyker

[upper sun]

💀 soyker

[mental grail]

fuck

I should read this before I put high voltage on it

I have become error

[wind spruce]

I think that was an episode of Would I lie to you I was watching haha

[wind spruce]

High voltage is good tho?

[vernal agate]

Hey guys why does one of the free cosmetic sets for psyker make you look like a Christmas tree?

truly festive

[mental grail]

It was for cc in a pinch

[wind spruce]

Do you mean lightning reflexes? High voltage gives damage against electrocuted targets

[mental grail]

Yeah I would have put LR on but I wasted my 2 slots

[wind spruce]

Ah, fair enough

I prefer the extra damage anyway

[grizzled sierra]

i have learned that gunker is fun and really powerful
though i also dont have my toughness sustain that ive grwn to rely on xD

[mossy oyster]

yes

gunker i'd say requires a little more finesse

and definitely getting your hands dirtier than a normal psyker setup

probably why its so fun

[ornate hamlet]

critty boi

[mossy oyster]

crazy psyker chestpiece

never seen this one

[ornate hamlet]

It's a very poggers piece

I use it religiously

[mossy oyster]

have you seen my sets

updated them recently

[ornate hamlet]

no

[mossy oyster]

my turn

also best name

[ornate hamlet]

The penance cape is a timeless classic

It was my fit before I got the funny coat

Granted it could be again with the drip mod

[mossy oyster]

the first set really grew on me

i like it alot

the helmet is good

[ornate hamlet]

It definitely does the trick on the matching coloyrs

Which is rare in this gamr

E

[mossy oyster]

honestly yeah

also seer scrier voicelines

are god tier

I'm SUDDENLY FEELING VERY POWERFUL

shoots a warp uzi

[potent echo]

Warpglock

[wind spruce]

I got good at gunker once I realised that you've gotta lean into your hyper mobility and get aggressive with diving in and then dipping back out again

[mossy oyster]

yop

gotta know when to dip in then immediately out

rewarding