psyker-class

[wind spruce]

Can you use an auto fire mod

[austere crest]

i tried it but it shoots slower than clicking it faster than it can shoot

and it felt like i was less connected if that makes sense

like it was just a gun and not coming out of me

[wind spruce]

Yeah it does, because you can't delay the shots as easily

[austere crest]

immersion matters ok XD

[broken carbon]

my issue is just, i don’t like buffs that rely on such a major hit or miss,

i don’t like crit builds in game unless i can get above 60%

because otherwise it feels too inconsistent to be something i can rely on

[austere crest]

i dodge with my heavies, so riposte uptime is like the whole time im engaging thick stuff

[strong gulch]

I've seen some of your videos. You operate in a fast and squirrely manner; and full auto mod just breaks sometimes.

[austere crest]

it does yeah, it was unreliable

[strong gulch]

So precision gets fecked

[wind spruce]

I get that, but you're just trading one inconsistency for another because of precogs terrible uptime

[potent echo]

Idk I thinks it's really hard to guarantee value from precog

[strong gulch]

I still use it tho

[broken carbon]

i get what u mean

i might run riposte to just try it out then

[austere crest]

i tried macro too but it just completely disconnects from like expelling the energy from adhd XD

[broken carbon]

against the enemy that needs it, crushers, i always have it active

[austere crest]

same with riposte, those are biggies to be dodging, and its always there

[potent echo]

If I use ds4 I do head pokey so they don't even get to swing lol

[broken carbon]

yah my dodge count is always 700+

[wind spruce]

6s just gives you so much uptime. Dodge a mutie, dog, trapper, baby shooter on the way in to melee? You can close and still have the buff up

[austere crest]

yummy

[potent echo]

Unoptimal F

[broken carbon]

the special?

i need 2 use it more

it’s a free uncanny stack

[potent echo]

Yea interrupts overhead

Yuh

[broken carbon]

yeha it’s stupid lmfao

[wind spruce]

Even then, many teams will be staggering crushers out of their attacks

[potent echo]

It's guh

[broken carbon]

u get some good pubs then

[austere crest]

empathic evasion feeels like it works with anticipation but i cant actually tell with high crit rate

[broken carbon]

anticipation is which one?

[potent echo]

Good pubs = vet that press F

[broken carbon]

i don’t have psyker’s full tree memorized

how would that stack with EE?

[potent echo]

I actually really like this whenever I go scrier

[potent echo]

Idk why but it just feels better

[broken carbon]

oh do u mean increasing time that

[wind spruce]

EE is specifically a 1s buff, though

[broken carbon]

yeah i get what u mean

i don’t think it does at all

[austere crest]

so between that and riposte

[wind spruce]

You should be able to time if it's lasting longer

[austere crest]

you becomne untouchable'

[broken carbon]

but that means i can’t get one with the warp :(

granted it’s like useless anyway

[austere crest]

noo its not

[broken carbon]

it’s not but still

[mossy oyster]

ok the soykers are active

[austere crest]

warp rupture changed everything for me

[mossy oyster]

is anticipation actually good ?

[broken carbon]

a SINGLE dreg shooter taking my toughness from 151 to like 30

is so annoying

[austere crest]

lol yeah, me with poxwalkers

anticipation is cool yeah

[broken carbon]

pleaseee give psyker TDR or toughness gen that doesn’t rely so heavily on kills

like

when a psyker is shooting into a horde or elite pack yay i’m unkillable

[austere crest]

just run toughness regen > toughness (at least try it and see if u like it)

[broken carbon]

2-3 spread out gunners? death

[wind spruce]

Dodge-slide.

[broken carbon]

i run 1 stam 2 toughness

[broken carbon]

i do.

[wind spruce]

Or just run at the gunners and stab their dumb faces

[broken carbon]

u still get tagged by one or two shots, and when that’s enough to halve your toughness

[austere crest]

this lil fella right here stacked on 3 curios makes it very fast, and it how it survived on stamina builds for so long lol

[mossy oyster]

i heard toughness regen only affects coherency

[broken carbon]

yeah it does

[mossy oyster]

unless thats what you want

[austere crest]

be in coherency

[broken carbon]

i might try it

[potent echo]

Never

[austere crest]

and it goes up as fast as it goes down

[mossy oyster]

I AM in coherency im just not running that node anymore

rather have more toughness hp or maybe a sniper res

[broken carbon]

coherency more like

shitherency

bazinga

[austere crest]

sheesh

[broken carbon]

this is the first time i’ve seen u in psyker chat i think

[potent echo]

Copeherency

[austere crest]

your the reason i run a toughness curio now lol

[broken carbon]

who is

[austere crest]

YOU dearest

XD

[broken carbon]

wha

i’m confused…

[mossy oyster]

maybe ill slot it back for psyker

but not on my zeal

[broken carbon]

please explain joke i’m lost

[mossy oyster]

soykers are walking toughness batteries at least

[austere crest]

and you are!

[jovial juniper]

Get inside the cope bubble

[broken carbon]

this is me

if u even care

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/XGvjzQ

This is how you deal with gunners

[potent echo]

I better see ghost

[austere crest]

im kidding, toughness regen is faster with coherency, so no coherencyt means going toughness, nvm XD

[mossy oyster]

psyker bubble

siblings i dont like guns i enjoy being a wizard

how do i love the gun

[potent echo]

Emperor's sanctioned melee combat is great too

[austere crest]

you know whats crazy is this is so close to when i was dead watching a psyker play the other day lol i checked to see if it was the game for a sec

[broken carbon]

that’s in a place where u have plenty of cover to break sightlines, and ur easily able to get in their faces,

im talking about areas like ascension riser or some of the desert areas, where they’re spread out in enormous open area:

[wind spruce]

This was months ago haha

[broken carbon]

it was me

[mossy oyster]

the naked vet with a helmet is a nice bonus

[broken carbon]

still lost but it’s okay

i’m a little stupid

[potent echo]

Creamy

That's my secret capt

[broken carbon]

you’re always creamy?

[austere crest]

is good?

[wind spruce]

You run columnus, DD and scriers and enjoy watching everything melt before you

What's not to love

[wind spruce]

You disgust me.

[austere crest]

is strong?

[broken carbon]

at least take DD even without the subnodes :(

[mossy oyster]

hmm I think I do have a columnus but nothing is on it yet

gotta farm plasteel again

[austere crest]

i would have to give up alot to get to a keystone

[broken carbon]

quell speed?

[austere crest]

but idk if i should bring the electric stick or the jabby stabber

[broken carbon]

shock maul

they r awesome

i need to use them more

[austere crest]

eh, i think i quell more than i would actually hold stacks tho

[wind spruce]

Stacks stay at 12+ with no effort these days

[austere crest]

i feel like DD you have to extend

[broken carbon]

well if u free up 3 points ur gonna have 15 stacks for a majority of the match

[wind spruce]

I ignore it the entire game

[austere crest]

that would put me at an advantage power wise

[broken carbon]

how often r u gonna be quelling though

[austere crest]

i must be a team player

alot with scriers

[broken carbon]

is a gunker or staff build?

autocorrect hates me

[austere crest]

prob just do run n gun surge

[broken carbon]

hate

are they trolling or running a shitter build on purpose

who knows

[wind spruce]

You could get rid of the node above shield and warp expenditure to pick up a single point keystone

[austere crest]

this is my maul

[broken carbon]

agni?

with thrust?

[austere crest]

is good?

[potent echo]

Thrust is kinda sus

[broken carbon]

better to take skullcrusher

[austere crest]

skullcrusher got it one sec

[broken carbon]

SC is the damage on staggered enemies right

i don’t remember

[potent echo]

Yuh

[broken carbon]

okay pawesome

[austere crest]

is nicer?

[broken carbon]

i deeply fuck with the surge staff name

[potent echo]

You bzzinga the bulwark and you get both HV and SC

[broken carbon]

swap infested to flak falter to high voltage

[potent echo]

Ultra fuk

[broken carbon]

though i think the other shock maul is better

[potent echo]

I like indig saul

[austere crest]

what about thsi one

[potent echo]

The horizontal heavy still oneshots most things

[broken carbon]

bricked tbh

[austere crest]

ok trashing

[broken carbon]

could be a 3/4

but

not worth imo

[wind spruce]

Bzzinga lmao

[austere crest]

is gone

[broken carbon]

ohh i just got that

clever

[austere crest]

what abotu this one

or this this is my last one

i do the one u say and combo

[broken carbon]

why do u like thrust so much

[austere crest]

it sounds nice

"thrust"

i get giggly

[broken carbon]

sex.

[wind spruce]

This one

[broken carbon]

jorkin my it

peanits.

[austere crest]

ok

and what change

[wind spruce]

Falter to high voltage

[broken carbon]

infested to flak

or maniac

[wind spruce]

Infested to flak or maniac depending what you're whacking with it more often

[broken carbon]

or carapace

[potent echo]

LR is real nice too

Especially vs ragers and bulwarks

Crushers if you are brave

[wind spruce]

Yeah can go LR too

[wind spruce]

Stoopid*

[potent echo]

My yellow pee vet just taking overheads

[austere crest]

😄 i"M STOOPID

[potent echo]

This is a pog stick

Except unyielding lol

The stick already has such bad unyielding damage

[wind spruce]

I've started sticking unyielding on so much stuff

Gotta kill those pesky bulwarks faster

[austere crest]

THIS is a nice stick

i like it

cool its like not strong but also is strong and im gonna forget to electrocute most of the time XD

[broken carbon]

have u tried an indig?

[austere crest]

i'm gonna go out there and be terrible and hyper and im gonna be like bam bam on flinstones

indigestion? i'm familiar

[mossy oyster]

spam the shocky special

[broken carbon]

u can tase the bulwarks shield

[mossy oyster]

best part of it

[broken carbon]

and it opens them up

[broken carbon]

no the other shock maul lmfao

[mossy oyster]

i think ive stopped crusher/mauler overheads with smaul special

id recommend trying it in the grinder first though

[potent echo]

HV works without shocking too

For smaller things

Some content creators take hammerblow(?) on it

[austere crest]

wait how

[potent echo]

Because spam light stagger ragers haha

[potent echo]

Saul applies electricity to anything you stagger

[mossy oyster]

yea the lights are extremely good ont he smaul

[austere crest]

omg i get it

[potent echo]

Just like by itself

[austere crest]

and do u think electro'd surge enemies count if still shocky looking while i swap

[buoyant maple]

Smite & surge staff can both electrocute for u

[potent echo]

Yea it does

[mossy oyster]

resisting the urge to electricity max

[austere crest]

im gonna have a lot of fun

and die because of scriers gaze

I think Lita will be joining the party tonight after all the weakspot talk

[mossy oyster]

do you guys run the true peril mod or any peril hud mods

im pretty fine with default

just wanted to know if the others were worth or not

[strong gulch]

I wish your hands a good journey. Pewpew for the win

[strong gulch]

A lot of people do and say they prefer it.

I think it's 83.3% with true peril mod to get 6 SB stacks from creeping flames. 85% without.

[austere crest]

i do because its much smoother and linear

[potent echo]

True peril always

[austere crest]

Thank you, I'm off to bring them crumbling, may the Emperor be with you

[potent echo]

Downside is you can't blame the game anymore

[mossy oyster]

never did

always just hated blowing up like an idiot

cause i over shot once

[potent echo]

I always type I'm stupid in all caps so the pubs knew it was me

[mossy oyster]

I just say mb

[potent echo]

I was the daemonhost all along

[mossy oyster]

cause now my team has to save my dumb ass

[strong gulch]

Game drops input so you don't switch or it lags breifly and boom.

A lot of the time I just full for get about peril until I oopsie.

[austere crest]

ok byeee

[strong gulch]

🫡

[austere crest]

best test level ever

[mossy oyster]

ok sick im going in there and walling everything and bowling

just need more qol mods

or customize stuff

[buoyant maple]

Dodge bar is pretty good ngl

[strong gulch]

Not HUD related but clean block and chat block are great.

[mossy oyster]

already got dodge bar

looking at this rn

[quartz barn]

Man i just want another mostly melee mael

Sad trauma gaming hours

[mossy oyster]

i want this but what if it just drops my fps from everyone getting obliterated

[austere crest]

xd

[potent echo]

Psych ward the best mod ever

[mossy oyster]

got that 1 too

[quartz barn]

Also ngl i used dodge counter for a while but legit didnt need it

[buoyant maple]

If u set ragdoll number very low it shouldn’t be a problem

Ragdoll 3 means there can only be up to 3 enemy bodies for u to see

[quartz barn]

Because it only matters for when youre stuck and caught off guard

[mossy oyster]

but i wanna see the carnage....

i'll see how it is normally

[buoyant maple]

I mean, u still see gore effect as u kill them

[mossy oyster]

then adjust

[buoyant maple]

U could also use super impact

It’s funnier

[mossy oyster]

is that what cole has

ive been trying to get that crazy ragdoll mod

he just backstabs crushers/maulers and they go flying

wonder if both would work and u just have blood flying everywhere

[buoyant maple]

Yea that’s super impact

[mossy oyster]

found it

[buoyant maple]

U can make crusher space program

[mossy oyster]

blessed be

now I can get some real use out of thunder hammer and knife backstabs

[buoyant maple]

With enough impact, uppercut attacks will send enemies straight to Atoma Prime’s stratosphere

[mossy oyster]

trauma RMB

https://tenor.com/view/wachi-wachi-wa-flying-cj-grand-theft-auto-grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-gif-17079703

every bulwark gone

either in space or reduced to atoms

[ornate hamlet]

cj gta sanandres

[round coyote]

Should be normal for me!

Want to send little heretics into space!

[austere crest]

omg

i found the mojo

thanks all this is going to be fun to get good with

[mossy oyster]

then you popped scriers and 100-0 that DH after right

ok new best mod

brain fart explosion

[grizzled sierra]

This make edging peril even funnier

https://youtu.be/kyg1uxOsAUY

[mossy oyster]

cant wait to die laughing as my psyker dies across the map

during a random horde

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/325

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/marv-gif-9552307

[mossy oyster]

perfect for the zap build skudi just started making

[wind spruce]

Can smite even crit?

[potent echo]

No

[wind spruce]

Thought as much

[mossy oyster]

they should have made it activate just with smite RMB

[wind spruce]

You'd be even more completely immortal than smite makes you rn if it could proc mettle and EE

[mossy oyster]

if smite could crit that be crazy with EE

yea literally

[quartz barn]

True aim + smite synergy

[potent echo]

It existed for one patch

[silent socket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1272353602823782450/v09044g40000cqrr0svog65g6c6fj4u0.mp4?ex=66bbfca2&is=66baab22&hm=036cfea641a1364b637d2487bac5cb75bafd08156a55b2aed37d1496d1f3295d&

[half iron]

unsanctioned pskibidi

[mossy oyster]

beloved kill this man

[wind spruce]

I exploded at like 30% peril the other day

Truly perilous

[mossy oyster]

just had a psyker aneurysm myself reading that

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[half iron]

erm what the psyker

[grizzled sierra]

Grug totally definetly intentionally blew himself up for the penance yesterday

Grug DEFINETLY isn't terrible at edging his peril for that sweet sweet extra 20% damage

And crit

[wind spruce]

Is this a super old video? The colour scheme of the warp charges buff icon reminds me of pre-patch 13, but I might be misremembering.

[wind spruce]

Even the best psykers explode while edging on occasion

[spice veldt]

yeah i've seen the gif starting from quite a while ago

[wind spruce]

Warp charges are purple now, aren't they?

[potent echo]

gif mentioned

[spice veldt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925855860557746267/1148583910691836006/JMYS0W5RDOL7U41RPH.gif

[spice veldt]

i think so yeah

[vestal fulcrum]

They are purple indeed

At least on the buff bar

The floaty things in your FOV are still light blue-ish

[wind spruce]

Wait, what floaty things?

[vestal fulcrum]

there's swirly cool warp things (particle effects) around you whenever you have Warp charges

IDK if they're visible in third person, but they sure are in your first person view

[potent echo]

I disabled those so long ago

[vestal fulcrum]

[potent echo]

Infiltrate also no longer makes me blind

Literally cheating

[grizzled sierra]

Somehow it feels like the German accent psyker is the only one who got his shit together

[potent echo]

Report me

[vestal fulcrum]

The Seers are absolutely sane also

[vestal fulcrum]

I mean, I’m not a saint, I have some screen/sound effects turned off as well

They don’t add to my experience, so why bother having them

[potent echo]

Idk who thought shroudfield and infiltrate effects added anything

[jovial juniper]

They are

I remember seeing the psykers with that and not knowing what it meant

[grizzled sierra]

[wind spruce]

Lmao I've never noticed this

Could be the graphics options I'm subjected to 🥲

[wind spruce]

I literally am a saint

Saint TheOrc

[vestal fulcrum]

Aspire to such virtue, siblings

[wind spruce]

My righteousness knows no bounds.

[lone wing]

they allow you to see through smoke

[upper sun]

bruh

what the hell is this update

are they gonna force us to play lights out?

[lone wing]

lights out is fine tbh, just be glad it's not vent purge

[upper sun]

Id rather do vent purge

lights out is nice but i cant playe it more than once a week

[grizzled sierra]

Wdym update? Isn't that just a maelstrom? I'd check but I'm stuck at work

[quartz barn]

Lights out is fun tho

[grizzled sierra]

Less so if you got no flashlight on your weapon

[upper sun]

hotfix with an event coming up in 2 days

[quartz barn]

Simply mod a flashlight on your weapon

[grizzled sierra]

Do... Do staves take flashlights

[quartz barn]

I think they can?

Requires a setting that allows anything on every weapon afaik

But is kinda unstable

Also how can you not see when running a staff

[grizzled sierra]

I haven't run lights out on psyker yet, do they emit light or something? XD

[potent echo]

owo hotfix

what the hell hiding in the dark

[lone wing]

i put a flashlight on a stave and it instantly crashed my game when i clicked it

[potent echo]

new enemy?

[upper sun]

new boss?

maybe its power outage so we cant see the unfinished textures

[quartz barn]

Daemonhost 2

[lone wing]

electric boogaloo (it hunts down everyone not just who triggered it)

[quartz barn]

Floats around so you have time your passage to avoid

[frigid surge]

why are smite psykers so "hated"?

[jovial juniper]

Either "pause" the game but takes forever to kill stuff

One button andy

Doesn't know the basics of melee

[frigid surge]

as far as i understadnd smite, it is more like a stun for enemys. but instead of killing those, my mates stop doing anything and just look.

[jovial juniper]

Yeah, why stun when you can kill

[frigid surge]

cuz its free damage?

[jovial juniper]

And as a psyker you can kill

[frigid surge]

smite doenst do enouigh dmg, at least for my lvl 17

[lone wing]

assail better

[jovial juniper]

Get assail

See?

[frigid surge]

i have a buld with assail and i like it, but its so .. random

[lone wing]

from personal use, smite is boring to use

[jovial juniper]

Just pay attention to your peril

[frigid surge]

peril managtment isnt my problem.

[jovial juniper]

Good

Get assail

[frigid surge]

and with what ability?

better f? shield? i never saw one using the shiield till now) or the buff ?

[jovial juniper]

Venting Shriek is very strong

Build peril with assail

And when around 82% you shriek

[lone wing]

shriek + assail fucks

[frigid surge]

why82? wich you dont reach exactly, cuz every assail shot does 10 peril

[jovial juniper]

If you have the modifier that applies soulblaze you'll clean everything that isn't carapace

[jovial juniper]

You have 10 shards

And aimed shots are 20

[frigid surge]

aimed shots?

is that what rmb is?

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[frigid surge]

oh, okay xD

[jovial juniper]

It's for long distances or precise shots

[frigid surge]

does that mean it is good or meh?

[lone wing]

is good

[frigid surge]

btw, what is the range of assail? it seems headbuster has the highest range, but im not sure

[lone wing]

i basically use assail as my primary weapon because of how fast shards regen

that plus shriek is just free horde clear

[frigid surge]

yeah, you have alomot all shards back by the time you vent

[lone wing]

force sword for close up horde clear, or if im feeling fancy ill grab the duelling sword

[frigid surge]

i saw a few poeple suggest the duelling sword for psyker, can you explain why?

[lone wing]

high weakspot damage

3-4 shot crushers, sometimes 2 if you have the right blessings

ragers die in one

mutants die in one or 2

[frigid surge]

i dont have blessings available

[lone wing]

shreds bosses

[jovial juniper]

Just focus on getting to level 30 or at least a keystone

[frigid surge]

any way to level fast/er?

[lone wing]

exp curios

[frigid surge]

what?

[lone wing]

experience curios

can stack to like +45% or something

[frigid surge]

excuse me, i know what exp means, but what is curios?

[lone wing]

the 3 slots at the bottom of you gear screen that are locked for a bit then unlock as you level. you should have at least one by now

[frigid surge]

all i have is green and some blue stuff.

[lone wing]

all you need, just pay hadron a visit and replace something with +exp%

dont even have to upgrade it

[wind spruce]

25... perfectionist my ASS

[wind spruce]

Range of LMB assail is about 30m if I remember correctly

[frigid surge]

btw, the warp resistance from the sword and staff, do they count for the blitz too?

[wind spruce]

You've gotta keep your reticle on top of the enemies even after you've fired and it will home in on them

[wind spruce]

No, only effects how much peril generated when you use your force sword special

[jovial juniper]

Damn your ass also suffers

dont pick Perfectionism

[frigid surge]

hm... which perk should i choose an the end of the tree for assail?

[wind spruce]

Always take ethereal shards (projectiles from assail pierce additional targets)

Ohh you mean what keystone

[frigid surge]

yeah, warpsiphon, destroy destiny or empower psy

[wind spruce]

All of them help assail. Disrupt Destiny is the best for it tho

[frigid surge]

more stacks or longer duration?

[wind spruce]

Longer duration

[jovial juniper]

L Influence

[frigid surge]

so, why not more stacks?

[wind spruce]

It's too hard to maintain them

[jovial juniper]

Yup

[wind spruce]

You usually end up with less than 15 stacks for most of the mission, defeating the purpose of taking it over longer duration

[frigid surge]

good to know

[jovial juniper]

Maintaining Perfectionism requires a lot of luck

And high intensity

And some maps

Then you get some down time and you can kiss goodbye to your stacks

[frigid surge]

okay. and if i want to play out my sith fantasy and use smite (wich i really like cuz of the mass stun), wich one is good for it?

[jovial juniper]

Warp Syphon or Empowered Psyonics

With Warp Syphon you focus on shrieking a lot

With EP you buff the smite

Still shriek though

[frigid surge]

why?

[upper sun]

warp siphon gives you cooldown

[frigid surge]

it does?

[upper sun]

ye

thats the main thing it does

[frigid surge]

oh yeah, it does nvm xD

[upper sun]

everytthing else is extra

[jovial juniper]

And it has a modifier that interacts with soulblaze

[frigid surge]

i like soulblaze

any way to better spread it?

[jovial juniper]

Top left, Perilous Combustion

[frigid surge]

have it

wildfire too

[jovial juniper]

And then there's the Purgatus Staff

[frigid surge]

yeah, i know about that staff, i tried it... but i dont know, its kind of lack something

[jovial juniper]

It lacks stats at low level

[frigid surge]

that might be it

[jovial juniper]

You want 76 burn iirc

[frigid surge]

if have... 18?

does soulblaze get better with a better staff?

[burnt gazelle]

it increases max stacks the weapon can apply iirc

[frigid surge]

15 stacks isnt the max?

[burnt gazelle]

15 is the max the staff can apply, but your staff has a burn stat which limits you

[upper sun]

global max is 31 stacks from any source

[burnt gazelle]

so e.g. my 75% burn purgatus can apply a max of 14 stacks

if it has 76% that would be 15 stacks

[upper sun]

15 can be the max applied from a purge staff if it has 76

[burnt gazelle]

and then you can apply more burn on top of that via perilous combustion or shriek

[upper sun]

or get another psyker with purge

[jovial juniper]

So save your materials and dockets for level 30 shopping

[frigid surge]

my staff can apply 15 stacks. are you sure?

[burnt gazelle]

Yes, I literally have a 75% purgatus

[upper sun]

click v on the staff

[frigid surge]

my staff hase maybe half of it

[little hare]

Has anyone here gotten the desk job psyker line?

[upper sun]

the what now

[left basin]

yes beloved i dropped off the kids and got the detergent

no beloved i didn't forget

yes beloved she's totally a bitch

[stiff falcon]

@upper sun

[jovial juniper]

Beloved, I don't like working overtime

[upper sun]

real

[little hare]

Something like “No beloved I don’t want this job anymore, I want a different job maybe one with a chair…and a desk.”

[mossy oyster]

damn ive been running that voice pack this entire time never heard it once

[grizzled sierra]

That particular psyker has already lost it, and it's but a matter of time until they splode

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/aneurysm-hhhhomeboyyyy-kings-dark-tidings-saga-by-kel-kade-reaperleviathan-head-explode-gif-21578105

[radiant frigate]

yes beloved, hiding is cheating

[mossy oyster]

I ALWAYS WIN HIDE AND SEEK

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah went from min to max height, now I need to punch down

[grizzled sierra]

Same

It's neat because now I can hit plagryn heads and BoN weak spots easier

[stiff falcon]

@upper sun three t4 blessings in my melk shop today

[mossy oyster]

[grizzled sierra]

[upper sun]

and u have no melkbucks

[jovial juniper]

Servitor sells 500 surge staves
"I hope I served you well"

[upper sun]

me buying rashad, surges, and thammers

[spark birch]

I come with a question

Is there a way to get my surge staff to reliably one tap gunners?

[upper sun]

flak elite

[spark birch]

Aight

[upper sun]

with like 5 warp charges you can do it with no crits

staff should also have high damage

[spark birch]

Cause my current build relies on praying for crits. Which the surge staff does fairly frequently, but still id rather not bank my survival on a coin flip

[upper sun]

i dont wanna crush your hopes man

but

i spent like 10 mil on surges

i have never had anything with t4 flak and t4 elite+t4nexus

[spark birch]

Chief I've been here since day one, lol... I know the pain, trust me

[upper sun]

its my white whale....

[spark birch]

My best rolled weapon is an Illisi

And I fucking hate the illisi

Either I saw that or the warp voices are getting to me

[lone fern]

is it worth upgrading?

compared to this one

[upper sun]

this one is pretty much perfect

dont get fooled by the warp resist i legit can not notice the difference between 50 and 80

[spark birch]

Quell speed is wayyyyy more worth your time than warp resist ngl

[lone fern]

do base modifiers increase after upgrades?

[spark birch]

I... Never checked, but I'm pretty sure they don't

You just get the extra passives and blessings

[upper sun]

you will be able to improve them after the crafting update

[spark birch]

Crafting update? I've been away from the community for a while, did I miss something?

[upper sun]

2 months 🫡

[spark birch]

Shoot

What's coming?

I mean I assume a crafting update will update the crafting system

But like, what's happening?

[upper sun]

locks are removed

and so is the blessing book

your earned blessing are turned into xp points in a weapon family

the more xp you have with a weapon the higher level blessings you can equip to it

[spark birch]

...will this be retroactive?

[upper sun]

yes

[spark birch]

Or am I gonna have to reroll every blessing

Sick

[upper sun]

but your current gear stays the same

[spark birch]

Sick

[upper sun]

so if you already unlocked all the blessings for say voidstrike you can use those points for the blessings you want i am assuming

[spark birch]

I would hope so

[upper sun]

they're gonna release another QnA soon

so that should help

[spark birch]

As long as I don't have to regrind things I already have y'know?

[upper sun]

ye

ive gone a further than that and reblessed some bricks i had so i can change the perks freely after the update

[lethal lagoon]

You'll only get 5/20 mastery levels for having all the blessings unlocked

Mark my words

[upper sun]

no

ur coping

[lethal lagoon]

Ur coping

[spark birch]

Bolt pistol to the head.

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

because you know i have more blessing than u

[lethal lagoon]

Help mods, violence.

[spark birch]

Brotha don't say that shit in the psyker chat that's the one place you might actually materialize it

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

ur not even level 30 yet

[lethal lagoon]

Across all 4 characters, hmm

Are you grinding blessings on all 4?

[upper sun]

yes

[lethal lagoon]

Then yeah probably

[spark birch]

I only have blessings on characters they're relevant for

I do not give a shit about lasgun blessings on my psyker

[lethal lagoon]

Surely there won't be penances for leveling mastery on weapons you hate

[upper sun]

i have all of them

[lethal lagoon]

Enjoy your level 5/20 mastery lasgun

You earned it bud

[spark birch]

The irony of that statement is that my best psyker build, comically good, is a laspistol scriers gaze psyker

[upper sun]

enjoy your 0/100 recon

[lethal lagoon]

I don't know what that means, but I'm sure I'll enjoy all 100 levels

[spark birch]

I wonder

If this update will also have

Y'know

[upper sun]

i garentee you even unlocking 80% of t4s will get you all the good blessings in the update

[spark birch]

The vermintide red weapons

[upper sun]

red weapons with an extra perk

[lethal lagoon]

What do you wanna bet.

[mossy oyster]

finally stamina, stamina regen, and block efficiency on my melee weapons

no curios needed

[upper sun]

loser has to level a weapon of the winners choosing and play a full game with it

[spark birch]

I know vermintide was like, magical relics n stuff. But I figure if Darktide did it, it would be Moebian Steel weapons. My ass was coping so hard I thought the new mission to rediscover "true" moebian steel was a precursor to the release of this games version of legendary weapons.

[lethal lagoon]

I guess if you lose, you'll have plenty of levels

So that works.

[upper sun]

real

[lethal lagoon]

Alright, my bet is all blessings unlocked levels your mastery to 9 or less, are you willing to take 11 or more? And 10 will be a free space.

[spark birch]

Just run a +3 stamina curio, you'll literally never be unable to res someone save for sheer knock back effects

[mossy oyster]

its not about collecting all blessings its the dopamine of randomly rolling a T4 blessing you dont have or seeing melk with one

itemization will remove that awful RNG gambling dopamine feeling

which is good

but some people are just insane yknow

(like me)

[upper sun]

i think darktide gave us a gambling addiction

[lethal lagoon]

TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT

[upper sun]

ill take it

[lethal lagoon]

Nisu

[spark birch]

Are you a Tau fan, Atlas?

[lethal lagoon]

Not much of a warhammer dude

[spark birch]

Ah

Y'know, same tbh

The only reason I know 40k exists right

[upper sun]

tau sucks

[spark birch]

I was a generic fantasy slop fan, looking for a new fantasy game and found Vermintide.

[lethal lagoon]

The lore is a bit too anime for me but without enough

[upper sun]

eldari suck

[spark birch]

...and that was the descent into madness..

[upper sun]

i hate eldari so much its unreal

90% of eldar stories are "we tried to warn humans about aliens/chaos/blah blah we got angry they couldnt understand us so we attacked them"

[spark birch]

Pushes up glasses Don't you mean Aeldari?

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

i dont even care

[spark birch]

True chadgryn moment

....so wait

If itemization removes RNG

[upper sun]

yes

darktide is saved

[spark birch]

What will we spend our dockets on if not two thousand surge staves?

[upper sun]

nothing

we finally become free to enjoy the game

[restive ice]

foot kisses for hallowette

[spark birch]

Oh right, here's my current surge staff

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/i-kneel-kneel-kneeling-avgn-angry-videogame-nerd-gif-25509746

if it gets the vestures 20% off

whatever works

[spark birch]

Excuse the neanderthal phone picture

[jovial juniper]

On the 379 bricked staff

[mossy oyster]

but wouldnt that mean we can "un-brick" things then

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

Ooo that quell, what a shame

[spark birch]

Still a p good staff tbh

[lethal lagoon]

[spark birch]

Surge base quell doesn't seem too bad

[lethal lagoon]

If we are talking about efficent edging, it's kinda problematic

[spark birch]

It's

Actually fine

Barely gotta hold the quell for a second

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

I have like 30 surge staves

i wonder which one ill end up using

[mossy oyster]

voidstrike

[upper sun]

no

[spark birch]

All my homies hate voidstrike

[mossy oyster]

sorry you dont have flurry surge voidstrike

https://tenor.com/view/excited-gif-5122764975256045485

best shit ever

[upper sun]

oh i already have one ready for the update

[mossy oyster]

I have an excuse ok

you just have to see my void then you'll understand

[spark birch]

Reject voidtrike

Reject purgatus

Embrace trauma

[mossy oyster]

arguably more boring than voidstrike but I did just spec a trauma to do nexus blazing

[restive ice]

embrace mk x heavy laspistol

[mossy oyster]

will test that out later

[upper sun]

1 NOTHING WRONG WITH MY PRICES

[spark birch]

I just want explosions

[upper galleon]

no thanks I got enough of that growing up

[spark birch]

Same bruh that's why I take it out on heretics

[manic river]

What do I do with each Void staff

I already have a third one with Surge/Crit chance

[upper galleon]

you want surge blessing

[restive ice]

t4 terrifying barrage to annoy the people who inspect gear

[manic river]

I don't need surge I did not like it either

[upper galleon]

then nexus if you aren't going true aim, if you go true aim go flurry

lol what

surge is the best blessing

makes your crits like

150% better

and you can stagger bosses

[potent echo]

2GB hotfix = new enemy NEW CLASS

[upper galleon]

and it interacts great with true aim since it cleaves

[mossy oyster]

I refuse to reject the rolls my beloved has bestowed upon me

but I do understand why you'd wanna reject these

[manic river]

I said I don't need another surge

[upper galleon]

tbh, i wouldn't go crit chance perk

not worth the 5% more chance when you can get true aim, and I believe there is BPs to hit with armor damage

i forgot which specific ones

[manic river]

True aim for primary void surge?

for what?

[mossy oyster]

double shot

guaranteed critical

so surge will just proc

[restive ice]

surge blessing activates on crit
+
true aim givrs a source of guaranteed crits

[mossy oyster]

thats what i said noob

[manic river]

Isn't true aim for weakspots

if I'm not wrong I just don't see the appeal on using True aim for surge

[restive ice]

are you not aiming for weakspots with void

[manic river]

I don't use primary

Can't see well with the giant ball in middle

[restive ice]

secondary voidstrike attacks also hit weakspots

you just put it vaguely head level

[restive ice]

wait I think I read that backwards
do you not use the charged up attack

[manic river]

[grizzled sierra]

Grug big believer that not everything has to be perfect
Just neat if is

[mossy oyster]

perfection is what you make it grug

the game tells me this is 379 but look at this

[wind spruce]

Rounding errors

[mossy oyster]

yea think someone said it was probably literally like

379.44

think it was in soyker chat too

[wind spruce]

Yeah

[eager token]

can i macro blitz cancelling

i want to become the sweaty psyker

[grizzled sierra]

Grug already good with solid weapon ~370

Maybe even 360

[mossy oyster]

funny enough weapons that arent 380

[grizzled sierra]

If rolls good

[mossy oyster]

usually have better stat rolls than 380

case and point

[grizzled sierra]

Grug meet many angry people in this game

Grug feel like they should be less serious

[upper galleon]

what to do with this?

swapping stam out for?

[half plover]

Crit chance?

[mossy oyster]

armor / maniacs or even crit chance tbh

[upper galleon]

i thought carapace

[upper galleon]

no

i'm going true aim

[mossy oyster]

carapace helps considering that all the carapace armor likes to be on the head

[grizzled sierra]

True aim doesn't need crit chance? Good to know

[upper galleon]

yea it's literally self feeding

if it behaves like the headhunter blessing

the heads you cleave through will just tick the talent back up again

[hollow junco]

find the error

[mossy oyster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfAG_bqZXgY

[upper galleon]

changing my psyker to tallest height because i noticed if i aim up to a crushers head, sometimes the 2nd orb will miss cause the crusher gets staggered

[grizzled sierra]

I think I wanna try purg staff
I hear good things about it. And knowinh how good burn is from the shout... Neat

[eager token]

purg doesn’t really need shout/flames imo

but it’s the best option maybe

[grizzled sierra]

it adds more stacks so

why not

can never have enough fire

[eager token]

they cap tho

[grizzled sierra]

the staff has its own cap

the shout adds on top of that iirc

[eager token]

i thought only the elite burn didn’t cap

are they separate

[grizzled sierra]

i just vomit out what i hear

[eager token]

regardless it feels like overkill to me

wall is prob more useful but it’s kinda just preference

[upper galleon]

venting shriek can go past the cap but that's basically it

it's more for the fun

[strong gulch]

Soulblaze damage scales exponentially. #psyker-class message

Purg can go up to 15/16 stacks. Full creeping flames can add 6 on top of that.

PC has no SB cap outside of the global limit.

[fresh reef]

some games you just aren't fated to win lol

[strong gulch]

That being said, purg is the better candidate for double wall EP BB.

[leaden onyx]

who is the "beloved"

[wide dome]

possibly the emperor

[broken carbon]

the psyker thinks its the emperor, but it could be a myriad of things
a daemon attempting to lure the psyker into chaos, an imperial daemon/saint, an actual shard of the emperor

[wide dome]

the emperor is a psychic beacon for humans, so its not far-fetched to think that its the emperor

[brazen rampart]

It's the general consensus that the Beloved is the Emperor.

[broken carbon]

it really is actually

there are a million worlds the imperium controls

trillions if not quadrillions of people

many of them are psykers

many of them are also in constant fights

the emperor is already barely holding on due to having to keep the webway closed on terra, his immense pain from the golden throne, keeping the astronomicon lit

[queen fog]

Pain? I don’t even think he can feel anymore

[brazen rampart]

I wouldn't say barely.

[broken carbon]

why

[queen fog]

At least, not physically

[brazen rampart]

Every psyker that is taken and fed to him draws the fragments of his soul closer together.

The closer these fragments are, the more coherent his attention span becomes.

[broken carbon]

prettysure the golden throne's pain isnt only physical pain

[queen fog]

That’s why I said the sentence

To clarify which pain I meant

[broken carbon]

fair

[brazen rampart]

Is He suffering? Yes. Is He struggling? Also yes. But barely? Doubt it.

[broken carbon]

even then, do you really think he's going to be taking time of his own incredibly valuable attention to speak to a psyker on atoma? he has far more important things to tend to

i pesonally hope its an imperial daemon

we need more of them

[brazen rampart]

A word of wisdom spread here and there does more against the war on chaos than you might think.

Remember, the Emperor is eternally benevolent to His subjects. To allow them to suffer because He has "more important things to worry about" goes against His principles.

[broken carbon]

its more than a word of wisdom. the psyker consistently is speaking to his beloved

[broken carbon]

?!?!?!

he is not a good person

[midnight jolt]

The emperor is dead, long live the emperor 😂

[brazen rampart]

Benevolence does not equate to being a "good person."

[broken carbon]

the emperor does NOT give a fuck about his people

he only cares about his grand plan

[brazen rampart]

And who is going to make this plan happen?

The very subjects He guides.

[wide dome]

good person? my brother in christ this is the warhammer 40k universe

there are no good people, you have bad and less bad

[broken carbon]

yes i know that

the emperor isnt eternally benevolent though

he is not well meaning

he may be in some aspects

but as a whole he is willing to sacrifice billions

[brazen rampart]

A necessary evil.

[broken carbon]

he was a terrible father to his 18 (and likely the other 2 as well) sons

[brazen rampart]

It's a call that has to be made often. In the long run, damning millions could save billions.

[broken carbon]

if you think in particular, angron. He ripped angron out of his final stand, refused to aid his people, and let them die

he didnt take his nails out

he decided it would be best to let him be permanently enraged and burn himself out

than to save him

[brazen rampart]

I believe blaming solely the Emperor for the Primarchs falling to chaos is a big claim.

[leaden onyx]

people forget he had an empire to run and stuff to do beside his children

[brazen rampart]

Look at Magnus. He was told his powers were dangerous. He still listened to the voices that spoke to him from beyond the veil, and he wound up damning himself.

Perturabo and Kurze were just wimps.

[broken carbon]

was magnus an idiot? yes, but the emperor never told any of his sons about his plan

he abandoned them to the crusade and fucked off to sit on the throne

[brazen rampart]

You look at Kurze and compare him to Sanguinius. The two have essentially the same abilities. Kurze chose to be depressed and became a traitor, while Sanguinius became a martyr to force the Emperor's hand.

[broken carbon]

which directly led to magnus breaking the webway

[broken carbon]

the primarchs are also at fault

i never said otherwise

some of the primarchs had a choice

some did not

some were forced, some were indirectly pushed by the emperor

[mossy oyster]

i read about sanguinius that guy was sick

sucks to be a blood angel though

[upper sun]

rip sangui he was a real one

i have no idea why his wings could open warp portals but very cool

[mossy oyster]

cause he was him

[midnight jolt]

+25% maniacs or flak?

[strong gulch]

flak

Flak is the anchor perk. You could do flak + maniac/ unyeilding tho. Purg does want crits, but it has nexus and the other two perk are worthy contenders. Crit chance is universal tho.

[upper sun]

ye flak crit is the best for purge imo

maniac only gives you dreg ragers and muties

most other enemies have flak as a base armor type despite being something else elswhere

[full wing]

I have a similar purg staff but 60% damage and 78%+ all other stats

Should i keep aiming for higher damage or it doesnt matter too much for Purg? Thanks!

[grizzled sierra]

i do kinda wanna try purg
whenever i run with a good purg psyker hordes dont pose much of a threat

[strong gulch]

And trapper running up, but still crit chance is universal. I personally opt for flak + unyeilding because boss damage has been lacking in my games lately.

[grizzled sierra]

the burn stacks not pulling their weight as well on bosses?

[upper sun]

thats perfect for surge

err purge

[strong gulch]

God rolled purg has damage as dump.

[upper sun]

purge and flamer dont need damage because it just effects the lmb stagger not the channel attack

[full wing]

Thanks guys appreciate the replies

[grizzled sierra]

Prine really doesnt like psykers does she

[upper sun]

she likes my enforcer psyker

[grizzled sierra]

she adores my ogryn fsr

[strong gulch]

SB has decent boss dps for psykers; especially if you have rending on ur melee. You can apply SB stacks, switch to melee for uncanny stacks, then switch to purge every so often to refresh. SB stacks drop off one at a time. You can also just spew fire to handle the horde while also cotnributing to boss dps while other focus on the boss.

[grizzled sierra]

i really should try purg sometime then

seems like neat utility

[strong gulch]

Outside of guns, I've had the biggest boss dps with my EP BB, purg, and flesh tearer + uncanny knife build.

[grizzled sierra]

i cannot decipher those

[strong gulch]

example

[grizzled sierra]

purg takes flurry?

[strong gulch]

EP = empowered psionics (keystone)
BB = brain rupture (ability; formerly known as brain burst

[grizzled sierra]

ah i see

[mossy oyster]

can spam right click more

and faster

[grizzled sierra]

fair enough

[strong gulch]

Flak + crit chance / unyeilding / maniac

nexus + flurry

[grizzled sierra]

purg doesnt build up peril all that fast afaikl so spamming it more seems to make sense to me

[strong gulch]

Manic is fine but there are other options that are better.

Compared to trauma or surge staff, purg has very slow peril gen.

[full wing]

[full wing]

Never tried this, ill have to try it out

I used to just Purg x2 + Shriek then BB away but it feels ultra slow at times

[broken carbon]

could likely get more with venting shriek

an extra 6 stacks onto the boss

gives you 22 stacks of soulblaze with rending

[strong gulch]

I mean valid. If you have a competent vet, even upgraded BB can feel in meh.

[grizzled sierra]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bb9ee95-0b68-43d7-abd0-05c8aae4258e/crit-psyker

[strong gulch]

This is my purg build. I favor creeping flames over double was for EP BB.

[grizzled sierra]

hows this?

hmm

[strong gulch]

I take wildfire because I had a point left and I already took the toughness nodes. Change that if you want.

[strong gulch]

How about this? It keeps the vision of your build but it now has PC (perilous combustion).

Peril gen is already low, so you can take essence harvest.

[weary crane]

The shield and crit does enough toughness regen

With my build you can pretty much have a shield down constantly

[broken carbon]

i’d also recommend swapping in fire reborn for psychic vampire

[weary crane]

🤨

[strong gulch]

Agreed tbh

Even on purg, they are not too different. SB HAS to be up too.

[broken carbon]

10% for only your kills

4% for anyone’s kills

much more consistent

[weary crane]

Doesn't work like that

[broken carbon]

yes it does

[broken carbon]

only your soulblaze kills*

much more prerequisite

[strong gulch]

A teammate can kill and enemy with SB and you still can get the WC stack

[weary crane]

Any enemies with your soulblaze applied with count towards it

[broken carbon]

honestly with warp siphon you’re gonna have max warp charges 90% of the time with either option

[strong gulch]

BUT the 4% still ends up being more consistent

[weary crane]

Plus, you have to be in coherency to get the buff

[broken carbon]

oh, didn’t know

but still

[weary crane]

Purg is built for in firereborn

[broken carbon]

problem is it still isn’t that good

[strong gulch]

On purg, it's really either or. Coin flip and be done with it. Just keep up the SB tho. This last part is where I take issue with in fire reborn.

[weary crane]

I'm pretty sure it applies to ally kills on soulblaze but idk

[strong gulch]

Yip. Any kills on soulblaze. The thing I can never remember is if you have to apply the SB.

[broken carbon]

this also makes me wonder how soulblaze works with two psykers

if i inflict one stack of soulblaze onto an enemy

are all the stacks turned into mine?

as in, an enemy has 15 stacks of blaze from another psyker, and i puff it once, will my uncanny stacks effect all of the stacks on it?

will it effect all stacks?

[strong gulch]

It's been answered multiple times, but I have NEVER retained the answer.

[broken carbon]

lmfao

[strong gulch]

@wind spruce @lethal lagoon @spice veldt Do either of you know if you have to be the one to apply SB to get warp charges from In Fire Reborn? Can another psyker apply SB then you can get charges? I can't remember.

[wind spruce]

I haven't gotten around to testing this yet

[strong gulch]

fork

[strong gulch]

Gotcha. Thanks tho.

[broken carbon]

.

[wind spruce]

Hypothetically you could just do nothing in a game with another psyekr and see if you gain warp charges

[strong gulch]

troll

[wind spruce]

Or take a build which applies zero soulblaze but has the talent

[strong gulch]

The SB will take on blessings dynamically. So you have to keep you melee out.

[wind spruce]

You won't be losing that much if you run like surge shield warp charges with no perilous

[broken carbon]

right

i know that

but does one stack turn all of the previous stacks into mine

[wind spruce]

No, first psyker to apply soulblaze "owns" it

[broken carbon]

ah

okay

thank u

[strong gulch]

I know damage wise, whoever the 1st player applies SB, that is who has ownership. IDK if that translates or impact In Fire Reborn.

This is why wildfire can be such a troll talent when you have multple psykers.

[wind spruce]

I'd run a game to test it now but I'm on holidays

[strong gulch]

Enjoy your holiday!

[wind spruce]

Thanks!

[grizzled sierra]

i bewlieve

that the enemy highlighting of DD negatively impacted my ability to play well

[long wharf]

Every psyker with IFR gets the proc

Any spoilers on what the new secret enemy is?

[broken carbon]

apparently you can play it with the solo play mod, and its ||Rinda, the surviving twin from the fight||

||because at the end of the fight her finger twitches||

[long wharf]

Okay thanks

[strong gulch]

I will try to remember. 🙏

Another update. Another tooltip borked.

[upper sun]

this is kino