psyker-class

[rich jolt]

Finding meaning in only work is stupid and so is finding only meaning in your own endeavors

It needs to be a mix

[nocturne dust]

I think this is arrogant and disrespectful. To claim I simply 'do not know the truth' is an awful argument.

[ornate hamlet]

Speaking of work

[rich jolt]

Theres not really any argument to be made is the problem

[ornate hamlet]

I actually am very satisfied working in food delivery when it comes to the emotional part

[rich jolt]

Its like saying the sky is blue and someone else chimes in saying its green

[ornate hamlet]

I consider myself to be someone who brings food to hungry people when they need it

I think it's a noble thing to do, even for money

[nocturne dust]

There is though? You're literally arguing it right there.

[rich jolt]

And im telling you the truth?

[ornate hamlet]

I greet people, chat with them a bit, and being in the same restaurant helps me see the same people multiple times

[rich jolt]

And youre saying im wrong?

[nocturne dust]

You claim meaning from helping others and overcoming hardship, but that is meaning all your own. Others needn't abide by it.

[rich jolt]

They dont need to but they wont live a full life

[ornate hamlet]

I think it makes their experience better when they don't get greeted by some dude in wage slave mode acting like he's getting whipped to do a shitty job

[nocturne dust]

That's what you claim. And you're wrong. That's the argument.

[ornate hamlet]

It can be shitty and by God I've felt like twisting the neck of some people in traffic

But ultimately, making people a little bit happier feels great

[lethal lagoon]

No, I must feel superior and you miserable

[ornate hamlet]

And I get paid for it

And I ride a motorcycle

[rich jolt]

We can go around and both point fingers at the wrong party all we want all day and it wont go anywhere

[ornate hamlet]

Win-win-win

[lethal lagoon]

( like when doordash drivers wave back)

[rich jolt]

Clearly you don't understand me and vice versa

So imma watch YouTube

[ornate hamlet]

Clearly neither of you owns and air fryer

Actually I also don't

Shitass device

[nocturne dust]

I do understand you, I myself find enjoyment in helping others. But that doesn't mean others have to, should, or will do the same.

[lethal lagoon]

I have what air fryers were before they were made into a marketing gimmick, toaster oven with convection mode.

[ornate hamlet]

Stop frying things and use your fucking oven

[rich jolt]

Fuck you say?

[ornate hamlet]

NINJA FORTNITE NINJA FORTNITE NINJA FORTNITE NINJA FORTNITE

[rich jolt]

Its not so much helping as it is accepting your nature as a human being

[lethal lagoon]

Non-stick

[rich jolt]

Not mine

Dont use it

[lethal lagoon]

It's so interesting how many products we have that people are just like "meh, I'll be fine and not get cancer"

[rich jolt]

So many things seem to give cancer i feel like most people ignore when something will give it to you nowadays

Your body can straight up do it for no reason

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, the unfortunate part is it makes it harder to understand what you HAVE to avoid.

[rich jolt]

Idc if my microwave gives it to me

[lethal lagoon]

Sure, but it can do it less or worse.

Plus we all have microplastics in our balls

I dunno what that was

[nocturne dust]

You see it as an integral part of being human, I disagree. It is not so integral, not even close, and believing it to be the highest fulfillment of human life is ignoring all the evidence to the contrary, that there are those who enjoy life as it is, that there are those who enjoy hurting others. Regardless of what you make of those people, they exist and there are plenty of them.

[ornate hamlet]

if the microplastics are stored in the balls

[rich jolt]

One step closer to becoming a synthetic being

[ornate hamlet]

then where is the pee

[lethal lagoon]

They are.

In the micrplastics

[ornate hamlet]

oh

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-cat-cute-big-eyes-damn-gif-14589812

[lethal lagoon]

That's not a meme

[nocturne dust]

Stored in the brain, that's why women also pee

[lethal lagoon]

Literally microplastics in the balls

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-man-yummers-get-this-man-a-yummers-gif-26537130

[rich jolt]

Were going in circles. You can go find fulfillment in your hut devoid of human company through years of inaction and refusal to better ones self. Ill enjoy living a full life

I do hope you come around to my perspective

[nocturne dust]

Given your statement, you haven't read anything I wrote so it does seem we are going in circles.

[rich jolt]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HOqLKVZ3Sbg&pp=ygULNTAwIHl1bW1lcnM%3D

[rich jolt]

I have

Ive seen

Ive understood

And i believe youre wrong

In everything youve said

[nocturne dust]

Then why are you saying 'you can go find fulfillment in your hut devoid of human company'?

[flint aspen]

surge staff is funny

[rich jolt]

I know you said you enjoy helping others like i do

Im just being a jackass

[nocturne dust]

How wude.

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-2813086212540319582

[rich jolt]

Such a horrendous mod

I like it quite a bit

[nocturne dust]

See, every time I pick up the Surge I just think 'why am I not using void'

The voidstrike has tainted my brain

[rich jolt]

Its two flavors of the same role

I prefer surge more but voidstrike kinda just does its job and more

[nocturne dust]

I mean, yeah, my main issue is that it feels like surge has 0 advantages as long as you can aim

[flint aspen]

all its missing is a chance that instead of blowing up into chunks, you reduce their bodies to a mere skeleton

[ornate hamlet]

like the FEAR railgun

[flint aspen]

easy servoskull supply

[rich jolt]

Im wondering why darktide staves dont have different primary fires like vermentide. Maybe if we ever get different marks that could be a way to give staves different attacks

[flint aspen]

aside from purgatus

[rich jolt]

Yeah

[flint aspen]

yes, like the fear railgun

[nocturne dust]

Honestly, the one staff that has a different primary, purge, I wish had the spam bolts of the others

[rich jolt]

The non charge feels useless

The balls would be much more useful

[flint aspen]

its only good for pushing off enemies

[nocturne dust]

I don't think it's good for pushing off enemies, even

[rich jolt]

Yeah no it doesn't have great stagger

[nocturne dust]

Just use a melee and push, lol

[rich jolt]

It sorta just tickles them

[nocturne dust]

It's like the staff special, lol.

[cosmic sigil]

It kinda does. And you use it to apply sb stacks quickly.

[rich jolt]

Or you could just dodge backwards and charge

Or melee

Or run shriek

Or push then charge

Or run electric shield

[cosmic sigil]

Using purga without shriek and uncanny abuse is sad

[nocturne dust]

I use purge without shriek

[cosmic sigil]

Sadge

[nocturne dust]

It's fine

[rich jolt]

Purge bubble is the way brother

Join us

[nocturne dust]

Actually it's kinda better with bubble, you're actually covering flaws in your build that way rather than just all soulfire all the time

[cosmic sigil]

You want to trap me inside the bubble

[nocturne dust]

No, trappers literally can't

😔

[cosmic sigil]

What kind of flaws?

[flint aspen]

I've been taking sortof a liking with the panel shields

seeing a mutant or hound just get bodyblocked by it feels so good

[cosmic sigil]

Because I don't have any problem with my purga build

[rich jolt]

Lack of immediate long range killing bb and assail can do it but sometimes its to stressful

And you need something safer

Bubble does it

[nocturne dust]

Purge has no distance, and sometimes closing the gap isn't possible without abandoning your team or getting shot

[rich jolt]

And allows for safe revives safer melee fights and saving your team

[rich jolt]

Are you not running assail or bb?

[nocturne dust]

I run BB but it ain't doing much crap against shooters

[flint aspen]

my purg build has me using shriek and BB

[rich jolt]

True

[nocturne dust]

I also sometimes use assail, but I like wildfire too much

[flint aspen]

tho I might switch to assali since I don't have EP with it

[cosmic sigil]

Everything long range is covered by bb in my case. Also. I use knife and close the distance.

[flint aspen]

tho with shriek does help with my BB a bit

especially when it comes to monstrosities or crushers

[cosmic sigil]

You can also also use uncanny + deflector on a deimos

[rich jolt]

Assails a great option but youll sacrifice single target

[flint aspen]

or if I want that gunner line dead asap

[rich jolt]

Sadly

[nocturne dust]

BBing a ledge of shooters just isn't viable

I mean you can do it but you'll waste so much time, on auric it'll just spawn a new wave before you're done

[rich jolt]

Exactly why the balls would be so much better on purg

[cosmic sigil]

Well if you shriek often you'll be clearing those shooters as well

[flint aspen]

I'll confess tho

my purg build is the only one that uses shriek

[nocturne dust]

If shriek reaches and you don't have to use it on the ground horde around you

[rich jolt]

[flint aspen]

my surge, trauma and void build uses shields

and then my han solo gunpsyker with the scrier

[nocturne dust]

I rarely use shriek. I don't think I take it out consistently for any of my builds

[flint aspen]

weirdly enough

bubble shield for both void and surge

but I use the two panel shields for trauma

[nocturne dust]

Surge is the staff I would use shriek with, but I don't use surge because voidstrike

[rich jolt]

I never could get behind pannels

[nocturne dust]

It turns out infinite range and more damage and cleave > limited range and less damage and cleave

[rich jolt]

I think its because bubble recharges so fast

Two shields even with the elec just feels

Eh

[nocturne dust]

I prefer bubble because stopping specialists is so meh to me, they should be dead not stunned

[rich jolt]

Id like wall if it did chip damage

Its electric so make it electrocute people

Not stun them

I mean it does do damage

But its not noticeable

[nocturne dust]

Make it electrocute everyone passing through

[flint aspen]

I'd like the bubble shield more if it electrocutes enemies that go past it

[rich jolt]

As long as regular enemies do damage to the shield id be game

[flint aspen]

I guess I like the two panels to not rely too much on bubble

[rich jolt]

Give it longer duration and damage buff too

:)

[nocturne dust]

Make bubble cover entire map

[flint aspen]

then again its weird that I use it with the trauma staff and not, void or surge

[rich jolt]

Wait are you being serious?

I assumed you were joking sorry if im being a dick

[flint aspen]

when was I ever taken seriously

[rich jolt]

Ehhh

[nocturne dust]

Always

I take everything seriously.

[rich jolt]

[ornate abyss]

Best way to do Defy Fate? I heard it was to blast into hordes with voidstrike but is that really reliable way to get it?

[ashen schooner]

just use dd, you'll get it pretty quickly

[strong gulch]

IDK about best, but void does make it easy. Lingering influence and assail also help.

[ornate abyss]

I use assail but I have no idea how to use assail

rn smite is way better

[ornate hamlet]

Equip it and mash the mouse button

[wind spruce]

Can someone check the modifier range for Voidstrike charge time pls

is it [1.9|1.6]?

[strong gulch]

I'll check.

[strong gulch]

Yes. This is correct time for void.

[wind spruce]

tyvm

[barren dome]

does scrier's gaze crit chance linger of only the damaage increase?

[wind spruce]

Imagine if I could remember useful things as well as I remember random darktide stuff

[wind spruce]

only the damage and finesse per second spent in scrier's lingers

the 20% crit and 10% base increase does not linger

[barren dome]

that is a bit annoying

playing around with void + scrier

[wind spruce]

its just not worth it imo

[strong gulch]

Same. Can't remember to make an appointment. I can remember what's bis on x staff for some reason.

[wind spruce]

better off just getting your crit via nexus and or true aim

[wind spruce]

too real

[potent echo]

scrier needs a rework

[wind spruce]

leave my gunker alone

[barren dome]

nexus + surge + gaze feels fine if you use it for melee or just 1 or 2 shots with void. Stacks the bonus to cap or close to it and then you can just ride the linger until it's back up

much more annoying to play than vent though

[wind spruce]

Tbf, I havent tried it since I was a lot worse at the game.

and you'd free up quite a few points not having to traverse across and back from assail to shriek to DD...

[barren dome]

doing this right now, feels very strong.

[wind spruce]

Damn, you could actually pick up solidity without too much cutting

[ornate abyss]

dd? it's so hard this penance

no idea what to do

I am completely clueless

[wind spruce]

lol read my mind, except the one i just built has assail

Cut kinetic flayer though

Theres so many other better options

only 77% damage? bricked.

[fair spruce]

should've included the crit %s

[strong gulch]

BM would be better than KF. Soulstealer too or the toughness node. Could also cut through smite and get MM.

[barren dome]

I kind of like kf with void tbh. Because it cant trigger when the shot kills the target anyway, it ends up killing stuff like crushers that would have barely survived a void shot

then yhou don't have to do a followup

it's not great, but not useless at all imo

[wind spruce]

compared to BM and KF as potato said, tho

or cut anticipation for one of them, all it gives is the extra dodge

[strong gulch]

true

KF needs a rework.

[wind spruce]

only targets elites/specials/monstrosities

solved

[strong gulch]

It was alright pre-talent tree update, but now... meh.

[strong gulch]

Right? Something like that. Even if it had a highest HP priority would be better

[wind spruce]

That'd work for a few weapons but not most, since most projectiles, even if they do hit multiple targets, hit one of them first

So it'd help trauma and the splash zone on void, and thats it I think

surge

[thin finch]

this has to be fact checked by real Imperial citizen about the damage tho

[thin finch]

even before his roles was just to keep the warp stack going

[wind spruce]

Imagine taking bubble OR wall with void

[thin finch]

it was a tool to reduces the hurdle of a bad system , I'm glad the bad system is gone

[thin finch]

I'm taking wall with void because I also have the MK IV

[wind spruce]

I'm taking shriek with void because bubble and wall are for wimps

[thin finch]

I dunno, my weak ass psyker body is quite happy to not witness his 3 and half point of toughness melting after being grazed by a red light

[wind spruce]

Invest in toughness and dodging

This is the one true void build

[thin finch]

I will care for toughness when it will be flat rather than percentage

because as it stands, 5% toughness is less than 5 toughness

[wind spruce]

not if you take more toughness nodes...

[thin finch]

(for curio , I know node are flat 15 )

[flint aspen]

my gun psyker when someone does as far as lightly pat their shoulder

karking dies 1 frame later

not even a transition, just straight up goes death pose

[wind spruce]

This is why I run ~180 toughness and one with the warp on gunker

[thin finch]

That's the neat part, You don't, and I'm not going out of my way to grab them, in fact your build only have one toughness node

and it's mandatory

[wind spruce]

It has two, and a spare point available.

[thin finch]

oh yeah the bottom one too

this is so funny to see btw

The paper on my helmet are stuck in my face in the mini

[flint aspen]

been trying to get as much toughness as possible

then again given how my psyker is like very smol, they're probably as light as a feather

[thin finch]

I think psyker base toughness is 85 ?

[wind spruce]

Just gotta keep practicing that dodge-slide until shooters are borderline irrelevant

[wind spruce]

60

[thin finch]

holy sheit so weak

[wind spruce]

So you're right that most builds will get <5 toughness out of a 5% toughness curio perk

[flint aspen]

literally babby

[thin finch]

you have a mandatory 15 toughness and another one when you pick your final node so most lvl 30 psyker get a least 90 toughness

[flint aspen]

nudge their shoulder and they'll scream in pain

[wind spruce]

Exactly

and more psykers should invest in an extra toughness node imo

[thin finch]

making you go up to 105 and then toughness curio are begining to be a bit worthwhile

but Ima stick with health curio for now

[wind spruce]

should use atleast one toughness curio, imo

[thin finch]

135 if you go out of your way to get all dem nodes

and 184 with 2 curios on top

so how the frick do you get 180 toughness with your gunker build without it being bad

[potent echo]

just dont take WC

easy

if you dont take WC you can get all the toughness nodes

[thin finch]

WC ?

[ornate abyss]

Guys I know I am a bit odd but I simply cannot understand how to do these 2

idk what to aim for while in game, what to do

[potent echo]

dont take the left keystone

[thin finch]

Warp Stack ? yeah obviously

[potent echo]

yuh

[thin finch]

removing one of the +15 keystock reduce me to 160

do you run with 3 toughness curio ?

[potent echo]

2 tough 1 hp

[thin finch]

yeah so it must not be a good build in term of damage versus what it could be

nor toughness regen

I'm curious now if you can share it

[potent echo]

just refer to this #psyker-class message but I dont take assail regen nor quietude

extra tough extra health

[thin finch]

this cannot reach 180 toughness

[potent echo]

????

oh toughness perks too

i think

[thin finch]

I'm mostly talking about this line tbh

[flint aspen]

my han solo gun psyker tough and hp

literally baby

[thin finch]

this is a regular psyker value tbh

[wind spruce]

My gunker runs 120 base toughness with two toughness curios and three perks, thats +47%

So im at like 179

err +49%

[thin finch]

very possible that my toughness curios are **not ** at the biggest toughness possible

[strong gulch]

For defy fate, it's cumulative and does not have to be 1800 second maintained in one mission.

Perilous Focus can be tricky for psyker penances. Open areas are your enemies. Places like hallways and choke points are your friend. Take Battle Meditation and Perilous Combustion talents (near the top). You can do it with guns (columnus), staves (void or purg), or melee (illisi or DS). If you can get a horde alone, you're in a good play to try for it. Enemy density is also your friend.

[flint aspen]

also yes I run with at least 1 wound

because I am not confident with just two wounds

[thin finch]

one wound is enough, just dont die

1 toughness is enough, just don't get hit

[wind spruce]

Basic bitch gunker

[potent echo]

i started to use anticipation and its really nice

[wind spruce]

Chad gunker

[thin finch]

brain burst
why use your brain when the bullet will do

on the topic of gunker, which gun ?

[wind spruce]

You dont really use the brain burst

[wind spruce]

Columnus

[strong gulch]

The weapon recs are just general recs. It likely doesn't have to be those specifically. If you do void, put transfer peril on it for the penance.

[thin finch]

I am sad that the earlier statement was true

[wind spruce]

i like to chuck it on sometimes, but its pretty meh only giving an extra dodge

[strong gulch]

There's a few options that are pretty good on psyker, but columnus is the top pick.

[wind spruce]

accatran las pistol shreds

[flint aspen]

kantrael las pistol here

[wind spruce]

too slow for too little benefit

the biggest issue is that you get less EE procs

accatran shoots so fast you can just stand still while reapers are shooting you in the face

[strong gulch]

EE and mettle

[wind spruce]

eggzachary

[ornate abyss]

perilous focus is so hard

[strong gulch]

It's quite RNG dependent, especially as difficulty and modifiers get lower or less.

[wind spruce]

start spraying with purgatus > pop scriers > hold quell

[strong gulch]

It's more frustrating than hard.

[wind spruce]

penance over

[strong gulch]

pro strat

I did mine with void. Either way, being able to quell to get the last 2 to 4 enemies can be quite helpful. Try what Irosk said tho.

[flint aspen]

I remember when defy fate used to be so much worse

no wait

[jovial juniper]

If you're going Kant Laspistol, pick the Ilas 12, you're going to suffer less

[flint aspen]

its either that or warp battery

warp battery personally hurts me

[strong gulch]

Defy fate is a newer one.

Warp Battery was probably the one that causes the most emotional damage.

I did it when it was easier, but I see the suffering of my siblings.

[flint aspen]

you tell me

I hated that penance so much

10000 degree long knife vs. dog

[ornate abyss]

Well all I have left for psyker is these 2

so that's a good thing I suppose

[flint aspen]

I only need the monstrosity brain burst left

[wind spruce]

I can only assume I did mine with columnus and duelling sword, it just happened without me trying

[potent echo]

yea new patch hordes are thicc

you just press F and melee thats it

i did it with an antax axe lmao

[wind spruce]

Yeah I have to assume people aren't struggling with this on auric+

[unreal tapir]

ive been using force swords for a while because i like their heavy slash for killing mutants. any other good suggestions?

[potent echo]

suggestions for

[unreal tapir]

melee

im pretty attached to voidstrike staff.

[potent echo]

uh force sword is good

[brazen rampart]

Dsmk4, antax axe, dclaw.

[unreal tapir]

also whats up with all the vets i see in aurics now did the meta go back to vet lol

[flint aspen]

deimos and illisi good

obscurus only if you want to meme

and even then

[wind spruce]

duelling sword

It's leagues better than every other option

[unreal tapir]

i used to be super into dueling sword doesnt its special poke 1 tap mutants on weakpoint?

[flint aspen]

if you manage to hit a crit

tho the deimos could do it as well

[wind spruce]

The special staggers but has super low damage, but just a poke in the face will oneshot if you have a maniac perk and DD or Warp charges stacked

And you absolutely should have DD with void

[unreal tapir]

dd?

[wind spruce]

Disrupt destiny

[unreal tapir]

oh yea i do

[wind spruce]

Try this

[unreal tapir]

i dont really like asail after the nerf, using bb tree with chance to proc bb

[wind spruce]

That's a fine swap if you don't like assail

[unreal tapir]

yea ill try it

[wind spruce]

You get psykinetics aura that way, which is the real bonus

[unreal tapir]

which is that?

[wind spruce]

Although idk why people dont like assail, dat shit is still busted

[wind spruce]

5% CDR on elite/special kill, just down and right from BB

[unreal tapir]

yea it is busted i just prefer using staff on stuff

really is the crit one not more valuable with dd

[flint aspen]

am I considered crazy for not running DD with void

[wind spruce]

i mean this one

[unreal tapir]

ohh

[wind spruce]

plus you cant get Prescience (the crit aura) with shriek

or id definitely be taking it for Surge procs on void

[unreal tapir]

how valuable is shriek with the ignite for horde clear? ive always used the shield that blocks specials

[wind spruce]

shriek is insane

[brazen rampart]

Shriek is really good but I don't think it's the be-all end-all of psyker builds like voc is for vet.

[wind spruce]

plus its super valuable for stagger and the peril reduction in emergencies

[wind spruce]

well, yeah, nothing compares to VoC

[unreal tapir]

ill have to give it a try

[wind spruce]

but shriek is defo the best combat ability and it aint close

[brazen rampart]

No. Void without dd is fine. You can fire at head level and decapitate chaff with ease.

[brazen rampart]

This is silly.

[wind spruce]

Nope.

[brazen rampart]

Shriek is just as circumstantial as shield and scriers.

[wind spruce]

Nope.

[brazen rampart]

The thing that makes shriek "broken" is solely its interaction with peril.

[flint aspen]

only reason I don't run with DD for my void is because I need EP for my Brain Burst

[brazen rampart]

That's a good reason.

[unreal tapir]

i like all of them but scriers. shield was cool for setting up chokepoints that our team cant get cced from but i guess it loses a lot of value in aurics since everyone just dodges the pins anyway

[wind spruce]

Oh god, definitely not

Not even close.

[flint aspen]

ability use + EP + brain burst = disgusting damage

helps a lot for monstrosities

[brazen rampart]

Brain burst is great as anti carapace damage, especially with EP. You can use your voidstrike for chaff clear with a clear conscience.

[wind spruce]

The peril reduction is the third best thing about shriek

Running EP brain burst with void is just building for redundancy

[brazen rampart]

🤓

[wind spruce]

Yep, thats you homie

[brazen rampart]

If he wants to use a voidstrike with brain burst, he can do it.

[wind spruce]

no shit

no one said otherwise

[flint aspen]

psyker 🤝 veteran in shouting matches

[brazen rampart]

You don't have to milk 100% efficiency out of every build.

[wind spruce]

Buddy, everyone knows that you can clear with any weapon, keystone, etc, combo

That's besides the point.

[unreal tapir]

is scriers really just for killing monstrosities?

[wind spruce]

Nah scriers is a great damage buff all round

[unreal tapir]

difficult to maintain?

[brazen rampart]

No. It's excellent just being itself.

You can use it for mixed horde clear just as much as boss dps.

[wind spruce]

Nah, just set it and forget it, really

But most staff scriers builds are gimmicks

You want a gun.

[unreal tapir]

yea i prefer voidstaff over guns. i already have a vet to use guns lol

[brazen rampart]

Recon mk7 goes hard with scriers.

[flint aspen]

hold on a minute, do zealots even have the equivalent of shouting in their talent tree stuff

[brazen rampart]

No.

[wind spruce]

yep columnus, recons and las pistols all shred (in that order)

[brazen rampart]

Unless you count chorus.

[wind spruce]

chorus (sort of)

https://outplayed.tv/media/eQO85k

assail voidstrike go BRRRRR

[flint aspen]

I do find it amusing that Savant Psyker had no voicelines when activating Scrier

before FS adds them in an update

meanwhile the other two personalities almost lose their shit when activating it

[potent echo]

creeping and PC go brr

people out there like PC isnt good

[flint aspen]

PC?

[potent echo]

perilous combustion

[flint aspen]

o

[potent echo]

every elite/special you kill produces 3 stacks of soulblaze around it

everything dies

[wind spruce]

AND ASSAIL GETTING TRUE AIM STACKS!!!

[potent echo]

yes

two bowling balls to get started and then its over

[wind spruce]

but yiiis PC is OP, people be silly

[flint aspen]

a part of me wishes I have deflector on this deimos

[potent echo]

playing the other classes and i have to to things the fair way

deflector these

i rather have something like unstable power so i get guranteed mutant oneshots

[strong gulch]

The only time PC is meh is on like T2 and T1 and you don't have all 30 points yet.

[grizzled sierra]

Grug struggle use voidstrike

But hears it good!

[wind spruce]

Grug, hold right click press left click

Grug kill all heretic

[grizzled sierra]

Yes yes, Grug not mean that
Grug mean he no get good rolls

[wind spruce]

Grug no need good roll for voidstrike

Only need damage and quell speed

[grizzled sierra]

Is true? Then Grug just bad.

Grug also been thinking
What you do when using voidstrike Assail with the DS when meet monster?
Grug just go stabby stabby but is dangerous

[wind spruce]

Blast radius does nothing, charge rate makes minimal difference and peril resistance is just a bonus

[wind spruce]

Stabby stabby is right answer

[grizzled sierra]

Oke!

[wind spruce]

(It's the weakest part of the build)

[grizzled sierra]

Grug also wonder if run something else than shield
Is very useful

[wind spruce]

I will stan shriek all day everyday

[grizzled sierra]

Yes, but Grug like how can get team to group up with shield
Without shield team just run around like chicken and get killed

[wind spruce]

Because I learnt to deal with shooters and gunners a long time ago with dodging and sliding

[wind spruce]

Let team die

More glory for grug

[grizzled sierra]

Extra rashions

[wind spruce]

ALL the rashuns

[strong gulch]

Fire shriek can go thru walls or push a dog off a teammate who didn't jump down with everyone else.

[wind spruce]

Seriously though, shriek assail void psyker just kills everything on the map

You barely need a team

[strong gulch]

A whole room of non-elite shooters will die.

by just yelling

[flint aspen]

I think I used the aiming mode on the assali far more than the "eh just yeet them away"

especially in the case for ranged trash

[wind spruce]

Yell loud to kill all trash and shooters

Assail to lock down everything that isn't a monstrosity, mauler or ogryn

And pocket artillery

[strong gulch]

I think my biggest problem with assail is sometimes the primary shards need to be baby sat, and that time is JUST long enough for my brain to get distracted and forget or lose track of what I'm doing. Then things go left. That's not assail's fault tho.

[wind spruce]

I mainly use left click assail. It's as much a defensive manoeuvre as anything. You can dodge and slide around while using it to interruot/stagger things and regain toughness while clearing shooters and gunners easily

[strong gulch]

Yip yip.

[wind spruce]

If you're at a certain distance the right click is handy, but it's also really slow

[strong gulch]

I wish I liked void.

[flint aspen]

then again

[wind spruce]

So I'll usually only be using one (maybe 2) right click assail at a time

[flint aspen]

I did pair it up with purgatus, which already does the horde clearing for me

I'm not smart

[wind spruce]

Assail always good

Flamer or trapper in front of you?

Flick an assail out to interrupt and then close to stab it

[strong gulch]

Assail and purg or fire shriek and purg? Either way, still good combos.

[flint aspen]

I wonder how horrific assail can be if only the psyker sees the darts

and only theirs, whereas its invisible to anyone else

[potent echo]

right click is mainly to build peril for gunker builds

but also works in low intensity situations where you wanna save shards

[strong gulch]

Gotta keep the aiming halo tho. That way you can tell your teammates what to shoot.

[wind spruce]

And sniper kills

And kills around corners when enemies are retreating

[flint aspen]

yeah true, I just want to entertain the implications on what happens if the assail darts can only be seen by the psyker using it

[wind spruce]

Probably just make it even more confusing when things just die around zealots etc in melee

[strong gulch]

Shooter: "I'll just hide behind this box so tha... AHHH BEEEEES!!"

[flint aspen]

they just hear "targets marked, executing" and then their entire squad just dies from invisible bees

[potent echo]

its only visible to other stand users

[wind spruce]

Tbh, I don't notice anything my teammates do as things stand

[near wyvern]

2-3 quell cancelled LMB into 1 RMB into weapon swap is a nice way to build peril and avoids the lengthy after cast animation of RMB

Works especially well if you take creeping flames with assail

[wind spruce]

True

Until you're on enhanced blitz mael and only generate ~25%

[near wyvern]

Yeah that hurts

[wind spruce]

Voidstrike is mid-tier 💀

Reddit is hilarious

[near wyvern]

Void sucks in CQC??? Someone doesn't know movement techs

[upper sun]

bruh what move tech just shoot the voidstrike at the gunners feet then walk up to it

[upper galleon]

Some places in darktide are spread out so void is midtier kek

[upper galleon]

Or the head

[wind spruce]

Exactly what I said lmfao

[radiant frigate]

void
mid
???

[upper sun]

🤔

i should play ep assail void

[thin finch]

le redditor

[radiant frigate]

terrain just makes it go from good (spread out) to dominating (hallways) and that is a fact

anyway i played a game of blaze trauma and i hate it

[grizzled sierra]

yeah, is painful

[wind spruce]

Why not DD tho

[wind spruce]

LOL

I always love your reaction to stuff

[upper sun]

so i can spam assail

[wind spruce]

Silly me

[radiant frigate]

hmm today i will slide around and occasionally tap the floor with my staff

oh look i did all the damage forever

it's so stupid

[brazen rampart]

dink

The entirety of blaze trauma is that.

[upper galleon]

There is an ongoing Reddit opinion that the staff meta order is purge>surge>trauma>void

[brazen rampart]

Reddit when they're in a dogshit opinion contest: (they always win)

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mc-mahon-durag-mr-mc-mahon-entrance-walk-gif-22278139

[flint aspen]

character development, I've taken out smite in favor of assail in my surge, even if it meant slightly crippling the talent tree

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-gif-22276944

[wind spruce]

Jesus fucking christ

[radiant frigate]

i love when people are so confidently wrong

[wind spruce]

I'd argue that's the ease of use/skill floor order

[radiant frigate]

perchance

[wind spruce]

So it makes sense that's what the Reddit mind thinks

[radiant frigate]

personally i find purgatus unplayable

[ornate abyss]

I love purge tho

[wind spruce]

I just literally don't play it

[brazen rampart]

Purg is a great staff. Things don't shoot at you when you cook them.

[upper galleon]

Purge isn’t bad by any means

[radiant frigate]

surge is ok i guess

[upper galleon]

But it isn’t meta

Surge is def mid

[brazen rampart]

The issue it suffers is that it's the worst staff compared to its brothers.

[upper galleon]

Just can’t compete in the meta but it is still usuable

[radiant frigate]

surge + assail is kind of like Just Having Voidstrike except it takes two slots

[upper galleon]

Nah surge is worse imo, at least purge+ BR is a staple

[wind spruce]

Imagine having void AND assail

[radiant frigate]

trauma is in a league of its own

[brazen rampart]

On the right build, surge staff will instagib any shooter you point it at, so it automatically takes purg's purpose and makes it better.

That includes gunners.

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/eQO85k

(No I'm never gonna stop linking this)

[upper galleon]

Purg purpose is to spread fire lol, it’s a clearing weapon which works great to round out BR

[brazen rampart]

I'm gonna be real, the last time I saw a purg user taking purg for horde clear, they were getting blendered by ragers.

Frankly, I'm of the opinion that both it and the flamer need direct damage increases.

[wind spruce]

That's a bad purg player tho, tbf

[brazen rampart]

Existing as a DOT applier only is cringe.

[wind spruce]

You can stunlock rager packs with LMB

[brazen rampart]

My point remains.

Anything purg can do, its brothers do better.

Kinda sad tbh.

[wind spruce]

I think it's a bit of a reach to say both that surge is mid and that it's better than purg

[upper galleon]

Skissue

[brazen rampart]

I didn't say it's mid. That was the ferret.

[wind spruce]

Yeah I know

[upper galleon]

I said the first part and didn’t say the 2nd one

[wind spruce]

Yeah both your opinions are trash-tier

[upper galleon]

Flamer doesn’t need buffs lmaoo

What the fuck

It melts everything below crushers and monstros

[brazen rampart]

I think surge is alright, but I'd rather the charge attack be its m1 and generate less peril and it should have a lightning bolt that generates a lot of peril as its new charged attack.

[upper galleon]

God damn the fotf brainrot

Oh wow you can’t melt down 30 crushers in one tank now the weapon needs compensation

[wind spruce]

They should buff void, make it do more unyielding damage plx

[upper galleon]

Well one isn’t my opinion

[wind spruce]

Since it's so mid tier

[brazen rampart]

Yknow, I think I may have mis worded what I meant by flamer needing more damage.

[wind spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-why-you-little-gif-17376912

[upper galleon]

And i dont believe the reddit opinion either

Thought i was fairly clear on that

[brazen rampart]

I dont think it should exist as a DOT applier. That's a better way to say what I meant.

[upper galleon]

So you want flamer to… exist like the immo nade

Where the flame is just cosmetic

Idk

Sounds lame

[brazen rampart]

No. I think actively spraying the 40k equivalent of napalm on someone should do lots of damage.

But I dont think it should exist as a DOT applier weapon.

[upper galleon]

I mean the lots of damage is the dot

[brazen rampart]

Yeah, nerf the DOT and increase the actual damage of the weapon.

I mean I'm literally spraying you with molten promethium.

[upper galleon]

I’d rather them remove the infinite cleave first

[brazen rampart]

I dont think infinite cleave is an issue, considering the type of weapon it is.

[upper galleon]

Nah if you buff the impact damage

The cleave has to be limited

[wind spruce]

Infinite cleave should definitely be nerfed

Same with purg

[potent echo]

void without DD is suffering

its not bad but alot of breakpoints will be missing

infinite cleave is the best part about flame weapons though

it wasnt really consider meta in VT2 because the stagger wasn't unlimited, and the dot is alot worse vs armor

i can see a new mark of flamer weapons that do more single target with more limited stagger

[strong thicket]

Surge is so strong on melee only LMAO

[potent echo]

how

[strong thicket]

A loss but I atribute that to 3 bickering manchildren

[wind spruce]

Surge is pretty weak on melee only tbh

[potent echo]

yea i dont get it

its probably mainly creeping carrying

[wind spruce]

I can do more damage with just my duelling sword

[potent echo]

110.8k warpfire wow

[strong thicket]

Vent + cdr goes brrr

But it really works

[potent echo]

add EP smite to your mix and dont use surge and thats what really works

i dont think anyone can lose melee only with smite EP

[strong thicket]

I will never touch smite

[potent echo]

ah no wonder you think surge is strong

[wind spruce]

Lmfao

The only self-respecting way to play melee only is with columnus

[strong thicket]

Ah come on. It's good. It's not the best we have

But it's good

[potent echo]

no

it is

it kills ragers

[wind spruce]

He means surge

But yea surge is good

[potent echo]

surge is fine

[wind spruce]

All staff good

[flint aspen]

replaced it with assali just so I won't get discriminated and marked for death over using it

[wind spruce]

Assail best blitz

[near wyvern]

Someone doesn't know LMB exists then

[flint aspen]

worth crippling my talent tree to earn brownie points

[upper sun]

breakpoints?

i just shoot stuff

[near wyvern]

Stop having fun and embrace the min maxing

[upper sun]

no

uhhh i NEED to one shot that crusher so i can get stacks for my blah blah blah

[flint aspen]

next I'll also take smite off my gun psyker even if it wasn't used that much and its only just to get the 5% cooldown reduction on killing specials or elites

[strong thicket]

What do you guys prefer on gun psyker, assail or rupture with flayer

I kinda like free dmg every 15s

[stiff falcon]

Assail

[azure bridge]

can blazing trauma hold its own if you dont go for venting shriek?

[upper galleon]

assail

free ammo economy

meanwhile the 15s rupture can be absolutely wasted so easily

[potent echo]

charge shot dreg gunner, it no die, madge

[dark stag]

Am I the only one that can't see their disrupt destiny stacks?

[restive ice]

no

that would be your mother

[tired estuary]

Besides just the free ammo economy, I really like assail on gunker to pump up peril without having to bring an illisi along for jorking

[tired estuary]

Its a ui bug lol, its not just you

[dark stag]

hooray

Imma just pretend that my stacks are perfectly fine

[tired estuary]

they probs are tbh, not hard to maintain dd

[vernal temple]

What's the dump stat on a trauma staff?

[analog agate]

Warp res for both build

[azure bridge]

someone said it earlier and I happen to agree so I'll repeat it, the feel of the staff bewtween 60 warp resist, and 80, is not noticable

[vernal temple]

Ah, shit. Thought I've got a good staff. Has nearly 80% in everything except quell speed

[analog agate]

Quell speed is also fine as a semi dump stat

Because of the perk that increases quell speed that you path through to WS

[restive ice]

solid titties

[vernal temple]

So would this be okay?
Damage and charge rate 78%, Warp res 79%, blast radius 80%, quell speed 60%

25% unyielding, 20% maniac

Surge t4, Warp Flurry t4

[azure bridge]

is that before or after you've changed stuff?

[vernal temple]

After. Maniac and Flurry are locked

[azure bridge]

surge unfortunately is a dead blessing on trauma

[restive ice]

Left click trauma time

[azure bridge]

alright time to piss people off

i'm running blazing rending for the memes

[queen fog]

Could be worse, as long as someone’s enjoying themselves use wtv

[flint aspen]

could be worse

you could be running smite

[azure bridge]

lol

[flint aspen]

I already removed smite in my surge build because of the stigma alone

[restive ice]

I should do blazing rending with non ep smite spam and a lacerate knife

[flint aspen]

crippled my talent tree as a result, but at least I won't be murdered over using smite

[queen fog]

A battle brothers opinion is a heavy one, but I wouldn’t let it sway how I make my builds cuz of their preference

If u wanna be a walking electrical socket with a fork in it? Go for it

[flint aspen]

considering how running smite basically marks you for death and getting potentially banned by simply virtue of having it?

I'd rather cripple my build and earn brownie points

[queen fog]

If they wanna stop/persuade you otherwise they’re stingy about how u play A PvE game

[flint aspen]

I already lost my 5% cooldown reduction by killing elites and specialists for swapping to assali

[restive ice]

I've never had this happen lol

[azure bridge]

he's memeing

[restive ice]

what's a meme

[azure bridge]

the dna of the soul

[restive ice]

your memes end here

[vernal temple]

thoughts on this instead of a force/dueling sword?

[potent echo]

combat axes are slo

not as juiced as on zealot or vet

since its a brumo weapon faster attack speed = better

[upper galleon]

unable to juice it like vet or zealot yea

and you need flak+unarmored for bruisers unless your damage and weakspot damage buffs from tree are stacked

[flint aspen]

you're far better off using even a tac axe

[vernal temple]

Don't have tac axes :c
Best I can do is force sword, duelling sword, a shmaul and this axe

Got a couple of Mk 3 knives but practically never use em

[gloomy yarrow]

as a tac axe enjoyer you should get a tac axe

[vernal temple]

I'm mostly using the Rashad for horde clear. It one-taps poxers/groaners most of the time

Hit-hit-push and all over again

[patent steeple]

which perks are optimal for a DS2, btw?

I have a locked Maniac perk, and am wondering what the other perk should be. (my DS2's blessings are Shred 3 and Uncanny 4)

[grizzled sierra]

grug kindly ask for voidstrike assail build for sparky
cant find good one on website for myself

[upper galleon]

this is what i use

could change points around depending if you want base stats, more toughness regen, more DD stacks

[broken carbon]

it has 2 points remaining

[broken carbon]

take these two

run with voidstrike with surge and flurry/nexus

flurry will have slightly higher DPS potential overall, @buoyant maple did the math on it

but both are good

[buoyant maple]

Tbh I played with both a bit more and they were closer to equal

[broken carbon]

yeah i kinda figured

[buoyant maple]

Flurry is definitely more user friendly tho lol

[broken carbon]

true

[buoyant maple]

Nexus is nice because surge proc 1 taps ragers

So in that sense u get more bang for ur buck

[broken carbon]

i think its that in game, meeting certain breakpoints more often is much nicer with nexus

whereas flurry you have to dedicate another shot sometimes

[buoyant maple]

Only for rager/mauler usually

[broken carbon]

rager mauler ogryns

[buoyant maple]

I don’t rly use Voidstrike for ogryn enemies tbh

[broken carbon]

and those r gonna be some of the biggest threats

[buoyant maple]

It’s not as fast as just melee

[broken carbon]

yeah but having a quick delete ogryn button with surge

surge can one shot ogryns except bulwarks

and its stagger

can stop a reaper from shooting

or open up a bulwark

[buoyant maple]

I’m ngl void was ok for 1 bulwark but didn’t matter much when it’s bulwark stack

[broken carbon]

its great for bulwark packs

u can easily deal half damage to them all

n then u kill 1 or two and they soulblaze burn to death

[tidal scaffold]

any tips on making a brain burst build work well, and which keystone do yall reccomend?

[upper galleon]

yes i am aware

[grizzled sierra]

thanks you!

[upper galleon]

i wa sleaving choice and also i'm half asleep adn couldnt' remember

[upper galleon]

EP and either vent or double shield wall so you can maintain both EP and Kinetic Resonance

[grizzled sierra]

sparky take stamina curio or just health/tuffness?

[upper galleon]

+3 stam is very nice for psyker

[broken carbon]

i run 2 toughness one +3 stam for kinetic deflection

if u didnt know, KD scales off of ur stamina, so with just one +3 stam curio u can block a ton of hits

[restive ice]

i run +9 stam for my run n gun purg

[grizzled sierra]

grug now have numeric ui installed and is now copnfused

it say i still have dodge but character jump and no dodge

is bad!

[restive ice]

consider segregation

[mossy oyster]

i think my beloved believes in 2nd chances siblings

lmfao

[upper sun]

correct dump stat as always melk

[mossy oyster]

80 finesse doe

oh its a mk v

poop

if it was 4 then it be something to be a lil excited about

[restive ice]

the zoomy boy

[mossy oyster]

might be worth snagging anyway for the update

[tidal scaffold]

holy shit, machinegun brain bursting is great

[broken carbon]

combined with a speedstim

u can burst down a boss to half health

its really fun

[grizzled sierra]

how sustained fire work with voidstrike

[broken carbon]

same way it works on ogryn

theres a brief window for u to shoot a second time

im pretty sure

actually im not sure

hang on

[broken carbon]

ok so it doesnt work with charged attacks

the window is too short for you to full charge

sustained fire is pretty bad anyway

[grizzled sierra]

just wondering

[restive ice]

sustained fire run n gun trauma

[dense tapir]

I got this on my psyker, please tell me i can do something with it

[opal gyro]

Unarmoured or Infested for purgatus?

Or crit chance

[broken carbon]

neither

flak

maniac

with warp flurry and warp nexus

[opal gyro]

Already got flak

[grizzled sierra]

voidstrike is fun

i was using assail as my main horde clear, now its the voidstrike
even if i assume itd be beter suited for elites or flak or sth

[upper galleon]

void is best suited for anything in a straight line

[broken carbon]

then run maniac

[broken carbon]

void is OP lmfao

[grizzled sierra]

wonder why people thinki its bad

[broken carbon]

its probably gonna be nerfed soon

because people are bad at psyker

[grizzled sierra]

im not particularly good at the game either

[broken carbon]

im pretty sure the type of people that think its bad are the same people who hold down EP smite for 90% of the match

then wonder why they dont have the highest damage

[broken carbon]

can you dodge a crusher overhead

or a trapper net

or push a poxburster

[opal gyro]

Just got a 380 deimos from brunts with good enough distribution, if it gets bad perks / blessings I will cry

[broken carbon]

lmfao

[grizzled sierra]

most times

when i dont forget that i used all my dodges

[broken carbon]

congrats ur better than probably 75% of players

[opal gyro]

Only had enough plasteel for one consecration and it got +20% unyielding damage

[grizzled sierra]

i have the evasive frame if that means anything

[broken carbon]

people suck at this game

it doesnt lmfao

that frame is pretty easy to get

[grizzled sierra]

thought it means i know how to dodge lmao

[broken carbon]

holy peak emote

[broken carbon]

troo

[opal gyro]

[broken carbon]

i love

sasha

so much

[broken carbon]

oh my god peak

[grizzled sierra]

who is sasha

[broken carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/sasha-wolfdog-wolp-wolfdog-gif-10354048123068106196

[grizzled sierra]

heavys minigun?

[broken carbon]

the wolp

no

[grizzled sierra]

oh

[broken carbon]

the wolp

https://tenor.com/view/sasha-wolfdog-wolp-wolfdog-gif-307456939725271948

[grizzled sierra]

is cute

[broken carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/female-wolf-gif-5213085186458037767

i love wolves

[grizzled sierra]

my issue is that i dont like the designs of most frames

[broken carbon]

yeah same

[grizzled sierra]

so i just run evasive

[broken carbon]

the ones u get for running maelstrom or aurics are pretty good though

[opal gyro]

I use whatever fits my drip best

[broken carbon]

lmfao

[grizzled sierra]

i see a lot of poeple run Hazard Hunter

[broken carbon]

i run the twins hard mode trophy and the kill 500k enemies

[grizzled sierra]

i find its visually uh

bad

[broken carbon]

shows that i know how 2 play the game lmfao

[broken carbon]

thats the green one right

[grizzled sierra]

ye

[broken carbon]

fair

[upper sun]

everyone i see with the 500k kills is at least ok

other frames who knows but 500k is minimum not awful at the game

[broken carbon]

real

twins hard mode is the real "oh ok they are competent" sign though

i rarely see people running it

[formal harness]

someone said twins, my senses are tingling

[broken carbon]

huh

[ornate hamlet]

horny

[upper sun]

i dont have it 😭

by the time i started playing the game twins were ded

err well by the time i was good enough to play twins they were dead

[lethal lagoon]

I run the best border with the twins hard mode thingy usually.

If you don't have this border, you are just lame.

Categorically.

I see a lot of people run the twins thingy, but not the best version, which is just like kinda weird.

[broken carbon]

u can get a 4 stack for it i think

enough people should be up for it

[upper sun]

tru

[broken carbon]

yeah lmfao

full gold my beloved

[upper sun]

imagine running a silver medal unironically

[upper sun]

"eh"

i have plasteel to grind

[lethal lagoon]

Just ignoreing the part where if you don't have a blue border you aren't cool

[upper sun]

no one has time for "fun"

[broken carbon]

u haven’t experienced a difficult fight until u play twins hard mode

[lethal lagoon]

I pubbed mine cause I'm a real boy.

[upper sun]

i did normal hardmode in pubs

[broken carbon]

wdym normal hard mode

[upper sun]

secret hardmode no

[broken carbon]

there isn’t a normal hard mode

[queen fog]

probs minimum difficulty level

[upper sun]

damnation but no puzle

[broken carbon]

well that’s just twins on damnation

[upper sun]

yes

[broken carbon]

hard mode twins are a million times harder

[upper sun]

ye

[broken carbon]

i think they’re both in the phase of when one twin is dead and the other gets buffed

they’re in that phase throughout the whole fight

with faster attacking

[queen fog]

even bigger hordes

[broken carbon]

i don’t remember how they get buffed when one dies though

[broken carbon]

can’t revive dead teammates

[queen fog]

god forbid you forget bout the moar elite types/specialists in the fray

[broken carbon]

lmfao

yeah

[queen fog]

you really dont notice the difference unless u tried hard mode

[broken carbon]

the way we won it was me running a crit cdr chorus

so i could stop the mine twin from throwing out mines

because good lord does he throw a lot

[queen fog]

mm yes shotgun spread with toxic nades

[grizzled sierra]

guys, issue
i meme a lot but playing with the voidstrike will make it hard for me to go back to other weapons

[lethal lagoon]

I did hardmode for the puzzle unlock with random people in t2. I bet that guy that died thought he was bugged.

I also had to be super sneaky, so they didn't see me ring the bells and want to smack them themselves

[broken carbon]

lmfao that’s awesome

[hazy locust]

[upper sun]

someone did the puzzle for me in t2 when i was just grinding weeklies

[regal jasper]

Omg hi

[lethal lagoon]

Missed connections?!

[upper sun]

totally :#333

[supple thistle]

Does base item rating matter if I consecrate items just for blessings farm?

[lethal lagoon]

There's nothing to suggest it does matter, but I personally feel like it does.

[strong gulch]

Assuming level 30.

[lethal lagoon]

Assuming you aquired the item at level 30*

I still remember upgrading a high base rating item I got while leveling and it having tier 2 perks and blessings.

[strong gulch]

😩

I di wish there was a way to try to get shit gear. Like yes, give me baby's first sruge staff.

[upper sun]

level is what matters

but unironically lower is better because they cost less to upgrade

[upper sun]

🤔

idk about this boss

[lethal lagoon]

^ he is the resident expert at ruining his future crafting update experience.

[upper sun]

as long as you are level 30 it doesnt matter

[lethal lagoon]

No one levels alts like me

[upper sun]

no

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

u level atlas not alts ?????

[lethal lagoon]

I remember specifically it was a surge staff grey I bought pre 30, and then upgraded post 30

and it was all tier 2s

[upper sun]

when was that?

first crafting rework?

[lethal lagoon]

Whenever I leveled my 2nd alt

[upper sun]

what rating was it?

[lethal lagoon]

I wanna say 350

[upper sun]

🤔

maybe u were unlucky

[lethal lagoon]

I just remember being upset, which is why I remember this at all

I've literally never seen anything like that ever again

And i don't think anyone has

That's unlucky on a cosmic scale

Like a metoer hitting earth

[upper sun]

i mean

[lethal lagoon]

Or it matters when the items was aquired.

[upper sun]

ive seen two t2s

[strong gulch]

I upvoted because I had the same thing happen.

[lethal lagoon]

I can't remember the last time I saw a t2 on a upgrade.

That actually might be literally the time

[strong gulch]

We could just be outliers.

[upper sun]

i do

got reload 2 on a 380 bolter

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like you deserved that

So that doesn't count

[upper sun]

i feel like u lost knee privileges

[lethal lagoon]

That's just normal aging

[strong gulch]

It's me. 😭

[lethal lagoon]

Unironically collagen fixed my knee pain, plus my skin look radient

[strong gulch]

No worries. I have a bapidy stick.

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I wasn't recommending

[strong gulch]

Cane pain for ye

[lethal lagoon]

I was just saying

[strong gulch]

Actually not because my stick is too light weight.

[lethal lagoon]

It's light so you can modify it with a sword later.

It's a feature

[strong gulch]

It is hollow in the middle. Although, there are swords canes available.

[lethal lagoon]

Cermiac/3d printed swords, so it can get through detectors

[upper sun]

smh gotta get on that too

or eat... brain cheese

[strong gulch]

NOOOO my leg is asleep

[lethal lagoon]

I just mix it with my protein powder and then coffee

[upper sun]

gotta get back into the gym too getting droopy 😭

[lethal lagoon]

Buy some hand grippers for your desk

start with that adjustable one on amazon for like $5-10

Then grab the 100s, 150s, etc.