psyker-class

[raw coral]

well, shows how much I play psyker 😛

[long wharf]

but it doesn't stack, just refreshes

[raw coral]

ah gotcha

[long wharf]

making it absolutely pointless

[raw coral]

well, seems to be working so far, but definitely needs some tweaking

[long wharf]

if it stacked, then it'd be a serious contender with the alternative option (peril generation reduction per warp charge)

[wind spruce]

I'll take three stacks, even that would be so broken on top of all our other toughness regen

[long wharf]

make it 10% toughness over 5 seconds, stacks up to 5 times

make it the foundation of a defensive tank psyker build

replace the damage per warp charge node, replace it with a cooldown per warp charge gain (1s or something)

[raw coral]

My staff does a pretty decent job for me too. Sorry, I was just on psyker a minute ago, and didnt think to take a picture of the gear

[long wharf]

remove the "blitzes consume warp charges" effect of warp siphon

[raw coral]

Honestly my mentality of 'just hit it harder' doesnt really work on psyker in the way I play, so I get slapped around a bit

[long wharf]

put the damage gain per warp charge effect on the main warp siphon node

and there we go, warp siphon would be a serious option

if you want to make it really unique, change the warp charge gain mechanic to be based on peril generated

every 10 peril has a 25% chance of giving a warp charge

or something

[upper galleon]

they just need to take off quicken from baseline

it should be optional

[long wharf]

it's a relic from the old class design

it needs to be gotten rid of entirely

warp charges should have been a "earn and pay" mechanic from the get-go

but now we have EP for that for blitzes specifically

DD is a good design for building up damage output that rewards accuracy/weakspot targetting

so, warp charges need a rework

[azure bridge]

so, i've had some time to try out assail+trauma and it seems to mesh well enough, so new question, dome shield or wall shield?

[long wharf]

depends how much situational awareness you have throughout the mission

[azure bridge]

pretty decent, until i dont

[long wharf]

they both do unique things

walls block projectiles and can stun specialists

and you get two

which means you can be more tactical with them

[strong gulch]

Walls have more potential imo.

[long wharf]

dome doesn't block enemies at all, but it completely shuts down enemy projectiles

[strong gulch]

But they take more brain power to place properly

[long wharf]

it does more than block incoming projectiles

[azure bridge]

so what i'm hearing is likely dome for me

[long wharf]

dome destroys all enemy projectiles that spawn inside it

[azure bridge]

i don't like getting shot

and i seem to get shot alot

[long wharf]

it also gets popped pretty easily

because it absorbs damage from shots that weren't going to hit anybody

[azure bridge]

ahh i had wondered

if it had hp

[long wharf]

so, dome is amazing for shutting down beasts of nurgle

when used properly

[azure bridge]

i've seen that yeah

its their "no" button

[long wharf]

but walls are more flexible and you have to have more situational awareness to use them better

the toughness DR given by the bubble is a nicety, but it's not game-breaking

honestly, you can even just skip that node if you're pressed for points to reach other things for the build

walls blocking specialists is a big deal

[azure bridge]

well i have one point spare to use, and its either going into wall or dome

[long wharf]

you want two points for the wall upgrades

[azure bridge]

for double walls i figured yeah

i'd probably get the most bang for my buck out of dome

[long wharf]

for just one point? sure.

[raw coral]

ah, this is why my staff does such a good job generating toughness for me. Mettle, Perfect Timing, and warp nexus on a blaze staff

and a lot of toughness damage reduction with high perils

[raw coral]

Also, should I be trying for more finesse?

[long wharf]

definitely

[raw coral]

I think the staff is pretty good tho

[long wharf]

finesse is attack speed and crit damage

it's second highest priority behind damage

[patent jacinth]

Terrifying barrage is the worst blessing in the game

[raw coral]

is it?

[restive ice]

it terrifies your teammates

[upper galleon]

tbh, purge doesn't have much competition, flurry requires multiple streams

[upper galleon]

it doesn't work on half the horde in the game, poxwalkers, since they are infested

[patent jacinth]

Yeah but its not terrifying barrage

[long wharf]

on the purge staff, there are only two blessings that matter

[upper galleon]

and purge staff already suppresses enemies

like, it has ridic suppress value and it has good stagger as well on m1

[raw coral]

true, but it is fun to light up a horde of them and watch combustion go off

[upper galleon]

yea, but that's not TB

[raw coral]

idk if I have that one yet, lemme check

[upper galleon]

flurry is best unless you are doing the weird scrier's build

warp flurry* reduce charge time after chaining charges together

[long wharf]

for purge, you just want warp flurry and warp nexus

nothing else matters

[raw coral]

nah, doing a crit focused build

[long wharf]

doesn't matter the build

[jovial juniper]

It's meant for Malice, where the game throws more groaners than walkers at you
But since groaners aren't the only horde enemy......

[raw coral]

ahh gotcha

[patent jacinth]

Purgatus has 5 blessings

[long wharf]

and only two matter

[upper galleon]

focused channeling can work

but yea, flurry+nexus

[long wharf]

purge might as well only have two blessings

same with surge staff

[raw coral]

yea i did notice it didnt have much effect on the majority of what I was hitting, save for some of the bastards that I really dont want hitting me, but I havent tried warp flurry yet so hey

[upper galleon]

okay for purge specifically i do think FC has a place

not for surge obv

[long wharf]

nah

[upper galleon]

but for advancing with a maxed out charge

[patent jacinth]

The only issue with flurry is due to prugatus's charge time its pretty easy to lose stacks while venting

[upper galleon]

nah

you can just do partial charges

[long wharf]

the only time you'll benefit from FC is when you stop having situational awareness

[upper galleon]

or just cancel charges and then do one big one

[long wharf]

which you shouldn't be doing anyways

[upper galleon]

it gives movement speed now/removes movement speed penalty

[long wharf]

meh

[upper galleon]

it's not about awareness, it's about being able to posisition more proactively,

[long wharf]

you can do that anyways

FC just isn't good enough to be better than flurry

[raw coral]

I really dont have a problem when it comes to getting warp charges back, at least during a horde

its the long range fuckers that screw me

[long wharf]

with purge, not having warp nexus is a bricked staff

[upper galleon]

yes but faster, you can kite longer, you can advance/retreat, i'm not saying it's competitive but it def stands on it's own compared to TB or RnG

[long wharf]

well, "not saying it's competitive" means you can equally argue for using terrifying barrage or run-n-gun

[upper galleon]

no, it's better than those two by a lot now

[long wharf]

in the end, purge meta is flurry+nexus for a reason, and that's because the other options are hot garbage

[upper galleon]

before the recent change i'd agree

but with the change I think i would not be scared of someone in my lobby running focused+nexus

as opposed to seeing some mad witch i saw run RnG+TB

[long wharf]

oof

[upper galleon]

halving the movement speed penalty is substantial

basically a whole new blessing

[long wharf]

the argument against that is - use a movement-focused melee

[upper galleon]

can advance on shooters, can kite ragers and maulers better

[long wharf]

switching is basically instant

[upper galleon]

while channeling?

[long wharf]

ds4

[upper galleon]

of course for sheer mobility you swap to melee, this is specifically while channeling fire

this is basically... hmm

[long wharf]

don't put yourself in a position where you thought you were safe to channel and don't have the space to reposition properly?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper galleon]

what's another blessing that got buffed like FC

[long wharf]

if you need to continue channeling to kill while moving, then either dodge to move or stop channeling

[upper galleon]

positions can change and so can gamestates, and i stick by the fact it now has use cases

[long wharf]

use primary to stagger and give yourself room to move more efficiently

[upper galleon]

but you can save dodges now cause you are moving,

[long wharf]

that's what the primary puff is for

I think the needing to maneuver while channeling is a very fine edge-case that doesn't really justify FC

fine = slim

[upper galleon]

i'm trying to think of a similar blessing that is stuck at being the 3rd wheel

cause you have 2 good blessings, one okay blessing, and 2 shit blessings

oh it's rampage psword post bug fix, or slaught psword

now that BM or sunder is picked with pc4

[long wharf]

slaughterer is fine for psword

not only is BM going to be addressed in the future, slaughterer ramps up power giving you room to use unpowered swings if needed for breathing room

I personally really dislike charging the psword every two swings

or three

[raw coral]

tried warp flurry, definitely good, and I really didnt need to worry about hordes too much

very good

and, someone said 'i love you grandma sparkles'

i dont think im hitting quite as many stacks tho, but thats prolly just me for that round

[wind spruce]

You should probably take kinetic resonance over Kinetic flayer if you're having trouble with ranged enemies....

[fair jungle]

for a surge build what's the best way to enhance this staff?

[wind spruce]

Switch unarmoured to flak

Upgrade warp nexus when you can

[fair jungle]

any melee in particular that would compliment it?

currently using a force sword

[wind spruce]

People usually take something like an Illisi for horde clear

Since surge does single target

[lethal lagoon]

Illisus is indeed the play. But if you are getting enough elite kills and running warp charges, shriek can handle a lot of your melee, so you can grab something like d4, or whatever you want.

[lethal lagoon]

Typical Surge build. Just spam RMB and shriek 90% of the time.

[fair jungle]

is this one any good?

[lethal lagoon]

Is it "any good" no.

Does it have slaughterer and is a illusis, therefore usable, sure.

[fair jungle]

what perks and blessings would be more ideal?

[lethal lagoon]

For perks maniacs is a must, the second is dealer's choice.

For blessings, you want slaughterer, which is the important one. A good secondary is uncanny, but deflector if you enjoy is fine.

The issue is the low damage and finese and completely useless perks.

You will not be using illusus on carpace, and crit hit damage is terrible.

[fair jungle]

also that talent tree doesn't have any surge boosts. is surge just for a quick aoe stun or should i not be using it at all?

[lethal lagoon]

So the "smite" boosts aren't that needed even if you main smite. You just take em anyways cause EP has free points.

But yes it's a panic button, you should go most games without even using it.

That's a surge tree.

I have a EP smite tree, if you wanna use Smite 60-70% of the time.

EP smite is pretty brainrot though, if you are new to psyker I wouldn't recommend.

You will actively become a worse player the longer you use EP smite shriek

It is fun on occassion though.

Here's the tree, and some braincell losing gameplay.

[ornate hamlet]

despicable

[lethal lagoon]

me?

[ornate hamlet]

keep yourself safe

[lethal lagoon]

I'm shocked I don't have a single despicable me emote

[untold niche]

i rather take flak and then kill ragers with my ranged

[lethal lagoon]

manics is for mutants you neanderthal.

Also, illy is nice for stunning ragers in a pinch

[untold niche]

you mean the huggies?

why you want to kill them :(

what a mean person

[fair jungle]

so basically just keep casting and shriek above 85%?

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-monkey-gorilla-ape-hug-gif-14004263079835426812

[lethal lagoon]

Yeppers, how 99% of smite users get it wrong is beyond me.

It's legitmately turning on hacks

[untold niche]

why you encouraging another person to play ep smite

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not, he kinda asked.

[fair jungle]

what curios are good? right now i'm just wearing a mix of hp and toughness

[untold niche]

you were supposed to fight the infection

[lethal lagoon]

I actively encourged him not to.

[untold niche]

oh

sorry i mispoke.

but you could have lied to him and said smite sucks

[lethal lagoon]

I like all toughness, but I do use spidey sense for pox bursters because I geniunely can't hear them.

So that influences my decision.

I also like to charge gunners with reckless abandon.

[lethal lagoon]

I unironically want smite reworked or removed from the game.

If idiots keep using smite wrong, it'll just get buffed AGAIN.

IT DIDN"T NEED A BUFF

IT WAS OP AS FUCK ALREADY

Just to be clear, I'm not calling anyone here an idiot.

[untold niche]

the "standard" is
one 3 stamina, two toughness.

Then for curio perks this is where its not standard and its my own opinion:
take 3x CDR and then 3x corruption resist (for pox bombers)

[lyric burrow]

it do be needing a rework

even if it was worse i find it uninteresting to use or play with

[lethal lagoon]

Oh nice, a long completely unreliable stun that reduces my cleave and AoE damage, they are helping me so much.

[ornate hamlet]

I hate smite shriek

[lyric burrow]

"turn off the AI and make combat the psykanium" is like

[lethal lagoon]

And the backseating they do because they have time to do anything they want cause they are doing nothing of value

[lyric burrow]

not it

[lethal lagoon]

yay

[ornate hamlet]

You can already kill a whole horde by shrieking at max stacks

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

not at bulwark and crusher though tbf

[ornate hamlet]

We don't need to layer the massive cleave on top of another massive cleave

Fatshark did a poopoo

[untold niche]

https://streamable.com/3a6olz

[spice veldt]

flayer proccing from a trauma onto a daemonhost :)

[lethal lagoon]

Oh yeah, I forgot you were a dumbass.

[spice veldt]

fortunately, only a friend got aggroed onto instead of me

[untold niche]

daemon host doesn't work in psk, and no daemon host found

oh wait

nvm

i thought you meant somehting else

sorry arco.

i forgot you were kind

[spice veldt]

apology accepted

[untold niche]

not mean like atlas

[spice veldt]

i'll eat you later

[lethal lagoon]

You agreed against me with the enemy, I shall have no mercy

[untold niche]

[lethal lagoon]

Jesus I butchered that so hard

[untold niche]

its fine i understand your typo.
you were uh, you were saying hes right.

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

you said that it was valid

YOU said it

[lethal lagoon]

I will find you, and I will mildy inconvince you.

[untold niche]

atlas im str8 sorry

[lethal lagoon]

I'll install a bitcoin miner on your PC, and turn it on at 12.3% capcity, so you never notice it, but it'll decrease the lifespan of your graphics card just long enough that you'll be upset

[untold niche]

when i cook my spaghet they become harder

thats how straight i am man

[lethal lagoon]

That's not me.

Jesus mate.

[untold niche]

i mistyped

both start with A

[lethal lagoon]

Not atm

[untold niche]

yeah but arco is arco not stan-mistypo-78570

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

why that emote

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

are you going to make arco change his name to that

[lethal lagoon]

[spice veldt]

he has no power over me

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

[untold niche]

arco if i upload this onto youtoob can this get pinned

@spice veldt

[spice veldt]

you will have to pay a mod 100 bucks for that

[untold niche]

stfu you are in cool kid gang of this discord

you prob cvould get it pinned

[spice veldt]

there are no mods there so no

[lethal lagoon]

Why? literally anyone with a brain could immediately tell that flayer does not proc on the highest health enemy.

[untold niche]

Not everyone smart like you

Some peepo average lik3 me

[lethal lagoon]

Don't sell yourself short, you aren't average, you are special.

[untold niche]

Then how did stuff get pinned here

[untold niche]

I'm special but you have special needs

[lethal lagoon]

That your mom fulfills

[spice veldt]

they paid the mods 100 dollars under the table, of course

[untold niche]

[lethal lagoon]

I most certainly did not.

I only trade in certain favors, not currency

[lethal lagoon]

As a psyker who is pinned in the great psyker chat, I use my superiority to command you to not change your name for another 10 seconds.

[untold niche]

I will type like a 12 year old less frequently for 3 pins

[lethal lagoon]

My 12 year old cousin types better than you, so that's a bad thing.

[untold niche]

Yeah your whole family ancestry is better than me stfu mr perfect

[lethal lagoon]

Unironically, me, my cousins, my mother, my father, my uncle, my cousin's mother are all "gifted"
I just seem like a complete dumbass because I am.

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-monkey-gif-21207902

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

I'm the underdog that made it but as evident by previous conversations it came at a heavy price.

[untold niche]

Bro your cousins mother is just called your aunt?

????

[lethal lagoon]

No but the mother is my cousin, so what are her children?

Cousins once removed?

I don't know how english works.

[untold niche]

Cousin nephew?

I mean I don't know I'd that's the correct term but I think that would describe that

I'm billingual as well, bi-suck-at-both-language

Eh the anime emotes getting more and more cringe

[lethal lagoon]

You getting more cringe would be physically impossible

[untold niche]

ok boomer

[scarlet timber]

Hey atlas quick question

[untold niche]

[scarlet timber]

Why does everyone hate the elite killing aura ?

Is it that weak ?

[lethal lagoon]

Ok mr missed out on the best economy ever and will forever wallow in regret.

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think it hits any BPs normally.

[untold niche]

more like it doesn't change thresholds.
SO if you don't know what you are doing its useless.

there are edge cases where it does

[scarlet timber]

Doesn't go well with surge though ?

[untold niche]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNCtudQQVg4&ab_channel=Yes%2CSpeaking

[lethal lagoon]

With warp charges, no.

[scarlet timber]

Ehh

[untold niche]

@fading galleon hello mr hank, can this get a pin.

[lethal lagoon]

With EP, potentially, which is why I've been testing it.

IT DOESN"T NEED A PIN

IT"S COMMON KNOWLEDGE

[scarlet timber]

Hank is a ogryn chat guy

Not psyker

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

theresn o psyker mods i think

[untold niche]

but you still checked it yourself that time :v

[spice veldt]

seems so
still pretty wordy to say/type though

[scarlet timber]

Why don't you guys nominate pygex?

[lethal lagoon]

Because I'm throrough in mocking people.

I don't think he wants to?

[untold niche]

more like does he want the role lmao

[scarlet timber]

I mean we ogryn mains nominated hank !

[untold niche]

i don't think an average poerson would want to watch a discord channel all day

[scarlet timber]

Nominate atlas then

[lethal lagoon]

I've already removed you once, I can do it again!

[scarlet timber]

He is the second best pskter here I think ?

[lethal lagoon]

God no.

I play random builds and then get quickly bored of the game.

[untold niche]

what if its the grandson of your cousin?

[scarlet timber]

Arcotash is also good one to nominate

I dont know where he is though

[untold niche]

arco too busy in zealot chat

[scarlet timber]

Then go with pygex

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think we need more mods?

[untold niche]

what do you not understand @scarlet timber

[potent echo]

I'm the best psyker here

[scarlet timber]

Also I just realised psyker is the only class without any attack speed buff

I mean

[unreal wasp]

Decided I prefer running infantry lasgun over infantry autogun because it's easier to aim

[potent echo]

Yes and it's sad

[untold niche]

and psyker chat is self-managing

[scarlet timber]

I mean you guys

Are like the deadest chat

[spice veldt]

first cousin twice removed

[lethal lagoon]

I'm scared of mods, cause they'll correctly determine I'm not joking when I make fun of the jester.

[untold niche]

idk why i laughed.

[spice veldt]

twiced

[scarlet timber]

Majority of people here aren't even pskyer mains

[unreal wasp]

Ogryn main right here but Psyker is my second most played class

[untold niche]

the regulars here are what you on about
i mean i transitioned into zealot main but i like psyker best and i stay here to help out

[untold niche]

I like this chat ngl.

[lethal lagoon]

Are we?

[scarlet timber]

Yes...

[lethal lagoon]

I find most of the other chats boring, so I gradually ended up here.

[scarlet timber]

Like ime it's the most slow moving chat

[unreal wasp]

Actually, I don't know if I've played Psyker more than Ogryn, they're the only two classes that I've done all of the penances for and I don't know what my overlevel is on both

[untold niche]

i think thats fine.
not every dsicord channel needs to be exdee

[scarlet timber]

Mine is 800 on ogryn

[unreal wasp]

On Overwatch as Veteran while running melee veteran with a revolver

Just Dodge 4Head

[scarlet timber]

Tbf I hate this chat cuz of how many times I get into arguments

With people here

[untold niche]

but yeah this is basically what i feel of all the channels

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

other than irosk most people are quite polite when "arguing"

i hope he isn't online now

[scarlet timber]

Like people telling me bringing obscurus trolling but I'm like dude it's good weapon !!!

[lethal lagoon]

Literally everyone is crazy polite once the argument is over, you just can't rage quit before then.

[untold niche]

man will klill me

[scarlet timber]

Specially after h1 buffs

[lethal lagoon]

Actual troll

[unreal wasp]

I just like Illisi for the warp kills

[scarlet timber]

The only bad thing about obscurus is that it needs to block cancel

[lethal lagoon]

average Paul enjoyer coming into psyker chat.

Smh

[unreal wasp]

Also strokin' muh sword until I'm edging explosion

[scarlet timber]

L1 h2 block cancel and yes

I block cancel and my arms hurt

From doing it

[lethal lagoon]

"This weapon is good, but for it to be slightly worse than the other two, you have to try 10x as hard"

"Otherwise it's way worse"

[scarlet timber]

Yes but I love how fat it is!

[spice veldt]

block cancelling isn't that bad

[lethal lagoon]

Anything is bad compared to face rolling

[scarlet timber]

It's a fat sword !

[lethal lagoon]

[spice veldt]

although i guess my muscle memory is a bit unique

[lethal lagoon]

Now fun, is a good argument

[unreal wasp]

Skin, boom, fatter sword

[scarlet timber]

Well I run obscurus with my scryers gaze

[untold niche]

generally i would ask why mine bad and yours good and in detail.
I like psyker caht more because from my experience they help you out with what you want
As long as you admit straight up like "i want to run XYZ for the sake of it"
Then they explain the details in why they recommend certain stuff in YOUR context which i feels help alot

[scarlet timber]

Here is my argument for it

[lethal lagoon]

[scarlet timber]

It's the most generalist force sword if you willing to block cancel

[untold niche]

[scarlet timber]

So it can horde clear better than deimos and better single target than elissi

[potent echo]

Actually

[untold niche]

my opinion is that given psyker's ranged options you don't really need a generalist melee.

[potent echo]

I've been using obscurus lately

And I feel that Deimos clears way more easier

[scarlet timber]

Now you let me tell why I run that

Cuz skryer gaze

I run kantrael

Las pistol

With it so it compliment it very well

[spice veldt]

the clear is probably going to be similar since they have crit/weakspot falloff

since attack direction really doesn't matter much for hordeclear since crits/weakspots will only be 1.15x more damage on the 2nd target hit

[untold niche]

i don't use las pistol
is it supposed to be a generalist we apon as well? (genuinely don't know)

[scarlet timber]

I dont think he is right tbf h2 on obscurus

Got better cleave

Than deimos h1

[spice veldt]

they should have the same stats unless that was changed

i'm pretty sure only the obscurus h1 was changed though

just checking the calculator, deimos h1 and obscurus h2 still have the same stats

[untold niche]

is it? :v

like what role does it fill

[spice veldt]

pistol archetype weapon (so, quick swap times) and crit weapon

[untold niche]

iirc it fairs poorly not so nice against cara, but have decent movespeed and dps against every other elite/specialist right?

[spice veldt]

should have good enough or better adms besides carapace yeah

is also one of the higher sprint speed weapons

[scarlet timber]

I see then okay my bad

[spice veldt]

should have the same (or similar) scaling as knife

[untold niche]

then yeah, with your ranged options not having as good clear, and lacking real single target damage at least against cara, it makes sense why you would want a generalist melee.

most people take illisi because alot of psyker ranged has ver ygood single target, or ds4 because either they want/need the movespeed, or they are running something like purga (or just want to capitalize off DD gaze)

Thats what i see anyway.

also hank pls pin

[fading galleon]

I think pins should be reserved for more comprehensive guides or to alert players of critical bugs or something like that

[untold niche]

I see. thanks

[fading galleon]

Oh I see you guys already have some specific pins

(who tf pinned a lone surge build?)

[lethal lagoon]

I have no idea why, I wasn't there

[untold niche]

NOTTI

GOT CAUGHT RED HANDED

https://tenor.com/view/beat-up-monkey-gif-25333361

[lethal lagoon]

I will never forgive you for this most grievous insult to my character and my legacy

And above all else, I will never forgive the english language.

[untold niche]

your "legacy" : a pin in some non mainstream non cult following coop online game discord?

[lethal lagoon]

All my pins across all servers are the legacy of Atlas the Great.

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/alexswrld-alexswrid-monkey-gif-21748158

[lethal lagoon]

Good thing my name isn't Atlas, or that would be super sad.

[untold niche]

oh yeah you are arco right

did i type that correctly?

[lethal lagoon]

Yasucka

[untold niche]

if you bait a fool, but he doesn't get it.
Whos the real fool?

[lethal lagoon]

Probably still you.

You trascend all logic and reality

[untold niche]

do you mock a cow for not appreciating classical music?

[lethal lagoon]

I mean yeah, stupid beef, you deserve to be eaten.

[untold niche]

I rest my case

[unreal wasp]

Ye, dum moo, music make ear feel good

[lethal lagoon]

I rest deez nuts on your face

[untold niche]

you could have said "case of deez nuts"

yeah you should sto ptyhping in shame

that emote was for me tho

[lethal lagoon]

Why would I present a case of deez nuts, I'm not your wife talking to her boyfriend.

[untold niche]

your mom has a boyfriend now?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, sorry to break it to you buddy

[untold niche]

Its ok son

[lethal lagoon]

Don't worry father, I'll make sure your home has at least 2.5 stars.

[untold niche]

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

||i don't get the star thing but i will pretned i do||

[lethal lagoon]

Nursing homes in the U.S literally have google and yelp reviews like any store/resturant.

[untold niche]

goddam

i heard its pretty bad as well

like they scam yiour money and everything since its entirely private

[lethal lagoon]

for-private nursing homes are extremely horrific yeah.

I would never in a million years put my dad in one unless I was like disabled or something.

The overhead of board rooms and executives sucking money out of the home means very high patient to nurses, low nurse pay, etc.

It's not good.

[untold niche]

i would if i can't take care of them, but only in a public one. nevere a private one goddam.
My mom told me if she was ever too unreasonable when shes older just put her in one

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah I mean I'm being hyperbolic, but it's definitely a last resort type deal for me.

[untold niche]

actually would never put them in a private one.
At most i cut down on my job and hire extra help with cctv set up
(not sure how the toilet would work though ngl?)

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like we have similar mothers lmao

[untold niche]

mine is asian mom, so always right.

[lethal lagoon]

mine is slavic, so brutally honest about everything.

[untold niche]

eh mine isn't brutally honest

but i do get t ojoke around with her

no vulgarities though

[lethal lagoon]

"brutal" might be strong, oh she never cared about that.

I was kinda of an adult the moment I got my car at 16.

[untold niche]

its more of respect from my part? like they always told me not to swear but when you grow up in school its a norm, so naturally you jsut don't do it at home.
like i never wanted to swear at home anyway. maybe while gaming but thats it.

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, I get ya, I don't actually swear around her either, more like just catching me.

And not caring.

[lethal lagoon]

Gamer rage

Something about games seeming unfair can just really get your goat

[untold niche]

till this day i find it weird how comfortable i am swearing online.

[lethal lagoon]

I don't find it weird, you heathen.

english!

[untold niche]

no but im even this comfortable swearting irl

also atlas

your legacy

untouched

[lethal lagoon]

No thanks to you

[untold niche]

i can make it so

[potent echo]

It's more cool to swear online

But I also don't really do it

[untold niche]

when i was 9

https://youtube.com/shorts/x8ivn1kgbvs?si=tv-_SCqkCnyGbali

[lethal lagoon]

Swearing in person just makes you seem emotionally dysregulated and lacking the most basic of mental faculties.

[potent echo]

Is sus considered swearing

[lethal lagoon]

It's kinda sus you even asked that

[potent echo]

I'm 5

[lethal lagoon]

Wait

It's not clear which direction the pepe is going

[lethal lagoon]

What's the last build you ran on pysker, I'm bored.

[untold niche]

stasndard void build

1 sec

[lethal lagoon]

Standard

[untold niche]

Nexus surge, maniac cara on void

[potent echo]

Ew smite void

[untold niche]

#psyker-class message aitems are here

[lethal lagoon]

It's not smite void

He doesn't use smite

I assume

[potent echo]

Ew CDR void

[untold niche]

yeah duh

:v

[lethal lagoon]

I have been meaning to test out surge flurry

[potent echo]

Go assail and embrace no CDR

[lethal lagoon]

[potent echo]

Surge flurry gud

[lethal lagoon]

Mathmatically, if you are hitting enough headshots, it should be better than nexus.

[potent echo]

Except when fighting 10 crushers

Not as gud

[lethal lagoon]

42% versus 25.5%, but true aim works it's way in and makes it confusing. It lowers the 42% and raises the 25.5%

[potent echo]

When fighting 10 crushers nexus gives you free booms

[lethal lagoon]

If you have 20% extra crit, but crit from true aim, it's wasted.

Alternatively, more spd more true aim

[potent echo]

Better vs normal horde

Worse vs crushers because no pierce

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah but I can survive crushers just fine and if my teammates die, that's more dps

[potent echo]

Worse vs bulwarks too since you can't really decide when you get true aim vs bulwark stacks

[lethal lagoon]

Oh that's a problem I didn't consider

[potent echo]

General use more pew pew but less consistent vs fatties

[unreal yew]

is it wrong to play psyker by just shoking everything from the back?

purely ranged

[potent echo]

How do you define wrong

[untold niche]

I shok atlas mom from the back and it feels so right

[untold niche]

Also imagine, the 50% toughness on teammate death got changed to

For each teammate downed, 7% attack speed and 3% toughness TDR

[potent echo]

70%*

[unreal wasp]

When you stop using Venting Shriek as a safety net and instead use it off cooldown to apply big dot to large groups, keep brain burst rapid fire going on a monstrosity (while also applying dot), and save teammates from hounds (or other things) through hordes and walls

[untold niche]

Sounds more like a zealot thing. Hmm maybe change it to affect peril gen or quell speeds

[potent echo]

When you play psyker

[untold niche]

Peak gameplay is saving your VS for refreshing DD instead of saving your teammate that got dogged

[unreal wasp]

I went back to WB because I like using VS more

[untold niche]

What's WB

Warner Bros

[unreal wasp]

Warp Battery

[near wyvern]

I tested in creature spawner against a plague ogryn (standing still)

Flurry Surge is top DPS, then Flurry Nexus, then Nexus Surge.

However, that is assuming you hit only weakpots.

IMO if you go Surge you should pair it with Nexus because it's all about getting that double ball off on big targets as often as you can for consistency. If you go for stable DPS you want to go with Flurry Nexus.

Relying on True Aim alone in actual games is not enough to keep up Perfect Aim and the difference between Flurry Surge & Flurry Nexus under ideal conditions was around 10% DPS so not dropping Perfect Timing is more important.

[untold niche]

You can go DD VS tho

[unreal wasp]

But Warp Battery

[untold niche]

Sorry warp battery not hitting my void BPs

[potent echo]

WB resident sleeper

No points

Can't take fun stuff

[near wyvern]

DD is nice for void so you can click heads from miles away cause the game spots them out for you

And void has decent crit & weakspot multipliers

[unreal wasp]

I haven't used a staff for like 90% of my Psyker experience

[untold niche]

Where's his peepee

[near wyvern]

Good for you I guess?

[untold niche]

Actually overpowered but some slight skill floor depending on the staff. You should try it

[potent echo]

Level 1 psyker

[unreal wasp]

Me run into hordes and melee, pull out gun to quickshoot special running at me without having to worry about peril when I'm constantly edging peril with Illisi

[near wyvern]

I did a heresy as a lvl 1 psyker without getting downed at all, was swettier than an auric mael on my main

[untold niche]

Maybe yo u would like gunker with revolver, assail,and ds4

[potent echo]

Psyker starting loadout was like what

[untold niche]

Else just play zealot really

[potent echo]

Autopistol?

[unreal wasp]

I didn't like assail

[untold niche]

Without downed at all sounds very hard

[near wyvern]

That was in beta

[unreal wasp]

Smite was ok, but ever since beta I've just liked brain burst

[upper sun]

doing anything higher than malice as a level 1 sounds awful

[potent echo]

Revolver now?

[near wyvern]

Yup, because you have like no toughness at all and only coherency regen and melee kills to get it back

[potent echo]

Totally not cursed

[untold niche]

Idk how is assail in beta, and I don't like it either but alot of people like it and it's a fun part of gunker.

Frankly if you enjoy the melee xombat much more you could also try purga ds4 or just run zealot

[potent echo]

There's no assail in beta

[near wyvern]

Yeah but revolver was the start gun in beta

[unreal wasp]

Didn't say it was, just meaning I've liked Brain Burst since it was the only option

[untold niche]

I have no skill too

[near wyvern]

Sprint slides sprint slides sprint slides

[untold niche]

Wait how do you even load up heresy as level 1

[potent echo]

Friend

[near wyvern]

You group up with a buddy

[untold niche]

Ooo

[potent echo]

Harder than playing lvl1 heresy

[near wyvern]

There was 2x lvl 30+ players (ogryn and a vet), one lvl 16 Ogryn and me lvl 1 psyker

[unreal wasp]

Actually real, have friends that have owned and played Darktide but I'm the only one that still plays

[untold niche]

Darktidr on launch sucks

[near wyvern]

You can try to get them back in the game after the crafting update hits, no point to do it before that

[unreal wasp]

Nah, I don't think that'll be anything to them, a few of them started playing again after the talent trees got updated and dropped again

[untold niche]

They dropped on p13?

That kind of sad

I tried beta and nope out but p13 was when i bought the game, was reallyfun for me

[potent echo]

Pre13 vet was wild

[unreal wasp]

Personally thought melee gunker was fun before P13

[potent echo]

Even more brain off than smiteker

[unreal wasp]

Basically

My current build, is basically just my pre-P13 build

[near wyvern]

pre-13 gunker was viable but Assail made so many more guns a viable option

[potent echo]

DD giving BPs is amazing

[near wyvern]

I hope infantry lasguns will get buffed at the crafting update cause they are just sinking

[lethal lagoon]

That's interesting.

I trust my aim more than my ability to care enough to edge for warp nexus.

[potent echo]

iLas are very decent now

[unreal yew]

I don't know why, but how can the psyker get toughness back besides being in coherency?

I feel like a paper that can't get toughness back

[unreal wasp]

Warp kills, warp generation, warp quelling

[lethal lagoon]

A tisket a tasket come in my basket.

[near wyvern]

Now? They have been getting worse and worse. They were very decent two patches ago.

[unreal wasp]

Basically the entire reason I use Illisi instead of shock maul, chainsword, etc etc etc

[potent echo]

How are they getting worse

[lethal lagoon]

Get in

[potent echo]

Like relatively or

[near wyvern]

Enemy HP pool changes pushing them just out of the breaking points

[potent echo]

Like on bulwarks?

[near wyvern]

Recon lasgun VId is literally better than any infantry lasgun

[potent echo]

Debatable

[lethal lagoon]

Recon soliders get paid more than infantry.

It's obvious

[near wyvern]

And Assail weave removal was final nerf to the infantry lasgun coffing

[potent echo]

It's not that bad

[upper sun]

pretty sure infantry lasgun does zero boss damage unlike recon too

[lethal lagoon]

But you admit it is bad.

[potent echo]

Worse doesn't mean unusable

I think mainly it's just boring

[near wyvern]

Deadly accurate + Bonus damage on first shot was the only thing that made infantry lasguns actually good, throw a couple assails, they land as you line up your headshot, fire once or twice, repeat

[potent echo]

So there's no incentive to cope over how viable it is

[upper sun]

it feels bad

[lethal lagoon]

Infantry lasgun is one of the worst weapon feels in the agme

[near wyvern]

Currently you cannot guarantee any meaningful one shots against elite gunners and specialists, even two shots are a bit sweaty

Recon VId is simply more efficient at killing soft elites and specialists with less emphasis on accurate aim, it's a point and click adventure

[potent echo]

Just shoot twice it's not that much different

[upper sun]

CLICK CLICK CLICK BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJquV0D2SBc

me using infantry lasgun

[near wyvern]

It is. Shooting twice affects your TTK and it means the enemy might walk away, at harder difficulties you often get a quick glance at a specialist / elite and if you don't kill it in one shot the moment is gone

[upper sun]

ye or at least stagger it with the first shot

[near wyvern]

Bolt Pistol is everything the XII lasgun dreams to be

[upper sun]

boltpistol still feels bad too

[near wyvern]

You need a correct roll on it and it will meet extremely good breakpoints

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1260387568042905720/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.07.10_-_03.08.51.02.png?ex=66a197e5&is=66a04665&hm=c5c7b4bf33f21c495ad4d1320e7fa215032f70decf3a7c19c96aaff2d06c39de&

[near wyvern]

This is the way

[near wyvern]

Wrong perk, you need +maniac instead of +flak

[upper sun]

muh gunners tho

[near wyvern]

Will be one shot

[unreal wasp]

Warp Battery

[upper sun]

with puncture 4 alone?

[near wyvern]

I believe warp battery is enough for that

On scab gunners

[upper sun]

man idk i still feel the gun is undertuned

[unreal wasp]

Does the explosion count for puncture btw?

[near wyvern]

Nope, it's in a very good spot

https://youtu.be/va3iEKPDZ7Q?si=KXPaiKf70JNwirpb

[near wyvern]

Direct hit only gets puncture

[unreal wasp]

D a m n

Wanted horde bleed

[near wyvern]

It's still crazy good

The puncture

4 shots = bleed capped

[unreal wasp]

Horde bleed with horde soulblaze would be FUNNY

[near wyvern]

It's the reason you can body shot a reaper in 4 hits

[unreal wasp]

Do I need to? No. Do I want to? Yes.

[upper sun]

my sibling the gun is handling so badly you're qq switching after every shot

[near wyvern]

There needs to be a balance factor for this monstrosity

It is an absolute beast when used correctly

[potent echo]

You can't say bolt pistol is the replacement but ignore stuff like handling and magsize

[unreal wasp]

Bolt Pistol go boom twice

[empty ocean]

thoughts

[potent echo]

What's there to think about

[wind spruce]

That's a weapon alright

[hardy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-brick-throw-kiss-boys-gif-11348714524182573531

[compact cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/brick-baseball-return-hit-bat-gif-6233024645314828157

[clear bridge]

Upgrade it and see

[vernal temple]

oh boy, a truelevel 500+ popped 4 times during the entire mission

dunno why, but that was funny

[potent echo]

Sometimes it happens

[quartz barn]

I saw a legend last night pop on accident, and then walked forward into the horde so it would atleast do some dmg

[vernal temple]

oh yeah I've seen that happen too. dude screams as he's about to pop and just rushes into a horde

[brazen rampart]

Average smiteker player.

[vernal temple]

as a smite psyker I feel attacked

[upper sun]

as u should

you dont really feel it when you play smite but feel it when the enemy i was about to melee goes on down

[untold niche]

I use it on vet and it's very underwhelming. I hope it at least pierce one bulwark.

[upper sun]

and instead of getting 6 weakspot hits i have to aim at the ground and do little damage

[untold niche]

20k plasteel and all I get is regret

[upper sun]

save at least 20k for the crafting rework

[vernal temple]

I mostly use smite only during "oh shit!" situations or to control a horde of poxers

95% of the time I have my surge staff out

[untold niche]

I have 0 plasteel now and honestly I don't really feel like playing thr game

[vernal temple]

ouch

[upper sun]

Yeah you need a break

[upper sun]

same tbh

i have it with surge but maybe use it once every 3-4 games

[vernal temple]

I find it super helpful when the team stumbles upon a horde of ragers

that's one of my "oh shit!" moments

[untold niche]

Yeah you really should only use smite on mixed horde or cases like this. No point using them on zombies.
We just hate smite for 2 reasons.

1. Its stupidly powerful AND
2. It turns the game into kovaak for everyone else.

After 1-2 weeks of having a full build and so learning smite alongside it I just decided to never use smite again lol

Technically the third reason is that most people they experience that uses smite sucks but that's extremely biased so I didn't put that in.

It's too highly rewarding for how easy it is to make the decision to use it ( adding that it has no real coolsown) and how it has basically no execution barrier

Ngl thr worst is when you get 1 smite user and 1 voc vet and all you have to do is fucking walk forward

[raw coral]

And just blow up faster?

[quartz barn]

I dont mind smite when used correctly

I just dislike dumbasses who run smite without ep and claim that its super beneficial to the team

[vernal temple]

Smite without EP is like PB&J without the J

[quartz barn]

"Why do my pubs not kill the smited enemies"

Bro do it yourself

[upper sun]

kinetic flayer is bad

kinetic resonance speeds up the channel speed which also reduces the peril generated since its per second

[patent jacinth]

You can also do extremely silly dps against bosses if you take the 2 shields instead of dome because the buff stacks

But kinetic resonance by itself is enough to do like 1/2 or 1/3 of a bosses hp

[wind spruce]

No... kill enemies faster when you need to brain burst.

Decent psykers don't blow their tops because of major buffs to their blitzes

[upper sun]

celery stim 🤤

[patent jacinth]

I should test the kill time against a boss with 2 stacks of resonance

[quartz barn]

Shriek safety net my beloved

[patent jacinth]

I wonder if we’ll ever get something like Unchained’s Abandon

[quartz barn]

Kinda doubt it

[patent jacinth]

Yeah

Abandon was fucked

[quartz barn]

Psyker's skill setup is pretty much complete

You're already short on points so the current setup works

Meanwhile ogryn just sticks to all left, middle or right

[untold niche]

smite without EP is still plenty strong.

like my whole text wall is smite without EP

[quartz barn]

Speaking of strong

I ran trauma for once yesterday

Easy 1.1m run and we didnt even clear it lmao

Was a 3 man relay station mostly melee am because the mission swapped mid run

Friend of mine wasnt even allowed to join even though we have 1 bot...

[untold niche]

mission swapped mid run?

[quartz barn]

Ye the am mission timer on the board

[upper sun]

maelstrom expired so they couldnt get new people

leaving a maelstrom kinda shitty ngl

[quartz barn]

I also learned that bots can do the hacking minigame unless someone in the lobby modded that

[upper sun]

wut

[quartz barn]

Boi did it while surrounded by a horde too?

Ye idk no one was nearby and it just progressed

[wind spruce]

They should just be able to join on you in socials?

[quartz barn]

Not allowed

[wind spruce]

Hmmm

[quartz barn]

They got an error that they werent able to join the session

[upper sun]

they really gotta add custom games at some point

i wanna try to play a mission with triple the intensity of a high auric but with 8 bots

[zinc phoenix]

Idk why they don’t do this, I’d also like larger teams with more stuff happening

Plus, hey, give me a tank to drive!

[upper sun]

game can clearly support it too

ive had bugged missions with 1-2 extra bots

the ai seemed to work just fine

[jovial juniper]

Yeah just the UI went awol

[upper galleon]

Did you have someone in that slot and they left? Could be they were just sitting on the “reconnect?” Prompt and saving the spot

[quartz barn]

Nah they left at the start

[upper sun]

some people have no etiquette do not join a maelstrom unless you are willing to stay steated for 25-45 minutes

[upper galleon]

Then they prob say at the reconnect screen or they closed out and the server was saving their spot

It’s supposed to be just 5 minutes but i know that can bug to last the whole mission

[upper sun]

reconnect screen times out

[upper galleon]

Yes but it can also bug out

[untold niche]

wait why do you blow up faster on kinetic resonance

its decreased peril gen as well

[golden stirrup]

Hi, looking at the pinned example builds... I might be completely thick here, as it's clearly abbreviated but what weapon is "DS4"
Deimos MK4 Force Sword?

[jovial juniper]

Dueling Sword Mk 4

[golden stirrup]

AH! thank you

[broken carbon]

wha

[jovial juniper]

Probably forgot to account for the reduced peril gen

So you'd cast Head Pop faster

And 3 casts go critical peril

[upper sun]

you dont

he made an oopsie i used to think the same way until someone said something and i pretended to have always known that

[quartz barn]

Is the blow up time always the same then?

Because in vt sienna has a long version that you can save yourself from with unchained and a short one thats near instant

[broken carbon]

lmfao

ksill issue

[untold niche]

ogryn was flaming me

then i just said

sorry my mom did not teach me how to play

he was very mad

most disgusting build known to man

[wind spruce]

You generate less peril per brain burst with resonance active is what they mean

But even if you didn't... one could just, you know, quell...

[vernal agate]

What do yall think i should change about this weapon? think ill keep the blessings but other than that?

+elite dmg and +flak dmg? or should I go for +crit chance?

[late sapphire]

flak, elite/crit is BIS

[jovial juniper]

Getting trapped, pox hounded, mutie grabbed will immediately explode you if you're on the PoW animation
That's the only instances, I think

Well, probably caught by CS and Bon as well

[upper sun]

hunting grounds

ew

no

[untold niche]

i just clicked mael

i don't e ven know what condition it was

voc wep spec vet feels even more busted than maryr zealot

[wind spruce]

Clady, hunting grounds has been an unobjectionable modifier for aaaaaaages now

[untold niche]

what does that mean

unobjectionable

[hearty dagger]

Ngl i prefer infiltrate wep spec vet

[upper sun]

idk man

[wind spruce]

Like, not something something should be complained about

[upper sun]

my scab maelstroms dont have 10 pox bombers in a row

last time i tried one of them my team wiped in 4 seconds

[untold niche]

ohh, why do you say that?
As in why hunting grounds shouldn't complain

[wind spruce]

The lil doggies are just so easy to deal with, especially on psyker

That's why

[untold niche]

eh i don't think it matters that much, but voc makes your entire team like unkillable basically, sometimes i even feel bad about using it too much

[upper sun]

trappers dogs muties none of that is an issue

but fucking poxwalkers

[untold niche]

ahh
i thought clad said ew because the hunting grounds were too easy

[wind spruce]

Bursters?

[upper sun]

err

yeah sorry tired

[wind spruce]

Maybe he did, but I assumed it was the same as his feelings towards hab dreyko

[hearty dagger]

Eh, i prefer infiltrate wep spec since you can get off some gnarly backstabs

[upper sun]

actually

i changed my mind about hab dreyko

[wind spruce]

Me too sorry if I misinterpreted you

[untold niche]

the zealot was running chorus and the whole time our toughness was yellow.

[jovial juniper]

The other day, at Malice level, all four of us got caught by the Hunting Grounds dogs
And they stopped neutralizing us at the same time

[upper sun]

its kinda easy now

[untold niche]

how come?

[wind spruce]

Well I've been meaning to come at you about that too, so I'm glad

[upper sun]

like stupidly easy after the end event change

[wind spruce]

Hehe

[untold niche]

i preferred old hab dreyko

it was more satisfyign when you beat it

[upper sun]

man its unreal how much easier it is now

yeah

but i dunno still my last game before it got reworked

[wind spruce]

Much easier, eh

[upper sun]

i was standing in place FOR 5 MINUTES

[wind spruce]

It's still pretty intense compared to a lot of the end of mission events

[upper sun]

the second i stopped purging i died

[untold niche]

also, im running caxe + kant shotgun + krak
everything just dies while my toughness is yellow.
Im never touching this build again
Absolutely disgusting

[upper sun]

the waves were non stop

[untold niche]

i think if you have two hp packs and you place them around the trees it gets way more easy, somehting you can't do with old hab dreyko

[upper sun]

i think we hit 3k kills and all of it was at the end

[untold niche]

wait genuine questionm is 3k kills alot

[wind spruce]

True dat

[jovial juniper]

It was weird
dog caught the players that were far away, then me and then the last teammate
I thought it was GG but the dogs simply stopped biting us

[untold niche]

i normally just look at damage for overall

[upper sun]

ye

[wind spruce]

Yes

[upper sun]

it was stupid

[untold niche]

ah

[upper sun]

i dont have scoreboard so i have to settle for kills 😭

[untold niche]

maybe director sees thaty ou play malice

[wind spruce]

2k is pretty standard

[untold niche]

i went back to see the match i just had, damn i didjn't even hit 1k LOL

[wind spruce]

I mean for all four players, though

[untold niche]

ohh sorry

i thought you guys meant 2k per player

[wind spruce]

You're all good

That would be insane

[upper sun]

2k per play would be a 2 hour slug fest

[wind spruce]

Yeah 1k is a lot of kills

[untold niche]

go to one of the maps with infinite zombos spawn at the end
stand there.
Upload scoreboard to discord
Flex'

[wind spruce]

And usually means the other players are at 400-600

[wind spruce]

Competition to see who can get 1 mill damage, but in the least amount of time

That's the real flex

[untold niche]

blaze trauma prob wins that tho right

[wind spruce]

Probably

Assail, shriek, DD voidstrike would give it a fair go

[hearty dagger]

Man, i need to do 25 more missions to wrap up every vet penance

But i really can't be arsed

[untold niche]

i don't think DD voidstrike would win, as a biased void main.

[untold niche]

stop caring about the penance

[wind spruce]

It's a pretty destructive build

[hearty dagger]

But cool chestpiece ;-;

Is so close

[untold niche]

eh, just spend 20 dollars

ezpz

life is simple when you have money

[wind spruce]

I can't remember the last time I've been out damaged running it

[hearty dagger]

Can't spend 20 dollars for the loyalist moebian stuff

[wind spruce]

Actually I can, it was another voidstrike user

[untold niche]

most of the time i either get out damaged by a very good vet or someone running blaze trauma yeah

[untold niche]

just spend 20 on another cool skin and forget the penance skin exist

[hearty dagger]

But i can't

[wind spruce]

Gotta weave in more assails

[untold niche]

penance sucks, just imagine the skin doesn't exist

[wind spruce]

Aggressive assailing with aggressive quelling

[untold niche]

nah i still prefer not running assail

[hearty dagger]

Also, i'm so pissed off about ogryn and zealot penances

[untold niche]

your gameplay looks cool and fast apm but i don't know if its as effective

[hearty dagger]

I'm 58/60 for Gone Bowling and 39/40 for Shocking Stuff

[jovial juniper]

Yeah, starting to think it's a pity system for Malice, needs more testing though

[wind spruce]

Yeah without assail void won't beat blaze trauma

[wind spruce]

My next lot of full length videos will be assail void showcases

[untold niche]

i think 2 months ago i would ask yo uto explain in detail why assail is good in voidstrike because i feel it just complicates stuff and assail doesn't pierce all that much but at this point im ready to quit the game for 3 months again

[untold niche]

ngl im more interesting in the actual gameplay than how effective it is.
The gameplay clip you shared looks really cool.

interested

[wind spruce]

Well I'll hurry up my videos a bit. Maybe this weekend.

Anyway beddy time for me

[untold niche]

oki

gn

same for me

[wind spruce]

Night mate

[quartz barn]

I still have bb on void in case enemies run behind corners

[untold niche]

b4 i go @lethal lagoon
gottem

[untold niche]

thats what VS is for. its defo not for saving your teammates from dogs (they deserve it)

[quartz barn]

I guess, too bad i have bubble on void

Still get 600k+ dmg anyway

[upper sun]

wow i wonder how on such a weak weapon

[hearty dagger]

I kinda wanna run Warp Charges again

[untold niche]

i jsut really hate using BB anyway
And void clips thru cover slightly in seriousness.

[hearty dagger]

But god Warp Charges are expensive talent point wise

[upper sun]

GO AHEAD

RUN WARP CHARGES

[hearty dagger]

Exactly my point lmao

I guess compared to DD they're a bit more utility oriented but holy shit they need to cut down on some of those nodes

[upper sun]

final form of warp siphon is basket with only one point into warp siphon

[hearty dagger]

lmao

[quartz barn]

The order also makes no sense

[hearty dagger]

Ngl, if i was in charge of balancing or anything i'd just merge some stuff with basekit Warp Siphon because honestly, how the FUCK is base warp siphon just CDR?

[quartz barn]

Atleast with the other nodes you can pick between longer uptime or stronger effect

[hearty dagger]

Yeah

[untold niche]

i think its because they want to differentiate warp from DD and EP

[quartz barn]

Not really

[hearty dagger]

Warp Siphon is just old Warp Charges but objectively worse because you need 5 TP to have old warp charges back

WITHOUT counting hte previous 3 nodes just to get to it

[untold niche]

how come

[quartz barn]

Its the other way around + psyker had a ton of warp charges nodes before they reworked the skill tree

[hearty dagger]

If you take VS or TS, it's straight up 10 fucking TP just to have full warp charges

[untold niche]

whats TP

[hearty dagger]

Talent Point

[quartz barn]

Talent point

[untold niche]

oo

[hearty dagger]

Like holy shit, Psyker already has a dogshit talent tree (in terms of layout) and now you need 1/3rd of your entire build specifically dedicated to Warp Charge

[upper sun]

Tbh i think it should have 4 upgrades directly connected to the keystone damage/lower peril gen/charge 10% chance to gain charge on your kills/ 4% on team kills with you being able to only get one of the last two

[hearty dagger]

More if you're crazy and run SG

[quartz barn]

Ep and DD were made with the new tree in mind and are simplified skill node wise

[untold niche]

i guess its somewhat understandable as full warp charges have same BPs as DD

[untold niche]

oooo

[upper sun]

make it 6 charges by default

[untold niche]

then would htere be any point in running DD

[quartz barn]

When do you even get to 6 charges

[upper sun]

yes

DD is better