psyker-class

[jovial juniper]

Which is extra funny to think because they changed the map a bit but left that untouched

[spice veldt]

at least i don't have to get through rubber pads to open the back up

[lyric burrow]

Those are ass

[upper sun]

i hope the people who design screws behind pads have very awful days for the rest of their lives

uhh it looks good :333 tho FUCK YOU I WANNA REPLACE YOUR DOG SHIT HEATSINK AND FAN COMBO

[lyric burrow]

Simply buy a mac then you dont have to worry about replacing anything 🙂

[upper sun]

yeah aside from my brain

[lyric burrow]

True

[haughty star]

Or that pesky gaming thing

[upper sun]

Geforce now runs on mac

you can unironically game on a mac now

[haughty star]

That's not gayming

[lyric burrow]

Get stadia

[haughty star]

Lol game on something else through a Mac is not the answer lol

[lyric burrow]

The average mac is also the price of a gaming pc

Or more

[haughty star]

And it can't game

[lyric burrow]

Huge value honestly

[upper sun]

Ummm actually some of us have more important things to do than game

[haughty star]

If you have important things to do you use windows

[lyric burrow]

Good thing every other pc cant do these things

[upper sun]

I need my mac so i can move files from my IPhone to my Mac very quickly and check my email

can ur pc do that?!!?!?1

[haughty star]

Yes

[lyric burrow]

If your like an art student or something i can see mac

Thats kinda it tho

[upper sun]

nah all the best art students use a tablet from 7 years ago

if you see macs theyre posers

[haughty star]

I use a 4 year old quad core hp elite book to steam link with lol

Works like a charm

[upper sun]

ye

what an age we live in

[long wharf]

The days of Macs being the superior art/audio workstation are long past

[lyric burrow]

Technology

[haughty star]

I used to use my phone but it's small and gets hot

[long wharf]

Despite what Apple zealots will tell you, PC hardware has been more than sufficient for several generations now

[haughty star]

Got this craptop from a college auction for 40 bucks lol

[rain meadow]

what are our thought on pyromancer psyker builds?

full flames

[upper sun]

BUT uhhh the M1 chip is so good it does everything!!! it even braught my dad back from the dead

[haughty star]

And put 16gb of sodimm in it from my old piece of shit acer predator

[upper sun]

on pure and trauma very good

[rain meadow]

personally, its been the only build ive enjoyed on psyker in my couple hundred hours of playtime

[haughty star]

I've really been enjoying yell with a gun and dd

Ds4

[rain meadow]

purg staff + venting shriek + brain blast + warp syphon

has been my go to

for as long as ive been playing psyker

[haughty star]

Not smite assail

[jovial juniper]

10/10 would not bring on vent purge

[rain meadow]

with various force swords making an appearence

[upper sun]

i do EP with deimos

[rain meadow]

ah, but counterpoint
creeping flames

[haughty star]

Dd is unironically so good now

Probably one of the most overtuned keystones

[rain meadow]

you know
the funny kill all chaf in a 40 meter radius button
that creeping flames 🙃

[jovial juniper]

Creeping Flames are goated
That's just fax
Unfortunately

[haughty star]

They should figure out a way to make shield do some damage

Like things inside of bubble take dot

[rain meadow]

my psyker tends to never go below ~30% peril while in combat

[haughty star]

Mine rarely ever sees the low side of 80

[rain meadow]

well venting shriek just instaquells 50%

and if i get a couple of battle meditation proc off of it...

[haughty star]

Ewwwwe BM

[rain meadow]

🤷

[rain meadow]

my build does mostly 2 things
a) never caring about peril management
b) BURN THE HERETICS

any time spent manually quelling in combat is time NOT spent purging heretics with warp flame

it is time wasted

and with the number of chaf enemies I kill, i get a pretty decent amount of BM procs

worth

[supple dock]

this is the correct response

Warp Rider and One With The Warp are too massive to not upkeep imo

UNLESS you're using scrier's gaze or focusing on using smite

and I'm pretty sure those are the only real times to use battle meditation too

Maybe if you use transfer peril/warp flurry void

[haughty star]

My buddy was watching me do the smite and surge with charges thing the other day and he said watching me was giving him anxiety lol

[supple dock]

so smite with charges is fine if you aren't focusing on smite

If you use it almost exclusively for "oh shit make a little space" then that's fine

If you wanna use smite to dominate the world? Need EP

[analog agate]

Yes

[haughty star]

Yeah that build is more about the surge than anything

But smite+shriek spam is pretty hilarious at times once you shout a couple times

[upper sun]

man i hope they dont nerf anything with the crafting update

there are still so many disgusting weapons that i couldnt built

i wanna try out all the cancer before its fixed

[rain meadow]

i THINK they are?
i think maximum theorhetical power of weapons is going to be lower, from what some people are saying

looking at their reasoning about how they came to that conclusion

im inclined to agree?

[upper sun]

just gimmie a week to enjoy shit 😭

my best rashad has unarmored 3 flak 4 decap4 brutal 4

i wanna at least try it with unarmored 4 and headtaker 4 before it gets braught back in line

[rain meadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2fjIm8hYJY
found the video

despite SOUNDING insane, his reasoning is pretty good

[upper sun]

tanner

OK thank god

[rain meadow]

yeah, ik

[upper sun]

yeah ive seen that

[rain meadow]

so you know what im getting at

he SOUNDS deranged

im not arguing that

[upper sun]

he is

[rain meadow]

but like

his reasoning is pretty sound

[supple dock]

from what I've heard

psyker is going to be getting hit with the nerffstick

which yeah fair enough

I just wonder how they're gonna do it

[upper sun]

that was an old buildof the crafting update

also there is no use in theory crafting until they come out with the Q&A

[rich spindle]

He soubds like mandark from dexters lab

[upper sun]

besides they said more than once you keep everything and you get a choice with all blessings and perks

my theory is you lets say they release a new weapon

you get xp on that weapon for upgrading it from a base

and for playing that weapon

[rich spindle]

I dont care if they change everything up massively most of the blessings are boring

[upper sun]

the more you play it or upgrade it the higher perks and blessings you can put on it

[rain meadow]

true, im HOPEFUL that the max power level will be the same if not higher, with the benefit of being able to REACH that max more easily and with more control

[upper sun]

if you just buy a base and roll say groaners stamina bs blessings you have them in t3-t4

[rich spindle]

Id also like it if the blessings became way worse overall and maelstroms became legitimately hard even for vets

[rain meadow]

i think that would likely be best for the health of the game
if its not, everyone who has reallllllly good weapons right now is going to be not happy

[upper sun]

but if you wanna change them into something you want you have to use T1s until you level up with the weapon

if you have max xp with the weapon

[rain meadow]

my one concern with this is the blessings that dont start at one

ex: powercycler

[upper sun]

sorry brother

but yeah if you have max xp you can put any t4 you want

thats how i'm hoping it would work

[rain meadow]

i dont have BM on a TON of weapons, and they gain a LOT of power out of it

and grinding a whole bunch of pretty much dead axes until i find one with BM just isnt my idea of fun

[upper sun]

idk they added numbers to single tier blessings which would mean they want you to unlock lower tiers of it

[upper sun]

very true

you can legit feel the difference between BM t3 and t4

idc what people say

[rain meadow]

BM is kind of a special case tho, as it adds an incredibly flexible mechanic to weapons that can obtain it

[rich spindle]

Isnt the difference 5% weakspot

[rain meadow]

with the added benefit of just

more weakspot damage

[upper sun]

yes BUT

[rain meadow]

which EVERY weapon wants

[upper sun]

idc

i can legit feel it

[rich spindle]

Thats placebo bro

[upper sun]

rashad has such fucking strict breakpoints

[rain meadow]

hell, even if it was JUST more weakspot damage
BM would be pretty good

[upper sun]

every bit helps

IDC LALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU

[rich spindle]

Dont u have decapitator

[upper sun]

ye

[rich spindle]

That might be why

[upper sun]

maybe

[rain meadow]

although, yeah i forgot BM does actually start at 1

[upper sun]

finesse with any extra weakspot does WORK

[rain meadow]

power cycler, on the other hand...

does ACTUALLy start at 3

and uh
power cycler gud

[rich spindle]

With headtaker you would not notice

[upper sun]

like its crazy

with one swing you can kill 4 groaners

[untold niche]

just some asian try hards xd

[rich spindle]

Decapitator is a much more interesting blessing than headtaker, I hope it gets a spotlight in the rework

[upper sun]

we owe much to the asian server 🙏 so much funny bs was discovered there

did you guys do the assassination mission elevator skips?

[untold niche]

i haven't encountered that yet, or i don't know what you are talking about

[upper sun]

it was fixed like 2 patches ago

[untold niche]

a popular one is the map with the arena at the end, theres on box you can jump on
their pathing just breaks

[upper sun]

shit was so funny

[radiant frigate]

force cycler when?

illisi goes shwing

[untold niche]

you have video?

[upper sun]

in magistrati oubliette you could jump off the box in the final section to the boss arena

its on a harddrive somewhere

itll take forever

[haughty star]

I personally don't feel psyker does need a nerf. It's the toughest character to play it should work well when played properly

[rich spindle]

I need to aee this

[upper sun]

but yeah you could also go down to the lower level through a jump

aaaaaaa

FINE

FINE

[rich spindle]

You mean the assasination mission?

[upper sun]

yes

[untold niche]

but hje still don't know what you are talking about

hence please show video

https://tenor.com/view/giantsbetta-small-monkey-monkey-backpack-monkey-gif-13385757124521273001

[upper sun]

it got deleted off streamable

give me 2-5 business days to reupload it

[rich spindle]

Understood

Im assuming u mean oen of the boxes by the elevator

[upper sun]

SPEAK OF THE DEVIL

CHECK NEWS

[rich spindle]

And you just dodge slide off it

[upper sun]

C H E C K N E W S

[untold niche]

where is news

[upper sun]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/itemization-rework-q-a-part-1-dev-blog/97316

[untold niche]

oh i just found it, thanks for sending it as well

The amount of Mastery XP is based on what difficulty the player plays. The higher the difficulty, the higher amount of XP is awarded. Experience gained will remain the same, no matter the weapon you use the most during a mission.

If you fail a run, you will be awarded a portion of the XP just as with normal Experience and Ordo Docket rewards.

[winter bloom]

someone here summoned the blog

[untold niche]

prepare for more noobs in a5mael

mic-drop.png

[upper sun]

fuck im so smart

"Also, loot is still part of the system. The fact that we are still keeping the RNG loot system in place (Emperor’s Gift, Sire Melk’s Requisitorium, The Armoury Exchange, and the ability to Consecrate weapons at Hadron’s Shrine with random upgrades, etc) will allow players to get to weapon builds that they have not unlocked in their Mastery before they actually get there. The loot system will be able to shortcut you to things that you have not yet unlocked."

XP+RNG

real

[untold niche]

@upper sun this is still the saddest part

[upper sun]

itll be bad for a few eeks

" Every weapon now has the potential to reach a 380" thanks but i already have 380s of every weapon just unbrick them

[untold niche]

io think much more than a few weeks
once new players recognize that more xp for harder difficulty surely everyone will play harder difficulties

[upper sun]

"However, we can say that we’re opening up more weapon families to be shared between all classes. It’s still case by case, but for example, shotguns will be available for all classes."

AAAAAAAAAAA LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO

[rich spindle]

Soooo wont 330s technically be better than 380s now

Because you can improve the 330 to an ideal distribution

But the 380 cant be decreased in dump stats

[untold niche]

that assuming its cheap to upgrade to 380

[ripe obsidian]

330s are still random distribution

[rich spindle]

Yes but less likely to have "wasted" stats

[ripe obsidian]

You can't say, "I will max damage and spread and drop mobility"

The stats are predefined.

[upper sun]

if its already "ok" at 330 itll be great at 380

[untold niche]

if it took as much resources to upgrade from 330 to 380
as an average amount to get a god roll 380, then not much diff

[upper sun]

because chances are you never would have kept a 330 wthat doent have max damage or max first target

[ripe obsidian]

DISCLAIMER: The following images are NOT representative of the final UI / work for Itemization. They are meant to illustrate the different potential stat distributions of a maxed out weapon (the darker grey number).

[untold niche]

could very well take you 5 million dockets to go fro m330 to 380

[upper sun]

(still mid)

[rich spindle]

It takes 10 million to roll a good 380

Lol

[rich spindle]

Ah... so the low roll will never be able to reach 80

[untold niche]

did you do the math?
or just anecdotal

[rich spindle]

Anecdotal

[untold niche]

exactly

[ripe obsidian]

It can reach 80 if it rolled 80.

[rich spindle]

Lol

[rich spindle]

Thats not what I meant

But yeah

I get it

[untold niche]

i don't kn ow whats the "average amount" either, the 5 million was just a random number.
But my main point is this.

you could just need one roll to roll a god roll 380.

[rich spindle]

From what im understanding each weapon is rolled as a potential 380

That it can reach

And if that potential 380 has 60% in damage you cannot go higher

[upper sun]

ye

[untold niche]

whats the base value for level 30 weapon rolls?

like lowest you can get

[rich spindle]

300?

I think

[untold niche]

i think its calculatable, "with repetition and order does not matter"
though uh, one stat being strictly lower, i prob need to ask around.

Pretty sure any CS person would be able to answer this.

@upper sun @lethal lagoon
atm too lazy to dig up my notes, any idea?

its just a very slightly harder part of probability

clad you are doing masters

no escape

[supple dock]

it's 300

[haughty star]

Bm isn't about the weakspot damage

[rich spindle]

Woah...

[haughty star]

Turns weapons like ogryn shield and Rashad into good hording weapons

[rich spindle]

Wow

[analog agate]

I like seeing that. Same rng system will remain. So if ai don’t want to struggle through a weapon that sucks early on without good blessing I can always just do what I do now

Not like I will exactly need to do that as I have almost all blessings unlocked… but still like that option

[night moat]

Is mobility the main dump stat for psykers force swords?

[mossy surge]

warp res.

[supple dock]

warp res primary, mobility secondary

[quick python]

If you dump mobility prepare to eat shit constantly

[untold niche]

anyone stacks nvidia DLSS with the AMD super whatever thing

[upper galleon]

Shouldnt change anything until you hit your first dodge count BP

Force swords have above average dodges

[hearty dagger]

Shotguns on psyker

Shotguns on psyker

Guys, you remember the numbers someone ran, right?
DD psyker with a slug shotgun one shots crushers

[quick python]

It also effects dodge distance

[thorn cedar]

geeb us the shootguns

[hearty dagger]

I can

I can finally be a proper cop

With a shockmaul and a shotgun

[upper galleon]

It’s an above average dodge still until you dump far down

Most things you dodge in this game are timing based, not distance based anyways

[hearty dagger]

Considering we're getting new blessings (probably in the vein of the new weapons, aka more gimmick based rather than straight up numbers buffs)

I am hoping and praying

That force swords get some mercy killer style synergy with soulblaze

[upper galleon]

I need to double check the previous crafting blog, but they are aiming for 8-12 blessings per family, and more unique blessings specific for those families

[rich spindle]

Flechette scriers gaze ❤️

[hearty dagger]

Honestly i can imagine some stuff like:
Hitting enemies with soulblaze increases soulblaze damage/deals more damage (probably won't do a straight up mercy killer but soulblaze blessing)

Maybe on the purgatus staff, enemies that hit max soulblaze stacks explode

(tbf that should be on the staff itself as basekit, it sounds way too cool)

Fellas, what weapons do y'all think we'll see on Psyker?

I'm kinda hoping for Power Sword but honestly they probably won't make that an universal

[night moat]

Hadron better be kind to me.

Take that brick back, you bastard

[untold niche]

show final form

[night moat]

Gotta farm mats.

It'll take awhile. I'm playing between meetings while working remote from home lol

[untold niche]

[night moat]

Will post back here

[upper galleon]

for purge staff specifically, could reintroduce the unused blessing that applied brittleness stacks, would let it start punching into armor

[hearty dagger]

Honestly soulblaze should have some more oomf to it

Right now it's just burn but blue

[upper galleon]

soulblaze has fine oomf

the problem is that purge staff can be functionally replaced by PC+venting flames, and maybe even wildfire on top of that

[untold niche]

is there any way for a purga + ds4 build to be good?
since ds4 needs DD and purga can't headshot

assail?

but even with assail would it be subpar

[lyric burrow]

purge DS4 is like one of the strongest combos you can take

DS4 would be fine without DD

DD helps but its not needed

uncanny + stupid high base damage already puts in a lot of work

BB would be the common choice with that since assails role is already covered although assail wouldnt be bad

[rich spindle]

^p much this

[untold niche]

ione thing that i don't like about going assail is the pathjing

i should try that ubild one day

[untold niche]

actually wouldn't BB be very very slow

just to get 15 stacks

[lyric burrow]

15 stacks wym

[jovial juniper]

Only if you don't have the 3 stacks from spot kills

[lyric burrow]

Youd take ep

[untold niche]

ah

so ep BB > DD assail in this case?

or ep bb > ep assail > dd assail

[strong gulch]

DS4 is pretty strong without DD

EP BB + purge is great.

[lyric burrow]

Normally

If your taking dd id probably take assail base BB is like unusable because its so slow

If your fine with EP take BB

[supple dock]

psyker rarely has clear distinctions in power

[strong gulch]

BB with KR + EE + creeping flames + EP goes pretty hard with purg

[supple dock]

There's a few instances sure

but almost everything psyker has is a tool that excels at what it does

[untold niche]

if i go dd assail, do i path crit or cdr aura
if i go cdr aura need to take mind in motion

but does malefic mommentum affect purga damage much?

[untold niche]

i mean in the case of this build

[lyric burrow]

Likely crit

Crit benefits your weapons massively

[untold niche]

doesn't purga have high crit already. i understand it will help with ds4 though.

I like cdr because cdr and the peril toughness. but yeah, mind in motion is sucky compared to MM

reality anchor or precog? (for gaze)

[supple dock]

it's not even that purg has a massive crit rate, it fires stupidly fast at a decent crit rate

for the price of renewable ammo

[untold niche]

thats true

[untold niche]

^

do not forsaken me!

|| please reply||

[near wyvern]

Always precog unless you are going to do some staff shenanigans

Reality anchor gives you like 1-2 stacks more

[untold niche]

thats genuinely terrible.

[near wyvern]

Yes

Precog on the other hand gives you a lotta stacks for just a couple weakspot kills

And more bonuses

[untold niche]

pygex

do you quell while in gaze?

[near wyvern]

If I don't have anything to hit then yes

Unless I want it to wear off and reset for next fight

So basically only if I miss time the start

Unless I do the sweaty staff lord gaze in which case you quell a lot here and there until you can't hold the Emperor's might anymore and you need to surrender your body for the enormous load

[untold niche]

hmmmm, im thinking if i should forgo solidity. and take BM and the movement speed increase, but that would prob hurt my mixed horde clear since solidity would help when using purga

[near wyvern]

Yeah don't give up on faster quell if you use staves

The only time to really pair BM with Gaze is for the achievement or if you run void with transfer peril for gaze

[untold niche]

i tried running void + gaze once (without transfer peril) and it was fucking miserable

[near wyvern]

It is doable but you have to sweat a lot to be on par with just any regular void build

[untold niche]

i didn't even know when i should quell lol, that was a

[near wyvern]

So definitely not a recommended way of doing things, playable but ultra sweaty

[untold niche]

a build.

[untold niche]

so build ok?

[near wyvern]

What are your weapons? DS and Purga?

[untold niche]

yeah

[near wyvern]

I would go smite instead of Assail and use void

DD does nothing for Purga

[untold niche]

nah the build is for the weapons rather than the other way around
(yoshi was saying to take ep BB. hmmm)

[near wyvern]

If you want to build for the weapons you are missing a lot by not taking warp siphon keystone

For Purga

DS is fine even without DD

And Gaze finally works with warp siphons

You could use Purga to get faster gazes

EP BB also works yes

But if you want gaze gimme sec

[untold niche]

for the ult

i don't really mind anyh

but i just chose gaze because i saw gaze reducing ds BPs

does ep BB feel better, or warp

[near wyvern]

This is what I would recommend to start with, alternative talents marked with same colour circles

Feel free to mod from there ofc

[rich spindle]

Gaze purg is pretty hard to pull off

[near wyvern]

Yeah but with this you wouldn't be purging while you are gazing

[untold niche]

yeah thats fine, the gaze is for ds anyway, at least in my head

[untold niche]

why do i want true aim?

for assail?
Also. no need for 6 charge?

[near wyvern]

Yes but not mandatory, if you drop the 5% movement speed you could also go for mind in motion to use Assails at the beginning of your gaze

[near wyvern]

No, you only use charges to get faster gaze

[winter bloom]

this is the kind of thing that would be cool to see in guide format like the ogrynomicon

[near wyvern]

You won't have enough time to get 6 stacks

[untold niche]

i thought the charges was also to increase purga damage

[near wyvern]

Try googling The Psyker Atheneum

[winter bloom]

i did, but it doesnt have things like that

[near wyvern]

WDYM I have build guides

[untold niche]

he prob meant the

options

[near wyvern]

Gaze Purga is just not something I recommend

[winter bloom]

...let me re read then

[near wyvern]

Oh

I have listed mandatory talents there

Which means rest are optional and can be changed as you want

[untold niche]

mr pygex

[winter bloom]

ok yeah i see em now

[untold niche]

wait fuck me

warp doesn't increase damage

[near wyvern]

Exhibit A, tells you which weapons are mandatory and which talents are mandatory for a given build to function

[winter bloom]

its been a while

[untold niche]

wait it does

16% at 4 stacks

[near wyvern]

Yes

[untold niche]

yeah the 16% not relevant to purga?

[near wyvern]

No

I mean

[untold niche]

why?

[winter bloom]

i was trying to get back to psyker after like 6 months of not playing but got ogryn brain in the middle of reading the atheneum

[near wyvern]

Not if you play it like this

[untold niche]

can you elaborate a lil

[rich spindle]

You spam gaze for lingering damage increase

[near wyvern]

@winter bloom while you are at there take a look at shock maul and combat blade attack string tables and feel free to give feedback (can you understand it or not)

Already discussed with friend, gonna change the BG colour and things a bit to make less contrast with Steam guide BG and push symbol gonna be changed to something similar to ✋

[untold niche]

ah, but what if i only use gaze when i need to take down armour with ds4
or is that a bad idea.

[winter bloom]

did you see the updated ogrynomicon with attack patterns?

[rich spindle]

Youre gonna miss out the less you spam

[winter bloom]

i think thats a good format

[rich spindle]

Thats why gaze purg is so hard

[near wyvern]

@untold niche if you want to play warp siphons for damage you take panic bubble

For creeping flames and gaze you use warp charges to spam those ults and try to get your value from spamming the ults not the passive buff for holding on to charges

[near wyvern]

No, should probs check

[untold niche]

i get it now, the main power draw would come from gaze instead of the warp damage
because gaze has upfront 10% damage and 20% crit, along with the stacking 1%

Is this correct?

[rich spindle]

P much

Warp is the vehicle to spam gaze

[winter bloom]

on another note, its easy to differentiate the attacks with the icons, but the number for light/heavy is harder to see
id suggest adding a big number in the corner of the attack icons

[untold niche]

[near wyvern]

I checked this out, the ogrynomicon only tells you what flows into what. It doesn't tell you what to use and what is optimal. I prefer mine.

[near wyvern]

Thx will consider

[winter bloom]

it does tell you, but in text below the table, so if you prefer showing the combos with icons outright thats fine

[near wyvern]

Yeah I gotta at least try to keep the reading time under 5 hours

[winter bloom]

here i thought psykers would be able to read more than ogryns

[rich spindle]

But. This playstyle is really hard for me to play. If you use gaze at the wrong time you won't be able to spam purg staff until it finishes.

[near wyvern]

How the turns have tabled

[winter bloom]

lookin forward to it, will probably poke more around this channel for stuff

[untold niche]

why take the 5% movement speed at the bottom right
i understand it stacks with the gaze speed but uh, is the 5% that big to ignore a main node?

[near wyvern]

It's on your way to true aim, if you drop true aim for speed in gaze, drop the 5% speed and take mind in motion so you can quell while gazed if you miss time it and need to reposition

And also makes it easier to unload Assails at the start of gaze and also you can pop gaze at 30-50 instead of always at 0

Since you can just quell it down in the beginning

[untold niche]

oh yeah i think you said that but i didn't fully understand, so sorry.
And you said the true aim is for assail right?

[near wyvern]

Yes

Does nothing for Purga and nothing for melee weapons

It's up to preference

[untold niche]

can i swap mind in motion for the second assail node, or its better to take mind in motion for quell during gaze

[rich spindle]

Interesting. Can the purg not proc true aim..

[untold niche]

im very sorry pygex :v

[near wyvern]

You shouldn't need the second node since you are using Purga as well, you will be gated by your peril generation and have hard time popping gaze

[untold niche]

uh yeah thats true.

i was thinking that i might need it if there was a second batch of gunners, but i guess at that point i would pop gaze and slide over there

[untold niche]

could you explain this as well?
Like

1. Why do I want to do that
2. How does that work

[near wyvern]

Use Assails to stagger on your way in, sprint slide throw repeat

If you time it right you only loose around 10%-5% movement speed

[supple dock]

a defensive measure that's very much worth the price

[near wyvern]

And you are ofc immune to ranged while sliding

[near wyvern]

Without mind in motion you don't want to engage with gaze unless you are at like 0 peril to begin with. With mind in motion you can pop gaze at 30-50% peril and quell to 0 on your way to fight.

Spring slide quell is not fast enough for keeping gaze in control

And that's just purely because if you pop gaze at 50% and don't quell at all it's not gonna last for long

[untold niche]

So you mean to say with mind in motion I can assail to stagger from far range, which will bring up my peril, and then immediately quell and walk up to continue doing what I need to do?
And I can't do that without mind in motion because I will be a tortoise.

But wouldn't quell walk be quite slow as well.

Like quell walk with MIM

I assume you can't sprint

[near wyvern]

Yes with mind in motion you can pop gaze, keep moving and throw a couple shards, quell throw a couple shards, quell, swap to melee and you will start at 0 peril when you swap to your melee

[near wyvern]

Yes you can't sprint but at times you see some ranged that you want to deal with and then a melee horde is coming at you as well

Without mind in motion it's hard to use any ranged options while in gaze

[untold niche]

Dumb question why can't I pop gaze AFTER doing the assail stagger sprint and quell.

Gaze changes assail BP?

[near wyvern]

You can but only if you have time for it

[untold niche]

Isn't gaze activation pretty fast

[near wyvern]

Not really but gives you more crit chance which makes assails hit hard

[radiant frigate]

force greatsword when?

[near wyvern]

Activation yes but let's recap the situation here:

• sprint slide assail
• spring slide assail
• sprint slide assail

And now you have reached melee range. You pop gaze and you are at 30% peril. Without mind in motion you have to start bashing. With mind in motion you can move a bit more while first quelling to zero OR you can melee the dudes and then quell back to zero.

You could do the latter without mind in motion but it's a lot riskier without it since you can't reposition while doing it.

[near wyvern]

Confirmed 3050

[radiant frigate]

💀

[untold niche]

Why would you quell at melee range. Wouldn't you get hit either way. I mean you can dodge yeah but that seems like such a dumb thing to do.
Ignoring that, from what I understand of what you said, MIM doesn't change this.

So the thing MIM would change is quelling after melee. I imagine that the only instance MIM would help here, is when you need to walk out of ranged fire while quelling. Is that correct?
Why not just dodge slide then?

Pygex please don't secretly hate me

[near wyvern]

That's why you have the +20% movement speed. Footwork is a thing. Don't forget the enemy shooters as well. The only purpose to ever pick MiM is to guell while in Gaze to extend it during repositioning or to reset it to zero at the beginning of it.

Remember, more stacks means more damage and the peril gen ramps up over time but is momentarily slowed down when you kill stuff -> quelling is more valuable at the beginning of gaze, killing is more valuable at the end of gaze (and also enjoys bigger stacks on buffs).

Why not just dodge slide? Cause you combine them both for maximum speed.

[untold niche]

Hmmm. And just to make things crustal clear.

[untold niche]

Gaze is strictly for my ds4?

Or do I use it with afterburn from purga

Like do I puff puff then activate gaze

Or strictly

Ds4

[near wyvern]

The damage buff does increase your soulblazd damage but yes gaze is mainly for your DS4.

Without MiM you puff puff trash, quell, pop gaze, finish elites, let gaze run out.

With MiM you puff puff, pop gaze, level the trash, quell a bit, finish the elites, dash to next group and level that with DS4 until gaze end.

[untold niche]

Footwork? I thought just back dodge slide xd

[near wyvern]

You can but there is more to footwork than just dodging

[untold niche]

The enemies run straight at you

Either side dodge or dodge back

No

[near wyvern]

With enough movement speed it becomes possible to escape some melee attacks by simply moving

The melee tracking range is not unlimited

[untold niche]

Most zombos do that insane lunging attack

[near wyvern]

Trash yes

[untold niche]

If they do the slow one then yeah I see that happening

[near wyvern]

But to be honest I don't recommend gaze builds just because you cannot end it prematurely

[untold niche]

Fucker you, you make it sound so fun

[near wyvern]

If you could toggle it off for a small refund on CD it would be so much better

[untold niche]

Sounds like the fun I had when learning how to position with void

[near wyvern]

It is fun but very risky and you could achieve the same if not more by playing creeping flames

It's the closest you can get to a melee psyker, let's put it like that

The only problem is, you still don't have enough toughness gen and big enough toughness and HP pool to be a proper melee class

[untold niche]

|| that's how I leant void is actually a front line weapon, not a backline one but nobody believes me||

[near wyvern]

Void can be played both, I like to play it quite up front so I have easier time lining the trash with the ranged but if there are a lot of elites I tend to fall back a bit to give myself some time to hit them

[long wharf]

I'm not a fan of gaze at all

[untold niche]

If there are alot of elites I just stand my ground. Only when there is a mauler or crusher then I start walking back while charging and shooting. And only when the overhead comes then i back dodge slide

Have to be true man

That tactic never failed me

Void stagger is reliable

PC also reliable

Only time I would backlike is if its a very nice corridor and director says no progress for 30 seconds by dpawnjv in massive amounts of shit

But that's more of

No reason to frontline

And mh teammates want to frobtline so I don't move rather than me purposefully backlining

[near wyvern]

Let's just say there is a reason I have 8 example builds in Atheneum and only one of them uses Gaze

[untold niche]

Hmmm but the puff puff would be helpful in mixed horde no? It's like a flexible tool the way I see it. As if as zealot you have both crusher weapon and a chaxe

Or puff puff only really for killing zombos

[near wyvern]

Yes. The only thing problematic with purge and gaze is that both of them are horde clear

I suggested a build only because you wanted to try it out, but I would go creeping flames spam or bubble with purga

[untold niche]

Like the way I see it. If not confident can handle mixed horde with small puff and ds4 gaze, puff more first

Idk why but bobble purga seems really lame for me

[near wyvern]

You could go double shield as well for the kinetic resonance double buff for lulz

Bubble is just so good against beast of nurgle

And provides a safe spot from ranged

This is the Purga build I recommend

That's all about spamming soulblaze on two fronts

And the kinetic resonance across the map is also very nice

When you have gunners or a crusher pack inc

[supple dock]

I made a comment about how I was disappointed we didn't save our medkit for darktide 2

it turned into that

[winter bloom]

ill try to use that line myself

[supple dock]

it's a good one

[jade shoal]

That's a good line. lol

[supple dock]

like holy shit I was clearly joking rofl

the guy was like level 950

I kinda stopped caring about how other people played at that point

[winter bloom]

hows this sword (i have one of these already)

[rich jolt]

Its ok

If you could swap finesse and mobility itd be a groll

[winter bloom]

at least i got 69 finesse

[gilded viper]

They're saying all shotguns will be available for all classes

[rich jolt]

Slug rounds gonna go so hard on my dd build...

[hearty dagger]

According to a fella who ran the numbers

Slugs+DD one shot crushers on headshots

[rich jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-scared-afraid-dead-fan-gif-23609857

Chat we are so back

[subtle igloo]

Excuse me Fatshark gods

How do I build this

[rich jolt]

Oof

Mega bricked

Change perks ig

[sweet beacon]

just get warp nexus and replace weak spot dmg

[supple dock]

?

Change run'n gun for warp nexus and swap weak spot damage for flak

perfectly fine staff

[sweet beacon]

^

[supple dock]

if you could swap out crit bonus and quell speed that'd be ideal but whatever

[sweet beacon]

don't need a 4/4

[subtle igloo]

I don’t have warp nexus for this staff

[rich jolt]

Is cc some super secret meta stat ive been sleeping on? Pretty sure its bad

[subtle igloo]

It’s the first surge staff I’ve ever built

[sweet beacon]

do you recommend skipping on warp nexus instead??

[supple dock]

crit CHANCE is fine, crit DAMAGE is garbage

[sweet beacon]

crit chance is very mid for surge since it has a good amount of base crit and you'd pair it with nexus

[lethal lagoon]

Ranged weak spot damage -> Flak, Run n Gun -> Warp Nexus

[sweet beacon]

but not like wsd would do you any better

[solemn atlas]

How does the shock maul preform on sg how would you build it even?

[rich jolt]

Fair point

[supple dock]

I like crit chance on surge cause pretty much ALL of its damage comes from critting so it's not terrible to invest in the main vehicle in which your damage actually comes out

[subtle igloo]

😭

It’s actually the first I’ve built

[supple dock]

rofl

yeah that's an auric maelstrom staff

[rich jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/adachi-laugh-laughing-yakuza-ryu-ga-gotoku-gif-20928456

[supple dock]

in fact you realistically won't ever need another surge staff unless you do something specific

[sweet beacon]

not as good as 25% on a specific armor type, but it's perfectly serviceable yeah

[sweet beacon]

gambling time!

[subtle igloo]

No I got it from brunt’s and upgraded it

It’s my highest power staff

It’s higher power than my flame staff I spent hours rolling

[supple dock]

damage is dump staff on purg

burn is your main damage stat. that staff is a tragedy

[subtle igloo]

It works really well

[sweet beacon]

62% burn

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-destroy-it-break-it-gif-16208497

[subtle igloo]

I use perfect timing and all crit related perks with it

[sweet beacon]

i'd dump warp res or quell speed on purg though

damage helps a bit with packs of elites

[subtle igloo]

And just spam secondary

[upper galleon]

don't need crit chance perk with warp nexus, already gives you 100% uptime on empathetic evasion and perfect timing, and you want 76% burn for maximum stacks+ highest stack application rate

[brittle wigeon]

alittle curious, is my staff any good?

oh I can't upload an image

[clear bridge]

Worm to the street ✊ 😔

[brittle wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-reaction-gif-27157580

sobbing

imgur time......

https://imgur.com/a/5qYHci4

[quartz barn]

just talk a bit more and the bot will give you a red name

[brittle wigeon]

could you repost my link 😭

[quartz barn]

if you were in here before and left just ping a warden to give it to you

[brittle wigeon]

ty

[quartz barn]

here you go

[brittle wigeon]

i haven't changed anything on it and I just recently hit level 30 so I'm wondering if I should just get rid of it and reroll a new one or what

[clear bridge]

It's shockingly good for a pre-30 staff, pun intended

[sweet beacon]

just a good staff period

[quartz barn]

hmm while im not that big on surge id say the same changes as the one send ealier

[sweet beacon]

barrage to warp nexus and crit hit dmg to flak

[quartz barn]

crit dmg to flak and ter bar to nexus

[clear bridge]

Crit dmg to flak and Barrage to Nexus and you'll have a really good staff ngl

[quartz barn]

lol

[clear bridge]

....lmao there's an echo in here

[brittle wigeon]

got it, tysm

[clear bridge]

Is it worth doing maniac over flak?

[quartz barn]

no its because this is the psyker chat

[clear bridge]

Does Flak hit any breakpoints?

[quartz barn]

i think it does but idk about dmg values

• i dont think maniac will hit rager breakpoint

i usually just go with flak because you get more use out of it

[brittle wigeon]

it leaves ragers at like 2% under half HP

so 2 full charge surges kills it

[quartz barn]

outside of a few select weapons where maniac is actually just better like ds4

[brittle wigeon]

if I had manic I still think it would be 2 shots not 1

[quartz barn]

ye so just get flak

and if i get proven wrong by the number bois in here you can always swap flak to maniac

[brittle wigeon]

flak and change barrage to nexus.... now to get a t4 nexus blessing

if you could in theory change the 8% elite to anything else

what would you change it to

also maniac probably has a breakpoint on the tox flamer

😭

omfg it leaves trappers with literally 1hp

at heresy

[quartz barn]

that would mean it currently does 674 dmg

so with maniac% it would do 838 dmg

which still doesnt kill in damn because they have 900 hp

[brittle wigeon]

its over for me isn't it....

the staffs gotta go.....

also I kinda like the supression so I may keep it

[quartz barn]

nah its fine

[brittle wigeon]

warp nexus is crit chance right?

[quartz barn]

stuff like this is barely noticable

crit chance based on peril%

[lethal lagoon]

Some people consider elite damage on surge the meta

Second choice I mean of course

Flak is the clear first choice

[brittle wigeon]

i'll eat the flak chance forsure

[quartz barn]

ye ngl i couldnt think of a change for elite

outside of maniac i guess

[brittle wigeon]

cause I hate needing todo more then 1 on those STUPID ARMORLESS NAKED GUYS

THE ONES WITH THE SHINY HELMET, NO EYES, STOP EATING ALL MY DAMAGE

sorry

[lethal lagoon]

Flak + elites, unyielding, maniacs, 5% crit chance are the main options.

[brittle wigeon]

I believe I want to keep the supression, the 8% does help me 1shot some elites at heresy in the psykerium or whatever it's called

[lethal lagoon]

No.

Terrifying barrage is only terrifying in how useless it is.

[brittle wigeon]

but I'll keep it open incase in a week I go "mmm crit chance"

oh is it that bad???

[lethal lagoon]

Categorically one of if not the worst blessing.

Like just across the whole game

[brittle wigeon]

okay so literally my choices are

warp flurry (GODTIER) holyshit I'm so happy I got a t4 blessing of it

[lethal lagoon]

For Surge? There is no choices. You have Warp Flurry and Warp Nexus

[brittle wigeon]

run n gun (idk)
focused channeling (seems useless)
warp nexus (funny crit chance)

[brittle wigeon]

yeah but imagine 25% flak and maniac

or is the crit chance that good....

[lethal lagoon]

You are supposed to peril edge for warp rider anyways, so you will be sitting at an extra 15-20% crit most of the time.

Peril edging means you fire your rmbs at 60-80% and don't quell all the way down.

But if you are really new, don't worry about that too much

[brittle wigeon]

got it

tysm

[lethal lagoon]

I mean you have elites, it's not like your other perk will be useless.

Flak + elites is pretty good.

Here's a standard Surge build btw, spam RMB and then use Shriek at 85% for max warp stacks.

Shriek will kill all normal mobs, ranged mobs, bruisers, and snipers if used at 85%+ peril.

[brittle wigeon]

yippee I love smite!!!

[lethal lagoon]

This is mostly a "There's no reason to take BB" type deal.

It's meant for using Surge staff like 90-95% of the time and spamming shriek

But yeah it's there as an emergency button

[quartz barn]

hell ye another blitzless build

[lethal lagoon]

If you wanna main smite, this is what I recommend.
Get EP Stack, smite till at least 85%, use shriek, keep holding smite, most of the map dies.
Also pairs with Surge staff well.

[brittle wigeon]

i swear to god almost 1:1 with my current build

[lethal lagoon]

I hope the difference isn't you use bubble

[supple dock]

[brittle wigeon]

i use shriek

!!!!!!!!!

[lethal lagoon]

[supple dock]

[quartz barn]

nice atleast you dont use smite on its own

[haughty star]

Bubble is fine to use so long as you know how to use it lol

[quartz barn]

is there a wrong way to use bubble?

outside of build

the only thing i can think of is using it on top of yourself whenever you're standing on a grate so it places it outside of the map

[jovial juniper]

Or placing behind you

But who would do that

[gilded viper]

Smite is just being used for the bonus damage for dots no?

[upper sun]

smite does damage

[gilded viper]

technically, but I don't think anyone runs smite for damage

[analog agate]

EP smite does damage that I would consider actual dmg even outside of shriek. Regular smite? Yeah, that is used to keep em in place for shriek mostly

[supple dock]

#psyker-class message

This is what's possible with just EP smite + shriek, without including things like battle meditation, allied auras, etc etc

Oh, and perilous

of course

[haughty star]

Placement is key I suppose

[upper sun]

anyone try once human?

[winter bloom]

I want to try a smite EP build

[gilded viper]

I'm glad EP smite does something

[supple dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920768195185496064/1243381844242731038/the_power_of_red_stim.mp4?ex=669bc1d4&is=669a7054&hm=8494823cb5fe9c7fe379c71965332dc75f58659c2b1852657c82fe175c499337&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1244454778839371847/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.05.26_-_04.57.06.11.DVR.mp4?ex=669bb494&is=669a6314&hm=d6b4df01b1b02e81708a5ed7f0c95652925f9d66ecffbd7c08632544f8671b96&

more examples of smite being crazy for damage in the right situations

[winter bloom]

Squezing an entire horde sounds good

[gilded viper]

I never considered it myself, but it's neat it does that (With 85+ peril flames)

[haughty star]

It's one of the if not technically the strongest psyker lol

[supple dock]

in terms of raw damage? Not quiiiite there

in terms of facerolling the game?

yeah probably

[haughty star]

Eh depending on horde size I can't think of something that would output more raw dps

[supple dock]

blazing trauma

[haughty star]

It only does better tje bigger the hordes get. BT is a much smaller aoe

[supple dock]

bt is massive aoe, sec

[analog agate]

No blazing is massive

[haughty star]

Nothing is as massive as the funni yell or smite

[analog agate]

And that is just one pop of activation

[gilded viper]

Blazing's AOE is notably larger than the SFX makes it seem

[supple dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1259205894370234438/Smitingraidusjumpplus2.png?ex=669bf9e0&is=669aa860&hm=814b7bd16033ade37cf9db158dff5d4a56f4f339fb755d8dffb629859b313761&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1259205895301238926/SmiteNoJump1.png?ex=669bf9e0&is=669aa860&hm=71392e69787ffcbaae69362bcddb726589fa15fbaa878cbf96397b64dc8e05d4& for smite

[gilded viper]

Blazing trauma is wild

[supple dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1258976249527931024/BlazeTrauma801.png?ex=669bccc0&is=669a7b40&hm=0da59d1e99d3e6c8279eabbe60bf825af3abbaf8ae7af75fa3af88b201a4588b&

This is blazing trauma

[haughty star]

I've used it a few times and felt it was kinda meh

[analog agate]

I’m fully prepared for then to nerf blazing for update. Even though it isn’t used by 99% of psykers

[supple dock]

you crit twice and everything not an elite in that circle dies

[gilded viper]

I mean to each their own, may also depend on your traumas aoe stat

[haughty star]

Is this after things die and proc wildfire?

[supple dock]

no

this is the actual blazing proc

[upper sun]

i dont play trauma event because i fully expect it to get nuked out of the game

[analog agate]

I used trauma before I got a good blazing with flurry + channeling pre patch 13. It was still really good

[supple dock]

#psyker-class message

This shows the difference with blast radius, if you weren't sure after my answer

[haughty star]

My trauma is everything 80 and 59 quell

[gilded viper]

then idk skill issue

[analog agate]

Trauma will always be insanely good unless they change it to having a stagger limit/no infinite cleave

[supple dock]

yeah at that point it's understanding the weapon

[haughty star]

I was a little off

[analog agate]

What beaut

[supple dock]

oh. you don't have warp nexus on it

[gilded viper]

I wish that was mine

[supple dock]

You should get warp nexus on it, you'll feel a lot stronger

[haughty star]

That was when I rolled it lol

[supple dock]

got it

[analog agate]

You quell canceling baz?

[haughty star]

Came out of brunts like that

No

[analog agate]

It makes a difference for sure

[amber idol]

question about building my voidstrike: I got surge 4 and wapr nexus 3, with maniac 3 and stam. so stam for carapace and maniac full or get warp nexus 4? or instead of maniac crit chance?

[stiff falcon]

Voic

Trauma

Both needs to be nerfed

[gilded viper]

I imagine we will see some nerfs considering this update will make it a lot easier to craft ideal stats

[analog agate]

It was so long ago I can’t remember what trauma was like before its bufff

[gilded viper]

Didn't they just buff surge(the blessing), I'm not sure they're interesting in nerfing Void

[analog agate]

Void is fine imo

Slow ass charge. Pretty slow ball. Needs a good aim

[haughty star]

False stats will still be rngesus

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/itemization-rework-q-a-part-1-dev-blog/97316

[gilded viper]

Literally all it says is that 380 does not mean 80% on all stats

It literally says you can max out all weapons now

[analog agate]

Meh, there will always be some rng which is absolutely fine. If the update just makes it so we have to get a good stat distribution (like we do with Brunt now)… it will be very easy to get god rolls

[haughty star]

Yes but the stats will still be rngesus

[gilded viper]

Like it in theory might be better to get lower bases as it gives you more stats to add in

[analog agate]

I don’t think that is bad though

[gilded viper]

as all weapons can be made into 380s

[haughty star]

Like this poor shotty with damage as a dump stat

[gilded viper]

just a larger resource sink

[haughty star]

380 don't mean shit it's all about distribution

[analog agate]

Yeah, like now. But it will be more forgiving than it is now

[haughty star]

Word

[analog agate]

Cause you can get a 320 with a potential god roll

[haughty star]

My best revolver has 350 cuz the mobility is 30

[upper sun]

man i legit dont care just give me free blessings and perks

i playde this game long enough to have multiple bricked god rolls of each and every weapon

name a weapon on any class i have a brick of it

[spice veldt]

also means that currently existing low rating weapons in our inventories might turn out to be good

[haughty star]

I only got like 500 and I've got a decent version of most of the things I've got

[upper sun]

legit also meaningless

[haughty star]

Yee like my revolver will have 60 mobility

If you have weapons with a true dump stat the dump stat will just be brought up

[upper sun]

🤓 gee i wonder what my 59 mobility 379 revolver would look like after the update

[haughty star]

60 lol

[upper sun]

they didnt have to delay this update 7 months just remove the locks and thats enough for me

WOAH GUYS I WONDER WHERE THAT 6 POINTS IS GONNA GO

zamn i cant wait for those extra 5 points!!!

79.5 to 80 game changing

[late sapphire]

all into mobility of course, because that's what the max roll will end up being

[upper sun]

worth all the dockets i'm gonna pay

[haughty star]

Don't matter cuz that Thang is bricked

[upper sun]

1 million per point easy deal

[late sapphire]

Ultimately i guess it will make getting god rolls maybe 10x easier

What, did you really think they'd let you just dump resources to get a perfect weapon? Hahaha

[analog agate]

Incoming: There is nothing to grind for. This game is boring

[late sapphire]

IMO god rolls & so on are just a secondary or tertiary matter

[upper sun]

the only thing i upgraded and used was a chaxe

[late sapphire]

I like going into the game and killing a bunch of shit i don't care if my weapon does 5% less damage

[upper sun]

in like 400 hours

aside from a shield i got lucky with

[haughty star]

I've been struggling with ogie shield

Got easily 5m ordo dockets into that one

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[late sapphire]

I think i've only ever earnt 10mil in total...

[haughty star]

Oh just play auric man you'll make tons lol

[late sapphire]

Haven't played for a bit so i'm not sure how much each auric gives, might be closer to 20m

~500 missions in total, ~250 of that aurics

[supple dock]

auric on average gives 45k ordo dockets per successful mission

[late sapphire]

I have no idea how much you guys must be playing to dump xyz million into one weapon

[late sapphire]

Then again i've been spending all of my money on buying weapons with new blessings

[supple dock]

You've earned about this much on the aurics alone

[late sapphire]

Two shields worth

[supple dock]

you can get an auric maelstrom level weapon on average under 5m

[late sapphire]

All in all i think i'm in the sweet spot where the crafting update will actually be useful

[supple dock]

(and tbh some weapons you can just take grey into AM)

plasma rifle

as an example

[late sapphire]

I've been doing fine in auric mael with subpar weapons

It's not enjoyable though (depending on teammates), outside of melee only

[upper sun]

WE DID IT REDDIT

[amber idol]

hm?

[amber idol]

grats

[formal hill]

I have 15 mil rn, I could spend that pretty quick

[gilded viper]

I have spent disgusting amounts of dockets and plasteel to farm blessings and good bases

Really sucks

[formal hill]

To be fair I have a disgusting amount of plasteel iirc

[gilded viper]

I just end up using a lot of it

[formal hill]

350k I think

I don't really make any weapons

Nothing feels good to me other than a few

[lethal lagoon]

Don't do it. Your brain will rot until there's nothing left.

[winter bloom]

Wtf

[supple dock]

JERMA?

[supple dock]

This is like the "series of unfortunate events" series but fortunate

go play the lottery

that entire clip is bullshit\

[supple dock]

Come on everyone, laugh with me at the poor.

https://tenor.com/bSdzM.gif

Also I have created the ultimate power move

[upper sun]

is it altf4

[supple dock]

Group that's annoying the shit out of you. You're in a clutch situation. You handle the clutch to the next spawnpoint. You fight, clear everything, you're safe. Leave.

alt f4

[broken carbon]

we found the boston bomber!

[upper sun]

oh yeah i legit thought about doing that once

[broken carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-wholesome-reddit-account-big-al-yankovic-gif-16330119

[late sapphire]

I like kicking the annoying guy just before round end

[upper sun]

The emperor himself held the mouse that game

my only clutch as zealot

[broken carbon]

i wanted to do that the other day

[upper sun]

out of sheer spite

[supple dock]

I've done that twice

[broken carbon]

i was playing with cica

but he wouldn’t let me

he sounded like deku

[lethal lagoon]

I think you are misunderstanding

I have this one clip because I don't really record

Not because it's rare

I remember specfically deciding to do a meme melee psyker build right after playing EP smite.

I ran straight on into an Og gunner and died within the first 5 minutes of the game

I legitmately forgot that the game had threats in it.

You know what I watched it again and I can't decide if that series of events involving the poxburster and the dog is lucky or unlucky.

[spice veldt]

pikachu face when running into a reaper is not the best idea at times

how could this have happened
how could i have foreseen this
by what will was i placed upon this earth

[lethal lagoon]

There are no bad ideas when playing Ep Smite

Except using bubble

And well playing EP smite in the first place

[supple dock]

the entire clip is a spectacle

you will never convince me otherwise

[lethal lagoon]

Are you forcing me to play EP smite again for more clips

How else do I convince you that's just normal gameplay

[broken carbon]

especially when u don’t have something to actually stagger them out of shooting

[spice veldt]

i tried to fight a reaper pack as a vet two games in a row with melee alone

i did not learn my lesson the first time around

[lethal lagoon]

Time for a 3rd try

[formal acorn]

any reason i should pick this up?

[spice veldt]

games with me in them would be more difficult if the game spawned more reaper packs for me to be overly confident fighting into

[rich spindle]

I have never used the infantry lasguns

[formal acorn]

ok

[rich spindle]

Arent they Bad

[formal acorn]

i havent played psyker in a long time i want a new build. idk whats good. i would love a support build i think

[jovial juniper]

More like Power crept

[broken carbon]

real

dueling sword jab my beloved

[jovial juniper]

Mk IV and Ia can do some work

[rich spindle]

I think bubble shield is the closest thing to "support" you can do as psyker

[spice veldt]

duelling sword my beloved
On vet, the two instances, I spent my VoC staggering a single reaper and got gutted by the other reapers and ranged enemies that were around (pikachu face when enemies all shoot at the one player that is in perfect sightline and close range of them)

[rich spindle]

I always forget when I have a weapon that doesnt stagger reapers

And they keep firing at me

[spice veldt]

how DARE they

[supple dock]

that is NOT normal gameplay

there's no fucking way

you are CONSTANTLY that fortunate

go play the lottery

[broken carbon]

how do u feel about the ds being on other classes

i feel like it’d be very

meh

[lethal lagoon]

I get grabbed by a quiet mutant and then throw into a dog, I dunno about "lucky" just cause things worked out...

[broken carbon]

cuz no infinite ammo

and it’s terrible horse clear

[supple dock]

they worked out

THATS LUCKY

D:

[broken carbon]

horse clear

lol

[lethal lagoon]

D:

No.

I play like a crack addict, that's a normal moment.

Look at the video title.

[lyric burrow]

Suppressing them

[spice veldt]

i'd say it'd be pretty damn good

[rich spindle]

Can you imagine duelling sword on zealot....

[lethal lagoon]

I only clipped it cause we were having a dicussion about KD on ep smite

[spice veldt]

other classes have ranged weapons that can fit the role of hordeclear

[broken carbon]

crusher one shot when

[spice veldt]

even braced auto is fine

[broken carbon]

pleaseeeeee let the thunder hammer one shot crushers

PLEAAEEEEEE

[spice veldt]

unironically i'm pretty sure duellist + other buffs on zealot is enough for a crusher oneshot on crit

[broken carbon]

why is a stupid metal toothpick better against crushers than a fucking anti tank hammer

[rich spindle]

No... stop making a mockery of my super armor enemy

Everything melts crushers

[broken carbon]

you need almost max stacks of martyrdom, duelist, and +carapace

[broken carbon]

except the one thing that should melt crushers

[broken carbon]

also a high pen stat

i think like 76

[spice veldt]

with psyker, +carapace, scrier's, DD, and/or warp rider (i forget what exactly) is enough for a crusher oneshot on crit weakspot so that's the numbers i'm using as a baseline

[broken carbon]

oh

wait u meant on psyker

i was talking about thammer lol

[spice veldt]

nah i just meant i'm thinking of those buffs when doinng my rough in-the-head calculations on zealot

oh thammer

i was remarking on duelling sword on zealot

[broken carbon]

fair

[broken carbon]

is it weird that i think scriers gaze is overkill with DD on a ds

cuz like

DS already melts everything with high stacks

just poor horde clear

idk

maybe i’m weird

[spice veldt]

scrier's hitting crusher oneshot and giving crit chance is a pretty good deeal to me esp since i don't make particularly good use of shield

though i certainly could use shield better

and scrier's being nice for boss damage with duellies when you have DD stacks up to make use of crit weakspots (or just crits when hitting the weakspot is not feasible)

[broken carbon]

im not nearly as good as u so

i need my shield

[spice veldt]

i run assail all the time which reduces the need for shield

[broken carbon]

oh

yeah fair

[spice veldt]

and i take all the toughness regen talents on my usual build which allows me to play even more stupidly with ranged enemies

so it's just when i get absolutely annihilated faster than my reaction time that ranged enemies are problematic or the consequences of bad-positionitis comes to bite me in the ass by having put myself into an irreversible situation

[broken carbon]

my only complaint with psyker

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/4ozue2

[broken carbon]

is even suboptimal positioning

will get you obliterated sometimes

[broken carbon]

yeah like that

[rich spindle]

Lol

Why do gunners hit every single bullet sometimes

[spice veldt]

at least psyker doesn't have too much of a reason to be up close or in too-threatening of positions

my perspective is skewed cuz i always run degenerate trauma + assail so maybe i shouldn't be talking though

[little sapphire]

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[broken carbon]

my muscle memory is too much from zealot, so i instinctively slide towards gunners

[spice veldt]

the 500 iq (me) will say to run blazing spirit + rending shockwave

[broken carbon]

and then get surprised when i get obliterated

[spice veldt]

(pikachu face)

i do that but i have assail to stagger enemies or for position/distance-agnostic toughness regen

[broken carbon]

u and pikachu face

[spice veldt]

i love my pikachu