psyker-class

[jovial juniper]

Anyways

[analog agate]

The long charge rate feels so bad and the slow movement rate of the ball to actually hit something moving is a problem

Taking away the aiming aspect is definitely a plus for surge though. You can kill faster even over someone who is a shroud* with aiming on void

I value the ability to quickly dispatch specials/gunners over a possibility of stunning a boss for a sec or one shotting a crusher. Disablers are more dangerous

And that is where surge shines

[unreal yew]

So surge staff is more versatile?

[analog agate]

No. I would say void is. I think for what I consider important surge is better

[jovial juniper]

Not really, lacks cleave

[wind spruce]

Void is broken levels of good

[jovial juniper]

I'd say trauma is more versatile

[wind spruce]

It's really not close

[jovial juniper]

Although a good trauma is hard to come by

[long wharf]

Just craft one

[jovial juniper]

Good stagger, good damage, access to long range bolts

[long wharf]

If you've built up your relationship with Hadron, you're gucci

[analog agate]

I was leaving trauma out of it haha. Trauma is just a better staff than both unless you REALLY value boss dmg

[jovial juniper]

What are you on about mate

You should be stanning surge mate

[wind spruce]

Surge is the fifth best staff

[unreal yew]

If I am using smite for CC I would like a staff that is single target damage

Specialty for specials

[analog agate]

Surge. And by using smite you hopefully mean using it with venting shriek

[wind spruce]

Surge is a good (possibly best) candidate for a smite build

[analog agate]

I was putting on my surge stan hat. I think I probably have the most experience on trauma staff here? Arco overall but he doesn’t really use it. War splits his time with zealot

[wind spruce]

I reckon I have 400 odd true levels with trauma, minimum

[analog agate]

I have about 800-900 hours on trauma staff

[wind spruce]

Bout the same with void

And the best staff (columnus)

[analog agate]

Praise the steel staff

[obtuse dragon]

what is the dump stat for the nomanus mk vi surge force staff?

[plucky flax]

No dump stat really. It likes all stats high.

[obtuse dragon]

i figured quell speed might be close to a dump stat as you can always swap to a force sword for quelling. at the moment melk has this:

[plucky flax]

Charge rate can be lower at like 70 ish.

[lethal lagoon]

That's bricked anyways

[plucky flax]

No you quell way faster on staff.

[lethal lagoon]

Need 2/4, Flurry Nexus, Flak, Unyielding, Elites, Maniacs, 5% crit chance.

Carpace kinda okay if you are desperate or running an EP smite build

[wind spruce]

Force swords have the same quell rate as blitzes last time I checked

[upper sun]

i wouldnt touch a surge staff with dam less than 77%

[brazen rampart]

Why 77% specifically? Genuine question, I'm not well versed in staves.

[upper sun]

I rolled one with 76 dam and it happened to have open perks

so i decided to try agent's recommendation for flak maniac on surge

it did not reach the trapper no crit one tap bp

[brazen rampart]

Icky...

Noted for future reference, though.

[upper sun]

i was very mad

spent so much on surges 😭

[upper sun]

this is begging to be a build

[marble crater]

79% cloud radius is literally unplayable, smh

[plucky flax]

Too high warp resist on purga.

[upper sun]

ur too high

[raw token]

coming back after a while, general concensus on best staff rn?

[analog agate]

Trauma

[upper sun]

theyre all good

[analog agate]

I will elaborate. Trauma because it has infinite cleave as well as the stagger ability so you can, in theory, never get hit in melee

[raw token]

yeah i know you can use them all for sure

just seeing if anything changed since last i played

seems not

[analog agate]

Psyker meta hasn’t changed from patch 13 (October)

In maelstrom/auric play at least

[raw token]

i heard news of crafting changes? they happened or coming soon?

[analog agate]

Fall is the soonest

“After summer”

[raw token]

could be hype

[upper sun]

they said after summer but they meant when hell freezes over 😭

[analog agate]

Honestly, it could lead to this game feeling like a new game. We will see

[upper sun]

if they fix the crafting ill finally put a positive review

[raw token]

fix is a strong word to be using around fatshark

[jovial juniper]

Nah, they fix stuff (and break even more on the same patch)

Trust the process

[obtuse dragon]

any way to salvage this? it had damage against infested on it i swapped already.

[upper sun]

its a good rending trauma

just swap sustained for rending blessing

[obtuse dragon]

cool

[hollow current]

ill put a negative one

[upper sun]

"3k hours played its bad"

@marble crater bruh

game pass is getting a price hike

[pine brook]

Smite psyker)))

[crude cape]

do assail shards still benefit from melee blessings like uncanny strike when stacked and weaving assail with melee?

[spice veldt]

nay

[crude cape]

oh no

sadge guess that was op

been a while since they probs nerf that sorry

[strong gulch]

Yeah it was awhile ago.

It wasn't assail specific tho. It was something about melee blessings no longer effecting ranged damage.

[spice veldt]

the change was that projectiles don't have their buffs updated in real-time

whatever buffs they were launched with, that's what they keep for the rest of their lifetime

[strong gulch]

YES THAT.

Thank you. I was driving myself up the wall just now.

[marble crater]

Yeah, was only a matter of time really

[untold niche]

how much is it now?
I feel like the curation is really good, but not worth the price for the amount of multiplayer games on it

[rich jolt]

20$

[vernal temple]

this was fun

[untold niche]

nah

too expensive man

[rich jolt]

Still a decent deal

Any more price hikes though and im out

[vernal temple]

interestingly enough, the batteries for the final event on that map and the medicae batteries look identical, but the medicae battery obviously doesn't work on that machine

[marble crater]

There is also a cheaper version without day one releases now, not sure if that means you get the games later or not at all, might be an option if you have a backlog already

[plucky flax]

High as a kite.

[haughty thorn]

👀

Oh it's dead here

[jovial juniper]

Become a necromancer

Oooh you want to be one so bad

[acoustic osprey]

does 3 stam exist for psykers?

[hexed geyser]

yes

76 rating or more like other classes

[acoustic osprey]

ahhh i see now ty

[hexed geyser]

75's are a scam, they say +3 but they are +2 in game

[hot needle]

im pretty new to this game, any tips for using psyker on malice difficulty, i always die and fail the mission because i get over run, i use assail

[stiff falcon]

Dodge

A lot

[lavish glade]

Dont be afraid to actually use your melee constantly be dodging and sliding

[stiff falcon]

https://youtube.com/@telopots?si=8XJb2XSksBy60AJP

Monkey see monkey do

[hot needle]

and what about making a decent build? im only level 12 or something i cant remember but i have a sword with parry and a las pistol

[lavish glade]

Dont be using your building materials till you hit lvl 30

[hot needle]

by build i mean like set of weapons

[lavish glade]

Also trauma staff is going to be your best bet at keeping alot of stuff of yourself

[stiff falcon]

Don’t go near hadron

[lavish glade]

I like trauma or voidstrike staff with either deimos force sword or mk iv i think it is dueling sword

[strong gulch]

Trauma staff at low level and rolls is pretty bad. You an try it out, know that its scaling is so much better at higher rolls.

[spice veldt]

i recommend splitting your dodge and jump binds onto different keys

since this allows you to spam your dodge key without worrying about being punished into a jump

[strong gulch]

This is a general recommended leveling build for talents made by Pygex.

[hot needle]

deimos blaze force sword?

[lavish glade]

Yes

[strong gulch]

There is a pretty good guide up in the pins called The Psyker Atheneum.

[hot needle]

theres one i can get rn its pretty good

[lavish glade]

The illisi might be considered more beginner friendly tho

[hot needle]

i do not have that unlocked

[strong gulch]

Also, while leveling don't get to focused on gear. It's all gonna suck (more or less) until you can get better rolls. That happens at 30.

[lavish glade]

Knives are also great as always but littlr tricky to use w pysker and you need to have good movement to make use of them

[hot needle]

im trust level 8 lol, is it ok to be using a heavy laspistol? its my highest quality ranged weapon and better than anything i see in store

[strong gulch]

Feel free to try weapons out as you unlock them.

Use what you get.

It's famine while leveling

[lavish glade]

If your on pc id recommend the auto clicker mod to use w las pistol unless you want carpal tunnel

[hot needle]

yeah i noticed it sucks to use but i mainly use it to get headshots

[strong gulch]

If you want to balance saving materials and getting better gear, buy new stuff every few levels.

[hot needle]

i should also play with friends and not public lol, sometimes my teammates suck and just dont help or revive us

[strong gulch]

The nature of pubs. 😩

[potent echo]

Nature of how I treat pubs

If you die in the open vs 20000 shooters I'm sorry go open YouTube on the other monitor

[strong gulch]

Oh and here is some basic play info. There are videos of game basics. Some stuff might be out of date, but the core of the info is good.
#psyker-class message

Assail is also the go to leveling tool. You don't have to worry about low rolls, RNG, or spending mats on it.

[hot needle]

i think ive just met the worst team, we got attacked by beast of nurgle and everyone left me to fight it solo so i died

they literally just ran and let it back me into a corner

[hardy raft]

con sole key is wack

also recommend a build for rashad

[lavish glade]

I tried using the rashad but it just felt rlly slow to me for some reason much prefer the antax

[upper galleon]

On psyker you got no attack speed bonuses to really make rashad shine in comparison

[hardy raft]

no gaze?

[stiff falcon]

Ds4 exists

[hardy raft]

true

i have a decent one

[stiff falcon]

I would go so hard with a ds4 on zealot

[upper galleon]

Gaze doesn’t give any attack speed

[jovial juniper]

Unfortunately

[stone minnow]

I have the weirdest penance being a major problem . It’s the one to knock off 7 enemies to their death

[upper galleon]

Rashad is a faster base than antax but without attack speed boosts it isn’t very noticeable

That and finesse giving weakspot damage as well

Idk i prefer rashad for the push attack stagger

[haughty star]

RIP

[hardy raft]

it doesnt?

fuck

placebo

[potent echo]

Psyker attack speed one day

[spice veldt]

psyker gon hit the gym once again

[wind spruce]

I get this feeling everytime I use gaze in melee

Particularly with DS lights

[potent echo]

Zoomy lines go fast

[wind spruce]

Eggzachary

[potent echo]

Copium

[ocean cipher]

finally, good psyker drip

also i stfg ive burned like 8 trauma staffs without a single blazing spirit

[quartz barn]

Why would you even need attack speed on psyk

[ocean cipher]

can I get a fun lightning psyker build? realizing i dont like trauma lol

[quartz barn]

The whole point is that all our weapons onetap

Pretty basic, smite + shout + ep

[ocean cipher]

smite+shout?

[quartz barn]

Shout extends smite

[ocean cipher]

also imma be honest im awful at doing builds

[quartz barn]

Whole loop is that you get ep stack from a special or elite kill, then smite mixed horde and get another special or elite kill with your empowered smite

[ocean cipher]

I wanna run with surge right

[quartz barn]

Use flame shout to extend your smite cast

I run surge with it ye, but honestly i dont really use it that much

[ocean cipher]

do i run either of the smite augments

[quartz barn]

Both afaik

Def the extra bounce one, dont remember what the other one does tbh lmao

[ocean cipher]

like this?

and where can I sacrifice a point to get kinetic deflection

[quartz barn]

I dont use that because smite already stuns whatevers around you

Aside from that this is pretty much it yes

[wind spruce]

Very easy question, battle meditation

Oh it's ep smite though, the one exception outside of scriers to battle med being a garbage talent

Your only option is one of the smite notes or one of the toughness generating nodes

Or you drop quietude to free up 2-3 points.

Which would probably be my preference.

[viscid matrix]

i wold sacrfice the 2 middle points at the top, and 1 or 2 of the smite points(depends if you use it a lot or not)

[supple dock]

@sick nimbus#psyker-class message

[ocean cipher]

fucken what????

what is that aoe

[lethal lagoon]

It's the ice cream cone of the warp.

It only comes in vanilla I'm afraid.

[dark swift]

What do I change?

[potent echo]

That's a really nice self-portrait

[lethal lagoon]

Indeed, I'm 5 meters tall and indeed shaped like an SCP

[lethal lagoon]

Rampage -> Riposte/Shred.

Perks I'd do specialists to manic.

[strong gulch]

I finally figured out what your stick figure kept reminding me of. It's Teen Girl Squad from Homestar Runner.

Some folks like rampage for better horde clear and having more power (unless it's been patched to be damage) for tougher enemies.

I still recommend shred or riposte over tho. DS doesn't have a ton of cleave (even after the buff); but more importantly, if you don't have chaff to keep rampage up, that blessing is doing nothing.

Choosing between riposte and shred is more of personal preference and play style.

[upper sun]

depends on the region mine wasnt there

im pretty sure i cant post pdfs here but if you google the title you should be able to see it

[vernal temple]

Wow, if you convert Argentina's prices to USD, their new 12 months game pass core is cheaper than any of the current prices for other contries

44,999 ARS is $48.95

[upper sun]

yeah argentina was always the Caribbeans of video games

[upper sun]

wasnt that good in the first place

[marble crater]

Different wages, different cost of living, etc

[potent echo]

I doubt this price hike will affect any active subscribers, but will remind those people who are subscribed and haven't used it in months

[midnight jolt]

Best time to get the game on Steam, 60% discount for the imperial edition, that is to say: $24/€24 😂

[upper sun]

ye thats how i got the game

[midnight jolt]

oh no, that train ended yesterday, back to €60

[upper sun]

oh no people have to wait 2 weeks before its on sale again

[midnight jolt]

I mean, I wouldn't pay full price, this game suffers from content update compared to Vermintide franchises,
the only reason I don't play Vermintide 2 is because of its P2P model, V2 feels like you need friends to play with

[mild junco]

Anyone know why the psyker shield is now a blinding soap bubble ?

[hardy raft]

your GPU died

condolences

[mild junco]

I'm pretty sure that's not the issue

[midnight jolt]

I used it yesterday all the time, doesnt look like that

[near wyvern]

Render bug

[potent echo]

Is that an AMD GPU

[lethal lagoon]

I can show you where you can download a new GPU, it's where I got an extra 32gb of ram.

[potent echo]

Unironically I spent 6 bucks on a downloadable GPU and it doubled my frame rate

[idle aurora]

anyone runs warp rupture? Like, is there even a point over creeping flames? I guess it's insta damage instead of burn tick

[potent echo]

Nope

Never

Unless you're unhinged

[strong gulch]

Yeah maybe that last one

[potent echo]

And you want to jump through blessing/perk loops to get the breakpoints for poxwalkers but only up to 5m or less

[idle aurora]

Wait, it also has a damage fall off?

[potent echo]

Yuuup

[idle aurora]

Lmao, ye, it's trash then. If it was 150-250 damage in that entire 30m shriek range, then it would probably be good

[potent echo]

Imagine fatshark gave creeping flames dropoff over range

It's over for psykers

[mild junco]

Yes

[mild junco]

It's so joever

All psykers must return to shield

[potent echo]

Shield EP BB rise up

Actually fun build

[thin finch]

No stick with Scream BB warp Stack, embrace tradition

[near wyvern]

Wait till you hear it has damage drop off based on distance, and quite a severe one

[midnight jolt]

They have to explain to me what inertia has to do with fire 😂

[potent echo]

It's soulfire

You activate the dog in them

[hardy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/blah-blah-blah-balh-blah-balh-bla-bla-shut-up-bro-gif-25742861

[midnight jolt]

even harder to explain, for a flamethrower with actual fire, constant burn rate maybe, but a fire that sitcks into your soul?

[potent echo]

Maybe if they wore shoes they won't need to worry about soleblaze

[midnight jolt]

shoesblaze? 😂

[hardy raft]

i assume it just burns with using the enemy's souls as fuel essentially

[mild junco]

EP BB my beloved

[midnight jolt]

is magic, now all shut up

[hardy raft]

its actually a nanotech that looks like a flame

[upper sun]

i tried to play zealot after a while of just ogryn and psyker

got my ass BEAT

i think my brain can only support two classes at a time 😭

[halcyon gust]

I can support 3 classes in my brain. Vet, Psyker, and Ogryn

[plucky flax]

Not playing a different class every game.

[upper sun]

vet was never an option

like people shit talk smykers but shield ogryn is unironically more brain rot than smite

[halcyon gust]

I like using the shield as Ogryn. Makes puny Heretics try to melee me instead of shooting me

[upper sun]

H1..H1..H1..OOPSE SHIT H2..h1

thats your shield gameplay

[halcyon gust]

Mix in some Shield pushes to draw most enemy attention towards me or drag a few shooters into the pile, A rock at a incoming charger or 3, and eating rations mid mission

[upper sun]

shield push? rock? kickback?

no H1 only

[halcyon gust]

Kickback as my range option because it just a nice shotgun to use

[upper sun]

yeah i have it too with shield i just forget to use it

[halcyon gust]

Just make sure you remember to reload it when you get a chance

[upper sun]

just heavy1maxxing all game

[halcyon gust]

Less you reload it in front of a trapper you really want to turn into chunky salsa or wall art

[upper sun]

ah dude fucking the partial reload doesnt work well

there was one instance were i kept trying to reload for a solid minute to shoot one sniper and i couldnt because of a mutie a trapper and a pox burster and other shit

i was fuming

[halcyon gust]

At that point. Rock meet sniper

[potent echo]

Yea kickback has a horrendous reload stage

Just like achyls

[upper sun]

i couldnt see the sniper

[potent echo]

Someone should report it

[upper sun]

so i wanted the aoe

[halcyon gust]

Sometimes I also mix in the grenade gauntlet with my shield Ogryn

[potent echo]

GG has great reload cancels

That should be the template

[stable hare]

I feel like using a purg on a lights out mission gives me headache

[marble crater]

Exactly, use Blaze Trauma instead

[upper sun]

yeah blow out your ears instead of blinding yourself

[brittle cargo]

Fatshark pls buff

[stable hare]

Feels worse to me, dunno why

[marble crater]

Because it's a bad staff, please buff

[stable hare]

feels like it doesnt do much damage, its good for CC

[upper sun]

so tru so tru

its a support staff and support is bad in tide games

[stable hare]

but purg does CC kinda decently and is better for soulblaze in my opinion

[upper sun]

buff trauma pls

[whole shoal]

Just give Trauma a blessing that leaves fire puddles like the coruscation staff

[stable hare]

btw ive recently started playing psyker seriously and i have all 4 staffs with good rolls and builds and its pretty much purg>void>surge>trauma for me

all in auric damnation+maelstrom

havent touched gunpsyker because my main is vet

[marble crater]

Whenever I play Blaze Trauma and there is also a psyker with Purgatus on the team I feel bad for them

[stable hare]

also is it just me, or is smite really bad?

i never find myself using it for the builds i'm running

[upper sun]

smite is always bad

[stable hare]

it costs so much peril for what i can do 100 times better with my staff

i just take smite on my voidstrike build because i have a sniper staff so i dont really need brainburst

but i might switch to BB even with that

[jovial juniper]

Tfw when it does 30ish damage outside of the circle

[stable hare]

even inside the circle close to the center, ive been fully charging 2-3 times and some elites dont even die

[brittle cargo]

Show us your trauma staff

[stable hare]

has a 63% damage roll, but give me a sec

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

it has okish damage scalling 60 should still be usable

[wind spruce]

Yeah, so? Three charges won't kill an ogryn elite or a mauler but it's not supposed to. That's what soulblaze is for.

[jovial juniper]

Buff trauma

[wind spruce]

Make sure you're running shriek and blazing spirit

[stable hare]

its just my very early thought on staffs

[wind spruce]

And stack that shit up

[stable hare]

i am

[hardy raft]

i run rending

[wind spruce]

It can seem weak at lower difficulties

But it scales ridiculously with density

[wind spruce]

Rending is underrated

[stable hare]

but if i'm running soulblaze build, why use trauma instead of purgatus? Only if i dont like purg and wanna play trauma

[wind spruce]

The BP staning is crazy

[rich jolt]

Who has ever said that rending isnt the shit?

[wind spruce]

Because "soul blaze builds" don't exist

[rich jolt]

I thought it was widely considered to be amazing

[wind spruce]

We have staff builds

And staff + combat ability builds

[hardy raft]

i still feel like blazing trauma is the most slept on build for trauma still

[rich jolt]

Ah ok

[stable hare]

i thought its the most popular build for it?

[hardy raft]

in here rending is more popular

might be just SEA stuff

[stable hare]

you mean the discord?

[wind spruce]

Rending was popular first

[hardy raft]

not here i dont see how people run here lolz

[wind spruce]

And I think a lot of people just haven't worked out that blazing spirit is superior now

[brittle cargo]

In QP I rarely see blaze trauma. Like maybe 1/50 psykers

[wind spruce]

Despite the fact that rending also gets ragged on a lot in this discord

[hardy raft]

blazing spirit still kinda feels awkward if you cant actually snowball it since it doesnt have flurry

[wind spruce]

The real difference is that trauma provides superior CC

[hardy raft]

its easy to snowball it but in some situations the guys next to you just takes all the kills and you're just left with a wierd CC soulblaze staff thingy

pruga can deal more soulblaze and faster at doing so, but it doesnt have CC, at most ragers and maaaaybe maulers

trauma dumps anything that isnt a boss

[marble crater]

With trauma you also still have your lmb for longer ranges, which is something I miss on purgatus

[stable hare]

Heres my trauma

[wind spruce]

That's fine

[hardy raft]

looks solid for the most part

[wind spruce]

Like an 8/10

[hardy raft]

i feel like pruga shriekspam can do wonders tbh

mostly cause you can roll up to 10+ stacks easily

[stable hare]

i just feel like its lacking comparatively. But it can quite easily be me being bad still

[wind spruce]

But yeah purg suffers from having to rely on BB more

[hardy raft]

blazing trauma feels bad when you cant snowball(i.e. kill elites and proc PC)

[wind spruce]

When you have a competent team steamrolling for sure

[hardy raft]

6 stacks is fine at killing chaffs but also quite slow

[wind spruce]

But as soon as its just you

[stable hare]

do you play blazing trauma with empowered psyonics or warp siphon?

[hardy raft]

this is the only part that makes the blazing trauma look bad tbh

WS

WS rightside

[wind spruce]

WS is the real king of the build

[stable hare]

ah i was using psyonics

[wind spruce]

Although these days I be running assail + DD blaze trauma

[hardy raft]

DD?

ah right

[wind spruce]

Yeah don't use EP with trauma

[hardy raft]

true aim rending blaze

that seems fun

[wind spruce]

Unless you're running assail

[stable hare]

was following the example build from the Atheneum

[brittle cargo]

Copy agentchaos’s build

Never let me down

[stable hare]

where

[restive ice]

check under your fore skin

[wind spruce]

Unfortunately the atheneum builds are extremely questionable

Very idiosyncratic choices

[stable hare]

well it does say example builds

[wind spruce]

One sec I'll build it

[stable hare]

but i started from there and made some adjustments

[marble crater]

Already did

[stable hare]

tranquility instead of harvest?

more important than survivability?

[wind spruce]

Fk u

[marble crater]

[wind spruce]

Essence harvest and tranquillity can be swapped

It's personal preference

[stable hare]

Thanks

[wind spruce]

Theory needs choose essence harvest

[marble crater]

This is Agent's he probably didn't change them since he is busy cuddling with penguins or something

[wind spruce]

I have not having soulstealer ugh

Why can't there be one more point

[marble crater]

I could you could play with only 4 charges, but I don't wanna

[wind spruce]

Honestly, kinetic deflection can be dropped imo. People take it for unexpected rager packs, and that's the only good justification

Bosses... learn to dodge.

[whole shoal]

can dump kinetic reflection for soulstealer

[stable hare]

its a crutch i can't remove for now

seems so useful

[wind spruce]

Are you running a stamina curio?

[stable hare]

1 stam and 2 tough

[wind spruce]

The enlightened trauma build

[wind spruce]

Goodgood

Yeah KD is so powerful

[stable hare]

tough regen + sniper + tough

[wind spruce]

I'm a big whatever floats your boat guy for curio perks

[stable hare]

although i'm not getting hit by snipers so i might change it

[wind spruce]

But also not taking combat ability regen hurts

[stable hare]

yeah that

[wind spruce]

Running three is definitely overkill

You're only getting 12.4% reduction from the third one anyway

[marble crater]

Ordo dockets is the most underrated curio perk

[wind spruce]

Combat ability regen is imperative for blaze trauma

[wind spruce]

Experience

[marble crater]

Not for console people

[wind spruce]

Because it reduces your CD by about 3.5s, which when you're running warp charges and seers presence brings a your combat ability down to 11s cooldown

Combat ability regen just gets better the more you have of it, because each chunk reduces your next total by a greater percentage

[stable hare]

ok i changed my mind

this build you gave me is the bomb

• CD was really good

cooldown reduction

[restive ice]

c deez nuts

[jovial juniper]

dies of prank

[hardy raft]

hmmm.

might need to get another curio then

[wind spruce]

An extra 1.2s reduction is godlike when your cooldown is less than 10s already with 6 warp charges and a measly two psykinetics aura procs

[hardy raft]

sounds reasonable

[stable hare]

so what would you say the best curio perks in general are? ability regen, toughness regen and tough or hp?

[wind spruce]

Yeah those are the top ones imo

Can throw some sniper resist in to

And I run gunner resist on gun psyker

[hardy raft]

gunner resist without does scare me a bit lmfao

kek

[wind spruce]

Yeah I feel that

It's just comfy knowing you can outlast them

I'd rather have gunner resist than sniper resist any day of the week, but I only get hit by a sniper once every 10 games or so I reckon

[stable hare]

i got all 3 curios with toughness regen and ability regen and i have one of each 5% tough-sniper-gunner res

[marble crater]

Not sure one gunner res will do much

[wind spruce]

I approve

[wind spruce]

I think it's hard to get your head around, but conceptually I really like it

Because you get the most out of the first one

[stable hare]

its my one locked perk from a 17% toughness curio

so i have to live with it for now

[wind spruce]

I've had it in my head as theoretically the best choice for ages

[marble crater]

Yeah, I run 3 from back when I had problems in Heresy, so I don't even know if I actually still need them or not

[wind spruce]

You could drop the third one, for sure

12.4% gunner resistance

Eww

I was running three health curios with three health perks for melee maelstrom the other day

Because without gunners and shooters toughness is way less valuable

And holy shit

I survived THREE poxbursters

It felt so dirty

[marble crater]

[wind spruce]

I've been running 165 health on my gunker for so long

I forgot what health actually does

[lavish glade]

Had nearly i think 500 health on ogryn w all health curios

[wind spruce]

I'd love a mod where I could play with that health on psyker, even just solo

[broken carbon]

the children yearn for unchained psyker

[rich spindle]

toughness regen is pretty useless on psyker

you basically never rely on the passive regen

[worn cypress]

what lol toughness regen is BIS

[mild junco]

My shovel mk5 ass sweating in the corner

Chain heavies, and if there's a big one, special heavy

rince, repeat

[upper sun]

thats 4 times more gameplay than shield

[long wharf]

It really isn't

As psyker, you get toughness back for crits, building peril, querying peril, killing with warp

It's so easy and frequent that as long as you're actively playing, toughness regen is moot

I put stamina regen on every curio

Toughness regen has never kept you from dying

[fiery wigeon]

stamina is always nice to have more of

[thin finch]

It's kind of the point tho

[long wharf]

Not counting as dodging when you dodge, not sprinting when running, or finding yourself unable to dodge, however, has killed you

[thin finch]

I dunno if curio increase toughness regen of perk tho ,never considered it

Anyway it's not like it matter when I have 90 toughness , that would be like +1 toughness per node or some shit

[long wharf]

Yup

+toughness curious are a waste for psykers

[haughty star]

Psyker toughness is like a bumper rather than a pool

[thin finch]

A poxwalker graze my back and my toughness is gone

[long wharf]

That's true of every class right now

[haughty star]

What is?

[thin finch]

I think Pogryn still get ok from toughness tho. They also have more perk to regen it with their weapon

Which is fair ,they're big guy, we are glass canon

[long wharf]

I still run only health on ogryn

[thin finch]

If the pox don't kill me my mind will anyways

[thin finch]

I think the pogronomicon also recommands health over toughness

[untold niche]

anything happened that made you guys happy/cheerful lately?

[marble crater]

Em album release

[untold niche]

oh right i havent listen to it yet but people are saying its reminding them of his old stuff

[marble crater]

Sure does, if you listen to it then really should be in order

You will laugh and probably cry too

[untold niche]

am just feeling abit down so just want to hear happy stuff :v

from random internet peepo

remind yourself of the blessings in life and all

[marble crater]

Everything except two tracks will cheer you up

[fiery wigeon]

wind rose released a new song called "rock and stone"

[plucky flax]

They ruined ogryn shovel with bm nerf.

No more multi crushers kills.

[upper sun]

no more 5 crusher one taps 😭

pls buff shovel

[hardy raft]

pls tone down crusher furball spawns

[upper galleon]

I think the issue is the patrols and patrol avoidance just doesn’t work in DT

[haughty star]

Oi got a Playset for my kids for the back yard and the surprise on their face almost made me cry lol

[untold niche]

woah thats nice, playset is like those playground sets?

[haughty star]

Yeah it's got a slide and a swingset and a chain monkey bar thing

[untold niche]

you buy from a local guy? seems premade

[upper galleon]

So many ranged attacks going out, and all active patrols being aggro’d if a horde spawns, makes it nearly impossible to avoid them unless you are in a dedicated group

[haughty star]

Yeah it was used originally from menards. Could use some paint but she's sturdy yet

[untold niche]

must be good knowing your kid won't be another ipad kid
THe wood looks old but seems sturdy, prob look good after some varnish

[haughty star]

I'm gonna paint it with this stuff and some white I got laying around

It seals splinters and stuff in so that shouldn't be a issue

[untold niche]

just curious why not just apply a layer of varnish
Like the opil then you put another layer to seal it in

or is it because the wood is too porous

i never done woodwork before

so genuinely asking

[upper sun]

that wouldnt work too well for woods that arent very hard

[untold niche]

i see

[raw token]

do gunners take 10% extra damage from the +10% to elites perk?

[lunar hollow]

yes

[haughty star]

I'm quickly enjoying 10 percent alot more than flak on alot of my stuff

[near wyvern]

Notice that the +10% is additive where as the +flak and +unarmoured are multiplicative bonuses but only work against that armour type parts

[upper sun]

yeah flak for example will increase dot damage on all gunners since it targets central mass which is all flak on both of them

[haughty star]

Like evis 15 works really well with elites and maniac cuz it doesn't really struggle with anything flak

[upper sun]

i take unarmored maniac on evi 15 tbh

[haughty star]

Less work this way

[upper sun]

sometimes unarmored crit

[haughty star]

Wait for what lol

[upper sun]

lmb spam

[haughty star]

It taps all the unarmored stuff with rampage and it has that hard cap of 4

[upper sun]

im locked to perfect strike

[haughty star]

I do manite cuz it struggles with mix ins

[upper sun]

so i went all in on the meme with shred crit

[haughty star]

This makes more sense I guess

I have one with wrath in lieu of shred and I also have one with bromentum lmao

[upper sun]

wait what

WHAT

EVI HAS BRUTAL?

[jovial juniper]

Sprint efficiency stamina

[jovial juniper]

No

It has momentum

[upper sun]

ah ok

@haughty star u almost made me shit myself

[jovial juniper]

💀

[marble crater]

Momentum on evis is very comfy

[haughty star]

Rampage is literally mandatory lil

[near cobalt]

Can anybody post me some screenshots of a Psyker wearing "Gloriana" Redemptor's Veil with the Pollium Verates Chest and Pants?

[fresh reef]

thank you quickplay

[near cobalt]

is a psyker using a force sword with deflector a good build?

wanting to do a melee-centric psyker that can block a lot of raw damage

[haughty star]

I mean

Force swords block well without deflector if you have kd they just don't stop bullets

[near cobalt]

i desire sniper blocking

being able to just block a sniper feels nice

[jovial juniper]

Then Wall or Bubble

Deflector won't stop snipers

I tried kek

[near cobalt]

?

mostly does

[marble crater]

If you can try to block a sniper shot you can probably also just dodge the sniper shot

[near cobalt]

more option though, yknow?

[raw token]

isnt additive better?

[ornate hamlet]

Multiplicative will compound with (on?) other multiplicative bonuses

So if you have base x +20% x +30%, you get more than +50% when multiplicative

[halcyon gust]

Okay game. Decide to bless my Psyker

[hollow current]

[halcyon gust]

I assume I want to replace Thrust 3 with 4 once I eventually get it or replace it with something else

[near wyvern]

Additive is worse in terms of offensive power since multiplicatively stacking damage buffs also increases the value from your other buffs.

Let's you have 4 warp charges (+16%, additive) , +20% power (multiplicative) from something and then choices are +10% additive or +10% multiplicative damage.

With additive +10% you will deal:

• (1 + 0.16 + 0.1) * 1.2 = 1.51, +51% additional damage

With +10% multiplicative you will deal:

• (1 + 0.16) * 1.2 * 1.1 = 1.53, +53% additional damage

Might seem small but then again we have more buffs than this and the multiplicative vs armour perk is 25% at the highest level.

Currently we have 3 sources of multiplicative damage buffs, those are rending, power and +armour perks. Each of the three are very important and stacking them all together yields even greater results.

[broken carbon]

kinetic deflection with a +3 stam curio will let you block for a really long time

because the amount of peril generated depends on how much stamina is consumed

so the more stamina, the less peril gen

[near cobalt]

does reducing peril generation increase efficiency?

oh

[broken carbon]

lmfao

[near cobalt]

that's huge

[broken carbon]

yah

[near cobalt]

i thought it was tied to peril gen, not stamina

[broken carbon]

you still cant block crusher or mauler overheads due to their inherent traits

but everything else is game

can u block a trapper net with deflector?

idk

[broken carbon]

and i think the plague ogryn slam?

[broken carbon]

norp

[haughty star]

No it doesn't. Sniper round isn't a projectile

[hardy raft]

deflector is like a shield, except snipers

if you try to tank a sniper round like a shieldgryn you get quickly told that you arent a shieldgryn

[broken carbon]

booooorrrriiiiingggg

[haughty star]

Deflector is a good way to ruin a perfectly good illisi

[broken carbon]

real men just eat the sniper

[broken carbon]

its not terrible

illisi really only needs slaughterer to work really well

[hardy raft]

uncanny needed for intense crusher killing activity

[broken carbon]

uncanny is nice but

it depends on what ur ranged is

if u have a trauma or surge then u dont really need it

[hearty oak]

Or brain burst

[haughty star]

Uncanny just feels good

And slaughterer is no brainer

[broken carbon]

yah

i agree

[upper sun]

bruh why cant i get shit like this on psyker

[lunar hollow]

psyker does not have access to rippers

smh

[upper sun]

why is arco responding to me on an alt account?

[lunar hollow]

if you ever insinuate i am in any way related to arcotash again there will be legal repercussions

[upper sun]

hes the only human being capable of this level of density

[lunar hollow]

he is a goose

[hardy raft]

but i thought-

[tacit cove]

which blessings do i need

[upper sun]

change run n gun to nexus

[languid shuttle]

Which of the three force swords is the best for horde clear? Illisi?

[upper sun]

and infested to flak

it would make a great blaze trauma once the crafting update is out

[marble crater]

Yes illisi, with slaughterer and uncanny strike, flak and manic

[languid shuttle]

I figured I'd want deflector no matter what

What are the best blessings for the purgatus staff?

[upper sun]

nexus/flurry

[marble crater]

Then slaughterer und deflector

[languid shuttle]

Lucky me, I just rolled slaughterer

old voidborn luck I guess

[upper sun]

@spice veldt it happened again but this time in meatgrinder the quell animation thing is not serverside

[spice veldt]

yeah whatver i said before i'm pretty sure i said it's just that animation issues get exacerbated by ping

since i've had this happen to me before in the meatgrinder as well

[upper sun]

🤔 how the fuck do i report something i cant recreate

[marble crater]

You don't

[fiery wigeon]

ive eaten a sniper shot to protect a teammate who was rezzing before

no idea if that was necessary but it was funny

[spice veldt]

they can prob just figure that it's not doing the quell animation properly after a purg cast

[strong gulch]

It's me. I'm the real man. 🥲

totally not a skill issue

[plucky flax]

Me running 2x sniper resist.

[upper sun]

smh sedation strats

[near wyvern]

It wasn't cause sniper shots penetrate and will hit multiple players if they are lined up

[fiery wigeon]

aw

maximum silly

[vernal blaze]

what do i change here

or well

i think i know what has to change

but to what is what i meant

[jovial juniper]

Do you have Uncanny Strike?

[vernal blaze]

yeah

[broken carbon]

exorcist to either slaughterer or uncanny

depends on what ur running it with

[vernal blaze]

voidstrike in this case

[broken carbon]

hmm

iuhuhuhuh

idk

depends if u want more horde clear or armor pierce

[vernal blaze]

which yeah i guess sort of invalidates the need for a melee weapon at all

[broken carbon]

you could also swap both for uncanny and slaughterer to have a really good sword overall

unless ur actively trying for crits

[vernal blaze]

i...

dont have t3 or 4 slaughterer?

huh.

[fringe garden]

Are people using Obscurus more now? Still seemed kinda crappy after the recent change

[broken carbon]

it gave it a really good H1

so its kinda in between the deimos and the illisi now

i think that they both are better than the obscurus

but the obscurus at least isnt terrible to use anymore

[vernal blaze]

well i do have a t4 slaughterer i could rip but that would mean getting rid of a decent looking deimos

i still have no idea which one i should be using over the others

[broken carbon]

the deimos is okay, good stat distro but subpar perks and has deflector

for the deimos swap deflector to uncanny and groaners to maniac or carapace

and itd be pretty solid

if u have the plasteel u could try to just gamble for slaught

[vernal blaze]

is that the best one i have to work with

i dont have all that much plasteel to gamble with so yeah i dont think that options still on the table

[broken carbon]

lemme look

yah

out of those demios's

thats probably the best

[marble crater]

Out of those two deimos or force swords in general?

The fourth one I guess

[vernal blaze]

lmao

i know warp rider dd or uncanny will take up the slack

but man

[haughty star]

I'd just farm up a good illisi and rip the slaughter off that deimos

[upper sun]

i know that feel bro

took me a few attempts too

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1217454466500919306/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.03.13_-_13.48.49.04.png?ex=669277d4&is=66912654&hm=b7817c40344dee621e5141bd741667474de68e4d074e662db492c6ffbc9b4162&

[haughty star]

Deimos is just kinda bleh cuz ds4 exists

[upper sun]

oh wait nvm i was trying to do that one without maniac

[broken carbon]

deimos is just a ds with a bit better horde clear

but is a bit more difficult to get the single target combos out of

[haughty star]

Ehhh

Ds has much better mobility too is the main thing for me and the taps aren't locked behind a dumb evisceration

[plucky flax]

Deimos with uncanny and deflector.

[upper sun]

and stamina and block efficiency

[plucky flax]

Veri cool.

[haughty star]

Really the only reason to run deimos over ds4 is if you want deflector

Imo other than just doing something different than ds

[upper sun]

yeah kinda

i only run ds4 with trauma in melee maelstrom

[haughty star]

Most if the time I'm just running the shitter illisi

But I use surge and shield with warp charges and br or shriek wirh smite and warp charges so the illisi fills in gaps in those instances well

[plucky flax]

Surge bb shield

That is some build.

[upper sun]

[calm sapphire]

Deimos is too stronk atm

The cheese h1 is too good at staggering crushers n elites

[quartz barn]

is running surge even worth it?

feels super underwhelming compared to all the other staffs

and has very little aoe to really compete

[haughty star]

Bb synchros well with shield and surge is a okay general use staff

And it's different lol. Get pretty tired of playing smiker with surge and venting shriek

[haughty star]

Surge is more for plucking out elites and letting perilous do the rest. I personally don't really like any other staff more tbh

[thin finch]

I would encourage to keep your plasteel for now considering the crafting update soon

try to fill your sticker book but keep some resources

[haughty star]

Not soon likely well into fall lol

[thin finch]

in 2 month at the very least but that's still a soon to me

[halcyon gust]

Would be a good time to just horde materials for it

[upper sun]

I miss the 40k plasteel i had before getting thrust 4 😭

was it 40 or 50 i dont even remember 😭 😭

[plucky flax]

Yes if you spam creeping flames.

You can see my damage numbers.

[thorn cedar]

man

recon psyker kinda fucks now

kinda hard

[ionic oasis]

Hello siblings! Was experimenting with the recent lasgun buffs and I came up with this no-warp attack Gunker build that relies on the Recon Lasgun VId's ability to output a ridiculous number of crits. Will test it out later but thought I'd share, would love feedback for My Beloved!
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c82159e-fbbe-4516-90d9-0a554a1610fe/critfish-no-blitz-gunker

[thorn cedar]

oh speak of the devil

[ionic oasis]

Timing 😂

[thorn cedar]

i would not do headhunter on the lasgun

do dumdum instead, or dumdum headhunter

but if you do want infernus, you have true aim, which is already pretty much build-in headhunter

and thats sufficient enough for reliable tick applications

[ionic oasis]

Hmm, better than even more crits huh? I suppose there could be a line

[thorn cedar]

keep in mind the 6d fires 20/s

most targets dont really live that long

so infernus is only for larger targets

infernus can also help you get more consistent TTK results, whereas headhunter would be higher potential DPS with its crits

either way dumdum is a must, it's really just free damage

[ionic oasis]

good to know

I was tempted to take a force sword with Blazing Spirit but I figured mixing and matching soulblaze and regular fire wouldn't be terribly effective

[thorn cedar]

tree looks fine really

i didnt do scriers

but thats certainly an option lol

that was today's project

[ionic oasis]

It was inspired by the game I just had where I found I didn't have time to use Assail, because by the time I used Scrier's Gaze and the peril had come back down it was practically ready to go again. So I figured why not just spend the entire match in Scrier's?

Will test soon and post with feedback

[wise sundial]

Curios... there's a lot of things people agree and disagree on

What are your thoughts on gunner resistance?

[thorn cedar]

i cant remember where the last point goes

but i was doin this

gunner resist is either the best thing ever or complete dogwater

[wise sundial]

How can it be either or haha... do we not know?

[thorn cedar]

i think it does exactly what it says on the tin, but i also think you have a lot of better options for your curios/for handling gunners in general

ie. solid cover, sprinting, sliding

[ionic oasis]

Interesting, I usually don't go with Smite + Destiny because I find Assail has more synergy. How was Smite working for you?
@wise sundial it's not bad because gunners will murder you, but depends on the build. If you have Shield or Deflector + Kinetic Deflection you can deprioritize it

[wise sundial]

thanks that makes more sense

[thorn cedar]

smite keeps me safe, gets me into position, locks down/exposes targets to shoot

[wise sundial]

I just play all 4 classes equally so I am like a jack of all trades master of none... I forget a lot of stuff

[ionic oasis]

@thorn cedar do you not usually take Purloin Providence on the Disrupt Destiny tree? I usually do out of habit but I'm wondering how good it actually is

[halcyon gust]

Reason why everyone tends to stack 3 20% gunner resist curio effects

[thorn cedar]

purloin is goofy

but no i do not normally take it

[spice veldt]

only for the scrier's maxxers

[thorn cedar]

yeah it just asks for something of a confluence of weird scenarios

that like

arent impossible, or even uncommon

but are rarely that serious either

and just standard quelling is so strong now

im fine with bm since its always happening

[strong gulch]

If you have a tendency to get caught by gunners, and I means gunners not just anything with a gun, gunner resist can be helpful.

If there are few gunners or your situational awareness is always on, then it's not going to do as much for you.

Curios are largely personal preference and playstyle. Though, a 21 health curio with sniper resist provides enough cushion to not get completely destroyed by a sniper or a burster.

That's my main recommendation.

[wise sundial]

Hey thanks so much, you are heard... taking these into consideration.

[marble crater]

Just dodge

[haughty star]

I personally like running 2 health curio and one +3 on psyker as toughness curios net you basically nothing

[strong gulch]

There is a psyker guide in the pins. It called the Atheneum. It also has info on curios. It's a solid source, but it isn't the end all be all.

Also be advised that +3 Stamina cruios with a 75 rating are bugged. They are actually +2 stamina. If you want a +3, it needs to be higher than 75.

[ionic oasis]

@exploits looks like you were right about True Aim + Headhunter, according to the Psyker Atheneum it does even less than I thought

I strongly recommend running True Aim with this gun as it makes the fire application extremely reliable. However, in case you cannot afford it, you can replace Dumdum with Headhunter at the cost of ammo efficiency. Notice that it is not that beneficial to run both Headhunter and True Aim as the Headhunter stacks reset whenever True Aim procs, resulting in very little extra benefit.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[strong gulch]

True.

me screaming "why didn't I move"

[haughty star]

+3 is pretty much mandatory as that with kinetic deflector makes you basically immortal to most bossing damage

Hell you can tank deamonhost like that lmao

[strong gulch]

Remember when tanking DH was super busted?

That really did need a nerf.

[haughty star]

It's objectively super busted still lmao

You watch any skilled psykers videos they're basically just running backwards when they're in trouble tanking everything with KD when they get in a tricky spot

[broken carbon]

no blitz
look inside
brain burst equipped

[ionic oasis]

you got me there 😂

[ionic oasis]

Here you go, true no blitz Psyker
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c8225f2-f907-4241-b883-6f662f5311b1/true-no-blitz-psyker

[strong gulch]

basket only

[broken carbon]

hell yeah

[halcyon gust]

Great when DH used to murder 2 people before dipping out

[hollow current]

when you could just dodge infinitely with the force swords and the dh couldn't touch you

[halcyon gust]

Why. Can't. I. Kraking. Hit. YOU. HOLD STILL YOU PEICE OF SHIT

[broken carbon]

damnation should’ve kept that tbh

it was fun

[halcyon gust]

Would been nice, but at the same time. Rather not have 2 drop because of DH murdering half of your team because you had a Heretic among you

[plucky flax]

Some people sweat by it I don't run it. I run 2x sniper resist instead.

[upper sun]

im simply 2 good to run sniper resist

[plucky flax]

When you are in the top 1% bracket you can talk to me again.

[upper sun]

unironically tho sniper resist is a must for me on ogryn because that shit is impossible to dodge on ogryn

[upper sun]

just play like a coward and you wont have sniper problems

[vernal blaze]

can you crouch out of sniper shots like you can with hounds

[upper sun]

you can but i wouldnt its not super safe

[vernal blaze]

i swear i just fumbled a quick sprint into slide mid horde but i still got the block sfx for the sniper going off

[upper sun]

jumping is better than crouching for snipers

[vernal blaze]

yeah that was probably it then

[upper sun]

trapper resist when 😭

i failed the QTE so bad there

[plucky flax]

I leave teammates behind no matter what class. Always being selfish in war.

Not my fault they can't keep up.

[upper sun]

yeah i should do that more often

[plucky flax]

Then I get trapped or dogged, and get flamed.

Karma.

[upper sun]

i believe the clip i posted proves that its a loss loss no matter what

i need to start running revive speed or some shit

[jovial juniper]

Fun fact, trappers will net you at the last second of the rescue

[halcyon gust]

We love the last second trapper, Pox hound, or Mutie grab you before you can revive your friend

[analog agate]

I do toughness regen, toughness, health. I honestly have never done any research or testing what is the “best” for psykers for addons on curios

[upper galleon]

i have to force myself not to use trauma staff

i find psyker gets enough toughness from tlaent tree no need for toughness regen curios at all

[fringe garden]

Ole boy in the Atheneum seems pretty confident about them being the best thing for psyker

[rich spindle]

I think thats just because its outdated

Toughness regen on curios is just for the passive regen, which you basically never rely on if youre using a staff as psyker

[plucky flax]

Why use worst staff ever?

[tribal girder]

is purloin providence good? I have been using it but it was hard to notice it in the middle of the match

[upper galleon]

so terrible

literally blasting crusher packs apart

[plucky flax]

[rich spindle]

If youre using scriers gaze yeah

[hollow current]

15% quell per 20% chance? is that really a thing that works out

[thorn cedar]

yeah, it does

sometimes you even get lucky and it'll double proc it + battle meditation

if you have something thats heavy aoe it can absolutely take chunks off your perils meter and keep you in scriers for longer

super niche but thats what it do

[rich spindle]

Illisi H1 L1 combo in a horde

Plenty of DD targets to farm free toughness back and extended scriers

[plucky flax]

Do people actually do h1 l1 on illisi? It's so hard just light spam

[supple dock]

i heavy spam if not in danger, light spam if in danger

i keep it simple

[dusk void]

I swear I'll throw a fit at anyone in a mission who fucking pings the shit out of enemies. Like who's the priority enemy? Is pinging a shit ton of enemies really helping or annoying your fucking teammates and suddenly the whole team falls down because they can't fucking hear elites/specials coming?

[patent jacinth]

That is basically perfect

Do not touch any further

No idea, I don’t play psyker often

The weird bit about surge is you have to separate the 2 balls it shoots by rapidly panning you camera while firing

A target can only be hit by 1

[spiral storm]

I think rerolling crit chance is something you want

for maniac or carapace

You can force crits with one of the perks from the skilltree

so the extra damage is probably better than more critchance

[broken carbon]

ta?

if ur asking for dump stats

it’s not that big of a deal between the two

you might want to swap crit chance to maniac, carapace, or unyielding

depends on the build and how you feel with it

[hollow current]

hey wow that's a cool blinder the psyker has

TOO BAD THE FUCKING TOILET BOWL SEAT RUINS IT

thanks fatshark

[viscid heath]

Thinkin bout selling this

Doesn't seem good

[hollow current]

only really bad thing about it is the carapace being locked

at least purge is easy tho. just need cloud radius and burn.

[haughty star]

come on baby

[broken carbon]

it’s really good lol

it’s basically exactly what you want

[haughty star]

well

at least flurrys unlocked

running this to try out assail

do you need both the talents for assail?

[broken carbon]

you don’t really need the faster shard gen

if it’s not gonna be ur main weapon

especially with EP

[haughty star]

oh fair

[lethal lagoon]

Nah strong disagree.

You'll feel it in match.

[broken carbon]

if it’s not ur main weapon it doesn’t really matter

[lethal lagoon]

That was my line of reasoning, but it never really works out that way.

And TBF, assail is never the main weapon anymore.

The only time you shouldn't take recharge is if you take assail on void or trauma

[broken carbon]

when i use it its not that big of a deal

[lethal lagoon]

Until it is a big deal

[broken carbon]

i can’t infinitely throw out shards sure but i rarely need to do that

[lethal lagoon]

I would argue if you never feel like you need the recharge, you are better off getting something that lets you hit pyshkinetic aura.

[broken carbon]

fair

sometimes though with a build u just like

never really need ur blitz

[dark swift]

This useable for a gunpsyker?

[broken carbon]

i have smite on my void psyker just for bulwark backs and that’s it

it’s never useful elsewhere lol

[lethal lagoon]

The gun is still pretty ass, no? But that's about as good of a one as you'll get.

[broken carbon]

deathspitter to headhunter

and it’d be pretty good

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I didn't see that.

Agreed.

[broken carbon]

u type so properly

it’s so weird

not like

as a criticism

[lethal lagoon]

I learned it from all the texting I did with your mom.

She's a prim and proper lady.

[broken carbon]

she’s actually not

[lethal lagoon]

Until she's with me that is.

Too slow

[broken carbon]

she has no idea how to text lmfao

[lethal lagoon]

🐌

[broken carbon]

🧿🧿

[lethal lagoon]

I've confused quite a number of people by responding with;

Ok.

[broken carbon]

yeah

with how texting has evolved that comes off as

[lethal lagoon]

Esp when texting, I think I unironically caused a woman to ghost me cause of an "Ok."

[broken carbon]

“fuck you”

[broken carbon]

oh damn lmfao

it’s why i always say “kk”

comes off more casual and friendly

[lethal lagoon]

I've tried to stop myself when texting girls since then, but if it's like 2 a.m or I'm drunk how am I supposed to change my fundemental being?

[broken carbon]

lmfao

yeah fair

[lethal lagoon]

[eager token]

more like

atlasyesdead

[broken carbon]

more like

snoozevan

zinger.

bazinga

[eager token]

[lethal lagoon]

I found out my original name is already taken and googlable. I've had it happen before, I would hate someone to cyberstalk/attack an innocent person.

[broken carbon]

smartphOWNED.com

[lethal lagoon]

And I can be pretty abrasive at times, especially if you use smite and bubble.

[broken carbon]

i have smite and bubble on my void build….

💔💔💔

[lethal lagoon]

That doesn't count.

[broken carbon]

yah cuz i’m COOL

and PAWESOME

[lethal lagoon]

A void build is 99% void.

[broken carbon]

true

[lethal lagoon]

Even I've run smite bubble on void.

[broken carbon]

bubble is nice just cuz how fragile psyker is

give psyker toughness on dodge

[lethal lagoon]

Double warp expen. Make people take it.

[runic summit]

Never used void before
Surge for life

[lethal lagoon]

Is that a Surge Blessing joke?

[broken carbon]

surge staff users when there is more than 5 targets

[lethal lagoon]

[runic summit]

Thats why u spam your shriek needlessly at them

Are you really playing surge staff properly if you don't waste venting shriek at the worst conceivable times

[broken carbon]

ur only playing surge staff right if u have an absolutely terrible build

and then blame ur team

[runic summit]

True

[broken carbon]

now that i think about it

i haven’t seen a surge staff in like

months

guess it’s really unpopular in aurics

[lethal lagoon]

Do you really want to see this surge though

[supple dock]

why do i get up in the morning

[runic summit]

That's almost exactly what i run LOL

Oh

Nvm

[broken carbon]

explains why u shrieks all the time lmfao

[lethal lagoon]

It's set to Wumbo, for Ep Smite.

[broken carbon]

slumbo

[lethal lagoon]

The anger.

The rage.

The sheer brutality of daily life.

[broken carbon]

mainly so u can enjoy sweet treats tbh

[broken carbon]

booorrrriiinggggg

try a brownie

that’s why u get up in the morning

[lethal lagoon]

My standards too high for brownies

Once in a blue moon will I enjoy one.

[broken carbon]

okay but i make really good brownies

[lethal lagoon]

Really good is still less than great.

[broken carbon]

they r great