psyker-class

[upper sun]

thats enough for u

[haughty star]

That health tho

[upper sun]

i had one guy who was bricking missions do that

[late sapphire]

if games with 0 bots exist why in gods name cant we have solo

the whole 'technically difficult' thing was just outright a lie?

[upper sun]

then that person joined another mission

killed my bots bricked the map then left

[quartz barn]

Because if you cant see other players (aka their cosmetics) you'd be less likely to buy from the store so now you're forced into co-op

[potent echo]

But then private game with 2 players are a thing

[late sapphire]

And mmt is sanctioned

[quartz barn]

Ye but remember how private games were added later

[potent echo]

They could add solo right now

[quartz barn]

Yup and they purposefully changed it because fuck you

[potent echo]

But they won't because

[quartz barn]

Atleast you can mod it on pc

[potent echo]

Maybe they have some huge security flaw when only one player is connected

[quartz barn]

And xbox players prob shouldnt try to solo anyway

[potent echo]

Local server runs off your own PC right? Does MMT allow solo with progression?

[quartz barn]

No clue

[late sapphire]

yes

but fake solo ie you have to kill bots

[quartz barn]

Did that in vt2 for a hitless penance

Vs that reaper esque boss

[late sapphire]

i did a handful of the more annoying penances solo

kill x enemies in y seconds knock x enemies off a ledge etc

[quartz barn]

Only dt penance that genuinly took a lot of effort was the cliffhanger penance

[potent echo]

Huh, well 🤷‍♂️

Maybe it goes against their design philosophyTM

[late sapphire]

Took me about 2 min

[potent echo]

Smite makes it alot easier

[quartz barn]

Ye ik for a lot of people ch is easy somehow

[late sapphire]

Saw a good spot on a map, finished round, went there in mmt solo, pushed horde off cliff with shriek

[quartz barn]

Meanwhile i got the 4 elite/special with bb under 20 sec multiple times without trying

[upper sun]

vigil end event

[quartz barn]

Also before ep was a thing

[potent echo]

Chasm logistratum start

[late sapphire]

^^

bridge spot

[potent echo]

Ez

[quartz barn]

I got it done in the hourglass mission with the vault at the end

At the start, after the elevator ride

[potent echo]

That's a little sus

[late sapphire]

theres one specific spot where bots fall to death as well

[potent echo]

Oh the start

[quartz barn]

Ye near the hangar bay

If you drop down the scaffolding and turn around theres some corner with a ledge

And you always get hordes in that area so i just ran through and gathered the entire front horde near the edge

Chasm logistratum is def way easier with my skill now tho

[upper sun]

I legit dont know where i got it i think silo cluster but ive seen two people do it on vigil station during end event so that usually where i advise people tbh

its funny clif hanger is like long bomb for vet you either randomly get it or STRUGGLE

[potent echo]

Long bomb is easy

Long bomb zealot is crazy

[quartz barn]

Got long bomb on my first grenade throw because i didnt know the throw range

Long bomb zealot was easy too?

[potent echo]

I just

Had to actively hunt it

Who will throw a stun nade 40m at a sniper

[upper sun]

i got it in uhhh the one with the ammo crates

ikr

[quartz barn]

Meanwhile ogryn penances

[upper sun]

we dont talk about heavy hitter

or the box one

[potent echo]

The bull rush one was hard

[upper sun]

60 enemies?

[quartz barn]

I remember getting all base penances before the update in the first mission i played lmao

[upper sun]

theres like 4 rush ones

[potent echo]

60m

Now you have banana juice

[upper sun]

ye

i havent done 60 enemies yet tbh

[quartz barn]

Bull rush is kinda luck based

[late sapphire]

The 'rush 40m in 20s' one was hard

[upper sun]

there isnt a single fucking auric mission with 60 enemies

[late sapphire]

Now it's just one yellow stim

[potent echo]

Oh I had to hunt that

You uh go 3 rooms back from your team during horde

Spam push in a corridor

[upper sun]

bruh its not doable without cheesing it

[quartz barn]

Honestly rush 40m was more about the room to run rather than enemies to refund the cd

[potent echo]

End event for err scripture archivum thing

Has loads so you might get lucky

[late sapphire]

Back in my day the best way to get that was to rush off of a high place

[potent echo]

The final run to the elvator

[quartz barn]

You literally rush to someone who is unloading on specials, then rush back or in the next hallway

I got it in archivum sichorax too, but at the start

Rush up the small staircase, and the just through the tunnel

Place always has a guaranteed horde which helps

[late sapphire]

It was like that yeah

But we have cdr stims now

[upper sun]

man

the new smelter event just feels tedious

[orchid shadow]

Is that the change where they made you activate things in different places after killing the eyeball things? Like, why would anyone design that place where all the crucial elements are so far apart?

[upper sun]

ye

i think they just imaged teams would go there together but in reality its just gonna be a stealth zealot with a knife

doing all of them

[orchid shadow]

Just need a control room that Homer Simpson can manage.

[haughty star]

I've been running that shit as a bb and shield psyker lmao

Bb popping mix ins with perilous is super helpful once you learn the flow of it all

[brazen rampart]

I was doing that event as a martyr fotf zealout with an eviscerator and autogun.

I did 2 corruptors and 3 of the valves by myself on a histg damnation mission.

[haughty star]

After the changes with the DD I can no longer find anything with deflector sufficient. You just need all the damage you can get if you gonna use illisi on histg

[fringe garden]

Uncanny Strike and Slaughterer are just so good

[haughty star]

Yupp. Turns the illisi into a horde muncher rather than a alt devils claw lol

[fringe garden]

Illisi/Voidstrike to me just feels supremely good in every situation. It has various amounts of knockback, horde clear, and snipe potential. There is never a situation I feel like I am ill prepared for.

[haughty star]

Lately I've been doing...

This with illisi and surge

[fringe garden]

I used to prefer surge but eventually got to a point where I felt like Voidstrike can do everything surge can do but at greater ranges while hitting more targets

But there is definitely something to be said for only having to vaguely aim in a general direction

[haughty star]

I have a surge with all 80s and 70 warp res with 70 quell so it's pretty strong. I like the tazing of it too

[fringe garden]

Yeah it's a great staff. All of the staves are pretty good, really

I usually have Voidstrike out for 70% of the match. Even in relatively close range combat I just dash backwards and line up hordes. And something about getting a feel for how much I need to charge the staff to get a specific outcome. Like how much to charge to 1 shot a rager in the head, or a quick charge to stagger a gunner to then give me enough breathing room charge up a big shot.

It's just fun, I think

Not to mention surge procs 1 shotting Crushers

That's a good time

[slate cedar]

Trying to get Perilous Focus, any tips?

[marble crater]

Illisi and horde

[slate cedar]

Illisi?

[marble crater]

The Illisi force sword

Use an illisi, run into a horde and use sciers gaze

[haughty star]

A good illisi

None of this deflector dogwash on there

[slate cedar]

what I'm doing atm then. Guess I just need to do it better.

thanks for the tip though

[near wyvern]

Illisi with quell on weakpots or voidstrike with flurry + transfer peril, I did mine with void

[marble crater]

I did mine with assail and columnus, like a sophisticated psyker

[near wyvern]

Also helps if you go warp siphon keystone and take peril resistance on siphon charges and the second last node on right which gives you 4% chance to get warp charge for each kill within coherency

And definitely pick up battle meditation

[marble crater]

And the worse sciers gaze, with peril reduction

[upper sun]

vigil station end event with ciag

bodyblock your team

start in the event room then go through it and camp the spawn

if you get lucky with spawns should be very easy i got it in low intensity

[slate cedar]

Ironically enough after I posted this second big horde and I got it. Thanks though, lol

[marble crater]

You can't anymore

[rigid sky]

[big shot]

[upper sun]

i thought it was only lasguns

[rigid sky]

https://images.app.goo.gl/ptWLjo8gCkjACutG6

[marble crater]

All guns

[brazen rampart]

I smell spamton.

[winter lotus]

Levelling my psyker and staves feel so bad

What am I missing? Even shock staff feels oof

Too much work to just do the same thing other classes do much easier

Are they just poor for levelling and strong at endgame?

[eager token]

purgatus and voidstrike are great for leveling

the others are kinda high roll and blessing dependent i guess

[spice veldt]

trauma is notoriously bad at low levels cuz it has one of the wider stat scalings

otherwise i would think that the other staffs are fine or similar to guns in how they scale

[eager token]

just remember they fit different use cases, purgatus will have great horde clear and stagger but lackluster single target

make sure you’re using them to their strengths

[delicate dove]

thanks hadron

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-frustrated-mad-upset-gif-17923398

[plucky flax]

Deflector blessing goated on force swords.

[rich spindle]

Ah hell nah

[winter lotus]

Thanks all

[marble crater]

You are missing levels to get higher stat staves, that's it really

[flint plover]

Deflector is only goated for people who can't matrix dodge

[plucky flax]

That's me i'm very bad.

[flint plover]

well heck

there goes my faith in you

next thing you'll tell me is that you think bleed builds are good

[haughty star]

I like bleed ogryn

[winter lotus]

Best way to use Duelist sword? I'm assuming it's bad for crowds

[buoyant maple]

Stab armored guy in the head

Uncanny + riposte is best imo

Do note that duelling swords have a really slow recovery into block after a heavy stab

[frail harness]

Mk IV is perfectly fine at clearing crowds if you have Scrier's Gaze

[plucky flax]

Bleed knife zealot and ogryn are good.

[flint plover]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-head-bow-respect-astarion-vampire-gif-3861972155830838769

[thorny dove]

What primary stat should I be stacking on my curios? Health or toughness?

[delicate dove]

for psyker, def say toughness

been running all toughness for a while, some runs you just don't take any damage at all

[buoyant maple]

Get >200 health with a 20% sniper resist if u can, and a +3 stamina
Then stack toughness tbh

[plucky flax]

Mr. Unsanctioned told me to run 2 hp 1 toughness.

[haughty star]

One toughness one health and +3

As you can see they're totally subjective lol

[buoyant maple]

Psyker can reach 200+ health easier than vet, u only need 1 health curio

[delicate dove]

depends on how reliably and quickly your chosen build can gain toughness

[buoyant maple]

So prob what bazerkerX said

[thorny dove]

this seems to be a matter of much debate

[plucky flax]

No soulstealer only mettle and quietude.

[haughty star]

I say +3 cuz in synchrocity with kinetic deflection it allows you to tank more from the bosses

[delicate dove]

what weapons?

[buoyant maple]

Safest bet is get 200+ health, a 20% sniper resist, one +3 stamina then stack toughness

I think most can get behind this

[plucky flax]

Burga, blaze trauma, surge. I run soulstealer with assail only.

[thorny dove]

Wouldnt stacking health offer more potential to take damage?

[plucky flax]

It also helps when you go for grims.

[tawny pebble]

As I reclall the way the % is calculated isn't all that great

[plucky flax]

I have 248 hp.

[tawny pebble]

reclallalal

[buoyant maple]

Which %

[haughty star]

Yes but both pools on psyker are gonna be pathetic either way and usually anything that knocks out your toughness is gonna take down a good chunk of your health

So it's nice to have some health there for a fallback

[buoyant maple]

Yes except psyker has extremely poor TDR so getting clubbed by a bruiser while on low toughness is like 1/3 health gone

[delicate dove]

One with the warp + all toughness nodes can really make you resilient

in my experience

[thorny dove]

Stacking toughness is only going to get me to about 150ish toughness, which would still leave me vulnerable to getting one-shot by maulers or crushers

[buoyant maple]

Mauler & crusher will 1 shot u no matter what unless u have gold toughness from teammates’ abilities

[plucky flax]

I am not a fan of high toughness stacking on psyker. 1 burster and you're in the grey zone.

[buoyant maple]

It’s simply not smth u build for

[haughty star]

That's a filthy zealot or vet thing

[buoyant maple]

This is why 200+ health matters imo

[delicate dove]

True, unless you have reliable ways of countering bursters, it can end up being really rare they hit you

love me smite and surge

[thorny dove]

In my experience, bursters seem to be very inconsistent with their burst radius

[haughty star]

I personally run a 21 percent, a +3stam for boss aggro, a 17 percent toughness, sniper bomber and flamer res and health and toughness on the curios effects

Bout as tanky as your gonna get psyker tbh

[delicate dove]

Maybe so, I always kill them from a range for that reason, with either of my zap options, very fun and reliable

[plucky flax]

Burster will always come and get ya in the most unexpected times.

[thorny dove]

smite has been good to get rid of them, since it keeps them stunned

[plucky flax]

Worse when they are quiet sneaky bastard and not beeping.

[haughty star]

And they're having audio dialogue problems again

[delicate dove]

I think smite is one of the only ways to trigger them to detonate without being close or bringing them to 0 HP

at least I'm not aware of others

but it's very good for that. One shove with lightning and they will always explode

[plucky flax]

Make green bursters a thing, immune to stagger and knockback. You can only kill them from afar.

[delicate dove]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-pinkman-aaron-paul-screaming-need-for-speed-gif-20658918

[plucky flax]

And they appear in non-blessed maps too for the memes.

[delicate dove]

hell

[plucky flax]

But anyway I often explode burster from afar before they get close to team.

Just safer that way.

[delicate dove]

def

[thorny dove]

as I type here my team mates are dying to bursters

[delicate dove]

My build is so anti burster I always forget how nasty they are for everyone else lol

the team has all exploded and I don't know what's happened

[plucky flax]

When I am not on psyker, like zealot for example, I run away from burster lol and let teammates deal with them.

They can kill themselves with those things.

[haughty star]

I run into them

Never trust random with busters lmao

Shove them things

[plucky flax]

Run into them and risk teammates explode them on your face.

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/bitch-be-gone-bye-bye-girl-okay-gif-14603832

[haughty star]

Truuu

It's really a lose lose

[delicate dove]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

when there's a burster horde

[haughty star]

Until one comes up from behind

[delicate dove]

or I get one shoved into me

[haughty star]

No matter how good you are

Everyone is equal to bursters

[delicate dove]

nothing is certain except bursters and taxes

[haughty star]

Heyyyy I run from both of those things

[upper sun]

ITS TIME

WHO WANTS TO SEE IT BRICK

[tawny pebble]

do it

it must be done

the omnissiah demands blood

[upper sun]

not bad actually

[tawny pebble]

[upper sun]

this sucks so much i can not explain ti

[tawny pebble]

Well, Gloryhunter isn't the worst thing

[upper sun]

this is actually ass

the weapon just sucks

[tawny pebble]

but yeah, puncture needed

[hardy delta]

bleed

[upper sun]

i put puncture on it

thats the damage after bleed

it unironically needs flak4 to function

[hardy delta]

ping fatshark, ask for buff

https://tenor.com/view/saul-goodman-better-call-saul-breaking-bead-walter-white-gif-6174761702766811539

[upper sun]

disappointment

[haughty star]

Tbh

He even looks disappointed

[hardy delta]

it works better on vet with +30% weak spot damage

i dont even know why use it on psyker

[haughty star]

Lol wut

[buoyant maple]

No
Elite + flak
Puncture + gloryhunter

Elite dmg is your answer

[haughty star]

Err gun good on psyker

[upper sun]

but then i dont do unarmored damage

[buoyant maple]

Elite applies to Dreg gunner too tho

[hardy delta]

are you gonna act dumb just because?.. ??

no actual elaboration?

[upper sun]

yeah but not by much

[buoyant maple]

Puncture works on assail

[upper sun]

i think i'll just not use it

[hardy delta]

you missed buddy

[haughty star]

Yes

[hardy delta]

dumbass

[upper sun]

that changed my mind

running it in auric rn

[hardy delta]

i player gun psyker once, and then some time for penances, and the forgot about it cause its just pure glass cannon

[haughty star]

Skill issue

[hardy delta]

oh, you're really not smart...

ok then, will treat you more simple

FS wants to rework psyker, no?

would be nice

[haughty star]

As in? Nerf it?

[wild night]

Letting me aim my fucking Surge would be nice.

[haughty star]

Personally never seen any murmuring about psyker getting redone myself but it's deffo not in need of more power if that's what your angle is

[haughty star]

Oh come on

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-60-60percent-60percent-of-the-time-it-works-every-time-gif-20673938

[wild night]

[hoary cairn]

So

What color would you say those bright ass eyes are on the psyker?

[wild night]

Warp Blue.

[buoyant maple]

Orange is nice too

[wild night]

Idk who the jackanape was that made the surge ONLY attack center mass.

[haughty star]

It would be so overpowered if it were aimable lmao

[strong gulch]

Hadron really wants me to meme.

[haughty star]

Bricked

I know people say it's bad

But like

I still wanna do it

[strong gulch]

If really wanna commit to the meme. Blazing spirit + exorcist and use gaze.

[upper sun]

tbh

it wasnt that good in the first place

[strong gulch]

sure wasn't

[upper sun]

put crit chance crit damage on it

[haughty star]

There is something to be said about swords wirh bad warp res

Ez uptime for unstable or the talent

[wind spruce]

Haven't you seen the athaneum. Apparently we should be putting unarmoured on it

[upper sun]

flak goes on all weapons

[wind spruce]

UNARMOURED AND WARP BATTERY OR BAD!!

🥴

[stiff falcon]

A smyker went afk in my game

[wind spruce]

"Ghost and Between the Eyes improve your anti-shooter role, however, Psykers have access to 'Ghost' through talents as well via Empathic Evasion."

Wtf does this mean

[stiff falcon]

Crit dodge

[wind spruce]

No, it says "have access to ghost through talents AS WELL as via EE"

[buoyant maple]

EE gives u what ghost does, so u don’t have to take ghost, essentially

[wind spruce]

I will take it literally

Because the sentence is incorrectly constructed

We can get Ghost from a talent that isn't EE

Amazing.

[strong gulch]

There is a place for low warp res force swords. Blazing spirit remains a joke tho. That is what I meant by "sure wasn't". I though the comment was on SB swords and not on low warp res.

[ornate hamlet]

What about DD or WS as the keystones?

[wind spruce]

Imagine

[buoyant maple]

To be fair
Half the would-be psyker talents are already in as the force weapons’ blessings I feel

[minor citrus]

does anyone have a quick rundown for deimos single target perks/blessings? I see loads of disagreements about it

this is what I've rolled atm, no changes

[wind spruce]

Hmm, with blessings like blazing spirit and surge, sure. The other blessings are comparable to what you get on other weapons

[buoyant maple]

Transfer peril as well

Focussed channeling

[wind spruce]

True, although they aren't any good. Also deflector.

There is plenty of build space for defensive and other talents that don't strictly relate to higher damage

[steel flame]

Where do you go to make builds/get opinions on your builds? I wanted to post mine here to get peoples opinions on it but I didnt want to spam the chat with a bunch of poorly cropped pictures

Also, is there a mod that fixes the glitch where buff icons just dont appear? It kinda sucks when I look at my buffs to see how many warp charges I have and the icons just not there

[restive ice]

make it here and zoom out to screenshot
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[steel flame]

Am I cooked or nah?

[potent echo]

Grab the crit node

I don't take either peril toughness regen

[potent echo]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/239

Some prerequisites and tinkering

[steel flame]

ty!

[narrow herald]

"gunpsyker is ass"

[stiff falcon]

fun game

ultra defensive

[steel flame]

Most gun psyker suck (looking at you, fresh level 30)
But the ones who actually play psyker well are absolute gods

[ebon pawn]

ammo is for nerds

i just use the power of my autism

[strong gulch]

😭

[potent echo]

How do pubs average 100k

[hardy raft]

tbh

in pubs ive seen people who drink more ammo than you and do no damage

[narrow herald]

yeah im not proud of taking ammo, but im a gun psyker so

😔

[hardy raft]

my best was a guy who was red ammo all the time as plasma

dude didnt register that spamming plasma gets him nowhere

[potent echo]

He might have been going for penance lol

[hardy raft]

lvl50 player on hishok auric

we died btw

[potent echo]

F

[hardy raft]

Russian player aint better at times i guess

Chinese is usually the one that is infamous

but some koreans like to be-a-dick if you know what i mean

[potent echo]

My server too far from russia

But sometimes I get Koreans I think

The glyphs mod is confused

[hardy raft]

NA west?

[potent echo]

Central pacific Asia I think

[hardy raft]

cpa

ah

ye i think we usually go na west more

[potent echo]

Or southeast something

How's your ping to na west

[hardy raft]

idk what was default for us

but i dont think it was centrail pacific, but idk

it might be and i might be gaslighting myself kek

around 140ms ping

[potent echo]

Not that bad actually

Oh my region is getting a direct underwater cable to NA west completing this year

Maybe I can play there soon

[tawny pebble]

I can't tell if I've just been lucky in pubs but I've been seeing a lot less teamwork lately

[true lake]

less teamwork? I honestly have never seen teamwork in the first place except for privates

[fiery stratus]

Anyone have suggestions on how to build for mark 3 shockmaul+shotgun ?

blitz doesnt really matter

assuming scriers gaze

[ornate hamlet]

Right tree funnies

[gloomy yarrow]

chat is this normal?

[tawny pebble]

then i've just been lucky lol

does Purgatus' DoT count as Ranged Damage?

for the purposes of right tree's boost

[gloomy yarrow]

no

its just a dot

although what boosts are you talking about cuz this could change things

[true lake]

the DoT is mainly seen as warp damage I think

for purgatus specifically

[gloomy yarrow]

the right tree boosts ranged damage and warp damage

[true lake]

it's kind of a weird subject what exactly it counts as

because it's technically both

[gloomy yarrow]

also about the flame staff I think crits give 2 procs of soulblaze instead of 1

[true lake]

yeah crits add more stacks

[tawny pebble]

the node below empathic evasion

and yeah, I have all the crit I can get

just trying to gild the lily where I can lol

[gloomy yarrow]

I think thats just gonna give you a 5% boost on the initial hit of the flame

[true lake]

as it stands for purgatus you mainly want high stacks, you can't do much to change the damage itself

mainly because it doesn't do much direct damage in the first place

[granite plaza]

crash

[jovial juniper]

Bandicoot

[upper galleon]

Okay

While crit chance from talent tree (besides scriers idk what is up with yall running that) and warp nexus blessing you already crit enough to maintain all your on-crit talents. Testing at 76% burn stat, the 5% crit chance perk only helps you reach max stacks 2-3% quicker, if the target even lives that long

Crits add one additional stack on direct hits, and i’m fairly certain at 76% burn you aren’t getting one stack per hit baseline

Getting 25% more to an armor type or 10% elites will boost your dot output way more than 5% crit chance perk

It simply isn’t worth the perk slot

[hearty oak]

I love the title system in this game

[upper galleon]

When they start adding class exclusive titles

[hearty oak]

they should

[true lake]

thats why people dont put crit chance on purgatus

no real reason to, it already kills everything quick enough

[supple dock]

it hits so fast, so often, for so little resource that you may not have a high crit/shots fired ratio, the sheer amount of shots fired are so overwhelming that it really doesn't matter 😄

[potent echo]

+25% maniac is nicer for purg imo

Decently good vs flamers and also naked ragers

[supple dock]

hmm yee

[hardy raft]

idk

[potent echo]

For unyielding I swap to melee

[hardy raft]

i like soulblaze stack 16

[potent echo]

Melee has +25% unyielding and carapace

[hardy raft]

anyway

now i have rashad

[true lake]

i usually put the extra elite damage

because you arent really going to be using your purgatus on most specials anyway

[hardy raft]

deos that mean i go scriar gaze and exe everyone?

[true lake]

and elites love to hide in hordes

[hardy raft]

i usually just go with crit chance

nexus does everything yes but between 7.5 +5 +5 +warp nexus usually 12% every 3rd striie becomes a crit

[supple dock]

COULD go flak/unarmored for bruisers

[hardy raft]

i am thinking about

scriar gaze pruga

for the funny

but it sounds like every keystone would suck

[true lake]

that entire side of the tree doesnt remotely benefit purgatus

we just had this discussion lol

[buoyant maple]

Just EP with 12.5% chance tbh

[upper galleon]

But crit chance mean more burn? Can’t be bad /j

Even doing the math 20% crit chance would be only 10-12% faster to max stacks, not including stacks you’d gain from PC

[true lake]

most of the horde would die quickly whether they have max stacks or not really

[upper galleon]

I’d rather just take vent

[upper galleon]

Yea exactly, how much better is time to max stacks if targets die before reaching it

[true lake]

thats what makes purgatus great

you dont even really need to build for it

it just works

[upper galleon]

You mean what makes soulblaze great kek

Like sorry

I love purge

But nearly every psyker build can get soulblaze

[true lake]

nah, ironically enough choosing the soulblaze talents on the left side of the tree is actually detrimental to the purgatus

because it makes it pretty much pointless

[upper galleon]

Yea but i’m saying instead of purge

I can go void

[true lake]

well depends really

[upper galleon]

Not even blazing spirit just PC and vent flames

And spread fire

[true lake]

purgatus is a horde clear, so if you are not wanting a horde clear weapon/ability then that is what purgatus is for

[upper galleon]

Or ep smite flames

Or boosting trauma with smite

Yee i use purge with BR

[true lake]

im still disappointed with blaze trauma i will be honest

like i know it works well in theory from trying it out in the grinder

but in practice it was not near as fun as my preferred build

and everything seemed to ignore the blast

[ornate hamlet]

GAMERS

Does perilous combustion get affected by my uncanny strike stacks?

[upper galleon]

I went rending shockwave and flurry on a god rolled trauma finally

[upper galleon]

Yes, but it’s update RT, no snapshotting

[ornate hamlet]

Based enough

[upper galleon]

Drop uncanny stacks, lose soulblaze rending

[true lake]

i feel like i would like rending trauma more

[upper galleon]

It was really silly

[true lake]

but then you lose out on the horde clear ability

[upper galleon]

I prefer void tho for playstyle

[true lake]

well yeah void is kind of the all rounder

[upper galleon]

I went trauma assail vent with warp charges

[upper galleon]

All pounder more like

[true lake]

hard to go wrong with normal bolt and big explosive bolt

[upper galleon]

I wanna get a surge blazing spirit void staff

[true lake]

surge with no warp nexus?

[upper galleon]

Cause you can just forces crits with the 5 weakspot for crit

[upper galleon]

Yea the weakspot talent

Procs for each hit and void cleaves a ton

[true lake]

i mean if you can make do with it

[upper galleon]

Line it up and you’ll be able to crit every shot if you have enough targets

[true lake]

would take a lot more brain power than i would prefer to use to line up that many people

[upper galleon]

I mean in auric damn and especially the new map

[true lake]

especially when i usually pull out my surge void for bigger armored guys

[upper galleon]

They kinda just line themselves up

[split lance]

either of these worth buying and eating from melk

[upper galleon]

Or you can use small bolts to get to 5

[upper galleon]

Not really no

Not from melk unless you are drowning in coins

[true lake]

i dont like the third and fourth shots in a salvo ones

[upper galleon]

But my main rn is nexus surge

[true lake]

those sound completely useless

[split lance]

im not drowning on blessings either

sounds good tho

t y

[upper galleon]

CIAG wants dum dum+ fire frenzy or deathspitter

[true lake]

yeah dum dum is the #1 go to

[upper galleon]

Dumdum most important

The salvo talents suck

[true lake]

hard to go wrong with it

the salvo ones would be nicer if you actually used the gun in automatic

[upper galleon]

Like the only good salvo talent is opening salvo on mk7 HH but it falls off compared to deadly accurate

[true lake]

but even then the game doesnt properly explain what a salvo is or how the game calculates between salvos

it just says the word expecting you to figure it out

[upper galleon]

Old mk7 blessing meta was opening salvo no respite but then they buffed DA and surgical

[true lake]

which is one thing i wish they fixed

[upper galleon]

Yea and some weapons vary a ton in salvo reset time

Can’t use opening salvo on inflas guns they take forever compared to headhunters

[true lake]

like context wise you can easily figure out salvo means a burst of multiple bullets

but like how much time before its considered a new salvo or whatever

just silly stuff the game really needs to have a resource ingame for imo

[potent echo]

There is

The buff bar

[true lake]

i shouldnt have to rely on the community or use tons of brain power and math to figure out what a blessing means or what enemy faction is which

[potent echo]

This is how fatshark keeps players talking about darktide till this day

[true lake]

sounds about right lol

in all fairness vermintide went the same way at launch

[potent echo]

VT2 had the goated royale w cheese

But in that game it's much much easier to godroll

So you can start properly planning around BPs

[true lake]

yeah because that game flat out gives you like multiple items each run with runs themselves usually being shorter

and you can scrap every item into dust to use to build up your item however you want anyway

or just build an entirely new item altogether in case of the DLC weapons

[potent echo]

Melee = swift slaying

[hardy raft]

i guess its 20 vs compared to 40 crit

ive seen many enemies die to full charge tbh

[true lake]

most of the time I just unleash it into the horde and whatever enemy happens to get near me dies to my slaughterer deimos anyway

[hardy raft]

i run crit flamer also so

[potent echo]

I feel like crit on purg matters more on lmb spam

You get more stacks faster if there's like 3 disjointed waves of ragers running at you

[upper galleon]

Yee

[hardy raft]

pruga has the forbidden animcancel tho

[upper galleon]

But if you have vent

No need for constant puffing

But u right crit help more there

[split lance]

could this be swapped to carapace or not really

[potent echo]

I'm not doing it

Or should I

[strong gulch]

It's good as is. If you REALLY want cara, swap crit chance. I'd leave it as it is tho.

[split lance]

ill leave it

[ocean cipher]

is Blazing Spirit a rare blessing

[potent echo]

There's no evidence to suggest rarity of blessings

[hardy raft]

manstopper is rare

[frail harness]

I gotta take Hadron out for drinks later

[true lake]

cursed sentence but certainly not a cursed roll

[hardy raft]

what would she drink

mineral oil?

[potent echo]

If she drink means she _________

[stone totem]

superior way to kill bulwarks just dropped

[hardy raft]

cant you PA to immediately knock his ass down?

[potent echo]

Yes

[stable hare]

Need some help with deciding whats best between those

[marble crater]

The first surge, even though quell speed is a bit low for my taste. And the second Illisi, you can still replace deflector with uncanny strike later if you want to switch your playstyle, plus I'm not a fan of exorcist.

On the second surge you can experiment with both perks though, so keep them both

Eventually you can eat it for the t4 Nexus, when you get a better Surge

[quartz barn]

Is there any reason to run exorsist aside from peril safety?

Seems like a wasted slot tbh

[wind spruce]

amazing

https://outplayed.tv/media/7lOmYJ

Double daemonhost shenanigans

[quartz barn]

Esp since you usually want to opposite, so more power at a higher risk

I personally have slaught / nexus for that reason

Doesnt really pair well with a nexus staff however

[marble crater]

I guess if you want to use your staff a lot but run shield instead of shriek, so you use your staff, switch to melee to quell while still dealing damage and then switch back?
Best use I can think of is extending sciers gaze

[quartz barn]

At that point you just run ds4 to avoid it altogether tbh

Dont see a point in swapping to melee to quell slightly more efficiently

Agree that it could be ok on gunker with scriers

[idle plover]

I love how shotty on psyker is such "i may be out of mana but not out of options" choice

[ornate hamlet]

Oh yeah, someone was telling me about reloads earlier and I forgot to test

[near wyvern]

Apart from doing the penance, no

[near wyvern]

Even then, uncanny slaughterer just allows you to drill through all of them

Mauler? Dead. Rager? Dead.

One is not allowed to stop until Beloved says so

[hardy raft]

you could deimos light cancel on enemy wp and just scriar everything idk

[upper sun]

https://streamable.com/jwzx5z

I love lines between the same personality

[stable hare]

Which one is better?

[hardy raft]

left change rending into blazing spirit and maniac into crit chance probably and its a good one

otherwise right also works

[upper sun]

ye theyre both alright for blaze and rending

right is fine as is left is good as a trauma staff

[floral olive]

Hi, anyone knows which is better/more popular between deimos and obscurus for weak spot hit fishing ?

[upper sun]

deimos does more damage on heavy 2 than obscurus heavy 1 but its a bit harder to hit

[floral olive]

Sounds like obscurus is way more comfy then

[potent echo]

plasteeeeel

[upper sun]

real

[stable hare]

what should i do with my last lock? maniacs to something +25% or warp nexus to T4?

[stable hare]

wait, what is blazing spirit?

[upper sun]

you can do flurry to surge or keep it as is

nexus 3 is fine until you're sure you wanna change

[upper sun]

its a blessing that makes you give soulblaze stacks on crit

[stable hare]

so its not worth the reroll for the t4

[upper sun]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

you can see the recommended build paths for staves here

[stable hare]

AH its t3 only thats why i couldnt find it

[upper sun]

nexus 4 is only 2% crit more than 3 its alright

[stable hare]

you think surge is better than flurry?

[upper sun]

nexus flurry is more spammy surge is for big crits

i run nexus surge crit on voidstrike because im a sucker for rng

[stable hare]

thanks for the info! Much appreciated

[upper sun]

np

[rigid sky]

Can your staff one-shot crushers without it?

Getting the fancy one-shot on crushers with 15 DD stacks is a power trip

[stable hare]

definitely not

[rigid sky]

that every psyker should try some time

I AM THE WARP

[stable hare]

haha

[wind spruce]

I have been thoroughly pilled by warp flurry & surge combo recently

[rigid sky]

Yeah, I would argue Surge + (Flurry or Nexus) is the way

[wind spruce]

It's so fucking good for a playstyle that involves weaving in lots of assails and pokes

[rigid sky]

Since True Aim enables Surge very well

[rich jolt]

Ah yes, the mythical 5 wound psyker

Ive only heard tales

Truly a sight to behold

[ornate hamlet]

I saw a 4-wound one today with 90 toughness

[karmic finch]

Did they lose 3 wounds to one burster?

[rich jolt]

No idea i wasnt paying attention

They rage quit when they got downed by a 15 mauler pack

[ornate hamlet]

I only saw the guy using smite once because the rest of the time he was dead

[karmic finch]

Because without a health curio the corruption you get is spooky

[wind spruce]

Plus the faster attack speed means you get a surprisingly close amount of crits in the same timeframe with warp flurry before even considering true aim

[ornate hamlet]

His last death was equally avoidable and he just typed "xd" in chat

I have no idea what bro was cooking, but I think I'd get salmonella from it

[karmic finch]

What was his build? Was it the legendary surge/smite/bubble?

[ornate hamlet]

I honestly have no idea

[rich jolt]

Honestly no shit

I think it was

[ornate hamlet]

I literally saw him smite once in the entire match

[rich jolt]

But we had two pyskers so i might be mixing it up

[ornate hamlet]

The rest he spent at the respawn points

If people complain about knife zealots overextending, they didn't see that guy yet

[potent echo]

Purple main

[rich jolt]

Huh?

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker floor tank builf

D

[potent echo]

Floor inspection specialist

[rich jolt]

Oh i follow ok

Yeah him and the ground were on first name basis

[wind spruce]

About to start the wandering inn

[hardy raft]

i dont think i ever used health on psyker, do you need one?

[wind spruce]

My brother keeps asking me if I've read it yet every time I see him and I noticed it on your profile description

[wind spruce]

Health is handy for surviving snipers, bursters and mauler overheads

[hardy raft]

it does?

[potent echo]

yea

200 hp lets you survive bursters

since bursters do 100damage

[wind spruce]

I was running 280 health on melee maelstrom today

And it actually felt so fucking good

I got hit by three bursters and survived iirc

Was unreal

[karmic finch]

Nice. The first volume is a bit rough, it gets really REALLY good, but bear that in mind

It's the first big writing project the author did and the difference between the start and even volume 2 is pretty big, by the time you get to like volume 6 it's exceptional, and at that point the word count is about as long as all of disk world

[wind spruce]

I will try and persevere. I listened to the first two chapters awhile back and it was a struggle, but knowing that it ramps up will help

[karmic finch]

Oh the audio book is even worse

[wind spruce]

The narrator isn't the best

[karmic finch]

Really makes Erin sound quite infantile, when she's like 20 at the start of the story.

[wind spruce]

Yeah, she comes off as having the wits of an 11 year old

Ah my brother just said it's available online for free

[karmic finch]

Wanderinginn.com

Maybe I should add that in my bio

[stable hare]

does surge work on left click also?

[hardy raft]

yes

meme trauma staff with surge nexuses exist

[stable hare]

oh thats huge then

thought for some reason it only worked for fully charged shots

[wind spruce]

Works on any level of charge!

[stable hare]

Im starting to love the psykers gameplay

[wind spruce]

Best class

[stable hare]

and all the staffs are super cool

[hardy raft]

smite

[hardy raft]

hoping fatshark adds another staff for psykers to use within a year

psykers starve content

[dark stag]

what perks should I put on it?

[stable hare]

carapace,maniac,unyielding,crit change,flak in that order i think, based on the guide from the pinned post

[upper sun]

id replace specialists with carap flak maniac what ever you like

[stable hare]

i think carapace and maniac covers the most big threats

[upper sun]

carap just helps you with crushers and maulers if you struggle with those sure

maniac same for ragers but that mostly fucks me up as zealot

[dark stag]

I'd take carap then

[rigid sky]

Can you oneshot a crusher without it?

And can you do it with it?

It might depend on your build but I keep going on about it for a reason

Which is that blowing up Crushers in a single cast is fun as fucj

K

[neon steppe]

I’m a flak fan myself. Most common armor type for enemies that matter.

[rigid sky]

Especially important for the other staves since they target bodies

Almost everything has a Flak body, heads are more varied

[dense crow]

Unarmored is better than flak

Almost all dregs are unarmored and a lot of scabs don’t use helmets

I usually only use flak for breakpoints on gunners or ragers

[upper galleon]

most unarmored units don't need the perk for BPs

[hardy raft]

dreg gunner screaming in corner

[hardy raft]

for the same reason some of the dregs wear flak helmets

well flak as in their makeshift armor but still counts as one

[near wyvern]

Only bruiser I think, gunner has flak body if I recall and the rest are completely unarmoured

[quartz barn]

for reference

[wide maple]

I'm wondering if anyone has crunched the numbers. When going for malleus monstrum is it better DPS to use the damage stim or speed stim?

[quartz barn]

probably dmg stim when combined with ep stacks

no clue how long speed stim lasts tho because i rarely use those

[marble crater]

I don't think anyone has done the math, because for one it's not particularly difficult and you only need to do it once

[wide maple]

Yeah it's not too difficult until that beast of neighbor decides it wants to leave and respawn elsewhere

[strong gulch]

The ability cooldown stim might an option if you have double wall, kinetic resonance, and EP.

[broken carbon]

there’s a clip of someone using two shields, a speed stim, and EP and they brain burst in like a quarter of a second

[wide maple]

Jesus Christ

I just want to do it without wasting time

[broken carbon]

find an ogryn with a shield

[wide maple]

And/or incorporate that knowledge into my normal build so it doesn't feel so shit against monstros

[tawny pebble]

we can hope

[proud mantle]

wait

surge works on the trauma explosion?

i thought it was only the bullets

[hollow current]

it dont

[upper sun]

nah it doesnt work on the aoe

same for sustained fire

what if surge also had surge so you could get two bolts on crit?!

[midnight jolt]

I'm back after months, I quit because I didn't want to continue on GamePass, got the game today on Steam super discounted, is the atheneum still the to go reference?

[upper sun]

yup

tbh you might wanna hold off on playing

late october were getting a crafting update

[midnight jolt]

or make it to Lv30 at least? 😂

[upper sun]

wellll

if you wanna prep for it

blessings earned count towards your mastery level of a weapon(how much you can modifiy it)

so just keep melkmaxxing

dont even need level 30 just keep doing weeklies and delete your char once they hit 30

[strong gulch]

If you want to play the game, then play.

[upper sun]

playing?

for fun?????

not with hadron on my ship

[midnight jolt]

Bro, I got the game today, should I not play? 😦

[marble crater]

Don't listen to this guy

[strong gulch]

Don't twist yourself trying to get the best gear tho. Unless that's your thing. 🥲

[rich jolt]

Play the game dont listen to the shark

Use new bolt pistol its fun

[upper sun]

I AM FATSHARK

[rich jolt]

You are skinny

Boney even

[upper sun]

i could eat u

[midnight jolt]

I had good gear, now I just have a new game, it took me one hour to re-remember everything, setup the mods, etc

[rich jolt]

No

I am poisonus

[upper sun]

even better

yummers 😋

[strong gulch]

That's what I say to monsters when I'm scared.

[rich jolt]

We shall both die then

[upper sun]

I have unironically said that to someone once seriously

dude half my height was trying to start shit with me

[tawny pebble]

very ogryn thing to say

you're puuuuny

[strong gulch]

true

[upper sun]

not ogryn enough

[patent steeple]

doesn't eating poisonous stuff usually stop being a problem if the poisoned food is cooked enough first?

[rich jolt]

IM HIGHER ON THE FOOD CHAIN THEN YOU

[tawny pebble]

CHEW YOU UP AND SPIT YOU OUT!

[upper sun]

police could eat me im not fighting some random dude

[rich jolt]

Not me

Im very nasty

An icky

[upper sun]

bro is made of poo poo

[tawny pebble]

depends on the toxin

[rich jolt]

[upper sun]

bro is a great unclean one

[patent steeple]

well, I was mostly referencing how cooking poisonous mushrooms works, since that was the only instance of cooking poisonous food that I can remember...

[rich jolt]

I am NOT a mushroom

[midnight jolt]

Good old times, now I have to do all over again because steam 😂 #psyker-class message

[upper sun]

😨

[strong gulch]

Pokeweed then. Boil it repeatedly.

[rich jolt]

I am not a weed either

[strong gulch]

Was assail a thing when you last played?

oh dang

[midnight jolt]

January, that's centuries ago

[strong gulch]

At least you're not standing in my backyard then. It's hot out there.

[rich jolt]

I cant wait for summer to be over

Dogshit season fr 💯

[strong gulch]

My memory is doo doo.

I forget when patch 13 hit.

October

[midnight jolt]

Come to Ireland so you can't wait for summer to come

[strong gulch]

Does it?

[midnight jolt]

ever come? for few days 😂

[patent steeple]

I mean, its generally kinda hot out here in Finland during summer (and very little snow during winter) nowadays, probably because of climate change/global warming/whatever the process of world getting warmer is called now...

[marble crater]

British seasons: gray and rain

[midnight jolt]

30~40 years cycles, then 300~400 years bigger cycles

[midnight jolt]

I can confirm, Ireland is the same

[patent steeple]

I actually saw a meme about some conversation of a British guy on the internet wondering why people go to warmer countries for summer to lounge on a beach, when Wales/British shorelines would be similar enough.

the comments on that meme mocked him for comparing Welsh/British beaches to the most well-known beach vacation places, and also mocked him for claiming that the experience would be almost identical.

[brazen rampart]

Summer bad. Winter good. (I have scandinavian genes before someone tries crucifying me, anything over like 68 F is torture to me)

[strong gulch]

Henlo. I am a fellow baby seal. Winter good.

[late sapphire]

Summer good because i can drink cold drinks and go mhhhhh aaaahhh and winter good because i can drink hot drinks and go aaaahhh mhhhhh

[true lake]

i prefer the fall

[lethal lagoon]

I prefer the cold winter weather to counteract my PC heating up my room.

[true lake]

chilly enough i can easily bundle up and bugs arent a nuisance, warm enough i can still have afternoons where i can just enjoy being outside

[lethal lagoon]

I also like hiking in the snow.

Though it's been snowing less and less every year

My snow plow guy is probably loving it though, get's paid the same price to plow my driveway like twice a year instead of dozens of times.

[analog agate]

As someone who just lost power because of Beryl… winter all the way

[lethal lagoon]

With how much worse storms are getting, they need to nix names like "Beryl"

[hearty oak]

You lose internet too cause of spectrum shitting the bed?

[analog agate]

I have comcast but yeah no internet. I think the spectrum thing is different because it seems like all of texas is having problems with it

Which makes sense because I think our hospital uses spectrum and we didn’t have it today at work

[lethal lagoon]

Comcast and Spectrum fighting for the title of perfect example of what happens when you allow companies to have a regional monopoly.

[upper sun]

bro has to pay 200 dollars for two sips of internet

actually if you wanna get your mind off it play bolt pistol youll get something bad to feel about

[lethal lagoon]

That's actually literally what I have to do, I have two lines.

well not $200, but it's a lot

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

its unironically tuned for heresy

[neon steppe]

What’s the explosion cutoff for assail? I had assumed it was 97% like bb but learned today that is not the case

[supple dock]

I believe BB is the only exception

[lethal lagoon]

Technically, you can keep holding the purg cast past 100%

[strong gulch]

I don't have the true peril mod, but I am able to throw shards at or above 97% in the meat grinder. That both shards. No EP.

What explodes me is that assail flies out quickly enough that when I try to stop throwing them at high peril, I end up clicking again and boom.

[lethal lagoon]

I'm fairly certain any behavior below 100% is fine.

BB if you start charging at 97 or lower, you can then cast at 100+%

Which is unique.

Unless you count purg, because you can keep holding the flame at 100% as long as it was released below.

[hearty oak]

Bolt pistols great wdym

[fiery wigeon]

is there somethin I'm missing with the lightning staff? the charge seems really restrictive in both charge time and peril gain for something that kills 2-3 grunts

[late sapphire]

It's not for killing grunts

[fiery wigeon]

it didn't seem to do enough damage to do more than that

[late sapphire]

Should be able to one tap specials & small elites

Depends on how shit your staff is, though

[fiery wigeon]

mm

my equipment is fairly shit but I'm also playing on malice

[late sapphire]

The idea of surge is in essence that the targeting assistance lets you pick off any sort of small elite or special within your 25m range no matter how chaotic the situation is

[fiery wigeon]

ic

[late sapphire]

left click spam is more effective against hordes & further away enemies, though

[fiery wigeon]

yeah the left click was pretty good

[late sapphire]

Your issue might be that you deal just a little bit too little damage on the lightning

[fiery wigeon]

mm

[late sapphire]

By the way, it hits one target and jumps once, and the second target only really gets staggered and takes almost no damage

[fiery wigeon]

I'll consider going for it again when i have funds to roll a bunch

[late sapphire]

You'll also want to supplement aoe damage with the soulblaze on elite kill & fire shriek perks

[fiery wigeon]

mm

yeah

def going for blaze shriek

is the perk that spreads fire when burning enemies are killed particularly good?

[late sapphire]

Wildfire is not impressive no

[buoyant maple]

Vent is 6 Soulblaze on everything at >83% peril (visual)

[fiery wigeon]

rip

[buoyant maple]

Wildfire is not very good most of the time

[late sapphire]

Perilous Combustion applies 3 stacks without cap to all enemies nearby

[buoyant maple]

Both vent and perilous combustion stack up to 31

Wildfire stacks up to 4 (if target has 4 or higher, does not get stack)

[fiery wigeon]

thats a few

ic

[late sapphire]

Stacks scale exponentially in damage

Perilous Combustion really shines in the highest difficulty

20 shotgunners round the corner, you kill 5 and the rest die by themselves

[buoyant maple]

Perilous is just dmg snowball

[fiery wigeon]

yeah there's not quite enough density in malice to make it feel good

[buoyant maple]

If ur teammates don’t instantly murder everything ur almost guaranteed to have an 8 feed at some point

[late sapphire]

Anyways, surge relies on supplementing damage from a bunch of sources to perform well

[buoyant maple]

It’s mainly for sniping specials & applying soulblaze

[late sapphire]

With warp battery and perfect timing and a good roll and flakiak and warp rider you end up being barely able to one shot whatever you need to

[buoyant maple]

Without soulblaze talents, surge is quite underwhelming

[late sapphire]

And then the blaze takes care of the rest

[fiery wigeon]

from what i hear, "soulblaze talents" = perilous combustion lol

[buoyant maple]

Surge also might (?) be the best staff for EP smite if ur into that

[late sapphire]

The only thing you end up struggling against is hordes and crusher/bruiser groups because hordes cant apply soulblaze and ogryns are too meaty

[fiery wigeon]

EP?

[buoyant maple]

It’s usually perilous combustion + venting shriek

[late sapphire]

enhanced psionics

[restive ice]

epic penetration

[buoyant maple]

Empower psyonics (middle keystone)

[fiery wigeon]

ah

[late sapphire]

The node that makes smite actually do something

[fiery wigeon]

yeah that one looks cool

[buoyant maple]

It’s apparently really broken with venting shriek, I haven’t tried it tho

[fiery wigeon]

LOL

[fiery wigeon]

no damage * 3 still equals 0

[buoyant maple]

No, EP smite + soulblaze kill basically everything that’s not a crusher

While keeping them stunlocked

[fiery wigeon]

venting shriek feels like its pretty solidly the best ability of the 3

[late sapphire]

If there's enough little elites around the crusher even it will melt

scriers gaze is good too, on gunker

shield is kind of meh all in all, it's a bit of a crutch

Not like cover isn't already a thing

[fiery wigeon]

stun shield seems pretty good

bubble shield is not great

[buoyant maple]

All psyker abilities are good it just depends on what ur preference is

[late sapphire]

Only rarely do i see a shield wall player who actually lines em up properly

[fiery wigeon]

heh

[late sapphire]

I'm a bit addicted to the cycle of spend charges to shriek, kill elites via shriek, get warp charges

[fiery wigeon]

I'm planning on going that route

even just the +24% damage and -36% peril gain passively seems really good

[buoyant maple]

It is really good

[fiery wigeon]

EP assail looks like a really funny meme build

[buoyant maple]

But DD is kind of broken rn

[late sapphire]

I've found that i prefer the toughness on charge over peril reduction

[fiery wigeon]

mm

[late sapphire]

The constant regen is pretty good and lets me keep blasting more than a peril reduction might

[fiery wigeon]

both are good

[buoyant maple]

If the toughness regen worked like veteran’s confirmed kill it might be BiS

[fiery wigeon]

can the toughness regen still trigger if you have max stacks?

[buoyant maple]

Yes

[fiery wigeon]

oh dope

[buoyant maple]

U get 6% toughness per second, lasting 5s

Every successive elite/specialist kill extends that

But it’s always 6%/s

[late sapphire]

If only...

[buoyant maple]

Whereas veteran’s confirmed kill works as individual stacks (no stack cap)

You can have 6 CK stacks active at the same time and that’s 12%/s

[upper sun]

bolt pistol has "heresy ahh breakpoints"

[fiery wigeon]

doesnt bolt pistol have some really bad recoil problems too

[upper sun]

theyre not problems theyre by design lmao

[buoyant maple]

The imperium of man knows no recoil

[upper sun]

tbh they need to shorten the ads time

buff its finesse damage or somthin

[late sapphire]

bolt pistol ads sucks and it's off more often than not in my experience

[upper sun]

and make the push attack shoot combo work better

and itll be alright

[late sapphire]

shots i know would have hit with a revolver and up missing completely

[upper sun]

yeah they need to do something with aiming down

and going special attack into shooting the target you push is REALLY in consistant

[buoyant maple]

The issue is the ADS sway

Sway kicks in immediately as u ADS and it’s quite a bit of sway compared to other guns

[upper sun]

did you try it on vet or psyker or both?

[buoyant maple]

I tried the new weapons day 1 and updated my WIP guide

[upper sun]

idk its kinda shit on psyker imo

[buoyant maple]

I’m not putting in “high ads sway” for boltpistol in guide tho

[upper sun]

cant one tap gunners without some buffs

[buoyant maple]

Cuz boltpistol is basically a Deadshot gun

And deadshot reduces recoil/sway so I don’t feel like mentioning it

[upper sun]

yeah

[buoyant maple]

Boltpistol without deadshot is just missing its oomph

[upper sun]

yeah

[restive ice]

haey

[upper sun]

its really tuned for heresy

[buoyant maple]

But also I didn’t enjoy boltpistol that much

Maybe my aim just sucks

[upper sun]

my aim sucks and i can aim it better than revolver

[buoyant maple]

Maybe it’s because I’m used to actually good hipfire cuz I mainly play plasma/laspistol on vet

[upper sun]

i think you're just not used to it

[buoyant maple]

[upper sun]

it just feels like its doing slightly less damage than it should for me

[buoyant maple]

The 4 bleed stacks matter

[upper sun]

maybe if it had flak4 bleed 4

[buoyant maple]

Non-linear DOT scaling moment

[upper sun]

man

being that BP reliant is kinda disgusting

uhhh this weapon NEEDS flak 4 bleed 4 to FUNCTION

[buoyant maple]

Psyker main discovers veteran’s min-max process

[upper sun]

how about i just dont bother

[lethal lagoon]

Vet's just PP

And get ASS easy.

[fringe garden]

Gunker is the true Veteran class.

[hardy raft]

this would be a cool display to have as a mod

your current gun on left side of the

psycharium

[wind spruce]

Flak is a much higher priority than the guide would suggest, particularly if you are running creeping flames

[wind spruce]

Pretty sure you need some warp charges or DD stacks to hit that break point

I was hitting it with four warp charges, flak and puncture 4

[cosmic sigil]

run n'gun works well

[wind spruce]

DD works quite well for hitting most of the breakpoints

But, yeah, that's why pygex recommends running warp charges and holding onto max charges for the majority of the mission

But @upper sun how often are you going to have ZERO buffs AND the enemy doesn't even get tickled by warpfire, an assail throw or your teammates

That gunner is dying 99% of the time from a headshot from your exact bolt pistol

[cosmic sigil]

when you're solo clutching and there's a bunch of ragers and some crushers

[wind spruce]

You switch to using your duelling sword and assail haha

[cosmic sigil]

i am glad i had the boltgun this morning

ah, i was on zealot

[long wharf]

the sad thing about the bolt pistol is that it does nothing better than the zarona revolver

[cosmic sigil]

you can stagger the ennemies you would have killed

[wind spruce]

It reloads better, which honestly is a pretty huge deal

But not enough of a deal

[cosmic sigil]

on zealot, i use it to enable scourge and on vet it works well with deadshot, suppression immunity and focus targets

i haven't used it on psyker yet, bur rn i think the db shotgun is in a better state

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker testing is a bit scuffed because of warp charges and DD

DD specially

I do get the drive to hit breakpoints without damage buffs, but ideally they're constantly present on psyker

[viscid heath]

Okay back again, what yinz think of what I'm running so far? I been in auric maelstrom and I am super squishy. I gotta really watch my positioning but hot damn can I lock down a horde or groups of whatever