#psyker-class

1 messages · Page 1339 of 1

upper galleon
#

and my curio main stats are 2x toughness, 1x hp

stable silo
#

is soulstealer good on trrauma blaze?

potent echo
#

definitely

hardy raft
#

really funny how assail just stumps on low enemy count

spice veldt
#

by default, the number has some visual interpolation to make the number go down smoothly
I think it only applies when you're quelling peril
this is because you quell in discrete amounts in 250ms ticks in reality, and TruePeril will remove the interpolation

hardy raft
#

and then smite stumps on high enemy count

upper galleon
#

EP assail used to do a smaller tier shit of what smite does now

potent echo
#

dont swap to void staff vs monstros KEKW_ogryn

#

melee pls 🙏

upper galleon
#

you'd get EP feedback loops of shards

stable silo
#

this okay for trauma build ?

potent echo
#

thats perfectly fine

upper galleon
hardy raft
#

kek

stable silo
#

i kind of want the faster brain bursts on ult use but i dont know what to drop

upper galleon
#

or battle mediation

#

tbh

#

both those are really good talents

stable silo
#

i dont know what points to change haha just a few more and i would be happy

potent echo
#

meh i dont like battle mediation on anything other than EP smite

#

messes with your venting

languid pasture
#

bro no wonder im popping trauma staff death zone is like 90 and im thinking its like brain burst

potent echo
#

you can also drop toughness gain on quelling but everyone seems to love that talent

spice veldt
#

the fourth one is the lightning one

languid pasture
#

charging a RMB at 91 kills you

potent echo
#

if you press lmb at 100% you explode

#

simple

fresh reef
#

bruh wtf is this 😭

potent echo
#

when you start charging is mostly irrelevant

spice veldt
potent echo
languid pasture
potent echo
fresh reef
#

world's smallest dueling sword

languid pasture
#

if you charge at 90+ you pop

hardy raft
potent echo
#

no only pop if you press lmb

spice veldt
#

oh do you mean beginning your charge at 90+?

potent echo
#

you can hold RMB indefinitely

spice veldt
#

well yeah

#

if you finish your cast at 100%

#

then you're gonna explode

#

brainburst is the exception to the rule, not the normal pattern

hardy raft
#

pruga moment

stone totem
#

If you start BR with lmb it doesn't matter if the charge goes to 100% before it casts

languid pasture
#

ok so for RMB what matters is it can't be 100% BEFORE you let go?

stone totem
#

Which you should almost always not use RMB

spice veldt
#

yeah

potent echo
#

yes as long as you dont let go at 100% you are fine

spice veldt
#

press LMB at anything below 100% and you're good to go

pine brook
#

How many stuffs psyker have?
I remember 3, Flame, blast zone and powered bolt.

spice veldt
stone totem
#

Staves can charge at 90+ as long as you cast before 100%

#

Risky though

languid pasture
#

should i be like edging 80%?

spice veldt
languid pasture
#

i know i get more crit at higher peril

stone totem
languid pasture
#

damn i've been doing this all wrong on trauma i thought it worked like BB

stone totem
#

Nomanus my beloved

potent echo
stone totem
#

Also true

potent echo
#

and also if you have flurry up etc etc

#

ideally you go to practice in the psykanium to find your staff's edge peril%

pine brook
potent echo
#

but 80% is around there

languid pasture
#

looks like my charge generates just under 21% on RMB

#

so 79?

potent echo
#

yea to be safe maybe 75%

stone totem
#

But it's like never worth unless you gotta hit a far off sniper or something

languid pasture
#

wow ive just been ripping it high peril lol

potent echo
#

if you are using true peril mod it will be easier to judge

languid pasture
#

can't believe i didn't explode even more

#

maybe im not full charging it and should be?

potent echo
#

full charge is more consistent at killing trash mobs and damaging elites

#

sometimes if im using a blaze trauma and im at like 70% i will stack 2 half charges instead of 1 full charge etc

languid pasture
#

yeah im running blaze trauma

#

seems okay

#

it's supposed to be like top tho i think?

fresh reef
#

no blaze trauma is really bad

#

needs a buff

potent echo
#

its the psyker injoke

pine brook
#

Does flame stuff apply soul blaze and can crit?

fresh reef
#

yes and yes

pine brook
#

Nice.

potent echo
#

flame staff perfectly balanced

#

never touched since public beta

pine brook
hardy raft
#

tbh its kinda bad when everyone takes your kills

#

but what aint

fresh reef
#

just kill harder fivehead

#

normally when my team is doing well I just relegate myself to staggering ragers with surge lol

hardy raft
#

idk

#

it feels shit when that happens

spice veldt
#

infinite cleave weapon when the game's difficulty increase comes from enemy spam 😔

hardy raft
#

mostly cause it has flurry and blaze doesnt

#

but i agree on blaze trauma having the most scalable staff build it has

spice veldt
#

the enlightened blazing spirit + rending shockwave staff

#

which I do run unironically because I play assail + ds4 mainly

upper sun
upper sun
potent echo
#

true aim blazing spirit chadgryn

#

i played that for a few rounds, felt like playing a gimped build

upper sun
#

Uhhh hold on 🤓 please let me melee 5 targets mr crusher ill be right with you

spice veldt
#

i don't wait for true aim stacks for crushers

#

i only care about blazing spirit when a horde is around and whatnot

upper sun
#

you're kinda proving my point here

spice veldt
#

whatchu mean

upper sun
#

you being a nerd KEKW_ogryn

spice veldt
#

i don't think me being a nerd is a new thing though

#

not by a longshot

#

it's not optimal but i also dislike using trauma as a main weapon

#

i'm just continuing on my build from pre-patch 13 but with the newfound degeneracy of assail

upper sun
#

Oh my god i did

potent echo
#

i find trauma more boring than smite whatthefuck_heresy

upper sun
#

This is peak deimos

#

KNEEL

spice veldt
#

they're of the same category of brainrot, but at least trauma i can limit my usage a bit more

potent echo
#

🧎‍♂️

tulip tangle
#

As a veteran who tried force sword for the first time today, 🧎
That felt good I'll give you that psykers

potent echo
#

imagine forcesword, but 2-handed? one day fatshark, one day

upper sun
#

imagine a force dagger

#

all the knife mobility with warp fuckery

potent echo
#

melee assail

upper sun
#

real

tulip tangle
#

Psyker seems a bit too, fussy
I feel like my keyboard is gonna be piano if I try that class

potent echo
#

if a psyker throws an assail but ties it to himself does he go flying

haughty star
#

Yoooo

haughty star
upper sun
#

equiping it is just a short animation of you making it chadgryn

#

brainburst does lower damage at 100% peril

#

what the fuck

#

no nvm i was getting random ep charges

#

but yeah killing an elite at 100% wont kill you now i know

round gull
#

What curiosities do you recommend for smite surge build?

#

I was fighting alone against a Nurgle ogryn and I couldn't damage it besides when I was using Deimos

#

And each time it charged to me I got tons of damage

haughty star
#

Surge should be very good at bossing

#

Well

#

Very mid

#

But a good kinda mid

round gull
#

Not sure

#

Maybe I was doing something wrong tho

haughty star
#

What's your surge look like?

#

And build

round gull
haughty star
#

Like post a screenshot of your surges placard

round gull
#

Ohhhh

#

Let me check it and send

stiff falcon
#

@shrewd dagger all of those enemies? Dead due to smite

#

All internal maps are just jokes with smite

upper galleon
#

alright i'm about to check y'all witches

#

why tf scrier's purge staff

#

if you want peril reduction go Warp charges

#

don't dare say crit

#

i've done the hard math

fresh reef
upper galleon
#

it's 1 additional stack on crit

#

i know for a fact, 5% crit chance gets you to max stack 2-3% quicker, so 20% would be about 10-12% quicker?

fresh reef
#

higher crit rate also means higher damage on the m2, I guess

upper galleon
#

nah

#

cvause the m2 impact damage is nothing

#

and has like no finesse

#

it has some of the worst finesse in the game

upper galleon
#

and 30% damage is, something i guess? if you can juggle peril long enough, but it's not something that would make or break me

#

even with -20% peril reduction

fresh reef
#

I'm not arguing that it's good, mind

#

just trying to think of justifications for it

upper galleon
#

yea

#

idk i've seen it around and it baffles me

#

so i want to take it down

fresh reef
#

also, holy gardening tool

#

I think this is my best dueling sword yet

near wyvern
#

Herecy

quick python
#

Bro about to harvest his ranarrs

near wyvern
#

Trying out giving the attack strings in a table format instead of in text for Atheneum (currently done Combat Blade and Shock Maul). Any feedback on the readability of it is welcome. Symbol explanations are in the Abbreviations.

broken carbon
#

what

near wyvern
broken carbon
#

i dont know how to fix that

#

tbh

#

but

#

yah

near wyvern
#

Alright, I will figure it out one way or the other. The symbols are confusing?

broken carbon
#

yeah

#

i think its just because of how short they are?

#

if the symbols were mor like

#

hmmm

#

trying to think

#

bleh

near wyvern
#

Images?

#

With colour coding

broken carbon
#

maybe? id have 2 see how it looks

near wyvern
#

Like if I would make one line into an image with Gimp and sorta try to use colour coded symbols

#

Right, will probs give it a try on Tuesday

broken carbon
#

i think for me personally, its almost like trying to read those fighting game combo codes

marble crater
#

You want feedback on this?

near wyvern
broken carbon
broken carbon
#

its also entirely possible im just stupid

#

so that also plays a role lol

round coyote
broken carbon
#

unfortunately not that i know of

near wyvern
round coyote
#

Darn

broken carbon
#

psyker n ogryn are the two that have the super in depth guides

round coyote
#

That’s sick

marble crater
round coyote
#

Oh okay bet sweet

near wyvern
#

@marble crater any opinions on the new attack string tables? Something good something bad?

#

Readability etc.

marble crater
near wyvern
#

Yeah that's why I started to figure out a way to condense the information cause you can just imagine the size of text explaining those attack strings 😅

broken carbon
#

for shock maul it could just be

#

S, (H L) 5 times

#

instead of having it all out like that

#

but at that point i think we're turning darktide into math class

near wyvern
#

Maybe if I do a [H L]x2 tag? That would mean do that twice? But then we start to get into cryptography real quick?

#

Yeah...

broken carbon
#

the struggles of graphical design

near wyvern
#

I guess I will experiment with images on Gimp cause adding in colour will help with the readability of the symbols for sure

broken carbon
#

agreed

marble crater
#

Or just add a (looping) KEKW_ogryn

#

99% of players will simply mess up at some point and need to start over again

near wyvern
#

Yeah and the end tag is perhaps useless cause once you start looping you are never going to stop (until the situation changes)

marble crater
#

And maybe separate the light other strings and heavy other strings from the simple combos under a "advanced combos" headline or something like that?

#

So newer players don't feel like they need to learn all of those combos right away

broken carbon
#

that is a good idea

#

have ur basic combos in one tab

#

n then ur "super optimized" combos

#

in a second tab

#

tab/table

#

something like that

near wyvern
#

Ooh I just tested, one can use emojis in steam guides

broken carbon
near wyvern
#

I'll probably experiment with using emojis for the symbols since they are much easier to read in the guide editor and I can then do edits on mobile as well if needed

marble crater
#

Guide with emotes pogryn

near wyvern
scarlet timber
#

man there is no way

marble crater
#

Now that is pod racing

scarlet timber
#

no way this game isnt biased

#

toward psyker with iotems

marble crater
#

It's not, you are just bad at crafting staregryn

scarlet timber
#

HOW DID I GET THIS

#

ON MY PSYKER

#

AS A EMEPORS GIFT THEN???

marble crater
#

Because you didn't craft it, it was a gift KEKW_ogryn

scarlet timber
#

you knoiw how long i been trying to craft this on my zealot?

haughty star
#

3 better tho

scarlet timber
#

specially with surgicla

marble crater
scarlet timber
haughty star
marble crater
#

Technically correct

scarlet timber
#

not on this one

#

headhunter is way beter on the other marks

#

this fucker only got 22 ammo in the chember

#

you want surgical

#

and deadly accurate

haughty star
#

That's why I said on 3 lol. 3 is more versatile for zealot. 7 is only really based for vet

scarlet timber
#

except muty

#

on zealot man

haughty star
#

Yee you use the 3 cuz it's got bossing potential and basically does that as well

scarlet timber
#

it just deonst have the same zoom as others

#

so people dont use it

#

and higher recoil

#

but same ammo mount as vrak3 for higher damage

near wyvern
scarlet timber
#

cuz you know

#

it be on same level

#

as ogrynomicon XD

haughty star
#

Might be kind of a shit take but 7 would not be awful on a gunker

#

But every gun good on gunker basically KEKW_ogryn

analog agate
marble crater
near wyvern
near wyvern
marble crater
#

Yeah, so pictures it is. Thank you in advance for your hard work salute

near wyvern
scarlet timber
#

Btw guys is running carapce and unyielding good

#

On deimos?

near wyvern
#

If you only use it to kill crushers, ogryns and monstrosities why not

#

It's just that if you have a good enough Deimos and put +maniac on it, you can one shot Mutants with the regular H2 on Deimos without any additional buffs.

#

A Deimos that is not optimal roll can also do it with +special +maniac, you can see the breakpoints in Atheneum

#

And a guaranteed one shot on a mutant is a guaranteed "you shall not pass" if you know what I mean. Combine that with trauma and you can control the space (and time???) around you

marble crater
#

And time, by killing everything fast and completing the mission quicker staregryn

fresh reef
marble crater
#

You are really not allowed to cook anymore

broken carbon
#

@near wyvern

#

if u look at path's veteran guide

#

the way he has the combo's typed it is really good imo

#

i can dm his most updated version of the guide 2 you if youd like

marble crater
broken carbon
#

955

upper sun
#

his name is clearly numbers you are mistaken

strong thicket
#

So I just discovered duelling swords stagger charging muties KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
#

is it a he anyways or is it a robot?

strong thicket
#

Actually they stagger anything but bosses

brazen rampart
strong thicket
#

Funny factor

marble crater
#

Valid

lethal lagoon
#

True and Real

#

You are so valid for that

upper galleon
#

🤔

#

damn it

#

whattheforecast got it first

restive ice
#

what the sigma

upper sun
#

why stagger a man before ledging him off the bridge?

plucky flax
#

Strange I can't 1 shot mutie with my ds4 and maniac perk.

#

You must be really good.

restive ice
upper sun
#

cant believe the first descendant launched with a working crafting system a working battle pass system and a working penance system

#

they really cooked in korea maybe workers rights were a mistake after all

plucky flax
#

But is it pay to win?

analog agate
#

Yes it is. Also, at least for the hours I played… it is soooooo easy. And you can’t make it harder

upper sun
#

pay to skip a bunch of time look pretty and get more inventory space

analog agate
upper sun
#

maybe stop using bunny

lethal lagoon
analog agate
#

I don’t know who bunny is

upper sun
#

the litearl worst thing in the game

upper sun
lethal lagoon
#

No one get's my jokes, my intellect is clearly too l33t

marble crater
upper sun
#

i cant tell you what the crafting does or needs to but i get more numbers

analog agate
#

Same with lost ark. Skip skip skip cause your story sucks and idgaf

upper sun
#

bunny is cancer

lethal lagoon
#

I was making a joke about the 2b cosmetic for bunny costing $100 being "hard" mode.

upper sun
#

imagine if psyker had momentum

lethal lagoon
marble crater
#

They definitely know how to make money with a free to play game

strong thicket
lethal lagoon
strong thicket
#

Too many mutants ledged me

#

They're not going down painlessly

#

(Btw I joke, I just find it funny that toothpick sword staggers any non boss ai in the game)

fresh reef
#

any gun psyker tips?

strong thicket
marble crater
#

Someone should call the mods

#

We need a psyker mod for cases like this

buoyant maple
restive ice
#

exactly what a robot would say

quartz barn
#

i thought most ais were anime girls?

orchid shadow
#

I just saw an Xbox user using a mod? Xbox mods are a thing now or did I miss something?

lethal lagoon
#

Are you sure it was xbox and not gamepass

orchid shadow
#

Oh, maybe? I'm not up on the difference, I just saw an Xbox symbol.

#

That would explain it.

lethal lagoon
#

I mean there are ways to mod on any console, but I just find it hard to believe someone did it for this game.

#

It is probably possible though.

marble crater
#

Xbox symbol is also pc gamepass, what was the mod? staregryn

upper sun
#

what do we think?

#

took me 400k

strong gulch
#

It's good. Now for the scary part.

upper sun
#

say the line siblings

narrow herald
#

warp charge for soulflame has to be you to dop the final hit?

marble crater
bold cape
#

thanks for making me extremely confused as to why i got pinged in psyker chat lmao

narrow herald
#

im confused, does this mean I have to kill the target or can my allies also proc it?

late sapphire
#

You kill

narrow herald
#

hmm

late sapphire
#

The other one is almost always better

narrow herald
#

even with purge?

supple dock
#

In my personal experience it's not a bad pick, the 4% chance is nice but the soulblaze one with creeping flames means you get a lot of stacks really quickly in bursts

#

So they about even out

#

with creeping flames ofc

narrow herald
#

im doing a barrier build atm because I do like using the Enervating threshold to choke out narrow areas from diablers

#

it's pretty fun, because the purge staff is actually a very good CC tool

#

like this, I don't think u need to see the top half

strong gulch
#

Could be a BB build if you do EP and faster BBs on ability cast talent.

#

Also Melk... no.

narrow herald
strong gulch
marble crater
narrow herald
#

Yes I know the vent purge build with BB

marble crater
#

That's actually insulting

strong gulch
#

Not vent

#

I prefer vent to

#

tho

narrow herald
#

No I'm not taking shield with no warp charge I would rather just take vent

#

I'm not waiting 30 seconds to walk forward 2 inches 😔

lethal lagoon
supple dock
supple dock
#

wait wtf is that the same staff

lethal lagoon
#

Almost, that's why I posted it

#

It's the great melk consipracy to suppress surge staff users.

marble crater
strong gulch
lethal lagoon
narrow herald
#

😔

strong gulch
#

Kinda odd feeling. The 2 psykers got the most boss damage.

marble crater
lethal lagoon
strong gulch
lethal lagoon
#

That sounds like me.

eager token
#

one day i will get 1m damage Sitgryn

misty terrace
#

What would you guys change out on this?

#

I was thinking of making Shred max level

#

But I'm not sure if swapping out carapace for something like flak would be better

stiff falcon
#

Uncanny riposte

eager token
#

shred -> riposte

long wharf
#

if an enemy dies while having soulblaze on it that you applied, you get the proc

#

and if the code for that ability hasn't changed since the talent tree rework, you don't even have to have applied soulblaze yourself

#

just having that node active means you'll get the proc whether you applied the soulblaze or not

supple dock
#

oh shit

#

tooltips ftw amirite

supple dock
strong gulch
supple dock
#

I was close, but that's a minute detail

long wharf
#

well, it's not minute at all

supple dock
#

okay maybe not too minute

#

whatevs

#

I was looking over it and was like

#

ehhhh

#

i guess not too small

strong gulch
#

Though I heard it might have changed.

I haven't tested it for multiple patches tho. The "it's different now" might be missinfo/ misunderstanding.

strong gulch
#

The tooltip really doesn't help.

supple dock
#

did you really just 'uhm ahcktually' me with the same information I already gave?

long wharf
#

nope, read more carefully

supple dock
#

So if anything on fire dies to anything, you get the proc

#

is what you're saying?

long wharf
#

yep

rich spindle
#

My only 1m damage game was the most intense carry of all time

eager token
#

i dont want it

#

i need it

rich spindle
#

Youll never want to do it again

stiff falcon
#

Run a melee only

#

If you don’t get a million damage you are playing wrong

proud mantle
#

mannnn

potent echo
#

On the bright side Deimos doesn't really need perks to be great KEKW_ogryn

#

Still one shots elites properly

wind spruce
supple dock
#

neat. now have correct information to share

lyric moth
#

Does smite critically hit?

strong gulch
#

no

cursive marsh
#

Hmmmm

#

Before I stopped playing, assail was the top build. What's good these days?

jovial juniper
#

EP smite blaze shriek

#

Aka

cursive marsh
#

which staff? I only have a purg staff currently leveled up

analog agate
#

Trauma>surge>void>purg imo. But if you aren’t playing on auric stuff it doesn’t really matter what staff they will all be good

grand abyss
#

Purgatus staff is weird. When combined with venting shriek it can really put the hurt on anything, but elites take a few ticks to kill

upper galleon
#

surge is just

#

it's good single target dps

#

but void is just on another level with it's cleave and stagger

#

and interactions

split lance
#

which is better to eat

fresh reef
split lance
#

ty

ornate hamlet
#

Y'know, I'm thinking

#

Which already shows a lot of danger

#

Anyway, what's the point of the Mk5 within the dueling sword archetype?

#

Mk2 is a bit slept on and still has one poke heavy alongside what I believe might be faster lights than the Mk4 and 5

supple dock
#

5 has better dodge

ornate hamlet
#

But Mk5 has genuinely horrible finesse on the heavies compared to the poke, and it's a very vertical slash

#

I guess there's that one, but... man, dueling swords already got funny dodges

supple dock
#

More distance and speed, overtakes daggers I believe

ornate hamlet
#

I take it what the game defines as speed is simply the amount of time in which you cover your dodge distance?

supple dock
#

Strike down is also technically easier to aim

ornate hamlet
#

It's an interesting stat, at least

#

Means you can make your dodge animation last less, which in turn allows another dodge sooner

#

It makes me wonder if it makes any dodge-related timer last less, like some kind of iframe or idfk

#

But probably not to a noticeable degree anyway

lethal lagoon
supple dock
#

ah, fair enough

ornate hamlet
#

But doesn't covering the same distance faster means you end it sooner?

lethal lagoon
#

It's not the same distance

ornate hamlet
#

So dodge speed is dodge distance?

supple dock
#

isn't it both

#

This is a LITTLE obscure so forgive me if I gave wrong information

ornate hamlet
#

The slightest bit obscure

lethal lagoon
ornate hamlet
#

sigma dodgemaxing mewset

lethal lagoon
ornate hamlet
#

But don't we have a dodge distance stat too?

lethal lagoon
#

That's the stat

supple dock
#

its its own stat

#

It's not a "main" stat though

#

It's always tacked on to like mobility, defense, speed

lethal lagoon
#

Just inspect the mobility stat.

#

I don't know what's being cooked, but we need some ventilation.

supple dock
#

lmao, just the mechanics of dodge speed and distance stuff

ornate hamlet
#

Wait, I thought I had seen dodge speed somewhere as a stat

supple dock
#

you have, but never as one of the main stats

spice veldt
#

yeah there's dodge speed and dodge distance

ornate hamlet
#

Oh no, I was mistaking it for Mk5 having two instances of dodge distance

#

Or maybe not

#

Fatshark

spice veldt
#

mk5's dodge do happen over a shorter period of time than mk4/mk2's dodges

ornate hamlet
#

I remember testing cleave damage all the way in the past

spice veldt
lethal lagoon
#

Well I'll be

spice veldt
#

though that could be me testing with a 60% mobility mk4/2

ornate hamlet
#

And found out that the Mk5 had roughly the same cleave damage as Mk4 around 7...5?%

spice veldt
#

since you practically never run an 80% mob mk4

ornate hamlet
#

So essentially the Mk5 had an automatic good roll on the cleave stat that the other two swords had

#

And to this day I don't understand the point of it

lethal lagoon
#

Yeah, the mk5 doesn't do a lot of stabbing, I don't get the point either.

spice veldt
#

they just balanced the mk4 and mk2's heavies weirdly

ornate hamlet
#

I wouldn't mind if it didn't look like this

spice veldt
#

quite whack that they buffed the mk2's h1 instead of nerfing the mk4's heavies

ornate hamlet
#

compared to this

#

Actually look at the fucking audacity of this sword's stat sheet

#

And as it turns out, the L3 follows the 1.62x

spice veldt
#

ah damnit it turns out that mobility does affect the dodge duration

#

80% mobility mk4 has the same dodge speed as mk5, at least on efficient dodges

#

no wait i lied again

#

i used the mk2 against the mk4

#

yeah mk5 has a dodge speed edge even with both the mk4/2 and mk5 at 80% mobility

ornate hamlet
#

zased tester

spice veldt
#

in a world where dodge distance and blocking (and stamina) was more important, there would be a bit more nuance to mk5's advantages (and if the damage difference wasn't this vast between mk4/2 and mk5 heavies)

#

though mk5 will inevitably still fall behind in damage even if it was "properly" balanced because of the mobility/defense edge it has

supple dock
#

basically use it as a more stylish knife

hardy raft
thorny dove
#

I'm new to psyker, and I'm finding it hard to get past how squishy they are. What should I be keeping in mind, suvival wise, as a psyker?

spice veldt
#

if you don't have your dodge and jump keybinds split into different keys, that'd be my first step

#

since that allows you to spam dodges and take your brain off timing your dodges to avoid being punished into a jump

potent echo
#

You can't afford to get tagged in melee at all, so general melee prowess, situational awareness and using your strong tools often to prevent situations from becoming worse

spice veldt
#

you can make build decisions like taking trauma or smite for maximum degenerate safety
take assail for for consistent distance-agnostic toughness regen on human chaff w/ certain toughness talents taken
etc.

lethal lagoon
#

Be first in front, and be aggressive, learn with trial by fire.

spice veldt
#

we don't have any crazy DR or survivability talents like the other classes so it does get a bit rough
but, otherwise, dodges are a bit unbalanced in this game and they'll get you through a lot

lethal lagoon
#

Make sure you are using dodge slide while quelling.

spice veldt
#

you have the typical i-frames against ranged attacks, and you have pseudo i-frames against melee attacks (basically, there's an extra distance check where you'll still get nicked by a melee attack if you're too close. But, if you're some distance away, dodges will functionally give i-frames against melee attacks. This is most prominently experienced with Crushers or Maulers, whose attacks notoriously have a very short dodge catch)

lethal lagoon
#

Dodge slide for ranged fire as well.

#

And just for general distance while dodging

potent echo
#

Just watch some old jsat psyker gameplay, should be more or less relevant

supple dock
#

It's super super super easy to panic when your toughness breaks, try to keep your cool and find the next target to generate toughness if you run a build that can

thorny dove
#

The notion of being taken down in one or two hits, in a game that's mostly melee focused seems ridiculous. I'm clearly not suited to play psyker. My hat off to you guys who play it regularly.

spice veldt
#

psyker is the one class to play if you don't want to interact with melee at all

thorny dove
lethal lagoon
#

Yeah, melee focused is a strange term for this game when like 95% of the playerbase in aurics are dogshit at melee.

spice veldt
#

i guess yeah you can't quite hittrade like the other classes can

lethal lagoon
#

And not like an "elitist" dogshit, but just a general dogshit.

#

So I wouldn't worry about it, you just kinda learn to be squishy.

spice veldt
#

esp since we don't have any nice "warp melees" to properly synergize with the talents that we have (illisi has too much warp downtime for my liking)

thorny dove
supple dock
#

It's a very much sink or swim scenario because this will highlight your weaknesses

lethal lagoon
#

While that's a part of it, it doesn't change my statement much.

#

Use dodge and dodge-slide as much as possible, play more aggressive so you learn faster and also aren't at the back getting pounded Sussy

#

Block is a 360 move, and it's good to run Kinetic Deflection as an early psyker.

#

So get used to using it.

#

Crushers and Bosses will test your Soulslike skills.

potent echo
#

Or if you love being the rear then just take over the rearguard, which all pub teams desperately need

thorny dove
#

I'll keep working at it. I was playing around with the purge/BB/empowered psy and I enjoyed that. I'm trying out a smite build right now and it's punishing me.

potent echo
#

The moment I go front in any horde pubs just die

lethal lagoon
#

I assume you aren't running smite with shield.

#

You better not be.

thorny dove
thorny dove
lethal lagoon
#

Easily most braindead build in the game:
EP smite with creeping flames shriek.

#

You get an EP stack, use EP smite till 85%, shriek, keep holding smite.

#

Most things die.

#

I don't actually recommend this for learning psyker cause you probably won't learn much. But if you are thinking of quitting the class it might help.

upper galleon
#

scales as difficulty increase

#

it's actually silly how much better EP smite flame shriek gets

#

as you get into hyperdense aurics

lethal lagoon
#

And if we are talking survivability, what's your gear looking like?

thorny dove
#

I'll keep playing around with it, but it felt like I was slapping around with a wet noodle

lethal lagoon
#

Cause if things around you die, you don't.

#

It will kill a rager in 8 seconds. Which seems a bit long. But it will also kill 100 ragers in 8 seconds.

upper galleon
#

here is a quick partial build

#

without EP smite kinda shit

#

it's just CC

#

and without soulblaze, you don't get any damage at all

#

make sure to build up high amounts of peril before venting

#

venting area, strength, and (the extra node) stacks of blaze, all scale with your peril when casted

lethal lagoon
#

Not "high amounts" more than 83.3%, or 85% for ease of use.

#

That's when you get max stacks

#

For creeping flames

upper galleon
#

yea but you need to do the penance anyways eventually

#

the one to vent as you are about to blow up 🙂

#

i am joking

lethal lagoon
#

This isn't class, you aren't arguing for an extra point on your homework

upper galleon
#

ok antiedger

#

can't beleive you don't respect my lifestyle of edgemaxxing

lethal lagoon
#

Everyone knows you can't get more than 4 edge stacks anyways. Going for 5 is just beta.

#

God, there's never any real sigmas in this chat.

#

Going go hit up my gyatt instead

upper galleon
#

sigma orion male

#

you're a beta male sonic

thorny dove
upper galleon
#

the radical left and speedrunning

potent echo
#

I'm not pro anything

#

I'm anti-life, and anti-choice

hardy raft
#

lacerate knife psyker

upper galleon
#

I’m anti anti

#

I’m viciously pro and i shall enforce pro behavior without mercy

potent echo
#

Anti anti is pro pro loregryn

upper galleon
#

Poro poro

supple dock
upper sun
#

prefix isnt redacted but its removed for server rules

#

bro kept texting in game about hating women and tried to solo two DHs first got killed because i helped second one he tried to solo he died to

#

this shit was so funny why is it always the people that talk shit the most that end up eating it the most?

spice veldt
#

ogryn racism lives on

#

i had a pleasant meeting with an ogryn named uncle ruckus, and you can probably guess how they acted

#

(they were not as funny as uncle ruckus)

potent echo
#

Crimson capsule ogryns uwugryn

tired estuary
#

gg @austere crest

#

I had to play the entire end event at 15fps b/c of that hot new memory leak

ornate hamlet
#

New? chadgryn

tired estuary
#

idk usually it explodes and crashes the game instead of making me play thru a slideshow

#

didn't matter tho b/c ogryn stronk

potent echo
#

Who is this skuldie that everyone is tagging KEKW_ogryn

austere crest
#

ITS been so choppy lately

#

they keep spawning random elites like right at the shoulder XD

tired estuary
#

good thing I don't need to see to mash pickaxe pushattack into heavies

austere crest
#

my thinking: corner clear, ill traverse that way, oh a groaner, pew pew, ok here i go, oh 4 ragers and a lag spike suddenly mid attack inside me, hi, thanks forleaving a mark, i have to explain this to my coworkers on Monday and it will bne so awkward

tired estuary
#

shame they fixed that killbox with the last hotfix

stiff falcon
#

It’s actually simple with a knife or a ds4

hardy raft
#

where would you guys rate smite currently

#

EP smite in particular

stiff falcon
#

Top 4 builds

#

Tied with blaze trauma

#

Can’t decide if it’s better than voc plasma or weapon specialist psword

#

Void strike 5th, just for existing

lyric burrow
#

Yeah id rate it pretty highly turning the game off is p good

stiff falcon
#

Same issue as blaze trauma, stuns everything kills everything

lyric burrow
#

I might put void above it cause void is more self sufficient and lacks weakness other than maybe boss damage

#

But smite is quite strong

#

For not great reasons

hardy raft
#

anyway uh any videos

potent echo
#

Blaze trauma still gets decent boss damage if you roll with a Deimos/Obs or DS4

hardy raft
#

i like the argument brought up is flamers or pruga when "killing 100 poxxers in 4 seconds"

#

kek

potent echo
#

Infinite cleave is unbeatable

stiff falcon
#

Flamer didn’t a buff

hardy raft
#

its innate in tide games ye

#

flamer didnt need a buff

#

but idk if it actualyl did much to it

stiff falcon
#

Purg scriers is mega busted if you are good

hardy raft
#

but i dont like that buff

potent echo
#

I barely feel any buff from using it yesterday lmao

hardy raft
lyric burrow
#

Infinite cleave is very busted

stiff falcon
#

Ran into one in a pub who did 1.4m damage

lyric burrow
#

Oh yeah if he was using uncanny it gets gross

hardy raft
#

does uncanny flamer still work kek

#

i guess i dont see a reason why

lyric burrow
#

Yeah afaik

#

Works with SB and immo nades

hardy raft
#

immo does jack shit on crushers so idk

potent echo
#

Yea it still does, knife/flamer zealot can still try to be a budget fotf flamer

#

But SB also lasts much longer than burning iirc

stiff falcon
hardy raft
#

ah right

stiff falcon
#

Literally the only reason why I have immo builds

hardy raft
#

immo is a good dog denial tool yea

scarlet timber
#

is this good?

brazen rampart
#

Ideally you'd want precog over slaughterer, but that is by no means a bad sword.

strong gulch
#

If you are using it as a general weapon, slaughter is quite good. If you are using it specifically for single target weak spot hits, then other choices can be better.

Kinda depends on how deimos is going to be used.

brazen rampart
#

Not really. The power boost doesn't hold a candle to the finesse damage boost that precog can give you.

#

You're looking at like... 40% damage with t4 slaughterer at max stacks?

#

Precog beats that out of the water.

#

And, considering the nature of psyker, you're going to be dealing an unholy amount of finesse damage to begin with.

#

Sure, slaughterer is going to help more on the stray bodyshot, but you don't want to be aiming for their body to begin with.

#

I'm still going to stick with my original statement regardless of how I feel about that roll and say it's a very solid sword, though.

marble crater
#

What if I don't want to deal with all of that KEKW_ogryn

brazen rampart
#

Then use what you want?

#

I can't decide your loadout for you.

#

Hell, if you want to run shred and blazing spirit illisi, I can't stop you.

quartz barn
#

Blaze illisi buff inc tho

brazen rampart
#

I would prefer blazing spirit to also apply soulblaze on empowered hits.

hardy raft
brazen rampart
#

That's not an illisi.

#

It's a deimos.

hardy raft
#

deimos can see hordes with l2so

#

its fine

#

not the best but i wouldnt put precog there

#

deflector n stuff

brazen rampart
#

Deflector is a neat blessing and honestly I'm a deflector stan as well, but I will keep my opinion that precog is better than slaughterer for the deimos model.

haughty star
#

I feel like glory hunter is a good deimos blessing

wind spruce
#

It's extremely uncommon to put precog anywhere near the top of the list for deimos

#

Even on duelling swords it's becoming more widely understood to be a garbage blessing

brazen rampart
#

"It has absolutely garbage uptime" just dodge another attack?

#

Who cares if it only lasts 3 seconds if you're dodging just as often?

wind spruce
#

It's 2s.

#

And there is often not an attack to dodge

#

Riposte has 3x the duration and still has uptime issues

brazen rampart
#

I want whatever lobbies you're in where there aren't attacks to dodge.

#

That just straight up means nothing is attacking you in melee.

wind spruce
#

I want you to join us in reality where things get staggered and there are other teammates being targeted

#

This has been tested over and over and over and over again. Precognition does NOT provide sufficient uptime to justify taking it over riposte, let alone other blessings where you have more agency in proccing them

brazen rampart
#

👍

#

Good for you.

wind spruce
#

Precognition barely even does more damage than riposte.

wind spruce
brazen rampart
#

No.

wind spruce
#

Thought so.

brazen rampart
#

I don't have to provide anything to you.

wind spruce
#

I know.

brazen rampart
#

Especially considering you're being extremely rude.

wind spruce
#

Misinformation irritates me

brazen rampart
#

It isn't misinformation, but go off, I guess.

#

If you're in a position where you're fighting in melee, you're in a position to be taking advantage of precognition.

wind spruce
#

Calling precognition the ideal second blessing for deimos is most certainly misinfo

#

It's like 6th or 7th on the list

brazen rampart
#

With how often psykers have to dodge, they will be making extreme value from it, and the deimos sword has the ideal moveset to take the greatest advantage of precog's finesse bonus.

#

If you're going to pull the card of "well enemies get staggered and your teammates are also fighting," let me raise you this.

wind spruce
brazen rampart
#

Pull out your staff or gun if you have no reason to use your sword.

wind spruce
#

I didn't say there was no reason to use melee

#

There's simply better, more reliable blessings.

#

For instance the other dodge blessing with 3x the duration

brazen rampart
#

Riposte?

quartz barn
#

For me both riposte and precog dont proc all the time 😦

brazen rampart
#

That's just crit chance, which means it now falls to preference over consistency and the skill of the player using precog, or to chance with just having a higher crit chance.

quartz barn
#

Dodge slide messes with the trigger

wind spruce
#

Even the 6s one has uptime issues

wind spruce
quartz barn
#

So i just run dmg up blessings instead

wind spruce
quartz barn
#

Ye but you dont really dodge slide vs shooters

brazen rampart
#

Well, I don't think dodge slides are really intended by fatshark, so it's not exactly a surprise that they don't count for precog or riposte.

wind spruce
quartz barn
#

Unless its for increased strafing

upper sun
quartz barn
#

I personally just sprint vs shooters

brazen rampart
#

And yes, you do dodge slide vs shooters. Makes cover more easily accessible and you can close distance easier without getting shot.

wind spruce
quartz barn
#

Fair enough

wind spruce
#

But you can guess which one isn't going to be active by the time you close

quartz barn
#

I stopped sliding gunners because sometimes if you get caught by a scab gunner you just get instakilled

wind spruce
quartz barn
brazen rampart
#

Really, they need to rework gunner stagger.

#

Makes no sense that they can pin you in one spot when your toughness cracks.

upper sun
#

remove all player stagger and slows

haughty star
#

Precog is very good vs crushers

potent echo
#

a cursory test on plagryn of precog vs shred vs riposte is

haughty star
#

Which is the only area the ds4 struggles

potent echo
#

theres not much diff lol

#

arco did a test long ago

upper sun
#

tbh i feel like the finesse damage one is more reliable

potent echo
#

just pick your favourite flavour of damage blessing + uncanny

upper sun
#

shred is best chadgryn

haughty star
#

Gross

potent echo
#

shred works against boss if it isnt focused on you

upper sun
#

shred helps with clear and does what the other two do

potent echo
#

so is w

wind spruce
#

Shred is underrated af on deimos, and probably on DS too

potent echo
#

helps with clear if they decide to count your dodge

wind spruce
#

But I use attacks for mobility on DS mid fight

#

So shred goes in the bin

potent echo
#

doesnt take that long to build 🤷‍♂️ but its a small difference at the end of the day

#

its not as good vs mutants but mutants vs ds4 lol

#

poke hewad

wind spruce
# haughty star Precog is very good vs crushers

The issue is still one of uptime. If you're facing a pack of crushers solo, yeah, it'll be up the whole time, but if you have teammates with you you're likely to get 1 hit off with it up and then things are staggered or not aggroed on you

upper sun
#

people assume shred is only for crushers/armor but it helps a bunch with clear since you lmb spam

potent echo
#

i bring unstable power on deimos because it gives you oneshot on mutants at like 40% peril or smth

haughty star
wind spruce
#

And as gui points out, the numbers have been run, and precognition only JUST out damages riposte with full uptime. If you add disrupt destiny, riposte actually adds more damage

upper sun
potent echo
#

i am carapace unyielding deidei

haughty star
#

What about glory hunter or whatever the blessing for elite kills is

#

That could be Hella bonkers on deimos

upper sun
#

we dont do that here

potent echo
#

lmao

#

that thing that i dont even know the name of

wind spruce
upper sun
#

toughness on elite kill

#

its a vet thing

#

its crap imo

#

since vet has 200 toughness+shout

potent echo
#

deimos has a talent that gives like

#

10% power on elite kill

#

stacks 3 time

wind spruce
#

Especially with voidstrike where I need boss damage (and I'm not giving up carapace)

potent echo
#

but no one runs it ever

upper sun
#

its ass

potent echo
#

by the time you killed 3 elites its already over

#

with melee

upper sun
#

id rather take executor over superiority

wind spruce
#

Superiority

potent echo
#

yea executor

wind spruce
potent echo
#

you get 4 stacks from 1 light activation

haughty star
#

Superiority

potent echo
#

easy power

wind spruce
upper sun
#

Superiority? MORE LIKE

#

INFERIORITY XDDDD

haughty star
#

12.5 percent power on elite kill for 7 seconds deteriorating one at a time

upper sun
#

GET IT?!!?!?! BECAUSE ITS SO BAD

potent echo
#

supooriohiorizz

wind spruce
#

XXXDDDDDDD

haughty star
#

For deimos specifically it might not be bad idk

potent echo
#

it doesnt work on blitz or ranged

#

i rather have unstable that just works

wind spruce
#

The issue with Superiority is that it does nothing when elites aren't around

#

Which is actually a lot of the time

potent echo
#

esp vs bosses

wind spruce
#

All stacks gone in 21s is quicker than one realises

potent echo
#

what elites you gonna run at before you start hitting the boss lol

wind spruce
#

Shred uncanny gang

#

Get at it

potent echo
#

shred deez

wind spruce
potent echo
#

mm

wind spruce
#

Kekw

#

( ❤️ )

haughty star
#

On gunker I'd just use the gun lol on any other build I'd just use the staff w/bosses. Idk with the 7 second one at a time decay it's at least a pretty much guaranteed 25 percent power increase on any auric situation you'd need it and deimos is not good at proccing unstable

#

Deffo probably a more sound pick than unstable anyway. Shred I could see being a better pick tho

potent echo
#

bussying

wind spruce
haughty star
#

True

wind spruce
#

They do shit unyielding, so I poke in face with DS

haughty star
#

I usually rock surge so I'm a Lil biased. Thing doesn't have great boss damage but it is there lol

potent echo
#

dont bring unstable on gunker staregryn

wind spruce
#

Superiority is bonkers on melee maelstrom

potent echo
#

bonkers like

#

30% power

#

it isnt that far away from slaughterer or unstable

haughty star
wind spruce
wind spruce
potent echo
#

perhaps

#

but making a weapon just for one game mode 💰

haughty star
#

Deimos isn't capable of feeding on ad kills as easy as illisi with illisi slaughterer is a no brainer but deimos is deffo a different beast

wind spruce
#

Imagine not having played so much psyker you don't have most weapons available in every iteration whatthefuck_heresy

upper sun
#

so tru so tru

#

I have everything except a crit+flak purge and a MINT godrolled surge

wind spruce
#

Particularly for duelling swords I've rolled up so many with basically perfect base stats that I can have any iteration of blessing/perk

#

And yet I can't fucking get a blaze trauma with all four upgrades

upper sun
#

i have been not been super lucky with ds4s

wind spruce
#

I'm stuck with flak/maniac like a peasant

upper sun
#

i do have a good blaze trauma with bricked base begging for the rework

marble crater
#

Blaze Trauma is bad anyway unimpressed

potent echo
wind spruce
upper sun
#

tru

potent echo
#

show me your rending blaze trauma

upper sun
#

pick something

wind spruce
potent echo
#

show me your rending blaze trauma

marble crater
#

They are removing locks, all our bases are saved

upper sun
#

ask arc

potent echo
#

the arco special

upper sun
#

i dont do that meme

wind spruce
potent echo
#

all our base is going in the trash!

marble crater
wind spruce
#

380?! Pathetic.

upper sun
#

nah

#

maybe theyll push it to 400

potent echo
#

500 new highest base rating

wind spruce
#

(They are actually increasing it, btw)

potent echo
#

100 100 100 100 100

wind spruce
#

400 minimum

upper sun
#

but at this point i have bricked 380s of everything

lunar hollow
#

theyll put it at 399 to piss you off

potent echo
#

399 but with decimals

upper sun
#

oh nooo what will i do without 20+ moblity on my deimos

#

:(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

wind spruce
#

#stillright

upper sun
potent echo
#

how is 80 80 80 80 80 different from 100 100 100 100 100

upper sun
#

more everything

potent echo
#

yes

wind spruce
#

Seems marginal to me

marble crater
wind spruce
#

20% isn't much for most stats

potent echo
#

20% more damage on sauls pogryn

marble crater
#

Sorry, 20 20 20 20 20 different

wind spruce
#

They can just buff enemy health by 5% to offset it

potent echo
#

crafting update but also we are shifting the goalpost

marble crater
#

20% more quell speed though staregryn

upper sun
#

someone pick a psyker weapon i have a good to great weapon+ several bricked bases of it

wind spruce
#

Gotta combat that power creep

upper sun
#

ok

potent echo
#

trauma for the copium trauma mk2

upper sun
#

edge this loser

wind spruce
#

100% trauma radius

#

And charge rate

#

It's a whole 0.3s off

#

Now THAT is game changing.

potent echo
#

critical bonus on any weapon

#

20% probably adds another 5% crit chance

wind spruce
#

I dunno for surge

upper sun
#

4% for surge

potent echo
#

3% taxes pogryn

wind spruce
austere crest
#

i think the e key on my keyboard is too sensitive, whenever im reading discord i rest my finger slightly, and start typing eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee everytime.

jovial juniper
#

So, is it?

haughty star
wind spruce
#

I want

haughty star
#

Worst part is

#

I found it like this lol

#

In requis

quartz barn
#

Rip blaze 3, already bricked Sitgryn

haughty star
#

Am ded

wind spruce
#

F

marble crater
#

Yes the vet guide is accurate staregryn

late sapphire
#

walked some dogs through (normal) scab melee mael

#

sometimes i wish i could disable matchmaking with xbox players...

quartz barn
#

Idk why these people even try

late sapphire
#

the psyker was a lasgunker btw

paper harbor
#

Total Psyker death

fresh reef
upper sun
#

hug every psyker kiss every psyker make hot coco for every psyker

narrow herald
late sapphire
#

after that fiasko and some internet issues i am now apparently in true solo mode

#

no bots no nothing

upper sun
#

r u sure you didnt do that urself?

late sapphire
#

connected into a normal game, dced, hit rejoin and now i'm here

#

now it's spawned in two bots