#psyker-class
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is soulstealer good on trrauma blaze?
definitely
really funny how assail just stumps on low enemy count
by default, the number has some visual interpolation to make the number go down smoothly
I think it only applies when you're quelling peril
this is because you quell in discrete amounts in 250ms ticks in reality, and TruePeril will remove the interpolation
and then smite stumps on high enemy count
EP assail used to do a smaller tier shit of what smite does now
you'd get EP feedback loops of shards
this okay for trauma build ?
thats perfectly fine
i wouldn't skip EE
gues you can still do that if thers enough elites around
kek
i kind of want the faster brain bursts on ult use but i dont know what to drop
wildfire
i dont know what points to change haha just a few more and i would be happy
meh i dont like battle mediation on anything other than EP smite
messes with your venting
bro no wonder im popping trauma staff death zone is like 90 and im thinking its like brain burst
you can also drop toughness gain on quelling but everyone seems to love that talent
the fourth one is the lightning one
nah it's anything below 100%
charging a RMB at 91 kills you
bruh wtf is this 😭
when you start charging is mostly irrelevant
pretty sweet switchblade
gunsword
wdym
world's smallest dueling sword
im talking about spamming RMB on trauma
if you charge at 90+ you pop
you can rightclick with BB and hit at 100% to safely kill p sure
no only pop if you press lmb
oh do you mean beginning your charge at 90+?
you can hold RMB indefinitely
well yeah
if you finish your cast at 100%
then you're gonna explode
brainburst is the exception to the rule, not the normal pattern
If you start BR with lmb it doesn't matter if the charge goes to 100% before it casts
ok so for RMB what matters is it can't be 100% BEFORE you let go?
Which you should almost always not use RMB
yeah
yes as long as you dont let go at 100% you are fine
press LMB at anything below 100% and you're good to go
How many stuffs psyker have?
I remember 3, Flame, blast zone and powered bolt.
should i be like edging 80%?
i know i get more crit at higher peril
That'll help maximize the crit and damage talents for when you're higher in peril so yeah
damn i've been doing this all wrong on trauma i thought it worked like BB
Nomanus my beloved
depends on your staff because warp resist stats
Also true
and also if you have flurry up etc etc
ideally you go to practice in the psykanium to find your staff's edge peril%
All stuffs main attack is bolt?
but 80% is around there
yea to be safe maybe 75%
All staves except for purgatus just do a bolt yeah
But it's like never worth unless you gotta hit a far off sniper or something
wow ive just been ripping it high peril lol
if you are using true peril mod it will be easier to judge
can't believe i didn't explode even more
maybe im not full charging it and should be?
full charge is more consistent at killing trash mobs and damaging elites
sometimes if im using a blaze trauma and im at like 70% i will stack 2 half charges instead of 1 full charge etc
but funny surge!!!!!
yeah im running blaze trauma
seems okay
it's supposed to be like top tho i think?
its the psyker injoke
Does flame stuff apply soul blaze and can crit?
yes and yes
Nice.

just kill harder fivehead
normally when my team is doing well I just relegate myself to staggering ragers with surge lol
infinite cleave weapon when the game's difficulty increase comes from enemy spam 😔
even in auric where the local vet just snipes every elite he finds on sight it kinda gets worse than rending imho
mostly cause it has flurry and blaze doesnt
but i agree on blaze trauma having the most scalable staff build it has
the enlightened blazing spirit + rending shockwave staff
which I do run unironically because I play assail + ds4 mainly
bruh
do you also wear a fedora with that build?
true aim blazing spirit 
i played that for a few rounds, felt like playing a gimped build
Uhhh hold on 🤓 please let me melee 5 targets mr crusher ill be right with you
i don't wait for true aim stacks for crushers
i only care about blazing spirit when a horde is around and whatnot
you're kinda proving my point here
whatchu mean
you being a nerd 
i don't think me being a nerd is a new thing though
not by a longshot
it's not optimal but i also dislike using trauma as a main weapon
i'm just continuing on my build from pre-patch 13 but with the newfound degeneracy of assail
Oh my god i did
i find trauma more boring than smite 
they're of the same category of brainrot, but at least trauma i can limit my usage a bit more
🧎♂️
As a veteran who tried force sword for the first time today, 🧎
That felt good I'll give you that psykers
imagine forcesword, but 2-handed? one day
, one day
melee assail
real
Psyker seems a bit too, fussy
I feel like my keyboard is gonna be piano if I try that class
if a psyker throws an assail but ties it to himself does he go flying
Yoooo
Imagine this but it's just like a wrist collar and you make a dagger from the warp like assail

equiping it is just a short animation of you making it 
brainburst does lower damage at 100% peril
what the fuck
no nvm i was getting random ep charges
but yeah killing an elite at 100% wont kill you now i know
What curiosities do you recommend for smite surge build?
I was fighting alone against a Nurgle ogryn and I couldn't damage it besides when I was using Deimos
And each time it charged to me I got tons of damage
Wdym?
Like post a screenshot of your surges placard
@shrewd dagger all of those enemies? Dead due to smite
All internal maps are just jokes with smite
alright i'm about to check y'all witches
why tf scrier's purge staff
if you want peril reduction go Warp charges
don't dare say crit
i've done the hard math
crit
it's 1 additional stack on crit
i know for a fact, 5% crit chance gets you to max stack 2-3% quicker, so 20% would be about 10-12% quicker?
higher crit rate also means higher damage on the m2, I guess
nah
cvause the m2 impact damage is nothing
and has like no finesse
it has some of the worst finesse in the game
above
and 30% damage is, something i guess? if you can juggle peril long enough, but it's not something that would make or break me
even with -20% peril reduction
Herecy
Bro about to harvest his ranarrs
Trying out giving the attack strings in a table format instead of in text for Atheneum (currently done Combat Blade and Shock Maul). Any feedback on the readability of it is welcome. Symbol explanations are in the Abbreviations.
what
where is it
its better to have it in the table but it is kind of difficult to understand readability wise
i dont know how to fix that
tbh
but
yah
Alright, I will figure it out one way or the other. The symbols are confusing?
yeah
i think its just because of how short they are?
if the symbols were mor like
hmmm
trying to think
bleh
maybe? id have 2 see how it looks
Like if I would make one line into an image with Gimp and sorta try to use colour coded symbols
Right, will probs give it a try on Tuesday
i think for me personally, its almost like trying to read those fighting game combo codes
You want feedback on this?
Yes
and for someone newer it could be very hard to understand
its also entirely possible im just stupid
so that also plays a role lol
Oh, is there one of these for vet? I know this isn’t the vet chat but worth the ask
unfortunately not that i know of
No idea, I only do the guide for Psykers. If I would do them all I would need someone to pay for my bills 😅
Darn
OH you made it
psyker n ogryn are the two that have the super in depth guides
That’s sick
There is a vet guide in their channel pinned as well
Oh okay bet sweet
@marble crater any opinions on the new attack string tables? Something good something bad?
Readability etc.
I'm still thinking, I understand them for the most part, shock maul in particular does look very intimidating at a first glance though
Yeah that's why I started to figure out a way to condense the information cause you can just imagine the size of text explaining those attack strings 😅
for shock maul it could just be
S, (H L) 5 times
instead of having it all out like that
but at that point i think we're turning darktide into math class
Maybe if I do a [H L]x2 tag? That would mean do that twice? But then we start to get into cryptography real quick?
Yeah...
the struggles of graphical design
I guess I will experiment with images on Gimp cause adding in colour will help with the readability of the symbols for sure
agreed
Or just add a (looping) 
99% of players will simply mess up at some point and need to start over again
Yeah and the end tag is perhaps useless cause once you start looping you are never going to stop (until the situation changes)
And maybe separate the light other strings and heavy other strings from the simple combos under a "advanced combos" headline or something like that?
So newer players don't feel like they need to learn all of those combos right away
that is a good idea
have ur basic combos in one tab
n then ur "super optimized" combos
in a second tab
tab/table
something like that
Ooh I just tested, one can use emojis in steam guides

I'll probably experiment with using emojis for the symbols since they are much easier to read in the guide editor and I can then do edits on mobile as well if needed
Guide with emotes 
man there is no way
Now that is pod racing
It's not, you are just bad at crafting 
Because you didn't craft it, it was a gift 
you knoiw how long i been trying to craft this on my zealot?
At least 2 days 
6 months
Headhunter and deadly accurate on 3 more better
Technically correct
nope
not on this one
headhunter is way beter on the other marks
this fucker only got 22 ammo in the chember
you want surgical
and deadly accurate
That's why I said on 3 lol. 3 is more versatile for zealot. 7 is only really based for vet
it still one taps all specials
except muty
on zealot man
Yee you use the 3 cuz it's got bossing potential and basically does that as well
aggrpinaa HH is also underrated
it just deonst have the same zoom as others
so people dont use it
and higher recoil
but same ammo mount as vrak3 for higher damage
Yeah ok I tried, I gotta do images with Gimp, there are not enough suitable emojis it just becomes cryptography
can you rename your guide to psykernomicon?
cuz you know
it be on same level
as ogrynomicon XD
Might be kind of a shit take but 7 would not be awful on a gunker
But every gun good on gunker basically 
No. Each class having their own thing is way cooler

You likely only have to do it once at least, not like the combos will change frequently. Still more work of course
No. Atheneum means a building or a room where you keep all your reading, like books and newspapers and that sorta stuff. And my guide has a looooot of reading.
Yup but readability over anything else. If you have information that is not in a format where it can be conveyed easily, what good does it do then? The only purpose for information is to be understood and used.
Yeah, so pictures it is. Thank you in advance for your hard work 
If you only use it to kill crushers, ogryns and monstrosities why not
It's just that if you have a good enough Deimos and put +maniac on it, you can one shot Mutants with the regular H2 on Deimos without any additional buffs.
A Deimos that is not optimal roll can also do it with +special +maniac, you can see the breakpoints in Atheneum
And a guaranteed one shot on a mutant is a guaranteed "you shall not pass" if you know what I mean. Combine that with trauma and you can control the space (and time???) around you
And time, by killing everything fast and completing the mission quicker 
spoon
You are really not allowed to cook anymore
@near wyvern
if u look at path's veteran guide
the way he has the combo's typed it is really good imo
i can dm his most updated version of the guide 2 you if youd like
I thought his name was just 'numbers' 
955
his name is clearly numbers you are mistaken
So I just discovered duelling swords stagger charging muties 
is it a he anyways or is it a robot?
That's kinda busted
Actually they stagger anything but bosses
Why bother staggering them when you can just dish out a free lobotomy and kill them outright?
Valid
why stagger when mk4 oneshots them
🤔
damn it
whattheforecast got it first
what the sigma
why stagger a man before ledging him off the bridge?
to give more time to admire the gyatt
cant believe the first descendant launched with a working crafting system a working battle pass system and a working penance system
they really cooked in korea maybe workers rights were a mistake after all
But is it pay to win?
Yes it is. Also, at least for the hours I played… it is soooooo easy. And you can’t make it harder
pay to skip a bunch of time look pretty and get more inventory space
did you get to hard mode yet?
No, because it is so easy I would rather be playing something else than waste my time to maybe get to a point where I like it more
maybe stop using bunny
I heard hard mode costs $100 and you have play a certain character.
I don’t know who bunny is
the litearl worst thing in the game
i have no idea whats happening 90% of the time
The one with the curves
i cant tell you what the crafting does or needs to but i get more numbers
Same with lost ark. Skip skip skip cause your story sucks and idgaf
bunny is cancer
I was making a joke about the 2b cosmetic for bunny costing $100 being "hard" mode.
imagine if psyker had momentum


They definitely know how to make money with a free to play game
I want them to have time to watch me in the eyes while a stick the point of my sword through their eyebrows


Too many mutants ledged me
They're not going down painlessly
(Btw I joke, I just find it funny that toothpick sword staggers any non boss ai in the game)
any gun psyker tips?
An exorcism might be due
Am a guy yes 
exactly what a robot would say
i thought most ais were anime girls?
I just saw an Xbox user using a mod? Xbox mods are a thing now or did I miss something?
Are you sure it was xbox and not gamepass
Oh, maybe? I'm not up on the difference, I just saw an Xbox symbol.
That would explain it.
I mean there are ways to mod on any console, but I just find it hard to believe someone did it for this game.
It is probably possible though.
Xbox symbol is also pc gamepass, what was the mod? 
It's good. Now for the scary part.
say the line siblings
warp charge for soulflame has to be you to dop the final hit?
Update will fix it 
thanks for making me extremely confused as to why i got pinged in psyker chat lmao
Your welcome :))
im confused, does this mean I have to kill the target or can my allies also proc it?
You kill
hmm
The other one is almost always better
even with purge?
If YOU kill the enemy who has ANYONE'S soulblaze, YOU get the charge
In my personal experience it's not a bad pick, the 4% chance is nice but the soulblaze one with creeping flames means you get a lot of stacks really quickly in bursts
So they about even out
with creeping flames ofc
im doing a barrier build atm because I do like using the Enervating threshold to choke out narrow areas from diablers
it's pretty fun, because the purge staff is actually a very good CC tool
like this, I don't think u need to see the top half
Could be a BB build if you do EP and faster BBs on ability cast talent.
Also Melk... no.
Would love to, but shield builds usually get crippled without warp charges 😔
It's THE BB build. Take purg.

Yes I know the vent purge build with BB
That's actually insulting
No I'm not taking shield with no warp charge I would rather just take vent
I'm not waiting 30 seconds to walk forward 2 inches 😔
tbh the second half is so straightforward all the mistakes I see are in the middle to top halves
Almost, that's why I posted it

It's the great melk consipracy to suppress surge staff users.


Wow. Melk is double listing this staff because it's so bad.

not much to see on the top half
😔
Kinda odd feeling. The 2 psykers got the most boss damage.
I thought you were making a joke about suppressing surge staff users, because they both have terrifying barrage 


That sounds like me.
one day i will get 1m damage 
What would you guys change out on this?
I was thinking of making Shred max level
But I'm not sure if swapping out carapace for something like flak would be better
Uncanny riposte
shred -> riposte
incorrect
if an enemy dies while having soulblaze on it that you applied, you get the proc
and if the code for that ability hasn't changed since the talent tree rework, you don't even have to have applied soulblaze yourself
just having that node active means you'll get the proc whether you applied the soulblaze or not
o7 tyty
This was true post talent tree rework.
I was close, but that's a minute detail
well, it's not minute at all
okay maybe not too minute
whatevs
I was looking over it and was like
ehhhh
i guess not too small
Though I heard it might have changed.
I haven't tested it for multiple patches tho. The "it's different now" might be missinfo/ misunderstanding.
wait isn't this what I said?
The tooltip really doesn't help.
that would be this, no?
did you really just 'uhm ahcktually' me with the same information I already gave?
nope, read more carefully
yep
You dont want it
My only 1m damage game was the most intense carry of all time
Youll never want to do it again
mannnn
On the bright side Deimos doesn't really need perks to be great 
Still one shots elites properly
This is correct
neat. now have correct information to share
Does smite critically hit?
no
which staff? I only have a purg staff currently leveled up
Trauma>surge>void>purg imo. But if you aren’t playing on auric stuff it doesn’t really matter what staff they will all be good
Purgatus staff is weird. When combined with venting shriek it can really put the hurt on anything, but elites take a few ticks to kill
void=trauma>surge>purge
surge is just
it's good single target dps
but void is just on another level with it's cleave and stagger
and interactions
Gun Psyker with columns
which is better to eat
Definitely precog
ty
Y'know, I'm thinking
Which already shows a lot of danger
Anyway, what's the point of the Mk5 within the dueling sword archetype?
Mk2 is a bit slept on and still has one poke heavy alongside what I believe might be faster lights than the Mk4 and 5
5 has better dodge
But Mk5 has genuinely horrible finesse on the heavies compared to the poke, and it's a very vertical slash
I guess there's that one, but... man, dueling swords already got funny dodges
More distance and speed, overtakes daggers I believe

I take it what the game defines as speed is simply the amount of time in which you cover your dodge distance?
Strike down is also technically easier to aim
Yes
It's an interesting stat, at least
Means you can make your dodge animation last less, which in turn allows another dodge sooner
It makes me wonder if it makes any dodge-related timer last less, like some kind of iframe or idfk
But probably not to a noticeable degree anyway
Overtakes no stamina daggers
ah, fair enough
Err no.
But doesn't covering the same distance faster means you end it sooner?
It's not the same distance
So dodge speed is dodge distance?
The slightest bit obscure
I would imagine.
sigma dodgemaxing mewset

But don't we have a dodge distance stat too?
That's the stat
its its own stat
It's not a "main" stat though
It's always tacked on to like mobility, defense, speed
Just inspect the mobility stat.
I don't know what's being cooked, but we need some ventilation.
lmao, just the mechanics of dodge speed and distance stuff
Wait, I thought I had seen dodge speed somewhere as a stat
you have, but never as one of the main stats
yeah there's dodge speed and dodge distance
Oh no, I was mistaking it for Mk5 having two instances of dodge distance
Or maybe not
Fatshark
mk5's dodge do happen over a shorter period of time than mk4/mk2's dodges
I remember testing cleave damage all the way in the past
though that could be me testing with a 60% mobility mk4/2
And found out that the Mk5 had roughly the same cleave damage as Mk4 around 7...5?%
since you practically never run an 80% mob mk4
So essentially the Mk5 had an automatic good roll on the cleave stat that the other two swords had
And to this day I don't understand the point of it
Yeah, the mk5 doesn't do a lot of stabbing, I don't get the point either.
they just balanced the mk4 and mk2's heavies weirdly
I wouldn't mind if it didn't look like this
quite whack that they buffed the mk2's h1 instead of nerfing the mk4's heavies
compared to this
Actually look at the fucking audacity of this sword's stat sheet
And as it turns out, the L3 follows the 1.62x
ah damnit it turns out that mobility does affect the dodge duration
80% mobility mk4 has the same dodge speed as mk5, at least on efficient dodges
no wait i lied again
i used the mk2 against the mk4
yeah mk5 has a dodge speed edge even with both the mk4/2 and mk5 at 80% mobility
zased tester
in a world where dodge distance and blocking (and stamina) was more important, there would be a bit more nuance to mk5's advantages (and if the damage difference wasn't this vast between mk4/2 and mk5 heavies)
though mk5 will inevitably still fall behind in damage even if it was "properly" balanced because of the mobility/defense edge it has
basically use it as a more stylish knife
just give it to zealot and i will use it until its pryd from my cold hands
I'm new to psyker, and I'm finding it hard to get past how squishy they are. What should I be keeping in mind, suvival wise, as a psyker?
if you don't have your dodge and jump keybinds split into different keys, that'd be my first step
since that allows you to spam dodges and take your brain off timing your dodges to avoid being punished into a jump
You can't afford to get tagged in melee at all, so general melee prowess, situational awareness and using your strong tools often to prevent situations from becoming worse
you can make build decisions like taking trauma or smite for maximum degenerate safety
take assail for for consistent distance-agnostic toughness regen on human chaff w/ certain toughness talents taken
etc.
we don't have any crazy DR or survivability talents like the other classes so it does get a bit rough
but, otherwise, dodges are a bit unbalanced in this game and they'll get you through a lot
Make sure you are using dodge slide while quelling.
you have the typical i-frames against ranged attacks, and you have pseudo i-frames against melee attacks (basically, there's an extra distance check where you'll still get nicked by a melee attack if you're too close. But, if you're some distance away, dodges will functionally give i-frames against melee attacks. This is most prominently experienced with Crushers or Maulers, whose attacks notoriously have a very short dodge catch)
Just watch some old jsat psyker gameplay, should be more or less relevant
It's super super super easy to panic when your toughness breaks, try to keep your cool and find the next target to generate toughness if you run a build that can
The notion of being taken down in one or two hits, in a game that's mostly melee focused seems ridiculous. I'm clearly not suited to play psyker. My hat off to you guys who play it regularly.
psyker is the one class to play if you don't want to interact with melee at all
Usually when my toughness breaks I don't have enough time to panic before I'm down
Yeah, melee focused is a strange term for this game when like 95% of the playerbase in aurics are dogshit at melee.
i guess yeah you can't quite hittrade like the other classes can
And not like an "elitist" dogshit, but just a general dogshit.
So I wouldn't worry about it, you just kinda learn to be squishy.
esp since we don't have any nice "warp melees" to properly synergize with the talents that we have (illisi has too much warp downtime for my liking)
Everyone is spamming aurics trying to get those sweet achievements
It's a very much sink or swim scenario because this will highlight your weaknesses
While that's a part of it, it doesn't change my statement much.
Use dodge and dodge-slide as much as possible, play more aggressive so you learn faster and also aren't at the back getting pounded 
Block is a 360 move, and it's good to run Kinetic Deflection as an early psyker.
So get used to using it.
Crushers and Bosses will test your Soulslike skills.
Or if you love being the rear then just take over the rearguard, which all pub teams desperately need
I'll keep working at it. I was playing around with the purge/BB/empowered psy and I enjoyed that. I'm trying out a smite build right now and it's punishing me.
The moment I go front in any horde pubs just die
It's at the point i just run away when I see crushers at this point
Okay, I might be onto something here. The build I went off recommended shriek, not the shield

Easily most braindead build in the game:
EP smite with creeping flames shriek.
You get an EP stack, use EP smite till 85%, shriek, keep holding smite.
Most things die.
I don't actually recommend this for learning psyker cause you probably won't learn much. But if you are thinking of quitting the class it might help.
scales as difficulty increase
it's actually silly how much better EP smite flame shriek gets
as you get into hyperdense aurics
And if we are talking survivability, what's your gear looking like?
I'll keep playing around with it, but it felt like I was slapping around with a wet noodle
Cause if things around you die, you don't.
It will kill a rager in 8 seconds. Which seems a bit long. But it will also kill 100 ragers in 8 seconds.
here is a quick partial build
without EP smite kinda shit
it's just CC
and without soulblaze, you don't get any damage at all
make sure to build up high amounts of peril before venting
venting area, strength, and (the extra node) stacks of blaze, all scale with your peril when casted
Not "high amounts" more than 83.3%, or 85% for ease of use.
That's when you get max stacks
For creeping flames
yea but you need to do the penance anyways eventually
the one to vent as you are about to blow up 🙂
i am joking
Everyone knows you can't get more than 4 edge stacks anyways. Going for 5 is just beta.
God, there's never any real sigmas in this chat.
Going go hit up my gyatt instead

all the real sigma's are in the ogryn chat
the radical left and speedrunning
lacerate knife psyker
Actual tweet from someone speaking completely in earnest.
https://twitter.com/TurboJehtt/status/1449499315970314242?s=20
Anti anti is pro pro 
I had an ogryn called [redacted]chad in my game once
prefix isnt redacted but its removed for server rules
bro kept texting in game about hating women and tried to solo two DHs first got killed because i helped second one he tried to solo he died to
this shit was so funny why is it always the people that talk shit the most that end up eating it the most?
ogryn racism lives on
i had a pleasant meeting with an ogryn named uncle ruckus, and you can probably guess how they acted
(they were not as funny as uncle ruckus)
Crimson capsule ogryns 
gg @austere crest
I had to play the entire end event at 15fps b/c of that hot new memory leak
New? 
idk usually it explodes and crashes the game instead of making me play thru a slideshow
didn't matter tho b/c ogryn stronk
Who is this skuldie that everyone is tagging 
GG'S
ITS been so choppy lately
they keep spawning random elites like right at the shoulder XD
good thing I don't need to see to mash pickaxe pushattack into heavies
my thinking: corner clear, ill traverse that way, oh a groaner, pew pew, ok here i go, oh 4 ragers and a lag spike suddenly mid attack inside me, hi, thanks forleaving a mark, i have to explain this to my coworkers on Monday and it will bne so awkward
or just, slide into a wall
shame they fixed that killbox with the last hotfix
I can solo dhs if I sweat lord it out
It’s actually simple with a knife or a ds4
Top 4 builds
Tied with blaze trauma
Can’t decide if it’s better than voc plasma or weapon specialist psword
Void strike 5th, just for existing
Yeah id rate it pretty highly turning the game off is p good
Same issue as blaze trauma, stuns everything kills everything
I might put void above it cause void is more self sufficient and lacks weakness other than maybe boss damage
But smite is quite strong
For not great reasons
"but tempo is slow"
anyway uh any videos
Blaze trauma still gets decent boss damage if you roll with a Deimos/Obs or DS4
i like the argument brought up is flamers or pruga when "killing 100 poxxers in 4 seconds"
kek
Infinite cleave is unbeatable
Flamer didn’t a buff
its innate in tide games ye
flamer didnt need a buff
but idk if it actualyl did much to it
Purg scriers is mega busted if you are good
but i dont like that buff
I barely feel any buff from using it yesterday lmao
might try that out
Infinite cleave is very busted
Ran into one in a pub who did 1.4m damage
Oh yeah if he was using uncanny it gets gross
it still melts everything it is supposed to melt and then cant melt anything that it couldnt
does uncanny flamer still work kek
i guess i dont see a reason why
immo does jack shit on crushers so idk
Yea it still does, knife/flamer zealot can still try to be a budget fotf flamer
But SB also lasts much longer than burning iirc
Funni anti dog
ah right
Literally the only reason why I have immo builds
immo is a good dog denial tool yea
is this good?
Ideally you'd want precog over slaughterer, but that is by no means a bad sword.
If you are using it as a general weapon, slaughter is quite good. If you are using it specifically for single target weak spot hits, then other choices can be better.
Kinda depends on how deimos is going to be used.
Not really. The power boost doesn't hold a candle to the finesse damage boost that precog can give you.
You're looking at like... 40% damage with t4 slaughterer at max stacks?
Precog beats that out of the water.
And, considering the nature of psyker, you're going to be dealing an unholy amount of finesse damage to begin with.
Sure, slaughterer is going to help more on the stray bodyshot, but you don't want to be aiming for their body to begin with.
I'm still going to stick with my original statement regardless of how I feel about that roll and say it's a very solid sword, though.
What if I don't want to deal with all of that 
Then use what you want?
I can't decide your loadout for you.
Hell, if you want to run shred and blazing spirit illisi, I can't stop you.
Blaze illisi buff inc tho
I would prefer blazing spirit to also apply soulblaze on empowered hits.
illisi slaughterer is better imho
deimos can see hordes with l2so
its fine
not the best but i wouldnt put precog there
deflector n stuff
Deflector is a neat blessing and honestly I'm a deflector stan as well, but I will keep my opinion that precog is better than slaughterer for the deimos model.
I feel like glory hunter is a good deimos blessing
Except that it doesn't because precognition has absolutely garbage uptime
It's extremely uncommon to put precog anywhere near the top of the list for deimos
Even on duelling swords it's becoming more widely understood to be a garbage blessing
"It has absolutely garbage uptime" just dodge another attack?
Who cares if it only lasts 3 seconds if you're dodging just as often?
It's 2s.
And there is often not an attack to dodge
Riposte has 3x the duration and still has uptime issues
I want whatever lobbies you're in where there aren't attacks to dodge.
That just straight up means nothing is attacking you in melee.
I want you to join us in reality where things get staggered and there are other teammates being targeted
This has been tested over and over and over and over again. Precognition does NOT provide sufficient uptime to justify taking it over riposte, let alone other blessings where you have more agency in proccing them
Precognition barely even does more damage than riposte.
Provide a minimum 5 minute clip demonstrating your epic precog uptime
No.
Thought so.
I don't have to provide anything to you.
I know.
Especially considering you're being extremely rude.
Misinformation irritates me
It isn't misinformation, but go off, I guess.
If you're in a position where you're fighting in melee, you're in a position to be taking advantage of precognition.
Calling precognition the ideal second blessing for deimos is most certainly misinfo
It's like 6th or 7th on the list
With how often psykers have to dodge, they will be making extreme value from it, and the deimos sword has the ideal moveset to take the greatest advantage of precog's finesse bonus.
If you're going to pull the card of "well enemies get staggered and your teammates are also fighting," let me raise you this.
Nope, we've covered this, the uptime is garbage.
Pull out your staff or gun if you have no reason to use your sword.
I didn't say there was no reason to use melee
There's simply better, more reliable blessings.
For instance the other dodge blessing with 3x the duration
Riposte?
For me both riposte and precog dont proc all the time 😦
That's just crit chance, which means it now falls to preference over consistency and the skill of the player using precog, or to chance with just having a higher crit chance.
EXACTLY
Dodge slide messes with the trigger
Even the 6s one has uptime issues
Tbf dodge slide let's you proc it against shooters
So i just run dmg up blessings instead
Nope, it's not preference, its an analysis of the garbage uptime provided by precog
Ye but you dont really dodge slide vs shooters
Well, I don't think dodge slides are really intended by fatshark, so it's not exactly a surprise that they don't count for precog or riposte.
I do, like all the time
Unless its for increased strafing
that dude tried to do it with a club and kept fucking up the stagger combo
I personally just sprint vs shooters
And yes, you do dodge slide vs shooters. Makes cover more easily accessible and you can close distance easier without getting shot.
True, depends on the situation. Either way you're getting dodge blessing procs
Fair enough
But you can guess which one isn't going to be active by the time you close
I stopped sliding gunners because sometimes if you get caught by a scab gunner you just get instakilled
Wait you mean sprint-slide, right?
Yes
I cast "pin you to the floor."
Really, they need to rework gunner stagger.
Makes no sense that they can pin you in one spot when your toughness cracks.
remove all player stagger and slows
Precog is very good vs crushers
a cursory test on plagryn of precog vs shred vs riposte is
Which is the only area the ds4 struggles
tbh i feel like the finesse damage one is more reliable
just pick your favourite flavour of damage blessing + uncanny
shred is best 
Gross
shred works against boss if it isnt focused on you
shred helps with clear and does what the other two do
so is w
Shred is underrated af on deimos, and probably on DS too
helps with clear if they decide to count your dodge
doesnt take that long to build 🤷♂️ but its a small difference at the end of the day
its not as good vs mutants but mutants vs ds4 lol
poke hewad
The issue is still one of uptime. If you're facing a pack of crushers solo, yeah, it'll be up the whole time, but if you have teammates with you you're likely to get 1 hit off with it up and then things are staggered or not aggroed on you
i only learned about it because its recommended on zealot 
people assume shred is only for crushers/armor but it helps a bunch with clear since you lmb spam
i bring unstable power on deimos because it gives you oneshot on mutants at like 40% peril or smth
Yeah that's fair I just like the even trade of crusher swings at me, I one tap crusher as punishment lol. It's a fun synchrocity
And as gui points out, the numbers have been run, and precognition only JUST out damages riposte with full uptime. If you add disrupt destiny, riposte actually adds more damage
maniac lets you do it at zero peril
i am carapace unyielding deidei
What about glory hunter or whatever the blessing for elite kills is
That could be Hella bonkers on deimos
we dont do that here
I've actually been considering this, I don't know why I haven't tried it
toughness on elite kill
its a vet thing
its crap imo
since vet has 200 toughness+shout
Especially with voidstrike where I need boss damage (and I'm not giving up carapace)
but no one runs it ever
its ass
id rather take executor over superiority
Superiority
yea executor
Damn you
you get 4 stacks from 1 light activation
Superiority
easy power

12.5 percent power on elite kill for 7 seconds deteriorating one at a time
GET IT?!!?!?! BECAUSE ITS SO BAD
supooriohiorizz
XXXDDDDDDD
For deimos specifically it might not be bad idk
The issue with Superiority is that it does nothing when elites aren't around
Which is actually a lot of the time
esp vs bosses
All stacks gone in 21s is quicker than one realises
what elites you gonna run at before you start hitting the boss lol
shred deez
Pistachios
mm
Also it's a blessing you FOOL
Kekw
( ❤️ )
On gunker I'd just use the gun lol on any other build I'd just use the staff w/bosses. Idk with the 7 second one at a time decay it's at least a pretty much guaranteed 25 percent power increase on any auric situation you'd need it and deimos is not good at proccing unstable
Deffo probably a more sound pick than unstable anyway. Shred I could see being a better pick tho
bussying
I think generally you're right, but there's the exception of voidstrike and trauma builds without brain burst
True
They do shit unyielding, so I poke in face with DS
I usually rock surge so I'm a Lil biased. Thing doesn't have great boss damage but it is there lol
dont bring unstable on gunker 
Superiority is bonkers on melee maelstrom
37.5
Tbf you maintain super high peril with assail gunker
But it stays stacked much more reliably
Deimos isn't capable of feeding on ad kills as easy as illisi with illisi slaughterer is a no brainer but deimos is deffo a different beast
Imagine not having played so much psyker you don't have most weapons available in every iteration 
Particularly for duelling swords I've rolled up so many with basically perfect base stats that I can have any iteration of blessing/perk
And yet I can't fucking get a blaze trauma with all four upgrades
i have been not been super lucky with ds4s
I'm stuck with flak/maniac like a peasant
i do have a good blaze trauma with bricked base begging for the rework
Blaze Trauma is bad anyway 
you sure you have everything
I reckon they're going to invalidate our bases
tru
show me your rending blaze trauma
i dunno
I have an epic warp flurry nexus trauma
show me your rending blaze trauma
They are removing locks, all our bases are saved
the arco special
i dont do that meme
Inb4 they increase base rating cap
all our base is going in the trash!

380?! Pathetic.
500 new highest base rating
(They are actually increasing it, btw)
100 100 100 100 100
400 minimum
but at this point i have bricked 380s of everything
theyll put it at 399 to piss you off
399 but with decimals
oh nooo what will i do without 20+ moblity on my deimos
:(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
Every max roll has a rounding error
#stillright
that will unironically ruin the game
how is 80 80 80 80 80 different from 100 100 100 100 100
more everything
yes
Seems marginal to me
It's 20 different
20% isn't much for most stats
20% more damage on sauls 
Sorry, 20 20 20 20 20 different
They can just buff enemy health by 5% to offset it
crafting update but also we are shifting the goalpost
20% more quell speed though 
someone pick a psyker weapon i have a good to great weapon+ several bricked bases of it
Gotta combat that power creep
one tap
zero peril
ok
trauma for the copium trauma mk2
edge this loser
There are exceptions 🤤
100% trauma radius
And charge rate
It's a whole 0.3s off
Now THAT is game changing.
4% for surge
3% taxes 
A bargain
i think the e key on my keyboard is too sensitive, whenever im reading discord i rest my finger slightly, and start typing eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee everytime.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Wish the res and speed were flipped but this the one I rock
Goddamnit it
I want
Rip blaze 3, already bricked 
Damn it no blaze 4
Am ded
F
Yes the vet guide is accurate 
walked some dogs through (normal) scab melee mael
sometimes i wish i could disable matchmaking with xbox players...
Idk why these people even try
the psyker was a lasgunker btw
Wild
Total Psyker death
The love we share 🧌
Total psyker life
hug every psyker kiss every psyker make hot coco for every psyker
Me playing bubble Psyker:
10 billion psyker babies must be born
after that fiasko and some internet issues i am now apparently in true solo mode
no bots no nothing
r u sure you didnt do that urself?










