psyker-class

[ornate hamlet]

Same but bb and ws

I know dd is the greatest thinf ever but i really like ws for some reason

[ripe obsidian]

Warp Siphon is also good

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah. And void still wrecks even without dd

[ripe obsidian]

WS just costs more points that I want in other places

But I don't think my build is the problem. I'm just generally not good enough to clutch with Psyker when my team dies. Too squishy. I can clutch with vet or zealot about half the time.

On psyker, even with gunner resist, I walk around a corner and get stunlocked and shredded

[ornate hamlet]

Real

Shooters are so insane now

[ripe obsidian]

One volley from a shooter destroys my toughness

[ornate hamlet]

Most of my playtime is zealot by far and im so used to holding w and taking everything for minimal effort then switcing to psyker is like bruh

[ripe obsidian]

I'm Zealot first, about the same on vet/psyker, ogryn least

I do best on Vet just because VoC+weapon specialist+rashad/revolver is OP

Yeah, just tested in meatgrinder. One dreg shooter volley depletes my toughness and then some

135 toughness and 11 hp damage

[ornate hamlet]

my problem is i try to play psyker like zealot cos its fun then get punished for it

[ripe obsidian]

I'm pretty decent at positioning, until my team runs off and leaves me behind. I am slow. D:

Then I end up swinging my illisi like a maniac trying to punch through

[ornate hamlet]

my build currently

i wish psyker was just a little faster by default

[haughty star]

yeah dude even my own fucking friends it's like slow the shit down

[ripe obsidian]

Please do not leave the psyker behind with maulers and crushers, thank you

[ornate hamlet]

That's what they look like?

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-shocked-face-stunned-pokemon-shocked-not-shocked-omg-gif-24112152

[ripe obsidian]

No, that's just the destruction thing

Any humanoid enemy looks like that if you peel their head armor

[jaunty current]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-gif-25694630

bad to the bone riff

[ripe obsidian]

Here's an ogryn, too

[flint pawn]

how does a level 21 even get into Auric Damnation, I thought it was level locked to 30?

[ornate hamlet]

joined a friend

i power leveled my lvl 5 ogryn on auric maelstrom with friends

and unlucky randoms

[flint pawn]

It would seem I was the unlucky random this time

[ripe obsidian]

I'm kinda amazed at how hard the game is post-patch. More/more accurate shooters is one thing, but everyone just ignores them and dies

[ornate hamlet]

we like always won tho cos one of them is like 1.5k hr darktide jesus and the other is rly fucking good too

and once i got to lvl 20+ i could survive alot better

[jaunty current]

i dont think enough people know yet that shooters are not to be ignored any more

[flint pawn]

That match ended after the 21 and one vet died and I couldn't Surge staff my way out of 4 crushers trapping me in a corner 💀

[ornate hamlet]

should have vented then nuked them with bb

[flint pawn]

wish I was running it

But I mean

At least I actually got out of spawn unlike the new map

[ripe obsidian]

New map ends 90% of the time on the walkway or in the first event

[flint pawn]

the last run of the new map, I even called it out

[ripe obsidian]

"Stick together? Nah, there's a dreg bruiser in that corner. Seeya, nerds."

[flint pawn]

We were all in agreement that hte map sucks

[ornate hamlet]

i did all the penances and my takeaway is
smite- how the fuck do people use this its the most boring shit ever
assail- its pretty cool but requires a bit of skill that i dont care enough to learn
bb- haha funni

[flint pawn]

I asked them to place bets on what the monstrosity that would wipe us would be

it was a chaos spawn

[ornate hamlet]

i love the new map

so much

[lethal lagoon]

Funniest part of people doing this, is 9/10 times the lvl 30 friend is literally the worst player ever and the low level is somehow better.

[ripe obsidian]

New map is cool. Just absurdly hard with randoms.

[lethal lagoon]

Like okay, carry your friend, but don't forget the carry part.

[ornate hamlet]

first event is fucked up with randoms but the rest is alright

[flint pawn]

This actually seems to be the case lol

I got forced to carry without my consent

[lethal lagoon]

[jaunty current]

new map good, i like

funny cliff

[haughty star]

bro i literally just had some trash ass pickaxe ogryn shove a dog off me in the middle of the horde with like 2hp left

pubs are straight trash since the update

[flint pawn]

I hate the first room of the new map

The shooters, the constant running around to interact with stuff with 0 cover

[flint pawn]

I don't think I've ever had to try so much to make up for the rest of the team until this patch 💀

I guess it's good experience though

[haughty star]

maybe i'm bad but i literally can't do everything

[flint pawn]

I can't solo the game but I can clutch up if I have to

[haughty star]

usually aurics are sacred but the trash is coming out the woodwork

[jaunty current]

just solo anyway

just be better

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-simple-its-shrimple-gif-25735431

[flint pawn]

Just smite

No thoughts, head empty

[lethal lagoon]

Bad pubs are a chance for juicy scoreboards.

Cherish it.

When pubs get good the game is boring AF

[flint pawn]

They don't even capitalize on smite

The few times I've ran it my team just sits there and watches lol

[shy prairie]

it's pretty

[lethal lagoon]

Support psykers aren't real, so that's more on you.

Kill shit

[flint pawn]

😔

[jaunty current]

its like they dont know that smite does piddly damage

[flint pawn]

At least with Venting Shriek I can actually kill stuff while I'm doing it

[jaunty current]

its more of a tossing implement

funny toss the heretic game

[shy prairie]

I remember when surge staff damage overrode smite for a bit

[jaunty current]

and stun the rager horde that just showed up

[haughty star]

step in front of a mirror

[flint pawn]

I still miss the 8 target Surge staff that could stun Mutants

[haughty star]

realize that not many have neckbearded as hard as you at this game

i'm mere mustache levels at this shiz

not good enough of a game for me to go that ham

[lethal lagoon]

My true levels are realtively low.

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/swag-nope-doubt-it-doubtful-gif-11156291

[lethal lagoon]

I stop playing once the pubs get good for the most part.

Which usually happens as the population dies down

[haughty star]

yeah no game's hardly good enough for me to care enough to get that good at it

literally only reason i play it is cuz borderlands is stagnant and there's really nothing else as far as horde games currently

[lethal lagoon]

Imagine an emote with a husky tilting it's head because I can't find it.

[haughty star]

doge

[lethal lagoon]

It's a horde game, run a good build with a basic understanding of the horde genre and you'll be better than 99% of players.

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-doge-meme-own-the-doge-gif-13219103497005122541

[jaunty current]

l4d2 is a thing that exists

[lethal lagoon]

[haughty star]

eh it's different. most horde games allow some sort of training mechanic and such. dt just punishes you to punish you

[jaunty current]

better without mods

[haughty star]

trash and old

[ornate hamlet]

l4d2 is like dogwater compared to verm/darktide

[lethal lagoon]

There's literally only training mechanics, unless losing makes you upset. The game has no content.

[haughty star]

l4d2 is literally only good because nostalgia and was only good because there was nothing better at the time

[jaunty current]

i said it exists i didnt say it was good

[lethal lagoon]

Scratch that, the boss fight special mission was content

[haughty star]

yes typically losing at video games is not something people want lol

[lethal lagoon]

But you didn't lose. It's a horde game. You kill shit, it dies.

Best zombie characters die from a last stand

[jaunty current]

how do i spoiler tag

[lethal lagoon]

That's actually one feature I really like about HD2, they lessen the impact of losing a lot.

You feel great about last standing a lot of the time.

[haughty star]

HD2 as a whole is alot better of a video game imo

[lethal lagoon]

Except combat of course.

Imagine if the rest of the game matched Darktide combat

[haughty star]

Ehhhh.

[lethal lagoon]

At least among FPSs I can't think of a better example.

[haughty star]

I just hate nuiscance for the sake of nuiscance in video games. that's why the entirity of the dark souls series is trash imo

[lethal lagoon]

[ornate hamlet]

is it a crime to use this without dd

[jaunty current]

you could make a new character so you can watch all those cinematics with mara vinci trying to hide being a heretic and getting deleted by rannick

[lethal lagoon]

[haughty star]

literally a whole ass game designed to piss you off with a subpar story and clunky dodge parry i frame combat mechanics

[jaunty current]

idk how to make a spoiler tag on discord

[haughty star]

have no clue why anyone enjoys them but to each their own

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/talk-search-gif-13395652704777689177

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think you need to spoiler that brother

[jaunty current]

well idk if theres new people here that dont know yet

[lethal lagoon]

||Just highlight the text and hit the eye||

[haughty star]

noone actually cares about the story in this game

even newps

[lethal lagoon]

If there's someone upset about being spoiled by this game's story, I would be in geniune shock and awe.

But that's kind of you

[haughty star]

best part of the story is the intro cinematic from the main menu lol

it goes downhill pretty quickly following

[jaunty current]

i think the cinematics are funny because you never see the strike teams mara vinci goes with ever again

and then she gets deleted

[lethal lagoon]

That's kinda of a nice detail. It would sure be nice if there was literally any reason to care about any of the characters or story

[jaunty current]

was mara vinci looting the corpses of those strike teams to sell you cosmetics?

probably

are you still gonna buy them?

absolutely

[lethal lagoon]

It's kinda like a rollercoaster.

It's stupid in theory, and yet you line up again anyways.

You say subpar story, I say optional deep story you can ignore and just immediately get into the meat of the game.

[jaunty current]

For Honor is fun until i have to fight anything other than level 1 bots

i play lawbringer

[haughty star]

for honor bad

Mordhau where it's at

[lethal lagoon]

Mordhau is just a warband clone

[jaunty current]

ive played mordhau its ok

[haughty star]

getting into a fifteen minute long knight duel with someone witha fucking dumbass with a bad guitar running around you is peak gameplay

[jaunty current]

true, but im terrible at the video game

[lethal lagoon]

that sounds actually awful.

[haughty star]

i got into a heavy knight duel with another dude and people literally formed up around us once and there were two of the lute guys playing a duet of thunderstruck lol

[lethal lagoon]

That's better.

15 minutes is so long for a singular fight.

[haughty star]

didn't mean literally fifteen minutes but it was long enough for my hands to sweat lol

just such a strange playerbase lol

[haughty star]

like dude's literally stopped the battle to watch and beat down anyone that would try to interfere

also the people that actually learn how to play the guitar thingy on there are literal maniacs lol

i used to like beating them down until i realized that most of them will beat your sick heavy knight down with a fucking funny looking guitar

[jaunty current]

bro starts playing megalovania on a banjo you know its getting real

[haughty star]

such a metal game lol

[lethal lagoon]

That happened a bunch in ds3 pvp

dark souls 3 I mean

[haughty star]

i just can't get with the i frame dodgy parrying crap lol

darktide has made me better at it but i still hardly like it

currently sprinting around as medic on HLL yelling at people not to respawn lol

[jaunty current]

bro would not want to play terraria calamity mod on infernum difficulty

[haughty star]

just legit no-win frustration features are what turn me off fast to video games

[jaunty current]

you try to kill the boss and they hit you with the:

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-awesome-mario-twerking-gif-23644561

time to walk all the way back to the arena

[hearty dagger]

...When do the pubs get good?

[lethal lagoon]

Not during updates, that's for sure.

[jaunty current]

especially not during the minecraft update

[hearty dagger]

Even during the absolute deadest this game has been, i've seen like 5 instances of pubs being "good"

[jaunty current]

ice mining profits are through the roof though lemme tell ya

[hearty dagger]

Aka not having their head so far up their ass they can french kiss themselves from the other way around

I've seen the most zealot moment possible

Straight up zealot squared shit

Zealot runs ahead, gets trapped

Has nothing on him

Other zealot runs past him and he dies

[lethal lagoon]

I dunno, for me it's just when a game has no one die.

That hits the qualifer for "good".

[ornate hamlet]

just tried an auric maelstrom and did better than the people 5x my level so im happy with that

[hearty dagger]

Honestly a game that has no one die isn't necessarily because the pubs are good

[ornate hamlet]

i dont think i can giveup warp charges tbh

[lethal lagoon]

Sure, but it's about a pattern not a singular easy game.

[hearty dagger]

Most people die because for some reason pubs have 0 sense of teamplay

I've had multiple cases of randos

Now i'm not pointing any fingers, but for some reason, all those randos were zealots for context

Said randos have pushed poxbursters into me

[lethal lagoon]

I think it's just really noticeable when a zealot runs ahead, get's trapped, and then rage quits.

[jaunty current]

4 pub ogryn, a sight to see

[hearty dagger]

Usually in the stupidest ways possible.

Sometimes i'll go to push one and then a knife flies from somewhere directly into the detonator.

[haughty star]

even when i play with my friends there's just no sense of coherency which psyker kinda depends heavily on

[ornate hamlet]

my friend shot a poxburster that i was very obiously walking twoards with intent of pushing so i called him gamer words

[lethal lagoon]

TBF, that's how you get really good at the game. You do risky stupid shit until you can survive doing risky stupid shit

[hearty dagger]

A friend of mine did that and he claimed that he saved me.

[lethal lagoon]

But if you just get trapped everytime, it doesn't work

[hearty dagger]

I still want to bitch slap him.

[ornate hamlet]

yeah well i fucking died so

[hearty dagger]

Which i actually can do, we're classmates

[ornate hamlet]

Walked in on the middle of this match. Had 2-3 deaths ( I dont use mods or sb, too much stuff goes wonky with mods for some reason. ) But.. .mother of god, that death count there at the end... What happened? I may have saw like... 5 maybe 8 total?

[hearty dagger]

Curiously, there's a zealot in there.

And an empty slot.

[ornate hamlet]

The Ogryn was the GOAT

[haughty star]

some ogryns be like that

[ornate hamlet]

get true level

[haughty star]

most do not be tho

[hearty dagger]

Honestly ogryns are either GOATs or they're goatshit

[haughty star]

i love to see it tho

[hearty dagger]

I have never in my life seen an ogryn that was merely decent

[ornate hamlet]

Mods get funky with my install for some reason. I've done them three times and it never ends well; I don't bother anymore.

[hearty dagger]

They either go above and beyond to save the team or they go above and beyond to be (multiple gamer words that will get me banned)

[haughty star]

like just the other day there was a ogryn who clutched a damn auric and i was cheering him on in chat lol

i'm like "GO YOU BIG DUMB SUN OF A BITCH GOOOOOOO"

[ornate hamlet]

lmao

That's good.

[hearty dagger]

I remember my first almost clutch back in the day.

[ornate hamlet]

My Ogryn's name is BruceBannerius if you've seen'im.

[haughty star]

Literally shouting in Voice comms "Look at the size of this man's dick!" "LOOK AT IT"

[hearty dagger]

Team wiped

[ornate hamlet]

BruciusBannerius*

[hearty dagger]

Pre-skill tree rework psyker

I somehow dodge multiple trapper nets, kill the horde and multiple elites

Then i open a door and 58 crushers come out

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/mother-of-god-gif-10218431

[haughty star]

I will straight up clutch a whole ass phase then die to one mauler waiting by my downed teamies

[hearty dagger]

Mind you this was impressive to the lobby back then because people couldn't dodge an entire truck moving at them at 1 mph back in the day

[haughty star]

Full send or no send for me

[hearty dagger]

Aka people who could dodge shit were rare

[haughty star]

I'm starting to get irritated with the game again tho so maybe it's time for a break

[hearty dagger]

I truly appreciate randoms

[haughty star]

It's not the new buffs or anything i've just hit a point to where if my team fails me it's not funni anymore lol

[hearty dagger]

They make playing with my more intellectually impaired friends more bearable by comparison

[jaunty current]

ogryn slab shield vs 58 crushers in a single file line, its doable if youre like a deity at the video game

[ornate hamlet]

Btw, this shotgun is serving my gunpsyker build well, along with this maul. I don't know what to do with the maul whether there's better blessings to be had, I like the High Voltage because you electrocute your enemies and it makes great LMB spam while using scriers gaze. Any suggestions? (shotgun is also fantastic)

[haughty star]

that shield fucks tho

[haughty star]

replace maul with ds4

psyker get's funi force swords or ds4

[hearty dagger]

Yeah but bonkker is funnier

[haughty star]

ds4 is stronkest melee in the game objectively

[ornate hamlet]

I've been using this for almost over a year. I'm bored of it.

[ornate hamlet]

hop on illussy brother

[haughty star]

that's prettyish

[hearty dagger]

Yes but consider that shockmauls have a considerable level of childlike whimsy attached to them

[haughty star]

illisi just FEELS good

[jaunty current]

psyker has chainsword too

[haughty star]

i always feel like jedi with illisi

[ornate hamlet]

please dont ruin it for me

[haughty star]

like luke vader himself

[ornate hamlet]

It sure does, I have a souleblaze and that one where you get guaranteed crit after special kill. The fire is there for anything that doesn't immediately die after charging the second hit. It cleaves through everything.

[jaunty current]

darth skywalker indeed

[hearty dagger]

Man, force swords are funny as hell

Way back when, i think like closed beta back when, i ended up pushing a random scab back into the spawn door and it was the funniest shit ever at the time

like "Loyalist scum!"
"Nope."

[haughty star]

i've been meaning to try obscurus apparently it's pretty busted now

[ornate hamlet]

Anything that that illisi can't handle gets this treatment: Damage was the dumpstat because of how much surge triggers imo.

[ornate hamlet]

get uncanny strike and solo crusher packs

[haughty star]

ehhhh crushers are still defffo a tough subject for illisi. it's doable but it's not optimal fer sure

[jaunty current]

a few days ago i got punched outside the map by a chaos spawn on one of the atmospheric shield maps, the sandy ones

[hearty dagger]

Hourglass maps

[haughty star]

i guess they juiced the fuck out of obscurus with a h1{?} buff

[ornate hamlet]

I have fun with a deimos blade and this is only if you're really good at hitting weakspots consistently for gun psyker:
Exorcist
and Transfer Peril during Scrier's gaze. With hordes, you can run SG near indefinitely until there's nothing left.

[hearty dagger]

Honestly i ran the obscurus out of necessity back when it was the only force sword

[lethal lagoon]

You're not a fan of Patrick Stewart? He's amazing in star wars.

[flint pawn]

oh my god I hate pox gas

[lethal lagoon]

[hearty dagger]

And now if i run a FS it's Illisi because i'm not a big fan of fucky movesets

[ornate hamlet]

i dont like starwars

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-shrute-dwight-annoyed-zoom-in-dwight-bored-gif-16290803

[hearty dagger]

New star wars or star wars in general?

[ornate hamlet]

all starwars

[jaunty current]

dont breathe youll be fine

[haughty star]

yee try the obscurus i guess it's a great middle of the road after machine update

[lethal lagoon]

That was literally the greatest response to my joke I could have ever hoped for.

[hearty dagger]

Please standby, the walmart assassin is on the way

[lethal lagoon]

[flint pawn]

Trapped in a 45 minute match with one competent Vet, one knife Vet that kept running off on his own and dying isolated, and an Ogryn that I don't think dodged a single time that match. Both were +200+

[ornate hamlet]

i live and die by lord of the rings

[ornate hamlet]

O Not meal team six?!

[haughty star]

Neil Patrick Stewart was terrible in trek wars

Revenge of the DS9

[jaunty current]

both star wars and LOTR are good

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/opening-door-open-doors-aragorn-lotr-gif-15869744048027043447

[haughty star]

I literally cannot

keep

my

wife

awake

through

LOTR

[hearty dagger]

Ngl i thought to myself "Where tf was patrick stewart in star wars? who tf was patrick stewart?"

[lethal lagoon]

Just get her to the door scene

Then you'll want her to go to bed.

[hearty dagger]

Tell her that Viggo Mortensen broke his toe in that one scene

Always works.

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/ashita-no-joe-joe-and-rikiishi-joe-yabuki-rikiishi-toru-tomorrow's-joe-gif-8925669990412832438

A moment of silence.

[lethal lagoon]

That's the best response

[haughty star]

Neil patric stewart to you

[hearty dagger]

I was being serious.

[lethal lagoon]

Exactly

[hearty dagger]

I have a terrible name/face memory so i thought i just got him mixed up

[lethal lagoon]

Nope just a classic I can't tell the difference between Star Wars and Star Trek joke

[haughty star]

i've been having fun running shield BB and EP but it's incredibly reliant on my teammates not moving to the next zip code and leaving me with all the trash and backspawn

[lethal lagoon]

Wait who died?

[ornate hamlet]

Oh shit, back to the Shock Maul, what should I put on it?

[ornate hamlet]

There's no "moment of silence gif" for what I was seeking

[lethal lagoon]

the brittle thing and the damage on shock thingy

[hearty dagger]

Weird pick but i like High Voltage and Falter

[ornate hamlet]

I was going for "A moment of silence" for your hardship

[haughty star]

i'm using a mk6 recon or CIAG for emergencies and ds4 for everything else just because it's so strong it don't need no build around it

[lethal lagoon]

That sounds like it's then not fun.

[ornate hamlet]

why falter?

[hearty dagger]

Trolling the shit out of ragers.

Assuming it's the indignatus, Falter lets you stunlock them with the infinite overheads

[lethal lagoon]

No one leaves a vet behind, but people will race to leave a psyker behind, so you gotta do it first

[haughty star]

Crusher gameplay for everyone

[hearty dagger]

My psyker ass getting my hands on my beloved shockmaul:
"That's it, i cast INFINITE HANDS!"

Contrary to all the cowards saying 0 melee damage psyker is ideal

I say Hands psyker is best

[haughty star]

just dumb lol you run the build to mitigate gunners then they just run ahead and die to gunners leaving you trying to clutch with a really not clutchworthy build lol

[hearty dagger]

Get in their face

Punch them

Take their lunch money

[haughty star]

shield is such a weird love hate relationship for me

[lethal lagoon]

Cold take, shield is there to increase your DPS, not to support your team.

[haughty star]

well yeah

[lethal lagoon]

If you support your team with it, they just will take ranged threats less seriously and it will fuck up their positioning.

[haughty star]

i suppose i could run wall

really commense the bb spam

[hearty dagger]

Joke's on you, i have never once seen a team of randos that actually use my shields

[lethal lagoon]

My kind of pubs

[hearty dagger]

Dome shield? They ignore it

[haughty star]

it IS however mildly hilarious watching them get fucking annihilated by gunners after running right through the shield i just placed down that has LOS on them

[hearty dagger]

Wall shield? They will stand in front of it

[lethal lagoon]

I can't run anything else with BB after this

#psyker-class message

[haughty star]

i

i

[ripe obsidian]

I'm strongly considering going back to shield just because people can't deal with shooters

[haughty star]

you just brainbursted my ass

[lethal lagoon]

[haughty star]

don't help cuz everyone gotta be a super duper frag stealth knife stabby guy these days lol

[haughty star]

literally never even thought about doubling down lol i just did not think it would stack like that

[lethal lagoon]

It technically stacks infinite times

[haughty star]

cdr is lower too on it isnt it?

[lethal lagoon]

Although if you pop blue stim and then 2 shields it can make it a little glitchy

🤏

[ripe obsidian]

And those are the exact people who pop out of stealth and get turned into swiss cheese

[flint pawn]

I think I've ran into 2 knife users who were actually good with it in the last 40 or so matches.. and I'm certain almost every single match had at least one

[potent echo]

Hello

Puncture + assail

[flint pawn]

I thought Auric D amnation was a safe space

[potent echo]

[ripe obsidian]

Most of my matches are me, one person who's good, and two people who are clowns. Or 8 people who are clowns rotating in as the previous one ragequits.

[haughty star]

stealth is so awful lol

[flint pawn]

I thought Auric Damnation was safe 😭

[ripe obsidian]

And when I go down or the good person goes down, it all falls apart

[brazen rampart]

I am the same way.

Though I don't ever get a good person.

Just some buffoon that thinks they're good.

[haughty star]

the rage quitting is awful lately

[flint pawn]

Today's literally only been really bad knife users, a level 21, people who don't know what the dodge button is, people with main hero syndrome, and my entire team wiping on the new map at the first part to a monstrosity

[haughty star]

i'm consistently good with surge if people just slow tf down and move forward at a steady pace rather than scattering like cockroaches to be the first and last to get a elite kill

[ripe obsidian]

I'm usually top 50% of my team. Sometimes best, sometimes second. Rarely 3rd or worst

[haughty star]

like just calm down, stay together and march forward. they even have a example in the intro video

[ripe obsidian]

But yeah, people just sprint away as if it's a race to die first

[flint pawn]

I haven't even been sure if it's rage quitting

People keep crashing, I've been crashing too

[haughty star]

tfw bb is nonironically psykers secret bossing build lol

[ripe obsidian]

If they vanish out of nowhere, it's a crash. If they quit when they go down or type "gg" when hit with a net, they're ragers

And not the kind I can pop with bb

[haughty star]

you could literally take down most of a chaos spawn with the ten seconds of shame that shit does for ya

[flint pawn]

I've had a few I can tell were just rqers but I've had a LOT of random disconnects when we were doing pretty good

[ripe obsidian]

If you d/c, you can reconnect

[flint pawn]

I quickplayed into the pox gas nightmare match and it was just me and some other Psyker and he ragequit after a poxburster just materialized behind him, and I don't blame him

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, I've had loads of audio issues lately

[lethal lagoon]

BTW, I'm fairly certain a DC will present as a down.

When my internet was shit I kept failing the malice no downs penance.

Kinda sadge to think people thought I raged quit

[ripe obsidian]

Unfortunate for people who aren't ragequitting

[lethal lagoon]

I would venture most people leaving after a down aren't rage quitting?f

Now if they are leaving at the end of a down

sure.

Like right before the down kills them.

[ripe obsidian]

tbh I'm just salty and in a bad mood from non-game things, so I'm liable to be more negative than normal

[flint pawn]

I just realized

Pox gas modifier on the new map

hahaha

[ornate hamlet]

awesome now you have infinite medi stims for when ur teammates die 50 times

[flint pawn]

I like the way you think

[ornate hamlet]

:3

Is there a damage resistance for ragers? lol

[lethal lagoon]

Nah I mean lots of people ARE rage quitting right now cause of ASS

My fear is ASS makes them used to rage quitting and they contiune afterwards

[hearty dagger]

They are.

People are ragequitting on regular quickplay damnation

[tired estuary]

Ragequitting def became more prevalent in general after ASS was put into the game

[hearty dagger]

Also just had the most surreal encounter with a sibling.

Sibling wasn't anywhere near us while we were doing objective

Went down and then called us a bunch of assholes in french

what

[lethal lagoon]

*Someone Rages on mic
*Hits tab
*Yep last place

[hearty dagger]

Honestly i feel like i'm in the minority of people who play unmodded darktide at this point

[ornate hamlet]

what does this mean

[tired estuary]

One time I used VoC to steal dh killfeed from a zealot who intentionally aggro'd it to push it off ledge with relic, tthey spent the entire game cursing out Dickot in spanish

[lethal lagoon]

Lesbian Booger fetish or just a funny guy named Yuri.

[eager junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1256509975572774983/makesweet-53je05.gif

[ornate hamlet]

nuh huh

[marble crater]

The perfect thing to send to EP smite bubble mains https://youtube.com/shorts/URsMn3LYFsk

[hearty dagger]

I'm a bubble assail main, what do i get?

[robust badge]

does perfect timing (warp damage on crit hits) affect smite? I think I did a bit of testing but it didn't seem to affect it 😦

[upper sun]

smite doesnt crit

[marble crater]

Spared

[upper sun]

has anyone ever seen more-info-needed under a non cosmetics related bug report

because i havent

[marble crater]

I generally don't make bug reports, so no

[idle mesa]

Hey guys if I wanted to make a gunpysker build what should i use?

[restive ice]

probably a gun

[idle mesa]

No way mr/ms obvious

I'd like specific details if anyone wants to help

[silver portal]

Use a gun you like, there’s alota guns…

Build wise use most of the right side of tree

[thin finch]

the AOE bullet does not trigger bleed stack , that roll is shit as a consequences

[idle mesa]

Yeah I don't think is that simple, what I mean is build like I'd like to compare notes with others who have this type of builds

[silver portal]

Im actually a gun psyker ask away

[thin finch]

the question is what do you want to go with your gunker

[marble crater]

Columnus, assail, sciers gaze, DD

[upper sun]

make more bug reports

[silver portal]

I go shards, bubble, and middle

[upper sun]

better yet report any change you dont agree with as a bug

[idle mesa]

Idk total blank slate, never used it. What should I use as a gun, blessings perks, i guess for melee illisi or saber?

[silver portal]

Disrupt D kinda butt tho no?

[thin finch]

Personally when I pull out the get I tend to gravitate toward either the Revolver if I want to precisely kill elite with the gun and an illisi as a sword, for a bit of everything I'm rolling with a laspistol (the melee weapon becomes less relevant but the sword is good) and my favorite DD weapon as of late is the Vraks VII headhunter

[upper sun]

no DD is is great

it got buffed a patch agoo

[thin finch]

very much great in it's current state

like both side are a viable option now imo

[silver portal]

Oh need to look into it then

[marble crater]

I reported this, my reported bugs have a 100% fixed rate

And yes DD is great now

[silver portal]

I typically run, crowd control melee, revolver/bolt gun, assail, bubble, and empowered psyionics.

Assail = trash shooters/horde
Melee = horde
Rev/bolt = specials

I’ve survived auric dams with this so far

[thin finch]

holy sheit the AOE damage of the boltgun is pointless aside maybe to stagger dude 😦

[silver portal]

For me i found just getting that critical chance per aim blessing and just headshotting does the trick

[thin finch]

so yeah the point is mostly to stagger, the explosion damage are worthless and they don't trigger other damage perk

[marble crater]

You should try gaze, DD and DS4 for melee, crushers? Gone. Maulers? Gone. Hordes? Gone

[thin finch]

(like bleed stack, which would have made this gun a great horde dealer)

[thin finch]

Ye, but I struggle to aim quickly and switfly with this gun

[silver portal]

Yeah but most of the time teams i see don’t run anything to deal with trash gunners so i keep bubble

[silver portal]

Oh i have 80% (i forgot name of stat) sway so that helps me

Body shots work if they’re too close to aim accurately

[silver portal]

Wait whats ds4?

[marble crater]

Assail for trash gunners

Dueling Sword Mk4

[silver portal]

Ah

[restive ice]

the nuke on a stick

[silver portal]

Ye i put assail, but I use for horde too sometimes so bubble is backup to let it recharge

[thin finch]

I am also happy to announce that high voltage works with smite

[silver portal]

Owo

[marble crater]

DS4 with gaze active deletes hordes surprisingly well

[silver portal]

You gotta slash at head level tho to get critical hits?

[upper sun]

i should surrender this for exorcist 2 right?

[silver portal]

Noice

[restive ice]

gotta fill out that stickerbook somehow

[upper sun]

JUST ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL

[cosmic sigil]

Does thrust can empower soul blaze like any other power blessing? Is it fixed?

[silver portal]

Its bricked sacrifice it to the omnisaiah

[marble crater]

Don't know, just slash

[cosmic sigil]

Because it's the only weapon with thrust available to psyker

Oh wait, no. Caxe.

[silver portal]

I am confused by the wording

[cosmic sigil]

?

[marble crater]

Psyker doesn't have chain axes

[silver portal]

Oh im not familiar with thrust blessing and using soul blaze

[restive ice]

this reminds me that i need to make my tac ax shredder autopistol psyker

[quartz barn]

i feel like this is the wrong psyker chat for this kinda question lmao

[silver portal]

You should try gun psyker if you get bored of staves

Whole new worlddddd

[restive ice]

bro im jerkin my illisi so hard rn im gonna perils of the warp

[quartz barn]

i usually run either void or gunker now

tried it with the new shotty last time but was pretty meh

because the close range offense doesnt compensate for the non existant long range options

[silver portal]

bolt pistol a little behind rev with damage but it’s too drippy to not use

[thin finch]

you can also change character tbh

[quartz barn]

?

[silver portal]

I refuse, wizard with a gun too drippy

[quartz barn]

thats the point of gunker xd

you run scriers so you outdamage everyone else, but with a gun this time

[marble crater]

Alakablam

[silver portal]

Just outa curiosity how u run scriers with assail? Do you just not pull the shards out when scriers is on?

I mainly use bubble

[quartz barn]

i usually dont use any blitz

as in, i just dont use it

[marble crater]

You can throw a few at the start, after that it gets a bit risky

[silver portal]

:0 what in the

[quartz barn]

you obv can but have to manage peril gain / vent really well

[silver portal]

Do you have the head exploding one withe that 10% passive then? I use to run it like that

[quartz barn]

gets harder the longer you are in scriers as you vent as fast as you gain peril if you have active long enough

[silver portal]

I forgor name

[restive ice]

kinetic flayer chads rise up

[silver portal]

Brain burst*

[quartz barn]

brain burst, also 10% bb charge is bad

[restive ice]

ah fucj i blew up a poxburster

[silver portal]

:0

[silver portal]

No the passive one where all ur attacks have a chance to BB. Since you said u don’t use blitzes

[quartz barn]

kf is just a waste of a point

i know what you meant, its just not effective

[silver portal]

Interesting

[upper sun]

kf is horrible

[quartz barn]

but uh the reason i dont really use blitzes is because outside of ep smite you're often better of just using your weapons

[restive ice]

fuck that groaner in particular

[upper sun]

ive been saying kf should make BB only target elites/disablers and bosses

it needs to be reworked

[quartz barn]

especially if you use stuff like scriers or any staff with nexus where you want to be at 80 - 100 peril all the time

why would i use bb when void clears the entire corridor

[marble crater]

KF needs to be deleted from the game

[quartz barn]

or aoes random enemies in front of me as i line up a long range shot

[idle mesa]

Guys would you consider gameslantern a good site to follow build tips?

[cosmic sigil]

Power blessings used to empower SB damage.

[quartz barn]

uhhh

not really

[upper sun]

all of these need to be deleted or reworked

[quartz barn]

soulblaze dmg is tied to the stacks on the enemy

time to pull out the graph i guess

[cosmic sigil]

Slaughterer, pinning fire...

[marble crater]

Why did you circle a lot of empty space?

[cosmic sigil]

That was og illisi shredder gun psyker

[quartz barn]

and when was this

beta?

[cosmic sigil]

Guess you forgot uncanny.

[cosmic sigil]

At least until p13

[quartz barn]

wait but from what i see its not the soulblaze dmg that gets upped, just that the enemy takes more dmg from every source

i guess ye soulblaze will do more then, i was thinking of increased tick dmg per stack

[near wyvern]

You forgot Anticipation. It doesn't increase dodge duration and all it does is give you one extra full dodge.

@upper sun and puppet master is crazy strong, shouldn't be on that list

Also smite upgrades are rather weak

[marble crater]

The extra smite jump is funny though

[near wyvern]

It is funny and somewhat usable, but it just needs something more to it as well

[digital narwhal]

It does increase dodge linger though iirc, which only works for melee hits, but not ranged hits

Also, if anything is up on the board for being changed about Psyker first, it's Creeping Flames

It is too egregiously strong

[marble crater]

My trauma and surge builds are the same, other than wildfire on trauma and the jump on surge most of the time you won't even use smite, so the point is wasted, but when you do use it everything that needs to be stunned gets stunned really quickly and can save a life or run

[near wyvern]

I tested it with a scab gunner but even if it does increase the window where melee wont track you it's garbage. As a Psyker melee is not the problem, it's the ranged fire.

[digital narwhal]

Oh I get that, was more so just elaborating to add to the dialogue

[near wyvern]

Shh. Also don't mention anything about Kinetic Deflection and Knife 6 push attack spam.

[digital narwhal]

[digital narwhal]

Trust me, it's known already

Psyker at this point just needs a tree rework like Vet got

Vet and Zealot have ~50% more blue nodes than Psyker and Ogryn, and the latter two also just have really weirdly built trees

[near wyvern]

Pls no huge overhauls, it will mean 20 hours of work for me again 🙈

[digital narwhal]

Like, the spider web that is the middle of the Psyker tree is just fucked

[digital narwhal]

I still need a rework, pal

I'm sorry for the work you'll have to do

[marble crater]

Yes, let us take Assail with Psy Aura, it will be fine

[digital narwhal]

but it'll be healthy

[digital narwhal]

Assail needs to be changed anyway tbh

[near wyvern]

The purpose of the Psyker tree is that you can mix and match more than for other classes, they want it to be very flexible

[digital narwhal]

We should encourage Assail to be used as intended with the identity of weaving in and out of it along with your melee and ranged option.

[near wyvern]

IMO bring back Assail weave

[digital narwhal]

Instead of just using Assail as a main weapon.

[lunar hollow]

yeah im not really a fan of either tree. like the way the pathing is setup just feels dull and sorta awkward

[near wyvern]

The only thing that made Agripinaa revolver viable was the Assail weave. Hand Cannon + sustained fire worked like a charm. Throw two darts, swap, fire revolver once, let darts land, repeat

[digital narwhal]

I wanna buff Agri Revolver tbh

It's niche is really just in boss melting

It's not pin point accurate, which is an issue

[near wyvern]

Which only works on veterans

Try the bolt pistol, it's literally the better Agripinaa revolver

[digital narwhal]

Oh trust me, I know, and even then the Bolt Pistol leaves something to be desired

[lunar hollow]

i like the thematic concept of zarona having the big cleave (though problematic with how its currently set up) while the agri is better for like, gun lines

except the agri gets suppressed

and has sway

and its really just kinda a struggle to get stuff done

[digital narwhal]

Zarona should have less cleave and Agri should have more cleave tbh

They should be standardised imo

[tired estuary]

I don't think they need even cleave but zarona's def needs nerfed

honestly no bodyblocking is a big agri buff lol (Its still bad on psyker)

[digital narwhal]

I think they do; getting a single shot blocked by a random Poxie is always a feel bad moment.

Precision weapons with low ammo counts should not suffer that.

I'd at least like to be able to cleave 3 Poxies with the Agri.

[lunar hollow]

there's a definite level of cleave the agri needs

[tired estuary]

maybe minimum cleave to go thru one and kill w/e is behind it

[lunar hollow]

i just wish it fit the thematic idea where fanning it is kinda like rdr2 deadeye in that you can fucking hit people

[near wyvern]

Not really at least in the context of Psykers. It has very good break points for psykers:

https://youtu.be/va3iEKPDZ7Q

[digital narwhal]

I believe Zarona has 6.5 rn?
I believe Agri should be raised to 3.5 and Zarona nerfed to 3.5.

[tired estuary]

but otherwise I'd just take smth like better accuracy on fanning

and yeah bp feels solid on psyker for me so far

[digital narwhal]

I'm not on about the damage, but the handling is an issue.
Also, when you aim down sights, the dot is actually off from where it was when hip firing.

Additionally, no cleave on Bolt Pistol is an issue in the same vein as Agri.

[lunar hollow]

the boltpistol's feel almost makes up for every other problem i have with the gun

[near wyvern]

If you would add cleave to bolt pistol you would have to nerf the damage. At that point what's the difference between zarona and the bolt pistol

[digital narwhal]

We managed to push the weapons out in passable or good states (Pickaxes and Shockmas got the best of it), but everything we released needs another pass to fix up minor issues tbh.

[lunar hollow]

the double barrel has a really funny sort of pointless bug. if you brace and then fire an empty gun it holds you in the brace animation for the duration it would normally

and you can't swap out

[digital narwhal]

Handling speed, wield time, and still would ultimately be higher cleave than Bolt Pistol if I had my way.
They'd also reset recoil faster than Bolt Pistol does now too.

[lunar hollow]

but you haven't... fired the gun. lol

[near wyvern]

I am not yet convinced for shock sticks for psykrers, the double barrel shotgun is definitely an under performer.

[tired estuary]

Yeah idk its not top tier and minor stuff like aiming jank could be fixed (lmao @ the cosmetic's fire blocking sight)

[near wyvern]

The handling speed and wield time for psykrers is in a good spot, you can go Assail LMB into hip fire very fast

[tired estuary]

cbt mauls are "fine" on psyker b/c they're just good weapons imo. shottie isn't great for em but it's funny

there's also stuff like assail rmb + single bp shot breakpoints

[near wyvern]

I need to test them properly for void staff because I don't see why you would take them otherwise. The shock stick seems to bring good single target CC with moderate horde CC and damage. Why not bring a Deimos, DS4 or Knife 6 instead.

[marble crater]

For fun

[tired estuary]

Mostly fun, their push attacks are actually p good at spreading electricity on mobs and psyker can spam b/c stamina regen in crusty situations

[marble crater]

Not a fan of the Indig moveset, need to try the other one as well

[tired estuary]

agni moveset just kinda feels like cheeks, like the h2 hitbox feels smaller than it should be

but I haven't given it a fair chance

[upper sun]

i thought anticipation got fixed

also my issue with puppet master isnt the talent itself its that the whole branch could use a trimming and i think that one is the first one there

[tired estuary]

smauls are just kinda v safe weapons in general like zealot crusher. and they're kinda nice for making bullwarks less annoying on assail gunker

[marble crater]

Replace BM with puppet master and remove BM

[upper sun]

maybe

[near wyvern]

I can test again but nothing has been stated in the patch notes

[marble crater]

We will wait with anticipation

[near wyvern]

I agree on the part that faster quelling should be taken out from there and made easier to access. It's a redundant talent if you want to do a battery gunner build.

[upper sun]

usable????!?!?!?

i know only rage

[cosmic sigil]

I feel like getting skull crusher 4 will be like getting thrust 4 on thammer.

Millions have been spent...

[upper sun]

no nothing is like thrust 4 on hammer

NOTHING

[cosmic sigil]

And still t3

I waited a year to get it. In the shop.

It's just that I have now access to more resources and well still no t4

I am going to stop there

[upper sun]

only winning move is not to play

[thin finch]

no , I like the dopamine !

Another spin at Hadron's Gambling Den

while we still can

[hardy raft]

power cycler 4

[upper sun]

took me 1/4th of the plasteel thrust took me

[cloud sequoia]

hold the fuc up i just saw EP brainburst doesnt oneshot flak rager

[spare light]

Haven't played in a while, is purg staff still one of the better boss melters for Psyker?

[cosmic sigil]

Same

[marble crater]

Yeah

[spare light]

Thanks homie

[upper sun]

question tbh am i the only one that randomly loses a single poxie after clearling a wave just to get hit in the back by it and get chunked

happens to me like once a game

[plucky flax]

Yes

[upper sun]

😡

[marble crater]

Skill issue

[hardy delta]

no joke, yeah

its very important to not leave them behind

esprcially shooters

[late sapphire]

gotta get used to dodging the moment you hear the backstab sound effect

[upper sun]

ye or block but by the time that happens i ran out of dodges or stamina because i moved the hoard awkwardly

[marble crater]

180 no scope headshot the poxwalker with rmb

[quartz barn]

Dodge slide backwards into them and push them in the same direction as their jump

Unironically do this all the time

[weary crane]

The problem is when things get knocked down

Not only can you not dodge because they are on the floor, but you can't hit weakpoints or collat

Or see them, and thats why they sneak up again

[spice veldt]

i'm usually either spamming dodges or moving forward (so that enemies have to catch up to me)

[upper sun]

ye

[spice veldt]

so i don't have to pay attention to random enemies behind

[upper sun]

when they get knocked down i dont know if theyre left of me or right after wards

[spice veldt]

and if i do i just look backwards while dodging backwards to keep moving forward because i just want to go forward

[upper sun]

forum keeping it real for once

[weary crane]

My main vet build doesn't knock down enemies apart from frag nade but 1 shots poxwalkers

It's annoying when you're about to hit a weakspot kill and some fatass ogyrn knocks them over

[marble crater]

Now we wait for the maniacs that vote the last two options

[haughty star]

does true aim apply to bb?

[spice veldt]

it can stack it, but because BB can't crit, it can't make use of it

[haughty star]

oh damn lol

[spice veldt]

pretty unfortunate

[patent steeple]

I didn't know BB is unable to crit, thx for the information!

[haughty star]

yeah it is that'd be a funni interaction

[spice veldt]

and the one thing on the right side that could combo well with BB is malefic which is also inaccessible

guh

[patent steeple]

I think malefic could be broken rn anyways, because the description is an error message...

[spice veldt]

it's prob just a description bug alone

since it's happened a few times and talents have been functioning besides new players not having any inkling as to what they do

[potent echo]

Until you see 5 bulwarks in front then the rear parade comes through

Malefic probably getting changed uwu

[patent steeple]

fair point, actually... I guess I just remembered the time when the starter psyker ult (weaker shriek) didn't vent any peril and the description was an error until it was made to vent 10%, and I just kinda assumed there was some relation to the description and the actual effect...

[spice veldt]

the consequences of not deealing with enemies behind until it is too late 😔

at least that I don't think was an error with the description but was more related to penances and stuff, cuz they still referenced "Psykinetic's Wrath" (e.g., use psykinetic's wrath to save yourself 50 times)

and one of the big things of the shouting ult is to vent and that got stripped away frrom the starting kit with p13

[patent steeple]

ok then.

hmmm... now I have a problem with my gunker build: I took off Malefic due to thinking it was broken, but now I am too used to quelling while moving being easier via Mind in Motion, and even a single -5% node peril is decent on gunker as well since I think it slows down Gaze peril buildup just enough for me to get higher Gaze stacks passively...

[next pine]

Going to vote for randomize everything in service of Tzeentch

[upper sun]

MODS BREAK HIS FEMUR

[rain meadow]

Hello fellow spark heads

what are our thoughts on the emperors holy flame?

and a LOT of it?

[upper sun]

purge?

very based staff

[rain meadow]

purgatus, creeping flames, brain rupture

MAXIMUM soulblaze

[upper sun]

yerr i love it

i use this build by this random person https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c39d463-1cc1-4b31-a1e6-6656dbc7f336/fired-up

[rain meadow]

its singlehandedly gotten me and serveral of my friends INTO the class

[rain meadow]

i do pretty much this, but with warp charges instead

also, can we talk about how hideously underrated creeping flames is?

that talent is lowkey overpowered as fuck

[upper sun]

warp charges are really nice but so expensive 😭

[rain meadow]

like, this doesnt SOUND like much

but its NUTS how much value it has

[upper sun]

ye crazy range too

[rain meadow]

at 6 stacks of soulblaze, many enemies just fucking die

[upper sun]

it also ignores the soulblaze cap

[stuck sinew]

Press F to delete every trash mob

[rain meadow]

cap is 31

cap on staff is 15

i dont think it lets you go over 31

[plucky flax]

Underrated in what rock?

[rain meadow]

like, we dont talk enough, in general, how good it is

like, people take it caus ethey know its good

but i dont see anybody talking about how stupid it is

[plucky flax]

It's 2nd strongest ability in game.

[rain meadow]

but do people TALK about it?

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[rain meadow]

like think about it

i feel like i see way more dicussion on

like

chain lightning

this is my pyromancer build

and yes, i know warp charges are kinda expensive to build

but its worth

(although you could really build any keystone, its kinda too thematic for me to NOT build it)

[plucky flax]

It's more creeping flames spam.

[rain meadow]

yes

[plucky flax]

You should take combustion though.

[rain meadow]

which feeds in fire reborn

[plucky flax]

Also you don't have perfect timing.

[rain meadow]

whichis MORE creeping flames spam

[rain meadow]

ehhhhhhhhh

i would but im out of points

[plucky flax]

It's a lot of damage increase.

[rain meadow]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[marble crater]

We don't talk about it because we don't want it to get nerfed, so shhhhh

[rain meadow]

kinetic resonance is lowkay amazing

dumping like 5 brain ruptures into a monstrosity is just

so satisfying

idk

[tacit stump]

especially with shriek

[marble crater]

Do you not have toughness problems with that?

[rain meadow]

i debated for ages on preilous combustion vs wildfire, and in the end, decided wildfire was just better

[rain meadow]

ud think so, but no

not usually

this is a maniacs psyker build tho

like, if you expect normal backline layed back psyker builds

this aint for u

[tacit stump]

i would maybe invest a point into quietude

[plucky flax]

My warp charge burga build

[marble crater]

Surely perilous is better than wildfire

[rain meadow]

its good

[rain meadow]

less stacks, and only on specific enemy types

[plucky flax]

On soulblaze build you should take both.

Trust me I am top 1%.

[marble crater]

Perilous is 3 stacks on everything
Wildfire is 4 stacks shared among everything

[tacit stump]

soublaze make maxium spread

[marble crater]

You are bottom 1%, as you are currently at the south pole

In which time zone are you anyway right now? I know things get a bit weird down there

[plucky flax]

I'm uh.. it's 1126am right now

4 hours behind uk time

[marble crater]

[rigid sky]

Perilous is better with more enemies around

Generates 3 stacks multiplied by number of enemies

[rigid sky]

Wildfire generates a total of 4 stacks, distributed among eligible nearby targets, after a bizarrely long delay

[rigid sky]

Yes, every nearby enemy gets 3

[rain meadow]

wildfire is a pretty substaintally damage boost against hordes

[rigid sky]

With Wildfire, up to 4 stacks total are distributed

[rain meadow]

which is nice

[rigid sky]

It's genuinely a lot weaker

[rain meadow]

nearby enemey each gain up to 4 stacks of soulblaze

[rigid sky]

Perilous Combustion is an almost always take, Wildfire is more marginal

[rain meadow]

it doesnt say it gets distributed

[marble crater]

No, the tooltip is wrong

[rigid sky]

Tooltip is buggered

[rain meadow]

this is not my fault

🤷

[marble crater]

It also says up to

[rigid sky]

Just like how rampage increases power, not damage

Like I want to like Wildfire

And I even use it on my Blaze trauma

But it's less good than it pretends to be by a long way

[rain meadow]

in that case, yes, perilous might be stronger

[rigid sky]

It's the quintessential psyker trap node

[rain meadow]

although, there is also the question of
do i just take quietude?

[rigid sky]

Always take quietitude

[rain meadow]

i PROBABLY dont need it?

[rigid sky]

And probably take soulstealer

[rain meadow]

so this?

[marble crater]

Wildfire on Blaze Trauma good
Wildfire on Purgatus is not needed, because you stack so much of it so quickly.
Take PC instead and quietude instead of the one that gives toughness for peril gained

[rigid sky]

And probably mettle and perfect timing

[rain meadow]

soulstealer i already have

[rigid sky]

Drop battle meditation

It is dogshit for a Shriek build

Well

[rain meadow]

i refuse

[haughty star]

this poor thing lol

[rigid sky]

It's dogshit for most builds except for like scrier's Gaze and maybe EP smite

[rain meadow]

the alternative is perilous combustion, which i feel is not as strong with as much aoe as I have

[rigid sky]

Which weapon are you using

PC is way better than it looks tbh

[rain meadow]

this build is partially focused around me almost never needing to manually quell

[haughty star]

perilous is literally always worth it

[rigid sky]

Embrace the quell

[haughty star]

and meditation hardly does anything

[rain meadow]

i know they aint perfect, but its what ive got

[rigid sky]

OK, definitely do not take battle med

All it will do is fuck up your Venting shrieks

[rain meadow]

(both have GARBAGE quell speed)

[haughty star]

it will not fuck up ventin shriek as it does literally nothing

[rigid sky]

You are warp charges + purgatus

[rigid sky]

You can spam shrieks

[rain meadow]

yus

[haughty star]

not meaningful enough to help but also hurt lol

[marble crater]

Soulstealer or KR instead of Wildfire

[haughty star]

perilous instead of med

[rain meadow]

so, what, do this?

[haughty star]

yes

you may not realize it but pc is one of the strongest perks in the whole game lol

[rain meadow]

i cant be bothered with building crit

[haughty star]

wildfire is also fairly worthless but we don't have to get into that

[marble crater]

Mettle and Perfect timing instead of Soulstealer and Warp Expen, imo

[haughty star]

is rending shockwave only a grade 3 perk like the flamey one?

[rain meadow]

then id have to go about actually building a crit flame staff and frankly i just dont have the materials

[marble crater]

There is a t4

[haughty star]

is t3 useable as seen on this guy?

[marble crater]

What does your purgatus have then if not crit?

[rain meadow]

look at my screenshot farther up

the answer is literally nothing lmao

[rigid sky]

You want nexus at least

All the crit you really need

Crit chance is a nice perk too

[marble crater]

Why?

[rain meadow]

dont need it XD

[rigid sky]

Only rending trauma is not a crit build

[rain meadow]

double soulblaze stacks is nice, but the cap is the same with or without it

most ergular enemies die beofre it would matter anyways

[marble crater]

Crits on purgatus apply 2 stacks of soulblaze instead of 1 and flak will boost your damage against almost everything by 25%

[haughty star]

yes we don't build for the ads lol

we build for elite killing

[rain meadow]

counterpoint: i have brain rupture and a force sword

[marble crater]

Probably, I don't play rending

[rain meadow]

elites are covered

[haughty star]

i'm told it's really good for just throwing on a build

like no build expression towards it. i want it for my shield ep bb build

[rain meadow]

my purg staff

my force sword

[haughty star]

oof that quell is garbagio

[rain meadow]

i did say that

XD

[haughty star]

i wouldn't even waste the plasteel on upgrading that quell is p important

[rain meadow]

not really, my solution is just
take battle meditation
problem solved

[marble crater]

Damage and warp resistance are least important for purgatus

[haughty star]

not really lol

[rain meadow]

purg really doesnt build peril that quickly

[marble crater]

Which is why it's least important

[haughty star]

battle med is hardly meaningful

quell helps you edge

[rain meadow]

and with how MANY enemies you tend to kill with it, battle meditation is legit not terrible

itll proc fairly consistently throughout a fight

it also kinda makes ceeping flames shriek even stronger?

[haughty star]

deffo not worth it over perilous in the last regard lol

[rain meadow]

cause most of the time the kills from shriek will proc an additional 10-40% quell

so ill meet you half way

[marble crater]

If you rely that much on BM, why wouldn't you take quietude then?

[rain meadow]

over warp expenditure? idk

[marble crater]

It's twice as good as warp expen

[haughty star]

yeah WE is legit terrible

[rain meadow]

ive tried both, they feel about the same tbh

atleast on this build

[haughty star]

they are not the same. we is 2.5 per 10 percent

quietide is 5 and you quell off alot faster than you generate

well

[rain meadow]

yeah, but you must gain peril FIRST before you can quell it

if you die on high peril and didnt get the chance to quell...

[haughty star]

gaining peril is easy

[rain meadow]

yes

[haughty star]

the chance to quell? it's like one second

[rain meadow]

easier than quelling it

[rain meadow]

34% quell speed

i remind you

[haughty star]

bro like erryone here plays on AD and we just tryna help you understand what's worthless and what's not lol

[rain meadow]

granted, it means shout also gives me toughness

which i guess is pretty cool

[rain meadow]

im aware

and i AM modifying my build based on what has been said

[haughty star]

take it or leave it but most of the opinions that the masses share here are objectively correct. this isn't borderlands there's hardly any build expression

[rain meadow]

im keeping battle meditation

you can pry it from my cold dead hands

[haughty star]

that's fine just don't take perilous away for it lol

[rain meadow]

and even then i will have glued it to my cold dead hands

-soldier tf2

[haughty star]

if anything remove WF cuz it's straight garbage

[marble crater]

Once you get a staff with more quell speed, you will notice that you don't need BM and can change that as well

[rain meadow]

WF?

[haughty star]

wildfire

quell speed is so exponential on staves

[rain meadow]

its gone

[tiny oracle]

i feel like wildfire needs a buff

[haughty star]

isn't the diff between a 60 percent and a 80 percen surge like 2. something seconds to empty?

[rain meadow]

just make it spread it to ALL enemies instead of dividing between them

[tiny oracle]

that might be a little too strong

[haughty star]

i have nothing to complain about there tbh

[rain meadow]

shrug lower the cap to 2

[tiny oracle]

i would rather it applied all 4 stacks, however cap the targets instead

[marble crater]

No idea, for numbers you need to ask other people. I just now that quell speed scales very high and is important, unlike warp resistance

[tiny oracle]

maybe one wildfire can give up to 4 targets 4 stacks each

[rain meadow]

its not optimal, im aware, but
its VERY fun

[haughty star]

if you can shake off two points somewhere to get to the warp damage on crit perk it will be much more succesful for you but i don't think you're gonna do that with brain burst

or bm

[rain meadow]

i could lose kinetic deflection for it

[marble crater]

It's 4 stacks shared among the targets, so more like 4 with 1 stack each

[haughty star]

never lose KD

KD makes you as strong as a shield ogryn lol

[tiny oracle]

i just got a notification of event tier 1 complete, what event is this and is there anywhere i can see progress on it?

[haughty star]

press tab and cycle with e

[rain meadow]

generally agree, although
with brainrupture and purg staff blocking is slightly less valuable

[marble crater]

Nevermind, you are talking about buffing it

[tiny oracle]

i was more contemplating a potential buff as its useless in the current state

[marble crater]

Yeah saw it too late

[haughty star]

it's just too much of a reliable get the boss off me method

psyker dies really fekking fast to bosses and KD saves you from that fate

[tiny oracle]

one guy said to apply all 4 stacks to all targets and that would be way too strong imo

[rain meadow]

id be ok with giving it a MUCH (like, idk, 20 meters?) larger range, making it lowering the cap to 2 stacks, but applying those 2 stacks to EVERYTHING in 20 meters

let the soulblaze spread
like wildfire

[tiny oracle]

2 stacks dont really do much thats the thing

[marble crater]

Yeah, that would be OP and just wipe the entire map

[rain meadow]

sure, but when its applied to EVERY ENEMY in a 20 meter radius on EVERY soulblaze kill

[haughty star]

it's really tiny

like 5/s

[tiny oracle]

soulblaze does not stack in its current state

basicly if someone already has 4 stacks, soulblaze can not give it 4 more

[rain meadow]

yeah but
it stacks
killing 3 enemies would just KILL every pox walker in a 20 meter radius

[tiny oracle]

atleast thats how i understand it

[rain meadow]

and that would be FUCKING HILARIOUS

[haughty star]

wildfire don't stack

perilous does

[rain meadow]

it SHOULD

id add that too i guess

[haughty star]

that would be so OP lol

[rain meadow]

i mean, kinda?

[tiny oracle]

btw is there a way i can see progress on the current event going on?

[rain meadow]

but also purg staff does the same thing anyways

[marble crater]

Tab and switch the menus, the button you press to look at your melk missions or missions

I don't know which button it is on PC

[rain meadow]

theres something about kinetic resonance + venting shriek that just feels so right, idk

[haughty star]

i answered right below yo question above lol

[tiny oracle]

sorry must have missed it between the other chatter

[haughty star]

yes but imagine gun lol

[haughty star]

i'm almost to the 4500 plasteel tieer

[rain meadow]

a) wildfire should be able to stack up to the games global soulblaze cap of 31, given multiple procs
b) give it a MASSIVE radius, but also reduce the stacks applied significantly
make it apply to all enemies in the radius

let it actually BE wilfire