#psyker-class

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hardy raft
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anyhoo.

upper galleon
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surge uhh

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not really

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it doesn't outcompete void except maybe in individual targets dps since it can charge faster

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but void gets the surge blessing

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which doubles the shot on crit

hardy raft
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๐Ÿ‘

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i meant

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like dealing half the damage sometimes

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was the limb gimmick fixed

potent echo
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Smite EP ๐ŸŽ’

upper galleon
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limb gimmick was fixed a while ago

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always hits chest now

hardy raft
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cool

upper sun
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ive seen many smite creeping flames only psykers with A.S.S.

potent echo
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Wait huh really KEKW_ogryn

upper galleon
potent echo
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I guess 10% is so smol I can't really feel it

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I didn't see no debuffs for the indicator

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But maybe because they aren't hooked

upper sun
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no they were just very thicc

potent echo
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ASS

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Huge

upper galleon
jovial juniper
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Surge leaves some shock effect but they cause no damage

hardy raft
hardy raft
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i spread the information

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anyway idk

upper sun
hardy raft
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i heard it from a betatester

upper galleon
potent echo
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Sounds fake but can't test KEKW_ogryn

upper galleon
hardy raft
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saul electricity gives 10% brittleness

hardy raft
potent echo
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Saul should do more funny stuff like

upper sun
potent echo
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Slow animations by 20%

hardy raft
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except he throws wild dumb opinions

potent echo
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Double confirmed by the guy selling noodles out of a pushcart KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
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i saw a posted note in a trashbin also confirming it

hardy raft
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"yeah guy smokes weed and says EP smite is bad but he might be right on this info"

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not true on the weed part but you get what i mean

upper sun
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"my plug said you can melee through walls"

hardy raft
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anyways

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someone please test

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cause saul special gives a brand new dot effect, shock

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and electric for smite/saul electricity

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and idk what they even do

potent echo
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A dot that doesn't do damage KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
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i dont think it would work but im sure fatshark will reuse enough variables for it to function that way

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SMITE STAFF
+1 SMITE JUMPS

potent echo
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They cleaned that up at least

hardy raft
upper sun
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it wasnt even that good

hardy raft
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imcwaiting for brainburst staff

upper sun
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what was it?

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like 10 damage?

potent echo
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It doubled surge dps though KEKW_ogryn

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Not double?

upper sun
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im pretty sure it was very very low

potent echo
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Two full damages

upper sun
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๐Ÿค”

potent echo
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KEKW_ogryn well

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Can't test it now anymore, I'm probably wrong though

analog agate
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@lethal lagoon The meme staff exists!

potent echo
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Can you try to see the circle size in psyk? The patch did change the circle size to match with aoe KEKW_ogryn

analog agate
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Larger is 79 vs smaller is 32

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But this is a lmb staff all day long

ocean cipher
analog agate
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Yes

ocean cipher
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hows this look

upper sun
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really good

lethal lagoon
ocean cipher
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wait i just realized thats a maxroll

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380

lethal lagoon
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At least you'll have a near perfect meta staff for a couple months

upper sun
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blazing spirit 3 for sustained fire and crit for elites and you're rocking

ocean cipher
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not warp flurry?

lethal lagoon
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No

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Blazing spirit nexus i.e "Blaze Trauma" is OP as fuck

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And you have basically a perfect one

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Because the only perk options are Flak + 5% crit chance

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2 crits will kill all non-elites in this white circle

upper sun
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@ocean cipher

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you already have nexus and flak

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put crit and blazing on it and its a great fire stick

hollow jolt
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Purg better UwU

lethal lagoon
ocean cipher
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hell yeah so ig i just need blaze

upper sun
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purge is fun FUN

lethal lagoon
upper sun
pine shore
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Is obscurus good?

hollow jolt
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God I made that mistake once

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So much plasteel Sitgryn

upper sun
ocean cipher
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whatre some fun builds to run with that trauma staff

pine shore
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Like, it is better than other force swords? What do I even use it for?

hollow jolt
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Oh right the Obscurus got changed

upper sun
hollow jolt
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I recall it being worse Deimos but idk anymore

upper sun
analog agate
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It's fun too ๐Ÿ˜„

pine shore
potent echo
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Deimos still gets CC and damage in H2

ocean cipher
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why brain burst

upper sun
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i usually do soulstealer instead of kd depending on the map

potent echo
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Obscurus H1 has a stagger buff but idk if it throws crusher around

upper sun
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though BB isnt great boss damage with KF

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sucks that we cant afford it on trauma

ocean cipher
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oh fuck i just realized

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this build

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is so

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much

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fire

upper sun
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yes chadgryn

ocean cipher
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what melee should i use

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thinking just illissi

gilded viper
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What's good to use on the shock mauls

potent echo
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I would take a single target melee because trauma is already CC

gilded viper
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and which shock maul

potent echo
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Lightning reflexes if you love funky stuff

gilded viper
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What's the difference between the 2 makes?

potent echo
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Either is fine it's a combo difference

fathom totem
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Also seen people run Skullcrusher/hammerblow

potent echo
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See which one you vibe with more

fathom totem
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I have yet to roll a good one to play with.

gilded viper
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Think I enjoy the indignatus more

potent echo
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I use that too

ocean cipher
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in that case what are the best single target melee options

gilded viper
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Deimos

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Light 1 into heavy 2 can kill anything and stagger anything it doesnt kill

ocean cipher
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actually wait

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now that i think baout it

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what can deimos kill that bb cant

gilded viper
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Deimos is faster and doesn't really use peril, safe in melee

ocean cipher
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wouldnt i use peril to charge it

pine shore
gilded viper
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no you don't really ever need to charge deimos

spice veldt
gilded viper
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You can

ocean cipher
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but that what trauma is for lol

spice veldt
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use normals on the deimos and call it a day

gilded viper
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There's goona be situations your staff wont be safe to use

pine shore
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Don't use special on deimos

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It's bad

spice veldt
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heavy does 2x damage than normal heavies, and i don't know what the light is nowadays

gilded viper
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Deimos has amazing single target and the supreme force sword push attack

ocean cipher
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ok so deimos and trauma

spice veldt
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there's also the duelling sword mk4 (and ds2 now that the heavy1 got bumped up, just reading the patch notes)

ocean cipher
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on deimos i want kinetic deflection and what else

gilded viper
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Slaughterer or Uncanny Strike

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Or avoid deflection and just take those 2 if you want to all in on damage

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bubble shield works great

hearty oak
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Yeah deflection is what you take when you are more close ranged focused

ocean cipher
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im using venting shriek on this build, tho bubble shield sounds fun

lean frost
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as a new psyker, what trinkets do i use?

hearty oak
ocean cipher
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does the build still work with bubble?

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or do i need my venting shriek

hearty oak
lean frost
ocean cipher
hearty oak
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I take more health just cause

potent echo
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I actually think I might take off sniper now KEKW_ogryn

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I've become a 3x combat ability CD main

ocean cipher
lean frost
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what is this blazing trama everyone is talking about?

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the fire staff?

ocean cipher
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no blazing trauma

potent echo
ocean cipher
lean frost
ocean cipher
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  • itd let me not have to run deflect on sword
ocean cipher
lean frost
ocean cipher
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is for trauma force staff

lean frost
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is that the best staff?

analog agate
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Run the build I showed

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It is the blaze trauma build

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It is what I run

lean frost
stiff falcon
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@steel spire

analog agate
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Oh sry lug. I was talking to Rok. I linked him a build 30 min ago

lean frost
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what primary should i use?

analog agate
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In general?

lean frost
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yeh

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like sword, gun

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the first slot

analog agate
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Blaze trauma is psyker's best staff build. Columnus is best gun for gun psyker. Pygex was saying bolt pistol actually isn't too bad either if you use warp battery + the bleed shot on it

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You want to do staff or gun?

lean frost
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staff

potent echo
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Laspistol is great too

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With ghost it fits well on EP gunkers

analog agate
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If you want to be a rolling barrage do trauma. Either a trauma with rending/flurry/maniac/flak or blaze trauma with blaze/nexus/flak/crit chance. If you want palpatine do surge with nexus/flurry/flak/elite

potent echo
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If you want scoreboard top you use void KEKW_ogryn

analog agate
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Void strike with surge/nexus (or flurry)/carapace/maniac (or unyielding)

lean frost
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what about purge staff?

potent echo
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Purge is great but it's very one dimensional

analog agate
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purg staff flurry/nexus/flak/crit chance or maniac or unyielding

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And you can also do the same build I linked 30 min ago for purg staff

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Though wildfire not really needed for purg

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Could change that to warp stealer

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This is the pure dmg build. Purg could also do bubble as well

brazen rampart
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Weapon customization broke bolt pistols...

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I can't even draw one without the game doing an instant ctd.

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Very sad.

gilded viper
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So what's this about smite applying a debuff now?

cosmic sigil
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god damn bro

broken carbon
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other than that, deimos

hearty oak
upper sun
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ladies and gets we've got em

hearty oak
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In the trash

upper sun
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so tru

hearty oak
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why live if its not the perfect 380

upper sun
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btw who said thrust was bad

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its a free 20-40% power increase for FREE on each swing

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it stacks so fast

analog agate
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Thrust is inferior to sc on it

upper sun
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nuh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

hardy raft
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scullcrusher gets 80% damage for rree

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since ogryn

upper sun
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u can have both

hardy raft
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maybe have slaughterer instead

upper sun
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i have a free blessing slot chadgryn

potent echo
lethal lagoon
upper sun
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no i got tested

lethal lagoon
potent echo
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Thrust makes you swing twice as slow

upper sun
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nuh uhh

potent echo
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Which kinda makes it a dpsloss already

analog agate
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He changed it to unarmored and flak

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That is for blessings though

upper sun
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swinging as soon as the heavy charges gives you minimum 1 thrust stack

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it stacks way faster than hammer and ogryn shovel

potent echo
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Do a simple dps test on a crusher then loregryn

upper sun
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i only have thrust 4 unlocked

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yes i rolled it twice

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AAAAAAAAAAAA STOP GIVING ME THE MISSION QUICKPLAY FUCK ME

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CAN I BLOCK EVERYONE WHO PLAYS IT

analog agate
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I stopped doing quickplay because of that

potent echo
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What's wrong with QP KEKW_ogryn

analog agate
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New mission non stop

potent echo
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It's the fastest plasteel farm imo

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So short of people know what's up, which they rarely do though

analog agate
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I have 400k. Im good on plasteel

potent echo
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True

analog agate
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First bit is annoying for me. Stairs and trauma goes through so many grates

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In event as well

potent echo
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Haven't had the pleasure of using a trauma there yet

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I barreled some guy yesterday

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Am I Arco-core now

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He was a plasma psword vet

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So I agree chadgryn

stiff falcon
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same with smykers

potent echo
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That was me

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I should have joined him ๐Ÿ˜”

upper sun
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welp

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they fixed spawns

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got mogged with some 20-30 ragers with no ammo and no ult staregryn

supple dock
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love it

upper sun
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bruh a rager pack that big has to have a warning or smthin

cosmic sigil
supple dock
spice veldt
upper sun
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some zealot is cheesing my vigil station

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i hope they make invocation of death increase cooldown

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he was already at the elevator while we dealt with the entire map

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nah i cleared then died to a dh

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now ill just afk while people play the game for me

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for 10 minutes

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nah im died

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i respawned after elevator

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my team hasnt reached it and theres an afk zealot 5 rooms ahead

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easy 450 plasteel

stiff falcon
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Leave them to die

potent echo
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New map has alot of elites

stiff falcon
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Reasonable spawns

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Just, not many specials

supple dock
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ELITES?

stiff falcon
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@abstract arch

wide maple
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Any tips? I'm doing it while working on assail and its so slow

broken carbon
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faster and more reliable special snipes

upper sun
wide maple
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I'll do that when I finish the others

tired estuary
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I wonder if they ever fixed surge kills with EP stacked as counting for that penance

wide maple
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btw, did they make enemies stronger?

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I feel like I'm taking so much damage even with the max toughness damage reduction psyker can get

upper sun
tacit stump
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i as a psyker make peril cycles with blitz and staffs beside gunpsyker there i use scriers gaze or smite for that

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weird that i use peril as a thoughnes generator

oak plover
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Definitely what my Psyker needed lol wtf nearly a perfect

oak plover
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Though scriers does do crazy good damage, but I do pretty good damage as is. Kill all the blue guys!

tacit stump
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i use personally the deimos force sword instead the mk4 duelist sword

oak plover
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It is very good too esp for knocking over crushers

tacit stump
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funny knocking down crushers

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i wouldn't mind a force dagger

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maybe with illisi cleave and moveset of the mk6 dagger

oak plover
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I just stagger them with the duel, but yes the force sword is very good too. The alternate attack is totally useless though and the stagger range is great with the dueling sword. Daggers aren't bad for Psykers either if you use the bleed 4. I like my las pistol with dum dum and infernus 4 paired with a bleed 4 knife. Works very well. Everything is on fire, bleeding, or getting assailed.

tacit stump
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or mk3 with the deimos/obscurus dissharge

oak plover
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Fire and bleed can stack together too

tacit stump
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soulblaze can that stack with others

oak plover
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Yep and you can get that too

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The trash melter

tacit stump
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looks at my ignis build stupid horde clear with brainbursting specials

oak plover
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I usually top or come in 2nd with my assail bubble build. Works great. I prefer it than my VoC vet honestly because it kills all the gunners and you get bubble. Nothing beats that.

tacit stump
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assail is my main build as psyker

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smite i use only with guns

oak plover
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Yeah it's by far the best. When brain burst is a revolver or las pistol to the head anyway, forget it lol

tacit stump
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beside the time i did the penance

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there i smited every horde

oak plover
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The damage with scriers is HUGE though and also works great with the las pistol with dumdum and infernus, but assail still has the better utility. You lose maybe 30% damage is my guess, but you gain so much more with bubble.

stiff falcon
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Specialists and disablers is the weight you need to carry

tacit stump
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i use it with las infantry ia or agrapina auto gun

tacit stump
oak plover
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Yeah, I view my Psyker as the guy who kills all the trash mobs and specialists at this point. I play him like my Veteran and Zealot now tbh. He gets that bubble too which is godtier.

tacit stump
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high priority targets

stiff falcon
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Smite means you donโ€™t have assail, which means you are highly unlikely to be managing ammo

tacit stump
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i love personally the voidstrike staff but i would like a beam staff

oak plover
tacit stump
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idk why but i preffer the heavier las pistol

oak plover
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Yeah that's what I use

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Revolver or las pistol is all I'll use honestly. Full-auto is alright, but it just isn't for me.

sacred crane
hearty dagger
stiff falcon
hearty dagger
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Hence wannabe

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Can't even play like an asshole properly

stiff falcon
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Spam 1 while running

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And holding heavy

potent echo
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Spam1?

stiff falcon
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Yeah

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The 1 key on the keyboard

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Holds the heavy attack meaning you move faster

potent echo
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Huh that's a thing?

stiff falcon
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Yeah

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Speedrunning techniques

potent echo
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If you spam 1 you hold on to the heavy forever?

stiff falcon
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Yeah

potent echo
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Defuck KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
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1 as in the button to swap to melee?

stiff falcon
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Yeah

lethal lagoon
potent echo
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Time to try later

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Inb4 I'm getting scammed

lethal lagoon
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Where did I miss this one

upper sun
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what

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have you been using q to swap only?

lethal lagoon
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No?

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Did you do the thing again?

upper sun
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did you?

lethal lagoon
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Unlikely

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I can only stupid once per conversation, and I've already been stupid.

upper sun
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maybe you were stupid about the number of times you've been stupid this convo

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maybe its -1

lethal lagoon
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That's a paradox

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Does the barber shave himself if he only shaves people who don't shave themselves?

upper sun
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yeah he does

lethal lagoon
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But he only shaves people who don't shave themselves.

upper sun
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its a stupid ass paradox made by people who have never gotten haircuts

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bro stop studying set theory and go take a shower

lethal lagoon
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TBF, people studying set theory probably aren't the get a haricut type

upper sun
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uhhhh ๐Ÿค“ does a set containing all sets contain itself?!?!?!?!?!

lethal lagoon
upper sun
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this has never helped anyone grow more food

lethal lagoon
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Actually, white collar jobs are why we can grow more food.

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When China discovered new agricultural methods they would destroy them so that peasents wouldn't lose their jobs.

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But now we have lots of jobs

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๐Ÿ™‚

hearty dagger
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Fellas, 1, 2 or 3?

potent echo
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Maths staregryn

lethal lagoon
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1 probably clips

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But it does look better

potent echo
hearty dagger
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1 or 3 have the same rebreather but one has a collar and the 3rd has that one thing

hearty dagger
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Me when bro blind

oak plover
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Yeah very minor. I need to install for the drip. Just lazy since it isn't Vortex easy mode

lethal lagoon
hearty dagger
lethal lagoon
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When you run in 3rd person

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Your baldss head should clip

oak plover
hearty dagger
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...That's not modded.

oak plover
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Oh lol

hearty dagger
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Bro thought vanilla was modded

hearty dagger
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Doesn't clip

tacit stump
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thats how my psyker looks

hearty dagger
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not a big fan of the ๐Ÿ’€ helmet honestly

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Just wish it had the face mask thing that zealot's skull masks have

tacit stump
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thats a mask not a helmet

hearty dagger
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I will call it a helmet regardless and there's not a thing anyone here can do to prevent me from doing so.

tacit stump
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i would throw the book which is bound to the zealots helmet at you

hearty dagger
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You would

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But you can't

dense valley
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anyone got desynced to hell

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literally cant play

tacit stump
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the biggest d move i could do would be ingame being a asshole to you in not helping you and shoot poxbursters and barrels near you, but that would be just silly bs

compact crane
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How do I make this better. Specialist ranged damage to flak?

lethal lagoon
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So flak/maniac or flak/carpace

compact crane
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Thanks!

lethal lagoon
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The Blazing Spirit + Nexus blessing Trauma is generally considered superior, but this one is still good.
For that staff, if you want to roll it, you need to roll 2/4 requirements, so flak, 5% crit chance, nexus, and blazing spirit.

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With high charge rate and blast radius.

plucky flax
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Ewww blaze trauma

summer prairie
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I guess scrier's gaze is getting a modifier that sets casting peril costs to 0 while it's active, that might make it competitive. Might be part of a bigger overhaul though

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I think they are making the tree (s?) more interesting in general

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Who would take this though "Peril Explosions no longer knock you down" "

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I guess the explosion damage can be cute

quartz barn
marble crater
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Gaze is already competitive

summer prairie
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not for non-gun builds

quartz barn
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It still is?

lunar hollow
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there's stuff like peril adding cleave, looks like some of it is vt2 unchained inspired

quartz barn
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No longer knocking you down would also allow you to further spam staffs like purg

near wyvern
summer prairie
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if it's a node you just path through it's fine

quartz barn
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Would prob be most effective on illissi since youre already in range for the explosion to hit

summer prairie
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viable but I don't think it's ever more damage and for much more effort

quartz barn
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Ye my main gripe would be dmg bonus from nexus vs resetting your peril over and over for a flat explosion dmg spike every 30? Sec

near wyvern
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I want to like the new shotgun but there is just really nothing that the bolt pistol doesn't do better

spice veldt
quartz barn
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Ye :/

near wyvern
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I mean you can get mutant one shots with the shotgun but you really need to push the buffs (full battery) where if you want a mutant one shot you could just wield a Deimos

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Especially since they have to be really close to you to get it

spice veldt
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melee is going to be pretty undisputed against muties vs ranged anyways

quartz barn
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Dmg vs monsters was pretty underwhelming too

near wyvern
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Bolt pistol 3 taps mutants to that's decent cause you can do that across the map

near wyvern
quartz barn
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Yup, i expected it to be the most effective against them because, you know, big close range hit

near wyvern
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Imagine if it would do bleed per pellet hit

spice veldt
quartz barn
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Idk why the tradeoff isnt there, overkill on close range but no long range offense

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Which would still make it bad overall, just more effective at what its literally supposed to do

summer prairie
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maybe you'll get sb per pellet hit with the new passive, surely

quartz barn
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It should always onetap stuff like mutants

spice veldt
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that is a pretty plausible bug

lunar hollow
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i dont think we'll get any more applies-per-hitzone shenanigans

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do not hold me to this in 3 months

spice veldt
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maybe it's onslaught only
maybe they'll just forgor

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going into the jar

near wyvern
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My Obscurus is 6 damage off from mutant H1 oneshot at 6 warp charges ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

lyric burrow
near wyvern
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But no

summer prairie
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I wonder how the chain lightning on heavy hits is going to work, is it going to like stun nearby targets for a bit

compact cargo
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Spark heads, it's back

spice veldt
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seems like trapper just hit you while you were in PotW

summer prairie
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might just be for the enfeeble damage buff

near wyvern
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@patent wing I can open bulwaks without lethal proximity on bolt pistol when using ADS, it seems to stagger more and allow you to fire faster

spice veldt
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chain lightning on cleaving heavies hmm

near wyvern
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@patent wing no wait, it seems to be where you aim, you have to aim at the "arm" holding the shield

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Yup got it, ADS and aim at the arm to open them up without lethal proximity, mine takes 4 shots

patent wing
near wyvern
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Still waste of ammo tho

near wyvern
patent wing
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ahh yes yes

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without not possible at all

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but im not sure about the arm, never noticed it

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just that you need 4 if you are without range

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so lethal proximity only buffs near explosions

near wyvern
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@patent wing no explosion talent and still opening it up
Lethal proximity seems to do two things:

  • it increases the explosion radius making the bullets hit the arm behind the shield even on hip fire
  • it applies a secondary explosion on kill, creating negligible damage but strong stagger in around 5m radius

https://streamable.com/xkzg99

Watch "bulwark open" on Streamable.

โ–ถ Play video
potent echo
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They alr did a forgor this patch

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Zealot no longer get more than one instance of cdr per crit swing

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But psykers get 5 perfect timings per shot/swing KEKW_ogryn

near wyvern
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you have to give and take KEKW_ogryn

patent wing
near wyvern
patent wing
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close range*

near wyvern
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And as you can see in the video you can open them up quite far away if you just aim down the sights

near wyvern
patent wing
#

yes i do think so

near wyvern
#

The description is a lie

patent wing
#

i have a gun with it, and can open up bulwarks with 3 shots on close range, but need 4 on high range

summer prairie
#

which talent is this

near wyvern
near wyvern
patent wing
#

im recording a vid brb

potent echo
#

Inb4 ads mode gives extra stagger or vice versa

patent wing
#

oh btw thanks for your psyker guide. helped me alot when i was starting

#

seems like i was wrong

#

3 shots on distance ๐Ÿ’€

near wyvern
#

So it is confirmed then, the shot count is weapon dependant and lethal proximity description is a lie, it has nothing to do with near shots. The real description should be:

  • increases explosion radius by X
  • kills explode the target causing it to do minor damage but strong stagger around a 5m radius of the killed target
#

@summer prairie can you find anything like the above from the scripts?

summer prairie
#

I gave up on understanding what explosion_arming_distance is

near wyvern
#

rip

#

Knowing Fatshark it's probably how much the user farts when squeezing the trigger

patent wing
#

i just placed some poxwalkers around the bulwark

#

LP explosions dont open them up

patent wing
near wyvern
# patent wing LP explosions dont open them up

Check what happens when you put ranged units or trash near each other and you kill one with an without LP.

When you don't have LP, they might suppress on the kill or not. When you have LP they take some minor damage and fumble away.

patent wing
#

cant see a diff

spice veldt
#

at least the name sounds like it's the distance beyond which bolt weapons will arm (explode on kill)

summer prairie
#

well the only things the blessing does is set explosion_arming_distance_multiplier to 0 and changes the radius separately

potent echo
#

It should make the arming distance zero but is it ever applied

patent wing
spice veldt
#

what does it look like with healthbars on

#

do they take damage w/ or without lethal proximity?

patent wing
#

healthbars dont work on spawned trash units with guns xd

potent echo
#

You need the healthbar mod

patent wing
#

i have it

potent echo
#

Or does that not work too

#

Another thing is healthbars stop working once you bring up any form to UI/HUD

#

So you need to spawn them after adjusting

patent wing
#

but all other enmies have bars

potent echo
#

You tweaked the healthbar mod to show health on all enemies?

patent wing
hearty dagger
#

Guys

#

We need to find Nardwaur in 40k and make him interview Swagger

#

We'll find out everything about him

patent wing
#

me casually spamming the discord servers

hearty dagger
#

Every time i see a UI mod i become genuinely bamboozled

potent echo
# patent wing

Doesn't seem like any difference in damage or stagger or suppression

near wyvern
#

if you watch that clip you can see there is at least some difference with and without, although very minor

hearty dagger
#

Does puncture also count for the explosion damage or is it direct only btw?

near wyvern
#

as such I recommend the extra damage versus staggered enemy to increase the damage of follow up shots, LP does very little

near wyvern
hearty dagger
#

I see

near wyvern
#

but Punctgure is BiS for sure

#

for bolt pistol

#

actually matters for break points

hearty dagger
#

So what would a good bolt pistol have?

#

Puncture/?

near wyvern
#

the extra damge versus staggered enemies allows you to get away with not having +flak on the gun

patent wing
#

maybe its the push distance or just the explosion radius

hardy raft
near wyvern
#

but flak is not mandatory and execution is fine at T3

near wyvern
potent echo
#

From using bled boltpistol 3 games on psyker, it kinda does, esp at range

hardy raft
#

sure why not

potent echo
#

Two shot bodyshot scab gunners

hardy raft
#

it'll help my mood about malding about zealot nerfs

hearty dagger
#

Would Deadly Accurate also work? I like having it for extra boss damage

potent echo
#

I don't like it because boltpistol crit modifier isn't that good

#

A bodyshot vs a critheadshot is only 0.5x

near wyvern
potent echo
#

For some armor types

near wyvern
#

so even when it has surgical & deadly accurate which would encourage you to go into that crit head shot world it will not be worth it

potent echo
#

Going crit might be a trap, embrace bodyshot bleed

near wyvern
potent echo
#

You are punished less for missing heads on terrible ironsights

#

If you wanted a surgical gun agripvolvo is probably better

#

Zaronavolvo definitely

hardy raft
#

agri with surgical is cursed

patent wing
#

is this with exedcuition?

#

so we conclude that LP is kinda useless because all it can do is open up bulwarks with 1 shot less + close range cc

potent echo
#

I've read someone like bleed with surgical

#

But bleed with X seems to be the way to go

near wyvern
patent wing
#

imagine ppl that are not in this discord grind for it and spend tons of mats and then it just sucks ๐Ÿ’€

near wyvern
# potent echo I've read someone like bleed with surgical

surgical has a couple problems:

  • you have to sit in ADS and hold it, not good for awareness
  • bolt pistol is very sensitive to any type of supression so you can easily miss your shot
  • the critical multiplier is not that great, resulting in very little damage and huge DPS loss
#

if it had a perk like hand cannon (rending on crit) then one could build a bolt pistol for crushers but it doesn't have one so that's it

potent echo
#

I agree, I would rather take run and gun than surgical

patent wing
#

execution + puncture | maniac + cara (6 shots vs crusher instead of 8)

near wyvern
#

that's why for zarona you can use surgical & hand cannon because when you hold and wait you actually deal comparable DPS just a lot more ammo efficiently against crushers, and it can cleave through many targets making the "lining up a perfect shot" worth it

near wyvern
patent wing
radiant frigate
#

thinking about trying out the new and improved obscurususususus

patent wing
#

but the difference to a pre-brittled crusher is one shot lol

near wyvern
# patent wing yeah sadly ur right. sometimes i think about taking a brittleness axe

Brittleness axe is not as good as it sounds. The combat axes have a high armour pen to begin with so the brittleness doesn't do that much for them.

It also doesn't last long enough so you could comfortably juggle in the heat of the battle and brittleness is half as effective than what it claims to be. (1% brittleness = 0.5% rending)

near wyvern
potent echo
patent wing
#

id like to have force daggers (dual) and scriers give me 100% movespeed and 100% attackspeed

radiant frigate
radiant frigate
#

i might actually pick it then

potent echo
radiant frigate
#

i did not

potent echo
#

Teasing new psyker melee synergies

#

Search syllo's posts, has:image

radiant frigate
#

more support for sword wizard please

fossil dune
#

does anyone have any good tips for perilous focus?

#

iโ€™m running columnus and force sword in high intensity hordes and still never reaching 40

near wyvern
radiant frigate
#

profit

near wyvern
#

EP assails also help but only throw if you have a stack during the gaze

#

I did mine with void + transfer peril though

fossil dune
#

okay iโ€™ll scrounge up an illisi and try this thank you both ๐Ÿ˜Œ

patent wing
patent wing
near wyvern
quartz barn
#

Dd is good in general

potent echo
patent wing
potent echo
#

Yea it's talent tree stuff

#

Playtesters probably hands on with it now or for some time already

#

Those are new lines that came with most recent patch

patent wing
#

maybe knife will have good horde clear with that

potent echo
#

Nah I'm just thinking how much more busted they gonna make ds4 KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
#

More soulblaze....

#

If buffing EP smite to 200% is anything to go by, the data and playstesters also show that creeping flames and PC needs a buff

vestal fulcrum
#

There is a certain tendency to be observed in how and what FS buffed re: blessings this patch

patent wing
#

i just want an illisi with stab only heavies

vestal fulcrum
#

Notably

#

Singular-tier blessings will have earlier tiers with the itemisation rework

#

WHICH MEANS

#

BS will have tier 4 equivalent

patent wing
#

i dont understand nothing

#

can you explain that in football terms

vestal fulcrum
#

Look: singular tier blessings in this patch got things added to them

patent wing
#

what are singular tier blessings

potent echo
#

Can't eat more than 3 poxbursters without going down

vestal fulcrum
#

Like Run and Gun got a visible Close damage boost

potent echo
#

No pee shield

vestal fulcrum
patent wing
#

instead of hiding them

vestal fulcrum
#

Yeah

#

There is a reason for it

potent echo
#

Oh

vestal fulcrum
#

Because Flechette on Ripper guns got nerfed to 4 from 8

potent echo
#

So tier 1 surge is just the same thing but with less crit chance

vestal fulcrum
#

With no context in the patch notes

#

FS is working on making it so ALL blessings have tiers 1-4

patent wing
#

but why are some talkin about buying tier 1-2 weapons

potent echo
#

Tier 5 chadgryn

#

Red weapons, 100% modifiers chadgryn

lethal lagoon
#

basically a legacy system

summer prairie
#

almost all of them already got the new tiers added, BS didn't though

lethal lagoon
#

So people are guessing having everying 1-2 tier blessing will add to that.

#

Personally, I see no reason in preping for the new patch

patent wing
#

ahhh

lethal lagoon
#

Just enjoy the progression

patent wing
#

brb have to buy all tier1 blessings

vestal fulcrum
#

Like, yeah. If you like the game, you like the game, thereโ€™s no need to min-max anything you will probably get eventually

vestal fulcrum
#

A wasted opportunity to make AgentChaos happy

summer prairie
#

focused channeling t4 gets 50% charging movement penalty reduction. Can you get that already?

vestal fulcrum
#

I donโ€™t think you can

#

But I donโ€™t have the mod that allows me to see all the blessings on all tiers

vestal fulcrum
#

I know Bloodthirsty level 3 is available for Force swords

quartz barn
#

Focussed channeling / run n gun assail staff when pogryn

summer prairie
#

blazing spirit

quartz barn
#

Sprint efficiency perk thumbsup_ogryn

radiant frigate
lunar hollow
#

ceaseless barrage ๐Ÿ˜ญ

vestal fulcrum
#

deserved

radiant frigate
#

not too fond of ceaseless barrage

#

i like to cease

vestal fulcrum
#

I mean, CB will probably also get a Lv4 version and it will be back to 6%

lunar hollow
#

yea

vestal fulcrum
#

the same will happen to say, Blaze Away

#

It wasn't nerfed because it's good, it was nerfed because it will have a T4 version

near wyvern
#

Interesting, so talent options for attack speed buffs, soulblaze on block and damage reduction based on nearby soulblazed enemies

quartz barn
#

Fs pls

near wyvern
#

Ranged shots soulblaze, we have been waiting for that since release

patent wing
#

whats the best strategy to farm materials? normal damnations?

summer prairie
#

there's DR for 3 seconds after applying SB and also DR from nearby soulblaze enemies, probably can't get both at once

near wyvern
marble crater
#

Also the best strategy for falling asleep Bed

patent wing
#

pulling out the speed zealot

radiant frigate
near wyvern
patent wing
#

HELL YEAH RENDING ON SPYKER

potent echo
#

Spy??!

radiant frigate
#

it could be you

#

it could be me

patent wing
#

new invis psyker

radiant frigate
#

scrier's gaze now turns you invisible, for improved scrying and gazing

vestal fulcrum
# quartz barn Fs pls

Well, they didnโ€™t finish whatever it is they wanted to achieve, so thereโ€™s that.

#

The buffs/nerfs are a smokescreen

summer prairie
#

soulblaze on block for the lowest effort DH killing

vestal fulcrum
#

Psykers holding block and standing in one place like shieldgryns

#

Itโ€™s bound to happen, mark my words

potent echo
#

Imagine if soulblaze on block worked on shooters and deflector

vestal fulcrum
potent echo
#

Deflector meta pogryn

summer prairie
#

probably give some minor unrelated buff to it

#

that scales

vestal fulcrum
#

They most definitely will not give it 1/2/3/4 additional swings per blessing level

#

Yeah, I could see that

summer prairie
#

also, surge t1 gives 2% crit, not a big deal

vestal fulcrum
#

Make it so lv 1-2 is +1 swing and sth else, and 3-4 is +2 swings + a bigger boon of whatever the buff is

potent echo
#

Heres a crazy theory

#

Power cycler 4 gives 2 swings at -10% power

#

Power cycler 3 gives 2 swings at -20% power

radiant frigate
#

the new and improved sunder looks fun

potent echo
#

Bring back cursings

vestal fulcrum
#

It would be one way to make PS less stupid

#

But I donโ€™t think they are willing to do that

potent echo
vestal fulcrum
#

Veteran chat would explode dogkek

potent echo
#

Kill bruisers lol

vestal fulcrum
#

The weapon has good damage profiles, so itโ€™s not a bad idea if you donโ€™t want to constantly power it

radiant frigate
#

the unpower sword is real??

vestal fulcrum
#

โ€œGoodโ€. You will likely have a bad time v Flak still

#

And not to mention Carapace

potent echo
#

Probably only scab bruisers

#

Maybe you even need stupid stuff like +unarmored I don't have details KEKW_ogryn

radiant frigate
#

i don't recall what i put on my unpower sword

#

slaughterer + something

marble crater
#

Unpower sword is agony, why bother

radiant frigate
radiant frigate
marble crater
#

Fair

radiant frigate
#

also, funny crusher oneshot

vestal fulcrum
potent echo
#

Illisi, but wait

#

When is darktide getting auto mode uwugryn

summer prairie
#

too bad based on the code the ranged warpfire talent is only on crit and for non-warp weapons

#

pretty limiting, especially if it stays at 1 stack

vestal fulcrum
marble crater
potent echo
#

Boo

vestal fulcrum
#

so Columnus will put it to good use, probably

#

or any crit-intensive ranged weapon

marble crater
#

Warpfire columnus? Where do I sign up

vestal fulcrum
#

next patch โ„ข๏ธ

#

well, possibly next patch, I don't think it's known when exactly will these skill changes be released

potent echo
#

We need to learn from the forums

#

Make a new book of grudges for psyker talents

lethal lagoon
potent echo
#

And post it every week

half turtle
#

man so which blazing spirit did they actually change

#

in the patch notes

radiant frigate
#

the sword one

lethal lagoon
#

Suouruda

half turtle
#

ahh

potent echo
half turtle
#

cuz i was like "wait i stg the stack count didn't go up to 9 before"

lethal lagoon
#

I like when the 1 dev working on this game wastes his time on useless stuff.

potent echo
#

They are probably

lethal lagoon
#

preparing for a bigger fix

potent echo
#

Adding new tiers for 1 and 2 blazing spirit

lethal lagoon
potent echo
#

Yea so the numbers are more linear because it matters I guess

lethal lagoon
#

Your face is about to be more linear

potent echo
#

It already is

lethal lagoon
potent echo
#

As all things should be

lethal lagoon
#

Well no, all living things are clearly cubic.

potent echo
#

Sign me up for the original tomb raider

lethal lagoon
#

Not the pointy

marble crater
#

Atlas just sounds more like a bully every day, it's time someone informed the mods throwing

lethal lagoon
half turtle
#

maybe they'll add a blaze 4 on trauma finally

lethal lagoon
#

And then buff EP smite to 300%

lethal lagoon
#

Wait they might actually do that

summer prairie
#

probably will, but it won't be a big deal since it will likely be 4 stacks and still 6 max

half turtle
#

i wouldn't mind a bit more damage on EP smite

patent wing
#

WITH RENDING

#

WITH RENDING

lethal lagoon
half turtle
#

it feels really finicky rn cuz you gotta literally 0-100 peril to kill some stuff with it

marble crater
#

Is there an easy to read list of all these talents or whatever? hmmnoted

lethal lagoon
#

900k-1mil in a game just for holding right click and yelling isn't enough.

#

I need 1.2 million

#

Or riot

radiant frigate
patent wing
#

would be great ofc

#

lasguns > guns

lethal lagoon
#

Imagine having to spend 8 seconds to kill the entire map on auric mael, that's so dumb.

#

Should be 5 seconds

#

Fix it now fatshark

half turtle
#

i played with a guy running EP smite earlier on the melee maelstrom, was fun

lethal lagoon
half turtle
#

i stole all his kills tho

lethal lagoon
#

Fix it, now.

#

MODS I require EP smite to outdamage every weapon in the game, right now it only outdamages stupid weapons like purg staff.

half turtle
#

purg staff is pretty stupid tbf

lethal lagoon
potent echo
#

I heard earlier there were allegations of smite buffs

#

This patch

lethal lagoon
#

They apply 10% brittle apprently now

#

Cause of the shock maul stuff

potent echo
#

Isit real tho

lethal lagoon
#

Should be

half turtle
#

10% brittle instead of the bespoke buff they have?

lethal lagoon
#

They apply the same electroctue effect

half turtle
#

or in addition to

lethal lagoon
#

No that too

#

Surge applies it too

half turtle
#

oh

lethal lagoon
#

the brittle

half turtle
#

the heck

lethal lagoon
#

It's just an electrocute buff

#

Seperate from enfeeble

half turtle
#

well that's cool i guess

lethal lagoon
#

It took 1 min and 30 seconds to kill 50+ crushers previously

#

I might retest it

half turtle
#

tbh i like it when my teammates run smite instead of assail or whatever

potent echo
#

Smite should ohko crushers

half turtle
#

so pls buff smite

potent echo
#

It's only fair, metal, lightning

lethal lagoon
#

I'm pretty sure in a logical fantasy setting metal armor would reduce lightning damage.

half turtle
#

yeah wouldn't it just ground out

#

cuz metal is more conductive than human flesh

#

or ogryn flesh or whatever

potent echo
#

Nah we don't see their _________ rings hidden under all that armor

lethal lagoon
#

Imagine a wizard shooting a lightning bolt at a knight and all the peasent soliders around him die.

#

As usual the lower class get's taxed

half turtle
#

hm if it was enough lightning it would make the armor very very hot tho

#

so it might be a worse way to go

lethal lagoon
#

Wow so free heating too

#

More subsidizes for the rich

half turtle
#

yes

#

heat the rich

#

anyways why does nobody play trauma any more

#

i feel like there was 1 month when i saw everyone run trauma

#

but afaict they haven't changed it since

potent echo
#

Cause it's too strong and it trivialises the game

lethal lagoon
#

A good trauma requires near meta rolls or it feels ass.

#

So there's a huge divide between the rich and poor

#

As fucking usual

potent echo
#

Must be why I never see smite EP users either KEKW_ogryn

half turtle
#

you gotta roll a good smite

lethal lagoon
#

You will never convince a support psyker that doing more DPS than 99% by running EP smite with shriek is a better choice than shield

#

The poor vote for tax cuts for the rich

summer prairie
#

does enfeeble even work with the right click smite

lethal lagoon
#

It's just how it is

lethal lagoon
#

That myth got passed around like the you eat 8 spiders a year myth

summer prairie
#

I only see the buff with left click

lethal lagoon
#

Yep, we tested it though

#

it definitely buffs smite and creeping flames damage

summer prairie
#

ok

lethal lagoon
#

As for whether it works on your team damage, we don't know

potent echo
#

Must be another debuff going by another variable name KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
summer prairie
#

but I also don't see brittle being applied, maybe the mod just doesn't show it

lethal lagoon
#

It's eletrocute

#

Not brittle

potent echo
#

Smite_enfeeble_rmb_mode_only_buff_trauma

summer prairie
#

don't see that either but I have't updated my mod in ages

lethal lagoon
#

Electrocute just comes with the 10% brittle

#

is my understanding

#

I don't know why, but it's really hard to shrug emote

#

It keeps giving me shrimp

#

and now middle finger

#

Just like the middle class get's the middle finger

potent echo
#

Why doesn't electrocute give -20% animation speed or smth

lethal lagoon
potent echo
#

Just do an inverse poxgas buff how hard can it be KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
#

The middle class can't even complain without someone intruppting their emote chain

potent echo
#

I don't even have custom emotes Hestia_WTF

lethal lagoon
#

(I'm definitely middle class, believe me fellow humans)

#

๐Ÿ‘ฝ

potent echo
#

Middle class is like median 10% KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
#

I like when people complain about money problems then you put their salary into a percentile calculator.

spice veldt
#

just smacking a rager and electrocuting with the maul, electrocute doesnt give brittleness

lethal lagoon
#

No?

summer prairie
#

ok after updating I see the debuff, though it shows up as "Electrocuted: 0"

lethal lagoon
#

Looks like I need to retest smite

spice veldt
#

just being careful to separatethe damage ticks and the actual damage of your weapon

lethal lagoon
#

time to murder poor helpless crushers surpressed by the class system that requires them to get high interest loans to afford their armor

#

Wait does 10% brittleness do anything on ragers, should it be 2.5% damage or something?

potent echo
#

Crusher armor type changed to flak from carapace

Dev notes: times are hard

lethal lagoon
#

Bro I keep getting kicked from servers I joined for emotes

#

I lost my animated kek

spice veldt
#

i would at least see a small damage bump if there was some brittleness

quartz barn
#

Arent there multiple servers just for emotes tho

lethal lagoon
#

Yeah, but I joined a lot of streamer servers for high quality emotes

#

^ this one slorpin kicks me eventually

#

It's a pain to find it again

quartz barn
#

I just have a lot of quality pics that are just an instant ban if posted in the right place thumbsup_ogryn

lethal lagoon
spice veldt
#

really makes you think about society

lethal lagoon
#

Does it?

marble crater
lethal lagoon
#

I must admit I miss the old wild west of the internet.

#

I don't miss paying for servers though just to voice chat

lethal lagoon
#

No.

#

That ruins the joy

marble crater
lethal lagoon
marble crater
lethal lagoon
potent echo
#

Being personally responsible for the trashsure you post would be too much uwugryn

marble crater
#

So which are the best Saul blessings now and which is the better Saul (not to call, to craft)? hmmnoted

#

Skullcrusher and the rending one?

tired estuary
#

Indignatus and skrusher + high voltage or stun on perfect block

marble crater
#

hmmnoted thanks

#

Is that the horde clear one?

grand scroll
#

So this update is where the Savant gets to use weapons they're more familiar with.

potent echo
#

It's the one that starts with H1 sweep

#

And H loop strikedown

hearty oak
#

Just make your own server with 14 other friends and boost it

hardy raft
marble crater
#

Let's see what Brunt and Hadron give me

patent wing
#

any1 feels like gunners are op right now

#

like 2-3 horde gunners instantly pop my toughness bar

patent wing
versed hedge
hardy raft
hardy raft
marble crater
hardy raft
#

what the fyck

#

gimme

#

also jesus

#

you lost like

#

50 heavy damage

marble crater
#

So skullcrusher and voltage as blessings, flak and what for perks? hmmnoted

hardy raft
#

107% adm for flaks

#

do you really need it

potent echo
marble crater
hardy raft
#

also maniac since maniac damage tends to be terrible and ragers after buffed will wreck your shit if you arent careful