#psyker-class
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How about hammerblow deze
deze?
i was hoping for it
if it didn't immediately come i would have been dissapointed
and yes i just realized how that sounded
kink baited

smh all the paid cosmetics they add and they couldn't be sure to put in fire wastes and crucis nightshade for the new weapons
Tbh, the bolt pistol would just look worse
Also has anyone tried proximity with puncture with it? To see if it gets a minor boost to CCing. Or does the bleed effect only get applied to direct hits
Doesn't work on explosions
I tried

Would have been cool
Only the primary target shot gets bleed
you and me had the same idea
Damn it fatshark, that would have been too good of an idea i guess
Gamers, I think the new shotty has a weird interaction with true aim
How so?
New map is quite hard. Beat histg on it with experienced guys and only one drop out
But if you don’t have at least one competent teammate you are screwed. Unlike a lot of the other levels
I can't seem to get a crit number with true aim stacked, but at the same time that orange number that shows up is higher than an actual crit I'm doing with the weapon when true aim is not stacked
how yall feel about cara on void now
Orange and yellow are swapped for me atm
Crits showing as weakspots and vice versa
It's always been good
Bloody hell the shock maul is so fun
Having a weapon you can bonk ragers with on psyker is beautiful
What's everyone's favorite ranged pairing for the shock mauls so far?
Wasn't it intended or smth 
Idk but I don't like it
I tried bolt pistol it was ok, probably anything anti unyielding will be good
Laspistol etc
Recon
I'm just running the columnus rn bc I need something I'm familiar with
Can't carry with two new weapons
But yeah you need unyielding damage, and carapace wouldn't go astray
i don't use trauma
skillz?
That blast radius…
You can run a standard blaze trauma build. Venting shriek spam is still great without it.
Or run assail
The damage is at least decent, but I don't know the break points on 71%
assail w/ trauma goes hard. Don't pick up warp charges, get ep or DD
i'd agree that trauma's lack of effective rangd multi-target means you want assail
If 71% doesn't hit the bruiser breakpoint take DD
BB is useful for extra long range sniping, but sometimes vent can take care of it
Or right click assail
Or staff LMB
staff LMB is fair, though aimsail always seems to fall off too hard fo rme
probably skill issue
Disrupt Destiny on Trauma is fantastic though, Irosk is right there
boom whole crowds, you're bound to pick up precision bonus
how well did hadron do
i have all but 1 tier 4 blessing for shock mauls
Afaik thrust ain't it, but dunno if there's a difference on the mks
DD smite for real chads
0/10
We don’t know the synergies for psyker yet. But for vet/zealot. You want unarmored/flak and skull crusher and High voltage

Yeah I'm running skull crusher and high voltage for dps
DD staff melee
Have to play a little funky and let them hit you
Unless it's ragers then it's free proc
I also managed to shock one crusher by blocking the non overhead, cool stuff
Troll flamers too 
Huh. Indignatus secondary horizontal swing combo after dashing is nicec.
Or apparently also after jump.
It's from neutral
I think
Huh. I get overhead bonk from H1 if I don't slide or run-jump.
Do you mean h2?
let it surprise no one that i was a fucking idiot
huh
is Enervating Threshold wall shield + opportunist shock maul anything?
assuming a stun's a stun
Opportunist is a trap
Trie
so
did psyker get the db
They got everything
Has anyone had any issues with mods? My game is bricked atm after I turned them back on
Weapon customization update

The launcher doesn't even start
And I had to restart cause steam couldnt "stop" it
There wasn't a process in task manager either
Sus

Story of my life
I just wanted to try the shotgun in the pysch, wasn't even gonna play

You beat the DLC already?
yea ive done everything
even went into ng+ with a bow build and did the main bosses again lmao
damn
I did spoil myself a bit cause I couldn't care less about boss spoilers, so no need to hide anything from me.
I've been enjoying the martial arts a lot
its honestly so peak
final boss and the boss of jagged peak are some of my new favorite bosses ever
I assume you used wing stance on the greatsword?
light greatswords are their new best moveset
i used a longsword until i got rellanas twin blades, then used those until i got ledas sword
so basically used them for like 90% of the dlc lmao
I found the lack of poise to be too much for me
I'm bit of a head basher, I need poise.
respecced into a 30/30/30/30 quality
didnt even use spells lmao, just the swords
im very used to having no poise
Without like a cheese build, it felt like just swinging the swords did more damage
the moveset is so damn cool
and the style, oh the style
same
i found myself liking the 2hand single light gs moveset better so swapped to ledas sword with her armor
also they buffed bows
and they're actually like, good
The sword she drops after the summon fight is a light gs? I think I'll probably switch to that then.
Ooo Igon's bow seems like a must try then

Got this as a mission reward. Havent tried out the bold pistol yet though, is this good for a bolt pistol?
Collateral is damage % no?
fashion is the most important thing, obviously
I'm absoutely gonna do a run with wing stance light greatsword.
It looks so fire buffed.

oh yea ive been meaning to try out that deflecting physick tear
if its as good as it sounds, might be able to play sekiro in er now
I watched someone do a martial arts run with it
The final fight was epic as shit.
I wanna do malenia with it.
I think because of the low guard, no one expected guard counter spam with marital arts, so it's pretty strong
Or maybe they are rewarding high skill high reward
Either way, it was super cool
the perfume bottles are cool, like really cool
like if you use a fire bottle in one hand and a frost in the other, it looks sick
but honestly i much prefer having the feedback of hitting something with an actual physical weapon
The charged heavy is pretty pog

They also did deflect godfrey with the martial arts, it was cinematic lmao
I'm absolutely using it for the rest of my run
godfrey my beloved
tho imma be real pretty much every main fight in the dlc blows every base game boss out of the water
at least for me
Rellana was my first boss in the DLC and it was glorious.
they're actually difficult and take a bit more precision/learning patterns and openings
also they're just so well designed and fun to fight
I wasn't a huge fan of the lion because it reminds of me tree spirits though
oh really? i really enjoyed the lion
one of the only fromsoft beast fights i can actually enjoy
i was honestly very surprised one of my new favorite bosses is a dragon, i did not expect that going into the dlc
that second phase transition is literally the coolest shit
i couldnt not have a smile on my face everytime it happened
(which was many, many attempts)
I died a bunch cause I would stop before the end to summon the npc

If you haven't summoned him, you should do it on your next run
i accidentally hitlessed a few of the basegame bosses on my ng+ bow run, and rellana
It's in the boss room, so you can "beat" the boss without summoning him.
Just summon at like 10%
ah i see
i totally missed his summon
I wish all the NPC summons were in the boss room now
It's so much better, so I can get the fight I want with the lore I want
yea thatd be nice
always sad to have to summon yuria against soul of cinder to get the ending
i think im gonna skip on the dt update and flat out drop the game until the crafting update, havent played in like a week now
gonna start bg3 tmrw and hopefully armored core 6 will be on the summer sale
I don't really wanna roll the new weapons with the knowledge of a crafting update coming up
yea im just kinda tired with rng
playing shadow of the erdtree has spoiled me with good game
now i need more
My stupid thumb

Well more like the stupid new controller I bought that messed up my thumb
I literally bought it for the DLC and it messed my hand up.
The joystick is so weird
pain
Last time I spend more than $50 on a controller fuck me
i use a standard ps5 controller
it does

it works with everything ive played so far
and for some, strange reason if it ever doesnt i can use dsx or something to make it compatible
Welp, ordered one, wished I had known in the first place.
but yeah controllers fucking suck
they break and you need to send it in somewhere or flat out replace it
i played on xbox for years and went through several controllers just from them shitting the bed on me for no reason
i made the poor mistake of buying their elite controller, got it repaired 4 times, each after 2-3 months
a key doesnt work on my board anymore? oh no ~25c switch replacement
Yeah, the xbox one I bought has a really weird joystick. It has a weird amount of resitance and is like sandpapery
Maybe someone likes that, but my thumb does not
also wish i could use my ps5 controller on xbox without having to spend $100 on an adapter, cause thats not happening lmao
I see folks doing some insane numbers with Surge staves
is that just the blitz cancel thing?
Nah.
I mean it helps, but it's not needed.
Just spam surge and creeping flames shriek
It's brain off playstyle
I'm too lazy to blitz cancel these days, most games are 600k-900k with surge.
hmm, is there any build that isn't flame based?
For surge?
oui
No
boowomp
I mean you can run LMB surge
Here's my super meta LMB build
For surge you'd run run n gun and nexus.

i was thinking about camping melks and looking at it every day but its like
probably healthier if i uninstall and distance myself completely until the crafting update comes so im actually invigorated to get back into the game
You mean with the app?
yea i have the extension on my browser
I usually just a have a tab open. You'll just forget about it eventually so you might as well do it

Heh, they added an elden ring "update" explaining scartree frags

I reallly hope they don't nerf anything. The vast majority of bad reviews are from China, who knows what's going on there.
i seriously hope they dont touch any of the bosses
98% of people complaining about the difficulty are either angry because they stomped the base game and were expecting to come into the dlc and beat bosses in 5 goes, or the people who're too ashamed for some reason to use summons and leave a bad review cause they themselves arent good enough to beat the game without specific tools put in the game for them lmao
I mean more the people complaining aren't even the audience of the game. I don't think it's even legal in china.
They are like 70% of the negative reviews
So the DLC is "mixed" but it's not an accurate perspective, but of course the clickbait "news" articles don't mention that.
So I'm hoping they don't make decisions based on that
But yeah, I think the base game was a little too easy too cheese, so when they shored up a lot of problems, it kinda changed things.
From software very clearly added TONS of summon mats and summons to the DLC
Even a seperate scaling for summons on DLC
They are like "Don't be mad, just summon."
@wind spruce If you post a video of SGSG lemme know.
I dunno if I like the shotgun based on what I've tested in the grinder.

It doesn't feel good

But I was running it with shock maul
Reload spd might be too slow for SG
Open perks pog
So that was warping things a bit
Reloading during Sg always feels bad
Does Psyker use the shock mail decently well
Did psyker get any shadow nerfs
Any shadow buffs then
Define shadow
I've upgraded 33 shotties to transcendant looking for tier 4 Both Barrels
Finally got it just now
not listed in the patch notes
takes a shit
"Behold, a shadow"
On the purge staff should I modify 25% unarmored damage or 25% infested damage?
Both are bad but I guess infested is better? Probably want another opinion.
You want unarmored
There's 3 types of infested enemy in the game
poxwalker, poxburster, pox hounds
I think unarmored doesn't affect the dreg gunners because their body is flak
unarmored body is weaker horde, and the 1 ranged mob and 1 bruiser.
I was thinking you'd want to do more damage to the strongest horde and throw in some dog damage
I feel like those issues with purg is handled by pressing LMB

If there is no one knows of it
It's all there that I know of
I run groaners and crit damage on my burga
If you have tier 3+ warp nexus and flurry, then changing both perks is normally better
Especially if the perks are the useless unarmored and infested

I have flak and maniac on my other purge staff so should I go with those?
flak/crit will generally give you more bang
Flak is mandatory. Second one can be 5% crit, manics, or unyielding.
but maniac is fine
Make sure you have high cloud radius and 76%+ burn as well
Only very based people go flak unyielding

chance yes
nobody sane will ever tell you to go crit damage
unless there's some massive change to the formula
I don't think crit chance is that good staff has 15% extra chance already
Thanks guys
ive been busy; any1 got a tldr of the update for a fellow spyker?
The invisible psyker
Updoot, 3 new weapons for psyker, new map
'Surge'
Now also grants 5% Crit Chance.
wat
'Blazing Spirit'
Tier 3:
Stacks Per Crit: 2 -> 3
Max Stacks: 10 -> 9.
wattttt
It's for force swords
FS nerfing the bad things is peak game design
It's a buff
There's a tier 4 blazing spirit on force swords anyway
ah
‘Chastise the Wicked’ and ‘Fury of the Faithful’
100% Rending -> 100% Melee Rending
gg zealot useless
The biggest buff for psyker is actually perfect timing going to stacks per hit rather than per attack
Wait so blaze 3 got tuned while 4 remains the same
Puzzling
I think the thought process was to make both tiers stack to full in three crits
yeah thats nice.
i still think it does not work properly because i should be untouchable playing columnus but yet i get hit
Either that or streamline it
and the restore 5% toughness on crit also does not work properly imo because emptying a mag on columnus gives like 20% toughness back
Idk t4 values but t3 went from needing 5 crits for max stacks to 3, which is a massive difference
That's empathic evasion not perfect timing
💀
EE definitely works fine as far as I can tell, but sometimes it does feel like I shouldn't have taken that shotgunner slug
Exposed as fake psyker main
so sad that fatshark would nerf obviously stupid stuff
whaddyamean I cant recharge a 40s cd in 8 seconds?
Psyker is dead, no more surge staff EP bug unplayable
it's so joever
Or literally two seconds sometimes
Simply run cd on special/elite kill ez
To be fair, it was pretty fun to spam charge for the voice lines alone
Psyker one is a buff though, but don't tell them
Can we nerf vets cooldown node now pls fatshark
This would be great for the pointless vet discussions alone
if anything'd be as close to the psword nerf reviewbomb the CD on elite kill'd be it
works fine as far as i can tell https://streamable.com/u7ic9d
More like make crit useless on anything other than dagger

my brother in christ other finesse weapons exist
and zealot is the other class with a big weakspot/crit bonus in the form of duellist
and chainsword being one of the few weapons whose crowd clear benefits from crits
also +50% dr
And you still get decent cdr

mfs when one aspect of a rather stacked kit gets nerfed
and i'm saying this as a crit zealot main
how can u see

see what
They could have nerfed the % before touching the multi hit part
ah yeah i have it like that it to keep it compact
though the multi-hit was easily the most absurd part because of the potential scaling
it's a simple and incremental change that anti-nerfers all like to talk about
"small changes instead of big ones"
zealots are on death notice, they lost fury ranged rending AND crit CD
what is there to complain about except for the fact that it's a nerf
Zealots are absolutely fine lol
so tragic
yeah FotF has always been a stacked ult
and the ranged armour downgrade has been a long time cooming
Some retuning is warranted now, but zealots are still great
Flamer needs love since they specifically nerfed it because of fotf
am I misremembering when they atttempted fixing chastise ranged rending early in the games life as a bug fix but community was up in arms about it and they backtracked
and left-side middle still having one of the better nodes to path through
Blessing changes but overpressure still broken 
Bro where is your combat ability icon and ammo in clip haha
i accidentally disabled crosshairhud since i'm on my laptop instead of my desktop and i made a booboo
I love the minimalist style tho
shrimply just count every bullet
I want your health and toughness bars
yeah i keep it small so that it can be near the center without cluttering what i see
with hudtweaker, you'll get my health/toughness look if you put the toughness behind the health bar and shrink the height of the health bar
you'll need to do it for every health segment (esp if you dare to play martyr zealot), but you can copy and paste what you did for one bar to the other bars in user_settings.config
Why would you do this
I can't handle healthbars around the crosshair cause I'll just ignore them.
because it looks nice and is compact
I don't need healthbars because I never get hit 
so true

UI gaming
Hmm i need to check out hudtweaker again, it's been awhile. Ty
goated mod
oh yeah and i made the health background bigger to act as a sort of border around the health, and same goes for the toughness bar background
goose
what are you doing here
psyker is your lowest level class
get out of here
you have no rights
he immediately attacks
Lore accurate
inciting speech
Erectile
Destiny
FATED 2 ERECT
is this ok tho
you're a real psyker unlike josho
My highest level is 30 
issa bit emberassing that i have a vet ik
but i tried to level it for some friends to lure them into the game
Having a vet is embarrassing, yes
hadron just bricked me 5 bolt pistols in a row
Melee vet > the entire zealot archetype
the surge staff cancel tech works via blitz swap right
ngl, kinda mood
wtf this cancel tech is giga busted
The new mission is quite open. Not many corridors or chokepoints where I can make good use of Voidstrike
I'd imagine it would be similar for a Warpfire Purg build as well because of the distances
It's an apm sink for some marginal gains, pretty fun overall 9/10
i use G to swap to blitz and 2 to get back to staff - the staff-drawing is kinda the bottleneck now
hm problem is the staff-draw time
I used void when i ran the mission yesterday, imo void seems like the best overall staff to run here
Only section where it falls short is the first event
But tbh that depends on the enemies that spawn, i had 90% gunners on the first run, and mostly maulers/ragers with bombers the second time
Was on high int auric damn
The section in the snow is very long however so thats perfect for void
is this the way?
Yeah for sure. It does feel like all the other staves are too range limited for how open the map is. Void is good but it still can't make use of the bowling shots of choikepoints and hallways which is a shame
crusher kill time goes down from 7.4 to 6.2~
Guess I'll be sticking to my Assail build for the new mission. Smite has not been needed much unless it's Auric Damnation with huge mauler or rager squads.
And my assail build has the shield which helps a lot when there are a bunch of gunners and ranged blebs spread out over a big room
obv im doing it wrong
And assail is good for hordes that are not lined up
You need to re-hold rmb probably
Highly pref mauler/ragers here
i cant get rid of the draw animation
Surge and Trauma worked well in the new mission for me
Areas at the end are really open so gunners spread out a lot
Hard carried the pubs with bubble
that's an old video that demonstrating the now patched-out sprint cancel tech for surge
hm ok ty.
so the way im doing it is the fastest rn?
looks like it
bruh i forgot how bad crafting was
1mil dockets and 2 weapons above 370 from the new stuff
my best trauma yet, idk if i should just change one blessing to go blaze + crit on peril or flurry for more armor strip, i already play with blaze talents. If not blessings then what perks should i choose?
Honestly turn this into a flurry one since that charge is a bit on the lower end
Man the new stat positions really mess me up
theyre changing it every patch
I just got used to the old ones too
👴 its tru were very old and stuck in our ways
I guess the best solution to this problem is just reading which stat is which, rather than just memorizing the positions...?
hmm i guess yeah ill go flak/carapce perks and flurry/brittelness on blessings
since i already have good blaze trauma anyway
I swear im not dumb
I just need crit damage instead of unyielding
and the voidstrike of cancer is completed
i can NOT believe they buffed surge
isn't crit damage very worthless because of the math?
What with surge with spamming light attack two shot
i have a lvl 230 psyker in my team with shred rampage ds4 xx
hes real i vouch for him
on voidstrike it works for RMB
What does Trauma Staff do? Weaponise PTSD?
what ranged weapon? I think shred rampage DS4 could be more useful for a gun build than a staff one...
limb fireworks
Nice
its physical trauma, not mental trauma.
actually, it can be both because it inflicts physical trauma via your mind (so its both physical and mental)
aoe nuke/stagger and destroys your ears
not sure think it was a pistol, i left
btw the performance problems are fixed for everyone right?
my god this fucks
It beats
surce cancel gives around 13% more dps im not sure if its worth the hassle
deflector is best perk in game, cant change my mind
stack block staminca cost reduction on curios and weapon + deflector = melee tank
i was doing that a year ago, i try new things!
fyi the block eff given by deflector only applies to ranged attacks instead of to all attacks
tank a gunner for 1 sec nice perk
you can quell while dodge sliding
2-3% per shot is negligible, not to mention being able to tank DH with same technique in mind
does it? quite misleading perk description if true
cant kill it with deimos or illisi
i mean technically you can kill a DH with illisi or deimos, but it takes so much time lol
only ds4 and mk6 can kill a DH without too much risk
ugh, still very elpful v shotgunners or being gunned down in the open, stacked block reduction with kinetic deflection talent makes you effectively take 1/3 stamina as peril % damage in melee anyway, and close to nothing per shot in ranged
arguing over a 1v1 scenario against deamonhost who's not meant to be beatable in 1v1 is a weird value metric
yes
imo ds and deimos are perfect
fs get deflector
ds get ripost precognition
it is a 50/50 for me
but i love deflector
Why so condescending? 
People want their things in their usual place, it's not complicated
deimos can still do 500-1000 dmg on weakspots on mutants, hounds , 2nd heavy stagger any enemy in headshot
it is known that gamers don't read
Like you never got annoyed when a store moved an item somewhere else 
i guess having laundry misplaced can incite a minor panic attack
bro cant let people be happy
maybe one day people will embrace the deimos of stamina block and deflector
HOLY FUCK THIS GAME RIGHT AT THE END OF A MATCH I GET DISCONNECTED WHAT THE FUCK
real :3
feels bad
I havent bothered yet
Nice first impressions
Boltpistol seems ass from testing
Powermaul stun is cool, but does no dmg
Pickaxe is ogryn only zzz
Atleast the shotty seems strong, but new map favors long range xd
However, gunker with new shotty potential?
scryer shotgun with scattershot + double barrel is something yeah
it has shortcomig, but it's overshadowed by zarona rev, because this one has pen, handcannon and bullet magnestism
not my experience at all
at least on zealot
That's what I've been trying
Feels lackluster
Are you stacking actual stamina aswell?
no, you dont need stamina with kinetic deflection
Incorrect
Stamina makes it more efficient
The more stamina you have, the less peril generated per attack blocked
So basically this update has been mostly a dud for psykers?
no wuckaz!
why take stamina regen tho?
idk, it was 8 months ago i was probably just experimenting
you don't really need stam regen on psyker
what they be saying
they gave a pretty good reasoning about why they nerfed it from what i remember
"Punishment talent was perfect the way it was. Nerfing it from 150% to 25% is exaggerated. And the excuses about “Hammer of Faith” making relevant is ludicrous. You just removed possibilities."
"Invocation of Death no longer triggering on every hit. SO many players had SO much fun with this since the game launched, and now you just decided to take it away. You disgust me!"
oh god
invo should be deleted unironically
not that i care about your opinion, cuz i dont
the problem is that the other impact talents (and blessings, really) can't really compete with it in any meaningful way
it has zero infested damage
so true
he is fish reacting an innocent man. kill him
@spice veldt @lunar hollow are we playing today
hammerblow does more so idk if its even needed
i dont have work
if i can find the usb for my gaming mouse then sure
brotentially
i unplugged it and left it somewhere that i can't remember for some god forsaken reason
lmao
amazing
nvm i just found them in the ziplock bag containing my allen wrenches, right next to the case where i usually keep my usbs
alright i'm not stupid and i didn't accidentally put them into one of the other boxes since i'm moving out of a house
back to ur pond?
no.
OMG HELLO
oh god
i just survived three dice rolls
You will appear in my summoning circle
are you trying to kidnap me
cuz phone auto-capitalizing
and only insane people capitalize their sentences on desktop w/o finishing it off with a period
Arco Arco Arco
you're a sick bastard
yeah i hate bi people specifically
i am a normal and well-functioning person with no mood disorders (lie)
and only the finest of specimen keep misuing the word aught 🙂
Do you put him on a spaceman slide and put him under an electron microscope? 
Specimen
what
i'm trying to replicate his text and i end up sounding like yoda
i should study it so that i can bust it out at critical moments and pretend to be mentally ill
"If you were impact stacking, you needed fully stacked prenerf Punishment, fully stacked Hammerblow 4, and Hammer of Faith to knock Crushers with heavy crusher attacks."
that does not sound true at all
yeah a complete lie
hammerblow is all you need for normals, and the special doesn't need any impact buff at all
first the vets now the zealots the forum so fun to read
unless they're referring to knocking them down instead of staggering them, but like keeping them standing is also good for just whamming on their head
such a weird metric by which to complain about
knocking them down instead of a medium stagger makes them harder to kill because you have to reposition
here's a demo of a pre-stacked hammerblow crusher crusher takedown to appreciate it https://streamable.com/ik7zw5
"I played exclusively Zealot, and exclusively with Fury of the Faithful / Invocation of Death with a Heavy Chainsword. And yes, think Fatshark hates iconic 40K weapons like Chainswords, Boltgun and Thunder Hammer. They instead want you to use shitty Combat Knives and Revolvers."
yeah thammer is so hated
whats the trash target limit for a charged heavy 7000?

"Fury enabled tons of different builds to work thanks to its unique and fun properties. Now all of them are dead in the water because a single Crusher will render you useless, so you’re basically forced to take the Revolver if you’re not using an anti-Carapace melee or be a huge liability to your team. If there were more viable ranged options to fulfill that role that would be one thing, but there just aren’t."
being forced to take anti-carapace melees (7 out of 11 zealot melees)
"if you're not using an anti-carapace melee" is doing so much heavy lifting
shot him in the kneecaps
"I didn’t see anything noting invocation of death was changed, but from what I’m reading here it no longer triggers on everything you hit, and just triggers on a per instance of crit basis? That’s extra weird then as it is pushing even more players towards a knife and faster attack weapons common to all classes and farther away from the class unique weapons like heavy evis and thunder hammer…"
evi and hammer unplayable its so over billions have to sell gear their gear
i'm sure there's no incentive to use melee weapons that aren't knife besides crit cdr
i must chastise every 6 seconds or i instantly die
it's so weird
"The reality of the change is that maybe what, 1 genuinely meta gun suffers (IAG). Meanwhile HH literally lost its entire reason to exist on Zealot, which is its good flak mod turning it into a good crusher killer with FotF. Shotties also a harder sell now."
This is inherently false
damn can no longer ciag crushers to death with 5 bullets instead of a full mag
its so over zealot bros
I don't think I ever used fury with a ranged weapon 
Once, for shocking stuff penance
i have its fun but its unfair what you can do to crushers
"Nerfing Fury quite literally killed the Zealot class as far as I’m concerned. I’m very close to dropping the game."
I always killed crushers with rev heavy from evis
"Making builds totally incapable of dealing with certain kinds of enemies in a reasonable time frame is the worst possible balancing move Fatshark could have possibly made. The number of viable high tier builds on Zealot was just cut by 75%. Good job, guys.
Fatshark can continue pushing incomplete builds that force mandatory team play for all 12 people still playing the game. I won’t be one of them."
ye same
i dont get what the issue is
marty is the most optimal build on zealot because wound curios come in at brunts unbrickable
its the only build for zealot as far as im concerned
Maybe concerned they can't complete the same difficulty anymore, I don't know
oh nooo someone has to block or dodge instead of charging every 5 seconds for toughness :(((((
Just play momentum 
That remind me that I need to play my vet for new female cutthroat lines
the cadian?
Yes
wow people still use that personality?
?????
the personality scourge was like a second fall of cadia
i havent seen any cadians in so long
Cadia personality is not as bad as people make it out to be, imo. I started with male cadian and they really don't talk about cadia that much, plus the shout voice lines are the best
i started with female cadian she had zero lines
ye the shouts were the only good part
"Yes ,I want to play some other ranged weapons than Zarona and Bolter on Zealot
Here is one comment in reddit thread that is articulated well and resonates with my exact thoughts:" this is too long im not copying the whole thing but you can imagine
I switched from male cadian to female loose cannon for a change, but the shout lines are getting to me, so I changed to female cadian when they started to add more lines in one of the recent patches
loose cannons have awful shout lines
Yep
UHHH BOOTS OR SOMETHING
Put the karking boots in
B-BOOOTS
Me when I'm scared of Puss in Boots
oh yeah chastise doesnt downgrade armor anymore
i cant oneshot crushers on bodyhits anymore with hammer its so over bros unplayable
Still does for melee I thought
nope 100% rending
uhhh since when was this in the game?
how many secret inspect animations are there? i just know of one for knife
Vets also have that animation
What's the difference? I thought people said it downgraded the armor because it's a lot of rending 
now its just rending before it treated carap like flak flak like unarmored rest idk
Did that also count for damage perks? 
I should go play zealot and see what all the fuss is about
no its unplayble
pls buff bolter its so weak
needs 700 shots to kill a crusher unusable
You arent missing much. Its still ridiculously strong like psyker
Basically, all melee weapons during chastise are stronger now
Because the way ADM works
not on crushers
well at least with hammer
it has shitty carap damage
Sounds fair to nerf ranged damage and buff melee for a melee focused class 
but its still only 1 hit?
Yeah, it consumes the buff
On melee, one of the reasons why Ranged chastise worked
Fair enough
weakspot is fine tho
they need to make mouse movement easier during the charge tbh that should fix it
I was just annoyed to not have access to anti armor guns beside rev
Welp, it's 100% rending now
And with Invocation liking attack speed instead of cleave
It's prime knife hours
And I hate it

Oh no not another rise of invis knife zealots
Did Psykers even get anything new this update? 
We got the same as all human classes
We also got some nice buffs
Oh did we? I swear I feel weaker than ever
Nice
An understatement.
Obscurus is my gf now
DS2 heavy 1 was buffed to be in line with DS4, perfect timing now works for each hit, instead of each attack, so it's a lot easier to stack
Obscurus was also buffed
Relationship with Deimos ended
Surge for voidstrike getting a casual 5% more crit, recon lasguns actually somewhat better (Could be more so), A Bolt pistol that does nice elite damage, mk2 DS got a nifty buff to its H1 attack so its an actual choice and blazing spirit is easier to get off on the Deimos if im not wrong.
based

LMAO
:XD:
i dont think its worth in general
obscurus doesnte ven need to chareg up and kills elites fast
ilisi just cleaves and kill
also, smite , as usually strong as hell
Biggest buff of all is probably every weapon being able to shoot through teammates now
REALL!?!??!
WAIT THEY DID THAT?
why the fuck did they even buff EP smite to 200%
from 135%
i dont get it
I think with the changes to spawn rates only serves to highlight smite even further for how useful it is
smite doesnt evne need the fucking dmg
Meanwhile, they just standby idly while i tickle the horde of elites to death

if u need dmg just shoot a revovler once at a elite
and get perilous stack
on the elitesarond
and keep smiting
its almost like u have a perfect loop of smite -> knowck them down -> shoot elite -> smite
or smite -> vent -> smite
One perilous stack isn't going to do anything without vent on too of it
It's also a very small area of effect
it used to not do much, but with EP smite at 200%
90% of my pub games go a lot smoother when i bring smite
it actually helps
yeah
i dont evne run anything else that generates peril
That's just smite doing the damage, not soulblaze
so i can smite for longer
it makes a difference when i dont have a full smite charge to kill a the rest of shotgunners or gunners
and smite CAN run rampant after the 2nd eliet kill
and possibly vent
3 stacks does absolutely jack shit
The rest will be if your team has the boss dps. If not, hope you have deimos with unyielding damage
Yeah, that's better
how can ppl play without clean force blocking; (played a few games without due to crashes; needed to update mod)
6 fire stacks is moer elss the same dps as smite (or i think used to be when EP smite was 135%)
i just smite
enemies cant hit me
force swords literally garbage with that blocking
You just do 
cant see shit
dont use anything that generates peril
Or columnus, or duelling sword
and just smite
deimos with unyielding then does nothing*25%?
I use dueling sword 
Im trying to steer clear of those options cause i know they can.
Deimos is ok against unyielding isn't it?
it does. Maybe not against a chaos spawn cause of how fast they move and swing
I wouldn't know because deimos is just a downgrade to duelling sword
So I don't use it
h2 and u got no time fo that
deimos with DD and power blessings feels like ilisi thats the advantage
horde clear with cara dmg
id much rather take the L than fight a chaos spawn solo tbh. Just cock and ball torture
nah its possible, i once killed a chaos spawn alongside 20 carapaced enemies in true solo mod
maybe i got in on video
blaze trauma op
I know it is. But if were down to solos and its with people i dont know, im just gonna blow myself off the map
Glad there's a mod
no accuracy on 10meter unless you wait 3 sec between each shot how fkin bad
It does but its like the revolver without the ridiculous rending sadly
At least its got puncture
Feels bad man
Revolver handles way better
i guess i will still build a good one for my gunker build just because it can open up bulwarks if aimed down
cara dmg, unyielding dmg, bulwark dmg is kinda gud
but revolver waaaay better in killing elites and specials like a sniper
Yeah thats all its really good for. I find it really fun though paired with smite and a DS or Deimos
yeah
Was really hoping the proximity blessing and puncture paired well and caused bleeding to all enemies caught in the explosion of the round
and not a direct hit
Cause surely that be too fun
It'd be honestly too effective. Isn't bleed damage also affected by other damage multipliers?
Not really. Staffs exists
Smite and vent exists
Who would really care. It just be cool
Also
Assail exists
Smite is a glorified pause button that requires you to be stationary. Bleed on explosion would be magdump and run away, wait for stacks to do the killing
but then again they did nerf bleed
so you might be right
I agree that the bolt pistol is anemic at best
recon is finally a fun alternative for gunpsyker though. I'm liking the changes there
Cant even 'magdump' the bolt pistol properly like you can with the bolter
didnt read the changes why accatran gud now?
yeah the sway is a joke honestly
Might as well give it some good alts
All the recon lasguns got buffed
recon lasguns got a good dmg and mag/ammo bump
you can't melt as fast as a columnus 5 but you can melt for longer
down to 9 yeah
but that's for infernus only right?
or did they do the same for soulblaze?
I'm trying to get the right rolls for a DOT gunspyker right now. As it stands you can quickly apply burn stacks with infernus, soulblaze with an elite kill and then go to town with a bleed knife.
cause no one was complaining about infernus enough
The infernus nerf had to have been a guess from FS cause no one would have cared for the 12 stacks. It might have been a good choice to use finally
unless we're scaling stuff down for heresy players
I wonder if they did it because the old recon lasgun vet build did too much damage with the added stats
isn't the general balance around malice players? I remember reading that they make up a large proportion for some reason lol
Holy shit I hope not
it would explain a lot lol
also did they finally fix all the useless blessings on trauma like rending shockwave and surge?
Useless? Wasn't rending Shockwave the coping alternative to if you didn't get blazing spirits? Not bad and can cause brittleness if the team doesn't have anyone to afflict it
And surge just got a flat 5%crit chance buff with it
I remember reading that it didn't work in the forums a while a go
surge on trauma only works on the primary not the alt fire
which is useless
there's a lot of wonky blessings on staves tbh
Haven't seen Disrupt Destiny stacks on my HUD this update yet
And not enough to change them either. I been saying they should redo the special on the staffs to make them stand out more
Not like I should know if I should face down a Mutie because I can stab it in the face in 1 hit or not
It's working in the background. If you have any hud mods, it may hide them by accident
Yeah I know, but it's been fucked for a while now
i was told by a playtester there would be a fix coming for a weapon i used
it got delayed 💀
Which one

heavy 2 draw time for evi
Draw time?
game keeps freezing, idk what the hell is a particleworld but it sure aint helping the experience
Which mk?
15
nvidia?
no problems before?
WORKS FOR ME :333333333333333
turn on debug mode and open up case
Mmm I think my 1 trick pony zealot friend said you can quickswap to the mk15 and do the overhead quickly.
Don't know about the draw time for the H2 though
💀
bruh i am not about to do 15 extra actions to be 1 ms faster
i play evi to avoid carpel tunnel
It's a beast that quenches my thirst for blood by using Bloodthirsty

Think I never paid attention to H2
Since rev resets to H1
Lmao
i like using chastise as soon as the revved attack connects so i dont waste a chastise :3
Rev attack and chastise is also more damage than chastise and rev attack, that's just smart
Rip mobility
just gave this a go and it actually works well. The recon 2 is a great columnus 5 alternative
Overall rating is pretty bad lmao
does mobility on a shotgun ever matter, it's going to suck regardless
dumdum + infernus and crit chance with flak does wonders on mael
1.75 sprint cost garbage
20 shots to kill a reaper with scriers active. roughly 30 without. recon enjoyers may rejoice
btw, Malefic Momentum's talent description is broken, and idk if it still works...?
added benefit being that you can kill bulwark packs without having to run around like a maniac or bait out the attack when using columnus
I can test on Saturday
You can also just slide into them
I mean, I tested it and the stacks do appear in the HUD when in the psykhanum, its just that idk if the stacks do anything anymore...
Which is something I can test on Saturday, find an answer to if it works or not
Easy enough to test.
dude the new mission is so fucking rough lol
Bring your bubble
Then your only choice is to git gud
Like the intro to the second part, feels like a proper ambush
relic id good
me shtting a knife at a heretic's back 5 times to reuse my shiny metal
After the high speed travel? Yeah. I expected to arrive at a relatively empty location, but holy hell
So uhh
I was picking up an Agni
I was like "Huh i wonder if the indignatus has the same stats as this one, i can't be arsed to go check so let me buy one"
Bruh
I'm bricked up and fully aware that it's going to get bricked
why cant i get good rolls aaaaa
Dude this is my first 380
MY prediction: stamina, crit damage and 1 blessing you don't want.
Normally i just say "hell yeah" everytime i roll anything above 360
Good luck 
They gonna remove crafting locks at some point
Honestly i'm perfectly fine with crit damage. I run critpsyker anyway so it's more useful than block efficiency (I run stamina and Kinetic Deflection)
Very well, upgrade and post results then. We're waiting
I'm gonna
I enjoy to see a fellow sibling suffer
who isn't with this system
im dry
crit damage is still one of the least impactful damage talents in the pool regardless if you're running a crit build
I mean





