#psyker-class

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tawny pebble
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boowomp

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but making enemies horizontal gives me feel good juice

potent echo
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How about hammerblow deze

tawny pebble
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deze?

potent echo
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Nuts

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Ayo gottem

tawny pebble
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i was hoping for it

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if it didn't immediately come i would have been dissapointed

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and yes i just realized how that sounded

wind spruce
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kink baited

potent echo
tawny pebble
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smh all the paid cosmetics they add and they couldn't be sure to put in fire wastes and crucis nightshade for the new weapons

hearty oak
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Also has anyone tried proximity with puncture with it? To see if it gets a minor boost to CCing. Or does the bleed effect only get applied to direct hits

potent echo
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I tried

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Would have been cool

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Only the primary target shot gets bleed

hearty oak
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Damn it fatshark, that would have been too good of an idea i guess

potent echo
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It was my original theory for boltpistol

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But now it's a mainly sidegrade revolver

cosmic sigil
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guyz\

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ladies

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new internal talents for psykers

ornate hamlet
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Gamers, I think the new shotty has a weird interaction with true aim

cosmic sigil
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How so?

analog agate
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New map is quite hard. Beat histg on it with experienced guys and only one drop out

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But if you don’t have at least one competent teammate you are screwed. Unlike a lot of the other levels

ornate hamlet
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I can't seem to get a crit number with true aim stacked, but at the same time that orange number that shows up is higher than an actual crit I'm doing with the weapon when true aim is not stacked

meager trail
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how yall feel about cara on void now

dusk void
wind spruce
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Crits showing as weakspots and vice versa

wind spruce
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Bloody hell the shock maul is so fun

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Having a weapon you can bonk ragers with on psyker is beautiful

tawny pebble
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What's everyone's favorite ranged pairing for the shock mauls so far?

potent echo
wind spruce
potent echo
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Laspistol etc

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Recon

wind spruce
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Can't carry with two new weapons

haughty star
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quick

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what do for skillz if this is my only weapon

wind spruce
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But yeah you need unyielding damage, and carapace wouldn't go astray

haughty star
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i don't use trauma

tawny pebble
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skillz?

haughty star
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talents

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i know it's trash it's my second psykers only gun lol

analog agate
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That blast radius…

wind spruce
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You can run a standard blaze trauma build. Venting shriek spam is still great without it.

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Or run assail

haughty star
tawny pebble
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The damage is at least decent, but I don't know the break points on 71%

wind spruce
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assail w/ trauma goes hard. Don't pick up warp charges, get ep or DD

haughty star
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never used assail really

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i'll try er out

tawny pebble
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i'd agree that trauma's lack of effective rangd multi-target means you want assail

wind spruce
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If 71% doesn't hit the bruiser breakpoint take DD

tawny pebble
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BB is useful for extra long range sniping, but sometimes vent can take care of it

wind spruce
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Or staff LMB

tawny pebble
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staff LMB is fair, though aimsail always seems to fall off too hard fo rme

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probably skill issue

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Disrupt Destiny on Trauma is fantastic though, Irosk is right there

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boom whole crowds, you're bound to pick up precision bonus

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how well did hadron do

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i have all but 1 tier 4 blessing for shock mauls

jovial juniper
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Afaik thrust ain't it, but dunno if there's a difference on the mks

haughty star
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DD smite for real chads

jovial juniper
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L Presence

wind spruce
analog agate
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We don’t know the synergies for psyker yet. But for vet/zealot. You want unarmored/flak and skull crusher and High voltage

tawny pebble
wind spruce
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Yeah I'm running skull crusher and high voltage for dps

ionic sorrel
wind spruce
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And Entropic for testing

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If you're good with blocking its decent power

potent echo
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Have to play a little funky and let them hit you

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Unless it's ragers then it's free proc

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I also managed to shock one crusher by blocking the non overhead, cool stuff

wind spruce
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Yeah it's mainly for ragers and ogryns I'd say

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Doubt it's worth proccing in a horde

potent echo
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Troll flamers too KEKW_ogryn

tawny pebble
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Huh. Indignatus secondary horizontal swing combo after dashing is nicec.

potent echo
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H1 > L2 loop

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Pretty good clear

tawny pebble
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Or apparently also after jump.

potent echo
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It's from neutral KEKW_ogryn I think

tawny pebble
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Huh. I get overhead bonk from H1 if I don't slide or run-jump.

tawny pebble
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let it surprise no one that i was a fucking idiot

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huh

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is Enervating Threshold wall shield + opportunist shock maul anything?

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assuming a stun's a stun

potent echo
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Opportunist is a trap

pine jasper
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Lightning thumbsup_ogryn

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Is nice

potent echo
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Trie

bold cape
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so
did psyker get the db

lethal lagoon
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They got everything

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Has anyone had any issues with mods? My game is bricked atm after I turned them back on

potent echo
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Weapon customization update

lethal lagoon
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noper

potent echo
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Psych ward issue

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Showmerealstats issue

lethal lagoon
potent echo
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Check the logs like a nerd you nerd

lethal lagoon
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The launcher doesn't even start

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And I had to restart cause steam couldnt "stop" it

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There wasn't a process in task manager either

potent echo
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Sus

lethal lagoon
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Story of my life

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I just wanted to try the shotgun in the pysch, wasn't even gonna play

lethal lagoon
bold cape
lethal lagoon
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I hurt my thumb during my DLC prep and only beat ||messmar ||

bold cape
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damn

lethal lagoon
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I did spoil myself a bit cause I couldn't care less about boss spoilers, so no need to hide anything from me.

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I've been enjoying the martial arts a lot

bold cape
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its honestly so peak
final boss and the boss of jagged peak are some of my new favorite bosses ever

lethal lagoon
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I assume you used wing stance on the greatsword?

bold cape
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light greatswords are their new best moveset

lethal lagoon
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CURSE YOU ||BAYLE||

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Have you tried Rellana's light greatswords?

bold cape
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i used a longsword until i got rellanas twin blades, then used those until i got ledas sword

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so basically used them for like 90% of the dlc lmao

lethal lagoon
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I found the lack of poise to be too much for me

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I'm bit of a head basher, I need poise.

bold cape
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respecced into a 30/30/30/30 quality
didnt even use spells lmao, just the swords

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im very used to having no poise

lethal lagoon
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Without like a cheese build, it felt like just swinging the swords did more damage

bold cape
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the moveset is so damn cool
and the style, oh the style

lethal lagoon
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I wish the r2 did both swords

bold cape
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same

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i found myself liking the 2hand single light gs moveset better so swapped to ledas sword with her armor

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also they buffed bows
and they're actually like, good

lethal lagoon
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The sword she drops after the summon fight is a light gs? I think I'll probably switch to that then.

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Ooo Igon's bow seems like a must try then

bold cape
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ansbachs bow is so stylish

lethal lagoon
rotund fable
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Got this as a mission reward. Havent tried out the bold pistol yet though, is this good for a bolt pistol?

lethal lagoon
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Collateral is damage % no?

bold cape
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fashion is the most important thing, obviously

lethal lagoon
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I'm absoutely gonna do a run with wing stance light greatsword.

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It looks so fire buffed.

bold cape
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oh yea ive been meaning to try out that deflecting physick tear
if its as good as it sounds, might be able to play sekiro in er now

lethal lagoon
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I watched someone do a martial arts run with it

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The final fight was epic as shit.

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I wanna do malenia with it.

bold cape
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oooooooo

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imma try that out then

lethal lagoon
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I think because of the low guard, no one expected guard counter spam with marital arts, so it's pretty strong

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Or maybe they are rewarding high skill high reward

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Either way, it was super cool

bold cape
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the perfume bottles are cool, like really cool
like if you use a fire bottle in one hand and a frost in the other, it looks sick
but honestly i much prefer having the feedback of hitting something with an actual physical weapon

lethal lagoon
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The charged heavy is pretty pog

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They also did deflect godfrey with the martial arts, it was cinematic lmao

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I'm absolutely using it for the rest of my run

bold cape
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godfrey my beloved
tho imma be real pretty much every main fight in the dlc blows every base game boss out of the water

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at least for me

lethal lagoon
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Rellana was my first boss in the DLC and it was glorious.

bold cape
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they're actually difficult and take a bit more precision/learning patterns and openings
also they're just so well designed and fun to fight

lethal lagoon
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I wasn't a huge fan of the lion because it reminds of me tree spirits though

bold cape
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oh really? i really enjoyed the lion

lethal lagoon
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All I could think of was "fancy tree spirit" in my head

bold cape
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one of the only fromsoft beast fights i can actually enjoy

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i was honestly very surprised one of my new favorite bosses is a dragon, i did not expect that going into the dlc

lethal lagoon
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Good god the lead up to him

bold cape
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that second phase transition is literally the coolest shit

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i couldnt not have a smile on my face everytime it happened

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(which was many, many attempts)

lethal lagoon
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I died a bunch cause I would stop before the end to summon the npc

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If you haven't summoned him, you should do it on your next run

bold cape
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i accidentally hitlessed a few of the basegame bosses on my ng+ bow run, and rellana

lethal lagoon
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It's in the boss room, so you can "beat" the boss without summoning him.

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Just summon at like 10%

bold cape
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ah i see
i totally missed his summon

lethal lagoon
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I wish all the NPC summons were in the boss room now

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It's so much better, so I can get the fight I want with the lore I want

bold cape
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yea thatd be nice

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always sad to have to summon yuria against soul of cinder to get the ending

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i think im gonna skip on the dt update and flat out drop the game until the crafting update, havent played in like a week now

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gonna start bg3 tmrw and hopefully armored core 6 will be on the summer sale

lethal lagoon
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I don't really wanna roll the new weapons with the knowledge of a crafting update coming up

bold cape
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yea im just kinda tired with rng

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playing shadow of the erdtree has spoiled me with good game
now i need more

lethal lagoon
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My stupid thumb

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Well more like the stupid new controller I bought that messed up my thumb

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I literally bought it for the DLC and it messed my hand up.

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The joystick is so weird

bold cape
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pain

lethal lagoon
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Last time I spend more than $50 on a controller fuck me

bold cape
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i use a standard ps5 controller

lethal lagoon
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I thought that didn't work on PC?

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For elden ring

bold cape
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it does

lethal lagoon
bold cape
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it works with everything ive played so far
and for some, strange reason if it ever doesnt i can use dsx or something to make it compatible

lethal lagoon
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Welp, ordered one, wished I had known in the first place.

bold cape
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but yeah controllers fucking suck
they break and you need to send it in somewhere or flat out replace it
i played on xbox for years and went through several controllers just from them shitting the bed on me for no reason
i made the poor mistake of buying their elite controller, got it repaired 4 times, each after 2-3 months

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a key doesnt work on my board anymore? oh no ~25c switch replacement

lethal lagoon
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Yeah, the xbox one I bought has a really weird joystick. It has a weird amount of resitance and is like sandpapery

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Maybe someone likes that, but my thumb does not

bold cape
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also wish i could use my ps5 controller on xbox without having to spend $100 on an adapter, cause thats not happening lmao

tawny pebble
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I see folks doing some insane numbers with Surge staves

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is that just the blitz cancel thing?

lethal lagoon
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Nah.

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I mean it helps, but it's not needed.

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Just spam surge and creeping flames shriek

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It's brain off playstyle

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I'm too lazy to blitz cancel these days, most games are 600k-900k with surge.

tawny pebble
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hmm, is there any build that isn't flame based?

lethal lagoon
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For surge?

tawny pebble
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oui

lethal lagoon
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No

tawny pebble
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boowomp

lethal lagoon
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I mean you can run LMB surge

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Here's my super meta LMB build

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For surge you'd run run n gun and nexus.

bold cape
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i was thinking about camping melks and looking at it every day but its like
probably healthier if i uninstall and distance myself completely until the crafting update comes so im actually invigorated to get back into the game

lethal lagoon
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You mean with the app?

bold cape
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yea i have the extension on my browser

lethal lagoon
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I usually just a have a tab open. You'll just forget about it eventually so you might as well do it

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Heh, they added an elden ring "update" explaining scartree frags

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I reallly hope they don't nerf anything. The vast majority of bad reviews are from China, who knows what's going on there.

bold cape
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i seriously hope they dont touch any of the bosses

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98% of people complaining about the difficulty are either angry because they stomped the base game and were expecting to come into the dlc and beat bosses in 5 goes, or the people who're too ashamed for some reason to use summons and leave a bad review cause they themselves arent good enough to beat the game without specific tools put in the game for them lmao

lethal lagoon
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I mean more the people complaining aren't even the audience of the game. I don't think it's even legal in china.

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They are like 70% of the negative reviews

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So the DLC is "mixed" but it's not an accurate perspective, but of course the clickbait "news" articles don't mention that.

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So I'm hoping they don't make decisions based on that

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But yeah, I think the base game was a little too easy too cheese, so when they shored up a lot of problems, it kinda changed things.

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From software very clearly added TONS of summon mats and summons to the DLC

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Even a seperate scaling for summons on DLC

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They are like "Don't be mad, just summon."

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@wind spruce If you post a video of SGSG lemme know.

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I dunno if I like the shotgun based on what I've tested in the grinder.

potent echo
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Could it be that

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Elden ring isnt fun?

lethal lagoon
wind spruce
lethal lagoon
wind spruce
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But I was running it with shock maul

lethal lagoon
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Reload spd might be too slow for SG

plucky flax
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Open perks pog

wind spruce
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So that was warping things a bit

lethal lagoon
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Reloading during Sg always feels bad

feral knoll
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Does Psyker use the shock mail decently well

ornate hamlet
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Did psyker get any shadow nerfs

potent echo
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None

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All buffs

ornate hamlet
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Any shadow buffs then

potent echo
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Define shadow

wind spruce
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Finally got it just now

ornate hamlet
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takes a shit
"Behold, a shadow"

lethal lagoon
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Breh if it's looking like a shadow, you need to get that checked out

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💩

vagrant reef
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On the purge staff should I modify 25% unarmored damage or 25% infested damage?

lethal lagoon
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Both are bad but I guess infested is better? Probably want another opinion.

supple dock
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You want unarmored

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There's 3 types of infested enemy in the game

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poxwalker, poxburster, pox hounds

ornate hamlet
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I think unarmored doesn't affect the dreg gunners because their body is flak

lethal lagoon
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unarmored body is weaker horde, and the 1 ranged mob and 1 bruiser.

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I was thinking you'd want to do more damage to the strongest horde and throw in some dog damage

supple dock
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I feel like those issues with purg is handled by pressing LMB

lethal lagoon
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I mean they are both shit, so we are polishing a turd here.

supple dock
potent echo
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It's all there that I know of

vagrant reef
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Yeah I need to rebless warp nexus 3 to a 4

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So that’s leaves me one extra mod

lethal lagoon
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Uhh, don't do that.

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It's better to change both perks

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
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If you have tier 3+ warp nexus and flurry, then changing both perks is normally better

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Especially if the perks are the useless unarmored and infested

plucky flax
vagrant reef
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I have flak and maniac on my other purge staff so should I go with those?

supple dock
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flak/crit will generally give you more bang

lethal lagoon
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Flak is mandatory. Second one can be 5% crit, manics, or unyielding.

supple dock
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but maniac is fine

lethal lagoon
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Make sure you have high cloud radius and 76%+ burn as well

plucky flax
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Only very based people go flak unyielding

lethal lagoon
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So not you

plucky flax
vagrant reef
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77 burn and 80 radius

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And by crit do you mean crit chance instead of crit damage?

supple dock
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chance yes

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nobody sane will ever tell you to go crit damage

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unless there's some massive change to the formula

plucky flax
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I don't think crit chance is that good staff has 15% extra chance already

vagrant reef
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Thanks guys

lethal lagoon
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Crit damage is dookie indeed

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💩

patent wing
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ive been busy; any1 got a tldr of the update for a fellow spyker?

ornate hamlet
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The invisible psyker

potent echo
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Updoot, 3 new weapons for psyker, new map

patent wing
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any important balance changes

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boltgun spyker a thing?

potent echo
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Read patch notes loregryn

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New weapons are acquired taste

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Obscurus and DS2 buff

patent wing
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'Surge'
Now also grants 5% Crit Chance.

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wat

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'Blazing Spirit'
Tier 3:
Stacks Per Crit: 2 -> 3
Max Stacks: 10 -> 9.

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wattttt

wind spruce
patent wing
wind spruce
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There's a tier 4 blazing spirit on force swords anyway

patent wing
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ah

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‘Chastise the Wicked’ and ‘Fury of the Faithful’
100% Rending -> 100% Melee Rending

gg zealot useless

wind spruce
quartz barn
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Wait so blaze 3 got tuned while 4 remains the same

potent echo
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Puzzling

wind spruce
patent wing
quartz barn
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Either that or streamline it

patent wing
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and the restore 5% toughness on crit also does not work properly imo because emptying a mag on columnus gives like 20% toughness back

quartz barn
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Idk t4 values but t3 went from needing 5 crits for max stacks to 3, which is a massive difference

wind spruce
patent wing
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💀

wind spruce
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EE definitely works fine as far as I can tell, but sometimes it does feel like I shouldn't have taken that shotgunner slug

marble crater
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Exposed as fake psyker main

wind spruce
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Hahahha

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Suck it zealots

quartz barn
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Maybe shotgun slug got altered unintentionally

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Due to per shot > per hit stuff

spice veldt
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so sad that fatshark would nerf obviously stupid stuff

worn heath
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whaddyamean I cant recharge a 40s cd in 8 seconds?

potent echo
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Psyker is dead, no more surge staff EP bug unplayable

spice veldt
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it's so joever

wind spruce
quartz barn
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Simply run cd on special/elite kill ez

marble crater
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To be fair, it was pretty fun to spam charge for the voice lines alone

potent echo
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Psyker one is a buff though, but don't tell them

wind spruce
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Can we nerf vets cooldown node now pls fatshark

quartz barn
worn heath
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if anything'd be as close to the psword nerf reviewbomb the CD on elite kill'd be it

patent wing
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plasma gun still no nerf

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devs are vet only players

spice veldt
lethal lagoon
spice veldt
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my brother in christ other finesse weapons exist

lethal lagoon
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Not anymore

spice veldt
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and zealot is the other class with a big weakspot/crit bonus in the form of duellist

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and chainsword being one of the few weapons whose crowd clear benefits from crits

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also +50% dr

wind spruce
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And you still get decent cdr

lethal lagoon
spice veldt
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mfs when one aspect of a rather stacked kit gets nerfed

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and i'm saying this as a crit zealot main

lethal lagoon
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Right, so you've already played it to death

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So you aren't attached

lethal lagoon
spice veldt
patent wing
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ah ur toughness bar so small now i see it

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xd

lethal lagoon
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They could have nerfed the % before touching the multi hit part

spice veldt
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ah yeah i have it like that it to keep it compact

spice veldt
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it's a simple and incremental change that anti-nerfers all like to talk about

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"small changes instead of big ones"

worn heath
spice veldt
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what is there to complain about except for the fact that it's a nerf

wind spruce
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Zealots are absolutely fine lol

spice veldt
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so tragic

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yeah FotF has always been a stacked ult

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and the ranged armour downgrade has been a long time cooming

wind spruce
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Some retuning is warranted now, but zealots are still great

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Flamer needs love since they specifically nerfed it because of fotf

worn heath
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am I misremembering when they atttempted fixing chastise ranged rending early in the games life as a bug fix but community was up in arms about it and they backtracked

spice veldt
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and left-side middle still having one of the better nodes to path through

potent echo
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Blessing changes but overpressure still broken KEKW_ogryn

wind spruce
spice veldt
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i accidentally disabled crosshairhud since i'm on my laptop instead of my desktop and i made a booboo

wind spruce
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I love the minimalist style tho

spice veldt
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shrimply just count every bullet

wind spruce
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I want your health and toughness bars

spice veldt
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yeah i keep it small so that it can be near the center without cluttering what i see

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with hudtweaker, you'll get my health/toughness look if you put the toughness behind the health bar and shrink the height of the health bar

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you'll need to do it for every health segment (esp if you dare to play martyr zealot), but you can copy and paste what you did for one bar to the other bars in user_settings.config

potent echo
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Why would you do this

lethal lagoon
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I can't handle healthbars around the crosshair cause I'll just ignore them.

spice veldt
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because it looks nice and is compact

potent echo
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I don't need healthbars because I never get hit chadgryn

spice veldt
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so true

spice veldt
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UI gaming

wind spruce
spice veldt
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goated mod

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oh yeah and i made the health background bigger to act as a sort of border around the health, and same goes for the toughness bar background

spice veldt
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what are you doing here

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psyker is your lowest level class

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get out of here

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you have no rights

lunar hollow
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he immediately attacks

potent echo
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Lore accurate

spice veldt
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inciting speech

ornate hamlet
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HATRD

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E

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D

potent echo
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Erectile

marble crater
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Destiny

ornate hamlet
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FATED 2 ERECT

patent wing
spice veldt
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you're a real psyker unlike josho

ornate hamlet
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My highest level is 30 chadgryn

patent wing
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issa bit emberassing that i have a vet ik
but i tried to level it for some friends to lure them into the game

wind spruce
patent wing
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hadron just bricked me 5 bolt pistols in a row

potent echo
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Melee vet > the entire zealot archetype

patent wing
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the surge staff cancel tech works via blitz swap right

ornate hamlet
patent wing
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wtf this cancel tech is giga busted

fluid aspen
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The new mission is quite open. Not many corridors or chokepoints where I can make good use of Voidstrike hmm I'd imagine it would be similar for a Warpfire Purg build as well because of the distances

potent echo
patent wing
potent echo
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My blitz is 3

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So I just tap 32

patent wing
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hm problem is the staff-draw time

quartz barn
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Only section where it falls short is the first event

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But tbh that depends on the enemies that spawn, i had 90% gunners on the first run, and mostly maulers/ragers with bombers the second time

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Was on high int auric damn

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The section in the snow is very long however so thats perfect for void

patent wing
fluid aspen
patent wing
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crusher kill time goes down from 7.4 to 6.2~

fluid aspen
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Guess I'll be sticking to my Assail build for the new mission. Smite has not been needed much unless it's Auric Damnation with huge mauler or rager squads.

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And my assail build has the shield which helps a lot when there are a bunch of gunners and ranged blebs spread out over a big room

patent wing
#

obv im doing it wrong

fluid aspen
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And assail is good for hordes that are not lined up

potent echo
quartz barn
#

Highly pref mauler/ragers here

patent wing
marble crater
#

Surge and Trauma worked well in the new mission for me

quartz barn
#

Areas at the end are really open so gunners spread out a lot

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Hard carried the pubs with bubble

spice veldt
patent wing
spice veldt
#

looks like it

upper sun
#

bruh i forgot how bad crafting was

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1mil dockets and 2 weapons above 370 from the new stuff

devout sluice
#

my best trauma yet, idk if i should just change one blessing to go blaze + crit on peril or flurry for more armor strip, i already play with blaze talents. If not blessings then what perks should i choose?

sacred crane
devout sluice
marble crater
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Man the new stat positions really mess me up

upper sun
#

theyre changing it every patch

marble crater
#

I just got used to the old ones too

upper sun
#

👴 its tru were very old and stuck in our ways

patent steeple
devout sluice
#

hmm i guess yeah ill go flak/carapce perks and flurry/brittelness on blessings

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since i already have good blaze trauma anyway

distant topaz
#

I swear im not dumb

upper sun
#

I just need crit damage instead of unyielding

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and the voidstrike of cancer is completed

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i can NOT believe they buffed surge

patent steeple
paper harbor
#

What with surge with spamming light attack two shot

upper sun
#

yeah

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but with that crit rate its pretty much an elites perk KEKW_ogryn

paper harbor
#

15% crits base total

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With nexus you toast

upper sun
#

dont forget the node

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maybe even the aura KEK

patent wing
#

i have a lvl 230 psyker in my team with shred rampage ds4 xx

upper sun
#

hes real i vouch for him

devout sluice
molten pond
#

What does Trauma Staff do? Weaponise PTSD?

patent steeple
devout sluice
paper harbor
patent steeple
upper sun
patent wing
upper sun
#

btw the performance problems are fixed for everyone right?

cosmic sigil
#

my god this fucks

potent echo
#

It beats

patent wing
#

surce cancel gives around 13% more dps im not sure if its worth the hassle

devout sluice
#

stack block staminca cost reduction on curios and weapon + deflector = melee tank

cosmic sigil
#

i was doing that a year ago, i try new things!

spice veldt
#

fyi the block eff given by deflector only applies to ranged attacks instead of to all attacks

patent wing
devout sluice
#

you can quell while dodge sliding

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2-3% per shot is negligible, not to mention being able to tank DH with same technique in mind

devout sluice
patent wing
#

cant kill it with deimos or illisi

spice veldt
#

yeah it leaves out the fact that it only applies to ranged

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description shenanigans

patent wing
#

i mean technically you can kill a DH with illisi or deimos, but it takes so much time lol

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only ds4 and mk6 can kill a DH without too much risk

devout sluice
#

ugh, still very elpful v shotgunners or being gunned down in the open, stacked block reduction with kinetic deflection talent makes you effectively take 1/3 stamina as peril % damage in melee anyway, and close to nothing per shot in ranged

devout sluice
patent wing
#

yes

devout sluice
#

imo ds and deimos are perfect

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fs get deflector

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ds get ripost precognition

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it is a 50/50 for me

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but i love deflector

marble crater
devout sluice
#

deimos can still do 500-1000 dmg on weakspots on mutants, hounds , 2nd heavy stagger any enemy in headshot

devout sluice
marble crater
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Like you never got annoyed when a store moved an item somewhere else KEKW_ogryn

devout sluice
#

i guess having laundry misplaced can incite a minor panic attack

spice veldt
#

they must know what i know 😔

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i shall curse them with my knowledge

upper sun
#

maybe one day people will embrace the deimos of stamina block and deflector

sacred crane
#

HOLY FUCK THIS GAME RIGHT AT THE END OF A MATCH I GET DISCONNECTED WHAT THE FUCK

devout sluice
#

knowledge above all else, this transaction is appreciated

upper sun
#

man i hope other people craft the new weapons

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i spent 1mil dockets on 3 bricks

true rover
#

feels bad

quartz barn
#

I havent bothered yet

#

Nice first impressions

#

Boltpistol seems ass from testing

#

Powermaul stun is cool, but does no dmg

#

Pickaxe is ogryn only zzz

#

Atleast the shotty seems strong, but new map favors long range xd

#

However, gunker with new shotty potential?

cosmic sigil
#

scryer shotgun with scattershot + double barrel is something yeah

cosmic sigil
cosmic sigil
#

at least on zealot

wind spruce
#

Feels lackluster

wind spruce
devout sluice
#

no, you dont need stamina with kinetic deflection

wind spruce
#

Incorrect

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Stamina makes it more efficient

#

The more stamina you have, the less peril generated per attack blocked

short lily
#

So basically this update has been mostly a dud for psykers?

devout sluice
#

wow

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that is amazing

#

2 great nifts of psyker i learned today

#

thanks

wind spruce
#

no wuckaz!

devout sluice
#

why take stamina regen tho?

wind spruce
#

idk, it was 8 months ago i was probably just experimenting

#

you don't really need stam regen on psyker

upper sun
#

was punishment really that good on zealot?

#

why are people so mad on the forums?

spice veldt
#

what they be saying

#

they gave a pretty good reasoning about why they nerfed it from what i remember

upper sun
#

"Punishment talent was perfect the way it was. Nerfing it from 150% to 25% is exaggerated. And the excuses about “Hammer of Faith” making relevant is ludicrous. You just removed possibilities."

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"Invocation of Death no longer triggering on every hit. SO many players had SO much fun with this since the game launched, and now you just decided to take it away. You disgust me!"

spice veldt
#

oh god

upper sun
#

invo should be deleted unironically

feral verge
lunar hollow
feral verge
#

but thoughts on bolt pistol

#

on psyker, in partiuclar

spice veldt
#

the bolt pistol should be pointed to your head

#

and the trigger pulled

#

PERSONA

feral verge
#

mods, help

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@mods

upper sun
spice veldt
#

so true

lunar hollow
feral verge
#

@spice veldt @lunar hollow are we playing today

upper sun
feral verge
#

i dont have work

spice veldt
#

if i can find the usb for my gaming mouse then sure

lunar hollow
#

brotentially

spice veldt
#

i unplugged it and left it somewhere that i can't remember for some god forsaken reason

feral verge
#

lmao

lunar hollow
#

amazing

spice veldt
#

nvm i just found them in the ziplock bag containing my allen wrenches, right next to the case where i usually keep my usbs

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alright i'm not stupid and i didn't accidentally put them into one of the other boxes since i'm moving out of a house

lunar hollow
#

back to ur pond?

spice veldt
#

no.

warped perch
#

OMG HELLO

spice veldt
#

oh god

warped perch
#

Arco Arco Arco

#

Said ur name in the mirror three times

#

Come to me

spice veldt
#

i just survived three dice rolls

warped perch
#

You will appear in my summoning circle

spice veldt
#

are you trying to kidnap me

warped perch
#

Of course not

spice veldt
#

i can see from the capital letters that you're on your phone

#

spare me, please

warped perch
#

What do you mean the capital letters

#

Arco Arco Arco Arco

spice veldt
#

cuz phone auto-capitalizing

warped perch
#

Oh nice

#

Let’s roll again

#

Arco Arco Arco Arco

spice veldt
#

and only insane people capitalize their sentences on desktop w/o finishing it off with a period

warped perch
#

Arco Arco Arco

spice veldt
#

stan you make me proud

#

to see you grow

warped perch
#

Arco abrigj due Arco

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Whoops

spice veldt
#

you're a sick bastard

warped perch
#

Do you have biphobia disorder

#

Bipolar

spice veldt
#

yeah i hate bi people specifically

warped perch
#

Your mood changed inastanyou

#

Instantly

spice veldt
#

i am a normal and well-functioning person with no mood disorders (lie)

lunar hollow
warped perch
#

Specimen

lunar hollow
#

what

spice veldt
#

i'm trying to replicate his text and i end up sounding like yoda

#

i should study it so that i can bust it out at critical moments and pretend to be mentally ill

upper sun
#

"If you were impact stacking, you needed fully stacked prenerf Punishment, fully stacked Hammerblow 4, and Hammer of Faith to knock Crushers with heavy crusher attacks."

#

that does not sound true at all

spice veldt
#

yeah a complete lie

#

hammerblow is all you need for normals, and the special doesn't need any impact buff at all

upper sun
#

first the vets now the zealots the forum so fun to read

spice veldt
#

unless they're referring to knocking them down instead of staggering them, but like keeping them standing is also good for just whamming on their head

#

such a weird metric by which to complain about

upper sun
#

knocking them down instead of a medium stagger makes them harder to kill because you have to reposition

spice veldt
upper sun
#

"I played exclusively Zealot, and exclusively with Fury of the Faithful / Invocation of Death with a Heavy Chainsword. And yes, think Fatshark hates iconic 40K weapons like Chainswords, Boltgun and Thunder Hammer. They instead want you to use shitty Combat Knives and Revolvers."

#

yeah thammer is so hated

#

whats the trash target limit for a charged heavy 7000?

marble crater
upper sun
#

"Fury enabled tons of different builds to work thanks to its unique and fun properties. Now all of them are dead in the water because a single Crusher will render you useless, so you’re basically forced to take the Revolver if you’re not using an anti-Carapace melee or be a huge liability to your team. If there were more viable ranged options to fulfill that role that would be one thing, but there just aren’t."

spice veldt
#

being forced to take anti-carapace melees (7 out of 11 zealot melees)

lunar hollow
#

"if you're not using an anti-carapace melee" is doing so much heavy lifting

feral verge
#

zealot is dead

#

didnt you know

spice veldt
#

shot him in the kneecaps

upper sun
#

"I didn’t see anything noting invocation of death was changed, but from what I’m reading here it no longer triggers on everything you hit, and just triggers on a per instance of crit basis? That’s extra weird then as it is pushing even more players towards a knife and faster attack weapons common to all classes and farther away from the class unique weapons like heavy evis and thunder hammer…"

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evi and hammer unplayable its so over billions have to sell gear their gear

wind spruce
#

Zealots be fuming

#

Such fun

spice veldt
#

i'm sure there's no incentive to use melee weapons that aren't knife besides crit cdr

lunar hollow
#

i must chastise every 6 seconds or i instantly die

spice veldt
#

it's so weird

upper sun
#

"The reality of the change is that maybe what, 1 genuinely meta gun suffers (IAG). Meanwhile HH literally lost its entire reason to exist on Zealot, which is its good flak mod turning it into a good crusher killer with FotF. Shotties also a harder sell now."

warped perch
upper sun
#

damn can no longer ciag crushers to death with 5 bullets instead of a full mag

#

its so over zealot bros

marble crater
#

I don't think I ever used fury with a ranged weapon KEKW_ogryn

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Once, for shocking stuff penance

upper sun
#

i have its fun but its unfair what you can do to crushers

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"Nerfing Fury quite literally killed the Zealot class as far as I’m concerned. I’m very close to dropping the game."

marble crater
#

I always killed crushers with rev heavy from evis

upper sun
#

"Making builds totally incapable of dealing with certain kinds of enemies in a reasonable time frame is the worst possible balancing move Fatshark could have possibly made. The number of viable high tier builds on Zealot was just cut by 75%. Good job, guys.

Fatshark can continue pushing incomplete builds that force mandatory team play for all 12 people still playing the game. I won’t be one of them."

upper sun
#

i dont get what the issue is

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marty is the most optimal build on zealot because wound curios come in at brunts unbrickable

#

its the only build for zealot as far as im concerned

marble crater
upper sun
#

oh nooo someone has to block or dodge instead of charging every 5 seconds for toughness :(((((

marble crater
#

Just play momentum loregryn

upper sun
#

and dodge off a cliff?

#

no thank you

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oh yeah new lines too

marble crater
#

That remind me that I need to play my vet for new female cutthroat lines

upper sun
#

the cadian?

marble crater
#

Yes

upper sun
#

wow people still use that personality?

upper sun
#

the personality scourge was like a second fall of cadia

#

i havent seen any cadians in so long

lunar hollow
#

vraks 3 w/ headhunter on its own is good crusher dps

#

the fuck

marble crater
#

Cadia personality is not as bad as people make it out to be, imo. I started with male cadian and they really don't talk about cadia that much, plus the shout voice lines are the best

lunar hollow
#

why would he choose headhunters as an example

#

good lord

upper sun
#

ye the shouts were the only good part

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"Yes ,I want to play some other ranged weapons than Zarona and Bolter on Zealot
Here is one comment in reddit thread that is articulated well and resonates with my exact thoughts:" this is too long im not copying the whole thing but you can imagine

marble crater
#

I switched from male cadian to female loose cannon for a change, but the shout lines are getting to me, so I changed to female cadian when they started to add more lines in one of the recent patches

upper sun
#

loose cannons have awful shout lines

marble crater
#

Yep

upper sun
#

UHHH BOOTS OR SOMETHING

jovial juniper
#

Put the karking boots in

upper sun
#

B-BOOOTS

jovial juniper
#

Me when I'm scared of Puss in Boots

upper sun
#

oh yeah chastise doesnt downgrade armor anymore

#

i cant oneshot crushers on bodyhits anymore with hammer its so over bros unplayable

marble crater
#

Still does for melee I thought

upper sun
#

nope 100% rending

jovial juniper
#

Yeah, Rending

#

That's strong btw

#

Because it actually affects Unyielding

upper sun
#

how many secret inspect animations are there? i just know of one for knife

jovial juniper
#

Vets also have that animation

marble crater
#

What's the difference? I thought people said it downgraded the armor because it's a lot of rending Sitgryn

upper sun
#

now its just rending before it treated carap like flak flak like unarmored rest idk

marble crater
#

Did that also count for damage perks? loregryn

upper sun
#

nope original armor type

#

did they do something to bolters? they feel different now

marble crater
#

loregryn I should go play zealot and see what all the fuss is about

upper sun
#

no its unplayble

#

pls buff bolter its so weak

#

needs 700 shots to kill a crusher unusable

hearty oak
jovial juniper
#

Because the way ADM works

upper sun
#

well at least with hammer

#

it has shitty carap damage

marble crater
patent wing
jovial juniper
#

Yeah, it consumes the buff

#

On melee, one of the reasons why Ranged chastise worked

jovial juniper
upper sun
#

weakspot is fine tho

#

they need to make mouse movement easier during the charge tbh that should fix it

patent wing
#

I was just annoyed to not have access to anti armor guns beside rev

jovial juniper
#

Welp, it's 100% rending now
And with Invocation liking attack speed instead of cleave

#

It's prime knife hours

#

And I hate it

quartz barn
#

Oh no not another rise of invis knife zealots

fluid aspen
#

Did Psykers even get anything new this update? HUH

wind spruce
marble crater
#

We also got some nice buffs

wind spruce
#

FFS

fluid aspen
hearty oak
cosmic sigil
#

Obscurus is my gf now

marble crater
cosmic sigil
#

Relationship with Deimos ended

wind spruce
#

And perfect timing buff

#

Which is actually really big

hearty oak
#

Surge for voidstrike getting a casual 5% more crit, recon lasguns actually somewhat better (Could be more so), A Bolt pistol that does nice elite damage, mk2 DS got a nifty buff to its H1 attack so its an actual choice and blazing spirit is easier to get off on the Deimos if im not wrong.

marble crater
#

Surge (blessing) also got +5% crit chance

kindred ivy
cloud sequoia
marble crater
kindred ivy
#

is blazing spirit worht on deimos even?

#

that thing alerady oneshots no?

hearty oak
#

Still no

#

lmao

kindred ivy
#

LMAO

#

:XD:

#

i dont think its worth in general

#

obscurus doesnte ven need to chareg up and kills elites fast

#

ilisi just cleaves and kill

#

also, smite , as usually strong as hell

marble crater
#

Biggest buff of all is probably every weapon being able to shoot through teammates now

kindred ivy
#

REALL!?!??!

#

WAIT THEY DID THAT?

#

why the fuck did they even buff EP smite to 200%

#

from 135%

#

i dont get it

hearty oak
kindred ivy
#

smite doesnt evne need the fucking dmg

cloud sequoia
#

people complaining smite doesnt do dmg KEKW_ogryn

#

the reddit/steam user

kindred ivy
#

it doesnt need dmg

#

legit

#

just fucking smite

#

its not that hard

hearty oak
cloud sequoia
kindred ivy
#

if u need dmg just shoot a revovler once at a elite

#

and get perilous stack

#

on the elitesarond

#

and keep smiting

#

its almost like u have a perfect loop of smite -> knowck them down -> shoot elite -> smite

#

or smite -> vent -> smite

wind spruce
#

One perilous stack isn't going to do anything without vent on too of it

#

It's also a very small area of effect

kindred ivy
hearty oak
#

90% of my pub games go a lot smoother when i bring smite

kindred ivy
#

it actually helps

kindred ivy
#

i dont evne run anything else that generates peril

wind spruce
kindred ivy
#

so i can smite for longer

kindred ivy
#

and smite CAN run rampant after the 2nd eliet kill

#

and possibly vent

wind spruce
#

3 stacks does absolutely jack shit

hearty oak
#

The rest will be if your team has the boss dps. If not, hope you have deimos with unyielding damage

kindred ivy
#

2 stacks

#

is 6 fire stacks

#

2 kills *

wind spruce
#

Yeah, that's better

patent wing
#

how can ppl play without clean force blocking; (played a few games without due to crashes; needed to update mod)

kindred ivy
#

6 fire stacks is moer elss the same dps as smite (or i think used to be when EP smite was 135%)

kindred ivy
#

enemies cant hit me

patent wing
#

force swords literally garbage with that blocking

patent wing
#

cant see shit

kindred ivy
#

dont use anything that generates peril

wind spruce
kindred ivy
#

and just smite

patent wing
#

deimos with unyielding then does nothing*25%?

hearty oak
wind spruce
hearty oak
#

it does. Maybe not against a chaos spawn cause of how fast they move and swing

wind spruce
#

I wouldn't know because deimos is just a downgrade to duelling sword

#

So I don't use it

patent wing
#

h2 and u got no time fo that

#

deimos with DD and power blessings feels like ilisi thats the advantage

#

horde clear with cara dmg

hearty oak
#

id much rather take the L than fight a chaos spawn solo tbh. Just cock and ball torture

patent wing
#

maybe i got in on video

#

blaze trauma op

hearty oak
#

I know it is. But if were down to solos and its with people i dont know, im just gonna blow myself off the map

patent wing
#

fsfs

#

i tried the new boltpistol and it still has that stupid boltgun feeling

cosmic sigil
patent wing
#

no accuracy on 10meter unless you wait 3 sec between each shot how fkin bad

hearty oak
#

It does but its like the revolver without the ridiculous rending sadly

#

At least its got puncture

wind spruce
#

Revolver handles way better

patent wing
#

i guess i will still build a good one for my gunker build just because it can open up bulwarks if aimed down

#

cara dmg, unyielding dmg, bulwark dmg is kinda gud

#

but revolver waaaay better in killing elites and specials like a sniper

hearty oak
#

Yeah thats all its really good for. I find it really fun though paired with smite and a DS or Deimos

patent wing
#

yeah

hearty oak
#

Was really hoping the proximity blessing and puncture paired well and caused bleeding to all enemies caught in the explosion of the round

#

and not a direct hit

#

Cause surely that be too fun

dry zenith
#

It'd be honestly too effective. Isn't bleed damage also affected by other damage multipliers?

hearty oak
#

Not really. Staffs exists

#

Smite and vent exists

#

Who would really care. It just be cool

#

Also

#

Assail exists

dry zenith
#

Smite is a glorified pause button that requires you to be stationary. Bleed on explosion would be magdump and run away, wait for stacks to do the killing

#

but then again they did nerf bleed

#

so you might be right

#

I agree that the bolt pistol is anemic at best

#

recon is finally a fun alternative for gunpsyker though. I'm liking the changes there

hearty oak
#

Cant even 'magdump' the bolt pistol properly like you can with the bolter

patent wing
#

didnt read the changes why accatran gud now?

dry zenith
hearty oak
#

Might as well give it some good alts

hearty oak
dry zenith
#

you can't melt as fast as a columnus 5 but you can melt for longer

patent wing
#

so they might be good ´vs unyielding finally

#

but they nerfed burn stacks right

dry zenith
#

down to 9 yeah

#

but that's for infernus only right?

#

or did they do the same for soulblaze?

#

I'm trying to get the right rolls for a DOT gunspyker right now. As it stands you can quickly apply burn stacks with infernus, soulblaze with an elite kill and then go to town with a bleed knife.

hearty oak
dry zenith
#

yeah lasgun enjoyers are straight up having a bad time

#

the 4 that are left

hearty oak
#

The infernus nerf had to have been a guess from FS cause no one would have cared for the 12 stacks. It might have been a good choice to use finally

#

unless we're scaling stuff down for heresy players

dry zenith
#

I wonder if they did it because the old recon lasgun vet build did too much damage with the added stats

dry zenith
dry zenith
#

it would explain a lot lol

#

also did they finally fix all the useless blessings on trauma like rending shockwave and surge?

hearty oak
#

Useless? Wasn't rending Shockwave the coping alternative to if you didn't get blazing spirits? Not bad and can cause brittleness if the team doesn't have anyone to afflict it

#

And surge just got a flat 5%crit chance buff with it

dry zenith
#

I remember reading that it didn't work in the forums a while a go

#

surge on trauma only works on the primary not the alt fire

#

which is useless

hearty oak
#

Oh. I wouldn't know

#

I never tried it

dry zenith
#

there's a lot of wonky blessings on staves tbh

fluid aspen
#

Haven't seen Disrupt Destiny stacks on my HUD this update yet

hearty oak
#

And not enough to change them either. I been saying they should redo the special on the staffs to make them stand out more

fluid aspen
#

Not like I should know if I should face down a Mutie because I can stab it in the face in 1 hit or not

hearty oak
fluid aspen
hearty oak
#

Low priority like most things

upper sun
#

i was told by a playtester there would be a fix coming for a weapon i used

#

it got delayed 💀

hearty oak
#

Which one

fluid aspen
upper sun
#

heavy 2 draw time for evi

hearty oak
#

Draw time?

upper sun
#

charge time

#

yeah its a bit longer than heavy 1 and its driving me nuts

potent echo
#

game keeps freezing, idk what the hell is a particleworld but it sure aint helping the experience

hearty oak
#

Which mk?

upper sun
#

15

patent wing
#

turn on debug mode and open up case

hearty oak
# upper sun 15

Mmm I think my 1 trick pony zealot friend said you can quickswap to the mk15 and do the overhead quickly.

#

Don't know about the draw time for the H2 though

upper sun
#

bruh i am not about to do 15 extra actions to be 1 ms faster

#

i play evi to avoid carpel tunnel

jovial juniper
#

KEKW_ogryn 💀

#

Evis15, well known for its lights

#

Instead of rev heavy

upper sun
#

😡

#

but muh easy to hit heavies for big deeps

jovial juniper
#

It's a beast that quenches my thirst for blood by using Bloodthirsty

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Think I never paid attention to H2

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Since rev resets to H1

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Lmao

upper sun
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i like using chastise as soon as the revved attack connects so i dont waste a chastise :3

marble crater
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Rev attack and chastise is also more damage than chastise and rev attack, that's just smart

patent wing
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ty emprah

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thing is kinda like a lorentz for normal sized humans eh

quartz barn
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Rip mobility

dry zenith
quartz barn
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Overall rating is pretty bad lmao

radiant frigate
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does mobility on a shotgun ever matter, it's going to suck regardless

dry zenith
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dumdum + infernus and crit chance with flak does wonders on mael

radiant frigate
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1.75 sprint cost garbage

dry zenith
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20 shots to kill a reaper with scriers active. roughly 30 without. recon enjoyers may rejoice

patent steeple
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btw, Malefic Momentum's talent description is broken, and idk if it still works...?

dry zenith
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added benefit being that you can kill bulwark packs without having to run around like a maniac or bait out the attack when using columnus

quartz barn
patent steeple
near wyvern
thorn cedar
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Easy enough to test.

haughty star
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dude the new mission is so fucking rough lol

upper sun
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middle event is hell

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zero cover to be found

marble crater
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Bring your bubble

upper sun
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sir i only play chastise and vent

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if i die i die

marble crater
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Then your only choice is to git gud

dry zenith
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If I explode, I explode

jovial juniper
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Like the intro to the second part, feels like a proper ambush

hardy raft
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me shtting a knife at a heretic's back 5 times to reuse my shiny metal

marble crater
hearty dagger
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So uhh

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I was picking up an Agni

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I was like "Huh i wonder if the indignatus has the same stats as this one, i can't be arsed to go check so let me buy one"

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I'm bricked up and fully aware that it's going to get bricked

hardy raft
hearty dagger
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Dude this is my first 380

dry zenith
hearty dagger
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Normally i just say "hell yeah" everytime i roll anything above 360

marble crater
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Good luck sure

silver portal
hearty dagger
dry zenith
hearty dagger
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I'm gonna

dry zenith
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I enjoy to see a fellow sibling suffer

hearty dagger
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Need to run some missions

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i'm dry on mats

dry zenith
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who isn't with this system

potent echo
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im dry

hoary badge
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crit damage is still one of the least impactful damage talents in the pool regardless if you're running a crit build

hearty dagger
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I mean