psyker-class

[fading depot]

its the number one most iconic weapon in the entire franchise

[hearty oak]

It unironically is on zealot

[stiff falcon]

It isn’t

[fading depot]

What build?

I prefer the incendiary shotgun

[potent echo]

Cavalcade

[fading depot]

on my zealot that is

[fading depot]

that sounds very

ammo demanding

[stiff falcon]

It is

[potent echo]

Yea it's a boss deleter

[hearty oak]

Shatter rounds on a marty zealot. Soften a boss, Q swap to a mk15 evisc and the boss is deleted

[potent echo]

Chastise brrt

[fading depot]

Ok this does sound kinda phat

I only use my incendiary shotgun to melt packs of bulwarks or shoot bons in the back

[potent echo]

Cavalcade shattering unload then swap as mentioned

[hearty oak]

deletes bosses and deletes ogryn spam

[potent echo]

"melt"

Kantrael shotty isn't that strong

Good though, I like it

[wind spruce]

Driptide

[hearty oak]

The top level zealot of the game Only uses bolter

[fading depot]

nah if you put like

3 - 4 incendiaries on a pack of bulwarks

you dont need to melee them

[wind spruce]

That means nothing, to be honest

[fading depot]

you do have to stack it though

[hearty oak]

which

[potent echo]

Top level zealot

[fading depot]

i dont mind the kantrael at all, takes out snipers from long range surprisingly well too

[potent echo]

What does that even mean

[fading depot]

but it sounds like i want to switch to the bolter

[hearty oak]

over 3400 in true level

[potent echo]

I'm also a top level zealot

[wind spruce]

If someone only uses one weapon and they are top level in the entire game they clearly have an autistic special interest. Doesn't mean it's good

[fading depot]

tbf top level zealot barely uses ranged weapons to begin with

[potent echo]

Ok maybe not as top

[fading depot]

my zealot is level 500 and i barely shoot my ranged weapon to begin with

[stiff falcon]

The top level zealot is Cyra

[fading depot]

granted thats probably a side effect of my build

[stiff falcon]

Not Eva

[fading depot]

who that

[stiff falcon]

Speed runner

[fading depot]

I've seen a level 2500 zealot named Trauma that is pretty fucking goated from time to time

Speedrunning isnt that impressive though, you can cancel out a lot of enemy spawns in auric and finish missions really fast

[stiff falcon]

Still rate Hamdolsun as the best zealot main

[fading depot]

It's harder to play through the auric

[potent echo]

Speedrunning is just what you end up doing once you played like 2000 levels lmao

[hearty oak]

Pubs

[fading depot]

If I add up all my levels from my characters I'm only at 1255

[stiff falcon]

1k total

Most on zealot

[fading depot]

zealot 500, psyker 350, ogryn 160, vet 160, other ogryn 40, other vet 30, other zealot 25, other psyker 15

give or take a couple

[hearty oak]

prob over 1400 i think in total for me

[fading depot]

which reminds me that i need to get around to maxing out my second zealot and psyker

[stiff falcon]

When you put in 2k hours, yeah, gotta get dockets somehow

[potent echo]

You dont get dockets from speedrunning though

[stiff falcon]

Yea you do

[potent echo]

If they are playing local server true solo

[stiff falcon]

Who does that?

[potent echo]

Which they probably are

Why Speedrun without true solo

[stiff falcon]

Mmt any mission more than 2 hours

Dockets

Why not speedrun

[potent echo]

Because there's pubs joining?

[fading depot]

he's right

MMT is awesome

Not maelstroms they're not

I got 1200 barrel kills in the last 3 hours because dorn told me about MMT

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/221510568584937482/1254966917635244062/image.png?ex=667b6a85&is=667a1905&hm=e257da1f85fd5f445f115f5c149a1cbb1a2091cd9e2831099a1f2bdf90e6788c&

no pesky ass randoms getting in my way

finished the penance in lightning speed

[wind spruce]

what is MMT

[potent echo]

Can players still quickplay into MMT?

[stiff falcon]

They can’t join

[fading depot]

Many More Try

[fading depot]

Yes

But not Maelstroms

You can't quickplay into Maelstroms

So you can solo them

[potent echo]

Huh that's weird

[fading depot]

Unfortunately they can quickplay into aurics you host

[potent echo]

Sure new true solo mod

[sacred crane]

what time will the new update drop?

[potent echo]

It is 4am in Sweden right now

So anytime during their office hours, maybe morning or afternoon

[ripe obsidian]

I enjoyed watching a scrier's gaze psyker poke a crusher patrol to death before anyone else could reach it

[wind spruce]

My favourite thing to do

[sacred crane]

OK ITS JUNE 25TH WHERE IS MY UPDATE

[lethal lagoon]

If it's old, no.

[sacred crane]

saw this at melk's

if only the damage was higher

[lethal lagoon]

@wind spruce

In my psyker store app

I'm about to check in game

Oh it was already confirmed psyker get's all the weapons too?

That's so fucking cool

[potent echo]

Yuh

[lethal lagoon]

Yuh

SG-SG about to go so hard

[potent echo]

We get 1h mace

[potent echo]

Psyker about to stop some man

[wind spruce]

Fatshark must've seen me about to overdose on copium

I'm taking full credit

[lethal lagoon]

SGx2
Scrier's Gun
Shotgun's Gaze

[wind spruce]

Sg^2

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

I'm excited as fuck for the shock maul

It looks fun and strong

Bolt pistol is hot garbage, unfortunately

[lethal lagoon]

It's already confirmed to be hot garbage?

[wind spruce]

Tele be ragging on it pretty hard

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

It has the same problem as the bolter in terms of stability

[lethal lagoon]

Why not tanner, then it'd be good.

[wind spruce]

And doesn't so enough damage

[lethal lagoon]

Maybe it has random hard scaling with SG

[wind spruce]

I have a clip to send you haha

One sec

[wind spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/live/Pjw0kZu3EVM?si=03AsD0j4WJfz2Ihs

Skip to 4:12.45

Streamerception

[lethal lagoon]

Also I'm still coping it'll be good with SG

[wind spruce]

Fingers crossed

[lethal lagoon]

SG can make staff LMB good, it can make anything good

[wind spruce]

Goddamn

I forgot how good toughness regen curios are

You start regening almost instantly

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

My new abominable gunker build (with 3 x 30% toughness regen curios)

Literally everything dedicated to toughness

[wind spruce]

Ooooh

[cosmic sigil]

i wonder if there's magdump or burst with the bolt pistol

[wind spruce]

No mag dump

Ok so bolt pistol is like worse across the board compared to revolver @lethal lagoon

It has worse finesse multipliers

So it's not going to scale as well

[lethal lagoon]

SG will fix everything

[cosmic sigil]

there's full auto mod too

[wind spruce]

It might fire faster I'm not sure

[cosmic sigil]

imagine agri rev being better than bolt pistol

[wind spruce]

Correct

It's not an activation like crusher, force swords etc

It's just a straight up attack that stunlucks anything below a monstrosity

[sacred crane]

i went down 4 times in a auric maelstorm, all 4 storms by me not watching my peril

i am truly...embarrased

[cosmic sigil]

i love stunlocking stuff i can 1 or 2 shot with knife

[upper sun]

bruh telo said they nerfed smelter complex end event

all of the demon zits apparently are gonna activate at the same time

[wind spruce]

Yeah and that enclavum baross got fucked on

[upper sun]

i hate baross so fucking much

what did they do?

[wind spruce]

I'm not sure

All the demon zits activating doesn't seem like a huge nerf

[upper sun]

baross is pretty much speed runner central

[wind spruce]

If anything it could encourage the team to split

[wind spruce]

It's probable that they added an airlock

[upper sun]

knife zealots are gonna solo it in seconds

[upper sun]

or maybe they did something to the TWO single spawns on the entire event

I LOVE HITTING DOORS

[wind spruce]

They really need to ramp up the difficulty during events

[upper sun]

they just need to fix spawns

[wind spruce]

It's not as though smelter complex end event is hard in any way...

[wind spruce]

And add ogryn spawns

[upper sun]

[sacred crane]

it is currently 8:15 Am in sweden...

the update should be releasing here soon...

FUCK

[wind spruce]

Around midday-early avo Swedish time

Is the usual release time

[spice veldt]

yeah maps certainly are something to work on

the solution is to just have events that require you to move around and to delete all holdout events

[upper sun]

are you saying delete the event or rework it?

[wind spruce]

Smelter complex is actually good in that regard

[spice veldt]

rework the events

yeah smelter is nice besides the final holdout which is a bit too long and boring for my tastes

[wind spruce]

Oh yeah that bit is stupid

[spice veldt]

holdouts are fine but they are the majority of events in this game and stay for way too long

[wind spruce]

It's fun when you're a beginner

[upper sun]

i cant actually think of any non hold out event maybe the carnival mission not mercantile the other one

[spice veldt]

yeah it's so lacking

[broken carbon]

the vents in archivum sycorax?

[upper sun]

eh i guess their logic was giving players an easier time after doing 90% of the mission

[spice veldt]

prob just easier to design a holdout

[upper sun]

yeah but i was thinking more of an end event

[broken carbon]

ah

[spice veldt]

the game did release unfinished after all and it's what we got

[upper sun]

idk if its easy i think it just happens based on level design

warren is all holdout while its sister mission isnt

[spice veldt]

there's some flexibility like changing the layout and whatnot to make it more "moving around" and less standing around

[sacred crane]

also can we celebrate that psyker is getting their first blunt melee weapon now since the shock maul is being added

[spice veldt]

e.g., the switches in relay stations finale could have a shorter interval between them and have players move more continuously instead of these waiting sections in between

just a lot of waiting around killing chaff that I'm not fond of

[wind spruce]

And shotgun

I am truly the seer psyker

I saw, I coped, I conquered

[spice veldt]

enclavum baross's midevent has some moving and then the other half is just camping ledges

only three directions from which enemies will arrive

[wind spruce]

The most fun you can have after you restore power is denying everyone else's fun with trauma

[upper sun]

most of the time its 2 directions and one bomber

[spice veldt]

augh

and the maps could have more side paths

cuz a lot of side areas just terminate and don't loop back into the main path, giving negative incentive to ever go down them because no one wants to trek back all the way

encouraging more team splits naturally esp when you have a system where players have to pick up materials in the map

instead of most maps being a linear corridor with the entire team of four strolling down it

[upper sun]

idk man this feels so schizo

you dont get toughness if you dont stay with the team

and you dont get mats if you stay

[wind spruce]

With two people you still get some

[spice veldt]

but we have a lot of self-regen options

[wind spruce]

And it's not as though you need it that much

[spice veldt]

coherency is barely a mechanic to worry about
the main reason to stick together isn't because of coherency but rather because teammates can help each other

[wind spruce]

Yeah, it's more about providing each other space by aggro-splitting and zoning

[upper sun]

ye sure disablers etc but i dunno im just getting sick of being ping spammed if i try to go to a plasteel spot or having my team die if i dare to pick something up

[spice veldt]

yeah my point is to have side paths where you can easily get back into the main path

and easily get back to your team

[upper sun]

yeah

[spice veldt]

instead of terminating side paths

[upper sun]

thats good

[wind spruce]

There's plenty of small examples where they did it well

But nowhere near enough

[spice veldt]

yeah and they tend to be the sections that I enjoy

[wind spruce]

Like that video where your mate is perilous combustioning down 15 maulers with duelling sword arco

[spice veldt]

cuz everybody gets to have some engagement with enemies instead of enemies being funneled through some area and the infinite cleave weapons eating good

[wind spruce]

That little side split is well made

[spice veldt]

yeah I like that section in vigil and the area afterwards that's shared by magistrati

[upper sun]

me bringing void to vigil station

[wind spruce]

Yeah that area is great

[upper sun]

man its the entire mission not just the bridge

[wind spruce]

And it can fuck on you haaard if you aren't careful

[spice veldt]

that be true, like the section preceding the scanner section, though enemies don't really spawn much there

[wind spruce]

Great mission

[wind spruce]

That area can be paaaacked but it's like one wave

[upper sun]

the events in the new mission look intresting at least

[sacred crane]

deez nuts look interesting at least

[upper sun]

i am mentally rotating ur nuts rn

[sacred crane]

"flipendo"

[cosmic sigil]

I don't see the PB with not osing a dog tbh. Even og bolter has a hard time with it

[wind spruce]

I think most people have an issue with the og bolter sucking so much ass against it too, tbh

But the issues with the bolt pistol go way beyond its infested ADM from what tele has said

[cosmic sigil]

I play tknives zealot bolter so yeah not concerned

Also I am sure it's just the beginning

There will be another patch not so long after

And people will find interesting synergies

Nobody was talking about dance of death and cavalcade before telopots made a video about it

And that was months after p13

[wind spruce]

What does dance of death do again?

[cosmic sigil]

Les recoil after a dodge

[wind spruce]

Ah yiiis

[sacred crane]

even if people say the boltpistol sucks, i will still buy it, level it and make a psyker build for it

[cosmic sigil]

SAME

[sacred crane]

and then do the same for the shock maul

[upper sun]

because not many people have the resources to get certain builds or the knowledge

[compact cargo]

Or the rng

[upper sun]

ye

no way the average DT player is willing to reroll a weapon 17 times

[wind spruce]

Ofc

I'm still hype

Sorry for being anti-hype

[upper sun]

we're the autistic minority

[wind spruce]

Bad orc

[upper sun]

ill prolly build one on zealot even if it sucks

[tacit cove]

what time does it release

[upper sun]

anywhere between 11 and 4 sweden time

[wind spruce]

I fully intend to deplete all my 13 million dockets by the end of today

[sacred crane]

Honestly I feel a boltpistol on psyker feels badass and fancy in a way

[wind spruce]

Hell yeah

I can finally enjoy a single shot weapon on psyker

Bc fuck revolvers

[hollow grove]

how bad would a bleed AOE boltpistol build for gunker be lmao

might suck but i still wanna try

[wind spruce]

How would you make it aoe

[hollow grove]

theres a blessing that makes close rnage shots all explode

[upper sun]

they usually release updates between 9:00-16:00

[spice veldt]

presumably it'll just be the direct damage that bleeds

[hollow grove]

the quesiton is whether the bleed blessing works ont he AOE or not....

[sacred crane]

There is like a blessings that increases the AOE of the explosions or something, i dunno all the blessings

[spice veldt]

cuz keep in mind that the bolter shots also explode at long range

it's just that the blessing makes that also happen at close range

[tacit cove]

any news on new penances?

[wind spruce]

There won't be any

[spice veldt]

another note is that the explosion damage only happens on kill iirc
there's still a non-kill explosion but it should just be stagger?

[wind spruce]

Or they would've teased it

[tacit cove]

i would assume there would be for the new map

[upper sun]

i asked a stream streamer of the "creator build" they refused to answer so prolly something

[wind spruce]

I think they mightve changed that

[wind spruce]

Ok, yeah. The basic stuff and a skull (if we're lucky)

[tacit cove]

it will drop while i'm at work fr

[hollow grove]

they're probbaly never gonna add psy guns but one can dream... :I

assail might as well be the psyker gun

[tacit cove]

add the wabbajack and watch the game become the funniest shit ever

[wind spruce]

Do they exist in lore?

[hollow grove]

im not qualified to dive into lore lol

[haughty star]

so if i'm reading the room correctly

[upper sun]

sounds like something tzeentch would have

[haughty star]

the BP isn't gonna be good?

for psyker

[hollow grove]

the closest psyker has to any psychic gun interaction in game rn is the laspistol force pushes lmao

[upper sun]

pretty much on anyone

[hollow grove]

inb4 they buff the bleed on hit to 6 stacks XD

one can dream

[wind spruce]

Not just on Psyker

But it'll be fun to use

Cos new stuff

[hollow grove]

for roleplaying as a commisar it will be fun, but FS might buff it in the future, who knows, they buffed the bolter mag size this patch so here's to hoping BP getting some love

[wind spruce]

It would be nice if they did bigger weapon balance passes more often

[sacred crane]

does anyone know all the blessings for the bp and shock maul

[wind spruce]

Just randomly increase and decrease the base damage of every weapon by -20 to +20%. It would add so much flavour

[wind spruce]

You can start to piece most of them together if you watch telopots' stream

This blessing is so exciting

(Entropic)

[hollow grove]

heard its bugged nr and has no cooldown lmao

rn*

nvm its the one that stuns on timed block

[haughty star]

will bb pop a gunner at AD?

[hollow grove]

that one is broken currently and can infinitely proc

[wind spruce]

It could be, but might not. The version theyre showcasing isn't the one that will go live

[wind spruce]

Wot

[hollow grove]

here's hoping that we get to play with the OP version for a day or two b4 they patch it

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/u-wot-m8-21st-century-gif-3545824

[wind spruce]

Bb as in brain burst? AD... I'm lost

[sacred crane]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-yo-tone-goanimate-vyond-caillou-gif-26890862

[bold flint]

pog

[upper sun]

zero infested damage ^

[sacred crane]

can i be honest and say that dogs are sorta meant to be meleed

like, dont mutants and dogs take way more melee damage than ranged damaged?

[wind spruce]

Mutants yes

[sacred crane]

I thought it was the same for dogs

[wind spruce]

Don't think so

[broken carbon]

it is

[spice veldt]

dogs also take bonus melee damage

[broken carbon]

dogs have 1.4k health

[sacred crane]

thats what i thought

[broken carbon]

but get one or two hit to the head by most melee weapons

[wind spruce]

My b

[idle plover]

Two tapping mutants with knife is silly

[broken carbon]

one shotting them with duelling sword is even more silly

[sacred crane]

like ik people like tanner are fucking screaming that the boltpistol cant one shot dogs but like

almost EVERY weapon cant one shot dogs

[spice veldt]

at least boltgun you can argue that the slow swap time is punishing

people really do like to harp about being unable to annihilate dogs with ranged weapons

these people have never touched melee weapons in their lives

[sacred crane]

Like, dogs are typically meant to be killed with melee, since can stop the leap by pushing them and them taking more damage from melee

[wind spruce]

Tanner is the most hinged

[sacred crane]

i honestly hate tanner, he is like if the word "ego" was a person

literally pulls the "what i say is right and everyone is wrong"

[hardy raft]

that was fun

[wind spruce]

Ehhh, he's a mentally ill, almost-child. I can't hate him.

[hardy raft]

props to idiots who said smite was bad so EP smite was megabuffed

[sacred crane]

he is a femboy, that says it all

[hardy raft]

hes dumb way of combatting reddit ego is by making his own ego and then saying his shit is better lol

[wind spruce]

That's just another reason not to hate him for his attitude. He's screaming at a world that hates him, that he suffers in.

[sacred crane]

He is also the same guy that said perilousis combustion, until death and venting shriek sucks

fucking venting shriek

[hardy raft]

i mean.

idk

it can suck if a zealot just rams in and farms kills

[wind spruce]

But yeah his opinions are whacky

[hardy raft]

but not like he can kill all enemy in the 30m radius lol

[sacred crane]

I honestly want to make my own psyker tree overview to fucking dunk on his video on it

[hardy raft]

just dunk his smite claim

[sacred crane]

he called every blitz on psyker dogshit

[hardy raft]

"it sucks" man who never used EP smite

i mean it can suck but like

its strong if you build it right

which is like, every weapon

psyker also gets to upgrade his blitzes which is unique to the character

...welll we exclude grenade tinkerer for this time

cause its not green

[sacred crane]

im going to solo maelstorm as psyker with boltpistol with dog modifier and send it to tanner saying the boltpistol is amazing against dogs

[hardy raft]

i liked the part where he showed that stacking damage on a damage 0 gun works to kill stuff

i mean i get it

yes first target is more important

but is mobility more important than damage

[sacred crane]

im still shocked he said perilous sucks

like 2 elite/specialist kills and every trash mob nearby just dies

[wind spruce]

And uncanny strike

[hardy raft]

i mean perilous can suck if your vet is a elite hungry bastard who kills every elite he sees

[sacred crane]

I FORGOT THAT LOL LIKE HOLY FUCK HE IS A DUMBASS

Uncanny literally just increases damage by a LOT

[hardy raft]

i mean some people here just dont use uncanny on their knives at times? still, idk why he disses his stuff other than to spite reddit "commoners"

[sacred crane]

If you can just focus elites with perilous, you dont need to worry about trash often

[hardy raft]

i know but doesnt help when getting killstealed

its sad at times

[idle plover]

I see one pixel of some elite and my plasma has overheated already

[wind spruce]

To be fair, he was talking about on gunker. Gunker has higher crit, and duelling sword has insane ADM on crit so it does less in that situation... but it's still BiS

[hardy raft]

"skill issue" tanner probably

[sacred crane]

he said uncanny sucks on veteran shovels as well

[idle plover]

I ignore tanner

He can schitzo in peace

[hardy raft]

tbh its also quite common here in korea
decimator/thrust for the folding shovels
idk why tho

[wind spruce]

I don't think he understands rending tbh

[sacred crane]

yeah im sorry but having over 300 damage than 9 damage is just better

[hardy raft]

deci doesnt have a good useplace now

[spice veldt]

duelling sword crits have unchanged adms

[wind spruce]

Are you sure? You get less of an increase out of the crits

[sacred crane]

Typically thrust/uncanny/decimator

[wind spruce]

Maybe I'm thinking of knoife

[spice veldt]

knife gets insane adms on crits

but not duelling sword last time i checked

[hardy raft]

standard issue always gets uncanny

people here seem to recommend uncanny on foldies also

[spice veldt]

since i do remember checking the duellling sword in case it had an adm benefit from crits

[sacred crane]

never gets old
#zealot-class message

[upper sun]

idk about decimator you lose stacks so quick

[hardy raft]

idk i like uncanny since its not ass like deci

[wind spruce]

Ok yeah that's what I did a big spreadsheet on now I remember, because I was trying tonjustify riposte flesh tearer lel

[hardy raft]

deci is ass rn

if it had like headtaker stack gain

[upper sun]

each stack of deci is like 9 damage

[hardy raft]

it'd be great

but

it doesnt

so you have to swing for like 30 seconds to get full benefit

its kinda sad

[sacred crane]

also is it just me or does tanner have some kind of...fetish for the columnus

[hardy raft]

man has a power fantasy

cant blame him i guess

also was quite fun seeing how people think about mk3 foldy shovi here

[sacred crane]

like with every gun or weapon he compares to the columnus and just always has to mention it

[hardy raft]

we kinda recommend it a lot since its special is quick

[lavish glade]

I mean columnus is kinda funky w it

[sacred crane]

ik but like he just always talks about it

[hardy raft]

i mean

[sacred crane]

like he even compares it to melee weapons at times

fucking

melee

[hardy raft]

wouldnt you talk about plasma everytime theres a vet gun review

[lavish glade]

I think he uses it as more a benchmark

[hardy raft]

ye

probably bad example anyway

cause colum is currently top dogs

[spice veldt]

though that'd still be weird since plasma is very obviously strong and simultaneously sits in a certain area to the point that it is weird to make comparisons

[hardy raft]

well

powerfantasy

[spice veldt]

weapons that are both strong and dominate a certain area are just weird to bring up in comparison when it's not the main topic

[hardy raft]

and dissing the gun

basically pulls out powersword and compares how rashad is worse than ps6

🤡

[lavish glade]

Only gun that i can confidentially say i dont fuck w is autopistol

[spice veldt]

even autopistol has the tight niche of having a quick swap time and stagger that you can make use of

[hardy raft]

it was decent to use it as a toughness potion tbh

[vestal fulcrum]

The comparison between these two wouldn't even be very clear-cut

[hardy raft]

but muh damage

[spice veldt]

yeah weapons are pretty similarly performing, perhaps having clear strengths/weaknesses in certain scenarios but still averaging out to be "pretty similar", so saying whether this or that is better without some specific context always feels so pointless to me and also likely to just derail into a very bad argument

[vestal fulcrum]

but there is a massive difference between a gun that has 50 cleave on non-suppressable high-damage shots and say, a revolver, which is also good, but actually has sensible drawbacks compared to plasma

[hardy raft]

if people knew about that then they wont make tierlists

[sacred crane]

siblings, i believe it is time we point and laugh at tanner and for his dogshit takes

[vestal fulcrum]

Tierlists are made because people tend to simplify complex concepts into something more approachable

[spice veldt]

i do think tierlists are fine

[hardy raft]

side by side comparisons usually fall in somewhere of a half-arsed tierlist

[vestal fulcrum]

I'm definitely not saying that they are not fine, but they do not convey the entire power curve of a weapon if it's merely put into a bracket, just their overall "power"

[idle plover]

Issue with tierlists is that people presume anything below s or a rank is shit

Which is ridiculous notion

[spice veldt]

it's just that there are a lot of weapons that are similarly performing and rashad/ps6 is one of those pairings that's like, just pick whatever suits your build and whatever you like

[hardy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-death-gif-22568614

[patent jacinth]

Lawb being weird and probably like B or C but kicking ass versus hordes of done right

[hardy raft]

id put lawb in d idk

kek

[patent jacinth]

I love it

[hardy raft]

its good

just

wierd

[patent jacinth]

Turns heads into past tense

But kind of actual shit for sniping of any kind

[hardy raft]

to not take flechette kantrael

i also dont use the special on it too much

[patent jacinth]

I need a mk6 for my vet so I can do crackhead zealot gun line rushing

[hardy raft]

but now ive learned that it has a great cleave

so might use it again

[spice veldt]

the cleave on kant's special got nerfed in case you're running on outdated info

still p good but just being careful since the nerf was relatively recent

[patent jacinth]

However

Manstopper still exists

[spice veldt]

that's true

it do be working with kant's special?

[patent jacinth]

No idea

[spice veldt]

at least if it does, it means you can take scattershot + manstopper

[hardy raft]

probably

[patent jacinth]

Answer: probably

[hardy raft]

seem to be same as lawb

[spice veldt]

instead of manstopper + flechette

[patent jacinth]

Manstopper took way to long to find

Longer than pc4 or anything else important like that

[radiant frigate]

manscatter

[hardy raft]

when was it nerfed

[spice veldt]

some nondescript time ago since i wasn't paying attention to the kant and only learned that it got nerfed after the fact

[patent jacinth]

I need an agripinna railgun

The theoretical 30 bajillion shotgunners with 1 slug

[upper sun]

i had like 3 copies of manstopper because i levelled vet and ignored it for months just kept buying anything over 370 i saw in case i ever decide to play vet

[patent jacinth]

Also you can apparently tap a bulwark by jumping with one

[upper sun]

(i still have not played vet)

[spice veldt]

also seems like they changed hitmarkers which seems neat

[patent jacinth]

Guh

[spice veldt]

here's the on-kill hitmarker

[upper sun]

wow darktide is saved

[spice veldt]

oh i think it shows double if it's a headshot

and just single if it's bodyshot

[patent jacinth]

Oh neat

Actually kind of useful

[lunar hollow]

dont forget the line effect on crits doesnt line up with the arc of a melee swing

[radiant frigate]

so no force greatsword?

[spice veldt]

guh

[patent jacinth]

Will finally let me know if I have my aim right on poxwalkers

[spice veldt]

i think there's an orange/yellow color for crits now as well

[radiant frigate]

i sleep

[upper sun]

we got mauls after 2 years of development

i think you're gonna have to wait at least 3 years

[radiant frigate]

zealot main it is then

[upper sun]

cant wait to get the new bolter so i can bitch about it

[patent jacinth]

I wonder if you can 1hko a crusher with fotf and double barrel

[upper sun]

nah

[patent jacinth]

We will see

[spice veldt]

DB has manstopper right

[patent jacinth]

No idea

[hardy raft]

from p[ath's docs it seems to have been nerfed to

lawb special which is 4.5

[spice veldt]

if it does then that's a crusher patrol annihilation with fotf potentially

[patent jacinth]

Amazing

[plucky flax]

Heretic

[spice veldt]

infinite cleave is one of my favorite genders out there

[patent jacinth]

This is my boomstick moments will ensue

[upper sun]

.t zealot main

[radiant frigate]

no big sword, why bother

[lunar hollow]

it looked like the unyielding alt fire damage values were ~3300-ish

so maybe

[hardy raft]

anyways

[plucky flax]

No need sword only staff

[spice veldt]

exhil eating good

[lunar hollow]

both barrels speedload

110% reload speed

[upper sun]

make staff specials activate melee mode

[wind spruce]

It only has two shots

[plucky flax]

I'd play dual staves. Blaze trauma and surge

[upper sun]

id pay to not have that in my game

[wind spruce]

Double void

[plucky flax]

[wind spruce]

[marble crater]

Double purgatus

[potent echo]

With the new DB zealots can finally run that one talent where you get melee damage(?) on emptying mag

[marble crater]

Some Spanish website has some news about crafting?

[upper sun]

maybe

but looking at it im glad it got delayed

it still had locks

my brother in the emperor i dont care if i could swap stats i have multiple 370+ copies of each weapon remove the locks

[marble crater]

Darktide players only want one thing

[upper sun]

its THAT easy

[marble crater]

The new system sounds a lot more interesting at least, instead of just buying and pressing the button to upgrade. Will depend on how grindy it is

Kind of like Destiny 1 upgrading

[potent echo]

It's them talking about a scrapped system afaik

[marble crater]

That would be bad and cause some confusion

[karmic finch]

Saw someone sum up the current situation

"Fatshark is a really shitty company to like"

The gameplay is great

But the development schedule is frozen molasses

Helldivers is probably approaching more updates than darktide

[potent echo]

Helldivers also has like 10~100 times more players

[upper sun]

THEYRE REMOVING LOCKS

WE DID IT REDDIT 🫡

[potent echo]

But the chicken or the egg? We will never know

[potent echo]

Real or fake

[upper sun]

check news or general

[potent echo]

Oh

What does that even mean

[upper sun]

who knows but i love it

[potent echo]

My loins are loose and lubricant

I need answers

Now!!

[upper sun]

we did it

im so glad i delayed my suicide now it was all worth it

[marble crater]

Important clarification after the article

[upper sun]

special thanks to the writer for forcing their hand into dropping that bombshell

[marble crater]

[karmic finch]

Helldivers was a game that had little marketing compared to the tonne that darktide had (maybe that's because I was flagged as a vermintide owner?)

Both games are 4 player coop pve.

Both games came out from a studio that had a dedicated community from a previous game in the series.

Fatshark say they have 180 Devs (current number on their website).

Arrowhead have 100.

There is no comparison, fatshark can't develop at any kind of pace.

[upper sun]

darktide also had very little marketing

[karmic finch]

Helldivers has launched 4 warbonds with new weapons.

How many new weapons updates has darktide had in like 5x the time?

[upper sun]

wanna know how i found out about the game?

i noticed someone on my friends list playing a 40k game i never knew about before

[broken carbon]

helldivers is also bad though

[broken carbon]

someone did some digging and math, apparently only a quarter are still actually working on darktide

[karmic finch]

I saw a lot of adds, and still do, for darktide lol. They seem to advertise to people who are already interested in it...

[broken carbon]

another quarter is on vermintide

and the remaining half is on somehting else i cant remember

[potent echo]

Helldivers managed to penetrate popular media

[marble crater]

I found out when it was suddenly on gamepass

[potent echo]

With like starship troopers references and stuff

Who wants to play nerdy Warhammer games

[potent echo]

🤓

[broken carbon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1dmxvhs/comment/l9zkw6h/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

the thread

[potent echo]

Guess we'll see how SM2 sells later this year

[karmic finch]

Even a quarter of 180 Devs isn't an excuse to push new contentent out this slow.

It's not like they worry about properly balancing or testing the new stuff. The class update surge staff shenanigans prove that. And assail on launch.

The class update was a big thing, and fair enough that took a while, basically tripling the options for each class.

But since then?

[broken carbon]

theyre still recovering from vacation

[karmic finch]

A cool boss fight, 2 levels, some shovels, a balance patch that didn't really address a lot of (most of) the balance issues.

And most of what they are adding is backfill from when the developed it

The models for a tonne of weapons are in the game and just don't have numbers/attack patterns

[balmy flax]

I noticed alot of the gamer hivemind focus on darktide. Also noticed alot of streamers playing it, no idea if they where sponsored or not.

[karmic finch]

Pre launch they had a lot of hype built up, I distinctly remember that

Then the prepurchase month was there and people ran into performance issues

[spice veldt]

the balance patch if you're talking about the patch#13 one and the ones following it did solve the issue of the majority of weapons being dogshit (both in performance and feel), just that it brought about a new balance problem of a lot of weapons being strong

[karmic finch]

Then actual launch came and none of the issues were fixed, still no crafting, still poor performance

So all the hype that was built was just immediately quashed

[balmy flax]

More this. If darktide hadn't been in such a miserable state on both release and pre release I imagine player count / retention would be alot higher.

[karmic finch]

Meanwhile Helldivers had a rocky launch and just owned it, they were massively clear that the launch was more than they were expecting and they couldn't keep up, and wouldn't be able to for a while

Fatshark put their head in the sand

[balmy flax]

I really liked buff patch. Think it was the right move.

[hearty dagger]

From what i know it's because Fatshark's dev pipeline is absolutely fucked while Arrowhead have one that actually works

(In terms of dev speed)

[karmic finch]

fatshark both have slow dev speed, and the worst possible communication layered on top

The radium weapons transmission that just happened was such an own goal, and that came pretty much alongside announcing that crafting was being delayed

[radiant frigate]

they are?

[upper sun]

check news

[radiant frigate]

that's mad

insane for a feature that should have been there on launch

[cunning yew]

Wait you mean like the locks that lock you out of modifying more then 2 perks/blessings?

[marble crater]

Yes

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[cunning yew]

Huge

[radiant frigate]

yuge

[cunning yew]

Gehu

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/absolutely-massive-hunter-engel-agufish-thats-humungous-thats-big-gif-25952143

[cunning yew]

https://tenor.com/view/yuge-huge-donald-trump-gif-7357158

[plucky flax]

They cba with actually making a crafting rework so they'll like 'let's remove locks'.

I'll take it though. No more pain with making curious.

curioses*

curiosi

[marble crater]

From what the Spanish website said it looks like a big new system

[plucky flax]

I can now delete a bunch of stuff.

To make my inventory load and not crash everytime.

[marble crater]

Well not now

[plucky flax]

In term of weapons I can only make minor improvements. Like 20->25%.

My stuff are already top tier since I am actually good at crafting.

[upper sun]

yeah not much change

[marble crater]

Being good at crafting is a very pro skill to have

[upper sun]

my void will be unyielding>flak

purge groaners>crit and thats kinda it

[marble crater]

Groaners on purgatus?

[upper sun]

yeah 😦 its 3/4

[marble crater]

Sad, sell it

[upper sun]

nooooo :((((((

[plucky flax]

If my weapons aren't actually correct blessings and perks I can't use them.

Should go flak unyielding on burga though to cook monsters.

[upper sun]

crit helps with everything tho unyielding is just for bulwarks and bosses and i already have BB on purge

i just do 4-5 BBs with ep and KF and go do something else

[marble crater]

"Wait, immediate communication based on the worries of the community ? WHO ARE YOU"

[upper sun]

catfish is prolly in a 3 week armed stand off with some devs lmao

[radiant frigate]

no more brickus maximus the moment you hand hadron a promising base

exciting

[cosmic sigil]

Update out?

[upper sun]

SOON

most updates drop 12 utc now its 10 utc

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

My playstyle with burga crit is not needed at all for horde. I spam creeping flames a lot even at sub 84% peril when using burga.

To get the burn stacks going asap.

[marble crater]

That doesn't sound very pro

[plucky flax]

But against monster I do it after 84% for 21 stacks on them + unyielding perk it's good.

[upper sun]

🤔

[plucky flax]

It's not as efficient to hold onto your peril for 6 stacks creeping flames with burga.

[marble crater]

Roll one with low resistance

[radiant frigate]

🅱️urgatus

[upper sun]

yeah i can see that but with a few brain bursts rest of the team can finish the boss quick

[plucky flax]

Mine has like 59 or 63 warp resist.

[marble crater]

Why not 1%?

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

you can pretty much do a third of its health in seconds with EP so i kinda dont see the point in running more boss damage aside from BB

[plucky flax]

4 warp charges burga creeping flames spam build. 756k in 27 mins not bad
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1200915958181675069/image.png?ex=667bdfe4&is=667a8e64&hm=1104c3a1c3269b3debbf43b3f011b3b63135c29a9e0287688da2cfeabb3917b4&

I only play ep bb burga in monsters maelstrom.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-sign-cant-stop-me-no-one-can-stop-me-gif-13921932

[signal sluice]

Someone said low warp resistance and crit purg? 👀 I highly recommend it.

[plucky flax]

Warp nexus 3 is unplayable.
Luckily for you, you can upgrade it soon.

[signal sluice]

Indeed.

[marble crater]

Told you the update will fix it

[plucky flax]

I also did 3.5k crit attacks without + crit chance perk.

Keep in mind burga has hidden 15% crit chance bonus similar to knife.

[upper sun]

ye

[sly pumice]

how do you get the stats so high

damn

[plucky flax]

It's mr. unsanctioned.

[upper sun]

tbh might even go elites as a second perk

[sly pumice]

all my staffs are like 40-60% damage

[signal sluice]

A lot of Ordo Docket rolling

[sly pumice]

ah

[marble crater]

Be lvl 30

[sly pumice]

ahhhh

im 25 rn

[upper sun]

you get better ratings the higher your level

building staves before 30 is kind of a waste of resources

[plucky flax]

Elites could be okay too if you really won't use burga for monster at all.

[upper sun]

ye i dont

[signal sluice]

Trying to get the lowest possible warp resist, and highest possible other stats, becomes a reall niche gap to fill. Ended being as grindy as 380 farming in the end.

[plucky flax]

Odd choice but fair.

[upper sun]

unlike u i have a team

that does damage to bosses

[sly pumice]

is the chain lightning build good?

[plucky flax]

Must be nice to play with good people.

[rigid sky]

More peril flux = more toughness gain

[upper sun]

things have been bad the last couple of days

[plucky flax]

I haven't played since may.

Can't wait to see how shit I am.

[marble crater]

Maybe you can play with Agent Chaos when you are back, I hear he is kinda good

[upper sun]

legit had my team wipe before the first event since yesterday

[signal sluice]

In my case the is no toughness gain on peril flux, toughness gain on warp kills to save points and get further down the tree

[plucky flax]

I don't play with unsanctioned people. D:

[marble crater]

It can be, if used the right way

[plucky flax]

What if mr. grendyl execute me.

[marble crater]

Brain burst him

[plucky flax]

I think grendyl might be a psyker.

[marble crater]

That would be bad

[quartz barn]

Brain burst duel

[sly pumice]

is this better?

ah i cant post screenshots

[plucky flax]

You are grey.

Not sanctioned.

[potent echo]

Where patch

[lunar hollow]

in sweden

[potent echo]

Fatshark AB

[marble crater]

You need to talk more before you can

[cunning yew]

Only yappers can post images

[hearty dagger]

Wait, just had a big thought

[cunning yew]

[hearty dagger]

(rare happening i know)

What if the radium weapons transmission and fatshark denial is on purpose?

I.E, either we use some sort of radium weaponry but it's only during a specific thing or the enemies get rad weapons first

[potent echo]

There's fatshark denial?

[upper sun]

fatshark isnt real

the game is in fact made in a programming farm in siberia

[hearty dagger]

Apparently a dev said that there are no rad weapons and "It's just the regular old plasma gun"

[cunning yew]

I have never seen a fat shark in the woods, therefore sharks aren't real

[hearty dagger]

Could also be a "sike we had them all along but never confirmed it so it would be a surprise"

[potent echo]

I mean there's no rad weapons now

As crab said if you buy enough skins anything is possible

[upper sun]

@plucky flax do your thing

by us enough skins for a blaze dagger

[potent echo]

Trauma bad...?

[cunning yew]

Of to take out a loan then

[potent echo]

You want admech, eldar, Tau battlesuits

[hearty dagger]

Also, they did say that there might be more stuff in the weapons announcement

Ergo, This might be an elaborate fakeout

Fatshark isn't very reliable on delivering more than advertised though

[potent echo]

What weapons announcement

[hearty dagger]

Which is exactly why this would be a high tier fakeout

[hearty dagger]

A while back, when they announced SotMG, they announced what weapons we'd be getting.

[potent echo]

Nah there's no "and others"

[hearty dagger]

Yeah but there was a "not limited to"

iirc

[potent echo]

New curio model

[hearty dagger]

lmao

[spice veldt]

the "not limited to" was speaking in general

[potent echo]

Maybe some new trinkets

[spice veldt]

prob just stuff like balance tweaks, some map tweaks, and whatnot

[potent echo]

Weapon changes balances and bugfixes probably

[wind spruce]

Exactly this

[hearty dagger]

Yeah, though like i said, it could be a good fakeout

[potent echo]

No way

[wind spruce]

It just meant normal patch stuff

[hearty dagger]

Could be, could not be

[upper sun]

EVI15 H2 DRAW TIME FIX

[hearty dagger]

It's fatshark

[upper sun]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

[potent echo]

Remember HD2 copium over illuminates lol

[hearty dagger]

I want them to come back already.

I missed trolling the squid bastards.

[wind spruce]

Goddamn it

[hearty dagger]

Plus there was an entire leak that more or less confirmed they'd show up after meridia went kablooie

[wind spruce]

I'm getting real antsy for this update now

[hearty dagger]

We just don't know when

[wind spruce]

I wanna shock maul thangs

[upper sun]

25 days but the last 3 hours are the hardest

[hearty dagger]

If Psyker doesn't get the shock maul

[wind spruce]

We do

[hearty dagger]

I am unironically just uninstalling

[wind spruce]

All human characters get all three weps

[upper sun]

all humans are getting shock mauls shottie and bolt pistol

[hearty dagger]

Wait

Psyker is getting shotgun as well?

[spice veldt]

can't wait for my UI mods to be broken and then i become sad

[potent echo]

Don't forget you gotta wait for the store to update

[potent echo]

Yes

[wind spruce]

Yes

[hearty dagger]

HALLEFUCKINGLUJAH

[cosmic sigil]

Psyker shotgun enforcer scattershot scryer fuck yeah

[wind spruce]

My copium was justified

[hearty dagger]

SHOTGUN PSYKER IS BACK BABY

[potent echo]

Gaming

[hearty dagger]

AFTER SO GODDAMN LONG

I GET A SHOTGUN AGAIN

[wind spruce]

SG^2 PSYKER

[upper sun]

i will only build the weapons on zealot

[plucky flax]

Im broke

[upper sun]

no fucking way im reolling that shit 3 times

[upper sun]

just buy 3 million pounds in skins pls

[cosmic sigil]

I will prioritize

[hearty dagger]

Does anyone here remember back when we had shotguns?

[potent echo]

Don't even buy skins

Just buy Aquilas

[hearty dagger]

It's been so goddamn long

[upper sun]

I have made an oath to only buy stuff based on what good shit hadron gives me

[hearty dagger]

Though where did they say all 3 human boys get the new weps?

[upper sun]

so far i have 5 bits of cosmetics

[potent echo]

Livestreamers preview

[hearty dagger]

I have unironically spent a comedic amount of cash exclusively on psyker cosmetics.

[cunning yew]

Psyker had shotgun before?

[potent echo]

Wev browser armory plugin

[hearty dagger]

Way back when

[upper sun]

artesian set is all i need

[hearty dagger]

All the way back when we were in the tech test

Someone ran the numbers

[cunning yew]

That makes sense

[hearty dagger]

And if we still had shotguns

[potent echo]

#general-chat message

Late afternoon CEST

[hearty dagger]

With a Disrupt Destiny build, we'd be able to one tap crushers with slug shotgun

[potent echo]

I slep

3-4 hours

[wind spruce]

LAME

I want it nowwwwwwwwwww

[upper sun]

🤔 discord nap time?

[hearty dagger]

Imma go

And get some mats for the new weapons

[upper sun]

personally

i think its gonna drop in 1 hour

[potent echo]

We need swedish language and culture experts to tell us what late afternoon means

[wind spruce]

YES COPIUM FOR MY PIPE

I SHOULDNT PLAN TO GO TO BED

[cosmic sigil]

Stay strong irosk

We shall play late tonight

Oceania strong together

[wind spruce]

I'm already so tired 😭

@cosmic sigil I swear to God all of apac south just logged off

[warped perch]

Keet

[lunar hollow]

go back to ur containment zone stan

[warped perch]

Josho I have no containment zone

[lunar hollow]

[warped perch]

You on the other hand

[lunar hollow]

he has breached

wtf

[warped perch]

[lunar hollow]

[warped perch]

You need to be contained in a gelatinous cube at all times

[cunning yew]

Jerma has breached the containment zone

[warped perch]

No

[lunar hollow]

ive been sittin here for like 2 hours thinking "any minute now"

i am literally going to evaporate

[warped perch]

Are you earthquaking

Sometimes it helps

[lunar hollow]

i am not

[warped perch]

Try it

[lunar hollow]

i will pass this time

[warped perch]

This time?

[lunar hollow]

indeed

[warped perch]

What about next time

[lunar hollow]

who knows

[marble crater]

I will wait for people to spam this sticker to know when the update is

[potent echo]

#psyker-class message

[marble crater]

#📢news-bulletin message buffs and nerfs

[potent echo]

buffs like

hammerblow

limbsplitter

trauma

[marble crater]

Is it happening? Is Blazing Spirit getting a buff?

[potent echo]

buffed to not trigger on trauma explosions

[marble crater]

Maybe Dumdum gets nerfed

[potent echo]

3 nerfs

imagine if its power cycler

its over for darktide

[untold niche]

I would be happy

[spice veldt]

the 2nd great review bombing

[cunning yew]

Nerfing combat blade would be over for us zoomies-bros

[untold niche]

inb4 dd nerf like i predicted

[potent echo]

dd isnt a blessing

i mean it is but not a weapon blessing

[untold niche]

oh its only weapon blesing?

brutal mommentum?

[untold niche]

that is getting nerfed*

[thorn cedar]

aren't we on our like fifth

[spice veldt]

maybe
but i declare that only review bombs following psword nerfs count

[thorn cedar]

I DO DECLARE

[thorn cedar]

never happened

this is libel

i would never make such a stan-like error

[lunar hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[wind spruce]

Imagine if short range wasn't a measly 8m

[marble crater]

I read it was 15m in the past?

8m is half of purge range, which is already short

[wind spruce]

I heard it was supposed to be 15m but someone made a typo in the code

Like legit

[marble crater]

Can't have shit on Atoma

[warped perch]

How dare you

[thorn cedar]

what's my name stan

WHAT'S MY NAME

[marble crater]

Slim Shady?

[thorn cedar]

that's classified

[potent echo]

you can't remove the close range guy's purpose in life

[marble crater]

Let's see if xbox has the update already as well

https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-gif-23353691

[potent echo]

holy shit

crosshair mod is base game now

magical

[marble crater]

Explain for xbox people

[wind spruce]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/1wphjPo3HV

This is incredible

Omg the update is here

Why is there no spam happening

@hearty oak

[hearty oak]

https://tenor.com/view/death-stranding-2-eyes-open-eyes-surprised-hideo-kojima-gif-10777721923873958767

Reading then notes now while waiting for the update

[potent echo]

Duelling Sword Mk II
Aligned chain timing for the Heavy 2 attack to be equal when chained from every attack.

[marble crater]

#psyker-class message

[potent echo]

uh so DS4 is still busted?

Deimos Mk IV Blaze Force Sword
Fixed an issue where an incorrect push direction was used if an enemy survived the Heavy 2 attack. It will now correctly push enemies away from you, instead of sending them to the right.

lmao no more push to the right

[wind spruce]

Can someone link patch notes

[potent echo]

Lowered the amount of hits that do increased damage on a critical hit string:
Columbus Mk V Autoguns from 4 to 3
Braced Autoguns from 3 to 2.

L

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/secrets-of-the-machine-god-out-now-pt-1/96131
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/secrets-of-the-machine-god-out-now-pt-2/96132

[hearty oak]

Recon lasguns getting a W finally

[wind spruce]

Changed ‘Perfect Timing’ to trigger once per hit, instead of once per attack.

Lame

No more air attacks proccing it

[potent echo]

Maccabian Mk II Duelling Sword
Fixed a bug where the Heavy 1 attack dealt less damage than it was supposed to do.

oh DS2 buffed too

[spice veldt]

mf are they saying that's the intended value

god fucking damnit

[wind spruce]

Surge’

Now also grants 5% Crit Chance.

[potent echo]

Obscurus Mk II Blaze Force Sword
Added a new Heavy Strikedown damage profile for the Heavy 1 attack that suits the actual attack better, including slightly better Weakspot / Critical Hit values.
First Target:
Damage increased from 100-200 to 150-350
Stagger increased from 4-8 to 7-15.
Second Target:
Damage reduced from 80-160 to 60-130.

this is crazy obscurus buffed

[spice veldt]

@near bluff BEST MOD EVER

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OSADOANSDONOASDIOANOSIDNIOAODNAOONSOANODANSODNASD

[potent echo]

we gaming

[potent echo]

which surge is this

dont tell me its the voidstrike one

[near bluff]

its not all the changes i wanted but i wanted to atleast fix H1 being bad

[potent echo]

thats crazy

[wind spruce]

There is no other one

[potent echo]

‘Sunder’

Now also grants 20% Heavy Melee Damage.

Sunder is META lmao

[wind spruce]

Well it will work for trauma too

[patent steeple]

what other blessing would it even be?

[potent echo]

why surge is alr so stupid OP

[patent steeple]

ok, now I am worried that all my installed QoL mods will make the game crash because of the new update...

[potent echo]

‘Chastise the Wicked’ and ‘Fury of the Faithful’
100% Rending → 100% Melee Rending

its so fcking over

flamer? in the trash

zealots stay L

[hearty oak]

ctrl+F
Nothing for specialists audio being fixed

[wind spruce]

Talent and Blessing Tweaks
‘Brutal Momentum’ weapon blessing: Removed Ogryns as possible enemies whose Hit Mass can be ignored.

No more one shotting four crushers

[marble crater]

Oh, they actually did buff blazing spirit

[wind spruce]

LOLOLOL

FUCKING RIP

[potent echo]

Smelter Complex HL17-36:

In the mid event enemies can now path to the platform above the elevator and can shoot from there.
The end event now has a new stage where players turn valves to restart the smelter.
Minor tweaks and adjustments to the end event area, added guardrails and covers for enemies.
Tweaked the difficulty of the event spawning to provide a better challenge.
Reduced camping scenarios by the extract door at the end event.
Fixed enemies that could spawn inside the Martyr’s skull room.
Re-worked the area after the airlock in The 'Fab to have a more organic game flow and in-world purpose.

lmao its not a free event anymore

[hearty oak]

In the meantime, DSs two shot them

[wind spruce]

We remain superior

[patent steeple]

also nerfed it, by reducing max stacks... by 1!!!

[digital narwhal]

It was entirely unhealthy.
It had to go.

[marble crater]

I take it

[stiff falcon]

Blindingly op with laspistols

[hearty oak]

No more ranged rending?

[stiff falcon]

I was killing 8 crushers before it ended with it

[potent echo]

yeeeeeeeeeap

[digital narwhal]

"Oh no, we can longer cook Crushers to death with the Flamer while also annihilating every human sized enemy :("

[potent echo]

my bolter is just sad

[wind spruce]

Yeah, it's justified

And very funny