psyker-class

[lethal lagoon]

Adults take it all.

[upper sun]

you cant have it all

[lethal lagoon]

I already do

[upper sun]

hadron will punch you

[lethal lagoon]

Hadron has limp wrists

Average gamer body

[upper sun]

he has a robot arm attached designed for cranking lugnuts

im sure shell be fine

[narrow herald]

https://youtu.be/OS_8xDQkdRY?si=pvysZrFf4F_VKPvn

[lethal lagoon]

Cranking is a shoulder exercise you luddite

Classic gamer, doesn't understand biomechanics.

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/want-it-all-now-queen-i-want-it-all-gif-14505263

[upper sun]

🙄 wouldnt you crank up the radio?

[tiny oracle]

hadron bricked my surge staff with 60resist, 72quell and rest 80

that made me sad

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

do you need shoulder motion for a radio knob u KNOB

[lethal lagoon]

Save it for the update

[lethal lagoon]

You don't need strong wrists either.

[marble crater]

Used DS4 on gunker for the first time now, should have switched from illisi a lot sooner

[tiny oracle]

does demonhost not count as a monstrosity?

[marble crater]

It should

[tiny oracle]

someone shot at a demonhost as i was walking past it

suddenly a plogryn charges at me

[marble crater]

Yeah, they can happen at the same time

Rip

[tiny oracle]

you can probably guess what happened

considering im here talking about it in discord and not playing the game

[marble crater]

You speed ran the mission and won

[tiny oracle]

i like your explanation better, so im gonna run with that

[stone totem]

The other day my friend who's newer to the game aggro'd the daemonhost and immediately jumped off of the death ledge next to him

For some inexplicable reason it attacks me on the other side of the room

[rigid sky]

It's fucking wild right

Like Illisi SEEMS right when you build the spec in your head

But when you try the DS4 with it, it is perfection

[marble crater]

Yeah, you can just use gaze, run up to the crusher and it's gone

And a lot better at hordes than I thought, especially if you throw some assail every now and then

[lyric burrow]

Yeah ive always preferred single target melee with gunker

Im taking assail anyway

[marble crater]

But now there is power supply interruption on smelter, I hope we make it to the end, I want to see it. Heard it looks awesome

[rigid sky]

With all the boosts your lights actually murder trash

While your heavies kill fucking everything

[edgy heart]

so whats the general opinion on the dome shield

[stone totem]

Very good, more consistent value than the walls

Walls still great used right though

[rigid sky]

Good if you can't auto-clear shooters imo

I take it on EP BR Blaze trauma

Does everything I need it to do

[stone totem]

It also nerfs how aids BoN gets to be

Specials as well

[edgy heart]

BoN?

[stone totem]

Beast of Nurgle

[edgy heart]

how so

[stone totem]

The bastard that loves making the floor into pus lava

[stone totem]

His puke can't enter or exit the dome

So if you place it a lil in front of him or in a good place for yourself it denies the puke

[edgy heart]

ah

[stone totem]

I don't know if that applies to his floor trail too but I don't think it does

[edgy heart]

the floor trail doesnt seem to be a projectile so i wouldnt expect it to

nice pfp lmao

[rigid sky]

Oh shit son

Brittleness trauma get

[stone totem]

I find myself wanting to roll a low warp resistance purg staff because then I can generate and quell more peril which means more toughness

[rigid sky]

And easier shrieks

[plucky flax]

f

Just be me and have a good blaze trauma already.

[marble crater]

Smelter is so beautiful on lights out

[rigid sky]

Some rooms make the modifier worth it

Also wormy bois' eyes in the dark

Are pretty fucking cool

[marble crater]

It's all cool, as long as you know the map and don't get lost, which I definitely do on some maps

[rigid sky]

MMYUP

My directionally challenged arse

[marble crater]

Very first vent purge our entire team got lost and walked backwards, until we noticed there were no enemies anymore. Good times

[quartz barn]

i love it when pubs die on vent purge / lights out and blame it on not being able to see

meanwhile everyone else doing fine xd

[stiff falcon]

finally

[rigid sky]

That's me tbf

My eyes are fucked

[plucky flax]

Same. My eyes are already bad as is

[rigid sky]

Or maybe my brain's visual processing

[plucky flax]

I don't want them to get worse playing shitty conditions.

I need to get laser eyes surgery.

[stone totem]

https://tenor.com/view/x-men-cyclops-marvel-comics-laser-gif-7486754

[marble crater]

I thought psykers don't really need their eyes to see?

What with half our head pieces literally blocking our vision

[stone totem]

I think it depends on the training or something

Scrier's Gaze highlighting different enemies like exe stance would be kinda cool

[marble crater]

[scarlet timber]

guys is this a good one?

Should i do skryers gaze with this?

[sacred crane]

Better question, why using autopistol

[scarlet timber]

cuz i hate lights out

[sacred crane]

Fatshark massacred that weapon

[stone totem]

It would be pretty funny

[hearty oak]

Cause. It's mid on a veteran. Like very mid. Like almost too kind to call it mid cause I liked it once

[rigid sky]

Autopistol is especially shit on psyker due to bad finesse

If you want a flashlight stick, take CIAG

It's arguably our best weapon overall

Unambiguously Gunker's best

[hearty oak]

makes you wonder why have the weapon if it performs horribly

[upper sun]

im late did someone say the line already?

[rigid sky]

It was good when pinning fire was good

[hearty oak]

"Was"

[sacred crane]

I remember back when I played zealot in the summer of 2023 when the autopistol was actually good

[vernal temple]

First time buying a cosmetic piece and this shit is bugged...

[upper sun]

you're only using that set with deimos right?

[vernal temple]

Yeah, I was waiting for this specific headpiece because of how well it fits that chest piece

[upper sun]

nice

[vernal temple]

the gold on gold with red accents

[upper sun]

i never got why we only have 5 layouts

its an opportinity to have one set for each build

[vernal temple]

the "bugged" part is that, when on the Mourningstar and using gestures, the head movements do not correspond with the gesture

[upper sun]

ur gonna feel bad when they finall add more and you have to redo all ur builds

any day now

[quartz barn]

its also not that hard to make one, most skillnodes are pretty straightforward

after all its only 4 main nodes, the ones at the start and some must picks

everything else just comes from making the paths

[scarlet timber]

guys

can soemone help me with a build?

if possible

i dont know whats a good talent tree

for my build

i want to be using trauma/knife build

any suggestion?

like with trauma is assail better or bb?

[rigid sky]

I prefer BB

Pick Shriek or shield, and Siphon or EP

If you are blazing spirit trauma, take Mettle

Otherwise don't

[scarlet timber]

i got

this

trauma

it got rending shockwave

[rigid sky]

Skip mettle then

[hearty oak]

Its a good thing no one uses gestures on the mourningstar

[scarlet timber]

with

shriekd

do you awlayss go soulblaze?

[marble crater]

Yes

[rigid sky]

Yes

Shriek is dogshit without it

The only reason to take Shriek is for the creeping flames

[hardy raft]

we dont talk about the other one

[marble crater]

Yellow stim and go, I used shriek like 6 times in 10 seconds earlier

[hardy raft]

tbh if you're hungry for points and plan to never use shriek

might skip the entirity

[marble crater]

So either pick creeping shriek or don't pick it at all, pretty much

[vernal temple]

not true, I constantly see ogryns spam thumbs up at everyone

[rigid sky]

If you are hungry for points, you picked warp siphon

If you picked warp Siphon, you wanna Shriek constantly

[orchid shadow]

I've just been kicked from a game for the first time. The wound may never heal. 😦

[hardy raft]

i think for team support i think spamming rending trauma is a better choice imho

of course best support is killing and ye i can agree to that

[rigid sky]

You don't have to interrupt your cast to shriek

You can do it midstream

[hardy raft]

i know, but charge going up from like 11~14 to 22 is kinda

hard to make it spam more

[rigid sky]

I always take the other modifier node anyway

[lethal lagoon]

It was me, Barry. I voted to kick you and used super sonic speed to hit f10 on everyone's keyboards so that you'd feel slightly bad for a few minutes.

[rigid sky]

Flurry has a grace period so you can quell without losing it

[hardy raft]

i usually go for the peril reduction

flurry grace period is fine

but just less venting overall fits my bill

[crisp steppe]

might sound dumb but why pick mettle over soulblaze with soulblaze trauma?

[hardy raft]

least yknow no venting till 9 charges

[rigid sky]

You already have solidity

[rigid sky]

Not mutually exclusive

Take both

[orchid shadow]

Damnit, I'll have a banana peel ready for you to slip on next time. 😦

[hardy raft]

oh yeah tried blaze trauma again

i forgot how loud it is

[crisp steppe]

might give a try to wildfire in my build as well then

[rigid sky]

Try EP for it too

Much more versatile and frees up more points

Good excuse to take shield if you don't have a shield build

Frees up points for soulstealer and Kinetic resonance

Because using brain rupture without either of the boosters for it feels awful

[hardy raft]

broken

[marble crater]

Nice, now do it in a game

[sacred crane]

Personally, id drop wildfire for empathic evasion or soulstealer

[edgy heart]

is the crit aura bad?

[rigid sky]

It's good, CDR often better though

Elite aura is the marginal one

[spice veldt]

crit aura is fine if you want some marginal crit chance

and if you want to path through malefic momentum instead of being forced to take mind in motion

[edgy heart]

so how exactly does the cdr one work, does it reduce their dc the moment they activate their ability?, or like if you walk into somoenes range and their ability is on cd, it starts cooling down faster

[spice veldt]

reduces CDR the moment they activate their ability in range of you

[hardy raft]

good thing it was buffed lmfao

before it was worse fireteam

and fireteam was a shit pick due to survivalist

then again kinetic also wasnt picked in favor of 10% cdr

[bold cape]

i still wouldn’t take any other than cdr, and any other than survivalist

[lyric burrow]

Best node tho

I can move while quelling as opposed to the 45 other movement options id rather use while quelling anyway

[spice veldt]

so true you can position the back of your head to me as i pull out my autopistol and a trigger malfunction causes bullets to unpredictably fly at you

[lyric burrow]

You dont use autopistol

Idiot

Also unnecessarily hostile

[rigid sky]

Survivalist can be a bad travel point though

I will take it if I can afford it

But I don't force it

Crit aura is kinda legit though

It's better for gunker and trauma imo

Also good in a double psyker comp

Because the other psyker will have cdr aura probably

[bold cape]

i may use it for trauma? but gunker i already have plenty of crit

[lyric burrow]

I take it generally cause im running weapons that really benefit from crit + mind in motion can suck my nuts

[rigid sky]

Yes but have you considered more crit?

Your crits get so much extra damage

I consider normal hits to be basically whiffs

Also it's necessary to path to another nice but unnecessary gunker node iirc

[spice veldt]

i run it with trauma though i practically play assail + ds4 + some ranged weapon

[bold cape]

5% gets worse the more crit chance you have
10% cdr is just too good to pass up in my eyes

[lyric burrow]

Im also not scriersing enough to really need to path through it

Esp on not knife

[rigid sky]

I try to Scrier's on CD in a fight

[lyric burrow]

Until i started running knife i would just have like multiple hour sessions where i never used it lol

Its v good but i never felt like "man i need scriers to kill these guys rn"

[rigid sky]

Just hit it whenever you are fighting tbh

It's free damage and crit

[lyric burrow]

Stuff just kinda dies anyway and i have constant access to a quick swap assail shard or 2

Yeah i dont have a great reason for not using it

[rigid sky]

It would die faster if you were gazing more

[lyric burrow]

Just autopilot

[rigid sky]

Think of it like ex stance

[spice veldt]

yeah at least on trauma/assail, i'd rather spend my peril with trauma/assail than for scrier's

[rigid sky]

Except you can swap weapons

[rigid sky]

Psychos who use Scrier's with a staff are another thing entirely

[lyric burrow]

Esp when assail kills everything anyway

Sometimes id rather just spend the peril there and obliterate a elite group

[spice veldt]

i run it with staff for crusher annihilation or bossing with ds4

[rigid sky]

It can probably be done but fuck me I wouldn't be able to deal with that stress lmao

[spice veldt]

so i end up using scrier's like only 3-4 times a match

[lyric burrow]

I have a surge scriers build with dc7

But its mainly for dc7

[rigid sky]

I am gazing on cd

[spice veldt]

(i run shield nowadays with trauma/assail)

[rigid sky]

I still assail a bunch

[lyric burrow]

Ive been dipping back into trauma

Deranged weapon

[rigid sky]

I've gotten good at not blowing myself up with it too lol

[lyric burrow]

Im good about it but i always hover at 80-100 peril and sometimes i mis remember my ticks/mis read my peril and throw one too many shards

Cause i generally throw to 100%

[rigid sky]

Or lag eats your input

And you think you swapped to gun

[lyric burrow]

Yeah when my swap gets eaten i cry

[rigid sky]

But you didn't

[lyric burrow]

Thankfully i tend To push out of swap

So i just ads assail

In that case

[rigid sky]

It's when I go to gun

That fucks me up

[lyric burrow]

I p much only swap with Q or G

So its p deliberate when i get to gun from assail

[stiff falcon]

@verbal thistle

[verbal thistle]

hmmm

Never even thought to try that

[verbal thistle]

@wet quiver

[lethal lagoon]

This is a random video game discord.

That's a little too far.

[bold cape]

how about not far enough
atlas, will you marry me? think about all the little ep smitkers running around our house, doesn’t that sound amazing?

[lethal lagoon]

What if one of them is a smite bubbler

I don't know if I have the heart to do what needs to be done

[bold cape]

visions of murder..

[lethal lagoon]

not here

[ornate hamlet]

try attacking

[bold cape]

try finger…

[ornate hamlet]

no finger ahead in short try composure

[hardy raft]

is there a psyker paid uniform with a cape

[haughty star]

hadron boutta grief the fuck out of me

[dusk void]

I FREAKING LOVE IT WHEN MY TEAM DOES NOT DO THE OBJECTIVE AND KILLS ENEMIES WHILE I SCAN AND DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND MY TEAM GOES DOWN

Fuck these randos

[hearty oak]

Average hab drayko maelstrom

[dusk void]

😂

But I think the director needs to chill on these auric missions. It’s been a losing streak for me

[hearty oak]

Nah. That's the way auric missions play. Either get ran over or you run them over

[narrow herald]

😔

[spice veldt]

society saves the day

[scarlet timber]

Guys who is the author

Of psyker atherum ?

On steam ?

Basically right now I got build involving bb flame shout knife and trauma staff

Is that good ?

I got a rending Shockwave trauma

[hardy raft]

ask here about blazing sprit trauma

[quartz barn]

made by pygex

its literally under the title....

[brazen rampart]

Oh this game is taunting me now. Pulled a mk2 duelling sword with uncanny and precog 3, but the stats are awful.

[haughty star]

i thought it was pretty much mkiv or bust

[brazen rampart]

My point is, it's not worth using due to the stats, and it has both the blessings I want, so the game is forcing me to choose.

I'm going to hang onto it until I pull a mk4 with one or the other.

[dusk void]

Did you win or lose the mission?

[hardy raft]

mk2 stab just never deals enough damage so just extract lol

like i tried with the loadout mod

was astounded at how much damage decrease from the mk4 to mk2 even though its the same stab for the first one

[brazen rampart]

.

[hardy raft]

i'd extract uncanny but hope you get it soon

[narrow herald]

win

[dusk void]

I got this on a loss

[narrow herald]

big sadge

[dusk void]

Fuck crap randoms if I’m doing 1.4K kills on a mission. Might as well just play with crap bots

[hollow current]

how did she ruin it

[dusk void]

Two players quit

[grim inlet]

i again had people upstairs on hab dreyko that wouldn't do the scans. so i text in chat "scanners downstairs" and they say "we fightin up here" and i sent "theres enemies down here and the objective so help out" and they said "can't" (which if they are stopping to type it means they arent too crazy busy up there). a minute later they go down and leave lol

[haughty star]

rampage 3, block effeciency, and level 3 unyielding on purple lol

[hollow current]

[haughty star]

im gonna roll it again cuz if i get uncanny i can work with that

but yeah fuck hadron

[grim inlet]

there was a 380 something in sire melk with level 1 infested and level 2 stamina and level 2 and 3 blessings lol

[hollow current]

I'm saving my 3 x 80 mk4 for the update.

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[ornate hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GixnuW-fHQM duelling sword is somewhat bugged

[hollow current]

The dodges not degrading till around -5?

It's been like that forever.

[ornate hamlet]

worse with crit skills replenish time is bout half a second

[hollow current]

ooo I see. I thought it was 30sec vid for some reason. Yeah that is a funny inconsistency .

[ornate hamlet]

yea im not sure if its just me but it seems a little silly to be able to replenish dodges before most enemies have wound up a swing, i quiet literally poked a DH to death by just spamming block, obvs i have good move tech but I had no teammates hel. Also i wasnt swamped by elites they were keeping my arena free but still

Reminded me of old OP kinetic deflect

Mid her teleport I get another 9ish dodges

And they fooking long slides if u crouch slide for 2 dodge count u end up 4 crusher lengths away

[hollow current]

You can just stand in a corner and block. quick switch to a stave or blitz and quell enough before blocking the next flurry and be okay.

[spice veldt]

what's the bug?

[ornate hamlet]

idk for sure if it is but the replenish time on the mark 5 duelling sword when running the right side crit build seems to replenish silly fast im going off the word of a pretty high level psyker main mate

maybe someone can frame by frame it i dont play psyker enough to really care

[spice veldt]

i'd be extremely skeptical of that

[hollow current]

huh. i thought it was a dodge distance thing.

[hardy raft]

only for mk5?

[ornate hamlet]

mark 4 distance depletes substantially quicker

i do a comparison in the vid i think since i main 4 i can feel its different

[hardy raft]

so can we get mk5 DS on zealot

so i can run around

[spice veldt]

given that I do have the dodge timer exposed on my UI, i don't perceive any difference

[ornate hamlet]

like i said a frame by frame might be the only way to test but im too lazy to find linux software that can

[hollow current]

I don't think there's a difference in dodge timing or regen, but mk5 has better distances when depleted

[spice veldt]

i'll just chalk this up to "what no updates does to a mf" moment

[ornate hamlet]

what thousands of hours does to a desperate motherfucker * pls content

[hollow current]

live service game

a new class every quarter

[ornate hamlet]

pls no recycle vt2 anims for two handed weapons

[hollow current]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-pokemon-kaiaghost-gif-21256649

[spice veldt]

i don't see any difference in the dodge refresh time

unless they're counting from when you begin dodging

because the mk5 dodge happens over 0.36 seconds

[ornate hamlet]

next week

[spice veldt]

whereas the mk4/2 dodge happens over 0.39 seconds

i can only assume that they're beginning their count from when they first begin pressing the dodge key

which is erroneous because weapons can take variable amounts of time to go through the dodge

you should recommend them to install movementanalyzer

[haughty star]

TF

looks like i'm trying out trauma finally hopefully lol

just gotta get one good roll on this turd.

[grim inlet]

love trauma

[haughty star]

i roll surge but my build is literally built around it

i've been told traumas pretty forgiving to just throwing on

[hollow current]

I guess you have a good chance to come out with either a rending or a blaze trauma

but getting good stats on a trauma staff is the hard part.

[haughty star]

i don't hate this one lol

[hollow current]

https://tenor.com/view/duh-well-snl-what-now-gif-16197688

[ornate hamlet]

hahaha many blessing fatshark say eh fuck you enjoy gacha

pls vt2 weapon system where blessings are u know useful

[upper galleon]

you mean swift slaying

and nothing else mattering

i'd rather have fatshark work on balancing the interesting blessings of darktide then pussying out back into a stale swift slaying meta that was vt2

2 things are bad at once

[hollow current]

at least if you had the resources you could get exactly what you wanted

[brazen rampart]

I'd rather FS do alternating big updates on both games. V2 desperately needs some love in regards to the perk, hp, and movement systems.

[upper galleon]

yea eventually

after spamming perk rerolls a 200 times

on an orange item cause the game gave you 4 red longbows in a row (yes i'm still mad)

[hollow current]

usuallly it only took 50

[upper galleon]

just 50 with getting both the right pair, and high values?

lucky

[hollow current]

Well for an orange, yeah that would be really lucky. I meant reds lmao.

And I think it took me 50 reds on Bardin before I got dual axes.

[upper galleon]

maybe because i got in late and had not so great experience with vt2 i'm more biased, but i'd rather Fshark move beyond what they've done and improve

rather than go backwards for the sake of comfort for some people with no imaginations

first red longbow was cool

that's nice

it was not funny the next 3 times

[hollow current]

in VT1 they had a contract board they would give specific reds when completed.

[upper galleon]

never played vt1

[hollow current]

If only Melk had actual good weapons in a similar system.

instead he's a blessing farm at best.

[upper sun]

melk has never gotten me shit besides ~5 blessings

[upper galleon]

also, there is just, more interesting blessings imo. bloodletter, rending, surge blessed staves, blazing blessing, deflector

[hollow current]

In a year and half of playing. I think I've only bought weapons to use from him maybe 3 times, 5 max.

[upper galleon]

even if they are under/overtuned, they are still interesting

melk's issue is even after they buffed his odds, it just wasn't enough

[upper sun]

1.2k hours one staff to use

[upper galleon]

it's a softer issue of big E gift, where you are getting better Big E gifts from sedition because that is just a white base, it is limited with the 300-380 range. in damnation, each perk and blessing rolls t1-t4 as well

basically guaranteeing a brick

[upper sun]

ye

i got the sickest fucking flamer from a sedation game

[upper galleon]

don't sell items while tired btw

i was playing malice with friends

got a 380 heavy sword with flak perk and ht4, didn't even notice

i was reading it as I sold it

[upper sun]

[hollow current]

[upper galleon]

woke myself up in shock 3 seconds later and started crying

big E gave me the best base ever

and i lost it

there should be like, a mod that tracks your tiredness via webcam and locks off crafting and selling items

[upper sun]

i would post the flamer

[upper galleon]

[upper sun]

but the game is stuck in a loading screen

[upper galleon]

it be like that

[grim inlet]

i got a 376 from doing a sedition match one time lol

[upper galleon]

i did that with crafting too. had a perfect agri brauto, just had to swap blessing to FS, the carapace to flak. Instead i swapped the maniac to flak

[upper sun]

peak

i got this as a sedation grey

[upper galleon]

yea it's the full 300-380 range

[upper sun]

they need to add sedation twins so we can farm greys

[upper galleon]

which makes it more viable, since it has less things to brick

[haughty star]

raerely ever are the times i actually ahve the plassteel to consecrate

burn through that shit soon a s i get it

[hollow current]

Oh fair enough. I have more than I'll probably ever use for the rest of the game.

[upper sun]

i dont think the devs themseleves thought people would play the game for as long as we do

[hardy raft]

tbh the blessings in the chaos wastes are interesting

but

even mroe RNG

[upper galleon]

yea

[hardy raft]

much prefer DT crafting over VT

VT was fucking dull

[upper sun]

man why dont we have shit like that?

[hardy raft]

like

[upper galleon]

but we will get chaos wastes eventually (cope)

[stuck marsh]

i just started using the trauma staff but i keep blowing myself up could anyone tell me peril range its safe to fire the 2ndry fire? i pretty new to psyker and have been using venting shriek but i think its become a crutch for me after trying shield

[upper sun]

i want a twitch mode

[upper galleon]

chaos wastes was post game dlc

[hardy raft]

native twitch support was fuycking great tbh

[upper sun]

man we dont even have twitch drops 💀

[hardy raft]

enter like the wierdest twitch 24/7 name and then you get a semi-announcement high-shok

[upper sun]

watch a streamer doing darktide for 30 minutes
get 100 plasteel
ITS NOT THAT HARD FATSHARK

the game doesnt really show peril accurately

if you charge a purge staff till 100 then release you can pretty much cast the full charge without dying

[stuck marsh]

ok thank you! ill put more time in it and try to be more wary of peril

yeh surge and purge staff seem to have different self brain explode points than trauma or perhaps they are just more lenient?

[spice veldt]

if you see 100% and release, you will die

it's any number below 100% where you can cast and be fine, though i give myself some leeway to account for human error

(besidees brainburst, which has it at ~97% because of something to do with where it begins "counting")

[grim inlet]

yeah brainburst, as long as you are under 100 when you begin the burst, you will be fine

[spice veldt]

nah, it's different for brainburst

https://streamable.com/q0anhb

[grim inlet]

doesn't happen for me

[spice veldt]

mf as somebody who has used brainburst for 1k hours, i can confirm that it works like that

[grim inlet]

unless the changed it last couple days. when i bb i quell below 100 then i use it and don't die

[upper sun]

purge at least doesnt cancel your attack when youre in pow

[spice veldt]

BECAUSE YOU'RE QUELLING BELOW 97%

[grim inlet]

lol

[spice veldt]

i started my psyker in january of last year and that has always been how it worked and continues to work

(and the video that i just recorded demonstrating this)

(note the name of the streamable video, which indicates the day, month, and year on which this was recorded)

[hollow current]

never seen you before

are you sure you know what you're talking about

[spice veldt]

28 stab wounds

[upper sun]

ye brainburst is only single target at 97 and below

[grim inlet]

Yeah, nah lol

[lunar hollow]

how can u use brainburst when you do not have a brain

[spice veldt]

i genuinely do not know why that's happening or why your peril dips down after the cast and then back up

[upper sun]

post buff bar

[spice veldt]

as far as i'm concerned, what you're seeing is abnormal af

[spice veldt]

go away helldiver

[lunar hollow]

im going to crush ur goose ass

[spice veldt]

not even a goose

[grim inlet]

i honestly wasn't trying to be a jerk, after reading some of my comments it came off as kind of dickish so sorry, but thats always been like that for me so idk honestly

[spice veldt]

time to check if passive quelling has interpolation

[lethal lagoon]

Looks like the mods messing something up.

No need to think too much about it

We had lots of mini updates and it is a down period in terms of playerbase.

[grim inlet]

Here's with buff bar

[upper sun]

but atlas thats your solution to everything "just stop thinking"

[grim inlet]

this one got down to 98 for me

[upper sun]

why are you alive?

[grim inlet]

the emperor protects

[lyric burrow]

Spare yourself

[lethal lagoon]

To be fair, I'd never give you that advice.

You have to at least start thinking to stop

[upper sun]

so tru im always a step ahead

[lethal lagoon]

You sure are buddy

[spice veldt]

ah i know why

it's because of peril res

[upper sun]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/041/986/11meme.jpg
strong ahh vibes

[grim inlet]

im always a step ahead, like a carpenter, who builds stairs

[grim inlet]

oh the 10%

?

[spice veldt]

i genuinely did not think that peril res changed the threshold so sharply

ye

[grim inlet]

that could be it

let me go back in and see what happens without it

[spice veldt]

i died at 99.8% peril with it so it's not quite perfect

[brazen rampart]

Bro PLEASE tweak your spidey sense mod, I beg you.

[spice veldt]

but yeah peril res is the deciding factor so far

[grim inlet]

never

[spice veldt]

color go haha

[grim inlet]

i have all of them memorized lol

[brazen rampart]

Genuinely if you run that mod for more than dogs, trappers, and daemonhosts, you might have brain damage.

Respectfully.

[grim inlet]

to be clear, "battle medalion"?

[spice veldt]

i have it for bursters 😎

[brazen rampart]

Having that many colors pop up on screen in an already hectic game seems awful.

[spice veldt]

it's the -5% peril gen nodees that i took along the way to warp charges

[grim inlet]

i have really shit hearing, i'm almost legally deaf and i have tinnitus lol

[spice veldt]

these little ones

[brazen rampart]

Same!

I hear literally nothing in my right ear.

[lyric burrow]

Cheater L FS ban this guy

[brazen rampart]

And I wear hearing aids.

[grim inlet]

okay, ill just make a build real quick with nothing on it

[brazen rampart]

(I'm not even 21 and I'm almost completely deaf)

[grim inlet]

jeez man :/

[brazen rampart]

Anywho, if that's your cup of tea, keep it that way.

No reason I have to spoil it.

Was only joking around.

[grim inlet]

nah its fine i like the banter

[bold cape]

wow an actual productive internet conversation that didn’t end in screaming just because of differing opinions or preferences? amazing

[lethal lagoon]

There's still time

[brazen rampart]

It's almost like agreeing to disagree makes situations like this significantly less hostile or something.

We're talking, not arguing.

Anywho, I got caught by a mauler in the back earlier, could've used spidey sense for that lmao.

[grim inlet]

yep, that did it. i died on 99 and 98 perill

so, you were right, i apologize. i genuinely thought it could be just below 100

[upper sun]

smh i told people those nodes are legit

[brazen rampart]

So 97 means you don't die from BB?

Neat.

[spice veldt]

i was wrong as well since i didn't realize that peril res had such a stark effect

[upper sun]

97 is safe ye

[spice veldt]

to be absolutely safe if you're not pathing through the left side

[brazen rampart]

Now I know how close I can sit on the edge of my seat for peril edging.

[spice veldt]

i forget how peril rounds (i think it's rounding to the nearest?) so 99% might still be safe if you have 2 peril res nodes

[grim inlet]

i have the color formost the guys, but the only ones i actively pay attention to are trappers and dogs

[lyric burrow]

P sure its nearest

[brazen rampart]

I just keep my head on a swivel for just about everything.

[lyric burrow]

Cause 97 could be death or not

[brazen rampart]

Dogs like to hide and jump over crowds, though.

And the trapper noti lets me know if they're aiming at me or not based on distance.

[grim inlet]

i just did it with no talent tree points, 96 and 97 were safe for me

[spice veldt]

even 99.78% is safe with -10% peril gen

[brazen rampart]

It gets more intense the closer they are to me so I can dodge without looking at them.

[grim inlet]

but i don't know if it was like 97.1 or 97.9 or whatever

[grim inlet]

yes, its so nice

great discoveries tonight lads and lasses

[brazen rampart]

I still get caught by dogs a lot, I'm like a magnet even when I dodge them.

[spice veldt]

and 99.78% should pop up as 100% so you're safe if you see 99% w/ 2x -5% peril gen nodes

[bold cape]

i have to push dogs, dodging or dodge sliding away from them always gets me magnetized into them

[brazen rampart]

Yeah I think I need to start pushing them.

[grim inlet]

i swear im that way with trappers. i could clearly dodge, and the net will boomerang back and get me

[spice veldt]

doggies are pretty sus with dodges and it's only really recently (relatively speaking) that we could only "reliably" dodge them

[brazen rampart]

Speaking of pushing, and this is probably common knowledge, you can push bursters away with a force sword without having to back slide to dodge the blast.

[grim inlet]

if theres a dog in front of me, i will not dodge, i will wait to push and then kill it lol. if its behind me, ive gotten pretty good at dodging but it still gets me sometiems

[bold cape]

i rarely ever get netted but dogs always get me if i dont push

[upper sun]

ye but you gotta line it up more accurately than a normal push

since the push is technically an attack not a push

[grim inlet]

trappers are my biggest rival even more than my 3rd grade teacher

[brazen rampart]

Not really. The "push attack" is still a pretty large aoe.

[lyric burrow]

Dog dodging is sus ye

[upper sun]

i mean the attack(the push) not the push(the push)

[lyric burrow]

Push is just better esp with how generous it is

[brazen rampart]

I have literally 180'd to push a burster and been fine.

Yeah we're talking about the same thing.

[spice veldt]

you can also still push doggies that are coming from the back because the game still cheats in your favor for the push distance against dogs

[grim inlet]

mr young, sorry again i sounded like a jerk earlier

[upper sun]

the push push or the dot push?

[spice veldt]

no worries i also was standoffish

[lyric burrow]

380 degree push

As well

[brazen rampart]

I feel like their hitbox mid-flight is just larger.

[spice veldt]

i just spam pushes when dogs are in the play

[grim inlet]

[brazen rampart]

Push > Push Attack. I'm referring to the Push Attack.

Still a pretty large aoe.

[spice veldt]

the game cheats in your favor by adding a push beyond your typical push radius

[bold cape]

this is the most respectful ive ever seen chat

[spice veldt]

e.g., you'll notice that when you push dogs/bursters, you'll see no hitmarker sometimes

this is because you're not hitting with your normal push

[lyric burrow]

Yeah arco got abducted

[upper sun]

idk i've failed those unless the center dot is directly on the burster

[spice veldt]

so sad that yoshi has to die tomorrow

if only we can avoid this

[brazen rampart]

This one is praying on our downfall into all-out war (zealout chat).

[lyric burrow]

Try me buddy

[bold cape]

free at last

[lyric burrow]

TRUE

[spice veldt]

i'm the type of person that lowtiergod's speech describes
I am a roach that will survive a nuclear war

[haughty star]

is cleave kind of a dump stat for DS4?

[lyric burrow]

This is not a good thing

[haughty star]

it moves so well i almost don't wanna ruin that with like a 50 percent mobility roll lol

[bold cape]

“i am a roach”
checks out

[upper sun]

i just closed the game 😭 you can check the scalling on it

[lyric burrow]

Arco really just said "yeah im the guy that gets banned from LTGS chat after a 10 minute rant about them"

[spice veldt]

dumping cleave damage is fine
you'll prob lose out on dreg shotgunner oneshots if it's too low w/o some other damage buff but that can be mitigated by running DD/warp charge or whatevs prolly

though i'm not particularly concerned about BPs since i do run assail to help along with that

[haughty star]

isn't cleave just the damage you do after hitting something?

[spice veldt]

here's the hitmarker thing i was referring to https://streamable.com/aui76b

[lyric burrow]

Shotgunner bps are also like

Idc

[spice veldt]

so, the name "cleave damage" is a rather deceptive name for what that stat modifier actually does

[upper sun]

also effect some other things

[lyric burrow]

Its also bugged

Iirc

[spice veldt]

"cleave damage", as a stat modifier, is actually similar to the penetration stat except that it affects only the Unarmoured, Flak, and Infested armour types

[lyric burrow]

Ik pen is

[spice veldt]

it has nothing to do with "cleave" in the sense of hitting multiple targets

it's bugged if it's on a weapon that has both cleave dmg and pen yeah

cuz they both modify flak ADMs and that seems to cause some kerfuffle

[lyric burrow]

Yeah both get infested %

[upper sun]

🤔 if a dog hits you while blocking it skips the first tick of corruption right?

[lyric burrow]

Or something?

[spice veldt]

yeah

probably because their attacks are melee damage

[upper sun]

ye thought so

[haughty star]

between this game and borderlands unspoken stuff

[spice veldt]

simply intuit the game mechanics through the morphogenetic field

[upper sun]

simply dont play the game thats the only way to not miss out on forbidden knowledge

[spice veldt]

imagine playing the game instead of getting caught up in discord arguments

[upper sun]

lmao

the game is not made to be played but talked about

content/gear generally stop mattering at ~1k hours

[spice veldt]

legitimate 200iq consequence of games that don't have glossaries

real meta-gaming hours

[lyric burrow]

Fs is actually getting payed by discord to make a game that forces discussion to learn crucial mechanics

Via discord

[spice veldt]

the shadow government that is lurking behind society to make people bend to their ultimate goal: making people talking with each other online

[lyric burrow]

You and society

[grim inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-i-knew-it-chandler-gif-15801472

[haughty star]

Do i NEED grade 4 blazing spirit to try a blaze trauma?

[upper sun]

im gonna tell you before you get memed on

blazing spirit is only t3

[haughty star]

also what's the secondary upgrade for this turd to do the funni blaze trauma thing

oh shit perfect

[upper sun]

crit chance

[haughty star]

so this things basically gonna be a monster either way

[upper sun]

flak+crit

yeah

[haughty star]

and then nexus for the second blessing?

[upper sun]

ye

[haughty star]

i also have level 3 rending shockwave on a nother truama

is that only l3 as well?

[upper sun]

i dont remember i never rouched my rending trauma but im pretty sure it has a t4

[cosmic sigil]

it has

blazing is t3 on a staff and t4 on force swords... because.

[radiant frigate]

there is also a t3 blazing on swords

[upper sun]

no there isnt

[haughty star]

lol i like how i get shit i don't even want on this game

i have been meaning to try blaze tho. what do i build around it? just typical shouty boi?

[upper sun]

pretty much stagger everything give everything soulblaze shout then do it some more

[near wyvern]

Stop the lies, yes there is

[near wyvern]

You can go two ways, fire shout for DPS or bubble for a bit more all arounder

If you have 2 zealots in the party consider going the bubble way, helps dealing with ranged and you can bubble the slug so the zealots can have mugging on it

[haughty star]

you can trap the BON with a bubble??

[near wyvern]

No but the bubble deletes the vomit projectiles so it will try to vomit but nothing comes out. It can only swallow players that have vomit on them so basically free hit time.

If the player the slug is after is in the bubble it will never leave

[haughty star]

interesting

[wind spruce]

Just gotta watch out for that tail whip

[near wyvern]

And the slug takes extra melee damage

Yeah don't stick your head in it's arse

The tail hurts

[haughty star]

sounds like it should work okayish with my build for surge

[ornate hamlet]

Just today I learned there's some minimum pellet bullshit for shotguns

[upper sun]

I love slug melee
#darktide-pics-vids message

[near wyvern]

With stabbing weapons you can easily hit the weak spot through the mouth so in a bubble the safest way to melee the slug is to be as close to the teeth as you can

[ornate hamlet]

900 hours and I'm still learning random Fatshark bullshit

[upper sun]

kickback also has some bullshit with unyielding where it makes it take extra damage

[wind spruce]

I didn't realise it had a melee (or ranged) modifier. A lot of people don't realise the mouth is a secondary weakspot, by the by

[near wyvern]

Is it really a weakspot or does the weakspot hit box extend a bit to the back side of the mouth?

I know you will get aggro if you hit the mouth.

[spice veldt]

not a real weakspot
just higher body damage modifier compared to the other parts

[near wyvern]

There are so many untold things in the game and even more things that are straight up lies. 🤷

[wind spruce]

I'm not sure what you mean, but you do more damage shooting the mouth directly than slightly below it.

[upper sun]

mouth is more damage than body yeah but the zit is more damage than either

[haughty star]

poking the zit with ds4 is so gratifying

nice being psyker AND being able to be the frag

on this guy would ya'll take rampage off and put on uncanny 4?

it's just bosses and mutants that are unyielding rihgt?

[upper sun]

maniacs for muties it kinda shreds everything else

[spice veldt]

bosses, reapers, and bulwarks are unyielding

[upper sun]

either blessing is is fine depends on what you like

[haughty star]

actually low key might not be a bad perk than

normally i'm all flakiak but this could be fine

[dusk void]

DId all this for a loss smh. Am I doing something wrong here?

[upper sun]

yes do more

[ornate hamlet]

Candorick was kind of a leech ngl

[haughty star]

praise me harder emporeror uwu

[ornate hamlet]

dunno why you didn't kick him

[spice veldt]

i personally run unyield on my duellie as well yeah

since i hit rager BPs with DD up and don't care about non-crit mutant oneshots

[scarlet timber]

are these good builds guys?

[rigid sky]

I like Carapace maniac on my DS4

[scarlet timber]

Ds4?

[rigid sky]

Duelling Sword 4

[scarlet timber]

That ain't dueling sword though

But I dont know

Is that very good

Trauma staff ?

I heard now rending Shockwave isn't the best

[hardy raft]

this ones a very, very good rebding staff lol

rending just does things good

not great but good

[rigid sky]

I was responding to #psyker-class message

[upper sun]

i hope someone at fs pulls my in game chat records

theyll see Hi and FUCK HADRON every other game

[hardy raft]

fuck hadron all my homies hate the rng

[restive ice]

ooo you want that hadrussy

[upper sun]

no

i hate techpriests so fucking much

those toasters have iq similar to that of rocks

think about it how would you teach a trash bag of a human being to put in a battery at the correct polarity? you tell them theyll go to hell if they dont

how do you teach one to not over torque a screw? make them do a prayer every time they do it

their whole religion is just the IT guy explaining to how to use a computer to a child

[hardy raft]

no, those toasters have iq similar to that of an actual toaster

not the fancy one just the barebone ones

[hardy raft]

well to be frank they probably have been a child that had to learn how to use a computer without manuals and become whatever they are rn

[upper sun]

what makes it worse is that theyre zealous about being stupid

[slow heron]

accurate all things considered, it's all part of the delightful dystopian decline of the imperium and humanity. An Empire forged from greed, hatred and short term thinking foisted upon the unprepared masses who have no hope or plan other than to maintain the crumbling edifice because they cannot comprehend an alternative.

the Adeptus Mechanicus serves as no truer symptom; misers who hoard knowledge but have no understanding, the idea that something can be invented or created an anathema and heresy. knowledge cannot be gained in the true sense, only uncovered and found. you cannot learn, only maintain as all knowledge already exists and it is blasphemy to assume that you might improve something which, by definition, already is perfect because it was found.

scavengers who think themselves divine, labourers who can only maintain...

a cult of rust, picking over the ruins of what was lost.

https://tenor.com/view/the-only-hope-hope-only-sweet-sweet-relief-gif-14029580392642845532

[upper sun]

they treat all techpriests that dare to expirement or be more secular like shit

[hardy raft]

well, except dying just leaves you in the warp

so

[upper sun]

hell they met the emperor he knows how most of the tech worked he could have told but them but they prolly would have rejected him if he did

one day im gonna strap hadron to a table and teach her ohms law

bitch would short circuit

[hardy raft]

from what i can tell he really wanted them on his side and not do another fucking war which is why mechanicus kinda sits wierd in the imperium spectrum
they're on their own, just cooperating with the imperium
well until heresy and they decided they just want to go inside the imperium, but "give us a really good shit to compensate or you have a titan in front of your castle"

[upper sun]

after the heretics the xenos after the xenos the mutants after the mutants THE TECH PRIESTS

[hardy raft]

tbh probably emps did thought about the same thing

well before magnus

[slow heron]

the mechanicus had guns, he needed guns. that's kind of the long and short of it ^^

[upper sun]

techies get the rope last

[hardy raft]

tbh considering about lion's army

space marine would have got the last noose

[upper sun]

uhh whats wrong with them

i did Adderall and listened to all of the horus heresy in one week so everything is mixed up

[hardy raft]

lion's army had an actual artificial intelligence-robots to counter mechanicus when the time came

in short that never came

[upper sun]

smh that sounds pretty heretical to me

end result of all AI is killing all humans

[hardy raft]

it was done by the emperor

[upper sun]

wait was it during the mars schism?

[hardy raft]

during heresy p sure

[rigid sky]

What happens if Emperor is heretic

[hardy raft]

im also not really knowledgable but p sure that is correct

[upper sun]

what if you miss placed ur knees

[upper sun]

i remember something about them finding an AI underground in mars during that

no wait that was the AI that spread the virus signal

brb reading 300 books

[hardy raft]

i think thats the scrapcode kelbor hal accidentally released after unlocking the mars vault

smart move

[slow heron]

query, have people been having issues with disrupt destiny not working as intended? specifically the bonus stack duration node? just had a mission where it seemed like it wasn't lasting for 10 seconds as intended.

just couldn't build stacks of it despite taking down blue boys

[supple dock]

If I recall it's still a bug. It works fine

just visual

[slow heron]

aha, good to know! thanks

[rigid sky]

So there are two buffs you gain when you get a DD kill

one is very short lived and is the speed boost

the other is the stacking damage buff

the damage buff part often doesn't get displayed

you can use a mod that fixes it though

but it's frustrating because it makes it quite hard to gauge whether you need lingering influence or can get away with perfectionism

I just take lingering influence either way to save myself the headache

[slow heron]

ah, so the quick burndown I've been seeing is that shorter buff

[marble crater]

I swear all the psyker keystones are visually bugged sometimes

[rigid sky]

yep, lasts like 2s

[slow heron]

cheers folks, that helps a ton.

[signal sluice]

My new turd, rolled in glitter

[marble crater]

I think you took the dump stat too far

[signal sluice]

You're right, I need 2%

[rigid sky]

Get spamming that Venting shriek

[signal sluice]

Oh yes

The warp charge generation is cracked

[rigid sky]

Meat grinder doesn't count lol

[signal sluice]

Why? 😮

[rigid sky]

You're not gonna get that rate of warp charges in a real game lol, you're torching targets that give guaranteed charges on death over and over

You gotta rely more on the random ones in practice

Buuuuuuut you can get those pretty quick too

During a horde, shrieking usually refunds itself with in fire reborn

[signal sluice]

I have a hard time tracking the charges in a game, with the weapon blessings showing up

[plucky flax]

I use crosshair hud mod.

For the nice little circles near my crosshair.

[marble crater]

Mods are your answer for everything

[plucky flax]

Mods = cheat.

Please no cheating.

[signal sluice]

My first time hearing the Psykanium is a guaranteed charges on death mind you

[plucky flax]

No it's only against elites.

Killing chaffs in meatgrinder don't guarantee charge.

[marble crater]

That said, I tested in Fire Reborn and it felt worse than the 4% chance of getting a charge from every kill. Even with Blaze Trauma, maybe I will try again because one game isn't a large sample size

[plucky flax]

Oh blaze trauma don't take fire reborn.

[hardy raft]

you get 4%

[plucky flax]

Only purga should take it.

[hardy raft]

even pruga can get cucked

haha full auto on horde vet

[hearty oak]

Honestly, it makes it easier building peril

[plucky flax]

Vampiric thingy on blaze trauma for sure.

[signal sluice]

Yis

[hearty oak]

it just won't be in the 500's

[marble crater]

Further proof that it's a bad staff, please buff

[plucky flax]

It's getting buffed with blazing spirits 4 and more damage/radius/charge rate.

[hardy raft]

omg cant stack more than 4(6) blaze!!!!!! trash!!!!!!!

tbh if you give all that it's semi-buffing rending shockwave too which is nice

really good supportive staff

[plucky flax]

Who plays blaze with shockwave?

RIP crit chance.

[hardy raft]

no

just shockwave - flurry support staff

like maybe you could wing like a very scuffed assail true aim blaze shockwave shit

idk why you would

but you can

[hardy raft]

large radius and quick charge just means taht entire map is gonna be filled with unarmored basically

[plucky flax]

Rending trauma bad.

[hardy raft]

eh

its a good support staff

doesnt get the job done by itself but its great

[plucky flax]

Even against armoured modifier (melee scab only), blaze is so much better.

Mr. Unsanctioned told me so.

[rigid sky]

imo the bigger part of rending shockwave staff is the warp flurry

you don't take flurry on blaze because you need the crit more

[hardy raft]

oops all elites just likes the kill to spread soulblaze 3 shit

[rigid sky]

but without blaze you don't need crit at all

rending shockwave is the secondary blessing on rending staff

flurry is the real powerhouse

[hardy raft]

it just compliments eachohter imo

rending (very slightly) fills out the armor pen damage and flurry just lets you spam the debuff, stagger and damage

[rigid sky]

Rending shockwave's just the next best one after Flurry if you don't have blazing spirit

the other options are just all bad

rending shockwave at least does something

[hardy raft]

you can go mediocre and go for flurry nexus

which is

idk really

surge blessing on trauma whoever thought of that shit should be dumped to the nearest torrent

[slow heron]

and in fairness, that something is useful in the team context. putting crushers and bulwarks on their arses while also making all incoming damage better does prove handy. the CC is the bigger aspect (stop those bloody overhead slams) but making it so your vets, zealots and ogryns can finish them off that little bit faster is nice.

[hardy raft]

its extremely great team CC staff

except you can actually build blaze trauma to snowball damage

and as every great player know

best CC is kill

[plucky flax]

That is if they even know about it.

[hardy raft]

well the one who knows about it usually tries to run blaze trauma afterall

that said the low max countage does make it quite unnice on its own i guess

not the most disturbing thing tbh

[marble crater]

Best CC is smite

[hearty oak]

Best CC is voidstrike

[plucky flax]

Who would ever play blaze trauma

[hearty oak]

No one in their right mind

[wind spruce]

Idk about that, flurry + crit is legitimately a strong contender against rending trauma bc crit gives you access to mettle procs and the damage from perfect timing

[quartz barn]

I do like how 90% of this chat boils down to arguing about builds to make trauma viable

[hearty oak]

Yeah right cause trauma will never be viable

[quartz barn]

If they ever buff trauma the rending setup will be better because ibdont see them buffing blue fire

[scarlet timber]

Guys about Pygex guides

Are they still up to date ?

Cuz I got this knife right

Apprently its the best according to his guide for psyker

But zealot chat think it's bad idea

[sturdy pasture]

That’s some good stats bleed, 70 in most stats, big damage yeah it’s awesome

[scarlet timber]

Thing is the zealot chat tells me

I shouldn't have flesh tearer instead I should get

Precongnition

[scarlet timber]

But thanks betrayer dude

[sturdy pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/shawn-the-sheep-shawn-approved-two-thumbs-up-good-job-gif-17687872

[hearty oak]

Yeah cause it's zealot chat. Everything is garbage but not

And also, you are asking a different type of fruit how one weapon is when its different on psyker.

[wind spruce]

His guide recommends Mark 6

[scarlet timber]

Oh I guess thats true but ehhh you see im poor...

[wind spruce]

For psyker it's better than the mk 3 because the push attack is forward stabs and it has horizontal sweeps for heavies

[hearty oak]

Mk 3 and 6 have the mostly the same swing pattern. Mk3 is just more singular focused

[wind spruce]

Lights are the same

That's it

[hearty oak]

Right. The lights are

The heavies I guess is preference cause

Why would you use knife on psyker

[scarlet timber]

Tbf I am running this weapon with this

[hearty oak]

Aside for mobility

[scarlet timber]

This

[scarlet timber]

I heard

From some dude on twitch knife will go well with

[sturdy pasture]

Oh that’s real good

[scarlet timber]

Trauma

Cuz trauma can't kill bosses and muties

While knife is the best at it

[hearty oak]

That's what BB is for

[scarlet timber]

Who bbs muties

That's risky af

[wind spruce]

Just because the knife is brought for mobility doesn't mean you don't sometimes wanna do other things with it

[scarlet timber]

I see okay

[wind spruce]

@scarlet timber your knife is set up well

[hearty oak]

If you're stacked on buffs and you the ability to, it's possible. It's hard to explain it without showing what I mean

[scarlet timber]

I see okay tbf I am running warp siphon

With Trauma

[hearty oak]

[scarlet timber]

Cuz I realised this

Staff

Uses crazy amount of peril

And I need to shriek often

Compared to any other staff I think this one uses the most

I dont know

[hearty oak]

It's manageable. I can't state how grossly OP it is to get all your stacks and unleashing BB

[scarlet timber]

I be honest playing with this build the biggest struggle was petrol of scap gunners

I see okay

Cuz trauma is medium range weapon I believe

So I'm stuck behind barrel spamming bb

And can't do the zealot knife yolo bullshit cuz you know... I'm not a zealot xD

[hearty oak]

Exactly. You want to keep building ep stacks and don't even be afraid to vent to get kinetic resonance off so you can spam BBs all day on elites

Even you don't have peril, it's still not a bad idea just to get cast speed to get long range elite kills in a moments notice

Also helps with boss killing

[zinc phoenix]

I found it was a lot simpler to go trauma with bubble/assail/ds4 because it gave tools for defense/range spam/mutie poking. IMO warp charge is straightforwardly the best option in most builds because it lets you spam your special + has various utility benefits when you aren’t using it.

Idk that I see the synergy of EP+BB with trauma personally. Like why not just do flaming trauma with shriek if you want a dps build?

[rigid sky]

It's flexibility

Some times you get a team that just can't deal with the dozens of gunners the game throws at you

and you do better boss dps and crusher dps having EP

either way works tbh

Definitely take EP if you don't go shriek imo

if you go shield, there's not much point being WS

[wind spruce]

I can somewhat see the argument for crushers and monstrosities, but for gunners you can achieve 80% of the same effect with just kinetic resonance

[marble crater]

I should buy it, just on the off chance it gets buffed, but I won't out of principle

[scarlet timber]

I see thanks man

Btw

I was testing this knife against bosses

It actually does pretty decent damage to them

[hearty oak]

You could. I just prefer EP when I'm using BB for gunner killing. Sometimes you gotta be quick and clear the elites cause the team just isn't doing it

[rigid sky]

EP also lets you oneshot dreg ragers iirc

which can be useful

[marble crater]

Kill one gunner, shriek at the rest Perilous Combustion does the rest

[hearty oak]

Can never one-shot the flak ragers though 💢

[dense valley]

yall got any of that surge staff build just got an usable one

[marble crater]

This is what I use for my surge illisi build, you can put the extra point from the smite upgrade somewhere else, like soulstealer

[finite sigil]

whats so good about smite

it doesnt do damage

[upper sun]

its a nice left path side when you dont want brainburst

[finite sigil]

and im playing on the lowest difficulty and its too stinky to use

[upper galleon]

Scales better with the enemy density of auric damnation, and yes, the main downside is the lack of damage except one build

You go EP smite+venting flames shriek

Get the soulblaze talents, pump your damage up

Now you can kill everything below an ogryn in a large cone in 8 seconds or less

[lone ravine]

what kinda guns are good if i wanna play gun psyker

[hearty oak]

What does the obscuros have over the other force swords

[marble crater]

Nothing

[lone ravine]

obscuros is the worst force sword iirc

deimos is better single target and illsi is crowd

[marble crater]

Most popular is columnus infantry autogun

[finite sigil]

i mean if a spell isnt good for a lvl 7 account how do the devs expect me to go back and use it later?

shit game design imo

[upper galleon]

Multiple weapons have this issue

Any ranged weapon that cleaves

[finite sigil]

oh yeah dude its really good when you play 600 hours later in a really niche mission type

[upper galleon]

Plasma, revolver, agri shotgun

It’s unavoidable if you want aoe options

Aoe will scale with density you playing sedition lol

[marble crater]

Smite is not shit, it's very good in the situations it's meant to be used. If you use it as your primary weapon then yeah it's bad

[upper galleon]

You don’t know shit game design you still in the tutorial

[marble crater]

7 crushers coming your way? Smite and your team can kill them easily. 20 ragers? With EP and shriek you can solo them

[upper galleon]

And you can get in auric damn if you pick an easy to craft build like 5 levels past 30

[upper galleon]

Hell sometimes better to just swap to staff/sword and contribute single target damage

[marble crater]

Great in mixed hordes when you hear a poxburster but can't see it, gets stunned and your team is safe

[upper galleon]

Void and surge staff both stun pretty consistently

[marble crater]

Yes, I'm just giving examples for smite being not shit

Sometimes I will stun the crushers and sometimes I will use surge, depends on the situation. If they suddenly come around the corner I will smite them, if we see them beforehand then probably not

[plucky flax]

Warp resist so high. D:

[plucky flax]

You unsanctioned creeping flames spam build.

[rigid sky]

sounds like you're suffering from shit player design

[rigid sky]

Auric damnation isn't niche, it's the endgame

Level 7 gameplay is niche.

[upper sun]

i legit cant find games for anything other than auric or malice

[dense valley]

thx this thing is broken asf lol

can surge staff head shot tho

[plucky flax]

Nein.

[upper sun]

on primary fire yes on secondary its center mass

[marble crater]

Lies, primary attack definitely can head shot

Agent spreading misinformation

[dense valley]

should i change anything on this or wait for t4 blessing

[upper sun]

crit damage doesnt give you much

[marble crater]

Crit damage, ew

[dense valley]

lol I mean its usable

[plucky flax]

I can headshot on blaze trauma right click.

[marble crater]

The way crit damage works, makes crit damage bonus pretty much worthless, change it to Elite/Maniac/Unyielding

[upper sun]

btw how do you do the purge lmb spam?

[finite sigil]

how do we fix