psyker-class

[rigid sky]

And you can dodge into outer space

[lethal swan]

when I popped it and unloaded my columnus on the head of a pogryn

do you take assailt for just knocking out big elite mobs and snipers?

[rigid sky]

Supplementary horde clear

[lethal swan]

oooo ok

[rigid sky]

Ammo saving (both magazine and total)

[lethal swan]

makes sense

what do you do with the last skill point

[rigid sky]

Synergies with SG and DD

[lethal swan]

just whatever is comfortable?

[rigid sky]

Personally, warp replenishment

Warp speed is also an option

[hearty oak]

Really whatever. The build is so strong it wont make a real difference

[rigid sky]

Consider even dropping the last point on DD and take botu

Both

[lethal swan]

which one is war replenishment

warp

[rigid sky]

Gain toughness when gain peril

[lethal swan]

ahhh ok

Warp Expenditure?

[rigid sky]

That's it

My bad

[lethal swan]

no problem I thought it was that one haha

it sounded about right

[rigid sky]

It's underrated tbh

It's our weakest toughness talent

[lethal swan]

also Columnus as the gun yeah?

[rigid sky]

But it works when our others aren't working

Yep

I put the weapons in the build

[bold cape]

i might try out assail since i get maybe one use out of smite per game
my psykinetics aura tho, sadge

[lethal swan]

excellent

[rigid sky]

Consider other blessings from deathspitter btw

Dumdum is essential

But there are like 4-5 good options for the other slot

[lethal swan]

yeah

[rigid sky]

Same for riposte on the DS4

You only NEED uncanny

[lethal swan]

yeah I have a really good ds4 roll

2 of them actually

one has precog, one has riposte

[rigid sky]

Highly recommend making the DS4 a Carapace one though

[spice veldt]

i'd run with the riposte one if you have DD

since DD will push you over the BPs anyways

[lethal swan]

that's a good point

[rigid sky]

Big crusher blobs, or mauler blobs, are very real

[spice veldt]

and the relative finesse boost from precog is lessened with the finesse buffs from DD

[rigid sky]

A Carapace DS4 2 shots any of them

[bold cape]

2 shotting crushers is a drug

[lethal swan]

yes lmao

[rigid sky]

And they're the only things that really stand up to your gun and assail

[lethal swan]

let me get a pic

yeah

[rigid sky]

Maniac is mostly just for styling on Mutants, it is probably not even necessary for DD

[lethal swan]

i honestly really like playing gunker

yeah, but I love oneshotting mutants

LOL

get that fat ass OUT of there

[rigid sky]

You might be able to without

Not sure

Mine has maniac so I can't tell

But yeah, it's fun just being raw power

[rigid sky]

Crowd control? Lol nah

[lethal swan]

my first one

[rigid sky]

Shields? Get tae fuck

[lethal swan]

second one

[rigid sky]

Lucky git lmao

[lethal swan]

yeah LOL

game REALLY wants me to play psyker

[rigid sky]

That second one

You can turn into literally any type of DS4

[lethal swan]

i know lmao

[rigid sky]

I'd just upgrade the riposte imo

[lethal swan]

just basically swap Riposte out for T4 riposte or Precog

[rigid sky]

Uncanny 3 is functionally the same as uncanny 4

[lethal swan]

yeah

its just a few % right

oh wait

[rigid sky]

It's one less swing to hit the rending cap

[lethal swan]

yeah 100% rending already on t3

yeah lol

and one hit already is 100%

[rigid sky]

BTW if you haven't tried it

DD voidstrike is disgusting in different yet similar ways

You don't murder bosses but you do murder everything else

[lethal swan]

yeah I think you told me about it last time

haha

I definitely run both

I remember you said I could take warp flurry on voidstrike

instead of the crit one

if I take dd4

oh yeah what's the horde clear combo on the dd4? I've just been spamming lights

[rigid sky]

Uh, I think I was recommending the crit surge one still

DD4 btw? You mean the DS4?

oh right

I remember now

yeah I think flurry is more suitable if paired with DS4, yes, but it's not how I'm playing it atm

I like my nexus surge one too damn much lol

oneshotting crushers at long range is glorious

But yeah, for horde clear I just spam lights

[spice veldt]

pretty much just spam lights

if you're taking assail, farm true aim stacks with ds4 and throw out assail every so often

or just voidstrike them

[rigid sky]

Yeah, I think I was saying flurry void because it horde clear supports better

I mean it's a horde clear weapon at that point generally, it's what you get for sacrificing the elite killing power

[lethal swan]

DS4 my bad lol

sounds good haha

anything I can do to improve this?

yeah that sounds about right lol

[rigid sky]

Or change crit perk maybe

Not sure what to

Unarmoured or elite maybe?

Flak feels like it wouldn't be necessary

[lethal swan]

yeah that's what I was thinking lol

i was like i'm not sure any of the other perks change anything

unyielding maybe? for bosses?

[rigid sky]

It is never gonna be great vs bosses

It feels like it should be

[lethal swan]

yeah lol

why kamehameha no big damage

[rigid sky]

Guess it has to have some weakness

[marble crater]

The weakness is that you have to aim

[lethal swan]

[upper sun]

i support crit perk on surge(blessing) void

[rigid sky]

Mine might even be crit as well lmao

[upper sun]

crit flak is the new flak maniac

[ornate hamlet]

real shit

[weary crane]

How does surge actually work, does it just send out 2 bolts when you crit

[honest robin]

yeah

i think i've noticed that if it goes off on a shot that brings you to 100 peril you explode

even through it doesnt double charge you i think it sets you off

[rigid sky]

The second bolt is a low charge normal shot btw

But it is enough to go over some thresholds and cleave deeper through a crowd

[honest robin]

oh does it actually add extra peril

[rigid sky]

Idk

I just mean in terms of what the bullet is

[whole epoch]

it doesn't add any extra peril but if what this guy says is true it's got some goofy coding

[honest robin]

i was firing from <100 peril and exploding

which is not how any other peril thing works

[whole epoch]

i guess it's just hard coded to kill you if you use a warp attack at 100%

[shy pewter]

I think if you attack at 97%+ you explode, you can definitely kill yourself by firing really close to but still under 100. I haven't used surge much so I don't know if surge can double dip on peril and kill you

[spice veldt]

i'm not seeing it in the meatgrinder at least

the 97% threshold is only for brainburst and something to do with the charging mechanic

everything else is any value under 100%

[upper sun]

one primary bolt that does damage one secondary one that does 25% of the main bolts damage with a maximum damage of like 276?

wait shit

CAN WE GET SEPERATE NAMES FOR BLESSINGS AND STAVES

[honest robin]

im talking about the voidstrike blessing but im gonna take it into the lab in a little

[marble crater]

Someone should really rename that blessing

Ah clad already raged about it I see

[upper sun]

brutal momentum gets a different name on edged weapons because it doesnt make sense

but we cantr get a seperate name for SURGE

[marble crater]

I'm blanking, what's the other brutal momentum name

[upper sun]

perfect strike i think

no wait thats the crit one not the weakspot one

death blow?

[tired estuary]

Yeah deathblow is bromentum on heavy swords

[marble crater]

[spice veldt]

it's pretty weird since their code name is basically the same as well

i guess somebody forgot about the other blessing existing

[honest robin]

ok im going in the lab with my staff

lets see what % peril i can die from

ok im not replicating in the psykanium

even from very high perils on release hmm

[rigid sky]

Power Sword says lmao

[upper sun]

peesword is just a glorified pmaul

[vernal temple]

well this looks fun. I'm 90% of the time a surge staff enjoyer

first time I get Surge on a Voidstrike

[marble crater]

Nice, I would change Flurry to Nexus

[strong gulch]

Void is a slower weapon than surge staff. Nexus + surge blessing is more DPS, but if it feels way too slow, flurry can feel better (dps loss tho).

If you go the flurry route, the true aim node is a must.

[upper galleon]

Flurry plus transfer peril or surge nexus

Both good with void

But i like surge build for stunlocking monstros

[upper sun]

from what atlus says apparently flurry surge is "almost as good" as surge nexus

the extra spam apparently makes up for the lower crit

[upper galleon]

Idk? If I’m going flurry im going transfer peril

So i can keep spamming

Maybe that’s bad with vent and for warp nexus

[long wharf]

Void with surge was better when you could stagger-lock bosses with it

[vernal temple]

yeah, that makes sense, more crit chance means more Surge

[strong gulch]

I'm the odd one out and run flurry + nexus. It took me like a year to get surge on void and I don't even use it. 🙃

[long wharf]

You can do flurry+surge, True Aim does a lot of work when you aim well

[strong gulch]

When you aim well is the qualifier.

[long wharf]

Yup

[strong gulch]

It's not me.

[long wharf]

Sucks to be you, I guess

[strong gulch]

yee

[marble crater]

I switched load outs too close to mission begin and had to play Trauma Illisi, because not everything saved

It sucked

[upper sun]

love when that happens

my favorite part of that carnival map is when you spend 5 minutes looking for one poxwalker after clearing the area

[marble crater]

You would think you could find him really quickly with the 40 people fighting heretics there

[upper sun]

oh no emperor forbid the pick up strike team has to fight 1 poxie and a bucket head after we killed like 500

[ionic sorrel]

Can you use a hold right click assail for stacks? I'm not sure if it works that way.

[strong gulch]

Melee and ranged can build true aim stacks including assail and BB. I just am really good at crotch shots and toe shots.

TBH I don't love void, so one less thing to be watching out for while playing that staff is good for me.

It's not void's fault, it's a me issue. I still take true aim regardless.

[vagrant onyx]

Chum bucket superiority

[upper sun]

I believe in buffalo's supremacy

[hushed egret]

so, does terrifying barrage literally do nothing or what?

[upper sun]

who knows i'd never use a weapon with it

[hushed egret]

I have it on a Surge, but before I replaced it I wanted to see if it did anything in the psykhanium

couldnt even get anything to flinch off it

[hearty oak]

Its a perk i think even the devs werent too sure about. Considering the limited list of blessings for the surge staff

[strong gulch]

It will suppress enemies if you are killing them in close proximity to you. It won't suppress things like bulwarks or ragers.

For regular use of a weapon, terrible barrage does almost nothing or just isn't impactful.

HOWEVER, if you are memeing with LMB / primary spam only, it is a cornerstone blessing.

[hushed egret]

didnt work in close range either

I was kissing the guy I killed and no suppression

[jovial juniper]

Guess what, some enemies are straight up immune

Or won't stay suppressor for more than 1 second

[hushed egret]

oh I know. but I pulled out a gun to make sure they could be suppressed and they instantly cowered

meat grinder testing, so no random bs or testing in the heat of combat

[jovial juniper]

Yeah, your weapon is enough

[hushed egret]

that's not really a relevant comment. I was talking about the terrifying barrage blessing for the staffs

specifically surge in this case. didnt do a thing

[atomic walrus]

I feel like taking one blessing out is the best here.

[jovial juniper]

It becomes relevant if you take in consideration that your weapon already suppresses then why do you need a redundant blessing?
But yeah TB is garbage

[upper sun]

i woudlnt blame you damage is kinda low and everything other than slaughter is mid

[lethal lagoon]

Blazing spirit is completely useless on force sword, but you never know if they'll buff it, and the sword is mid, so yeah.

[atomic walrus]

Yeah I feel like I should take it Blazing spirit out so I can put it on something else.

[upper sun]

spent 1000 hours earning t4 blessings
after crafting updates you can buy them for 1k dimantine

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

i swear if they make blessings easier to get and dont give us some compesnation im gonna be really salty

[atomic walrus]

I'm just getting back in to the game, did they really add that?

[upper sun]

nah

well

not yet anyways

[atomic walrus]

Oh, they're planning on it?

[jovial juniper]

Prepare the refinery

[upper sun]

nah theyre plannong on a crafting update no one knows what will happen

[lethal lagoon]

What about all the time I spent getting curios with 2 perfect rolls

I need compensation, NOW

[upper sun]

that happened to me 6 times

im good

[lethal lagoon]

Just kidding I'm not 12 and understand that creating a better gaming enviroment is the first priority in order to attract a larger audience.

[upper sun]

delete that post right now

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-hood-good-slap-slap-funny-gif-15416414

I DEMAND SATISFACTION 🩲

why does fs default to briefs?

[atomic walrus]

Is it ever worth it to re-bless a weapon with a tier 3 blessing?

[wheat tulip]

I didnt know force swords had slaughterer never rolled one Im going to have to see if they get decent damage with that because they were trash without it

[lethal lagoon]

I mean if you don't have the tier 4

[lethal lagoon]

You can roll hundreds of weapons and never get the tier 4 you want, that's the nature of this crafting system.

[upper sun]

40k plasteel for thrust 4

[atomic walrus]

I don't but you only get 2 changes per weapon.

[upper sun]

100% worth it tho

[lethal lagoon]

You can always change it to tier 4 later?

[atomic walrus]

See this is good information

[lethal lagoon]

I don't get what you are asking, everything is on a case by case basis when it comes to weapons.

[upper sun]

man they really dont have to rework the system just make it 3 changes

[lethal lagoon]

Oh you meant you literally didn't know you can change it mutiple times

[upper sun]

thats all i ask for

[atomic walrus]

I thought the cap is always two changes max

[lethal lagoon]

Well no, you can change 2 things, but those 2 things can be changed as much as you want.

[atomic walrus]

Oh, so if you re-bless two times you can change them to anything else you want later?

[lethal lagoon]

The blessings are for example permentaly locked, but I can change the perks an infinite amount of times.

[upper sun]

maniac instead of flak

[lethal lagoon]

Who runs flak on illy? Give me their names so I can block them

[upper sun]

me

[lethal lagoon]

Ok bye forever

[upper sun]

Flak maniac goes on all weapons

👋

[atomic walrus]

Ah, well then I will just re-bless my duelling sword with a tier 3.

[jovial juniper]

Good old Fatshark, it's either awful or state of the art

[lethal lagoon]

I don't see the point in patchworking a bad system

It's a temporary bandaid fix, the fundemental problem is still there

[upper sun]

think how much easier getting good weapons would be if you only needed 1/4 things to be good

[lethal lagoon]

It just moves the goalpost and soon that will feel bad too

[upper sun]

smh theres no pleasing u

[atomic walrus]

Well I have a good starting point

[lethal lagoon]

Hadron about to brick that so hard you are going to look at your roomba kinda funny.

[upper sun]

🙏 Uncanny 5 and maniac 7

[upper sun]

two more

BIG MONEY BIG MONEY

[lethal lagoon]

[atomic walrus]

I think I need to farm more plate still for the last one tho

[hushed egret]

that wasnt it. surge doesnt suppress, at least not the secondary. the idea was maybe kills with the secondary would suppress nearby gunners but nope

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah I don't think TB's problem was ever about being redudent, it just doesn't seem to really work.

[atomic walrus]

Well I hope I get good ones on the two last ones

[lethal lagoon]

Hadron saw that low cleave damage and decided to increase your horde clear

Could it be that dump stats are why hadron keeps dumping on our weapons!

Hadron loved us all along

[atomic walrus]

Hadron is just trying to help

[jovial juniper]

It looks good on paper, big damage, fast charge, stun lock everything around, but only on paper

[upper sun]

🤔

[lethal lagoon]

Just in case, focused channeling doesn't work either.

[upper sun]

dont weapons already do that

[lethal lagoon]

So give up on having anything other than flurry and nexus on Surge.

[jovial juniper]

It's about terrifying barrage

[upper sun]

actually how does the terrifying effect actually work on melee

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think there's a melee weapon with TB

[upper sun]

i notice if i like one shot an elite or something the trash around them get scared

[lethal lagoon]

Or you mean in general

[wheat tulip]

if surge staff had better aim it would be a better brain burst but I can never seem to hit what Im aiming at, its great damage though

[upper sun]

but there is some effect by default

[lethal lagoon]

I think crit kills cause terror

[upper sun]

yeah

[lethal lagoon]

Or can cause terror

[upper sun]

🤔 ill try

lemme see if i can test that

[hushed egret]

I can usually hit what I'm aiming at, but just a minute ago I was aiming at a rager in the meat grinder, crosshair center of mass, and hit the poxwalkers behind him like 3 times

[jovial juniper]

Pretty sure some weapons have suppression by killing tied to the stats

[strong gulch]

In a game now and it is doing what it typically do. Different enemies respond differently or not at all. Basically only the smaller mob enemies get suppressed. It helps horde clear/ management. Nothing more really; and it seems inconsistent with that depending on if enemies get suppression resistance or immunity.

Meme only.

[hushed egret]

didnt work at all in the meat grinder

on any enemy

[spice veldt]

i see TB working on groaners and whatnot in the meatgrinder

tested with a trauma staff lmb bolt with and without TB

oh i guess it should be stated that among the melee enemies, only groaners can be suppressed

[upper sun]

ok i cant see the melee terrifying effect working

[upper sun]

do you know why some enemies get terrified when you kill something else in melee?

[spice veldt]

they cower for a really short moment

[upper sun]

yeah but why

is it crit kills or what

[spice veldt]

some weapons inflict a suppression radius on kill

voidstrike was notorious for this before they nerfed it (unless they haven't nerfed it)

[strong gulch]

You got the creature spawner mod and turned on their AI right? You're killing within, the blessing's stated range too?

The time they are suppressed isn't super long and all of the enemies won't stay completely locked. idk is there is a cap on it.

It's working for me.

[spice veldt]

(well, it wasn't notorious for it because no one used it back then)

[upper sun]

i tested with void couldnt get it to work

[hushed egret]

I used surge so maybe it just doesnt work on surge secondary

[spice veldt]

revolver still has this property it seems (the suppression radius centered on the killed enemy)

shredder autopistol should also have this looking at the stat card

[hushed egret]

on console so no ai on, but I can suppress them with a gun so if terrifying barrage builds the same suppression status it should work just as well. and yes I was in range. blessing doesnt state anything other than close range, but it had no effect even when I was inside the enemy I was killing

[strong gulch]

I just did a game with a couple hilariously bad players and one competent player who was probably irritated at the other people's bad play and my memeing with LMB spam and terrible barrage.

PC and creeping flames doing more warpfire damage than the purg psyker.

[hushed egret]

I imagine this is a ranged weapon property that all ranged weapons have, even if it isnt one of the 5 stats

[spice veldt]

yeah just that them having enough for it to be noticeable

[strong gulch]

then no clue.

[lyric burrow]

i dont think it suppresses the whole room anymore no

although it just kills so fast you wouldnt notice if it did

[spice veldt]

suffering from success 😔

[upper sun]

"I love the crafting system because you can be given a completely quirky weapon and you’re in a lobby with someone who has a god roll. And skill becomes clear (with a scoreboard mod) where just because you have a good weapon doesn’t mean you’re good. I think that this effect is well represented with the current locks that exist that strike a perfect balance between RNG mitigation and RNG’s existence in the game as a whole."

this dude is trolling right?

[spice veldt]

i love gambling

[quartz barn]

you really dont need a scoreboard to tell if someone is good or not

also lol, rng existence in the game as a whole

[spice veldt]

genshin impact has done irreparable damage to humanity

[quartz barn]

the ai director deciding to spawn 50 bursters on me = good weapon but no skill?

[wheat tulip]

to be fair I use it mostly for gunners and shotgunners so Im jumping above the crowd trying to thread a needle and it just targerts something close but not my target

[upper sun]

um aktually if you rolled hourglass blessing on your deimos you would have survived

[quartz barn]

good thing i dont use deimos and just shoot in spawn doors

[upper sun]

hell yeah

i remember the good ol days of refinery delta where it was just 5 minutes of beating two doors

fucking playtesters had to ruin that

[spice veldt]

the real change would've been to add doors with hinges

[hushed egret]

now now, lets not pretend like the scoreboard mod is really worth much of a damn. if you judge peoples skill on that, you'll think anyone with a remotely supportive playstyle and build is trash

[quartz barn]

false

support playstyle gets points too

the difference here is that most people that play support do fuck all

[upper sun]

i simply make a mental check list of how many times anyone goes down or gets disabled and judge based on that

[supple dock]

correct!

[hushed egret]

on that scoreboard? I dont see any support oriented stats. nothing for cc, nothing for helping allies past revives, the such

[upper sun]

thanks

[quartz barn]

cc is shown by staggered enemies

[supple dock]

"support playstyle" is literally a crutch that players use for being ineffective

[spice veldt]

would be cool if destroying a fuel silo flooded that area with pox gas

[upper sun]

best support is killing stuff

[supple dock]

You can support AND still have effective damage

[upper sun]

ye destructible environments/cause and effect on the map would be nice

[spice veldt]

my main motivation is that finale arenas are kind of boring and very static

[hushed egret]

do you see a staggered enemies stat on here?

[quartz barn]

also rescues are listed, coherecy %

[upper sun]

theres only like the the optional doors you can close at the uhhhh amphitheater?

[quartz barn]

you dont use scoreboard do you

[upper sun]

the last section in mercantile

[quartz barn]

thats ovenproof first of all

[spice veldt]

yeah those are neat as an interactable thing

[hushed egret]

completely and utterly false, especially in payker chat, the most cc oriented class in the game

[spice veldt]

though i don't end up closing the doors cuz i want more stuff to kill xd

[quartz barn]

and literally everything can be toggeled on or off

[supple dock]

kay, time to bring out the video

[upper sun]

more of that would be nice

[hushed egret]

coherency isnt all that "support oriented"

[dusk void]

idk about the whole cc thing 🤨

[supple dock]

"support" is a crutchhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920768195185496064/1243381844242731038/the_power_of_red_stim.mp4?ex=665b2854&is=6659d6d4&hm=d962fed86d77d671459c292af48743eb993efeb5377b4a114a8919842be2c458&

[hushed egret]

well, seems likely most people wont have more support oriented stats on and will make judgements based on that

[quartz barn]

here's a basic scoreboard btw

[upper sun]

the only stat i respect on a scoreboard is plasteel

[hushed egret]

alright we got staggers. still doesnt capture the full picture, but at least we got that, big step up

[supple dock]

as shown in the video, with a "support" skill, I just cleared an entire mixed horde solo

[spice veldt]

though regardless of that, people are going to be harsh on pubs regardless

[quartz barn]

i mean what else would you count as support

[spice veldt]

cuz i do see it a lot people shitting on pub teammates regardless

[quartz barn]

the best support is clearing all elites and specials so they dont harm the team

[dusk void]

I wish I could be like you

[supple dock]

No matter what you support with, if you aren't killing effectively or making a true difference in enemies then it's a crutch

[quartz barn]

thats why ep smite is good

because you actually kill stuff

[upper sun]

does smite actually kill stuff outside of sedation

like

even with ep

[quartz barn]

it does ye

[supple dock]

the video I posted shows what it can do

[quartz barn]

but other stuff is just better

[spice veldt]

as much as I hate it, smite does kill

[hushed egret]

hella conditional and you built it to help you do that. plus, being a support of course doesnt mean you arent dealing damage, I never said that, dont extend my point beyond the scope of what I stated

[upper sun]

ur clearly hacking

[supple dock]

lmao

conditional? Sec

[hushed egret]

of course, but scoreboard users are the worst offenders

[supple dock]

#darktide-pics-vids message

[quartz barn]

tbf its super easy to tell when someone doesnt contribute or is just outright bad

and people use scoreboard to reinforce that

i mean look at the pic i posted

[hushed egret]

shoving for teammates, covering fire, damage blocked, watching someones six while trusting them to have the front, playing objective, etc. things that are very difficult for a game to measure, gence why Darktide removed Verimtide's scoreboard, it lacked nuance

[spice veldt]

well we don't know the definitive reason for that

[quartz barn]

getting 10 revives and 5 rescues isnt normal

[spice veldt]

given that there is another glaring potential reason why there's no scoreboard

[hushed egret]

oh debuffs too, like brittleness and the bonus damage skills for the whole team like focus target

[quartz barn]

that doesnt always work

[hushed egret]

it's a very likely component of their reasoning

[quartz barn]

because it doesnt stack

[lethal lagoon]

Literally every toxic player I've encounter backseating, blaming other people, yelling in the mic about how the team sucks, has been in last place on the scoreboard.

It's quite the opposite.

[supple dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1243082353669312532/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.05.23_-_01.04.24.26.DVR.mp4?ex=665b62e8&is=665a1168&hm=579e143bf5f9cec4804c6b3fc007f7809b44cf5476589b3f991d355741af4066&

Conditional?

[lethal lagoon]

Without a way to check themselves, idiots become toxic.

[spice veldt]

maybe, but there's also the fact that the game released unfinished and a scoreboard certainly isn't at the top of their priority list compared to other things

especially when they're working at such a glacial pace by default

[supple dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1243065438557044746/real_game_smite.mp4?ex=665b5327&is=665a01a7&hm=b26557d0c19a9dddebbbf0ba0d6278221bc2bde635369a597c9bd6b2703c65fc&

CONDITIONAL?

[lethal lagoon]

Except a player doing all that is almost always going to be 1st or 2nd on the board.

It's a horde game

General player skill will scale with damage.

[hushed egret]

toxicand last place doesnt mean they arent using scoreboard. though most scoreboard users are likely sweats, and sweats are one of the larger wells of toxicity in any game ever

[wheat tulip]

is the damage resistance bombers on the curio still only for their melee attacks or does it apply to the flames now?

[spice veldt]

applies to the scab bomber's flames but not the pox bomber's gas

[wheat tulip]

good enough, pox bombers arent that sracy flames chunk me if Im unlucky

thanks

[supple dock]

and, AND

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1242638842469683230/EP_smite_example.mp4?ex=665b175b&is=6659c5db&hm=667acf93a591709cffe613f3e268563317b60c039b510229d751f9eab4ec0719&

Smite on its own

well, with creeping flames

but I mean no trash to get battle meditation off

[spice veldt]

oh wait i don't think i bug reported bomber res not affecting pox bombers

[hushed egret]

you used a damage stim, that's hella conditional. empowered psionics is building your support ability to also be a good hirde clear, not just a cc ability. I rest my case

[spice veldt]

oops

[lethal lagoon]

Here's an average game where I'm smiting 90% of the time.

[supple dock]

I posted other videos without combat stim 🙂

[hushed egret]

I dont build for damage. but I'm a hella good player. does that make me bad because I have an orientation towards cc rather than full send dps?

[lethal lagoon]

If you are pubbing, and that's true, you'll usually be 1st.

[supple dock]

IM A HELLA GOOD PLAYER

[hushed egret]

but with ep, hence my point

[supple dock]

[lethal lagoon]

It's a horde game, damage will scale with skill.

[lethal lagoon]

You can find another surge smite user running warp charges that posts 1mil+ damage, I have no idea what your point is.

[supple dock]

yep!

[lethal lagoon]

If I thought your mind could be changed, I'd go look up his boards for you.

But you seem really set in your ways.

[supple dock]

Supporting does not mean giving up damage

It means different priorities in combat

[hushed egret]

maybe. better than most players I match with, but a player of equal skill with a dps build would get higher stats on a scoreboard than me pretty much everywhere. thus, my skill according the scoreboard mod would appear lower than another of equal skill

[lethal lagoon]

It's a horde game.

[supple dock]

Thats all

[lethal lagoon]

The best support you can provide your teammates is killing a crusher not stunning it.

[supple dock]

If you really are a "good player" you'd learn real fast that not doing damage is bad lmao

[hushed egret]

that's another part, dealing damage to everything doesnt mean your damage was good

[wheat tulip]

Wait, is damage the dump stat on trauma staff? Its a 30 damage difference between 65% and 80%

[supple dock]

for blazing spirit it is

For rending it is not

[spice veldt]

depends on whether you hit BPs or not which i haven't tested

i personally dump damage on trauma but i use it as a side weapon

[lethal lagoon]

I literally have the highest horde, elite, special, and boss damage in that board I just posted. What do you mean "good"?

Xbox players lmao

[wheat tulip]

its literally 630 to 660 and 129 to 138

[hushed egret]

not entirely of course, but at least partially. sacrificing damage to take a brittleness or impact blessing is a dps reduction for yourself

[supple dock]

no, because you can kill your target faster too

it's literally just a skill issue

[hushed egret]

payker has a lot of % damage buffs, I'd prioritize damage on that alone. +30 can scale into +120 pretty fast

[hushed egret]

I didnt see your board and you didnt menion one in the message I replied to

I can only see so many of these messages

[supple dock]

atlas was correct. You're so set in your mindset that even while looking at proof you're unable to comprehend our points

You're exhausting and I only have so many enjoyable hours in the day

[hushed egret]

and I also didnt say you did bad and maybe your teammates were worse than you justifying being the highest on the board for damage or so many other factors

[supple dock]

goodluck to the rest of you

[spice veldt]

i suspect that people don't like support playstyles because they don't think that supporting the types of pub teammates that they often get will be worth it compared to just loading yourself up

[hushed egret]

havent been shown proof, only assumptions beyond what I said

[lethal lagoon]

Support playstyle just means "My team now only has 3 DPS in a HORDE GAME, I'm sure it's fine."

[hushed egret]

most of what y'all has said has been assumptions of my stance beyond what I said, or alternate perspectives I've largely agreed to and addressed

[lethal lagoon]

Help me, I can't stop.

[supple dock]

shh it's okay atlas

The man who can't understand videos and proof isn't real and can't hurt you

[lethal lagoon]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/discussions/0/3935643263194411095/

[hasty breach]

hee

[hushed egret]

but a damage buff means more damage for your allies too, and generally less damage for yourself than you would have done with an alternative. lmao

[supple dock]

I'm support. It's my teammates who can't deal damage

[clear heath]

hello, what are people arguing about this time?

[shy pewter]

That's.... ooof what a post

[lethal lagoon]

I'm support. I'm carrying despite completely ignoring the point of this game.

[hushed egret]

havent been shown really any proof against what I said. and again, Imve acknowledged and largely agreed to most of what y'all have said

[supple dock]

supporting as psyker means dealing less damage 🙂

[clear heath]

well, that depends, but everyone should still be doing damage

[lethal lagoon]

That post is literally all I can think of when people bring up "support". It sums it up so perfectly.

[supple dock]

based and factual

[dusty orbit]

i play smite with empowered scionics what does that make me

[lethal lagoon]

OP

As long as you use shriek

[dusk void]

So I'm basically a trash player. Good to know

[hushed egret]

support playstyles deal less damage because they amplify the damage of their teammates. that's literally just factual. how much less damage, that's per build and playstyle and context, but less dps nonetheless

[supple dock]

top damage, second place if you're with a really good player

[wheat tulip]

supporting as psyker means dealing alot of damage to select targets and ignoring chaff because honestly I can eat through the entire chaff horde solo on any zealot, if theres too much chaff pull out trauma and delete things

[clear heath]

if i see someone do like 10-15% less damage than everyone else but i notice they're doing stuff like bubble shield instead of spamming shriek fire everywhere, then like i get it, that's fine.

[shy pewter]

Also who gets so tilted while playing MALICE that they need to go and make a "fed up" post on the forums

[clear heath]

if i see someone trying to excuse dumpster damage because they're "support", then no it doesn't work that way

[lethal lagoon]

That's literally the best part. The guy is support... in malice.

[dusty orbit]

i think smite goes from support role to damage role the moment you unlock empowered scionics

[supple dock]

[hushed egret]

ye

[lethal lagoon]

Holding down smite while shriek spamming with warp charges can rack up pretty crazy damage.

[shy pewter]

Good thing he's there to stem the tide of 6 poxwalkers, he's doing the emperor's work

[hushed egret]

@supple dock this was my point after the combat stim thing I said

[wheat tulip]

people were posting 1m damage games as EP smite a while back its the king of damage not so much of kills

[dusty orbit]

do not take my word as fact, im new to this game

[wheat tulip]

that was before stims

[hushed egret]

this was another point of mine

[wheat tulip]

when you take 50% of every mobs health on the map you wrack up alot

[lethal lagoon]

Half the point of Smite being OP is that it's great at triggering PC

What do you mean not kills.

[hushed egret]

whats PC btw?

[lethal lagoon]

[wheat tulip]

well you hold things in place for melee to go up and whack so you take half the hordes health and then everoyn else takes the kill

[hushed egret]

I dont use talent acronyms

[lethal lagoon]

I have the most kills with EP smite in almost every game I play.

[wheat tulip]

there is no way to get the most kills when i can literally fury for 40 kills through your wave

since it doesnt stop if you kill what you run into

[shy pewter]

Perilous Combustion, the one that spreads soulblaze after elite kills

[hushed egret]

have you tried not being an asshole? not everyone uses your lingo. answer genuine questions instead of making people out to be stupid

[hushed egret]

thank you

[hushed egret]

wait maybe you werent doing the emote to me

sorry if I misunderstood

[lethal lagoon]

They need to make emote big in a single comment

People intruppt my chains all the time.

[hushed egret]

true

too frequent

[supple dock]

The point is. Psyker is support secondary, damage primary. If you're focusing on "supporting" then you're going to be playing worse than you can be

[hushed egret]

agreed

[supple dock]

You're going to be ineffective for no reason

Because psyker's strength is being able to kill ANYTHING at any time

[hushed egret]

everyone is a dps first, but every class has a bit of a secondary role they cant escape. for psyker that's cc. you dont have to have much, but you'll always have some. maybe not if you run gunker

[dusty orbit]

smite can both support and damage i think

so why not both

[supple dock]

It deals some of the most damage in the game with the proper builds

[dusty orbit]

palpatine roleplay

[wheat tulip]

gunker has the best cc, when you cast death nothing can hurt anyone anymore

[supple dock]

https://tenor.com/RfTn.gif

[wheat tulip]

smite gets a bad rep from the people who throw it out and expect people to come running to save them or literally throw it out at every single wave and take the fun out of the game

[dusk void]

I stopped playing support psyker due to the fact that I wasn't really doing any significant damage. So I went agro psyker and I am pleased at my playing style. PC, VS w/ Wildfire. I am loving my build

[dusty orbit]

what?

[lethal lagoon]

Yes, that's why we are arguing agaisnt Support psykers.

[wheat tulip]

youve never been in a game where theres a smite psyker throwing it out at hordes of 4 poxwakers expecting you to kill it?

or has it been so long since you leveled something thoguh malice

[dusty orbit]

i play smite psyker

[hushed egret]

true

[wheat tulip]

so do you throw it out every chance you get or are incapable of fighting hordes so use it to save yourself then die repeatedly? thats whos giving it a bad name

[supple dock]

My condolences for the brain rot. Your appointment with the doctor will be seen after Atlas then me

[hushed egret]

I like having it in my back pocket for god awful situations

[lethal lagoon]

For reference, EP smite with shriek will kill every single Rager in this area in 8 seconds. There's no comparable damage ability. It functionally breaks the game and makes it too easy at times.

[wheat tulip]

for a while I ran it for like a dozen rager/crushers but I like BB for precise deletion now

[lethal lagoon]

Of course it doesn't just end at 8 seconds, that's when the PC kicks in.

[dusty orbit]

wdym throw it out at every chance i get?

am i not allowed to use my own blitz?

[wheat tulip]

I mean there are people who ltierally dont use their melee or secondary and just throw out smite

[supple dock]

Like vs 3 poxwalkers vs stabbing them

[wheat tulip]

at every single enemy

during those games I just run ahead its not like heresy or below are dangerous

[lethal lagoon]

Every conversation we have is implied auric t5 or auric mael.

Not saying you are wrong about smite spammers who do no damage.

But that is the POV we are discussing from.

[wheat tulip]

well smite has a bad rep because thats like the top 5% of players and most people never see it

[dusty orbit]

auric means difficulty level right?

[wheat tulip]

and instead see smite on poxwalkers

[lethal lagoon]

t5 is difficulty level, auric means hi int at minimum and a stronger director.

It's the second mission board.

[dusty orbit]

i usually play at difficulty 4

[wheat tulip]

I usually just play normal hi intesity damnation I dont want to do aurics that much

[lethal lagoon]

Normal hi ints have a lower "tension" meter, basically a spawn limiter.

[wheat tulip]

yes I dont want to fight 4000 things to get to the end doorway I like the level of gameplay on those

usually 2.5k is where im happy

[dusty orbit]

i just like smite :(

[lethal lagoon]

Use smite with EP and creeping flames shriek.

And Surge staff for normal targets, so you still get the lightning.

[dusty orbit]

i do all that except shriek creeping flames

the concept of doing more damage makes my brain release funny juice

[lethal lagoon]

So shriek makes your smite cast longer.

So you smite till 85% peril, shriek, keep holding till like 97%.

The creeping flames from shriek does enough damage to kill every horde, mob, brusier, and ranged mob.

[dusty orbit]

warp rupture can be really helpful for clearing up low health enemies when my peril reaches 100%

besides i dont really understand the whole soulblaze thing

[lethal lagoon]

Warp rupture has a really strong fall off.

It only works for like a 3rd of the shriek range.

Creeping flames covers all of this with the same damage.

[dusty orbit]

wait

[lethal lagoon]

Warp rupture damage basically falls off just a little past that fat part.

[dusty orbit]

THE SHRIEK HAS THAT MUCH RANGE???

[spice veldt]

we have very strong vocal cords

[lethal lagoon]

Both verticall and horizontally

It's a warp ice cream cone

[strong gulch]

We can scream through walls too.

[lethal lagoon]

Btw, it's only affected by your looking direction side to side, up and down are based on character height.

[lethal lagoon]

You probably never noticed cause warp rupture does so little damage past like 10 meters.

I mean it barely does good damage up close honestly, but even less further away.

[strong gulch]

the 85% peril is when you call apply max soulblaze stacks to A LOT of enemies and can clear a horde by itself. That including snipers. It will put a hurt on some of the elites too.

[lethal lagoon]

Snipers, bruisers, any non-elite ranged shooters.

[strong gulch]

Like 20 of those bruisers as a psyker can be scary, but you can yell at them and run away.

[true lake]

now this is art

[lone ravine]

scream and run for your life

[narrow herald]

Me when I use smite:

[lone ravine]

does height affect it all that much or is it like a 1-2m difference vertically

[lethal lagoon]

It's done by an unknown but well respected Artist

[true lake]

also if warp rupture is the one that makes shriek do straight damage, dont grab that is legit so pointless

[lethal lagoon]

To be clear, I meant standing vs jump vs crouch, vs standing on box, etc.

[lone ravine]

ah

[lethal lagoon]

I have no idea if character height, as in the slider, matters.

I'm guessing it does.

[true lake]

you get so much more benefits out of the burning shriek instead

[lone ravine]

burning shriek also synergizing with wild fire for even more burning

[spice veldt]

soulblaze stacking moment https://streamable.com/hnjmox

[true lake]

if you feel like going into a bunch of burn stuff yeah

[lone ravine]

doesnt burn shriek also deal more dmg or

[true lake]

with DoT yeah i think so

[spice veldt]

not having falloff is also a boon compared to rupture

[lone ravine]

psyker so powerful he erases all existence of several scab ragers

[true lake]

you arent really using your shriek for killing, its more of a "get out of my face/weaken" and "oh shit imma blow up"

[lethal lagoon]

Psyker so powerful he warps reality to a lower rez to match his poor eyesight.

[true lake]

also those guys who make funky builds that spam it with lots of warp attacks

[lone ravine]

smite ep moment

[true lake]

shriek is definitely cool to look into if you have a loadout that relies on you using warp attacks specifically

already using it tons for most of your damage, might as well spam burn to everything too

[lethal lagoon]

Burn shriek will kill all horde, brusiers, ranged mobs, and snipers.

you know how sometimes a little horde will spawn behind your team, literally just yell at them and they'll die.

[eager token]

pls remove warp rupture fatshark

[true lake]

warp rupture would be nice if it had more range

[eager token]

it needs to clear fire/gas

and then its good

[true lake]

i mean i feel like yell in general should do that

[lethal lagoon]

You need a force sword with a variety of buffs for warp rupture to even kill all horde

It's super mid even with full range

[true lake]

just fucking yell at the bomber

or like have a standoff between psyker and flamer

psyker yells at flamer so damn loud that flames go backwards

[lethal lagoon]

Puts out flames and causes the flamer to not work for 2-3 seconds

I mean I'm still not dropping creeping flames, but at least make warp rupture interesting.

[true lake]

it just blatantly is a horrible pick

[wheat tulip]

I didnt realize how powerful 90% toughness regen it took me from sstrugling to survive to as tanky as my zealot its better than the 5% toughness on curios for sure

[eager token]

alright whats the easiest way to play 14 more games without anyone going down

[wheat tulip]

true solo

[eager token]

lmao TRUE

[true lake]

do you need a certain difficulty for it?

[eager token]

malice or above

[true lake]

then yeah just do easy solos

quick and simple

[eager token]

but i'm gonna be bored

[wheat tulip]

yea just spend 7 hours of your life for that penance

calculate how much you make per hour

[true lake]

i mean going to take a while regardless

[wheat tulip]

and ask if its worth it

[true lake]

best you can do is speedrun that shit

[eager token]

i finally got that stupid zealot 40 stunned enemies and this is all i need for 100% cheevos

[true lake]

cant rely on others to not get downed

also the usual random special that perfectly downs you through a horde

and of course had 0 spawn sound to let you know they existed

[shy pewter]

What does this node do

[true lake]

what it says on the tin, toughness regen speed for you at all times and also any allies that happen to be near you

idk why they used the word replenishment instead

[wheat tulip]

you get passive toughness over time depending on who is in coherency that gives 10% more so like .25% for 1 other person inside for example

but it also makes it start faster

so its kind of worth it

[true lake]

its not bad at all

[wheat tulip]

stacking alot really helps just the 10% though might not be worth it

[true lake]

most of your toughness regen stuff will be on your curios anyway

with your talents giving you some ways to replenish toughness consistently in combat

[wheat tulip]

yea like i said above I got 90% and it really really helped but 10% for a talent point seems like a waste

[true lake]

speaking of i really badly need to rework my curios

shit be all kinds of fucked

[shy pewter]

Yeah the curio regen helps a lot if you stack 90, 10% seems underwhelming asf

And thanks, I know what regen is, I thought replenishment might be something else

[true lake]

its more nice for your teammates than yourself honestly

[shy pewter]

But its just FS being terrible again

[wheat tulip]

ask yourself if you would trade ANY of the top level talent points for 10% toughness and youll see its underwhelming

[true lake]

personally i love my high crit chance

[wheat tulip]

if i had 1 more I would take perilous combustion not the toughness regen

[shy pewter]

I will take 5% TDR over 10% "replenishment" then thanks

[wheat tulip]

I lied, I realized Im 1 away from kenetic dedflection so I have 2 points I would put it first

[true lake]

am i the only person who doesnt like kinetic deflection

[shy pewter]

I do not use it basically ever

[wheat tulip]

its basically a free tank the boss forever talent but otherwise its just for oh shit stuck in horde moments

[shy pewter]

My philosophy is that if you find yourself using kinetic deflection, you should have been positioned differently

[true lake]

i just dont find myself in a situation where i need to tank a boss lol

[spice veldt]

it's a free revive teammate node and makes cspawns easier

[shy pewter]

OH WAIT you mean the talent. Yeah I like it for bosses

[true lake]

usually because i blow up boss with mind or slice them with my deimos

[wheat tulip]

sometimes you dont have a choice but I really like it for bosses sicne I basically super juice my brain bursts take half its health and then its on me until it dies

[spice veldt]

since it allows me to just stand in place for the cspawn instead of having to kite away, often from my own team

[shy pewter]

I was thinking about Deflector blessing

[true lake]

also because i rely on warp quite a bit for attacks

likely more useful than the blessing

[wheat tulip]

I use trauma more often than my ds if Im in a melee heavy group but sometimes you have 2 vets so you have no choice but to melee alot

[true lake]

see thats where we differ (and thats totally not because i never managed to make a good trauma)

[wheat tulip]

even bad traumas are amazing, it provides all the CC you need for heavy groups, shreds through chaff hordes and I use brain burst so I dont need an elite secondary

if I was using anything else it would be void or surge for sure but trauma is great

[spice veldt]

i melee elites a lot to make use of perilous combustion

since ds4 allows me to quickly guarantee kills

[true lake]

one day i will try out ds4

[wheat tulip]

yea I mean I love dodging through rager hordes to 2 shot them but for crushers watching 8 of them flail around with 12 stacks of brittle is funny

[true lake]

and wear the trader hat with it to pretend im some mysterious vagabond

[wheat tulip]

made this at level 30 and it works fine

[true lake]

oh you run the rending variant

heard mixed things about that blessing

[wheat tulip]

I dont need the burning one it eats through hordes in 1 hit 70% of the time and the rending lets other people trash melee elites in no time flat

so I throw one charge out then swap to ds

[spice veldt]

rending shockwave does get justified if you're doing a lot of dps on your other slots

i personally run rending shockwave + blazing spirit since i primarily just play with assail + ds4 and have my trauma to pop big groups

and rely on true aim for crits

[wheat tulip]

Honestly I really like the reliablility vs the only on crit from blazing

[true lake]

fair

[wheat tulip]

with how brittle works you basically do true damage after a single full charge right? it reduces armor so ds pen should ignore armor?

or is it just rending under a different name

yes the damage doesnt change on the second full charge

[true lake]

brittleness basically makes the enemy take a debuff that allows you to "ignore armor", aka they take more damage

and because of that your teammates should also benefit

according to a post i read its bugged when it comes to using weapons with high penetration by default

but idk i dont really look into all those percentages and thingss

[lethal swan]

What combos do you do on the Deimos? Is it Light, Heavy, Block, repeat?

[true lake]

usually light into heavy stab

idk if the block really matters much

but for single target you want your second hit to be that heavy stab

[lethal lagoon]

The burning is for the big blast, not the small one.

[dreamy bramble]

Deimos light one to block cancel to light one and so on is great for stabbing groups of bruisers in the face. Its like psykers version of the helbore bayonet, but you can dodge farther and more often.

[shy pewter]

I thought you were crazy but the same thing just happened to me. I was at about 87k and then did a mission, came back to check on it and it says I'm at 65k

[lethal lagoon]

When you feel like your salary has gone up but then you plug it into an inflation calculator

[shy pewter]

Hopefully its just a visual glitch lol

[lone ravine]

mine fixed after a mission so hopefully yours does too

[lethal lagoon]

I wonder what could even cause that specifically for shield

[lone ravine]

no clue

[upper sun]

ignore inflation just scale down by only eating catfood

my diet has been rolled cigs coffee ground meat potatoes and onions and i dont feel any worse

[clever hollow]

so whats the meta now ?

surge staff or what

ive been using Trauma

[upper sun]

meta's whatever works well for you most things are relatively well balanced

[stone totem]

Horse food is better bang for your buck iirc

50lb for $30 vs. 30lb for $30

[lethal lagoon]

Rice is cheaper than horse food per calorie.

[stone totem]

Counterpoint: you have to cook rice

[lethal lagoon]

Counterpoint: humans can't digest horse food

[stone totem]

Maybe you can't

[lethal lagoon]

I can digest horse food about as well as uncooked rice

So the point stands

[stone totem]

Maybe I just have the horse food gene or smth 😌

[eager token]

the loner penance sucks

[dusk stump]

You don’t have to digest it if you make it into powder first

[eager token]

[lethal lagoon]

Only if you are flexible

[upper sun]

the tobacco is what makes it pop

[fast eagle]

I'm still fighting myself here is pyro staff good or is trauma staff?

[lyric burrow]

both are good id argue trauma is better though

[lethal lagoon]

All staves are good.

[upper sun]

got clutched by a naked man at 6:00 am

[supple dock]

was it full naked?

or just like, pants

[upper sun]

just pants

also i was listening to a podcast while trying to sleep

"Therefore, all psykers are collected by the infamous Black Ships of the Inquisition and rigorously tested upon Terra to cull the most dangerously weak-willed, mad, and otherwise unsuitable from the rest"

apparently psykers are all taken to terra

so get rekt zealots technically were the only ones that ever saw it

[analog agate]

Maybe I am behind... is DD glitched? I can't stack it and it disappears in less than a second

[upper sun]

sometimes the stack visually glitches on the buff bar but you still have them

[supple dock]

was it runt lmao

[upper sun]

i dont remember the name something that either started with an H or an M

[supple dock]

[upper sun]

eu region so idk if youd know them

[lyric burrow]

yeah they just dont show sometimes but you do still have stacks

[supple dock]

I go to eu region all the time

[upper sun]

i got wacky silo cluster last section

one person got downed and went to help then got trapped from above and died

naked man and a vet soloed that last section

[supple dock]

lmao

[sacred crane]

warp resistance is a lil low, but is it still good?

[lethal lagoon]

Have warp resist a little low might even be helpful cause Purg doesn' generate a lot of peril

My warp resist is pretty low, but all that does is cause me to lose more braincells

[sacred crane]

so i assume its just dump stat

[upper sun]

it is yeah

[lethal lagoon]

Damage is a dump

[upper sun]

try it out

[lethal lagoon]

Resist just doesn't really matter between 60 and 80

For Purg

[upper sun]

warp ress doesnt make much of a difference unless its on force swords

thers a far bigger gap in peril generated in swords than staves

undent me rn

[sacred crane]

PRAISE BE THE FUCKING EMPEROR BITCH

[upper sun]

nice

[lethal lagoon]

NGL, I never expected you to actually get a great purg.

You just don't have that vibe.

Impressive.

[sacred crane]

proven wrong

[upper sun]

🤔

what vibe dont i give off

lemme roll that weapon

[lethal lagoon]

You have that NPC vibe. So your gear is unattainable by the average player but in terms of meta, it's a bit meh.

[upper sun]

[lethal lagoon]

[supple dock]

LMAO

always something new huh

[hearty oak]

Ngl, the psyker loadout is probably the best balanced class out of all of them. Put the time in and you may turn into a naked voidstriking smyker and make matches unfun for Rat zealots

[teal terrace]

Picked up a really nice Purge staff from Melk, not sure what to do with the perks tho

[supple dock]

maniac/flak/crit/unyielding

[lethal lagoon]

elites to flak

[teal terrace]

I'll switch out elites then, thanks

[supple dock]

oh, I thought I saw 2 open spaces

yeah elite to flak

[lethal lagoon]

Kusu-chan baka

[supple dock]

[supple dock]

kusu-kun sounds nicer

[lethal lagoon]

That would make me the anime girl

[rare elbow]

is it better to full crit or dmg against ?

should i just go with slaughterer too?

[supple dock]

tbh if you want crit riposte will do you better, but it really doesn't matter what you choose

you have uncanny

that's all that matters

[rare elbow]

yea i did try to horde clear and i was struggling hard

let me switch to riposte

[supple dock]

Deimos doesn't perform nearly as well as illisi but it can manage

[rare elbow]

i see yea

what about executor is it any good ?

5% dmg on weakspot stack 5 times sound pretty good tbh

considering the deimos nature

[rain birch]

Is precog 3 any good on dueling sword?

If I pair it with riposte 4?

[upper galleon]

usually you want uncanny strike + precog or riposte

but if you don't have uncanny the two of them together should be just fine,

[rain birch]

Crud I see

[upper galleon]

just gonna be a bit worse into armor

[rain birch]

Oh ok

Good to know

Ty

[upper galleon]

yea lol there is a large gap between useable and "META"

[rare elbow]

im pretty new to psyker but why precognition anyway?

[lethal lagoon]

pre cog is considered the worst option.

[supple dock]

precognition is massive damage, but it's pretty random since you can't realy make use of it within 2 seconds always

so eh

use it meaningfully*

[bold cape]

id take something that can reliably do big damage over something that can inconsistently do massive damage

[rare elbow]

i see

so what about something like executor

or slaughterer?

[potent echo]

Riposte is better, but almost equivalent to shred

There's no slaughterer on duellies

[upper galleon]

You can get 2 massive stabs at least per dodge

[potent echo]

Precog is very good for bosses you you know how to dodge dance

But I think arco tested it's quite similar to shred in the end

[upper galleon]

I can understand not liking it but precog and riposte come about the same on knife and i’d assume the same on ds

[potent echo]

I tested abit too, not much difference

[upper galleon]

Yee, shred would also be fairly consistent

[lethal lagoon]

d4 is so overwhelming strong it honestly doesn't matter too much.

[upper galleon]

Also true

Uncanny on DS alone already makes it god tier

Just the thought of using it with my 54% attack speed martyrdom zealot is making me drool

[hasty breach]

why do we have so few zealot emojis

[bold cape]

imagine ds4 on a crit chastise zealot
good heavens

[lethal lagoon]

We need at least like 4 net-related emojis for zealots

[strong gulch]

Riposte or shred will get you 20% crit chance, it's kinda preference or how you play that really makes the difference.

If you are good about dodging, and not just moving out of the way, riposte gets you the crit chance faster.

[hasty breach]

something to do with shroud knifers

[rare elbow]

oh wow nvm

executor is extremely easy to proc on deimos force sword

should be best in slot

[lethal lagoon]

Did you test in-game?

[rare elbow]

yea

[lethal lagoon]

Cause in the pysch, I'm basically a professional FPS player. Outside of it...

Then yeah, that works.

[rare elbow]

making it a pretty good horde clear right now

[upper galleon]

Competes with slaught imo

And you always take uncanny

Def not bad, it’s a good blessing

But slaught you can’t drop

[rare elbow]

better than shred on deimos too

i just take executor over slaught for elite dmg tbh

[cosmic sigil]

am i the only one having the game freezing randomly?

[rare elbow]

no tho sadly

[bold cape]

my game constantly has like 3 second long freezes, thankfully it’s only in the ship but ive no idea why it’s happening

[lethal lagoon]

You can always try turning off virtual cores for unexplainable freezes if you have a intel cpu

[bold cape]

amd here

[cosmic sigil]

Same amd

And also 1 to 2 seconds long freezes. Obviously whenever a dog is around

That threw my last game. Thx.

What's the rule for tuning off cores?

[rare elbow]

i just set it to half lmao

[lethal lagoon]

Look up if your CPU even has virtual cores

[cosmic sigil]

It's Ryzen 5 5900 HS

[lethal lagoon]

Doesn't look like it has virtual cores, so at least that's not the issue.

Another issue might be whatever device you have reconnecting. That would cause the stutter.

Like a wireless mouse or gamepad or some shit.

[cosmic sigil]

Sorry ryzen 9

I am fully wired.

[rare elbow]

perhaps it internet

[cosmic sigil]

So 8 cores / 16 threads

[rare elbow]

most of the time freeze for me mean it about to 2001

or 2004

[cosmic sigil]

So yeah have those as well

But it's not the same

[lethal lagoon]

You can set the priority for darktide to be higher.

[cosmic sigil]

It's like the CPU is going from 3000hz to 700

[rare elbow]

hmm i see

[lethal lagoon]

So, details, darktide.exe, set priority

Set it to high.

[cosmic sigil]

I didn't think of that

[lethal lagoon]

A potential dumb solution is to make sure darktide is actually running on your graphics card and not cpu

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah it's usually when my neighbors are watching TV or YouTube

[cosmic sigil]

Considering I have dlss one yeah it's on the GPU

[rare elbow]

yea true

also try to shit ur game graphic see if it fix it

[cosmic sigil]

here>

?

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I'm a dummy.

Details in task manager

Right click, set priority

To be clear, not Realtime lmao. Just high.

[cosmic sigil]

well, i tried to reinstall my cpu drivers and it made me downgrade / repair my previous istall

so imma start with that lol

[half turtle]

did they ever fix enfeeble +10% damage only applying to lmb of smite

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think it was ever broken.

For some reason there's no debuff applied

[fresh vessel]

What's the usual gunker build look like?

[lethal lagoon]

But for smite itself, it seems to work
I haven't tested if it applies to other player's damage though from RMB. But at the very least the RMB damage goes up 10% multiplicativly.

[lethal lagoon]

Assial, scrier's, DD with columnus and d4 or knife.

[hearty dagger]

Ngl i had the best timing possible at some point

A seer psyker was quelling high peril and said "Yes, beloved, hiding is cheating"

I thought it was a quell line but turns out it was for cover

[restive ice]

psyker underpants

goes well with striped pajama pants

[wind spruce]

Step ones are the best

[lethal lagoon]

I thought it was just me getting underwear ads on that website.

[wind spruce]

What does enhanced blitz do for brain burst

[supple dock]

uhhh lower peril usage i think

[marble crater]

Give us faster charge speed

[lethal lagoon]

No peril, faster, more damage

[lethal lagoon]

Fake psyker/10

You literally only play psyker

Unless you are cosplaying as an anime girl

Then you play zealot

[marble crater]

He turned traitor, he is a zealot main now

[lethal lagoon]

[supple dock]

bruh I don't pay attention to that shit

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

Doesn't feel much faster tbh

[marble crater]

I think Atlas was talking about EP

[radiant frigate]

force greatsword when?

[lethal lagoon]

Can I have parental controls that prevent me from playing EP smite

I'm in trouble

[marble crater]

Think about how much more shriek you can spam with warp charges instead

[lethal lagoon]

[idle plover]

Scryers gaze with accatran. Acting like veteran player

[radiant frigate]

acting like veteran does not sound like "shoot everything with high RoF guns" to me

that's not vet, that's just fps players

[wind spruce]

What a silly bum

[wind spruce]

I just played EP smite bc of this comment and it felt like hot garbage ngl

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

Burning garbage is dangerous and toxic, so that makes sense.

[wind spruce]

Ima try it with warp charges

Maybe they'll feel better

[marble crater]

I play it with warp charges, but that's more because of surge than smite

[bold cape]

auric mael is rough