#psyker-class

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hasty breach
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i wasnt here for that conversation

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itd be clownish of me to weigh in now

lethal lagoon
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When the moon get's bigger just for you

lethal lagoon
lapis violet
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i think this might just be the worst, by far, penance that they've added

ionic sorrel
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It's not that bad if you play Auric with lots of enemies. Also, don't forget to get a bigger coherency circle.

lapis violet
lapis violet
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along wiiith spamming it like there's no tomorrow

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and playing void siphon

brave fiber
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lotta elites in aurics

tired estuary
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yeah idk that one just kinda happens without having to do anything different

lapis violet
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eh i forgot about what i posted

lapis violet
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cuz i'm doing both the smite and this one at the same time

lethal lagoon
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You use kinetic presence by your own free will?

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You can finish the smite one in like 1.5 games

tired estuary
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I hope they haven't patched surge counting as smite for EP and smite penance yet

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or patch it ever tbh

lethal lagoon
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Wait Surge works for both EP penances and smite penances?

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Does that mean they never actually fixed the EP bug, they just added something to decrease surge's damage while under EP?

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You were saying

upper sun
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smite takes 1.5 games
frag bomb takes 25

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frag box takes 50 games

lethal lagoon
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TBF, smite does not take 1.5 games for the average psyker

upper sun
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FATSHASRK PLEASE

lethal lagoon
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Average psyker is allergic to using anything but bubble with smite

brave fiber
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ok

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in my defense

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hmm

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give me a minute

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xd

upper sun
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took me like 3.5 games if i remember correctly

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i kept getting good teams every time i played

lethal lagoon
marble crater
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Been 5 already

brave fiber
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yeah im going through the records

lethal lagoon
brave fiber
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tons of evidence here

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loads

upper sun
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i believe em

brave fiber
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see

lethal lagoon
upper sun
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nuh uh

lethal lagoon
upper sun
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i only eat meat and veggies

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no green stuff

brave fiber
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i subsist off of cornbread and panda express

upper sun
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buy 17 pounds of ground meat right now

lethal lagoon
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Your plumbing system subsists on pure willpower

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And duct tape

brave fiber
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thats why i get a new one every time i go

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easier

upper sun
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SCAB MELEE IS UP

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LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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horrible time to have taken my allergy meds

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lets hope the mission finishes in less than 25 minutes

brave fiber
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dont take ur meds

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suffer like a true man

upper sun
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it was always too late

cosmic sigil
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Good balance and dance of death (depending on weapon) are sooooo much better than disdain...

brave fiber
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eh

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you already get so much dr from crits + aura, and i feel like dropping disdain + any other point on the tree is not worth it

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  • i did say this was primarily a dmg setup
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if you want to maximize dr thats an option

upper sun
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rip

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had to clutch against a BoN

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my favorite boss

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oh someone on my team was level 28

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thats why they died 5 times

hearty oak
upper sun
upper sun
upper sun
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||windows live or xbox||

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worstenemy guy was good tho

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if they didnt get barreled we could have duoed it

hearty oak
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tbf though, i been seeing steam players trying their hands in T5 and having a rough time

upper sun
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people have good and bad days tbh

hearty oak
hushed egret
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platform =/= skill thumbsup_ogryn

upper sun
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yeah i agree ive seen a bunch of good xbox people

hushed egret
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there's a trend for console players to be more casual, and casuals generally perform worse, but you have good and bad everywhere

upper sun
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its more the person being below 30 thats the issue for me tbh

hushed egret
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I think casuals mostly stick to malice though

hushed egret
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sometimes it's annoying when I do that though and get doubted because I'm not 30 in a damnation game when I've been doing damnation 8 levels short for the past few matches lol

upper sun
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fresh level 30 isnt the same as someone making their 5th char

lethal lagoon
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The game will try to queue you with similarly low level people, so that's normally not a problem.

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The problem is people bringing in their friends for a "carry"

upper sun
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i really doubt that most sub level 30s i see are that person

lethal lagoon
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When they can't even play the game

upper sun
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its doable tho

lethal lagoon
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Like I've seen people bring in sub 30s to aurics, and they are worse than the sub 30 they brought.

upper sun
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if ai director doesnt get too crazy even two people can be carried without too much trouble

lethal lagoon
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I don't mind carrying someone bad at the game, but I don't like carrying people looking for a ride.

brave fiber
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i want people to die because attempting to clutch is fun

lethal lagoon
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I like your energy of making sure to include attempting.

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It's very real.

brave fiber
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hey i got like a 60% success rate

lethal lagoon
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You are so real for that.

upper sun
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VERILY

brave fiber
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truthfully

hushed egret
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sometimes he's a special brand of crazy though. there's getting hordes almost all the time, then there's literally nonstop hordes with 3 monstrosities at a time and a single medicae charge per station the whole match staregryn

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lol

cinder moon
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my favorite is when you're playing normal damnation and it suddenly feels like auric histg

hushed egret
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my dodge button is so abused

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if my controller ever breaks on me, that A button is the first thing going

cinder moon
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director sending mutie after mutie when it's not stg, so they have full health staregryn

brave fiber
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last person alive, psyker with 50 hp

director whos been hiding crusher hordes in his pocket since the beginning of the match

hushed egret
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on god

cinder moon
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or you turn the corner and there's 20 dreg shotgunners inside each other

brave fiber
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theyre undergoing mitosis right infront of you

ionic sorrel
lethal lagoon
cinder moon
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atlas shrugged

radiant frigate
marble crater
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Yeah that was nice

shy pewter
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I was bamboozled

radiant frigate
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Yes

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coward culling takes a while

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coward culling is the kinetic presence penance equivalent for ogryn

shy pewter
radiant frigate
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good luck

shy pewter
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I just need it and the 150k shield to finish up the class penances

radiant frigate
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bubble πŸ’€

marble crater
upper sun
shy pewter
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Culling coward was difficult until I got a purge staff psykers on my team. It was like 200 per match without, and 2000 with

upper sun
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but make 100% sure to take the extra suppression node

azure lotus
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Guys my beloved says I need to be goated with the sauce what should i do?

tired estuary
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pick smite, hold it down on everything you see while dodging backwards and get yourself downed in a corner 200 feet away from the rest of the team

upper sun
rich spindle
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Smite hordes before theyre bunched up to keep them spaced out and less dangerous

tired estuary
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if you're really skilled you can smite mutant while it's charging so it stops right out of range of the zealot charging thammer

rich spindle
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Smite the boss so everyone gets a 10% damage boost

upper sun
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dont use smite unless its an emergency

rich spindle
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Stop trolling clad

tired estuary
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smite the boss while its aggro'd on somebody else and somebody is downed

upper sun
rich spindle
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Wtf colorism

thorn cedar
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ur a smite Psyker, its always an emergency

upper sun
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for the love the emperor do damage

azure lotus
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I need a shainsword and lazgun, because i feel a huge zealotry coming along

rich spindle
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Im starting to think the wall is mostly better than the bubble

lethal lagoon
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In this image there are 3 psykers. Guess which is the smitker.

rich spindle
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The one with all the yellow. Easy

lethal lagoon
rich spindle
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Left one is probably blaze trauma

plucky flax
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Blaze trauma always worst in team.

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Please never play.

rich spindle
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Its like, stop fishing for rng crits like a noob and do some useful smite cc for once

tired estuary
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thank goodness they buffed ogryn stagger knocks down crusher with half charged trauma

lethal lagoon
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Funny enough, the correct answer was 2 smikers and 1 blaze trauma

plucky flax
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How bad will I be after 4 months of no darktide? staregryn

marble crater
plucky flax
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Won't be able to finish sedition.

upper sun
plucky flax
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Need help in low intensity sedition. SadgeCry

marble crater
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I will carry you in sedation, with my blaze trauma

plucky flax
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That's impossible.

lethal lagoon
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I rolled 4% crit chance and 20% flak damage on this meta staff and you think I only play Smite?

marble crater
plucky flax
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46 damage OMEGAHYPERLUL

lethal lagoon
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DAMAGE IS THE DUMP

upper sun
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um aktually damage is the dump stat :)))))))

plucky flax
marble crater
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Agent will come back in time for the crafting update, crafting all the god rolls will help with sedation

lethal lagoon
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Actually, there's a 2 week time limit after the crafting update, and then all old currency will no longer be tradeable for the new currency

upper sun
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πŸ€”

strong gulch
plucky flax
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I'm sure crafting update will actually come out before september, right?

upper sun
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yeah totally

marble crater
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Consindering they said it might come next month, I would think it will be out before september, yeah

upper sun
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I will play a full game of recon psyker if it comes out at the same time as the big update

marble crater
long wharf
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FartShart never meets their own deadlines

upper sun
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t minus 1 minute until someone gets a perfect blaze trauma from melk

marble crater
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Not me

lethal lagoon
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Behold, Snailvoid.

lone ravine
lethal lagoon
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Yes, requires steam I'm pretty sure though

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Oh I guess any might work

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Cool beans

sacred crane
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opinions?

lethal lagoon
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Low cloud and no burn 76 breakpoint

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Throw it on the ground

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Purg is a fairly easy staff to roll so there's no need to settle for something so dookie.

sacred crane
lethal lagoon
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Max stacks

high turret
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is blast radius important on the voidstrike

lethal lagoon
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And I mean it's not THAT big of a deal, but the rest of the staff isn't that great, sooo

shy pewter
lethal lagoon
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Blast radius is the dump on void

high turret
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y

lethal lagoon
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Because it does nothing of value?

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And in fact, it can ruin headshots

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Alternatively, blast radius is the most important on trauma, just in case.

shy pewter
lethal lagoon
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Other than the fact you have tier 3 nexus instead of 4, that's approaching BiS

strong gulch
# sacred crane opinions?

If you just want to play the game, it's fine.

If you want to optimize, burn should be 76+ for max stacks and cloud radius should be 80.

lethal lagoon
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64 cloud though?

strong gulch
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Fine for just wanting to play the game. πŸ₯²

strong gulch
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It hurts me soul tho.

sacred crane
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its still warp nexus

lethal lagoon
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Well sure, but I can't just say, "That's a BiS Void"

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Or if I don't specificy why it's not, he might get confused

lethal lagoon
strong gulch
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Also, purg and flak go hand in hand. Seconds perk is more open to other options.

shy pewter
lethal lagoon
shy pewter
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LOL glad it came with 2 good ones. ranged to cara/unyeilding, sustained to flurry/transfer/surge?

high turret
lethal lagoon
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Sustained to Surge because you are already rocking the 5% crit chance.

high turret
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im just trying to understand

lethal lagoon
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If the blast is too large it can register as a non-headshot sometimes, especially on the Nurglussy.

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This isn't confirmed though

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What is confirmed is that it doesn't do anything of value.

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There is no benefit to be had with a larger voidstrike radius.

strong gulch
high turret
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doesnt it increase the amount of stagger you do and damage you deal overall?

shy pewter
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Gud enuf πŸ’ͺ

high turret
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like how is more damage less preferable

lethal lagoon
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Well first, stagger when you are going for headshots isn't inherently good.

high turret
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like should i upgrade this?

lethal lagoon
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Second, the actual part of the blast that does damage is pretty small and isn't really affected by the stat all that much.

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Third, a dump is about what's least useful.

high turret
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is this worth upgrading

lethal lagoon
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I would

lone ravine
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how much even is the size of your blast with that %

sacred crane
lethal lagoon
lone ravine
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oh yea whats surge staffs dumpstat

high turret
high turret
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ohhhh you're saying it staggers things behind them?

lethal lagoon
lone ravine
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this do well enough?

lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
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I'm generally pretty lazy with my edging and do it around 60%, so I would use that just fine even if mentally I'd be annoyed by the charge rate lowering my DPS by like 2%.

lone ravine
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man i usually quell like 40% at a time so im not a dumbass and forget that i dont run exclusively shriek anymore for emergency venting

lethal lagoon
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There's honestly not much point in using surge staff without shriek.

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If we are talking build wise.

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I mean fun wise just do whatever floats your boat.

lone ravine
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i mean rn im doing penances so i cant use shriek

lethal lagoon
lone ravine
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i hate how long this shield penance will take

lethal lagoon
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Coincidentally Voidstrike pairs well with bubble simply because Voidstrike exists on it's own without the need for anything or anyone.

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That's what I did for the bubble

shy pewter
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I'm at 56k/150k on the bubble rn

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Its a long one

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But I'm also only 690/2500 for the kinetic presence so they'll probably finish around the same time anyway

lone ravine
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i swear to god my shield said it was 95k now it says its 65k

lethal lagoon
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The economy is rough nowadays

ornate sedge
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swear to god, every random i get is absolute shit

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cannot belive how garbage the average player on this game is

lone ravine
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ok thank god it was jsut a visual bug

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got a whole 6k dmg shielded out of that game only 49k left to go

long wharf
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what was the patch today?

lone ravine
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fixed 1 crash and made a bunch of headgears that cover the mouth actually affect the voice

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(cloth masks actually muffle the voice)

long wharf
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verifying files every time the game updates is getting really old

lone ravine
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im not gonna verify files till my game crashes whenever it updates i aint waiting 30 minutes for verification

long wharf
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and why does this file verification take so damn long, when Steam can verify all the files, and download them all again, in 5 minutes?

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just what the hell is being verified?

lone ravine
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i honestly have 0 clue how the verification is even done

long wharf
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I'd almost believe it's unpacking all the archive files and doing a slow MD5 on each one

lone ravine
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i'll pretend i know what a MD5 is til i google it later.

long wharf
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it's a hash algorithm

lone ravine
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ah

strong gulch
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Verifying from launcher, but it turns out that you need to download a new file so steam has to do its own verification. KEKW_ogryn

long wharf
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oh good, FartShart's verification told me I needed to have Steam verify my files

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and Steam verification is taking almost as long

rich spindle
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fartshart

lone ravine
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Third sub tree path for psykers shield to turn it into saltz WP bubble when

thorn birch
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fourth sub tree psyker path where i simply turn into a daemonhost when peril overload

kindred ivy
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what are yall running on purgatus?

lone ravine
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I think mine is just flurry nexus

cinder rock
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I've only rolled 2 voidstrike staffs in 430 hours

lethal lagoon
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80 cloud, 76 burn, other stats are whatever just have warp and quell above 60.

kindred ivy
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why is flak requires?

cinder moon
kindred ivy
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wouldnt maniac be better?

lethal lagoon
kindred ivy
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for flame staff?

lethal lagoon
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Yeah, flame ticks the body, lots of flak bodies.

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I mean I'm sure maniac is fine, it's not like the BP is strict or something, but flak just covers so much.

kindred ivy
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yeah

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πŸ€”

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so crit and maniac

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manic and flak

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or crit and flak?

lethal lagoon
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Yeah. Some people like unyielding, but that's more rare.

kindred ivy
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for potential bosskills i think

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so crit and flak or maniac and flak?

lethal lagoon
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Yeah

kindred ivy
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which one of the 2 would u pick tho

long wharf
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Always crit with purge

kindred ivy
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why ?

long wharf
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Because crits apply two stacks instead of one

upper galleon
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don't take crit chance and stacks eventually cap, it's only like a 3% faster damage

kindred ivy
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i was thinking the latter , stacks cap

upper galleon
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with talent tree and nexus you already crit enough to perma sustain your on crit talents

kindred ivy
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why would i b4rother applying them negligibly faster;

upper galleon
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take 25% burn damage to an important armor

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at 76% burn you do not need 5% more chance for an extra stack

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crit chance is overrated on purge only time i could say to go it is if you are just starting out and don't have warp nexus, but you still want to use the on crit talents

kindred ivy
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wildfare?

upper galleon
kindred ivy
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wildfire?

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i imagine its not needed with purge either

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same with perious combustion

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not needed with purge

long wharf
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I disagree. Purge is all about getting stacks as fast as possible

upper galleon
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wildfire is alright for things outside of your purge range, same with perilious combustion except PC is better

upper galleon
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you are looking at a 3-5% increase in hitting max stacks, that's nothing

long wharf
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Wildfire is a noob trap

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And perilous combustion is one of the best nodes in the entire tree

upper galleon
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wildfire is more for weapons that only get soulblaze from other talents like vent or PC, i use it for my smite build

kindred ivy
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wjat aobut ability

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shrek

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or shild

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shield*

upper galleon
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but talents like warp timing, mettle, and empathetic evasion all have full uptime with warp nexus, and you can take 5% crit chance as a talent as well and not really lose anything like taking it as a perk

kindred ivy
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Β΄seer presence or precisnce?

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with seer i dnot get my shrek push

upper galleon
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i take seer, the 5% crit chance node above kinetic deflection, not the aura

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i go shriek, i like the burst stacks and free peel and get out of peril free card

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but shield is prob fine as well

vagrant furnace
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Venting Shrek if you wanna be as offensive as possible - and use bb - or shield if you are more conservative

upper galleon
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i wouldn't take seers with it tbh

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yee, BB shriek and warp charges is what i go

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maybe EP if i want to lean more into BB

kindred ivy
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kinetic presenec then?

long wharf
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I like how shield completely shuts down all enemy projectiles and ranged attacks inside it

kindred ivy
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i haev no clue how to build purgatus

lethal lagoon
kindred ivy
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thats a vidoe

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not a build

lethal lagoon
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It's 2 shields and BB, is my point lmao.

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They stack the BB buff

long wharf
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That's kinda spicy

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I'll have to play with that myself

upper galleon
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i take seer's presence so i can grab empathic evasion

lethal lagoon
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Yeah, you kinda have to run EE on purg, it's free.

long wharf
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And I always take EE

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It's amazing

upper galleon
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so i can safely spam fire vs shooters/ranged

upper galleon
kindred ivy
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joins lobby, loner zealot spotted, leaves lobby

eager token
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listen man i need the dogshit penance okay

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i'm never gonna get the kill 40 stunned dudes on zealot PepeHands

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this thing has been taunting me for 6 months

lethal lagoon
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Isn't this kinda of easy with flamer?

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Auric Magi, first tunnel, stun + flamer.

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Or rather flamer, stun, flamer, stun etc.

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Auric magi is the shorter boss map in case you forgot

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That's where I got without even trying for penances a long time ago.

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That lil tunnel is nice for a lot of things, the director can really throw the book at you there if you jump down without clearing.

lethal lagoon
eager token
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i've been trying for the achievo but

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team just kills things i think

cinder moon
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solo launch into a malice maelstrom, run to first encounter, throw 3 grenades, flame+chastise

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done

lethal lagoon
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Mod: Many more tries, saves a malice and above mael mission, wait 2-4 hours, queue into it, it'll likely stay/remain solo, done

shy pewter
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The box for flash missions gets you maelstroms

lethal lagoon
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Thanks for letting me know

shy pewter
wheat tulip
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oh that explains why I have some kills under that despire never playing stun nade

narrow herald
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@upper galleon

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behold

lethal lagoon
upper galleon
potent echo
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New day, no ogrynsussy Sitgryn

hearty oak
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The speed at which BB is casted with blue stimm + EP + kinetic

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The game cant keep up KEKW

hearty oak
# lethal lagoon 12 BBs in 10 seconds

In the midst of all the moving parts in a maelstrom, the game just cant keep up with it. Its funny but gets frustrating when you are trying to burst a boss down with it

lethal lagoon
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Does it just glitch out and skip a BB or something?

hearty oak
lethal lagoon
potent echo
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Wait

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Does two shields really stack the BB speed

lethal lagoon
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Yeah?

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You were definitely there one of the times I showed the 2 stack video

potent echo
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I just never noticedsenpai

lethal lagoon
sacred crane
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me omw to grind ordos to gain a new purgatus staff, then grind plasteel hope for at least 2 good blessings/perks until i get something that is considered good because i was told 73% burn sucks compared to 76% burn

sacred crane
lethal lagoon
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The 64% cloud radius was a bigger problem in my book

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Both are dookie though

sacred crane
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how many more stacks of soulblaze does 76% do compared to 73%

lethal lagoon
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Uno

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It is a fair bit more damage, you test it in the pysch.

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But like, in an actual game, the impact is going to depend.

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Cloud radius however, is pretty massive.

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Like anything below 78 and I'm going ehh

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Though really at my current gear point, I'd want 80

sacred crane
lethal lagoon
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That's what I mean it's gonna depend Shrug

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What if a rager enters your purg range at 25% of the cast already done. He might have died with 76% burn, but now you have to cast again.

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Or something like that

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No wait,

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That example makes no sense.

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Just ignore me and my dent. The community is pretty firm on 76% burn and they use Purg way more than me.

sacred crane
lethal lagoon
hasty breach
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my favorite zealot drip is always "this guy is clearly insane" rather than "this guy walked out of a museum"

sacred crane
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please tell me this is good

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i beg of you

lethal lagoon
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I am an honest man.

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Given you are strapped for plasteel, I wouldn't bother upgrading it, as esp as your old one has a decent perk and blessings roll.

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That said, you do need warp flurry tier 4 and warp nexus tier 4.

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So make a judgement call based on much how you love purg.

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Then again, 10% more cloud radius and burn past the threashold should be noticeable

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I'm incapable of being decisive and taking responsiblity, so the onus is upon you young one

hasty breach
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Atlas did you fall to chaos what happened

hasty breach
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then you want flak and ideally crit chance but it's a bit flexible

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purge staff does damage BY critting, since that procs most of the burn damage

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the direct damage stat on purge staff is just a bonus

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so warp nexus is the most important thing to hget on your staff

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i find purge really boring to play but lots of people pair it with venting shriek spreading flames too to doubledown on soulblaze--get those talents. BUT IF YOURE COOL you'll do scrier's gaze bc that ups your crit rate >.>

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no promises it's better but it's more exciting

hasty breach
lethal lagoon
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If they make that the base BB spd I can finaly admit that the blitz is okay

hasty breach
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IT"S FINE

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BETTER THAN ASSAIL

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AROGPAERONSLIETUNPERIAPOWIRJ

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<---brain burst

hasty breach
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uhoh

upper galleon
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Flame stacks have a cap and at 76% burn your final breakpoint the crit perk only gets you there 3-5% faster

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With warp nexus you already sustain all your on crit talents as is

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It simply isn’t worth the opportunity cost vs dealing 25% more damage to an important armor type or 10% elites

hasty breach
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well that's beyond my paygrade, not being a mathematician, so i cant comment

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you might be right

upper galleon
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It does not do damage by critting it’s base damage is low and idk if it even has a finesse score

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When you crit with it, you apply +1 burn stack

hasty breach
#

crits apply burn

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which is the spirit of what i said

upper galleon
#

Yes +1 then normal

#

That is not worthwhile for a perk point

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The 5% talent node above kinetic deflection? Yea that’s good

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Warp nexus giving a shit ton of crit, good and also you just don’t have a ton of blessing options to help with dps anyways

hasty breach
#

ok

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cool

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you do realize i was giving harley some basic advice and validating his choice of base stats and not writing a guide, right?

upper galleon
#

Yea me and a witch main went over it a long time ago and the crit perk might be useful if you dont have warp nexus yet, but with nexus and 76% burn you only hit max stacks 3-5% faster

upper galleon
#

You said ideally crit chance

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It is not ideal

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Thanks for having me witch chat

hasty breach
#

yep

ornate hamlet
lethal lagoon
#

(stacks increase exponentially at early levels so you can't just call it a 5% increase)

#

(plus more EE and mettle)

#

(actual combat application is going to be way different than you are implying)

upper galleon
lethal lagoon
#

I mean are you entering a new fight at 80%, and purg peril build up is slow AF

upper galleon
#

And with 76% burn and nexus, you already build stacks quickly

hasty breach
lethal lagoon
hasty breach
#

how do you have ever pepe emote ever atlas

lethal lagoon
upper galleon
#

Like im free to be proven wrong but im going off stuff i saw tested with debuff tracker addon and timing the difference

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Between crit chance and no crit chance perk

strong gulch
#

Oh did crits on purg get nerfed?? Crits should be applying 2 SB stacks not 1.

lethal lagoon
#

No we are discussing 5% crit perk.

lethal lagoon
#

Honestly everytime this comes up I give up, not because I think I'm wrong or right, but because I think Purg is the worst staff.

hasty breach
#

it is

lethal lagoon
hasty breach
#

but it's fun with scrier's!

#

you actually have to play a game

strong gulch
upper galleon
#

Ehh surge exists and is in a cruddy spot, purge BB is good fun

lethal lagoon
upper galleon
strong gulch
#

Unless you mean to the existing one

lethal lagoon
#

You πŸ˜– yourself

strong gulch
#

lol

#

nevermind

lethal lagoon
upper galleon
#

Lol

#

Normal plus 1 on crit

hasty breach
#

i appreciate you all but sometimes im glad i just play the game and dont know any of this stuff in detail

upper galleon
#

But yea purge kinda just suffers from flamer without fotf syndrome, i only use it with my BB EP build

lethal lagoon
#

He's a Purrfessional

hasty breach
#

it sounds exhausting

upper galleon
#

My mind is like a hummingbird shark

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If i stop moving i drown and my heart explodes /j

lethal lagoon
#

Completely harmless and constantly having brain cells die?

hasty breach
#

when you have a stroke, you can age years in brainage in an hour so people get dementia a lot afterwards.

lethal lagoon
#

(cause small sharks are nice bois and hummingbirds have realtively short lifespans)

hasty breach
#

SHARKS ARE SO FRIENDLY

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i was lied to

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ive seen like 3 sharks in my life and each one was precious

lethal lagoon
#

An autopsy of Einstein's brain revealed it was completely unremarkable other than the fact it matched a 20 year olds.

#

So keep the mind active, and stay forever young

#

Well I mean not forever, he did have an autopsy after all

hasty breach
#

existence ends in dust.

lethal lagoon
#

Another interesting part about that is Einstein was scared people would experiment on his brain, so he took measures to protect it after death.

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The funeral home person decided, nah.

hasty breach
#

i mean

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i kinda get it

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id be tempted to

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*too

potent echo
#

Aren't all our braincells just dying KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
#

People talk about video games in nursing homes 50 years from now, but realistically gamers will largely be able to live indendepently because of their young brains

potent echo
#

Especially after every EP smite game

lethal lagoon
#

I've ascended.

hasty breach
lethal lagoon
#

I've reached equilibrium and can no longer lose braincells.

potent echo
#

Everyone either doing LAN parties or hook into VR

hasty breach
#

erm

#

sure

lethal lagoon
median sorrel
#

bro have you seen the economy we ain't gonna be allowed to retire until we're 90

hasty breach
#

you dont go to nursing homes to retire, you go bc you're disabled

potent echo
#

Well better start investing loregryn

hasty breach
#

but we're all saving up for a quality nursing home secretly

lethal lagoon
#

Retirement homes then you pickle pouter.

hasty breach
#

GET RID OF YOUR RUGS

potent echo
#

I'll be 80 and still posting about amongus

lethal lagoon
#

I wont be posting it.

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I'll be living it.

hasty breach
#

ill be dead

lethal lagoon
hasty breach
#

why do all the pepe emotes end in "ge"

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oldge

lethal lagoon
#

My 80th birthday party will feature strippers in giant amongus costumes

hasty breach
#

ive never had a birthday party.

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i imagine i will stay in

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maybe ill throw king lear at the mailman

lethal lagoon
#

So no one really knows.

potent echo
#

Mailman in 2090

hasty breach
#

you think im 15?!

#

i will TOTES be dead in 2090

lethal lagoon
#

Hmm.... Pepega is the original

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So "ge" is likely the singular

#

Plus saying "sadge" is fun

hasty breach
#

ok im gonna go listen to my caiaphas cain novel and go to bed

#

cya frog boy and cool gaelic name

young ridge
#

I'll be returning to the game after not playing for about 4 months. Any important changes?

potent echo
#

For psyker? Never

radiant frigate
#

force greatsword when?

stark notch
#

At this point, I don't know whether force greatsword is something ya'll cooked up or something fatshark actually teased

#

It's come up so often here

radiant frigate
#

sort of

potent echo
#

The idea is to confuse our resident fatshark dev into thinking it's real

#

Trauma bad Sitgryn

bold cape
#

what perks do yall recommend for this?

lyric burrow
#

flak/maniac, unyielding is also an option

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if you dont have boss damage for melee

bold cape
lyric burrow
#

ds4 is p decent into bosses but yeah columnus still has better DPS generally

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ds4 wil save ammo though

bold cape
#

welp i just got this

rigid sky
#

CIAG psyker is all about the hilarious boss damage anyway tbh

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It's fun uno reversing your class's biggest weakness like that

rich spindle
#

I like raking fire for that reason

lyric burrow
#

the other IAGs are still very good but cant quite compete

rigid sky
#

Accatran laspistol better for duelling enemy shooters

lyric burrow
#

laspistol is probably the only thing that kinda keeps up ye

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again thanks to the crits and how hard laspistol benefits from it

rigid sky
#

CIAG is my favourite though

lyric burrow
#

honestly i just assail shooters though

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if i cant get into melee

rigid sky
#

Depends on what phase I'm in

#

Early scrier's or no Scrier's, usually assail

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Mid to late Scrier's or if there's a big dense corridor full of targets, brrrrrrrrr

potent echo
#

How consistent is EE and ciag during SG?

rigid sky
#

Feels very consistent

#

EE is great on gunker

#

It's at least good on practically all psyker builds imo

#

Swiss cheese health damage avoidance model innit bruv

dense tapir
#

It's me or disrupt destiny is not working properly ?

rigid sky
#

You are still getting the benefit

strong gulch
#

If you mean DD stacks disappearing from the buff icons, there's a visual bug with it. It is working fine.

potent echo
dense tapir
#

Okay, good to know

rigid sky
#

You just can't see the stack

rigid sky
#

You don't run the standard build with it iirc

#

Haven't tried

potent echo
#

Shield is nice where you just line up your surgicals and click heads, shield also negates the suppression too

hearty dagger
#

Is there any really cluttered psyker chestpiece?

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Like a whole bunch of stuff on it

lyric burrow
#

i dont think revo has many strong blessings to replace them with

bold cape
#

just did my first damnation maelstrom and good lord
it was special waves with special>monsters
and we had like 2 plague ogryns, a chaos spawn and a daemonhost all at the same time

lyric burrow
#

monstrous specials is a toss up between nothing happening really and that

rigid sky
lyric burrow
#

oh i see

rigid sky
#

For blessings definitely go S/HC

lyric burrow
#

i think i end up running the same build for every gun with psyker honestly but you could probably make some tweaks

#

although depends what build you run normally

potent echo
#

It's either shield or SG

#

I bring a gun to my EP smite build but I don't think that makes it a gunker build KEKW_ogryn

lyric burrow
#

Assail/Scriers/DD and p much full right side has never failed me

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i honestly forget to even pop scriers most games cause the base build without scriers buffs is still so insane

potent echo
#

DD good

#

||nerfs incoming||

lyric burrow
#

i honestly think i use scriers like once every 10 games

bold cape
lyric burrow
potent echo
#

Ehhh I'll hate it

#

Nerfing psykers all day but no new staff Hestia_WTF

lyric burrow
#

i do want psyker to get attack speed

#

somewhere

#

probably not in DD

potent echo
#

True

atomic walrus
#

Is Assail still strong? Coming back after a few months.

lyric burrow
#

assail is busted ye

potent echo
#

Assail still strong

bold cape
#

still not sure whether or not i wanna use assail on gunker
psykinetics aura is just great

lyric burrow
#

i personally would as its generally my only means of horde clear

atomic walrus
#

Duelling sword and Purgatus staff too or any other weapon?

lyric burrow
#

unless your taking illisi with a gun or something

#

dclaw

potent echo
#

Those are good

lyric burrow
#

duelling sword 4 is probably our best melee

#

and yeah purg is still fine

atomic walrus
#

Time to role for some with my gold

#

Anyone have a dual word and staff with good stats to role for?

potent echo
#

Check the pins for the psyker Atheneum guide

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It has a list of each weapon and optimal perks blessings

rigid sky
#

The Holy trinity of melee weapons is DS4, Deimos, Illisi

#

Take the Atheneum with a little salt though, I don't care what anybody says but damage is not a dumpstat in Blaze trauma

#

It's secondary maybe but it is not full-on dump

#

It definitely should be prioritised over warp resistance

bold cape
#

so according to the atheneum i should be putting maniac/unyielding on my ds4 and flak/unyielding on my columnus
wanted to get opinions here tho cause im paranoid of the lock system and making a choice ill regret lmao

lyric burrow
#

Columnus is fine dont need maniac on ds4 imo

atomic walrus
lyric burrow
#

You can one shot muties without it and i dont think muties are enough of a threat to take a perk for

#

Ragers also die p easy without

bold cape
#

what would you take in spot of it? also wondering if i should even take unyielding on it cause i use the columnus for bosses

lyric burrow
#

I like flak unyielding

#

Maniac unyielding is still fine keep in mind

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I just value maniac less

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On ds4

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Id imagine elites is good too although id need to check BPs

rigid sky
#

I like carapace

#

It's the only thing my DS4 is absolutely needed for

bold cape
rigid sky
#

Maniac tbh I think

#

Can't remember

#

My DS4 is only for my gunker

#

It clears trash with no help

bold cape
#

i could also replace riposte or rampage with uncanny strike but ofc id have to drop one of the perks

rigid sky
#

Uncanny is essential

bold cape
#

yea ive no idea what to do then lmao

#

maybe i replace rampage with uncanny and only change 1 perk?

atomic walrus
#

What's the best way to get the blessing you want?

rich spindle
#

keep pulling the slot machine lever

tired estuary
#

ds4 can live without 2 optimal perks

tired estuary
bold cape
atomic walrus
rich spindle
#

id replace poxwalkers with carapace

tired estuary
#

yeah poxwalkers perk is assssssss

bold cape
#

and im assuming ditch rampage over riposte for uncanny?

atomic walrus
rich spindle
#

if you're gonna use it as a staff backup to poke crushers in the head I'd get rid of rampage

bold cape
#

im using it as a primary on my gunker build

rich spindle
#

rampage is for when you're using it to spam lights into hordes

#

then I would keep rampage

bold cape
#

in that case i could replace riposte and only 1 perk, or both perks

upper sun
rich spindle
#

for a gunker build I would change pox -> carapace and change ripose -> uncanny

rigid sky
#

It's for LMB spamming hordes, and heavying elites and Mutants too, for gunker

#

Like, gunker dps vs Crushers with a DS4 is fucking nuts

#

And I think it's strong enough vs Carapace to be worth headpoking Maulers too

rich spindle
#

yeah I always do I assumed the headshot is way better with all the finesse boosts

bold cape
#

alr sweet, thanks yall
one more thing sorry, are these blessings good enough for me to change both these perks to unyielding/flak?

rich spindle
#

yeah

bold cape
#

legend

#

these might not be perfect but after all the unlucky rng ive gotten recently, ill take it

rich spindle
#

yeah the gain you'll see with "perfect" stuff from what u have is pretty small

#

its mostly for peoples OCD

atomic walrus
#

Does any weapons share blessing they can get? Or do you just need to be lucky for one dual blade to come up in a shop with the blessing you want?

bold cape
#

yea most of my gear in vt2 is like ~2% off from the highest

rich spindle
#

weapons will share blessings with all the Mk types

cosmic sigil
rich spindle
#

staffs dont share

bold cape
#

oh yeah i wanted to ask if this was good or not, got this a while back

#

ive no idea whats good for staffs, but i might make a build with this if i get a good force sword

atomic walrus
upper sun
#

damage charge rate and quell for void

atomic walrus
#

It has a list of what starts you want high on all the weapons.

upper sun
#

blast radius is super dumpy warp res kinda

rich spindle
#

honestly I think 66 damage is fine

plucky flax
#

It's poop if it's not 78%+

rich spindle
#

BP calculator says you're missing out on 30 damage on a crusher headshot

#

out of 3600 health

upper sun
#

There are other people on the team you know

#

you could be 30 damage away from killing all sorts of enemies that your team already hit

#

like my zealots hammer is perfect aside from unyielding 3

#

someone triggered a dh when i was like half a room away i could only get one shot in before they died

#

the DH got to like once milimeter of health before it killed him 😭

rich spindle
#

obviously even 30 extra damage is good but I think leaving an enemy with 30 health is exceedingly rare

upper sun
#

i carry that teammates death withme whereever i go πŸ₯Ή

rich spindle
#

it was your fault for not being addicted to the slot machine enough...

upper sun
#

so tru so tru

paper lily
#

Bp calc wont account for talent points

rich spindle
bold cape
stark notch
rich spindle
#

I like flurry and transfer peril

mental rock
#

Surge staff doesn't get transfer peril...

rich spindle
#

oh I didnt see it was just using the voidstrike skin

bold cape
quartz barn
#

Its such a minor change but tuning the look of your gear is fun

#

Also helps with the fomo 2 week shop rotation mindset

bold cape
#

customization and fashion is my favorite part about most games like this

quartz barn
#

I mean look at how often people ask about the shop refresh in general

bold cape
#

tho i wish there were more non-paid cosmetics

lethal lagoon
#

I run carpace unyielding for EP smite

#

BPs aren't as important cause it's just a tool to do boss, crusher, and Og damage.

#

And get EP stacks going if you run out

bold cape
#

and that color schemes could be applied to any weapon, not just one you bought it for

quartz barn
#

True but free cosm needs to be offset by influx of players or steady income from player retention

lethal lagoon
#

I would say there's a huge crossover between modders and cosmetic purchasers

quartz barn
#

Also apparently every shader is its own model in the code

bold cape
#

i spent more than id like to admit in this event

lethal lagoon
quartz barn
#

Hence why there are little to no shaders for sale

#

Cant confirm this tho

bold cape
#

black greatcoats do something for me

lethal lagoon
#

Anything that makes me feel like a character in One piece draped over my shoulders get's a plus for me

bold cape
#

i can’t decide which set i want for ogryn tho
i decided to get neither for zealot cause the flesh wound penance outfit is peak

lethal lagoon
#

The shirtless set was enough for me, don't think I'll buy anything for Og again.

#

My usual

bold cape
#

wish shirtless was just a toggle
like in for the drip mod

lethal lagoon
#

yeah... I hope they just impliment it already.

bold cape
#

got these cool tattoos and can’t even see em

lethal lagoon
#

Right? I'm betting it's a GW thing

#

Cause they clearly meant for more shirtless stuff.

#

It's no concidence only Ogryn get's shirtless stuff.

bold cape
#

i understand why it is how it is but i wish gw was less strict

quartz barn
#

No its probably tied to player model

#

Ogryn only has 1, so you get 1 set

#

Other characters have male and female, so will take twice as much time to make

#

But you only pay once

lethal lagoon
#

Yeah, they have a history of being lazy with the gendered armor.

quartz barn
#

Its just a profit thing

bold cape
#

shirtless models exist in the game tho
they should just be owned by default
like equipped as nothing

lethal lagoon
#

I mean, the cosmetics have to be marginal compared to game sales and game pass money at this point

quartz barn
#

Or available hours per set

bold cape
#

they were a thing as a bug for a while but it was removed for some ungodly reason

lethal lagoon
#

NGL, now that I think about it, every other player being shritless would get annoying fast.

#

I mean at 1500 hours I'm not exactly "immersed" but it would start to border on silly.

quartz barn
#

Isnt the shirtless set also the same for every class but ogryn

bold cape
#

going with immersion over content/gameplay is a route i personally disagree with
at least in a game like this

quartz barn
#

In a game like this immersion = gameplay

lethal lagoon
#

I mean taken to the extreme, what if we had fortnite Nicki Manji in the game.

bold cape
#

in a game that’s meant to be played for hundreds of matches over and over, that sort of thing should take a backseat
but that’s my personal opinion

lethal lagoon
#

So taking a step back, if every game was 4 naked rejects, it'd be funny at first but then just kind of weird.

tired estuary
#

if fatshark cared about my immersion they'd bring back Big Beta Helm

bold cape
#

what with the crackhead faces and personalities, shirtless wouldn’t be all that jarring

#

id also like to see faces that aren’t so fucked as well personally

#

and hairstyles

tired estuary
#

I want even more fucked up faces and hairstyles

bold cape
#

i just want a decent looking female character

tired estuary
#

I want faces indistinguishable from a plogryn's asshole

bold cape
#

i want the ability to choose between the two Sad_ATWE

#

my male characters look sick

#

also is stam regen not the pick for curios on psyker? i was reading the atheneum and it advised against it
im just used to running 3 stam regens on everything

tired estuary
#

psyker already has good stamina regen

spice veldt
#

stamina is not particularly a concern for psyker since kinetic deflection is typically almost always taken

#

and once the worry of being guardbroken is gone, you don't have any reason to care about your stamina besides having a non-zero amount of stamina

#

which is not problematic for psyker who has a regen delay of 0.5 seconds

rigid sky
#

Stamina is for combat blade 6 push attack spamming

#

Actual stamina is more valuable than stamina regen for us

#

Since it affects Kinetic deflection

#

But it's not really super necessary

bold cape
#

i see, im assuming a +3 stam is really good on psyker

rigid sky
#

I like having one +3 stamina

spice veldt
#

if you're running kinetic deflection, then i wouldn't take it

rigid sky
#

Other people say it's excessive

bold cape
#

im running one stam, one hp one toughness rn

rigid sky
#

It makes tanking monstrosities more manageable

patent wing
#

+3 stam is really nice on mk6

rigid sky
#

But that's an edge case

spice veldt
#

the only boss that needs it is the dh though

rigid sky
#

Yeah, Mark 6 knife puts you in a weird meta

patent wing
#

gettin cornered by horde and you can still manage to survive when 90% peril and scream on cooldown

bold cape
#

what perks do yall run on your curios?

lethal lagoon
#

Combat ability regen, toughness regen, HP toughness, sniper DR

#

I'm thinking of dropping regen for some gunner DR, they've been a little mean to me lately.

#

Probably just my brain cells dying from EP smite

bold cape
#

combat ability regen doesn’t sound like it’d do a lot with scriers at 25 seconds
especially while using psykinetics aura

lethal lagoon
#

Depends. I've definitely had my CD at 2 seconds and wished it was 0.

#

You can't be too mathmatical about CDR, because we don't use CDs in a mathmatical way

cosmic sigil
#

the ogrynd commences

bold cape
#

i decided to level another one for shits and giggles to try and get uncanny 4 for that other ds4 earlier but i ended up with this
wondering if i should be using this one instead now

tired estuary
#

thats p nice

bold cape
#

wondering what perks i wanna put on it, carapace probably
but the second im not sure

rigid sky
#

You could keep it like that and see what you wanna change later tbh

#

Shred is decent but not my favourite, I much prefer riposte

#

Flak is ok but not ideal again

tired estuary
#

aside from checking pinned guide you should test BPs in meat grinder

rigid sky
#

See if you are oneshotting Mutants with whatever your build ends up being

#

If you are then Flak is acceptable

#

I wish the grinder would show overkill

#

And allow you to stack DD

bold cape
#

yea imma run some games tmrw
in the grinder im 2 shotting crushers without DD so thats pretty sweet

bold cape
hearty oak
#

Why cant reed barrels count as barrel kills πŸ˜”

bold cape
#

after ~100 hours im just now getting the first barrel penance

jovial juniper
#

After proper testing (1 game lmao) the Laspistol shove is nothing like the sword one, since it's AoE and doesn't throw people on the ground

#

Feels nice though

long wharf
#

You won't be one-shotting mutants with a ds4 on damnation without +maniac perk and critting

patent wing
spice veldt
#

ds4 can hit a oneshot on mutant w/o maniac or crit with DD stacks, peril for warp rider, and uncanny stacked

shy pewter
stiff falcon
#

Stamina, ordo, combat ability

shy pewter
#

I might have to try 12% combat ability with EP smite, see if it makes a noticeable improvement

quartz barn
#

Gonna be honest i dont think it matters

patent wing
#

maybe i drop gunner or sniper res for 3x stam regen

quartz barn
#

As long as you keep chaining ep stacks youre fine, the dip is when you run out and smite wont kill any more

patent wing
#

flamer res is the best perk ingame change my mind

quartz barn
#

Pro tip, you can jump slide into flamers and not get hit

#

They always aim at the ground, so you can jump over that, causing them to aim up

#

Then you slide under it, and since the fire never really touches you you dont get staggered by toughness breaking

#

Regardless tho, most flamer dmg comes from their kick staregryn

patent wing
#

nah i have problems when there are so many enemies that i cant even see them

#

or when i get grabbed

bold cape
#

ive never had problems with flamers or bombers and i dont think taking res curios would even help, but that’s just me

shy pewter
bold cape
shy pewter
#

Unless they patched it and I didn't hear about it

bold cape
#

the real issue with flamers is that they insta strip your toughness and res doesn’t really help w that

upper sun
#

what does stopping power actually do on guns? is it just stagger limit or does it effect damage?

spice veldt
#

armour damage modifiers and stagger yeah

bold cape
shy pewter
spice veldt
#

at least for all human guns that have it, they all modify armour damage modifiers

upper sun
#

why dont they call it ADM then

#

fucking hell

spice veldt
#

but i don't know if stopping power on ogryn weapons is only stagger

#

you can press v and hover over the stat card to see what it exactly does

upper sun
#

i know its just a hassle doing that for every fucking weapon

#

hmmm gotta press v on 5 different weapons to know if 10% of this stat effects 40% or .5% in game on a weapon

spice veldt
#

if it's just knowing what a stat modifier does, just do it once for a weapon and you'll know what it affects

upper sun
#

lmme just do a linear regression and cross multiply to figure out if this weapon is usable or not staregryn

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i know charge rates for surge by heart

spice veldt
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it affect damage = good is higher blah blah

upper sun
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but on random weapons i dont play much it gets a bit annoying

paper ember
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Deimos or Duellist MKIV

spice veldt
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deimos

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oh wait

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i have dyslexia

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pick whatever you like

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both are good

upper sun
spice veldt
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i personally have a preference for the duelling sword mk4 since i easily hit breakpoints with either heavy with DD up

upper sun
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the most unrealistic BP for deimos is tripple 80

spice veldt
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i keep forgetting that the deimos and the ds4 are both mark 4s

upper sun
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you can one shot a mutie on H2 without maniac

paper ember
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I thought about Deimos stagger

upper sun
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there is no BP for H2 stagger

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everything except bosses falls on weakpoint

long wharf
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ds4 also has better mobility

upper sun
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LETS FUCKING GOOOO

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time to ruin it for everyone with thunderhammer

stiff falcon
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Mmt saved

patent wing
lethal swan
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Any fun builds to knock out the "Disrupt Destiny for 1800 seconds" penance?

quartz gale
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@lethal swan assail and void strike staff your easiest bet and the 25 stack talent is a trap go for 10 seconds duration at 15 stack

lethal swan
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Sounds good, thanks!

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the thing where you get 2 stacks on a finesse kill, does that only apply on the highlighted units?

quartz gale
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Correct

lethal swan
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got it

quartz gale
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Gunker works fine but you contend for ammo whereas void strike can snipe and is infinite ammo, just my 2 cents

lethal swan
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I wonder, is the UI bugged at all when it comes to displaying the stacks? I swear I was doing a match last night where I physically couldn't see any of the stacks building up but somehow gained like 200 seconds of it

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yeah Gunker works pretty well for it

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with the columnus

quartz gale
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Depends on the amount of buffs you have sometimes it can be off screen if you don't have mods to lengthen the buff bar

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And if you do have the mods, you can adjust what you see in the area accordingly

lethal swan
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got it haha

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sounds good

quartz gale
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Your best bet to do that penance is to just grind it out and not think about it and go for the highlighted enemies as much as you can

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Also capitalize on defense areas and objectives and don't stall out but those are great places to get those extra seconds

hearty dagger
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What is the tabletop equivalent of Disrupt Destiny?

hearty oak
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Two points for whatever you want

lethal swan
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let me save that

rigid sky
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Or you can do the pure gunker build which is fun as fuck too

hearty oak
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Yeah you can literally do whatever

lethal swan
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yeah I've done the disrupt destiny build

hearty oak
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Its not hard to upkeep the stacks

lethal swan
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yeah

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how come the highlighted target jumps targets sometimes? or am I seeing things

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I could have sworn I'd see someone highlighted

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and then without them dying it switches

hearty oak
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DD is funny.

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Some say quirky

spice veldt
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the rules i know of is that it switches after some time or if you look away from them for a while

rigid sky
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Remember that you don't need to do it all in one run too

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It's a cumulative penance

lethal swan
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yeah

rigid sky
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So if you enjoy DD you will get it automatically eventually

lethal swan
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I like DD, it's fun lol

rigid sky
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Just see it as the opportunity to try the best keystone in the game :)

lethal swan
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its like playing focus fire veteran only I don't have control over it

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πŸ˜‚

rigid sky
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Yeah, the power is addictive

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That combined with MF

lethal swan
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I actually got a ton of stacks while using the dueling sword

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ironically

rigid sky
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Because the damage spike is crazy and dependent on crits and weakspots

lethal swan
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because i kept stabbing the highlighted target in the head and getting the double stacks lol

rigid sky
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Duelling Sword is a great weapon for it

lethal swan
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yeee

rigid sky
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DD and SG make it good at hordeclear

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Which is usually its one weakness

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And then it absolutely murders all elites on top of that from rager to crusher

lethal swan
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yeah i noticed like