psyker-class

[upper sun]

wow imagine playing the game when you can talk about ti

[potent echo]

It's so funny when people post scoreboards as evidence

[upper sun]

since agent is on vacation ill say it for him

[marble crater]

Arguing for or against using it?

[upper sun]

Top 1% sedation zero attacks blocked pls buff trauma

[wind spruce]

For it being the worst talent in the entire game

[paper lily]

new live event might not be it

[upper sun]

theres a new event?

[marble crater]

Ah good

[paper lily]

unlucky for some is clearly the worst psyker talent

[wind spruce]

I'd rather take unlucky for some

[potent echo]

How about anticipation

[wind spruce]

I'm running anticipation rn

Lmao

[paper lily]

i like anticipation

[upper sun]

bruh whats with all the talents in the game that rely on other players being downed

[potent echo]

Maybe if you are better you don't need it

[wind spruce]

+50% immunity frames on dodge

I'll take it when I'm being a crackhead melee psyker

[grizzled iris]

I never said stamina is bad. If that is what you got out of the argument then you didn't read what I said

[potent echo]

Didn't they show that this didn't work

Back when crab was still around and active

[wind spruce]

I thought that part worked

[grizzled iris]

It doesn't work sadly

[wind spruce]

But it didn't increase the length of ur dodge

[potent echo]

I think crab or arco tested it against crushers with no difference

[grizzled iris]

Doesn't increase length of the dodge or the window of the dodge being active

[potent echo]

With or without the talent

[paper lily]

in code it does increase the dodge window

the amount is small

it does not work vs ranged attacks

[spice veldt]

i was running anticipation for a while but then i got traumatized by the entire team experiencing a heart attack by the beginning carnival event by ragers + gunners and consequently all the aggro being dumped onto me so now i'm back to EE

[grizzled iris]

Hello arco, long time no see

[spice veldt]

hi

[grizzled iris]

How ya been?

[spice veldt]

it's been fine
i'm back to pysker for now for assail degeneracy

[potent echo]

I remember someone testing you can dodge in place vs crushers overhead, but I can't really replicate it myself in the psyk. Sometimes it does work in-game though

[spice veldt]

prob standing too close

this is what crab does https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/Z7X6HSRl3uuOQ/d1337Vg9wKE5?invite=cr-MSxxbFAsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/eQljLl

you can dodge with this much space

[lyric burrow]

simply run both

[spice veldt]

i need that 4x toughness

[potent echo]

Does proximity matter

[spice veldt]

ye

[wind spruce]

i clipped that too short sorry
https://outplayed.tv/media/WJnbxP

[spice veldt]

dodges against melee attacks is basically i-frames + making sure you're not too close to an enemy

[potent echo]

Howmst this magical hitboxes

[rich spindle]

swear ive dodged in place up against a wall to avoid crusher overheads multiple times recently

[potent echo]

Does this mean I start running anticipation

[potent echo]

#psyker-class message

[spice veldt]

my argument for it over EE is that melee enemies are going to be the main threat anyways, and if you're on the right side you're probably using assail as well
its value is low but still appreciable (assuming it works properly)

[potent echo]

But most horde attacks are undodgable too

[spice veldt]

nah they are but they tend to have a lot of running attacks that make them move closer to you

[potent echo]

Although it works against ragers now

[untold niche]

ther e would be a day where you become a dad bro too

[spice veldt]

mainly against crushers/maulers if your brain has a lapse in judgement and forgets to spam the dodge key

[wind spruce]

Just run RHS without assail and then you have points for everything

[spice veldt]

i'm too much of a degenerate to not fully spec into assail

[potent echo]

I take EE on my assail builds but I never noticed it's effects

Probably time to go anti

[wind spruce]

It's hard to feel EE much of the time

[potent echo]

Oh nvm my builds go middle aura

I'm dummy

[spice veldt]

EE is nice for the exceedingly niche scenario where you're surrounded by ranged enemies and are fighting melee enemies at the same time

[lethal lagoon]

If I go by feel, EE literally doesn't exist.

[potent echo]

EE good for purga

That's mostly it

Maybe on a columnus too

[spice veldt]

e.g., that one time where my team suddenly died on carnival's first event and 10 gunners and 10 ragers went for my ass in the open arena and i didn't know where to hide

[untold niche]

even on column?

[lethal lagoon]

Mettle, so yeah.

[rich spindle]

continue purg rmb on horde while eating gunner fire 🧠

[paper lily]

@untold niche nah def not, already old enough def not having kids ahah

[potent echo]

Recon headhunter psyker

[spice veldt]

the mfing game didn't spawn any trash for me to regen toughness on

[wind spruce]

my fav column/DS build

[untold niche]

lifer always bring suiraprises

[wind spruce]

or u can switch to seers presence with TDR instead of crit and anticipation

[lethal lagoon]

Plus like the only time I NEED EE is when I need to reload

[grizzled iris]

Could you answer my DM real quick

[lethal lagoon]

[potent echo]

Funny how the temphp problem comes back in a different way

[untold niche]

reload in cover like a true larper wtf are u doing man

\

[paper lily]

this was me btw

[potent echo]

You were the crusher?

[paper lily]

[lethal lagoon]

That feels like poor sportsmanship

And I mean I do

But still

[potent echo]

Never pull out your ranged as zealot

[lethal lagoon]

Every situation I NEED EE, I can't proc it for one reason or another

[potent echo]

Someone dogged far away ? Run there slowly

[potent echo]

It's very inconsistent vs shotgunners

[untold niche]

have you seen in ds3 where people becamse the boss using cheats

in onlinea

[lethal lagoon]

You mean fun hackers?

[potent echo]

You can become the boss? Lmao

[lethal lagoon]

Not legally

Oh well I mean there is this one DLC boss in ds3 where you can queue in as the boss

That shit was cool, I wish they kept it in elden ring

Esp as elden was so much more popular, it would have been constant queues

[rigid sky]

They had that in demons souls too

The Old Monk of the Tower of Latria

Except that assholes would just take Wrath of God or something and nuke you as soon as you enter the boss door before you regain control of your character

[potent echo]

Ah wrath of god

Ds1 pvp days

[grizzled iris]

"Cough" they had it in ds2 as well

[lethal lagoon]

Oh? I wasn't aware there was a souls-like with that mechanic in it.

[grizzled iris]

Ds2 the souls like that even dared to use the entire name as well

[lethal lagoon]

Low-key I don't get how ds2 didn't catch a lawsuit. From Software even played into and just went straight to 3.

Super weird.

[grizzled iris]

Indeed, I bought ds2 as my first souls game. Thinking it was the succesor to ds1 but I was scammed

[potent echo]

What

[lethal lagoon]

Need to get a class action lawsuit going for people like us, smh

[potent echo]

I liked ds2 for what it was

Powerstance

[lethal lagoon]

A pretty decent souls-like?

[potent echo]

Yea

Cool new ideas

Like adaptability

[supple dock]

DS2 had the coolest dragon transformation

[potent echo]

Or whatever it was called

[lethal lagoon]

Infinite healing items

[grizzled iris]

HERESY!
(Me too, but we aren't allowed to say that out loud. Keep it down.)

[potent echo]

I also like the stagger more than

Oh you get arbitrary 2 lights before they can dodge

That was ds3

[lethal lagoon]

Bonefire acestic was super cool too, I love when souls-likes actually innovate

[grizzled iris]

Ah yes, the black gulch farm skip.

[lethal lagoon]

It is a JRPG after all, it makes sense it has grinding mechanics

Oh I never looked up exploits

I just grinded those stone statue things for a while and then used the ascetic to make em respawn.

And I think I used it to duplicate a spell

[potent echo]

Can I say elden ring bad in here

[lethal lagoon]

No

[potent echo]

[lethal lagoon]

Strictly illegal

[grizzled iris]

You either gather all lord souls to go to drangleic or you farm 1 million soul memory. So people would farm the rotten with astetics over and over instead.

[potent echo]

Where can I find my little insouls ER hate group

[upper sun]

no

[lethal lagoon]

Find one of those videos that makes fun of Elden Ring terrible takes, find the creator who gave the terrible take, and then join their discord.

[grizzled iris]

Elden Bling without the Ring

[potent echo]

I'm gonna do something very brave like not buying the DLC

[lethal lagoon]

Then you'll see what other people who hate elden ring are like and change your opinion based on their stupidity alone.

[lethal lagoon]

[quartz barn]

I do the opposite and get soulslikes that people who played elden ring claim are bad

[lethal lagoon]

On that note, I loved hellpoint

They had a bonefire ascetic as well

[quartz barn]

Hellpoint is great

[lethal lagoon]

I played dual mage hands

It was funny as fuck lmao

[quartz barn]

Space is scuffed tho

But thats why that game is fun

[lethal lagoon]

You know, now that all the bugs are fixed(?) I might go back and replay it.

[quartz barn]

Literally 100% it in 2 days lmao

[lethal lagoon]

Give me a good soulslike I probably haven't played before

[quartz barn]

Still funny that the spacesuit is found out in space behind a illusory wall

[lethal lagoon]

[quartz barn]

Pascal's wager

Its a scuffed mobile thats ported to pc

[lethal lagoon]

Will check out. The actual Pascal's Wager is super cringe though.

[quartz barn]

Story is non existant but gameplay with the insanity mechanic is actually really good

Mfw you play as the girl with the gun and get invaded by the dude that just blocks all your shots

Unironically have to parry him 8-10 times to kill him lmao

[untold niche]

nioh 2 very bad

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

gui can also tell you how bad good it is

[quartz barn]

Better example would be lords of the fallen 2

[lethal lagoon]

Technically there is no 2

[quartz barn]

Nice reflection nerf, still oneshots through walls

But if you're smart you just block it

[late sapphire]

All of the soulslike players i know dislike elden ring

lords of the fallen is so bad i can't even play it 😢

[quartz barn]

And if you're as smart as me you onehit yourself with it while invading

They optimised performance a while ago?

One of the first things they did after launch

[late sapphire]

You mean it isn't completely dogshit anymore?

[quartz barn]

Tbh it wasnt bad at launch either

It was just the initial load that was heavy

Not unlike darktide xd

[late sapphire]

Yeah nah it was that bad

[quartz barn]

I guess you have amd?

I remember there being a big difference in performance between nvidia and amd

[late sapphire]

Nah it's intel & nvidia but all last gen

[upper sun]

heresy scab maelstrom is so chill

everything dies so quickly

[upper sun]

Hmmm today i will put up my best maelstrom... whats the best time for it? 3PM on a monday

[hollow current]

Are you questioning engorged guppie’s wisdom?

[marble crater]

It's just random, right?

Or on a fixed rotation, like they are not picking it manually every couple of days, surely

[upper sun]

that was stupidly easily

we cheesed the fuck out of it with two thunderhammers

[marble crater]

Good for you for picking the right build

[quartz barn]

Lets go someone made a mod that shows accurate penance progress

Called "show current penance stats"

[upper sun]

already finished my penances

[quartz barn]

Same but only on psyk

[upper sun]

i swear to god if they add new shit and i have to grind more im gonna cry

[marble crater]

What's wrong with the penance progress we have?

[upper sun]

it moves in ticks and its a bit slowed for some stuff

[quartz barn]

Only shows the highest ypuve gotten

[mental rock]

Jokes on you they will just make the current ones easier so you feel worse xd

[upper sun]

ah it shows current progression in game tho

[marble crater]

Ah you mean for things that need you to kill X amount of enemies in Y time?

[quartz barn]

So if you got 10 mission without going down it will stay on 10 if you do end up going down

[upper sun]

i did all the easy ones

[quartz barn]

Making it impossible to track your new/current progress

[upper sun]

for vet i just have weapon spec
for ogryn i have taunt+gone bowlling+grenade box
and for zealot i have just a flesh wound

i need someone to carry me for gone bowlling tho that shit is undoable

[marble crater]

Just charge a horde or something

[upper sun]

I did 😭

max i got was 49

[marble crater]

Charge better

[upper sun]

nothing spawns anymore how am i supposed to get it

[marble crater]

I did it in one of the long subway tunnels

[jovial juniper]

The Vigil Station Oblivium on my terminal:

[quartz barn]

I did it in the ascender mission

Got it in the first hallway xd

[dull osprey]

Dude ogryn charge to 60 is impossible for real

[hearty oak]

What you can do with someone else is have a knife zealot just run through the map on an High intensity (doesnt need to be HISTG) and have them run through aggroing everything they can while you find a tight af corner and just hold a shield down till you know there is more than sixty enemies

Can do it at the start of consignment yard.

[upper sun]

yeah

like i said if i still needed that i would have to ask someone for help

i only got shocking stuff

from someone helping me

[supple sedge]

Go high difficulties, might take a bit but it possible

[dull osprey]

I true solo auric maelstrom what else is higher than that

[upper sun]

i tried shocking stuff like 5 times

[supple sedge]

Try some more

[dull osprey]

XD

[upper sun]

relay station first event didnt even work

i got it on malice while agent was watching football afk and i was grinding penances

hes a real1 fr fr no cap

[dull osprey]

Waiting for a melee only maelstrom to give it a try.

[quartz barn]

I teamed with a vet with plasma

Rush towards them as they unload on group of elites

Got abil back instantly and charged down a random hallway

Took 2 min after loading in

[marble crater]

You can do that one also with a yellow stim on your own now

[upper sun]

yeah thats how i did it

[cinder moon]

I got that bull charge penance literally the first day the penance update dropped, just ran into a group of enemies at the start of silo cluster, dropped a nuke, rushed back

[upper sun]

i love penances that make you waste resources

[cinder moon]

yeah

nbd tho in that case since I nuked like 6 crushers

[upper sun]

6=/=25 enemies!!!!

still wasted

[cinder moon]

lol

still on 14/25 for that stupid penance

[upper sun]

i can teach you the way....

[cinder moon]

but then again I haven’t played in like a week

[upper sun]

mercantile HL-70something

start has a big hoard

drop a nuke then leave

[cinder moon]

lol

[upper sun]

least toxic way to do the penance

what would you rather have an ogryn that takes every grenade and wastes it or one that wastes one grenade and leaves?

[cinder moon]

I’ve gotten most of my progress on it legit since I only play aurics

just saving it for situations where even bullrush won’t clean em all out

[upper sun]

yeah thatll take too long

[cinder moon]

I’m not in a rush anymore

heavy hitter taking forever anyway

[upper sun]

id rather just bitch about heavy hitter in the forum

[cinder moon]

HH happens naturally with the shield

[upper sun]

most hoards are 90% done by the time you get to 5 stacks

they need to reduce heavy hitter like FNP so you only need like 3 stacks for it to progress

[cinder moon]

plenty to kill in hi int/stg aurics

[upper sun]

idk man even there many games you dont get full hoards

just clumps of infected

[cinder moon]

certain missions are better for it than others. commsplex in the desert, for example

[upper sun]

comsplex 😍 for any elite kill penances

[hearty oak]

I had an idea for Scriers and DD : What if they were combined and acted like the veterans exe stance. Except the targets are more plentiful but do not replenish. The targets you kill will offset peril generation for 1 second and of course will reward the bonus you get at the end of scriers

[cinder moon]

rando sparkead said I was “best ogryn in the sector” after one commsplex mission

saved them from being cornered in an elevator by a crusher

[zinc phoenix]

can you youths tell me wtf is going on with this declloation crusade?

the heck are the event tiers and how do i see any of it?

[lone ravine]

Hold tab press e

Each tier is X number of weak point kills

[long wharf]

Heavy hitter is easy with a group willing to wait before extracting on a certain map

The one with the plague vault

[zinc phoenix]

ok

i will go back to ignoring it

thanks guys

[lone ravine]

[zinc phoenix]

apparently i got htem all already

[lone ravine]

Well yea it counts the whole teams weak point kills

[marble crater]

Heavy Hitter is easy if you just play a heavy hitter build normally

[lone ravine]

I got heavy hitter just playing my tauntgryn build because I came back to the game and completely ignored penances at first

[rigid sky]

No thank you

Don't go ruining my beautiful DD and my beautiful SG like that

[vestal fulcrum]

I want to buy this

It doesn't have 5 dodges, but there's a point of no return in my mind once you dedicate yourself to ||being|| a meme

[hasty breach]

wow

does it have 1 dodge even?

[marble crater]

It turns you into a statue

[hasty breach]

thats basically a cane

LOL it has precogn on it

[vestal fulcrum]

It even has 4!

[hasty breach]

dodge build

PSYKERS, did you or did you not call a warp storm to summon--the horror--a veteran named GERALT-OF-CADIA onto my Mourningstar

[zinc phoenix]

had a team that managed to kill themselves one by one in the arena fight at carnival

ive never seen someone die there before

didnt even think it was possible

you literally just stand still and kill everything

[potent echo]

arena too boring, gotta make things harder

[zinc phoenix]

but one idiot ran out and died, another went and died in fire to try and save him, then third did same

i was like guys its a heresy mael, this isnt even hard

[wheat tulip]

Why do they have a penance for max warp charges and brain burst when you can only really use it quickly after blowing your ability which means using your warp charges, or by stacking EP charges which also gives you no peril and more damage than full stack warp charges. It makes no sense to take brain burst with warp charges for the purpose of having max charges when using it instead of just using it to get the 75% faster cast time which loses all the charges. You basically have to use the worst combo to get the penance done

[zinc phoenix]

if you leave a mission before you die does it still reset streak?

[potent echo]

Which streak

[zinc phoenix]

the not dying streak

[potent echo]

If you don't die you don't lose it

[zinc phoenix]

ok, i will leave missions more often til i clear it then

[restive ice]

smells like bitch in here

[zinc phoenix]

i guess you did just join

[quartz barn]

It resets whenever you die

Main threat is being launched of the map by bursters

[upper sun]

lmao

[wheat tulip]

main threat is joining into a horde of elites with everyone else already dead, which happens far too often for my liking

[quartz barn]

No point in staying then, because you get no progress when you join mid mission

[upper sun]

worst one was when i joined a game had zero grenades and my last teammate was under 4 crushers and 7 ragers

||it was the first section of ascension riser||

[hearty oak]

Be pretty cool if they were together though so they can open up a keystone for more psyker stuff

[rigid sky]

But I don't want to be limited to taking SG to get DD

[quartz barn]

Weakest part of builds imo

[rigid sky]

What if I want DD with my voidstrike

[quartz barn]

Run with bubble i guess

[rigid sky]

I just get a build that's less fun and shittier than what I have now then

I'd rather they merged warp charges into shriek

Fuck with the boring stuff, not the actually fun keystone

[quartz barn]

New keystone increases the dmg and radius on self explosion

[upper sun]

3d tree update

put a 4th keystone behind them

[jovial juniper]

That would make shriek even stronger

[hearty oak]

extra point into it and you can survive one time but be left at 1 hp

[upper sun]

zealot gets a keystone that makes them deal more damage the further they are from objectives/teammates

[quartz barn]

Wait

[upper sun]

ogryn gets a keystone that makes them take no melee damage but get 7 times the damage from gunners/shooters

[quartz barn]

Self nuke dmg increases dmg based off of current hp

But doesnt kill you

Dmg done heals you

[upper sun]

no make it deal more damage the less HP you have

so we can go WOUNDS

[quartz barn]

No skill build smh

[upper sun]

final boom deals 5k damage

hell yeah

zero skill build

[quartz barn]

Inverse skill ceiling too

[hearty oak]

Zero skill and not worth the effort build, excellent

[quartz barn]

Because you need to be higher lvl to get the keystone, while you mostly blow yourself up at low lvl

Perfect role model build

[hearty oak]

New psykers: I don't know what I'm doing, I just keep blowing up

[marble crater]

How about making the talent tree so you don't get locked out of nodes if you take an ult or aura

[upper sun]

no stop having fun with builds

your options are left right or middle

[rigid sky]

So you can just take the 30 points you like most from a list?

[hearty oak]

Man, why can't we just start from the bottom 😔

And just work our way up

[upper sun]

psyker and zealot should have the vet central node for blitzs

and auras

on top AND ON BOTTOM

[marble crater]

No, I mean like the Zealot and Vet trees

[rigid sky]

Oh, I hate how those are designed

4 point dips

[untold niche]

It's specifically designed as a trade. Notice how only for 2nd life there is an extra node

The other 2 columns only one node

[marble crater]

Yeah sure, but if you pick knives you don't get locked out of any nodes. So for psyker for example you could take assail and still have access to Psykentic's Aura, that's what I mean

[rigid sky]

I like that you have to make this kind of trade tbh

[upper sun]

all blitzs should look like this

blitz sounds fucking stupid whats the plural of blitz @marble crater

[hearty oak]

Blitzes

[upper sun]

blitzen

[hearty oak]

[marble crater]

Part of me doesn't mind, because yeah build diversity, but part of me wants to use assail with Psykentic's Aura

[jovial juniper]

Pathing issue

Got it

[spice veldt]

the problem is that psyker's tree has no where enough nodes to counteract the lower # of permutations from branch locks

[upper sun]

also warp siphon being fat and having too may trash nodes

[marble crater]

Blitze, but that's German

[rigid sky]

Warp Siphon is trash buried in trash

Outside of faster Shriek CD

I see people build smite shield warp Siphon and it just makes me fucking depressed

[marble crater]

You lost me at smite shield

[rigid sky]

Idk bored today

[vestal fulcrum]

But then you’d have mandatory point tax if you wanted to move from middle to either side

[upper sun]

i know more than the devs

i will not subscribe to their architypes

OK

taking bets

what are the chances of me rolling a 7th illisi with executor

[wheat tulip]

Thats a good thing though, max wounds psyker and use yourself like a grenade isnt it like 2.5k damage? You basically solo a crusher/bulwark group. Med stations are just hidden grenade caches

[upper sun]

its more like 400

[wheat tulip]

Nah I was 1 shotting zealots was it nerfed? It was pretty good and I had fun in the psyker VR room

ragers not zealots though i guess they are zealots

[jovial juniper]

Well yeah, ragers are just sick zealots

[hearty oak]

99% of psykers quit before they get to the good node

[patent wing]

suggestions?

[marble crater]

100%

[wheat tulip]

ah so the carapace armor must change the damage

[upper sun]

ripo unstable crit and infected

[marble crater]

[cosmic sigil]

not bad

[upper sun]

i have just discovered that holding charge then ulting doesnt make you charge the shot over again

works with everything

[magic burrow]

Am I the only Psyker that never liked Assail? I think a lot of it is due to sound design. I feel they could make throwing those magic homing icicles sound a lot cooler.

[spice veldt]

i do somewhat dislike that they share the same impact sound with throwing knives

[rigid sky]

Tbh there isn't a thing in this game I don't like I think

[wheat tulip]

I dont like it because it likes 1-2 chaff then disappears for too long smite is simply better

[rigid sky]

Except zealot stun grenades

[spice veldt]

the launch sound is good nuff for me but i don't have any qualms with the sound being changed

[rigid sky]

3 chaff per knife

[upper sun]

smokes?

[rigid sky]

Does a lot of damage with DD

All of my Assail builds are DD builds

[wheat tulip]

nah maybe hits 3 but it kills 1-2 and sometimes it hits one and just weers off and dies

[rigid sky]

Fucking love smokes

[rigid sky]

It's still great value

[spice veldt]

you have to be looking at an enemy and while the shard is within a certain distance of an enemy for it to lock on

[rigid sky]

Since it can be weaved

[upper sun]

were you the vet that made everyone play vent purge in high intensity shocktroop?

[spice veldt]

it's not an auto-aim weapon
it's an aim-assist weapon

[rigid sky]

I use them only with my helbore but maybe lol

Every other blitz needs more uptime to work

Assail can just quickly, cheaply, throw however much hate out you like and then swap

But yeah I didn't like it at first either

All blitzes are good

[wheat tulip]

only thing I really used assail for is a quick peril gain for the damage bonus

[rigid sky]

Even stun grenades, I just dislike them

Oh and bombs away

That one is just shit unmitigated

[wheat tulip]

throw 8 of them into a crowd then start hacking

[spice veldt]

to me, assail really rounds out a trauma + ds4 build
because assail fills in the role of a quick, snappy weapon that deals with enemies that are spread out or grouped up equally well

[upper sun]

if your build looks like this im barreling you

[spice veldt]

it is the closest thing to an infantry gun that we have (among the warp weapon and in terms of damage characteristics)

[lyric burrow]

assail is v nice

[wheat tulip]

It doesnt have the utility of BB or smite though, the ability to just remove elites from across the map or just halt the advance of a dozen of anything is way better than a few ice needles killing shamblers though BB requires the tree being build around it smite always has utility you can just have in your pocket for the 1-2 times things get really bad

its just mediocre damage

which reminds me I should try the double shield BB build

[spice veldt]

if it's killing things across the map, then assail has that up to 50m reliably
assail does not have degenerate amounts of stagger like smite/trauma/crusher/etc., but it is able to stagger all human elites and below reliably
if you're spamming it, i think the damage is fine
if you're comboing it and weaving it with other weapon usage, it gets very good

[rigid sky]

Depends on your ranged weapon

All our blitzes have a place

Assail supports voidstrike as a way to hit moving targets and thin our hordes

[spice veldt]

because remember that it only takes ~0.2s to throw out the first shard and ~0.3s to throw out the second

[patent wing]

EP Assail goated for elite ´gangs

[rigid sky]

And it supports guns via hordeclear and ammo economy

[patent wing]

unless they are ogryns

[spice veldt]

you can throw a shard and swap off to another weapon while the shards are doing their thing

[rigid sky]

And it scales crazy well with DD too

Since the shards can crit and aim for weakspots

They also increment True Aim

And can easily top up DD for you

[patent wing]

i prefer having infinite shards

[rigid sky]

And they are cheap enough to be used in the first little while of SG

[spice veldt]

i consider DD better because it also bumps up the damage on your ranged/melee slots as well

[rigid sky]

I find Assail is the least impressive EP choice

DD boosts Assail and your other shit too

[spice veldt]

e.g., allows ds4 to hit certain oneshots consistently

[lyric burrow]

DD just buffs so much ye

i p much only run it with DD

granted i run assail with p much only guns and single target melee

[rigid sky]

Nobody seems to take DD but it's so fucking good

[lyric burrow]

so its huge value

[spice veldt]

and consistently pushes your ds4 into the 2-shot territory for maulers (non-crit) and crushers (requires 1 crit)

[untold niche]

even before the changes i thought it was worth running at least for voidstrike

[patent wing]

i prefer knife anyway

im a tank with ep assail with the toughness node

[lyric burrow]

i ran DD almost exclusively since p13 came out

its always been p good imo

[rigid sky]

It's much easier now

And less prone to getting fucked over by bad luck or boss overfocus

[near wyvern]

This is the way. If we talking about mk 6.

DD max stack bonus sucks ass but the duration improvement is strong

[upper sun]

max stack? isnt the upgrade regen speed?

[near wyvern]

MB ment DD, edited my comment

[fading depot]

Can't play Maelstroms because I'm trying to get the scripture / grimoire penances 😔

Wish we just had scrips and grims on every map like Vermintide 2

[upper sun]

sedeation speed runs

wait need help

i need to do speed runs for weeklies

[patent wing]

It was during a solo run when I noticed The absurd knife dmg with dd (mk6

[eager token]

the best part of DD is the move speed

[fading depot]

Nah cus I also need 250 aurics played

[eager token]

[upper sun]

yeah im not down for 250 games

[fading depot]

All I play is aurics anyways so it doesnt make a diff

[upper sun]

1 auric 7 sedation per char

[fading depot]

Are you new ?

o are u just saying thats what ur gonna do

[upper sun]

im saying what im gonna do

[jovial juniper]

Speaking of DD

Would it pair well with a bloodthirsty chainsword?

Since crits and all of that

[eager token]

depends what else you’re running tbh

[jovial juniper]

I'm looking for an insight on those critical revs

[mental rock]

No, chain sword Crits are not that great

Only time I would take bloodthirsty is on the mk15 evis and even then it's situational

Maybe illisi too actually

But meh

I'm a DS4 enjoyer

[eager token]

DS4 mobility is too good

[eager token]

ds4 my beloved

[patent wing]

unbuffed wtf

how

[eager token]

i think i have a godroll ds4 but i am a riposte enjoyer

altho i dont think its procing in that clip

idr what the icon looks like

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1203782851250618428/image.png?ex=66558664&is=665434e4&hm=bb29061c7400c94c58d9cc57f0730f66d17c0799faf78a562024993dddb18ac5&

[spice veldt]

mutant-wave mutants have less hp

[wheat tulip]

it proced a few times in the middle

[dusk void]

Just like a wave of hounds have less hp

[dusk void]

I also need 250 aurics

Well, auric heresy because I'm a noob and a sucker at this game

[jovial juniper]

Mfw I get to kill everything on Tertium with the Evis15

[radiant frigate]

rend! tear! haha!

[supple dock]

im awake, I'm awake

[clear bridge]

...Auric Heresy ain't always easy

Don't beat yourself up because you can't beat an Auric Maelstrom 100% of the time

If you're grinding 250 wins you want a good chance of success

Not a coin flip that might rob you of 30 minutes...

[supple dock]

The best way to learn the game is to do difficult missions and get shit on until you don't

But do what's difficult for you

Without impossible

[dusk void]

I have done 57 auric missions already

[supple dock]

That's good! I probably have a few hundred and I still get killed all the time lmao

[dusk void]

At least I got the auric exemplar title

But still, it was hard tho

Auric heresy is sorta my comfort level for this game

[clear bridge]

I found Exemplar wasn't too bad as Ogryn, but Ogryn is both my best class and maybe the strongest

certainly the most stable

Auric Storm Survivor was tough

[dusk void]

I find that I can do aurics with my psyker

[clear bridge]

Yeaaa- me too, but I've only won like one Auric Damnation with my lad

Mostly just as Hurk the Ogryn

[dusk void]

The auric storm survivor title will be my next challenge. I find that I can only do the no ammo pickup with mostly melee enemies maelstrom

[clear bridge]

As Psyker? Probably I'd be the same...

Ehhh idk

[marble crater]

Specials and Hunting grounds isn't too bad either if you are a smite psyker

[clear bridge]

Sometimes you get like- exactly, specialists + hunting grounds

[dusk void]

I heard smite is absolute cheese. Is that true?

[clear bridge]

I bet even with voidstrike + brain burst you could totally rock that difficulty

[marble crater]

What do you mean by that?

[clear bridge]

You'd have to be on point with the headshots

[marble crater]

It's a tool you can use for the right situation

[clear bridge]

...smite is a big very powerful stun, but isn't good enough that I'd call it cheese

To my knowledge you can't even perils using it, but it's just not high damage or 360°

It can't work forever and it doesn't do much damage

But it can do really good work

[dusk void]

On trash hordes and waves of hounds

With venting shriek

[marble crater]

EP Smite with shriek also kills ragers

[grizzled iris]

Hitting them with your melee or staff/gun also kills ragers. But generally faster.

[clear bridge]

Useful not to swap off though!

[supple dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920768195185496064/1243381844242731038/the_power_of_red_stim.mp4?ex=6655e254&is=665490d4&hm=5558bf990e9048a180ede7f4391d91ea6cf4bdd3256699600bee8a04fdc14257&

[eager token]

become an EP smite believer

[patent wing]

become an ep bb blue stim believer

machine gun bb

[jovial juniper]

Become a soulblaze DD Perfectionism yellow stimm addict

[lapis violet]

i'm starting to think that 1. capitalism still exists in the 41st millenium and 2. that the treaty of mars was a deal between the emperor and the mechanicum to extract as much plasteel as they (semi)humanely can from us

[marble crater]

[lapis violet]

what stat would i want as the dump? warp res? quell speed?

both seem like good and bad ones because 1. i'm a fool and 2. i'm a fool

but charge rate and blast radius might not be the correct stats

[upper sun]

warp res is the dump stat

[supple dock]

if you're going blazing trauma you want blast radius and charge rate over damage

[lapis violet]

not gonna be doing blaze

that's not what trauma is to me

[upper sun]

charge rate and blast radius regardless of trauma build

warp res and damage have bad scalling as in it doesnt matter what numbers you get

HEY wait a minute

wasnt today supposed to be kusuzealot debue

how do you spell that word

[spice veldt]

debut?

[upper sun]

debut

yeah

god i hate french so much

@supple dock post zealot scoreboards

[grizzled iris]

He is busy in ST 10

[supple dock]

I'm like..

level 18 in this SS

the others were level 30

[upper sun]

ropebunny

[supple dock]

yeah cause imma fuck off on my own and get netted

[upper sun]

[marble crater]

Kusu getting carried

[jovial juniper]

Give it a week and Kusu will be crowning DH

[upper sun]

give it 3 days kusu will be crying about not having thrust 4

[wheat tulip]

So wait, you need to play a game over 30 minutes and keep DD at 15 stacks or higher to get the penance? I cant remember the last time I had a game over 30 mintues no wonder Im stuck in the 1200s. Doesnt the game just start spawning crazy amounts of mobs past 30 minutes?

[upper sun]

doesnt have to be all at once

[marble crater]

It's total time across all games, not in a row

https://tenor.com/view/brain-same-wavelength-twins-thinking-cosmic-energy-gif-15106217

[wheat tulip]

zero chance of tha Ive played a good 50 games of DD psyker so unless that was just changed in the recent penance patch there is no chance I have only had around 20 minutes of total max DD stacks back when it held for 30 seconds at a time

Im literally leveling my second character on DD because I wanted a name change

and voice change and all that

[marble crater]

The penance was added with the penance patch and you can change your name and voice now

[wheat tulip]

Well I guess that time was wasted and I was looking for a different one? I swear there used to be a different penance with the same thing, stacks for time over a game. Ill relook at teh penances

[marble crater]

Warp charges, which need to be done all at once, but they reduced the amount

[wheat tulip]

ah right I rarely use those Ill look at that thanks

[marble crater]

[brazen warren]

its fun to give a red stim to a purgatus user when a horde spawns

[cinder moon]

red stim with smite

[true lake]

what does red stim even do

none of the names make sense half the time

[hasty breach]

cant you change that at the appearance customizer now

[wheat tulip]

Supposedly yes but Ive been leveling it on and off for 2 months because I mostly played zealot.

so its at level 27 and Im not about to stop just because I can change it

[hasty breach]

it just takes some dockets ive done it on my vet so you dont need duplicates of the same class

[true lake]

lots of money though for something as simple as a name change

[hasty breach]

50k dockets isnt a lot which is what i recall at least

[true lake]

it's a lot when you barely touch the class and don't chug through maelstrom damnations like they are nothing

[wheat tulip]

I still cant play damnation with psyker anyway because its too squishy and I keep forgetting Im not an immortal zealot Im a 2 hits to kill psyker so the only way I dont die in the first 3 minutes is going on 4 so I dont die the first time I dive into a pack

then i get hit once and Im like oh I need to stay a bit back

[hasty breach]

just trying to save grinding up a 2nd character for no reason

im sure that takes longer than 50k dockets

[wheat tulip]

yea well unfortunatly I started before that was an option and I just found out about it a few hours ago so its a waste anyway

[true lake]

also just I don't enjoy the game enough to play tons of matches back to back with how long they can go on for

[wheat tulip]

50k is just one mission anyway

really its more of the toss up, I just did a 21 minute round but if youre with slow people it can go on into the 40s

[true lake]

it just feels like a chore

[wheat tulip]

yes especially with slow people, when I was just starting out I had to fight 8 crushers with a dclaw because they refused to move from their hiding spot, you know the hiding spot that would have been instant death if 8 crushers moved into the area

[hasty breach]

maybe take a break

[true lake]

I already do by hardly playing the game

it just doesn't feel as rewarding at VT2

also a lot less fun to play darktide unless I have friends

which I feel I have next to none of anyway

[lethal lagoon]

You still get double melk rolls

It's valuable and I won't be convinced otherwise

[hasty breach]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hiding-scared-cat-thaddeuswinter-thaddeus-winter-scared-gif-8846590460708131918

[ornate hamlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460028401558880266/1244693859791929405/giphy.gif

[hasty breach]

you go rawr

blue go zoom

[cinder moon]

blue's sort of a joke for psyker

you get faster quelling, faster brain burst/assail/smite jumps

and faster charging on staves, but i'd rather go for red stim 90% of the time

give blue to the achlys orgyn

[hasty breach]

what rly happens with red stim: you stab yourself with it, then immediately get grabbed by the chaos spawn.

[tidal rock]

pfft

[tidal rock]

give all drugs unto the psyker, it was meant to be.

I love how these are introduced to us as like smuggled in stuff from the 6th. So it's nurgle-traitor-street-drugs...and we're just jam'n that stuff straight into our arms without a 2nd thought XD

[true lake]

anything that makes us kill heretics better I guess

not like we aren't already criminals sentenced to death (or a fate worse than it)

[cinder moon]

i was framed

[tidal rock]

fair

and same

tbh the sea of zoom and colors makes the head-screaming more managble

[abstract forge]

hallowette laced my stim with fent

[lone ravine]

are you sure it was hallowette who laced it, or whoever hallowette "acquired" it from that laced it

[lone ravine]

yea

[lethal lagoon]

Post it just in case

[lone ravine]

change TB and weakspot

can at least salvage

yea but TB isnt that good on anything afaik

[potent echo]

It really does

Just make it a rending flurry

[lapis violet]

blue's the goar for BB builds

[lethal lagoon]

It does, but you can test out blazing flurry for us

[lapis violet]

pop, pop, pop, pop, fast quell, pop, pop, pop, pop

holy psyker book says blaze truma does want nexus, yes

[potent echo]

What's there to test

Even if you want to use it with true aim it's still cursed

[lethal lagoon]

Technically speaking, if you are casting 25% faster, you are critting 25% more often

[lapis violet]

and flurry goes for the brittleness one

[lethal lagoon]

Which is like 4% more crit

[potent echo]

That's a very misleading statement

[lethal lagoon]

[lapis violet]

dnd true strike user words

[lethal lagoon]

Have you played blaze trauma already?

[potent echo]

Yea honestly if you really want blaze trauma just roll those blessings

The perks aren't too important

[lethal lagoon]

Honestly, 25% flak isn't going to be make or break

Yeah.

at least you can see if you even like it.

Plus maybe the crafting update will add a 3rd slot

[potent echo]

Will crafting update nerf EP smite

[gilded viper]

Anyone got a scrier's gaze build?

well what are the good guns for psyker

[potent echo]

Laspistol are nice but the lack of stagger and suppression is kinda bleg

But with ghost they are cool

Just stand in place and shoot down 3 reapers

[lethal lagoon]

There still aren't really people running EP smite shriek en mass

So probably not lmao

[potent echo]

Perfectly balanced

Just like purgatus

[lethal lagoon]

It might even get another fucking buff because it's still mid when using shield.

[potent echo]

Actually

Shield does remove suppression right?

[lone ravine]

I think it just blocks you from getting suppressed since the bullets are blocked infront of you

[potent echo]

They are relying on the playtest community members to give them feedback that they may or may not do anything about

[potent echo]

Maybe I should run shield gunker instead

Gaze is

[lethal lagoon]

Smite needs variable stagger, you can't have reliable CC in a game like this.

[potent echo]

Yea its mainly a win more and gives you thicc scoreboards but

I dont care

[lethal lagoon]

If smite does 30 stagger per tic atm, make it do 1-30 stagger randomly.

[potent echo]

Reliable stagger sounds scary

Or unreliable stagger

[lethal lagoon]

This is a scary game

[potent echo]

They should just change EP smite to do something else other than damage

Maybe when you release the smite button you can big toss them afterwards

[lethal lagoon]

But that doesn't solve the problem of CC not fitting in this game

Instead it just make smite users even worse

Guess who used EP smite and who used Bubble Smite

[potent echo]

Ogryn run

[lethal lagoon]

Ogryn run is the perfect example of CC that fits in the game

[potent echo]

It's actually a crazy amount of CC

Also vet shout but

[lethal lagoon]

It's CC that grants an opening, not a breather.

[potent echo]

That one has other problems

Smite being "free" is crazy

Also trauma

There are playtest people who hate peril being free because of this

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think peril going back to vermintide mode would actually change anything

I feel about as safe with 40 HP as I do with 200

It makes no difference functionally.

I'm still probably going to get overkilled if I go down

[potent echo]

Peril changed so many times

In DT, used to take crazy long to quell

[lone ravine]

I mean tbf you had temp hp for basically any melee attack

[cinder moon]

it already does this if you stop smiting before 100%

[hasty breach]

ive heard it argued that smite should be used more for the throw and just started and stopped over and over if youre really camping it

[cinder moon]

the throw is extremely useful

but the immobilization and damage are arguably more so

[lethal lagoon]

The stun should be random, it's too safe

[cinder moon]

I think it conforms to the stagger immunity changes we recently got

[lethal lagoon]

^ that too

but we can start with baby steps

[cinder moon]

no, leave my force lightning alone

[lone ravine]

Smite at the very least should be weaker the more it jumps since the electricity is being split instead of focusing one target

[lethal lagoon]

Imagine a scene in starwars where Palpatine just stuns a whole groups of rebels and holds it for like 20 seconds. It even works with the shriek lmao.

Would be so awkward

[cinder moon]

I mean force lightning fucks up full on Jedi, it would absolutely wreck normies

[lone ravine]

Then he flings them across the the room before exploding to perils of the warp because he forgot to stop casting

[lethal lagoon]

Ok so first change, 100% on smite should blow you up

Not doing a throw isn't enough

[lone ravine]

Yea why does it stop you forcibly

[lethal lagoon]

You don't get a throw if you hit 100%

Which is okay, kind of punishing, but make people blow up.

[lone ravine]

Let them suffer instead of just force quelling when you hit 100

[cinder moon]

that would end up being a buff since more people would be using the throw instead of detonating themselves

[lone ravine]

What if smite was changed to a quick cast like how zealots knives are, and it just worked like a single target taser

Or very small aoe

[cinder moon]

that's just surge staff

[lone ravine]

Surge staff actually kills in decent time though smite doesn’t

[calm sapphire]

Ep smite yes

[cinder moon]

i like my zappy combos, don't take them away from me

[lone ravine]

The original message said take them away

I’m taking them away

[cinder moon]

[lone ravine]

[potent echo]

If ogin run is a good example of CC that's every 30seconds, smite should be a baby version of that if it's gonna be used nonstop

[potent echo]

Making it manual aim will go a long way in making it fun and balanced

A mini stun grenade maybe

[steady yarrow]

Are there breakpoints you should be aiming for with voidstrike?

[clear bridge]

...Gunner headshot

That's the big one imo

Gunner/Rager headshot

I forget if it's possible on Damnation without Warp Charges

But imo Gunner is the huge one, since so many abilities benefit from elite killing

[rotund fable]

Is Rashad good on psyker? I got this thing as a mission reward for a heresy mission my friend needed help on.

Stats look good (at least I think so, I dont know how much mobility matters on the Rashad)

[hearty oak]

I'd say it may be a bit weighty? Like too slow to swing and since the psyker doesn't have any attack speed traits (off the top of my head). Like you have the devil claw mk 7 and the mk4 rapier to use that help the psyker more

That's just personal preference. The weapon itself is destined to toe the line with needing a nerf and not

[rotund fable]

so it's probably a "Wait until fatshark updates crafting, and see if they let us move our weapons to other operatives" thing then?

because I imagine that this thing would be solid on zealot

as I've seen a number of zealots using it with chastize the wicked

[blissful dirge]

does Disrupt Destiny just bug out sometimes for anyone else?

wont stack. gives me a single stack and no matter how fast I kill the next marked target, nothing

[potent echo]

It's a UI bug

Can be circumvented by mods

[lethal lagoon]

To be clear, you still have the stacks.

They just don't show.

[rich spindle]

Just tried to clutch through smelter finale hordes with the duelling sword

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[lethal lagoon]

[rich spindle]

EMBED FAIL

[woeful cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[restive ice]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-surprise-attack-epic-embed-gif-21517708

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-heads-back-comes-the-part-laughing-smile-gif-17788811

[mighty olive]

i need to watch this now xD

[lethal lagoon]

Brendan Fraiser

[rotund fable]

Visual bug, The damage bonus is still applied, but the UI doesn't show the stacks. Popping Scryers and/or procing perfect timing usually makes it visible again for me.

[tidal rock]

so seer's presence or Kinetic presence? I'm trying to decide

[ornate hamlet]

Which does what?

[tidal rock]

the former is 10% cooldown on ability for you n yer homies. the later in 7.5 dmg boost to elites, also for you n yer homies.

'in coherency' I beleive is the term

[potent echo]

Either is fine

The nodes before and after are more important

CDR aura is broken though

[tidal rock]

cdr?

[potent echo]

Cooldown reduction

I think it still adds 17.5% reduction instead of the listed 10%

Valuetown

[tidal rock]

oh sweet, aight choide made

danke

[rich spindle]

Is it really 17.5

Never heard that

[potent echo]

Patch 13 it was bugged to be 17.5%.
Doesn't seem to be fixed yet, but idk if it was stealth fixed

[ornate hamlet]

The elite damage is not particularly relevant for the team

Max I'd do is use it to reach a breakpoint because I don't want to deal with crafting

[potent echo]

I'll take elite damage if it matters for yourself

[ornate hamlet]

Ideally the team already has their own breakpoints set properly, since they shouldn't be depending on the random chance a psyker will show up with another chance of it being that specific aura

[potent echo]

No one is playing around your team's aura, probably only in the prenerf survivalist days

[blissful dirge]

my ogryn still appreciates a survivalist. goes from taking the occasional ammo pickup to taking practically none.

the wonders of a thumper ❤️

[potent echo]

Kickback is too good

[harsh urchin]

rashad is always good, but it's not as good on psyker

cuz psyker has no attack speed steroid and psyker exclusive weapons are too good

[clear bridge]

Besides the force swords and the illisi, are any other weapo s good for Melee Psyker?

[supple dock]

dagger, dueling sword, uhhh

I think that's it?

[upper galleon]

Dclaw if you don’t mind the lack of armor pen

Chsword is just giga busted and uses crit/weakspot bonuses well

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/dVxPBV

I don't think I'll ever get over how fun it is one shotting crushers

[hasty breach]

theres always melee staff! 😄

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-hitting-with-staff-gif-853893766675771029

[cinder moon]

staff bonk underrated

unironically

will knock ragers out of their attack pattern, and i've heard it can stumble crushers

[quartz barn]

It can, but it depends on when you bonk them

If they are about to attack they just dont care

[rocky yarrow]

🧱

[cinder moon]

[marble crater]

Update will fix it

[lethal lagoon]

Finally, my hoarding will have meaning

[potent echo]

update with hadron

[weary crane]

Only horde 380s

Cuz they wont let you change the level

[lethal lagoon]

"You can now upgrade the base rating with a new crafting resource, called Copiumante"

[marble crater]

Can't wait for the devblog to read about some of the details on the update

[patent wing]

they didnt fix the dd visual bug yet gg

[upper sun]

cant have shit on atoma

This one is better

[upper sun]

heres your 380

how does hadron put reload 2 on this ill never know

[potent echo]

Reload speed needs to go from 10-25%

[upper sun]

reload speed needs to go

and stay go

[potent echo]

Nah it can be cool

[hearty oak]

Surely the update will fix our problems

[upper sun]

tbh

i changed some stuff on some bricked weapons in case the locks reset

[hearty oak]

I doubt they change existing weapons like that. When are they doing another announcement?

[upper sun]

1 month theyll release the update and say the crafting update will be delayed

so in about two months well get an announcement

[quartz barn]

If there's even going to be an announcement lmao

[marble crater]

Crafting update can't be delayed, because it doesn't have a fixed release date

[supple sedge]

what purge mean?

[marble crater]

Purgatus Staff, probably

[supple sedge]

no, there no A in Purge

[marble crater]

That's true, but some people call it that

Or we talk about purge as in killing heretics

[supple sedge]

so thats wut Purge mean

[hearty oak]

It's 'purge' as in it purges users from ever using the staff again

[supple sedge]

why not use it? seems fun

[hearty oak]

Low immediate damage that will come back to bite the user in the ass. In maelstrom games, I see a lot of pepurga staff users not knowing what to do with the staff or just not do enough for the team

[supple sedge]

any tip to use it?

[hearty oak]

Dont use it in maelstroms
Uhhh, use it in conjunction with BB with talents that increase cast speed for heavy enemies. Mainly thats the problem i see psykers keep doing is using it on bulwarks and crushers and bosses

[hollow current]

Like a femur toothpick, ulgo

[supple sedge]

OOHH

Femur toothpick yes Ulgo get it now

[rigid sky]

You can use it on heavies too, it's only Crushers where it performs badly

And you can stack uncanny once it's on to fix that

The main issue with Purgatus is the range imo, and the cc component feels weaker than it used to be

Flamer feels much better comparatively now

[supple sedge]

[hearty oak]

Red fire better than blue fire apparently

Also, im not saying that you cant use it on ogryn enemies, its more like you shouldnt waste so much of your time casting fire on them when you could be exploding their minds with the thoughts of rations

[rigid sky]

Depends on the enemy count and what else you are burning tbh

[rocky yarrow]

In mixed horde scenarios I mean what else could you do

[rigid sky]

I agree that brain rupture is the way to go for purgatus though

But I'm using it with WS just for the easy warp charge stacking from In Fire Reborn so my ruptures will never be that good besides Resonance

Fucking hate WS builds lmao

[marble crater]

For crushers you take your DS4

[rigid sky]

I take Deimos but similar thing

[lone ravine]

should i get this from melk and just change TB and upgrade maniac?

[wind spruce]

Yeah that's a good purgatus

Pretty much perfect besides tier 3 warp nexus that'll be locked

[rigid sky]

I wouldn't keep maniac though

[lone ravine]

?

[rigid sky]

Imo the second perk slot belongs to crit or unyielding

[wind spruce]

Krago's right

Crit or unyielding

And then use a better staff

[feral verge]

Nah don't put unyielding on the staff

Put crit

Put unyielding on your melee

Set boss on fire with staff, fire shriek the boss

Then swap to melee

[wind spruce]

Fair point

[feral verge]

The soulblaze dot will get the benefits of your melee weapon perks and blessings

Ideally you'd have a deimos with uncanny and executor for Max damage

[upper sun]

crit flak is the new flak maniac

every single weapon should have a crit perk

hell yeah blaze away for shredder(i have never used a shredder)

[radiant frigate]

force greatsword when?

[jovial juniper]

When you fix this emperor damned Cursed Scar

[empty ocean]

why is brainburst damage random without empowered psionics active

[radiant frigate]

it is not random

you may be getting tripped up by warp rider

[rigid sky]

It can't even crit

[empty ocean]

then why do i do between 1380 and 1410

[rigid sky]

Or it has zero crit modifier maybe

Warp rider

Or an aura

[empty ocean]

dont have warp rider

[rigid sky]

Why not lmao

[empty ocean]

and my aura is the cooldown one

im testing it

[rigid sky]

But maybe somebody else's aura

[empty ocean]

i took it off

im in the meat grinder

[rigid sky]

Oh meat grinder

Target type?

[empty ocean]

unarmored

it sometimes one shots a gunner and sometimes doesnt

[spice veldt]

simplest solution is to uncheck all talents except the ones needed to reach brainburst

[rigid sky]

there has to be some other interaction going on

[spice veldt]

and test that

[empty ocean]

well now its consistant, maybe it didnt actually remove my talents or something

[spice veldt]

yeah swapping stuff gets funky

[empty ocean]

the lack of empowered psionic on special kill makes brainburst incredibly frustrating to use

it feels great on difficulty 4 but suddenly on 5 it loses so many breakpoints

[radiant frigate]

realize that you have two more weapons besides headsplosion

[empty ocean]

yes i use them often but the fact that it leaves enemies with like 10-200 hp is not great

[radiant frigate]

one minor bolt from any staff will finish that

except purg

i like to think of psyker blitzes as tools for specific situations

may be common, may be rare

but they all have a purpose

[hearty oak]

I'm not next to my computer but how much does BB do in damage

[empty ocean]

i think i had a skill counting as active when it shouldnt have been but it does 1350 which is 50 less than a gunner has without kinetic presence

[hearty oak]

if the wiki is anything to go off of
You should be one shotting dreg gunners but I think of their resistance being unarmored, I think it mitigates some of the damage to just 1 hp being left

And correct if I'm wrong. I'm just trying to find the logic in it

[empty ocean]

with kinetic presence i do

[hearty oak]

What is it without kinetic

[vestal fulcrum]

These should be the baseline values I reckon

Resistant = UY, Berserker = Maniac, Disgustingly = Infested

Armoured = Flak, S. armoured = Carapace

[hearty oak]

Man. Why do I always have a meeting I have to be in right when I want to go test something

[empty ocean]

a beserker has exactly 2000 for me and a gunner has 1400

thhose are the numbers i get when i one tap them with empowered psionics active

[vestal fulcrum]

These would be the values with Empowered Psionics

[spice veldt]

those values are prob for brain burst and not rupture

[vestal fulcrum]

But then how come MyWaifyNow has provided these values at exactly 150% of what they would have been with EP?

[spice veldt]

dreg gunners have 1.4k hp and brain rupture does 1.35k damage

[vestal fulcrum]

Hm. Baseline, that is?

[spice veldt]

yeah baseline

[vestal fulcrum]

Okay, fair enough

[spice veldt]

*dreg ragers don't get oneshot by BR because they take 0.85x ranged damage to the head

[empty ocean]

im definitely not hitting 2025 on maniac

[spice veldt]

test it on a mutant and you'll see

[empty ocean]

oh on those i do but not on beserkers

[spice veldt]

yeah

they take 0.85x ranged damage to the head

you should be seeing 1722 damage to dreg ragers

[empty ocean]

oh so it would one shot them without that

that sucks

[vestal fulcrum]

There are skills that can push this damage value past the killing point, though

[thorn cedar]

yea you need warp rider (which ep means youll have) but also some other +warp damage

[empty ocean]

yeah i run empowered psionics but thats just not reliable

[vestal fulcrum]

Like the small 5% ranged damage node or Warp Rider

Not reliable… how?

I don’t understand what are you getting at right now

[empty ocean]

specials eat my psionics