No global settings? Wtf
#psyker-class
plucky flax
lethal lagoon
Yeppers
I have two internet lines, so I use one for all my downloading, the rest for normal stuff, work, gaming etc.
Having to manually change all the games was such a pain
Plus i have to do it everytime I get something new or redownload something old enough to have not been changed.
plucky flax
Uuhh I'll just turn off steam automatically launch on my laptop
lethal lagoon
Accidentally open steam, forget about auto-update, suddenly data cap is completely used
plucky flax
Offline mode
I downloaded dragon's dogma, ghost, and all yakuza games at home
I forgot my controller though but I heard mkb is not bad for these new games
lethal lagoon
Ghost is so good. I recommend hard over lethal though.
plucky flax
I'll just be casual
lethal lagoon
Then do lethal
plucky flax
Is that hardest?
lethal lagoon
It's a "realistic" mode per say.
potent echo
isnt lethal one hit lmao
lethal lagoon
You and the enemy both die fast
potent echo
do enemies also die in one hit
lethal lagoon
Some bosses and shit don't, but generally they die like you'd expect them to in real life.
plucky flax
Hrm.. 1 might be a bit much. 2 or 3 would be better imo is a game after all
lethal lagoon
It's pretty cinemetic.
I don't think it's 1 hit or anything.
It's definitely fast paced and cool though, it's just not that challenging once you get used to it.
potent echo
theres alot of busy work in the game though 😴 should i skip all the side stories
its so draggy with no real payoff
potent echo
probably should make my way over there
seems fun
like a multiplayer assassins creed
lethal lagoon
Basically mass effect 3 multiplayer
It's kinda of horde shooter esque
They added a pvp mode though, I have no idea how that works, I never played that addition on ps4.
There's also a seperate co-op story mode in the multiplayer section
Pretty rad
That was a totally free update too on the ps4 version.
You fight yokai and shit, so the tone is pretty different.
cosmic sigil
add me on steam then!
plucky flax
add me on steam then!
Link your profile
cosmic sigil
81056064
my friend code
i usually cannot play until late rn
everybody is watching netflix or some shit due to the current insurrection
also @wind spruce is in Oce as well
found the link
quartz barn
6 am gaming
wind spruce
we're almost in the same tz
That's like 6 or 7 hours out
It'd have a fair bit of latency
cosmic sigil
He's in SEA, how can it be so early???
cosmic sigil
Yeah usually but not atm
cosmic sigil
It's 9:42am GMT atm
Wait. Kiwi spotted.
potent echo
It's like 6pm in Australia now
cosmic sigil
Depends where
wind spruce
Nah I'm from melbourne
potent echo
6-7pm
plucky flax
No I'm not in sea now wtf
potent echo
Definitely not AM
plucky flax
I'm in South America
cosmic sigil
Oh shit
wind spruce
No I'm not in sea now wtf
Cos you're not a fish der
cosmic sigil
When are you in SEA?
cosmic sigil
It's like 6pm in Australia now
7:46 on the east coast
cosmic sigil
December I am in sea
I'll be in Italy then
wind spruce
Lmao
cosmic sigil
Well considering what's happening rn. I may go to Europe Sooner than later
wind spruce
What's happening
cosmic sigil
Insurrection in New Caledonia mate
wind spruce
Oh shit
cosmic sigil
The situation is quite complex but hmm the writing has been on the wall for some time.
untold niche
cosmic sigil
There's a pro independence movement. And the radical branch of that movement decided to burn everything last week
untold niche
It's pretty cinemetic.
I was downloading ghost and komputrr bricked
cosmic sigil
Like, schools, shops, cars, factories
untold niche
I asked some discord fren and he said ghost combat not that fun tho
untold niche
As in that friend say combat not that much depth
lethal lagoon
I find the boss duels have a decent amount of depth and are pretty cinematic on top of it.
About as good as you'd get for a samurai game.
The dodging and parrying feels fairly similar to sekiro, just more grounded.
That's why I was talking about Lethal vs hard earlier.
Lethal is pretty epic but you lose a lot of the depth of the combat.
You can absolutely RNG your way through parts of the game/bosses because things just die fast enough.
quartz barn
Wouldnt it be similar to stalker then
Where lethal is technically better because you and the enemy both get oneshot, but you lose out on longer fights
Which in ghost's case would be a bigger loss
Havent played ghost tho
potent echo
As in that friend say combat not that much depth
It's.. like slightly better than asscreed
quartz barn
Oddyssey was good too, but only if you like %dmg combat stuff
potent echo
Nowhere near nioh
lethal lagoon
I enjoyed Oddyssey, I just wish they had dropped the AC part and gone full fantasy.
quartz barn
Tbf nioh has 7+ systems at the same time
potent echo
Yea it has all of the systems
lethal lagoon
The combat felt pretty bereft of skill, even on the highest difficulty, it was just a matter of kiting and throwing your build at the enemy.
for AC;Odyssey
potent echo
Ghost also only has katana, which doesn't even make sense for the time period: 💀
He even calls it a tachi but wears it like a katana
quartz barn
Ki pulse, 3 stances, customizable combos per weapon, living weapon/yokai form, yokai moves + burst etc
lethal lagoon
2/3 of the stances were always signifcantly inferior and like 95% of the combos were useless
But the game encourages you to stance switch
Which drove me crazy
quartz barn
Depends on the diff
potent echo
That's the casual take
plucky flax
It's about to snow.
potent echo
Fextralife playthrough 
quartz barn
Also ye you'll use everything later on because you have to
lethal lagoon
Nioh 1 had dumb spam builds though?
All the best builds for both games were dumb spam builds if I remember correctly
quartz barn
Me doing many against one on ng+2 for the 100% moment
potent echo
Being able to do dumb spam builds is different from the game itself having alot of deep mechanics you can get yourself lost in
It's kinda like darktide you can run peesword pgun shout all game but that doesn't mean the whole game must be that way
quartz barn
Idk the spam build in nioh 1 for dual sword was hit into block, backstep hit, charge attack to knock down, charge att while enemy is down, crit, charge attack
All in 3 sec lmao
lethal lagoon
It's kinda like darktide you can run peesword pgun shout all game but that doesn...
Right, but you agree the existence of peesword and pgun is bad for the game?
Or rather current existence
potent echo
It allows more people to enjoy the game however they want
potent echo
Depends on whether you play to win or play to have fun (while winning)
quartz barn
Honestly this depends on the game
For dt is doesnt matter
In niohs case it does because high diff and skill ceiling
But the spam builds required a ton of precision as well
lethal lagoon
Depends on whether you play to win or play to have fun (while winning)
It's fairly unusual behavior to intentially play suboptimally to maximize enjoyment.
There's a good reason bloodhound fang is the most popular weapon in elden ring.
quartz barn
And most of those are only in nioh 1
potent echo
Living weapons spam is mostly to let people get pass difficulty
quartz barn
Infinite living weapon build has you spam soul shards to keep it going for example
lethal lagoon
Can't you just spam the sheath and undraw in nioh 2? That's the only 1 I remeber for sure.
potent echo
You can still kinda do one skill builds
lethal lagoon
Spamming the scythe heavy too trivlized a lot of early game
lethal lagoon
Like most of the story
Yeah.
I never really got into ng+, you kinda make me want to
potent echo
100% all the way to ng+++?
potent echo
I played until boss rush of ng++
quartz barn
But for base game youll be at +5 at that point
potent echo
I'm waiting for RoR on PC though
quartz barn
Spent a while farming for skill upgrades tho
potent echo
Hopefully end of this year
quartz barn
Ofc the wraith form upgrade took the longest to get 😦
potent echo
Spent a while farming for skill upgrades tho
This was horrendous
paper lily
is a 25 flak 10 elites surge too much to ask for
wind spruce
I gamed too hard
The bracket for my ctrl key has forfeited life
Like so many heretics
rigid sky
Is this like your character's knees going out from too much crouching
potent echo
I have a few of my keycaps break too
wind spruce
I feel like they would just make my situation worse
Can't believe the stupid plastic holding thingy or whatever broke
upper sun
you can buy a whole ass keyboard frame in some places
upper sun
just two more days well get a psyker gun, force dagger, two handed blaze sword and new maps!!!!!!!
potent echo
force gun
jovial juniper
Bro revive me I have force gun
wind spruce
Still begging fatshark to give a psyker exclusive gun
id rather they give us shotguns
upper sun
not a single carnival mission up
i still need 9 more 
i wish whoever made the mission terminal system has a very bad day and i wish their coffee becomes cold before they can have the first sip
marble crater
I'm not looking forward to when I need to do specific missions
sacred crane
not a single carnival mission up
Use mmt
digital mural
just two more days well get a psyker gun, force dagger, two handed blaze sword a...
how it feels to spread misinformation
patent wing
just two more days well get a psyker gun, force dagger, two handed blaze sword a...
is this end level copeium
upper sun
is this end level copeium
its true you just have to believe
untold niche
It's.. like slightly better than asscreed
i saw regular ghost gameplay and it was just either timed parries or dodges
hasty breach
whats that deimos 1 shot combo? executor and uncanny?
upper sun
1 shot for what?
wind spruce
whats that deimos 1 shot combo? executor and uncanny?
Executor uncanny is the strongest combo for special attacks bc it stacks them up to four
hasty breach
just checking
thx
so i cannot bear to play purgatus staff anymore
anyone have any way to make it exciting? just scrier's gaze?
jovial juniper
No
hasty breach
even as a break it's just painful
hearty oak
No, its a very smooth brain playstyle. It doesnt get more exciting than that
untold niche
Suffer as I have.
hasty breach
https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648
why not fun
jovial juniper
anyone have any way to make it exciting? just scrier's gaze?
Scrier's if you want to build lots of peril, while locked on the casting animation, with not enough time to quell, sounds exciting to you?
hasty breach
i spent like 50 hours on that build, it does work, there've been vids on it before
its at least fastpaced
as opposed to wanting to delete my purgatus entirely
but dont take it personally
lapis violet
psykers! gonna be running chorus for the penance on zealot. which of these two side talents are preferred for you?
hasty breach
the health booster one
upper sun
neither
hearty oak
psykers! gonna be running chorus for the penance on zealot. which of these two s...
Neither
lapis violet
so i just get a free perk
hearty oak
Essentially The bonuses dont last long enough to really make a huge difference
upper sun
there are no free talents on zealot
lapis violet
as in a talent that i can put towards anything else i'd like
lapis violet
this is what i'm working with
the thought it to run laspistol and mk2 evis
though... i suppose running martyrdom for the attack speed might be an idea
upper sun
wheres your scourge at
lapis violet
no attack speed
jovial juniper
Mk2 doesn't really have atsp problems
hearty oak
this is what i'm working with
Were you trying for crits?
hearty oak
If you have a lot of uptime on chorus, then you wouldnt need holy rev
or until death. and can just get scourge
hearty oak
they're running crit so im aauming they have shred as well
lapis violet
it doesn't attack fast enough to make the bleed worth it
jovial juniper
yes. love crits
Welp, scourge stacks up to 30% crit chance, with 25% from your keystone, shred with extra 20% and innate 5%
That's 80% crit chance
radiant frigate
things that you crit will die soon after if not immediately
hearty oak
it doesn't attack fast enough to make the bleed worth it
which evisc are you using?
lapis violet
i used to use mk15 cuz i wanted to have my brain off
hearty oak
ill be real with you, you wont notice viscous helping you more than bleed for the emperor
lapis violet
i don't see scourge getting procced enough to make it worth
jovial juniper
i don't see scourge getting procced enough to make it worth
You'd never see it on the Mk15 due to the 4 targets cap
lapis violet
cuz i like crit
hearty oak
cuz i like crit
I like crits but i dont like perks that give extra crit
lapis violet
extra crit is cool, sure
but like
scourge?
i oneshot little dudes
i oneshot bigger dudes in other circumstances
i rev up for carapace
there's no real need
hearty oak
i oneshot bigger dudes in other circumstances
Its more for being a stepping stone to getting enduring and upkeeping it
Might be able to get away with not needing TWBS but uhhh
lapis violet
i am not not running twbs
hearty oak
i am not not running twbs
Am i having a stroke or #psyker-class message
rigid sky
Twbs less necessary than before
But I wouldn't skip it on a chain weapon
I usually only spend up to 3 points to get it, if I'm pure left I won't dip
manic river
Just crafted this
upper sun
noice
manic river
Now I need a columnus to match ah nevermind
I made this 2 months ago and left it to dust
harsh urchin
scourge kinda worthless on evis
it helps immensely for mixed hordes
with gunners/elites/etc mixed in
not worthless lol
plucky flax
Its more for being a stepping stone to getting enduring and upkeeping it
No second wind? Toughness on dodge is very very good.
upper sun
second wind is veri based
i had to switch from left tree to right tree after gunner buffs
no more bleed for emperor ðŸ˜
marble crater
If you play badly enough you will bleed plenty
upper sun
very based charge marty set up pls use
right for hammer left for crusher
if you're not bad like me replace purpose with dualist
cosmic sigil
Hammer without twbs is a big nono
upper sun
ye its there
cosmic sigil
No on the right
upper sun
im dyslexic
cosmic sigil
Ok
upper sun
left
cosmic sigil
Also immonade is a bit of a trap
You waste point going that path for not that much value
upper sun
yeah ikno
but i dont get much use out of the knives unless im going flamer
i wish stuns and flames switched places
the infite scalling for the fire nades is really nice tho
you can hold off two areas
or throw one to revive
marble crater
Fire nades can also remove enemy fire, very nice
cosmic sigil
Yeah but in practice you don't have a infinite number of elites in one spot
upper sun
kinda hard to see whats the good fire and the bad fire
candid dawn
Hammer without twbs is a big nono
anything without TWBS is a big nono
marble crater
im not sure about this one boss
Try it
candid dawn
i dont know how youre supposed to even play zealot without that talent anymore
upper sun
anything without TWBS is a big nono
you dont really need it on faster weapons
cinder moon
TWBS is good specifically because it entirely negates hitstun
so you can do objectives without getting knocked out of it
upper sun
hitstun shouldnt be in the game
cosmic sigil
i dont know how youre supposed to even play zealot without that talent anymore
Unless you're caught without toughness then you cry
balmy flax
cinder moon
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
brother ew
sacred crane
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
upper galleon
Actually just a waste of a point even if you went restoring faith and HR oh boy you get a total of 150% cdr and all it costs is you getting downed
Put the point in duelist
upper sun
Dont take the martyrdom cdr node
its ok you get two more charges if you lose a bunch of hp or you're in until death
im pretty sure its hp damage instead of hp loss
this was a sedation mission reward
wtf
im gonna play so much more sedation now
imagine they fix overpressure
upper galleon
its ok you get two more charges if you lose a bunch of hp or you're in until dea...
Yes it is hp damage
It is not worth it
At all
Just go duelist
upper sun
b-but im scared
upper galleon
this was a sedation mission reward
Sedition has the best mission rewards cause the rarer the item is, the more likely it will brick cause it can roll t1 to t4 blessings and perks
upper galleon
b-but im scared
There is no need to fear when you have the god emperor’s light
Also it is just
Worthless
Dont take it
upper sun
There is no need to fear when you have the god emperor’s light
so tru so tru changing it rn
idk it helped me a bunch of times
but simply playing better would negate the need for it
upper sun
ye
buoyant maple
its ok you get two more charges if you lose a bunch of hp or you're in until dea...
You need to lose 33 health to get 10s CDR off FotF with martyr’s purpose
It’s hilariously bad
upper galleon
100 health
buoyant maple
If it was smth like lose 3.3 health for 10s CDR then it’d be at least like, something
buoyant maple
100 health <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
It’s CD x(health dmg x0.01) = 30 x 33 x0.01 = 9.9s
upper galleon
If it was smth like lose 3.3 health for 10s CDR then it’d be at least like, some...
It should just be very nerfed number and apply to toughness damage taken as well
upper galleon
It’s CD x(health dmg x0.01) = 30 x 33 x0.01 = 9.9s
No i meant
buoyant maple
It should just be very nerfed number and apply to toughness damage taken as well
Oh for sure
It 100% should apply to toughness dmg
queen fog
It should just be very nerfed number and apply to toughness damage taken as well
So you’d techically have near inf ability uses if u rock the relic
Then just run into gunfire
Hell a sniper jumpscare would do work on that ability CD too
upper galleon
So you’d techically have near inf ability uses if u rock the relic
A) that would give synergy to the straight middle tree
So yes
But also no
The number would have to be nerfed a ton
queen fog
So it literally wouldn’t be the same modifier talent
buoyant maple
So it literally wouldn’t be the same modifier talent
Yea
queen fog
Whole new way to be suicidal
buoyant maple
The current talent sucks lmao
upper galleon
Right now martyrdom has no synergy with relic because it has no cdr talent
upper galleon
Whole new way to be suicidal
Yes because the talent sucks ass and the other 2 need a nerf anyways
They did this with psyker and DD to make them synergize more
ripe bear
whats good for gun psyker\
upper galleon
The straight down one path is supposed to an archtype
Relic martyrdom just isnt good or fits an archtype
honest robin
its not the columnus i was looking for but this is A gunker gun
upper galleon
Therefore they should add synergy
honest robin
whats good for gun psyker\
i think the primo gun is a columnus infantry autogun rn'
honest robin
like no upgrades? yeah probably. what level are you?
ripe bear
max
honest robin
and yeah you can if you want but you're mostly sticking to the right i think
hearty oak
No second wind? Toughness on dodge is very very good.
He's more crit so he would be procing enduring a lot so it's just be a matter of upkeeping with chorus and knowing placement of yourself. I don't know, strange build
rigid sky
whats good for gun psyker\
CIAG is the best imo, accatran laspistol is also very good but more for a different role which kinda gets covered already by assail
there's the zarona variant too, headhunters can be good
honest robin
i run a slightly more crit focused upper half but the rest is basically the same
ripe bear
and this is what u use for gun psyk
rigid sky
What I just linked is my gun psyker build
honest robin
i run a purgatus with it usually because i never have good guns
ripe bear
why asail
rigid sky
it's very similar to seythi's
rigid sky
why asail
Saves ammo, both on your total reserve and on your mag
supports horde clear (since you should use a duelling sword 4)
ripe bear
i wanna use ilissi
rigid sky
synergises with disrupt destiny
honest robin
i dont care for smite either, and running a purgatus the range was super useful lmao
rigid sky
illisi is also ok, you just gotta be prepared to spend longer on crushers
honest robin
again
honest robin
it does more horde clear vs stabbing heads
rigid sky
I think DS4 ends up more effective overall
honest robin
i love stabbing heads because i play other classes but horde clear is good
illisi and deimos both work last i checked
the other dueling sword mks are just worse than 4 which is sad
ripe bear
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9c18ec7b-e638-4f79-8959-c18dca...
why no warp speed and purloin providence, so u can get warp rider?
honest robin
i really like purloin providence but i think warp speed is not super important
ripe bear
(i dont remember it)
honest robin
i should let hadron brick that headhunter for me before i give up on optimizing my gunker tree and go play ogryn
supple dock
Tbh for your sanity I recommend just playing ogryn unless you enjoy being punished for existing
honest robin
i like doing stupid head stabbing
ogryn is for winning hard missions
besides its a beautiful headhunter 7 i cant just let hadron not ruin it
supple dock
Lmao fair
honest robin
i mean look at this thing its begging for sprint eff and terrifying barrage
specialist damage, but i got deadly accurate which is good
goin farther
unyielding damage... not great?
and headhunter this is decent
hadron passed the dont spit on my face challenge!
ripe bear
hadron passed the dont spit on my face challenge!
these are all for gunker
honest robin
?
honest robin
this gun has pretty poor natural finesse that's a surprise
or wait no im misreading the way crits work
this gun seems like a good ol flak maniac one but i may as well hop in the lab
rotund fable
I've been running with this gunker build. had some decent success with it.
Reason the d-claw in the pic has block efficiency is because the best D-claw i currently have has that as the perk i cant swap out... though the 20% boost does let me parry 2 crusher swings instead of 1 before it starts eating my stamina to parry
honest robin
evil pistol make my hand hurt
yeah making perfect weapons is a real pain
item overhaul...
im hoarding everything i have in case it ever becomes useful
or they add a faster way to sell stuff
supple dock
I've been running with this gunker build. had some decent success with it.
I'd swap quietude for perfect timing
Other than that looks fine
upper sun
j-just 3 more warrens
honest robin
I'd swap quietude for perfect timing
perfect timing amps your soulblaze damage i imagine?
buoyant maple
this gun seems like a good ol flak maniac one but i may as well hop in the lab
V7 isn’t that great for psyker I think
buoyant maple
Not sure if Psyker with v7 can get the 1 taps like veteran
ripe bear
gunker more fun than vet
supple dock
perfect timing amps your soulblaze damage i imagine?
Amps all damage I believe, but more damage in general is almost always good, especially with a crit machine like the pistol
ripe bear
honest robin
Amps all damage I believe, but more damage in general is almost always good, esp...
it says warp damage but the tooltip being wrong in a fatshark game might be the least suprising thing i'll see today
honest robin
bonus soulblaze damage good with perilous i think
supple dock
It's not bad but if I'm gonna invest in it fully I'd want wildfire too
honest robin
thats really a no go for gunkers i think
supple dock
Better spent elsewhere
honest robin
or maybe...
supple dock
Like more toughness or the hp node at the bottom
Or whatever the left one is before the keystones
honest robin
to be honest, wildfire pisses me off i hate the entire horde being blue
supple dock
honest robin
its one thing if you're purg staffing then they go quick
3 stacks makes shit hard to see
supple dock
I've been running with this gunker build. had some decent success with it.
Nvm ignore my suggestion. Though quietude is kinda meh if the only way you can quell is assail
supple dock
its one thing if you're purg staffing then they go quick
Trash enemies don't matter and if it's an elite you can mark it
honest robin
i think the warp damage perks do help you hit some breakpoints with assail in damnation vs snipers and bombers and shit but not important for vraksing
i think for vraks i actually do want to go through wildfire probably by brainburst...
flayer procs beats smite for my playstyle i think
supple dock
Pretty sure rmb eats snipers either way
honest robin
the 15 second cooldown is ugly
rotund fable
Nvm ignore my suggestion. Though quietude is kinda meh if the only way you can q...
I mean... I mainly use assail as a tool to clear trash mobs, or to pick off shooters/gunners who keep ducking behind cover. Rest of the time I like being at mid to high peril for warp rider.
supple dock
Esp with warp Rider
honest robin
Pretty sure rmb eats snipers either way
not unaided on damnation
hits about 80% unless it crits
supple dock
Even with warp Rider?
honest robin
similar on bomber
supple dock
I don't mess with assail too much so forgive
honest robin
which ones warp rider
supple dock
20% damage scaling with peril
honest robin
im doing it with no support to warp damage for that figure
uh maybe if you're pushing max peril it will do it
disrupt destiny charges too probably
lemme change back presets and do it with high peril at least
supple dock
I mean... I mainly use assail as a tool to clear trash mobs, or to pick off shoo...
Yee, quietude gives toughness on quelling but you aren't quelling fast enough to make it worth a whole ass talent point imo. ultimately up to you since it's a comfort point you have available but like, idk
honest robin
yeah warp rider isnt doing it from like 80ish peril
rigid sky
why no warp speed and purloin providence, so u can get warp rider?
Warp rider is a given. Purloin is never worth it, warp speed is OK but I prefer to have warp replenishment
honest robin
why are you a purloin hater? i like to extend the gaze
honest robin
oh the numbers
supple dock
You don't have this point selected, but if you did
ripe bear
why purloin
supple dock
Quietude would make sense
honest robin
has that gotten worse since the tree update
thats basically a 3% quell on killing DD targets thats rough
rigid sky
It's just not reliable enough to be worth the point
rotund fable
and it's only a 1 in 5 chance
supple dock
yeah, it's pre bad
supple dock
bruisers are terrifying
rigid sky
I want to have as few windows where I am vulnerable as possible
So I value any toughness gain, and empathic evasion, very highly
supple dock
So I value any toughness gain, and empathic evasion, very highly
What, you don't enjoy pushing first into 8 stalkers and getting shredded?
honest robin
ok the bb pop thing is not good unless you're fast firing i guess i'll run smite? its not not useful
ripe bear
and curios we want ability regen. stam regen, and block efficiency
supple dock
EP BB is fine
rigid sky
Flayer is dogshit
supple dock
flayer sucks ass
rotund fable
item overhaul...
I mean... these are close enough to perfection that I'm fine with what i've got for now.
honest robin
im not running EP or either ability that makes the top mod good so smite is more like something
supple dock
I mean... these are close enough to perfection that I'm fine with what i've got ...
god dayum
Nice rolls
honest robin
do you have the true level mod lol
rotund fable
The 42% stability on the laspistol doesnt even hurt as much as you would think
honest robin
i guess it matters more how much you're spending
supple dock
it would matter if it actually had recoil 
honest robin
i play all the classes which means i have SO MANY weapons i want to get at least pretty good to enjoy them
i have probably 15 or so weapons i call good i think
for the love of god give me US4 i dont care if its not even much better
rotund fable
it would matter if it actually had recoil <:KEKW:619986909938057226>
It does affect hipfire spread... but even then... the spread only really matters if you're trying to hit consecutive headshots on a single enemy who's over 40 meters away
and 40 meters is a good distance to whip out assail
supple dock
honest robin
do people know for sure if soulblaze or whatever is warp damage
rotund fable
for the love of god give me US4 i dont care if its not even much better
Nice sword, what do you think of mine?
honest robin
breddy good
queen fog
do people know for sure if soulblaze or whatever is warp damage
Think it counts ya
honest robin
i dont remember why i settled on riposte over precog
supple dock
I'm personally not a huge fan of precognitioin, I mean it's strong. strong strong strong
But it feels like a random crit bonus
queen fog
Given it got a diff color and diff name
rotund fable
i dont remember why i settled on riposte over precog
Probably because this thing's crits hit like a truck?
honest robin
i was running precog on my mk5 i had for a long time
supple dock
the 6s buff makes it way more consistent
honest robin
poor mk 5 your swing pattern is sad
supple dock
so it's less damage per strike
but more crits which makes it about equal
and most things will get ruined by DS4 even without precog so I feel like the overkill damage is, well, overkill
SUPER good vs crushers in a horde though
precog i mean
honest robin
god i have so many good weapons between my characters but only a few are truly perfect... (within epsilon im not a 380 addict or something lol)
i dont remember what this things state was but its not bad, idk the blessings i missed out on
rotund fable
SUPER good vs crushers in a horde though
I mainly whip out the dueling sword for crushers. pre-cog boosted headshot kills it in 2 heavy's and 3 special-stabs instead of 3 heavy's and 4 special-stabs
rotund fable
Who needs a bolter when you have revolver...
honest robin
i got one just like that on my zealot its still goated
god bless the zarona
and curse the other pattern for tempting zealot players into being ammo vacs
rotund fable
I've had this staff for a while, and still havent rolled a better one...
dont get me wrong, this is an amazing staff, but i would have preffered nexus over flurry (it's base perks were just So freaking bad)
supple dock
I mainly whip out the dueling sword for crushers. pre-cog boosted headshot kills...
Yee, super valid reason for precog DS4 😄
I use a dagger as my melee mostly for mobility and bosses
surge for crushers
marble crater
the toaster...
Sad cloud radius noises 
honest robin
Sad cloud radius noises <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
just gotta sweep 😦
marble crater
Cloud radius is range, all the sweeping won't help
honest robin
yeah we gave up on naming the galaxies real quick
quartz barn
here's a funny
supple dock
It's a terrifying thought in and of itself
quartz barn
in order to exist something has to be able to be measured in any way
supple dock
Galaxies are impossibly huge
quartz barn
and we see based off light
quartz barn
in space there's no friction, so as a result everything keeps moving faster and faster, ever expanding
supple dock
Yeah. Entropy will catch up eventually
quartz barn
everything in the light spectrum is the observable universe
but
since everything moves faster it will eventually leave this spectrum
so for us, the bigger the universe, the smaller it gets
because there'll be less that we can observe, and therefore doesnt exist
supple dock
Because it leaves this plane of existence basically?
rotund fable
the toaster...
I've been told that Damage is actually a dump-stat on the purgatus... since most of it's damage comes from the soul-blaze stacks.
supple dock
I've been told that Damage is actually a dump-stat on the purgatus... since most...
this is true
supple dock
it affects the damage of the application
honest robin
tf is burning intensity
supple dock
tf is burning intensity
isn't that an attack from G Gundam
rotund fable
I've also been told that 76% is what you should aim for with the 'burn' stat, because at 76 you hit the cap of how many stacks it can apply at a time.
rotund fable
So... Does this mean that burn and cloud radius are the 2 biggest stats to look for when making a purgatus?
quartz barn
yes
supple dock
quartz barn
also for some clarity
rotund fable
since, i assume that cloud radius affects the range of your charged attack as well as the size of the m1 attack
quartz barn
with 76% burn you'll apply a stack every 0.35 sec, which stays active for 14 sec
quartz barn
supple dock
but that could be a hidden stat
quartz barn
fire dmg / stack amount
supple dock
supple dock
This is considered linear right?
Cause exponential would be a much more severe curve
..I think?
quartz barn
exponential = 1:2
quartz barn
so prob ye, i have to both remember math from atleast 10 years ago + translate terms
supple dock
I like putting things in simple terms because I'm a dumbass
supple dock
Being able to simplify and even oversimplify things is a skill a lot of more intelligent people don't seem to have
I'll see people explaining something in here in the most raw terms and ideas and it's like
quartz barn
mfw i oversimplify using i-frames mid dodge slide to avoid some chaos spawn in a corner while trying to kill the 3 crushers while paying attention to the trapper and potential burster
average am gameplay
supple dock
TRUE
supple dock
mfw i oversimplify using i-frames mid dodge slide to avoid some chaos spawn in a...
"just dodge lol"
supple dock
But I mean like..
Let's say for purg staff
People will start explaining every raw stat to people who just wanna know basic functions
quartz barn
tbf purg is weird
supple dock
it is but like
quartz barn
and you dont really feel its impact all that much
supple dock
"Burn is your actual damage, damage is for application, cloud radius is burn distance"
bam done
You don't NEED to know that burn increases application rate
rigid sky
This is considered linear right?
It's not either
Possibly some composite function
Or like some trigonometric element
supple dock
rigid sky
Like an inverted tangent or something
marble crater
The more stacks, the more damage
median sorrel
the only thing i stack is paper fr fr 💯 (i'm unemployed)
true lake
"Burn is your actual damage, damage is for application, cloud radius is burn dis...
I just explain as "make bar as big as possible"
no reason to go into specifics unless they are curious
most people can usually infer that more fire on one guy equals more burning
or that people run away and hide behind stuff to avoid fire
at least I hope they could
honest robin
man i forgot how much i hated the headhunter iron sights
time to grab weapon cust again
thin sightposts are lost technology from the men of gold
honest robin
people were right the headhunter 7 is not great for gunking the draw time is pretty painful
brunt has sold me The Misser
oh then he mostly apologized
true lake
should be fine, just got to upgrade it a bit and see where it takes you
honest robin
the one with good stats is blue-bricked but i took the 17 stab one into the lab and it's way more usable than i expected lol
hadron do not ruin me
maniacs damage...
stripped down ðŸ˜
unyielding... im just gonna finish it why not
deathspitter 4
not bad actually
i dont have fire frenzy or dumdum but those would be good
jovial juniper
people were right the headhunter 7 is not great for gunking the draw time is pre...
Not the Vraks 7 slander 💀
jovial juniper
Fair enough
honest robin
(swapping a lot)
the swap animation being really long is basically the only problem i had, and its kinda wack non-finesse damages
jovial juniper
It also doesn't have enough ammo for keeping it on your hands all the time
honest robin
yeah but you generally want to fire it at a handful of elites every time you pull it out
jovial juniper
Yup yup
honest robin
i like to play the same style as a zealot with a revolver where i pull for one target and return
im a melee addict
honest robin
which makes us darktide enjoyers what?
video game... 
fluid aspen
Me when leveling ogryn: "Why am I out of ammo, where are all the grenades, I can't deal with anything beyond 15 meters, the Beast ate me again 
"
Me when playing psyker on literally 1hp: "I'm ready to go lets do this shit 
"
upper sun
Me when leveling ogryn: "Why am I out of ammo, where are all the grenades, I can...
wait a minute
are you greek?
fluid aspen
upper sun
are u sure?
fluid aspen
upper sun
i saw someone in game with the exact same name and similar char
fluid aspen
I think you helped me with Malleus Monstronum a few weeks ago 
marble crater
supple dock
ripe bear
i just want to delete it
upper sun
I think you helped me with Malleus Monstronum a few weeks ago <a:Thinkge:9780905...
i have zero memory of that i just remember intresting char names
ripe bear
im fucking upset
marble crater
Update will fix it
supple dock
tbf if you don't have a better illisi
ripe bear
i dont
supple dock
Just stick slaughterer on it and it's fine
ripe bear
dont have it yet
supple dock
The second blessing on illisi matters so little
upper sun
ripe bear
rn i have on deflector
supple dock
Do you have unstable power?
upper sun
sustained fire
marble crater
flaming illisi is a meme
You are a meme
supple dock
slauighterer/unstable power is the main focus of illisi
supple dock
well shit
ripe bear
imma j keep on deflector till i get
fluid aspen
upper sun
ripe bear
yessir
supple dock
that'll work
ripe bear
how many times can i re bless?
marble crater
What does the Illisi in question even look like?
rich spindle
Bloodthirsty flame is for true gamers
ripe bear
limited ammount?
rich spindle
Anything else is crutch
fluid aspen
how many times can i re bless?
Infinite, just locked which slot
ripe bear
oki
supple dock
how many times can i re bless?
unlimited, it locks after 2/4 stats are changed
but you can do the ones that are unlocked as many times as you want
supple dock
exe would prolly be best for illisi
with your selection
special heavy
hit horde at head level
spam heavies without special
spam lights when surrounded
can be used to kill anything except ogryns and bosses
ripe bear
heavy special spam make me go happy brain
then i shoot things w my gun
basically playing a vet
supple dock
spamming special is a good way to get caught offguard, only need to use it once for horde to get stacks or to use it vs elites/specials
oh, and to keep your peril at the same spot
for warp rider
quartz barn
idk if there's better blessing combos but havent unlocked a lot yet
supple dock
only dumdum matters
quartz barn
can swap both anyway
supple dock
the second blessing is free choice
ripe bear
shi
supple dock
screenshotting is much more straightforward :p
Cause it's a pain to title it then save it then find the specific link for the saved build
ripe bear
rich spindle
So whats the acutal amount of cleave that special adds
supple dock
uhh idk the exact number but "enough"
you won't EVER notice yourself reaching the cap
rich spindle
I think I notice it stopping on that one map uh
supple dock
rich spindle
On hourglass where you go around hitting nurgle growths then leave in an elevator by medicae
supple dock
Here's my Illisi. First target is unfortunate but tbh it doesn't matter because it's mostly for horde clear and you're gonna hit trash often before hitting the elite/special
rich spindle
Bruiser hordes are so thick there I think special heavy stops cleaving
supple dock
Bruiser hordes are so thick there I think special heavy stops cleaving
lemme test it!
uhh, gotta restart game sec
rich spindle
Cool
Also, does first target affect the rest of your cleave. Like second target is reduced by X amount but is it reduced from the boosted first target value
supple dock
pretty sure it's "first target hit on swing"
but someone will be able to correct me if they know otherwise
ok my game just crashed on startup wtf
lmao
ok my pc is freaking out brb need to reset
rich spindle
Lol
marble crater
marble crater
Can I mind the music?
supple dock
Can I mind the music?
depends on how you're minding it
rich spindle
Don't mind the music
Damn yeah
supple dock
but it seems even with 66% first target, high finesse and damage
You can still 1shot a bruiser with special heavy
marble crater
depends on how you're minding it
I'm not even sure which genre that is, to be honest
supple dock
I'd consider it Americana
marble crater
Somehow that doesn't help me, never heard of it
bold cape
poor mans poison goes infinitely hard
supple dock
but yeah Americana is a music style that originates from America surpriginsly enough
Think Louisiana bayou music
bold cape
as soon as my friend shared their 2014 album way back i fell in love with em
the two singles feed the machine and hells comin with me tho..
absolute peak
on a similar note, port sulphur band go hard as well
supple dock
YES
lapis violet
as soon as my friend shared their 2014 album way back i fell in love with em
the...
PROVIDENCE
man providence
black sheep
devil's price
supple dock
on a similar note, port sulphur band go hard as well
Rise Up Dead Man and Death is a Bird Flying
lapis violet
so many understated bangers
bold cape
Rise Up Dead Man and Death is a Bird Flying
lapis violet
rip low roar
supple dock
asylums for the feeling
lapis violet
i like bones, personally
bold cape
i recommend ghost train by north country gentlemen
bold cape
looking thru my liked songs id also recommend blues saraceno, jim croce, and mumford & sons
supple dock
i like mumford & sons, though they get memed on like all the time
bold cape
never found a poor mans poison listener in the wild tho thats pretty epic
supple dock
bold cape
maybe slightly unrelated but i gotta push dire straits in there as a recommendation
primarily their '78 and '85 albums
upper sun
i would have done the same
lethal lagoon
It's not your fault, you have Bubble Derangement Syndrome.
It lowers IQ by at least 12 points at minimum.
#psyker-class message
supple dock
The pretty reckless is a great band that mixes Americana and rock:D
upper sun
we gotta thank the person who first mentioned the forbidden BB tech
supple dock
LMAO IM SAVING THIS
lethal lagoon
we gotta thank the person who first mentioned the forbidden BB tech
I actually kinda think 20 seconds of BB might be better, but 2 stacks for 10 is so much fun, I'm pretending otherwise.
marble crater
Leaving right away
bold cape
holy shit im an idiot
i just now realize after 110 hours that each character has different melk contracts
spice veldt
So whats the acutal amount of cleave that special adds
special attacks have 10.5 cleave
for reference, normal sweeping lights have 4.5 cleave and normal sweeping heavies have 6.5 cleave
supple dock
Kinda
spice veldt
basically enemies have something called "hitmass"
supple dock
Different enemies have different hitmass values
You need to beat that value to get past it
spice veldt
if an enemy has 1.5 hitmass, and your attack has 6.5 cleave, then you can hit up to 5 of that enemy with a single attack
rich spindle
Oh I thought hitmass was in the 100s
spice veldt
ceil(6.5/1.5) = 5
rich spindle
if an enemy has 1.5 hitmass, and your attack has 6.5 cleave, then you can hit up...
I see
But often damage will go to 0 by the 4th enemy?
Correct?
supple dock
special attacks have 10.5 cleave
for reference, normal sweeping lights have 4.5 ...
Will remember this number. o7
rich spindle
Depending on weapon
spice veldt
usually though the illisi and whatnot are a bit better on this
after all, illisi's special damage profile was copied nearly exactly from prepatch 13 power sword
supple dock
But often damage will go to 0 by the 4th enemy?
It's not that your damage gets reduced exactly, it's that it just doesn't go through
spice veldt
unarmoured/flak/infested cleave damage distribution on a special heavy
a normal heavy, for reference
supple dock
Oh it does reduce damage? Nvm am dummy
spice veldt
yee
supple dock
So many tiny details that I thought I knew
spice veldt
just that there are weird "edge cases" like some weapons having cleave damage distributions that go straight to 0 after a few targets instead of stopping at a nonzero value like the above
lapis violet
"disgustinly_resilient"?
supple dock
rigid sky
And it varies per attack
spice veldt
it's the in-code name for "infested"
i think it's named that way because that's what it is in the tabletop?
supple dock
"disgustinly_resilient"?
Code for infested lol
rigid sky
Evis 15 light attack caps at 4 without revved and like 6 if revved
lapis violet
why not just.... call it... infested..?
supple dock
Probably because 40k nerds coded it
lapis violet
Evis 15 light attack caps at 4 without revved and like 6 if revved
wait it... increases cleave?
rigid sky
I was told it does
Don't know for certain
Evis 2 h1, which is basically the same swing but on a heavy attack, is uncapped
rich spindle
unarmoured/flak/infested cleave damage distribution on a special heavy
Archery my lord do you know if first target increases the rest of these cleave values too
spice veldt
nah just the first target hit by your swing
assuming they haven't fixed it, there is one weapon that is the exception to this
and that's the ogryn's cleavers
rich spindle
I see so the cleave reduction calc takes place before first target bonus
rich spindle
and that's the ogryn's cleavers
Wtf lol
spice veldt
because the first target stat on that just acts as a damage stat for some reason
lapis violet
ogryns don't know what "first" is
rich spindle
Trye
spice veldt
I see so the cleave reduction calc takes place before first target bonus
the stat is basically just a straight multiplier to the first target hit
*in case you get confused by the wrongfully specific description, it also applies even if you hit only one target in your swing
and speaking of another bug related to the first target stat and the illisi
supple dock
"multiple enemies" my ass lmao
spice veldt
it's bugged on the illisi's special, if they haven't fixed it
the first target stat doesn't apply to its special, so it deals the same damage to the first target regardless of the stat
supple dock
Oh so it's fine that my dump stat is first target
rich spindle
the first target stat doesn't apply to its special, so it deals the same damage ...
Wtf
spice veldt
(hasn't been fixed even though i bug reported it half a year ago. I seethe)
feral verge
(hasn't been fixed even though i bug reported it half a year ago. I seethe)
so umm
uhh
yeah umm who asked
spice veldt
you don't ask anything because you're such a stupid manky poooooooooo
feral verge
you don't ask anything because you're such a stupid manky poooooooooo
im going to ask you to sit down and to be quiet
marble crater
Nice, more than me
marble crater
That's what happens when you only play one class
And then you don't even have the penances for that class completed
supple dock
I need..
Disrupt Destiny, Scrier's Gaze, Assail..
and shield
I do what I find fun in the moment
feral verge
supple dock
Going out of my way to do shit I don't find fun is garbage
feral verge
1955 hours
marble crater
Play gunker and you can complete 3 of those, plus gunker is fun
marble crater
1955 hours
That's a lot of hours
supple dock
Play gunker and you can complete 3 of those, plus gunker is fun <:staregryn:1022...
Hmmm you're not wrong
I do have a recon somewhere
marble crater
supple dock
I'll do it, but I'll do it in a way you hate
marble crater
I don't think it will be fun for you either
rich spindle
Guys how do I play assail
supple dock
What are you using it with?
supple dock
it changes depending on your loadout
rich spindle
Whats a fun one
marble crater
You throw it at enemies you want to kill, it's horde clear, with EP it's great against gunner/shotgunner groups, good for specials
hearty oak
Is it me or is BB acting weird in the fact it'll one shot dogs and gunners but then randomly forget that it can and leave them at 1 health?
supple dock
Is it me or is BB acting weird in the fact it'll one shot dogs and gunners but t...
warp rider
rich spindle
Is it me or is BB acting weird in the fact it'll one shot dogs and gunners but t...
YES
I just left a dog at 1hp for the first time recently
hearty oak
warp rider
Dogs though
supple dock
still warp rider
marble crater
Whats a fun one
Which staff do you like to use?
rich spindle
All mostly purg