psyker-class

[fiery roost]

can i make a crit build with staff right?

[rigid sky]

Surge and Purgatus are easiest for newbies

[fiery roost]

i really like the lighting stuff

[rigid sky]

Almost every psyker build is a crit build

Only rending shockwave trauma really doesn't emphasis crits (and is inferior to Blaze Trauma anyway imo)

[fiery roost]

oh alright, im gonna test it around then, crit build is perfect

[rigid sky]

Just make sure your talents and melee emphasise your strengths and cover your weaknesses

[lone ravine]

If you don’t wanna spend a bunch on different melees for different builds dueling sword 4 is pretty good for anything

[narrow herald]

yo wtf

[fiery roost]

ok thanks i think im gonna choose that one as melee

[rigid sky]

Also consider illisi and deimos force swords

But lower priority, DS4 covers all situations

[lone ravine]

Illisi for crowd clear Deimos is single target

[radiant frigate]

illisi for everything clear

[rigid sky]

DS4 is also mostly single target but can do hordes ok

[cinder moon]

ds4 does horde clear better than deimos

[rigid sky]

Yep

[radiant frigate]

rampage :)

on the other hand, slaughterer

[marble crater]

Slaughterer? I barely know her

[rich spindle]

I still have ptsd from acension riser finale with ds4 and surge

[marble crater]

If the other 3 also don't have horde clear, yeah rip

[rigid sky]

You can do a lot of work every few seconds with EP smite and shriek

[tight plank]

My god voidstrike is antifun to use

Just like a shit trauma without the goofy aiming trauma has

[rigid sky]

Do you have one that can oneshot Crushers?

If you don't have that it feels like ass imo

But having a death stick that kills any elites, in clumps, feels amazing imo

Shit at killing bosses though

If you get a boss it's better to stay on add cleanup

[tight plank]

How the hell would i 1 shot a crusher

[rigid sky]

Disrupt Destiny, Surge voidstrike

Might need +Carapace, can't remember

[upper sun]

ye you need carap

[rigid sky]

Disrupt Destiny is the secret sauce that makes VS amazing

[tight plank]

Dont have surge

[weary crane]

how the fuck am i even supposed to avoid the grab

[rigid sky]

Pity, Surge is a big difference maker

[lyric burrow]

you have to dodge right

[rigid sky]

Hopefully you find it soon!

[lyric burrow]

which you didnt have room to do in that case

[tight plank]

Is it actually worth it, seems like itd only do something against bosses and crushers

[rigid sky]

Voidstrike is one of the most rewarding weapons in the game imo

[tight plank]

anything else just dies and would waste the second shot, no?

[lyric burrow]

half the cspawn fight is making sure to keep your right open

[rigid sky]

It helps on maulers and ragers too, and stuff with a high hit mass

[lyric burrow]

diagonal right might work sometimes but generally right is the only way to dodge it consistently, you have to be stupid far away to not get grabbed backwards

[tight plank]

Aight ill give VS one more shot

[weary crane]

I always prefer strafing to left so its not normal for me

[lyric burrow]

yeah something you have to work into a habit when fighting cspawn

takes a bit

[supple dock]

[tight plank]

i just tried it with disrupt destiny, still extremely unfun to me

[supple dock]

Dodging backwards does work, dodging left does not @lyric burrow

[lyric burrow]

backwards almost never works for me unless im running knife

right is the only thing that is consistent for me

[tight plank]

What do u ppl prefer running with surge

[supple dock]

I fucked up the first back dodge, got the second at the end

Left dodge got me eaten

and by fucked up I mean too early

[lyric burrow]

remember meat grinder is also local host so no ping weirdness

[supple dock]

true!

But I have done back dodges in live games before

[lyric burrow]

back does work sometimes but i find right much more consistent

generally i only get away with back with weapons with better dodges

[supple dock]

o7 I find this assessment fair

[lyric burrow]

although i dont try back often

tbf

cause i just try and do right anyway

[supple dock]

Huh.

I just learned something

When the CS spawns, he will do 2 attacks and then make an attempt to grab you

Leaping at you counts as an attack

always 2

Okay, sometimes 1

Weird

But it makes a grab attempt REALLY early when arriving

[lyric burrow]

yeah i do think he tends to do it early

and then after its just whenever

[rigid sky]

I think the grab is just a random attack with a decently high priority and a cooldown maybe

[patent wing]

spidey sense mod sibling

[supple dock]

every time i've spawned it, there has been a really early attempt made to grab

more examples

[fiery roost]

vermintide ptsd kicks in

[flat nexus]

its when your near its face it will attempt to grab or do 2 overhead smash or 1 overhead smash

so technically you can stun rotate the boss if keep dodging right

[supple dock]

doesn't seem right, or am I not doing it correctly?

[flat nexus]

closer

hug its face

[supple dock]

..i am

that's touching him

[flat nexus]

lemme record

[rocky yarrow]

what are we investigating?

[lyric burrow]

tbf its a bit awkward because he flings you around when you block him

although i dont know about the slam thing

havent noticed/tested it

[supple dock]

closer yet

[flat nexus]

if you dodge left it feels like he will keep doing the over head more consistently

but if he does the grab there is a chance you might get grab

[supple dock]

Huh.

Okay I got it

[flat nexus]

get roated meme xD

https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-get-rotated-idiot-rotate-rotation-shark-gif-24511062

[pallid spindle]

It looks like if you're in front of it to the side it'll do the slam, but if you go too far and get behind it, it does the multiple-attack crawl thing

[calm sapphire]

hmm does this work for ogryns as well?

[pallid spindle]

No they have different attacks

[supple dock]

I think he means the PC ogryn

[pallid spindle]

oh lol right

but yes generally, dodging right is the direction that needs the shortest dodge distance vs. Spawn, so even ogryns should be able to do it

Though the other thing is that the grab is only threatening if you're alone, otherwise your teammates just trigger the throw attack and you're free

[lyric burrow]

as ogryn right should work but i dont play ogryn and its ogryn so i wouldnt be shocked if there was a bit of jank with it

since ogryn dodges dont exactly fly across the map

[pallid spindle]

I think if you have charge or taunt you should able to stagger the boss to interrupt the attack too

[flat nexus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1wLOzQl5eI just in case people want it 👀

[calm sapphire]

I find it alot harder to dodge certain animations for bosses tbh when using ogryn compared to the other 3 classes

Like I can easily get away with dodging backwards all the time against plague ogryn using a vet or zel class but never with an ogryn

[calm sapphire]

its too bad I can't abuse the slap stagger to shut down the monstrosities besides DH

Rumbler also can't

[pallid spindle]

I find the second swipe of the 3-swipe attack hard to dodge, so I just block or tank that, then sidestep the third. Other than that, I think Plogryn attacks are easy enough to dodge even as ogryn, probs just a matter of practicing it a bit

[flat nexus]

now if someone can figure out how to 1 on 1 a dh that will be amazing

[pallid spindle]

I find DH attack strings so hard to read

[supple dock]

as psyker?

[calm sapphire]

just brutally force yourself to 1v1 DH in psykanium and u will sooner or later find out how to deal with his attack patterns

[pallid spindle]

not to mention its head moves around wildly so I can usually only get headshots with vertical swings like activated shovel

[flat nexus]

any unit tbh, but one rule is that you cant one shot it

[supple dock]

o7 brb

[calm sapphire]

3 swipe is ez to dodge or block yes, its the swipe punch or that jab that can knock u way that gets me if I don't bother to block it

[supple dock]

...oops forgot to turn on recording

fuck

brb

[marble crater]

[supple dock]

It's kinda cheaty with how I do it though

+9 stamina and KD

[patent wing]

thers a window for 1 attack after his moveset unless u dodge but thats kinda hard with his aimbot

[supple dock]

Still getting the video ready it's too big so I gotta fuck with it

[upper sun]

just wait until it dies of natural causes

[supple dock]

Ugh, have to upload to youtube

annoyed

It's like barely a minute long but it's still more than 50MB so discord doesn't like it

Here's the SD video for now

https://youtu.be/BoFRkY1Sa_8

[flat nexus]

time to respec my pysker since pretty sure this cant be done on zealot since your using peril to block

[supple dock]

lmao

+9 stamina gogogogo

[flat nexus]

i always use 9x stam on all character

[supple dock]

good man

zealot can solo dh faster with more risk though

Can't block everything but you can do a buuuunch more damage

so gotta doj

[calm sapphire]

just use a barrel as a crutch

[supple dock]

lmaoo

Holy shit I'm so exhausted that it's taking everything I have to focus on the game. My vision is darkening around everything but the monitor

kinda cool

[digital narwhal]

God (Emperor) gives his toughest battles to his most insane Psykers.

[supple dock]

kinda horrible feeling

[supple dock]

damn, well done

[marble crater]

Quite the sus name though

[digital narwhal]

shush

[supple dock]

if it were like Jean Steele it'd be like Hugh Mann

THIS GUYS NAME IS ADORABLE

[calm sapphire]

thosed times killed

hmm did he had to clutch?

[upper sun]

ayo

[digital narwhal]

I did have to clutch multiple times.

[upper sun]

are you EU region?

[digital narwhal]

And I died once due to the game glitching me through a railing.

:D

[digital narwhal]

Yes

[upper sun]

im 90% sure i saw your guy

[calm sapphire]

silo cluster?

[digital narwhal]

Smelter

[digital narwhal]

What was I wearing?

[upper sun]

oh its been a while i dont remember

i wanna say something greyish/blue but thats prolly my memory fading i just remember the name because i thought it was funny

[calm sapphire]

it doesn't help that we have another 3 classes with 3 names that we can use

[digital narwhal]

Well this is what I usually rock

[upper sun]

i just remember people with cool names 😎

theres this one helios dude

really good psyker

[calm sapphire]

I only remember a name called joe rogryn last 4 games ago

[upper sun]

ye i saw a screenshot of that here

i also heard another ogryn talking about him in game lmao

[digital narwhal]

I'm the best Psyker I know

(For the record, I am kidding)

(My ego isn't actually that big)

[upper sun]

I am a solid "ok"

at psyker and zealot

rest is ass

[cinder moon]

there are like 20 joe rogryns

maybe more

[upper sun]

not A.S.S. ass

[calm sapphire]

me don't like sticking to one class for a day but end up in pain when I keep switching between ogryn n psyker. me play like ogryn when psyker alot

[digital narwhal]

I play Ogryn and Psyker a lot too.

I also play a bit of Vet.

[cinder moon]

bodyguard ogryn said my savant was honorary ogryn

[digital narwhal]

But I barely touch Zealot.

[supple dock]

mine is, I'm the fucking best

Look at me dominating this heresy twins

though tbf I didn't know I was at 175 ping

[lone ravine]

is psykers keep your distance penance 3 missions at any time, or 3 in a row?

[digital mural]

i feel like my disrupt destiny is fucked, i have the 10 sec duration, but it still goes down extremely fast and refuses to stack, idk if thats visual or actually the perk

[lyric burrow]

it does have a visual bug but the stacks do go away somewhat quickly now

they often dont show at all atm though

[digital mural]

yea i have that

[digital mural]

seperate

[marble crater]

What penance is that?

[lone ravine]

ah ty

[digital mural]

no melee damage through elites on 3 missions

[marble crater]

Ah

Trauma time

Or smite

[lone ravine]

i just have yet to play heresy on any character other than ogryn so

[marble crater]

Play damnation, then go back to heresy, it will feel easier

[lone ravine]

i dont wanna fuck over the 1 damnation team i do play with though.

[tired estuary]

dw babe no matter how bad it goes I promise you there's been people who have fucked damnation games up so, so muich harder (also it doesn't matter unless you bm)

[marble crater]

Fair enough, the jump from malice to heresy is bigger than heresy to damnation though

[lone ravine]

the jump from malic to damnation

[upper sun]

its ok just be careful try not to go down and itll be fine

i went from malice to auric heresy and it wasnt that bad

[lone ravine]

ok i'll go up instead, sent flying to the stratosphere by a pox burster

[upper sun]

the people in auric heresy just wanna chill and do penances

[marble crater]

Baby steps, recently I had a few toxic teammates, so now I'm just happy if people do their best

[lone ravine]

i have yet to see more than 1 toxic teammate

dude just got hit by every single lit barrel so i cant really blame him tho

[calm sapphire]

nah thats sedition

thats where the no lifers are at

[upper sun]

all i said was "chaos spawn moment"

[lone ravine]

When spawn of chaos is chaotic

[marble crater]

Instigator

[calm sapphire]

dont use the ass title, its gonna trigger ptsd for some ppl

[lone ravine]

We all know first person to chat is BMing

[upper sun]

I dont have it

[lone ravine]

GG is slang for get gud (scrub)

[quartz barn]

bro wtf

[supple dock]

yeah I actually just run no title

I also run the deluxe border

i look like a noob and I love it

[lyric burrow]

I like running auric survivor

i have ASS but i prefer surv

Er auric exemplar

[quartz barn]

i ran gunker for the second time and somehow got 10 revives and 5 rescues

[rocky yarrow]

best difficulty

fucktons of enemies but still get to clobber them all satisfyingly

[wintry idol]

im new whats the best build

[rocky yarrow]

its not the knife dont believe anyone who says it is

[tired estuary]

whatever you enjoy

unless its recon

[upper sun]

ye

my trash weapons hit all bps

[true lake]

idk, what playstyle do you like

[upper sun]

i think you're supposed to dodge into the claw thing

im not sure either left or right but backwards never works

i usually just try to shoot it from a distance lmao

[tight ibex]

Dueling sword is the best psyker weapon

I am dying on this hill

[plucky flax]

[lyric burrow]

yeah id argue 4 is probably the best weapon

well for psyker melee

deimos is close behind it

[supple dock]

There's no hill to die on wtf

[lyric burrow]

Caxe is probably in there somewhere although ive never used it on pysker

[rocky yarrow]

if any other class had the psyker melee the game would be busted

[lyric burrow]

overall though i think void or maybe blaze trauma is the best psyker weapon

[tight ibex]

I would have died here if i was trying to fight the crusher with any other melee weapon

Im like a cockroach that keeps dodging the boot stamping on it

[lyric burrow]

i havent played mk5 in a while

i think its my favorite next to mk2 although both are notably worse than mk4

sadly

[plucky flax]

Illisi my beloved

[lyric burrow]

i do like illisi although i just never need it in my builds

except when i run a staff every once in a while

[bold cape]

+1035
how many hours?

[upper sun]

not hammer

build a hammer right now

[supple dock]

i just got the game last week

i bought a battle pass off amazon

[lyric burrow]

i respect the grind

oh nvm

[bold cape]

wait what

[lyric burrow]

they are joking lol

[upper sun]

he just has a mod that makes him join only games 5 seconds before they finish

[lyric burrow]

peak gameplay

[supple dock]

@drowsy mulch unironically did that to us a few games ago

[upper sun]

ok

thats karma for me

[bold cape]

i assumed
but i also wouldnt doubt it if there were modded accounts being sold lmao

[upper sun]

i just joined an insta loss

[supple dock]

[lyric burrow]

as for hours if i had to guess 1500ish since my levels across all characters is 1200ish and im 1500 hours in

[vestal fulcrum]

Clearly an issue measured with inadequate skill

[upper sun]

hell yeah free 100 plasteel

[vestal fulcrum]

(dw it happens to me occasionally)

More plasteel is always welcome

[bold cape]

wild
im on like 100 hours
just gotta get veteran to 30 then the real fun begins (me waiting for crafting rework)

[upper sun]

my fault for joining the mission failed screen

[supple dock]

I don't talk to the poors, sorry

[lyric burrow]

i think im around 105k atm

spent like 30k recently

[vestal fulcrum]

this is what I have in my piggy bank currently

[supple dock]

oh ok lower middle class

[lyric burrow]

how many dockets tho

[vestal fulcrum]

I crafted this today

[supple dock]

we don't talk about dockets

[vestal fulcrum]

don't mind the blessings, they both can be changed

[supple dock]

im at like 1.2m

[lyric burrow]

damn

what obliterated your bank account

cause im at like

a lot

idk actually let me check

[vestal fulcrum]

I'm at 4.5M

[lunar hollow]

u get double exp for playing on samsung smart fridge btw

[lyric burrow]

15 mil

josho is this the joke i think it is

[lunar hollow]

?

[vestal fulcrum]

James Workshop propaganda

[lyric burrow]

dont play dumb with me

[lunar hollow]

i have no idea what you're talking about

[lyric burrow]

i thought this was going to be a refresh rate joke

[lunar hollow]

nope

[lyric burrow]

ok

that is fine then

why do i still feel like im being gaslit

[lunar hollow]

i dont know

[lyric burrow]

probably because its on the mind from yesterday ig

[vestal fulcrum]

What happened yesterday?

What happened 9 minutes ago, do tell

[lyric burrow]

nothing really josho was just making a joke that he knows bothers me so i thought he was doing it again

[lunar hollow]

the human eye can only be gaslit 0 times per second

[lyric burrow]

you will have no eyes soon

[feral verge]

Josho

After when we're done with him

[lyric burrow]

why did you use a photo of a rug instead of the normal image

out of curiosity

[lyric burrow]

oh yeah knife blows

[supple dock]

https://tenor.com/bIaWY.gif

[feral verge]

it's what i had saved recently

everytime i see a dumb family guy related image, i send it to a friend of mine

[lyric burrow]

oh lol

fair enough

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1241475691133014121/document.jpg?ex=664cf8d6&is=664ba756&hm=8395a0c9ba0e0a7868721d84b5b5accf9320da2f668887796c12fe3e9ef5a86c&

mine better

[vestal fulcrum]

but that's an Achlys

[upper sun]

Yes

[vestal fulcrum]

I've been had

[upper sun]

enjoy ur 2-3 day long equip time LOSER

[vestal fulcrum]

I circumvent the week long pull out time by never putting the weapon down

[upper sun]

nice

also an acceptable response was "i only ult with it"

[vestal fulcrum]

I typically pull out Gorgo first and then use PBB

The same deal with Ripper guns

otherwise you're missing out on a couple of seconds

[upper sun]

i shocked a zealot by deleting an entire chaos spawn with a power stim and PBB

youd think zealots would be used to bosses being deleted but PBB is something else

[pallid spindle]

same, I think it's just a cooler sounding title

[supple dock]

I think no title is the most chad

Fuck your titles I'll make my own

[cinder moon]

achlys with celerity or red stimm and pbb is a trip

[marble crater]

"I need ammo!" "I need ammo!" "I need ammo!"

[upper sun]

AMMMM-OOOO

every single psyker i inspect now is recon/bubble/BB EP

thanks telo

thank you very much

[lone ravine]

What’d telo do now

[supple dock]

ew ew ew

this is what he did

[upper sun]

nuked psyker meta

[upper sun]

battle med

[lone ravine]

Isn’t the recon shit though???

[upper sun]

infernus makes it work

dumdum makes it alright

[supple dock]

it is but like, if you're good enough you can basically do any stupid build lmao

[upper sun]

the thing is

itll still be better with a vet imo

and yeah great player over all

but i dont wanna see him murder my beloved class ;()

[lone ravine]

I wonder has this discord done a DT YouTuber tierlist

[supple dock]

i was gonna argue it's safer on psyker but like.. vet exists

[upper sun]

even then

[supple dock]

so nvm

[upper sun]

id rather watch telo play vet ot zealot

rather than BUBBLE

[supple dock]

vet is the safest class in the game lmao

[upper sun]

B U B B L E

[supple dock]

VoC vet anyways

safer than zealot imo

[upper sun]

yeah idk vet isnt for me

[supple dock]

when/if I make vet I'm exclusively using recon

[upper sun]

😨

[supple dock]

I need to suffer

[upper sun]

but what about peegun peesword peeshout peetag

[lone ravine]

i want to play new weapons but i also want to level the weapons i have rn

[upper sun]

i also kinda only play class only weapons

[supple dock]

There's a mod on the modding discord I forget the name

Lets you test weapons and builds without having to invest into them

[lone ravine]

i'll eventually get into modding, i just dont wanna do any of that stuff yet

either cuz im too lazy or just dont wanna fuck my game up

[upper sun]

ah yes you mean one of 50 mods

that need to be part of the game?

[lone ravine]

give my my vt2 functionality!!!!

[upper sun]

you can just revalidate it

[lone ravine]

ah yea forgot about that

[upper sun]

mod your game RIGHT NOW

HOLY SHIT

HOLY SHIT

I JUST GOT A RARE VOX COM

[supple dock]

speak!

what was it

[upper sun]

ill upload it

[true lake]

there are rare ones?

[upper sun]

well once the upload finishes you can tell me if you've heard it(my internet is dying)

[supple dock]

holy shit

I had one I hadn't heard before either immediately after you said that lmao

[upper sun]

😨

[true lake]

well they added some new lines

probably just hadn't heard those before

[upper sun]

ive never had players in game respond to vox coms before

its cute

[true lake]

I personally haven't heard a single one of the penance lady's lines

[supple dock]

I've heard her dialogue with Melk

She tells him to be nicer and he's like "why so they can die with a smile" or some shit

I just remember him dismissing her lmao

[supple dock]

kusu out of context

will you get the context? no

[upper sun]

context is that you liked it

[supple dock]

true

[cinder moon]

[narrow herald]

IM SURE

[supple dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sMQpWCNTQw

meirl

[cinder moon]

show me your jericho 941

[ripe bear]

zealot melee w blaze sword and soul blaze stacking seems good?

idk what skills id do for melee tho

[feral verge]

Are you talking about soul blaze blessing on warp swords?

[ripe bear]

what

[feral verge]

@ripe bear

[ripe bear]

i mean psyker

lol

schizo

[ripe bear]

yes

[feral verge]

It's not good, unfortunately

[ripe bear]

idk start skills for melee psyker

is the soul blaze sword good

or whatever is called

mark V

[feral verge]

It's not good because the swords kill everything before the soul blaze really gets the chance to do anything

[ripe bear]

ahh

[feral verge]

There is no soul blaze sword

You can get a soul blaze blessing for the swords

[ripe bear]

whichever is the mark v that burns with special

[feral verge]

There are three swords, known as illisi, obscurus and deimos

There are no swords that burn with the special

I'm assuming you're thinking of illisi

[ripe bear]

yeah it has more sweeping attacks

[feral verge]

The one that cuts horizontally through hordes

[ripe bear]

yessir

[supple dock]

factually incorrect, the obscurous is a lie

[ripe bear]

what should i go into to make it work, rn i just use the middle tree for the bottom and shrieking vent or w/e

[feral verge]

Illisi wants uncanny strike, slaughterer or unstable power

On most builds

[supple dock]

not to mention a big reason why blazing spirit is so good on trauma is because of the RADIUS

swords don't get that shit

[ripe bear]

huh

[supple dock]

sec, have image to show

[wind spruce]

my bad, i forgot which way round it was

[supple dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1238921512807825428/BlazeTrauma801.png?ex=664ce892&is=664b9712&hm=68ab134fb5c508f86145dd0733e53cdfa6355c1e2b736d25c038a51ab8d6aaea&

2 crits and everything not an elite dies

in this radius

but ONLY on trauma

[wintry idol]

im liking lighning staff

[ripe bear]

is mk4 or mk5 force sword better?

[ripe bear]

thats a staff

[supple dock]

yes, yes it is

[supple dock]

We know them as obscurous, illisi, and deimos. I dunno if anyone here actually knows the marks

[brazen warren]

illisi is my favorite, fantastic horde clear. deimos is good for single target, and obscuras is mid(from when i last used it a long time ago, might be better now not sure)

[supple dock]

obscurous is trash with a trash moveset

it takes the worst swings from both swords

Illisi can be used for pretty much everything but ogryns and bosses

Demios can be used for every elite and can... manage(???) hordes

[feral verge]

I have almost 2k hours. I don't know the mks

[supple dock]

[feral verge]

Also, obscurus is not trash. It's decent

However

Deimos and illisi are very good

Which makes obscurus pointless

[supple dock]

okay it's mcdonald's vs a proper burger joint

[ripe bear]

do force swords still have unlimited dodge

[supple dock]

n

you get 5 high-mid quality dodges though

which is unique for a medium type sword like that

[ripe bear]

L so riposte is not that good on them anymore

[feral verge]

They buffed riposte

Still, I dont recommend it on force sword

[supple dock]

riposte is fantastic in general, and I think it's fine on force sword but eh

[ripe bear]

for dps ilisi i use slaughter and what else

[supple dock]

on illisi the only blessing that matters is slaughterer imo

[feral verge]

Deimos should have executor/uncanny strike. Illisi is more flexible, and can have slaughterer, uncanny strike, unstable power, shred

[supple dock]

Second blessing is dealer's choice

except for blazing spirit

don't get that

I don't like shred either because missing a swing is so punishing

[ripe bear]

the one for blocking bullets ok?

[supple dock]

yee

[ripe bear]

what for damage in slot 2

[supple dock]

flakiac never a bad combo

If you're ever unsure

flak/maniac

until you decide on what you really want/need

or even sticking with that, it's a fine combo

[feral verge]

I recommend unyielding/carapace + maniac on deimos

Flak unnecessary on it

Elite DMG is neat too

[supple dock]

yee, elite/maniac and you can eat mutants in one shot with deimos without special

and uncanny

[ripe bear]

not damage to weekpoints

[jovial juniper]

Should I be concerned that I went an entire Auric Damnation without using my blitz

[supple dock]

What blitz

[royal marlin]

hey guys, best blessings/perks for surge force staff?

[supple dock]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1242243918125596672/image.png?ex=664d214d&is=664bcfcd&hm=2e57f2aeb41bec99ea509c07aaa97556171da81aea9fea5f89b30b37c15a9ca0&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=446&height=622

Something like this

[jovial juniper]

Smite, I only picked it for the TDR sub nodes

[supple dock]

o7 acceptable

[feral verge]

That's good

Too many ppl use smite too much

[supple dock]

I pretty much main smite but like

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1242142257214132374/EP_smite_example.mp4?ex=664cc2a0&is=664b7120&hm=522c8eff3e3ef7e6ae03531f2ad631fa750542744c5ba520b154bb103a3bcc05&

[feral verge]

I rarely play my smite build, but when I do run that blitz, I really only use it around 3 times a game

It's saved for o shit there's 40 crushers and bulwarks

Most of the time, it's better to just deal damage and kill the enemies

[supple dock]

#psyker-class message

Smite can 100% kill

effectively even

[jovial juniper]

I think I'm going to play some assail spam just to feel like a psyker

[supple dock]

Just blow yourself up twice every match for the next 6 and a halfmatches (rage quit the 7th)

[feral verge]

I am well aware it can kill

[supple dock]

You'll be right at home

[supple dock]

But you are right. People rely on it without actually.. using it

And then they die while doing 0 damage

[jovial juniper]

Time to get the extra wounds

[supple dock]

Make sure you insist that everyone else needs more wounds the whole time too

[spice veldt]

I'M GOING TO STAB YOU

[feral verge]

Huh

You okay?

[lyric burrow]

Insane person

[feral verge]

@spice veldt something happen?

Who says something like that unprompted?

[rich spindle]

I am going to stab you

[true lake]

was I random pinged

[feral verge]

Interesting

[true lake]

ah nvm

[feral verge]

What was it, who pinged you @spice veldt

Let me search

[spice veldt]

...

[feral verge]

Nothing??

@spice veldt you seem... Unwell

@mods clean up in aisle psyker

Crazy man needs to be put away

[ripe bear]

what do i run with brain burst as a 3rd weapon(ranged)

we got a schizo on chat

[feral verge]

Kinda sad what's happened

He is unraveling

@spice veldt I hope you get the help you need

[supple dock]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

What talent tree skills are you using? I can help from there

Fill out the points, ctrl + mouse scroll down to get the whole thing

windows button + shift + S for screenshot

[ripe bear]

dude

u explained that shit weell

ive had pc 2 years i

idk about crtl mouse scroll

[supple dock]

[ripe bear]

i want to be melee oriented with the ilissi i guess

idrk psyker just got him level 30 and called it a day

[supple dock]

Hmm

Do you want to focus on using BB?

[ripe bear]

idek if im in a melee oriented build

[supple dock]

Oh, right side is more melee/gun oriented

[ripe bear]

well idk i think i like it the most out of the needles and lightning

[supple dock]

And hold on, there's something super cool you can do with BB with the right build

[ripe bear]

by right u mean

[supple dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1239085948348661860/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.05.12_-_01.22.02.01.mp4?ex=664cd8f7&is=664b8777&hm=d4d1e7083f815183979ba53f81e4c99b1516fbbd1f1e30cb0c8dabd7fec6a01a&

[ripe bear]

disrupt

[supple dock]

This is what you can do with brainburst

[ripe bear]

mm idk

[supple dock]

But yeah if you wanna do more melee oriented you probably want to get scrier's gaze

Augments your ability to make fuck with non staves

However with the build that you've linked me

While making minor adjustments to the build that you showed me

We can make what you have work

[ripe bear]

i still have to work on getting a good ilissi

but idk what to do with the build to compliment

[supple dock]

The other 6 points are yours to spend

You COULD use blazing spirit trauma

But if you mostly just wanna melee then purg staff will probably be best

I'd pair that with the Dueling Sword 4 though

[ripe bear]

why combustion

its burn dps is low

[true lake]

because its funny

[ripe bear]

fair

[true lake]

also the other one does literally no damage basically

if we are talking shriek mods

[supple dock]

perilous combustion does a lot more than you think

And if you add wildfire to it?

PC + creeping flames + wildfire

= many dead hordes

But if you're going purg staff

Don't need wildfire

[true lake]

yeah wildfire is overkill at that point

you would already have basically stacks on stacks

[supple dock]

wildfire becomes more valuable the less sources of fire you have

since you eke out every last number of damage from your fire then

also, with creeping flames venting shriek, you wanna use it at 85% peril if you plan on using it to burn enemies all at once

though Warp Rupture wouldn't be bad either with that build

instnat damage to make your DoT work faster

[ripe bear]

ty for tips

[true lake]

you shouldn't be using shriek at all imo unless you are at critical

that's the main reason it exists

[upper galleon]

you mean you force yourself to be critical because CDR is busted RN?

[ripe bear]

anyone seen this

https://youtu.be/AHmZujtakPw?si=hqEYuf8VBVuhjOox

relevant?

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-peepoleave-gif-20075315

tanner

[ripe bear]

hes funny

never seen him b4 this

[upper galleon]

he's something alright

[ripe bear]

i kinda like it lol

[pallid spindle]

if I'm taking shriek it's because I want to be doing throwing 85%+ flame shrieks at everything. I feel like only using it to save yourself is a massive waste

Unless that's what you mean

[upper sun]

nah creeping does damage

can also save allies from dogs

[brittle pier]

can someone please help me complete the malleus monstronum penace please? im on xbox game pass

[upper sun]

i can invite me im very sleep deprived tho

[brittle pier]

just need penance then you can leave 🙂

whats your gtag?

[upper sun]

use the fatshark system

platform doesnt matter

[brittle pier]

whats that?

[upper sun]

social then find player

use the number in my name

you have a build already?

[brittle pier]

ight

yea

[upper sun]

double wall with the brain burst upgrades should help

[true lake]

havent really used it since talent rework but yeah thats a viable use too

[brittle pier]

you mean the shield?

[true lake]

the shield walls yeah

[brittle pier]

yea i got it fully upgraded

[upper sun]

did you find the social tab?

idk how it is on xbox

[brittle pier]

sent

[ripe bear]

columnus mk v still good gun psyk?

[true lake]

if thats the columnus everyone's been raving about then yes

i still prefer quickdraw stub

[ripe bear]

but i wanna use revolver and be a cowboy psyker

YEAH

YEE HAW

[true lake]

revolver is technically far better on veteran due to their talents

[ripe bear]

but

[true lake]

but nothing stops you from using it on psyker ofc

[ripe bear]

cowboy psyker

[true lake]

i been wanting to make a good cowboy-esque build after i got the one hat in the premium store

[brittle pier]

ty mate 🙂

[upper sun]

@brittle pier np btw if you're not sure what to build or what blessings to look for all classes have pinned guides

[brittle pier]

yea idk what build to use

been stuck between brain burst and smite

[upper sun]

i usually go with the blitz skill that compliments my ranged/melee choices more

or whatever's closer to the keystone i wanna use

[brittle pier]

these guides arent updated?

[untold niche]

i don't think a psyker specific guide can reach 1 hour but to be fair i only play voidstrike

[upper sun]

they're not that out of date

tho for vet someone made a guide already and they're adding builds to it as well

[brittle pier]

i actually dont see a guide for psker

[upper sun]

its this one https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

its a very good starting point its a bit long

if you dont wanna read just check out the weapons that you have fun with the most and take it from there

[untold niche]

just send your whole build using the darktide skill builer website

Say what you actually want in the build, what you selected because you think its good.
I also made a quick general guide for skill builds, but kind of lazy to explain other than if you path assail to middle you have no choice but to take one of the X ones.

[upper sun]

almost all weapons in the game are usable at every threat level

except power maul for ogryn

[untold niche]

orange is debatable / depends on build

im too lazy to explain each X or O atm

[hearty oak]

What do you think of telepot

[brittle pier]

i was using either blaze sword or dueling sword with brain burst/flame staff or surge with smite

[upper sun]

fantastic player nice streamer mid psyker

[untold niche]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
use this website

[hearty oak]

"Mid psyker"?

[untold niche]

for actual mechanics you shoild read the guide clad linked

[upper sun]

i dont enjoy watching him play recon bubble SUE me

[hearty oak]

What his recent vid?

[upper sun]

more like just last 4 streams

[upper galleon]

my opinions of dt youtubers range from "mechanically great, but questionable decision making" to lower, besides crab

crab is great

[hearty oak]

Never watch those, Just his vid on "super soaker" recon mk 6 had me trying it and having actual fun with it for once

[untold niche]

i don't think darktide have much mechanical skill ceiling

[upper sun]

@brittle pier this for example is the "orthodoxy surge" talent tree

you have two free points most likely for PC and KD

[hearty oak]

Dont know them. Only meat and telepot and thats as far as i venture

[brittle pier]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[upper sun]

recon bad

[brittle pier]

idk if this shows my build but

[untold niche]

i read before that crab taught lazorr what he knows.

[brittle pier]

something i was thinking

[hearty oak]

oh, and @plucky flax of course

[untold niche]

you have to click the share build.

[upper sun]

carb is dentally challenged person who nerds out about the game without actually playing it

[untold niche]

really? but but he lazorr teacher :o

[hearty oak]

I was typing that before i changed what i was going to say. Yes the recons are still shit. But he did show me a cool niche for it and i enjoyed it

[upper sun]

idk man the way he plays he could be using a birck and it would still do damage

[upper sun]

im just talking shit

[untold niche]

ah sorry it wasn't obvious over text :v

[brittle pier]

can see how to share

[hearty oak]

It was still fun to try. ||Recon buff when||

[upper sun]

never laser weapons bad

i only use bullets anointed in holy water

[upper sun]

you can just take a screenshot

[untold niche]

or what clad said

[upper sun]

I have not used a laser weapon since i finished levelling psyker like 1000 hours ago

wowowowow watcha gonna do give me free eye surgery with that

[hearty oak]

Neither did i. I been looking for any reason to use them but at this point, its the player that can make a weapon good but not the weapon itself being any good

[upper sun]

ye

i dunno they just dont seem that fun

the kantraels are alright

but the sights are shit

[hearty oak]

Weapon customization mod fixed that for me

[upper sun]

and i dont wanna invest all that plasteel into getting blessings for weapons that i may or may not like

eh i like staves more than guns anyways

[hearty oak]

You're not allowed to be a proper psyker

[upper sun]

guns bad

[hearty oak]

you will die in the trenches like a normal solider

[upper sun]

staves good

[hearty oak]

[untold niche]

staffs also more thematic

to a psyker.

[upper sun]

i just do brauto on zealot because theyre pretty stupid with ammo economy

[hearty oak]

"Ogryn, chuck a rock at this psykers balls"

[untold niche]

i don't like braced auto because hard to headshot and/or snipe

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1241475691133014121/document.jpg?ex=664cf8d6&is=664ba756&hm=8395a0c9ba0e0a7868721d84b5b5accf9320da2f668887796c12fe3e9ef5a86c&
LOOK AT MY STUBBER LOOK

[hearty oak]

Looks almost like mine

[upper sun]

headshots? sniping? no we spray and pray to the emperor

[untold niche]

:( but where skill expression

[upper sun]

in my melee

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/planet-of-the-apes-soldier-gun-shoot-gif-17888491

this you

[upper sun]

ye

[untold niche]

you should feel shame

[upper sun]

10 more missions in carnival bros.....

how am i gonna do it

[untold niche]

wats carnival

u want to stream

[upper sun]

warren and mercentile

[untold niche]

my pc died

[upper sun]

F

[untold niche]

u stream i watch, me me go pee first

strike party 5?

[upper sun]

my internet cant support that rn

maybe in a couple of weeks when i get fiber 😭

[untold niche]

this is wifi
get gud

wifi wth the AP being in another room

[upper sun]

I kneel...

[untold niche]

ngl i don

t

get how asia has one of the best internet overall

As in why they can have good internet but europe and US can't

[upper sun]

idk either

[untold niche]

i heard quite expensive for US / EU guys to get like gigabit internet

[potent echo]

Because financial center

All the underwater fibre has to go through Singapore

[untold niche]

SK has best internet tho

from what i know

not singapore

[potent echo]

By SK, probably Seoul

But there's like underwater cables everywhere, between HK and SG it's only 80ms ping because banks need to talk to each other

[lethal lagoon]

US had two problems, corperate corruptions and local corruption.
We gave lots of money to our ISPs under the condition that they built and upgraded infastructure.
Unsurpringly they underdelivered and pocketed a lot of the money.
On the flip side, sensing government money, local governments would massively overcharge for permits to build new infastructure. The contractors involved as well.

Basically corruption on every single level.

[untold niche]

hmmm, i think you are more well read than iam.
I thought singapore was more of a place with alot of safe investment opportunities rather than an actual financial center

[lethal lagoon]

That said, fiber is getting rolled out a lot of places faster and faster.

[untold niche]

i found this

[lethal lagoon]

Lots of U.S citizens have 1-5gbs download and 500-1gbs upload.

That's part of it.

Same issues as above ^

Government money given to a few ISPs, local permits making it tough for everyone.

Now that's getting solved, lots of those corrupt ISPs are offering fiber without actually building anything.

I.E the fiber was always avaiable.

I'm surrounded by fiber atm, I really hope they bring it here, but for the time being atleast I live next to a 5g tower/

Fuck AT&T

[untold niche]

@potent echo

[potent echo]

Both actually, alot of companies want to setup here because of low corporate taxes, like cygames did recently

[lethal lagoon]

Wasn't the whole Quadruple A debacle because of Ubisoft scamming singapore?

[untold niche]

yeah and singapore made sure they payed their end

[potent echo]

Isn't 5G faster than your LAN at this point

[lethal lagoon]

If you live next to a tower download is about 300, upload from 9-90.

[untold niche]

dude so what you take 5 minutes to load reddit?

[lethal lagoon]

It's faster than my Cox, but some people have newer cox

GIGS

[potent echo]

Ah that's so funny, I actually went to the gamescom where Ubisoft was giving a presentation on skull and bones

[lethal lagoon]

That's fiber spd for a lot of U.S people that have fiber

[potent echo]

They were talking about the goddamn water tech and graphics

Basically spent 8 years just using it as a tax Haven and not actually making games

[untold niche]

how come SK has better inetnet then

And i doubt the companies moving to singapore are paying for the fiber.

[potent echo]

Fiber is the default option here

You can't get non fiber anymore

[strong gulch]

RIP. I'm sorry that's your service provider.

[untold niche]

Yeah, but you said like the ifnrastructure is because of its position as a finanical cneter

[lethal lagoon]

I'm actually curious why your fiber is only 280mbs.

[untold niche]

thats wfi

wifi

on a repeater

[lethal lagoon]

Wifi provided by fiber

[potent echo]

Isp are fcking cheats

[untold niche]

i posted my actual fiber somewhere before (on LAN)

[lethal lagoon]

Ah

[untold niche]

i think like 500+ download

[potent echo]

They count by BITS, not bytes

[lethal lagoon]

That's pretty slow for fiber

My cox was unreliable, but I'd get 500 sometimes

Fiber around here is 1-5gbs

[untold niche]

@potent echo IM CURIOUS, EDUCATE ME

[potent echo]

So 1gigabit is 125 megabytes

[lethal lagoon]

No?

Oh gigabit

[potent echo]

5 gigabit is 600mB

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

throughput isnt the same as bandwidth

[potent echo]

Isps only count bits cause they slimey

[lethal lagoon]

Holy crap I went to school for this stuff, how did I miss the part where gigabits were calculated differently than gigabytes. My whole life is a lie

[potent echo]

Growth in the 80s all came from banking, even now banking people eating good

[ripe bear]

wifi talk in my psyker chat

smh my head

[potent echo]

I only learnt this recently too when I went to renew my isp

[untold niche]

how come

[ripe bear]

@supple dock oi

[lethal lagoon]

Okay but speed test are clearly in megabytes

[untold niche]

also gui where are you from again

[potent echo]

Sg lol

[untold niche]

i see, we can play sometime when my PC is not down

[potent echo]

Everyone uses bytes

[untold niche]

but im a shy person so no mics

[potent echo]

This one needs history lesson

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, my shitty unreliable cox wifi get's 300 down, 25 up, 500 down for fiber is...

scammy almost.

[untold niche]

go on.

[potent echo]

Something something why sg is one of the few countries with a special visa with US

It's not very PG history

[lethal lagoon]

Does US have PG history?

[untold niche]

im actually abit of a tomboyish egirl

[untold niche]

history isn't exactly PG tho

[brittle pier]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c17e826-ce28-4812-820c-4b72b975a8ea/starter-4?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[lethal lagoon]

Maybe the one time our fat president got stuck in a bathtub

[brittle pier]

ok so what shuld i change?

or is brain burst better?

or assail? i dont see much ppl use assail

[lethal lagoon]

Gimme sec, I'll fix it.

Also, crit hit damage perks are bad

Use Flak on Surge staff.

[brittle pier]

ok

[untold niche]

@brittle pier can you look at this first please

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, if he wants EP smite, he's getting EP smite

[untold niche]

he took damage VS instead of creeping flames, took wildfire

[brittle pier]

im not sure what im suppose to be looking at with that picture

[lethal lagoon]

For EP smite and Surge staff.

You want to get a Stack of EP smite

[untold niche]

circle good cross bad?

[lethal lagoon]

Use EP Smite till 85% peril, use shriek, and then keeping holding smite.

That will take care of like 90% of the screen.

[brittle pier]

im sorry what is ep

[untold niche]

atlas stop spoon feeding

we already spoonfed plenty

[lethal lagoon]

Empowered pscionics, the keystone you picked.

[brittle pier]

oh

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

he/she/they/xey are saying they don't get a picture with circles and crosses.

[ripe bear]

maccabian mk5 dueling sword precognition good?

[brittle pier]

well it ddint explain witha specific build is why i said htat

so no crit perks are good?

[lethal lagoon]

Here's an example of how it plays.

[untold niche]

i already told you to reference it...

[lethal lagoon]

On weapons, no.

They only apply to the difference between a crit and a normal hit, not the whole hit.

So it turns out to be like 1-4% damage depending on the weapon.

[brittle pier]

how do you get the enemy health bars and dmg numbers

[lethal lagoon]

Mods

[strong gulch]

Crit damage is poop.

Depending on the weapon and and you are using it for, crit CHANCE is good.

[brittle pier]

didnt know this game had mods

[untold niche]

cheater

https://tenor.com/view/orangutan-monkey-smh-no-nope-gif-7997720

[strong gulch]

PC only. There are a lot of cool mods.

[lethal lagoon]

I turned everything on to test stuff, and then I got used to it. I need to turn off healthbars before I'm permenantly broken

[untold niche]

|| i cheat too, just not as hard ||

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

before?

[strong gulch]

Mostly quality of life. Some accessibility things too.

[brittle pier]

so perks for staff sword is 25% dmg to something else and what other perk?

[lethal lagoon]

I have no idea what a staff sword is.

For Surge staff 25% flak is pretty important.

[brittle pier]

staff/sword

[lethal lagoon]

There's no universal perk chocie

So for surge staff you want Flak, and then either 5%crit, unyielding, maniacs.

For illy, I like maniacs, and crit chance, funny enough. But that's not too common.

[untold niche]

any staff but special only

i actually seen that gameplay in a5maels

[lethal lagoon]

[fresh reef]

man uh, that's a lotta yellow lol

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-yellow-gif-12747952

[ripe bear]

when scoreboard

[lethal lagoon]

The day after you buy a PC, fatshark will release a comprehensive update that includes a scoreboard.

So get to it

[ripe bear]

i have a pc

[lethal lagoon]

Then uh... we are never getting an official scoreboard

[quartz barn]

Simply get the modded scoreboard and set it up so only your things light up yellow

[lethal lagoon]

[digital narwhal]

I love how Crit Damage %ages are straight up disingenuous

It's not an additional 10% damage on crit

but +10% to the total of your current crit modifier

so 80% goes to 88%

[lethal lagoon]

@plucky flax Damage is the dump right

[quartz barn]

This is why % stuff is always fun

Literally no one understands it so you end up with something that is either extremely weak or strong depending on the stat

[hearty dagger]

if number big

then number good

[potent echo]

did the emperor cook?

[plucky flax]

Yes

[lethal lagoon]

I rolled 4% crit chance and 20% flak damage

A mid roll for a mid staff

Honestly, the game I ran with it, I didn't really notice the damage.

It was just a few times when a bruiser would survive with a bit of health that I'd be annoyed.

[plucky flax]

That's why. If you full blast and don't kill bruiser it feels so bad

[lethal lagoon]

Honestly it was fine, cause you'd just attack something else and hope for a blazing to hit em

Same thing I do on Surge EP

[plucky flax]

Low standard man

[lethal lagoon]

I like to think I'm creative

[plucky flax]

Speaking of Internet I now have 19gb a month

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

So if I upload a 500mb video will it auto load for you

[plucky flax]

It's unlimited between 12am to 6am.

[lethal lagoon]

Data caps are war crimes and I won't be convinced otherwise.

[plucky flax]

It is. Just these bastards making money.

They sell extra top up card £5 for 500mb wtf

[lethal lagoon]

Can you get starlink or some shit?

[plucky flax]

Not here on the falklands islands

Gonna be a shit 4 months work trip

[lethal lagoon]

Make sure you remove auto-update from your steam library

Unfortunately you have to do it per game