#psyker-class

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upper sun
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they also got an injection of dockets and plasteel staregryn

spice veldt
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nah just for testing

hasty valve
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Should prob look into some crit friendly talents for the left one right? Any suggestions?

plucky flax
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FartShart pls sell me $10 red blaze trauma 100% all stats blazing spirits 4. SadgeCry

rigid sky
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Every other psyker weapon is a crit weapon

upper sun
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i thought being picked up by a mutie made you untargetable

spice veldt
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if an enemy is in the middle of an attack, they'll continue to attack as you've been grabbed

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which leads to moments where you just get absolutely annihilated

quartz barn
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Simply dodge on instinct thumbsup_ogryn

spice veldt
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it's just that shrimple

plucky flax
upper sun
spice veldt
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man i hate the default keybinds

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i just rebound jump and dodge to the same key to check something and why does it just make you jump if your dodge is on cooldown

hollow current
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This reminds me that the roll until desired perk mod was a fucking god send until fat shark actually fixed that abysmal system.

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Which was an amazing surprise in itself. That they actually improved crafting a little bit.

lunar hollow
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the original idea for the reroll system was to make it cost more each time

plucky flax
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FS leaving tier 1-3 perks. Kek

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Imagine someone willing put t3 perk on their gears.

upper sun
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doing too much damage is unethical

spice veldt
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this is what we call value

marble crater
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Crafting patch when? Late

plucky flax
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It's next year.

upper sun
marble crater
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But I want to craft things now

spice veldt
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have a family so that you and your child can experience the crafting update when it comes out

upper sun
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WELL if ifs and butts were candy and nuts

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my grand kids would love patch 24 gotta grind for them

quartz barn
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at this rate ill have a child, which will then grow up into a fs dev to create the crafting update wtf

near wyvern
marble crater
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Crafting at home makes me sad though

upper sun
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craft things anyways

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the crafting update is half a year away

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also anyone notice this? i feel like today and yesterday ai director is spamming bursters

hasty valve
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Huh i missed this. And with this in the guide “the crit benefit is so much lower than you would think. Any decent total stat Surge staff will have high enough Critical Chance through Critical Bonus to keep Perfect Timing running and make use of Mettle.” shouldnt this Surge be pretty epic?

marble crater
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I feel like my gear is at the point that only perfect rolls would be any improvement though, that's the main reason I want the update. If I had shit gear then yeah I would craft

upper sun
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ye i have a good to great roll of everything i wanna play

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I will not stop chasing the surge god roll dragon tho

spice veldt
hasty valve
paper lily
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5% crit is a lot imo

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the way that chart is done is pretty disingenuous as well, it's still a 5% dmg increase which warp res doesn't give

marble crater
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How many more times can you attack with lower warp resistance though?

spice veldt
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yeah crit bps are what matter

paper lily
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if ur full peril dumping probably one time

spice veldt
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but i don't use surge or know the bps

paper lily
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it can matter vs dreg gunner iirc

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i mean you're already the single target staff

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might as well jack the dmg up

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@spice veldt that chart is saying flak and carapace isn't affected by the stat

spice veldt
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ye

paper lily
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is that still correct

spice veldt
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i made that chart just a few hours ago looking through the in-game damage table

paper lily
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hmm

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    crit_mod = {
        attack = {
            [armor_types.unarmored] = {
                0,
                0.3
            },
            [armor_types.armored] = {
                0,
                0
            },
            [armor_types.resistant] = {
                0,
                0.3
            },
            [armor_types.player] = {
                0,
                0.3
            },
            [armor_types.berserker] = {
                0,
                0.3
            },
            [armor_types.super_armor] = {
                0,
                0
            },
            [armor_types.disgustingly_resilient] = {
                0,
                0.3
            },
            [armor_types.void_shield] = {
                0,
                0.3
            }
        },```
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matches

spice veldt
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man

paper lily
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0 to 30% bonus basically

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for the ones listed as that

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which aren't flak or cara

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disgustingly resilient is unyielding

rich spindle
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Whats the diff between a 60 and 80 roll

broken carbon
rich spindle
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Talking about crit bonus

broken carbon
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oh

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uhhhh

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idk

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it should increase your crit damage/cleave

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n everything else

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but with arco saying its weird with armor

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idk

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but overall itll increase crit damage

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you can hover over the number in the stat list to see exact value differences

spice veldt
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they made it not scale for flak/carapace for some reason

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I assume that the numbers on the stat card are from before some patch

paper lily
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5% on everything except flak and carapace

rich spindle
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Bruh not even for flak

paper lily
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that's just the crit dmg bonus from the stat

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crits still deal more dmg

rich spindle
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Yeah

paper lily
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and crit bonus gives u 5% crit chance

rich spindle
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At 80%

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?

paper lily
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no it gives u 21 at 80

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the difference from using it as a dumpstat vs 80 is 5

rich spindle
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Gotcha

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Hmm... 5% kinda big

paper lily
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for chance, yes

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like if you had the option for a dumpstat, warp res is that stat

hasty valve
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Uhuh so guess we’re back to the left one being best then?

paper lily
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if you have a 380 stick that has 60 in crit bonus, it's probably usable

rich spindle
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U prob wont notice a difference between those two

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I'd play with the higher warp res lne because I hate the high peril gen

paper lily
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the +elites perk is probably gonna change ur bp vs gunners in regards to warp rider

hasty valve
plucky flax
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We comparing surge? staregryn

paper lily
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warp res just doesn't make that big of a difference on surge

hasty valve
plucky flax
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Me surge bad I won't post.

upper sun
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elite for gunners maniac for trapper no crit one tap

plucky flax
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Rager 2 tap with maniac too no crit.

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Dreg rager.

marble crater
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It does one shot trappers? I thought Agent lied about that staregryn

paper lily
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my current one one shots trappers at a full charge

rich spindle
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How bout 5% crit chance.

upper sun
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and manic

marble crater
upper sun
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u would if your charge rate was above 70%

paper lily
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i have other surges too that are good but still have yet to get a perfect one

upper sun
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my next million is gonna be on surges

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ALL OF IT

paper lily
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maybe i should play some trauma

rich spindle
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I keep forgetting how big the crit bonus damage on surge is

paper lily
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yea it's pretty huge but the base staff has a high crit chance anyway

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at high peril you have a very high crit chance

hasty valve
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Delving into surge min-maxing is hurting my brain

rich spindle
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I mean like the actual added damage of a crit

paper lily
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if that number wasn't so large dd wouldn't be viable at all

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dd is almost competitive with wc

radiant frigate
paper lily
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more like when the mutie shoves you into the fire and you just fucking die

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i'm totally safe here guys, no worries

rich spindle
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I remeber +10% crit damage didnt seem awful on surge but I dont remeber how much damage it actuslly was

paper lily
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well it's way less of a dead stat on surge than on other weapons, is it ideal? probably not

rich spindle
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I think its like 60 dmg

paper lily
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the problem is surge one shots a ton of shit already, so you wanna just be using perks to setup bps on enemies you can't one shot

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so a bigger dmg bonus helps more

marble crater
rich spindle
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It seems impossible to do a comparison of 5% crit chance vs +25% armor type

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Over a whole match

paper lily
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use powerdi

sacred crane
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opinions on my scrier build?

paper lily
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whats with that node at the top

sacred crane
paper lily
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the random single point

rich spindle
sacred crane
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the +15 toughness?

paper lily
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yea

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u have option for tdr or peril reduction for longer scriers

mental grail
quartz barn
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ye would swap the toughness out as well

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because higher toughness doesnt do a lot on psyk

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not on its own atleast

paper lily
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it helps vs stalkers

rich spindle
paper lily
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it's weird with scriers how that works

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i'd recommend quietude as well

quartz barn
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yes you want as much toughness regen as possible

sacred crane
quartz barn
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?

sacred crane
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i at least dont quell often as scrier psyker

rigid sky
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You don't have to quell manually

paper lily
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that's not how scriers works

quartz barn
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if you quell more you extend scriers

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so more dmg

rigid sky
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Every % of peril you gain gets quelled eventually

mental grail
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you quell to extend?

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no?

paper lily
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i would 100% quell to extend

quartz barn
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yes it ends whenever you're at 100%

rigid sky
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I quell to extend situationally

quartz barn
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at one point you gain peril so fast you wont be able to manage it any more tho

rich spindle
paper lily
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there's a 50% threshold for scriers where the gain gets significantly higher

rigid sky
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When I have to reposition

mental grail
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I quell it once generally, it speeds up real fast

rigid sky
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But yeah, peril doesn't actually interact with gaze

sacred crane
rigid sky
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Not positively anyway

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It does scale with warp rider though

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I get gaps in the fight all the time though

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First part of Gaze if I activate early enough is usually Assails and quells

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Transitioning to melee if close or gun if far eventually

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CIAG in particular can't just be blazed totally freely since it has to be reloaded often (but with my laspistol I will just shoot more often)

sacred crane
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Idk just using scrier and holding Q seems just eeeeehhhh when i can just let it end, get the effect for a bit and keep killing near instantly gain it back from the fuck ton of ability regen and use it again a few secs later

mental grail
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yeah do not just just start blasting with ciag when you first pop scriers you have a good chance at being stuck reloading at a critical moment

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with raking you can be less conservative though

rigid sky
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If the wave has already crashed onto us I usually don't end up quelling at all tbf

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Sometimes it isn't worth it

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I love Gaze, there's a lot of finesse to using it well

mental grail
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shoot horde or quell, both are situationally good for extending

rigid sky
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Well melee better

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Kinda

mental grail
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depending on melee

sacred crane
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personally i use knife on horde and use gun on elite/specialists hordes

rigid sky
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Battle meditation too

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Rare example of it being decent

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Duelling Sword 4 is king for gunker imo

mental grail
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correct

rigid sky
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Kills elites like Crushers super fast and horde clears really well with SG+DD

mental grail
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It's king in general I won't lie

sacred crane
rigid sky
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2 shotting Crushers is not boring lmao

sacred crane
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just heavy attacks on anything that is carapace or a rager

mental grail
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ds4 is more boring than illisi/deimos?

rigid sky
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I only use it on gunker though

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So it doesn't get old so much

mental grail
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it's about as nuanced as the other options, no?

sacred crane
rigid sky
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The fun is when you get a blob of 6 of them

mental grail
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there is fun to be had fighting crushers? lul

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news to me

rigid sky
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There is, if you have a DS4 or a voidstrike

sacred crane
mental grail
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you're insane

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(positive)

rigid sky
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Knife probably kills them pretty fast too

sacred crane
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ripose + flesh tearer + the high crit chance with scrier means lotsa bleed

rigid sky
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No uncanny lmao

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OK nvm then

formal hill
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You psykers want to feel jealous?

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Feel the jealousy flow through you

sacred crane
formal hill
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1v1 irl

formal hill
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Unicoomer

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"Sending hate from the US"

plucky flax
mental grail
formal hill
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HOLYchadgryn

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We getting outta damnation with this one

mental grail
formal hill
plucky flax
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Yes I use cheat mods.

formal hill
plucky flax
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They are either xbox/gamepass player.

formal hill
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Poggers cheats

ornate hamlet
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the mods, praise be

mental grail
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tbf you can tell if someone is a console player very easily

formal hill
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Console player vets going crazy with this one

mental grail
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if they're playing above malice, it's very unlikely KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
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It's me I'm the console noob.

mental grail
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at heresy/damnation I'm often the only console player on the team

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it's actually shocking

plucky flax
ornate hamlet
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wait your a consul player, now your stance on void strike make 100% sense

formal hill
mental grail
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I step down into malice to do penances and boom, all 4 players are xbox noobs

formal hill
mental grail
plucky flax
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Pls no flame.

mental grail
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including myself

formal hill
plucky flax
mental grail
ornate hamlet
mental grail
formal hill
stiff falcon
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console players in auric is always cringe

mental grail
formal hill
stiff falcon
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3 Xbox players were good

ornate hamlet
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lmao

formal hill
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So many mutants I run out of dodges then get thrown into a Daemon host, then trapped then caught on fire

plucky flax
stiff falcon
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Out of thousands

plucky flax
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I like it. SadgeCry

formal hill
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You know the usual

mental grail
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believable

ornate hamlet
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consul players apperently have no thumbs

formal hill
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Only thing I like is killing for the emperor, simple as

plucky flax
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If people want to play some memes I am down for afew.

mental grail
plucky flax
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4 psykers op pogryn

stiff falcon
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Console player, gungryn, four wounds

formal hill
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It's a good one

mental grail
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yeah lmao

plucky flax
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Tbh there's a mini map mod but it's too clutter for me to use. whatthefuck_heresy

mental grail
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that's the one lul lul

plucky flax
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I have standard you know.

mental grail
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do you??

formal hill
paper lily
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i can't stand even healthbars in missions

mental grail
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I've seen the graphics settings you play on

ornate hamlet
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low and lower

formal hill
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I play on minimum settings, still get 40 fps, 4090 and all chadgryn

plucky flax
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Btw I feel like voidstrike is really good on relay station. anime_think

mental grail
ornate hamlet
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my game is 1 step off the potato mod

ornate hamlet
formal hill
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Voidstrike is really good on anything

ornate hamlet
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its dumb

plucky flax
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It's poop on refinery delta.

formal hill
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Cap

ornate hamlet
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user error

plucky flax
mental grail
formal hill
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You can kill anything with it ever

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Solo DH with it tbh

plucky flax
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Let's see it. whatthefuck_heresy

formal hill
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Hold my gamer chair

ornate hamlet
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though if you like channeling ppl in long lines an knocking them over and you call that good i can see what you mean

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so maps might make that harder

formal hill
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It's good at sniping specials through hordes

plucky flax
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I also don't think it's good for hab dreyko.

formal hill
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Lowkey it's the Psykers plasma gun

ornate hamlet
plucky flax
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Too many places enemies just pop right on top of you.

formal hill
formal hill
mental grail
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p gun but instead of burning your hands it burns your brain

plucky flax
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I don't know how I don't dodge in sedition.

ornate hamlet
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lmao

formal hill
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And instead of the Plasma gun not being good at horde clear it actually is really good at it

mental grail
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I'm not a vet, is the p gun infinite ammo too?

formal hill
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No lmao

ornate hamlet
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maybe because they buffed the cleave from hitting 1 or 2 ppl, to screw we ball

mental grail
ornate hamlet
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the plasma gun

mental grail
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common freak w

formal hill
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They buffed the plasma to a melta

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Tbh

mental grail
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oh

ornate hamlet
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they buffed the plasma to a cannon

formal hill
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Plasma is supposed to explode on target and leave behind a pool of plasma, not penetrate everything that exists

plucky flax
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Anyone who knows how to get the relic on this map wanna help?

formal hill
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Press button

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Corresponding Letter

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In jail

plucky flax
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My chat is always broken I can't communicate with randos in lobby.

formal hill
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Atleast you can act like a discord kitten then and get free things

ornate hamlet
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wait is there a mod that disables chat

formal hill
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One L is another's W

mental grail
plucky flax
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All my games on this map people never go for relic so I can't piggyback off it.

ornate hamlet
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the flaw of making the relics one time

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ppl find it once and never again

formal hill
stiff falcon
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Most of the time

ornate hamlet
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oh i know chat sometimes just doesnt work

mental grail
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I'm always the one going for relic Sitgryn a rando stole my relic on one of the hourglass missions

ornate hamlet
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hasnt happened to me in awhile though

formal hill
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Actually I ask everyone anytime I play a map if they need the martyr skull

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Literally every time

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And even if I have it I'll still show them

plucky flax
plucky flax
stiff falcon
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Yeah that’s just the server

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Happens all the time

plucky flax
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No it happens every single session for me.

stiff falcon
formal hill
stiff falcon
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I purged my modlist to increase fps

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Big sad

plucky flax
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Yeah I get stutter from weapon customisation mod.

mental grail
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unfortunate

formal hill
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I used like 2 mods lmao

plucky flax
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But it's cheat to give me reflex sights.

ornate hamlet
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scoreboard

formal hill
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Scoreboard and numeric UI

stiff falcon
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Claim all penances at once

plucky flax
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I need a better cpu.

stiff falcon
ornate hamlet
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you cant live without scoreboard

formal hill
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I've already claimed 4200 penance points by hand

ornate hamlet
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well you can but its a lower quality of life

stiff falcon
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I got to 4500

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And I’m never playing ogryn again after farming those penances

formal hill
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Honestly guardsman kills with marksman focus I just can't do

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It's too tedious

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And I don't like being a mainly gun class I don't find enjoyment in it

plucky flax
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Heavy hitter is the worst one by far.

stiff falcon
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Yeah

plucky flax
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I'm 3.1k/5k.

formal hill
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I got that one by playing normally first day lmao

plucky flax
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But I gave up.

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CAP

stiff falcon
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I had a friend afk and just farmed baross

formal hill
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I mean

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I have it so

plucky flax
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First day? whatthefuck_heresy

stiff falcon
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How many games did you run

formal hill
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Yeah I played a bunch

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Too many

plucky flax
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I afk farmed that stupid penance for nearly 2 hours and got 2.5k.

formal hill
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Probably like 20 or 30

plucky flax
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Then I died from boredom.

rich spindle
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Plasma gun needs to only hit 1 target, and have an aoe based on charge time

stiff falcon
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No nerfing plasma

formal hill
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Yeah it should be Vets boss killing gun

rich spindle
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I hate that gun 😭

stiff falcon
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I love plasma so much

rich spindle
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Its so easy

tired estuary
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cleave on rmb is fine, lmb is way too bloated

formal hill
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Just wait till you find out about vets other guns that are better

stiff falcon
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Plasma is peak

rich spindle
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Oh?

ornate hamlet
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abhorr columnus kill plasma, burn void

stiff falcon
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Colomnus doesn’t keep up

formal hill
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Nah, it's too ammo hungry, Columnus is crazy rn

rich spindle
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Bro..

formal hill
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Kills faster than plasma too

plucky flax
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Dorn me bro you helping me with this?

stiff falcon
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I can one shot crushers

plucky flax
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Otherwise I try my luck in lfg channel. monkaHide

rich spindle
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Using my columnus to kill a bulwark through his shield

formal hill
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Real

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My point is ammo economy especially with current penances

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Gluggers eat all ammo on map

ornate hamlet
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run a knife and be faster

formal hill
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Gun psyker also crazy crazy right now

mental grail
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unfortunately especially with columnus

formal hill
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If you have a vet with surv it's just nasty asf

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Not as bad as it was but still

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Imo, someone suggest surv should be for vet only and not AIC and I agree

tired estuary
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It should be gone entirely

formal hill
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It makes glugger and gun psyker so much better

paper lily
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basically never had issue with ammo on any character

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u either wasted it on trash or ur accuracy is bad if u constantly dip to 0

tired estuary
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glugger and gunker can absolutely live without it with just the tiniest amt of discretion

rich spindle
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Everyones skill trees need a massive nerf

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Or they need a difficulty above auric mael

formal hill
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Well they still haven't added red weps either

ornate hamlet
paper lily
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they can just make threats faster really

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like dogs doing the stupid growl pounce, they have a running pounce just remove the slower one

formal hill
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Don knows what I mean about reds

mental grail
ornate hamlet
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i dont think the solution is to make dogs more annoying

formal hill
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No like he means add another difficulty level

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Which I agree

rich spindle
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Dante Must Die mode

paper lily
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that was just an example, all threats

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trapper traps faster dog dogs faster mutant does more dmg etc

formal hill
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Another difficulty isn't a bad thing, because it's player choice

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They could have 100 difficulties and it'd be okay

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Imagine the plasteel farm on difficulty 100 js

marble crater
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There need to be enough players to actually find matches though

formal hill
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1 extra difficulty it'd still happen

quartz barn
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wait i have an idea

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new difficulty would just be the broken ai director one

formal hill
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There are a good few player who find auric Maelstrom a cake walk

quartz barn
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from a few months ago

rich spindle
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Currently a team of competent players stomps most auric maelstroms too easily

mental grail
ornate hamlet
# formal hill Don knows what I mean about reds

red weapons eh werent really all that important. if they just tightened up crafting so the lowest you got at lvl 30 was 360 to 380 stat power (like vt2) you would get similar results without adding a gambling system for red weapons... they kinda sucked

formal hill
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True, Auric mael is pretty easy, your worst enemy is teamates

formal hill
rich spindle
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If everyone is about ~400 hours gameplay skill level auric maelstrom is a guaranteed win

formal hill
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Unfortunately, time played doesn't equal skilled player

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Boy have I learned that playing AM

rich spindle
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Lol. I saw that a few times

mental grail
ornate hamlet
formal hill
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Once they add a weapon tier that can actually get 100's in stats (probably coming with crafting rework I reckon) then it'd be a good time to add a total new difficulty above damntion, call it Execution or Penance or something edgy

ornate hamlet
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though imagine some one with a 0% mobility weapon because they pumped everything up to 100%

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oh that would be funny

mental grail
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call it "redemption" difficulty thumbsup_ogryn

paper lily
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an intelligent person would just have a 2nd weapon with 100% mobility

formal hill
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Unless you have this, God tier

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Poggers

ornate hamlet
mental grail
formal hill
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God I wish I have a 0%

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I'd play AM for the meme just to get posted on reddit

upper galleon
formal hill
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The guy with 2k levels is either going to be extremely good or laughably bad

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I've met more who are bad than good tbh

ornate hamlet
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the common indicator is plasteel picked up

rich spindle
ornate hamlet
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auric can be ran by chimps

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playing on controller

formal hill
formal hill
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That's quite hard and a good challenge for everyone

ornate hamlet
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generally because plasteel is all over the map and your normal game ppl just leroy jankins through levels, my point was generally the people picking up plasteel usually know what their doing

rich spindle
#

True

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Bladerunner test about the turtle on its back but its large plasteel on a side path

formal hill
#

It depends tbh, if you're in Auric Maelstrom looting every box a mile behind the team, I usually assume you have 0 awareness

#

Picking up plasteel in sight is one thing, that's another

rich spindle
#

Good players know how to plasteel hunt without putting themselves in danger

#

I think is the point

formal hill
#

Oh dog ill slide passed a crusher overhead to scoop a small plasteel cache, don't get me wrong

ornate hamlet
#

oh no hes right, i generally care less about my team as well, timmy who triggered the monster, jimmy who angered the demon host and bill who died to the bruisers

formal hill
#

Tbh the best sign of a good player

#

Is someone who waits for you before a drop down

ornate hamlet
#

yeah

rich spindle
#

❤️

formal hill
#

That's usually a player who's aware of team safety

ornate hamlet
#

they understand atleast what could happen

formal hill
#

Willing to try and help too

ornate hamlet
#

yeah i do that, though im out of coherency quite a bit

rich spindle
#

For me if its I see them ledge boost

ornate hamlet
#

as a psyker too

formal hill
#

I pretty much always wait unless something unfortunate happens

dusk stump
#

Ledge boost?

formal hill
#

Also ability awareness, if a vet uses VoC on a single mauler

#

Usually not the best

rocky yarrow
ornate hamlet
#

why not

formal hill
#

Because a boss might trigger 20 feet ahead

ornate hamlet
#

ok wait 5 seconds

#

its back

formal hill
#

I know your meme but you get the idea KEKW_ogryn

dusk stump
#

What is a ledge boost?

formal hill
#

When you boost off a lodge

#

Ledge

ornate hamlet
#

yeah i get what you mean, but also at the same time its not to much a big deal, abilities need longer cds

#

or some type of cost

dusk stump
#

:/

formal hill
#

The games are longer than VT but have a quarter of ability CD

#

Granted, the abilities do less

#

Generally, not always

#

But shout merc has a 2 minute CD if I remember correctly

ornate hamlet
#

stuff like kill a specialist or elite and get 5% cd reduced is way to common aswell

formal hill
#

It should be either or imo

#

Short CD or CD refund on kill

ornate hamlet
#

they got both

#

so spamming f is common

#

and boring

formal hill
#

Pretty much all classes are like that

#

But you don't have an "Outcast Engineer" glugger with a heavy bolter

#

In some ways I'd like that tbh

#

Sounds fun

ornate hamlet
#

heavy bolter ogryn oh that would be phenomenally op

#

and just hilarious

formal hill
#

That's why it needs to be tied to a CD lmao

#

Can you imagine how fun it would be though

ornate hamlet
#

give it to zealot, its single shot and shooting it downs him

formal hill
#

Particularly strong humans even in lore can wield astartes weapons

ornate hamlet
#

yeah but thats a big boi weapon

formal hill
#

I mean our guys are literal string beans for being in melee combat everyday

ornate hamlet
#

not just a bolter

#

a heavy bolter

formal hill
ornate hamlet
#

O..o catachan just built different

formal hill
#

So are Ogryn too, especially bone'aeds

ornate hamlet
#

yeah they can count to 3

formal hill
#

Honestly, it allows FS to add weapons that would literally sell copies themselves

formal hill
#

Especially when they know how to reload it KEKW_ogryn

#

And know not to beat something with it

rich spindle
ornate hamlet
#

i thought bone'eads where just smarter due to the implant

#

which yes enhances combat

rich spindle
#

Based on how far your weapons dodge distance/speed is

dusk stump
#

Thank you

formal hill
#

Well it's entirely designed to enhance combat abilities in combat, reflexes, memory, and in some part agility

#

Just because they're more aware of themselves

ornate hamlet
#

hmm all i know is big boi now counts to 3 and can say his name

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and reloads better

#

smarter than my little sister for sure

formal hill
#

Well think of it from the point if the imperium, would you focus on enhancing their brain in terms of combat and counting to 5 is just a side product? Or would you want them to be able to do math

#

Minimum possible effort for most returns

#

There's not much you have to do to an Ogryn to make him a better killing machine

ornate hamlet
#

did the current emperium create it or was it an old piece of tech

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given its the emperium i assumed the ladder

formal hill
#

I don't recall if it was ever stated honestly, but improving the mind of someone is pretty common in 40k and doing so in the ways you want to would be easy too

#

I mean, think about it, the more an Ogryn can think about things the more of a chance he wouldn't be loyal

ornate hamlet
#

yeah if its old tech i genuinly might of been something just to make a labour force better

#

kinda like the knights

formal hill
#

Really you'd just want him to have better reflexes, be able to remember orders, be smarter about engagements and be able to use heavy weapons without destroying them

ornate hamlet
#

yeah an ogryn that can operate a drill

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build a house

#

sure

#

save manpower

mental grail
formal hill
#

So in my mind, Ogryn are essentially combat savants, like clearly, they are much better at the nuances of combat than a toddler, but evolutionary pressure just didn't need certain parts of function, like mathematical ability or even speech

#

So I genuinely see it as a form of savantism KEKW_ogryn

#

This is also the imperium looking at Ogryn too, which are abumans so they kinda have disdain for them

#

Which is why you have wildly different reports about them

ornate hamlet
#

ok well that enough 40k, depressing enough setting... back to fantasy for karl franz campaign #4 million

formal hill
#

King Leon I imagine for

#

Considering the Bretonian knight

ornate hamlet
#

actually prefer the fae enchantress

#

those grail gaurdians

#

wow

hearty dagger
#

I like how with Ogryns they don't have the whole dehumanization procedure since Ogryns are already loyal to the emperor

#

To the point that traitor ogryns are told that the loyalists are the actual traitors

marble crater
#

Ogryns are so nice, unless they are mid overhead strike

cinder moon
ornate hamlet
ornate hamlet
#

By order of the Grand Theoginist show no mercy!

#

shouts that almost every battle now

#

thrones of decay is amazing

formal hill
#

I miss the quest battle dialog

ornate hamlet
#

great update

formal hill
#

His voice actor kills it tbh

ornate hamlet
#

yeah

#

he does

ornate hamlet
#

look at my profile pic

formal hill
#

Too bad they ended it for space marines KEKW_ogryn

#

Sorry ahem, sigmarines

untold niche
ornate hamlet
#

the old world is coming

untold niche
#

Ahhh

#

I only know they stronk but don't know the lote

#

Lore

formal hill
#

Yeah they strong alright

untold niche
#

I'm a normie so I like skaven

#

🐭

ornate hamlet
#

they are warriors from brettonnia specifically stronk against chaos (well until the end)

#

but they stronk

formal hill
#

Grail knights are essentially knights from 40k

ornate hamlet
#

and their government sucks

formal hill
#

It's what they got transfered too

untold niche
ornate hamlet
#

its brettonnia

upper galleon
#

Peasants

#

French

ornate hamlet
#

stange women handing out swords in a pond is no system of government

upper galleon
#

Misogynistic

formal hill
#

You could day fuedalism but all of 40k and fantasy is fuedalism KEKW_ogryn

#

Feudalism*

marble crater
ornate hamlet
#

but yes

buoyant maple
ornate hamlet
formal hill
#

The vast majority of humans in 40k live pretty decent lives, you only hear about the terrible shit because that's what we want to read about

#

It's like the news

#

Even Dan Abnett said it was mostly like earth, other than the Tithe

#

Until it's not

#

Actually I'm pretty sure he said something closer to, it's mostly okay

marble crater
#

I don't know "Things are okay until we all die" is not really reassuring

formal hill
#

You can look at real life like that too

upper galleon
#

Earth is not good for the vast majority

buoyant maple
#

Isn’t Terra in 40k like turbo messed up lol

formal hill
#

Yes

#

One of the worst planets to be on

cinder moon
#

savant has a voice line about how going to see earth wouldn’t be good for them or their siblings

upper galleon
#

Just being on discord probably puts you on throneside level

upper galleon
formal hill
#

But yeah, I'd rather be literally anywhere on earth rather than next to the Maelstrom, in the Maelstrom, or all that tbh

#

I'd prefer active volcano

ornate hamlet
#

i'd perfer not to live in 40k

fluid skiff
#

just did a sedition misson for grimoires and the other grimoire holder destroyed theirs just before the mission ended fml

ornate hamlet
#

ahh i mean rip

#

those people suck

formal hill
#

Being a custodian sounds kinda rad

fluid skiff
#

it's fine, they probably didn't know better, they looked like a newer player

formal hill
#

Or a princep

ornate hamlet
formal hill
#

Statistically likely

#

But

#

There's a chance

ornate hamlet
#

no but

#

the chance is so low

upper galleon
#

I want a 40k gundamish anime following a young knight in training

formal hill
#

So you're saying there's a chance

ornate hamlet
#

real life lottery is safe by comparison

upper galleon
#

And have the main character exposed to the horrors

formal hill
#

99.9999% of gamblers quit before they win big

ornate hamlet
formal hill
fluid skiff
formal hill
#

Depends if you're on a fringe world or not

#

Being a princeps for an imperator class titan would also be rad

#

Even if I did go crazy

#

The masculine urge to fight an Ork Waaagh with your brothers in arms

ornate hamlet
#

throd are you sure you wouldnt just be happy being an ork

mental grail
mental grail
#

Life in 40K is decent if you consider not getting turned to a living carpet by dark eldar decent.

formal hill
#

Dark Eldar aren't everywhere either

mental grail
#

Criticize the emperor literally once and you will be tortured to death if you're lucky

formal hill
#

So you mean like real life with any religion in history

mental grail
#

No absolutely not

ornate hamlet
#

yes

#

to the extreme

mental grail
#

I can criticize the president and not be fucking tortured to death

formal hill
#

I dunno dog, some authors literally said, majority of it isn't that bad

ornate hamlet
formal hill
#

The president is your religion tho?

ornate hamlet
#

i wouldnt try it in north korea

mental grail
#

I would not consider north korea decent life at all

ornate hamlet
#

neither would i

formal hill
#

Decent is very subjective though keep in mind, especially when you're referencing 40k in the same sentence

mental grail
#

You can't criticize your ruler without also criticizing your god, which warrants extreme punishment in the best of cases.

ornate hamlet
#

no seperation of church and state

#

no freedom of speech

#

you will be drafted

#

no workers rights

formal hill
#

I think you're also looking at this far too literally and from a current lens. The god emperor literally stops the entirety of humanity from the worst things imaginable happening everyday for 10s of thousands of years

#

And in 40k sense, it's literal, actually happening

mental grail
#

The vast majority of people live in overcrowded hive cities ruled by people who don't care about them. And see them only as expendable cogs in the grand machine that churns out meat to fight hoards of aliens, demons, and flesh eating monsters.

ornate hamlet
#

he stop the worst things that he also caused

#

i love big E

#

good guy

wind spruce
formal hill
#

Putting your head into the lore of 40k and understanding that it's all necessary even if you don't want to do it is what makes it good

ornate hamlet
#

bad results

formal hill
mental grail
formal hill
#

Causing the war in heaven

cinder moon
ornate hamlet
#

oh the necrons are for sure the cause of truely everything

formal hill
#

Clearly the vast majority live lives good enough to keep it going

mental grail
mental grail
ornate hamlet
#

but the emperium suffers alot because of stuff big e did, the primarks are a good example, very few of them where decent and now half of them destroy the emperium on the daily, because hes a bad dad.

formal hill
#

Which 40k is a copy of to be fair

#

Imo, noble bright 30k had infinitely more interesting lore than 40k, because grimdark isn't grimdark without hope.

ornate hamlet
#

grimdark sucks if the end is predetermined

#

man i would fall to tzeench

formal hill
#

That's why everyone hated the end times in Fantasy, it was shit because they knew an end they wanted and forced it

mental grail
#

Dune is pretty bad but the dark eldar in 40k tortured a space marine by ripping his skin off, tearing his nervous system out while keeping it intact. So he's able to feel every bit of pain yet is unable to escape it forever.

formal hill
#

Yeah I mean everyone wants to Wax the dark Eldar

#

They exist to be dicks and for no other reason

#

Imo, dark Eldar push on the edges of grimderp

#

Like there's only so many ways to skin a cat

#

What I mean by that is they try to 1 up it everytime and it just is the same thing over and over

mental grail
#

Oh, and the dark eldar can just bring him back to life. So they can Torture him to death all over again. And they find that very fun and enjoyable and need it to live.

And the Imperium is unable to stop this because it's so large that sometimes dark elder can just abduct the entire population of planets without imperial knowledge.

#

Like you cannot imagine my shock and horror when I first learned this. It's legitimately horrifying. KEKW_ogryn KEKW_ogryn

formal hill
#

I forget which but in a Luetin video he directly references an official author who explained the "everything else" in 40k, which he said most planets are at a similar tech level of earth and are comparably safe, even in 40k, and you only read about these things hundreds if not thousands of years apart, and most humans ever won't experience the true horrors of the galaxy and live lives with upward momentum and pretty happy living conditions unlike hive cities

#

I'll trust that guy tho, he gets paid by GW

#

Also, now headcanon is just as valid as regular writing for some reason, and that was by design

mental grail
#

They say that but every single planet they've shown is incredibly dystopian. Like a legitimate punishment is being turned into a robot slave until you die or fall apart.

Also I'm not sure that still applies, considering the great rift that ripped the galaxy in half. Also, black library authors are incredibly inconsistent with the general living conditions of the imperium.

formal hill
#

Every planet they've shown there's literally millions, and quintillions of people

plucky flax
#

Lutin sleeping club. Bedge

formal hill
#

That's the point though, because the lore isn't objective, it's always a subjective point of view from an observer who can only speak of their experiences

vestal fulcrum
#

I have never had so many resources whatthefuck_heresy

mental grail
#

how the fuck do you get 80k plasteel

cinder moon
#

don't play the crafting slot machines

vestal fulcrum
#

this isn't bragging by the way, I'm genuinely surprised with myself that I'm spending so little

formal hill
#

Let me go screenshot my resources chadgryn

#

Gotta flex on em

vestal fulcrum
mental grail
#

I'm gonna follow your example

formal hill
#

Just don't craft anything ever

#

It's what I do

#

Gear doesn't make you a better player and all that

mental grail
#

How do you get good weapons then?

formal hill
#

I'll craft one thing I'll use one each class

#

I did that back in beta/shortly after

#

Still use the same shit just about

mental grail
#

Having a god-rolled void staff does make the game easier

formal hill
#

I like self improvement, so I don't like easy

mental grail
#

based

formal hill
#

Easier means I learn less about what I do wrong

rigid sky
#

Even a decent void tbh

#

Mine is 70 damage

formal hill
#

It's why I only use weapons with under 10 damage chadgryn

rigid sky
#

Still great

formal hill
#

Yeah it's stagger is crazy no matter what

lyric burrow
formal hill
#

That's true, I enjoy what I have an use it

rigid sky
#

Mine still randomly oneshots crushers

plucky flax
#

Hrm lemme check mine.

rigid sky
#

What more do you want in a weapon

lyric burrow
#

Thats what i did at least, get a good roll of everything and then just save up

formal hill
#

Waiting for someone to MS Paint 40 million plasteel

plucky flax
#

14.5m gold
233k melk money
111k plasteels
117k diamantines

formal hill
#

Sedition gang on top

ornate hamlet
#

and an addiction to tide

lyric burrow
#

Thats very similar to me orher than melk money

#

I have much less melk money

formal hill
#

I've never spent 1 milk token

#

He always has hot ass when I look

plucky flax
#

Melk never sell me the good shits.

lyric burrow
#

I just didnt pay attention to contracts

wet belfry
cinder moon
#

you buy melk stuff just to rip blessings

#

also curios

formal hill
#

I get bad blessings on milk toys

plucky flax
#

And I got all the blessings already so I can't even buy stuff from him to extract.

wet belfry
#

Ive already built basically every weapon in the game

formal hill
#

Emperors gifts give me the blessings I need

lyric burrow
#

Yeah i no longer have blessings to rip really

ornate hamlet
#

melk is a scam

formal hill
ornate hamlet
#

feed him to ogryn

plucky flax
#

I played cp2077 recently.

cinder moon
#

2077 doesn't count

mental grail
lethal lagoon
mental grail
#

Not even 2 yet lol

plucky flax
#

No. staregryn

#

We are a first world country PSN would never.

lethal lagoon
#

Online play for ghosts is super fun btw.

plucky flax
#

I am only interested in single player.

lethal lagoon
#

Did you ever play mass effect 3 online?

#

It's like that without the pay to win

formal hill
#

UK might be first world but London isn't let's be real

#

Or Birmingham

plucky flax
#

Yeah I did actually. On the old ps3.

cinder moon
#

save a life, bin your knife

formal hill
#

Mainly London smells very bad

plucky flax
#

I liked the stealth class and the vanguard for the charge.

lethal lagoon
#

I loved that shit, it went so hard for no reason

#

Vanguard all three games

plucky flax
#

I think it was the geth with stealth?

#

And sniper.

#

I used to be so good on controller.

cinder moon
#

i liked going biotic simply for ammo economy

#

but i never played me3

plucky flax
#

I still play some games with controller like action rpg (souls/ass creed, and will do with ghost). Also racing game like fh5.

lethal lagoon
#

People who play and beat souls games with keyboard make me uncomfertable

#

😨

plucky flax
#

Totally not a weeb livery honda civic. whatthefuck_heresy

mental grail
#

I go biotic because caster/mage is my class in like every game

formal hill
#

Honda civic is self report for being an asshole

lyric burrow
#

I havent had to roll stuff in quite a while

lethal lagoon
#

In 3 you could just spam magic with vanguard, no need for any weapons

plucky flax
#

Yeah single player me3 vanguard was so op.

#

Just charge at enemies and make explosion.

#

The skills combo in 3 is so much more polished than 2.

lethal lagoon
#

2 vanguard was high skill high rewards(on highest diff anyways)

#

But 3 was just

plucky flax
#

It's like trauma gaming. The explosion sound. Pogryn

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
#

I never tried andromeda though.

lethal lagoon
#

Same

plucky flax
#

I watched gameplay and I saw open world similar to da inquistion then I slept.

#

DA1 was so good too.

lethal lagoon
#

I never finished inquistion, tried twice and got pretty close

plucky flax
#

I couldn't get pass the tutorial of inquisition when they made me gather resources.

#

I'm like bruh I am not playing a shitty single player mmo clone.

#

But now all the 3rd person action game make you gather resources like ac and stuff.

lethal lagoon
#

Necromancer literally still bugged

mental grail
#

inquisition pisses me off with how human focused it is

#

I switch from being human only late in development and you can tell by how next to no one gives a shit what race you are

cinder moon
plucky flax
#

Don't worry I don't drive a hatchback irl.

cinder moon
#

no astra diesel?

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
#

I actually got tailgated by 2 goons a couple weeks ago. They looked about 12 and were giving me shades.

#

They drove a fiesta. KEKW

cinder moon
#

shades like venetian blinds? how kind

lethal lagoon
#

A ford fiesta? Fords outside of the U.S are confusing to me

plucky flax
#

It's a shitty ford hatchback for people who can't afford focus.

cinder moon
#

fiesta exists in the US

lethal lagoon
#

No I know, I just can't believe anyone other than rednecks buys ford cars

plucky flax
#

Ford is very popular here.

cinder moon
#

usually only seen as rentals, fleet vehicles, or for people who wanted a suzuki but couldn't find the dealership

lethal lagoon
#

Is it really? Huh.

plucky flax
#

I think there's a factory here that's why.

#

So the cost is cheap.

cinder moon
#

english ford is basically their own thing

plucky flax
#

Ford in UK is only hatchback and crossovers.

#

I hate hatchback and crossovers. They look so ugly.

#

If I want an SUV I'd get a proper one.

#

Not a lifted hatch.

lethal lagoon
#

SUVs are so overpriced

plucky flax
#

They are all the same car. Same chassis I bet. kekPog

cinder moon
#

wagons are the best

#

as much or more interior space than SUVs, better road handling and fuel economy

plucky flax
#

Yeah I like estate.

#

Shame it's a dying breed.

#

I'd get a corolla estate.

plucky flax
formal hill
#

You guys can have your good economy, I'm an American through and through, give me my 69 429 Boss with a 577 stroker

cinder moon
#

volvo is like the last manufacturer i'm aware of still making wagons. buick had a relatively modern one that was a badge engineered opel, looked pretty cool but had lackluster powerplant and was only fwd for some stupid reason

plucky flax
#

Wagon? German brands still make it.

cinder moon
#

good luck getting them in the US

formal hill
#

I see them all the time

cinder moon
#

audi refuses to import performance wagons

formal hill
#

Granted I'm a mechanic

#

Usually older

cinder moon
#

merc still does to some degree

#

bmw stopped making anything worth buying like 15 years ago

plucky flax
#

Really? I thought bmw is the best current german brand.

#

Yeah they are ugly (the grills man puke )

cinder moon
#

if you want a car that looks like a bucktooth tumor

plucky flax
#

But I think they are more reliable.

formal hill
#

BMW quality control has gone downhill in their cars from my experience

#

Lotta planned obsolescence

cinder moon
#

wanna pay a subscription for heated seats? bmw's got you

plucky flax
#

I'm planning to stick with japanesse though. Toyota/Lexus.

formal hill
#

It's job security for me, but they are making harder to work on them so you have to go back to BMW dealers

cinder moon
#

i'm never buying a car made after 2015

#

fuck these new pieces of shit

formal hill
formal hill
#

Truck is older than me

cinder moon
#

you didn't need to say that

#

now i feel old

formal hill
#

I'm 25

#

Lmaoooo

mental grail
#

83k maelstrom mission just popped up lul

mental grail
formal hill
#

As a large and tall man, I actually like the new bronco interior

#

Engine is literally anemic without a turbo

#

But it's roomy

plucky flax
#

I'd drive a big SUV if I was american.

#

UK road is simply too smol for the big bois cars.

#

I really dig the new lexus gx man.

#

It looks so good.

formal hill
#

Tbh you'd care more about gas mileage if you were American

plucky flax
#

No it's cheap in america.

formal hill
#

America is really big with far drives

#

Depends on the state

plucky flax
#

UK 's gas price is one of the most expensive in the world.

formal hill
#

And how close refineries are

plucky flax
#

Maybe if you're in alaska.

#

I would never live in alaska. SadgeCry

#

Too cold in winter.

formal hill
#

Alaska is decently cheap if you live in Anchorage

#

Actually very low personal taxes

#

4.9%

#

Plus they give land to you free in some cases

plucky flax
#

I watch outdoor boys youtube channel.

#

Very based alaskan man.

formal hill
#

Anyone who lives in Alaska lives there for a reason

#

Speaking of being American I'm going to buy a new gun today

#

Figured that would land better KEKW_ogryn

mental grail
formal hill
#

I'll go do it rn monitor off

#

NO balls

mental grail
#

you can't dare me like that

formal hill
#

I'm on rn

mental grail
#

fuck you lul

formal hill
#

Join me no balls

#

No balls

mental grail
#

youre an asshole (ok)

formal hill
#

2457548401

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friend code

formal hill
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German guns pog

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I like Heckler and Koch

cinder moon
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i impulse bought a mk23 a few years ago, no ragrets

mental grail
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I'm going to die

plucky flax
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I like gucci glocks man.

formal hill
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I actually am more traditional when it comes to handguns I just bought a S&W 329 Airlite PD chambered in 44 mag

upper sun
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44 is bad 😦

formal hill
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I wanted a 454 Casull but they didnt have one

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plus ammo expensive rn

lethal lagoon
formal hill
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in my diet?

lethal lagoon
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Leading to your house kek

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What do you use for internet?

formal hill
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no I don't small town

lethal lagoon
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I've always wanted to live in alaska as a kid, but limited internet options(or what I thought was limited options) always scared me off the idea

formal hill
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Anchorage is a major city and a shipping hub of the world

wet belfry
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I doubt there would be much work in alaska

formal hill
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There's a lot tbh

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you aren't working like retail if thats what you think

mental grail
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lol

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And my game crashed

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Lmfao

lethal lagoon
formal hill
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Dartkide experience

lethal lagoon
formal hill
formal hill
mental grail
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Did I? Sweet KEKW_ogryn

formal hill
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double the Ogryn

mental grail
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I crashed back to home

formal hill
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I'll wait for ya

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I'm getting like 20 fps

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gotta love the shaders

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not compiling