#psyker-class

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candid dawn
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what are good pairings with surge staff

lethal lagoon
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Illsi

untold niche
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Man psyker builds are really borjng

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Not much nuance

spice veldt
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gib warp glock

untold niche
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Dual wield glock

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The psyjer reloads the magazine telepathically

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Each time you reload peril cosy for reload increases by 1%

lethal lagoon
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Too much point investment.

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Esp in a tree where all you get is quell spd, which is never needed.

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Alternatively both warp rider and true aim are needed for some builds

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Well warp rider for every build, but you get what I mean

placid sorrel
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warp body pillows

potent echo
upper sun
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emperor can look like anyone so just get any body pillow

placid sorrel
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gets papa nurgle body pillow

potent echo
rigid sky
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Yeah, Warp siphon sucks tbh

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So many points

upper sun
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warp siphon too fat pls shrink

rigid sky
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With marginal shit leading to it

upper sun
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better yet just let me get the fucking +2 node thats it

rigid sky
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Build the damage node into point 1

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Maybe even the 6 charge cap

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And make the other points two pairs of mutual exclusives coming from that

potent echo
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Psyker and zealot trees need a lil trimming

rigid sky
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Psyker's fine apart from that imo

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I love the psyker tree

potent echo
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I just want agile engagement on psyker

rigid sky
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Warp charges are just ew though

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What gets me more though is people who go out of their way to take warp charges but then don't wanna use their ability because they think the keystone is all about the damage mod

upper sun
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time to start a thread bitching about warp siphon in the forums

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pls bump

rigid sky
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It's like buying an ice cream with a flake to just eat the flake and throw away the ice cream

rigid sky
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They're just cosplaying the old style

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Because they're too stupid or stubborn or both to read tooltips and integrate it

plucky flax
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Condense all current warp charge nodes into 3 points. whatthefuck_heresy

cosmic sigil
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@plucky flax I made that build on a whim. And I put toughness Regen, Stam Regen and sprint efficiency on my curios. And it was soooo fun. The mobs couldn't just understand how I was zooming so fast around them

plucky flax
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What weapon?

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Not knife?

cosmic sigil
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I wanted something I am good with. So a rashad

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And a bolter

plucky flax
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Is the cdr on backstab needed?

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Could put that into 20% unyielding damage.

cosmic sigil
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I should try but I like my CDR... Probably because I usually run a BP build that abuse it

rigid sky
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I feel like I'd rather drop the other point

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I question choosing Loner over the TDR aura there though

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Seems like a big point tax

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For a downgrade

cosmic sigil
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Swift? Yeah I should try without

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Well actually, it was not really a downgrade imo

rigid sky
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Just since you have Holy revenant already

cosmic sigil
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There's some Dr nodes on the way

rigid sky
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And you take FotF after

upper sun
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WS too fat 😦

rigid sky
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12 Warp charges

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Can you imagine siblings

cosmic sigil
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That's what I am used too. But honestly that's not really something that really matters

upper sun
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also i hate the peril gen node

plucky flax
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Loner best aura.

rigid sky
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I don't hate loner for the record

plucky flax
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But if you are pathing chastise it's a bit points inefficiency that way indeed.

upper sun
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like if im used to surge generating some peril and it gets reduced a lot it messes up my quelling

cosmic sigil
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The reason I took it was to have an opportunity to use tg Regen curios

rigid sky
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A pretty decent one too

cosmic sigil
plucky flax
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Then might as well go stealth. SadgeCry

upper sun
plucky flax
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Then it frees up some points to take 10% attack speed.

potent echo
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Loner is only good because zealots are the class that don't have unfair toughness Regen talents KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
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the first one from the left

plucky flax
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That node is very good for combat axe.

rigid sky
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10% attack speed for starters

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You never don't want that

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Ewew

cosmic sigil
potent echo
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Nah even on a knife I felt the difference

plucky flax
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Also I really like weakspot stagger for combat axe.

potent echo
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When not running atkspeed

rigid sky
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Other luxury stuff too

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Like shield of convictio

cosmic sigil
tired estuary
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attack speed has always been a v bloated stat in tide games besides power by its nature and its v easy to nab

rigid sky
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I mean you do you, obviously

tired estuary
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(but sometimes I don't take it b/c tendinitis lmao)

rigid sky
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It just feels like you're taxing points unnecessarily

cosmic sigil
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i have made some choices knowing that some points could be put elsewhere

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i did not take duellist for one

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but well, i can live without

rigid sky
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Duelist, idk if I would bother with it on combat axe

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It's great but yeah

cosmic sigil
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sorry wrong reply

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it does funny dmg when it proces with cavalcade during chastise

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but well, not that reliable on a non bp build and caxe too

plucky flax
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My funny ogryn vid has surprisingly more comments than others. People like rocks. pogryn

potent echo
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People don't care about scoreboard or gameplay KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
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Based Skudie. PeepoLove

cosmic sigil
tired estuary
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duelist isn't an insignificant amt of dmg on caxe but idk if its gonna meaningfully reach bps besides bruiser 1taps if you got a crusty one

cosmic sigil
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i lose benediction and 1 point to get 1 stam and 5 dr

potent echo
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What's the finesse multiplier on caxes, like 1.4?

cosmic sigil
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and loner

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and i ma ok with that

spice veldt
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~1.7x

cosmic sigil
potent echo
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Nah I meant the adm numbers

spice veldt
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the "power" in that stat card multiplies with another unlisted value so that can't be trusted

potent echo
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Those aren't in-game because

cosmic sigil
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ok

plucky flax
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Nice you have a pretty high finesse one.

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Low finesse rashad is so freaking slow.

rigid sky
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I'm still stuck with an antax on my veteran

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It feels fucking awful

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And it's a good roll too

plucky flax
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Why antax is good too.

rigid sky
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Slow ass shit

spice veldt
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so duellist for a weakspot is like 1.2x relatively more damage

rigid sky
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It's OK if you don't have a rashad

plucky flax
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Antax is like 73% finesse rashad or something.

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It's just the heavy is a lot slower.

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But the push attack is so much better.

rigid sky
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OK maybe I just don't like combat axes then

cosmic sigil
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on a light

plucky flax
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You trade off push attack for heavy.

rigid sky
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Maybe that's the issue

tired estuary
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its okay to not like caxe

spice veldt
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antax is 50% finessse

rigid sky
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I wanted a generalist weapon for my weapon spec

plucky flax
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Hrm damn antax feels way faster than a low finesse rashad.

rigid sky
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I ended up going back to cleave spec assault chainsword 4

cosmic sigil
plucky flax
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I like antax on momentum combat axe build actually.

cosmic sigil
plucky flax
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For the much better horde clear and safety with push attack.

rigid sky
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Especially since I can rev it in stealth

tired estuary
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I use og shovel with weapon specs mostly b/c its got better lights than other marks

rigid sky
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The rev attack is strong enough to kill anything smaller than a mauler in 1

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And my revolver is strong enough to kill anything

tired estuary
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chainweapons for the stealth takedown is really funny

potent echo
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Yea double-checked caxes have around 1.7 times more damage on crits

plucky flax
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What I run with antax kantrael shotgun

tired estuary
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I was livid when I realized I wasn't getting credit for chaxe infil kills on zealot penance

potent echo
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So duellist actually gives 0.35 times more damage which is cool

tired estuary
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b/c after special hits you're "out" of stealth

potent echo
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If you hit as you are entering stealth it also counts afaik

sacred crane
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Is DD bugged rn? Its not giving me any DD stacks when I kill a marked enemy

tired estuary
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the UI is bugged

potent echo
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The UI seems to be bugged

lethal lagoon
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Remember it's the difference

sacred crane
lethal lagoon
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So it's .175 more damage

potent echo
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Duellist is 50% more finesse damage isn't it

plucky flax
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Guys I'm playing malice so hopefully people won't die.

placid sorrel
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it's ok

plucky flax
spice veldt
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it's 1.2x relatively more damage on weakspots/crits

potent echo
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Thanks math

rigid sky
cosmic sigil
plucky flax
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Wut everyone in this malice game is above 30.

lethal lagoon
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They pretty much always are

cosmic sigil
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i should probably make my zealot a revchord then

lethal lagoon
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You get queued by level unless the playerbase is dead

upper sun
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if you start a new char and jump straight into malice you wont see anyone levle 30 for a while

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which is what makes levelling hell in this game

potent echo
lethal lagoon
# plucky flax Wut everyone in this malice game is above 30.

I play mostly support/tank builds. Like the smite Psyker+shield to stagger the enemies and the tank ogryn to pull aggro and hold them on me. So my damage output ist not my priority. I also like to play the Zealot to on support with chorus ability. But damn out of 3 people are to stupid to play their class in a efficent manner. Im so tired of thi...

lethal lagoon
potent echo
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I made a new character and I only got matched with lower level players

upper sun
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no talents no weapons no teammates no money no plasteel no dimantine no friends no dockets 😭

potent echo
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No maidens

upper sun
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how the hell did i make it through levelling 5 chars

potent echo
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5?

upper sun
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ye

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two zealots

lethal lagoon
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Can you imagine leveling a new char and being stuck with people who run malice at 30+?

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🤢

upper sun
lethal lagoon
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Chaos spawn at low lvls on seditation/malice uniroincally goes hard

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Like it's a wipe

potent echo
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The jump from 2 to 3 is quite big

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If your weapons aren't, masosi isnt going home with you

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
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It's 100% real

upper sun
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get the 8 char mod and try

lethal lagoon
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I've leveled enough characters that it's never been proven wrong

upper sun
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the game doesnt want you to get carried

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you will suffer

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you will not have fun

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until you hit 30

lethal lagoon
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you will sufferenjoy yourself

potent echo
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I carried a few level 20s as level1 KEKW_ogryn

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Don't even have a proper grenade yet

upper sun
lethal lagoon
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I don't want to play with 30s stuck in malice while leveling a char, I'm surprised you do.

upper sun
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since helbore melee scales wrong

plucky flax
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WEird

upper sun
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helbore melee at lower levels is the best melee you can have

plucky flax
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Bro the lvl 39 died in malice.

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Wtf is this

lethal lagoon
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Clad's dream leveling experience

upper sun
plucky flax
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I need 2more missions no one die for contract nooooo

upper sun
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quickplay +3x XP curios and i leave missions if they dont put me in 40% of the way through the mission

lethal lagoon
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Normal damns is better for that contract

upper sun
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thats how i do it

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barrels included

plucky flax
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I tried normal yesterday. Played like 5 rounds and only progressed 1.

potent echo
plucky flax
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People play the sussiest when I'm on ogryn.

lethal lagoon
upper sun
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do you want me to carry you through sedation i know it can be hard

spice veldt
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sussy wussy

ionic frost
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i left right after

spice veldt
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i'm tempted to say something else terrible but i will refrain

potent echo
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Pee

upper sun
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ive been lucky i only got the 3/1 no deaths weekly

upper sun
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once i got 6 no deaths after spending like 100k rerolling

ionic frost
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i'll reroll any other than the 1.

upper sun
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i went with it it was hell

plucky flax
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I rerolled that contract so many times but it's the other super hard stuff.

upper sun
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finished 8 missions before it

plucky flax
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I'm at 50k reroll for it.

ionic frost
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3 can be hit or miss

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ouch

cosmic sigil
ionic frost
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i used to be picky about ranged/melee...now idc

upper sun
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i do 8 missions/no deaths/dimantine/plasteel/monsters i usually get all by playing like 4 malice 4 sedation

ionic frost
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won't do X missions, grims/scripts, or no deaths over 1

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i only play auric

potent echo
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8 missions seems close to 1000 kills kinda

upper sun
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i dont support the game forcing me to pick melee or ranged and hunt down a type of enemy that may or may not spawn in a mission

upper sun
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but BUT

plucky flax
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Yeah it should be just kill x numbers.

potent echo
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Depends on loadout

upper sun
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you may not get scabs/dregs

plucky flax
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Like 1000 or 2000.

ionic frost
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i used to care about that...but with 110k melkbux now i just play for fun

potent echo
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Yea sometimes it's oops all dregs

upper sun
ionic frost
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i don't care if i complete the weekly any more

potent echo
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I just play enough that my weeklies get completed anyway lmao

halcyon creek
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Clever joke, you think you’re some kind of Wittgenstein

ionic frost
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mostly same here...

upper sun
hoary leaf
lethal lagoon
ionic frost
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i have 2 zealots and 2 psykers, almost done with all the new penances

potent echo
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I love ogin

ionic frost
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1 ogryn and 1 vet tho, so i'll have to play them more =D

hoary leaf
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everytime

plucky flax
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Tru I shouldn't care.

ionic frost
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knife shotgun crit zealot with infinite cleave throwing daggers is fun...

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well not truly infinite...

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carapace stops it

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if it doesn't kill them

plucky flax
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Maybe I wait for ASS lfg and join for my weekly contract chadgryn

hoary leaf
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Bloodthirsty? I dont think I have ever seen that perk before

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doesnt sound good

vestal fulcrum
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Less so on Obscurus and Deimos

potent echo
ionic frost
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congo line of 5 trappers? all dead.

lethal lagoon
near drift
ionic frost
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knives are such good special deletion...at your fingertips...or my mousewheel up.

potent echo
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Peteran

spice veldt
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me and my 12 kitchen knives

plucky flax
plucky flax
vestal fulcrum
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It’s there

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For the taking

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Technically any ability, any blitz whatthefuck_heresy

plucky flax
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Bro I just died on psyker. I got dogged with all 3 teammates within 5 metres of me and no one wanted to hit the dog once.

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Wtf

upper sun
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local man discovers heresy+

vestal fulcrum
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I died to dogs yesterday, I feel you Sitgryn

plucky flax
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Yeah but I'm literally right next to them.

upper sun
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LOCAL MAN DISCOVERS MALICE

vestal fulcrum
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I was like 20m away from a Plasma Vet Sitgryn

plucky flax
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I'm actually kind mad madge

vestal fulcrum
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The man could have shot their gun, alas, they didn’t

plucky flax
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I hope we're gonna wipe now.

upper sun
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oh nooo :((((( no loner aura to stop disablers

cinder moon
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this is now my 4th streak i've had ruined at 8-9/10

potent echo
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He gave up and ran off

spice veldt
vestal fulcrum
potent echo
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Press venting while at zero peril so no knockback at all

plucky flax
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Yes we did it. We wipe praisethesun

plucky flax
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The ogryn is malding.

upper sun
plucky flax
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Oh wait no we didn't wipe wtf 1 guy left and the bot ressed the guy.

upper sun
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HELL YEAH

candid dawn
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do i just get unarmed flak on purgatus

upper sun
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REAL MALICE

vestal fulcrum
cosmic sigil
lethal lagoon
plucky flax
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There is some intense backstabbing going on in this game.

plucky flax
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I gave up and go on psyker.

lethal lagoon
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Oh okay good

vestal fulcrum
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I have the best ideas, hire me Obese Megalodon

upper sun
marble crater
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The amount of people who res in fire is too high as well, every time I stand next to it and feel helpless I shed a tear

potent echo
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Idk how real it is to just dodge out of it

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Or is that not possible

upper sun
potent echo
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Can someone teach them about headshots or heavy attacks

marble crater
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You can dodge out, but you will still take damage, so that's only really an option if you have enough health or are close to the edge of the fire

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If you res the 3 wound psyker on his last wound he will probably just die again right away

spice veldt
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you get rezzed in it with no toughness so you can just immediately get ganked again

potent echo
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Sad

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Wounds L

plucky flax
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We won in the end somehow but at what cost? Brother turned against brother. pepeHand

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Don't mind my 'yes' I am not fuelling the fire. whatthefuck_heresy

lethal lagoon
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I would have incorrectly corrected your to "you're"

calm sapphire
marble crater
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What ability snatches frags?

plucky flax
calm sapphire
lethal lagoon
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No.

marble crater
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No

calm sapphire
plucky flax
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No. It's stealth.

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The zealot was using stealth. I guess he used it to run faster and grabbed nade.

upper sun
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based behavior

marble crater
upper sun
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i had one vet who was smokemaxxing

lethal lagoon
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Zealot runs ahead "Stop being toxic"
Zealot sticks together "Stop being toxic"

upper sun
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took all nades and smoked the hoards 24/7

marble crater
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Blame the penance

upper sun
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yeah

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i do

tired estuary
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it rules how badly that penance is designed

marble crater
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That's exactly what I did as well

calm sapphire
tired estuary
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encouraging vets to make the absolute worst build possible and use smokes in the worst way possible

upper sun
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i didnt mind we were doing great until the last section when everyone split up and died

marble crater
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Stealth and smoke in hordes, done in a few games

upper sun
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(it was my fault for hunting plasteel and the vets for hunting nades)

rich spindle
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the tac axe is so bad man

calm sapphire
tired estuary
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zealot loner/infil penances are annoying too but its different from turning the entire game into a purge vent modifier

upper sun
plucky flax
upper sun
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thats exactly what i said

plucky flax
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Try this mod might be it.

marble crater
tired estuary
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I don't mind armourbane b/c playing launch psyker made me used to people constantly wasting their time and ammo killing dudes who were already going to die

upper sun
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ogryn and vet penances legit need to have an entire digit removed from them

tired estuary
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yeah that'd be nice

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the big problem with the bad ogryn ones is mostly they just take too long

calm sapphire
tired estuary
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aside from encouraging you to waste big frag

upper sun
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like every time i try to play ogryn i feel like im wasting my team because im not doing a penance build and they take forever

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i have a theory that HANK asked the devs to make them grindy to make people play ogryn

potent echo
marble crater
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Heavy hitter also takes longer because bleed kills don't count, so better take that node off

upper sun
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it fits if the game is even advertising the ogryn guide

plucky flax
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I am never finishing ogryn penances unless they nerf it.

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It's ridiculous.

potent echo
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You gotta farm them sadly Sitgryn

upper sun
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bruh like with broken spawns how do you do half that shit

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i only got shocking stuff because agent helped

marble crater
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Or play a normal build that uses heavy hitter and get it eventually, that's what I do with shield

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I play it anyway, so just a matter of time

upper sun
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thats my normal ogryn build rock+heavy hitter

plucky flax
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Thunderous nerf sucks I'm putting skullcrusher back on my mk3 basher I think.

upper sun
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🤔 is thunderous even worth it on crusher and shield anymore

plucky flax
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It used to stack with ogryn bleed.

upper sun
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why should i go hammerfall/trauma on crusher

plucky flax
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So you hit something once and it'll be 40% brittleness.

upper sun
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damn

plucky flax
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Now you have to actually hit the thing multiple times.

fading patrol
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Bless mercantile grind
7500 ammo hurts tho

plucky flax
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And ogryn is slow af so it takes a long time to get to 40%.

vestal fulcrum
plucky flax
vestal fulcrum
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Which weapon do you mean

upper sun
lethal lagoon
upper sun
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oh shit i meant thunderstrike

plucky flax
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A lot of tdr/dr.

marble crater
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Show build so we can judge you

upper sun
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im gonna use a brutal/skullcrusher shield for ogryn tbh

vestal fulcrum
# upper sun yeah crusher for zealot and shield for ogryn

Crusher definitely needs Skullcrusher, and other impact blessing doesn’t really matter (but Hammerblow is consistent and it should allow you to knock over Nurgle-blessed enemies in the Mael modifier), and the shield really wants Bromentum and Skullcrusher

marble crater
plucky flax
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I would take box for soften them up as well. But.. Rocks. SadgeCry

upper sun
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for zealot crusher i wanna try hammerblow+trauma

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im not feeling skullcrusher too much

plucky flax
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Could go box and soften them up.

marble crater
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Zealot crusher doesn't need impact blessings

vestal fulcrum
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Because light attacks also have a super brief wind-up

plucky flax
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Would give a lot more damage with that.

upper sun
potent echo
upper sun
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hammerblow is the easiest to stack

plucky flax
potent echo
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No it's terrible

plucky flax
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You can get like 6 stacks on some dude if you stop it at them.

potent echo
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The worst

plucky flax
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Quit capping.

lethal lagoon
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What I run for mk3 facetanking

potent echo
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It used to be broken because

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It applied thunderous

lethal lagoon
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Isn't the bleed on bull rush still bugged and falls off instantly?

potent echo
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But they got rid of that

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It falls off instantly yep

plucky flax
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Let me test real fast wtf.

marble crater
plucky flax
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I'm sure it apply more stacks if you stop at it.

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
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No soften em up on mk3 kinda wild

potent echo
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Take those off bullrush

lethal lagoon
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I guess for rock memes, right?

marble crater
vestal fulcrum
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Soften’em Up is not a big deal Sitgryn

plucky flax
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I adjusted it to box and soften them up now.

potent echo
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Toughness on enemy hit is like meh since you just heavy 3 times you done

plucky flax
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I'll play rock with mk5 shovel since I can 1 shot crusher anyway.

stuck sinew
plucky flax
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Bleed doesn't fall off instantly for me from charge in meatgrinder at least.

potent echo
plucky flax
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But they seem to have fixed the multiple bleed stacks trick.

radiant frigate
potent echo
marble crater
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They have, a while ago

plucky flax
plucky flax
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Unless he really bother about kills stealing. staregryn

mental grail
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bro

plucky flax
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Which I don't think.

plucky flax
mental grail
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are tox bomber throwing fucking heads at you

potent echo
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Unless they fixed it, used to be from 6 stacks drops to 5 instantly

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Then all the way down

mental grail
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that is fucking gross and insanely metal

plucky flax
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I like slam. THe stagger 25% extra stagger on hit. staregryn

marble crater
upper sun
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you know what i fucking hate

mental grail
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what

plucky flax
upper sun
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the stagger from the impact of nades from bombers

plucky flax
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Save me 2 points.

potent echo
stuck sinew
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I feel like crunch just isn't that practical in a real game

potent echo
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No more momentum for you

upper sun
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it happened to me like 3 times its so annoying

stuck sinew
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You have to basically hold the attack for so long it auto-attacks

potent echo
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It oneshots crushers

plucky flax
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@lethal lagoon nearly ogryn basket

potent echo
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Also for bruisers oneshot brumo

upper sun
mental grail
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I hate the infinite lunge poxwalkers that somehow manage to hit me while I'm sprinting with 3 efficiency curios

plucky flax
mental grail
lethal lagoon
potent echo
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Like how rager attacks used to be before the nerf

lethal lagoon
#

Why are they on the same side? Well it's an ogryn.

mental grail
#

makes sense now I guess

upper sun
#

random poxwalker attacks are the reason i play zealot

mental grail
upper sun
#

its so fun having 20% of your health gone because of one walker you dont see

mental grail
potent echo
#

Now you can actually duel more than 2 of them at once

mental grail
#

the game spawns 300 enemies in front of you, and then spawns two poxwakers behind you to break your toughness

stuck sinew
potent echo
#

I love spawning doors

#

You cleared the rear? No you didn't

mental grail
potent echo
#

door opening sound

marble crater
#

Door make sense at least, fair enough they snuck around. But when there is no door and they spawn in thin air? Nah

potent echo
#

I swear that's the sound I hate hearing the most

#

That and two layer maps where enemies can jump up and down between freely

mental grail
potent echo
#

So you get a rain of shooters

plucky flax
potent echo
#

Everywhere

stuck sinew
#

Especially when it's a whole ass mauler patrol coming out the clown car

upper sun
#

i love that one gunner can break my toughness from 93m away

mental grail
potent echo
marble crater
lethal lagoon
#

unintrupptable heavy is really noticeable on mk3

potent echo
#

They getting those stability 10000% lasguns

upper sun
mental grail
#

the shotgunners pushing you back 17 meters in 3 seconds

plucky flax
#

I don't ever recall that being an issue.

lethal lagoon
#

It's hard to tell on mk3 cause the heavy anim is a bit weird

#

Watch your toughness regen

mental grail
potent echo
#

Even without that talent

stuck sinew
#

I remember the pre-nerf shotgunners that were basically short range snipers whatthefuck_heresy

plucky flax
#

Yeah and that's a 2 points investment.

#

I only have 1 point.

potent echo
#

Maybe if you are getting shot while at zero toughness

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
#

-15 toughness

potent echo
#

Like those pub ogryns I see

plucky flax
#

Toughness gud. SadgeCry

potent echo
#

Who unbound their crouch button

marble crater
upper sun
#

people kept talking shit to me on the forums when i spoke about ragers being undodgable and gunner range like bro play the game and tell me its not annoying

potent echo
#

They dont play the game

plucky flax
#

8% crit chance for basher? pogryn

potent echo
upper sun
lethal lagoon
plucky flax
#

I know I am taking the 5% extra damage me think.

#

Or maybe aura radius.

potent echo
#

Ok it's actually not the worst

#

I rather get bruiser

plucky flax
#

Bruiser is also 2 points nooooo

upper sun
plucky flax
#

I could remove 15% damage reduction when heavy attack.

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
#

But that seems like a lot.

potent echo
#

Just like don't get hit

lethal lagoon
#

Just do get hit

#

And then respec

potent echo
#

FNP shove gives one stack back is decent too

#

With the current changes

lethal lagoon
#

Lower your DPS and probably take damage in the process of getting stacks back

untold niche
# lethal lagoon I'd amend that warp charges do that

idk zealot build just feel like it has so much more nuance
Psyker, top part always same, bottom part green always take
blue right asusming you are not pathing assail to scrier, its literally "is this secondary of your suitable? yes/no" not even playstyle or preference

Blue left you always take if you patj middle.
All three ults have very standard selections.

Purple keystone only WC has some variation...

potent echo
#

You didn't take the fun talent

untold niche
#

wildfire?

#

yeah you always take CDR if you path middle

#

but if you are referencing wildfire

#

only take if you are purg or BT

potent echo
lethal lagoon
#

Yeah my point was warp charges had no variation

untold niche
#

oh right my bad

lethal lagoon
#

I don't understand

untold niche
#

of WC

#

meanwhile EP and DD seems to always be the same

potent echo
#

He meant the path there

untold niche
#

i thouight sometimes people take essence harvest

lethal lagoon
#

tree still looks about the same

potent echo
#

Or no?

#

Yea

untold niche
#

ya psyker builds is boring as hell

potent echo
#

Psyker variety is in weapons

lethal lagoon
#

Psyker has 5 subclasses NODDERS

potent echo
#

No other class have bowling ball or PTSD staff

lethal lagoon
#

4 staves and guns

#

EP smite and shriek is basically a subclass too

potent echo
#

True

lethal lagoon
#

Plus can main BB just fine with double shields

untold niche
#

this is purely subjective, but surge and purge are boring staves

lethal lagoon
#

Your subjective opinion is objectively wrong

potent echo
#

How about zealot flamer

lethal lagoon
#

low-key zealot flamer feels way better than Purg

untold niche
#

purge is basically psyker's version of flamer, or in other words "horde clear in form of secondary weapon"

potent echo
#

Because of how ass slow it is? KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
#

It just feels right

#

Plus I'm not blinded

potent echo
#

It's the fantasy

lethal lagoon
#

The flames have a presence to them

#

Psyker flames feels light and airy and dumb

untold niche
potent echo
#

I blame the sound

untold niche
#

no the sound sounds cool.

potent echo
#

Flamer sounds are pogryn

untold niche
#

in some super high skill ceilinbg game psyker would be the class that doesn't have as much of a mechanical skill requirement but forces you to make more macro decisions

#

zealot is micro + mechanical skill

cyan notch
#

yea

plucky flax
#

Enhanced blitz maelstrom up. Time to farm frag bomb SadgeCry

untold niche
#

finally found the 80k mael

#

whats the mod called again that let you save missions?

marble crater
#

Many more tries, or something like that?

untold niche
#

ah, i thought it was mnt, so its mmt

#

thanks

spice veldt
#

psyker force staffs do all have really good swap times so they have some good inherent micro there

#

anyways, peril glock when

tired estuary
#

I judt want vt2 bolt staff

#

Smth with different lmb (not purge lmao) annd feel

vestal fulcrum
#

I just want VT1 bolt staff

rotund fable
#

FINALLY i have a (nearly) perfect laspistol

#

over almost 2 million dockets and way more plasteel than i am happy to admit went into it

#

and dozens of failed attempts at convincing hadron

wooden tiger
#

how important is cleave damage for mark iv duelling sword? got good rolls on everything else with precog+uncanny 3.
27% on cleave damage

#

would post a pic but cant for some reason lol

upper sun
wooden tiger
#

makes sense

vestal fulcrum
upper sun
vestal fulcrum
#

Mk4 Dueling sword doesn’t cleave a lot of enemies on its light swings, so cleave damage doesn’t really do a whole lot on it

spice veldt
#

cleave damage affects infested/unarmoured armour damage modifiers

#

low cleave damage affects shotgunner oneshots (w/o damage buffs) but if you have damage buffs it should be whatever

vestal fulcrum
wooden tiger
#

thought the cleave damage modifiers was only for if you hit them after hitting something

spice veldt
#

the cleave damage name is so misleading

#

it's like the penetration/stopping power stats but for flak/unarmoured/infested

#

and on the mk4/2 duelling swords, the flak portion is bugged

#

so it only scales unarmoured/infested adms

#

(it technically still scales flak adms but only at very low percentages and just stops scaling it at all after that)

wooden tiger
#

huh okay

spice veldt
#

if you hover over the stat card, it'll tell you indeed that it just scales unarmoured/infested/flak armour damage modifiers
i guess they couldn't think of a better name besides "cleave damage"

wooden tiger
#

to me it still reads like its on enemies hit after your intial hit

#

"damage delivered to additional Enemies Hit beyond the main target"

plucky flax
#

Great success with the mk3 basher build. Very gud and skullcrusher feel so much nicer than thunderous now after nerf.

plucky flax
rotund fable
#

Yes

plucky flax
potent echo
#

It affects first target too

#

For infested

wooden tiger
#

huh, fair

spice veldt
#

numbers for the above video

untold niche
#

@plucky flax Your build first ruhn

#

chastise can do more damage but stealth can clutch easier yeah

#

14 cknife and still no Uncanny4 tho

plucky flax
#

What build though.

#

Also uncanny 3 is good enough, You don't need 4.

untold niche
#

youir build

#

ah

#

uh

#

martyr

#

stealth

untold niche
plucky flax
#

Oh combat axe I guess.

#

Thought you're using knife.

untold niche
#

ya

#

caxe

#

my knife no get yet

plucky flax
#

Yes use stun nade in tricky situation and stealth then you can't go wrong.

untold niche
#

i want uncanny 4

plucky flax
#

Just use stealth against ogryn bois.

#

And monsters.

#

Or to get to range back line.

untold niche
plucky flax
#

No I just head shot it.

#

Also do the 2 taps stealth trick.

untold niche
#

ah

plucky flax
#

Stealth just before first heavy land.

untold niche
#

ya wilmer did say

#

charge, stealth, land charge, still in stealth

plucky flax
#

So with 1 stealth you can kill any type of ogryn.

#

The stagger on weakspot hit with combat axe is goated. whatthefuck_heresy

untold niche
#

can't wait till i get cknife

#

:3

#

CDR on stealth

#

finally

#

i found the best title @plucky flax

sacred crane
#

Who needs stealth when you can bum rush with knife + scriers

untold niche
#

me me poo poo not good enough to clutch fight

sacred crane
#

Simply scrier then use gun and fullfill your doom slayer fantasy

plucky flax
#

Knife and stealth? WeirdChamp

potent echo
#

No deployable quadruple mini gun Sitgryn

untold niche
#

pls

sacred crane
plucky flax
#

I like the extra attack speed for knife with chastise.

cyan notch
sacred crane
#

Chastise?

#

U mean for zealot?

spice veldt
#

it's always been sane

untold niche
sacred crane
#

Need to form a cult of scrier knife psykers smh

plucky flax
#

Yes all classes welcome here. I can give good advices for psyker and zealot. My vet and ogryn are not that good.

untold niche
#

and the build i made was too hbigh of apm

#

man needed to sweat

sacred crane
sacred crane
#

What is VS again?

vestal fulcrum
#

Sounds like Venting Shriek

vestal fulcrum
untold niche
sacred crane
#

Oh yeah, the ability that nobody uses because of how mediocre it is

plucky flax
#

What is?

upper sun
#

shriek should stagger bosses DEBATE ME

untold niche
untold niche
untold niche
#

one monkeybeat is not enough

sacred crane
#

Scrier: Enter doom mode and kill everything with a gun
Shield: Protect teammates and provide boss stunning or huge toughness
VS: You yell at people to reduce peril and do fuck all damage (unless ur a soulblaze build)

#

That is just me tho

untold niche
#

you press one button at 83.3% peril and all zombies die

#

also work through wall

#

meaning you could preemptively use it to save your teammates
either because of horde or like mention dogs

spice veldt
#

god i love the obscurus so much besides the l2

sacred crane
#

For me that only take little soulblaze damage for a few seconds

untold niche
#

like i said, 83.3%

sacred crane
#

I do, still sorta sucks

rigid sky
#

It's enough to kill all trash

#

it's not weak at all lmao

rigid sky
#

like, you are using creeping flames correct?

#

not the shitty warp rupture

sacred crane
#

Can kill more with a silly lil knife and constantly using scrier

untold niche
rigid sky
#

Scrier's is better to kill elites with

sacred crane
rigid sky
#

but creeping flames annihilates trash

untold niche
#

you can press F

sacred crane
untold niche
#

then tell zombies you going to go buy milk

rigid sky
#

I mean I scrolled up and you said you were using guns anyway

#

so if you're using guns gaze is definitely correct

sacred crane
#

If I use gun, then gaze, if staff, then shield

#

Gaze is just more fun

untold niche
#

also VS stacks very nicely with PC

#

and also staggers crushers

#

i facetank crusher and rager on void because of VS

sacred crane
#

I dont stagger crushers, I crit them to death

rigid sky
#

If you run Smite you definitely want shriek

sacred crane
supple sedge
rigid sky
#

But yeah, you can pick between shriek and shield for the other blitzes

supple sedge
#

Ulgo use it with the uh... more powerfull brain stuff

#

Use gun too

sacred crane
#

I use assail because the shards look pretty and plus it combos well with my gun psyker build

supple sedge
#

Am enjoyin meself lots

rigid sky
#

Yeah, assail has the synergy with DD

#

and true aim

#

Any excuse to take DD is a good excuse for me, probably half the reason why I enjoy gun and void the most

sacred crane
#

I pair it with perfect timing, maelific maelstorm, DD and true aim so they are just busted asf

#

Since Im constantly critting and killing with non-warp weapons, it almost always keeps assail with a nice damage bonus

potent echo
#

i want maleific to buff the other direction too 😠

patent steeple
#

btw, I think I have to run Soulstealer instead of WIldfire or Warp Battery on my Blaze Trauma build, just because I sometimes struggle to get enough toughness back from Mettle to survive...

sacred crane
patent steeple
#

also, I keep getting kicked out of the Mourningstar due to a connection error numbered 2014 for some reason...

plucky flax
#

Stand further away from front line.

#

If you have to drop I'd go with warp battery and keep wildfire for blaze trauma.

potent echo
#

why vet gets all the fun stuff

untold niche
hearty oak
untold niche
#

should i play sedition

#

HOW TO do the shwoer easter egg?

#

i turn on all with red

#

nothing happen

marble crater
#

Are you sure you found all the red showers?

hollow current
#

did you forget to drop the soap.

untold niche
queen fog
#

my assumption is one got activated that shouldnt have

#

ive fat fingered the wrong pipe a handful of times thumbsup_ogryn

potent echo
#

its timed

untold niche
#

i see

#

green is me btw

#

what does this medal they are using mean

urban sandal
#

I think that's the auric maelstrom with no downs one

vestal fulcrum
plucky flax
#

I think the silver is completed 50 auric missions. The gold is 100.

formal hill
#

Oh I didn't read the question, one is 50 one is 100 lmao

untold niche
#

what happens when all shower on?

vestal fulcrum
#

Tertium receives a water bill

untold niche
#

oh i got the room

marble crater
#

The 100 auric missions and Maelstrom without anyong going down look very similar

plucky flax
#

The 100 auric one looks nicer. It's bigger.

#

50 maelstrom one is the best though imo.

vestal fulcrum
#

I wear no insignia still chadgryn

plucky flax
vestal fulcrum
#

Give me something worthy of a reject

#

Like a shackle

#

IDK

vestal fulcrum
# untold niche ahhhh

It’s 50/100 auric completion respectively if other replies to your question happen to be accurate whatthefuck_heresy

#

I’m not at my PC, hence I don’t remember

untold niche
#

had a +80 knife zealot kept running forward then got dogged

#

left ofc

mental rock
#

The classic

cosmic sigil
radiant frigate
#

true

ornate hamlet
#

honestly same

patent steeple
# cosmic sigil

ah yes, the screaming skull-opener, truly a good weapon. (I like to call it that, because the weapon opens skulls and makes a loud noise (aka, screams) while doing so)

plucky flax
#

With all 3 tdr nodes and 15% damage reduction while charging heavy attack. chadgryn

#

Thicc boi

supple sedge
#

Good

#

Big numbers bestest

potent echo
#

when patchie

plucky flax
#

Bro do ogryn penances for me.

potent echo
#

you'llgetusedtoit.jpeg

supple sedge
kindred ivy
#

EP smite + fire vent is still best

#

epic

supple sedge
#

Ulgo like it yes. But like me more damage. Not use fire no more

urban sandal
#

I use vent with no modifiers whatthefuck_heresy

jovial juniper
#

Radical

weary crane
#

Holy moly

#

This is auric malestrom btw

rigid sky
#

Get it away from me

jovial juniper
#

First lmb staff ever

paper lily
#

Players are so bad lately I love it

untold niche
untold niche
paper lily
#

i woke up and there was an 80k mael did it and went back to sleep

untold niche
#

real gamer

#

woke up just to do 80k mael

paper lily
#

shoutout to the prestige level 1 guy who jumped to dodge

#

oh game crashed halfway thru that one mb

candid dawn
#

how good is building crit disrupt destiny on a surge staff

untold niche
#

so not good

#

DD want headshots

mental rock
#

Well surge actually has the best left clicks of the staff because of the Crit stat so not that bad

untold niche
#

unless you left click like maulers

mental rock
#

Yeah I wouldn't use DD with surge but going somewhat Crit focused is not a waste I would say

fickle swallow
#

How exactly do you play illisi? Do you force spam special on every attack or only occasionally?

marsh badger
#

H1L2

untold niche
mental rock
#

Spamming special heavy is highest DPS until you reach max peril I think

fickle swallow
#

I tried spamming special heavy against horde but it's somewhat unsafe and I do have to panic left click sometimes

plucky flax
#

Light special is very fast compared to heavy.

fickle swallow
#

It's sad that I can't L1 - special L2

paper lily
#

surge always gonna do more dps with wc unfortunately

untold niche
paper lily
#

u use whichever one is gonna stagger more enemies regardless of dmg imo

#

lights got 4.5 hitmass but come out probably twice as fast and heavies have 6.5 and a good attack angle

paper lily
#

dd surge would be somewhat viable with 25 stacks and the weakspot/crit dmg inverted prob

untold niche
jovial juniper
paper lily
#

yea i mean u should always be able to never get hit in trashhorde

jovial juniper
#

Dodge backwards quelling

paper lily
#

lights and heavies have equal cleave using special but obv heavies gonna do a gorillion more dmg

fickle swallow
#

Yeah 'm trying to figure out the pattern that provides best horde clear efficiency on top of safety. Currently I just use staves (except surge) to horde clear. Been using DS4 forever

untold niche
#

the lights out mael is really hard because i can't see shit smileyasuda

paper lily
#

if ur an unarmored perk enjoyer like myself u can 1 shot 5 trashmobs per heavy with special activated

#

7 on a crit

untold niche
plucky flax
#

Bruh low intensity and 3 guys went down at the same time. I can only save 2.

paper lily
#

probably wanna push attack before u attempt activation

plucky flax
#

Play 3 rounds without anyone dying literally impossible.

paper lily
#

or rather just push

#

i can play with u i'm godlike

candid dawn
#

got in a lights out match

#

other 3 players immediately left lol

plucky flax
#

I leave this game. MIssion already failed.

paper lily
plucky flax
#

Come play and carry these smol dudes with me.

paper lily
#

aight how join

plucky flax
#

They die to groaners horde. nooooo

paper lily
#

they are scary ok

plucky flax
#

6262260298

#

Me FS code.

untold niche
plucky flax
#

I am doing low intensity. :3

paper lily
#

i swear playing easier difficulties just raises the player difficulty modifier

vestal fulcrum
plucky flax
#

Never pick this one (Unless you're forced to.)

paper lily
#

99% of the time i reroll it

plucky flax
#

(Because reroll cost too much)

untold niche
plucky flax
#

It's costing me 100k per reroll.

#

I am not doing it.

paper lily
#

omfg my game is crashing using fatshark add

plucky flax
#

It's either giving me 16 books or this shite.

fickle swallow
paper lily
#

hold on i just give u my code

plucky flax
#

Ye

rigid sky
#

There are 8 possible contracts

plucky flax
#

We can try auric and see how fast they die. whatthefuck_heresy

rigid sky
#

And it should cycle them

#

What are you rejecting?

paper lily
#

5616281814

rigid sky
#

I always try to do Plas, dia, dregs, scabs and monsters

plucky flax
#

I also don't want ranged kills cos I don't shoot enough on ogryn.

paper lily
#

shoot build is so boring

candid dawn
#

what blitz do you guys usually pair with surge staff

paper lily
#

idk if u queue from operative selection so i'll just join mourningstar

#

nah see this guy is gonna go hard

#

i can feel it

plucky flax
#

He's good he's ogryn he won't die.

paper lily
#

at least it's deaths, not downs

plucky flax
#

Yes..

#

Pls no barrel launcher.

jovial juniper
paper lily
#

he only xbox mic'd one time

plucky flax
#

My in game chat is always broken so I don't hear or see anything.

paper lily
#

you are not missing out

formal hill
#

Real

plucky flax
#

Hab dreyko is fast. I'll do the final event.

formal hill
#

Usually just ERP

warm oasis
#

Broad question but anyone have tips for surviving on higher difficulties? ie Damnation to Auric?

formal hill
#

Play well

plucky flax
#

2 zealots with immo nade they can survive surely. whatthefuck_heresy

paper lily
#

i stopped reading at 2 zealots

plucky flax
formal hill
#

My tip is to not die, how you not die is this: The only place you need to look is behind you

plucky flax
#

Pls no racism against zealot. It's my 2nd most played.

formal hill
#

No Yelling Christian server

untold niche
#

look at total damage of whole team
a5mael btw, so low

untold niche
jovial juniper
#

Dodge frequently

lyric burrow
#

well idk about that, it helps but carrying in HISTG esp if you need to solo clutch is very different

untold niche
lyric burrow
#

for stuff like maelstroms that might be true i dont play maelstrom much

untold niche
#

solo clutch only for pro player like you cryge

warm oasis
lyric burrow
#

psyker generally struggles with monostrosity damage unless you take a gun build

#

fine vs plogryn cause you can just duel it with melee forever

#

but BON and Cspawn can be a bit annoying if you cant just mag dump it

untold niche
#

my region everyone wants to hit the boss, so tbh i feel its more helpful to just ignore the ego call to hit big bad threat and help team by clearing the area of specials/elites

lyric burrow
#

yeah thats fine too

#

unless they cant handle the boss

warm oasis
formal hill
#

BON isn't hard to melee kill, just don't waste dodges

warm oasis
#

Generally just get snipers, gunners, trappers and hounds first then go from there

lyric burrow
#

sometimes they spawn in annoying places to melee and if you do get eaten it sucks, its doable (ill do it with knife if i bring it) although generally gun will keep you much safer

#

and they are asking to survive

untold niche
# warm oasis Only thing I’m not certain I know is kill priority

dough correct me because im sure i will miss something

just by experience, you know disablers fuck you up the most,
so kill trappers and dogs first.

Then usually those high damage stuff like snipers
I would argue bombers as well because sometime not much space to run

Then usually its whats hurting you the most, i.e. the rager/crusher in your face or the 12 gunners