yeah then assail itll help you not waste ammo on trash and clear a bit
#psyker-class
upper sun
polar drift
yeah then assail itll help you not waste ammo on trash and clear a bit
OK - it has felt the best so far, so I will keep trying it. Do you have any advice on weapons? The force sword has such poor dodge distance, but good cleave, while the DS is the opposite...
upper sun
illisi is better for clear ds4 is better for armor
polar drift
illisi is better for clear ds4 is better for armor
OK - if I have assil, then ds is prob better
upper sun
not really columnus infantry auto gun is what most people use
ive seen some laspistol but idk how its built
polar drift
not really columnus infantry auto gun is what most people use
OK - I must be using it wrong, I hate it - kek
plucky flax
I am free from penances now I can just play psyker and zealot. But mostly psyker.
polar drift
not really columnus infantry auto gun is what most people use
Thank you for your assistance!!!!
mental grail
High epsilon, low delta.
upper sun
Thank you for your assistance!!!!
theres a nice guide pinned it has most of what you could ask for
polar drift
theres a nice guide pinned it has most of what you could ask for
Sweet
plucky flax
You can ask me I am top 1% (sedition)
upper sun
I am free from penances now I can just play psyker and zealot. But mostly psyker...
same but mostly zealot since im so good at zealot
plucky flax
patent wing
zealot feels like playing irelia
upper sun
totally could have solod the boss if i had my evi btw
plucky flax
Idk who dat is
upper galleon
zealot feels like playing irelia
i'm more partial to darius zealot /hj
upper sun
TOTALLY
upper sun
Idk who dat is
swords girl from league
plucky flax
Okay I only play dota.
upper sun
great hero design
plucky flax
League 
patent wing
Okay I only play dota.
cool guy here beware guys
plucky flax
upper sun
league and dota are both trash
upper galleon
upper galleon
me on my way to perfectly push a poxburster into the entire team
patent wing
i wasted like 10k hours into league
plucky flax
Me when I surge a burster but the vet run toward it anyway then get blown up.
mental grail
High epsilon, low delta.
Your psyker savant or seer is able to sense the souls living in tertium's sister hive when everyone else is blind.
plucky flax
"?"
plucky flax
Xd
upper sun
did they rework my waifu?
patent wing
yeah :/
mental grail
Safe to say they are really strong grade wise.
upper sun
first kata then cait then irelia 😭
patent wing
its no more "better nerf irelia"
upper galleon
irelia is for ADHD mains
upper sun
man
mental grail
As for who's the strongest psyker of the three? Probably loner.
patent wing
ahh old kata connoiseur
upper sun
pre nerf kassadin was something else
upper sun
per rework pre nerf pre rework PRE nerf kassadin was nice
upper galleon
As for who's the strongest psyker of the three? Probably loner.
savant has the most training and seer has a literally (tiny) piece of the emperor
upper sun
if riot let you play old versions of the game id log on rn unironically
patent wing
after reaching diamond 2 in season 5 i stopped playing until i started again and did dia5 again on master yi in season 8
patent wing
master yi and singed only
patent wing
yi is hard, my name indicated this too. "very hard champ"
mental grail
savant has the most training and seer has a literally (tiny) piece of the empero...
Sanctioning psykers tends to (but not always) put a damper on their strength, by method of intense indoctrination and implants. Lore wise, rogue psykers have no mental dampers, and are usually stronger.
upper galleon
loner is just a runaway, none of them are exceptionally strong but they are all extremely stable
patent wing
leona horror to play against wiht yi
supple dock
savant has the most training and seer has a literally (tiny) piece of the empero...
Even if he didn't have a piece of the emperor with him, if he believed it enough it could probably effect his power
upper sun
i played pretty psycho mode i had a full page of armor runes and i'd tell the adc all in at levels 1 2 and 3
upper galleon
Sanctioning psykers tends to (but not always) put a damper on their strength, by...
that may be true, but all the psykers we play lean way more into stability then sheer power, considering "normal" psykers in the imperium's employ blow up like makeshift bombs
patent wing
but it was really nice, Yi was just the strongest champ every, noone could duel u if same amount of items
upper sun
full page of armor was fucking stupid early levels
patent wing
ahh old rune pages
mental grail
And we have no idea who seer is talking to. It could be a fragment of the Emperor, it could be a benign daemon, or it could just be his own kalpa manifest.
patent wing
anyway i had like 50 pentakills with yi in one season
upper sun
darktide 2 we get 3 blitzs
upper galleon
And we have no idea who seer is talking to. It could be a fragment of the Empero...
it's unlikely to be a daemon considering A) a daemon could easily have more influence and take over them, B)they have been approached by a fake emperor to go into the impossible portrait
upper sun
SMITE IN ONE HAND ASSAIL IN ANOTHER
patent wing
@agent chaos yis alpha strike was a point n click dash which disappeared you 1 second from the map and dealt dmg to multiplie enemies
upper galleon
so if it is a daemon, you would have a weak psyker being contested between 2 daemons which doesn't make sense
sacred crane
I'm still trying to find out what assail is based from WHAT IS ASSAIL FROM
mental grail
My loner is unsanctioned so he's about alpha plus.
Yeah I'd say that loner probably would have the greatest unleashed strength, but is very unstable emotionally and fall to chaos the easiest.
patent wing
13 sec cooldown but hits would reduce it by 1 second
and yeah he was full attack speed
with true dmg
mental grail
I'm still trying to find out what assail is based from WHAT IS ASSAIL FROM
Psychic energy made physical.
upper sun
I'm still trying to find out what assail is based from WHAT IS ASSAIL FROM
its based || ||
mental grail
Thats why you generate it.
plucky flax
I want some cryo power too.
Freeze enemies then burn them and make explosion or some shit.
Boom boom bang bang.
marble crater
Ice smite 
mental grail
Seer somewhat seems very stable, like they don't base their belief system on a fragile sense of justice, like savant.
upper galleon
loner hates chaos more than they hate the imperium
upper sun
ICE PURGE STAFF
mental grail
I can see savant spiraling if the situation gets too complex for their moral compass.
plucky flax
And more warp storm based power. Not just lightning surge.
But like aoe lightning strikes.
sacred crane
Seer somewhat seems very stable, like they don't base their belief system on a f...
Seer bases their judgement sort of morality and what the emporer tells them
mental grail
loner hates chaos more than they hate the imperium
Yeah, but loner is hated by everyone, and isn't drunk on propaganda to cope.
upper galleon
being an agnostic/atheist is a legit strat in 40k,
fabius bile straight up resists slaanesh themself
upper sun
Psychic Shriek - The psyker breathes in deeply the power of the Warp before emitting a banshee howl of psychic energy that shreds the minds of their enemies.
Assail - Using nothing but the power of their mind, the psyker tears a boulder or rock from the ground and hurls it at the foe.
Smite - Lethal bolts of bio-lightning leap from the psyker's fingertips, tearing their foes apart.
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Psyker#Biomancy_Discipline
huh
its all here
mental grail
Savant is hated and tries to be a paragon of justice to prove others wrong.
Seer, simply doesn't care very much.
Loner hates and mocks the world in response, which is cathartic, but not exactly what you want a walking potential daemon gate doing.
sacred crane
Seer is just a free spirit, which is why I love him
mental grail
full psyker tide game
upper sun
gimmie 7 classes of psykers
mental grail
Playing a psyker in the dark heresy RPG is great as well. You cause trees and stone to weep blood, and grass and plants to wither and die.
marble crater
I'm stealing this
sacred crane
>Psychic Shriek - The psyker breathes in deeply the power of the Warp before emi...
cant find bb 
wait- nvm
Crush - By reaching out their arm and clenching their fist, the psyker entraps their foe in a choking and crushing mass of psychic force. Gritting their teeth, the psyker continues the assault until flesh, armour and bone alike are ground to powder
upper sun
cant find bb <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
Haemorrhage - Focussing their mutant mind, the psyker reaches forth and sets a fire within their victim's flesh. Within moments, the unfortunate foe's blood begins to boil in its own veins, tearing them asunder as it bursts from every pore.
this is kinda similar too
sacred crane
Haemorrhage - Focussing their mutant mind, the psyker reaches forth and sets a f...
Well bb targets the head, not the blood
crush makes more sense
upper sun
ye
mental grail
Sunburst - The psyker sings a wild song whose notes were old when the universe was young. As they do so, an incandescent aura appears about them, growing ever brighter and hotter with every refrain. Only when the song is ended does the aura explode, discharging its pent-up fury in a blinding, supernoval flash.
Need this ^^
sacred crane
Sunburst - The psyker sings a wild song whose notes were old when the universe w...
This is such a Seer thing to do
mental grail
Well bb targets the head, not the blood
what carries oxygen to the brain 
sacred crane
Seer already sings sometimes
plucky flax
Larian please get the rights to warhammer fantasy.
upper sun
i dont care for warhammer fantasy but if they get the rights ill 100% play it
plucky flax
BG3 is really good and so was DOS2.
upper sun
BABY SHARK DUDUDUDU
plucky flax
They are just too good at making fantasy arpg games.
Tbh I won't be mad if they make dos3.
sacred crane
BABY SHARK DUDUDUDU
plucky flax
Since it's their original universe.
upper sun
BG3 is really good and so was DOS2.
yeah only issue is itll be in development for 8 years
plucky flax
They already start pre-production of their new game right after bg3 launch.
upper sun
WHAT THE FUCK
sacred crane
WHAT THE FUCK
Wait, where is this in that map?
upper sun
i have no idea
mental grail
Can we get voicelines for Seer of him singing please fat shark
I want to hear fem seer singing in her northerner accent
would probably sound funny
orchid verge
Disrupt Destiny picking a random enemy every second seems awkward AF, have you guys tried a build using it?
marble crater
Yes, I tried it with surge and assail, worked well enough, works even better as gunker or with voidstrike
spice veldt
the description for it is wrong since it's not quite every second
maybe they mean that the target marking mechanic updates every second, but there's some conditions required for it to change targets
thorn cedar
i'd love to know what those conditions are but i feel like reading it might be like summoning from the necronomicon
upper sun
Disrupt Destiny picking a random enemy every second seems awkward AF, have you g...
ye its nice and a very cheap build
near drift
Voidstrike/assail with DD is an easy and effective build, I like it
Missing out on elite kill CDR does suck but I can live with that
dusky crag
Wait, where is this in that map?
It's in the first big courtyard area
upper sun
Voidstrike/assail with DD is an easy and effective build, I like it
just do smite void DD
veri based
dusky crag
time to throw :(
paper lily
wdym throw smite is fuckin op
upper sun
throw ur brain out the window and win u mean
paper lily
thats more like it
dusky crag
exactly I must smite shriek every horde
paper lily
no u smite other shit and shriek the horde
cloud prawn
Good evening! I'd like to improve my equipment a bit and make builds that are optimally effective on most enemies. What advice would you give me? (My Psyker is level 30)
uneven mirage
Any tips for this one? I'm using flamethrower staff + disrupt destiny
dusky crag
gotta gather a horde and get lucky
orchid verge
had an infinite smite loop the other day
smite + 5% cdr on elite kill + shout spam on when dog spam was coming
plucky flax
Any tips for this one? I'm using flamethrower staff + disrupt destiny
Columbus and hold down left click.
mental grail
Disrupt Destiny picking a random enemy every second seems awkward AF, have you g...
It's default for any gunker, if it procs on a guy 3000km away, you just gotta deal
mental grail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1234573320947499128/U...
skin or mod?
plucky flax
Mod. 
uneven mirage
Not really, I get like 20-25 kills per horde with illisi
uneven mirage
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1234573320947499128/U...
ah yes, gunmancy, my favorite space wizard school
mental grail
are there any released columnus skins anyway?
cloud prawn
Good evening! I'd like to improve my equipment a bit and make builds that are op...
👁️
upper sun
Any tips for this one? I'm using flamethrower staff + disrupt destiny
infantry autogun gaze and mag dump
paper lily
ngl u don't even need gear on psyker
u can just do ep smite and win the game by walking thru the map
mental grail
Not really, I get like 20-25 kills per horde with illisi
I got it first try on hi intensity heresy lmao
plucky flax
are there any released columnus skins anyway?
Yeah there are about 3 or 4 premium ones.
orchid verge
It's default for any gunker, if it procs on a guy 3000km away, you just gotta de...
description says enemies within 25m
upper sun
Good evening! I'd like to improve my equipment a bit and make builds that are op...
the guide pinned is pretty good if you have more specific questions feel free to ask here
mental grail
description says enemies within 25m
I'm being hyperbolic
paper lily
they meant a guy 3000 walls from ur los
upper sun
I'm being hyperbolic
no way you're hyperbolic
uneven mirage
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1234573320947499128/U...
what perks on columbus?
spice veldt
could grab the chainsword for a no-peril hordeclear weapon that happens to be good with crits
plucky flax
what perks on columbus?
Shouldn't matter the only thing you need is dumdum blessing.
upper sun
what perks on columbus?
dumdum and deathspitter/fire frenzy
mental grail
DD will proc on enemies still in their spawning cells in a room 4 walls away
uneven mirage
aight, I'll out gunmancer psyker
mental grail
When shit like that happens, it simply is what it is
orchid verge
It's default for any gunker, if it procs on a guy 3000km away, you just gotta de...
it seems awkward because that includes behind you, & allies killing marked and stopping whatever your doing to kill whatever random horde (likely) enemy they marked
true and enemies that haven't even spawned
it's just awkward AF
mental grail
You gotta make an incredibly hard decision, fuck over my team for little tangible gain, or just wait a few seconds
overall, just ignore it if it's not feasible
1 stack isn't crucial to your damage so much to make turning around in an ambush worth it
thorn cedar
You gotta make an incredibly hard decision, fuck over my team for little tangibl...
this reeks of beta lingering influence energy
chad perfectionists will drop fukken everything for that hit of blue
mental grail
I don't know what that phrase means, talk like someone normal
thorn cedar
six crushers killing my team and need help? if they aint blue i dont wanna fukken HEAR IT
upper sun
hell yeah
thorn cedar
ive got goddamn destinies to disrupt
orchid verge
if it's such a small gain that it barely changes gameplay, it's not cool enough to warrant a keystone
thorn cedar
DD is fkn huge
upper sun
also if i dont have a trauma/void im not gonna bother they're on their own with 7 crushers
plucky flax
also if i dont have a trauma/void im not gonna bother they're on their own with ...
Based behaviour.
upper sun
what am i gonna do zap one at a time with my surge?
mental grail
six crushers killing my team and need help? if they aint blue i dont wanna fukke...
soy "this is a team game" cucks cannot handle raw truth
paper lily
they'll die
upper sun
BIG DEEPS BIG DEEPS
paper lily
eventually
plucky flax
15 damage per tick
patent wing
ITS ABOUT THE MESSAGE
upper sun
uhhh my fire nade just last hit that crusher i totally helped
mental grail
if it's such a small gain that it barely changes gameplay, it's not cool enough ...
DD is great when you're on a roll with them, one missed stack isn't worth turning around and getting railed by a specialist you cannot see.
near drift
I don't know what that phrase means, talk like someone normal
virgin beta refuses to pursue profit for "team cohesion", sigma male psyker always wins on quintillionaire DD grindset
mental grail
I'm framing this
upper sun
so tru so tru
mental grail
thorn cedar
when you kill a blueboi, your next question should be "where is the next blueboi so i may kill them, too"
orchid verge
DD is great when you're on a roll with them, one missed stack isn't worth turnin...
Disrupt Destiny?! more like Disrupt Gameplay!
upper sun
when you kill a blueboi, your next question should be "where is the next blueboi...
hell yeah gotta refresh those 15 stacks
thorn cedar
also like real talk tho dont sleep on the fact that that shit gives you 20% move speed on kill and 15% toughness regen (which is on top of whatever the hell else you have going on)
15 stacks? fuck outta here
one assail dart can be crit + warp + peril gen + DD all at once
orchid verge
awkward != underpowered, 😪
upper sun
bruh i cant handle 25
thorn cedar
tbh most builds dont
upper sun
id legit need retalin to manage 25 stacks
thorn cedar
nah its just about what you're bringing
imo laspistol and assail are the #1 tools
laspistol especially
gets insanely juiced from DD bonuses
instant draw speed, respectable mag size, pin-point accurate hipfire
upper sun
imagine +25% damage +50% crit damage void strike
thorn cedar
you just put your crosshair on a blue head, press q, shoot, go back to what you were doing
the issue with void is flight time + charge time
just that barrier is enough for you to whiff
plucky flax
If you have q as your weapon swap then what button to tag?
upper sun
middle mouse button 
upper sun
5 is my macro for auto inject stim
plucky flax
upper sun
🤔
near drift
I have my tag as F lol
plucky flax
Q is my tag. I can strafe left and tag still.
thorn cedar
idk i dont find that uh
plucky flax
Middle finger on q.
upper sun
just bind tag to shoot
thorn cedar
particularly impressive lul
upper sun
its very based
plucky flax
I CAN MOVE AND TAG
thorn cedar
like i could totally see rebinding my quell key from r
so i can move right and quell
plucky flax
BRUH THATS NEXT LEVEL TOP 1% SKILLS
thorn cedar
which currently involves tangling my fingers into a knot
it really causes my boneitis to flare up
upper sun
when is fatshark gonna invent more fingers
paper lily
u guys don't wasd with pinky ring middle? smh
upper sun
u guys don't wasd with pinky ring middle? smh
sprint is pinky
paper lily
still more correct than ppl doing the 90 degree kb style
alternatively if u really need to quell and move right just move ur thumb up 
thorn cedar
i have mouse buttons i could use
upper sun
need an mmo mouse fr
thorn cedar
but nah
paper lily
10x more ergonomic to use the mouse keys
upper sun
man the game needs multiple keybinds for one action
paper lily
i think u can do that
thorn cedar
the only thing i'd wanna somehow change
which isnt gonna happen
is make helbore bayonet bound to m1 but only when i want it to be
upper sun
i think u can do that
need a mod for that
cloud prawn
the guide pinned is pretty good if you have more specific questions feel free to...
My english isn't good enough to read all of this :x
upper sun
My english isn't good enough to read all of this :x
two birds with one stone then
(that means you can work on your reading and gaming at the same time)
cloud prawn
bruh don't have time for this
upper sun
just read the parts you need
like what weapon likes what perks/blessings
also the faster you read the less time it takes 🙃
dusky crag
Time for smite + ep + shriek
show these heretics why I was made in the god emperor's image
marble crater
also the faster you read the less time it takes 🙃
Unless you read so fast that you realize you don't actually remember what you just read 
And then need to read it all over again
upper sun
ah yes the scientific method of reading
"lemme just read this 90 page study real quick to see if it agrees with me or not so i can decide to use it or ignore it"
upper sun
maniac is prolly more applicable but you can always change it back if you dont like it
manic river
I need warp flurry
severe violet
Awesome
uneven mirage
finally done gunmancer penance
it wasnt hard, but annoying, i constantly got other psykers in team and they were destroying half of the horde before i even pulled out the gun
literally suffering from success
dusky crag
I love smitemaxing I love smitemaxing
uneven mirage
what talent is better for this one, 10s duration of stacks, or 25 max stacks?
(also holy shit the spawn on this passive is stupid)
radiant frigate
the what
thorn cedar
10s one
dusky crag
what talent is better for this one, 10s duration of stacks, or 25 max stacks?
10s duration
radiant frigate
10s unless you headshot everything forever
thorn cedar
if youre real good then yeah do the other one
cause 10 stacks over 15 at 4s per is still longer than 10s at 15
but yknow
gotta actually get it there
uneven mirage
so i thought
I don't like how getting there is full on rng
It doesnt count ally kills, right?
plucky flax
what talent is better for this one, 10s duration of stacks, or 25 max stacks?
I prefer the 10s one.
But both work well depend on the person.
radiant frigate
10s more reliable
cold ivy
bit late to the tagging discussion, but i have tag bound to mouse wheel up (and a macro making mouse wheel down press LMB)
uneven mirage
well, i have over 1500h in Tide games and I'm still shit, so Im that kind of a person
radiant frigate
25 stacks to ride the lightning
plucky flax
Does that make you ping constantly?
cold ivy
nah, when i horde clear i just scroll my wheel down and my character automatically spams lights
upper sun
what talent is better for this one, 10s duration of stacks, or 25 max stacks?
10 second one is easier
cold ivy
when i want to tag things i scroll up and it'll tag
occasionally it'll play the tag sound twice but that's about it
plucky flax
Okie cos I have to use mod to combat the tag spammers.
upper sun
tbh i only tag stuff that i know is gonna fuck someone up
plucky flax
cold ivy
i tag stuff to line up headshots better
upper sun
if a trapper or a dog is flanking someone or i failed to kill it
cold ivy
esp against gunners because i know roughly where they're shooting from (muzzle flare) but not 100% sure where the head is, and both plasma and revolver have oneshot breakpoints on gunner heads
oh also useful for flamers cuz you can see their outline through the fire spewing at you, and very far away snipers
radiant frigate
Real
plucky flax
I tag most stuff tbh.
radiant frigate
(i do not like plasma though)
plucky flax
Just to see it easier with the outline.
Like if it's a lone monster and all 4 are whacking on it I still tag it.
So I can hit head easier.
spice veldt
tagging is practically mandatory for some guns because you can't see the body of enemies and get a good sight on them
e.g., mfing v7 headhunter sights
strong gulch
I tag a lot. It's hard for me to see a lot of the time.
radiant frigate
i barely tag tbh
spice veldt
i tag only for kills that i can secure
or for kills that I know I can't secure
no in-betweens
radiant frigate
just for long range pretty much
or flerimg trapper
fleeing*
most things i engage are relatively close
upper sun
no in-betweens
so you tag things you can kill and things you cant kill?
upper galleon
my brain mentally blocks out how shit the mk7HH sights are
paper lily
u guys don't just mod the mk7 sights?
thorn cedar
the center of your screen is always in the same space
upper galleon
u guys don't just mod the mk7 sights?
no
thorn cedar
gotta filter out the noise with ur brainmeat
upper sun
u guys don't just mod the mk7 sights?
remove all gun models and tape an X to your monitor
radiant frigate
i forgor how they look because i put red dot on anything i can
strong gulch
If it was easier for me to distinguish between the environment and an enemy (or enemy's shape) I'd tag less.
spice veldt
so you tag things you can kill and things you cant kill?
p much
weapon customization causes my game to crash much faster
cold ivy
tagging is also great for lights out or vent purge
spice veldt
so i don't use it
upper sun
🤔
plucky flax
I also use mod to change tag to green so it stands out a lot more.
upper sun
thats everything
plucky flax
I can see it. 
spice veldt
i have an alternate solution but that has a high chance of crashing me
spice veldt
thats everything
no, since there exists enemies that I am uncertain on whether I know I can kill or can't kill
e.g., a shotgunner that i can theoretically kill but maybe I'm occupied in melee
upper sun
no, since there exists enemies that I am uncertain on whether I know I can kill ...
bruh
spice veldt
i'll be saving it for later when i kill the melee enemy and have the space to aim at it
spice veldt
i messed with the cthrushield mod to make ADSing transparent but there's a crash that can happen in the psykh so i've been not using it so far
paper lily
@spice veldt have u increased memory with launch option?
upper sun
or uncertainty in case its getting tagged for not being killed
paper lily
--lua-heap-mb-size 2048
spice veldt
o shit
plucky flax
upper sun
cant be that easy right?
plucky flax
If I put that in launch option will I die?
spice veldt
yes
upper sun
If I put that in launch option will I die?
it will be extremely optimized
supple dock
--lua-heap-mb-size 2048
wait should this just be used period?
upper sun
unironically if someone has inventory problems just ask the tech support on the forum to send you a letter by mail with all the items in your invetory in a printed out spread sheet then just highlight the ones you wanna sell and mail it back
spice veldt
at the point my inventory is at, i would just wait for the crafting rework
cuz i only did inventory management for my psyker very late
i think only around the 1k hour mark lamayo
spice veldt
my psyker inventory assassinates me every time in the next game if i make the grievous mistake of entering it
spice veldt
slapping it into excel 😎
eager token
its blaze trauma still bangin since the update
upper sun
no its very weak
eager token
excellent
mental grail
well, i have over 1500h in Tide games and I'm still shit, so Im that kind of a p...
Relatable
upper sun
cant relate im the best
dusk void
well, i have over 1500h in Tide games and I'm still shit, so Im that kind of a p...
I’m still ass at this game
marble crater
Loner penance 
I'm getting the elite backstab kills quicker than that silly aura penance
plucky flax
Yep less condition on the elite/special one.
If another mate dive shooters with you it's rip.
marble crater
I will just skip it and do the others from that build. even if you can be alone, they just turn around
upper sun
I will just skip it and do the others from that build. even if you can be alone,...
suffer thru it
took me like 40 minutes to do fucking 40 of extra kills of the shroudfield bullshit
comboing the hit ult hit shit was really hard
marble crater
Maybe it will be easier after I am done with momentum, double cdr and then go invis for all the loner backstab kills
upper sun
🤔
actually yeah
i should have done the backstabs with an evi instead of a knife
but then again cant reach the enemies too well without the knife
😭 i hate zealot math
paper lily
yeah u gotta be able to double hit in stealth to make shroudfield consistent
ngl i recommend just slapping haymaker on it
if u use mk6 that is
mk3 is a meme
plucky flax
Haymaker mk3.
supple dock
when to use smite with ep
uneven mirage
I assume other players can't see my marks for disrupt destiny?
supple dock
i do have this thing
this is actually legit
upper sun
I assume other players can't see my marks for disrupt destiny?
sadly no
marble crater
Correct
uneven mirage
Man, i wish they did, so I could shout at those fkers for murdering my stacks
upper sun
this is actually legit
nah see this THIS is the real beauty
marble crater
It's good they can't see them, people like attacking highlighted enemies, anyone who uses BB knows
paper lily
my knife is dogshit but still worked for penance
1 in 5 chance to instakill anything maulers and below is nothing to sneeze at
supple dock
nah see this THIS is the real beauty
upper sun
i actually only use that knife to speed run
supple dock
I am a knife user
paper lily
nothing pisses me off more than not being able to handle horde ngl
that's why i thought knife was so dogshit in the start
upper sun
MAGDUMP IT
uneven mirage
Are zealot ninja penances as annoying as I think they are?
upper sun
YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO
paper lily
they're taxing
upper sun
Are zealot ninja penances as annoying as I think they are?
which ones?
paper lily
and you know your whole team hates you when you do it
upper sun
ye
paper lily
since 'out of coherency' counts as 2 ppl it means u can go as a duo though
upper sun
unseen assassin is the worst one tbh
uneven mirage
I mean, entire game is about staying in coherency, so it doesnt make sense
paper lily
nah u would have to remove knife too
plucky flax
remove loner from the game
paper lily
loner unironically stops them from mass spawning disablers
upper sun
remove knife from the game
uneven mirage
Guess fatshart didnt learn from those first penances that got privated
paper lily
#psyker-class message me n the wife duoing comms plex elevator event for an eternity to cheese zealot penance lmao
uneven mirage
Jesus, I still remember doing no miss penance for my vet, it was such a pain in the ass
upper sun
please forgive me friends
true lake
does anyone actually use the loner talent or is it usually seen as toxic/against working with the team
upper sun
does anyone actually use the loner talent or is it usually seen as toxic/against...
both
paper lily
but most people just pick it cuz edgelord stealth lol im fast
uneven mirage
please forgive me friends
I can't wait to do zealot pens and hit mobs in the arm so it wont count as a backstab
paper lily
its utility is that u count as 2 in coherency so ur never a target for ai out of coherency spawns
which means if everyone dies u get way less shit trying to kill u
true lake
I will likely just do that penance in a private game because it feels toxic to have to sit and be like "don't kill that guy i need to loner backstab him"
upper sun
just do sedation
paper lily
u can just cheese it in a duo with someone, being 2 together doesn't count against the penance anyway
sedation 
upper sun
ye
paper lily
me when i play that difficulty
upper sun
low level people usually thank me for clearing the level
uneven mirage
I will likely just do that penance in a private game because it feels toxic to h...
I'm curently doing all the class penances, and in my experience, at least 50% of them are different variations of "dont kill that guy i need to X him"
paper lily
eh, you just gotta be aggro
upper sun
I'm curently doing all the class penances, and in my experience, at least 50% of...
did you see ogryn
"kill 25 enemies 25 times with 25 grenades (do this 25 times)"
paper lily
comms plex elevator event is for sure the best for cheesing zealot penance tho, if u never complete it its just perma spawning shotgunners and dreg gunners
uneven mirage
"kill 25 enemies 25 times with 25 grenades (do this 25 times)"
i just saw it
my fucking god
paper lily
ngl that one isn't that bad
u go orthus offensive with a vet friend that takes ammo crates gives u nades
on a low difficulty
uneven mirage
"GUYS PLS DONT MURDER HORDE I MUST GRANAD"
paper lily
or, you play maelstrom with enhanced blitz
upper sun
wanna know how i did the zealot stun nades one?
go into game stun hoard 3 times
leave game
join another game
paper lily
sick teamplay
upper sun
thanks
paper lily
guardian angel, saving the crabwalking vets from the horde for a moment
then just fucking off
upper sun
i supressed the hoard for many people im very useful
uneven mirage
"dont mind me, im just gonna do a 'lil granad"
The more i check ogryn penances the more i want to die
and im already very anti-alive
paper lily
they are very time consuming no matter what you do
i legit opened a private instance of orthus to shoot the fucking ammo it teleports you to
like 
true lake
I'm curently doing all the class penances, and in my experience, at least 50% of...
eh I got to actually make a zealot first, I am finishing up my ogryn
I just really don't like the whole "if you don't have your friends playing with you then you can kiss this penance goodbye"
uneven mirage
you can do most of them solo, except those private ones, but it's always annoying
true lake
I shouldn't have to keep telling random people I never met "don't play the video game I need to pull off this very niche maneuver so I can get a new shirt"
uneven mirage
like, most of the time I find myself rushing for kills before my teammates murder elites
paper lily
i just run around like a psychopath idk
if i gotta accomplish something i just go do it
uneven mirage
Well, the thing is, I'm not a fan of having to race my teammates for kills to do a penance
plucky flax
does anyone actually use the loner talent or is it usually seen as toxic/against...
I do and has been since patch 13 dropped.
spice veldt
at least the kill stuff is just the nature of the game
i do agree that some shit has their values cranked up af
also i despise the psyker smite penance
true lake
which one was that
spice veldt
who the fuck designing the penance and giving it the buff is characterizing it as a damage blitz
paper lily
i finished the smite one soooo fuckin fast
spice veldt
i HATE them
upper sun
everything in ogryn needs to loose a zero
spice veldt
i could not bring myself to use smite
upper sun
kill 5000? no fucking kill 500
spice veldt
i tried to use it for two hordes and my boredom kicked in
true lake
I feel they made some of these penances and didn't think of balance until after they already made them
paper lily
i just played nurgle blessing maelstroms to keep myself lucid during gameplay
lunar hollow
they should swap the fnp and heavy hitter kill requirements
paper lily
nah, cliffhanger is insanely easy
lunar hollow
really the fnp one would be funnier if it was toughness damage taken
uneven mirage
kill 5000? no fucking kill 500
murder 25 mobs in a single ability usage 50 times is ridiculous
true lake
it is, I did it pre nerf
upper sun
i bet hank asked fatshark to make ogryn penances so grindy so people play ogryn more
true lake
but it did have a crazy ass requirement
upper sun
its all hanks fault
paper lily
even the pre nerf variation, ppl just didn't know how to abuse shit like smite directional throw
true lake
ogryn penances are god awful
having to wait until the game spawns enough enemy ogryns for you to even attempt the one is fucking bs
at least the 40 m rush one is a little easier with newer talents
paper lily
i think i got that one the second i hit 30 on ogryn
i was lucky bullet charge and just would m1 with gun after a charge to reset cd
uneven mirage
having to wait until the game spawns enough enemy ogryns for you to even attempt...
yeah, good luck with that with random team nuking every mob they see (a.k.a just playing the game like normal people)
marble crater
at least the 40 m rush one is a little easier with newer talents
A little easier? Use a yellow stim, rush, rush again, done
fresh reef
Heresy is a uh..interesting place
paper lily
they are trying their best
true lake
heresy is what I usually play and it impresses me how often my teammates have issues
malice is somehow worse
upper sun
nah malice is chill everyone is stoned and doesnt really care
people in heresy play worse and have a higher opinion of themselves
true lake
nah malice I pretty much always have the sweats
had some dude yell at me for picking up an ammo crate
marble crater
It was a vet with the crate talent, wasn't it
true lake
because he can't play as a veteran without his constant ammo addiction I guess
no idea if he had the talent tbh
spice veldt
i'm tempted to play lower difficulties just to get flamed more
true lake
he just kept yelling about needing ammo
spice veldt
because i surprisingly don't get flamed a lot on west coast
true lake
I had to turn off voice chat he got on my nerves
spice veldt
i even tried changing my portrait and insignia and still got no flame
i prob need to hop into europe for it
cuz the few times i played on europe with others, we immediately got flamed by pubs
fresh reef
i even tried changing my portrait and insignia and still got no flame
what would portrait and insignia have to do with it?
spice veldt
changing to the malice border and the beginning insignia
i'm also playing a knife zealot
spice veldt
i had a game where somebody IMMEDIATELY aggro'd onto me once the game started
even before we encountered an enemy
just because i was running knife
marble crater
I play in europe and got flamed once, maybe, I don't know as I don't speak Russian
spice veldt
i remember somebody complaining about my teammate using the bolter, and some other incident
true lake
I have never had someone get angry for someone using a knife
uneven mirage
I had to turn off voice chat he got on my nerves
i find turning off vc a good decision in any game
true lake
I mean I might get a little angry if they play knife horribly but it's whatever
that's just on them at that point
well I thought I had vc off
lunar hollow
eu pubs have been considerably more rude to me than na ones (i have played no more than 5 games on an eu server without a full premade)
spice veldt
i played with dawn and redverse a few times and encountered some flaming almost every time
lunar hollow
i respect the hell out of it
uneven mirage
i play solo eu, idk, most people are either chill or just dont interact with you whatsoever
cosmic sigil
marble crater
541 is true level, what's the 40 for?
marble crater
Isn't the true level already prestige?
upper galleon
you can change true level around for what it shows
marble crater
You guys and your mods
upper galleon
40 is the prestige IE every 30 levels, you can show total level, you can show 30+levels after 30
quartz barn
i just have it set to 30+ after like in vt2
late night
in a mixed horde, is there a way to ensure you hit your targets with surge
seems like sometimes it hits an unintended target
upper galleon
in a mixed horde, is there a way to ensure you hit your targets with surge
aim a bit higher
elites are taller
aim slightly above the elite you want
marble crater
Burn down the chaff in the horde with shriek, then you can surge the elites that are left standing
late night
is the 10% ability cdr node 10% 3 seconds no matter what? even if i use warp siphon
marble crater
I think it's based on base cooldown
late night
gonna check in a bit
cosmic sigil
elites are taller
based genetics
paper lily
it's not
wet belfry
paper lily
it's based on modified cd, that's kinda why cdr curios are kinda meh
supple dock
it's based on modified cd, that's kinda why cdr curios are kinda meh
So wait, the 10% from curios and 10% from aura don't stack additively?
wet belfry
lethal lagoon
Might have to change my curios if that's the case
Meh, even though it's multiplicative, it's still worth in my books
think of it over the course of a game how much time you are saving.
And think of the times you blew up while having 1 second left on shriek
supple dock
And think of the times you blew up while having 1 second left on shriek
BRUH
I'm saying fuck it
3 +3 stamina curios, 3 sprint efficiency, 3 gunner resistance, 3 stamina regeneration
late night
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046914150363844779/122999899829...
i also tested and theres like no difference between cds at 6x warp charges
well there is
a small one
supple dock
Wait wait
@lethal lagoon SHOULD I TAKE THE DAMAGE NODE
aura
thing
...nah cdr is still good
flat moat
What perks should I put on my deimos mk 4 Force Sword?
supple dock
flak/maniac
flat moat
and Blessings?
supple dock
uncanny/whatever
paper lily
max cdr curio is like 3s
and it nerfs ur cdr aura
well, it's not really a nerf it just doesn't benefit at all from it
ur adding tops like 5 casts over a 25 min game, i'd rather just not die to x damagetype
combat ability on curios is additive btw
lethal lagoon
i also tested and theres like no difference between cds at 6x warp charges
Warp charges halves the effect of CDR aura and Curios. So it's not no difference, it just takes it down from roughly 5 seconds to 2.5 seconds.
lethal lagoon
combat ability on curios is additive btw
I would have to test again, but that is not what I found with a CDR timer
paper lily
don't need to test it, it's written
lethal lagoon
paper lily
combat_ability_cooldown_modifier = "additive_multiplier",
max_health_modifier = "additive_multiplier",
ability_cooldown_modifier = "additive_multiplier",```it was additive last time i checked it before patch 13
lethal lagoon
Here's the problem, those variables might not line up with the in-game value
It does that for toughness regen on curios
paper lily
those are localization issues, not lua code issues
buncha curio mods are just lying anyway
ally revive speed is really good value
toughness regen speed is just fucking insane for what it is tho
spice veldt
seems to be additive even in the lua
there's toughness_regen_rate_multiplier which is multiplicative but that's used for something else
spice veldt
yeah the delay reduction and the rate increase
my guess is that the delay is just gonna be multiplicative just cuz it's reductive
lethal lagoon
I mean it really depends on how regen rate is applied.
Imagine a sprint. If his 100 meter dash time decreases by 20%, how much faster did he run?
spice veldt
multiplier is used for the scab bomber ground fire
paper lily
yeah it's so u can't afk in fire and just ride the toughness threshold
i wanna say that pox gas does not apply this multi
@lethal lagoon need more info to answer a question like that
lethal lagoon
<@1001693431300636764> need more info to answer a question like that
I mean I'm not trying to trick you, you can assume a sane human asked that problem.
So you go from 10m/s to 12.5m/s, i.e 25% increase
so 20% versus 25% benefit depending on calculation.
And I'm fairly certain there's no "30" value for toughness regen 30%
It was 20 last time I had this convo
paper lily
he posted em up there
lethal lagoon
One sec, I'll go find what I mean
spice veldt
paper lily
0.075 scaling up 4 times
spice veldt
you can also time it and i'm pretty sure it matched up last time I timed it
i never tested the delay since i didn't read the code before and never figured out how how it scaled until now
paper lily
you definitely can feel the delay
local toughness_regen_delay_buff_modifier = (buffs.toughness_regen_delay_modifier or 1) * (buffs.toughness_regen_delay_multiplier or 1)
self._toughness_regen_delay = t + toughness_template.regeneration_delay * weapon_modifier * toughness_regen_delay_buff_modifier```
brisk rock
i never tested the delay since i didn't read the code before and never figured o...
to spare you some time, the delay is bugged. see the coherency toughness section: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505
wet belfry
i find it hard to find everything in the code.
paper lily
you gotta dive around but it's all there
lethal lagoon
"gadget_toughness_regen_delay": {
"gadget_toughness_regen_delay": {
"4": {
"stat_buffs": {
"toughness_regen_delay_multiplier": "0.80000000000000004 (number)",
"toughness_regen_rate_modifier": "0.29999999999999999 (number)"
}
},
"3": {
"stat_buffs": {
"toughness_regen_delay_multiplier": "0.84999999999999998 (number)",
"toughness_regen_rate_modifier": "0.22500000000000001 (number)"
}
},
"1": {
"stat_buffs": {
"toughness_regen_delay_multiplier": "0.94999999999999996 (number)",
"toughness_regen_rate_modifier": "0.074999999999999997 (number)"
}
},
"2": {
"stat_buffs": {
"toughness_regen_delay_multiplier": "0.90000000000000002 (number)",
"toughness_regen_rate_modifier": "0.14999999999999999 (number)"
brisk rock
delay is multiplicative, regen rate is additive
spice veldt
"gadget_toughness_regen_delay": {
"gadget_toughness_regen_delay": {
...
it's splitting hairs to say that it's not 30% but rather 29.9999...%, no?
lethal lagoon
I meant the delay
spice veldt
yeah it's a different value
but the rate does stack additively in my testing and matches up with the code
lethal lagoon
paper lily
@brisk rock do you have a point in the sourcecode that mentions it disabling regen based on enemy proximity
if num_occupied_slots == 0 and toughness_damage > 0 and toughness_regen_delay < t and not toughness_regen_disabled then```here?
brisk rock
yes
potent echo
Is occupied slots the melee enemy aggro mechanic
brisk rock
yes
paper lily
this system looks convoluted
brisk rock
it's the system that determines how enemies group around the player once they're aggroed. aggro itself is determined elsewhere if you want to get technical
brisk rock
you mean regen delay?
paper lily
yea
brisk rock
yes, it will behave like in the video ignoring it entirely
it's been reported internally
paper lily
weird, i'm not really fussed either way since it's a secondary benefit to the stated benefit regardless
potent echo
So Regen delay is only after you break out of melee / no longer have occupied slot
Out of all the classes I think zealots have it the roughest when trying to Regen toughness in ranged encounters
paper lily
eh you just take swift certainty and run at a slight angle
paper lily
i still use bolter and just magdump in their general direction
spice veldt
ranged enemies losing their will to fight the moment a gun is shot in their general direction
so sad
paper lily
bro... it's scary cmon
lethal lagoon
When you play LMB only staff and the vets on your team can't land a single headshot
🙂
paper lily
i'm ngl their movement during supression can be fucking annoying
supple dock
When you play LMB only staff and the vets on your team can't land a single heads...
literal troll
supple dock
protecting the team from firing their dangerous guns cause there's no targets available
lethal lagoon
Think of all the vets I've saved from blowing up from overusing their plasma.
I'm practically a hero
supple dock
l m a o
potent echo
Plasma has a dummy save mechanic where they auto vent from 100%
supple dock
wait do they
paper lily
yeah
well, unless they're using rmb for whatever reason
if your vet is killing themselves with plasma just
they have no hope ok
just none
dusky crag
take that anyway
stable silo
im def gonna but dammit i have really good illis and deimos swords
untold niche
don't need righteous warrior?
stable silo
guess im gonna have to try out the gunker build with a chain sword why not
whats teh build for that scriers gaze/distrupt destiny?
dusky crag
with assail and columnus mkv
dusky crag
personally I like the speed boost from scriers gaze
dusky crag
the nub off the aura perhaps?
supple dock
i was thinking something like this
Don't need quelling speed for a build like this imo
Surge and Smite in particular eat peril
everything else is w/e
stable silo
FAIR
lethal lagoon
I'D GRAB PC WITH ONE OF THE EXTRA POINTS, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY AN ELITE KILLER TYPE BUILD
ivory cloak
does +10% crit dmg work nicely on purgatus staff?
lethal lagoon
No.
Crit Dmg perks on weapons are largely useless
The point of critting on Purg is that it applies 2 soulblaze stacks.
ivory cloak
which perk would be useful on it other than 5% crit chance then?
potent echo
flak for sure
lethal lagoon
Flak would be preferred, maniac is another option.
potent echo
kills maulers/gunners/shotgunners/flakragers faster
my main purg drops 5% crit for maniac
sacred crane
this hurts to watch
ivory cloak
sure, thanks
lethal lagoon
this hurts to watch
We are respectful towards potatoes on this channel.
Rate french fries on a scale of 1 to 10
And it better be 10
sacred crane
i was thinking something like this
I recommend taking off solidity and puppet master as a scrier psyker and using it on mettle an toughness nodes, also switch out quietude for warp expenditure since you aren't going to be quelling peril that much as a scrier psyker, since with higher peril as a scrier you do more damage
I will say, solidity, puppet master and quietude are good nodes, but they aren't good when being a scrier psyker
wet belfry
not a potato
lyric burrow
Yeah id probably drop those for mettle and perilous combustion
lethal lagoon
He has mettle
sacred crane
Yeah id probably drop those for mettle and perilous combustion
Not perilous, perilous is horrible unless you are going full purge build
lyric burrow
Perilous is not horrible whm
lethal lagoon
Hottake just dropped
lyric burrow
It destroys elite packs
lethal lagoon
Imagine killing 3-4 shotgunners and then instantly killing almost everything around them
That's pure crap
wet belfry
i think purgatus is precisely when perilous is at its worst.
it doesnt proc off soulblaze kills.
sacred crane
Not in my opinion, for me it does such little damage that it is barely noticable
sacred crane
Nope, its way quicker to just prock scrier + columnus, go brrrr then yeah
lethal lagoon
What do you mean way quicker
They work at the same time
By defintion, that's way slower without PC
Also, you kill 2 elites and all non-elites around them will die. Which is kind of nice on that type of build.
sacred crane
By defintion, that's way slower without PC
i shoot them
they die
quickly
very fast
lethal lagoon
And they'd die faster with PC
sacred crane
And they'd die faster with PC
0.0035% faster
lethal lagoon
Reloading exists you know?
lyric burrow
Perilous will kill half an elite pack on its own for free which is absurd, you can shoot them to death with specifically columnus and some other guns but it saves ammo and work very well with assail or melee esp if your low on shards
There is almost 0 reason to not take it
lethal lagoon
And just to be clear, I'm only talking about auric mael/auric t5
lyric burrow
What would you take in its place even
lethal lagoon
PC is kinda of dookie without enough enemy densitity.
And I mean there are plenty of weaker auric maels where PC is kind of sleepy
But if you get a juiced one, it get's way stronger
sacred crane
Reloading exists you know?
reloading is not that slow
sacred crane
What would you take in its place even
Mettle, toughness/peril nodes, perfect timing or that one node that increasing warp damage when using non-warp attacks
OR THOSE DODGE NODES
lyric burrow
You take those and PC pretty freely
sacred crane
DODGE NODES ARE UNDERRATED ASF
lethal lagoon
Two 8 count shotgunner packs spawn, I kill 4 from mine, you kill 4 from yours.
I then switch to yours and get a total of 10 kills while you only get 6.
Assuming equal skill, PC is obviously a huge difference
sacred crane
for me, it barely does any damage whatsoever
lyric burrow
PC also has good value with uncanny weapons which is half of psykers melees
sacred crane
especially against armored enemies
sacred crane
PC also has good value with uncanny weapons which is half of psykers melees
my two main weapons have uncanny
lethal lagoon
for me, it barely does any damage whatsoever
I mean, you understand the example I just gave right?
sacred crane
I mean, you understand the example I just gave right?
my dog brain understood it at 60%
but still wouldn't use it
wet belfry
my two main weapons have uncanny
Uncanny benefits soulblaze
lethal lagoon
I rolled an Illy with tier 4 uncanny and slaughterer, it's my baby.
true lake
I rolled an Illy with tier 4 uncanny and slaughterer, it's my baby.
lucky ass
lethal lagoon
(ignore the perks, I was theorycrafting in the pysch).
true lake
thing must literally be a lawnmower against hordes
perks kinda silly but it's what it is
sacred crane
(ignore the perks, I was theorycrafting in the pysch).
lyric burrow
(ignore the perks, I was theorycrafting in the pysch).
they actually have a mod now so that you can set a weapon to be w/e you want
true lake
lmao
supple sedge
WHY SPARKHEAD NEVER SAY HOW MUCH FUN SMITE IS!?
paper lily
i've ben championing ep smite for al ike a week in here now
lethal lagoon
supple sedge
Stun entire horde of crushers
true lake
I prefer brain rupture, I was skeptical but man this build is making it feel more fun than it used to be all the way back in the early days
lethal lagoon
I've been championing EP smite ever since they finally fixed all the EP related bugs.
It really didn't need a buff
But thank you Bubble Smiters
paper lily
i started playing around the vet tree rework
i mean even that version of smite isn't even awful
people just like to cry
wahhh i have to w key to kill this horde
true lake
I will do the penance eventually
lethal lagoon
It took me 1.5 games to do the penance
true lake
when I feel like it I guess
paper lily
how many kills
lethal lagoon
2500, but it counts your teams
So like if I'm getting 1k(by myself) per game, it's free
paper lily
yeah that's basically 1 game
lethal lagoon
I was doing auric t5s to play with the changes, one juiced mael is probably enough honestly.
Or one long auric t5
Like one of the newer maps
If it really only counted your actual Smite kills, it might take a while
Lots of smite kills are PC or shriek
wet belfry
It takes like 5 to 6 points to make smite decent?
paper lily
i mean if u intend to smite i'd take both of its nodes and at least 1 point of ep
wet belfry
Battle med, 10% extra damage on smited targets, 1 point of ep is probably actually enough
So long as creeping flames is picked ofc
paper lily
i did try ep without the 3pt node and didn't like it personally
lethal lagoon
I think it's workable, but it takes too much brainpower
paper lily
ep smite is actually really point lax like you can take pretty much everything you want
lethal lagoon
That doesn't match with smite usage
unkempt hare
trying to figure out good blessings for gun psyker or should i just use something else?
paper lily
ur gonna wanna play a gun with good finesse modifiers, idk that guns values
like column or a vraks 7 or something
magic kayak
salvagable for blazing trauma? I figure swap flurry and infested?
lethal lagoon
salvagable for blazing trauma? I figure swap flurry and infested?
I would swap specialists
magic kayak
for flak or carapce?
paper lily
if ur intent is to mostly burn shit there's no point to run cara
magic kayak
thats true
lethal lagoon
flak + 5% crit chance is the default meta
So pick one, most would probably pick flak
magic kayak
ah ok that makes more sense, just want more burn events
lethal lagoon
Trauma is pretty mean when it comes to charge rate, I personally wouldn't use one at 67 and my standards are low
But it's worth trying to see if you even like it
magic kayak
im running this for rending trauma
paper lily
i'm dumb and run flurry with blaze anyway
magic kayak
yeah the charge is crap thats what worries me
lethal lagoon
I mean blaze trauma is dumb, I wouldn't be too worried.
Just keep in mind you pretty much have to peril edge
lethal lagoon
Yes
If I'm lazy I stick around 50-60%, but you pretty much always wanna cast at above 80.
magic kayak
what about for void? I can swap one blessing on here
I dont think the 1% crit chance is worth it at all so I figure swap unyielding but not sure to what
lethal lagoon
I mean you have true aim, so I would personally swap crit chance for carpace, but don't go off my opinion
I don't really like void, don't use it very often
magic kayak
I really dont either anymore to be honest
I use trauma and force if Im feeling lazy
err surge
magic kayak
especially with inner tranq
lethal lagoon
I just don't like how many points WS eats up, it remove build variability because you are so stretched.
supple dock
Yeaaah
It's brutal
For 0 reason
I honestly think it can do without the 30% toughness gen point
lethal lagoon
Remove base damage 4% or 6 stacks and make it native in my opinion
That's an option too
supple dock
cause 30% toughness gen sounds like a lot
lethal lagoon
Meh but the peril gen is nice so I dunno
lethal lagoon
Maybe the point of that 30% is so you can skip all other toughness gen nodes
Too bad they all are in the path of good nodes
supple dock
RIGHT
But even THEN
It's just... ugh
I have been poisoned by a certain SOMEONE and now I just run 90 toughness
Cause tbh it doesn't make all that much of a difference
lethal lagoon
Did you confuse me for someone else again?
supple dock
Not you
@abstract arch This chump
But yeah I run 0 survivability cause it doesn't matter imo
If you're in a position to die as psyker you're gonna die
Just don't get hit 
true lake
just use mind powers to say nuh uh