#psyker-class

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paper lily
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do u even need a macro

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can't u just tape lmb down

plucky flax
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I let a sniper live and he's just chilling.

upper sun
plucky flax
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No I need heavy for the heavy hitter.

paper lily
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yea if u tape it down u just gonna chain max charge heavies

plucky flax
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But if you miss the charge then it doesn't go up

paper lily
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either way 1 day they gonna fix qq h2 on mk4 knife

plucky flax
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They are not streaming in constantly enough.

patent wing
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penance doesnt even reward why u even do it

plucky flax
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I am close to 4500.

paper lily
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afk penance pts why not

plucky flax
paper lily
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he's not even impacting another player

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so who cares

plucky flax
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I guess bragging rights.

patent wing
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4500p outfits literally worst ive ver seen

marble crater
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What about the bots who are tied up for hours?

plucky flax
paper lily
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nah the blue outfits go hard

ornate hamlet
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the poor bots

plucky flax
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Bruh

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This popped up

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I can't even afk in peace

paper lily
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i mean ur already using a macro it probably just wants direction input

plucky flax
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Fuck this game

paper lily
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make it hold d against the wall

ornate hamlet
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the inquisitor caught on

plucky flax
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I'll put something heavy on d key

bold cape
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aint there an anti-afk mod?

plucky flax
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I'll look it up pogryn

patent wing
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there is afaik

bold cape
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im pr sure it can delay up to 10 afk checks default settings

plucky flax
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Hrm I want indefinitely though

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Let it run while I sleep

bold cape
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you might be able to change a config or something

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yea you can

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in the afk_data_lua file in the mod, you can edit the 10 max into something bigger
assuming you have notepad ++ or some other editor

paper lily
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u can just edit it in notepad

bold cape
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doesnt let me open it with notepad
youd prolly have to change it into a .txt and back

paper lily
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what do u mean by doesn't let u

bold cape
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oh you can do it with notepad, sorry im an idiot

upper sun
mellow prairie
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hello siblings hope you are having a wonderful day

ornate hamlet
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i hope you overcharge and blow up, other than that hope your having a good day too

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also been blowing up alot less, its like something clicked and now never happens

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constantly riding 100% though

upper sun
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i only blow up when using assail or surge

ornate hamlet
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with skriers?

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need to play some real gambling

upper sun
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with wall ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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i was doing penances

ornate hamlet
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all good im just up my own because im enjoying purg skriers to much

plucky flax
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2762/5000. I give up and go sleep. Bedge

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This shit is so annoying.

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(FS pls nerf these penances)

paper lily
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im at like 4k rn

upper sun
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i tried doing half a mission with the crab walk vet

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i gave up

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bring solo play

rigid sky
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Crab walkers don't know how to use MF properly :)

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Well

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Sometimes crab walking is properly

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But you know what I mean

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If you take camouflage it's easy mode

marble crater
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1708/2500 crab walk kills

upper sun
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200/2500 staregryn

upper sun
rigid sky
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What ranged are you using? Are you taking ex stance too?

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Ex stance helps a lot imo

upper sun
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i was doing voc toughness penance as well

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with colum brauto

rigid sky
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Yeah I feel like that's not a good setup

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CIAG works a lot better with it, IAGs in general really

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Or a headhunter or something

upper sun
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but they dont have to be headshots

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you just have to get a headshot every once n a blue moon

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keep in mind i got 200 kills in a sedation game while my entire team was killing everything else id say its not bad

rigid sky
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Helps maintaining stacks as well as actually getting joy from the keystone

upper sun
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joy?

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from vet?

rigid sky
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Hell yeah

upper sun
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sorry if i'm not using a shovel im not having fun

restive ice
upper sun
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nah its fine it kills stuff fast and i just wanted something with tons of ammo

plucky flax
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Graia has more ammo no?

spice veldt
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columnus brauto has highest total base damage per mag

upper sun
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idk thats what i had good rolls of

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its ok if i get lucky with an all malice bot game i can grind it out in no time

harsh urchin
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you're going to burn yourself out

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grinding achievements in low difficulty lol

upper sun
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i just wanted a mission without people

flat moat
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whats better for a trauma staff, warp nexus or flurry?

upper sun
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warp nexus+blazing spirit is better another option is flurry+ brittleness

strong gulch
upper sun
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this is from the guide pinned here

rigid sky
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You still want damage on Blaze trauma btw

upper sun
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yeah

rigid sky
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But it is otherwise good

upper sun
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also quell is kinda better than warp res isnt it

strong gulch
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If you prefer to use trauma as utility to set up melee, there is rending shockwave + blazing spirit that requires true aim to proc blazing spirit. That is way more niche tho and more of a melee build. Arco like it.

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I prefer blaze trauma.

flat moat
ornate hamlet
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trauma gives me trauma

upper sun
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trauma gives me ear trauma

strong gulch
rigid sky
upper sun
ornate hamlet
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your character after so long of useing it has devloped hearing loss

upper sun
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that explains the silent trappers

strong gulch
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That explains the silcent trappers.

ornate hamlet
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really both of you went to trappers and not bursters

upper sun
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u owe me a soda

ornate hamlet
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sharing a single braincell

upper sun
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hell yeah

strong gulch
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both of us are orange cats

ornate hamlet
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you know what, checks out

ionic atlas
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finally got 1 mil damage threshold

terse saffron
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if only all those chores counted retroactively Sitgryn

plucky flax
terse saffron
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it took a lot of shouting at dog packs and shooting the ground at the start of mission whatthefuck_heresy

plucky flax
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Based griefer. whatthefuck_heresy

terse saffron
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also didnt even notice i got that as mission drop is it any good on psyker?

strong gulch
dusky crag
terse saffron
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also oil barrels dont fucking count for some reason despite the stats being clearly logged as shown in scoreboard mod

dusky crag
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fire damage killing them idk

supple dock
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the reason i replied to you was because your name was the first i saw

dusky crag
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what's the most annoying psyker penance out of the new lot

strong gulch
terse saffron
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but i guess thats an immesurably complex feature to implement

strong gulch
terse saffron
terse saffron
dusky crag
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Surprisingly not that bad I just grouped a horde on high intensity and did it with a columnus mkv

strong gulch
terse saffron
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huh???

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just jump into the hardest maelstrom you see first and the possibility of having teammates capable of wiping entire rooms clean from all sides during horde is close to 0

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you dont even need to grief anyone just run a regular gunker build with assail so you can get that off the board too

strong gulch
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Wide open maps and other players killing things can make killing 40 enemies in during SG more difficult.

terse saffron
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how many tries did it take you to complete the penance? at what difficulty?

marble crater
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I don't like wide, open maps, they are too wide and too open

dusky crag
strong gulch
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Took a few tries on casual difficulties. The annoying part is consistently being just shy of the 40.

marble crater
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Hah, I was stuck on 20 the entire time and then completed it with enemies to spare KEKW_ogryn

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Silly penance

dusky crag
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Yeah I killed like 60-70 enemies in the time I got it

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It was kinda amusing

upper sun
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also took me a few tries on random maps but got it for the first time on oblvium station

strong gulch
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No Brunt. No.

marble crater
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If you only look at the left it looks really good

strong gulch
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Ye

vernal temple
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I'm convinced that this is probably the easiest auric maelstorm for a smite/bubble psyker.
I've done two of these and my fragile ass hasn't died once

marble crater
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Specials and Hunting Ground should also be easy for smite and bubble

cinder moon
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hunting grounds ultra ez for smite

vernal temple
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is hunting grounds just waves of dogs?

bold cape
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i thought yall were overexaggerating the smite brainrot but no its real

upper sun
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or muties

bold cape
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literally one pox walker? smite 3Head

lethal lagoon
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True brainrot is having 0 crits and 0 weakspots

bold cape
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this guy got like no dmg and died three times cause he didnt press any other button than smite

vernal temple
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man, I use smite and it pains me seeing psykers who spam that shit on any enemy. had some doofus the other day who used only smite through the entire mission

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surrounded my poxwalkers? smite
crushers? smite

marble crater
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Was his name OnlySmites? weird

vernal temple
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lmao

terse saffron
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he might've wanted the penance

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every poxwalker counts KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
bold cape
lethal lagoon
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Well except when I carried that guy in an auric mael duo

marble crater
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That Chaos guy? Yeah

lethal lagoon
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I have a video of me carrying him Evilge

vernal temple
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literally carrying UwU

marble crater
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I saw, but I didn't watch it KEKW_ogryn

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Or I saw his? Not sure

lethal lagoon
upper sun
lethal lagoon
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And hide everything else

bold cape
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having a little trouble getting used to the staffs
my brain is like hardwired to melee

marble crater
vernal temple
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my dumb ass still sometimes tries to quell while wielding a duelling sword KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
marble crater
vernal temple
bold cape
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every time i pop i go like "goddammit i must look like an absolute idiot"

lethal lagoon
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Whenever I see a psyker pop early I tell them it's okay, it happens to men of all ages

vernal temple
marble crater
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When I see a psyker explode and I also play psyker I judge them for it

lethal lagoon
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Right, if they explode skill issue, if I expode, I was busy carrying the team on my back

marble crater
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If I explode I forgot I don't have shriek on this build

lethal lagoon
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Who here has exploded because a mutant grabbed you before you shrieked?

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That should kill the mutant in my opinion

vernal temple
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Me

lethal lagoon
vernal temple
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that happened to me, but it didn't kill the mutant

lethal lagoon
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I'm saying it should

vernal temple
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yeah, true

marble crater
lethal lagoon
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That was pretty anime

vernal temple
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I should really try the trauma staff, but I can't be bothered with getting the proper blessings for it

lethal lagoon
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Blaze Trauma is kinda dookie if you don't have a great roll.

vernal temple
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Surge staff my beloved

marble crater
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Just get a great roll, 5head

vernal temple
vernal temple
marble crater
cold ivy
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i will soon be trying EP smite spam for the penance... pray for me

marble crater
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No, I won't pray for smite spammer

lethal lagoon
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It's they who need to pray

marble crater
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What was the word on shriek hight?

lethal lagoon
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same as horizontal

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Giant Ice Cream Cone of the Warp

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Held by a SouthPark character

marble crater
lethal lagoon
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Vertical postion effects the cone, vertical direction doesn't seem to.

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So jumping is usually a good idea

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I need to redo that piece of art so the psyker is scaled

lethal lagoon
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If you look up shriek don't go up

cold ivy
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wait... i already have the smite kills even though i rarely smite

lethal lagoon
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If you jump, shriek go up

cold ivy
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are some other kills already counting for smite?

marble crater
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wdym That... doesn't make any sense

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Why is it like that?

lethal lagoon
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It's how it was tested Shrug

lethal lagoon
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I think

marble crater
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Didn't surge kills also count?

lethal lagoon
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Oh that's possible, it's still named smite

cold ivy
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oh yeah i basically only run surge lol

empty trellis
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Yo can someone help me get the storm witch redemption armor in private game I just need to kill a boss and do 50 percent of the damage

marble crater
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I can in a bit

empty trellis
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Thank you gng๐Ÿ™

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Yo nvr mind Iโ€™ll try I later thx anyway

marble crater
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Okay

pine shore
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Are surge staves good compared to the other 3?

lethal lagoon
cinder moon
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almost forgor, what did you find

pine shore
marble crater
pine shore
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I hate surge for some reason

lethal lagoon
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Here's the "Orthodox" Surge build

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Spam Surge and Flaming shriek, fairly straightforward

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Flaming shriek will kill all horde, bruisers, and ranged mobs.

lethal lagoon
pine shore
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but why smite

lethal lagoon
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The illusion you could aim it down or up was because the semi-circle/cone

upper sun
lethal lagoon
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Nein

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That's not it

upper sun
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ja

marble crater
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doch

pine shore
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wouldn't assail be best

lethal lagoon
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You wanna be spamming flaming shriek

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Like 30-50% of your damage should be soulfire

strong gulch
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If you want to be petty, wildfire can help spread your soul blaze so the other psyker on the team gets their soul blaze stolen.

lethal lagoon
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Yes, soulstealer for wildfire, or KD for wildfire

pine shore
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and also why warp siphon, sounds counter productive

lethal lagoon
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Warp siphon lowers cooldown and Surge is an elite killer

pine shore
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I want to spam flame shriek, but that makes me lose all my charges

lethal lagoon
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Plus PC and warpfire kill steals

pine shore
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Why would I want to lose charges

lethal lagoon
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To cast flaming shriek faster

marble crater
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To spam more shriek

upper sun
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so you can make more charges

cinder moon
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creeping flames obviously applies along a horizontal plane, but i'm not convinced the force vector does not go in the direction the player is looking when they vent

upper sun
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gotta spend charges to make charges

lethal lagoon
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Shriek is bae

pine shore
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Then what's the point in 6 max charges

lethal lagoon
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If you are killing fast enough, you'll get 6 pretty often

pine shore
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There's no way Ill be able to keep them at 6

cinder moon
lethal lagoon
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Maybe I misunderstood what you meant

dire marsh
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im seeing a lot of hate for psykers who use smite, when exactly are you supposed to use it then

lethal lagoon
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Not with bubble

cinder moon
lethal lagoon
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That said, there's still hate because it's braindead and the game isn't built for it.

pine shore
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idk, sounds weird. You waste 1 point on useless 4% damage you'll never use and a point on 6 charges that you'll not always see

marble crater
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Use it when there are a bunch of ragers or crushers and you would otherwise die

lethal lagoon
pine shore
lethal lagoon
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It's tough to gauge distance in the game

supple dock
lethal lagoon
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Look, next time you see an enemy high up, about 20 meters away, aim shriek straight at the ground and see if it lights him on fire.

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That's all you gotta do

pine shore
cinder moon
late night
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is there a way to consistently one shot dissablers with surge staff

upper sun
marble crater
lethal lagoon
late night
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like which one shots

upper sun
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trapper

supple dock
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However!

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If you DON'T play Auric/Maelstrom

upper sun
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hound is infested so it wont apply

supple dock
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4 charges will be fine

lethal lagoon
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Yeah, keep in mind all discussion here is by default auric mael/auric t5

supple dock
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Yee, sometimes we'll get carried away thinking everyone's on the same level at times

pine shore
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So the entire point is to use shriek for wave clear

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correct?

supple dock
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Nope!

pine shore
marble crater
lethal lagoon
supple dock
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You have wave clear, peril safety, anti dog button that can go through walls, anti crusher button when allies are cornered.. am I missing anything?

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You have a button that can clear all danger in a direction from mispositioning

lethal lagoon
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The primary purpose is to up your DPS though

marble crater
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Stagger button for gunners

supple dock
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but that's pedantic

lethal lagoon
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I mean 9/10 vents will be for DPS

supple dock
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yee

lethal lagoon
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That's extra pedantic

pine shore
supple dock
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Lmaoo

marble crater
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How often? Yes

ornate hamlet
supple dock
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That's literally it

lethal lagoon
pine shore
supple dock
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Because it's more than just clear, but it does that the best

lethal lagoon
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Because he wanted to confuse you

supple dock
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and if you pidgeonhold yourself into JUST that mentality

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You lose a lot of the other versatility

marble crater
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I have shrieked 4 enemies before, because it sounded like the horde was there, but the horde was above me in the ceiling chadgryn

pine shore
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understandable, but shriek would become my main horde clear

supple dock
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Correct

pine shore
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That's why I said that

supple dock
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Sorry, I just wanted to be extra clear and or pedantic

pine shore
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As for melee I'm thinking deimos

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Or dueling sword

marble crater
pine shore
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Deimos probably would be better

marble crater
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For surge/smite an Illisi

pine shore
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oops

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not deimos

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yes

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Illisi

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Deimos is the other one

marble crater
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Or knife, or DS2 KEKW_ogryn

supple dock
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DS4 works just fine with that build too since the only real weakness it has is killing mutants

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And the DS4 covers that perfectly

pine shore
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This surge should do

supple dock
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But if you just want a force sword then run it, it's really just min/maxing at that point

bold cape
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ive been using ds4 with surge smite
i love the weapon

supple dock
lethal lagoon
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ds4 is bae NODDERS

supple dock
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I'm a knife bro

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fuckin love that shit

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swish swish

late night
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whats dump stat on surge

pine shore
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I miss the double triple whatever damage bug from EP so much

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It was so fun playing with surge two shotting crushers

lethal lagoon
marble crater
late night
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ty

pine shore
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Quell speed is prob the least important

supple dock
lethal lagoon
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My ideal staff would be 80 dam, 80 warp, 80 charge, 70 quell, 70 crit bonus.

supple dock
pine shore
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My ideal staff would be 80 dam, 80 warp, 80 charge, 80 quell, 80 crit bonus.

bold cape
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why use force sword over duelling with surge/smite? just curious

marble crater
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Because you want to, there are several options

supple dock
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The extra cushion to safely deal with some enemies is nice, not to mention it's easier to 1shot a mutant with deimos over DS4

marble crater
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Illisi for best horde clear, because you already have something for big guys

supple dock
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And if you're using illisi, It provides the ability to smite the horde and get a cleave or two off while your ult is on cd

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And it can still 1shot gunners and shotgunners and stuff

pine shore
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Shriek might not always be available, it's a cooldown

lethal lagoon
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Illy is also very chill to use, matches how easy to use surge and shriek and smite are.

pine shore
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Ilisi has best horde and isn't bad everywhere else

supple dock
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Yee, DS4 is more sweaty

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It allows you to do more overall but you have to work harder for it

marble crater
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Illisi is still okay at killing muties even

supple dock
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yee, 2 shots and if you have a low roll a light or three

bold cape
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i see, ill try it out then
i like ds4 cause i like that sort of complex melee
also sabers and such are just cool

pine shore
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DS4 is difficult to use for horde

cinder moon
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just light spam into horde

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it's not hard

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use heavies on bruisers

pine shore
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And this build is great at everything, but has no horde killing power other than shriek

pine shore
cinder moon
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just dodge

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why would you not

pine shore
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You need to use pushes and dodges a lot

long wharf
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does anyone remember a psyker premium cosmetic with blue glowing goggles?

bold cape
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tbf i do dodge and push with any weapon just kind of instinctively

cinder moon
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who actually stands still to do horde clear

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like

bold cape
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i like to schmoove and dodge around the horde as i swing into it

marble crater
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Ogryn with shield has such short dodges he might as well be standing still KEKW_ogryn

long wharf
lethal lagoon
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Recently

long wharf
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just saw someone with them, and they look really cool

lethal lagoon
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Maybe like march or feb

pine shore
lethal lagoon
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or apiril

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It was definitely recent

pine shore
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literally w + m1

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nothing else

bold cape
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i enjoy weapons that require a bit more
like the bret ls in vt2 was my fav weapon, it had different combos for pretty much any situation

cinder moon
pine shore
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ok you can stand still

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not much changes

cinder moon
late night
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is it bc of class buffs

marble crater
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You can definitely one shot some specials when you have some buffs, not sure which though, I just know that I have one shot them during missions loregryn

late night
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im assuming warp rider and perfect timing

pine shore
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also warp charges

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Not hard to have all 3

late night
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running ep

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ill try a warp build

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if surge cant one shot anything useful it feels really garbage

pine shore
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I feel like surge deals no damage

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I never liked it

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But I see people saying it's great and I see people running it more than even trauma

late night
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yea i mean on paper

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it looks fucking ass

pine shore
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And I think trauma is THE best staff

late night
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i think ppl like it bc of how easy it is to use

marble crater
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Surge is great

pine shore
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To me surge always feels just barely ok

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by far the worst of the staves

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Maybe smite + charges will make it better

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Need to use it more

marble crater
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Worst is purgatus, imo, for how immobile you are compared to the others

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Surge on the other hand, very mobile

bold cape
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idk if i like giving up my weakspot damage on ds4 to use the illisi

marble crater
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If you don't have a problem with hordes, then you don't have to

bold cape
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yea i think imma stick with the ds

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not only is it good it just
feels great

lethal lagoon
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I will say Illy feels realllly good on lower diffs if you can get slaughterer on it.

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One of my favorite parts of leveling was just blitzing a malice with Illy.

strong gulch
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I've been enjoying EP BB with blaze trauma. Peril generation is more aggressive, but it's manageable.

ornate hamlet
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which dueling sword are you saying feels good, if you say ds4 i will throw a brick at you... its just light spam horde and heavy spam anything else, so simple an ogryn cn use it effectivly

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๐Ÿงฑ staregryn

lethal lagoon
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4 is the obvious choice, 5 let's you zoom, 2 is if you hate yourself

bold cape
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all of them are cool but yes, ds4 feels the best
double stab feels very nice

ornate hamlet
cinder moon
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2 is fun

bold cape
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going around stabbing everything in the face is great

cinder moon
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big cutlass vibes

ornate hamlet
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2 is fun

bold cape
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and the lights are serviceable

cinder moon
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lights are good for hordes

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can loop h1/alt for single target

marble crater
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I use DS2 for Surge/Smite, because I wanted the mobility of DS4 with better horde clear, and because all my knives were bricked

ornate hamlet
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i use ds4 when i want to feel lobotimised, probably a good pair with the surge smite vent brain rot build

bold cape
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oh hey look at that thats what im using rn

ornate hamlet
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lmao

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use at own risk

bold cape
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i wanna play gun psyker but i wanna get all my talent points first
also i hate being the guy who eats all the ammo

ornate hamlet
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trust me, the less ammo your plasma vet gets the better

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dont let them fool you into thinking their doing a nice thing

bold cape
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melee is my favorite thing so i started with zealot, but went to psyker as a break
ds4 with scriers gaze on a gun psyker build looks awesome

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tho surge staff is helping the fact that i cant aim for shit

cinder moon
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there's always purg

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don't need to really aim that either

bold cape
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staffs arent my favorite as a whole
was never much a staff person in vt2
surge kinda gets a pass cause lightning is cool

lethal lagoon
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Staves get a lot better at meta, cause their atk spd and peril usage scale heavily with stats.

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Especially trauma

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Terrible design choice unlocking that at 11

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50% peril usage to do 0 damage was basically trauma in the beta for me lmao

bold cape
#

yeah i used it when i got it and it was just like, โ€œbruhโ€

lethal lagoon
#

Here's 80 vs 53 blast radius on trauma

supple dock
#

using that weapon caused trauma to the user tbh

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I used it and I was just like

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man this fucking sucks

lethal lagoon
#

I'm so used to games having magic that was either OP or complete shit, and so I just used BB 99% of the time while leveling assuming staves were complete shit.

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In fact for a while people would kick psykers if they wern't using Surge at t5 because everyone thought the staves were just awful, but at least surge gave CC.

supple dock
#

Thankfully I never experienced it that badly

lethal lagoon
#

And then surge visual bug started blinding people, and other staves finally got used.

supple dock
#

flashbangs for everyone

lethal lagoon
#

Including yourself?

supple dock
#

one must suffer for art

ornate hamlet
strong gulch
#

@lethal lagoon Speaking of low rolled blast radius, the other psyker had low rolls but was doing LMB spam when their trauma was used. They were putting transfer peril to work. I hope they set surge trauma soon.

strong gulch
#

I could have joined the LMB spam, but I was BB main.

strong gulch
#

CONTEXT lol

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congrats!

untold niche
mellow prairie
#

please god-emperor give me deflector iv

dusky crag
#

I just want the crit chance blessing and that's... good?

supple dock
#

Riposte?

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Cause Riposte is good

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Or Warp Nexus

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Cause that's also good

dusky crag
#

yeah warp nexus

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I don't even know if surge is good on trauma but it seems funny so

strong gulch
#

yes. LMB spam let's gooo

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Surge only works the LMB / primary. Embrace the meme.

supple dock
#

BUT WHAT ABOUT RENDING naw that shit sucks comparitively

lethal lagoon
strong gulch
#

LMB mains whatthefuck_heresy

supple dock
#

more like nursing home mains

strong gulch
#

It's top damage. It's meta. It's good.

lethal lagoon
#

It generates so much supression it's downright comical and causes vets to miss plasma shots

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What's better as a psyker than ruining a vet's day?

supple dock
strong gulch
#

HOWEVER. Keep that staff for memes.

lethal lagoon
#

I also think staff lmb is the only time the weakspot/crit perk is good

supple dock
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hmmm

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I mean I have wrecked beast of nurgle with LMB quell cancelling

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But that's about it

lethal lagoon
#

I don't think that's possible, it doesn't do real unyielding damage

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But I do 1 shot gunners with scrier's

supple dock
#

it does quite a bit if you hit the egg

lethal lagoon
#

It does not last I checked

supple dock
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I SWEAR I see the hp bar tank

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I could be fucking crazy

strong gulch
#

Trauma nexus + surge LMB spam.

supple dock
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I could be, I will not discredit that

lethal lagoon
#

I remember the chart, the unyielding damage on LMB is weirdly low

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It's very bizzare

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I wonder if it's a bug like how surge used to do no real damage to bosses

mellow prairie
supple dock
ornate hamlet
dusky crag
#

If I'm entirely honest I don't play anywhere near enough psyker but Hestia offered me penance points so how can I refuse

mellow prairie
#

that sh*t shreds for no reason

ornate hamlet
#

its like 20 gunners

mellow prairie
#

other high damage stuff I can dodge. The gunners always take me by unawares or something

ornate hamlet
#

1 gunner no problem

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the entire room

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will just ignore your team and gun at you sometimes, rather annoying

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threat system is wack

lethal lagoon
#

Trust me there was a time I agreed with you until I actually checked the damage I was doing.

ornate hamlet
#

praise be to scoreboard mod

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some one in here awhile ago told me you could just "feel" how your doing

bold cape
#

i told myself i wasnt gonna install it cause it made me self conscious in vt2 but it also helps me gauge whether or not what im doing is working so i dont develop habits or use something bad, and whatnot

ornate hamlet
#

i cant remember what i said but i lef tthe server because i couldnt believe how stupid of a take it was

ornate hamlet
#

dont pick up plasteel though

bold cape
#

yeah ik i just feel awful if im not pulling my weight or do dumb shit

ornate hamlet
#

๐Ÿงฑ staregryn

bold cape
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no matter the game if i do the worst i feel like shit about it
which isnโ€™t a great mentality to have but it is what it is

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i feel like my standards for myself are a bit too high but this is not the time or place to talk about that lmao

ornate hamlet
#

i get it, scoreboard helps though because you get to see how your standards apply to other people (they fail miserably)

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talking 30 plasteel picked up entire match 80k dmg

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now if you were 200 plasteel picked up its forgivable

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but 30

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i may have a gambling addiction

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need plasteel

strong gulch
#

highest plasteel is the carry

ornate hamlet
#

100%

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praise be to knife zealots

bold cape
#

itโ€™s like
ill often do best or 2nd best but when i do i dont feel good about it, i just feel like im doing what is expected of me
but when i do badly its the inverse, i feel very negatively about it

ornate hamlet
#

eh you owe nothing to your randoms beside the minimal of matching them, if you go beyond that its a bonus

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besides save all that negativity for all the bricks hadron is gonna give you

bold cape
#

im going to take personal delight in not interacting with crafting

lethal lagoon
bold cape
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pffft nice

lethal lagoon
#

I think he got up to 400k, I don't remember exactly

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But it was funny to see

dusky crag
#

I like that the shield damage blocked stops tracking after a while thats neat

mellow prairie
#

do better rolls (not the stats, but the rolls for the perk/blessings) get better as you level up

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cuz all i"m seeing are III's. I haven't seen a IV yet

dusky crag
#

yeah

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well

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to 30

mellow prairie
#

yeah i'm 28

lethal lagoon
#

But being lvl 30 doesn't give you better rolls

mellow prairie
lethal lagoon
#

So if you upgrade old items, they have the same odds

dusky crag
#

from there the higher the gear level teh higher chance of tier 4 blessings

lethal lagoon
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That's not true, if you get a 360-370 at 29, it will often roll tier 2s

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I've leveled too many characters

dusky crag
#

you're joking

lethal lagoon
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Brunt's store is complicated, but Blunt's armory if you buy from it at 30, it will more likely roll higher tiers than if you bought from it at 29, same rating.

potent echo
#

That guy is bullshit hard to iframe

lethal lagoon
#

Nioh had same random difficulty spikes

untold niche
#

like wooden weapons, no guardian or anything

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:v

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even oryki is easier than him

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(exaggeration)

lethal lagoon
#

Nioh has to have the worst gatekeeping I've ever seen in a game to use magic

dusky crag
#

I must say none of these penances are that bad to do. Not a terrible grind

lethal lagoon
#

Krak grenade one for vet seems like the one I will literally never do

dusky crag
#

any flak enemy counts

cinder moon
#

those ones are just designed to get done over time

supple dock
strong gulch
spice veldt
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just spend every living second of your life playing this game

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it's just that shrimple

supple dock
#

But when I do the best it just feels like I'm doing what I should be doing, not that I did better

ionic sorrel
#

Anyone wanna do an all psyker auric mal?

strong gulch
#

arctopus!! ๐Ÿ˜‚

spice veldt
#

hi potato

bold cape
spice veldt
#

my rationale is that it's public matchmaking so it's whatevs whether people perform well or whatnot

supple dock
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Always need more

spice veldt
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people signed the contract to voluntarily publically matchmake instead of being in a group and should just suck it it up if they get people who don't perform as expected

supple dock
#

Every time I play I need to perform better than I did, and if I don't then I'm a failure

bold cape
#

even when i play with my bf and i know for a fact he doesnโ€™t care how well i do, itโ€™s the same thing that happens

supple dock
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Or not even games

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Just in general. Need more. Need better.

bold cape
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yea itโ€™s just how i was raised

supple dock
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That's my nature unfortunately

lethal lagoon
bold cape
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anything below As was unacceptable, As were never enough, AP classes were expected

lethal lagoon
bold cape
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that whole kinda deal

ionic sorrel
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High School was so long ago, I don't fully remember.

lethal lagoon
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I don't fully remember either, but that's cause I was snoring in class. (allegdly, I never heard it)

bold cape
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i was in all ap honors classes and in the top few in my high school for a few years but i burnt out hard with depression, bullying etc and ended up dropping out in the last year

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so yea thatโ€™s pretty epic

ionic sorrel
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That's a bummer, hope things are better now.

lethal lagoon
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School being an artifical social enviroment really hurt a lot of people

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In real life if someone treats you like a bully does, they go to jail or you get an HR payout.

bold cape
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why i mainly stay away from competitive/pvp games nowadays
i spent so long constantly competing in ranked, school and really every part of life that i forgot to live
even now i subconsciously treat everything like a competition, even tho i hate that i do

mental grail
#

Recon lasguns are so cool

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I run them in malice simply because I want to use them without being dead weight KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
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3rd person mod with recon lasgun

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Pew pew

dusky crag
#

I did lucky blow in one game?
I thought it'd take more than t hat

hexed geyser
#

Hadron? What did i do to please you like that?

dense valley
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This on melk shop rn

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can rampage on this ever be proced

cosmic sigil
supple dock
# dense valley This on melk shop rn

Yeah, it used to be only the push attack but they made normal attacks able to cleave now which idk why they'd add rampage to it before being able to properly cleave but yeah it can with lights now

dense valley
lethal lagoon
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Collecting t4s is always worth it if you have at least 3k left after for emergency BiS buys

dense valley
#

aight thx still got about 4k this thing cost 2k

supple dock
#

a usable t4 blessing is vworth melk money

late night
#

Does psyker just do less damage as a class to elites and specials

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Iโ€™ve tried all staves and none of them feel like they do much dmg compared to other classes

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The blessings also feel crit reliant which is annoying

spice veldt
#

we do lack a staff equivalent to a gun

elder parrot
# supple dock Every time I play I need to perform better than I did, and if I don't then I'm a...

Same for me. And that's the way I like it
You see this trait of yours as a flaw? The drive and desire to learn and improve that lies at the center of your game mentality? Absurd.
Your only flaw is perhaps judging yourself too harshly when you fail to meet your own expectations. That you go beyond judgement and critical self-reflection and perhaps stray into condemning and defining your success by whether or not you meet your goals. That's an error of luxury though. It ultimately stems from a true and positive human quality.

Perhaps the best approach to this negative image you hold of your human nature is to shift your priorities a bit to reflect the actual values here? If criteria for whether or not success lies not in achieving your guesstimate scoreboard improvements, but rather whether or not, (to the best of your honest self-judgements) you in your game succeeded in the actual conscious endeavour of improving? Did you try your best? Did you attempt to adopt improvements you thought of after your reflections on past games? Did you maintain a constructive and goal-pursuant mindset or did you lapse into the mindset of tiltery negativity?

If you can honestly look at a game and say with sincerity that you tried as best you could, learned a little bit in every case of a fuckup play and if you treated human beings in-game with respect and understanding - if you can say that you met these criteria.

Then it doesn't matter what the fuck the post game headline says - that's a goddamn win son

Now stop being sad at having such a great character quality. Go game and be proud of being a gamer who's got the mindset of a man who hasn't peaked yet.

spice veldt
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but psyker can delete elites and specials pretty well

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just that if you're coming from other classes, you might have to adjust a bit more depending on the build used

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one day, we will get a warp glock

late night
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I keep going back to revolver and Columnus lol

late night
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Maybe Iโ€™ll try surge again

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Bps feel pretty bad tho ngl

plucky flax
#

Play with creeping flames and warp charges

late night
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Will do

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I tried the ep smite surge atlas suggested earlier

worldly iron
#

any good tips for Perilous Focus?

lethal lagoon
# late night Will do

This is for Surge staff focus. Can switch Soulstealer or KD for wildfire if you want. Earlier Build I linked is like 80% EP smite.

worldly iron
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@plucky flax Thanks

plucky flax
queen trout
#

Doorknob if your in here gg, my chat was broken

rigid sky
#

I think if you take the bad version of scrier's gaze the penance is easier

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but I almost got it by accident with the good version already without really meaning to (38/40 lmao)

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just play normally with SG and you'll get it, presuming you like SG

mental grail
#

Every time someone mentions dropping millions rolling weapons i just

plucky flax
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Just be more rich PainsChamp

fading galleon
#

Any particular tricks for the scriers gaze penance?

supple dock
#

I've also heard the Illisi was a great weapon for it

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blessed curio

plucky flax
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Not 21 sadCat

supple dock
#

yeah

plucky flax
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Bruh I just joined a game in progress. Grabbed by mutie immediately, then thrown off a ledge.

mental grail
#

I cleared that penance in the first attempt with that method.

fair spruce
radiant frigate
patent wing
plucky flax
patent wing
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but who am i to talk, i use healthbars on elites and specials too

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i just dont have the big kill feed and and i dont look at buffs anyway

plucky flax
#

Poor 2 vets starving for ammo. SadgeCry

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
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It was achylys spammer.

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Kickbackk would do way more damage than me.

lethal lagoon
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Oh I was thinking nice job beating the kickback

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I take back my kind thoughts

plucky flax
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I was playing blaze trauma too.

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Really bad staff.

prime stone
#

hello anyone wanna help me with monstrallum penance..

patent wing
#

did you play the ranged scab yesterday?

prime stone
#

ill pay with love

patent wing
#

EP assail goated for that modifier

plucky flax
#

No I hate that modifier. It's always ventilation purge.

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I'm free today to play though.

#

My man willingly put tb on this purgatus and running bubble smite with it. pogryn

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Not even t4 smh

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He died and left 2 mins into the game Xd

bold cape
#

there are two kinds of smite users lmao

plucky flax
#

Bubble smite FeelsGoodMan

bold cape
#

guy got three weakspot hits
i dont think i saw them use anything else the whole match lmao

plucky flax
#

Proper way to play smite yesgryn

fair spruce
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I enjoy the idea, same as it's a blast to go into a mission one-weaponing the grenade gauntlet as both melee and ranged

upper sun
#

bruh i swear redditers are something else

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why bring relic to sniper purge and then complain about snipers

patent wing
#

bruh hes the mobile shield giving u cover

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u have to deal with em KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
#

i played a bunch of vent purge on zealot and what are you gonna do with relic? stand around let allies tank one more sniper shot?

patent wing
#

yes

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wait it does not give invuln anymore right

upper sun
#

on zealot with golden toughness you wont even get to zero with a sniper shot

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im not sure about psyker tho

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i think youll still get some hp damage vet has iron will bullshit so theyll be fine

thin finch
supple dock
upper sun
potent echo
#

They have to run over slowly swinging their evis wildly before they get the dog off you

upper sun
#

like you really dont even have to shoot them just legit run slide to them

near wyvern
#

It was fun while it lasted

queen fog
#

The glorious days of infinite smite were fun too thumbsup_ogryn

#

Glitched EP was a sight to behold

round gull
#

Why when I use assail I almost never get crits even tho I aim

#

It makes me sick

queen fog
#

Sometimes the slight angle of the travel time can skew the assailโ€™s direction, or itโ€™s just the tracking going bonkers

paper lily
#

u mean headshots right

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i mean it's a proj just aim higher so it can pretty much only hit head

round gull
#

And why does it take ages to hit?

patent steeple
ocean sonnet
#

anyone wanna help me do the psyker boss penance?

patent steeple
potent echo
#

Make assail into zealot throwing knives KEKW_ogryn

jovial juniper
#

I always thought it was the vent acting up and creating ambience noise

potent echo
#

I'm guessing the devs wouldn't want any overlap

round gull
#

:[

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Guys what's better max health or max toughness?

lethal lagoon
#

HP allows for mistakes, toughness allows for aggressiveness. Of course, purposeful mistakes allows for aggressiveness.

stuck sinew
#

HP also helps for the rare times people get grims

lethal lagoon
#

I've blocked out those memories while playing psyker

stuck sinew
#

Seen people pick them up more lately, for penance I guess

upper sun
#

they're a pain when you play vet or psyker

round gull
#

I always die :[

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Maybe health will help me

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Idk if it's because I'm bad or because of the lack of comunication

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And that people don't defend others

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When I'm using BB no one defends me ;_;

upper sun
#

you can precharge BB when you hear a dog or smth

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you wont need defending if you use it around a corner

round gull
#

But when I saw someone and I want to kill him i have to charge it

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When I don't see it comming

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Or when I'm reducing my peril

round gull
upper sun
#

either use cover or get it to lock then charge it up behind a wall

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its kinda rough juggling that many actions per second

#

i rarely use BB anymore

rigid sky
#

It really helps to have a speed booster on it

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Resonance, EP or a blue syringe

upper sun
#

like purge/wall/BB is kinda rough on your fingers

upper sun
round gull
upper sun
#

flyer?

rigid sky
upper sun
#

its not so good imo

round gull
cosmic sigil
#

Every game I play blaze trauma I feel like I am softening every mob for other people to kill

rigid sky
#

But tbh I don't mind thay

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Trauma is a control tank

round gull
upper sun
#

i use illisi/void/smite/vent/DD or same only trauma/warp siphon

rigid sky
#

Brain rupture is still good though, but it's clunky without the supports

paper lily
#

u gotta remember toughness can only protect 1 hit with 100% dmg reduction on hp

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if u find urself getting ur shit beat up with multiple hits it won't help

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0hits if u got shot by anything

round gull
#

The keystone

paper lily
#

warp syphon is just a lazy buff

cosmic sigil
rigid sky
#

Yeah, toughness regeneration is key for Psyker

paper lily
#

u kill elite get a charge up to 4/6 and then spend it with ur ult

rigid sky
#

Siphon is mostly about ult spam

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With a few bonus extras

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And some bonus damage

upper sun
paper lily
#

there's only 1 interesting choice with siphon and it's holding charges for peril reduction on something like surge spam

#

extra dmg is probably negligible

upper sun
#

nah extra damage is great on surge

paper lily
#

i use it, but it feels more like a tacked on bonus

#

it's not 'interesting' persay

rigid sky
#

I only use siphon on purgatus

paper lily
#

the peril reduction is immediately noticeable

rigid sky
#

Because of the soulfire synergy

upper sun
#

simon or whats his name here prolly has 17 charts with breakpoints for siphon non crit one taps

rigid sky
#

I don't take inner tranq on it either

paper lily
#

cba with that kinda stuff

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i already kill everything on surge build

plucky flax
rigid sky
#

My other builds are 2 DD, 2 EP

plucky flax
#

Could be just playstyle dependant.

paper lily
#

i'm a toughness enthusiast, but i also rarely get hit

#

my average game is under 150 dmg taken so hp wouldn't help me anyway

rigid sky
#

Tbh at that point you may as well go triple staminas

#

I think the ultra instinct gamers do that

#

If you go kinetic deflection you probably should take at least 1 stamina curio anyway

paper lily
#

i don't play kd either

#

stamina doesn't help on psyker cuz with movetech you just regen stamina anyway

#

if ur blocking on psyker ur probably also dying

#

and in the rare case i have to clutch by just holding e on some dude who died in a fire surrounded by shit fuck it i'll just move forward instead

marble crater
#

If you are blocking with KD and a stamina curio you won't be dying anytime soon

paper lily
#

say that when ur back against a wall and you have no where to dodge and random trapper /bomber appears

round gull
paper lily
#

if there was a movespeed curio i'd take that

round gull
#

I always get hit when there's a horde

#

:[

paper lily
#

u gotta practice the trashhorde dance then

marble crater
paper lily
#

toughness does, cuz without them your toughness breaks from 1 stalker volley

#

which is really fucking annoying

round gull
paper lily
#

zealot is quite a bit more forgiving in that department sure

#

psyker will make sure you never fuck it up though

#

that being said psyker has about a billion tools to deal with horde faster, and safer so

#

it might be ur awareness that needs more attention

round gull
#

maybe

#

It's mainly when I use swords

paper lily
#

which kind

round gull
#

And when I'm using smite there's always a fucking enemy scratching my back

paper lily
#

smite is like the ultimate awareness check cuz you really get punished for getting hit

#

you gotta train your ears to press dodge when u hear the woosh

#

it basically doesn't even matter which direction you dodge, you can even dodge into a wall (with reduced iframes) if you time it well

round gull
#

When I try to dogde is too late

paper lily
#

yeah just gotta practice

#

you don't hear woosh, press dodge a bit after, it's basically the second the audio cue starts

round gull
#

Yeah,I have to practice

paper lily
#

you can train it in the meatgrinder with teh creature spawner mod

#

disabling invis but leaving invuln on

round gull
#

How do I enable it?

paper lily
#

spawning a bunch of trash

#

im sure there's a guide around to enable mods

round gull
#

I only know the staying mode

round gull
rigid sky
#

Meat grinder has different timings due to being local based

paper lily
#

it's barely different ime

#

in fact i'd say with interp it's even more forgiving

upper sun
#

ive been cheesing blitz penances tbh

radiant frigate
#

๐Ÿง€

long wharf
radiant frigate
#

a discheesing advantage

upper sun
#

like for straight up every class

#

either grilling hoards or leaving when i run out of nades

steel flame
#

This worth a nab?

#

It looks decent but im kinda iffy on what it might upgrade into

upper sun
#

yer its already got nexus and maniacs cant be that bad

steel flame
#

ty

radiant frigate
#

should i make a new voidstrike or simply run blazing surge voidstrike..

upper sun
#

keep making voids until you get one with nexus/surge and a free perk

radiant frigate
#

blaze void it is then

#

let the galaxy burn

plucky flax
patent wing
#

agentchaos are u up for a game

plucky flax
#

I'm playing as 3 if you wanna join

patent wing
#

sure

#

sent invite

plucky flax
#

fs code?

patent wing
#

issa in my name

#

ive already requested

plucky flax
#

Accepted

potent echo
#

finally got my manstopper blessing after rolling a new char

#

its so sick it finally makes shotguns feel like a shotgun

upper sun
#

does rolling new chars really do anything

rigid sky
#

Can make getting tier 2 only blessings easier

#

But tbh I harvest those from brunt's main shop

upper sun
#

nah i mean aside from melkmaxxing

#

oh

rigid sky
#

His shit is all tier 1 and 2 blessings

upper sun
#

why would you need tier 2s?

rigid sky
#

Some blessings are not available on any other tier

upper sun
#

seriously?

rigid sky
#

And some of those are necessary for certain niches

upper sun
#

some stuff is only t2?

#

i know about blaze away/spirit

rigid sky
#

Flechette, man stopper, ceaseless barrage are all ones you would actually potentially want

#

But locked to tier 2

upper sun
#

lmao

rigid sky
#

Focused channelling is also locked to 2

#

But it is bad so lmao.

upper sun
#

but who would ever want that yeah

paper lily
#

just melk

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i got 8 chars but now 3 of them don't work with the new personality scourge thing lmao

little sapphire
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plucky flax
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@patent wing can do duo 1 other guy wanted to play with that group.

patent wing
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u can stick with em i have to learn anyway

plucky flax
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It's fine I'll take a break. Been playing for like 2 hours.

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4 psykers op whatthefuck_heresy

patent wing
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its insane yes almost boring xd

plucky flax
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No one need to melee. Xd

patent wing
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based psyker has 0 melee dmg

rigid sky
fathom totem
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That's arguable. For some flame stick is best staff.

plucky flax
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Purga vs blaze trauma is sad. whatthefuck_heresy

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Even though blaze trauma bad. whatthefuck_heresy

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But purga is probably easiest staff to play so.

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fathom totem
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Purg only horrible if you don't have the right skill tree and staff stats.

patent wing
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it has no cc against the scariest enemies in the game

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all other staffs offer that

plucky flax
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Hide behind teammates. ComfyDame

marble crater
potent echo
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it cant stagger heresy pubs

rigid sky
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LMB staggers ragers pretty good

round gull
rigid sky
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I don't think it's bad btw

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I just think it's probably the bottom of the pile

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Something has to be

round gull
rigid sky
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Mod

round gull
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oh

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How do I get mods?

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Any recommended page?

patent wing
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nexusmods

fathom totem
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You can stagger most things with left click..

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Unless you are just right charge bursting all the time. You playing wrong.

round gull
patent wing
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but be aware that its not accurate esp with soul blaze/bleed/burn -> first tick gets all dmg

patent wing
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and ragers are not scary anymore

fathom totem
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I don't have problems with mauler squads though. Can like burn them down alone.