psyker-class

[paper lily]

nope

the code is posted explains it pretty well, it's definitely a projectile

[lethal lagoon]

Yes, that's what I'm saying

❓

I definitely need a longer distance test though

Of course the sound bugged in my test, fucking trappers

I think you got confused by my own test proving me wrong(for now)
I should do it in third person and some telemod.

[weary crane]

Love it when you run out of ammo and none of your team takes out the specialists even though they are right fucking there

[rigid sky]

Too busy magdumping their mark II recons with no rending at the crushers

Damnation Gaming

[lethal lagoon]

[paper lily]

they still waste an insane amt of ammo to kill crushers even with huge rending values

[ruby shadow]

Or magdumping trash mob hordes instead of shooting the sniper and reapers that are just taking pot shots at the group

oh veterans 🥹

[potent echo]

They need the 2500 kills

[rigid sky]

Ah, penances

Why play normally and get it over a week

[potent echo]

I need it

[rigid sky]

When you can play like a prick, get it in 6 days, and burn yourself and everybody else out

[ruby shadow]

Min max equipment so you can min max penance progression

[rigid sky]

Mfs be like "fatshark is ABUSIVELY FORCING ME to use disrupt destiny, so oppressive, here's my gofundme"

[upper sun]

me im mfers

[rigid sky]

Meanwhile the enlightened are like "sweet, DD is already fun as fuck and now I get rewarded for it too"

[upper sun]

DD is so CHEAP

[rigid sky]

Lingering Influence basically makes it "give me a shitton of damage forever without having to work to maintain it"

[radiant frigate]

:)

[thorn cedar]

DD is dummy strong. Now and always.

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1235349570054258749/future.jpg

[radiant frigate]

i like the idea of doing a shitton of damage forever

[upper sun]

look at how cheap this shit is

[thorn cedar]

Tbf Psyker is the odd one out for having Warp Charges be so damn deep

[potent echo]

One can say it's the best keystone in the entire game

[rigid sky]

Warp charges are only good because Shriek is so strong

[ruby shadow]

I need to get better at maintaining my charges, that’s the only reason I didn’t care for them (yes skill issue)

[rigid sky]

Which charges?

DD or siphon?

[ruby shadow]

Honestly i don’t remember, it was using a BB build

I think it was DD

[upper sun]

they're a lot easier to maintain after the patch

[ruby shadow]

Oh, ok. I didn’t know that, last time I tried running them it was like 3 or so weeks ago

[upper sun]

you never tried DD after the path of redemption patch?

[ruby shadow]

I don’t believe so, no

[upper sun]

yeah its a lot better now i never really ran it until after the change

[marble crater]

I wouldn't know, there is a visual bug

[rigid sky]

I would recommend running it with Assail too

Since Assail benefits from the crit/weakspot boost

[upper sun]

u just gotta believe in urself

[rigid sky]

And generally pairs well with guns or Voidstrike, which are the DD weapons

[untold niche]

how do you do the new hab dreyko tree mini game?

[upper sun]

i have no idea

[marble crater]

Click the one that turns white instead of red

[upper sun]

wont catch me dead in the hab' no way no how no sir

[thorn cedar]

how is it so complicated for yall >.>

[rigid sky]

Remember, with lingerie influence, you lose 3 stacks in 30 seconds which is 1 weakspot kill

[untold niche]

I HAD one area all red

[rigid sky]

...lingering

[marble crater]

Lies

[rigid sky]

With perfectionism, in 30s you lose 7.5 stacks

[thorn cedar]

lingerie influence usually causes me to blow all my stacks prematurely

[ruby shadow]

I was wrong, sorry. I was running BB and Siphon

I run Assail now with Emp Psionics, but I’ll give the DD build a try!

[ruby shadow]

Perfect, I love my voidstrike 😎

[fading patrol]

Check for each dot, white dot > left click > next check
The white dot location is static per scan so remember the first two locstion

[rigid sky]

Well, enjoy oneshotting some Crushers:)

[untold niche]

i clicked all the dots :v

[wind spruce]

You're just missing out now

No reason to avoid it

I got my auric storm survivor penance on three consecutive habs

[marble crater]

New Hab looks very nice

I don't think the tree falling apart was a thing before, right?

[rigid sky]

Hab dreyko is the exact kind of hell that keeps me playing this

[wind spruce]

Correct

[paper lily]

needs more silo cluster starter section

[marble crater]

Good, I'm not blind then

Silo cluster was the staircase nightmare?

[paper lily]

yep

the entire part up till you get into the buildings is pretty rough

ledges pretty tight sandwich areas

[marble crater]

I don't mind it too much after you made it down and through the first part, still not great, but a lot better than the start where you get lit up if you don't get down and forward quickly

[paper lily]

i just like how hectic it can get, so many areas are too comfy with ranged distances

or they're not ranged enough to make enemy shooters problematic

2nd carnival map just past the underground section at the start is a good example of high range that can actually get overwhelming for people

[marble crater]

2nd carnival map I usually respect the two closed rooms more than anything else

[radiant frigate]

something like, find the circle that is lit up and click it twice, repeat

i have only done it by pressing random buttons

it is not particularly intuitive

you would think they would give you a briefing on how to use the tech given to you but no

[rigid sky]

Hadron doesn't get the difficulty

[marble crater]

Hadron thinks we are idiots anyway

[upper sun]

no ive lost too many (3 missions) in the hab

third deimos with slaughter

for the love of the emperor give that shit on illisi

[stuck sinew]

Deimos with slaughter is a real jack of all trades

[rigid sky]

Same could be said about any of the Holy trinity under DD :)

[marble crater]

Who are the holy trinity?

Illisi, Deimos, DS4?

[rigid sky]

DS4, Deimos, Illisi

[marble crater]

[stuck sinew]

Eh, DS4 isn't great at horde clear so it's not a jack of all trades, mostly an elite destroyer

[marble crater]

Maybe I will give my weird surge, assail, DS2 build with shriek and DD another try

[slate oasis]

what are the best blessings for illisi?

[upper sun]

NEVER

[marble crater]

Slaughterer with either deflector or uncanny, depending on your preference

[plucky flax]

What about shred or unstable?

[rigid sky]

Again, slap DD and optionally SG on it and it's a horde clearer.

[stuck sinew]

The main thing stopping it isn't damage, it just doesn't have the cleave or attack pattern to hit that many enemies at once

[upper sun]

By the time you use special 5 times to get up to peril you could have taken 7 swings

[plucky flax]

Just spam light with shred.

[stuck sinew]

It's fine, but it's not amazing

[plucky flax]

Shred and slaughter light spam is guuuuud

[upper sun]

i have one with shred/blazing i feel like the crit rate on that weapon is zero

[hexed geyser]

You could kill hordes with a butter knife in this game. Elites and specials are the only thing that matter

[stuck sinew]

What weapon are you talking about?

[plucky flax]

Illisi.

[stuck sinew]

They have shred?

[upper sun]

they have everything

[stuck sinew]

I have had such bad luck with force sword blessings tbf

[plucky flax]

Yeah.

Or riposte slaughterer.

[upper sun]

this is us rn

[stuck sinew]

It's always superiority or the quell one I swear

[marble crater]

I forgot about shred, yeah

[upper sun]

to be fair tho most blaze sword blessings are not awful

its not opening salvo/sustained assault/SURGE ON TRAUMA

[ornate hamlet]

riposte > shred, i like missing one auto and not losing every stack of crit

[plucky flax]

Yeah both good. You will be dodging a lot when melee anyway so it's super easy to get riposte stack.

[ornate hamlet]

dumb easy, its like reciprocity on vet its just free crit 95% of the time

[upper sun]

this is like the first weapon i ever rolled for zealot

it kinda doesnt feel all that good

[plucky flax]

10 of each chaff units with shred slaughterer. Obviously much faster with high peril and special light/heavy weave in or using creeping flames. But slaughterer + shred/riposte is gud and comfy for light spam.

No buff no peril no warp charges

When it crit the cleave is big.

[ornate hamlet]

and you only lost your crit once

[plucky flax]

When it crit when you special light/heavy it's big damage.

[upper sun]

wait so the crit chain isnt just on single target?

[plucky flax]

No it's self buff.

So + 20% crit chance.

[upper sun]

huh not bad

[plucky flax]

Shred got nerfed it used to be 25%.

[upper sun]

i'll just keep using my executor/slaught illisi for the next 7 months 😭

[plucky flax]

Executor is sus you lose stacks on body shot.

[frail pasture]

ur sus

[plucky flax]

[ornate hamlet]

[frail pasture]

[plucky flax]

Riposte slaughterer

Shred slaughterer

I have too many illisis.

[upper sun]

I have 9 3 are good

the rest idk what to do with

[marble crater]

Give me some of the illisisisisis

[upper sun]

i would if i could 😭

weapon trading when????

[marble crater]

If they fix the crafting system we won't need that

[upper sun]

i have zero expectations

[radiant frigate]

force greatsword when?

[upper sun]

force daggers when?

[rigid sky]

Force Shovel when?

[upper sun]

force-chain chovel when?

[untold niche]

i want tonfas for zealot

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-oleg-funny-meme-gif-26284328

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[untold niche]

cannot stagger, but once you hit peepo enough time they get stunned for X duration

[potent echo]

heresy is the hardest difficulty confirmed

[plucky flax]

Is chain shovel a thing?

[zinc phoenix]

Where is stam boosted block eff deflector deimos 🤔

[zinc phoenix]

Rule of cool says yes

And honestly it’d be handy for heavily forested locales, digging a latrine through tree roots is fucking miserable when you’re out on a long hike with a troop

Like yeah you should just move where you’re digging but if you’re fucking three feet down and only need a bit further reeee

[upper sun]

bruh

holy shit gunners are insane now

are we sure they didnt stealth buff them

[plucky flax]

I think shotgunners more insane.

[upper sun]

both

its kinda crazy

i am actually dying as zealot

[hexed geyser]

When i play knife i fear the gunners more than anything, because i cant stun them fast enough to not lose all my health

[upper sun]

ive been playing marty zealot with crusher

i took off the point from duellist and put it in marty's purpose so i can have a get out of jail free card

[hexed geyser]

That's fun too, i like that its the weapon with the most impact, but it feels lighter than a chainsword lol

[hexed geyser]

#psyker-class message

[potent echo]

i feel like they stagger better if you have no toughness

[plucky flax]

Exploded.

[potent echo]

guess you gotta still take twbs

[rigid sky]

twbs is more optional than it used to be

but it's still decent I guess?

[upper sun]

what is twbs?

[paper lily]

all projectile enemies got buffed

even shitty stalkers

thy wrath be swift

which is an insane node

[paper lily]

it lies, ranged attacks too

[upper sun]

ye

i used to have it but i took it down for swift certainty

[plucky flax]

Still decent. I take it on combat axe to path it to the impact on weakspot talent below. When I play knife I don't use it.

[paper lily]

is swift certainty the slightly worse one

oh it's completely different

idk i take em both

[rigid sky]

Some of what it used to give you is now baseline

[paper lily]

don't reckon ppl would like my zealot build tho

[rigid sky]

So you can now fury of the Faithful at gunners without needing it

[paper lily]

ngl it was fucking stupid it cancelled chastise half the time

[upper sun]

thats what i use for crusher marty

[upper sun]

i keep double casting it by accident

[rigid sky]

Oh cool

You took only the bad CDR talent lmao

[paper lily]

https://i.imgur.com/1BM7Nb4.png

this is my go to zealot build

[rigid sky]

World's most honest zealot

[upper sun]

i used to have duellist instead of it but i kept eating shit from gunners so much i switched out

its surprisingly helpful

[paper lily]

i also play with evis not knife

cuz evis does everything knife does but better, except move fast

since you're gated by team anyway who cares about going gigafast

[plucky flax]

Double cdr.

[paper lily]

ngl that point is a free floating one

i change it up every now and then

[upper sun]

hell yeah take all the cdr nodes

[paper lily]

masters retribution insanely underrated imo

[upper sun]

nuh uhh

just dont let the bucket heads hit u

[paper lily]

it's mostly for dogs tbh

[upper sun]

🤔

[paper lily]

ppl would ask me why i don't put 3 in piety

[upper sun]

ok fair

[paper lily]

1pt for 15 crit is insane, 2 pts for 10 is ass

u get crazy value with zealot talents too

[upper sun]

are people not playing today or what its friday

i just got the same 3 people 3 times in a row

[dense valley]

Main Zealot here this class would be fuccing immortal of they have Psyker Maccabian lol

[plucky flax]

Zealot can play knife it's the same thing.

[untold niche]

now mainly against reapers

[upper sun]

😨 deimos zealot

[paper lily]

rather see zealot with illisi

[untold niche]

why, already have dclaw

also im still angry at the mommentum nerf

nobody was calling it OP or whatever

[paper lily]

i think it mostly benefitted knife dudes anyway since u have so many dodges

[plucky flax]

[paper lily]

it just ramped it up even more

i don't even think it's the best keystone

[plucky flax]

Momentum knife abusers made them nerf it.

[untold niche]

the duration nerf hurt me alot
and i use on my caxe build that i path straight down from right tree

now it feels so bad to play

[untold niche]

nerf knife then wtf >.>

[paper lily]

it also increased stuff like dodge speed/distance too

which was just exponentially more bullshit with knife

[untold niche]

ye nerf knife

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

yeah ive heard some people who only play knives complain that mobility is too strong in the game and needs to be nerfed

[paper lily]

i think knife is kinda ass outside of ppl thinking they're hardcore for skipping 99% of a map and finishing a finale event

[upper sun]

my brother in the emperor you only play knives

[untold niche]

play the most OP mobility weapon and complain about mobility

very smort

[thorn cedar]

momentum was deffo too strong

it's not really in question

[upper sun]

dont nerf my movespeed on psyker while im trying to follow the zealot while carrying a deimos

[untold niche]

Isn't martyr always been "better"?
I personally like mommentum more but prenerf everyone seemed to prefer martyr

[paper lily]

attack speed always been op in these kinda games

martyr is safer probably not better

[thorn cedar]

and as far as nerfs go this was pretty tame, they could've kept the stacks at 20 but reduced the amount you gain per stack instead, so it would've been much harder to maintain

[paper lily]

more attacks = more invocation = more ults

[rigid sky]

Momentum was actually really good

[thorn cedar]

isntead they just cut stacks off the top so it's almost a linear change

[rigid sky]

Probably still is

[paper lily]

all 3 keystones good

[thorn cedar]

and no martyr isnt always better, it's actually rarely better

[upper sun]

marty is just easier to build for

[untold niche]

every play at like 4-5 wound stack anyway :v

everyone

[upper sun]

my wound curios so good

[thorn cedar]

yeah, like if you deliberately play to activate it, you can pull more from it

[paper lily]

martyr is just safer cuz of tdr at high wounds

ur so tanky

basically like how ogryn fnp worked

[untold niche]

i found (at least pre nerf) mommentum to be safer

maybe because im trash

[thorn cedar]

but momentum was 20% global damage, attack speed, and firerate, on top of dodge bonuses, at essentially 100% uptime

[paper lily]

idk, i do a lot of weapon swap stuff in all my builds so the attack speed doesn't benefit me as much

[thorn cedar]

and you didnt have to completely swap out your curios to make it work

[upper sun]

its ok we're all trash thats why i only play marty

[untold niche]

Nooooo.
As a noob sometime i only get 10 stacks >:v

[thorn cedar]

well, thats the issue then lul

cause ya strictly on paper

martyr only starts to compete at 3 stacks

[paper lily]

idk why anyone would go martyr and not immediately red barrel to1 wound tho

[untold niche]

you know how people complain devs shouldn't balance around pro peepo

[thorn cedar]

and something that's also in momentum's favour are the nodes above it

[untold niche]

time for me to make that complain

[thorn cedar]

not that you can't take sustained assault with martyrdom, ofc

[paper lily]

yeah but u just said u regularly only got 10 stacks

[thorn cedar]

but you will take sustained assault if you go momentum

[paper lily]

i don't think 2 sec momentum really killed it for u

[untold niche]

but with duration nerf, its even worse

SEE

HA

SEE

SEE

[paper lily]

no?

[untold niche]

also i say sometime, not every time

duration go down, less time build stack. mean less stack

[thorn cedar]

nah

[untold niche]

mean sad, because mean breakpoint not reached

[thorn cedar]

they cut off 25% of the stacks, and also 25% of the duration

its 1:1 exactly as easy as it was before

[paper lily]

there's no way u care about breakpoints if ur build can't maintain max stacks like

[untold niche]

NOOOO

if i take 7 seconds to reach 10 stack

now only 6 second

mean i never reaching 10 stack

SEEE

[upper sun]

yall need to take ur OCD meds

[paper lily]

why are u typing see lmao

[thorn cedar]

yeah but you were already never reaching it cause ur bad

[paper lily]

think u need to relax

[untold niche]

NOU I COULD DO 10 CONSISTENT

[paper lily]

u would be better served goin martyr for sure

[thorn cedar]

they didnt nerf it cause people were hitting 10 whopping stacks, thats for sure

i will say though that i wonder if martyrdom needs a buff

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/macaco-golpe-hit-leona-lion-gif-19312898

[paper lily]

nah there's no way

[thorn cedar]

and blazing peity just needs a soft rework

[paper lily]

what would u buff

[untold niche]

why nerf the duration too >:v

[thorn cedar]

well thats really the question

[paper lily]

they're already insanely tanky

[upper sun]

Hell yeah nerf everything i dont play

[thorn cedar]

momentum is just too good

[untold niche]

me the monkey u the dog

[paper lily]

i don't rate momentum personally, i also don't play knife

[untold niche]

mommentum very fun

was very fun :v

[paper lily]

if it gave movespeed i'd use it

[true lake]

babe the zealots are in psyker chat again

[paper lily]

happens

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkey-hitting-someone-sword-13world-reaction-gif-23469319

[urban sandal]

shame momentum copped a nerf but its baffling that crit cdr didn't

[paper lily]

i think the crit cdr only feels so strong cuz the 2 main abilities zealots use just stuns teh entire ass room when they use it

[thorn cedar]

i have built up a bunch of zealot builds, and match over match, as i fine tune them, 90% of them become this

[paper lily]

zealots can trivialize melee combat cuz everything is fucking afk staring at them

[thorn cedar]

it's like some sort of carcinization for zealot

[plucky flax]

I think safer over all too. Bigger dodge and nearly as good damage as 5 wounds. Just worse attack speed really.

But now it's rip.

[paper lily]

2 pts in chastise

[thorn cedar]

opposite, better attack speed but worse damage

at least until that third martyr stack

keep in mind martyr is melee only for damage

momentum is all damage

[plucky flax]

I only play martyrdom at 5 or 6 stacks.

[paper lily]

it's the only way to play it

u are actively griefing urself

[untold niche]

yeha, and less point cost for my builds.

[paper lily]

if u don't

u take a big hit at 4 wounds ur feeling that

[plucky flax]

I will write negative review.

Momentum nerf.

[untold niche]

i have that on zealot i need second wind
I want stealth.
And i don't like to take 2nd life unless martyr ( such a huge point cost)

[paper lily]

u mean scourge top right right

2nd life is just noob insurance for zealot

not like he took it anyway he went weakspot dmg

[thorn cedar]

there's points left over but that's build dependent as you can imagine

[paper lily]

yea but like blood redemption is so...

[thorn cedar]

yeah but if im killing everything i hit then who cares about bleed crit

[paper lily]

it's for cdr for me at least

[thorn cedar]

outside of weps with ridiculous cleave there's little point

or knife

cause knife

[paper lily]

so weird to not try n get invocation

esp if u rocking a knife

[thorn cedar]

you just dont need it

crit cdr is a dumb meme and i refuse to abide by it

[paper lily]

it's not a dumb meme it'

it's just really fucking good

[thorn cedar]

it's fun

certainly fun

[radiant frigate]

how is that at all the same as illisi

[proud mantle]

What's a good build for the maelstrom modifiers I can do well if the Randoms stick together but I can't clutch against the 40 crushers every time

[patent steeple]

btw, I have finally bought some red cosmetics from Aquila Store for my psyker.

for context, I like to theme my classes around a specific cosmetic colour, so ogryn is red, psyker is blue, vet is green and zealot is black/grey.

the problem was that ogryn does not have red/blue weapon skins for all his stuff, so I had to swap around the colours so that ogryn is green (I bought a green weapon skin set with Aquilas a long time ago), psyker is red, vet is blue, and zealot is the same black/grey.

[paper lily]

need pics

[paper lily]

if crushers are ur problem probably grab some void build

[patent steeple]

I will, once I just load up my psyker real quick

[paper lily]

i don't play void but i'm sure there's countless default void builds around here somewhere

[urban sandal]

trauma/void staff, deimos/ds4 and brain burst or assail

[paper lily]

trauma can get ur team into trouble if ur bad at aiming it

[plucky flax]

That's me.

[paper lily]

animation cancel trauma is too fun

[radiant frigate]

someone once trauma'd a poxburster into the team

instantly killed me and slowly killed the rest of the team

[paper lily]

that'd probably happen regardless of staff, i was more thinking of bad crusher spreading

[patent steeple]

ok, so here are my current characters with their updated colours (I haven't updated my ogryn to be green yet)

[paper lily]

like ur zealot or ogryn is frontlining, now suddenly he's just in the shit

[radiant frigate]

i fail to see how another staff can knock a burster towards you

[paper lily]

appreciate some nice colour coordination

tbh it's kinda impressive they even managed it, trauma instabursts a poxburster

[radiant frigate]

i know right?

must have been like some wimpy quarter-charge or something

[urban sandal]

hitting it just outside the epicenter even when fully charged will just knock it over

at least it does with mine

I don't have 80 dmg

[paper lily]

yeah, i mean it does work that way but you'd think they were trying to actually hit it

moral of the story is, void shoots giant ball forward, kill armor man

trauma knocks armor man on the floor, can grief team

[untold niche]

u can change color? o.o

[untold niche]

serve similar purpose me thinks

[radiant frigate]

i don't really see it, illisi is main weapon material, dclaw is not with its godawful anti-armor performance

[paper lily]

i hate the backswing on dclaw heavies too

like they don't release the heavy when u let go of lmb

takes like .2s longer

[untold niche]

right i forgot that uh, zealot melee needs to hit armour xd

[radiant frigate]

psykerpilled

[upper sun]

this is a build right?

its asking to be made

[spice veldt]

at least people harping about knife are actually justified now

compared to pre patch 13 mfs singing praises about it

and even then a lot of people don't build it well and/or don't use it well

and constantly mistake it as a high skill weapon even if it's just heavy spam or light spam

and I bet a lot of people don't know about stagger BPs with knife to even bother doing punch combos with it

they should nerf knife just so I can see people complain

[plucky flax]

Just played a round as vet with a team of 2 zealots and 1 ogryn. It was an awful experience.

[paper lily]

what would u prefer

i just don't see what knife does better than a myriad of other zealot weapons besides move faster

[plucky flax]

Knife on zealot? Super safe and high monster and elites damage.

[paper lily]

it is super safe but it just takes longer to do all the same shit, beyond fragging emplaced ranged units

can't kill horde for shit

[spice veldt]

its not a generalist weapon but on zealot, having duellist and being able to stack crit elevated it to the same level as the mk4 duelling sword, at least from my perspective

[paper lily]

could kinda see that comparison, ds4 special probably still lightyears better

[spice veldt]

and on zealot, the fact that you can stack a shit ton of crit means that you can abandon uncanny strike for other blessing combos

ds4 has the stagger yeah but it's zealot and he has actual melee buffs compared to psyker

I would never use knife on the other classes

but at least on zealot, I consider it the weapon that people are justified in praising

[paper lily]

yeah it's def a viable weapon

people practically deify the weapon though, when it's kinda just like an upper tier weapon

[spice veldt]

e.g., crit build allows you to take riposte + flesh tearer, which makes it more of a generalist weapon

yeah knife has always gotten praise about areas that it's never been good at

e.g., people praising its hordeclear

[paper lily]

ngl i can't really imagine an effective build on zealot that doesn't have shittons of crit

[weary crane]

Thunderhammer🤨

[plucky flax]

It's just so safe to play.

[paper lily]

i did say effective build...

[plucky flax]

If I am on a knife I feel like I'd never fail a clutch.

[spice veldt]

there's always inexorable and martyr but I do gravitate to crit cuz the top right branch is so good

[paper lily]

yeah i mean you can ignore 99.9% of the mechanics

[weary crane]

Being able to 1 shot weakened monstrosities is pretty effective yeah

[plucky flax]

(Unless surprise silent dog/trapper)

I take knife and flamer anyway for big horde clear.

[paper lily]

some ppl argue that knife zealots are the cause and solution to the whole clutching thing anyway

like they create the situation they themselves have to solve

[spice veldt]

yeah there is a part of that as well

[paper lily]

idk, i think evis 15 is just way too overtuned rn

[spice veldt]

you can make knife a frontline-able weapon on zealot but people don't build it that way

I hate it

[upper sun]

evi is fine

[spice veldt]

becoming a knife main has only made me hate other knife players

[paper lily]

they gotta nerf the l1

[upper sun]

it has awful cleave

[plucky flax]

Idk sometimes people just die.

[paper lily]

sure it can only damage x targets but it doesn't matter when it chainstuns 20+

and yeah sometimes people do just die

[plucky flax]

Whether I'm on knife or not is not part of the equation.

[upper sun]

heavy 2 has slower charge time than heavy 2 for some reason

[paper lily]

block cancel to h1

[upper sun]

ye

[near wyvern]

Embrace the knife 6 supremacy

[paper lily]

if i were to use a knife, it'd be the 6

[upper sun]

its just good against armor and bosses and its easy to use

[paper lily]

if you qq cancel l1 on evis nothing can move

[near wyvern]

Knife 6 is one of the only weapons in the game where you can say "ey trash, hold on, lemme kill this elite right in the middle of you"

[paper lily]

perfect strike and ur also cleaving past bulwarks crushers etc and applying that same stun to them too

[upper sun]

yeah i havent been able to craft one with a free blessing yet 😭

[hexed geyser]

Ironhelm

[upper sun]

only change elite to boss

[paper lily]

nah it cleaves into packs and will murder 1 elite too

actually kinda nice

[upper sun]

to quote my zealot "one does not need a thunderhammer to drive in a nail"

[paper lily]

i can't remember if crit has the keyword uses reduced hitmass

need to find it

[near wyvern]

Yuh but you can just drill through as a Psyker with knife 6

Ironhelm is like Sauron mode, Knife 6 is like literally benching the trash in front of you to enjoy the spectacle of you poking someone to death with a needle

[plucky flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyc7EsuXRBI

[paper lily]

can't watch the embed umg

that crusher overhead looked painful

bro how do u play with debuff indicator on

healthbars drives me nuts

[plucky flax]

I am noob enough to always take HR no matter the build.

[paper lily]

fair

[plucky flax]

Not always trigger but when it does it could potentially save a run.

[paper lily]

i just set my gear to where i don't have to give a shit beyond major threats

and by major threats i just mean chaos spawn solo

[plucky flax]

Knife is the best weapon to solo chaos spawn though. Big dodge and just bleed it to death.

[paper lily]

not wrong

[upper sun]

i tried to solo a pogryn with a crusher

it was taking forever

[paper lily]

u gotta push attack

[upper sun]

i think i was doing h1L2

or rather sph1

[hexed geyser]

I'm suprised you're here to talk about it. I tried once and my teamate ended up leaving because it took too long

[paper lily]

actually maybe push attack has better modifiers vs carapace

been ages since i played it

[upper sun]

lmao

yeah i got bored half way then mag dumped it with my caig

[paper lily]

even tho i greatly dislike knife i'm gonna have to become one of those guys soon

[near wyvern]

CAIG, the true beloved

[rich jolt]

Tried out overpowering souls brain blast for the first time

Not sure how i didnt think of this combination sooner. Was using bio-loadstone

Ability to insta kill gunners and two shot reapers at any range for free only having to commit to a short charge time is insanely strong

[cloud prawn]

Good evening! Could you recommend a build for this character? I've just started playing and I don't understand everything x)

[upper sun]

dont worry too much about builds until you get to 30

[hardy delta]

hard to recommend an ultimate build for a non 30lvl char

plus all builds are just preferences

99% of them work

[upper sun]

you can pretty much use assail and try out the emperor gifts you get to see what weapons you like

[hardy delta]

just try things yourself so you wont be bored so quickly

[cloud prawn]

I like the skill where you use lightning to hold back enemies, but it doesn't do too much damage x)

[alpine flax]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959 has some templates an good explanation as far as synergies go.

[rich jolt]

Smite is a support tool

[upper sun]

it becomes more useful as you level up but still melee and ranged do more damage

paired with EP and creeping flames its nice but still

[paper lily]

recommend gun to like mid 20's personally

u could allocate 0 points honestly, just use gun

[flat nexus]

i would go something like this on knife zealot but i dont use thy wraft be swift so i have the atk speed and cut throat ||you can also just take away the extra node from left tree and put it on melee atk speed||

[ocean sonnet]

any psykers wanna help each other with the boss penance?

[plucky flax]

MK5 ripper

[upper sun]

I kneel

[upper sun]

for me maybe in a couple of hours

[plucky flax]

You don't have to these penances are pain.

6 left

[upper sun]

ogryn is hell

[plucky flax]

I think the frag bomb and the heavy hitter will take forever.

[upper sun]

kill 25 enemies with 25 frags 25 times 🙂

[dense valley]

Just me or Psyker tree kinda ass like u literally locked in of some combination

[paper lily]

enhanced blitz maelstrom

[dense valley]

Like the nodes are good but

[upper sun]

(do this 25^25 times)

[plucky flax]

Yeah I need to find those.

And just spam it.

[ocean sonnet]

yea the disrupt destiny is ass

[upper sun]

pop into sedation and start gooning with the twin gun 24/7 like everyone does

[spice veldt]

psyker's tree is lacking in that regard yeah

the # of permutations is lacking

it's a neat gimmick but I don't think it's worth it

[plucky flax]

Oh is that the strat to farm?

Just go twins.

[dense valley]

ye like zealot u can take tf ever u want

[plucky flax]

Smart actually.

[ornate hamlet]

your forced to take disrupt destiny if you want decent melee

[spice veldt]

or at least have a lot more nodes for psyker

[dense valley]

but like zealot tree has some filler nodes

[upper sun]

for the bullet one yes BUT you can also do twins

[spice veldt]

yeah psyker has the tradeoff for having zero-cost sideways traversal in exchange for being locked out

[plucky flax]

I cba to play ogryn properly for these penances cos my normal build is bull rush tanky key stone.

So I'm forced to play something I have no interest in at all.

[ornate hamlet]

put anticipation in the middle rather than the far right

all i want

[upper sun]

yer sucks when its a grindy penance for abilities/keystones you dont play

[ornate hamlet]

rest smarter peaple can figure out

[zinc phoenix]

I hope they add dual wield revolver someday

[spice veldt]

and i don't know of any playtesters i can trust for psyker compared to vet/zealot

make psyker hit the gym

[dense valley]

like if I wanna build crit Im locked with DD right ? Anyone got a crit tree that use siphon ?

[ornate hamlet]

yep

dd

[dense valley]

DD it is then

[ocean sonnet]

will private game penances complete if I use the true solo mod?

[ornate hamlet]

is the best unless your ability spamming

and if your having fun go empower psionics

[plucky flax]

Not tru solo but do many more try.

[mental rock]

No. True solo is offline play only and will not progress achievements or penances afaik

[ornate hamlet]

unprivate malleus fatshart

[mental rock]

No that deserves to be private

[ocean sonnet]

do many more try?

[dense valley]

But like people go DD just for the Precsion buff r9 ? I dont think the marked enemy thing is that useful

[ornate hamlet]

at full stacks (15) its 15% dmg 50% crit dmg 60% weakspot

[dense valley]

Ye, thats the secondary buff

[ornate hamlet]

on top of the on kill toughness and ms

amazing package

[dense valley]

Most of the time it marked trash mob ithey die before i touch em lol so I think that buff is rather rng

[ornate hamlet]

a new mark pops up almost instantly

[mental rock]

Especially good on weapons with high Crit and weak spot mods like revolver or Columnus

[ornate hamlet]

its rng in the sence of a coin flip rather than the lotto

[mental rock]

If a teammate hits a DD target it will refresh your buff

[spice veldt]

rng but it's trivial to chase after stacks and now that they don't drop all at once

take 10 seconds and call it a day

[dense valley]

Wow I didnt know that

[ornate hamlet]

150 seconds is the full duration to go from 15 to 0

its crazy

[marble crater]

Gunlugger penances are fun as hell though, just daka daka

[mental rock]

Wait I could be mistaken. I think you just need to hit the DD target and it will refresh, not teammates. Need to confirm

Still nice that you don't have to be the one to kill it though

Just get a hit in to refresh

[ornate hamlet]

still doesnt matter considering you have 150 seconds to refresh your stacks

ah what a change

[spice veldt]

should just be yourself hitting it yeah

any interaction (damage or stagger) will refresh it

so you don't even haveto kill the enemy if it happens to be tanky

just tag it a bit and call it a day

[dense valley]

lol

[ornate hamlet]

i mean i love melee psyker and dd unironically is the only thing that makes that do dmg but its op right now

needs adjustment

[dense valley]

can my team see the marked one ?

[spice veldt]

the bonus is quite massive for the # of points you need to invest

[mental rock]

No

[dense valley]

i dont think I see any as my zealot

ye lol shame

[spice veldt]

certainly on the list of keystones that need to be shot in the kneecaps

[ornate hamlet]

not the kneecaps

the timer

[spice veldt]

kneecaps

[ornate hamlet]

45 seconds

all stacks

[spice veldt]

there's perfectionism for that anyways

just lower the bonus and if you want to ge t ahigher bonus in exchange for shorter stacks

just run perfectionism

[ornate hamlet]

no im saying make it so that one path makes it so it no longer drops stack by stack, its old dd but 45 instead of 30

seconds

not stacks

[thorn cedar]

it's just hyper generous now

[ornate hamlet]

stupid generous you never lose it

[spice veldt]

ah

yeah it should decay by half imo

if you're at 15 stacks, you get dropped to 7 or 8 stacks once the timer is down

[ornate hamlet]

so decay 5 stacks every 15 seconds ?

[rich jolt]

So for the brain blast warp charge penance does max mean 4 or 6? Or does it change wether you have warp battery or not?

[spice veldt]

e.g., let's say that the timer is 20
If you're at 15 stacks and the timer counts down to 0, you'd be set back to 8 stacks
Or, if you were at 8 stacks, you get cut down to 4 stacks

something like that

well, whatever promotes in-the-moment resource management

anything that'll make using DD more of an active playstyle

keystone are too boring for what they are

if i want passive damage boosts just move them into talents

instead of pretending to have some economy that just has 100% uptime in actuality

the only reason i don't want the stacks to drop all at once with a 45s timer

is for looters

though that can be remedied with a better map design

annihilate all sidepaths that don't continue onto the main path

and make enemies spawn in side paths

[ornate hamlet]

or just regaining your stacks with head shots since 3 stacks per headshot

cool you lost them

kill 5 marks

[spice veldt]

true

similar to vet's marksman anyways

[ornate hamlet]

and with how they pop up instantly after one mark dies

its way to easy

[spice veldt]

i'll feel it less once we get a proper precision warp weapon

[ornate hamlet]

ive been playing it with the warp flame thrower

perma 15 stacks

im not even headshotting

[spice veldt]

refreshing on any interaction certainly helps

[ornate hamlet]

its a fun dmg boost, broken keystone

[spice veldt]

though if we're going by vet's marksman, they might keep the higher timer

cuz players whine too much

[dense valley]

lol just lost a game cuz my whole team ran into the fan in that mission

[ornate hamlet]

what?

that can happen?

[dense valley]

yep thats new

[ornate hamlet]

oh no

[rich jolt]

LMAO

[ornate hamlet]

lmao

[dense valley]

u just die instantly not going down

[ornate hamlet]

good

minced rejects

[rich jolt]

Was it at least at the end of that section?

[dense valley]

ye we press all button

[rich jolt]

Then they shouldve spawned near by to rescue

[dense valley]

ye if my whole team didnt ran into the fan lol

[rich jolt]

If you die by the fan your rescue spawn point changes?

[spice veldt]

yum

no the entire team wiped

[rich jolt]

Oh

[spice veldt]

can't rescue if there's no one to be the rescuer

[rich jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[ornate hamlet]

this is what happens when you send lobotimized rejects, they all ran into a fan

[dense valley]

thanks fatshark lol

[rich jolt]

Quad ogryn team

[ornate hamlet]

all bullrush the fan

[rich jolt]

Could someone please answer this?

[ornate hamlet]

no

answer

[ornate hamlet]

also i actually dont know

i just ran the keystone and passivly did it by just not using my abilities

[rich jolt]

I "think" its 4 but im not too sure

[marble crater]

It should be whichever your max is

[ornate hamlet]

oh then i managed it with 6 stacks

[marble crater]

If it's 4 you need to be at 4, if you take 6 then you need to be at 6

[rich jolt]

Well yeah thats what the text says but knowing fatshark that could be bullshit

They write false descriptions all the time

[ornate hamlet]

just dont use your vent, bubble, or skriers... unbind f. It will finish also try to make sure you get the elites and specials

[rich jolt]

Yeah ik. Thats what ive been doing

[ornate hamlet]

then get gud

[marble crater]

What doesn't work is taking 6 and then staying at 4, so it really doesn't matter too much. Only doing it with 4 is slightly easier. because you can be at max stacks easier, if you should ever drop them all.

[upper sun]

getting gud is too hard just bitch at fatshark with me until damnation looks like malice

[ornate hamlet]

that makes it harder

less enemies less stacks

[rich jolt]

Whining always works

No just make me stronger

And noone else

Only me

[ornate hamlet]

ogryn mentality i gotcha

[rich jolt]

The best kind of mentality

[upper sun]

unironically tho i feel like the game has been getting easier

[ornate hamlet]

yeah spawns dont work

[upper sun]

like less shit is spawning

[rich jolt]

It has since beta

[upper sun]

lmao

[ornate hamlet]

dont any of you watch telopots like every once and awhile

[upper sun]

like every couple of games id get one mission where the hoard works correctly and its fucking fun

[ornate hamlet]

within 5 minutes you will hear about it

[rich jolt]

Wat that

[upper sun]

sometimes i dont appreciate the anti psyker racism tho

[ornate hamlet]

finish dude

[rich jolt]

Ah

[upper sun]

bro exploded 3 times in one mission then kept talking shit about surge staff

[dense valley]

Psyker is our word but u can say Psyka

[leaden mulch]

What perk should I get for Zarona ?

[rich jolt]

Idk how some people have so much trouble keeping track of peril

Its easy for me

[leaden mulch]

is there any break point of Zarona for Psyker?

[ornate hamlet]

take dd aim for head problem solved

[plucky flax]

He's zealot main smh

[upper sun]

hes a great zealot ye

[plucky flax]

Better than me

[ornate hamlet]

why would any zealot main speak well about a psyker

racism is their dna

[plucky flax]

I main zealot and psyker.

[ornate hamlet]

self loathing

[leaden mulch]

What if I use EP is there any break point for anything, I can take Kinetic Present (+7.5 elite )

[ornate hamlet]

why, are you like this

why

you get 2 dmg boosts for guns

dd and skriers

besides that its just the base gun

taking ep and a gun is shooting yourself in the knee

[plucky flax]

If you spam assail all the time it's good.

[leaden mulch]

mainly I use revolver for smite + bubble + EP to save my teammate

[ornate hamlet]

bubble gun

[leaden mulch]

and clear hoard

[plucky flax]

Smite bubble

[ornate hamlet]

oh no

i need coffee

[leaden mulch]

smite + EP all the way

XD

[ornate hamlet]

first if your already going that low, use the void strike

[leaden mulch]

void strike is too slow

[ornate hamlet]

theres a blessing for that

[upper sun]

🤔 you on EU

[leaden mulch]

I mainly play on Auric maelstorm

so everything is chaos

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-monkey-dying-gif-13123180

[leaden mulch]

sometime I dont use bubble, but stun shield when there are any Mutant, dog hoard

[upper sun]

i played with a bubble smite revolver psyker they were very good with the revolver but

the revolver would do more with either gaze or in the hands of a vet

[leaden mulch]

while Void stike + warp furry is great, but in chaos situation, it's not good enough

[upper sun]

idk it has great cleave

if you line up things well it does work

[ornate hamlet]

positioning completly solves that issue, and you already have smite for control

[leaden mulch]

that true, but my smite can handle hoard

[upper sun]

smite doesnt kill hoards that well

[ornate hamlet]

un empowered smite doesnt

empowered smite is a vacume cleaner

still takes a few seconds though

and boring

[leaden mulch]

smite + enfee (+10) + malefic (+20) + ep (+1000) do really well with hoard

yeah that true

[untold niche]

@potent echo im back on nioh after a long time and im getting rekt by an onyudo (the tongue monk)

[ornate hamlet]

we are a step off the brain dead surge build

oh btw, why use a revolver when you have the surge staff. unless your going dd or skriers that is

[leaden mulch]

while surge is great, in AM(auric maelstorm) a lot of enemy are out of range, or very hard to hit while hoard is coming

[ornate hamlet]

lmb, kills shooters and snipers fine

and you can jump and shoot and you become an amazing anti bulwark tool which is usually one of the few things that make hordes deadly

and no reload

[upper sun]

took me forever

i hate whoever made webp

[ornate hamlet]

yeah

[leaden mulch]

webP?

[upper sun]

file format

its awful

[ornate hamlet]

3 of your staffs murder hordes

[neon steppe]

Fuck I love Voidstrike

[ornate hamlet]

i dont

remove it

[leaden mulch]

come to think again the reason why I use revolver, may be because I'm bored of using staff

[ornate hamlet]

yeah thats the one good reason

i appreciate that one

[leaden mulch]

I just finish calculation, revolver can only 1 headshot of Rager
if only it has max/almost max stats and only work with in 17m

so most of the time you will need 2 shot

only unyield will go trough break point of 2 headshot reaper

[strong gulch]

I like cara and flak on revolver. If your buffs fall off, it makes maulers and crusher needing one fewer shots. That's assuming crits with hand cannon T4.

[elder parrot]

Breaking points are overrated. Ironically an errant lil' smite zap chaining a chip off his hp bar could also achieve the 1shot

[strong gulch]

But other players usually help.

[elder parrot]

Mixed horde. Target select the elites. Seems like a good usage of smite, no?

[mental rock]

+elites will have the same effect as +cara and works on more targets

[elder parrot]

But anything not in Cara dies to a headshot regardless, so seems like a waste.

[ornate hamlet]

im not entirely keen on how the numbers are multiplied but that 10% elite might be doing jack diddly

10% crit dmg certainly is

doing jack

[strong gulch]

I think I tried with elites and I could be as sloppy with my aiming or something. I would have to retest.

[leaden mulch]

for mauler you better shoot body than head can easily 2 shot

[strong gulch]

with and no other buff ye

[ornate hamlet]

uncanny strike always go for the head

[mental rock]

Depends on blessings and talents, but in my experience +elites will bring crushers down to 2 headshot Crits, which is the same result as +cara

[elder parrot]

Usually maulers come in packs. My recipe for removal is spam peril generating voodoo->scream them on fire-smitelock while the chaff dies to burns-swap to sixgat and one-pop lasthit with the hand cannon pen. 1 bullet each for big ones and the small ones are cleared too.

[ornate hamlet]

i usually just stab them

maybe light them on fire

[elder parrot]

Smite isn't a tool in isolation. It's great for allowing non-instantly effective damage to actually be a value

[upper sun]

zealot here i just hit them with a stick

[elder parrot]

Any skill or blessing that applies soulfire and a ton of instant burst damage is effectively ruining the value of any dot effect

[ornate hamlet]

yooo my none psycotic brother... wait nvm still a fanatic

[elder parrot]

Dead targets don't take dot dmg.

[leaden mulch]

lol

[elder parrot]

The pen is mightier than the gun. If driven sharply into vital organs by a fanatic maniac.

Words to live by

[upper sun]

so tru guardian so tru

[elder parrot]

*if the gun is very small

[ornate hamlet]

need that pen to make blessings for thee sword

[elder parrot]

Don't you suppose hadron keeps an old Inkjet printer for those?

[ornate hamlet]

she is the printer

one of those arms is writting something

[upper sun]

knowing tech preists hadron prolly prays to the printer

[elder parrot]

Sounds about right.

[upper sun]

imagine being so shit at your job that you require an ogryn to teach you how to bless weapons

[elder parrot]

Makes funny noises and bricks any device I allow to connect with the system.

[ornate hamlet]

oh no, sah no no sah your doing it all wrong sah

[elder parrot]

Whatcha saying? Ogryns do the best seals.

It's just a folder with smiley-stickers and little stars.

[thorn cedar]

now im picturing an ogryn weaving handsigns like naruto

then he just throws a rock at you

[upper sun]

im picturing the fat bald dude from the witcher weaving hand signs

uhhh school of the viper guy uhhhh

[elder parrot]

Do you think the special rocks are given a lil' seal?

[ornate hamlet]

idk but i want you to seal that hole in the heratics face they call a mouth with that rock

[elder parrot]

Maybe just a Sharpie scrawl on a post-it note that reads "As per my last vox-transmission; re: subject: ROCK!"

[ornate hamlet]

just one of them has stchuuuupid

written on it

[marble crater]

Letho?

[elder parrot]

Alternatively on the explosive -To whomever it might concern

[ornate hamlet]

have a good day

[elder parrot]

Probably more reliable mail-delivery method than imperial standard postage

[ornate hamlet]

dont have to worry about return mail

[plucky flax]

He's a big guy

[elder parrot]

Hey, shrapnel is a kind of response, isn't it?

[upper sun]

4u

[upper sun]

ye

[plucky flax]

[ornate hamlet]

[elder parrot]

A very personal and empathic response even, when said shrapnel is composed of skull splinters and soft tissue shreds.

Which reminds me; can we please get shrapnel aoe damage tagged on to brainbursts already?

I want my enemies to be less hostile to me specifically, and be more hazardous to any allies in supersonic bone-splinter and scalding-hot-brain-tissue-splatter range.

[upper sun]

hell yeah i want to have a -100 threat at all times

[elder parrot]

I mean. When I blow my own brains up it works like that. Why not share the adventures of warp-kablowies with the blunts?

[round gull]

Why is assail gameplay so weird?

[dense valley]

man what is that finesse roll

[ornate hamlet]

[upper sun]

damn brunts not having a good day

[rigid sky]

What's so weird about it

[round gull]

It's like it hits whenever it likes

And wherever

Makes me sick

Prob I'm doing something wrong

[rigid sky]

You can force aim it with right click

Costs 25, does more damage

[spice veldt]

it locks onto targets that your cursor is over

[round gull]

I know

[rigid sky]

Left click is for spamming down stuff without needing precision

[round gull]

But even with that hits so weird

[spice veldt]

if the shard is within a certain distance of an enemy, hovering your cursor over them will cause them to lock, assuming that they have not been hit by the shard previously

[round gull]

And even if i'm aiming many times it hits not weak points

So it's as if i was not aiming but more expensive

[spice veldt]

yeah it's p random

[elder parrot]

Don't think of the shards as an actual weapon you can personally aim.

[round gull]

And what do I think about it?

[elder parrot]

Think of them more as a little handful of murder-happy psycho killer wasps.

[upper sun]

oh no ive got a knife psyker on the team either hes gonna kill everything or die instantly

[elder parrot]

They got a cheeky will of their own.

[near wyvern]

Yes, there is no between

Either you do or you don't with knife

[round gull]

I personally perfer BB rather than assail

[upper sun]

team died instantly let me face off 7 crushers

serves me right for playing non auric damnation

[mellow prairie]

this new one wouldlook good with the white and gold free robe

[elder parrot]

I just release them out into the freedom to soar through the wonderful land of a hive city (and target-rich warm-fleshy-hostiles-crowded zone)

Damn. After touching on mindburst blast aoe I dug through my old Dark Heresy RPG manual for the critical hit tables.

Whoever wrote this stuff up was a legit psychotic.

[round gull]

So what staff should I use with Assail?

[elder parrot]

And all we got was a pop and some blue smoke... Squandered potential, truly.

[meager gust]

sometimes they get abducted into the warp

(D/C)

i wouldn't mind turning inside out though

[plucky flax]

I use voidstrike with it.

[marble crater]

I use purgatus

[round gull]

oh,i was using purgatus

lol

[plucky flax]

If it works for you.

I had an assail purga psyker on the team this morning.

[round gull]

Well something with assail build does not convince me

[plucky flax]

He did the worst damage. Even worse than the smite purga bubble guy.

[marble crater]

Skill issue

Purgatus with assail is nice actually

[plucky flax]

[round gull]

I don't really like assail

In my opinion smite is more useful to the team

[marble crater]

Purgatus for hordes, DS4 for big boys, assail for specials, groups of gunners and shooters outside of purgatus range

[round gull]

DS4 is really good and OP XD

[patent steeple]

I myself kinda want to have wildfire on a purgatus build, and thus am forced to run BR, although I do have enough points to get both BR augments if I run EP so its fine...

I run dome shield with purgatus tho, and I no longer remember why

[marble crater]

Maybe my logic is wrong, but I figure I don't really need wildfire on purgatus, because I am burning everything all the time anyway

[patent steeple]

hmmm... fair point, I guess I should try taking off wildfire and see if I can make a purgatus build that uses Warp Charges and Shriek...

[near wyvern]

Don't go up to battery, it's a waste. You should be using that creeping flames as often as you can!

[dense valley]

and I'm here running brain rupture and take soul flayer so I will never have to switch to blitz lol

[round gull]

Brain rupture is really good

[upper sun]

Yes yes now only go one point into warp siphon

[rigid sky]

Flayer is bad though

[dense valley]

I find them extreme useful in missions like blackout and ventilation purge u can just spam tag and brain rupture w out even seein them lol

[rigid sky]

Kinetic Resonance on the other hand is great

Flayer lost its niche since patch 13

Shredder autopistol is out, high Finesse gun builds are in

And flayer doesn't contribute to stacking warp charges passively now

In theory it would be best on stuff like CIAG but you kill everything so fast with that anyway, it's redundant

[dense valley]

I think random 1 shot on rager or mauler is pretty good

[rigid sky]

On anything else it's occasionally nuking poxwalkers

[leaden mulch]

I love this armor, wish they give good head piece for the set too.

[marble crater]

It really is very nice

[dense valley]

Anyone find the hair options kinda ass lol I ran full walter white on all my character lol

[upper sun]

tfw no good psyker head 😭

[marble crater]

What hair options

[upper sun]

why liv

[leaden mulch]

earlier i use this and it look fine

[dense valley]

Damn

[leaden mulch]

just keep it in case they buff tac axe later

[dense valley]

These 80 are on point

[dusty girder]

hey hey, for a gun psyker what should I change? deathspitter to dumdum?

[marble crater]

I would change fire frenzy to Dumdum

Deathspitter also stacks 5 times

And it's power instead of just close range damage, power being damage, stagger and cleave(?)

[paper lily]

cleave as well ye

[dusty girder]

I see thanks (and it's rank 4, it looks prettier 👀 ). Should I keep unyielding? maniac is a safe choice, but boss damage is pretty nice too

[marble crater]

Keep it for bosses, yeah

[patent wing]

worse than the rending trauma double wall smite dude?

[dusty girder]

thank you

[plucky flax]

I only inspected the loadout never played with that based guy.

[patent wing]

i still dont understand the double walls, bubble should be better

[plucky flax]

This heavy hitter 5000 kills is

[rich jolt]

Yeah

All my male characters are bald

[hexed geyser]

I'm playing a game with 4 psykers, 3 smite and 4 bubble it's going great

[rich jolt]

Really?

[bold cape]

my male vet’s hair is sick, reminds me of geralt

[rich jolt]

I had a 4 psyker team a few hours ago lol

Guess there has been another psychic awakening

[marble crater]

4 psyker games either fail at the first encounter or you bully the mission director

[hexed geyser]

i think we lost less than 100hp combined for now

And only from dogs

[ornate hamlet]

ok since partical effects are dumb i could never tell when the purg was critting, it looks like the entire cast crits when it crits. if so the true aim isnt a wasted talent

but i maybe dumb that its taken me this long to notice

[upper sun]

holy shit i got good stuff for all classes

[ornate hamlet]

now thats the true achievement

[quick python]

he's the goodest gambler

[ornate hamlet]

though if your good stuff equates to a plasma gun, a void staff, and a zarona for zealot imma throw an ogryn at you

[plucky flax]

Penance farming got me like

[upper sun]

nah braced gun and twin linked gun

[ornate hamlet]

oh but i nailed the plasma eh not bad, not completely degen gun pool

[upper sun]

r u playing on a laptop in bed grinding?

[upper sun]

i will never build a pgun because they will get nerfed

[ornate hamlet]

nerf them

do it

[plucky flax]

No I'm at home now so on pc. I set up a macro then watch f1 on 2nd screen

[ornate hamlet]

remove cleave

[plucky flax]

Fuck this 5000 kills penance

[ornate hamlet]

vets suffer

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

even more baced

[plucky flax]

Heavy attack spam the door while I sleep

1281/5000

Gonna take a few hours.

[ornate hamlet]

we live in a time

i dont know whats worse, you using a macro or the fact that the macro is completely justifiable : edit it doesnt, atleast not in psycarnum... oh well

[plucky flax]

I hate it too. They could make it 500 or 1000.

But no let's do 5000

[patent wing]

which difficulty is that

[plucky flax]

Malice

[quick python]

it would be fine at 5000 IF the last keystone also triggered the penance

[plucky flax]

So there is no specials

[marble crater]

It's only a problem because you usually don't play ogryn with that keystone?

[plucky flax]

I just sleep

[ornate hamlet]

finally advanced from sedition

[upper sun]

barrage weakpoint

[upper sun]

🤔 even malice has random specials right?

[plucky flax]

Partly true. But 5000 is so many. The tankey keystone only require a few hundreds.