#psyker-class

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paper lily
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i unironically run unyielding on my achlys

ornate hamlet
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O.o im way to young for this... ill take my 22 and leave

long wharf
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replace blaze away with charmed reload

paper lily
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nah charmed reload is bait

wet belfry
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older audience is one of the better parts of the game anyways

long wharf
near wyvern
plucky flax
paper lily
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you have the choice of using less bullets to kill whats in front of you, or actively loading bullets to shoot more of them to accomplish the same thing

plucky flax
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Poor vets.

long wharf
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well, that's a them problem

paper lily
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mk4 qq cancel tech is my jam

wet belfry
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multiplayer with children are ugh.

paper lily
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u can h2 constantly

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with the knife i mean

ornate hamlet
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ogryn melees arnt bad, ogryn dodges are what kill ogryn for me

rigid sky
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Idk I just don't wanna use a knife lol

ornate hamlet
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i feel like im moveing through butter

plucky flax
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On psyker I have more melee kills than most ogryns these days.

ornate hamlet
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and slime

rigid sky
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I know how much they enable

plucky flax
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Just cos of the braindead guns spam playstyle.

paper lily
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lotta ogryns just kickback and w through shit

rigid sky
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But I just don't like the idea

long wharf
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the problem with achlys and point blank barrage is having to reload in the middle of it

rigid sky
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I recommend it for other psykers at least though

paper lily
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one thing i don't like about ogryn is how quintessential batter is as a node

long wharf
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with this, I don't worry about reloading

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that's John Warhammer's personal stubber

ornate hamlet
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i recommend the deimos to all psykers, go melee a horde with it

near wyvern
# wet belfry multiplayer with children are ugh.

It is a great way to practice parenthood. It is your job to carry the team while the idiots get nothing done, in fact make it harder for you and on top of that throw insults and flame you.

If you manage to stay calm, carry the game and get them to learn something by the end of the match you are good to go.

paper lily
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learn to laugh at toxic idiocy

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you can't escape it anyway

long wharf
plucky flax
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I spam surge but at least I'm not taking ammo. whatthefuck_heresy

ornate hamlet
rigid sky
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It teaches stoicism

long wharf
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it increases my blood pressure

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which I don't need

near wyvern
plucky flax
thorn cedar
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i'd love a gun that uses perils

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... that isnt just laspee push

long wharf
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honestly, gun psyker would be so much more interesting if we used warp to modify the gun we were firing

thorn cedar
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also wish we had another force sword with full-on knife move speed

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i wanna be able to quell with it

long wharf
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force rapier when

thorn cedar
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is really it

ornate hamlet
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just nothing to show it

near wyvern
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Where is "apply soulblaze to bullets, guns with less fire rate apply more stacks" talent

long wharf
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nah, we're firing the same bullets from the gun

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or bullets now penetrate and seek other targets

ornate hamlet
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soul blaze per bullet would be fun, also probly real quickly a problem

long wharf
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or lasers reflect X times

ornate hamlet
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reduce bullet dmg apply soulblaze

near wyvern
ornate hamlet
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there already is

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i think soul blaze goes to 31ish

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stacks

near wyvern
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Global max is 31 yes, blazing spirit is 6 on staves

long wharf
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that's per target

near wyvern
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Yes

ornate hamlet
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yeah and purg becomes 30 times better once you figure out how stacks fall off

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1 at a time

long wharf
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purge is decent, it's just... blinding

paper lily
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shoot assail from gun

long wharf
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now that's an idea with some chest hair

ornate hamlet
near wyvern
ornate hamlet
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yes

paper lily
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u just get penetrating spears instead of bullets

wet belfry
long wharf
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or use the warp to fire all the ammo in the gun's magazine as a single round

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turn that IAG into a m*fing cannon

paper lily
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instruction misunderstood, took mag and threw at enemy

near wyvern
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IAG will melt from the heat

paper lily
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might be ogryn

wet belfry
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Ive mostly accepted my fate by now in those types of games to be surronded by morons and not pretend that they are anything else.

long wharf
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or a lasgun into a persistent beam weapon

upper sun
near wyvern
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Recon lasgun becomes a god ray

paper lily
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nothing like seeing the dunning kruger curve repeat itself in every single game i play

ornate hamlet
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i think the closest we were to a good idea was soulblaze bullets

near wyvern
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Use peril per bullet to gain rending would be interesting

upper sun
ornate hamlet
ornate hamlet
near wyvern
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And again, scaling with fire rate

long wharf
upper sun
long wharf
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larger point is - it's not a proper "gun psyker" build if warp fuckery isn't at play

upper sun
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its balanced because you cant quell with it so you cant spam it too much or you have to quell with blitz/melee

ornate hamlet
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crit kinda ment to be the warp fuckery

long wharf
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currently, gun psyker is just... a psyker using a gun and getting damage buffs for free to do so

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it's all very uninspired

paper lily
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yep

near wyvern
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Currently gun psyker is constantly switchin between smite or assail and your gun

rigid sky
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Scrier's Gaze, Warp Rider and DD are the spooky bit

long wharf
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eh, it's more "gun until I run low on ammo or something not worth shooting"

long wharf
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just window-dressed damage buffs

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not something genuinely interesting or novel

ornate hamlet
near wyvern
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It would also be interesting if we got a node like "reloading while out of ammunition pulls a full magazine through the warp at the cost of peril"

ornate hamlet
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ew infinate ammo

long wharf
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.... I'm sitting here with Darktide up, and I just noticed that there's a lot of dialog about Masozi getting in trouble

ornate hamlet
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dont need another survivalist

near wyvern
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You can have it even trigger the POW

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So you have to go with venting shreik

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If you want to survive it

ornate hamlet
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thats just stupid

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no

long wharf
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I'd rather have the ability to throw my gun and have it explode into warp fuckery based on the ammo left in it

thorn cedar
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that's just borderlands

long wharf
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or a psyker archtype based around having a lot of wounds to purposefully self-destruct

upper sun
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ok pulling ammo from the warp is kinda anime territory

strong gulch
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Shoot gun or use it as warpy boomerang.

ornate hamlet
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you know there isnt enough grenade launchers, we need another fireball staff

thorn cedar
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like they couldve made gaze work so that when you hit f, it makes all shots you shoot cost peril

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but like

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this is a much more flexible ult

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that isnt just for guns

paper lily
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i mean u could make that work for staves as well

ornate hamlet
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gaze is fine with staffs, just risky

thorn cedar
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exactly ... so the thing we already have

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lmao

paper lily
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yeah

ornate hamlet
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my only wish with gaze is for the ability to press f and end it

paper lily
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i just don't think the reward is high enough for scriers outside of really niche goofy stuff like purg max crit stacks and the gun spell

near wyvern
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What if, you could use the staff special to end gaze and refund part of the CD

paper lily
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shriek gonna outperform it most of the time

long wharf
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SG would be better if it forced you to stop doing whatever you're doing (if generating peril) when it hits 100% peril

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don't get me started on staff special attacks

thorn cedar
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shriek outperforms entire teams in certain scenarios

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its just a ridiculously tooled ability

paper lily
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shriek straight up invalidates purg staff

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but i swear it's cuz the code doesn't apply for power scaling in regards to creeping flames

near wyvern
upper sun
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they gotta do something unique with the staff specials the bonk is so un creative

ornate hamlet
thorn cedar
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those people dont exist they cant feel pain

paper lily
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thing is purg has to use purg

near wyvern
ornate hamlet
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you can get crazy boss dmg with purg and skriers and a melee/ bb

rigid sky
paper lily
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yeah but boss damage is like bottom tier on considerations of going into a map

thorn cedar
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taking damage from a monster is a bad day for me

long wharf
thorn cedar
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killing it quickly is irrelevant

long wharf
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why would its feelings be hurt?

paper lily
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no one likes getting slapped around by a chaos spawn

upper sun
near wyvern
long wharf
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a team without boss kill can be easily endangered

paper lily
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u can just maths that one out probably

ornate hamlet
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i aint beating a columnus that aint fair

long wharf
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a team with multiple boss kill options doesn't sweat anything

paper lily
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whats max soulblaze stacks

ornate hamlet
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lmao

paper lily
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thing is you don't really need boss killing on anyone

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you just need people who know how to move

ornate hamlet
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yeah

paper lily
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and people who do their 'job'

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if ur a smite psyker smite the shit that aint the boss

long wharf
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boss kill can be a job

paper lily
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yeah but it's incredibly limiting and can even serve 0 purpose in maps

upper sun
long wharf
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my point is, "boss kill" is a valid role

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and having it makes life, on average, easier on missions

paper lily
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there's a reason i only see th zealots in monstrous special 80k aurics

upper sun
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yeah

near wyvern
long wharf
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you're better off having it and not needing it, than not having it and needing it

ornate hamlet
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the horde is more dangerous than the bos

paper lily
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just cuz builds aren't specifically tooled for dealing boss dmg doesn't mean you deal 0 boss dmg though

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and you're WAY better at the other jobs

long wharf
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true, but that doesn't change the value of having boss kill

paper lily
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i'd say it heavily diminishes it

long wharf
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the only class I bring focused boss kill on is Ogryn

thorn cedar
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i value boss kill about at the same level as horde clear

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which is to say not really at all

upper sun
ornate hamlet
thorn cedar
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its something you should already be accomplishing without much issue

long wharf
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and that's because gungryn is both boss kill and elite kill

paper lily
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gungryn is anti everything

thorn cedar
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i'd much rather have a hypersweatlord throwingknife zealot

long wharf
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yup

near wyvern
# ornate hamlet the horde is more dangerous than the bos

Nah, horde is easy. Boss is easy. It's when you have a Boss and then a body blocking horde when you get problems. Which is why smite + creeping flames + warp siphon is the best build for Psykers if you want to try hard AM. Change my mind.

thorn cedar
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who is anti-specialsiting the SHIT out of specials

paper lily
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chaos spawn + tiny room + 10 bulwarks

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have fun

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+whatever the fuck else it throws at you

upper sun
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they dont do 10 bulwarks anymore thankfully

ornate hamlet
long wharf
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it's really hard to beat a psyker with assail at being anti-specialist

paper lily
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i dunno, i've had some missions where i get backfilled standing in a fuckin corner getting bashed by multiple bulwarks

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i know they removed those huge packs but i swear you can just get unlucky with patrols sometimes

near wyvern
upper sun
long wharf
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does it seem like we get bigger groups of gunners, shotgunners, and crushers now?

thorn cedar
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after fighting a six pack of bulwarks
"lol i thought they nerfed these guys"
"they did, it used to be eight"

upper sun
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yes

paper lily
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shotgunners fucking hurt now

near wyvern
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They did buff bulwark HP

paper lily
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yea but the light stagger they added makes em easy to deal with

near wyvern
thorn cedar
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shooters are the ones that can hurt now

paper lily
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they changed the reduction from toughness broken

thorn cedar
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you dont get that ranged damage protection anymore

paper lily
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they always hurt but they hurt even more now

thorn cedar
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it's no longer wait til toughness breaks > find cover

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its tougness is low > find cover

near wyvern
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Shotgunner resist when? (Pls no melee only bug...)

paper lily
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they fixed that and then unfixed that real nice fatshark

long wharf
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there's gunner resistance

near wyvern
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Gunners are non issue

paper lily
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shotgunners can just straight up tap you if you're standing somewhere unfortunate

near wyvern
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It's the shotgunners that can get you in a blink

paper lily
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walk out the door hit u with that hadoken

thorn cedar
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and gunner resist wont do shit about their stagger

near wyvern
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You can just sprint slide out of gunner fire even when staggered

paper lily
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shotgunner stagger feels so bad

near wyvern
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Turn 90 or 180 degrees and start holding that shift

paper lily
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tfw i have 0 assail charges and just used my ult and 20 shotgunners came out the door

paper lily
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kekw i gotta tickle em down with surge

near wyvern
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That's fine too

thorn cedar
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i honestly run out of assail charges maybe once a round

paper lily
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my assail charges are constantly on 0

honest robin
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even if brunt hates me the servitor always got me

near wyvern
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Just sprint slide while channeling and spend dodges while casting. Since surge requires no brains to aim you can just focus on dancing.

paper lily
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sometimes i'm smart enough to time when a wave is gonna come out and have enough to chain stagger stuff

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the worst feeling is when us ee shotgunners come out of a door and they give 0 shits about you and are actively shooting other people

near wyvern
honest robin
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i dunno if im gonna upgrade it rn

thorn cedar
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"just got this casino chip hope it makes me a million dollars"

upper sun
honest robin
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i dont actually have a gunker gun do people like the shredder for it

paper lily
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i think i'm just lucky with random rolls i had insane gear like 200hrs in

upper sun
honest robin
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i assume people use columnus IAG

long wharf
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I am not seeing the appeal of smite with EP

paper lily
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i can post like 5 million scoreboards of me top dmg by a mile hard carrying every game with ep smite

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creeping flames kills another horde adjacent to what ur smiting

long wharf
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show me your talent tree, please

honest robin
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these days when i play psyker i do gunker stuff but only with my sword

near wyvern
ornate hamlet
near drift
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It kills hordes and squisher specials/elites while they can't do anything in return that's the appeal of EP smite

paper lily
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thats my build

honest robin
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im not spending any more mats i basically bankrupted myself making a evisc II for my zealot

near drift
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I don't do it pretty much ever cuz I find it too boring but it's good for what it tries to do

thorn cedar
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smite left click is the secret meta

paper lily
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secret spend all ur ep to do 1/3rd the stuff meta ye

near wyvern
# long wharf I am not seeing the appeal of smite with EP

Yeah I tested it with the buff. It's still not worth it. Creeping Flames + Warp Siphon is still better in all the possible ways. You loose too much utility and are forced to go from 0 to 100 and penalised so much from letting a groaner sniff you.

paper lily
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idk, just don't get hit 4Head

ornate hamlet
thorn cedar
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its just redundant

honest robin
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psyker flames are a huge pain in the ass for seeing stuff

long wharf
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smite just isn't fun for me

honest robin
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i use a purgatus though

ornate hamlet
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or woman

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or bird

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what ever you are

plucky flax
paper lily
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i wish i could crank the blur and shit cuz it's a pve game but ultrawide and high gfx on this game

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eh

honest robin
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purgatus is for any situation with too many idiots to kill for my sword to do all the work

paper lily
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my gpu might cry

near wyvern
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@honest robin

Here is Shredder at Auric Maelstrom. It was one patch ago but nothing really changed apart from Bulwarks taking one more BB to kill if out of EP charges and on low peril.

https://youtu.be/TRva-Bbg_ps

Showcasing the Brain Rupture buffs with some Shredder gameplay. Note that Empowered Psionics description is a lie, it doesn't reduce the cast time by 50% but rather increases the cast rate by +50%.

No, Shredder is not better than Columnus IAG but it makes a really interesting CC and Toughness generation tool with the right blessings given how t...

▶ Play video
plucky flax
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Hrm no blur for me.

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That's too much diziness.

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No blur no depth of field. Everything else is on.

paper lily
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depth of field annihilates ur fps it's wild

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does look good in this game tho

ornate hamlet
paper lily
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i will die on the hill that ep smite is the only way to play it

honest robin
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with a dueling sword? or something like an illisi

ornate hamlet
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deimos

honest robin
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im here to DUEL

ornate hamlet
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the rest bore me

bold cape
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motion blur is off always unless im playing a game at low fps, cause that’s what it was made for
but i try to get everything at 90 so rarely ever happens

thorn cedar
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if you are putting anything into buffing smite

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youre making a mistake

paper lily
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i legit have a 5% ranged dmg node to further buff smite dmg kekw

ornate hamlet
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though the ds4 is so straight forward my sister who has never played one of these games cant screw it up

honest robin
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just stab in head

ornate hamlet
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yep

paper lily
honest robin
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very few of the weapons have actual technical requirements

paper lily
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all of that ranged dmg is just smite only, i literally make it a point on that char to just smite shit

honest robin
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the evisc 2 requires a lot of combo management for optimal play but a lot of them are just "use lights for one thing use heavies for another"

ornate hamlet
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yeah my favorite weapons is where you mix heavy and lights

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on the same group

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or monster

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light spam make me sleep

honest robin
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evisc 2 is cool because there's like 4 ways to do its horde combo depending on the situation

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mixing heavies lights and pushes

near drift
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chainsword🙌 (not the newer one)

ornate hamlet
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grail knight ruined me with melee

paper lily
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why work harder when u can work smarter just lmb all day with evis15 kekw

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yeah that's ep smite

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i have even more egregious ss's

honest robin
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evisc 15 only kills 4 enemies a swing

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miserable

paper lily
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yeah but it also stuns all of them

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they'll still die no matter what

honest robin
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i've got a great xv but its not as mighty as my comparable II

upper sun
near wyvern
# paper lily like if u can come close to this with wc smite lmk cuz clearly im doin something...

Numbers depend completely on your team mates. If you have an ammo hoarding kickback ogryn no build is going to let you catch up on the numbers for it.

The reason why EP is bad with smite is you are penalised for using the LMB instant interrupt on trappers, flamers, dogs and bombers. Furthermore, Creeping Flames + Warp Charges allow you to completely lock down a room until it's safe again. This is even more beneficial when your team is fighting a monstrosity as the three others are free to nuke it.

Send me a clip like this with EP smite and we can talk.

https://youtu.be/yrOmLUfNMw4

This was done on Auric Maelstrom, the more elites you have the merrier this build gets. You can view this build among other things in The Psyker Atheneum:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

▶ Play video
paper lily
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every single game looks like that clip ngl

upper sun
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welll

paper lily
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every single scoreboard is me doing double the dmg of every other person

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i don't need to clear the room slowly, when i can kill everything now

upper sun
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we have been playing the same game with the same 5 missions in the same maps with the same builds for thousands of hours

paper lily
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i genuinely have even more insane screenshots i'm sure

ornate hamlet
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does it ever get old though?

paper lily
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can't remember which maelstrom numeral green dudes is but i can run it in those no problem as well

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yeah of course, that's why i'm playing magnus again

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it was just fun to play with funny insane overpowered buff number

ornate hamlet
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you see, i could have the powers of god or i could have fun... why i never use void staff

thorn cedar
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its really easy to pull numbers on smite because people see you doing it and they turn around and leave

untold niche
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but its funny :v

honest robin
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theres other options for instant interrupts on psyker you dont need to use the smite left click

untold niche
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most funny class

honest robin
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gonne

paper lily
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smite lmb as an interrupt is actually very good so he has a point there

untold niche
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GIVE ME BACK MYH ROLE

paper lily
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there are no ranged interrupts outside of gun that really beat it

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but smite doesn't even have a draw time, it's literally 0 seconds

honest robin
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my two beautiful eviscerators that brunt robbed me for

near wyvern
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You can pull crazy numbers with many builds, as long as your team mates are not running good builds its easy to get high numbers

paper lily
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also @near wyvern if you want to increase efficiency with smite highly recommend staff quelling

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yeah i mean ur team just took forever

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what i'm trying to say is that, those i posted aren't outliers

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that's EVERY SINGLE BOARD

near wyvern
near wyvern
paper lily
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i'm focusing on killing everything

marble crater
paper lily
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every board i have top dmg elites, disablers, everything

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except boss but that's to be expected

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even ones where i'm not top top damage for a certain category i'm way more than competitive with it

near wyvern
honest robin
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i uninstalled scoreboard and im building up my powerDI stats noq but heres a screenshot my friend sent early this patch

paper lily
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idk what you mean, ep smite with shriek kills everything ragers and below

honest robin
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if you're gaming hard enough you can go wacky on whoever

paper lily
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with proper peril management literally nothing is a threat

honest robin
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i've got ogryn scoreboards like this

paper lily
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yeah i mean ogryn is just op

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wait wtf now that i'm looking at my scoreboard i have like 20 games won in a row but no penance completed

supple dock
radiant frigate
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but you were with someone with a similarly gobliny name

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309k boss damage what

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gnot a gnogryn..

honest robin
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its not me its a friend from a different discord

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my chars are Pizzahut Tacobell (z), Carling Chugger (o), Agglomeration (p), and Scrimmy Bingus (v)

thorn cedar
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why is only your zealot american

honest robin
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my ogryn looks like he lives in a pub

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Scrimmy Bingus is a popular Baby's Name

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agglomeration i probably should have named after tilda swinton somehow instead

round gull
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Is +20% damage to maniacs in a sword worth it?

marble crater
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Depends on what you use the sword for, but yes it can be

round gull
marble crater
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And which staff?

round gull
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It's in sword

round gull
upper sun
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33 minutes 1155 plasteel

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should have always been this way smh

round gull
upper sun
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quick play+ helping 1 person with the puzzle

marble crater
paper lily
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they're pretty big...

upper sun
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void is great and very balanced pls never use it

round gull
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And the guy with two axes always gets me and...whatthefuck_heresy

marble crater
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You can use a dueling sword or deimos then, for mutants and big boys, so maniac and carapace, it's what I use on my DS4

round gull
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Just the one which I bought with that was Deimos

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IT DESTROYS

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Crazy

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I should prove dueling sword

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People usually says is good

marble crater
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It's very good

honest robin
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maniac boost mostly matters for hitting breakpoints vs dreg ragers

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check the breakpoint calc for if you can get away with skipping it

willow hazel
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the DS4 is possibly the best melee weapon in the game

honest robin
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for the one thing it does yeah

willow hazel
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it does everything but hordeclear

paper lily
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it's not even awful at hordeclear like it's serviceable

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probably one of the best special attacks in the game

honest robin
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the one thing it does is kill single targets you're next to it doesnt clear OR manage hordes, but psyker can do that otherwise

honest robin
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if maniacs +20 lets you one shot a rager you couldnt do before its very valuable

willow hazel
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kill single targets you're next to
It also kills single targets you are far away from, you just have to move closer first

honest robin
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if it goes from 2 hits to 2 hits the perk doesnt matter

paper lily
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eh i mean it still matters, just not in a vacuum

honest robin
honest robin
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yeah doing a little more matters if other people are fighting it, but there's probably a better perk pick

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also keeping in mind what kind of combo chains do get kills

paper lily
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i think i use unarmored and maniacs on my ds4

round gull
honest robin
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breakpoints for true optimization are pretty hard to work out

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a great example is DS4 where you're happy getting a kill with a h1 chained into the special stab

paper lily
#

feels nice to do that on mutants for sure

marble crater
#

Unarmored on the DS4? sus

willow hazel
#

Breakpoints are a bit overrated. Psyker has so much variable damage they are hard to rely on

honest robin
#

you can play the game without thinking about breakpoints but it makes settling on a weapon that's going to be capable in damnation a lot easier

thorn cedar
#

ye

paper lily
#

most things that have flak are also unarmored in the face, and it helps with clear on 2nd targets

thorn cedar
#

DD stacks, warp rider, yaddayadda

willow hazel
#

The reason to run unarmored on any psyker weapon is for soulblaze breakpoints

thorn cedar
#

its a mess

#

compared to vet where things are just on or off

willow hazel
#

scriers gives somewhere between 10-40%

thorn cedar
#

and 0-30 weakspot

willow hazel
#

Warp Expenditure is 0-20%

honest robin
#

flak damage is good for the bodies of mauler and various parts of bulwark and ripper, though you can go unyielding and kill those better, but theres also just a lot of flak in mixed hordes

thorn cedar
#

ya gotta go by da feelz

willow hazel
#

Yup

upper sun
#

flak maniac go brrrr

#

me brain too smooth for damage breakdowns i just put flak maniac on everything

willow hazel
#

when in doubt, flak maniac

paper lily
#

still better to stab maulers in the face i think

round gull
#

What do I have to select here?

honest robin
thorn cedar
#

w/e attack you use for particular enemies

paper lily
#

aren't we talkin ds4

honest robin
#

i think ds4 you should be running the rending blessing so face stabs are good yeah

#

carapace might be good on ds4 depending on how you perform vs dreg ragers

#

spending time in the psykanium is more important than the calc for sure, but the calc is fast

honest robin
paper lily
#

mk4 has one for special

#

light one is the first light attack you do basically

honest robin
#

oh yeah mine shows special 1 when i select it

paper lily
#

smaller numbers under are how much hitmass you can cleave

honest robin
#

i assumed golden had linked a ds pane

paper lily
#

i think a groaner is like .75 or something

#

legit can't remember

#

anyway ds4 has shit cleave anyway

marble crater
#

Don't bully the DS4, it's not easy to cleave with that blade Dank

supple dock
#

fuck the DS4, become knifepilled

honest robin
#

ds4 no buffs but precog and uncanny active one shots dreg rager with head crits

supple dock
#

I prefer riposte over precog

honest robin
#

i think you can skip maniac

supple dock
#

riposte is just so nice and it's mega easy to keep active

honest robin
#

precog went way up in value when ragers became dodgeable

supple dock
#

not to mention it works well with your talent that gives toughness on crit

#

TRUE

round gull
supple dock
#

But in a general sense riposte is easier to manage still

round gull
honest robin
#

6 seconds vs 2 is nice but im always goin sicko mode with my sword

supple dock
#

yeee, it needs a more aggressive playstyle

honest robin
#

whhats the crit chance on an 80 finesse ds4 and are there any crit chance perks...

supple dock
#

There's a 5% crit chance perk

#

And I honestly don't know the DS4's value

#

Where's atlas when you need him

honest robin
#

i thought there was a mod that showed hidden stats

plucky flax
#

Think it's just 5.

honest robin
#

i dunno why i dont have it if it exists

#

the finesse stat isnt modifying the chance and i think psykers 5 base iirc

plucky flax
#

7.5

willow hazel
#

the dueling sword doesn't get any extra crit from stats like some other weapons

honest robin
#

5% aura, scryers gaze is 20

#

oh shit true aim is gonna be crazy because i just got a surge void staff

supple dock
honest robin
#

riposte might be better just because its hard to crank your crit chance enough to benefit from the finesse damage

supple dock
honest robin
#

uncanny strike is too based to not take

#

defeat crushers with martial skill

supple dock
#

Not to mention, it's really good for psyker because of the damage stacks off of critting and toughness regen off of critting

honest robin
#

i was hoping disrupt destiny gave crit chance but only scryers

#

just having the higher base crit rate of riposte is higher value rn is my official judgement

thorn cedar
#

prescience and your one crit node can do plenty but

#

prescience means not taking one with the warp

#

which i consider inexcusable

#

can we talk about how psykers best aura isnt even an aura node

marble crater
#

Also means no shriek 🤮

thorn cedar
#

its just some fucken blue node

marble crater
#

Psykentic's Aura?

thorn cedar
#

yea

marble crater
#

So nice

upper galleon
#

yea crit chance locking you out of taking shriek sucks ass

thorn cedar
#

shriek is for babies

honest robin
#

i probably need to jog over my current build is hard right side but if im not going precog then prescience is less important than having gaze all the time

thorn cedar
#

gaze puts hair on ur chest

upper galleon
#

then goo goo gaa motherfucker

thorn cedar
#

lmao

honest robin
#

shriek is funny

upper galleon
#

i've edged since launch i can't stop now

fresh reef
#

Gun psyker is very satisfying to play

#

Especially so when 6 reapers pull up

honest robin
#

its training wheels but its also redline enabler

thorn cedar
#

thats why im so done with shriek, we had only it for a full year

honest robin
#

i honestly dont spend enough time generating peril on most of my builds to run shriek

fresh reef
#

Shriek is also good for dumping your ability to enable BB

#

Kinetic Barrage + Blue Drugs is really funny

thorn cedar
#

i do shield wall for that

#

two triggers for resonance

#

safe from guns and specials

honest robin
#

shield wall is also pretty clutch in various situations yeah

fresh reef
#

I find the on-demand stagger more useful

honest robin
#

i need to learn to play psyker different than i play ogryn and zealot lol

fresh reef
#

Especially so since I play like a crackhead and my solution for shooters is to just run at them with EE purgatus

supple dock
#

Crit aura is so..

#

Mid

untold niche
#

Fatshark does fomo cosmetics but still doesn't want to do a -50% off sale smh

untold niche
#

More people to tempt for fomo cosmetics

supple dock
#

aaa

untold niche
#

Meaning more momey

upper sun
supple dock
#

Okay yeah that makes sense

#

I was confused cause I was like 50% off darktide???

untold niche
#

All my friends just say, even on sale " nah 30 dollars too expensive"

upper sun
#

even more slots would incentivize people to buy more sets for each build

#

but no you only get 5 slots

upper galleon
#

didn't darktide go on sale recently

upper sun
#

ye

#

25 dollars for 1k hours is too expensive would not buy

plucky flax
#

The swag pogryn

supple dock
#

deluxe skin best skin

#

black and skulls everywhere

marble crater
#

12m dockets but only 90k plasteel, how does that work sus

plucky flax
#

I craft a lot.

marble crater
#

Then you must be lucky with getting bases whaaa

upper sun
plucky flax
#

No I spent 1.5 mil 2 days ago and only got 3 okay bases. Not even that good. All 3 got trashed by hadron.

#

So I cried. SadgeCry

upper sun
#

wow 1.5 for 3 bases

plucky flax
#

Was trying to get an upgrade for my plasma gun.

upper sun
#

takes me a mil for a good one

plucky flax
#

I said okay. Not good.

supple dock
#

The knife I'm currently using cost like..

#

1.8m?

#

Not too bad

upper sun
#

bruh

#

do not build pguns

plucky flax
#

I mean my standard of good is minimum 79% damage.

upper sun
#

no way that shit is lasting it has to get nerfed

#

damn i must be extra unlucky

#

i was ok with deimos 77+ and i still only got one good base in 2-3 weeks of grinding

thorn cedar
#

yea i gotta spend some docks

bold cape
#

i cant wait to not interact with the crafting system

thorn cedar
#

thought id wait til the rework but

#

gonna cap out

plucky flax
#

Like I just crafted this for some meme build. That's a pretty good base.

#

Not super good as i wanted 80% ammo too.

#

And 25% maniac if possible. SadgeCry

upper sun
#

🙄

plucky flax
#

I have a lot of hours so naturally I just have more luck.

#

Just craft better. whatthefuck_heresy

upper sun
#

this is the one i use

plucky flax
#

Change the other perk too.

#

Graia baced right click is so funny.

#

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

upper sun
#

ikr i miss the days of survivalist it never ran out of ammo if there was a vet on the team

plucky flax
#

Yeah...

#

Make it 2s cd. nooooo

upper sun
#

my other graia

#

smh they really dont make em like they used to

plucky flax
#

They need to buff graia infantry.

#

It has worse recoil and worse dps than columbus.

upper sun
#

ye

plucky flax
#

Thing is so borked.

#

They need to reduce recoil, up damage more.

upper sun
#

remove stability as a stat

#

all guns that have the same name should feel the same

#

not my fault the devs arent creative enough to think of a 5th stat

plucky flax
upper sun
#

i should tape an X to my monitor

plucky flax
near drift
steady terrace
#

any tips how to do the achivement to knock off 7 people off a ledge within 2 seconds

#

feels like an oppurtunity to do so is very rare

plucky flax
#

When it was much harder.

#

I think it was 20?

steady terrace
#

oh I never thought about using that area

#

cheers

upper sun
wild sage
marble crater
#

Trauma works for nothing (please buff) pray

thorn cedar
#

25 more smite kills

#

almost free

marble crater
#

Just need to find 25 more lone poxwalkers

patent wing
#

i have 2 very similar purge staffs, the only difference is that one has +infested perk and the other one has +4% crit - what would u guys play

upper sun
supple dock
#

you do enough damage to infested anyways and purg crits like a motherfucker

supple dock
#

and crits = 2 stacks instead of 1

patent wing
#

the crit staff also has 48 base dmg instead of 30 so might be really better :D

plucky flax
#

Smite penance counts when teammates kill them too no?

#

Pretty sure it's one of the easiest one. Just spam smite.

marble crater
#

Yes

strong gulch
#

Ye

#

Apparently surge RMB counts too.

#

Hold a group of elites for other classes grenade penances. They die fast and you both get credit.

supple dock
patent wing
#

Did they change dh? i have a 3 stam curio with KD and cannot infinitely block it

supple dock
#

When was the last time you tried that?

patent wing
#

idk

supple dock
# patent wing idk

Well, a WHILE ago you could infinitely block because you'd degenerate peril even when being attacked

plucky flax
#

Bruh I am inspecting a lvl 505 psyker in the hub.

#

Rending trauma smite double walls warp charges.

#

What a build. pogryn

strong gulch
#

They changed the passive quell of non-force weapons awhile ago so you can't just tank a DH anymore. If you know the attack pattern, you can still shriek and quell with a force sword.

Force sword doesn't have infinate dodges anymore too.

fresh reef
marble crater
#

I think I started playing after infinite dodges, never got to experience it throwing

fresh reef
#

I played infinite dodge force sword

#

It uh

#

Honestly wasn't that great

marble crater
#

Thank you for trying to make me feel better

upper sun
upper sun
#

maximum support

#

so supportive i bet hed help you move if you messaged him rn

fresh reef
#

Then again I exclusively play high dodge weapons like dueling sword and knife, so I may be biased

patent wing
#

this guy assuming his teammates stay alive lol - he must have premades

upper sun
#

ah the dream

supple dock
upper sun
#

man idk i play worse with friends

fresh reef
plucky flax
#

His illisi is stamina block efficiency deflector exorcist KEKW_ogryn

fresh reef
#

But like, good enough to transcend how it feels to play?

#

Not for me

plucky flax
#

Man is trying his best to do no damage.

supple dock
#

Yeah no i get you

fresh reef
#

5 insanely good dodges > infinite use garbage dodges

upper sun
#

hell yeah

marble crater
#

Oh they weren't infinite good dodges? Nevermind then

plucky flax
#

Wut they were just current dodges but infinite

upper sun
supple dock
#

the force sword is more about controlling the immediate area imo

#

The dodges are ..ok

patent wing
#

maybe he can perma tank dh with it kek

plucky flax
fresh reef
upper sun
#

invite him

patent wing
#

(3 curios with block eff)

plucky flax
#

I am in bed now. His build put me to sleep.

spice veldt
#

infinite dodges was nice cuz you could ignore dodge management

plucky flax
#

He ran 3x stamina and 2x toughness curios

#

With triple allies revive pogryn

upper sun
#

wow 5 curios...

supple dock
#

i am running 3x stam

plucky flax
#

As in 1x 3 stam

supple dock
upper sun
#

ah yeah

supple dock
#

I have +9 stamina

upper sun
#

3 stam goes to all classes tbh

patent wing
#

so stamina regen?

supple dock
#

no, actual total

#

and regen

fresh reef
#

Controversial, Stam on melee weapons is cool and good

patent wing
#

i have to try that

upper sun
#

i tried playing full wound zealot i couldnt revive people i normally could

supple dock
#

I have not noticed an increase in my going down

plucky flax
#

Wut you must have so low hp and toughness

supple dock
#

90/160

upper sun
#

bruh

#

thats nothing

plucky flax
#

Bruh moment

#

Enjoy burster in da face

supple dock
#

Literally just don't get hit

marble crater
#

It's okay, he is a pro player though

supple dock
#

lmao naw im kidding I get wrecked still

marble crater
#

He can blitz cancel

upper sun
#

you're not allowed to play basket with us noobs and our 220 toughness

hexed geyser
#

I fear bursters but that's it, my build is 170/135

supple dock
#

blitz cancelling is too hard

plucky flax
#

How you just press buttons whatthefuck_heresy

patent wing
#

i had a 197 toughness psyker build when i started

supple dock
#

I mean I can get it perfectly mecanically

upper sun
#

hell yeah

hexed geyser
#

Triple toughness lol

paper lily
#

Blitz cancelling is too fun

supple dock
#

But I end up focusing on it too much and my awareness lowers

patent wing
#

triple toughness with triple toughness

supple dock
#

But I've incorporated it into the way I play normally

#

Pretty fun tech

patent wing
#

i only animation cancel trauma idk

hexed geyser
#

My toughness with dmg red is perfect to tank a sniper shot without losing health

supple dock
#

had quite a few stupid deaths because I was expecting my old hp pool

marble crater
#

You have +9 stamina, how can you be out of position? Just sprint into position again smart

hexed geyser
#

The crusher wall in front of you :whatthefuck_heresy

patent wing
#

i wish i had those for my speedlot but its hard to find +3 stam wiuth 76 base

supple dock
#

melk money is how I got mine

supple dock
patent wing
fresh reef
#

TIL I can tank a Crusher overhead with 3 hp left

#

175t/172hp

hexed geyser
#

That would be sick
Let me dodge to the other side of barricades

patent wing
#

nah i mean just enemies

fresh reef
#

I stand there

#

He hits me

#

I don't die

hexed geyser
#

I feel like that's still not enough health for it

patent wing
#

idk i thought blocking takes some dmg off

#

but i dont know i always dodge or go down

#

thats why i often take parry sword 4

#

but it has shit waveclear, even with l1h1 combo

spice veldt
#

block just gets you guardbroken and doesn't mitigate any damage from block bypass attacks

patent wing
#

maybe its my 70dmg/61 cleave base stat

cinder moon
#

do you have a health curio?

hexed geyser
#

I'm not sure how it works but i dont think the overheads from crushers and maulers care about a block

patent wing
#

yes

#

xd

cinder moon
#

you can tank an overhead with a health curio

patent wing
#

i run health tough stam

thorn cedar
#

3x toughness gang

lyric burrow
#

i ran 3x toughness for a bit but honestly didnt feel a huge difference with the 3rd one

#

so i just do 2x toughness 1 health

spice veldt
#

cringe

lyric burrow
#

arco you literally agreed with me

spice veldt
#

oh I'm not disagreeing with that

I'm disagreeing with your presence

lunar hollow
#

arco literally agrees with me

spice veldt
#

cringe

lyric burrow
#

wow

lunar hollow
#

i dont let him figuratively agree with me

#

as he is a goose

lyric burrow
#

attacked for no reason

#

i must have used the wrong door

lunar hollow
#

and does not understand metaphors

lyric burrow
#

shut up

spice veldt
#

cribng gewgw tgeye

lyric burrow
#

hey stan

lunar hollow
lyric burrow
#

shocking answer

lunar hollow
#

truly

dusk void
upper sun
#

holy shit cross inventory when? i found this shit cleaning out my vets inventory

long wharf
#

2x health, 1 x3 stamina

upper sun
#

KEKW_ogryn you really wanna see me fail dont you

#

sure

dusk void
upper sun
#

actually not horrible

upper sun
dusk void
#

So 4 seconds is what you’re telling me

upper sun
#

very smol diff

long wharf
dusk void
upper sun
#

i still need one for zealot too

#

i royally bricked like 4 for zealot

rigid sky
#

Flakelite and surgical cannon that bitch up

#

Reload speed ignored entirely if you go weapon spec too

#

Practically perfect

upper sun
#

now just gotta spend 20k plasteel for hand cannon 4

true lake
#

I prefer quickly using the stub revolver rather than aiming down for a while

#

but 0.35 sec isn't that bad for each stack

prime elk
#

Surgical stacks very quickly anyway

stable silo
#

i got a sick revolver for my zealot with reload as a dump and never really noticed the lack

#

dare i meme ?

cinder moon
#

revolver with point blank is great for quickly deleting specials

#

if you want max stacks of surgical, it's like 4 seconds or something

mental grail
#

How the fuck do I use MGIV kantrael

cinder moon
#

you don't

stable silo
#

not on a psyker

mental grail
stable silo
#

i loved that gun on my zealot though unsure if trhey nerfed the shock trooper crit/weakshot build

#

i mean veteran*

cinder moon
#

it's fine on vet, though there are better choices

mental grail
#

I was running a right side crit dd build

#

wasn't too bad just felt "off"

#

Like this but with prescience instead of seer's

cinder moon
#

use laspistol

#

psyker gets force push for its alt attack

rigid sky
#

Accatran laspistol for duelling shooters

#

Or CIAG for raw DPS

#

Also the middle point for DD is bad

#

Soulstealer much better

long wharf
#

er, Battle Meditation

rigid sky
#

Yeah, battle meditation actually good for gunker

long wharf
#

quelling on kill makes SG much more manageable

wind spruce
cinder moon
#

if you have a health curio, yes

wind spruce
#

No you can't lol

supple dock
#

Didn't Atlas do a bunch of example videos?

cinder moon
#

i've done it before

wind spruce
long wharf
#

on damnation?

supple dock
#

Oh, it was you

wind spruce
#

Even with three health curios

supple dock
#

No wonder I had a hard time finding it

wind spruce
#

And three health perks

supple dock
#

I thought it was atlas KEKW

wind spruce
#

And every block efficiency bonus

#

People just be straight making stuff up

cinder moon
#

where link

real sundial
#

Is smite a viable build?

rigid sky
#

I think most people run it with Surge, some people do with void or guns

#

General rule, if you run Smite then you also want to run Shriek with Creeping Flames

wind spruce
rigid sky
#

I run it with Surge and EP personally

cinder moon
wind spruce
#

(Skip to the last swing at just after a minute in)

cinder moon
#

do it work vs maulers

#

or with overshield from VOC?

marble crater
#

Had a shield ogryn that didn't use a single heavy melee all game throwing

marble crater
#

He also had 6 wounds for some reason staregryn

lyric burrow
#

the single move on shield worth using is a heavy

#

😭

marble crater
#

Yeah, spamming heavies on shield is op

lethal lagoon
marble crater
#

Supporting in getting the penance for picking up teammates maybe

lethal lagoon
#

He carried the team on his back and you don't apperciate it

lethal lagoon
#

Even I have limits of what I will joke about

#

That's too far.

marble crater
#

Some things are crazy, it was a normal damnation mission and that was more stressful than the high int lights out auric run before that KEKW_ogryn

strong gulch
lethal lagoon
marble crater
#

Can't believe that AgentChaos guy has a YouTube channel to share builds smh my head

upper sun
#

max item rating for my levle 30+++ psyker 358
max item rating for my second zealot level 29 366

#

huh

#

im starting to believe atlas' lies about bugs causing psyker store level to drop

long wharf
#

yeah no, that's not a thing

upper sun
#

too late i already subscribed to his podcast

iron latch
#

Is anyone available to help me get the Maellus Monstronum penance?

Strike team 4

iron latch
upper sun
#

no if you click e in the mission terminal it should show you your ping for each region

iron latch
#

Oh, give me a second

#

NA

upper sun
#

im eu but i think it can work ive played with people in australia before its not awful

iron latch
#

Sure, I just need to kill a monstrosity

upper sun
#

cant use vc tho its like 2:25 here

iron latch
#

It's fine

upper sun
#

invite me

#

dh thing would work as well with bots now since if it kills them id goes away even if i aggro it

iron latch
#

Invited

#

Thanks dude

upper sun
#

that was easy KEKW_ogryn

#

no worries

iron latch
#

This build really made it easy

#

empowered psyonics + venting quickening

upper sun
#

ye i tried it when it was 90% didnt go so well

iron latch
#

Same

marble crater
#

Skill issue

somber phoenix
#

So like is psyker limited to being a stagger bot in this patch

upper sun
#

yes psyker very weak fatshark pls buff

marble crater
#

Trauma deals no damage, just staggers, please buff

iron latch
#

Trauma is by far the worst

#

Followed by Surge

#

Purgatus and then Voidstrike

ornate hamlet
spice veldt
#

i was waiting for a hot takes person to finally show up

ornate hamlet
#

which hot take we talking about, psyker being a stagger bot, or trauma being the worst staff. All i know is i just got back from the doctors i here to watch

#

walked 10 miles back home because medical transportation never showed up whatthefuck_heresy

ornate hamlet
#

mah legs

marble crater
#

How long did that take you?

ornate hamlet
#

idk i dont have a watch

#

roughly 2 and a half hours

#

stopping in stores and such

#

got rent

marble crater
upper sun
#

me when i had to walk for ~2 hours to get some shit translated because german buses didnt go there

strong gulch
#

Glad you got home.

#

I wouldn't have made it.

ornate hamlet
#

im in america, busses are a joke outside of cities

upper sun
#

smaller cities in germany too

ornate hamlet
#

need more bus stops

ornate hamlet
#

could be better

#

anyway off to torcher myself with darktide, a plaque of poxbursters is about to befall me

upper sun
#

join game
everyone is dead
revive one person then he revives the rest
leave game

#

sorry too much pressure ill only play worse after that

ornate hamlet
#

lmao

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actually commisar cain. did just enough to not be shot for cowardice

upper sun
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hes just like me fr fr

ornate hamlet
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i wouldnt go that far

upper sun
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what do you mean im literally him

ornate hamlet
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you know what you are, go charge that blood thirster you hero

upper sun
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shy hero

ornate hamlet
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cowardice OmegaGuardsmanHype

upper sun
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bruh first buy

ornate hamlet
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O.o

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if it doesnt brick get a lotto ticket

upper sun
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nvm

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crit chance crit damage precog

ornate hamlet
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rip

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its still got a chance but odds are not in your favor

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crit is atleast good

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crit chance, the dmg is laughable

upper sun
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eh i have good versions of everything now maybe with the crafting update ill finally be able to turn that shit into what i actually want

ornate hamlet
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cant wait for the crafting update to make it so instead of getting 300's the lowest you get is something like 330 and nothing else

upper sun
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man i dont even want a massive change just add a third lock and call it a day

ornate hamlet
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i would like a massive change

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get rid of the lock on how much you can alter a weapon

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thats just dumb

upper sun
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we cant have shit in atoma man

fresh vessel
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pals

upper sun
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i'm just being realistic no way were getting something actually good and easy to use because some people at GW only play mobil games and think that the grind is whats fun

fresh vessel
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Am I the only one disappointed the maelstrom title is kinda mid compared to the regular auric title

fresh vessel
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Reject and Nomad are also good.

upper sun
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theyre both kinda mid

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give me golden reject

ornate hamlet
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no reject the title system

fresh vessel
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Ministorum Lackey is also kinda nice.

ornate hamlet
marble crater
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But it looks so pretty

ornate hamlet
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and smells awful

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get that turd away

mental grail
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I think I will use it until I unlock nomad

bold cape
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i think no title is better than reject or lackey lmao

strong gulch
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I'm a no title enjoyer.

mental grail
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I am a reject tbf

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I literally wear a collar

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I think every single psyker chest has a collar on it

upper sun
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ye

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everything has to fit together

ornate hamlet
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why does everyone (ive seen) make their psykers look healthy

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your dude is on space crack and you guys make them into anime protags

mental grail
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he has self esteem again after being given a second chance to die in the Emperor's name (he's wizard cop)

ornate hamlet
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still on crack

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shouldnt have a full set of teeth

mental grail
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through crack usage he has lost his sight

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it's why he wears the shroud

marble crater
mental grail
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also savant legitimately does sound healthy

ornate hamlet
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you dont look at your charater, 95% of the time your staring at a weapon

mental grail
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he sounds like he bathes

ornate hamlet
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and savent yeah

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fair point

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the other 2 on the other hand

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no excuse pure crack heads

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with a side of meth

mental grail
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seer (especially female seer) sound like heroin addicts going through forced rehab

ornate hamlet
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my man is going through withdrawl

marble crater
ornate hamlet
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cant remember if i made him tall or short

marble crater
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You can't lecture people and then have a psyker that looks like some random dude you see in the store while shopping

ornate hamlet
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i should zoom in on the face

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hes not pretty

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i dont think i had the option of making his body deformed

gaunt seal
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Average penance completionist (it’s me)

ornate hamlet
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all you need

upper sun
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heretics hate how little it takes to make us happy

upper sun
mental grail
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wizard cop enjoyers thumbsup_ogryn

ornate hamlet
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magic is still crack

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need to spread magic awarness

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not safe for consumption

ornate hamlet
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murder. look at someone the wrong way

upper sun
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uhhhhh whats the yellow garb for again?

mental grail
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And I mean tbf in lore primaris psykers (aka the really decrepit ones) only look kinda scrungly

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bro is rocking that beard

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We are about in line with armor

mental grail
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I think his set was in the shop

upper sun
cinder moon
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my "just testing" fit

mental grail
upper sun
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my testing/penance fit is yellow garb