psyker-class

[upper sun]

anyone have any tricks for this?

[plucky flax]

Stun then flamer.

Pay with real $$$.

[upper sun]

😭 tried that shit the wave didnt even spawn

[upper sun]

fatshark doesnt even know how to make money if cosmetics are linked to layout slots having more slots insentives people to buy sets for each layout

[slate oasis]

it's crazy that you need mods to have more than 5 loadout slots

[marble crater]

Premade so team doesn't kill the horde

[marble crater]

[slate oasis]

and to name the loadouts as well instead of using symbols

[upper sun]

I just did monster on psyker ive done my socializing quota for this month

[marble crater]

The month just started

[plucky flax]

Just FartShart things.

[upper sun]

yes

[marble crater]

Well if you change your mind I can help you with it at some point

[upper sun]

thanks

[plucky flax]

Wut ep bb doesn't 1 shot flak rager.

[upper sun]

much to do 😭

[upper sun]

nope and you need high-ish peril for non flak rager

[plucky flax]

No just ep bb is enough to kill dreg rager.

[upper sun]

ye i was thinking non ep

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah.

[marble crater]

Vet and Ogryn are crying

[upper sun]

i play vet the least tbh idk how its higher than ogryn

[marble crater]

Vet easier to get during normal play I guess

[radiant frigate]

how are you supposed to explode their brains if they don't have one

[plucky flax]

Don't have what

[radiant frigate]

brain

or maybe they have one of these

[upper sun]

their heads are already exploded from all the anger makes sense why it wont effect them as much

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[ornate hamlet]

Not a bad pull i feel

Whats good curios for psyker

[cinder moon]

cloud radius borked

sorry sibling

[upper sun]

yerr damage and warp resist are the dumpy stats for it

[ornate hamlet]

Surely the high quell burn and dmg make iit ok

Ahhh ok

[upper sun]

damage doesnt effect damage on it

[ornate hamlet]

So cloud burn and quell?

[upper sun]

fatshark moment 😭

yeah

[marble crater]

Switch damage and cloud and it's perfect, keep it in case we can switch stats

[ornate hamlet]

WHAT ORKY BS IS THAT

[upper sun]

yeah

[ornate hamlet]

“Damage dont make damage?!”

[upper sun]

damage mostly effects the love tap it gives on lmb click

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/orc-sadorc-zuug-gif-18395942

[upper sun]

on channel you need 76 burn to do most damage

anything more than 76 is useless

[patent wing]

which mod do you use for true peril

[stiff falcon]

kill less spawn less

[slate oasis]

"damage doesn't effect damage" is such a funny thing to actually be true

[ornate hamlet]

So this is better?

[slate oasis]

such intuitive stat design

[upper sun]

ye

[ornate hamlet]

Bro dont i was listening to koda amd lysander amd he said a similar line bout slamnesh😂

[stiff falcon]

never use it tho

[near bluff]

Genuinly, Yes

Old speedrun strats prior to events needing full party was to use stealth and not kill stuff until things stop spawning

[upper sun]

on flamer and purge damage unironically does not effect damage

[ornate hamlet]

Why?

[stiff falcon]

this exists

[upper sun]

I kneel...

[stiff falcon]

9 mil for both

[ornate hamlet]

Holy throne rhats nutty

So does dmgstat affer surge

Or jusy equinox

[stiff falcon]

ask a psyker main

[marble crater]

Damage is only a dump stat on purgatus

[upper sun]

purge and flamer

[stiff falcon]

knife

[upper sun]

gun

[marble crater]

That's a very nice Trauma

[patent wing]

perilgauge mod doesnt work thats why i ask

[stiff falcon]

having no plasteel hurt for a while

[upper sun]

simply stop crafting

[plucky flax]

Based carapace damage

[patent wing]

i saw you using a nice peril manager - which one is it

[plucky flax]

Hrm I use peril gauge.

[patent wing]

shit crashes the game for me

[ornate hamlet]

The amount of times its come clutch😂

[plucky flax]

Strange. Maybe reset your settings.

Remove true peril. Peril gauge has that built in

[ornate hamlet]

True peril

?

[plucky flax]

It reflects more accurately the peril counter when you quell.

[ornate hamlet]

Nono as in you said remove it? What do i meed to remove?

[plucky flax]

It goes down in chunks rather than a smooth increment

Oh it's a mod. I was referring to madrigal

[ornate hamlet]

Ahhh ok

Im so@pissed now i lnow dmg is dump stat

[mental rock]

Cara on a purge staff? Ew, why

And you intentionally put it on there too

[paper lily]

just use chastise

[hollow current]

Maybe for uncanny interaction?

[upper sun]

if you use uncanny its fine

[paper lily]

you'd put it on your ds4 then though

[upper sun]

but idk id rather have crit or maniac

[mental rock]

But you wouldn't get the +Adm unless you switch back to the staff

Right?

[paper lily]

you can't benefit from both with uncanny

you'd have to put carapace on ds4

[mental rock]

Yeah that's what I thought

[hollow current]

Ah, you can’t switch back to your staff and keep uncanny for the full 3.5?

[paper lily]

nope

[hollow current]

lol rip

[plucky flax]

It's very based.

[mental rock]

Yeah it's very based to buff your cara damage from 5 to 6

[plucky flax]

[paper lily]

he could be using staff special attack... cmon bro...

[patent wing]

scab melee modifier is where ep BB shines (purge catachan sword loadout)

[cold oasis]

Did they break the defiance of destiny talent?

The one that makes it last 15seconds

[upper sun]

the buff icon is just visually broken

sometimes it shows up sometimes no

[cold oasis]

I'm not sure that's the case

I kept getting the stacks, but they were lasting 4 seconds

[upper sun]

yeah idk i dont use DD much

[paper lily]

nah that's the movespeed buff

[cold oasis]

That's the DD it's the big ol' Hand

[paper lily]

if you use the buff mod you can specifically pull dd stack out on a separate bar

[cold oasis]

i know which one it is xd

[paper lily]

just a ui bug as far as i can tell, unfortunate dd kinda sucks with surge or i'd use it

[cold oasis]

Before patch it was working perfectly

I'll check in another game to be sure

[paper lily]

yeah they did ui updates, dd is working just fine you just can't see the stacks sometimes

[lapis violet]

love you, whoever you are

[vernal temple]

Question to all the mad skills spark'eads out there, who are crushing damnation and auric difficulties: What's the proper tactic on these difficulty levels, seeing as the psyker is faily squishy and vulnerable. Should I stay behind my team and keep my distance from the "front end"?

[patent wing]

keep them at range yes

[lapis violet]

psyker is able to deal by far the highest amounts of reliable damage (we aren't a crucis hamemr zealot)

[patent wing]

map knowledge to know where to kite the enemies

also have good awarness of whats happening around u, turning often.

[upper sun]

pretty much just dont get hit

[patent wing]

knowing that dodges need 1-2 sec to reset (once you used all)

[lapis violet]

heavily depends on what build you're running. some like to stay closer because their weapons don't allow the range some others do (talking about smite, trauma and purgation staves), but all builds need to know where and how to run away

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah im noticing that at auric had help with a build but god damn im squishy

You gotta stay with everyone

[lapis violet]

no better way to put it than "try not to get him and hit big men/big amounts of enemies

[patent wing]

also good thumb of rule is perma dodge slide when using staff or sprinting

[vernal temple]

my setup is the Illisis for close range, Surge staff and Smite with Empowered Psionics for everything else. I try to keep my distance and always quell for fast toughness regen

[lapis violet]

smite EP is weird to me because you get dmg but still rack up the same peril

[patent wing]

smite EP only for bubble

otherwise flame shriek with warp charges

[vernal temple]

don't have bubble, got venting shriek

with the soulblaze thing

[ornate hamlet]

I use bubble with purg staff

[patent wing]

this is my surge smite build

[upper sun]

if only we had one more point 😭

[vernal temple]

here's what I'm using

[patent wing]

drop wildfire and pick up empathic evasion

also drop warp expenditure for mettle

[cold oasis]

God knows if DD is working or not

[upper sun]

is that for purge?

[patent wing]

battle meditation is kinda meh but i with ep smite its kinda ok i guess

smite surge

[upper sun]

ah

[cold oasis]

The charges graphically last 4 seconds, then they disappear if you get a second one. So no idea

[patent wing]

visual error afaik

[upper sun]

i usually go warp siphon with surge

[patent wing]

ive already told him that but he can play whats fun for him :D

to be said is that almost all here play with kinetic deflection to infinitely tank bosses

so in case you have problems with bosses you can consider dropping battle meditation and that +15 toughness node to get it

[marble crater]

That's the buff you get for a kill, then there is also a visual for the stacks, they are two different buffs

[slate oasis]

do you think it's worth sacrificing the last two nodes for warp siphon (vampire and battery) in order to grab warp rider? for a crit voidstrike build

[patent steeple]

btw, I have come up with an idea for a new psyker staff:

A staff that has a charged attack which targets an enemy, and then deals a relatively small amount (compared to every other staff charged attack damage) of damage to the target. However, getting a kill with the staff's charged attack makes the enemy explode, dealing damage to and/or staggering all other enemies near the target.

As I am writing this, I get the feeling this is just Combustion + Surge Staff, but with Combustion built-in (except it works on all targets, and applies damage upfront as opposed to soulblaze stacks) and possibly added stagger...

[marble crater]

What talents did you pick that you don't have room for warp rider?

[patent wing]

make that a blessing for purge

its already a flamer blessing

[patent steeple]

does anyone even use that blessing? idk what blessings people use on flamers these days (although, quickly asking about it in zealot chat should fix that)...

[patent wing]

a 2k hour zealot i know uses blaze away + barrage

[potent echo]

Explode yes

[marble crater]

Maybe just go DD at that point, if you are already that invested on the right side?

[rigid sky]

Yeah, go DD man

Imo shield is a poor partner for warp siphon

DD or EP even, just not warp siphon

But imo voidstrike is the perfect excuse to take DD, it's so easy to maintain now if you take lingering influence

[upper sun]

bruh having a game with two bots rn

like two extra bots

[patent steeple]

tbh, I just want to have a heretic implode from a surge staff attack and splatter blood everywhere, while also killing his buddies.

[patent wing]

did u try surge staff

[slate oasis]

never used DD but I'll try it. do you recommend also taking purloin providence and cruel fortune on the DD side?

[patent steeple]

yes, but its damage is hot garbage, plus it doesn't do the whole "killing something causes it to damage others" thing when the crit damage explosion visual happens...

[marble crater]

If you then also take assail instead of smite it would be even better

[rigid sky]

Abrakahereyougo https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9bf08f57-d288-4254-98a7-ad4fd9eac508

This is my voidstrike build

[patent wing]

perilous combustion

[patent wing]

this is also mine

[rigid sky]

I left the blessings and perks off but you should at least stick Surge on the staff

Melee could be a few choices but you want horde clear on it imo

Your void can dumpster Crushers already

I use Illisi as indicated

[patent steeple]

still not the same as having an enemy explode into a cloud of blood, gore and body parts that also damages his nearby fellows...

idk, maybe I like the term "bloodsplosion" too much, and thus would like to have it be applicable in this game...

[rigid sky]

Looking for more meat puppets for your merry go round?

[patent steeple]

yes. I see you are familiar with Borderlands (borderlands 2's psycho class in particular).

[rigid sky]

NIPPLE SALADS

[patent wing]

surge explodes them with gore

and then it spreads soulblaze

but yeah its not a big explosion

[slate oasis]

I mainly just had smite because it doesn't need the modifiers and I wanted psykinetic aura

[patent steeple]

I actually also like the borderlands 3 psycho mind-exploration DLC, mostly because the part where the psycho's memory counterpart drops a lot of bodies into a grinder and calls it a "tea party" is so gross that I find it epic...

[marble crater]

Fair

[rigid sky]

Assail is surprisingly good for void but smite is takable too

[slate oasis]

interesting. no crit aura for the crit build?

[rigid sky]

Unnecessary tbh, Shriek helps me more

It's a horde deleter

[marble crater]

10% CDR for everyone is also just very nice

[rigid sky]

Yeah, the CDR aura is best in a vacuum

I would take crit aura but I value Shriek more

I do like shield too though, I just don't run it with voidstrike

Since I feel more threatened by melee rushes than by shooters

[patent steeple]

I guess I have to ask this question again, but does the Elite dmg aura reach some BPs?

I guess CDR aura is for people trying to help the team as a whole, while the 2 others are for slightly more selfish builds

[marble crater]

No idea, tbh, you can make the argument of taking that instead of CDR because almost every other psyker is running CDR aura though

[slate oasis]

hmm. I haven't used shriek since they added the skill tree, but I'll try your whole build

it will be hard to go on without my precious bubble...

[rigid sky]

Creeping Flames is actually busted

Always Shriek at 84%+ peril

If you run EP smite it's even sillier

But I would save that for another build

Because psyker doesn't get many build paths that promote DD and DD is just bonkers

[patent steeple]

yeah, especially if you don't wanna run a Purgatus to a dark level, but still wanna see the enemies in front of you (I have done that recently).

[rigid sky]

Columnus infantry autogun being the best thing a space wizard can think of to light up a room lmao

[marble crater]

That's why we have blaze Trauma (please buff)

[rigid sky]

You know how I deal with dark levels?

I don't lmao.

[patent steeple]

the plasteel grind forces me into dark and fog levels sometimes...

[paper lily]

smite on dark levels tbh

[jovial juniper]

Purgatus spam

Make everyone hate their eyes

[marble crater]

Gunker on dark levels, for the light on the columnus

[jovial juniper]

Assail for deadly fireflies

Which I need to test

[upper sun]

vent purge is fun

[jovial juniper]

Might queue later

[upper sun]

power outage also very fun

[jovial juniper]

I don't find vent purge fun, unless snipers are involved

Those are good

[rigid sky]

Brain bursts through the fog <3

I get to be the lovecraftian monstrosity for once :D

[hardy stump]

how does the gun psyker tree look like?

[slate oasis]

btw any specific situations would you recommend using assail in since it's in your build? I used to take assail but switched to smite because I found myself never using it

[plucky flax]

Spam it

[near wyvern]

It's fucking scary when you get an orange and not a red marker

[near wyvern]

Examples are in The Atheneum

[near wyvern]

Eh, assail and void has so much overlap. Picking smite for Void instead covers all the weaknesses for it.

[near wyvern]

Drop Assail for smite, drop empathic evasion, it's not that useful with void. Go through Puppet Master into Solidity instead. That's my two cents. Void is a monster with full DD tree.

[stable silo]

i use void for armored aSSail fir non armor it works well

[swift moss]

sorry, what is DD?

[upper sun]

disturb destiny

keystone on the right

[swift moss]

aaa

[upper sun]

NOOOOO JOHNNY YOU HAD SO MUCH TERRORISM LEFT TO DO

[late sapphire]

disrupt destiny 🤓

[near wyvern]

No, my Destiny is always Disturbed

[radiant frigate]

destiny?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRW4gs4Co-o

[rigid sky]

Assail helps on hordeclear and more efficient shooter clear

For me anyway

If it's a Smite field then I probably wanna be blasting with void anyway

[radiant frigate]

voidstrike is such a nice weapon

you can pair it with anything

[rigid sky]

Tbh I think Void is the most versatile of the ranged choices so the blitz is kinda preferential yeah

[radiant frigate]

void is at worst solid

at best it is dominating

[stable silo]

how about meme firesword build

what does your voidstrike god say to that

[radiant frigate]

voidstrike knows of your transgression, but still forgives you

[stable silo]

fear me it is done

cya guys in auric damnation

[upper sun]

🤓

[late sapphire]

God i love blind guardian if only they could make good music instead of bad music 😢

[upper sun]

destiny 2?

[late sapphire]

no wildfire?

[radiant frigate]

Guh?

[late sapphire]

Guh...

[stable silo]

wildire limits my mighty spread

[rigid sky]

It does the opposite of that surely

[radiant frigate]

not-so-wild fire

[rigid sky]

Isn't like the whole point of fire sword build to spread it via wildfire

[stable silo]

dont question the mighty knowledge of memesword

[radiant frigate]

bloodthirsty blazing spirit illisi

creeping flames

wildfire

[rigid sky]

I wonder if doing it with a 0 damage roll Illisi would be better btw

[upper sun]

memesword is mid

[stable silo]

shred boi with a light spam like a man

[radiant frigate]

blazing spirit on voidstrike too while we're at it

[rigid sky]

Since it might actually apply without the enemies being dead

[stable silo]

il find a warp nexus blaze void yet dont u fret

[radiant frigate]

shred blazing spirit deimos for the boss damage..

[late sapphire]

I don't really like Kürschs (new) vocals...

[radiant frigate]

that's unfortunate

[late sapphire]

They were gooder when he was the bassist

[radiant frigate]

but that is your preference

to each their own

[stable silo]

dammit what do i give up for wildfire

[late sapphire]

They literally had a band member leave because kürsch started singing lmao

[radiant frigate]

that must have been before my time

(which is entirely possible, they've been making music longer than i have been alive)

[late sapphire]

Three decades ago.......

I think he left in like 2004 though so i guess it was fine for a bit

They've been going into more and more progressive sound over the years though

There's a reason their most popular song is almost two decades old now

[stable silo]

i found an answer to the boss question, il use this to kill bosses and nothing else

[radiant frigate]

i also enjoy their more recent works

[late sapphire]

I'm just remiscing, don't take it to heart

[radiant frigate]

i am not

what you said is entirely fair

[hardy stump]

I see many gun psyker builds but what is really the key talents making it work?

[prime elk]

SG and DD

and warp rider of course, but that’s a given

[hardy stump]

no soulblaze right?

[stable silo]

waht guns do people like with gunker? is it still assault pistol ? or is it the column V or las pistol

[prime elk]

Up to you imo. It’s not that hard to build in if you want it

[prime elk]

Basically any good gun works with it

So yeah colum is very popular

But survivalist nerf definitely hurts gunker

[upper sun]

just assume the vet on your team is a zealot

[prime elk]

Or if you do get a vet, they’re running movement aura now instead

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[prime elk]

I’m guilty of that too, tbf

[stable silo]

wahts a nice voidstrike build to run these days

[upper sun]

DD is great with void

[stable silo]

do u generally run BB or smite with DD ?

[prime elk]

Prob smite

[upper sun]

smite id say or maybe even assail

[prime elk]

BB is very underwhelming. And if you’re running DD it’s probably because you’re running a strong single target weapon already

[upper sun]

i only really do BB with purge

[prime elk]

Yeah exactly

[stable silo]

oh i was thinkin something like this but swap BB for smite?

[upper sun]

id do this for void DD

[stable silo]

this is my current void what should i aim to try to swap it for ?

[upper sun]

depends on what you want you can either do surge/nexus or nexus/flurry or flurry/transfer

or if you're a psychopath like skudie flurry/surge

[thick tiger]

I decide to play on tier 2 difficulty to get the finish the no teammate death Melk challenge as quick as possible, a level 30 teammate manages to get sent into oblivion by a beast of nurgle and dies, many such cases

[upper sun]

many such cases

[stable silo]

demios or illis to pair with void?

[upper sun]

can be either but i think illisi works best

[stable silo]

anything to swap there ?

[upper sun]

damn nice

[stable silo]

i used to play ALOT i have most weapons at really good stats/modifiers i just havent played in a long time

so trying to feel out whats changed haha

[silent coral]

which is better for empowered pyonics bio lodestone or overpowering souls?

[fresh reef]

lol

[paper lily]

overpowering

[fresh reef]

overpowering 99% of the time

[rigid sky]

So the main thing about gunker is that we have busted crit and weakspot damage

[paper lily]

nah it's 100% of the time since the ep buff for smite

[upper sun]

the guaranteed charge charge on elite kill

[rigid sky]

So you want anything that has great modifiers for that

[upper sun]

idk whats it called

[fresh reef]

you can make an argument for infinite use assail, but other than that it's no

[rigid sky]

The top two options are CIAG and accatran laspistol

Also Zarona but that's a bit funkier

[stable silo]

oh nice i got a really good laspistol kinda

dmg as a dump stat kinda sucks though

[rigid sky]

Laspistol's main advantage is suppression immunity

[upper sun]

whats your talent setup for DD void?

[rigid sky]

CIAG brings more deeps

[rigid sky]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9bf08f57-d288-4254-98a7-ad4fd9eac508

I think this was it

I don't think I clipboarded anything else since I posted it earlier

[upper sun]

🤔 i do smite tbh

[rigid sky]

Yeah, that's the other one I would consider for it

But in any situation where I would like to smite on another build, I'd rather void spam

But I have a high blast radius void so I think I stagger a bit better than the meta low radius ones

[upper sun]

but then again void can hit blue guys just as well as assail

[rigid sky]

Yeah, but assail hits shooters that are spread out better

And it adds to hordeclear

[paper lily]

is there any reason why like 50% of mobs can't be a target for dd

[upper sun]

i mostly use smite because i can get psy aura

[rigid sky]

It hits targets that are moving laterally

[paper lily]

that's the main thing that puts me off it

[rigid sky]

Yeah that's fair

Psy aura is the best part of non assail psyker

But assail with DD is nuts tbh

It's so powerful

[upper sun]

its so fucking stupid you and the whole team get like 10 more ults per mission

[paper lily]

psy aura is overrated imo

[rigid sky]

With 15 stacks of DD on

Trouble is, you don't always fire on cooldown

[upper sun]

NUH UHHHH

you dont?

[rigid sky]

Sometimes you hold a moment for a better situation anyway, etc

It's a great talent don't get me wrong

But it's not a huge loss to miss it

Especially since I'm taking CDR aura anyway

[paper lily]

cdr aura is anti synergistic with psy aura anyway

[upper sun]

yeah but also assail feels weak without ep

[paper lily]

nah assail is insane strong with warp charges, at least

[rigid sky]

DD boosts it almost as much

And it doesn't have a charge limit

[upper sun]

🤔

[paper lily]

wdym charge limit

for ep?

[rigid sky]

EP has 3 charges so you can lose it once you get onto hitting trash

[paper lily]

oh right

yeah i value consistency above most everything else on my builds

dd i'd have to be able to benefit from all parts of the keystone to even think about

ep is one of those conditional keystones that's only good on very specific builds

[rigid sky]

That's how my voidstrike build is set up tbh

Illisi, Voidstrike (surge/nexus) and Assail

All 3 of those benefit hugely

[paper lily]

with dd?

[rigid sky]

Yep

[paper lily]

yeah i mean that's the only type of build i would consider it for

[rigid sky]

And since the recent patch, you get full uptime of 15 stacks

[paper lily]

gunker too ig but gunker is just an inferior staff psyker

[rigid sky]

Same, voidstrike or guns only

Nah, gunker is great man

Very different role though

Think closer to glass berserker

[paper lily]

i've used it quite a bit but i just don't see the point in guzzling ammo when i can do the job equal to or better than with a staf

f

[rigid sky]

Don't guzzle ammo

Melee and assail man

You have to use all 3 weapons in harmony

[paper lily]

trust me i do, i kill a ton of shit

but it's an extra ammo drain source no matter how you look at it

[rigid sky]

But gunker dumpsters bosses

It is

[near drift]

wrong only do autopistol gunker and spray down hordes your teammates will love you

[paper lily]

that's the one thing it gets over everything else

[rigid sky]

Infinite ammo staff is a strength

[paper lily]

monstrosity dmg

[rigid sky]

I pick gun if my team looks like it's got ammo economy covered

And tbh I pick what I feel like playing at whatever moment lol

[paper lily]

yeah i am team agnostic player too

i just play what i want

i've never seen a gun psyker come close to my numbers and it gets ugly when ammo starts getting scarce

it is nice to watch em shred a chaos spawn tho

[rigid sky]

It's easy to lean on the gun too much on gunker

Bear in mind that gunker's probably the hardest psyker main build too though

A lot of people just don't have the build or the skill to make it work

[paper lily]

i genuinely just don't think it's as effective as other builds, difficult or not

[rigid sky]

I fuck it up a lot

But any time I die I know I could have outplayed it

[paper lily]

true of any build

[rigid sky]

Purgatus.

[plucky flax]

Guess who died then alt f4 before fully dead to preserve his shitty penance.

[rigid sky]

Perfectly solid but has some situations where it really needs support

[paper lily]

@plucky flax u ever see ppl panic when they press tab in elevator and realize they're not top dmg and start rushing and taking stupid angles

[plucky flax]

Idk I don't care damage.

[paper lily]

it's like every other game for me

me neither

i just wanna win

[plucky flax]

If people play fast then I follow them.

But I prefer just going through a map at normal pace and find some good plasteels.

[paper lily]

nah i mean they're playing in a way to actively detriment themselves or the team to do more deeps

[plucky flax]

Playing a round for 200 plasteels

[paper lily]

legit whats wrong with them

[plucky flax]

Yeah I can tell when people are doing it.

If they don't die though then fair enough.

Good players.

[paper lily]

they will still lose the dmg war.

[upper sun]

is it u?

[plucky flax]

Yes.

All 3 died, 2 left 1 went fully deaad.

Based fully dead no quitter player.

[paper lily]

truth

[plucky flax]

Clutching was ez I was playing surge.

[paper lily]

yea i mean surge is just god staff

https://i.imgur.com/ElzGk6F.png

every game looks like this when i'm not afk smiting

[plucky flax]

I had more warpfire damage then the purgatus guy. I also didn't spam f just to get the first stacks. I only do it at 84+.

[paper lily]

no one wanna pick up plasteel

yeah see

same with u

why are u the one picking up fucking plasteel

[plucky flax]

Longer range from surge, so I get the elite kill first, then combustion give soulblaze stacks.

[paper lily]

i mean purg is just weak regardless

[near drift]

I see people semi often open a crate, see the plasteel, ping it, then run away like Jesus I'm gonna have an aneurysm

[paper lily]

it straight up loses to smite

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's the weakest imo but it's the most chill to play.

Also I play the funny basket build.

[paper lily]

what, the whole top of the tree? lol

[supple dock]

Sometimes the sheer utility of the push is very much worth using

[plucky flax]

With purga for maximum braindead.

[paper lily]

quell cancel lmb purg is the only way to play it

[plucky flax]

Yeah of course if I have to ress or stagger gunners.

[supple dock]

o7

[plucky flax]

But I don't use it to 'get more damage chasing'.

[upper sun]

imagine naming your little guy after a traitor

[rigid sky]

Purgatus is a fun change of pace imo

[paper lily]

u know i didn't even know the lore when i made this char

[rigid sky]

It's still solod

[paper lily]

rip

[rigid sky]

Great for newbies

[near drift]

purg mains just wanna grill

[upper sun]

pay the 50k tax

[paper lily]

[plucky flax]

Don't play this build.
🧺

[paper lily]

hahahha

it looks so bad

[upper sun]

veri based

would be even more based if you had walls instead of bubble

[paper lily]

i've seen people unironically run the entire top of the tree

[plucky flax]

It's not bad if you can do this.#psyker-class message

[upper sun]

top tree for psyker is like vet bottom tree

[plucky flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1234983333667012679/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_21.mp4?ex=6632b75b&is=663165db&hm=870b388da2bd9f74bfb5fa55011fd0289b8e7e9cb504e568b2f6d244ce9bb156&

Best build immune to shooters.

Deflector + kd + bubble + toughness regen from peril.

[supple dock]

unhinged psyker cooking

[plucky flax]

[paper lily]

ur missing out

i'd just use double shield wall swap cancel bb recovery and hardcore machine gun them down

[plucky flax]

Yes but that's too much effort.

Me I just put down bubble and slowly bb stuff.

[late yew]

... that's just normal build

[paper lily]

u know it's weird to me a stamina curio makes kd cost less per block

[plucky flax]

You take the whole basket up top?

[late yew]

most of it

[rigid sky]

It's all solid except battle meditation

[plucky flax]

I never take toughness on peril gain.

It brings so little value.

[paper lily]

that's cuz it gets nerfed with peril reduction talents

the more peril reduction u have the worse that talent is

[rigid sky]

Swiss cheese avoidance model innit

[prime elk]

I don’t think it’s that bad. Some builds accrue peril extremely quickly

[rigid sky]

It's low priority but it gives you another way to get back to 100 toughness before the bruiser bonk fucks you up

[paper lily]

100% peril is 25% toughness, reduced by however much peril reduction u have

[late yew]

it is only 1 poiin though

[plucky flax]

Yeah then why not just take mettle/soulstealer? Since you get much more toughness from those.

[paper lily]

mettle is also working for ur melee

[plucky flax]

Rather than the dribble from this thing.

[upper sun]

both of those require you to hit/kill stuff

[rigid sky]

Those are higher priority, must-takes

I do take them always

[prime elk]

Consistency

[prime elk]

And yah

[paper lily]

yea but if ur worried about out of combat regen just take quietude

it leads to pc anyway which is an op as shit point for psyker

[plucky flax]

Yeah most my build only have quietude and mettle.

[rigid sky]

I always do

[upper sun]

warp exp and quiet are 100% passive thats the good thing

[plucky flax]

Mettle for toughness on peril gain. Quitude on quell.

Very chill very nice.

[paper lily]

quietude also doesn't get reduced by peril reduction

[rigid sky]

But sometimes I take replenishment too if I can budget it

It's the least important toughness regeneration node

But I value regen super highly

[paper lily]

i don't really get hit enough to really care about toughness regen

[plucky flax]

Fair. I only take the bare minimum since psyker is range character and I feel very safe compared to melee classes.

[paper lily]

tbh, if there was a way out of the top that just gave more dmg instead of regen i'd probably route that way

[upper sun]

just take perfect timing and ignore the rest

[paper lily]

most my builds just go quietude pc mettle pt and go down

[plucky flax]

Must take combustion, so path through soulstealer or quietude.

I prefer quietude.

[paper lily]

quietude way more consistent

it also lets you regen in kinda uncommon situations like no mobs but standing in fire/gas/whatever

[rigid sky]

Imo, the more defensive talents you take, the ballsier you get to play

[paper lily]

i just play balls out 24/7 anyway

psyker gets incredible cc that can be repeated constantly so the need to have regen is lessened greatly if you're just aware

[rigid sky]

For the last few weeks the only thing that has killed me has been poxbursters

[paper lily]

now that i can hear them pretty consistently i'm rarely getting hit by em

still recommend corruption resist to stop big burst dmg like poxbursters, esp if you get hit by 2 with none i'm fairly sure it's an instakill on psyker

[rigid sky]

It is lmao.

Yeah I should see if 1 corruption resist pushes me over the breakpoint

[hollow current]

there’s no reason for corruption to be split up between grim and non grim lol. Makes it so you don’t want to take either.

[upper sun]

yeah

[paper lily]

grim corruption resist actually has 2 effects iirc, the initial big burst of corruption and then the slow ticking

but regular corruption resist only prevents the ticking dmg

[upper sun]

its just kinda bloated with trash like like perks on weapons

[plucky flax]

Crafting rework will fix it.

Remove exp gain perk too.

[paper lily]

totally bro

[upper sun]

the fuck do i need groaners or mutant damage resist

[plucky flax]

Coming soon next year.

[paper lily]

i swear horde resist would be fucking op

[hollow current]

That was actually useful when you could level someone up 1 to 30 in a game.

[paper lily]

as it stands i just stack main blessing as a minor perk + toughness recovery then whatever i want

[upper sun]

so tru sibling so tru the crafting rework will come well get blazing 4 for trauma barrage is gonna get removed from the game and well all have a marry christmas

[paper lily]

it also sucks the dmg reduction perks are multiplicitive

if u stack 3 of the same the 3rd one is like 60% as effective

[hollow current]

Right after fat shark gets back from vacation

[upper sun]

just get 1 flamer 1 bomber 1 gunner in case you get kicked by all three at the same time

[paper lily]

shit ur right those boots hurt

[upper sun]

i actually lost a game because of one gunner kick

[paper lily]

it's kinda funny being dead and watching some dude get executed by a sniper kick

[upper sun]

i was kiting a mix of crushers bulwarks and maniacs to rescue my team i made it there

and one fucking gunner kicked me out of the revive

[paper lily]

rip

[stable silo]

warp siphon for surge build?

[plucky flax]

[paper lily]

its good

[stable silo]

this my baby should i change flak to crit?

[paper lily]

nope

u have good stick

[stable silo]

this look okay for surge build ?

[plucky flax]

Decent. I'd drop ee though it doesn't have the fire rate of assail or purga.

[stable silo]

Maybe take kinetic def instead ?

[plucky flax]

Yeah or 15 toughness up to you.

Personally I always take kd for safety when clutching.

[strong gulch]

I always take KD too.

[stable silo]

Il drop EE and take KD

[marble crater]

Me too for when I mess up

[strong gulch]

From burster talk before, that's why I have at least 1 health curio. Makes getting hit with even 2 survivable.

Granted, that's JUST bursters.

[marble crater]

Just don't get hit

[strong gulch]

but I'm bad 🥺

[plucky flax]

I like to come up to burster for a hug.

Then I fly off the map.

Veri fun

[strong gulch]

Let's go!!

[marble crater]

Fun when your dodges didn't reset and you get blasted away

[marble crater]

That looks very cursed

[plucky flax]

Bruh what is that so scary

[ornate hamlet]

poxbursters are really fun when using skriers and a forcesword, always at max peril

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

I went far

Lots of Burster heads together is terrifying. 💯

[marble crater]

Weeee

[strong gulch]

I'm not mature enough. 💩

[thorn cedar]

gotta stay regular

[ornate hamlet]

none of us are

💩

[strong gulch]

Yeah.... cursed af

When it moves, it's worse.

[ornate hamlet]

kinda more terrifying than a demon host

imagine waking that thing up

[marble crater]

Poke it with a dueling sword

[ornate hamlet]

last thing you will ever do

[strong gulch]

I bashed um with staff poke until they threw me out of the area and my game crahed.

[stable silo]

illis or deimos for surge staff pairing?

[marble crater]

Illisi

[ornate hamlet]

illisi is the standard, deimos if your bored and want interesting melee

illisi is better though

for that

[strong gulch]

Illisi better covers surge staff's weakness. If you are confident at dealing with hordes or groups, then feel free to use deimos.

Illisi is better at hordes
Deimos is better at single target with the heavy 2 (H2)

[ornate hamlet]

yeah what potato said

if you feel real brave and burnt out go the obscuris

[marble crater]

Or if you feel experimental, like me, try dueling sword 2

[ornate hamlet]

i like the ds2 when i used it

then i tried ds4 and was disgusted

[late night]

What’s best perks and blessing for surge

[ornate hamlet]

skriers is best for anything if your brave enough

[strong gulch]

DS2 is fine. The H1 really should match the DPS of the DS4 H1. It's the same fecking animation.

PLUS, notes said (a long time ago) that the damage disparity was supposed to be evened out but it never happened.

[marble crater]

Flak + crit chance/elites/maniac, Flurry and Nexus

[strong gulch]

perks are flak + your preferred break point (elites, maniac, crit change, what you hate most)

Blessings are nexus + flurry

[marble crater]

Fatshark
Only reason I use the DS2 is for mobility on surge build while having reasonable horde clear, so far I only had one game with it, but horde clear was good

Whenever I switch from Trauma to Surge I felt super slow with the Illisi

[strong gulch]

I like the DS2 quite a bit. That's part of the reason I get worked up about the H1 disparity.

Illisi is slow 😭

If the knife wasn't so hand intensive, I'd use that most of the time.

[marble crater]

If it had good heavies while also good horde clear it would be great, for elites and muties I still plan to use surge, unless the mutie is right next to me I guess

The H2 is just awkward though

[strong gulch]

Right. Even if the H1s were the same damage, the DS4 would still have superior single target damage.

[marble crater]

How is that H2 even a natural hand movement, looks like it almost breaks our wrist

[lapis violet]

on which weapon?

ds2?

[strong gulch]

yup

[lapis violet]

definitely a weird attack due to the extremely long windup

but not at all physically impossible

[late night]

Is surge a single target close range weapon

Like what is it’s niche compared to void strike or trauma

[prime elk]

Its niche is not requiring aiming

[upper sun]

surge is great

[prime elk]

Void is stronger overall but surge has some very light cc and allows for faster response times

[upper sun]

way more finger hurty than void

shit im tired

[prime elk]

It also synergies very well with shriek

[paper lily]

i think it's preference between void and surge personally

void is a really slow staff requires u to anchor in a position

obviously stronger in hallways

[upper sun]

ye gotta use the cleave well

[late night]

Surge is single target?

[paper lily]

yea

[late night]

I see

[upper sun]

single target + 25% damage to secondary

[marble crater]

1,5 targets

[upper sun]

tho i had a shitfit about this a while ago

the scondary target is capped at like 270

it does 25% when its a non crit

but no matter how much damage you do on primary it wont go over 270

[prime elk]

Surge could use some help, though I like it

[upper galleon]

It does

[upper sun]

like increase the secondary target to 30% of totall damage regardless of crit or no thats all i ask for

[upper galleon]

Only thing it has over void is the fast charge speed

[upper sun]

killing two poxwalkers would be nice 😭

[plucky flax]

Buff surge meme?

Blaze trauma too of course.

[upper galleon]

Surge should turn maulers and crushers into tesla coils

[upper sun]

just increase the secondary target damage thats all i want 😭

[prime elk]

lol that’d be sick

[strong gulch]

It is single target damage on the secondary, quick, and has forgiving up to around 24m. It's jumping CC helps it be really good at managing scattered shooters.

[marble crater]

Maybe combine Trauma and Surge into one staff

[thorn cedar]

Turge staff

[near drift]

Durge staff that whispers of endless and senseless carnage (actually just khorne)

[upper galleon]

Wouldnt durge staff be nurgle

[thorn cedar]

no thats nurge staff

[strong gulch]

Durge staff should have friendly fire and be able to steal barrels.

[upper sun]

shooting a barrel teleports directly to a teammates line of fire

[patent wing]

hear me: teleport staff which leaves a fire trail

[tawny pebble]

So, one of Sienna's abilities but as a staff?

[patent wing]

otherwise id still be fine with the witch stick that sprays gas

[tawny pebble]

Interesting.

[patent wing]

and allows me to fly obv

[tawny pebble]

only as long as you do an "eeee hee heee" cackle

[patent wing]

its an ability in vt2?

[tawny pebble]

it's mandatory for witches

Fire Walk for Battle Wizard, yeah

[warm flint]

surge best staff

[orchid shadow]

That would be interesting. Especially for movement tech, but also great for flinging myself off ledges where I find the one place where they managed to NOT put a railing.

[tawny pebble]

speaking of Surge

I finally tried Disrupt Destiny yesterday and actually really like it

I presume the RMB on Surge will not proc this?

for the purposes of the last node, that is

[supple dock]

surge allows you to make really really aggressive plays because yo udon't have to worry about aiming and even a slight charge will cc most things it touches

It's easier for surge to push a position than void

But void is just rawwww damage

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

Surge staff RMB can't headshot. DD doesn't benefit surge unless you LMB spam.

[plucky flax]

@patent wing can't play tonight my internet is doing weird stuff. I played a couple rounds and I was lagging and desyncing hard.

[supple dock]

SIBLINGS

I am like 75% through with my surge cancelling quest

[ionic sorrel]

Surge cancelling quest?

[supple dock]

My progress at being able to pull a really difficult tech

[ornate hamlet]

i hope right as you get good it gets patched out

[supple dock]

That did occur to me

[strong gulch]

Animation cancel the RMB on surge for super fast casting by swapping to your blitz and back to your staff.

[willow hazel]

I use Q + R to cancel

[supple dock]

q2 for me

[ornate hamlet]

i dont even bother for me

[willow hazel]

q -> q is slower than the other options

[strong gulch]

It used to be you could just step forward to animation canel the RMB, then it was swapping to melee, and now it's blitz.

[supple dock]

But yeah, I've more or less formed the muscle memory but I'm still messing it up every so often

I still have to think about it a little

need that shit to be perfect every time

[willow hazel]

It used to also cancel the self destruct animation, which was OP

[supple dock]

lmao wtf

[spice veldt]

i hope you have good and comfortable keybinds for it

[supple dock]

The only thing I changed was my blitz key

I'm used to the hand motion from swapping from staff to melee often

[plucky flax]

Default works fine for me. G and 2.

[willow hazel]

I can only move left while pressing G & 2

[plucky flax]

Index?

I press G with my thumb.

[supple dock]

My hands are only moderately sized so that motion is too uncomfortable for me

[plucky flax]

I have really smol hand.

[supple dock]

I use a smooth rolling motion with my left hand

[willow hazel]

yeah using my thumb for G feels really weird

[strong gulch]

I got baby hands. G too far away

[plucky flax]

[supple dock]

[plucky flax]

I use space with my thumb, and G is only a little bit up.

So it feels natural.

[supple dock]

I feel too naked without thumb on spacebar

[plucky flax]

Hrm I have weapon swap on B and use that with thumb also.

[willow hazel]

my thumb rests on the very bottom edge of the spacebar

[supple dock]

I manually swap

So because I'm not using a macro, I've found it's easier to cancel for full charges

[tawny pebble]

Yeah, I really need to learn how to blitz cancel Surge.

[supple dock]

You need pretty fast hands to do it consistently

[tawny pebble]

Well, Disrupt Destiny Surge is off the table until I practice it enough.

Because much like Brain Burst, the electricity seems to be a "kill me" sign for my allies.

[supple dock]

I'm used to the motion from swapping to dagger to get more movespeed, swapping to staff to quell, and back to knife to slide again

[willow hazel]

But not too fast because if you swap too quickly you need an extra press to get back to the staff

[supple dock]

Yep

Has to be smooth

[orchid shadow]

Way easier to macro it if you have a mouse that supports macro sequences.

[plucky flax]

I press space bar with like the middle area of my thumb. Near the knuckle lol

[willow hazel]

macros are lame

[supple dock]

I just said I'm not gonna use macros for it

[plucky flax]

Macro would make you blow up a lot I would think.

[willow hazel]

the weapon already aims itself, a bit of technical execution makes it interesting

[plucky flax]

If you can't cancel the macro in time.

[supple dock]

Takes away from the accomplishment of doing something difficult. Why even play the game

Just set up a list of macros to play for you

[ruby shadow]

any tips or tricks for the Psyker penances Pick n' Mix and Warp Battery (brain burst penances)

[orchid shadow]

Because I can still find enjoyment without ruining my fingers to do fancy tech.

[supple dock]

no effort for all the benefits is boring lmao

[tawny pebble]

Warp Battery is a lot easier than it used to be, so either Psychic Vampire or Empyrean Empowerment will handily get you there, I think

[supple dock]

DISAGREE

[willow hazel]

For pick n' mix try HI5 on enclavum baros. At the middle event camp where the shotgunners/gunners spawn and you should get it

[supple dock]

Pre-tree you needed to BB to get stacks, just run kinetic flayer and just play the game

But yeah realistically you'll just get warp stacks and move quickly

You can even use BB to target elites specifically to keep stacks

oh and don't ult

[tawny pebble]

Yeah, I found it easier to make a fresh build that I was relatively unfamiliar with

Enough to get my charges but not enough to gather muscle memory as to when I wanted to use my combat ability

[ruby shadow]

okay, thank you both! I

i'll put together and build and crank them out. those two are just stopping me from getting into my other penances at this point

i just dread using BB, ngl. ive never cared for it

[plucky flax]

I can recommend the basket build.

[tawny pebble]

Is it not just a meme? It performs well?

[plucky flax]

It's.. a build.

[tawny pebble]

I know we were laughing about it when you first put the picture up, but I'm intrigued if it really works

[plucky flax]

Well Idk I get top damage and I think(?) I help with my bubble?

[supple dock]

BB is very powerful but very niche

[plucky flax]

But the damage is significant less than a regular surge build. :p

Or regular purga build for that matters.

But.. it's fun to play.

[supple dock]

Find out the scenarios that you think BB would work in, try to experiment

[tawny pebble]

Empowered Psionics plus Kinetic Resonance spoils me in my use of BB

but it's really useful for getting enemies that you just can't see despite technically having line of sight

[plucky flax]

Basket build with purgatus

If you're pro use double walls for more fast bb up time.

[tawny pebble]

I also actually use it (when i have a team that has voice on) as a "here is this enemy please help me kill it" button

[plucky flax]

But I am nooba so I just put down bubble.

[patent wing]

i switched to shriek with purwge

[plucky flax]

Yes it's much better.

[patent wing]

since the update it actually does sth

[plucky flax]

[patent wing]

it feels good to have some cc in shriek

[tawny pebble]

I didn't actually check what the update did

[patent wing]

it knocks enemies down

[supple dock]

As you get more familiar with the game, voice chat becomes less and less necessary

[tawny pebble]

aside from make my game stutter

[upper sun]

does shriek finally stagger bosses?

[tawny pebble]

That was....not the point of what I was saying at all

[patent wing]

not bosses but maulers at least

[tawny pebble]

Most Damnation players actually have the courtesy these days to not kill the BB target

[patent wing]

and only in like 5m

[tawny pebble]

so voice is for saying "hey can you"

[supple dock]

Oooh, you mean THAT

[upper sun]

bruh if an angry dude from the military can stagger bosses with his voice

WHY THE FUCK CANT WE

[patent wing]

they hate spykers

[supple dock]

I thought you meant more like.. "I have teammates that tell me what they need dead"

[plucky flax]

Because vet shout is most op ability in game.

[supple dock]

Okay, my bad dude

[patent wing]

its common knowledge at this point

krak spam shout vet with plasma gun and psword

[tawny pebble]

😦

[supple dock]

I'm fairly certain 85% peril can stagger crushers

Gets stronger with more peril

[patent wing]

yeah but it doesnt knock em down

[supple dock]

Yee

But it can be really helpful in an oh shit scenario so it gets a pass from me

[upper sun]

its ok bsowrds can stagger crushers

[patent wing]

this shit so broken its like playin in easy mode

[plucky flax]

P gun p sword shout.

(Jk I use it too)

[patent wing]

krak spam talents are important too

[upper sun]

b sword c shout v staff

[patent wing]

1 nade can deal like 40k dmg if á school of crushers coming

[upper sun]

not much difference

[plucky flax]

The hell is a b sword?

[patent wing]

bower sword

[upper sun]

blaze sword 🙃

[plucky flax]

[ornate hamlet]

illisi, deimos, and worthless we got name for the swords... we really shortening it to bsword

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[patent wing]

force swords tho

not every force sword is a blaze sword

[upper sun]

we should using so many abbreviations that no one would ever try to ask questions ever again

[patent wing]

actually who tf plays blaze on fsword

xd

[upper sun]

UHHHHH technically force swords are not the same as power swords

[patent wing]

yeah?

[ornate hamlet]

they all are blaze force swords by name

[upper sun]

the full on christian name of illisi is blaze force sword so it fits

[supple dock]

bf sword

[ornate hamlet]

the best friend sword

[upper sun]

omg thats the sword from league rite?

RIGHT?

[spice veldt]

they're all blaze force swords

too bad that they don't have any fire effects by default though

[thorn cedar]

the blaze part is cause u gotta be 4/20'd to play em

[spice veldt]

go away

[thorn cedar]

wait please, i gotta know

are u holdin

[upper sun]

ok this is getting weird you two should start coming over here at least 5 minutes apart so people dont know you're hooking up

[thorn cedar]

we're not hooking up he's just my plug

its purely business

[upper sun]

totally 😉

[spice veldt]

don't worry exploits is just a drug addict

[thorn cedar]

addicted to u

[spice veldt]

should've stayed on meth

[ornate hamlet]

[patent wing]

btw true peril is a game changer

[austere tide]

really not much of a psyker player, anyone know the best way to get the "kill 250 specialists or elites using abilities empowered by empowered psionics" penance?

just play with brainburst?

[paper lily]

i'd use ep smite cuz i'm lazy

[patent wing]

assail with ep

[ornate hamlet]

brain burst is what i did

[patent wing]

fastest

[austere tide]

each knife uses a single stack, assail really just doesn't seem to be doing enough damage for me

probably not playing with it right

[patent wing]

it gives you a free stack if u kill a specialist

[paper lily]

just play kinda forward and look for like gunner or shotgunner packs

[patent wing]

it literally obliterates mixed hordes

[upper galleon]

Assail is fire and forget for trash

[ornate hamlet]

when you aim it the dmg is much better

[paper lily]

the passive spawn ones

[upper galleon]

Or aiming it with right click

[ornate hamlet]

just use bb

much simpler

[austere tide]

right, i'll just right click shotgunner packs and hope for the best then, thanks

[upper galleon]

For single target, but the single target is only good for specialists and some elites

[patent wing]

40+ np the more specs or elites (assuming no carapace) the better for assail ep

the best route is lmb lmb rmb

[ornate hamlet]

i like assail for the rager begone capability

[patent wing]

but tbh i just spam left click and occasionally snipe with rmb

[ornate hamlet]

now that i can dodge them idk

[long wharf]

Only elites guarantee an EP stack, and that's only with the upgrade node for EP

Take EP+Assail into a pox hound mission

[patent wing]

yeah i confuse em sometimes

[long wharf]

Each pox pup is a specialist

[supple dock]

should I get true peril

[austere tide]

right, time to go murder a bunch of dogs, thanks

[long wharf]

Each assail shard can kill multiple

[supple dock]

What does it do besides show percentages?

Or is that just it

And why is it useful

[patent wing]

It shows 50% peril after shriek cast instantly

[upper galleon]

I dont think true peril is needed

But it is nice

And more readable

[patent wing]

you will cast much more because 1sec of quelling is much more

full blown hack

[supple dock]

Hmm

[marble crater]

The emperor provides

[spice veldt]

by default, the game applies some visual interpolation to the peril% number that you see on screen

the mod removes that interpolation

[patent wing]

i cant fit an illisi in a build tbh thats a pity

my void assail needs knife to bully monstrosities

gunker needs deimos for bulwarks

[plucky flax]

Illisi surge smite let's go

[supple dock]

Oooh

So like when I try to cast at like 92% with a surge staff it's higher than it shows?

[patent wing]

no boss dmg :/

[plucky flax]

Spam surge!!!

[supple dock]

Surge does VERY respectable boss damage

[patent wing]

naaah

[upper galleon]

respectable, maybe

[patent wing]

only vs bon

[upper galleon]

But nah

[plucky flax]

Full charge surge is very decent.

[upper galleon]

It is decent

Not even good

[stable silo]

gunner resist toughness CDR curios ?

[upper galleon]

Just mid

[spice veldt]

mildly i believe
i forgor if the interpolation applies when your peril is increasing

[supple dock]

I usually come in second place in terms of damage to bosses

[spice veldt]

but there is definitely interpolation when quelling

[supple dock]

Hmm

Okay, that clears things up. Thanks

[upper galleon]

If you are smite surge and you can’t melee the boss reliably, it is your best option

[spice veldt]

since you quell in discrete amounts each tick, with a tick occurring every 250ms

[upper galleon]

That says a lot more about your teammates

[long wharf]

Last night, I played with a console psyker that only spammed their void staff primary

[upper galleon]

Void has the stagger and BR has the damage

[supple dock]

Even with good players! The lowest I've been is third if I actually go for the boss insteada of cover for elites/specials

[upper galleon]

Lol, lmao

[plucky flax]

I always get top monster damage with surge. Including this gem
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1234973013133361252/image.png?ex=6633567f&is=663204ff&hm=8d8235f0ee9aca4a980ef20664bf683ca24a08fd8ee1704e84a10524b71bd13d&

[supple dock]

Surge does fine vs bosses

[patent wing]

every build needs mk6 knife, brain burst, purge staff or columnus to have sth good vs bosses

[long wharf]

Easily the worst psyker player I have ever witnessed

[supple dock]

you've yet to witness me in all my glory

[long wharf]

Very true.

[upper galleon]

I main surge smite

[supple dock]

Dude one time I was in hab drako doing on e of the upstairs scans. There was a spawn point in a hole in the ceiling and I was just kinda meleeing it brainlessly. Then 2 jackets drop down and instadown me.

[upper galleon]

It’s just consistent and easy

[mental grail]

[upper galleon]

But tbh if i could, dueling sword weakspots would get me more

[long wharf]

Pox pups are basically the best mission modifier for penances right now

Vets tag them, ogryns taunt them, psykers kill them

[plucky flax]

[supple dock]

bruisers are the real boss, I will die on that hill

[mental grail]

the guys w/ hammers?

[supple dock]

bruisers are the ones that are slightly armored

Like bucketheads or jackets

[upper galleon]

Bruisers are easy if you just respect them tbh

[supple dock]

Yeah but sometimes they'll sneak up on you

[upper galleon]

Then just block

[supple dock]

Like of course I respect them they're terrifying

[upper galleon]

It works 360

[supple dock]

I know

But you can't always be perfect

[upper galleon]

I think my least favorite enemy rn

[spice veldt]

bruiser jumpscare when three of them sync up their attack and you happen to not be dodging at that moment of time

[upper galleon]

Hard to say,

[supple dock]

TRUE

[upper sun]

ayoo finally got surge?

[supple dock]

So I have 3 +3 stam curios right?

Daemonhost dealt 4% damage per swing to me

peril gain*

[mental grail]

Oh, food

CIAG mulches those guys honestly

[supple dock]

I believe you

But yeah I think most of my downs besides exploding have been to bruisers

They will just fuckin ruin you

[supple dock]

And it's not like I'm new to the game or anything. I play AM regularly

[shy willow]

woo, that was an easy penance, crit with precience

whats the best way of keeping disrupt destiny stacks