#psyker-class

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paper lily
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it was always gonna be scuffed no matter what i did

plucky flax
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Aayy tru

supple dock
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But yeah, doing it like this would probably distract me too much lmao

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But now I know it's an option

paper lily
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u can quell cancel the weapon swap timer

plucky flax
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I'd still have the buffs and dodges centred though.

upper sun
paper lily
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which ppl don't do either

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looks like lag to me

upper sun
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๐Ÿค”

patent steeple
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btw, I feel like I could get both Endurance (20% TDR during Gaze) and a +15 toughness node on my gunker if I took off faster assail regen.

the real question is should I do it?

compact cargo
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I've seen worse in vt2

supple dock
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assail augments are goated if you're actively using it

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And tbh? Don't get hit

plucky flax
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My hud some people say it's scuffed some say it's great.

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I think it's kinda gud. whatthefuck_heresy

supple dock
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Psyker is a class that exemplifies that idea

compact cargo
supple dock
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A certain someone has poisoned me and my curios

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I now run all stamina KEKW

paper lily
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unless ur perma blocking idk why you'd run stamina on psyker

supple dock
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zoomies and knife push attack abuse

lethal lagoon
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๐ŸŒ

ornate hamlet
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gotta go fast

upper sun
paper lily
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yeah but u can move at sprint speed constantly with rapier heavies

upper sun
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idk

plucky flax
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Knife on zealot is the ultimate class fantasy fulfillment. Mach speed ultra instinct speedleft peepoFatRun speedright

patent steeple
lethal lagoon
upper sun
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it only happens with surge

paper lily
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im pretty sure you can keep knife heavies going while regaining stamina too

supple dock
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I wouldn't recommend it, but you also have to find out how you want to play

lethal lagoon
supple dock
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also push attacks

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and really, really, really stupid revives

plucky flax
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Tank crusher overhead. whatthefuck_heresy

paper lily
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eh 1 stamina curio and kd lets you do basically anything you want in that department

supple dock
paper lily
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can tank it with a devilclaw

plucky flax
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I tank it with my triple hp curios. staregryn

supple dock
patent steeple
supple dock
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I'm not trying to talk down to your or anything

patent steeple
ornate hamlet
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try to block more, with one talent your blocks are some if not the best in the game

supple dock
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Are you going into the thick of the horde as opposed to positioning to where you won't get back hit?

ornate hamlet
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push to

supple dock
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Shoving will prevent the need to block

paper lily
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anything to reset enemy melee timer

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shriek push w/e

supple dock
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Yee, also try to fight along the edges of the horde rather than the center

patent steeple
supple dock
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And if you find yourself surrounded, hold block, back dodge a few times, then continue to fight

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Psyker melee is hard

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But if you can get the hang of it, you can melee on any other class

ornate hamlet
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its alo fun

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and when you get it down the purg staff becomes amazing

supple dock
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What I can suggest is you try to use melee for most of a lower difficulty run, and make notes about when you get hit and what happened

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Or you can do it more naturally but this is a more direct "why am I fucking up" kinda deal

ornate hamlet
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also got to get better at listening for that sound that plays as your about to get hit

lethal lagoon
marble crater
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Play zealot to learn melee chadgryn

ornate hamlet
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basically turning psyker into grail knight

paper lily
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nah zealot has so many forgiving mechanics for melee

half iron
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play veteran to learn melee

lethal lagoon
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The only thing Zealot is good for learning is trapper dodges.

ornate hamlet
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does zealot have the diemos force sword

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didnt thing so

paper lily
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ur tryin to frag hordes with a deimos?

lethal lagoon
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As much as I love DS being psyker exclusive, it's really a crime zealot doesn't have one.

ornate hamlet
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trying?

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ive been doing that

marble crater
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Give zealot the dueling swords, you cowards

supple dock
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Just... not its sole purpose

ornate hamlet
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diemos is wildly mis understood, its a pretty good alround weapon

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also it completely invalidates the obscuris... obscuris might have more stagger but it needs help

supple dock
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it was invalidated even when it was the only force sword option KEKW

ornate hamlet
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true

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though when i started playing psyker i exclusivly used the obscuris and my biggest complaint was the second heavy need more cleave

supple dock
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If anything

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Obscurous should have movment speed

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keep it as is, with mid cleave and mid single target

lethal lagoon
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Give Obscurous infinite dodges and innate deflector

supple dock
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I mean at that point just use DS4 BUT

lethal lagoon
supple dock
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you know. warp swords are pretty good for managing your peril

ornate hamlet
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eh staves are better

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but yeah

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for skriers

supple dock
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well I mean for warp rider

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You're in the middle of melee so you use the special to keep it still

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or the shove

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whichever

ornate hamlet
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the special turns my okay piece of steel into a piece of crap that holds me still

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the ilissi is the only one that doesnt suffer from that

supple dock
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yee, shove is good for it though

ornate hamlet
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the shoves are amazing

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being able to save a teammate who is about to get crushed is so nice

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but then again so would watching them be crushed

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huh

supple dock
marble crater
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So close

wicked hornet
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is 41% crit bonus bad on a surge staff? always here it's the bad stat on the surge staff

upper sun
rigid sky
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I don't think it's the worst stat tbh

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I wouldn't dump crit bonus

upper sun
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hoard it anyways

rigid sky
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but maybe I don't understand the stats

upper sun
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oh wait

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defences?

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its an mk5 nvm

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nothing of value was wasted

paper lily
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surge stat gets like 4x more crit from a max roll

upper sun
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๐Ÿค” what would a perfect surge look like

paper lily
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imo warp resistance is the dump stat

upper sun
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charge speed has low ratios too

paper lily
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yea u could make an argument for charge speed

upper sun
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maybe 50-50 dump charge and warp res

paper lily
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basically the question is does dumping warp res require u to quell more than 1 tick of peril before charging another rmb

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doesn't seem to be the case for me at least

upper sun
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๐Ÿค” most of my staves have good ish warp resist and i kinda only notice the quell speed when its an issue

paper lily
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that's cuz quell speed can actually go negative

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if you have like sub 55 or 60 quell speed you might as well blitz quell

upper sun
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yeah

rigid sky
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I wonder if Fatshark actually tries weapons with low stats out

upper sun
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so 80s for damage crit and quell with charge rate and warp resi as 50% of whats left

rigid sky
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There's such a wide variation in what low modifiers actually mean

upper sun
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ye

paper lily
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most modifiers are pretty standardized

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quell speed is a ridiculous outlier though

rigid sky
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Trauma blast radius too

paper lily
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for most stats you'll be looking at between a 20-30% difference

rigid sky
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Very sad when low

upper sun
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tbh if you're used to 70% quell it can be harmful getting one with 80%

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you might overquell when you're edging

paper lily
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ig, i only single tick quell

upper sun
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ITS TIME TO FARM SHIELD

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SNIPER VENT PURGE HERE I COME

paper lily
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enjoy i cba with that

upper sun
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same

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hate that shit

wicked hornet
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so would 42% charge rate be bad on a surge?

supple dock
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very imo

paper lily
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charge rate isn't gonna be as impactful as like crit bonus or quell speed

upper sun
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does wall have higher hp than bubble?

paper lily
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but still gonna be noticeable

upper sun
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ye

paper lily
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i think wall has less actually

supple dock
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dump stat should be warp resistance

upper sun
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charge rate range is like 1.1 sec to .94

cold oasis
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Yeah column doesn't work for the scrier gaze, next

marble crater
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DS2 is surprisingly good at horde clear

rigid sky
supple dock
strong gulch
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Ye. It's easier than the DS4 for hordes.

rigid sky
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You get that with your melee and assail mostly

cold oasis
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No i mean, the peril was too much. Got a transfer peril voidstrike, that should be easier

marble crater
strong gulch
plucky flax
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Joined late to a game. Did 800k+ damage in 29 mins with illisi surge smite. If I was there from the mission start probably 1 mil damage. whatthefuck_heresy

supple dock
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damn

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I think 800k has been the highest I've dealt

paper lily
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i only break 1m in losing games

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pain

mighty olive
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I've noticed high damage on people's scoreboards and ya can tell they've had leavers when they're at 1mil and others are at 200k

plucky flax
paper lily
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nah they aren't leaving

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they're just not doing damage OMEGALUL

supple dock
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if they're at 200k then that would make sense

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In a hard game most people get 300-600 each

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Which usually adds up to about 2m damage

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1.5-2m

mighty olive
mellow prairie
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hello siblings

mighty olive
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Heyo

mellow prairie
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hope u r having a great day

supple dock
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I had fun once. I hated it.

ornate hamlet
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i was having a good day until i remembered malleus monstronum exists

plucky flax
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Isn't it only 50% now?

cold oasis
plucky flax
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Should be much easier to do.

mighty olive
mellow prairie
ornate hamlet
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private only

mellow prairie
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or rather, I don't have 3 other friends able to play heresy level missions

mighty olive
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They should be changing the private game penances, no?? I coulda swore I saw something about that

supple dock
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man I did that shit when it was 90%

plucky flax
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Tru I can only play sedition. blobpensive

supple dock
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that was fuckin awful

plucky flax
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Heresy is way too hard.

ornate hamlet
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i did it in a normal game when my entire team was dead

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then i learned it was private only

paper lily
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just join a regular maelstrom monstrous specials

mighty olive
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Same Kusu, I'm actually pissed they made it easier, and the 1mil, and the 500 special maps, etc

paper lily
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er i guess it's priv only

supple dock
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Nah, I'm not pissed about it

mighty olive
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Makes all the damn frames worthless now

paper lily
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either way u can just kill a weakened one

supple dock
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The change was good

mellow prairie
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can we do it then

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anyone want to do a maelstrom monstorous specials

plucky flax
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I was annoyed on the first day. But now idc.

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So many 500k kills frames.

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I can blend in and pretend I'm gud. whatthefuck_heresy

supple dock
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I can blend in and pretend im bad, much easier

plucky flax
mighty olive
marble crater
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Pretend? sure

supple dock
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look you don't know me

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i could be great

supple dock
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I could be fuckin ama- naw i suck

plucky flax
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Goes back to sedtion low intensity

marble crater
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Are there even enemies on low intensity sedition?

supple dock
mighty olive
supple dock
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the rest are having strokes

plucky flax
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You spam your surge staff and press f a lot.

supple dock
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No soulstealer?

plucky flax
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No just don't get hit.

wicked hornet
supple dock
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hmm

plucky flax
supple dock
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I mean if I can cut soulstealer out without much punishment..

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I can get speed. nyaaThink

ornate hamlet
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aww i was hoping for a pic of a grey

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im disapointed

plucky flax
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You can get good toughness from mettle with surge.

supple dock
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You know what?

plucky flax
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You stun most stuff anyway so soulstealer is not needed.

supple dock
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You're right

plucky flax
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And you are often at range.

supple dock
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5% movespeed here I come

plucky flax
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Also you quell so much with surge, quietude provides ample toughness.

supple dock
plucky flax
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Mettle gives toughness on hit, quitude toughness on quell. Between them you are gud.

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I use the exact same build with blaze trauma. 2 very quell intensive staves.

ornate hamlet
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mettle is so good, i cant ever not take it

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i like speed

supple dock
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Hmm

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yeah okay

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Will trade for 5% movespeed

late sapphire
supple dock
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with dagger is great

plucky flax
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Try it and see how it goes.

ornate hamlet
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5% ms

plucky flax
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If you need soulstealer put it back.

supple dock
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yee

plucky flax
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But I think you'll manage fine.

supple dock
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But I shouldn't

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yee

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The other point I took out is the 6 stack of warp charges cause

plucky flax
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I only use soulstealer with assail.

supple dock
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I spam my ult a lot. a lot a lot

plucky flax
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I do too, but I get them back so fast.

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2 extra warp charges give even faster cdr.

supple dock
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every time I look it's at 4 or below

plucky flax
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How? staregryn

supple dock
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IDK MAN

marble crater
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You need to look later

supple dock
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and a 12 second ult timer is fine

ornate hamlet
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man has max ability reduction and is just spamming f

supple dock
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Y E S

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burn EVERYTHING

late sapphire
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I bet you're yelling at low peril % as well

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Cmon man learn to edge properly

marble crater
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I spam it for the voice lines

supple dock
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i get scared im gonna explode past 1%

ornate hamlet
supple dock
marble crater
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Trauma thumbsup_ogryn

supple dock
upper sun
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this is actual hell

ornate hamlet
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trauma is a staff that gives you free on demand grenades

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fun time

late sapphire
supple dock
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yes, I know

marble crater
supple dock
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When I want to raise peril enough I use smite to get it to that point then vent

upper sun
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i even tried to do a sniper purge map

late sapphire
upper sun
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NO FUCKING SNIPERS SPAWNED

ornate hamlet
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the snipers didnt want the heat

upper sun
late sapphire
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Ranged only mael does the trick easily for shield imo

upper sun
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yeah whenever that shit spawns in terminal

late sapphire
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Get the mmt mod

upper sun
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cant use mods ๐Ÿ˜ญ

late sapphire
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Oh you are a poor gamepass user?

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My condolences

mental grail
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Console user???

upper sun
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close enough

plucky flax
mental grail
plucky flax
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Handheld device user.

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Legion Go pogryn

upper sun
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nah samsung smart fridge

plucky flax
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Must be rich.

mellow prairie
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we're in streak team 5 VC if anyone wants to do the malleus monstronum penance with us

late sapphire
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Tbh the penance that pissed me off the most so far is one of the vet aura ones

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kill 7500 enemies under the aura but for some reason it only ticks on elites & specials

plucky flax
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I got psyker and vet done. Working on zealot now it's slow..

late sapphire
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zealot flame nade was annoying too

plucky flax
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So many conditions. Stealth, loner, no cohenrency, backstab, on range units only.

marble crater
late sapphire
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loner & stealth ult i got in a mmt solo match

late sapphire
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Kill the bots and then solo

mental grail
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Zealot penances are actively unhelpful

upper sun
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kills with knives in stealth count for like 3

late sapphire
mental grail
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Psyker penances be like "literally guys kill guys w/ ur team"

upper sun
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also

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ALSO better question is

plucky flax
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I somehow getting more elite/special backstab in stealth than loner aura one.

mental grail
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"literally just use telekine shield"

plucky flax
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Cos I dive range units but they turn to face me.

upper sun
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if you have two zealots with two auras do you get progression for both ๐Ÿค”

late sapphire
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If you pick loner you're either wasting the point or you're far away from your team

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The only reason to ever pick it is the location in the tree

mental grail
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Zealot penance be like "fuck off away from your team and start backstabbing randos."

plucky flax
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I actively pick loner.

supple dock
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psyker's puppet master sabotaging loner KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
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It's my favourite aura.

upper sun
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also you can farm the purity one pretty well by just picking up a grim

late sapphire
late sapphire
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Just grab a wound curio, take a wound and relax

upper sun
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oh damn

plucky flax
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Whatever I'll get the zealot ones done eventually since I actually enjoy playing zealot. I dread the ogryn one though.

upper sun
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"the purity in me fighting the grim im carrying to decide if i turn out a solider of the emperor or nurgle"

supple dock
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i do not have other classes leveled and I refuse to until the crafting system isn't garbage because fuck trying to farm for weapons for all of them

mental grail
late sapphire
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2 beacons of purity let you just stand in tox gas too

marble crater
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Ogryn is fun, you have an excuse to mag dump your stubber KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
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I did auric storm survivor as ogryn though. whatthefuck_heresy

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Just tank it up can't die.

upper sun
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i actually stopped picking up plasteel aside from what i need for weeklies

mental grail
late sapphire
upper sun
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whats the point of picking up plasteel if im just gonna waste it and get mad afterwards?

supple dock
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hoard it

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flex on the poors

upper sun
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if i have too much ill just waste it

late sapphire
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I do just well with slightly suboptimal weapons

mental grail
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Better that vet or zealot

late sapphire
upper sun
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hell yeah

plucky flax
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RIP ammo aura.

mental grail
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๐Ÿ™

upper sun
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field improv vet and 3 nuke ogryn

late sapphire
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They also made it not round up...

upper sun
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no fucking way

late sapphire
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I don't even get 1 ammo per revolver shot back anymore

upper sun
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so revolvers and bolters dont get anything?

late sapphire
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Why even play vet

upper sun
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

plucky flax
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Me think they'll reduce the nerf to ammo aura.

mental grail
late sapphire
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You get ammo every few triggers if i counted correctly

mental grail
plucky flax
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Won't be as strong as before but less pitiful than now.

upper sun
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vets finally getting the psyker treatment

late sapphire
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with my zarona i got roughly one ammo every two ticks

upper sun
mental grail
upper sun
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now ur huffing copium

plucky flax
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Well I'm still waiting for blaze trauma buff after all.

supple dock
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round it up, CD at 2-2.5 seconds would be a good middle ground imo

upper sun
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yeah theyll reduce the survivalist nerf then unnerf momentum then buff trauma

mental grail
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fatshark? updating the game more than once every 6 months?

upper sun
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totally happening 2 more weeks just trust the plan

mental grail
late sapphire
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I should go on darktide forum and put in a bug report about my vet aura turning off and on for no reason

supple dock
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soon โ„ข๏ธ

late sapphire
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Maybe they'll fix it

plucky flax
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Make momentum great again.

harsh urchin
upper sun
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nah it was legit stupid

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braced auto guns had infinite ammo

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but 5sec is a bit much

supple dock
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Agreed, should be a less severe thing

late sapphire
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I'd put three mags into a random horde and go 'hmm i'm kind of low on ammo'

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And then a hound horde would round the corner and i'd be back up to max

upper sun
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man i legit would hold the agri down to suppress shit without even trying to kill stuff

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and i wouldnt go down

rigid sky
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It's still a powerful aura even with the massive nerf

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That's how crazy strong it was before

supple dock
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Good for high ammo weapons, not good for low ammo weapons

upper sun
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well to be fair low ammo weapons usually have higher damage

supple dock
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yeee

upper sun
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and if you go one shot one kill on a revolver thats the same thing as infinite ammo

supple dock
supple dock
upper sun
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so tru so tru thats why i only play surge and trauma

paper lily
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survivalist invalidated by aiming gud

supple dock
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My mouse precision isn't amazing but I can flick like a motherfucker

spice veldt
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though usually the low ammo weapons having low ammo intentionally; e.g., revolver

upper sun
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when its your 999th time on the same map with a surge it feels like you have ulta instinct

plucky flax
strong gulch
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Even when not hitting one shots with revolver + assail, ammo typically isn't an issue. No vet aura and you are the only one taking our specials and most of the ranged elites is the only time it's been an issue.

plucky flax
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Just spray whatthefuck_heresy

strong gulch
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Hasn't happen to often for me tho. I don't usually dip to 0.

supple dock
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I'm an idiot

cosmic sigil
upper sun
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The secret 4th vet keystone

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all grenades

ornate hamlet
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honestly, revolutionary thought... remove suvivalist

upper sun
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ye

supple dock
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ammo economy in the actual matches are fine tbh

cosmic sigil
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Just make it ammo grabbed is ammo shared

supple dock
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maybe full + half?

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Or like

upper sun
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nah if people dont loot they dont eat

supple dock
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full value for the person who picked it up

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Aura to give like 5% of that

upper sun
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its in the bible or something fr fr

cosmic sigil
paper lily
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just make it increase max ammo capacity for the team

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makes ammo pickups more valuable

cosmic sigil
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I'd like that

late sapphire
upper sun
ornate hamlet
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i wish a plaque of poxburster on all survivalist plasma spammers

late sapphire
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i love my mass produced survivalist voc plasma psword vets

ornate hamlet
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all stamped out all from cadia

plucky flax
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P sword p gun shout. staregryn

paper lily
plucky flax
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Most original guardman build. whatthefuck_heresy

upper sun
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i refuse to build pguns because i know they will be nerfed too

ornate hamlet
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when they see a single poxwalker whatthefuck_heresy

cosmic sigil
cerulean summit
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Thank you SO MUCH. After multiple missions where I was ticking up maybe 20-30, I racked up over 80 this last mission.

mellow prairie
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bro this sucks

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this is 35k ordo dockets and looks nearly identical. And you don't have to use real money to buy it

upper sun
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yer

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same happened with the illisi skin

mellow prairie
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I actually like the autopistol though. I wish we had more skins in general.
I like the illisi too, but I wasn't around to see the illisi skin so this is the first i'm seeing of this

rich spindle
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The rotating shop is really lamr

round gull
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skins kinda suck

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weapon skins

rich spindle
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Like the idea is you condition people to continually check the shop for new stuff every time they log on

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But the selection is so small I never find anything I want

mellow prairie
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it's so stupid

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i'm so tired of looking ugly I might install that drip mod

round gull
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Go to contracts shop

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You will get better weapons

rich spindle
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We mean the irl money skins

round gull
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oh well they all suck

mellow prairie
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Yes that is the current sentiment

round gull
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Is not worth it at all

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Maybe 1 or 2 are really worth to buy

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Not more

mellow prairie
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IDK where to even preview the skins to see which one Im interested in

round gull
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They could put epic armours but they don't ;_;

supple dock
upper sun
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they really cant

supple dock
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Force sword had a cool skin

mellow prairie
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thats cool

upper sun
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most of the trash skins have to fit together

round gull
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ye that's cool

upper sun
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they cant make something unique

upper sun
marble crater
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Friendship with force swords has ended, now dueling swords are my new best friends

rich spindle
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The doctor removed my forceskin

upper sun
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WTF PUT IT BACK

rich spindle
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Im knife mode too

round gull
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Force and flaming swords are really cool

marble crater
#

Hadron bricked 6 knives, so I upgraded my purple DS2 and use that, Flak/Unarmored, Uncanny and Rampage KEKW_ogryn

mellow prairie
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im team four score

rich spindle
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I think its objectively the best melee in the game

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If you had to pick one

round gull
#

the knife?

rich spindle
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Yeah

marble crater
upper sun
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i bet you play revolver declaw on vet too

round gull
rich spindle
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I dont play vet cus its boring...

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No class identity

upper sun
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I BET YOU PLAY REVOLVER DECLAW on zealot

rich spindle
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Ur just a guy

round gull
#

quite

upper sun
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im just ken

rich spindle
#

I HATE DCLAW

upper sun
#

you love declaw

round gull
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Why being just a guy with a weapon if you can be a psyker that hears the voice of his beloved

upper sun
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why be a dude with a shovel when you can be a crack head who can go invisible simply by praying hard enough

round gull
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even his voice lines aren't the best

upper sun
#

loose cannon is alright

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but idk i feel like vets dont yap enough

marble crater
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Male Cadian shouts though

round gull
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nothing compares to Seer psyker

upper sun
#

even female beloved has LINES with fanatic

round gull
#

ye KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
#

FEMALE BELOVED arguably the worst choice

round gull
#

ye

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Male beloved is so good

upper sun
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man same for the rest

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i think they wanted something different but whoever voice acted that did such a good job i never wanna hear it

marble crater
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Give me male seer and female loner in every group

round gull
#

YEAH PLEASE

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Best combo

upper sun
#

SIMPLETONS SAVE ME

round gull
round gull
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He's right,so right

upper sun
#

relevant loner interaction

round gull
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But seer is like so kind

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And...crazy

radiant frigate
#

oops! all tubes!

jovial juniper
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Oops toilet bowl

rich spindle
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Some guy had an all white facemask that was cool

supple dock
#

pinned messages

near bobcat
#

Alright fellow psykers, what do you all use for a scrier's gaze build

strong gulch
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Usually guns.

marble crater
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Columnus IAG, Assail, Dueling Sword 4 and Disrupt Destiny

rich spindle
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Lasgun

strong gulch
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Can do staves if you manage your peril really well or pair battle mediation. You can do a melee focused build too.

near bobcat
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got me columnus

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time to pew

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guys i ran out of ammo

marble crater
proud mantle
#

i mean i have to buy this from melk out of principle right

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lord let me use items across classes ๐Ÿ™

marble crater
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Maybe in the future KEKW_ogryn

jovial juniper
near bobcat
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Yeah i don't think i like running scriers lol

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i think its time to stop playing psyker for a while, im tired of being painfully frail

jovial juniper
marble crater
near bobcat
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nah, i wanna try and learn how to knife zealot next

marble crater
near bobcat
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moment i try knife zealot lol

jovial juniper
#

Good, field tutors

near bobcat
#

hell nah we lost that fast

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lol forget this im going to go play something else

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used to do auric damnation cozy and now it's like im a newbie at the game lol

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so infuriating when i can't trust any builds on gameslantern

half iron
#

the staff you pick decides the spells you cast

near bobcat
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yes im aware, i have a solid trauma, voidstrike, and electric staff.

also have a purgatus i guess but my lord that thing is frustrating to work with

half iron
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my staff is the stub

supple dock
near bobcat
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yeah i lost another match, im just gonna go chill in destiny Sitgryn

strong gulch
#

Are the 75 stam curios still bugged?

supple dock
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Wait that was a thing?

strong gulch
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It used to, or maybe still is, be bugged. You would get the +3 stam in the meat grinder but not in a mission.

lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
supple dock
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still bugged

harsh urchin
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Generally you can ask here

strong gulch
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Yup. Still bugged.

Left is in the meat grinder and right is in a mission with a "+3" stam curio with a base 75 rating.

harsh urchin
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And people will give you decent builds

harsh urchin
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Or you can ask me ๐Ÿคญ

lethal lagoon
harsh urchin
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But i only make good builds

lethal lagoon
harsh urchin
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So cant make u a knife zealot sorry

supple dock
dusk void
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I want someone to critique my talent tree. So far, it has somewhat not worked out

supple dock
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okay but if it's bad i'll post a question mark

harsh urchin
#

?

supple dock
dusk void
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let me load my game

harsh urchin
#

first of all

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which weapons are you using

dusk void
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Trauma and a chainsword

harsh urchin
#

so trauma is pretty tricky

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because you need a specific set of perks/blessings for it to be effective

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chainsword is a good weapon generally, but it doesn't work too well on psyker

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because psyker exclusive weapons are so insanely busted

dusk void
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I feel this is no good though

supple dock
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I mean it's the shittier of the two builds for it

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But it's a build

harsh urchin
#

yep

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rending trauma at least is a build

dusk void
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That got me through a lot of auric missions

strong gulch
# dusk void

Change cara to flak. That is what the charged blast hits most.

supple dock
#

Yeah it's servicable, it just has better options

harsh urchin
#

the problem with rending trauma IMO is that you're basically just waiting to get carried

strong gulch
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Unless you specifically hate crushers that much.

harsh urchin
#

so if you have shitty teammates

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you really feel the frustration

supple dock
harsh urchin
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true lmao

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just following someone who's good

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is a skill

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that a lot of ppl dont do well

strong gulch
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The window to make use of brittle, especially for yourself, is rather small. It also doesn't scale like it's supposed to.

lethal lagoon
# harsh urchin the problem with rending trauma IMO is that you're basically just waiting to get...

I play mostly support/tank builds. Like the smite Psyker+shield to stagger the enemies and the tank ogryn to pull aggro and hold them on me. So my damage output ist not my priority. I also like to play the Zealot to on support with chorus ability. But damn out of 3 people are to stupid to play their class in a efficent manner. Im so tired of thi...

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(also rending trauma is trash)

supple dock
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it's usable

strong gulch
#

I haven't used chainsword. Is that also a horde weapon?

If so, you might have too much overlap in melee and ranged weapons.

spice veldt
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rending trauma is nice if you ignore trauma as a main weapon

lethal lagoon
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I can pop two random grey weapons and just spam EP smite, everything is usable

spice veldt
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and opt to mainly use your blitz/melee

harsh urchin
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chainsword is fine it just can't compete

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with ds and fs

lethal lagoon
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That actually sounds fun.

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I do have a BiS Rending Trauma the emperor cursed me with

spice veldt
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and 3 out of the 4 psyker staffs having some hordeclear

spice veldt
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i'd run chainsword with gunker though

supple dock
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Can deal with armor, can deal with hordes

strong gulch
#

kk

lethal lagoon
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Only good part of chainsword is you can Anime kill mutants as they run past you

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Special them as they run past and they'll die a distance away.

spice veldt
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since chainsword does happen to be one of the better crit weapons

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and w/ gunker on scriers for a hordeclear melee that doesn't generate peril (relative to the illisi)

dusk void
lethal lagoon
supple dock
dusk void
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But it is pretty rough

strong gulch
supple dock
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..

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Now I want cinnabons from taco bell

lethal lagoon
strong gulch
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taco smell

lethal lagoon
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Going over to a family member's house as a kid and them having one of those make it yourself taco spreads

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I have 3 extra stomachs for tacos like those

dusk void
#

All right. Y'all can talk shit on my talent tree

lethal lagoon
#

Not sure the things I wanna say can get past moderation, so...

dusk void
#

Iโ€™m an engineer. I get shitted on all the time. I can handle some rough criticism

strong gulch
#

What do you like about your build. We can start there.

lethal lagoon
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Low-key I haven't the slightest idea what to do with a rending trauma build.

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I actually think going EP assial is a good idea cause rending trauma is so mid

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Plus it stacks with the rending from trauma

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actually not bad

spice veldt
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i just play assail + ds4 with rending/blazing spirit trauma

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farm true aim stacks when the situation calls for a trauma usage

dusk void
lethal lagoon
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This will kill all mobs, ranged mobs, and brusiers.

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Also snipers

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So if you like that, I'd recommend swapping to shriek with creeping flames

spice veldt
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for that tree, i'd personally swap to Mettle and True Aim esp if you're using assail regularly

lethal lagoon
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Warp expen to mettle is the first one yeah.

dusk void
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I think Iโ€™m kinda done with the shield imo. Not a great use for gunners just shooting at my shield

spice veldt
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yeah since you're willing to go into mind in motion from assail then i'd go with venting shriek + creeping flames

strong gulch
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Here is a trauma + assail build with 2 points to do what you want with. This is for a balanced use of assail, trauma, and melee.

supple dock
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mind in motion is such a tragic talent

dusk void
strong gulch
supple dock
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also the reason mind in motion is a tragedy is because you can get sprint speed while quelling if you slide then quell while sliding @dusk void

strong gulch
#

There is a mod that squishes your in game tree also.

supple dock
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yeah but that shit's horrific

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looks so bad

spice veldt
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this is the tree I use with blazing spirit/rending shockwave trauma + assail + ds4, which gives up a toughness node in exchange for malefic momentum and wasting another point coming from venting shriek and across into true aim into DD

strong gulch
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I hate the squished tree too

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Ye. That is another option.

lethal lagoon
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If you wanna keep EP

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Can also swap the quell speed for true aim

strong gulch
#

Three solid choices. Each with their own play styles.

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Maining assail with Atlas, using trauma as utility with Arco, and more agressive trauma use with mine.

lethal lagoon
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Alternatively you can abandon heresy for the light and roll anything other than a rending trauma

spice veldt
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rending shockwave + blazing spirit true aim trauma dream

dusk void
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And each will make me more of a glass cannon, but thanks for the extreme criticism. Really appreciate yโ€™all

strong gulch
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Good luck on blazing trauma

lethal lagoon
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Having a pocket rending boi

dusk void
lethal lagoon
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You can grab true aim and then EE. Less squishy

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Plus flaming shriek will kill all ranged mobs in that area I showed earlier, and heavily damage gunners, can't be squishy if they are all dead.

dusk void
lethal lagoon
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You get ranged immunity for 1 second on crit.

strong gulch
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EE. Empathic evasion.

dusk void
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Never used that talent. Canโ€™t hurt though

rich spindle
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Imo anything with these talents will Just Workโ„ข๏ธ

lethal lagoon
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Surviving on psyker can be a learning curve, but it's also way easier than it seems.

strong gulch
lethal lagoon
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It's decent on blaze trauma too, it's just really unneeded because everything is

rich spindle
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It would be interesting if they nerfed that + shriek and changed wildfire to actually usefully spread sb

dusk void
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I only can get a level 3 blazing spirit blessing ๐Ÿ˜”

lethal lagoon
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Blazing 3 is the max

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For trauma and void

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Not that you want it on void

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6 stacks of soul blaze will kill all non elites

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And then you add 6 more with flaming shriek

dusk void
#

Can I buy more shit?

strong gulch
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Still can't believe sword get T4 blazing spirit and staves don't.

lethal lagoon
#

Why you use rending trauma my guy

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I'm guessing you just started psyker, do you want a run down on what's "OP"

lethal lagoon
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Might as well just add solo queue to go along with it

strong gulch
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The way I don't even have enough ordos to buy something from brunt's shop because of I chain roll until rarity. Hadron stays bricking things.

lethal lagoon
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Oh, were you just specifically trying to get rending trauma to work? That makes sense, my b

rich spindle
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Id take rending trauma over soulblaze if im in a competent team

lethal lagoon
dusk void
supple dock
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tbh there's not much we will really be able to help you with except for builds, you gotta find a rhythm that fits you

lethal lagoon
supple dock
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Because the way I engage in a fight and the way Atlas engages could be WILDLY different, even with the same kit

strong gulch
#

Maybe watch people who consistently clear aurics?

supple dock
#

Psyker is very very varied

lethal lagoon
#

No one engages like me baby

dusk void
ornate hamlet
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if your really struggling pull out the easy mode button also known as the voidstrike

supple dock
lethal lagoon
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Too much aiming. Surge Flaming Shriek will always be the easy mode

strong gulch
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Like, there are mechanics in the game that are easily missed or the games doesn't really explain.

lethal lagoon
#

Why aim when you can just spam lightning and screech like a proper government official.

supple dock
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yeah I'm like level 875 on psyker and I'm still learning shit from these clowns

lethal lagoon
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I made too many psyker alts so my true level makes me shy

ornate hamlet
dusk void
supple dock
#

full charges will do better unless you're trying to not die

lethal lagoon
#

When I say Surge and Scream will carry an auric mael, I mean surge and scream.

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You can do things to be more effective

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But you'll still win and be 1st.

ornate hamlet
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oh i know what your saying

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i hate void its boring

supple dock
supple dock
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But then again I'm playing with a psyker that's level 1400 KEKW

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Voidstrike and Blazing Trauma are insane

strong gulch
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Idk about spamming assail. Half charges only really work on blaze trauma because of the soulblaze. That's more defensive anyways.

lethal lagoon
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Last time I played with a high level psyker he did 7x my damage, never again

supple dock
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LMAO

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Holy shit I'd uninstall

lethal lagoon
#

I was level 6

ornate hamlet
#

oh no

supple dock
lethal lagoon
supple dock
#

..

lethal lagoon
#

OnlySmites is true to their name

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๐Ÿซก

supple dock
#

Okay taht just wiped the smile off my face

#

wtf is that 1.4m

strong gulch
#

smite bad. pls buff

dusk void
#

Not perfect, but good enough?

lethal lagoon
#

Look how bad Smite is at lvl 1

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Plz buff

supple dock
#

Swap carapace for flak maybe?

dusk void
lethal lagoon
supple dock
#

Agreed

strong gulch
supple dock
#

That staff is an offense to my eyes but it'll be ok for a trial run

strong gulch
#

You will have to rely on true aim to get your crits to proc blazing spirit.

supple dock
#

Can you even proc it with trauma staff?

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I mean LMB exists but

lethal lagoon
#

Melee can give you stacks but can't proc

supple dock
#

ooh

strong gulch
#

LMB, assail, and melee can build the true aim stacks.

lethal lagoon
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Trauma right click doesn't give stacks but can proc

dusk void
#

Forget this chainsword then?

supple dock
#

... brb looking up blessings for chainsword

lethal lagoon
#

Weak spot damage doesn't do anything, but I'm guessing you just got stuck with that

supple dock
#

rampage and savage sweep sound pretty good

strong gulch
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I can't comment on chain sword. I don't know enough about many of the mundane weapons.

supple dock
lethal lagoon
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I mean if you were smacking bosses, and not using it for horde clear, bloodletter probably works?

dusk void
#

That chainsword is for bosses and mutants

supple dock
#

hmm

dusk void
#

And pox hounds (sometimes)

strong gulch
supple dock
#

bloodletter and shred then?

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I dislike shred as a concept but it sounds pretty ok for that

rich spindle
#

Chainsword basically maxing out bleed stacks on special is fun

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Bloodletter/shred sounds the most useful for you

supple dock
#

wait does special count for shred?

harsh urchin
#

No

supple dock
#

shit game

dusk void
#

I also have this.

rich spindle
#

Show off

supple dock
#

..

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Just use that lmao

jovial juniper
supple dock
#

that's ass

dusk void
#

I thought this sword was going to suck

supple dock
rich spindle
#

I think precog is needed to one shot muties

strong gulch
dusk void
strong gulch
#

Cara is fine on DS4

supple dock
rich spindle
#

Cara > flak on ds

supple dock
#

You think? Hmm

rich spindle
#

Ds is for poking maulers and crushers in the head

dusk void
#

So my sword is fine then?

rich spindle
#

That sword is basically as good as it gets

supple dock
#

Yeah, should do you a good

strong gulch
#

Lots of armor is flak, but on trauma the secondary hits the center which is flak most of the time.

supple dock
#

Like you won't ever need to use another DS4 but that one

rich spindle
strong gulch
rich spindle
#

Bru

jovial juniper
supple dock
#

@dusk void Cool tech you can do with the DS in general, is right after you land a heavy, use the special attack immediately after, you'll be able to stagger lock most things

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It cuts the recovery time after a heavy

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Takes just as long

dusk void
#

Now this is complete

strong gulch
supple dock
rich spindle
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Can you one shot maulers with precog

modest crane
#

is the penance warp battery easier if you dont upgrade your warp charges to 6? dumb q but i'm curious

rich spindle
#

Should be

strong gulch
# dusk void Now this is complete

Looks good. Just keep in the specific set up it needs with true aim to proc blazing spirit.

For more agro blaze trauma, the belssing combo is nexus + blazing spirit with the same perks.

modest crane
#

thumbsup_ogryn thanks

dusk void
#

I beileve it's 2 minutes instead of 5 minutes

rich spindle
#

If just go flurry instead of blaze on that tbh

modest crane
#

120s yeah

rich spindle
#

True aim will be so annoying to track and set up

dusk void
rich spindle
#

Just my preference

supple dock
dusk void
rich spindle
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The faster charge from flurry would be so much nicer than random blaze procs, for me

lethal lagoon
#

I mean it'll still give you an idea of how blaze trauma works

rich spindle
#

I'm in the camp that rending > blaze #controversial

supple dock
dusk void
#

Y'all are making me waste my 51,000 plasteel ๐Ÿ˜‚

dusk void
#

I'll stick to rending trauma with warp flurry

rich spindle
#

Excellent choice my son

true lake
#

i mean, if you are doing tons of fire stuff then yeah go blazing

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rending aint a bad choice tho

lethal lagoon
#

(at least I didn't though)

rich spindle
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Blaze: farm trash mobs faster than your team, couple times get gunners/ragers to 9 stacks
Rending: everything is on the floor forever and has 60% armor

true lake
#

only thing with rending is depending on yours and everyone elses builds you can probably just ignore armor altogether

lethal lagoon
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Blazing, makes it clear when the things on the floor aren't dead.

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Rending, can trap your teammates to death with fallen mobs

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You know what...

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Rending might be better

rich spindle
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Lol youre right

lethal lagoon
true lake
#

maybe teammates shouldnt run directly into horde that was barely attacked yet then

rich spindle
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I love messing up ogryns toughness regen with trauma <3

lethal lagoon
#

Average rending Psyker when they see a group of mobs.

rich spindle
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No heavy hits for you big guy

supple dock
lethal lagoon
#

Why kick people when you can just use rending

true lake
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same, mainly because purgatus and deimos require me to

supple dock
true lake
#

lol

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im just glad i dont have to play psyker like they are super squishy and need to hide away to brain burst the big guys

supple dock
#

I mean, they ARE super squishy, but if you just don't get hit that's not a problem

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I say as I got gently tagged by a bruiser and lost 2/3ds of my hp

true lake
#

oof

supple dock
#

..I'm checking out the other class channels

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It's a whole other community KEKW

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That's actually kinda cool though

lethal lagoon
gloomy magnet
#

Canโ€™t wait for the fifth

supple dock
lethal lagoon
gloomy magnet
#

dont forget that the god emperor is psyker

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also

lethal lagoon
#

TBF, I think they like to forget that.

supple dock
#

lmao

tired estuary
#

hypocrisy is a feature of fascism

lethal lagoon
#

I can't think of any gathering of humans that hypocrisy isn't a feature of

supple dock
#

why are we talking about hippos

lethal lagoon
#

Hippos are scary

gloomy magnet
#

cuz zealots are hippo

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emperor is a naughty boy indeed -- Malcador

potent echo
#

Hippocratic oath

supple dock
#

is that hippo legislature

#

So

#

You guys remember a few hours ago how I said I was gonna down enough caffeine to put myself in a panic attack

#

3 cups of coffee using 3x the amount of grounds you're supposed to and a mountain dew to go with it

#

THIS IS MY HEARTRATE

gloomy magnet
#

panic? rust metioned

#

bro should take another can of redbull

potent echo
#

2201 BPM? Damn

gloomy magnet
#

timezone doxxed

supple dock
#

idk what the fuck is wrong with me but something clearly is

viscid matrix
# supple dock

Is 65 good or bad for heart rate, also 2201 is 10pm, itโ€™s the time

The heart symbol is heartrrate

supple dock
rich spindle
#

So many absolutely awful players on auric maelstrom rn

strong gulch
supple dock
#

Resting BPM can be anywhere from 40-90 depending on the person

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My rest is 65~ and my active is about 160~

late night
#

good enough or should i slob on hadrons knob

gloomy magnet
#

oh no, dear damage

supple dock
#

bad damage but blazing spirit

#

it'll hold you over for that build probably

late night
#

someone told me damage is not that important

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on blaze trauma

#

idk if true

supple dock
#

yeah, it isn't as big of a deal

#

Since your horde clear is all in the fire

gloomy magnet
#

i think Blast radius is not that important

late night
#

uh really?

supple dock
#

blast radius is huge

late night
#

isnt it like

#

thje most important

supple dock
#

voidstrike blast is bad

late night
#

that and charge time

gloomy magnet
#

isnt it for single target?

lethal lagoon
late night
#

idk tbh lol

#

i trust your guys judgement

supple dock
#

blast radius big

late night
#

ill use it for now

supple dock
#

big big big big

#

But yeah that staff is fine

lethal lagoon
#

68% damage is fine, it's not BiS obviously, but you aren't really going to notice it

gloomy magnet
#

omg 80 radius is nuke

lethal lagoon
#

I would use that staff and I would never feel a need to replace it unless I had nothing else to roll for

gloomy magnet
#

oh it is trauma

#

my bad

lethal lagoon
gloomy magnet
#

trauma and voidstrike is too similar

late night
#

ive spent too much plaststeel

supple dock
#

guys.

#

I farted and it smells I hate it here

late night
#

as long as 636 epicenter dmg vs 660 doesnt lose a breakpoint

#

im never rolling blaze trauma again

lethal lagoon
#

It might, but you have the flame to cover breakies.

late night
#

true

#

im never roling blaze trauma again

supple dock
#

yeee, that staff is fine and can be used easy