psyker-class

[upper sun]

sibling how are you doing 90 actions per second

[supple dock]

My SC2 APM is about 100 apm so that'd be a downgrade

[quartz barn]

Unless you run with ds you'd need peril management for illisi/deimos as well

[marble crater]

You will manually quell peril most of the time, just to keep using your staves, automatically would lead to a lot of downtime

[supple dock]

Yeah, and you can quell while keeping pace if you slide forward then quell a bit, then repeat

Psyker is easily left behind

[marble crater]

My DS4 says no

[supple dock]

listen here you little shit

But yeah in the higher difficulties slide quelling is movement tech you need to master imo

[urban sandal]

slide with ds4, swap and quell and repeat

[supple dock]

@urban sandal read reply 😄

[quartz barn]

Wdym easily left behind

[supple dock]

You spend a lot of time channeling and quelling which limits your speed

[quartz barn]

Either i zoom past everything with ds or i stay behind on purpose

[urban sandal]

yeah I feel like I'm always on backline duty as psyker

[supple dock]

Yes, but to an inexperienced psyker, they're going to be left behind

[quartz barn]

Cant trust teammates dealing with the special wave

[supple dock]

Keep in mind we aren't talking to an AM player

[quartz barn]

Fair i guess

[supple dock]

All of the things I'm mentioning need a playstyle adjustment from other classes

[quartz barn]

Psyker does have the highest skill ceiling

[marble crater]

I also made a playstyle adjustment, I'm running purgatus, shield, assail and DD, I hate it

[thick tiger]

This class is a completely different beast, I have 3 talent points, how should I begin spending them? Does psyker do a lot of crits? There is quite a few crit requiring talents as well

[plucky flax]

I am always right.

[supple dock]

toughness regen skills

[plucky flax]

Top 1%

[quartz barn]

Toughness regen is the best

[thick tiger]

Alright will be focusing on toughness

[supple dock]

That's easy. It's all at the top of the tree

[quartz barn]

You have a ton of ways to spec into it + is the best stat in the game

[supple dock]

And yes, psyker deals with lots of crits depending on staff and skills

[plucky flax]

For assail you should use soulstealer over quietude

[supple dock]

I honestly take both cause I'm a giant pussy

[marble crater]

Good thing this is not my picture, I just post it. I'm immune to the criticism

[quartz barn]

I run with bb but barely use it lmao

Only if something somehow cant get hit

[plucky flax]

Nice scam

[jovial juniper]

I do believe you move slightly faster if you quell with your staff, feel free to test or something like that

[quartz barn]

Simply time your dodge so you i-frame every hit without moving

[supple dock]

better to just slide quell anyways

[thick tiger]

I've seen lots of other Psykers use the shield barrier ability, using the spherical modifier, how good is it?

[quartz barn]

Then aoe stunlock horde with void or trauma

Bubble is broken lol

[supple dock]

Excels in like 3 specific scenarios in a mission, very strong

[marble crater]

Shield is very good

[wet belfry]

yes

[quartz barn]

Lets you trivialize gunners which is the only dangerous enemy

[marble crater]

But shriek is just more fun and can save you from blowing up, if you mess up

[quartz barn]

Netters cant hit you while inside

[plucky flax]

Not as good as creeping flames.

[quartz barn]

Blocks grenades

[supple dock]

venting shriek is much much much more versatile than bubble

[quartz barn]

Can trap glubby (beast of nurgle)

[marble crater]

I know, delete hordes, save people from dogs through walls and 2 rooms

[quartz barn]

Doesnt work vs tox gas tho

[supple dock]

clears hordes, save from dogs, prep a revival, save yourself from explosion, staggers gunner packs

[marble crater]

Regens toughness as fast as you lose it, it kinda works

[quartz barn]

Also true

Was more meant for blocking the grenade

[jovial juniper]

If you dodge a mutie it immediately hits a "wall"

[quartz barn]

But big aoe gas cloud zzzz

[marble crater]

Yes don't stand in it

[thick tiger]

Tony Soprano in a Warthog picture is clearly a sign that this is the build to use

[urban sandal]

cant go wrong with ds4/trauma

[pine hearth]

I love getting 2 blessings that dont EVEN WORK ON THE WEAPON

[marble crater]

[supple dock]

[quartz barn]

Why does surge not work on the secondary......

My double boom 😦

[supple dock]

a cool trauma staff blessing would be that consecutive casts makes the circle smaller but deal more damage

[marble crater]

Make it bigger

And deal more damage

[supple dock]

or maybe like

"subsequent casts deals more damage" on one blessing and size on another?

[quartz barn]

Or change the primary fire to a horizontal blast / shotty

[supple dock]

or, OR. Make that the special fucking action

Instead of

[quartz barn]

But staff bonk

[supple dock]

wait not that one

this? yeah this.

[quartz barn]

Gonna be honest the first one works too

Staff bonk as no horny / love tap cuz no dmg

Meanwhile the 12 crushers

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/cannabis-grow-small-tiny-disappointed-gif-20717148

Psyker staff special

[supple dock]

t r u e

[thick tiger]

The Psykana hood you get from the penances removes your character's hair unlike every other hoods sharing the same model, it's also named "Psykhana" while every other one is named "Psykana"

[marble crater]

Fatshark

[vestal fulcrum]

[thick tiger]

Cosmetic errors, I get, but they have so many itemization related jank that it's crazy, like there was a vet revolver blessing that had the description of melee kills giving 20% crit chance for 2.5 seconds, while the blessing actually only increases your crit chance when you kill an enemy with the butt of your revolver, which deals around 30 or so damage, making the blessing pointless, and also misleading.

[vestal fulcrum]

The blessing idea is nice, but its implementation is very unreliable

Imagine if on butt special attack hit it would have reduced recoil and increased rate of fire

Maybe give it also some Crit, IDK

[thick tiger]

That would be cool, but they also have to reduce the unable to do anything period for the butt special attack, Zarona revolver only has 2 blessings that are worthwhile, so something unique and useful like that would be great

[supple dock]

Special could do an alternative attack depending on the staff

Like Trauma becoming a bolt, Voidstrike becoming a shotgun blast

Surge staff hitting a single target

Purg...i dunno actually

[mighty cipher]

Don’t touch my god damn staff bonk

[quartz barn]

Voidstrike would be a force bonk

Have the charged orb at the end and smack people with it

[supple dock]

that would be sick

[urban sandal]

actually sounds kinda sick compared to what we have now

[quartz barn]

Trauma the shotty, the same blast but forward

[urban sandal]

smack a crusher on his ass with the base of the staff

[quartz barn]

Surge could be the lightning bolt

[supple dock]

A free aim piercing attack?

That would be nice

[quartz barn]

Purg similar to deimos charge hit?

But fire

[supple dock]

OH I got it

You expend a bunch of peril and you get a staggering ring of fire around you

small area

for those "oh shit they're behind me" situations

[burnt valley]

ofc i killed them in a row man did u actually read the full thing a guy told me it was still tracking even if the buff didnt show correctly my stack should have been lasting 10 seconds and the penance tracks at 15 stack and above

[vestal fulcrum]

This is surprisingly a good base for a 349 score item

also an Obscurus. Couldn't be a coincidence

[marble crater]

🤮

[quartz barn]

56 mobility 😴

[thick tiger]

What are some good psyker weapons, doesn't have to be meta, could be a staff, gun, melee, or rather which ones to stay away from works too

[mental rock]

Pretty much any staff will work with the right build. For guns, colum MkV iag, zarona revolver, or Acca las pistol are popular options

[thick tiger]

I have some blessings that I got from my veteran class, they do work on other classes too right? As long as the blessing is for the right weapon

[mental rock]

Yea

[thick tiger]

Thanks, will be looking into those weapons, used the trauma force staff a bit on malice psykhanium and to be honest it felt weak against elites, although it maybe because its my first ranged that is not a gun. Heavy las pistol seems fine, and MKV Iag is also a very good weapon on veteran.

[supple dock]

psyker kinda requires a full setup before it gets really going

Trauma is stronk

[thick tiger]

That makes sense, will be grinding levels then, barely got into the talent tree

[calm sapphire]

not lvl 30 yet?

[mental rock]

Oh yeah if you're not level 30 yet, trauma will feel really weak

[supple dock]

guns might do you better for leveling tbh

[thick tiger]

Nope, just started playing Psyker for the first time

Alright will be sticking to guns

[plucky flax]

Trauma Xd

[calm sapphire]

best to just speedrun to lvl 30 before upgrading weps or judging them

tho psyker leveling isn't too bad

[mighty olive]

I feel like trauma is only good in auric

[supple dock]

Probably

Enemies are too spread apart when it isn't

[mental rock]

Assail makes levelling psyker the most bearable of the classes imo

[mighty olive]

Not my fav staff >_<

[supple dock]

@thick tiger yeah, with assail you legit won't have to worry about weapons too much lmao

[burnt valley]

If u use the armor shred trauma staff then ye

[supple dock]

Though assail is kinda broken op rn

so I try to avoid

tbh so is smite

psyker is just good ~.~

[mighty olive]

I leveled before the class changes, think I used surge and purg back then lol fun times

[burnt valley]

boom noises

[supple dock]

no blazing spirit, shit staff

[thick tiger]

I was planning on brain rupture, but if assail makes leveling easier so be it, I assume my only problem will be crushers, going by the Blitz's description

[calm sapphire]

pysker is stronk only when u r not braindead

takes alot of brain power to keep track of peril while being distracted by other stuff

[burnt valley]

can put it on if i wanted to

[supple dock]

fair enough

[burnt valley]

but i wont 😄

[supple dock]

Yeah, and you can offset armor by grabbing a Dueling Sword 4 or a deimos force sword and if that isn't available the obscurus force sword can help you until you get something else

[calm sapphire]

we don't talk about blazing trauma

[mighty olive]

If ya don't wanna go gun, for armor enemies I really love void staff, it clears armor pretty well

[supple dock]

Void and Surge yeah

[burnt valley]

Kinda eeh to me anyway blazing trauma used it for a few runs didnt like it that much felt like why wouldnt i just use a voidstrike staff instead

[supple dock]

better hordeclear

The range on it is insane

[calm sapphire]

once I got this, I never looked back to scrier gun psyker

[mighty olive]

Void is good for general use on all difficulties, trauma needs big hordes to be effective imo

[supple dock]

Flak over Carapace?

[burnt valley]

just waiting for warp nexus 4 🙂 for mine

[calm sapphire]

find flak more useful since crushers are the least of my issue tbh

[supple dock]

I'm just fairly certain you can 1shot flak in most scenarios?

[burnt valley]

Although just rng'ed this one

[supple dock]

Don't quote me on that though

[burnt valley]

quell speed is kinda yikes

[mighty olive]

I feel the same, I had a void that I added crit to, other was infected lol I had no issue with armor haha its just good

[calm sapphire]

its just a pain to fully charge to deal with those pesky bruisers

[supple dock]

serviceable, but you'll want a better one at some point

[supple dock]

fair enough! I wasn't criticizing I just wanted to know your thought process on it

[calm sapphire]

well flak covers alot of enemies while cara covers crushers n mauler I believe

[mighty olive]

Yes

[burnt valley]

got this one chilling but feel like not having crit on voidstrike just makes it pointless to use

[rigid sky]

Voidstrike can't nuke as wide an area. Different purposes really.

[supple dock]

mauler headshots ye

yeah voidstrike is like mid level horde killing and high damage on armor

[calm sapphire]

useable but ye that extra crit "feels like it helps"

[burnt valley]

so got a choice of either correct blessing and perks with some iffy stats or 1 wrong perk with much better overall stats

[supple dock]

Hmm. ss?

[burnt valley]

void strike is the only staff ive struggled to get a really good version of every other staff i got perfect rolls after like 1-4 tries makes sad

[calm sapphire]

its ok, just save your plasteel for craft rework

[supple dock]

cause like, how iffy are the iffy stats

[burnt valley]

I link both already

[calm sapphire]

nvm

[supple dock]

oh it was the one above

[burnt valley]

ye

[terse saffron]

flak only gets you to oneshot flak ragers on full charge if you dont crit

[supple dock]

take this one imo

[burnt valley]

ye thought the same way

[terse saffron]

unless you're building against nurgle blessed gunners? not sure you can hit the breakpoint

[burnt valley]

quell speed will hurt but everything else is high enough

[supple dock]

if you have quietude it cancels it out anyways but quietude is a meme

[calm sapphire]

ye first staff imo better since not having a better perk will def hurt a bit

[burnt valley]

My other staffs if curious yes i could make the surge staff better but i see no reason to 😄

aint going to say no to a first roll almost bis surge 😄

[rigid sky]

How is quietitude a meme

[supple dock]

It's fine, just generally not something you grab unless you're going for ws anyways

[lapis violet]

of course i have no ammo. we have a gunker

[rigid sky]

Wait are you thinking of solidity

The quell speed booster?

[supple dock]

OH

YEAH

[rigid sky]

Quietitude is quelling-adds-toughness

[supple dock]

oops

I meant solidity LOL

[rigid sky]

I kinda dig Solidity if I'm doing smite memes tbh

EP builds have points to spare though

[supple dock]

fair enough, ws is expensive af

[rigid sky]

Yeah, the entire left leg of the tree is bad imo apart from warp charges themselves

[supple dock]

bb with kinetic resonance slaps

[wide knoll]

I run w/o a keystone, but my spec is kinda weird anyways.

[supple dock]

psyker keystones are legit some of the most powerful

[wide knoll]

I run melee a lot, so I'm top heavy and run BB and scriers. No, I don't use a gun!

[burnt valley]

Me running EP but not liking how fast i overheat with smite 😄

[lapis violet]

???? brunt???

what's up wiith brunt lately

[burnt valley]

Me going to brunt and only finding 21% health curios

[vestal fulcrum]

You’re typing that as if Brunt wasn’t delivering quality pilfered goods from time to time

[wide knoll]

The brunt lottery.

[lapis violet]

brunt used to be nothing but disappointing some time ago

i roll for like 30 weapons and the dude gives me like 4 350+ weapons

[wide knoll]

Yep.

[supple dock]

I managed to pull out a near-perfect trauma staff from brunt

[wide knoll]

I got a 545 blade and still dump my money there.

...only to have Hadron fuck it up?

[supple dock]

nope, hadron blessed it

so I just whimsically found a trauma staff that most people don't have

[lapis violet]

i cri eri tiem

[supple dock]

Riposte is fine

I'd go again

[lapis violet]

praying

i have uncanny but like

neither of those perks are good

[supple dock]

yes, but if you get even a fine blessing

You can reroll the perks and leave the blessings

[lapis violet]

is dueling sword 2 bad? yes. it is fun to whack dudes and slide around? absolutely

[brave fiber]

it’s not bad it’s just not ds4

It’s completely serviceable

[supple dock]

this sounds like some preemptive cope

[lapis violet]

i have 2 good 4s but like

[supple dock]

did the DS4 brick?

[lapis violet]

poor

but i got a mk 2 to max because i tried it once on my low level psyker and it was very very fun

and much better at horde clearing

[supple dock]

Yee, I don't use DS4 for hordeclear. Mostly for mutants and mobility

[brave fiber]

for a single target weapon all the dueling swords aren’t half bad at horde clear with the right setup

ds4 with scriers is actually a menace

[lapis violet]

well with most of my builds, i don't really get an option to use anything but ds4 for horde clear

scrier's
yeah no

i can't click heads

[supple dock]

scrier's is wildly good

[brave fiber]

scriers with ds4 is the most broken thing in the game unironically

[lapis violet]

i know

it's a skill issue on my end

[brave fiber]

Also if you use Columnus all you realistically need to do is aim in the direction of heads and you’re good

[lapis violet]

i'd need to get a good columnus

[wide knoll]

I've seen a lot more gun psykers lately - though I haven't seen many do it well.

[marble crater]

Because many are doing it for the penances only

[wide knoll]

Same reason why Aurics have been pissing me off lately. I'm giving it a couple of weeks to cool down with the title shit.

[brave fiber]

run a hard carry build or make a premade

[wide knoll]

I have like 2 builds that I enjoy running that don't play well with hard carries - or a team full of knive zealots.

[brave fiber]

knife zealot works great, it’s always a problem with the player tbh

[wide knoll]

Well, there are good ones and bad ones.

[brave fiber]

a good rule of thumb is seeing if they’re running toughness dr or loner aura

[plucky flax]

hides as knife zealot and vet

[brave fiber]

That usually tells you

[wide knoll]

I have knife zealot and stopped playing it. I was having lots more fun running a knive on my psyker.

[calm sapphire]

casual stroll around forums today

[upper galleon]

knife is just bipolar, best and worst players

[mellow prairie]

bro got 8% damage against groaners

you are the freaky psyker

[mellow prairie]

I always see knife (usually veterans) players try to clutch and then not clutch :x

[near wyvern]

Knife is the best, especially for Psykers. Change my mind.

[mellow prairie]

I think knife is good and I've always heard it rated highly

I've also had good experiences with dueling sword and force sword

I think those are definitely top three.

[calm sapphire]

knife is good if the player is good

simple as is tho it requires a bit more skill to use

[mental rock]

Knife has the best players and people who think they are the best players

[mellow prairie]

I think, of the three (dueling sword, force sword, knife), knife is the easiest to use

just do the two slashes and dodge thing

[calm sapphire]

Staggering elites n special hits different on knife users so it may take newbies by surprise tbh.

Most melee wep lights if not all can stagger most specials but knife can't for example

[rigid sky]

tbh I just don't want multiple stealth players

1 is fine, if they don't play like a penis.

Knives themselves are fine, Fury of the Faithful knife users exist too

They scare the shit outta me lmao

Also why is my name white now

[calm sapphire]

Knife pyskers exist and some swear by it

[rigid sky]

Yeah, the 6 right

[marble crater]

Your name is not white

[rigid sky]

Discord display bug

[sinful peak]

alright so I'm coming from zealot, how tf do I stay alive on psyker

my main toughness regen is just quelling

feel so squishy

[mental rock]

Psyker tools mainly focus on not getting hit, rather than straight up damage reduction

If you feel toughness lacking, try bubble shield

[plucky flax]

If you want toughness from kill take soulstealer.

[mental rock]

Situational awareness is crucial in this game, but on psyker it's truely key because of your squishyness

Also kinda hard to give tips without seeing what youre using in terms of talents/weps

[rigid sky]

Take soulstealer, mettle and quietitude on every build

Don't get hit, but especially don't get hit twice

[sinful peak]

I have mettle and quiet but can't really fit soulstealer

[rigid sky]

Make it fit

[mental rock]

Link your talent build so we can judge you

[rigid sky]

Unless you run warp Siphon you should have a point you can spare

And even if you do, you skip something else

[marble crater]

If you get hit three times, you won't be able to get hit a fourth time

[rigid sky]

Yeah, 3 bruisers swinging at once might as well be a crusher overhead

[sinful peak]

voidstrike & blaze trauma

[rigid sky]

If you can spare it, even take warp replenishment (although it is the least necessary node for it)

Yeah warp siphon is a pain lol

Consider dropping wildfire on the second build imo

[marble crater]

Heretic

You want your friends to live longer, huh?

[rigid sky]

Maybe consider going to 4 charges

But also I question rupture/bubble/siphon as a combo

[sinful peak]

isn't that like really important for a blaze trauma build

[marble crater]

I wonder if going for DD on the bubble shield would be better as well, if you are already investing all the way there

[rigid sky]

Imo siphon wants Shriek, bubble prefers the other keystones

[rigid sky]

Desirable but not essential imo

I take it but i use EP brain rupture bubble

So I have spare points

[sinful peak]

I guess I could drop Sanctuary on the first build?

[rigid sky]

Is that part of the shield? I really wouldn't

[sweet wadi]

any1 availble to carry my psyker

[rigid sky]

Shield is a 3 point ability, whichever direction you choose

[sinful peak]

it gives 10% tough/s in the shield

[rigid sky]

Yeah, that's really good

Makes bubble worth it imo

Otherwise it doesn't help melee engagements

[marble crater]

Drop warp charges and go for one of the other keystones, imo

[sinful peak]

which one? they don't seem that useful compared to siphon

[rigid sky]

Try disrupt destiny with voidstrike

[marble crater]

Also let's you take perilous combustion with soulstealer

[rigid sky]

It's fucking sick

Especially with Assail too

[marble crater]

Just be aware that DD has a visual bug and you won't see the stacks, but they are there

[rigid sky]

Also if you don't take Assail, always take Psychinetic's Aura

It's one of our strongest points

[sinful peak]

do I take lingering or perfectionism on DD

[rigid sky]

Disrupt Destiny is the best on any weapon that properly supports it imo

[rigid sky]

Lingering to begin with. If you try it and realise you can get away with Perfection then go for it.

But if you try Perfectionism right away, you will hate it

[marble crater]

If he can realize, given the visual bug

[sinful peak]

like this?

and giving up right side

[supple dock]

you can only reach that from mid or right side

going left isn't an option if you want crit aura

...I think?

Now I need to double check

[mental rock]

You can

[supple dock]

oh ignore me then, the red covered the line lmao

smite doesn't need the augments either so that's good

[sinful peak]

looks good?

[marble crater]

Personally I would pick perilous combubstion in the top left instead of the middle node in the keystone

[supple dock]

this was just... sitting in melk's shop

[marble crater]

Good if you don't already have a surge

[supple dock]

yeah but I do so eh

am fairly confident my surge is ok

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

It's better than the one from melk

[supple dock]

👁️ 👄 👁️ is that solidity I see

[radiant frigate]

what is this for

also purloin providence sucketh

[radiant frigate]

solidity unironically good with surge

[junior linden]

Good afternoon Psyker chat

Wolfer before a hunting grounds mission

[rigid sky]

If you want one without crit locked it might still be worth it if you have an excess of melkbux

[quartz barn]

wtf is this team....

i am ricky btw, had a friend take the screenshot xd

[junior linden]

That's ok you get to pad your stats

[marble crater]

I was confused by the low damage, but looks like you are at the start of the mission

[supple dock]

oh yeah with surge cause it's so brutal peril wise

[sinful peak]

tried 1 match, yeah survivability is waay better now

I have to kill the marked enemies personally right?

[marble crater]

Yes

[modern tusk]

Better cross out the names of the players before a mod sees it

[rigid sky]

If you want one without crit locked it might still be worth it if you have an excess of melkbux

[marble crater]

There is a clitch in the Matrix

[dusk frost]

...You know what I want for a psyker?
Unlike all those skull masks, implants and all that?
I want a wizard hat.

Just a Wizard hat

Just let me be Disney's Merlin in the future, with a gun.

[patent wing]

gm

[near drift]

ideal psyker drip

[radiant frigate]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2112810045986108219/E4171034D748CB11CE584691C4091E0F870B8907/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

[supple dock]

my most powerful spell: glock 14

[rigid sky]

I am intrigued and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[rigid sky]

Remember, the safe word is Banana

[supple dock]

I still remember how to key in lightning bolt

qfasa

[rigid sky]

ARSE

Do you like bees? Etc

Idk the yogscast+total biscuit playthrough of that almost killed me

[tacit bobcat]

stil waiting for new staves...

https://tenor.com/view/gruppa-krovi-kino-tsoi-im-fine-smoke-gif-16402967

slowly rotting..

[plucky flax]

Lost track of how many people left the game when they're down this round I'm playing lol

[slate oasis]

I feel like that's been happening a lot lately

[jovial juniper]

Penance

[upper sun]

sorry all me

[plucky flax]

Extreme penance hunting.

[upper sun]

SO LONG and thanks for all the penance points

[willow hazel]

Any opinions on Psy Aura vs. Assail on melee psyker

I used to be in the Assail camp, but going Aura frees up like 5 talent points

[upper sun]

psy aura good

imagine having that and an ogryn with uhhhh brusier aura? on the team

im 90% ogryn has a similar one

[jovial juniper]

With Assail you won't have targets to melee

[upper sun]

excuse me melee is the PRIMARY weapon

[willow hazel]

melee is definately more dps than assail

[jovial juniper]

I wasn't familiar with your game

[fossil lagoon]

what is "warp damage"

[upper sun]

blitz/staff damage

maybe blaze sword power up attack? though i doubt that

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[marble crater]

Anything space magic, also force sword special

[plucky flax]

If it uses peril it is warp attack.

[willow hazel]

also soulfire

[slate oasis]

what's the best enemy damage boost perk for void strike? I've always gone with flak but idk maybe carapace or something else is better

[upper sun]

depending on what you want to damage more

tbh i prefer to go +5 crit

[slate oasis]

I have +5% crit as the other perk

[upper sun]

😨

a-and the blessings?

[slate oasis]

surge and t4 nexus

[upper sun]

disgusting i hate you

took me forever to get one with a free perk 😭

[steady terrace]

what the difference between left mouse brain burst and right mouse?

[upper sun]

but yeah flak/maniac/unyielding/elite anything

[marble crater]

One is aim first then charge, other is charge first then aim

[upper sun]

first locks to the target

[steady terrace]

when would you use each?

right mouse for peeking?

[upper sun]

if you hear a hound you can pre charge it with right if you wanna peak left click get the lock then charge it in cover

[marble crater]

I use right mouse when I know there is something about to come around the corner, otherwise I use normal one

[steady terrace]

ty

[late sapphire]

Right mouse if the vet is shooting 'the weird glowey guys' again

[marble crater]

Well, I don't use a mouse, but yeah

[late sapphire]

It's like a laser pointer with a cat, yknow?

[marble crater]

Now we kill their Krak targets

[late sapphire]

Always

Look i'm sorry but if you krak the single crusher i'm just poking it to death with my ds instead

[jovial juniper]

I legit stop attacking them

[upper sun]

if i cant have my SG wave you cant have your krak farm

[marble crater]

I also stop attacking if it's not a life or death situation

[late sapphire]

Go play auric mael melee scab only

Silly vet

[upper sun]

nah sorry farming FUN with trauma before it gets nerfed no kills for u vet

[steady terrace]

I am trying to go a warp siphon build with brain burst, is it worth not using my ability at all to always keep my charges at max or spam?

[late sapphire]

Every charge you gain at max charge is a waste

Usually i pop my shriek and in the few seconds after, i kill another few elites and am back up

If you're on high enough diff elites/specials/hordes should not be hard to find

[steady terrace]

cool, and is it worth going shriek with the soulblaze and then proccing warp siphon off killing people with soulblaze?

[upper sun]

"its all good"

[steady terrace]

very nice

[late sapphire]

I don't think i'd ever take the 10% on soulfire kill

You have three whole teammates also killing stuff too so the 4% in general is almost always better

[rigid sky]

It's a purgatus thing

[late sapphire]

I don't think i'd ever run purgatus*

[steady terrace]

what is purgutas

[late sapphire]

Anyways, if you're running bb then perilous combustion wildfire creeping flames is always solid

[upper sun]

fire staff

[late sapphire]

Particularly at higher diffs where you get groups of 10+ shotgunners and the like, just kill a handful of them and the rest + everything around them melts

[rigid sky]

Flamethrower staff

[late sapphire]

Purgatus applies soulfire so the 10% on soulfire would be ok, i guess

[steady terrace]

ah I don't think I have a good one yet, not lvl 30 so waiting for that beofre I look at gear

[rigid sky]

Wildfire's best use is Blaze trauma imo

Purgatus can work just fine at lower levels imo

[upper sun]

dont bother with crafting until you get to 30

[rigid sky]

I consider it and Surge to be beginner staves

[upper sun]

then wait an hour for the store to reset

[steady terrace]

yeh, psyker is my last lvl 30

[rigid sky]

They don't need good perks or blessings so much

[steady terrace]

and it is very fun

[celest hedge]

i'm trying to get the 40 kills in a single gaze and I keep getting games with gunlugs and assails that it's impossible

[rigid sky]

Trauma and voidstrike have more essential blessings

[upper sun]

ye you need nexus and flak most on surge and on malice/heresy the breakpoints are so loose

[late sapphire]

You can try mmt (many more try) to match into a round solo

[rigid sky]

Yeah, just take them both to at least green and give them +flak

[celest hedge]

also, is there something about the peril generation on gaze that I don't get? everytime I do get a little close to the 40, the generation builds so fast that it's impossible to out pace, even if i'm spamming a horde with a force sword with peril quelling and the skill for it and the right keystone

[late sapphire]

Outside of doing it solo the other options are to talk to your team and just trying a bunch

[upper sun]

heresy is so nice my trash gear loves it 😭

[late sapphire]

If you run a columnus you can easily stay at low peril while dumping into a crowd

The peril builds faster the more gaze stacks you have btw

[rigid sky]

Press F into a horde and melee tbh

[rigid sky]

Is it stacks or time?

[upper sun]

they're the same arent they?

[late sapphire]

Precog gives stacks iirc

Not sure how they interact actually

[celest hedge]

i know it builds up faster but I notice it sometimes going up way faster than normal when cleaving through a horde than if I pop ita nd the horde dies before I can get any kills

[rigid sky]

You can generate stacks faster another way I think but it might also increase the peril part, can't remember

[jovial juniper]

Would you recommend speed load for horde dumping purposes?

[celest hedge]

i'm running the other skill on that line mostly because I assume the reduced generatoin increases the duration

[rigid sky]

Not really

[late sapphire]

I think i just had the two damage on kill blessings

Dumdum is good too

[rigid sky]

Assail and melee are the main antihorde

Gun is more for specials, elites, massed shooters

And ranged combat in late SG phase

[late sapphire]

For the penance specifically, krago

[celest hedge]

but assail raises peril to use, and gun has good horde clear when spamming

[rigid sky]

Yeah, this is an example of the penance not encouraging good gameplay

[late sapphire]

I dunno i just took my gunpsy build into a random match hit f and held left click once

[rigid sky]

Playing to win means using assail under it sometimes

[celest hedge]

the columnus I brought just for the penance just gave dumdum3 and speedload4, nice at least

[rigid sky]

Playing for the penance means taking the worse modifier

[celest hedge]

that's also a problem outside of the penance

[rigid sky]

What, the SG design itself? I think it's really good

Nice way to make the psyker gun build feel unique

[celest hedge]

you take a gun for SG so you still have a range option that you can use during your ult because taking a staff would just knock you out of gaze super fast

[rigid sky]

Fatshark also just wants psykers to have an excuse to use guns

[late sapphire]

You take a gun for sg because blah blah, i take sg for my gun so i can pew pew

[celest hedge]

and the same applies to the blitz, it's just that assail is the best for it since it's fast unlike BB and cheap peril wise unlike smite

[rigid sky]

¿Porque no Los dos?

[late sapphire]

Jk i never use the gun it's ds only

[celest hedge]

I never really liked gaze but I can appreciate the toughness regen you can get from it and I did melt a beast of nurgle with a las pistol, but I never used it at all before the penances

[celest hedge]

finally got it, switching to colimus did it

[late sapphire]

It's that simple

[celest hedge]

i just ran recon las at first but switched to las pistol, but the raw volume of fire both outpaced my dueling sword and my teammates swinging

[flint pawn]

I don't know why I have Unyielding on this, should I change it, and what would I change it to?

[jovial juniper]

Flak?

[flint pawn]

Sounds fine to me, thanks

[jovial juniper]

Well, I'm not a purg specialist but at least you can change later

[flint pawn]

I only use it because sometimes I need to see flames, and this game is unique in the flames it provides

[little rapids]

what perks for ds4 with purg/assail? 🤔 unyielding, carapace, maniac, dont know which 2 seem best

[little rapids]

YES do flak

flak so good on purg

[little belfry]

Not too bad?

Some day I'll find Bloodletter IV I guess

[mellow prairie]

Anyone want to help me out with the Malleus Monstronum penance

[sweet lance]

I have also been trying to do that one sure

[mellow prairie]

it would be difficult for both of us to do it simultaneously but we could try multiple times

anyone else? 👀
I've heard that you just have to spam brain burst and dodge. Everyone else just takes care of ads until it hits 50%. Best done on beast of nurgle or demon host. Purportedly. Or so i"ve heard

[sweet lance]

Wouldnt it work if we both just brain bursted it to death?

[rare arrow]

what're the good psyker weapons these days? any changes in the last 4 months?

[mellow prairie]

Maybe. I'm not sure how to interpret the description, then.
Does it mean "You have to damage 50% of its health then kill it", like I thought, or your interpretation of "Someone has to brain burst it 50% but then you just have to kill it"

[sweet lance]

I always read it as "50% has to be done with brain burst then it doesnt matter"

[mellow prairie]

It's worth a try, if anyone else is interested. We need to do it in a private game, so, two more?

[sweet lance]

Well im down to do it if you end up doing it

[ripe obsidian]

I'm up for it as well, so long as you help me do it afterward

[ripe obsidian]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
This is updated for patch 17. It's a good reference.

[rare arrow]

Yea, seems like Pygex has kept it up to date

[ripe obsidian]

Since that other person appears to have left, if anyone wants to help me start a private game for Malleus Monstrum, I'd appreciate it. They made the Ogryn charge one public-able, but not Psyker. >:(

[sweet lance]

Im still down to do it

[ripe obsidian]

Sounds good. My friend code is in my handle here. Add me, and let's roll.

[sweet lance]

Alright

[rare arrow]

what are the good mods these days?

[mellow prairie]

I sent you a friend request if you are still looking for one more

[zinc star]

These are my go to QOL life mods but it's really up to what you want to run or if you want to make the game easier.

[rare arrow]

animation events so you use the base scoreboard?

[zinc star]

the basic one yes

Some people see it as toxic I have yet to see someone really flex it but then again I mostly play pub games where no one even talks besides saying gg

[rare arrow]

I need the scoreboard

but idc about seeing anyone elses stats

[cinder moon]

it’d be nice if there were a built in tracker to compare your match performance to a historic average

really don’t care about my team’s performance as long as they were carrying their weight, and don’t need a scoreboard to tell who’s lollygagging and sandbagging

[slim comet]

Lfg for Malleus Monstronum penance will help anyone who needs as well too

[lethal lagoon]

Comparing your own scores is pointless. If you do 600k in one game and 800k in one game, but don't look at other people it gives misleading results.

600k damage but your team did 1.2 mil, or 800k but your team did 2 mil

You clearly did better at 600k.

That said, only time I care about other people's stats other than as a benchmark vs mine, is when they are toxic.

I love seeing the toxic people doing the least damage.

Which is pretty much always the case.

[frail pasture]

Damge is such a dumb stat, it really is such a small part of being a good player

It also requires teammates to do less damage

or do dumb shit like run off alone and not move through the level quickly

Having a good team in auric maelstrom you often see everyone sub 500k damage (and even damage over the team) becuase they arent farming a meaningless stat

I run purg staff Psyker almost always, and im almost always top damage because im the horde clear, it dosent mean im some amazing player

[lethal lagoon]

Only time people do more damage than me is when they are better in every other way too

Better teamplay, faster disable fixes, never get downed or disabled, pick up more plasteel, etc.

Yeah, horde stats can skew things

[calm sapphire]

it just means your actually doing something thats all

[lethal lagoon]

But there are seperate damage stats for elites and specials, etc

[calm sapphire]

tho I tend to look at the elites n specials tab more

[lethal lagoon]

All that said, context definitely matters.

1st place might not be carrying, but 3rd place definitely isn't carrying.

3rd place might not be getting carried, but 4th place definitely has no right to backseat or complain about anyone else.

Which is why not having scoreboard innately in the game annoys me. You will reduce toxicty with a scoreboard as long as it's well designed.

[calm sapphire]

if damage numbers n stats are off the charts compared to others then yes u can kinda tell if they are carrying

[lethal lagoon]

Not nessarily. Could just be an easy round, and someone is try harding.

Anyways, context

[calm sapphire]

though carrying doesn't matter if the team is decent or great at working together

[calm sapphire]

I mean for maelstrom, u gotta try hard or else u die

[lethal lagoon]

Strongly disagree. Game is way too easy atm.

[frail pasture]

I mean at some point with good teams nobody is carrying

For example

Yeah I did 100k more then the second highest, but stats are so close its not a big deal

Id rather take someone that did shit damage but pressed voice of command at the right times, then someone pogging out on damage but playing as a solo player

[lethal lagoon]

I mean that's not the highest diff, so a little different from the current topic, but yeah.

[frail pasture]

Yeah I get the argument

I rarely see big differences in auric maelstrom tho

thats the only mode I play so thats as far as my opinion goes

[frail pasture]

Thats not even that big of a difference

[lethal lagoon]

You need to get ovenproof. So much better.

[frail pasture]

Yeah I do too

but I am so lazy

[calm sapphire]

yeah but im lazy too

[frail pasture]

Ill do it now cause im between matches

[calm sapphire]

I don't think oven shows your wep loadout on scoreboard?

[lethal lagoon]

You can use both boards together, that's what I do.

[frail pasture]

No it just has more stats

Like it shows who did elite damage, boss damage, special damage, horde damage

[lethal lagoon]

It's also more accurate for damage

[frail pasture]

Damage types etc..

[lethal lagoon]

The original scoreboard inflates damage

[cinder moon]

it'd be useful for seeing the real outlier matches. usually you can tell if a teammate is carrying or being dead weight anyway

[lethal lagoon]

I mean your average 4th place player thinks he's carrying/pulling their weight so meh

[frail pasture]

What mode do you play on?

[lethal lagoon]

This game really encourages main character syndrome, it's tough to tell.

auric t5 or auric mael, depends on what mael is on TV

[frail pasture]

Maybe its my server or whatever but I rarely encounter anyone toxic

and every once and awhile get the main character fighting alone syndrome

Most players are pretty team oriented imo

[cinder moon]

the most toxic players are stuck in malice/heresy

[frail pasture]

Im on NA West or NA East depending on time tho

[lethal lagoon]

It's not super common or anything, but every single time I've dealt with it they were by far the worst player.

[frail pasture]

Oh yeah thats true

[calm sapphire]

ofc but alot of ppl are farming penances so they are handicapping themselves to play a certain way

[frail pasture]

The best players play a team game like a team

[lethal lagoon]

And of course they never knew that, because as I said, they need to add scoreboard in the game.

[frail pasture]

Loner penance rn 😐

[lethal lagoon]

I can't bring myself to play lower diffs for penance farming

I'd rather just play a different game

[frail pasture]

Yeah I dont penance farm at all

I just play the game and get what comes

I also exclusviely play Psyker so im already locked out of a bunch unless I wanna switch

[calm sapphire]

just a slog to grind them fast

[cinder moon]

atonement is not yet yours, psyker

[calm sapphire]

Idk but for me, psyker is really stronk when my brain is actually functioning. I can't be brain ded like an ogryn and ignore my peril while I get distracted by enemies

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

EP Smite And/Or Surge Warp charges

Brain off Brr on

#1158835513789272126 message

I don't know what they were thinking buffing EP smite, but it was easy mode before then

[calm sapphire]

EP smite that good?

[lethal lagoon]

8 Seconds to kill 50+ targets that are as strong or weaker than a rager?

It's wild

Basically all that crossover that isn't an Ogryn is dead.

I don't remember if it kills maulers, but the perilous combustion probably will

And there's another thing, the constant smite ticks are great for triggering PC and pysch aura

That's my alt psyker btw, in case you are wondering about the true level

[calm sapphire]

wow huge buff

in a mael rn

[lethal lagoon]

It did about 80% of their HP before, it wasn't that weak.

But the buff made it wild

[cinder moon]

EP smite is hilarious now

[lethal lagoon]

What's hilarious is people still run it with bubble and probably have no idea how good it is

[cinder moon]

flaming vent at >85% peril and you keep smiting

but now everything is on fire

[lethal lagoon]

Well it always did that

That's why smite bubble is always terrible

[calm sapphire]

lots of ppl saide it was meh

[cinder moon]

people always underestimated EP smite

but now it's just flat out nuts

[lethal lagoon]

EP smite even pre patch trivialized a lot of the game.

Smite is just super mid without shriek

Is the problem

[cinder moon]

yeah, especially since 1 cast removes 1 stack of EP

and if you don't have an easy way of getting back stacks and have to cast a bunch of times, then you might as well not be running EP

[lethal lagoon]

You can get some crazy long smite casts with pysch aura

[cinder moon]

yeah, i've had a few that were over 30s

[lethal lagoon]

But you still really need shriek for that

[cinder moon]

hunting grounds makes long casts pretty common

[lethal lagoon]

EP smite is probably also the one time Battle Med is a great talent

[calm sapphire]

I still miss when ep smite gave u unlimited power

jk

[lethal lagoon]

[paper lily]

lotta ppl don't even play smite optimally anyway

not quelling with staff for instance

[lethal lagoon]

I love how the ability with the lowest skill cap has by far the most people using it wrong.

[paper lily]

that award might go to lacerate knife ppl

[plucky flax]

Tru I use it on my zealot

[paper lily]

if i play ep smite i actively look for nurgle blessing maelstroms just to keep it interesting

[plucky flax]

Very op

[wet belfry]

Just hide the combat knives from zealot chat

They do not need to know.

[plucky flax]

Zealot has a bunch of bleed synergy talents yet their chat hate bleed

[calm sapphire]

me mashing my talents to fit my penance grind while doing maelstrom

[strong gulch]

Voidstrike + SG + DD

[wet belfry]

When i see literary every single person run lacerate + uncanny on combat knife and do well im not going to care what zealot chat says.

Results in games are more interesting than hypothetical data tables.

[plucky flax]

[wet belfry]

also unrelated but fuck mac OS

They wont allow me to remove chess from my computer.

Its a computer solely for programming and it has shit like chess, image capture, photos, music, siri.

The amount of bloat is ridiclous

atleast windows allows the bloat to be removed.

Mac also has a hostile angle in terms of modifying their computers themselves.

[lethal lagoon]

Me yelling at the psyker to just use your staff to kill the crushers

[wet belfry]

Its hard to install more storage ontop of the computer without external storage.

[rigid sky]

Also gunker

[radiant frigate]

was i baited into putting flesh tearer on

[rigid sky]

I still say it's because knife is so strong you can get by with a purple one with Uncanny

[swift moss]

what should be the stat priority on surge staves?

i just rolled a 80% damge/warp res, 77% quell speed, 79% charge but 61% crit

[radiant frigate]

is it that strong

[rigid sky]

Idk I suck with it

Tbh I should just not talk about the knife lmao

[radiant frigate]

i feel like a lot of its anti-boss performance relies on the bleed

[radiant frigate]

sad

[swift moss]

i do have another 77% dmg, 73% quell spd, 80% crit/ charge rate and 56% warp res

and what blessings/perks should I pursue on a surge staff at that? I currently have warp flurry/warp nexus, dmg against maniacs and carapace

[cosmic sigil]

i don't mind the smite psyker blocking 3 crushers while i am reloading my bolter tbh

[patent wing]

did any of you guys play the silo cluster auric mael last night? i couldnt finish it for 1 hour lol never happened to me before

i mean ok i was playing with some friends that were new to the game but how i cant carry em

[plucky flax]

RIP crit chance.

[cosmic sigil]

i had a bunch of hard runs yesterday

[plucky flax]

40 mins of fun

[cosmic sigil]

the gas bombers were a PITA

[patent wing]

couldnt make it to the first med station in 90% xdddd

the open field is to hard with 3 fresh 30s

[cosmic sigil]

i died every time due to gas + snipers lol

[patent wing]

yeah same

[strong gulch]

The Atheneum up in the pins has crit bonus as the dump stat. I personally prefer a higher crit bonus.

[cosmic sigil]

silo cluster beginning is hell

first you have the stairs and maybe a million shooters

[plucky flax]

It's not dump stat at all it's 2nd most important after damage.

It gives bonus to crit chance AND crit damage.

[cosmic sigil]

plus specialists coming to fuck you up if you're not quick enough

after that you may have a boss

[patent wing]

i just remember that the only thing that changed was the pox gas so maybe its that

[cosmic sigil]

if it's a cspawn, well good luck

[patent wing]

yeah but still, cant remember that i ever had huge problems there.

[strong gulch]

The crit chance is why I don't dump crit bonus. Surge staff lives and dies by crits.

[cosmic sigil]

because nobody remembers the way to come back to the safish part of the map

[patent wing]

you need a good team now with the gas

[plucky flax]

I think the scaling is even 10~15%. So high crit surge you get extra 5 crit chance or around there.

[cosmic sigil]

agree

[plucky flax]

That's a whole free perk.

[patent wing]

no room to kite

[patent wing]

you mean if you drop down and need to go over the bridge to get back up?

[strong gulch]

free perk or free talent node

[cosmic sigil]

yes there is like a coursive on the left

[patent wing]

feel like nobody knows that yeah

[cosmic sigil]

sorry right

[plucky flax]

This was my silo cluster maelstrom last night. About 7 different people left when they went down. Xd

Done in 34 mins though so not too bad.

It was dogs and muties train modifier.

[patent wing]

vet doesnt count bro thats easy mode xx 💀

[cosmic sigil]

it's zealot

[plucky flax]

I played zealot.

[patent wing]

ah lol yeah mb

[plucky flax]

Vet is ez though tbf.

Just press f and shout.

[patent wing]

antax really playabled huh

[plucky flax]

Yeah both antax and rashad gud.

Antax better horde clear and push attack rashad better single target damage.

[rigid sky]

Lmao what was he on

[strong gulch]

I'm sure there is/ are reason(s) based on data, but I refuse to dump crit bonus.

[lethal lagoon]

That's about a perfect stat distribution.

[strong gulch]

Sad times. I ate all of the butter mints.

[lethal lagoon]

I'd personally prefer 70 warp and 70 crit, but I'd definitely make that staff orange.

[strong gulch]

For sure roll it.

[patent wing]

the mael last night has shown that any staff that cant knock 5 crushers down is bad

[strong gulch]

Especially given how many weapons get bricked.

[patent wing]

trauma literally only playble staff

i mean purge brain burst WOULD be playable if fking brainburst would only target specialists and elites

they should swap out the kinetic flayer for that feature

i would even pay two points to get it

[lethal lagoon]

Crit's additive with itself, so the more crit you have the less value there is in getting more

And psyker, plus nexus, plus surge, more crit from the bonus is less impactful % wise

[patent wing]

and dont tell me i can melee 6 crushers lined up thats impossible (if you cant hop backwards)

[lethal lagoon]

Like 10% crit increases your DPS by 10%(assuming 100% crit damage)
10% more crit increases your DPS by 9%

Plus overkill in this game, and lower crit damage, decreases the actual DPS increase by a lot

[strong gulch]

Right right. I remember this discussion now.

[plucky flax]

Yeah but it's when you hit hard targets.

Like crushers/ogryns/monsters.

[lethal lagoon]

That having optimal warp res and quelling matters even more to perfectly edge and maintain high crit while fighting dangerous targets

right

Good point

How much crit chance is 60 to 80 anyways

Or rather 60-70, because having any other stat at 60 isn't worth it in my books

[cinder moon]

peril edgers when their staff has warp resist dump stat

[plucky flax]

All stats are good on surge.

[lethal lagoon]

Surge Staff Crit Rates Based on Critical Bonus:
80: 21.0%
70. 19.0%
60: 17.0%

[plucky flax]

Need 100% all.

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

So 100% would give 25% crit chance.

That's huge.

[arctic rampart]

What's the least stupid/painful/boring way to farm the smite kills penance?

[lethal lagoon]

It only takes 2 games

no need for farming

[plucky flax]

Equip smite equip ep.

Just spam it.

[arctic rampart]

lol

[strong gulch]

Me when I tried to cope with 45% warp resist blaze trauma.

[plucky flax]

Literally. Xd

[cinder moon]

holy moly

[strong gulch]

spicy

[cinder moon]

i like my surge staff, even if it has carapace

hm, when did i change flak to maniac

[patent wing]

carapace on surge is good idk what you are talking about

literally the reason i bring it to the table are crushers

[cinder moon]

like, it's not bad against crushers

but i'd rather have elite

[lethal lagoon]

Carpace on Surge is great if you are running EP Smite

[cinder moon]

i shouldn't complain, this has been my main surge staff since like, september of last year

[lethal lagoon]

Otherwise it's sub-optimal

[patent wing]

u dont play flak bro u are forbidden to talk x)

[cinder moon]

i do run it with EP smite, full zap loadout is fun

[patent wing]

its a federal crime to play surge without flak

[lethal lagoon]

Crushers are going to be the main target for Surge on EP smite, along with unyielding.

I have an unyielding carpace surge actually I was testing out for melee maels. I should run it for EP smite
I stopped using after like 1 try on melee maels cause surge on melee maels is cringe.

[cinder moon]

the last pic i took of it i had flak on it, so idk when i changed

[lethal lagoon]

Tier 3 Flurry shows your RNG privlege

[cinder moon]

i get wildly lucky with some things, then it takes me >200 trauma staffs to get nexus 4

[patent wing]

at some i point i stop rolling and wait for melk

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-patiently-waiting-for-you-waiting-on-you-gif-15489516379864441176

waiting for non-trash melk 😭

[patent wing]

btw does any1 knows how many attacks one catachan parry can counter

i think just one right

[paper lily]

i would imagine if u got hit multiple times in the same game frame u would parry all those attacks

but the instances that would happen would be fairly rare

[plucky flax]

3 grims?

[patent wing]

yeah idk last game i was cornered by 3 crushers and survived with parry for 1 min

[cinder moon]

i've always wondered if there were more than 2 grims per level

did someone dc and come back?

[strong gulch]

I had a game where it didn't count the grim up in the corner. 🙃

[plucky flax]

Didn't count for contract?

[strong gulch]

I don't remember.

[patent wing]

the zealots are still asleep, @plucky flax what you are agent chaos xd

(just wanted to ask about rampage momentum evis XV)

[plucky flax]

If you feel the need for toughness regen.

Personally I'd go rampage shred.

And play chastise spam.

[gilded marten]

man .-.

[plucky flax]

Spamming chastise is your toughness regen.

[patent wing]

why not both

tankier than ogryn

[dim parrot]

because shred for the crits and also more chastise

[paper lily]

shred perfect strike

[strong gulch]

Anyone got a mic recommendation?

[patent wing]

what price range

auna 900b if budget

[strong gulch]

Not more that like $25 usd. So not that much. Just a decent mic for gaming. Not trying to set up a podcast.

To add context. I've been using a Microsoft LifeCam HD-3000 as my mic. It came out over a decade ago. 💀

[patent wing]

Auna is like 30-40 depending

i use it without headphones even

[plucky flax]

I'd go for a cheap quality one like blue snowball.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blue-Microphones-Snowball-Ice-Microphone/dp/B006DIA77E

I think it's cheap in US.

[lethal lagoon]

Go for the old classic, never fails

[plucky flax]

I bought a cheap amazon chinese mic and the quality is pretty bad.

[lethal lagoon]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003OAE79S?asc_source=01HFY6QA7Q8N1TT2Z879WGSZ46&tag=snx79-20

"Provides crisp and clear voice communication"

I have a 50 dollar stand mic because I wanted to be able to not have headphones on

it doesn't work at all so I now have $50 laying in the corner of my room

[dim parrot]

classic

why not refund?

[patent wing]

the mutant just threw me right under the overhead the moment it came down god damn goated

[lethal lagoon]

I don't refund anything under $100 or if it really pisses me off cause I'm way too lazy to physically return to an amazon center.

[plucky flax]

It's 55 pounds in UK but 50 dollars in US.

Logitech is sus.

[dim parrot]

you're so real for that

[strong gulch]

Thanks for the mic recs.

[plucky flax]

[dim parrot]

cause I would do the same exact thing

[lethal lagoon]

Amazon return policy literally kept alive by heroes like us

[lethal lagoon]

Don't you guys have crazy VAT taxes for imported tech?

$54 Euros even seems a bit cheap

[plucky flax]

Yeah 20%

Gpu here costs the same. So £1.8k or $1.8k

Go to America buy a pc and bring it back.

[lethal lagoon]

That's about 20%, no?

More like 10% it seems

[lethal lagoon]

Wouldn't you have to pay 20% tax if you did that

[plucky flax]

I'm not an economist.

[lethal lagoon]

I found something that says GPUs are excempt from VAT

So nvidia is just scamming you with 1.8k euros

Too bad we have after-sale taxes here

So maybe not scam

[plucky flax]

Cars are really expensive here too. A Toyota corolla new is like £35k. You can get a camry there for $35k.

[lethal lagoon]

I haven't bought a car in forever.

23k for a corolla it says.

That's the car I bought ~10~ years ago, it was like 16k then.

Not that bad all things considered.

[plucky flax]

Toyota scamming UK people.

[lethal lagoon]

I'm surprised cars are so expensive there, cause Car dealerships are pure scams in the U.S.

[patent wing]

if u fly to USA and buy stuff to take it over its tax free in usa but VAT has to be payed as import VAT in uk afaik

[lethal lagoon]

Not if you lie

[patent wing]

but the seller still cant sell it without because he has no proof xd

you had to pay twice in the end if youd be correct

xd

[wind spruce]

Got auric storm survivor on three consecutive hab dreykos 🥴

[plucky flax]

Cars got really expensive during covid. Covid ends but they keep the high price for more profit.

[lethal lagoon]

Used car market went crazy

Old corollas funny enough were selling for borderline new prices.

[plucky flax]

Corolla starting from 30k and 31k for the lowest trim

We also don't have corolla saloon here. But I think you don't have the estate.

37.3k for a prius D:

[lethal lagoon]

So probably like 25k realistical from the MESSURP

I have no idea if it's a hybrid though

I'd assume they'd all be hybrids?

[plucky flax]

Only hybrid in uk

I think toyota move to hybrid only now.

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, then that explains the price difference

Hybrids are more expensive, yeah?

Even with the tax break

Nvm, it seems like it's the same price based on a regular corolla

We just don't have hybrid hatchbacks in the US

[plucky flax]

I want a lexus es.

[lethal lagoon]

That's not so bad, cheapest model though

[plucky flax]

300h

The hybrid one

It's starting from 47k uk

[lethal lagoon]

Oh 44k here

So basically the same

Actually, I'm getting 51k when I look up the actual car for sale

[plucky flax]

Dealer markup

[lethal lagoon]

The corollas wern't marked up

Probably just a rare car here

[manic halo]

psyker players give me ur strongest gunker builds

I can take them

https://tenor.com/bNED8.gif

[lethal lagoon]

#1158835513789272126 message

I think this was the first one I ever used

I mean dedicated gunker, not just gun adjcent.

[manic halo]

thsnk

[lethal lagoon]

Oh wait nvm, I ran revolver a lot.

Revolver blends the classes together

[manic halo]

rev is annoying because you sometimes can't get quick gaze stacks

[lethal lagoon]

This goes well with revolver, but it's an EP smite build that's meant to be used with Surge staff.

Because if you aren't going double lightning, you are just a weirdo

[wind spruce]

This better with DD buff

[lethal lagoon]

Ze 'Mmo ECUNan ME! IZZZ mulch butter EeePee Assker.

Playing a gun DD build always makes me remeber just how much I hate picking up ammo.

[rigid sky]

This is the one. Consider flexing which path of DD you take depending on your own comfort, and consider flexing the 15 toughness node to warp replenishment or warp speed.

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah DD is probably better

[rigid sky]

Apart from that the rest is all essential imo. I guess maybe consider flexing to CDR aura too, but I would heavily advise keeping the crit aura

Ironically gun psyker is like the one psyker where I would be more interested in taking the elite damage aura but it's inaccessible

(And crit is probably better anyway)

...I guess it's OK for Surge too

[lethal lagoon]

Surge staff? That's probably the last one you want crit aura on

Surge blessing on Voidstrike... still questionable. Depends on how bad your aim is.

[rigid sky]

I meant elite aura

[lethal lagoon]

Ah

[rigid sky]

It's bad

Just looking at where it can be least bad

Because penance

I think I managed to wedge it into my EP Surge/smite build in the end

[wind spruce]

Voidstrike if ur going warp charges over DD maybe

Might hit some breakpoints

[rigid sky]

Yeah, but if I have even the smallest excuse to take DD I'm taking DD :D

[wind spruce]

A sibling after my own heart

[marble crater]

I can fix her...

[lethal lagoon]

Low key I'd try anyways, just for the meme

[marble crater]

I will try, I have plenty of plasteel

Could have been worse

[strong gulch]

True.

[marble crater]

It's better than my current rending trauma (which I never use) so worst case I just replace it, but hope is that the crafting update will save it

[plucky flax]

Rending trauma

[thick tiger]

Are guns worth using for Psykers without a specific build? I went for Assail, Seer's Presence and spherical telekine shield, currently level 18

[marble crater]

I might use rending trauma to finish the last few penances, shield and DD... Right now I have been using purgatus for it and it's getting annoying

Guns are a lot better than staves while leveling