I find I have trouble keeping blazing piety uptime when I take knife, at least when I go shroudfield
#psyker-class
upper sun
unarmored is recommended for this for some reason
upper sun
rigid sky
Presume it is good for horde clear
rigid sky
You know the one thing the ogrynomicon lacks is combo descriptions
Generally yeah, 4 is supreme
royal ibex
this is not bad tbh
i got a real good 550 shield im trying to stop using, shovels can only go so far though
upper sun
ye
rigid sky
It's got the most complete moveset and deals with armour the best
Or well
The least badly I guess
upper sun
i got a real good 550 shield im trying to stop using, shovels can only go so far...
shovel is so good for rager duals
royal ibex
shovel is so good for rager duals
true that
rigid sky
i got a real good 550 shield im trying to stop using, shovels can only go so far...
Shovel 5 is the best dude
upper sun
tbh shield is good for that too
royal ibex
shields fun
i enjoy smacking the shit out of enemies with its heavy, friends find it way too clunky and slow fo their tastes
upper sun
my biggest issue with ogryn is that underhanded rocks require two button presses
rigid sky
You gotta build it right
If you cook just right the shield can 1-shot any 4 trash enemies at once
royal ibex
mind you ever since ff15's shield combat where you use it as a gauntlet ive been trying 'and failing' to find a game that replicates it
upper sun
overhand? press and release. underhand? PRSS HOLD PRESS
hate that shit so much its unreal
rigid sky
Every swing.
And block cancel H1 spam is great on elites
But idk
Shield bores me too much for me to get good with it lol
royal ibex
ive just been finding it more enjoyable to play veteran and more recently psyker more than the other 2 classes lmao
marble crater
Shovel 5 is the best dude
Any recommendations? 
rigid sky
Any recommendations? <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Check the ogrynomicon but that looks good
upper sun
ye
rigid sky
I just use what they recommend
And run it with heavy hitter and loyal protector
Seriously the taunt sets you up a lot better than bullrush with the shovel for some reason
Easy to combo into a bendy bonk when elites come around
Kill 4 Crushers in one bendy bonk sometimes
I had it happen twice so far
royal ibex
incredible
marble crater
I enjoy them both, taunt is nice for that trapper you can hear but not reach, taunt and stagger them
rigid sky
I actually prefer charge on my shield for some reason
royal ibex
i remember when i was playing ogryn a lot id run missions where id use my gun as little as possible and just rely on latrine shovel and rocks. was great fun just beaning snipers with a piece of the wall
rigid sky
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2521528200622778485/1C913BB7F5B8F4882...
That's the old shovel without the folding
I heard it's really good now too
upper sun
oh shit
rigid sky
But come on, the Crusher oneshots :D
royal ibex
you want crowd control or youw ant crusher deletion 
rigid sky
I think Thrust Bromentum is promoted more over Thundrous for the mark 5
rigid sky
you want crowd control or youw ant crusher deletion <:loregryn:10365806747417313...
Tbh 5 does both
upper sun
to be fair
rigid sky
LOVELY horizontal heavies
upper sun
thrust and bromom is good on everything
rigid sky
thrust and bromom is good on everything
Not as favoured on combat axes (Thrust that is, bromentum is king)
And Thrust is like a third best blessing on cleavers
royal ibex
psyker related question, if i wanted to get a decent duelling sword, whats the rioll to go for 'and i cant even remember if theres mroe than 1 of them'
upper sun
And Thrust is like a third best blessing on cleavers
eh it stacks a bit slower on cleavers
90% of other weapons even if you do a heavy attack as soon as possible you get 1 thrust stacj
cleavers stack it a bit slower for some reaosn
marble crater
psyker related question, if i wanted to get a decent duelling sword, whats the r...
Mk4 with uncanny, shred/rampage, Maniac, Unyielding 
rigid sky
Mk4 with uncanny, shred/rampage, Maniac, Unyielding <:hmmnoted:95916977795434502...
Carapace also an option
upper sun
ye
rigid sky
I take Carapace on it, since my gunker is the only spec I have using it
marble crater
Oh right, I wanted to see if I can change Unyielding to carapace on mine
rigid sky
And Crushers are the only thing I'm not shooting at
Yeah, if you are gunker don't get unyielding on it imo, take carapace/maniac
marble crater
I had some stressful missions, brain not braining right
rigid sky
If you aren't then unyielding is probably good
Since psykers otherwise struggle on boss dps
marble crater
Or cara instead of Unyielding, as the others said
royal ibex
bet. just wanna open up my options a bit. also trying to get a funny knife roll like with veteran since the peril to block skill makes it kind of funny
rigid sky
It just depends on what ranged you pick with it tbh, psykers have to shape their melee to fit around their build
cinder moon
Shield bores me too much for me to get good with it lol
what's better than this
rigid sky
bet. just wanna open up my options a bit. also trying to get a funny knife roll ...
I see a few using knife 6
royal ibex
I see a few using knife 6
new knife fucks. i got a semi decent one on vet i pair witht he bleed on hit and it does way more work than it should
rigid sky
what's better than this
You fools, you could be comparing rocks together
marble crater
Sad, Unyielding is locked on mine
royal ibex
what's better than this
brute to brute communication. brute to brute conversation
alright back to remnant
radiant frigate
I find I have trouble keeping blazing piety uptime when I take knife, at least w...
really now
even when every crit refreshes it?
with like 60% crit rate?
upper galleon
yea are you taking the left side? right side blazing piety option is way better
marble crater
Do it
marble crater
Same, but shield and gauntlet or rumbler works great too
prime elk
game really wants me to play ogryn
Don’t do it
cinder moon
blastoom + shield is a great pairing
upper sun
eh i dont wanna go nades i want a ranged weapon that pairs well with rock
rigid sky
with like 60% crit rate?
I think I disengage too much maybe
limpid lodge
Question did they change something about insta death with peril? Ive never had a problem with it until today I used to be able to ride high peril no problem. Today however ive killed myself 3 times like not even being downed from high peril I just exploded into nothing. So either i got rusty or they changed something im not aware of
marble crater
They didn't change anything in the 6 or 7 months I have been playing
limpid lodge
ok so i just got rusty then
marble crater
I guess so
radiant frigate
I think I disengage too much maybe
most likely
all i can say is that after doing the loner/shroudfield penances i find it hard to return to Normal Zealot
you know, proper zealotry with a 2h chainsword
wind spruce
Question did they change something about insta death with peril? Ive never had ...
I had a weird bug-out of my peril the other day where I just exploded without getting the ~3 seconds of warning
Didn't get disabled or anything, either
marble crater
That's not good
queen fog
what's better than this
so beautiful 
inner pilot
using my warp powers (12 gauge) to smite the heretics (home invaders)
royal ibex
using my warp powers (12 gauge) to smite the heretics (home invaders)
just as Our Beloved intended.
limpid lodge
Didn't get disabled or anything, either
ya thats been happening to me today like im just exploding but not being at max peril its possibly just lag tho
royal ibex
only time that happened to me was yesterday when i exploded after my scriers ran out, im guessing maybe i hit the push with force sword but legit couldnt say lmao
tbh was a horde happening so probably hit it in a panic
also found out with the DD bug where it doesnt show stacks is a visual bug, spose the UI just has so many buffs to keep track of some games it justd ecides 'nah you dont need to know your keystone number thats fine'
jovial juniper
I did notice that playing with left aura psykers hide some icons
Such as smoke, Weapon Specialist
Heavy hitter
fresh reef
@plucky flax you, specifically
as a blaze trauma enjoyer, how do you feel about purgatus?
potent echo
Purgatus bad
wet belfry
purgatus veri bed.
half iron
purgatus “people” when i show them good staffs like the stub
idle plover
What is consensus with mk5 duelling saber?
cosmic sigil
What is consensus with mk5 duelling saber?
Best mobility, worst dmg (compared to ds4 at least)
shadow quail
is it still in fashion to cast smite at everything?
potent echo
Yesn't
zinc phoenix
What is consensus with mk5 duelling saber?
Excellent for yeeting yourself off cliffs with dodges that go super hard
pearl lion
Which is the best blitz for doing the EP penance? Assail?
mystic burrow
Which is the best blitz for doing the EP penance? Assail?
brain burst
EP brainburst one shots many things, which guarantees you getting 1 point of progress
pair with overpowering souls which guarantees EP stacks on elite kills, and you'll start making good progress
pearl lion
Cool ty
Any thoughts on best staves, outside of Smite+Surge atm?
Seems like Trauma is in a good place, but I think thats the one type I dont have a good roll of
mystic burrow
voidstrike/surge with brainburst and kinetic flayer
well, i actually dont like surge all that much despite using it a lot, since i need to use venting shriek to clear hordes
but voidstrike tho, it can deal everything
thorn cedar
ive been doin it with trauma
mystic burrow
besides mass carapace
mystic burrow
he prays hard
wet belfry
Any thoughts on best staves, outside of Smite+Surge atm?
Voidstrike, trauma are the contenders for best staffs
Both of them heavyily outperform purgatus, surge mainly due to just genuinely being more versatile.
A surge cant deal with hordes, heavyily struggles in dealing with multiple elites at the same time.
A trauma will never have that problem.
grim inlet
Voidstrike, trauma are the contenders for best staffs
100%
wet belfry
The compensation even then that trauma for example takes in a lack of single target damage isn’t even that huge especially with good LMB usage.
grim inlet
voidstrike and trauma are built different
wet belfry
Purgatus is legit just the opposite in being strong aoe damage with shit single target in comparison to surge
The CC also is underwhelming compared to the other staffs.
grim inlet
my favorites in order are
trauma>void>purg>surge
fresh reef
purgatus relies on the rest of your build to fill in the gaps, as does surge usually
trauma and void just don't have those gaps, generally speaking
wet belfry
Not having the gaps tend to genuinely lead to stronger builds anyways.
It means less talent point investment in fixing the weaknesses.
Ex a purgatus user is going to seriously need to consider how to get single target damage.
fresh reef
I removed the creeping flames from shriek, put it into a staff, and now I main brain burst
my brain rot is simply too apartment complex
grim inlet
with my trauma i don't even have any talents at the top really. i have the toughness on peril generated, then 10% chance to quel, then toughness to brainburst
mystic burrow
with my trauma i don't even have any talents at the top really. i have the tough...
what about increased warp damage on crit
didnt take that one?
wet belfry
Actually having to run EP on anything is a good way to ruin a strong psyker build.
Muh points going to blitz abilities 
strong gulch
Feck. I forgor that I gambled away all of my ordos.
Time to sell things. I got bad ideas to try.
royal ibex
melk had this laspistol sitting around, after changing some of the stats around, how your eckon thisl hold up till i find a better one?
'might change flak to crit honestly
strong gulch
If you can keep it on your target, then it'll last awhile. At the very least, you got a blessing to feed to hadron.
royal ibex
i got a similar one that ive been using for a while just as the original laspistol
if i can get a better stat roll on it i will but same time im chasing stability and 5 extra total ammo in a magazine, ill be fine
would be nice to see 200 damage though lmao
royal ibex
should really invest in force staffs, play psyker but usually just ignore staffs and go full guns lmao
grim inlet
i go warp expenditure, to battle medalion, 15 toughness, to brainburst, then i go across to prescience, empathatic evasion to ranged damage, to shield then warp siphon
grim inlet
should really invest in force staffs, play psyker but usually just ignore staffs...
i never tried gun psyker
unkempt hare
Been trying to complete some of the new penances and there's two that really bug me, the one for disrupt destiny and the one for telekine shield
grim inlet
telekine shield penance is ridiculous lol
unkempt hare
I've been trying to learn gun psyker but I'm having a hard time, I'm rusty and have some bad habits
royal ibex
i never tried gun psyker
its more entertaining than it looks. got people runnign full warp magic and im here going 'fuck it every game is destiny 2 warlock'
unkempt hare
Disrupt destiny just feels really hard to keep up
Like at a decent amount of stacks
royal ibex
Disrupt destiny just feels really hard to keep up
be thankful its not old DD, 30 seconds and then you lose all your stacks
plus it didnt used to reliably mark targets
unkempt hare
Yeah, that's good, they slowly drop off just like new warp charges
royal ibex
so youd be going for 85% of the mission hoping whatever you hit was thge marked target since it bugged out for the 49th time
now the only real issue i have with it is the game will decide to not show your stacks on the buff bar
plucky flax
<@150967101836886016> you, specifically
as a blaze trauma enjoyer, how do you fe...
No meme it's outclassed by blaze trauma but its very easy to play.
unkempt hare
The peril build on gun psyker has been a bit scary at times
fresh reef
No meme it's outclassed by blaze trauma but its very easy to play.
Very chill deletion of Maulers
royal ibex
its a funny thing to see
unkempt hare
Hey would be a great way to do out with a bang if you havent
royal ibex
you'l get it, just takes some playing around and hoping you dont fatfinger assail or force sword push
unkempt hare
Assail too, proc peril and one more to seal it
fresh reef
I've just learned to not use warp attacks while in Scrier's
fresh reef
Scrier's benefits non-warp weapons the most anyhow
royal ibex
i gotta try get a funny roll on the catachan knife
strong gulch
I blew up trying a thing. Now it's time to sit for a long time. Maybe I can think about that I did.
Which was surge + transfer peril on void with SG.
near wyvern
5 auric maelstroms in a row without dying
analog turtle
Arguably best stats on Mk 4 for crit build? Melee crit chance and damage?
Or does stam serve us better?
upper galleon
Arguably best stats on Mk 4 for crit build? Melee crit chance and damage?
neither and neitehr stam
take maniac and unyielding
imo flak and carapace and even elites are fine too
analog turtle
But base stats on the sword?
Oh damage against
So out of the 4, which? maniac priority?
upper galleon
the first 2 i listed are ranked most important
probably maniac for the reliable mutie and rager kills
strong gulch
Nice. Got perilous focus. 
terse saffron
melk ran out of junk to sell holy shit
royal ibex
Nice. Got perilous focus. <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
nice. got that yesterday after swapping over one of the talents for it 'went with peril generation reduction instead of finesse and then got it first activation on the first carnival map'
strong gulch
melk ran out of junk to sell holy shit
WTF. I'm honestly shocked and how not garbage these are. 👀 
royal ibex
also goddamn melk finally decided to sell quality
strong gulch
nice. got that yesterday after swapping over one of the talents for it 'went wit...
Ooh first carnival map sounds like a good map to do it on.
royal ibex
i love waiting 5 minutes in place for an event in remnant
terse saffron
WTF. I'm honestly shocked and how not garbage these are. 👀 <:pogryn:96197770153...
well i just didnt have any non-🧱 surge and wanted to finally rip out US4
plucky flax
The start of relay station is a good area to do this. Usually a horde spawns in these long halls.
I got it at 4% peril with battle med. Xd
strong gulch
For anyone farming for the Perilous Focus penance. It did it on the Silo Cluster map with voidstike. I had transfer peril as a blessing and battle meditation as a talent to help pad out my time.
radiant frigate
all these elaborate setups and i just saw a poxwalker horde, pressed f and then m1 with illisi
with reality anchor and battle meditation but still
strong gulch
burster for the win
upper sun
all these elaborate setups and i just saw a poxwalker horde, pressed f and then ...
tried that
got 25
team jumped the rest
radiant frigate
team jumped the rest
i had the fortune of looking around and not seeing a teammate anywhere in sight
a zealot did manage to make it to the horde but i already clicked most of them
upper sun
every time i wanna do a penance i get good(bad)team mates
hazy apex
earnest token
doe's anyone know if psykers will have more than 4 staff to choose in the future?
strong gulch
I hope so. We've been hungry for new staves forever.
pearl lion
Left or right for penance?
plucky flax
It's up to you. I am noob so I use the longer duration.
pearl lion
Cool that's what I was leaning towards
plucky flax
It'd not take the middle node too.
Save you a point.
The toughness regen up top should be plenty.
mystic burrow
middle is quell peril no?
pearl lion
Its quell, not toughness
mystic burrow
but yea, dont need it
plucky flax
Okay I mistook it for ep.
I guess if you want free quell.
I don't think it's good though. 
mystic burrow
also with new disrupt destiny, left side is basically cooked
pearl lion
Yeah I was scratching my head how to get it
strong gulch
Still tho, it's a chance on IF you kill the DD target.
pearl lion
That extra point let me get it
ornate hamlet
What do I do with this?
mystic burrow
u def want to replace one of 2 blessings with bromentum
psyker lacks the attack speed to clear hordes without bromentum using a tac axe
plucky flax
Decimator to bm and crit chance to some damage perk.
Why tac axe on psyker though it's already sorta ass on zealot can make good use of it. 
mystic burrow
Why tac axe on psyker though it's already sorta ass on zealot can make good use ...
just for fun i reckon
radiant frigate
can tac axes even trigger it reliably
late yew
alright, time to update all mods
ornate hamlet
Gun Psyker
mystic burrow
Gun Psyker
yep, disrupt destiny high finesse damage on a crit weapon
i'd use a knife instead tho
late yew
Vortex now supports darktide?
mystic burrow
cuz at the very least, knife can slay beefier targets faster
whilst with tac axe, u're mediocre in both horde clear and killing beefier targets
ornate hamlet
Ah shit I forgot I had this lmao
plucky flax
Always take bm with axes.
mystic burrow
headtaker to Bm
plucky flax
Big head chop.
late yew
Using anything but force swords as psyker is heresy
ornate hamlet
I dont have BM 😦
mystic burrow
get 1
plucky flax
But again combat axe is so freaking slow on psyker.
mystic burrow
even a t1 bm is sufficient
plucky flax
I can't use it.
ornate hamlet
t1 really7?
mystic burrow
t1 really7?
yea
trust me the weakspot dmg is negligeble
if i spelt it correctly
which i doubt
late yew
Vortex now supports darktide?
^
mystic burrow
thanks
late yew
mystic burrow
Oh.
well good for u then
and that's heavy atk numbers
u dont really heavy atk with combat axe unless its on ogryns or maulers
or monstrosities
ornate hamlet
No, those were the light attacks.
mystic burrow
oh is it? mb
flint pawn
So uh, intelligent people of the Psyker chat, idk what balance stuff happened this update but but what're the cool kids using and what fell off this patch
mystic burrow
So uh, intelligent people of the Psyker chat, idk what balance stuff happened th...
its basically the same, nothing really fell off
flint pawn
Alright cool
ornate hamlet
I just get bored of using this all the time
flint pawn
DD stands for
mystic burrow
disrupt destiny
flint pawn
Interesting
ornate hamlet
Cooked good or bad
mystic burrow
left side extra stacks disrupt destiny is not even usable anymore
radiant frigate
left side extra stacks disrupt destiny is not even usable anymore
how so
flint pawn
Good thing I never used it to begin with
radiant frigate
4 seconds per stack fall off is very fast
3 stacks per blue man headshot kill though
mystic burrow
so i tried running disrupt destiny on left side tree to do the penance of maintaining 15 stacks or more for 1800 seconds
mystic burrow
throughout the entire mission i only maintained 15 stacks of disrupt destiny for 4 seconds
pearl lion
But each stack was only lacking like 2 seconds
mystic burrow
with extended duration however, i basically maintain 15 stacks the entire game
so left side is just cooked imo
pearl lion
I think it was a UI bug though, because I still made progress towards the penance
mystic burrow
But each stack was only lacking like 2 seconds
that's a bug that doesnt show actual disrupt destiny stacks
the 2 second dd stack is actually movement speed from killing a marked target
mystic burrow
the actual dd stack is not shown due to bug, and will only start showing when u lose all stacks and restack them
pearl lion
gud game
mystic burrow
and i can go the entire game not seeing my dd stack even once with extended duration
which says alot about your ability to maintain stacks
but yea, weakspot kill gives 3 stacks, sure, but u gotta make sure u're capable of killing the targets u marked before your allies kill them
there's also an issue with what weapon u're using to get said kills
columnus aint gonna headshot kill a marked mauler, u wasting bullets
the change is good, its one step towards making left side dd useful, but the duration is just too short imo
rigid sky
after new revolver and laspistol
I think maybe the folding shovels came out after that? For veteran and ogryn though
rigid sky
4 seconds per stack fall off is very fast
On the other hand they fall off one at a time now. I feel like it's more usable than it used to be, but still potentially too impractical.
late yew
I think maybe the folding shovels came out after that? For veteran and ogryn tho...
No, with them
rigid sky
Idk, I see some people say it's good now, but I saw nobody say it was good before
but I haven't tried either
rigid sky
No, with them
Ok, no new weapons yet then I think
late yew
What significant talent changes happened to psyker?
also HOLY FUCK amount of penances completed the moment i logged in
rigid sky
What significant talent changes happened to psyker?
Disrupt Destiny minor rework (now falls off one stack at a time, max duration is 4s base with mutually exclusive options to either extend to 10s or to go up to 25 stacks), EP smite buffed from +125% to +200%
Scrier's Gaze now affected by Warp Siphon CDR
scrier's gaze now cools down while active
Did I miss anything?
strong gulch
Is the DS mk II good?
It's pretty good. Not as strong DPS as the MK4 but you get a bit better horde clear. You have to weave more specials in your attacks vs chained heavies for tougher targets.
rigid sky
I guess if you use a gun, be aware that survialist aura veterans won't be giving you as much ammo back as they did before
strong gulch
The animation for the heavy 1 on DS 2 and 4 is the same, but they have different damage for SOME reason. 
rigid sky
Tbh, horde clear on DS4 in a SG/DD/Assail build is still busted anyway
I struggle to see why you would pick a different duelling sword
late yew
Did I miss anything?
those are pretty good
strong gulch
DS 4 is so ubiquitous. Sometimes people want something slightly different or RNG is a buttface.
I agree that most of the time its horde management is sufficient, but there is the odd time that it isn't.
mystic burrow
On the other hand they fall off one at a time now. I feel like it's more usable ...
i did mention that too, if u'd read everything i said
falling off one at a time is a good change, but 4 seconds is too fast, that's my opinion
rigid sky
The good psyker exclusive weapons are just too good tbh
I mean, not problematically
just, good enough to warp the lessers out of the conversation mostly
the holy trinity + combat blade 6, not sure I'd use anything else. Maybe a rashad.
radiant frigate
is it just me or is knife 6 just better than knife 3
vestal fulcrum
It may depend on how comfortable you are with each blade’s moveset
frail pasture
Bro the past like 5 hours have had monsterous specials in auric maelstrom
is there some event going on
vestal fulcrum
I like Mk6 more, but that’s only a subjective take
radiant frigate
perhaps it is a comfort thing
vestal fulcrum
I think the push attack is the same for both knives
It is, yeah
the only thing that differs is the hitbox/animation
plucky flax
is it just me or is knife 6 just better than knife 3
Both knives gud. I prefer mk3 on zealot but mk6 on psyker and vet.
radiant frigate
i vastly prefer 6 on zealot
potent echo
Do the horizontal swings have any real cleave
strong narwhal
hello, im new and just hit level 10 and was looking for some talent point assistance
plucky flax
Zealot has very fast attack speed so mk3 light spam can horde clear good enough. And mk3 have better single target dps with heavy spam.
That's my preference on zealot.
upper galleon
hello, im new and just hit level 10 and was looking for some talent point assist...
don't worry too much, just aim for the big nodes every 1/3rd way down the tree
you can reset infinite number of times for free
vestal fulcrum
Do the horizontal swings have any real cleave
The heavies 1/2 on Mk6 that is?
upper galleon
and make 5 loadouts to save
strong narwhal
i just don't know what weapons to use either or which magic's better between smite and head explode
late yew
First game after more than 6 months of break
upper galleon
it doesn't really matter till level 30
late yew
What do you think of smite with EP now? @near wyvern
strong narwhal
Use what you like
i dont know what i like
cinder moon
(EP smite was always good, now it's even better)
vestal fulcrum
i dont know what i like <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Do you know what you don’t like, then?
Does any weapon feel particularly garbage to you?
strong narwhal
semi automatic weapons are not my favorite
vestal fulcrum
(I have a lot of weapon takes such as these 
)
late yew
(EP smite was always good, now it's even better)
Actually no, before there was a very good argument that battery just overperformed EP in just about every way with smite
vestal fulcrum
What was the argument, though?
strong narwhal
also does it matter what order i do the missions in? is there a story mode?
potent echo
The heavies 1/2 on Mk6 that is?
Yea
vestal fulcrum
Yea
6.5 cleave. You can typically cleave through 2/3 bruisers, if they’re not empowered by pox
Push attack also has 6.5 cleave for some reason
marble crater
also does it matter what order i do the missions in? is there a story mode?
The "story" is in the cutscenes, it doesn't matter which order you play the missions in
late yew
There is no story basically
strong narwhal
so these special assignments dont matter?
upper sun
story is some nerds fell to chaos in atoma and now you have to kill them
vestal fulcrum
There is no story basically
Technically there is a story, but it’s not told very directly
marble crater
I saw some post on reddit that tried to put all the missions in some order based on importance of what we do there and which person the mission leader is, so there is that I guess
vestal fulcrum
Many items and descriptions of such tell some story through text, essentially
upper sun
you do get bits of lore in missions through the vox
would be nice to get a big finale at some point but thats like 7 patches and 30 years away from happening
marble crater
Kill heretics, eat rashuns, simple as.
late yew
Lore is story are different things
vestal fulcrum
Yeah, sometimes what the vox casters are saying is relevant, beyond typical banter that is
upper sun
imagine storming a big compound with 2 other teams
late yew
Kill heretics, eat rashuns, simple as.
I SPOTTED A HERETIC
YOU DID NOT MENTION LOVE THE EMPERAH
upper sun
each team destroys stuff to make raiding for the other teams easier
marble crater
radiant frigate
Use what you like
what a concept
marble crater
YOU DID NOT MENTION LOVE THE EMPERAH
I hope my beloved forgives me
vestal fulcrum
imagine storming a big compound with 2 other teams
This sounds like an optimisation problem that FS is not equipped to deal with
upper sun
8 PLAYER COOP VS 8K ENEMIES
vestal fulcrum
what a concept
Indeed 
upper sun
ALL ELITES AND SPECIALISTS
vestal fulcrum
My only crashes are a result of going into inventory
Inventory after ANY mission - that’s a crash
strong narwhal
when should i use smite vs my magic stick
upper sun
all they have to do is replace the inventory 3d models with jpgs
marble crater
Lucky, I have at least one crash every gaming sessions while in the mission. If the gameplay wasn't so much fun I would wait until a fix, but the gameplay is too good 
upper sun
its not that hard just add an option to switch out inventory models to the ones used in brunts
vestal fulcrum
all they have to do is replace the inventory 3d models with jpgs
I don’t know how it works, albeit items being 3D renders is probably the major reason for why the inventory on my end is unstable
marble crater
when should i use smite vs my magic stick
Imo smite is best used if your team gets overwhelmed and you need to "pause" the fight for a few seconds, also good against a lot of heavily armored targets, like maulers and crushers
upper sun
I don’t know how it works, albeit items being 3D renders is probably the major r...
they wanted to display all the different ass skins in the inventory which imo is a waste
late yew
when should i use smite vs my magic stick
which magic stick
marble crater
Don't smite a few small poxwalkers, just hit them
late yew
Smite can do hordle clear with EP, and can do crowd control in any situation
vestal fulcrum
they wanted to display all the different ass skins in the inventory which imo is...
It makes inventory management slightly more bearable, but then I really, really couldn’t manage my inventory well enough, had it not been through mods
lethal lagoon
Smite can do hordle clear with EP, and can do crowd control in any situation
Yep horde clear yep
Surely... just horde clear....
strong narwhal
which magic stick
im not sure how to tell you mid strike
potent echo
Push attack also has 6.5 cleave for some reason <:whatthefuck_heresy:10497244442...
No wonder telopots just spams it
marble crater
Inventory management is not a thing without mods
strong narwhal
is it ever worth it to charge smite
vestal fulcrum
No wonder telopots just spams it
There’s no good reason to not abuse the push attack, it deals heavy attack damage and has the same cleave
lethal lagoon
Do you mean is it ever worth it to right click?
late yew
Surely... just horde clear....
takes too long without ult
marble crater
is it ever worth it to charge smite
Yes, it's how you use it most of the time
lethal lagoon
It's never worth it to left click lmao
late yew
im not sure how to tell you mid strike
what
lethal lagoon
takes too long without ult
If you use smite without flaming shriek... breh
8 seconds to kill a theretical 50+ ragers and all equal/weaker elites is wild.
late yew
If you use smite without flaming shriek... breh
If you use flaming shriek then there is 0 reason to take EP?
strong narwhal
its a stick with a book on top lol idk what its called
marble crater
It's never worth it to left click lmao
Uh oh, someone here disagreed with that a few weeks ago
vestal fulcrum
Left click with Smite - maybe if you want to drop a dog off somebody
late yew
its a stick with a book on top lol idk what its called
Imagine being able to read
lethal lagoon
If you use flaming shriek then there is 0 reason to take EP?
taking a rager 100-0 in a single cast there is 0 reason to use EP
manic halo
lethal lagoon
manic halo
STOP
lethal lagoon
strong narwhal
Imagine being able to read
theres literally no menu for it in mission
manic halo
thats right bitch
lethal lagoon
vestal fulcrum
marble crater
its a stick with a book on top lol idk what its called
Does it shoot a flame, lightning, a bowling ball or an explosion on the ground?
manic halo
lethal lagoon
paper lily
there is some tricks with lmb smite
late yew
theres literally no menu for it in mission <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
why are you typing while in mission you god damned heretic
paper lily
it's instant and only requires 1 tick to knock things around
strong narwhal
Does it shoot a flame, lightning, a bowling ball or an explosion on the ground?
green fire and charged lightning
strong narwhal
why are you typing while in mission you god damned heretic
because your mother is an ork
late yew
suddenly cc isn't that good?????
but you won't be able to do that, if you are CCed...
manic halo
Im already there tho
late yew
because your mother is an ork
Aha! Gotchya, orcs have no mothers
strong narwhal
look at this heretic spelling ork wrong
late yew
Also having girl name and girl profile picture is cringe
Doubly cringe if it is from a gacha game
i win the argument
late yew
Utility of bubble shield is too spicy
manic halo
imagine not having shield wall
restive ice
imagine typing in discord while letting your team die
manic halo
supeiror to bubble incels
restive ice
definitely worse than uploading memes to discord while letting your team die
marble crater
Also having girl name and girl profile picture is cringe
What if they are a girl 
lethal lagoon
Utility of bubble shield is too spicy
This you?
manic halo
then they are lost
manic halo
Utility of bubble shield is too spicy
Ill fucking destroy you
strong narwhal
Also having girl name and girl profile picture is cringe
at least shes human unlike you, xeno loving non human dwarf creature
paper lily
dbl shield wall only purpose is to giga steroid brain rupture
lethal lagoon
Oh man, I just realized why EP smite got a completely unneeded buff. It's cause of all the shield users.
Can I even make fun of them anymore?
radiant frigate
"i play mostly support/tank builds" what am i reading
lethal lagoon
marble crater
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/discussions/0/3935643263194411095/
This is satire, right?
lethal lagoon
This is steam.
potent echo
Mainly yea
paper lily
no i mean smite as a cc was fine it was just everyone else crying about it that got it changed
radiant frigate
This is steam.
ah, malice player
potent echo
99% of it is bait and rage
radiant frigate
i understand now
potent echo
rEddIt0r
lethal lagoon
If you think that's even remotely close to the worst thing in the steam dicussion forum, you are in a for a ride
Take a journey
Have a sip.
marble crater
Nah, I'm good
vestal fulcrum
i understand now
Well, later in the discussion they mentioned that they are playing Damnation+
lethal lagoon
The dicussion forums during the EP bug for Surge were by far the worst I've seen it
strong narwhal
i just wanna do space magic
potent echo
No-I-don't-think-I-will.gif
vestal fulcrum
The dicussion forums during the EP bug for Surge were by far the worst I've seen...
So, good, or bad
lethal lagoon
late yew
What if they are a girl <:concerned:1107393210847871110>
No, they are not, i am sure of it
manic halo
smite players when i send a electric shock directly to their pacemaker killing them
lethal lagoon
"EP Surge is perfectly balanced"
manic halo
Suddenly a electricity arcing isn't good????
lethal lagoon
"Surge is useless without the EP bug"
I wish I saved some, I never thought to.
It was top tier 
paper lily
i mean... they're probably there
late yew
Ill fucking destroy you
YOu can't, I AM INVINCIBLE in the bubble
marble crater
I think I will move into aurics though, it's nice to play with people who know what they are doing, maybe I too will know what to do one day
manic halo
gosh if only samone had diagrams of smite and how far it arcs to other enemys
potent echo
Filthy exploiters 
lethal lagoon
Who would have something like that
late yew
It was top tier <:COPIUM:844777929119891476>
it was funny, yeah
manic halo
lethal lagoon
marble crater
AtloserUndead
manic halo
Fatsharking summoing 18 other psyker players the moment i select that charc
(all of them are dog shit)
paper lily
i like class specific hate threads
lethal lagoon
They have to be matching classes together on purpose.
paper lily
those are the best ones
lethal lagoon
People complaining about how Ogryn is too squishy
Like you should never die unless you get disabled on Ogryn
It just shouldn't happen
marble crater
They have to be matching classes together on purpose.
Three psykers and one ogryn is very comfy, or a total shit show 
manic halo
lethal lagoon
Ogryn should not have literally his one weakness and just never die
radiant frigate
"Surge is useless without the EP bug"
was that a real thing that a person said
lethal lagoon
3 psykers and One Og is literally the only time it's okay to block with a shield
lethal lagoon
was that a real thing that a person said
That was the general attitude of most of the forum
radiant frigate
People complaining about how Ogryn is too squishy
squishy???
lethal lagoon
Yes
radiant frigate
ogryn??
lethal lagoon
I'm talking peak popularity post patch 13 times they said Ogryn were too squishy
And most people seemed to agree
radiant frigate
"tankiest thing in the known universe labelled "too squishy", more news at 8"
late yew
Three psykers and one ogryn is very comfy, or a total shit show <:heh:9564853853...
three ogryns one cap one psyker
radiant frigate
Three psykers and one ogryn is very comfy, or a total shit show <:heh:9564853853...
no that has to be a shitshow
3 psykers bad
paper lily
wonder if average vet player just picked ogryn and decided that or what
radiant frigate
4 psykers god
marble crater
That works too, the more ogryns the better, just pray there is enough ammo on the map, because dear emperor do they use a lot of it as gunlugger
marble crater
no that has to be a shitshow
It went surprisingly well
radiant frigate
That works too, the more ogryns the better, just pray there is enough ammo on th...
you could also use less and engage in melee
strong narwhal
should i ever melee or just stick to using my stick
marble crater
I could, but I want to shoot and shoot (farming the penance)
paper lily
depends on how good ur awareness is
lethal lagoon
Melee for me is largely mutant killing, movement tech, and blocking.
Depending on build it might be my horde clear though
late yew
should i ever melee or just stick to using my stick
Depends on your build
potent echo
If you see a group of shooters it's usually better to dive in with melee to tie them up
late yew
Until you are level 30 though there is no point in discussing builds
So just level up for now
potent echo
Unless you have assail then ayolmao
strong narwhal
uh i guess in using smite
late yew
and try different weapons
strong narwhal
head explode feels useless
late yew
you are useless
lethal lagoon
I would pesonally not level using smite, you won't learn a lot of the game.
late yew
paper lily
you'll find other classes much less fun at least
strong narwhal
why whats wrong with smite
potent echo
I thought BR was mid until I tried EP BR
paper lily
smite lets you ignore core mechanics if you have decent dodging
potent echo
Being able to oneshot ragers is nice
lethal lagoon
Smite is kind of like cheating in school. It works, but the moment it doesn't you are fucked. And you haven't learned any skills on how to function without cheating.
paper lily
poxbursters, auto handled, dogs, stunned, trappers, stunned, mutants, stunned
lethal lagoon
revive lmao
That's funny, I guess it is technically "jail"
I've never heard someone say that though
paper lily
you are hogtied i g
radiant frigate
almost always from flamethrower guys
i suggest staying away from fire and killing things that would set you on fire
paper lily
make sure u are dodging
marble crater
paper lily
best advice tbh
strong narwhal
how do i dodge
zinc star
You just do easy
restive ice
wolf has gone into police custody
paper lily
think default bind is shift idk
strong narwhal
o i figured out the staff name
late yew
how do i dodge
strong narwhal
its a surge force staff
potent echo
First unbind dodge from jump
strong narwhal
i failed the emperor again
zinc star
Based only real ones face tank all damage
restive ice
bro forgot the advanced training 💀
late yew
and clearly have not played vermintide
paper lily
suckin at something is the first step towards bein sorta good at somethin
marble crater
bro forgot the advanced training 💀
I skipped advanced training and I turned out fine 
late yew
no, let him play Ogryn
strong narwhal
wait if mutants are bad why are ofryn ok
distant heart
after the new patch which staff do yall think is the best?
lethal lagoon
^
frail pasture
Bruh you take that back
lethal lagoon
All staves are S tier weapons, with rending Trauma and Purg being in A+ tier.
frail pasture
Purg is fucking pog
distant heart
so is voidstrike still the best all a rounder? thats what the guide i was sent earlier says
paper lily
i personally find void too slow
lethal lagoon
If you can headshot reliably.
paper lily
think staff is mostly preference
lethal lagoon
^
Staves have big varience in skill floor and ceiling too, so it's never 100% clear which is actually that much better.
frail pasture
It also depends on your teamcomp too tbh
distant heart
fair
lethal lagoon
Correction, Purg is still last place though
distant heart
my duo is a veteran
frail pasture
Fair
strong narwhal
do psychos ever use guns
frail pasture
but Purg is pog at horde control, and if you have teammates not running a ton of horde control its pog
lethal lagoon
Guns are better for leveling
strong gulch
i personally find void too slow
You and me both. Though, Void with SG makes it spicy.
lethal lagoon
And guns have some high DPS builds at max level
marble crater
Well, Trauma is bad, we can agree on that right? Please buff 
paper lily
gun is strong but idk if it's straight up better than psyker specific stuff
frail pasture
do psychos ever use guns
Rarely but it can be really good. Gun/Dueling sword psycher melts bosses
distant heart
anyone have recommended talent trees? i like hitting lots of things at once
lethal lagoon
If it wasn't for columunus, I would categorically say staves are better.
distant heart
like im level 11 so im still new but shooting lightning is sooo fun
frail pasture
Good news, surge staff and smite both stay strong 🙂
marble crater
anyone have recommended talent trees? i like hitting lots of things at once
I get to use this, ha!
strong gulch
Surge at low level is pretty decent.
frail pasture
Surge at high level with the right stats/perks stays good
marble crater
I get to use this, ha!
Courtesy of the psyker guide creator
strong narwhal
Is it normal for my team to constantly be off wandering doing their own things?
paper lily
it depends
strong gulch
Love surge.
paper lily
if u hear a giant scream of incoming horde and ur team is still jerking it in 4 corners crossmap you're gonna have a bad time
strong gulch
It me. I fall behind. I end up running in actual circles sometimes. People skipping loot. 🥲
marble crater
i usually fall ahead
Knife zealot mentality
distant heart
I get to use this, ha!
how do use assail shard? i used them for a few rounds but i liked the lightning more for hordes
strong narwhal
What's up with this other psycho in my party always shouting about his beloved?
vestal fulcrum
What's up with this other psycho in my party always shouting about his beloved?
Oh that’s the Seer Psyker voice, don’t mind them
paper lily
i have a pretty deep rooted dislike of people running knife too
if i see lacerate on it, even more
marble crater
how do use assail shard? i used them for a few rounds but i liked the lightning ...
You throw them at the enemy, they kill basically everything in low difficulties, a lot more versatile than smite, imo
radiant frigate
if i see lacerate on it, even more
i put lacerate on my knife
late yew
how do use assail shard? i used them for a few rounds but i liked the lightning ...
Assail is universal tool against anything that is not carapace
paper lily
lacerate is just straight up inferior in every way to flesh tearer
rigid sky
if i see lacerate on it, even more
Valid
late yew
Also shards follow cursor for a couple of hitys
so be sure to wiggle aim around to hit as many targets as you can
rigid sky
i have a pretty deep rooted dislike of people running knife too
but this is mostly just caused by dogshit knife players I think lol
distant heart
You throw them at the enemy, they kill basically everything in low difficulties,...
whats considered low difficulties? we are running difficulty 3s so would that be low?
distant heart
Assail is universal tool against anything that is not carapace
oooh
rigid sky
Knife users fall into three camps I find
strong narwhal
Oh that’s the Seer Psyker voice, don’t mind them <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444...
o i picked a french girl@sounding one
rigid sky
arseholes playing single player in a co-op game
strong gulch
It me. I fall behind. I end up running in actual circles sometimes. People skipp...
I'm like this in real life. It wasn't my mom's fault when I went missing at Disneyland as a kid. Even now, good luck keeping an eye on me at the grocery store. 🙃
rigid sky
Actual gods who support the team and make the knife work
and people who are trying to be like the gods but are failing miserably (it's me :D )
late yew
Actual gods who support the team and make the knife work
Literally don't exist
because knife is bad supporting tool
rigid sky
Literally don't exist
I have seen it.
paper lily
see, i get annoyed because even people who are really good with knife
they'd be even better with a more well rounded weapon
radiant frigate
because knife is bad supporting tool
you know they have other things except knife too
usually stealth
late yew
they'd be even *better* with a more well rounded weapon
this
late yew
usually stealth
also bad supporting tool
distant heart
yes
idk why i struggled a lot with the assail shards but i did so well with the lightning
marble crater
whats considered low difficulties? we are running difficulty 3s so would that be...
Yes, enemies have less health so assail annihilates them, in higher difficulties it's still good at horde clear, but not as OP anymore
radiant frigate
also bad supporting tool
idk, gets revives that are otherwise impossible
late yew
idk why i struggled a lot with the assail shards but i did so well with the ligh...
Diff 3 does not matter
radiant frigate
pretty good
late yew
until you are level 30, use whatever
paper lily
fwiw ressing people inside a fat ass horde is usually not the best
late yew
Talents and weapons affect everytihng a lot
distant heart
ohhh
paper lily
but yeah u can get big saves with it
radiant frigate
fwiw ressing people inside a fat ass horde is usually not the best
better than not ressing them
strong narwhal
also whats soulblaze how do i use it
late yew
idk, gets revives that are otherwise impossible
With some other ult you might not let situation come to impossible revives
paper lily
i use loner and stealth on my zealot but play just like a chastise zealot
strong gulch
how do use assail shard? i used them for a few rounds but i liked the lightning ...
Mouse over what you want to hit to guide the shards. These can interrupt shooters. The aiming one, with a halo, does more damage.
rigid sky
also whats soulblaze how do i use it
Soulblaze is a condition which you can put on enemies with a few different sources
radiant frigate
also whats soulblaze how do i use it
it's a stacking DoT you can put on targets
rigid sky
There are good soruces and bad sources of it
Good sources are Purgatus, Blazing Spirit Trauma weapons, and Perilous Combustion, Creeping Flames talents.
radiant frigate
With some other ult you might not let situation come to impossible revives
some people cannot be helped, however
strong narwhal
What sources are they?
rigid sky
Wildfire is... ok, but just spreads existing soulblaze around.
Bad sources are all other blazing spirit weapons (force swords, and staves that aren't Trauma)
marble crater
Trauma bad though, AgentChaos said so
rigid sky
AgentChaos is doing a trole.
radiant frigate
Bad sources are all other blazing spirit weapons (force swords, and staves that ...
i am going to play blazing surge voidstrike
rigid sky
as the kids say.
strong gulch
buff pls
marble crater
Buff radius please
strong gulch
transfer peril blazing spirit SG void
rigid sky
Turn Trauma into the Locate City nuke
strong narwhal
whats this knife people keep talking about
late yew
i am going to play blazing surge voidstrike
pls no
rigid sky
whats this knife people keep talking about
Combat Blade is its real name
There are two of them, the mark III and the mark VI
of the two, the mark III is the better one for elite killing and the VI is somewhat better at horde clear.
Generally, Zealots take the III and Veterans and Psykers take the VI.
late yew
BOth are NOT usable on psyker
radiant frigate
this zealot takes the VI
rigid sky
BOth are NOT usable on psyker
False lmao.
late yew
IF you want to be a dead weight to the team go ahead
radiant frigate
usable but outclassed by psyker weapons
marble crater
Why take knife, if I can take big fancy sword
rigid sky
IF you want to be a dead weight to the team go ahead
TIL Pygex is dead weight
radiant frigate
and since there are so many psyker builds that barely use their melee
rigid sky
radiant frigate
knife is perfectly fine
i am not a fan of these builds
join the illisi faction
embrace magically-enhanced melee
rigid sky
I mean, say you don't like it, sure
say it's niche, yes.
Say it's not a recommended pick for people looking for advice, I agree.
Say it's "dead weight" and you're actually a clown.
radiant frigate
i used to think knife was dead weight too
mostly because of the knife zealots i got in qp
rigid sky
i used to think knife was dead weight too
The good news is that clown makeup washes off :)
radiant frigate
then i saw like 1-2 that worked miracles with knife
rigid sky
but yeah, elevator rushers give knives a bad name
radiant frigate
and i thought "alright maybe there is something to this"
rigid sky
those people can just fucking rot in nurgle's septic tank
radiant frigate
it was a lacerate uncanny enjoyer
rigid sky
tbh the second blessing isn't so important with a knife. Lacerate is a troll pick but that guy probably could have carried with a blue knife.
paper lily
0 chance a knife zealot is gonna have issues keeping scourge up the entire game even with no bleed blessing
rigid sky
I guess maybe if you're not good at reliably hitting weakspots too it's not bad
radiant frigate
i kinda like it
it is very keystone-agnostic
i still end up running bp with it but still
rigid sky
CDR is too important, blazing piety is gonna be the best keystone in most cases until/unless crit CDR gets adjusted down
radiant frigate
martyrdom kinda goated
rigid sky
25% crit for existing is crazy
paper lily
piety as a 1 pt investment is sick, 3 points meh
rigid sky
Hm, fair point
rigid sky
I haven't tried to fuck with 1 point BP
paper lily
zealot has by far the best value nodes out of pretty much all class trees
radiant frigate
faster trigger and faster upkeep
paper lily
10 crit for 2 points is kinda shit
rigid sky
15% for 1 point investment is definitely more efficient but I feel like getting another +10 for 2 points is still good
Like +5 crit stat nodes are premium on every class they appear on
paper lily
yea i mean, it's not bad... it's just meh
radiant frigate
pretty epic with laspistol
okay maybe i should just make an infernus dum-dum laspistol
strong narwhal
i finally didnt get put in jail its a miracle, praise emperor
rigid sky
Blazing Piety third point is basically the same economy but with some kind of extra bonus that I forget what it is lol
paper lily
which is completely useless since allies can proc piety
radiant frigate
i am not going to depend on that
paper lily
well ofc, but you'll never not have piety up, even with 1 pt investment
rigid sky
On knife stealth zealot it falls off a lot for me lol
I feel like I might go to 1 point investment on my other builds maybe if I can see a better use
sturdy oar
hey is this a good build for fire sword? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ac0ca79-94d5-4ba5-8f12-a627e150eabe/briggsos-void-bowler
looking for a good fire sword build
rigid sky
but for my knife pervert I want to keep it
rigid sky
looking for a good fire sword build
Well, got some bad news for you lol
paper lily
idk, like i said i have a really poor opinion of knife zealot, or knife in general, knife rewards weakspot hits with like a 3x multi and even playing perfectly is probably suboptimal to an evis 15 holding m1
rigid sky
there isn't one
paper lily
ur mostly gonna be focusing on single target so piety will naturally be harder to keep up
rigid sky
I usually take a horde clear ranged on my knife pervert
late yew
looking for a good fire sword build
fire sword not good
rigid sky
kantrael shotgun or flamer
late yew
But it is not fire sword...
rigid sky
Meleeing crowds is mostly just for CDR and survival
radiant frigate
words cannot describe how little i like this build
i hate every single thing about it
rigid sky
i hate every single thing about it
It's perfectly shit yeah lol
sturdy oar
awe but fire sword is fun
rigid sky
kinetic flayer
late yew
What build
radiant frigate
battle med over perilous combustion
sturdy oar
idk im just trying to find a build to run
rigid sky
yet no kinetic resonance
sturdy oar
guys im just asking
radiant frigate
toughness curios yet skipping toughness nodes
rigid sky
This isn't meant as a criticism of you
I'm just saying that this build isn't great and picks some talent nodes that are just bad
radiant frigate
if by fire you mean force it is good
sturdy oar
well instead of doing that please can i just find a build or something idk whats good or not
radiant frigate
if you mean soulblaze crit swords it is bad
sturdy oar
not fire sword force sword
rigid sky
so you can critique your own builds going forwards
Ah, ok!
Force swords generally are great
sturdy oar
my bad
rigid sky
Deimos and Illisi at least, fuck obscurus
You're using voidstrike so you can pick either Deimos or Illisi really
sturdy oar
i dont have IIIisi yet i still have deimos but eah
late yew
gee, people nowdays crying if you say "not good" to them
sturdy oar
well they just have voidstrike there
rigid sky
Ah - ok, so one first point
late yew
illi is for horde clear
rigid sky
On psyker, your ranged weapon defines you
sturdy oar
gee, people nowdays crying if you say "not good" to them
im just trying to find a build chill out
late yew
Deimos is for single target
rigid sky
so you pick a melee weapon to go with your ranged
paper lily
here's one of my builds https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b782f2a-2bd2-49ac-abd8-0235e80bae51/surge-ds4-vent-psyker
rigid sky
but good news, deimos or illisi are always appropriate
so any build you wanna make can be a force sword build
now, which of deimos or illisi you use does depend
late yew
here's one of my builds https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b782f2a-2bd2-4...
Dueling sword with surge?
Just why
paper lily
assail is for horde
rigid sky
I wouldn't use Illisi with Purgatus for example
sturdy oar
i have deimos mk IV
rigid sky
So, with a Deimos, I would recommend either a Purgatus, a Trauma or a Voidstrike build
paper lily
have assail and shriek for horde clear, never really gonna get overrun with that build
late yew
i have deimos mk IV
by which he means perks
sturdy oar
oh
rigid sky
and then your talent build will depend on which of those you want to take
late yew
have assail and shriek for horde clear, never really gonna get overrun with that...
but still, why have dueling sword
paper lily
better for movement than force swords
rigid sky
(I use Illisi with Voidstrike personally, but Deimos works too)
strong gulch
my bad
In your defense, it's a blaze force sword.
But yeah, fire sword is a specific build that is memes.
rigid sky
Duelling Sword isn't bad for horde clear, surprisingly. Although it helps a lot when it gets boosted by DD and SG
paper lily
duelling sword is unironically used mostly for special attack in that build
late yew
DS is the best for crusher and rager killing
rigid sky
And yeah, sorry for jumping on you about that. But fire sword is a really cool idea that a lot of people try to make and it always ends terribly lmao
sturdy oar
what is purgatus?
rigid sky
what is purgatus?
Purgatus is the flamethrower staff
Relatively easy to build since it only has 2 important modifiers on it, and only 1 essential blessing and 1 essential perk
strong gulch
I truly wish fire sword wasn't bad.
rigid sky
relatively easy to play with too
marble crater
Fire sword is a lot more fun than it is good, sadly
paper lily
could probably make it work if wildfire wasn't as bad as it was
sturdy oar
haha atm i only have this
strong gulch
Wildfire is niche af.
marble crater
sturdy oar
ive been playing zealot but im so done with zealot
rigid sky
so, staves you have right now are trauma and surge
and both of them will be kinda shit until you hit higher levels really
strong gulch
I want my exorcist + blazing spirit illisi with SG dream to come true. It's so meh tho.
rigid sky
surge probably more usable than trauma
distant heart
Mouse over what you want to hit to guide the shards. These can interrupt shooter...
can you guide them after i throw them or just before?
paper lily
trauma feels so bad without blessings
strong gulch
can you guide them after i throw them or just before?
After. Throw and guide.
sturdy oar
what should i go for talent wise
rigid sky
I would recommend just slapping on an accatran laspistol, or a kantrael Ia infantry lasgun, or a Columnus Infantry Autogun
sturdy oar
for a force sword
sturdy oar
I would recommend just slapping on an accatran laspistol, or a kantrael Ia infan...
gotcha
distant heart
After. Throw and guide.
oh thats good to know ty
rigid sky
at least for lower levels
marble crater
Trauma will feel weird the first few games no matter what, aiming is very unique
strong narwhal
is psych the hardest class
strong gulch
oh thats good to know ty
Play with it in the meat grinder so you can reliably take down tougher enemies.
paper lily
psyker is probably the most punishing class
rigid sky
is psych the hardest class
Overall, arguably yes
paper lily
idk about hardest
rigid sky
I think other classes have harder individual builds
High skill floor, moderately high skill ceiling imo.
distant heart
Play with it in the meat grinder so you can reliably take down tougher enemies.
ooh thats smart
strong gulch
Don't let a pox walker touch your shoulder. That shit will mess you up. lol
rigid sky
You have to have eyes in the back of your head
sturdy oar
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aa4955c-1f68-4247-88af-f537807e7d55/briggsos-spitfire-psyker-build is this good talent wise?
rigid sky
Don't let a pox walker touch your shoulder. That shit will mess you up. lol
1 poxwalker = I sleep (absorbed entirely by toughness)
paper lily
ultrawide monitor feels like cheating in this game
strong narwhal
whats a combat ability?
rigid sky
2 bruisers = I'm fucking dead
strong narwhal
the shriek?
rigid sky
so for psyker, Shriek or Shield or Scrier's
strong narwhal
ok thanks
rigid sky
All 3 are great options in different contexts
(but if you go shriek, always take creeping flames or it's bad)
strong gulch
whats a combat ability?
The red nodes of your talent tree are your abilities.
marble crater
Face my incomparable wrath
rigid sky
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aa4955c-1f68-4247-88af-f537807e7d55/br...
Again he's taken Kinetic Flayer which is outright bad