We definitely aren't 10 meters tall lmao
#psyker-class
paper lily
i don't really think that's where he's confused
lethal lagoon
Me neither, but just in case.
plus, it doesn't properly capture the scale of flaming shriek being so fucking OP
paper lily
it's op cuz it ignores the power scaling in the original code
lethal lagoon
You mean the base damage shit that falls off?
paper lily
yeah probably because debuffs or w/e don't interact with power scaling
lethal lagoon
Oh god, don't say that out loud
paper lily
power level in code is a little different to the stat on weapons
lethal lagoon
😨
paper lily
if everything was tied together nicely i'd reckon the end of the shriek would apply significantly less stacks
from what i'm reading in the code it should apply based on where you look, i'll test in game to confirm either way
cinder moon
why would it not
paper lily
i mean yea lol
lethal lagoon
Why would it not matter that you are looking straight in the sky? Fatshark
cinder moon
lethal lagoon
Fatshark
strong gulch
It's for blaze trauma ppl staring right at the ground and blasting feets. Blast, scream, don't make eye contact.
fluid skiff
pray for me, my psyker teammate is using obscurus and a terrifying barrage purg, with assail
paper lily
u sound pretty terrified, blessing working as intended
paper lily
casual code observer
untold niche
Putting in more effort than idk how many of us that can code but too lazy to code dive
paper lily
their stuff is pretty well organized, with some weird naming conventions
they definitely do some weird shit but looking for specific things isn't so bad
strong gulch
Huh. Good Emp drop.
plucky flax
strong gulch
doing some drunktide. What can go wrong.
quartz barn
You get matched with 2 stealth zealots like me and have to duo the mission
half iron
i saw a loner zealot in my last pub and stuck by them the whole game. didn’t want them to enjoy their aura
strong gulch
You do solo and try to do blaze trauma with scrier's.
plucky flax
Stop loner hate 
quartz barn
I just ran void with bubble cuz im rusty
Also some mods were broken which tanked my fps to 36 lmao
plucky flax
I played a weird ass void bubble smite build recently. It was somewhat enjoyable.
Got rid of bubble fast after the penance though. Xd
gloomy magnet
loner is a good bartender
strong gulch
Stop loner hate <a:SadgeCry:927346529725976586>
Do SG blaze trauma. You know, for the emotional damage.
half iron
gunpsyker is a way of life for me
plucky flax
Do SG blaze trauma. You know, for the emotional damage.
I am too scared for that.
raw oriole
Is Disrupt Destiny or specifically Lingering Influence bugged or nerfed this patch??? My stacks are DISAPPEARING so fast.
half iron
stack decay time got lowered to 4s (augment makes it 10s)
plucky flax
gunpsyker is a way of life for me
Brrrrrrrrrrr ez pee nance
gloomy magnet
Is Disrupt Destiny or specifically Lingering Influence bugged or nerfed this pat...
yeah i've reported this issue on forum
raw oriole
stack decay time got lowered to 4s (augment makes it 10s)
So it's 4 and 10 now, what was it previously?
gloomy magnet
15s and 30s
raw oriole
WHAT THE FUCK
gloomy magnet
it is maybe a visual glitch
half iron
it also used to disappear all at once instead of one stack at a time
gloomy magnet
uh but destiny falls 1 by 1 now
raw oriole
oh now it's one at a time fall off?
gloomy magnet
it is buffed
raw oriole
was this in the patch notes??????
gloomy magnet
yes
raw oriole
from which date? not seeing it in 1.0.22
ah I see, the couldn't find it on website version, mb
gloomy magnet
raw oriole
tytyty
half iron
Brrrrrrrrrrr ez pee nance
omg so true
raw oriole
I feel like the Disrupt Destiny, Lingering Influence, Perfectionism changes are a net nerf.
half iron
i don’t really mind the dd change, but man i’m gonna miss locking in the moment i see a lone soldier minding his own business 20m away from everyone
sonic raven
Brrrrrrrrrrr ez pee nance
I didn't take Jarmen Kell for an ogryn tbh
raw oriole
I just feel like 10s is such a small window to keep the stacks up...especially when there's a bigger threat on your screen and you're forced to make the choice between stack upkeep and proper threat targeting.
half iron
you’re hopefully not a vet. you can aim.
gloomy magnet
such a strong buff
untold niche
such a strong buff
Its a nerf. If I remember correctly. You need 15 stack for crusher 1 tap.
This meant that you had 30 whole seconds to fire stuff at full stack. Meanwhile new one you only have 10 seconds.
Let's assume crusher BP is at 12 stack
raw oriole
So is LI bugged? I had it equipped and it felt way more like 4s than 10s, at least on my buff bar.
untold niche
Even if its thr same 30 seconds, now you still have to rebuild it
gloomy magnet
visual glitch though
lethal lagoon
Its a nerf. If I remember correctly. You need 15 stack for crusher 1 tap.
This ...
It's a skill cap lowering, so not a nerf per say.
It depends on the person if it's a nerf or a buff
half iron
i find it both but more a buff on my end
lethal lagoon
It also reduces RNG
gloomy magnet
Damn I was obsessed with crushers before, but veteran has grenades
lethal lagoon
So not just skill cap
Losing all your stacks because DD picked bad targets felt awful
That happens less now
untold niche
It's a skill cap lowering, so not a nerf per say.
I agree it's skill cap lowering but I feel its still a nerf.
I could fire at 30 seconds for free at crushers and since I'm going to vent on them anyway it might as be 60.
Now I have to rebuild it every 10 seconds. Meaning I can't just do barrages on crusher mob anymore ;-;
untold niche
Losing all your stacks because DD picked bad targets felt awful
I genuinely never had that happen once I'm comfortable with it
Also stack rebuilding is at most 2 minutes
lethal lagoon
2 minutes is a long ass time in this game lmao
untold niche
At most :p
Like worst possible case.
Could get it in 10 seconds
That said that's why I don't want to go back psyker, I'm so sad
I feel like they should remove the max cap node, and change it to what the old one was.
So you its higher risk higher reward. And I get my 30 second 15 stack back
untold niche
I feel like they should remove the max cap node, and change it to what the old o...
@lethal lagoon what you feel? Since nobody runs 25 stack anyway
lethal lagoon
That is a good idea, I'm just trying to think of the tooltip
Like one is 10 second stacks, the other is 15 second stacks that go up to 30 but fall off all at once.
That fits as tooltips
gloomy magnet
shark should make this change as a modifier
lethal lagoon
I guess the issue is what 25 stack bois think
15 seconds is basically 21 stacks.
Versus 30 to 0
untold niche
Does anyone here actually run 25 stack
untold niche
Like one is 10 second stacks, the other is 15 second stacks that go up to 30 but...
Doesn't even need to go up to 30. Just give me old DD back
raw oriole
lethal lagoon
TBF, most people didn't run 30 stack either.
untold niche
Bust everyone did run old dd with 15 second
I mean
30 second
Or 15
Whatever old dd was
Point is just give me old DD with duration
15 stack cap with 15(? Or was it 30?) Duration
wind spruce
I think most people prefer 25 stacks as it is now
15 stacks is way better imo
lethal lagoon
No I meant 25 stacks as it is now versus the old 30 stacks
I definitely am a lazy boi and prefer 15 stack DD
untold niche
No I meant 25 stacks as it is now versus the old 30 stacks
No I want old 15 stack not old 30 stack
lethal lagoon
OH
wind spruce
No I want old 15 stack not old 30 stack
Why lol
lethal lagoon
so change 25 stacks to 15, 30 seconds fall off at once
hmm
Now that is a solid ideea
wind spruce
But you said you want old 15 stacks back
untold niche
Yeah. Old DD w/ duration > new DD with duration
wind spruce
Absolutely not
untold niche
Let me clarify something first. Old dd with duration was 15 second duration, or 30?
untold niche
Ok.
So another context, voidstrike one shot crusher at 15 stack, let's assume this for now.
This means with Old dd I can barrage into crusher mob for 30 seconds at full stack
New dd I I only do it for 10 seconds.
Let's assume voidstrike crusher 1tap is 12 stack.
Again, Old is 30 seconds. New is 30 seconds but I have to rebuild or shoot something else in between.
plucky flax
I think most people prefer 25 stacks as it is now
I tried both but I prefer longer duration. Because when the blue guy is behind 2 walls it's rip.
lethal lagoon
I tried both but I prefer longer duration. Because when the blue guy is behind 2...
As it is now, versus the old 30 stacks, I just meant 25 vs 30, I think people like the new change better.
I prefer 15
paper lily
why are u concerned with a crusher 1 shot bp if u plan on shooting crushers for 30s
raw oriole
They added the convenience of stacks falling off one by one, but prior to this patch dropping all stacks at once might have happened 5 times through a mission and you could get the full 15 stacks back in like 2 minutes or less. New DD is way more stressful to keep up and calls for poor threat targeting at a higher frequency than before these changes.
DD needed a nerf probably, but holy hell, idk, reduce max stacks maybe?
untold niche
why are u concerned with a crusher 1 shot bp if u plan on shooting crushers for ...
Because 12 crusher mob and I personally never dropped stacks for Old DD, meaning New changes doesn't benefit me and I would rather have full stacks.
paper lily
does void not just shred the entire pack instantly
wind spruce
Idk what to say other than anyone who thinks new extended duration DD is worse than the old one is living in another reality
untold niche
I'm not talking about balance. I'm just talking about if it's a nerf or not btw.
half iron
it works on my machine nonetheless
paper lily
i'd call it a buff overall as well tbh
wind spruce
i'd call it a buff overall as well tbh
Its absolutely a buff
paper lily
ignoring bps you have significantly more consistent uptime on increased damage
untold niche
Idk what to say other than anyone who thinks new extended duration DD is worse t...
You have a trend of insulting / making remarks whenever someone disagrees with you.
Previous time you even said I "don't know how angles work", and then your counter example was something I said "unless.." for
Maybe you are better at the game but you are certainly a terrible person for discussions
wind spruce
You have a trend of insulting / making remarks whenever someone disagrees with y...
Yeah I'm an asshole
wind spruce
Not only that your sense of reasoning is screwed as well
Counter something I said then
If you treat new DD like the old one and kill something every max 30s, you'll degrade at a rate of 4 per minute
raw oriole
ignoring bps you have significantly more consistent uptime on increased damage
uptime on full DD stacks is absolutely down from pre-1.0.22
uptime on any amount of DD stacks is potentially up as of 1.0.22
I prefer the former.
wind spruce
So you can go at that crusher pack for a minute without dropping below 11
untold niche
So you can go at that crusher pack for a minute without dropping below 11
For void, crusher one tap is 11 threshold?
wind spruce
Where as before you'd be at 0
paper lily
yeah i didn't specify how many stacks, you're likely to be near max stacks at all times with no real punishment for missing a kill window
plucky flax
Da stealth smoke vet drip 
wind spruce
For void, crusher one tap is 11 threshold?
Depends on peril and perfect timing
paper lily
you might have a preference, but i think numbers wise it'd prove to be an overall buff
wind spruce
Psyker has so much variable damage breakpoint calculations are cooked
vestal fulcrum
You don't need to keep it at 15 stacks homies
I like to think of it as a buff in terms of not dropping the entire thing on an elevator ride 
half iron
Da stealth smoke vet drip <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
weird gunpsyker
raw oriole
you might have a preference, but i think numbers wise it'd prove to be an overal...
gonna have to agree to disagree on this one - time will tell 🤝
untold niche
Depends on peril and perfect timing
Assume surge proc and 80% peril
And if no surge proc, two shots? o.o
quartz barn
Pretty much
untold niche
you might have a preference, but i think numbers wise it'd prove to be an overal...
My point is I never dropped stacks beyond ele and when no spawns. So new DD doesn't help me at all.
And of course I'm assuming I need full stacks
quartz barn
Void oneshot vs crushers doesnt matter too much because you will knock them down if it doesnt kill
If anything i usually expect it to not oneshot, same vs bulwarks
untold niche
Yeah but against 6-12 in your face you knocking down one doesn't really help that much
Also 15 stacks mean I can get to charge less
On whatever else
untold niche
Assume surge proc and 80% peril
And if no surge proc, two shots? o.o
@wind spruce come bacccckkk I am interested to know the BPs ( if I don't reply I just want to say thanks for the numbers :* )
wind spruce
<@319370581185265676> come bacccckkk I am interested to know the BPs ( if I don'...
Idk the exact threshold for a DD oneshot
untold niche
wind spruce
I don't bother with such miniature since peril and perfect timing are both going to skew things
untold niche
:( i thought yo uwere going to test it
don't you always peril edge, so its going be like at 80 from the time you start charging, and i personally always assumed no PT stacks
which makes sense now since PT only lasted 10 seconds while old DD was 30
plucky flax
Still think they should make it any nearby enemies and teammate kills count like zealot piety.
Reduce bonus damage to balance it.
spice veldt
though that'd be fairly uninteractive and even more of a passive bonus than it already is
though i agree that the bonuses need tapering down
untold niche
crusher 1 tap works at 11 stack with no PT on myu 78 damage void staff (charge from 80% peril)
am going to try if 80- damage can hit 10 stack
royal ibex
hey i got a random question thats just rocked up, im having my disrupt destiny bug out and not count the talents im running in it 'i got the extra time/2 extra stacks on weakspot kills but its not counting them at all, and the duration is still base
any idea what the fucks happenign and if its something i can fix
untold niche
yuh 80 damage can hit 10 stack
royal ibex
its more im noticing on the buff bar that the stacks vanish at 4s and im not geting extra stacks, so im wondering if its more a visual bug than anything
untold niche
its more im noticing on the buff bar that the stacks vanish at 4s and im not get...
apparently alot of peepo reporting visual bugs
🙏
royal ibex
apparently alot of peepo reporting visual bugs
🙏
god i hope so
untold niche
untold niche
agent stop projecting yourself on these gifs
spiral storm
What guns are good for gunker
potent echo
Yes
untold niche
What guns are good for gunker
volvo / ciag
spiral storm
RECON LASGUN IT IS
royal ibex
let me be the space cowboy i was born to be
potent echo
let me be the space cowboy i was born to be
See you,
half iron
the stub is my favorite staff
plucky flax
agent stop projecting yourself on these gifs
royal ibex
working on a heavy laspistol and newer knoife
spiral storm
What's the blessing you use
if you have surge on voidstrike?
warpnexus or charge speed?
untold niche
What's the perks?
cara + maniac/flak
i run maniac because rager more scary than gunners
potent echo
If you have DD, yea maniac mainly to kill flamers
With DD you don't need unarmored to kill dreg gunners head
spiral storm
game dropped me a near perfect voidstrike
potent echo
Carapace whatever basically
spiral storm
only problem is low chargerate
upper sun
What's the perks?
for surge/nexus void staff?
royal ibex
i should check my flamethrower staff blessings
potent echo
Flak is pretty pointless for void imo
upper sun
id go crit chance+ anything
potent echo
It would kill every flak thing except maulers but you would want to hit the carapace head with DD anyway
plucky flax
I don't full charge against horde.
royal ibex
nexus and flurry t4, nice.
whats aggrivating about the buig is yesterday it was working fine, no visual issues whatsoever with DD, but then i swapped my character out to space sienna and now its not working
brittle cargo
Blaze trauma too bad I need something else to play. Who got good meme builds for psyker?
potent echo
Blaze trauma
royal ibex
i mean gun psyker is half a meme but built right youc an fucking melt monstrosities
potent echo
You want meme(good) or meme(bad)
upper sun
is true blaze trauma gets me kicked out of mission select
strong gulch
Blaze trauma too bad I need something else to play. Who got good meme builds for...
Good meme as in it's a super meme is exorcist + blazing on illisi with SG. Just memes.
upper sun
blazing spirit melee bad
upper sun
exorcist be like "RepeaTED WEAkSPOt HiTs" my brother in the emperor you're just an ass blessing
strong gulch
You can do suppression LMB with terrible barrage or more DPS with surge.
upper sun
one day i will steal the pet of whoever made TB and exorcist
brittle cargo
Is voidstrike optimal choice for LMB memes?
strong gulch
Sure, why not. Trauma and void get access to surge blessing. But surge staff gets crit bonus and has room (because no surge) for funny suppression.
Just stand there shooting balls and make everyone cower before you.
No joke, I have gotten top damage most of the time with LMB spam. It's not amazing, but it's better than you'd think.
This is an old build before the recent DD change.
silk remnant
Can someone recommend a 25% damage perk for the Obscurus force sword
strong gulch
Maniac maybe
I haven't used that sword since the other force swords came out.
royal ibex
ive used maniac and flak armored as my go to's usually
silk remnant
I'm heavily used to it so I just stuck with it, I started only last weekend
seems maniac is the goto
lethal lagoon
maybe thats better for lmb spam
strong gulch
Valid.
If there is no one to answer question or give opinions, the Atheneum in the pins is a great guide for psyker stuff.
lethal lagoon
What's best for LMB is what looks the scariest in the lobby
If people don't recoil in horror in the lobby, and question their lives at the end of the match, is it even an LMB build?
upper sun
CRIT DAMACE CRIT CHANCE SURGE
lethal lagoon
strong gulch
crit damage + stamina
lethal lagoon
CRIT DAMACE CRIT CHANCE SURGE
A lot of people don't know crit damage is bad though
I would even say the majority don't.
strong gulch
ooh good point
upper sun
yeah
royal ibex
if you cause the lobby to recoil int error with a psyker build, its just lore accurate
strong gulch
stam ans spint
upper sun
best part is crit damage is intended to be ass by desgin
strong gulch
Upgraded my staff 🥰
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
royal ibex
Upgraded my staff 🥰
strong gulch
Less magical.
potent echo
Blast point
lethal lagoon
Less magical.
That blast radius...
royal ibex
lmao fuck off
lethal lagoon
royal ibex
fixing my haircut fixed the DD bug
lethal lagoon
I love it
lethal lagoon
I'd love to see what this looks like
With that blast raidus
Ima check tommorow if I have a staff that bad
Maybe I can use my lvl 11 psyker to grab one
Hopefully the mods I used to do this aren't broken
strong gulch
I got the green pants yeee
royal ibex
help
got thrown here from a mutie
still laughing at the 'DD stacks not showing bug got fixed by changign my haircut'
so how we all going today
upper sun
got thrown here from a mutie
ive seen worse
royal ibex
ive seen worse
incredible
strong gulch
I can't out meme my 3 orgyn frens. Got barrel blasted of the edge.
patent wing
some1 explain me why im bad when i dont play for a week
royal ibex
i gotta say i hope they never fix the 'bug' with the mk 4 blaze sword where the second heavy attack when charged floors whatever you hit if you headshot it
patent wing
all staffs got a hidden nerf it must be that
upper sun
some1 explain me why im bad when i dont play for a week
u didnt believe in urself
royal ibex
some1 explain me why im bad when i dont play for a week
Our Beloved was just waking up, He said He's sorry and you should be good to go now.
quartz barn
Simply never sleep
royal ibex
Simply never sleep
bold of you to assume im not caffienated at all times
radiant frigate
CRIT DAMACE CRIT CHANCE SURGE
crit chance cri damage sg surge
upper sun
i would blow up even faster than i do with assail
strong gulch
It was a chill and silly run.
LMB run that is.
We started with a void strike psyker with a good build. They either couldn't deal with what I was doing or got mad that they died and left.
Promising.
royal ibex
LMB run that is.
ive been out of the loop of psyker for a while, been on veteran for ages, whats a LMB build, just not using alt fire on staffs?
strong gulch
ive been out of the loop of psyker for a while, been on veteran for ages, whats ...
It's using a staff's primary as your.... primary. (had to)
It's memes. It's totally healthy coping mechanism for when Hadron bricks a staff, but it unironically does decent damage.
royal ibex
It's using a staff's primary as your.... primary. (had to)
It's memes. It's tot...
ah so when people throw a fit about it its purely nonsense, got it.
strong gulch
Yeah, the ball LMB on staves has a silly amount of ranged suppression. Just bully a reaper.
strong gulch
ah so when people throw a fit about it its purely nonsense, got it.
Behold. Make trash MORE trash.
royal ibex
i like looking back at my staffs and wondering what the fuck i was cooking
upper sun
weakspot is at least slightly better than crit damage
royal ibex
got this one though for my warpfire build and it does work wonders
upper sun
🤔 crit damage might be "ok" on surge voidstrike tho
radiant frigate
nonsense, crit damage more gooder
upper sun
got this one though for my warpfire build and it does work wonders
damn thats peak
royal ibex
kind of wished the dump stat wasnt damage but at that stage im crying over what, 7 damage at most
radiant frigate
indeed
patent wing
i would love to play nexus surge void but i cant stand the slow charge time
strong gulch
Sweet baby beans, the lot of us. We don't know what we don't know. 🥲
upper sun
kind of wished the dump stat wasnt damage but at that stage im crying over what,...
damage on purge only applies to the love tap with lmb
strong gulch
i would love to play nexus surge void but i cant stand the slow charge time
SAME
upper sun
burn at 76 is perfect
strong gulch
But you don't have to fully charge at least
royal ibex
got a dumdum and burn on crit laspistol im using for gun psyker atm, im gonna try get it on the heavier one but naturally hadron and brute have it against me
upper sun
every ciag i rolled for vet and zealot is good to great
marble crater
Such is the gunker life, you are supposed to use funny magic sticks
radiant frigate
colum🅱️us
radiant frigate
Such is the gunker life, you are supposed to use funny magic sticks
sufficiently advanced marksmanship is indistinguishable from magic
marble crater
upper sun
shovels are the only reason id play vet tbh
id love a pcycle 4 bromomentum 4 psword though to see how it feels
this is the only thing that lets me have fun on vet
untold niche
every ciag and laspistol i rolled for psyker bricked
What about volvo
Also just roll more ezpz
upper sun
whats a volvo?
untold niche
Revolver
marble crater
id love a pcycle 4 bromomentum 4 psword though to see how it feels
Feels awesome for 3 swings, then you need to activate it again, gets old real quick, imo
upper sun
Revolver
yeah nar also bricked every single one
i dont spam buy at brunts anymore if he has something good in the store i roll that
rigid sky
Feels awesome for 3 swings, then you need to activate it again, gets old real qu...
I dig it tbh
It's better if you block cancel
But it does get old after a while
Shovel 7 is the new PS6
upper sun
3 is good too 😭
upper sun
ayo melk finally gave me opening salvo on headhunter
radiant frigate
Shovel 7 is the new PS6
is it now
marble crater
I mean, yeah, you can just slice every horde that comes your way, but I didn't like the dodge distance and needing to activate it every 3 attacks, I'm also using the shovel 7 now, and spam the folding special in elevators
radiant frigate
i have only ever realy used power sword on vet
not sure if i would consider the others to be main weapon material
half iron
i’ve only used shovel on vet
radiant frigate
certainly not devil's claw
marble crater
Try one of the new shovels, they are nice
strong gulch
IDK why all psykers abandon their shovels the moment that they get a drop of "trust".
strong gulch
I mean psykers. We can dig too.
half iron
if there was a force shovel i’d be a one-trick
marble crater
Power Cycler 4 Thammer when? Fatshark please
strong gulch
Blazing spirit 4 on staves too
marble crater
Nooo, then I need to roll a new Trauma
strong gulch
Also red trauma. 100 stats will be bonkers
untold niche
https://tenor.com/view/sheathing-the-sword-puff-meow-chef-that-little-puff-slici...
M-iai-ow
royal ibex
shovels are the only reason id play vet tbh
i enjoy vet for the whole 'no fancy tricks/powers/being a big lad, just training, a shovel and revolver, and a real nark on since your planet exploded' vibe
radiant frigate
i enjoy vet for the whole 'no fancy tricks/powers/being a big lad, just training...
"no fancy tricks/powers" (can reload a revolver without putting new rounds in)
sounds like magic to me
royal ibex
also the delivery for the Voice of Command lines for Male Cutthroat is just fucking peak
lethal lagoon
i enjoy vet for the whole 'no fancy tricks/powers/being a big lad, just training...
Literally grunts and makes the whole team immortal
upper sun
why cant i have malice enemy health bars with damnation enemy amounts?
i just wanna do my penances in melee range 😭
lethal lagoon
Helldivers 2 is perfect difficulty settings, no changes in damage or enemy health
Just changes in enemy comp and amount
It's also the same dead game engine, funny enough
upper sun
bruh doing the ep penance in malice is so chill
i can tank 3 shotgunners while charging bb in melee range
lethal lagoon
Oh you're dying
*grunts
Whole team revives
For real though, getting multiple people up with shout is such a pwoer fantasy
What a cool ability
royal ibex
could be worse, could be zealot with 'holds up inquisition seal, enemies stunlocked to oblivion'
lethal lagoon
Nets are hitscanned
That's honestly one of the worst problems in the game
They should be a projectile
lethal lagoon
Like I don't care if they buff them, but hitscan insta death just feels bad.
Also keep in mind I basically don't get trapped unless I'm playing Og
Not a Skill Issue(tm)
upper sun
lemme see if i can find my best trapper net
lethal lagoon
You know a net is bullshit if it catches you and you don't move
radiant frigate
when the trapper yoinks you through a corner
radiant frigate
:)
lethal lagoon
And it's like motherfucker how'd I get netted then
I'd love to see an Auric Maelstrom tunned to be as hard as possible, but no specials, just to see what it's like
Like does the game really need unfun mechanics in order to be balanced, or will it function without it
Cause I get why specials exist, game would be a snooze fest autowalk
But what if it they didn't
upper sun
also everyone would speed run all the time
upper sun
one no specials game mode would be dope
no
ive seen people solo entire damnation missions
lethal lagoon
All nurge blessing crushers with 100% movement spd and 25% atk spd
Like come on, there has to be an option other than getting trapped through 3 barriers.
Melee maelstrom is a fun game mode, let's get super hard but no specials
lethal lagoon
ive seen people solo entire damnation missions
I mean bug abuse speedruns are a different question, but yeah damnation is definitely soloable.
upper sun
ok i cant find the clip but essentially i saw a trapper down a ledge and i jumped to kill it but it sniped me mid air and i went back up to the ledge before my jump
upper sun
I mean bug abuse speedruns are a different question, but yeah damnation is defin...
at least two were legit
lethal lagoon
Legit for a given value, unless you mean normal damnation
upper sun
auric damn
upper sun
eh spawn rates can very quite heavily
lethal lagoon
Yeah but a lot of missions have parts you either need teammates or bots for, it's tough to find a true solo with no bugs doing auric damn, I just don't see it without some sort of abuse.
Maybe not straight up bug abuse, but enough abuse that it's not legit
upper sun
there was one in the cryo rods mission
two people skipped directly to the last section
idk how they did it
plucky flax
shovels are the only reason id play vet tbh
Basic shovel best.
upper sun
basic shovel bad 
lethal lagoon
Basic shovel best.
Have you tried solo auric damn?
rigid sky
Basic shovel best.
There's just something primal about being able to walk into a Crushers face and oneshot them, with a fucking shovel.
patent wing
agentchaos does solo auric maelstroms with trauma
plucky flax
Have you tried solo auric damn?
No I don't enjoy solo. Because then it becomes zealot speed run and skip.
rigid sky
Plus the animation for the folding shovel killing big guys is delicious
The 2 part hit where withdrawing the shovel is what makes them drop
plucky flax
There's just something primal about being able to walk into a Crushers face and ...
I don't like folding shovel it's too hard for my brain.
lethal lagoon
I mean you can do it in a non-cheesy way, but yeah, that's my thought on it too
patent wing
but it only works on certain maps where u have room to kite
lethal lagoon
I tried to do it with EP surge bug just to test how OP the weapon is.
plucky flax
Hrm then it becomes pick and choose.
radiant frigate
imagine if the surge EP bug came back in the current iteration of EP
triple damage surge
lethal lagoon
But there were too many spawns while killing the boss(surge was bugged agaisnt bosses, not even the surge EP bug could cover).
I'd just quit till they fix that
It was so annoying the first time.
radiant frigate
Yes
lethal lagoon
Every game would be like two surge psykers, fuck me lmao
radiant frigate
best part is that i didn't even know that that interaction was broken
i just came back to the game and made a talent setup
noticed surge was two-shotting crushers
figured something might be up
patch notes said it was supposed to be more of a single target thing now
as opposed to The Before Times
so i thought ok it just does that now
lethal lagoon
I ran the EP bug once, did my entire team's damage, and my overkill was greater than 2nd place damage.
And was like okay, how are people saying this is balanced
How bad are they at the game lmao
Steam Dicussion Forums(tm)
radiant frigate
far from balanced
radiant frigate
i was complaining about how surge was treading all over brain burst because it has like half the cast time and same damage
or more
upper sun
surge should have better second target scalling
rigid sky
Brain rupture was just shite when the talent tree first game out
It really upset me tbh, I just wanted to play my old style psyker at first
supple dock
then they added like 50 damage to it and it was exactly what we needed
frail pasture
Yeah burst is good rn on certain builds
rigid sky
It took me ages to branch out and try actually playing with the talents lol
frail pasture
like purg
rigid sky
Also good on trauma
I love getting games where I end up being the main ranged elite killer with EP BR
radiant frigate
It took me ages to branch out and try actually playing with the talents lol
i played with the new stuff first
lethal lagoon
remember when BB activated Perilous combustion simply by hitting something?
radiant frigate
mostly assail and sg
lethal lagoon
Pepperidge farms remembers
radiant frigate
remember when BB activated Perilous combustion simply by hitting something?
must have been before and after my time
lethal lagoon
It was a very short period lmao
I don't even remember the specifics, I just remember it hit a lot of breakpoints, like for Og gunners and was amazing
About the same amount of time as the Force Sword deflector bug
Where the new force swords had innate deflector
Which means that was probably the original plan for Ob and they copy and pasted commented out code without thinking
rigid sky
My first new build I tried was voidstrike DD SG
manic halo
Where the new force swords had innate deflector
GLORY DAYS
GLOOORY DAYS
i remeber that shit well
rigid sky
It was fucking miserable and I turned into a zealot main lmao
lethal lagoon
There is litearlly no reason it shouldn't be that way.
The shield animation is literally designed that way
They literally coded it so that it was supposed to do that
I have no idea why they changed their mind
manic halo
we on the same wavelength sibling
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
I literally had you in my "active now" list because of how many times you yelled at me for that.
manic halo
that was a bad time
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
Hit direct messages and look to the right
manic halo
wtf
this discord shits insane
only learnt how to use italics yesterday
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
and this
lethal lagoon
Crtl I is super old?
radiant frigate
deflector should be innate!!!
lethal lagoon
Like it's as old as microsoft
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
Yeah?
radiant frigate
why am i projecting a force barrier with my hand if it does not block bullets by default
manic halo
The GOCK
half iron
why am i projecting a force barrier with my hand if it does not block bullets *b...
hadron did this on purpose. she is cooking.
manic halo
Doesn't work fo rme
lethal lagoon
I used it and you can't stop me
radiant frigate
idk works for me
radiant frigate
funny overhead heavy
lethal lagoon
Obscurus
radiant frigate
better horde clear than deimos
lethal lagoon
I literally only talk in italics now created by using control I
lethal lagoon
What does the obscura sword even have
l1 animation cancel spam
lethal lagoon
You have to start typing to override the discord hotkeys
Use crtl A for the first word if needed
LIke
bold badger
Wait until you learn ctrl b does bold
lethal lagoon
This
lethal lagoon
you have to start typing or use crtl A to highlight the first word
royal ibex
hadron pls
lethal lagoon
You can use control I halfway without highlight
It's just inbox overwrites it if you haven't started typing
manic halo
ill hilight you halfway in a minute
half iron
hadron is being a meaniehead in the melee department on my end
lethal lagoon
hadron hates bad weapons like the new laspistol
She's saving you
She's protecting you
She is justice itself
half iron
hadron won’t stop me from seeking the perfect knife
radiant frigate
hadron won’t stop me from seeking the perfect knife
why not seek a good enough knife
seeking the perfect knife is a fool's errand
untold niche
U USE CONTROL I
b 4 bold u for underline ulululu i for italiks
radiant frigate
i cannot believe this
half iron
why not seek a good enough knife
i have a good enough knife. i just want a gooder enough knife🥴
lethal lagoon
__I am __
untold niche
T for paste without formatting
radiant frigate
what if i combine them all
lethal lagoon
Alt f4 to fix the problem where you get bot spams.
radiant frigate
no
bold badger
lol...
radiant frigate
it has also been eternities since i last used word
untold niche
wat r u? vim purist?
lethal lagoon
Word is but a word
radiant frigate
vim?
royal ibex
hadron won’t stop me from seeking the perfect knife
me either, i will play as the happiest man in birmingham on every class the game lets me
untold niche
supple dock
what is a word, a miserable pile of secrets
radiant frigate
me either, i will play as the happiest man in birmingham on every class the game...
peak london gameplay
lethal lagoon
Peak internet days was when you could actually get people to leave online games with alt f4
royal ibex
peak london gameplay
any carnival mission is the calmest run down to tescos
radiant frigate
gogol that
i see
half iron
me either, i will play as the happiest man in birmingham on every class the game...
even my ogryn is a knife zealot
lethal lagoon
Knife is S tier while all other weapons are B-tier
"We should nerf the knife and buff the other weapons"
Makes a different Knife the best weapon instead
Ogryn gaming
royal ibex
peak fartshart moment
radiant frigate
i started enjoying ogryn a lot more since i started using ogryn knife
lethal lagoon
I enjoy MK3 Hammer cause it takes 0 brain power
It has the same answer for every enemy you face
Heavy bonk
radiant frigate
bonkus maximus
royal ibex
'check steam, no update for remnant 2 queued' pls gunfire, i want the dlc
lethal lagoon
Ogryn shouldn't be thinking
Give me roguelike mode for Remnant 2 and you will never see me again
I have like 400 hours in the first remnant roguelike mode
It's co-op too, because fuck sleeping.
untold niche
Give me roguelike mode for Remnant 2 and you will never see me again
_ i think you should try nioh 2_
fringe meadow
Is smite good on damnation for crowd control or should I just not use it
lethal lagoon
I've played all the major souls likes
royal ibex
i farmed a bunch of shards once i found out they released the OG Savior
potent echo
Nioh 2 evangelist is back
untold niche
play nioh2 without playing it like ds3
Actually stance switch, learn the tech, etcc
potent echo
Nioh 2 isnt really a soulslike
royal ibex
counterpoint : no
potent echo
It's more like diablo with a huge skill ceiling
lethal lagoon
Nioh 2 isnt really a soulslike
Nioh copied fromsoftware and made a worse souls game
Fromsoftware copied Nioh and made a better Ninja Gaiden
shy prairie
royal ibex
i just wanna shoot more things with a funny dog
potent echo
You're wrong
untold niche
Nioh copied fromsoftware and made a worse souls game
Fromsoftware copied Nioh an...
its a worse souls game only because you play it like a souls game
nioh 2 play like souls --> dumb poo poo game with big monster titi that ds3 fanboys trash on reddit
Nioh 2 play like nioh 2--> one of the best single player action games, rivals DMC
royal ibex
thats a take
lethal lagoon
Nah I like Nioh, but inspiration is obvious
I always tried to force a magic build because I love mages
untold niche
yeah there is the inspiration, but i found ds3 combat boring, while nioh 2 combat was one of the most fun shit i ever touched
lethal lagoon
untold niche
I always tried to force a magic build because I love mages
technically you can? but you still need to melee
learn how to feather IC cancel
lemme link a vid
lethal lagoon
Nioh 2 was nicer to pure mages
You could do a lot of the content without melee
Nioh 1 was not, yeah.
Nah, you don't need to link a vid, i played a lot of both games and watched stuff
I still think it's a soulslike, you just happen to not like souls
royal ibex
idk nothing has topped bloodborne for me yet
lethal lagoon
wait does that not use an item?
untold niche
I still think it's a soulslike, you just happen to not like souls
yeah, i find ds3 combat boring. everyone circle jerking over it in 2016 just because they beat hard game was funny
lethal lagoon
Use*
royal ibex
yeah, i find ds3 combat boring. everyone circle jerking over it in 2016 just bec...
ds3 just being a 'run fast weapons to stunlock everything' was so fucking boring.
lethal lagoon
yeah, i find ds3 combat boring. everyone circle jerking over it in 2016 just bec...
So I assume you hated Elden Ring too?
royal ibex
dark sword spam pls
untold niche
ds3 just being a 'run fast weapons to stunlock everything' was so fucking boring...
no, i use slow weapon, equally boring.
Wait for attack, dodge, hit 1-2 time depending on your weapon, always same attack
shy prairie
d r a g o n s t o o t h
lethal lagoon
Ds3 is a much better experience after all the balance patches I will say
royal ibex
Ds3 is a much better experience after all the balance patches I will say
eh, if i wanted bloodborne combat id of kept my ps4 for bloodborne
untold niche
before i get flamed, i have to say what i don't like is the combat.
Im sure ds3 does bettee than nioh 2 on everything else like atmosphere, mazey map, variety of enemies etc
untold niche
So I assume you hated Elden Ring too?
no try elden ring, just look like more beautiful ds3
lethal lagoon
ds3 combat is peak performance from my perspective, I have yet to play a better action game.
untold niche
lethal lagoon
It's kinda interesting to hear such different opinions on what I view is a perfect game
royal ibex
ds3 combat is peak performance from my perspective, I have yet to play a better ...
it had some good weapons for sure, my fave at the end of it all was the Heysel Pick, since i like the hybrid weapon/casting focus type weapons
lethal lagoon
no try elden ring, just look like more beautiful ds3
That is, accurate. Basically Ds3 Open world perfected.
untold niche
ds3 like learning pre calc then you think you smart because you understand hard stuffs
nioh 2 like you learn algorithims and theres a whole new perspective
lethal lagoon
Nioh 2 is like Organic Calc. Professors make it unreasonablely hard and then the rest of the biology major is super easy.
The intro is just weird, and then the game get's easy
untold niche
theres like actual combo videos on nioh 2
THeres alot of actual tech as well, tech that require you to thumb stuff, tech that only works for certain situations in the sense (i.e. you want to instantly use weapon swap skill) that you ahve to memorize and then when you incorporate stuff its awesoem as hell
see its not about defeating the boss
that is typical ds3 mindset
its about doing it in style
lethal lagoon
By your logic Forspoken is a good game
Go watch some spell combo videos
(just to be clear, I'm not saying nioh 1-2 is bad)
untold niche
its also not easy to do it in style
of course if it just looks cool but its easy then thats another thing
why do you think DMC so popular
to "beat" the game i can just press one button
ez clear
lethal lagoon
I would consider DMC a cult classic.
untold niche
its because there is a very very high skill ceiling and player expression
lethal lagoon
But like DMC has ratings
So that's not the same thing
It's a part of the game
You can't just "ez clear" the game because you'll get a big fat C
untold niche
you still clearing, from a practical perspective the rating is just to encourage you to be more stylish
lethal lagoon
if I download cheat engine, I'm also still clearing
untold niche
like i can arbitrarily give you ratings on nioh 2 as well
untold niche
huh :v
lethal lagoon
My least favorite part of souls is the game is balanced around not using summons or magic
Nioh is balanced around not using combos and other niche features
Those things break the core game
untold niche
my point is its not just about clearing the boss, its doing it in like the coolest way possible.
Its like, technically if you can fly plane you can go for point A - B, but good pilot can do barrel rolls or whatever shit
i mean of course you have to discuss it with the spirit of what i am saying rather than nitpick what i say
lethal lagoon
yeah, Souls has a lot of artifical difficulty metrics like that, where it doesn't count if you do X to beat the game.
And the game is less fun to beat if you steam roll it with X
They are the same in that reguard
untold niche
And the game is less fun to beat if you steam roll it with X
ya, for me nioh2 is less fun if i play it like dark souls
almost feel like turn based game lol
lethal lagoon
Ohhh I see more of what you mean
untold niche
i wouldn't play nioh 2 at all if i had to play it like ds3
thats why i say nioh 2 is like algos
you see a whole new world
lethal lagoon
I mean you can play souls like that
The hitboxes are famously tight and there's lots of things you can do offensively to keep things going
untold niche
The hitboxes are famously tight and there's lots of things you can do offensivel...
yeah but, not much variety as compared to nioh 2 from what i seen
lethal lagoon
There is a difference between cosmetic variety and actual variety though. I will admit I never deleved into Nioh 2 endgame or anything though.
Like if two different things do functionally the same thing, it's not actually variety.
untold niche
with ki pulse you need to stance switch, so yeah you already need to be in another stance.
and like maybe only weapon switch / weapon draw move let you say move forward while attacking, if that makes sese
snese
fuck
i think hatchet and scythe is a good showcase of nioh 2, but of course you really need to watch the right person (for hatchet at least.
usually low stance is fast, so apply stacks quickly, or to conserve ki, mid stance is aoe, swing attacks and some other stuffs depending on weapon. high stance is range and damage
sometime you maybe want to switch stance to use a move that is only available in the stance
marble crater
I wanted to farm EP kills with smite on pox hound waves, but my team killed all the hounds before me 
untold niche
I wanted to farm EP kills with smite on pox hound waves, but my team killed all ...
when i see blue glow on doggie i make sure to kill it
ain't risking doggie pounce just for other guy's penance
but thats bb
not smite
of course if doggie smited
you know what i have to do
marble crater
Still kill it 
runic mural
am
untold niche
https://tenor.com/view/sad-monkey-crying-monkey-stucksixteen-gif-26340862
this tme the monkey is u
runic mural
am i losing it i've seen this convo in this chat before like word for word and i think i've lost my mind to the warp
lethal lagoon
with ki pulse you need to stance switch, so yeah you already need to be in anoth...
To me stance switch felt like "Let's force you to switch to this less effective moveset and then switch back to the actual one for some random bonus cause reasons"
untold niche
To me stance switch felt like "Let's force you to switch to this less effective ...
nope, different stances have stance specific skills as well as what i typed.
lethal lagoon
Same idea
untold niche
not really :v you don't want to be in high stance to apply stacks...
lethal lagoon
Certain stances were just objectively better, and having to switch felt like a punishment for the ki bonus
untold niche
not really :v you don't want to be in high stance to apply stacks...
there are times when stuffs are more important than pure damage.
i.e. you need to apply stacks fast to get confusion on
or if boss is weak to element
lethal lagoon
I mean if you wanna talk debuffs, just apply slow
marble crater
am i losing it i've seen this convo in this chat before like word for word and i...
Which one?
lethal lagoon
untold niche
I mean if you wanna talk debuffs, just apply slow
slow messes up muscle memory, but confusion is generally the best one
(i assume you know what that is)
runic mural
Which one?
the one about dark souls the soul..... Ah nvmind it was discord showing me the wrong dates ;w;
lethal lagoon
it's been years, so I don't remember a game specific term that does random effect, no
untold niche
not really :v you don't want to be in high stance to apply stacks...
aoe attacks have swings too, heavy stance might not hit.
untold niche
it's been years, so I don't remember a game specific term that does random effec...
make you deal ton more damage
its a debuff that happens if you apply two elements
lethal lagoon
Oh
Yeah
I didn't notice much of a spd differnece based on stance
I thought they had different application rates per swing
untold niche
so yeah, that would obviously be way more vauable than "hey let me deal 20 more damage right now to this 20k hp boss"
marble crater
the one about dark souls the soul..... Ah nvmind it was discord showing me the w...
getting trolled by discord
untold niche
I thought they had different application rates per swing
not only its "faster" i just remembered because of what you said, the amount you apply per swing for different attacks / skills is different as well
so yes nioh 2 is nuanced
lethal lagoon
Right, so, your argument about bad stances actually mattering doesn't matter?
lethal lagoon
untold niche
i mean nto "need" as in "need" to beat this boss
but i assume you already get what i am saying
lethal lagoon
I get it, but you are describing Nioh as being good for all the reasons I dislike souls
untold niche
again i would prefer if people try to understand the spirit of what i am saying so i don't have to type disclaimmers such as that
lethal lagoon
Nah, I'm looking for the spirit, I have no bias
Why would I be mad that I have more games to replay/enjoy
I always wanted to do nioh 2 end game, just never felt like it
untold niche
I get it, but you are describing Nioh as being good for all the reasons I dislik...
so sorry, what did you nto like about soul
You said souls limiting, but i don't find nioh 2 limiting, if you don't abuse the stuff like i said, at most you have worse clear times or don't look as cool. as you have observed nioh 2 is an easy game ot just "beat"
lethal lagoon
I don't like features that make the game more intereting being unrelated to actually beating the game
untold niche
for me the fun is learning about the different tech and trying to incorporate it, also int omy playstyle and onto the different bosses
lethal lagoon
That's fun for me, but not in a game like a action RPG
Darktide, that's fun.
Helldivers, that's fun
But a game with a set course and story, meh
Probably why I never really "got" DMC despite trying to
untold niche
hmmm, technically nioh 2 you would keep replaying even after the 5th run because there are like the uh different "modes" that let you rapidly fight bosses, or fight obsses with like modifiers
But yeah so i guess its more of a personal "i like/don't like this" thing
lethal lagoon
You know, Nioh would be a way better game if it didn't try to be a soulslike
that's what I'm getting from this conversation
Should have just made a fucking game
untold niche
uh to me its still a game
lethal lagoon
Right, but it could be better if it didn't try to copy souls
untold niche
i don't have biases because its a souls like
i think it still need for lesser enemies
because the lesser enemies fight feel different
lethal lagoon
ehh, I think you are missing the part of what makes it a soulslike because you don't like souls
lethal lagoon
The general route of fight small enemies, with some stronger ones mixed in, then fight boss, then area over. Combined with souls on death, bonfires, stamina for dodging, and general vibe.
Like what if it was just a standard RPG with saves
untold niche
the one about dark souls the soul..... Ah nvmind it was discord showing me the w...
most likely its just you saw me preaching about nioh 2 before.
I feel its a very good game, much more fun than ds3.
My personal experience was --> Try ds3 (everyone online say omg so fun!!111!!). Hard, but not fun, boring.
Try nioh 2 because friend say just try. This quite fun, holy shit this is so fun.
Which made me wonder about the ~2016 ds3 circle jerk online but nobody really talk about nioh 2
untold niche
Like what if it was just a standard RPG with saves
wouldn't work, you won't be forced to learn enemy moveset
runic mural
ah it was specifically someone talking about burning the dogs for a pennance in darktide
untold niche
but of course, nioh2 kind of lets you get away with it
kind of.
nioh 2 run between checkpoint and runs to boss from last checkpoint is admittedly way more forgiving than ds3
lethal lagoon
Than ds3? I strongly disagree.
Ds3 had super friendly runs compared to the souls series in general
And was from my memeory more friendly than nioh 2
untold niche
from what i know for some bosses for ds3, run to boss from last checkpoint you have to fight some enemies
nioh 2 you can just run striaght through xD
and ds3 i feel is harder between checkpoints because of the pathing
lethal lagoon
You can run straight through for every boss in ds3
untold niche
nioh 2 is like way more direct
other than the fucking temple mission
i hate that one
lethal lagoon
I think this is a skill issue from both sides, because I did not find the nioh 2 runs easy
untold niche
lethal lagoon
Like yeah there was some checkpoints posted outside a boss room but lots wern't.
untold niche
I think this is a skill issue from both sides, because I did not find the nioh 2...
i dont mean easy or hard as in hard to clear, i just mean time taken / how "smooth" it is
But i think you right too.
lethal lagoon
yeah, that's what I meant too
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
The first major area in Elden Ring would make you cry
Most convuleted castle ever made
Man you should do Elden Ring anyways, that's like a game of an era
untold niche
|| i don't even like monkeys that much its just reaction gifs of monekys are perfect ||
lethal lagoon
Monkies are eerie man
Okay back to the original topic
Remanent 1 roguelike is the best roguelike of all time
urban sandal
from what i know for some bosses for ds3, run to boss from last checkpoint you _...
ds3 is memed on because of how often it has bonfires littered around when they didnt need to be there at all
lethal lagoon
:^
urban sandal
you could cut about a quarter of the bonfires in ds3 and it would still be fine
lethal lagoon
Would you like a checkpoint on your checkpoint on your checkpoint?
untold niche
Remanent 1 roguelike is the best roguelike of all time
my friend say remnant just shoot gun xD so i didn't bother to try
roguelike i wouldn't dare to call any best, but my favourite is hades because it doesn't feel pointless like some runs in dead cells
again dats my favourite
i am not good judge of roguelike i feel
lethal lagoon
Lore incorporated deaths in a roguelike is just fucking wild
urban sandal
didnt like remnant 1 but remnant 2 is pretty good
lethal lagoon
hades is goated
lethal lagoon
But remnant 1 is a normal game that has a roguelike mode using the normal game elements.
Like imagine a roguelike but it's nioh 2 combat and leveling
Wouldn't that be your favorite?
untold niche
im making the distinction between ds3 and nioh2, because ds3 combat to me is very cut and dry, which is what remnant combat seems to be (and also because everyone calls it ds but with guns)
thats why the cheeky monkey giggle
lethal lagoon
Its ds with guns because it's a souls liek, but the combat isn't really similar at all
Honestly it's probably the least souls like souls like
It was more marketing to get people to play
urban sandal
calling it dark souls with guns is very reductive
untold niche
sanguinius why you like R2>R1
lethal lagoon
Because it's r1 but better
urban sandal
feels better to play, melee combat felt more fleshed out, better bosses and unique weapons etc
untold niche
then why you like r2 more than r1 @lethal lagoon
urban sandal
also I had a pet dog
urban sandal
they still have a dlc to come, they might bring it back with that
lethal lagoon
r2 is better in everyway
urban sandal
I haven't played their first dlc yet
lethal lagoon
I'm saving all the DLC after I learned it's just one storyline instead of one biome
I wanna do a hardcore run with a friend once it's all released
urban sandal
but yeah they feel almost nothing like dark souls
untold niche
"i dont know" "alot of community asking for it" "dev says no plans"
lethal lagoon
But at least they didn't deny it
So the problem with souls, and nioh as well, is that the bosses arent really balanced for ranged attacks
Remnant 1 had this problem and the ways it solved it wasn't always great
And then Remnant 2 did a lot better job solving these problems
untold niche
nioh 2 ranged attack balance = very little damage, take long to shoot, limited ammo
lethal lagoon
yeah, but while you had stuff to spam it was definitely waaay easier than melee
same thing for every souls game
Magic is the easy mode
So a gun-like souls runs into that problem headfirst because ranged is the default
So they solved it in remnant 1 in ways that weren't necessarily that fun(adds for example)
But remnant 2 did a lot better balancing things
urban sandal
no
but tbf I never gave it a real go, stopped playing shortly after I beat that big bull dude right at the start
untold niche
urban sandal
I can barely remember it lol
lethal lagoon
untold niche
but tbf I never gave it a real go, stopped playing shortly after I beat that big...
the first one actually optional
urban sandal
yeah ik but I felt like doing it anyway
untold niche
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urban sandal
got about halfway through the first area and stopped
untold niche
yeah ik but I felt like doing it anyway
took me like 30 tries on that first bull i think
after like third third time i realized it was probably better i just focus on learning to dodge it so i just did actual death runs
urban sandal
cant remember how many attempts it took me but it was about 20 minutes
untold niche
like dodge until i die
untold niche
cant remember how many attempts it took me but it was about 20 minutes
i think, i took three hours...
urban sandal
I was using odachi and switchblade I think
untold niche
urban sandal
cant wait for elden ling dlc
lethal lagoon
I was using the scythe, I can't recall him giving me trouble
untold niche
I was using the scythe, I can't recall him giving me trouble
i think it would have went quicker if i stayed high stance but i wanted to only dodge on low stance
lethal lagoon
cant wait for elden ling dlc <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
I liked hearing about how the progression system is going to be different
Like is it just going to be basically a full on different game?
Rogue-like?
Who the fuck knows but my body is ready
urban sandal
definitely wont be a rogue like, they'd have said if it was gonna be really different than usual
urban sandal
I'd put money on it
urban sandal
sekiro boss rush mode in their other games would be sick
I don't wanna go through the whole game again to fight malenia and maliketh
untold niche
imagine malenia but two
untold niche
lethal lagoon
I don't think fromsoftware actually allows mods, their code is just shit and easily accessiable.
untold niche
malenia with 100% more hp, with horse boss 100% more hp
Triple doggie boss with more damage
cerberus
urban sandal
iirc they deliberately ignore the mods scene since acknowledging it could cause issues since their rules state they aren't allowed but they know mods increase replay value
