psyker-class

[lethal minnow]

But only if team coherencive enough

[tough cipher]

I can see it being easier yeah but eh would say it also just depends on the player you are and the people you're with

[lethal minnow]

And smite + purgatus is really overkill, if I would pick smite I would go with void staff

[patent steeple]

yup! actually, its no wonder we kept losing, partially because of that but also due to the maelstrom having been like +specials AND +muties iirc...

[near drift]

Smite and purg both that's cringe

[lethal minnow]

Please send me both versions, I'm curious. Not gonna say anything about them, just want to look at them

[marble crater]

And illisi for melee too?

[untold niche]

i haven't tried so am interestedi n your experience,
bad because too hard to stack to 24 because of 4 seconds?

[marble crater]

Sure, one sec

[tough cipher]

Like I can safely say I'm pretty trash when it comes to this game. ( trying to improve tho so hey, who knows )

But whenever I hop into random auric maelstroms, still iffy if we clear tbh but usualy feels smoother if i go bubble + smite.

I just don't like the playstyle so I'm trying to get better at running shriek > bubble but yeah, unless your psyker is good i can see it being a convenience thing

[untold niche]

wouldnt assail work for purg too :v

[patent steeple]

i dont remember that detail (i was playing ogryn and didn't exactly pay attention to what our psyker was using as melee, i only remember illisi wasnt suggested by the others)

[untold niche]

@upper sun @patent steeple plos give me your reviews

on 25 stack DD

[lethal minnow]

I have this loadout. Very powerful. Purg for area denial + clear. Duealing sword for single target melee + assail for special spam removal

[upper sun]

not usable below heresy high inten

[untold niche]

how come?
whats the problem, too hard to stack?

[upper sun]

ye

[untold niche]

fak

[small zenith]

Most psyker builds work on Auric Mael - i usually cater to the modifiers though, no?

[untold niche]

so basically DD got nerfed

this patch full of nerfs

[marble crater]

@lethal minnow I run bubble with purgatus and ds4, and smite with surge and illisi.
Purgatus is by far my least favorite though and the only one I use shield with

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-mono-sad-cry-disappointed-gif-14274173653447956878

[patent steeple]

its decent if you happen to headshot kill every DD target in quick succession, otherwise you are at 0 stacks all the time...

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-orangutan-monkeyoflife-gif-25785555

time to grind for BT

[marble crater]

Okay, because that would be full meme build

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/giantsbetta-small-monkey-monkey-backpack-monkey-gif-661165206272321637

AGENT CHAOS

HERE I COME

[patent steeple]

tbh, having guaranteed headshot kills with Kinetic Resonance-boosted Brain Rupture was actually very fun for my attempts at stacking DD with no extra duration... mostly because the stagger from Brain Rupture actually refreshes the DD timer

[hasty kraken]

Can assail crit?

[untold niche]

yeah it becomes purple

[hasty kraken]

hELLLL YEAHA

[untold niche]

i guess asail will work with DD 25 stack?

[lethal minnow]

thanks. What about smite augmentations? They are not worth it? Also I know I said I wouldn't say anything about builds, but I pretty much sure that taking True Aim is always worth it with Assail

[untold niche]

yeah smite uagments are bad

[plucky flax]

[untold niche]

slightly outdated, and assail you only need the top one

[lethal minnow]

I can understand just +10% base, but does +1 jump really so bad? I just don't really know how it exactly works

[lethal minnow]

And why exactly True Aim isn't considered here?

[untold niche]

from what i remember, usually you don't hit max target in games

There were tests done by regulars here and they all agreed its not worth the point

[marble crater]

I only smite if there is a lot of armor, and I don't really have the points for it, same with true aim I guess, but I will try assail with DD soon for the penance, so maybe I will use that instead

[patent steeple]

unless you want to use Smite for the purposes of killing soulfire-affected enemies to get Warp Charges, in which case Enfeeble is actually (at least somewhat) viable.

[untold niche]

i htink if you ran something like purg you wouldn't pick it up.
Or bubble trauma

[upper sun]

+1 jump isnt really that good the guy who posts the side to side smite comparison isnt on right now so you have to take our word for it

[lethal minnow]

EP + Assail + True Aim + Perilous Combustion in my experience is very nasty combo

[untold niche]

but yes generally you would take it.

[lethal minnow]

It works for assail, so why not?

[marble crater]

you are saying I can save a point in assail?

[upper sun]

ye

regen is fine

[untold niche]

hmmm, im actually not sure, i was guessing the crit on assail doesn't matter much since you will be shooting gunners. --> for this specific example i might be wrong.
then i think bubble trauma. would be a build where you don't run true aim

And like i said generally you would take it yeah.

even the top right red cross, you need to take it if you want to from assail to middle aura

its just if you don't do that path its useless

from:j.str has:image is whack now because of all the monkey gifs smh

[lethal minnow]

In my experience on psyker on Aurics when there is any type of specials just bunched up together this thing just starts shredding them, and actually this even can be used on mauler pack. Not really efficently but they would take noticable damage. And for mixed packs, ragers, any type of gunners. It's still useless against ogryns tho

[wet belfry]

It can be alot of hoops just to buff a blitz ability instead of buffing every tool at the same time with ex disrupt destiny or warp charge or toughness.

Yes assail becomes really strong but its at the detriment of every other weapon.

[lethal minnow]

I just press LMB after pressing G and it somehow works on big enough packs that are threat for my team

[wet belfry]

Ultimately assail also isn’t an infinite supply but finite to the amount of stacks.

[untold niche]

@wet belfry assail with EP DD doesn't need crits right, from what i remember. No new breakpoints

[wet belfry]

They run out and your dps is cut hard.

I dont know psyker BPs

Espically not assail

I made the conclusion for awhile ago that blitz abilities are wastes of time.

[untold niche]

i saw agent run EP DD assail with i think surge

[wet belfry]

Ye and he probably loses out on a huge part of BPs with surge

No 2 shotting maulers or 1 shotting trappers.

[untold niche]

wait does surge hit count as headshots

[wet belfry]

No its body

[untold niche]

fs preparing to buff surge...

[wet belfry]

It could use it.

[untold niche]

but ya i feel you know more than me about assail.
That guide is for newer peeps too.
If you know what you are doing and have tested BPs its fine

[wet belfry]

Its not really even a high performance weapon against armored targets…

Let alone everything else.

[untold niche]

doesnt it 2 hit crushers

[wet belfry]

No

[untold niche]

if your assail is your "sub" weapon then yeah

[wet belfry]

I think the only real target something like surge might outperform trauma in is mainly killing crushers?

[rigid sky]

Surge is just voidstrike for basic bitches

(Disclaimer: sometimes I am a basic bitch)

[wet belfry]

Its probably also minorly faster at killing separate maulers

[untold niche]

surge crusher TTK compared to void from charge up isn't even that far off especially when you consider surge has zero pierce.

dats wat i remember, thats why i thought it can 1 hit

[wet belfry]

Regardless trauma is way more multi-purposed in being able to deal with everything.

[untold niche]

i mean 2 hit

:v

surge should 1 hit crushers

[wet belfry]

Most of all the dumb delay for damage to be dealt by surge should be removed.

[untold niche]

i feel like void is need to aim, trauma is need to grind, surge is none which is why less powerful :p

[wet belfry]

Its silly that surge has a delay between the target being hit, then damage being applied

[marble crater]

Okay, I will see if I can use the point for something else instead. What was the true aim concensus now?

[untold niche]

basically only for specific builds like trauma bubble.
I assumed it wouldn't change meaningful BPs with assail but it seems like im wrong, just go test for yourself as for this.

tbh end of the day just play what feels good
the assail thing was just agreed by all the regulars, not too good to listen too strictly

i.e. for zealot everyone was saying second life was mandatory

but when i didn't take it i had fun running stealth loner judgement

4 points free

[barren blade]

Anybody got a Psyker build to live longer? 😂

[untold niche]

i think depend on what weapon you wanna play really

[near drift]

don't get hit that's the build

[lethal minnow]

It's not exactly mine build, I took it from someone a long time ago. It's kinda skill dependand as you really rely on your melee to deal with armored melee targets. As for breakpoints - do I really need them? I use purgatus and combo that I wrote above (EP + True Aim + Perilous Combustion) + assail spam that Empowered psionics gives you. And I tested this build in a lot of matches and just by experience and some statistics from Power DI at seems very powerful. Yes, there are pretty big cons - like having a lot of trouble on very big locations aganst very far away enemies, and a pack of crushers is also kinda a problem, but I try to apply purg stacks on them, clear add around, and start dancing while clicking their heads, and after 2 are dead the others have a lot of soulblaze stacks, so they just start decaying on their own, just need to finish them. I would like to try something else tho, atleast to expand my vision

[barren blade]

Sword, bubble staff, usually brain blast, currently doing assail for penance

[untold niche]

if assail crit doesn't change BPs, then you are just wasting a point into true aim.

[marble crater]

Thanks, will do some minor testing then, I'm not good at noticing things like that

[untold niche]

again at the end of the day if you feel only one assail node don't feel good then just run both

I learnt alot more when i tried things for myself that went against general wisdom here.

I think thats why i like agent as well, he doesn't strictly follow what everyone says

but don't tell him i like him :v

[near drift]

I usually skip quick shards on assail now unless I'm trying to do nothing but assail

[untold niche]

he will screenshot that

[marble crater]

Better delete that then

[lethal minnow]

I can test it, actually I think I will

But in actual game those crit assails feel really good

Also crit goes through armor, right?

[untold niche]

from what i know yeah, but there is still damage reduction from cleaving (somebody correct me if im wrong)

[lethal minnow]

Hm, does assails even cleave? Doesn't they just bounce from target to target?

[untold niche]

assail has max pen

wait.

i mean it does

but i dont know if there is damage reduction

go test it yourself xD

i thought you were asking in general

like weapon crits

[lethal minnow]

Oh I can expain it better now. One assail shard can proc multiple True Aim stacks

So with EP spam this is a death crit machine

[marble crater]

That sounds strong

[untold niche]

again, if assail crit doesn't change BPs, it doesnt matter if you have crit on your assail.

[hasty kraken]

HAHAHAHAHA

I DID IT

Cliffhanger is MINE!!!

[marble crater]

[lethal minnow]

I disagree, even if in vacuum it doesn't change breakpoints, it atleast makes specials die faster from soulblaze stacks and thus even quicker spread them

It kinda hard tho to just teast breakpoints for assail, I don't know how atm

[untold niche]

i genuinely have no idea on assail BPs
if EP-ed assail can already one hit gunner theres no point critting them.
As for what you said about soulblaze, yeah. --> Theres differing opinions, some people don't value pure BPs as much like yourself, which is valid too, depends on how you look at the game.

Download creature spawner mod

actually you probably don't even need to

[lethal minnow]

One assail from LMB even remotely can't one shot them. But seems like 2 crits + EP kills unarmored gunners

[viscid matrix]

Congrats, kinda disappointed they made it way easier than it used to be, 20 enemies thrown off at once was much harder to pull off

[untold niche]

i don't know if LMB and RMB has differet damage values but you should try it as well if it has

[patent wing]

if i use assail, i never right click besides sniping

[marble crater]

It was 20?!

[patent wing]

left click spammer

[untold niche]

anyway im just an average player on discord, don't take what i say too seriously

[lethal minnow]

and that is generally right, but you can RMB assail to generate a lot of peril in tight situations, so you can generate toughness quickly

[viscid matrix]

Used to be yeh, the other one was get 5 elite kills in 10 seconds with brain burst

They made all of them way easier across the board

[marble crater]

Was was the brain burst one before? 5 elites in 10 seconds is easy with EP BB

[untold niche]

but i think you have good attitute, im sure you will go far @lethal minnow

[viscid matrix]

We didn’t have EP

[marble crater]

Ah, rip

[untold niche]

i think within a month you should be consistently carrying pub a5maels

[untold niche]

i would rather hypothetically kill myself than do that penance without ep

BB without EP takes ten thousand years

just for a fart from zues

[marble crater]

In the 41st century, there is only BB charging

[viscid matrix]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/ztz0d1/complete_penance_guide_for_all_classes/

Here is the list as of beginning of last year

Unfortunatly its in a YouTube video

This was after they nerfed them to be easier the first time

[untold niche]

also chialde

where di dyou go

didn't see you so much in a while

[viscid matrix]

Playing other games, and not using discord as much

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkey-hug-hug-love-monkey-love-gif-303064550611710498

[untold niche]

what games are you playing

[viscid matrix]

Over the last year, helldivers2, PathofExile primarily

[potent echo]

another day in Pubby weapons

[marble crater]

Wow

[viscid matrix]

ahah found it, people talking about cliffhanger penance at launch

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/discussions/0/3541546590709727141/

[untold niche]

ooo

[untold niche]

SPRINT EFFICIENCY LETS GO

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkey-dancing-monkey-vibing-monkey-jumping-monkey-vibe-check-gif-27025323

remember to run 3x stamina curios with 3x sprint efficiency

[upper sun]

I kneel...

[untold niche]

i think its beyond marvellous they took sprint efficiency

like rainbow appeared above me and theres a angel.mp3 sound

[viscid matrix]

I never understood the reasoning to add mods that are useless besides making it harder to get the good mods

[radiant frigate]

impressive

[lethal minnow]

I can do better tho in regard of theory. Don't really have a lot of motivation to do it right now honestly. But thanks

But actully I find playing good on psyker pretty.. uh.. intense. It's often you are either killing anyone and avoiding everything, or you got brainfart and just die

Simply not a lot of room for errors

[patent steeple]

btw, which keystone would be better for a blaze trauma build if I run BB with it: EP or DD?

[fluid aspen]

EP

[lethal minnow]

I don't really have a lot of experience with DD, but doesn't it more suited for using precision or atleast long range weapons? I think it would be tricky to trigger DD with trauma

[fluid aspen]

DD works well with Voidstrike and Assail but not much else. You need something that can hit them from afar, preferably with a weakpoint kill for extra stacks. And it can do all that repeatedly

It would work with BR if it was somewhat quicker but as it is now, not really

[patent wing]

gun

[fluid aspen]

Guns too but at that point just play Zealot or Vet

[patent wing]

gunker is better than gunlot

[patent steeple]

I myself have some experience with stacking DD via BB because BR has guaranteed headshots, unlike Assail which in my experience bodyshots the enemy then flies upwards and does not hit anything else...

[lethal minnow]

Gun psyker with DD + Gaze actually feels better then vet

[fluid aspen]

"Here is a space-wizard with almost godlike powers. I'm going to use guns instead tho like a regular footsoldier"

[lethal minnow]

Space wizard with guns that are empowered by magic is a pretty strong conception

[queen trout]

EP with faster BB after ability let's you machine gun head pop

[viscid matrix]

Gunkers have been pretty good for a very long time

[supple sedge]

Agreed

But if you take ammo when Ulgo out.

Will use shovel

[lethal minnow]

I really like playing one, but after recent nerf to vet's aura it's not that enjoyable now

[supple sedge]

Sparkhead squishy should not fight face to face

[lethal minnow]

I would never pick gun psyker if everyone else in lobby also using non-high ammo economy guns (Most of them)

But yeah, while you have ammo it's both fun and effective

[viscid matrix]

Try using the Laspistol and use it as a monstrosity killer with the burn build

Other option is revolver and focus on enemies with armour

[lethal minnow]

With colomnus you are everything killer honestly, but yeah, ammo is an issue

So i wonder if I can try something with higher economy and not lose too much dps

[viscid matrix]

If you are good with clicking heads and spending a lot of time in melee, revolver works really well, you have to save ammo for armoured enemies tho

[lethal minnow]

Slam fire revolver? Actually i think this might work

But if Zarona then just no, this is not this type of gameflow that I want on Gunsker

[rigid sky]

Psyker is so much better optimised for ranged than zealot is lol

If it helps, pretend that gunker is a hidden bonus 5th class

[lethal minnow]

Chat is this real?

[potent echo]

actually kinetic presence penance says it counts specialists too

does it mean the aura also affects specialists?

[marble crater]

[potent echo]

just tested, no it doesnt

poopy poo

[supple dock]

I remember reading in some of the patch notes that "elites/specialis" or any instance of either on their own will mean both

in talents anyways

guess it was wrong D:

[radiant frigate]

but why gun

when you have the arcane death cannon

[supple dock]

why gun when magic???

[radiant frigate]

and mind-blowing abilities

[rigid sky]

enchanted gun

[supple dock]

ITS NOT EVEN ENCHANTED

[rigid sky]

Scrier's Gaze

[supple dock]

look

[rigid sky]

I'm counting it.

[supple dock]

....yeah ok

[rigid sky]

I always liked the spellsword/mystic Knight/battlemage style

This is one of the few games to do it right imo

[supple dock]

yeah ok, i concede

(still gonna talk shit tho)

[rigid sky]

Plus at least we have Assail :D

Also have you heard the male loner voice lines for Scrier's Gaze

That is like half of my reason already

[supple dock]

lmao

[radiant frigate]

magus :)

sword wizard :)

[supple dock]

red mage

[radiant frigate]

Yes

as opposed to black mage

[potent echo]

even staff psykers are spellsword mainly

until the day we get melee staves

[queen fog]

any stave is a melee staff, just gotta snag the chance to do Brain burst on any hit

then its just special spam city

[patent wing]

im still mad that soul blaze is affected by armor. like WHAT

UR SOUL IS ABLAZE - DO YOU ARMOR YOUR SOUL OR WHAT

[untold niche]

i can only speak for voidstrike, but i feel its one of the easiest class to play in order to perform, you don't really need to "avoid" anything

You are a predominantly ranged class, so against gunner you get to abuse walls.
Against ragers/crushers, rager i would tank 1-2 hit, after that all of them should die given your dps.

With psyker your horde clear is so good zombies shouldn't get close to you, again tank 1-2hit. If its a survival area, then just swap to melee (again im on void, of course with purg i wouldn't swap)

[potent echo]

armor protects the flesh, faith protects the soul

[upper galleon]

The blaze is coming from the psyker’s soul

[potent echo]

and they are very faithful

[untold niche]

pure damage / full pen DoT would be a nightmare to balance

[patent wing]

welp thers trauma

[upper galleon]

Purge staff had an unreleased rending blessing in the code

[radiant frigate]

Uncanny Strike entered the chat

[patent wing]

which also has horde clear while dealing significant dmg to crushers
(btw how much dmg does an overhead deal?)

[upper galleon]

Probably wasn’t released cause of that

[untold niche]

you have pen on uncanny, but its still reduced damage compared to unarmoured right?

either because of how pen caps, or just how pen works, i can't remember.

but actual pure damage DoT would be insane

[radiant frigate]

overheads do Yes amounts of damage

[patent wing]

just asking
maybe i can stack enough hp to tank 1

[untold niche]

correkt me kat

[untold niche]

jus take purg and ds4 with max sprint
Puff and huff (run)

[radiant frigate]

if you get 100% rending to my understanding your attacks do as much damage as they possibly could

though i may want to check this

[untold niche]

and rending is not capped?

[radiant frigate]

see how much soulblaze ticks do on a crusher compared to horde mobs in the psykhanium

rending is softcapped at 100%

beyond that it loses effectiveness

[upper galleon]

Uncanny stacks to 100% which means even an adm of 0.01 would be 1.0

Rending is capped two ways

First, your total rending bonus cannot exceed 100%

Secondly, if your adm is at or above 1.0 (100% effectiveness) it will convert the remaining rending into damage at 25% rate

[untold niche]

i see

ok i get why wilmer did the uncanny cknife + flamer now

if you lets say have uncanny and +cara weapon perk
Would it still deal bonus damage to crushers?

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[untold niche]

same goes for chastise?

because chastise downgrades

[patent wing]

that my speedrun build

[upper galleon]

Yes, it for the purposes of perks it considers the enemies original armor type

[untold niche]

hmm, then on my flamer, the dot loses bonus damage from perks if i switch weapons right

i.e. my flamer has + cara, cknife doesnt'
I flame, switch to cknife. now no more +cara damage on the flame DoT right

[radiant frigate]

if DT works like vermintide, which i believe it does, yes

[untold niche]

so beyond crit, assuming you are going to swap, flamer perks are useless xD

[upper galleon]

Yea, the perks of your current weapon are the ones that apply to dots

Crit is still useless

The perk is at most 3% faster to getting max stacks

[untold niche]

prob reload speed

@upper galleon the initial damage is laughable right

for flamer

or still worth taking tsay +flak

[upper galleon]

Initial damage is laughable but still take 25% perks

I’d say flak maniac if you plan on swapping

Maybe flak unarmored? Idk tho

[untold niche]

why not flak reload speed

since damage is a joke

[upper galleon]

Because perks are burn damage too

[untold niche]

yeah but after sometme im going to swap to cknife for uncanny

[upper galleon]

And there is flak and unarmored chaffe, and maniac is always good

Yes and flak and unarmored chaffe have a good chance of dying before you hit it but anyways wtf is this swap shit

Just run fury of the faithful

[supple dock]

Unyielding?

[untold niche]

no im running stealth

[upper galleon]

I was so confused and thinking about psyker

[untold niche]

swap tech is needed

[upper galleon]

Then run kanty shotgun

[untold niche]

no kant deals laughable damage to crusher

and no horde clear anymore

since fire shot no longer infi pierce

[supple dock]

Talking about psyker? IN THE PSYKER CHANNEL sir you need to reevaluate your entire life

[upper galleon]

Im sitting here thinking can you even get reload speed on a staff

[radiant frigate]

yes it is called quell speed

[untold niche]

warp flurry

[radiant frigate]

it's where you reload your brain

[untold niche]

xD

[upper galleon]

so does flamer and getting your uncanny strikes slowly up

It’s just a weird strat

[untold niche]

uncanny takes long to build?

[upper galleon]

Plus all the uncanny weapons do great into crushers

[upper galleon]

On a crusher, 5 swings

[untold niche]

but kant no horde clear, flamer does

[upper galleon]

To the head

Knife doenst need horde clear put it at head level and go to town

Precog or riposte

[untold niche]

i can prffft the fire into crusherS before THEY reach me then i stab stab stab

[upper galleon]

You arent the fastest clear but you are safe

[upper galleon]

This sounds like a dollar store fury of the faithful build and i can’t condone it witch

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/samurai-monkey-gif-23663118

[untold niche]

but i want stealth so fook u

[upper galleon]

Idk blame fatshark for balancing flamer around fury

[untold niche]

wait

uncanny is a buff to me

or debuff to enemy

[plucky flax]

[untold niche]

oi no judge

https://tenor.com/view/yuriatomoki-yuria-riku-tomoki-riki-japan-gif-26124719

brittleness is the debuff right

rending is the buff

or is rending also a debuff :v

im confused

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-confused-gif-15712129875520007531

[upper galleon]

Uncanny is a buff on you

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-rizz-gif-11588635391327265506

[untold niche]

ya so if 6 crusher, i flame them all, i just need to stab one crusher 5 time then all of them will get increased damage

and i get to run stealth

https://tenor.com/view/smart-monkey-in-glasses-gif-27048178

[upper galleon]

Your fire is probably going to waste most of it’s damage before you get the buff active

And thats me being generous you won’t be flattened, crushers aren’t phased by flamer anymore

[untold niche]

Oh no the ugly truth

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-boat-coca-cola-swim-jump-gif-16392651

[rigid sky]

It burns for quite a long time

a good combo is to get a few burns on, do the special headstab on deimos for an instant 4 stacks, and then shriek on top of it

[upper galleon]

This isnt purge

This is zealot flamer and knife strat

[rigid sky]

oh lmao

[upper galleon]

Plus im going to be honest

[rigid sky]

imitation purgatus

;)

[upper galleon]

Ive used purge ds4 a lot and

I just use it to stab the crushers to death

[rigid sky]

I like purgatus deimos a bit more, I've tried both a bunch

[upper galleon]

Im not going to do this swap stuff beyond what is alright burning infront of me

[rigid sky]

it all depends on circumstance tbh

one nice thing is that you don't even have to get the uncanny stacks by hitting the crusher

you can hit a less risky poxwalker or bruiser instead

but yeah, both swords kill crushers fast enough by themselves tbh.

it's nice having weapons where you actually want to hit maulers in the head

[radiant frigate]

you are confused because the trauma blessing is called "rending shockwave" which applies brittleness

[fickle swallow]

If you're not sure about any mechanics that are somewhat related to psykers, refer to the steam guide pinned in this channel. It's amazing. And I'm Confused btw

[supple dock]

i refuse

[marble crater]

Am I going crazy or is there also a visual bug for EP? I killed bulwarks, maulers but didn't get any stacks

[stuck drum]

anyone else stuck with monstronum malleus as their last penance and wanna help each other out? 🤠

[upper galleon]

did you accidently select the increased chance of charges instead of charge on elite kill? or it could be bugged like does

[marble crater]

I have the elite kill talent and sometimes I did get stacks from killing elites, but not most of the time

[upper sun]

yeah idk im trying to do the ep penance

[brave fiber]

I’m like 99% sure the update bugged some of the ability icons that are supposed to show up

[upper sun]

its hell

[ripe bluff]

how do you get the blue glowing goggles head piece? seen a few people have those but no clue where to get them. is it a shop item or penances?

[marble crater]

Maybe because of the new aura icons showing up huh

[brave fiber]

Scriers stacks sometimes just don’t show up when I activate the ability despite the fact that it IS working

So it’s just visual pretty sure

[marble crater]

I hope it's just visual, I need my penance

[marble crater]

Not stuck, but I can help in an hour or so after dinner

[upper sun]

play entire game

ep penance still at 102

the ep sg and bubble ones are the bane of my existance

[marble crater]

Let's not talk about bubble

Best way to do is to sit in bubble and just not kill the enemies outside

[plucky flax]

1 mil damage illisi surge smite

[stuck drum]

Thanks! That'd be awesome and appreciated

[marble crater]

I will message you when I'm done

[plucky flax]

Most melee kills against 2 ogryns and a zealot illisi is balanced.

[marble crater]

400k warpfire, also balanced

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma could never

[marble crater]

Being able to see scores would be nice for testing things

[plucky flax]

Not pc master race

[outer kraken]

might be able to play w people on pc who can grab you screenshots

[marble crater]

Sure, but having to look for someone with the mod and then ask them is not convenient, so I will just have to go by what feels good or other people share about their findings

[plucky flax]

Well I can tell you no meme that blaze trauma doesn't do well on scoreboard for whatever reason. The mod's calculation absolutely gimps blaze trauma's damage.

I can kill 1.3k enemies and it shows 500k damage.

So scoreboard is not that accurate.

[marble crater]

So the blaze trauma bad meme exists because it doesn't show accurately on the scoreboard mod?

[plucky flax]

Yes Xd

It's also how we can get it buffed!

Blaze trauma veri bad

[ornate hamlet]

y/n?

[brave fiber]

crazy how the least used things in this game tend to be the most broken

[plucky flax]

Well vets have all the op popular stuff like mk6 power sword, plasma, and columbus.

9/10 vets run 1 of those 3 weapons.

[brave fiber]

Columnus is op on every class to be fair

except for ogryn because his fingers are too large to use it

[plucky flax]

Oh throw revolver in there too.

Its exceptionally rare to see a vet not running revolver/plasma/columbus.

[brave fiber]

hot take Columnus is better than plasma gun

[ornate hamlet]

Gun Psyker, thinking replace 1.5 for the crit perk for toughness regen. What do you guys think?

[rigid sky]

Different purpose

[brave fiber]

best gun in the game imo

[rigid sky]

Plasmas can kill crushers better, but columnus is way better for trash shooters

[plucky flax]

Plasma can do the funny 1 0 shotgunners kill in 1 shot.

[rigid sky]

Plasma reloads less often, but its reloads fucking suck

[brave fiber]

with the brittleness talent Columnus can kill crushers just as well if not better than plasma gun

[ornate hamlet]

Or even crit damage?

[rigid sky]

Probably yeah, I didn't go in that direction though

[plucky flax]

If I have to clutch a round to save my life on vet I'd go with plasma over columbus.

[rigid sky]

I just pop crushers with my power sword

[marble crater]

I would use the power sword if I didn't have to use the special after every 3 swings and it wasn't a very bad illisi without the special use

[rigid sky]

I guess the other advantage of plasma gun is that it doesn't really need many support talents

so you can take all of the team synergy shit

[brave fiber]

as much as I fucking despise tanner, he did a good video showing how busted Columnus is

[upper sun]

huh

blas radius was kinda mid on this one so i wanted to try a brittlness trauma

[brave fiber]

perfect roll blaze trauma got dam

[upper sun]

agent is gonna come here and post bs about muh "trauma is the hardest staff to roll"

this is my third blazing one

[plucky flax]

Well it has low blast radius.

Actually unplayable.

[supple dock]

I got a nearly perfect trauma staff on a whim. Wasn't even looking for one

[brave fiber]

tbf you basically need a 370+ roll to make trauma as good as it can be

[upper sun]

what about the ass charging rate one whacha think?

[plucky flax]

I got a near perfect blaze trauma after abandoning emprah for tzeentch

I'd scrap it.

[supple dock]

? Looks passable to me

[plucky flax]

Well if you gonna use the rending flurry meme then maybe.

But blaze without flurry, 69 is way too low.

[upper sun]

ye i want a rending flurry

ye

[plucky flax]

Yeah if you have t4 flurry it can offset the low charge.

[supple dock]

Like it isn't perfect but if you're just looking for a usable staff it's fine

[plucky flax]

Based.l

[upper sun]

PEAK

[marble crater]

🤮

[wet belfry]

@broken lagoon ruin that trauma

[upper sun]

no flak but eh workable

[ornate hamlet]

What are the bis blessings for mk iv ds?

[plucky flax]

Uncanny + shred/riposte/rampage depend on your playstyle imo.

[upper sun]

uncanny is a must and you either take shred or rampage

[marble crater]

Rampage didn't work for me at all, went back to shred

[flat nexus]

not bad if you do the reload tech

[plucky flax]

Rampage is for horde.

[marble crater]

But shred also doesn't feel good, maybe I should use one of the dodge blessings if I just want to poke muties, maulers and crushers?

[plucky flax]

If you only use your sword for single target then rampage becomes wasted.

[marble crater]

I got this emperor gift earlier, maybe that could be a horde dueling sword

[plucky flax]

352 melee kills with a rampage ds4 in 21 mins. Team with 3 ogryns too.

One of them is Poop

[marble crater]

My name is not Agent Chaos

[plucky flax]

Change your name. AgentChaos could be anyone.

[radiant frigate]

tell no one but smite actually does this pretty well

ep smite into dogtide...

[marble crater]

I'm thinking of changing my name to Guilty Sparks

[upper sun]

i also have to do the shield one as well as the damage aura one

so i kinda switched to BB

[upper sun]

we should all change char and steam names to AgentChaos and play like absolute ass

[plucky flax]

[ornate hamlet]

Why is the game lagging today?

[ornate hamlet]

I look at this... and I just ask - why does anyone need that much information? It seems like just too much to me.

[plucky flax]

It's for builds break down. If you're just playing to have fun don't worry about scoreboard.

[dense crow]

It’s so he can judge people for not having max blessings. Trust me

[ornate hamlet]

Wouldn't you want a scoreboard that tracks efficiency of buff usage?

[brave fiber]

if I didn’t know how much damage I’m doing to disabler specials oh man I’d have no idea how well my build performs

[ornate hamlet]

That seems weird.

[brave fiber]

(sarcasm)

[ornate hamlet]

You would want to one-shot them right?

Oh.

Internet is horrid at relaying that info

[radiant frigate]

defamation

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[brave fiber]

we love impersonation here

[marble crater]

@stuck drum sorry for the delay, I'm ready to help kill a boss now, if you are

[stuck drum]

2 mins in gma

game*

[marble crater]

Ok

[stuck drum]

in finale now, thnkas for waiting

how do i invite you?

[marble crater]

My FS code is in my discord profile

[stuck drum]

invited

took all of 7 minutes with a competent person, thanks @marble crater, been trying to get that for a long time

[marble crater]

You are welcome, were you able to hear me at all?

First time trying the mic with the new controller, so I'm not sure if everything is actually set up correctly

[stuck drum]

yes it was quite clear, but maybe a tad quiet

potentially on my end

[upper sun]

ok malice EP BB is fine for the bb penance

and you can tank stuff while charging BB in melee range

[marble crater]

Ah good, enjoy the outfit

[vestal fulcrum]

this is what becoming a seer does to a motherkarker

[marble crater]

Take pictures with bad lightning?

Nice eyes though

[vestal fulcrum]

When I was the Loner, the eyes were blue

[small valve]

there's a male loner voice line that implies he gave the gluck gluck to melk and I feel deeply uncomfortable

[upper sun]

wait wait wait wait

EYES CHANGE COLOR TOO?

[vestal fulcrum]

No

[upper sun]

🤔

[vestal fulcrum]

But they do in my headcanon

And since I was changing the voice, I might as well have changed something else

[upper sun]

the light of your beloved is warming up ur eyes

or something

[vestal fulcrum]

It's only for the dramatic effect, but I'm sure the changed voice will at least somewhat improve my experience

[upper sun]

"fenatic please pray for better aim"

lmao

[fresh reef]

to whichever dev put this in the game, fuck you

fuck

you

[radiant frigate]

easy sedition clear

get a group of your favorite evis XV zealots and go to town

[tired estuary]

as opposed to the hard sedition clears

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[upper galleon]

just play it on the lowest diff

[fresh reef]

I did

then I got players who actually knew what they were doing and it was piss easy

[rigid sky]

Iirc uprising is lowest

[mental rock]

Sedition is the lowest diff

Hell if you just look at the words, sedition is less severe than uprising

[rigid sky]

I mean on OO

I thought it doesn't have a sedition version

[mental rock]

Oh in that case you might be right, I've only ever done it on damn

[rigid sky]

It has been a while since I last ran it tbf

No point doing normal damnation again, and cba trying to do hard mode with randos

(And slightly insecure that I might be too shit to carry my weight in a real group too lmao)

[marble crater]

Auric Maelstrom is stressful

[radiant frigate]

potentially

[brave fiber]

that’s why it’s fun

idk about you but having periodic waves of like 30 mutants is hilarious

[rigid sky]

Also 6 monsters in the first room of silo cluster

[marble crater]

It was fun, but I was the only one who dropped below 20% health, I blame being a psyker

[rigid sky]

Maybe more, idk, we died lol

[marble crater]

[brave fiber]

I wish weakened monstrosities were common in regular auric damnation because they spice things up

[marble crater]

Sure, after I got my 10 missions without dying

[rigid sky]

https://images.app.goo.gl/x3tcFZBoCC2kKsyD6

Oh fuck you discord

Embed my gifs

[marble crater]

[rigid sky]

My boomer is showing

[flat nexus]

agreed, i can make a fresh sushi out of a Beast of Nurgle https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxWOXw7CWlUYpGxJ-qbgAtozTViC_u3uR8?si=TbjYR0xw8K3oU_06

[marble crater]

That beast didn't know what hit it

If I die in regular missions, it doesn't reset the Auric Storm Survivor penance, right?

[vernal temple]

dumb question, but what is the dump stat on a surge staff? Warp resistance?

[marble crater]

Crit but not too dumpy

Psyker guide says to have all stats at equal levels for surge, or rather it benefits from it

[vernal temple]

just found this in the shop so I'm not sure if it's worth upgrading or not?

this is the one I'm using rn

should I just stick to what I have and hope for a staff with roughly equal numbers?

52% seems abysmal

but everything else is top tier

[marble crater]

Try it in the psykh and see how the peril gain feels

[vernal temple]

full charge + cast

Transcendent generated 21%
Profane generated 23%

not a big difference, but the quell speed is soooo much better

I'll probably upgrade it in hopes Hadron doesn't brick it

if she does, I'll be one sad sad spark'ead

[rigid sky]

Tbh high peril generation isn't always bad

[late sapphire]

I miss jorking my sword for toughness

[rigid sky]

The more peril flux, the more toughness you generate and the easier it is to hit a 6 stack Shriek on demand

[late sapphire]

But ds is just too good

[vernal temple]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-not-great-not-terrible-its-okay-gif-24540363

[rigid sky]

The Holy Trinity are are great tbh

If any of them were available on Zealot, the other classes would all be pointless

[untold niche]

one time i had like ~13 in a game and it was fun

[late sapphire]

I've said it before and i'll say it again if i had a ds on zealot my zel could head directly into the warp to 1v1 greater daemons and the chaos gods

[thin finch]

mmmmh isd it me of cruel fortune is bugged ?

I was doing headshot but getting one stack of DD instead of 3

[thin finch]

after testing it works well

I guess my aim is just shit

[marble crater]

Congrats on the new staff, maybe change crit to flak?

[plucky flax]

Flak is very cool on surge I highly recommend.

[vernal temple]

I'll swap that and check it out, thanks!

[plucky flax]

I did 1 mil damage earlier with surge it's very op staff.

[rigid sky]

Surge and purge are both great beginner staves and they never really become bad

Can carry with either

[stuck drum]

surge imo never really recovered from whatever patch it was that made it target random body parts

its still good but not what it was, and falls behind voidstrike and purge IMO

i don't think ive ever used the other staff so idk about that one. i used purge/surge exclusively for like 350+ hours before trying others

[spiral storm]

I tried to use the voidstrike

But something feels off about it now

Even when I'm lining up heads and getting crits it feels so slow

I find myself throwing 3 uncharged balls just to get the charge speed blessing but even then it feels slow

[marble crater]

Surge and Trauma my beloved

[vernal temple]

I was running with voidstrike for the longest, but then I tried the surge and it's a barrel of fun imho

[plucky flax]

500k+ range damage in 34 mins is pretty good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1232015230817800292/image.png?ex=6627eb18&is=66269998&hm=7b02179f402b6d83c81068ce91b315be20eafb8e5102fd7978dc12b80e73fbbd&

[stuck drum]

im not saying its bad just less reliable compared to the other options

it also comes down to playstyle

[cinder moon]

surge is very reliable though

[stuck drum]

it more or less aims for you, so yeah in that sense its reliable, but assuming that you can hit the majority of your projectiles, i just see better results with the VS. maybe its just me

what perks do you run? blessing-wise there arent a huge amount of options

[hoary leaf]

Are Scriers Gaze and Disrupt Destiny worth using? I was looking through the new pennances' and saw the 2 that wanted me to use those so I was thinking of a Purgatas build with those 2 but then I thoughr on how I never see those perks used ever and wanted to ask if they were really bad or if ita just that the other perks arw just that much better

[barren blade]

Anybody wanna help me get Malleus Monstronum penance? I can kill a whole Monstrosity by myself, but my teammates always get the last hit

[upper galleon]

scriers ive seen used with a gun or transfer peril void staff, i've seen DD used with gun or assail

i def won't use scriers with purge, and DD niether, DD scales your weakspot and crit damage, which purge doesn't use

[hoary leaf]

Ah so those are more gun psyker perks?

[upper galleon]

scriers def is, DD is more flexible imo

[brave fiber]

it does shine with gun psyker tho

running columnus with dd scriers is op

[hoary leaf]

Might try that then, I always run a space witch, tine for the gun mage.

Mainly just for those Pennances but mixing it up is fun every now and then

[rigid sky]

Gundalf is hellaciously fun

Take Duelling Sword 4 or Illisi Force Sword as your melee with it (personally I prefer the former over the latter)

Dumpster bosses in seconds

[hoary leaf]

What gun recommended? And perks plz

[rigid sky]

CIAG or Accatran Laspistol

[hoary leaf]

And gundalf I like that,
was trying to think up a pun but couldnt, that one is good

Ty

[rigid sky]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9bdf246b-be30-462a-ac05-96d6d640ac24 for DD take either left or right node based on level of comfort

The node that gives increased duration is probably better for starting out tbh

So take that instead of the 25 stack

Not sure why I recommended that just now lmao

[hoary leaf]

Does DD proc only when you kill the target or if someone kills it near you? Pugatas was my 1st choice cause I imagined just moving down a horde with flames and getting max stacks in seconds (no idea how it works ingame yet but just my hopes it would work that way)

[rigid sky]

You have to kill it. If you hit it though, your duration refreshes

[hoary leaf]

Was actually poking around in that very editor before I came to ask for advice, gotta love handy tools

[rigid sky]

Wouldn't take purgatus with DD, it doesn't benefit from the bonuses enough

[hoary leaf]

Thought so, now I fear all the ks-ing

[rigid sky]

It's less bad than you would think

It often picks random shooters etc

[hoary leaf]

Yeah that was the main thing I was worried about

[rigid sky]

Which other people won't prioritise really

They only glow for you

It's not like the brain burst reticule acting like a bullseye

Take the 10s duration point instead of the 25 stack, it'll be less painful

[hoary leaf]

What you mean? Everyone knows when the head is glowing everyone else needs to shoot it, thats Darktide 101

[hoary leaf]

Kk

[long wharf]

DD is much better than before

[rigid sky]

Basic visual perception unfortunately fucks us all over there lol

[hoary leaf]

and wont lie I am guilty of that too but I try not to

[rigid sky]

I only used the old dodgy DD btw

[long wharf]

The improved target selection makes a world of difference

[rigid sky]

I haven't tried it since the new patch

But it was great even then

[long wharf]

Nah, it really wasnt

[rigid sky]

The damage boost from it on certain weapons is unbelievable

It was though lol, just needed attention

But on hi5stg you never ran out of targets

[marble crater]

[rigid sky]

You lost the stack sometimes, particularly on bosses

[hoary leaf]

Do the DD buffs affect Brain Burst? Not going to use it but I am imagining it to be a nuke now

[long wharf]

The target selection now helps you get stacks quickly, even if other players are killing your target

[rigid sky]

I don't think so but not sure

I always take Assail with it

[ornate hamlet]

Wont use brain burst?

[hoary leaf]

Ah we all know that feeling

[spice veldt]

only the damage portion will affect brainburst

[rigid sky]

Since it also has great synergy with true aim

[long wharf]

I don't see why DD wouldn't buff brain burst

[spice veldt]

brainburst has a weakspot multiplier of 1x so it doesn't benefit from +weakspot damage

[rigid sky]

And DD can crit and weakspot

Uh

Assail can

[long wharf]

Oh, nevermind

[rigid sky]

Sorry tired lol

[long wharf]

Didn't know about the weak spot multi of BB

[hoary leaf]

Yeah assail seems the obvious choice but am just bumping ideas around in my head now on things that could be cool but prolly dont work

[rigid sky]

Assail under DD is a lot of damage too

[rigid sky]

Smite is the other option

[long wharf]

Assail with DD is my new way of playing

[rigid sky]

For control

[hoary leaf]

Ah true true

[rigid sky]

But Assail is great for ammo efficiency

Melee support

Blue boi automatic killing

[ornate hamlet]

How's this for efficiency?

[rigid sky]

That's cute but that isn't a scrier/DD build which is what this guy wants lol

But yes brain rupture very gud.

[hoary leaf]

And with that another fun thought pops in, do Stimms stack? Could I pop a Speed Cola and someone else get me a hit of roid rage to become superman?

I am pretty sure they said they dont stack

[rigid sky]

That's a good question Rhonda

[hoary leaf]

But never tried it

Dont do drugs kids

[rigid sky]

Get the triple stim cocktail

[hoary leaf]

Unless they are emperor approved

[thin finch]

No

you can have only one and if you pick another they replaec

jamming more than one of the same needle just reset the timer

[rigid sky]

The only drug the Emperor approves of is grinding up a thousand psykers and doing them as a line

[thin finch]

But if you run Scrier's gaze, the Red Stimm slow down peril gain

[hoary leaf]

Ohh

[rigid sky]

Through The Emperor's Ancient Cocaine Straw

[rigid sky]

Oh sick

That's actually crazy

[thin finch]

And the yellow stim allow for scrier gaze to start recharging even if the ability is active

which is also cool

[rigid sky]

Red stimm priority always to gunker then tbh

Blue stimm to brain rupture enjoyers

[thin finch]

ye

[rigid sky]

And clobgryns

[thin finch]

But I must test it but I think blue stimms actually sucks with purgatus

[rigid sky]

Because clobb 3 light attack drum solo

[thin finch]

it seems the charge bar goes up but also down faster

[cinder moon]

red stim is great for all psyker builds, reduces peril gen

blue makes you do everything faster iirc

[hoary leaf]

The blue actually works now? I remeber it was bugged way back when

[cinder moon]

I tend to give blues to stubber ogryns

[thin finch]

it works now

[rigid sky]

Blue is great now

[thin finch]

it would be neat if we could give the needle without jamming it into people

[hoary leaf]

Sweet, I reflexively avoidided it not knowing if it was good now

[cinder moon]

you can

[thin finch]

uuh may have missed this then

special button ?

[cinder moon]

hold alt attack and left click, you can gift other players stimms and ammo/medpacks

[hoary leaf]

Yeah you can pass it to others

Special action button yeah have to double tap it I think

[cinder moon]

also scriptures

just hold alt and then click lmb

don’t need to double

[hoary leaf]

Might be the bindings I have set up then, for me its a double tap, but I dont share needles so dont use it often

[cinder moon]

if double works I’ll just do that in the future, hold+lmb can be finicky

[thin finch]

Share the needdle bro,

[hoary leaf]

Nah they dont pick up the book, no needle for them

[cinder moon]

side note, I love how everyone spams rmb with a stimm out

it’s the new spam weapon switch in elevators

[hoary leaf]

hides me doing that in the corner everytime

[jovial juniper]

And by spamming it I mean
Hehe
My stimulant

[marble crater]

[devout belfry]

Alright, I need you all to assist me in peering through the skeins of fate. Through our combined power and the Emperor's will may I be granted a really 🔥 rapier.

[marble crater]

good luck

[hoary leaf]

Dont take my luck, you'll never get what you want if you have mine

[thorn cedar]

my dream would be if this were 'pick two'

cause i do not care for 5s of reduced peril gen but packing frontal damage and then burn on top would be

really coooool

also try not to fawn too hard over my incredible ms paint skills

[marble crater]

Shriek is already really strong

[thorn cedar]

yea but i want my talent point back from that travel node lol

[strong gulch]

Melk is trolling

[marble crater]

[left basin]

hey fellow soykers

which soyker helmet makes the Cooler voice change

the one that makes you sound like vader on crack

is there any helmet that doesn't look that hilarious that does the same voice change?

[fast frost]

It pains me deeply that I got this on my psyker

[marble crater]

I can only think of the one that looks like a trauma staff

[left basin]

fuck's sake

[fast frost]

Ye the navigator ones

[small valve]

HOW ARE PEOPLE LIKE ME SUPPOSED TO COMPLETE THE PRIVATE MATCH PENANCES REEEEEEEEEE

[marble crater]

But I am not great at this buying cosmetics thing, there might be others?

[left basin]

i want to hear the seer psyker (the only correct choice) laugh like an idiot while venting in that voice

[fast frost]

It’s not the same voice mod but this arising Mk VIB has a voice modifier

It was in the store alongside the krieg stuff I think

Saying that the krieg one might do that voice I think it’s a full head cover but I doubt it

[lethal lagoon]

You and your LMB staves, Melk knows what you are about.

[barren blade]

What penance do you need?

[fast frost]

If you’re trying to get the private psykers penance I could help if we get another 2 not brain dead people

[barren blade]

I'll be your Ogryn Shield

[left basin]

nah, i'm just looking for the ones that make you sound like vader, but don't look like a candelabra

[fast frost]

Doesn’t work as well anymore because the game spawns cc based specialists now. Better to just bring a competent team who can kite a plague beast

[left basin]

not the praesimiagoria

[fast frost]

I’m ngl I’m bad for buying stuff and I don’t have a single one of those so I reckon they’re all gross looking

Might look into making a navigator looking psyker at some point

[lethal lagoon]

Plague Ogryns? You wish. The game uses propritary software to detect when you are doing the psyker penance and will only spawn choas spawns.

[marble crater]

You can do it with two people, let the bots die and then kill a DH, while ogryn tanks with shield

[fast frost]

Tbf chaos spawns aren’t that bad either just get a zealot who can dodge

[fast frost]

This doesn’t work for the reason I mentioned above

[devout belfry]

What stats should I be looking for on a mk 4 rapier?

[marble crater]

Which reason is that?

[lethal lagoon]

I did it with 2 people

It was a lot of effort honestly

[fast frost]

They openly said they’ve changed it recently I’m pretty sure

[lethal lagoon]

I did it after the change and dealt with an endless stream of elites, hordes, and CC.

So yeah, not the best idea

[marble crater]

I helped someone with it a few hours ago, took us all of 7 minutes, two people with bots

[fast frost]

The game intentionally spawns CC based specialists during monsters. Haven’t you noticed the uptick in specialists imbedded in hordes

[lethal lagoon]

I'm more annoyed you found a DH so fast

[marble crater]

We did it with an ogryn, to be fair

[fast frost]

Psyker and shield ogryn will just struggle with mutants coming in. It’s much better to just play normally as a group till the psyker gets something else

[marble crater]

not DH

[lethal lagoon]

Mutants? Pokey poke.

[fast frost]

Yeah DH were too easy to farm it on that’s why they changed it

That’s why I’m saying not to do it on a DH and to just bring a normal team.

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

You can even do it on malice to make it easier, you don't need a full team, imo

[lethal lagoon]

No you can't

It's heresy

[marble crater]

Well whichever the 4th one is called

[lethal lagoon]

It's called heresy cause it's heresy to quickplay it

[marble crater]

I always get those two mixed up

[fast frost]

I’ve grinded so much auric recently that anything that isn’t auric feels weird

[vernal pier]

if you’re going for malleus monstronum it works on weakened monstrosities as well just wait for a maelstrom, one spawns within the first few minutes, pop it, then leave

[lethal lagoon]

I think he meant about finding people not the actual challenge lmao

[vernal pier]

ohhhhh mb

😭

[left basin]

nolife achievement - did the first version of it around the time when the smelter map came out

[fast frost]

Thoughts? Just noticed I had this.

I’m never going to use it regardless lol

[vernal pier]

[long wharf]

okay siblings, I don't often ask for advice, but since the patch raised boss stagger values, is surge on void no longer meta?

I haven't been stagger-locking bosses since the patch with my surge void

[left basin]

i like the surge for deleting two lines at the same time

but yeah

[lethal lagoon]

Think of Surge as 130% crit damage

[left basin]

seems like it does not anymore, i can't do it

[lethal lagoon]

And decide from that

[fast frost]

I’ve been running surge since the update and it’s still probably better than my other items

[lethal lagoon]

(surge blessing, not surge staff)

[left basin]

that and lmb quellcancer feels horrid sometimes

[fast frost]

Ah right

[lethal lagoon]

And yes surge is comfy

[left basin]

like a psyker machinegun

[fast frost]

Don’t think I’ve ever used surge blessing

Genuinely think the only blessings I’ve properly used are nexus flurry and transfer

[lethal lagoon]

Took me forever to surge on voidstrike and then I decided I still didn't really like using voidstrike

[left basin]

i'm switching void/trauma. i want my zapstaff to be zappier

as much as i like the shriek spam it's not as nice as other staves feel

weaponswitching to get damage out faster also feels like sandpaper on my brain

[lethal lagoon]

I can't be bothered to animation cancel surge.

It's really not needed, esp since I run EP smite with surge anyways

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-gross-disgusting-oh-no-yuck-gif-20454736

but stax

[fast frost]

Yeah I run the same

[marble crater]

Have you noticed EP stacks not showing up? @lethal lagoon

[lethal lagoon]

#psyker-class message

[lethal lagoon]

No, I've also only used EP smite a few times since patch, I don't have a lot of unintruppted time to play atm

[haughty bough]

currently seems like a bug if you hot join mid game

same thing happens with DD where the stacks are very much still there but you cant see them on your bar

[left basin]

unsure how that's supposed to make me like it a whole lot

[lethal lagoon]

8 seconds to kill 50+ elites?

Including ragers

[left basin]

i seem to be able to do it just fine with Anything + flamevent

[marble crater]

Can you make it include crushers?

[fast frost]

Can I just double check. My current build uses EP but I use pretty much exclusively my surge staff. I use smite almost never. Only in dire situations where I can hold everything up whilst gram sorts itself. I should change off EP right?

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

Yes.

Warp Charge Surge Flaming shriek spam is amazing

Here's the "basic bitch" surge build.

[fast frost]

Ok looks about what I’d have made

I just sat there and realised I just slapped the surge staff onto my shriek build since it quelled for me and didn’t consider my keystone

Jeez I’ve been really missing out on dps idk how I never noticed this

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

[frail pasture]

Gnosis Pattern Rebreather with Psykana Collar

[small valve]

Monstrosity brain burst thing

[left basin]

been asking around for one that doesn't look like a menorah but has the crack vader voicechange

not the regular one

[fast frost]

Can I just check before I take it does kinetic deflection make you pop or does it just start draining stamina if you cap your peril

[lethal lagoon]

Your killing everything(all ragers) circled in 8 seconds?

I mean you can hate ep smite, but that's just a silly claim

[frail pasture]

Oh there is a second one that gives the voice? As far as I know its only the one

[small valve]

The krieg helm doesn't do it

[marble crater]

Doesn't make you pop

[left basin]

dunno if there is one, just asking for it

[barren blade]

Thought so, like I said, I'll Shield Ogryn for you and you can get a Daemonhost

[frail pasture]

Yeah id love for a second one that didnt have the giant collar

[fast frost]

Im a zealot player and therefore have stupidly good dodge ability so I might drop kinetic deflection in favour of something else

[lethal lagoon]

Psyker helmets are just not it in general

Bunch of toliet bowls

[frail pasture]

I wish the cool skull mask from the pack made the vader voice

I wanna be edgy as fuck

[left basin]

i'll give it a try. is zapstick the one that you use with it exclusively

[marble crater]

Free zealot masks are awful too

[fast frost]

I really really like this one

Perfect blend of hood:mask and neither being goofy

[lethal lagoon]

Revolver is also an option, but I like my lightning on my lightning.

Plus you can use surge to quell

[left basin]

gunkers should be shot

with rocks

[lethal lagoon]

Indeed, gunkers are immune to bullets after all

They built up a tolerence

[marble crater]

That doesn't sound right

[barren blade]

@small valve add me 3613368161 let's get this

[small valve]

lesduit

[barren blade]

Wanna get two more? Or hope for an instant Daemonhost?

[small valve]

Might as well wait for more

[fast frost]

I’ll join

[barren blade]

My FSC is there

[fast frost]

Where do I even see my code as an Xbox player

[left basin]

wait, do you use the zapstaff with eepy or the morb charges

[barren blade]

Go to social, press X

[lethal lagoon]

EP

[barren blade]

Find player pulls up your code

[fast frost]

2067454021

[lethal lagoon]

if you've only run warp charges it can take time to get used to

But I mean for me it's a smite build I run when I want my brain to be completely off

But still be 1st place

[left basin]

hm

[fast frost]

I’m assuming that’s you that’s just invited me

[barren blade]

I hope so

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is there for crushers, bosses, and getting EP stacks

Though generally EP smite can get enough EP stacks on it's own once it get's going

[left basin]

got a pic with your treeline for the EP one? i'm running the zapstaff with morb charges as it is turns out

[lethal lagoon]

This is what I settled on, feel free to take wildfire and quietude and get KD instead.

After a lot of EP smite running last patch

[marble crater]

No KD

[lethal lagoon]

KD has no real use on this build except bosses

But I'm a pro

This is typically how runs went pre-patch, before the buff. I haven't had a lot of time this patch to play. Not the greatest, but getting an avg 600-800k with 0 brain power is pretty decent.

Like I can't emphaize enough how little brain power is used

Smite has no place in this game honestly

Most out of place ability

[marble crater]

[left basin]

it's probably funky after the patch

[lethal lagoon]

There was literally 0 reason to buff the damage

I can't wait till I'm not busy

I could use an english buff though

[marble crater]

Buffed it so it actually kills stuff now and people don't get yelled at by their team

[lethal lagoon]

It killed stuff before...

^ it's right there

Also people are still getting yelled at cause they run Smite Bubble

[marble crater]

I'm on Xbox, I can't read and understand that

[left basin]

i've done scarier numbers with dd voidstrike, but it was always been with cold sweat dripping off of me because i really like spamming shriek with morb charges

i am giving it a try as we speak

[lethal lagoon]

I've done better numbers too, but it's so little effort by comparsion.

Like sooo little

It doesn't even feel like the same game

Don't play it too many times or you'll be cursed with -5 skill.

[lethal lagoon]

I bought a PC during the crypto crash a couple years ago, so pretty happy with that.

I'm kinda hoping crypto just completely dies so I can get a cheap 5090 when they come out

[marble crater]

We came up with NFTs, not sure crypto will die

[lethal lagoon]

NFTs died though

[marble crater]

They did? Good

[lethal lagoon]

The irony of NFTs is literally the only way they would have worked is if they were backed by the government

And like that's the opposite purpose of crypto

What a bunch of idiots

[wispy wagon]

is anticipation fixed?

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think so

That's the dodge extender, right?

[spice veldt]

anticipation is the same as before

not bugged but doesn't work the way you'd hope

[lethal lagoon]

It might not be bugged but the english is definitely bugged

[marble crater]

How does it work?

[wispy wagon]

yeah

[spice veldt]

only extends the linger time of your dodge "iframes" and specifically only against melee

instead of the entirety of your dodge and including ranged attacks

[marble crater]

Well that's...

[spice veldt]

the linger time is somewhere close to 0.2s for psyker so anticipation just bumps that to 0.3s

[marble crater]

One of the talents of all time

[deft nymph]

is lighting storm on smite good

[lethal lagoon]

If you are using EP smite, it's probably worth taking.

On a normal build where you barely use smite, not really needed.

[deft nymph]

does it work on the right click now tho

[lethal lagoon]

Yes, both work on right click

Enfleeble still doesn't show up as a debuff, but it does effect the damage.

[marble crater]

Does it work with itself?

[wispy wagon]

Cleared 10 Aurics on this bad boy

[lethal lagoon]

yes

[wispy wagon]

READ EM AND WEEP

[lethal lagoon]

BM is better than the DD peril reduc, and BM isn't that great.

Not even an opinion, it's just math.

[marble crater]

Congrats

[wispy wagon]

lol I dont have that filled in its the other way around

im dumb

[lethal lagoon]

[wispy wagon]

you right though

I mean its basically that level "No Russian" but in Darktide

Dueling sword still pokes well

[deft nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/get-neither-gif-21820310

[wispy wagon]

And even before the patch, the extra weakspot damage helped with ranged stuff farther away

you'd feel it on time to kill

[potent echo]

Does the 10% extra damage work on the smite itself?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeppers peppers, multiplicatively.

[potent echo]

Big

[lethal lagoon]

It's way too annoying to test it's effects on other players, so no clue on that front

[potent echo]

Idk how telopots managed to test that in the psyk even using mods

He had something hitting the bulwark behind it

[lethal lagoon]

Are you premeptively arguing about your 57% damage and ranged weak spot damage perk before anyone mentioned it?

[potent echo]

Maybe bot AI

[wispy wagon]

Are there mods for better scaled Talent trees, anything anyone would suggest

[lethal lagoon]

I just use the builder on gameslateran

and take a screenshot of it

[wispy wagon]

yes... yes I am

[lethal lagoon]

Like that

[lethal lagoon]

I mean, I was gonna mention something, but you seemed pretty happy so I stopped at the BM/DD stuff.

[wispy wagon]

I need to see your scoreboards with this