psyker-class

[unique knot]

I hear ya, the shield is nice. But the shriek for me can be a real lifesaver incase I go into the red with my peril build up.

And honestly the worst Psyker penance to complete currently for me is the perilous focus penance, because fuck I cannot get the 40 kills in a row that the challenge requires.

[fresh reef]

you know that one part at the very end of the coolant repair mission?

go there with a knife

worked like a charm for me

[unique knot]

Ah ok, I’ll keep that in mind. Thank you, since I kinda relied on the gun as I thought it would get the kills I need faster. But I’ve only gotten as far as like 23 kills per ability use.

[fresh reef]

yeah it's not so much about killing them fast enough as much as it is them spawning quick enough

would like if they made it so it counts even if Scrier's ends but you're under the effects of its buffs. Seems much more feasible to get

[upper galleon]

Ranged only maelstroms might help

[fresh reef]

wait that's a thing?

I've only ever seen the mostly melee one

[upper galleon]

Yee i think it is usually ranged only+ scab only

[fresh reef]

don't think I've seen that one a single time since maelstroms have been a thing lol

ty

[primal plume]

The mission where we got this couldnt have gone more smoothly

[tall mango]

What weapon have y’all used for the 40 kills during KG? I feel like i’m getting the 40 but I haven’t gotten it yet

[wind spruce]

Columnus

[tall mango]

Which blessings and perks?

[onyx sentinel]

getting the "Complete n consecutive missions" in pubs is pretty dogshit I just realized

[fresh reef]

Finally heard a brainburst voiceline

"Sorry, but you did deserve that"

[tall mango]

The smite lines are silly

[wind spruce]

Dumdum and deathspitter/fire frenzy

[tall mango]

Perfect, thank you sibling

[manic halo]

i NEED THIS

i need it

I WAANNNT ITTT

[wind spruce]

Dumdum is the top priority

[tall mango]

You wanna try and get it tomorrow with me?

[manic halo]

https://tenor.com/bbowW.gif

If times line up

im down

[tall mango]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-glory-kill-doom-glory-kill-doom-eternal-zombie-gif-18694440

[rich jolt]

Updates doing wonders for the game!😃

[upper sun]

i usually quit if something that bad happens tbh '

[nova bridge]

I want to try out Assail but is losing Psykinetic Aura worth it?

[manic halo]

give it a go!

[nova bridge]

Aye, fuck it. Will give it a try.

[manic halo]

good chouce

[cold ivy]

whenever the team is all plasma/revolver dudes who don't want to waste shots on the small untaggable gunners, it's assail's time to shine!

just throw a few darts to clear everything (it's also good against the elites, but usually those die pretty quick)

[nova bridge]

Aye, I was trying out Smite. Which was a lot of fun, however I found if my team didnt attack them whole stunned. It didn't do much. Sometimes the best CC is killing the thing.
Am only 23 now, so still leveling. Can imagine Dam being a different story.

[cold ivy]

assail is completely OP while levelling

[untold niche]

no its for zealot

the guy i was asking very pwo zealot but not in zealot chat

[near wyvern]

You need to be pretty much max level and at damnation+ to get the real value out of smite. The buff to Empowered Psionics smite damage makes it usable for horde clear if you pair it with battle meditation, but the true power comes out at auric maelstroms when combining warp charges and creeping flames with smite.

Smite to lock all the enemies down, creeping flames to apply damage and then you trigger the chain reaction of:

• perilous combustion
• battle meditation
• wildfire
• becalming eruption
• warp siphon
• inner tranquility
• in fire reborn
• warp battery

It's easier to get the infinite than what you think in auric maelstroms and extremely useful when you do it during a monstrosity fight as the rest of the team is free to burst it down while you have it all covered.

https://youtu.be/yrOmLUfNMw4

[untold niche]

pygex pls don't preach smite

i don't want any more smite users in my games

[near wyvern]

Well it is extremely good, at damnation+, at lower levels it's just a waste as you can power through with other stuff a lot faster. Only at damnation+ you get situations where you cannot simply DPS through.

[patent steeple]

btw, which way around does In Fire Reborn work? do I have to kill the enemy with the dot, or do I directly kill the enemy that happens to have the dot?

[compact cargo]

trauma gang

[near wyvern]

You need to land a killing blow on an enemy that has soulblaze applied to it. It can be from the soulblaze itself but if someone else kills it it cannot trigger.

[rigid sky]

Huh, different from how it was when it was part of ascendent blaze then?

[plucky flax]

Why would people not use their revolver or plasma on smol shooters?

[rigid sky]

Plasma can be used on them. Or at least it could pre surv nerf. Still not the most efficient way though

Revolver on reggie shooters feels baaaaaad though

[near wyvern]

Not really, I don't think the underlaying mechanic has changed since those days

[plucky flax]

Just take all ammo.

[rigid sky]

Sometimes you gotta but it feels bad

[cosmic sigil]

Ammo so bad with survivalist now /s

[rigid sky]

Iirc you used to even get charges from other psykers' warpfire

[plucky flax]

It's a nerf on muties train/bursters train/dogs train modifier. But otherwise it's only slightly worse.

[manic halo]

Smite players talking

[near wyvern]

Of forgot about that, you still do

[manic halo]

Smite this di-

[near wyvern]

But it's a weird interaction

And specific to a psyker killing a soulblazed target

[rigid sky]

HI/STG in general too. Multipacks of 10 shotgunners all sharing the same pixel are a thing lmao

[manic halo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1231132552987676692/galvanize_thyselves.mp4?ex=6635d889&is=66236389&hm=becfd0a065a2b6522d7ed7c2aabc0692c51414814db3bc6530d647faec4726f0&

[rigid sky]

But yeah, it was an aura that never needed to be as strong as it was

And it was never necessary

[near wyvern]

Ammo aura should be baseline to vets, change my mind

[rigid sky]

Nah, put it in the keystones

[manic halo]

No Fucken remove it and change it to something else

[rigid sky]

And make the ammo regen work differently based on which keystone

And maybe make it personal only for 2 of them

MF = ammo return on weakspot kills

FT = ammo return on killing tagged target dependent on stacks

WS = ammo return on something idk I don't fuck with WS

[near wyvern]

Veterans think they are playing the true ranged class while psykers pull bullets out of their mind

[rigid sky]

Also veteran being arguably the best melee class lmao

[near wyvern]

Hard to believe, I have seen some proper crusher zealot racking uncontested DPS

Or mauler or whatever it's called

The big bat

[manic halo]

The Paul

[near wyvern]

Not the hammer

[rigid sky]

The Crusher is fucking nuts yes

[manic halo]

Ye that’s the power maul

Right?

[near wyvern]

The maul yeah that one

[rigid sky]

Idk if it's huge dps though

[untold niche]

yeah its too good
I feel like im just hitttijng dummies in psk, im not even playing the game

[rigid sky]

It's good dps for the level of safety and versatility it has

[near wyvern]

Apparently if you get the blessings right and your build right you can just do this on horde, regardless what's in it:

[manic halo]

Ogryn paul in the corner like

[manic halo]

I will be like u some day

[near wyvern]

Would love to see a melee vet contest that

Cause melee psyker will definitely not lmao

Don't get me wrong, Psyker has some really good melee, for single targets, but it ain't a melee class no matter how you try to build it.

Melee is for defense and utliity

On Psykers

And for filling that one role spot in your build so you can do it all if needed

[manic halo]

This is where some weirdo comes in and says that the obscura force sword makes melee psyker viable

It’s a sleep peak bros I swear

[near wyvern]

Obscurus has the hint in its name

[manic halo]

It’s obscured by the other weapons shadows

And by that I mean illisi

[near wyvern]

And Deimos

[manic halo]

Basically he

Ye

[near wyvern]

Deimos is just the better Obscurus, Illisi is a side grade to Deimos, and MK4 DS it what Obscurus wants to be.

That is, the option between Deimos and Illisi is Mk 4 DS, not Obscurus

[manic halo]

Knife psyker will rise up

Just you watch

Force knife

[near wyvern]

I mean I main knife on almost all my builds so...

I play surge smite with knife

I play purgatus with knife

I play fire trauma with knife

I play void with knife

And I play Columnus with knife

[manic halo]

Yo same give it here

🖐️

High five

Don’t leave me hanging

[marble crater]

Why you use a knife if you can have cool swords?

[manic halo]

Nvm

Smite player

[near wyvern]

Because it has the best defense and mobility out of all the weapons. Your ranged options either do more damage or more CC than any of your melee options so I only use knife to remove those random Crushers, Maulers or Mutants at my face and to reposition, duel a monstrosity or tank a Daemonhost.

And focus on using my ranged options

Positioning in this game is vital, and knife does it the best

[manic halo]

Give psyker teleport

[near wyvern]

I guess I should state here I only play the game at auric

And that is auric damnation+

[rigid sky]

I think combat blade is like that Bell curve meme

[manic halo]

Not melstrom auric only

Pleb

[rigid sky]

Funni nife gud > noooooo knife bad > Funni nife gud

[near wyvern]

Not Maelstrom auric only because some funnier builds are not really usable at maelstroms and public maelstroms are a pain at times. You simply cannot solo auric maels, where as it is easy to solo auric damnation to the next res if your team sucks.

[marble crater]

I use a dueling sword for the mobility, and to poke muties, can I poke muties with a knife?

[manic halo]

I was just teasing you

[rigid sky]

Should be able

Knife is a single target killer

Depending on mark

[manic halo]

Pie ur scaring me

Stop typing

I’m sorry

[near wyvern]

2 heavies or push attacks to the head, knife 6 is simply the better knife for psykers as the push attack stab reaches the head hit box of a mutant through the sides and the back

[manic halo]

[near wyvern]

Also the horizontal first two heavies on knife 6 cleave through the body and will find the head but push attacks are faster if you are on skin already. So always sprint in with a heavy and finish with a push attack stab for fastest kills with knife.

[marble crater]

Thanks, once I start working on my zealot penances it's time to try a knife for those loner and stealth back stabs, maybe I like it enough to try it on psyker as well

[hearty dagger]

mfw i stun 10 ragers and everyone walks past them

[near wyvern]

If you think you can't land the push attack clean then it's better to do a second heavy instead than going for a couple push stab attempts

[manic halo]

That’s when your purposely blow

Just to send a message

[rigid sky]

Hit the Shriek too and they'll die. Eventually.

[hearty dagger]

Honestly just straight up annoying when they come over and just shoot a single one and leave too

Makes me think "Oh they're dealing with them, quell and stun again"

Nope.

Veteran just really wanted to get a plasma shot off

[near wyvern]

The trick is to run kinetic deflection for Psykers as this allows you to use your peril bar for blocking. You are then free to spam push attacks and sprint as much as you want while still being able to block hits.

For example, if you catch a rager that haven't started their attack string you can spam push attacks to perma stagger them (they will die in 2-3 ish head stabs tho) and against maulers if you cannot escape them you can do push attack into the special stun to stagger them out of the overhead but the special punch needs to hit their head and hou need to do a push attack first or it will not be enough to stagger.

For the record, kinetic deflection converts your peril bar to 4x the amount of max stamina you have so use one +3 stamina for absurd amount of blocking power with knife.

[upper sun]

🤔

[untold niche]

GUYS

[upper sun]

stam unstable nvm

[untold niche]

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[marble crater]

I run kinetic deflection and one stamina curio on all my builds, I very much enjoy being able to block forever if I get into a bad spot I can give the mauler stunning a try if I need to, but I will probably be comfortable if I dodge it, thank you

[upper sun]

wish listed

also The Big Con is free on epic

[untold niche]

I DO0NT SUPPORT EPIK

caps

but that was funny

[rigid sky]

I can't afford Kinetic deflection on my purgatus build and it feels so bad

But I block less on my purgatus anyway

[upper sun]

neither do i but its free

[upper sun]

dont you go EP purge? how cant you afford it

[rigid sky]

I also can't afford that 5% crit node which feels worse

[rigid sky]

WS for me

[upper sun]

tbh fam

drop the last node of warp for the crit

[rigid sky]

With purgatus I try to be burning all the time

[upper sun]

i think 5% crit might be better than 2 extra charges

well not better but maybe more reliable

[marble crater]

Affordable kinetic deflection

[rigid sky]

I get 6 charges very rapidly

[rigid sky]

You drop soulstealer and Kinetic Resonance though

I used to skip Resonance and take the 5% crit node

But feels so bad lmao

Especially since 6WS can Shriek so frequently

[near wyvern]

You don't need warp battery since you want to use your ult on CD during fights

[rigid sky]

I like warp battery to make the CD even shorter though lmao

[marble crater]

I need it for bigger number = better

[rigid sky]

And I skip wildfire on purgatus

[marble crater]

I do too, because I run it with assail

[near wyvern]

It is not realistically possible to get the charges back before ult comes off CD with 6 stack ult

[rigid sky]

Since the delayed trigger and the continual warpfire I'm spewing makes it not add much as far as I can see

[rigid sky]

In Fire Reborn can be pretty crazy lmao

[near wyvern]

Wildlife allows you to flame two fronts effectively, so instead of holding one direction you can hold off two cause you don't need to start stacking up from 0.

[rigid sky]

Maybe I drop to 4 stacks as a new iteration though

Eh, Shriek does that less marginally I think

I'm not totally anti-wildfire, I would take it if I had like 4 more points and I think it's great on Blaze trauma

I just feel like it doesn't suit Purgatus as well as it suits Trauma

[marble crater]

Since you wrote the holy psyker book I will trust you and give it a try, going to put that extra point in soul stealer instead I guess?

[near wyvern]

Here is how I roll with Wildfire, the key is to not stay and flame forever but to apply enough stacks and move on, you will learn this by experience what is enough

https://youtu.be/1G9dUk2xLjY

[near wyvern]

You can if you want, I like faster BB for the moments when you have a room full of gunners or snipers. Don't really have any toughness regen issues since I run essence harvest and quietitude with 2 toughness curios and toughness regen on all

[untold niche]

random level +143 psyker i found

he took ds4 as well

[marble crater]

Faster BB sounds good as well, usually don't have toughness issues on trauma either thanks to mettle and quelling 24/7

Maybe BB will finally be useful

[near wyvern]

BB with kinetic resonance is really good even without EP

[rigid sky]

Even without Resonance, it's kinda usable

But it feels fucking awful lmao

[marble crater]

Good, not a big fan of BB EP, I feel like I don't use it enough and I sit on the charges too long and basically don't have a keystone

[rigid sky]

It works really well with bubble

[upper sun]

ye i do the same only no KD toughness on kill instead

i forgot what its called

[rigid sky]

When you breach a bottleneck, plop bubble, stand in it, and channel rupture at any of the parts where you see lots of bullets hitting your shield

Gunner kill spam

Works really well for me on trauma

[near wyvern]

Yeah EP BB is nice with trauma

[manic river]

Angry Psyker

[dim parrot]

why does he have to be an xbox player

imma punch him for u if I encounter him

[manic river]

Smite/Shield only on a Poxburster/Blitz Maelstrom

[dim parrot]

classic

[upper sun]

"dont leave me"
get better positioning

[manic river]

He was the backline

[upper sun]

i got yelled at by one psyker for running behind a chaos spawn to revive two people

like bro it was archivum sycorax jump down the flight of stairs and the chaos spawn needs 2 minutes to catch up

[dim parrot]

lmao yeah

if it doesn't focus u and the one that has the aggro is capable enough to tank for a sec, I will always try to revive the downed player if its safe to revive

then again, bold of me to assume guy is capable enough

[upper sun]

they were full on dead and tbh they had better boss damage

[manic river]

Since this major update many horrible console players are joining back lol

[upper sun]

i was doing heavy sword/bolter bullshit on zealot so i thought the rescues would be a better use

tbh

my blocklist is 50% steam 40# windows gamepass and 10% xbox

idk whats it like in other regions

[manic river]

Every game I have now at least 5 console players RQ

per game

It's so funny

[upper sun]

console players are alright in eu at least

but too much vc 😭

[manic river]

They are not lol

I'm from EU

[upper sun]

ye same

idk maybe im luckier with gaming times

[manic river]

I don't usually block people to avoid matchmaking because you barely encounter the same again

[dim parrot]

I apologize on behalf of all the ones that fall way to early

[manic river]

but this is becoming a problem

A plague I'd say

Yes I said Plague

[upper sun]

i only block toxic people

bad people can learn toxic people cant

[manic river]

I mean a lv 500 psyker can learn to play better¿?

For me that's beyond salvation

[dim parrot]

maybe his cat is playing

[upper sun]

just turn off true level itll make your life easier

[untold niche]

how come the top damage and bottom damage a little different?

[manic river]

I'd understand someone new being bad but people with many hours play this bad are not worth the time

[untold niche]

top damage say my actual damage 421k but bottom total damage is 374k

[upper sun]

lots of over kill damage

[radiant frigate]

[untold niche]

no the top one is separated by actual and overkill, and the bottom one is less than the top one's actual.

[upper sun]

🤔

idk

[radiant frigate]

you ever seen someone complain about someone picking up 0 plasteel?

is that a common thing

[dim parrot]

I never witnessed it no

[upper sun]

yes me

pls pick up

[dim parrot]

lol

[upper sun]

i mean like if one person is picking up everything in a room before we even enter it its ok

[plucky flax]

Finally got maelstrom without anyone going down. 💀

[supple dock]

never. i had a guy salty because I wanted to keep a medkit instead of a script but that's about it

[plucky flax]

I got it last after 10 auric no down or 5 maelstrom in a row no down (death)

[radiant frigate]

i have seen it twice in the past few days

[upper sun]

but id like to finish a game with around 700 minimum

[dim parrot]

is there a mod to make plasteel into gnome chompski?

[radiant frigate]

it was so weird to me because who picks up how much is something i do not track with the socreboard

never even occurred to me that people look at that

[supple dock]

right? that's weird

[upper sun]

you can cheese it with altf4ing

but tbh im not gonna bother with it if i get it i get it

[plucky flax]

I can't control other players.

They go down all the time to the most random stuff.

[upper sun]

ye

[dim parrot]

true

[upper sun]

the barrels man

THE BARRELS

[radiant frigate]

gravity and crabwalking atm

[dim parrot]

and then u cant even altf4 fast enough

[plucky flax]

Not barrels even they just love eating mauler/crusher overhead.

[radiant frigate]

i have also been doing that more than i care to admit

[hearty dagger]

Zealot players on their way to Chastise The Wicked directly into the nearest Daemonhost

[radiant frigate]

"eh, i should be in the clear" bonk "i was not"

[plucky flax]

I just played a round with 25 stacks dd assail voidstrike but the UI didn't show up.

So I had no clue if I ran the entire round with 25 stacks or 10 stacks.

[radiant frigate]

your destiny is being disrupted

[patent wing]

Regarding the purge discussion above:

why would u play warp charge purge staff? it generates no peril anyway, better invest in EP

[plucky flax]

Warp charges for more creeping flames spam.

[patent wing]

but why do i need to spam it?
its not like I need dmg while smiting

better larp a fking flame throwing tank with dome

[supple dock]

it can also be used to help people out of bad situations, out of being dogged, can just use it for more damage if you're surrounded, can use it if you or your allies are cornered..

most versatile skill in the game imo

[gilded marten]

purgatus dump stats?

[plucky flax]

Spam it to kill stuff faster.

[supple dock]

isn't purg's dump stat damage?

[plucky flax]

Damage and warp resist.

[supple dock]

yee

[gilded marten]

aight

[rigid sky]

So you know you don't have to take inner tranquility right lmao

[patent wing]

purge kills stuff fast enough except armor thats why EP charges are kinda important imo. also its slow gameplay and you lock yourself down which makes dome even more important

[rigid sky]

I use the uncanny trick to get through carapace

Set them in fire then start tapping the dome with a Deimos or DS4

But I can see going bubble EP working great too

Bubble BR EP is really good on any short-range build

[patent wing]

i use both but i try to not let them come close

[rigid sky]

Yeah, depends on the situation

[near wyvern]

I have heard the scoreboard (top number) is overestimating your damage while the ovenproof plugin (bottom value) is more accurate. However, even with overestimation or inaccuracies the numbers on the same row are comparable to each other.

[untold niche]

ah thanks

[near wyvern]

I use creeping flames with KR, ult to delete trash in your face, then start banging on those crushers/bulwarks/gunners/reapers

And otherwise purgatus staff if I don't need to BB

Essence harvest and side dodges give you enough survivability against ranged while doing it

[rigid sky]

Yeah, all that is my preferred way too

My purgatus build differs from yours by like 2 points iirc

But I like bubble for Trauma, and Trauma and Purgatus do have a bit of overlap (although the difference is enough for me to prefer different builds with the two)

[untold niche]

i love the game so much now

auric tension is actuallyt

[manic river]

Auric is full of dummies now

xd

[marble crater]

Before I jump into my second auric game later, is there a hidden difference to normal damnation or is it just the 24/7 modifiers?

[near wyvern]

People chasing for the title

[plucky flax]

It's me sry.

[leaden mulch]

buy or skip ?

[near wyvern]

Modifiers is the only difference but they can get pretty bonkers at times, for example if you get increased special spawns, nurgles blessing and monstrous specialist there will be a lot of special spawns which often turn into monstrosities (weakened) but they can also get the green buff to become stronger than weakened but a bit weaker than normal. If you get even worse luck you get a buffed regular monster with many weakened ones during a horde.

It is essential to have:

• good horde clear
• good monstrosity DPS
• good ranged clear

On any Auric mission. And you only really can afford to drop one player, two down often results in a wipe.

[near wyvern]

For melk bucks, skip

You wanna spare you melks for getting T4 blessings you don't have

[untold niche]

i tried a few times then i realized with my playstyle its just not possible lol

[near wyvern]

Only buy from melk if a weapon is 370+ with nice stats and fixable blessings & perks or if it has a T4 to add to your collection

[marble crater]

Well that sounds like a lot of fun

[manic river]

Can't even get it right

[untold niche]

thje red mask for sure doesn't change player voice though

[near wyvern]

It is with the right team. With a bunch of level 40 players it's not.

[untold niche]

pygex is it just me or this patch they really turned up a5mael tension?

[near wyvern]

They increased the spawn rate of patrols in aurics

[untold niche]

no even the specialist waves actually feels like specialist waves xD
and look at the amount of bosses

[untold niche]

but yeah thanks for telling me, didn't know

see total team damage

sorry i just love this game so much now

[near wyvern]

Oh didn't even notice they claim to have fixed gaze CD reduction

So it should according to notes work with warp siphons and psycinetics aura while it is going on

Gotta test that next week

[marble crater]

You mean cooldown getting lowered while it's active?

[untold niche]

yeah there wa ssome chat about how it can overlap now

also @marble crater im surprised you haven't touched aurics yet

[near wyvern]

Yup, does it work with warp siphons as well?

[upper sun]

ye even if the third player isnt doing too well they can at least take aggro

[marble crater]

Me too, regular damnation is starting to be comfy, so now is the time to move to auric damnation I guess

[upper sun]

i had a couple of games where it was me an another person and even if we were not dying moving gets very hard until they nickle and dime you to death

[near wyvern]

Or Res the fourth

The only time you can deal with two is if you have the next Res spot near enough

[plucky flax]

Play surge illisi smite warp charges and breeze through auric.

Veri kool build.

[marble crater]

Definitely better than trauma, that's for sure

[ornate hamlet]

Any example builds for this?

[supple dock]

#psyker-class message

@ornate hamlet

[upper sun]

ye thats what i use too except no pc but more toughness instead

[untold niche]

what build u use to get the auric storm title?

[plucky flax]

At the start is build
https://youtu.be/sz7L0QuU6Us

[plucky flax]

What's auric storm?

[untold niche]

the no die 5 time in a5mael

[plucky flax]

Modifier dependant

[untold niche]

elaborate abit

[manic river]

State of the playerbase;

Wrong channel

[untold niche]

how u choose what build to run based on modifier

[plucky flax]

If it's enhanced blitz play assail voidstrike

Normal modifier illisi surge smite

Melee scab only blaze trauma

[untold niche]

this is smite spam?

or just surge but with smite

[plucky flax]

Surge with warp charges creeping flames spam

[untold niche]

ooo

cause im playing zealot now

tot maybe off cahnce you got it with zealot

[upper sun]

Enhanced blitz with 3 nuke ogryn and one field improv vet

that would be a sight to behold

[marble crater]

If they throw all the bombs at the same time the game would crash, it's not very stable right now after the patch

[dim parrot]

wasn't stable before the patch lmao

[marble crater]

Before I didn't have random disconnects or crashes, I had 3 in one match the other day

[patent wing]

whats kr

[smoky wigeon]

Alright guys how the hell do y'all make scruers gaze work

[patent wing]

we just lost on arena map never ever i saw such bad players

[marble crater]

Kinetic resonance, brain rupture add on

[patent wing]

ah yeah

[smoky wigeon]

Please how

[radiant frigate]

i admit it is me actually

[ionic sorrel]

🤝

[plucky flax]

Then just play stealth loner combat axe and taking hr

Can't die.

[marble crater]

In the few missions I played with it, I used it whenever I either cleared a horde in melee, or wanted to shoot a group of elites/boss with my gun

[smoky wigeon]

Doesn't your uhhhhh percentage thingy go up like way too fast?

[marble crater]

Depends on how fast you kill, but yes

The more you kill, the slower it will go up

[smoky wigeon]

Man, guess Ill need an illisi fo rthis bad boy or something

[supple dock]

You use non-force weapons

[smoky wigeon]

Whats the best horde cleave weapon for Psyker?

[supple dock]

melee or ranged?

[smoky wigeon]

I...guess melee?

[marble crater]

Many run gunker with a dueling sword, but that was too risky for me and I use an illisi instead

[supple dock]

illisi is the defacto best horde clear sword

[plucky flax]

Do you not use assail with gun?

It'd help thin horde so much.

[smoky wigeon]

Okay so if im using Illisi what do yall do for crushers / Maulers?

[supple dock]

brain burst, surge staff, void staff, trauma staff

most guns

[marble crater]

Me? I do, still though, maybe after I play more gunker I will feel better with a dueling sword in hordes

[smoky wigeon]

hmmmmm

[ionic sorrel]

I use devils claw on my scriers build. Pretty fun.

[supple dock]

dueling sword 4 is passable at hordeclear and wrecks armor

[ionic sorrel]

Also, combat axe is pretty fun with scriers too.

[smoky wigeon]

hmmmmm this is hard

[rigid sky]

I use DS4 now

Since Illisi doesn't do Crushers well

[smoky wigeon]

is that Dueling Sword?

[supple dock]

ye

dueling sword mk 4

[smoky wigeon]

Ive no idea how dueling swords even work lol

[ionic sorrel]

Get the blessing on axe where weakspot kill ignores hit mass and take all the skulls.

[rigid sky]

Yep. With DD/SG it even horde clears well

[supple dock]

light attack hordes, power attack everything else

[marble crater]

You run fast and heavy poke things in the face

[rigid sky]

Heavy attack head to kill crushers

[smoky wigeon]

Okay guys im gonna try DS4

[rigid sky]

DS4 heavies are all pokes of death

[smoky wigeon]

What blessings?

[rigid sky]

Get uncanny

[smoky wigeon]

Ohhhhh so its like H2 on my deimos?

[rigid sky]

Second is flexible

Yep

[smoky wigeon]

Woahhhhhh thats awesome

btw you guys all rock I appreciate the help 😄

Makes the game fun having help

[supple dock]

i like the illisi because surge staff is pretty good at single target

so I just use that for horde clear and unaugmented BR for snipers or specials coming around a corner that I hear

[marble crater]

I want a horde clear dueling sword

[supple dock]

i mean isn't mk 2 the horde clear one

[smoky wigeon]

so wiat DS4 doesnt horde clear well?

[supple dock]

you CAN, but yeah it's pretty meh

[marble crater]

Is it? Or is it just better at it than the other two, while still not being great at it? I haven't tested it

[rigid sky]

DS4 is good enough for it, with DD and SG

I still get the praise line triggers pure meleeing

And gunker tends to take Assail to back it up with too

You really benefit from having a way to eliminate Crushers fast

If you don't take DS4 it ends up being a big weakness

[supple dock]

It's "technically" the horde clear sword but it sucks ass at the thing it's supposed to do

[rigid sky]

Otherwise Illisi is great

The other Duelling swords don't crack Crushers open nearly as well

[upper sun]

yeah

mk2 is a mix and mk5 is just goofy

[supple dock]

A high stat illisi CAN put a bit of pain on crushers and maulers, but it's not ideal

[upper sun]

maybe you can mix l1h2 on mk2 for better clear

[upper sun]

and use the special to reset the combo for heavy chain

but idk

[smoky wigeon]

what should I add to this?

I know the rolls are mid BUT ITS THE BEST I HAVE'

[supple dock]

The rending one and whatever else looks good imo

[smoky wigeon]

I have uncanny 4 unlocked

should I replace Shred or rposte?

[upper sun]

unarmored to maniac and ripo to uncanny?

[rigid sky]

Imo riposte to uncanny

[upper sun]

im not sure

[smoky wigeon]

RIPOSTE TO UNCANNY I TIS!

[rigid sky]

And weakspot to Carapace?

Wait no

Shred to uncanny

[smoky wigeon]

UH OH

TOO LATE

[rigid sky]

Idk lol

[smoky wigeon]

lmao

[fathom totem]

You don't stab crushers. :p

[rigid sky]

Well both good

[smoky wigeon]

its all good

[upper sun]

nah shred is fine

[marble crater]

I run shred and uncanny on mine as well

[rigid sky]

Different conditions really

[fathom totem]

I actually like weakspot dmg with maniac.

[plucky flax]

Play rampage ds4

[rigid sky]

Second blessing is flexible anyway, those are two of the top options for it

Uncanny is required

Rampage another good option yeah

[rigid sky]

I think mine is maniac/Carapace maybe, idk

[marble crater]

Rampage and uncanny? I don't know which blessing is locked

[rigid sky]

Crushers are the only thing that my DS4 is required on

[smoky wigeon]

hmmm man idk

[upper sun]

also

[smoky wigeon]

the Deimos H2 knock down is so damn good

[upper sun]

ds4 is like one of few weapons where weakspot is ok because it has such a huge gab in normal to weakspot damage

[fathom totem]

You be stabbing heads most of the time. So, that 10% counts for everything.

[rigid sky]

Oh yeah, Deimos is great too. I take that on my Purgatus

[fathom totem]

Plus one shot muties

[rigid sky]

While true, bear in mind that it isn't quite 10%

[plucky flax]

Yeah rampage uncanny. I have multiple ds4 depend on the build.

[rigid sky]

DD alone covers that I think?

[plucky flax]

Rampage uncanny for horde clear. Uncanny shred for when I play a horde clear staff.

[rigid sky]

It only works off the weakspot bonus which is like 2.2x or something

[plucky flax]

Or uncanny riposte. Both good.

[marble crater]

If shred is locked on mine, will you give me one of yours then, I don't want to roll another one

[rigid sky]

So you actually get like 6% or something on a DS4

[smoky wigeon]

so with my DS4 im H2 special attack h2 over and over in the head?

[plucky flax]

Sure I have so many.

[fathom totem]

I have a few swords. I gravitate to the one with maniac and weakspot for most of my games.

[rigid sky]

Heavy special loop, or heavy spam

[plucky flax]

Also uncanny t3 is good. You don't need t4.

[marble crater]

Thanks, I will give you a 75 rating +3 stamina curio

[rigid sky]

Both good

[rigid sky]

Heretic.

[plucky flax]

Rampage t3 is okay too but t4 is nicer. While uncanny t3 and t4 is the same at 5 stacks.

[marble crater]

[rigid sky]

But on my gunker in particular I highly favour Carapace bonus

[supple dock]

rampage is so... bleh on DS

The only way you can proc it is with the push attack

[rigid sky]

I think that perk is my rerolled one so I can even mod it between matches if I use it on another build lmao

[plucky flax]

Yes but then your light attack can proc it.

[fathom totem]

You should really be testing it in psykhanium instead of taking all the information you get here at face value.

[plucky flax]

Rampage is actually power. So 36% increase cleave.

[supple dock]

oh true

it's still cumbersome though

[rigid sky]

Hard to test DD builds there though

[fathom totem]

Every weapon has different dmg %. Breakpoints might diff.

[plucky flax]

So you only need the first push attack to proc it. Then spam light.

[rigid sky]

Or dodge bonuses

But you can calculate what the bonus you get would be

[marble crater]

Testing is expensive

[smoky wigeon]

Yeah I dont have unlimited plasty

Im testing my DS4 rn in the psyk

[rigid sky]

Peasant lmao

(I kid)

[smoky wigeon]

I AM A PEASENT

[fathom totem]

Large amount of information you get from people are preference based most of the time.

[supple dock]

imagine being poor

[plucky flax]

Not having at least 50k plasteels

[supple dock]

sitting on 150k plasteel

[smoky wigeon]

DUDE HOW THE FUCK

[rigid sky]

Playstyle dependent too

[smoky wigeon]

i only ever had like ...6k at a time lol

[fathom totem]

That too.

[rigid sky]

+maniac on a melee is worth less if you shoot Maniacs exclusively

[plucky flax]

You can trust me I'm top 1%.

[rigid sky]

But strong if you like to melee kill Mutants etc

[marble crater]

Once you have the weapons you want, there is no reason to spend more plasteel

[supple dock]

I have about 1350 hours and the weapons I want to use are nearly perfect, no reason to keep on making them

[upper sun]

had 30k then got bored and used it

[marble crater]

I'm saving everything for the crafting update now, who knows what we might need to do what

[plucky flax]

Try to craft a perfect god roll blaze trauma. No amount of dockets and plasteels is enough in this crafting system.

[upper sun]

anywhere between 3-7 months

[rigid sky]

Similarly, wouldn't take Carapace on a Duelling Sword if my plan is to brain rupture or void staff them

[rigid sky]

Or a merely acceptable rashad lmao

Beginner weapon, but a stat trap

[plucky flax]

I have like 5 radhad with 70+ all damage stats.

[upper sun]

this is more than good enough

[rigid sky]

Well that's a fucking godroll lmao

[upper sun]

im done with trauma void and purge

i just need my autism surge

[rigid sky]

Like literally

Screw the carrion lord

[upper sun]

and a deimos with executor uncanny

[rigid sky]

That staff is the Emperor now

[plucky flax]

Hrm I'd take my staff over that.

I can get blazing spirits t4 when it's released.

[upper sun]

😨

say it aint so joe

[marble crater]

[rigid sky]

Blazing spirit 4 would be like a lot stronger than 3 already is, too

[plucky flax]

My guess is 4 stacks per crit to max 8 stacks.

So 1 more than current.

[upper sun]

i have these in case that ever happens who knows

[ivory cloak]

i saw in some videos it shows soulblaze numbers on enemies, which mod is that?

[cosmic sigil]

you're topless

[plucky flax]

[plucky flax]

Debuff indicator

Mods are cheating tho

[upper sun]

oh no cheating against the ai is such a crime

[marble crater]

64% damage

[upper sun]

yes

[smoky wigeon]

okay DS4 slaps

shits so fun

with DD and Scryers Gaze I feel like ikm WRECKING

okay NOW I GOTTA KILL 40 enemies while under scryers gaze

[supple dock]

yee, just be careful. You do NOT have the same level of "not get fucked" as the other archetypes have

One errant attack by an enemy will chain stun you to death

[smoky wigeon]

Oh I know

I will have an awesome run then OMFG IM DEAD WHAT HOW WHY

[supple dock]

mmhm. Glass cannon. You are equipped to deal with ANY enemy, but any enemy is equipped to eat you alive

[rigid sky]

Yeah, gunker sacrifices psyker battlefield control

For MOAR DAMAGE

Your CC is just immense violence.

[smoky wigeon]

Yeah idk what staff to run with DS

[supple dock]

tbh you can run anything with ds4

[smoky wigeon]

Yeah I took the uhh trauma? to CC when theres a BRUNCH of crushers / maulers

knock em over or if im corners

[rigid sky]

Purgatus and Trauma work well with it but I prefer Deimos for those

I mostly just pair it with those funny staves that shoot bullets out of the end.

[supple dock]

I run illisi because I have surge staff. good coverage overall

[rigid sky]

Illisi with Surge, yeah. I also like Illisi with Void these days.

Since Void is more of a nuker, less of a crowd clearer than it used to be

[supple dock]

I may not have the best at dealing with specific things, but I can cover it with moderate competency 😄

[plucky flax]

Only smite and do it against monster.

[mental grail]

I run illisi unless I lack any other carapace weapon

Its just that good imo

[supple dock]

yeaah illisi is a monster

[marble crater]

[supple dock]

"why was i kicked i was melting the beast of nurgle ):"

[mental grail]

I have like 6-7 builds saved on my psyker and all except like 2 have illisi on them, the others have deimos

[supple dock]

deimos is also insane

[mental grail]

yup

[supple dock]

Those swords are also good at keeping your peril around 60-80%

you start to go down? special once or twice to get it back

[mental grail]

I haven't touched any non-force sword in a long ass time

It's great for warpfire builds

[rigid sky]

DS4 for gunker

Trust me

[mental grail]

cause at 85% you'll always get the upgraded vent

[supple dock]

yeee

but I run surge and that shit is peril expensive

[granite mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/nap-time-sleepy-tired-mummy-voldemort-gif-16170362

[plucky flax]

I think I'd never get that. I only play cdr aura.

[supple dock]

lmao that sucks ass, such a mid tier aura

[plucky flax]

One of the worst aura in game.

[granite mauve]

it's p bad

but doesn't handicap me so

[plucky flax]

Probably the flat out worst.

[granite mauve]

it's just gonna take a while

[plucky flax]

I'd go blaze trauma and play melee scab only.

[granite mauve]

the prescience penance was done in like

2 mission

thed cdr one being the second longest

[upper sun]

just go with a premade and grind them out afk

[granite mauve]

no

[upper sun]

2grims+zealot purity aura and its done

[granite mauve]

pug only

need to farm mission completions anyway

[upper sun]

im doing dd and crit ones now

ye i get ya

[granite mauve]

for the finish mission x amount of times

[upper sun]

sedation speed runs?

thats what i usually do i cant enjoy the game with weeklies on my mind

[granite mauve]

actually it's not that bad

it's not per missions

it's per zones

[supple dock]

it's better to do it on auric difficulty because of the elite/special density

[granite mauve]

and there like 4 missions per zone i think or 3 in some cases

[granite mauve]

yeah

i aim for stg mostly

[upper sun]

yeah

[granite mauve]

18 special waves

[upper sun]

oooor OOOOR

do excise vault and farm the infinite specialists at the end

[supple dock]

such a griiind

im just gonna play like normal until I can't complete any more penances on psyker

[upper sun]

set up an auto clicker

[supple dock]

Then I'll start doing shit specifically for it

[granite mauve]

you're gonna complete stuff just by playing anyway

[upper sun]

hell yeah

iktf

[granite mauve]

like, destroying the idols

it counts for you even when your teammates do it

[plucky flax]

Don't like these penance that for me to play a certain way though.

Like using gazer or bubble.

[marble crater]

You don't need all penances to get all rewards, can definitely skip some, like 400 points worth I think

[plucky flax]

Yeah I'll miss out on this master psyker pendant thingy.

I guess I'm just not good enough.

[supple dock]

nah, not about being good

It's the enjoyment/effort ratio

[marble crater]

Too much blaze trauma and surge fries the brain

Skill level drops

[rigid sky]

It's meant to be an encouragement to try other builds I guess

[plucky flax]

Me I only know how to play blaze trauma and surge.

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Both involve creeping flames spam.

[upper sun]

im trying to do the momentum stacks/knife ones on zealot its hell

[plucky flax]

Yeah momentum nerf doesn't help.

Now you need to reach max stacks.

Also cd nerf too.

6s to get 15 stacks.

[marble crater]

They wrote that penance text before they decided to nerf momentum, didn't they?

[plucky flax]

Yeah they need to revert the nerf.

It wasn't as strong as martyrdom anyway.

Since most of the time you're at 8~15 stacks and that's with 8s cd and 20 stacks cap.

[dusk void]

I got that penance last night. No clue how I did it though. I just keep playing

[marble crater]

That's one of those you will get automatically sooner or later, not worried about any of the aura penances, except maybe loner on zealot

[stiff falcon]

I got a decent one

[plucky flax]

[stiff falcon]

It’s quite good

[marble crater]

Nice

[plucky flax]

Is it? I heard blaze trauma super bad.

[marble crater]

Please buff

[stiff falcon]

No more wrist pain from dealing with m1 melee

[plucky flax]

You don't get wrist pain from da flick?

[marble crater]

From what now

[plucky flax]

Flicking trauma to extend range.

[marble crater]

Sounds like something I don't want to deal with

[brittle cargo]

Wait does it actually extend range? I wondered why you do that

[plucky flax]

Idk if normal people do it..

But I do.

[marble crater]

I don't have enough buttons on my controller to do that

[plucky flax]

Play at max right stick sensitivity.

And inverse y axis.

[upper sun]

main ogryn rumbler
invert mouse
main trauma

[marble crater]

I don't know, this advice doesn't sound like you have my best interests in mind

[upper sun]

nah its good ur fine

[marble crater]

Maybe also change the sticks to legacy?

[cosmic sigil]

God damn I have a problem with crushers tonight

I have been killed time and time again trying to dodge and hitting a wall or getting the aoe overhead of death

[upper sun]

tbh i have that problem with maulers but not crushers for some reason

[cosmic sigil]

Should have brought a revolver 😦

Or void

I tried that. It worked quite well.

[rigid sky]

Other options are brain rupture, or some kind of melee weapon that kills crushers fast (Deimos or DS4 usually)

or Surge

[upper galleon]

Surge doesnt really kill crushers fast, or as fast as i think it should

It does lock them down however

[rigid sky]

I think it used to be better until they normalised the ADMs or something

it used to actually kill flak and carapace quite fast

back when it did very bad damage to everything else

[upper galleon]

It used to be better when it was bugged with smite EP

[rigid sky]

well that too lmao but that was a short time right?

[plucky flax]

Why I'm not looking straight.

[upper galleon]

Also no, old pre rework surge staff damage sucked ass

The only use case i found was taking flak and popping scab trash shooters

[late sapphire]

Back on the old day surge was between current surge and smite, duh

[upper galleon]

Join the club

[rigid sky]

It was a CC stick that did surprisingly good damage to enemies with flak or carapace bodies iirc

[plucky flax]

Why this guy pink?

[rigid sky]

like, still dogshit compared to current surge but you were using it for the cc spam anyway

[plucky flax]

WTF

[upper galleon]

It does more to carapace now than it used to, carapace back then was too bulky with hp for surge to work

Also i remember post surge rework watched a psyker spam the staff into a horde until it ran him over

[supple dock]

LOL

[supple dock]

i ran surge pre-rework and it was fine as a way to cc, you used your sword for a lot of your damage

[cosmic sigil]

Tbh I never had a good experience trying to kill a crusher with a ds or Deimos. Don't know why.

[rigid sky]

Do you have uncanny on them?

and on Deimos tbh if it's a single crusher and I feel safe I'll even use the special on it

[upper galleon]

The horrors

[upper galleon]

Tbh no it wasnt, in auric and hi damn you’d eventually get overwhelmed if your team was stupid. Smite really blows surge out the water

Simply too little damage and targets

[supple dock]

was auric even a thing before the rework? Either way, it was fine, I completed damnation and probably auric damnation just fine with it

[rigid sky]

So, this patch. Pretty big.

Was gonna try to get some games in with my gf today but we're looking at a 3 hour download

[jovial juniper]

9+ Gb

[upper sun]

theres another hotfix?

[supple dock]

n, i think bro just hasn't updated since the big update

[rigid sky]

It was my birthday last week and my mum's been staying over with us

so today's potentially my first chance to play the new patch

[upper sun]

hell yeah

so you havent even ran the game?

[marble crater]

Uh oh

[echo turtle]

The heavy 2 strike on the deimos knocks crushers to the ground if you hit them in the face. To handle crushers and rangers block push, then heavy strike. The followup heavy will always be a heavy 2

Uncanny is a must on force swords, the damage increase is massive

[rigid sky]

Not yet lol

[shrewd holly]

4/5 revolver 🙂

[tacit jungle]

https://i.gyazo.com/7ed814ea2b38dc23441f51b493bc6b58.png

is it over or can I fix this somehow

swear to god I get these fucking 80 stat sticks and hadron assfucks me every time, happened to two voidstrikes too

[marble crater]

Uncanny instead of precog and then something else instead of sprint? To block even longer

[tacit jungle]

Exactly my thoughts too, thinking about carapace for the perk but not sure tbh

[marble crater]

Or maniac or unyielding

[tacit jungle]

just rolled this fucker too https://i.gyazo.com/e99e74d64208bfc0d366b8bc7e98009c.png

[plucky flax]

Nice I'd change both perks.

[tacit jungle]

rampage seems a bit ass on this though

[plucky flax]

It's good for horde clear. If you won't ever use sword for horde then it's wasted aye.

[tacit jungle]

running voidstrike and smite atm but only empra knows what I'll change into

I'll just slap uncanny on the first one and turn the other one into horde mincer, who knows, might come in handy later

thanks for the ideas ❤️

[upper sun]

imagine rolling 1/4 of the things you want on a ds4

couldnt be me

[tacit jungle]

you'll get it one day beloved said so

[upper sun]

not possible i stopped trying

i have like 4 good ds4 bases im not gonna fuck with until they fix crafting

[plucky flax]

Why u have no good ds4?

[marble crater]

Doesn't try hard enough to have good luck

[plucky flax]

Just craft them it's not hard.

[upper sun]

i have bases

i dont wanna waste the plasteel

[plucky flax]

Enjoy waiting until 2026

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[marble crater]

We can farm 1k plasteel per mission now, do it

[upper sun]

2029 is gonna be our year darktide bros

i forgot i had this

finesse a bit low tho

[rich spindle]

yes lol I copied this from shooting stickies as demoman in tf2

pretty much the exact same thing

[marble crater]

We could use a favorite or lock function for gear, to avoid forgetting things, especially with only 5 load out slots

[upper sun]

ye ikno

it doesnt help that im kind of a horder

[marble crater]

I suppose not

[rich spindle]

im hoarding all my oranges hoping that you'll be able to sell them for plasteel

[radiant frigate]

i'm hoarding plasteel so i can make a force greatsword when it releases

[gloomy magnet]

did any sibling encounter the same issue? sometimes i cant stack destinies

[mighty olive]

i think it's a visual bug

cause when i dont see the stacks, i still feel THE POWWWAAAA OF THE WARP

[gloomy magnet]

gosh, visual glitch😩

[smoky wigeon]

Okay straight up....

[gloomy magnet]

This bug made me suspect that I'm not fast enough to kill enemies

[smoky wigeon]

Ds4 is aight. But Deimos stab is still 1 shot kill like everything

2 shot crushers

[gloomy magnet]

everything except crusher

[smoky wigeon]

Yeah

[gloomy magnet]

im not afraid of crushers cuz veteran's grenades will boom boom boom

[smoky wigeon]

Guess it's the fact DS is so fast?

[fast frost]

Rahhh I love being a backline menace that’s never in danger rahhh

Have had my psyker resurgence this week and loved it

[gloomy magnet]

this achievement is impossible for me

[fast frost]

I ran scream w surge staff

[plucky flax]

It's easier than play a maelstrom without anyone going down.

[fast frost]

Win rate skyrocketed if I had either two vets or two ogryns

[marble crater]

Dying means you can go down 20 times in a mission but still get it, as long as you don't get rescued?

[fast frost]

Ye

But my biggest problem wasn’t wound slots it was timing out if the team got split in a hectic fight

Also the last mission was an environment heavy map with lots of bursters so I was tensed the whole time. Would’ve smashed my head through a wall if I got all the way to the end just to be ledged by a monster burster or mutant

[marble crater]

That would be awful yeah, congrats on getting it

[fast frost]

I almost got the 0 squad downs one by sheer accident. Think I’ll need to make a group for that one tho as I feel telling people their straying from the group will help

[marble crater]

4 surge smite psykers, take turns stunning everything and just walk to extraction

[fast frost]

Personal recommendations is don’t do anything with monster specialists for obvious reasons as well as I began avoiding the blessing one because all my surge/smite gets quite heavily nullified. Absolute fear I had seeing a hunting grounds pack all being blessed sprinting at me

The new condition with the gysers is extremely good for it as they have went really over the top with how many med stims spawn in

[gloomy magnet]

😩 i wont waste 5 hours to get this noble title

[frail harness]

Melee Scrier's Psyker is so much fun

Deimos feels like someone accidentally added an extra zero to the impact value of the H2

[late sapphire]

The last maelstrom i had to do to get mine was monstrous specialists nurgles blessing and it sucked

[gloomy magnet]

i farmed illisi before but now everyone recommends DEIMOS

Hadron may you give me some plasteel

[fast frost]

My last one had an ogryn and zealot complaining about a lack of ammo when the modifier was no ammo drops 😭

[gloomy magnet]

im so poor

[fast frost]

Just get lucky like me I always seem to get godrolls after maybe 5 weapons

[gloomy magnet]

damn fatshark should add a exchanger

[fast frost]

I rolled a godroll surge and maccabian in the same evening and it’s why I started playing psyker again

[gloomy magnet]

😭 im fkin rolling the level4 dumdum recently

[fast frost]

I’m wanting to get a voidstrike tho as I don’t like using surge on anything other than a shriek build

[gloomy magnet]

and i get nothing

[late sapphire]

get a columnus instead

[gloomy magnet]

better to wait for their uh crafting update

[fast frost]

I’ve been trying to buy all the customisation out of the requisitorium just for whatever reason tho so I don’t have the moneys rn

[gloomy magnet]

or kill the hadron, let someone more kind to bless my weapon

[marble crater]

What other builds are there besides shriek? Burn the world

[fast frost]

I have actually really been enjoying the surge staff I never used it since I assumed it was just smite but a little better. I didn’t realise with the right perks if I run around at like 70% and just do a tiny quell between shots that I can one shot all human sized enemy’s but maulers

But voidstrike is my sweet beloved OG voidstrike I used with flurry and transfer was so great. Idk if I’d even make a new one the old one I had was so good to use

Endlessly able to use it because of transfer. Removing like 40 peril a shot as it just rips through hordes. Able to knock non armoured to the floor and had a T4 flak perk. Chefs kiss, I miss it

[marble crater]

What happened to it that you miss it?

[gloomy magnet]

damn i havent wielded staves for a long time

columnus is so addictive

[radiant frigate]

what about it is

[plucky flax]

You steal ammo from vets.

I guess that makes some people happy.

[marble crater]

It makes my gunlugger happy

[gloomy magnet]

Making veteran crazy makes me happy

[fast frost]

Idk I just felt the need to use something else especially since it’s all I ever used.

[marble crater]

Ah, I thought maybe you started over on another account or made a new personality in the past and lost the staff

[rigid sky]

Most people recommend making both of them for different purposes tbf

And DS4 too

Together they are the Holy trinity

(With a few pros playing with their knives in a corner too)

[gloomy magnet]

omg trinity

blue archive

[fluid aspen]

Capped out mobility on Dueling IV makes me run like sanic

Makes me wish another class had Dueling, Vet definitely could use it

[proud mantle]

almost based

melk u were so close to cooking

[rigid sky]

Ogryn.

Call it a toothpick.

[rocky yarrow]

Zealot would be busted

[near wyvern]

Kinetic resonance, faster BB after ult

[true lake]

thoughts?

idk what to really change on it

[rocky yarrow]

Uncanny strike for sure

That's is, if you're gonna be attacking big stuff with it

[true lake]

most likely big stuff yeah

which is why im glad i lucked out on the perks

[rich spindle]

Maniac is pretty much useless on ds

You cant one shot muties anyway

I like carspace a lot because I use it to poke crushers and maulers in the head

[true lake]

is flak armor any good still?

[marble crater]

You can one shot with some buffs

[rich spindle]

Yeah

Lots of stuff has flak on the head

But idk if you one shot them anyway. Havent tested

[true lake]

no idea, mainly trying to build this up to attempt some other builds

my main build is my old slaughterer deimos and the surge voidstrike

[rocky yarrow]

I love my ds

Just slaughterises crushers

[fluid aspen]

I love how you can stab through enemies to hit weakpoints on the other side with Dueling IV

[true lake]

i just really love my deimos, thing makes short work of ragers and maulers

[rich spindle]

The ds is more min maxed deimos

[rocky yarrow]

And now it'll even work on ragers

[rich spindle]

Heavy stab has more dps but light spam has worse horde clear

[true lake]

so basicalyl spam stab

especially at weakpoints

[fluid aspen]

DS if you don't need the force sword specific stuff like deflector or blazing spirit

[true lake]

deflector does come in pretty handy

[rich spindle]

Yeah. Most of the time i dont even bother with light attacks

[true lake]

i dont think i ever used blazing spirit

[rich spindle]

Heavy stab everything in the head

[fluid aspen]

It's good for Warpfire build, an extra source of DoT

[rich spindle]

Lol, its nkt really good

[fluid aspen]

Plus with Purg you are stuck in medium range so Deflector does come in handy

[true lake]

i guess if you are doing fire DoT to everything it doesnt hurt but wouldnt want to waste one of my two modifications on it

[fluid aspen]

Works well on my Illisi

With the spread on kill, it can ignite hordes while meleeing which is a lot of extra damage

[hasty kraken]

Siblings, i need assistance! Which perk should i replace?

[true lake]

groaners and poxwalkers, that is better on bigger guys

[rich spindle]

4 stacks of soulblaze is very little damage, and most trash dies in one hit anyway. The only way to do real damage with it is get to 8 stacks on an elite or monster

[fluid aspen]

Both. Your blessings are great, so get Carapace and Flak

[wet belfry]

groaners, poxwalkers is consistently one of the worst perks in the game.

[true lake]

blessings are perfect literally lol

but he already switched surge

so i would replace groaners

[fluid aspen]

Oh right

[true lake]

that aint gonna do anything those guys are gonna die from one hit anyway

[fluid aspen]

Yeah groaners then, for Carapace or Flack

[hasty kraken]

Carapace takes priority i would imagine over flak

Or is it equal

[true lake]

probably carapace, i almost exclusively use my surge voidstrike for crushers

[hasty kraken]

I have always wondered, since Surge exists, is the extra critical chance perk even worth it?

[fluid aspen]

It's more about clearing hordes faster because you are igniting enemies you aren't directly hitting. And since I'm using Scrier, I'm proccing Blazing a lot

[true lake]

with all the new things you can pick in the skill tree, its a waste of a modification if you dont get it by default

[fluid aspen]

But yeah you can definitely get something else in there instead of Blazing Spirit

[rich spindle]

Have you checked how much damage the soulblaze from wildfire actually does

It does not kill even poxwalkers before you can just melee them to death

[fluid aspen]

[true lake]

which one was wildfire again

[rich spindle]

1.6k is piddly

[fluid aspen]

warpfire

[rich spindle]

Oh i see. Most of that is not from 4 stacks lol

[fluid aspen]

No, it is from getting to higher stacks a lot quicker because they start on 4 stacks

[rich spindle]

Like i said that is only useful on elites or monsters

[fluid aspen]

If all you use is Blazing Spirit and Wildfire yeah

The only way you want to use Warpfire is if you go all in on it

But it's perfectly viable in Damnation

[rich spindle]

? Lol

[radiant frigate]

xd?

creeping flames is regularly my sole source

well, with perilous but that is a lesser contribution

[fluid aspen]

Oh yeah that does work pretty well too, but I only use Venting in like 1 of my builds

[rich spindle]

🤨

[plucky flax]

Why maniac useless on duelling sword?

[fluid aspen]

You can run Carapace + Maniac on Dueling

[rich spindle]

"pretty much". I don't like it because it does not let you one shot muties reliably

[fluid aspen]

Carapace for Crusher and Mauler heads, Maniac for Muties and Ragers

[fluid aspen]

What doesn't?

[rich spindle]

the uh thing we're talking about

[plucky flax]

It bring down the threshold to 1 shot it quite a lot. I only need to tap a mutie 1 or twice with a staff left click then hs it.

Or if I have high peril/warp charges it's 1 shot.

[rich spindle]

most of the time not the case in my experience. and my ds has it 😩

[fluid aspen]

This is what I'm running, 1shots muties with a heavy in the head

Did so on my Warpfire build with Warp Surge, does with my Assail build with Disrupt Destiny

[rich spindle]

just tested it, here's the damage I do with 6 warp charges. Am I missing something?

[radiant frigate]

uncanny stacks? idk

[fluid aspen]

Yeah going into Psykharium it doesn't 1shot for me either

But I've never had trouble with it in actual missions

Disrupt Destiny is definitely doing it after a few stacks

[rich spindle]

Of course

[radiant frigate]

disrupt destiny does it with illisi

[fluid aspen]

Probably something proccing crit frequently then

Actually no

It's Precognition

Dodge the mutie to proc 60% finesse damage then 1shot in the head

[radiant frigate]

precog better than riposte?

[fluid aspen]

You are always going for weakpoints with the Dueling anyways, might as well take 60% consistent damage over a 20% chance to get more damage

It dies help proc Empathic Evasion if you run that, and other crit based talents

[rich spindle]

seems very hard to hit

[fluid aspen]

I'd personally still take Precognition over Riposte just because I prefer the consistency

[fluid aspen]

Mutie head is center mass, on the front. And Dueling sword heavy can ignore bodymass and hit weakpoint if you aim right, stabbing through the enemy. So you can do it from the side or the back as well

[rich spindle]

Yeah

Just tested and i can do it with exactly 6 warp charges and 5 uncanny stacks

[fluid aspen]

Works like a charm with Disrupt Destiny

[meager pulsar]

80% dam on a deimos 4 super important?

dont have one with anywhere decent stats and this is on my limited