#psyker-class

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potent echo
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only for penances

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buuuuuuuuuuuuuut i might keep it

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i hate it though

rigid sky
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EP brain rupture from inside a dome feels great

patent wing
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id play without staff if i could take two blitz

upper sun
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hell yeah

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actually 3 blitzs and no weapons

marble crater
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Thanks, I didn't use BB yet after the update I have to admit KEKW_ogryn

echo turtle
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Warp charges would reduce scriers cool down, seems like a great combo to me

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Unless DD is now amazing

thorn cedar
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it is

potent echo
echo turtle
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I plan to use surge staff, which gets less mileage from DD due to not getting headshots, if I recall

potent echo
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still has the flat damage bonus

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which is something

echo turtle
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And crit chance, but I'm going left for quell speed no matter what

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Warp charges Regen so quick, 100% scriers uptime I think ends up being worth it. I'll play with both and see what really pops

thorn cedar
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imo the best left hand nodes are psykinetics aura, one with the warp, and solidity

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everything else i dont super care for

echo turtle
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Does the +20% crit from scriers remain after the effect ends? Or do you just keep the stacks you accumulate

thorn cedar
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it ends with the ult

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doesnt persist with the stacks

potent echo
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the afterglow only gives damage

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pepebored

echo turtle
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I had a pretty disgusting crit build going before mostly on the right side with the surge, it was very fun.

Generally left with creeping flame was broken AF

Is creeping flame still busted or what?

fluid aspen
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Disrupt Destiny is pretty good with Voidstrike hmm

echo turtle
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@plucky flax what's the deal with creeping flame now

potent echo
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creeping flames was as busted as before

echo turtle
potent echo
echo turtle
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Looks

Creeping flames is just outrageous

potent echo
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i figured out some skull puzzles today, one involves jumping on chandeliers like a jump puzzle

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pretty fun

upper sun
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oh damn where?

fluid aspen
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I'm still torn on Scrier or Venting for my burn build. I really like the stim from Scrier but it's hard to keep up for longer durations

potent echo
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archiboraum sycorax

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or something

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spelling

upper sun
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ah

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ye couldnt find that one

potent echo
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you NEED another person to help you though

upper sun
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ye

potent echo
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they have to lower the platforms etc

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i had one cool guy with me

upper sun
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i tried to do the one in the uhhhhh uhhhhhhhhhh the thing with the two trains that have to be moved

potent echo
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the two zealots that share a brain cell ran into the next room and died KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
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i gave it the two power cells but it didnt work

echo turtle
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Anyone running DT on Linux rn?

upper sun
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why are you having issues?

echo turtle
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Naw, I want to reinstall it but my windows drive is just on a tiny 250gb that's full, I have room on other drives but I configured installs weird so they don't show up on this install

potent echo
echo turtle
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My Linux boot has tons of room

potent echo
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15/2500 whatthefuck_heresy

upper sun
vestal fulcrum
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Too bad there’s no title reward for it

upper sun
echo turtle
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Yeah it was

fluid aspen
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Warp Siphon or Empowered Psionics for a Smite build?

fathom totem
# potent echo

I have a sneaky suspicion this will kill more players then enemy mobs.

upper sun
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ep/venting if you wanna keep on smiting

marble crater
fluid aspen
upper sun
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i still recommend not doing full support psyker

fluid aspen
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Voidstrike is just fine for basically all my damage NiceSoftLock

rigid sky
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Mm, yeah. Shield or smite imo

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If you are smite you want shriek

potent echo
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smite shield i cry

marble crater
fluid aspen
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I've played full support a fair bit and it's fine, just wondering if EP is worth taking EP for now with the new changes

potent echo
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🤮

fluid aspen
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With the flame I'd imagine?

potent echo
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sorry that was reflex

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yea

rigid sky
fluid aspen
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I just wish WS didn't eat all my stacks when I use my ability

rigid sky
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If I was bubble I would take EP though

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I don't rate WS bubble synergy

fluid aspen
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Yeah with EP I get some extra damage on the Smite to offset going with the shield

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And I'm popping shield so often that keeping stacks up would be annoying anyways

rigid sky
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I feel like bubble EP rupture is something everyone should try tbh

fluid aspen
potent echo
rigid sky
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Very safe way to breach and kill gunners

potent echo
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i try to do funny things like trauma stagger into quick swap BR KEKW_ogryn

fluid aspen
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Kinetic Resonance and EP actually makes BB charge reasonable kekw

potent echo
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for mauler groups

rigid sky
fluid aspen
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I do enjoy BB just wish it had better charge time if I don't build my entire skilltree around it

rigid sky
fluid aspen
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The suggestion I've seen thrown around, of basing the charge time on the health of the target, that would be amazing

rigid sky
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I feel like resonance is almost a requirement for it

fluid aspen
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Yeah for sure

rigid sky
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With Resonance, it fills a hole for you

potent echo
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resonance with shield still feels a little off

rigid sky
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With Resonance and EP it's a primary weapon lol

potent echo
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i drop a shield just to cast some BRs

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then i dont have shield sometimes

rigid sky
potent echo
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shield EP BR at least lets you cast some free BRs

fluid aspen
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Ah right Bio-lodestone makes more sense on Smite EP hmm

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Shame Overpowering Souls doesn't work on Specialists, only elites

rigid sky
upper sun
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man everytime i try to use BB i get the best teams

rigid sky
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It's already strong as hecccc

upper sun
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even if groups of elites i only get to BB 2 before my team wipes them out

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i swear some penances are meant to have you kill bots and solo the mission

fluid aspen
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Wish I could take Smite with my burn build but then I'd be nonexistent beyond 10 meters kekw

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I need some proper fireballs on the Purg LMB kekw

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I am so good at this game, I still don't have this fucking Penance

potent echo
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i want a machine gun void staff

fluid aspen
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Beam NODDERS

long wharf
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That's so easy to get. It used to be 3 elites

dapper grotto
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3 elites was fun. did it with 3 crushers

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dont ask why

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it was an accident

golden kite
long wharf
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When I got it, it was a crusher and two ragers

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Mine was on purpose, I saw the group and charged them

dapper grotto
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anyways we have funny whacking sticks

upper sun
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa why did they rearrange the stats for all weapons

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i hate this so much

rigid sky
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I did the Commsplex trick

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When the 3 shitgunners or gunners show up at the entrance door

marble crater
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Done with stealth smoke vet penances whatthefuck_heresy smoke grenades feel so meh

fresh reef
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Smokes are good but like, the other options are just so, so much better

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If vet didn't have grenade regen you would literally never ever take smokes

near wyvern
plucky flax
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You just vape it.

upper sun
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and demo team

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and double nades one

marble crater
upper sun
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oh nah they mostly just work for lowering ranged enemy accuracy i think

plucky flax
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I take grenade regen and extra nade to spam more vape.

upper sun
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hell yeah

late sapphire
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WS and EP both suck shit sorry guys

upper sun
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nuh uhhhhhhhhh

late sapphire
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If i can't one shot head shot crushers with my funny pokey stick on damnation i'm not taking it

marble crater
late sapphire
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dueling sword of the best variation

upper sun
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🤔 talking to the wrong guy here i bricked many and im not gonna bother with more until they change the crafting system

late sapphire
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i got one with a divine stat line, near-perfect perks&blessings

upper sun
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ds4 right?

late sapphire
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and it just goes through crushers and maulers like they don't even exist, usually 2-3shots but with scriers gaze and dd stacks one shots

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mk4 has the poke-poke heavies you gotta aim em properly but they fuck

upper sun
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i havent tried DD much but i feel like at anything lower than high inten auric the 4 sec version is kinda ass

radiant frigate
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just tried DD with perfectionist

late sapphire
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10s 3 stacks on weakspot kill

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pretty ok

radiant frigate
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shot a crusher with void and went "huh?" when it fell over from full health

upper sun
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mk2 has h1 as poke and h2 as a stupid ass slice but you can reset combo with the alt attack

radiant frigate
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what does mk 2 do

late sapphire
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alt combo is ok for rend stacks but not that good dps

upper sun
late sapphire
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the strike is a crutch stab

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for noobs who cant aim

upper sun
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and no goofy ass mobility/heavies like mk5

late sapphire
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particularly now that shields are fixed

radiant frigate
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anyone else just block people if they're trashtalking teammates in chat

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or is that just me

upper sun
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ye i do

late sapphire
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trashtalk back harder

upper sun
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nah its a coop game i dont see the point

radiant frigate
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talk shit with your friends in DMs

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idc

upper sun
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not many grievers in EU

radiant frigate
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but we do not need that negativity in a public chat

late sapphire
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mark 4 dueling mouth

upper sun
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maybe french people on vc but they dont speak english so it just sounds like cute squeeking

late sapphire
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nah it's a part of the fun of multiplayer games

radiant frigate
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disagree

upper sun
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like i said before

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flaming your own team is like shitting your own pants because you were angry at your ass

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if i could trash talk the enemies however i would get banned very quickly

late sapphire
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i'll tell you what it is

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genestealer infiltrators

upper sun
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🤔

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every game should have a 1% to enable friendly fire

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hell yeah

marble crater
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But also because I don't want to

upper sun
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is this not a thing anymore?

marble crater
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I think it is, but I don't have one Sitgryn

upper sun
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imagine paying like 80 dollars just to call someone a noob

marble crater
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Not sure it's even compatible with my 3rd party controller

upper sun
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A 3RD PARTY CONTROLLER???

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IM CALLING THE MICROSOFT POLICE RN

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say your prayers

marble crater
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It's a good one though and officially licensed chadgryn

late sapphire
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Anyways, if you think dt trashtalk is bad you should experience vermintides elfhammer torpedo and the dwarf hunting javelin

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One sentence too many about the elf going horizontal and losing the books and your behind suddenly resembles a porcupine more than anything

upper sun
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND brick

rigid sky
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Seems usable

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Worst part is charge rate actually

upper sun
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i have 7 ones better than this

rigid sky
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Might be prebricked

upper sun
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but i have been chasing the godroll surge dragon for years

plucky flax
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What perks you want?

upper sun
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flak elite

plucky flax
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Why so? Maniac let you 2 shots dreg rager.

upper sun
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flak4 elite 3 also acceptable

rigid sky
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I have a 380 one :)

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Can't remember what perks

plucky flax
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Don't think flak elite will let you 1 shot dreg gunner?

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Maybe flak gunner.

upper sun
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ye

plucky flax
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(No crit)

rigid sky
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And it's my least favourite staff lmao

upper sun
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unironically even with flak4 elite4 it depends on the staff

rigid sky
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With my best roll

upper sun
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some ones can do it with no crit some cant even with the right perks and high damage

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weird ass staff smh

plucky flax
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Flak gunner ye?

upper sun
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yeah

plucky flax
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I'll test mine.

fluid aspen
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I feel slightly out of place here kekw

upper sun
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i have a mil saved up once they change the crafting i intend to spend everything i own on surges

plucky flax
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Surge most comfy staff.

rigid sky
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Commit anyway

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And buy another 100 shit ones

upper sun
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hell yeah

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wait lemme see which one i use currently

late sapphire
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i've been collecting blessings knowing fully well it'll be worthless the moment the crafting update rolls out...

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... in about two years

upper sun
late sapphire
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while rolling surge staffs i ended up getting a godroll columnus instead so i'm a gun psyker until further notice...

plucky flax
late sapphire
upper sun
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ye i found the same thing

late sapphire
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looks like youre at 2/5 stacks

upper sun
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to reliably do it you need 6warp and 3 perfect timing

plucky flax
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Okay I can try 5 perfect timing no peril 6 warp charges.

plucky flax
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Yeah 5 perfect timing 6 warp charges no peril I can 1 shot no crit.

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I'm changing it back to maniac.

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Doesn't feel as good. Maniac is good against all specials.

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And super easy dreg rager 2 shots no crit.

upper sun
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eh idk ragers arent an issue for me as a psyker

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id rather have a bit more overall damage thats all

manic river
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Just crafted this

plucky flax
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Top special kills ez

manic river
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What perks I can put on this

plucky flax
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Flak + maniac/unyielding.

late sapphire
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Not even 1mil damage

plucky flax
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I like maniac for brrrrrrrr

manic river
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Maniac

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hmm

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what about crit chance

plucky flax
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You crit a lot already and with gun you should use tru aim

manic river
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Ah I see

plucky flax
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Which gives free guaranted crit.

manic river
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So

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Maniac

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I'll get Dum Dum IV someday

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someday..

plucky flax
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It's only a 2.5% power increase.

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So no sweat there. 😄

plucky flax
late sapphire
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barely ok

manic river
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Hmmmm

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But it's a fine gun for psyker ?

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So

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what meles go well with Columnus?

late sapphire
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columnus is sexy but its trash vs carapace

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maccabian 4 dueling sword, just like the color black, goes well with every outfit

manic river
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the only mele I have atm xd

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Plasteel farm became so easy now

rich spindle
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Ds and columnus feels so bad when your teams horde clear is sub par

plucky flax
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Use assail to help with horde clear.

late sapphire
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just left click into the horde wdym

rich spindle
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Its very slow still

plucky flax
manic river
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Hmm

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for crit builds

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what weapons go well

plucky flax
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Ez horde clear. whatthefuck_heresy

rich spindle
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Surge and purgatus proc crits the most

manic river
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Solly Psyker

rich spindle
manic river
plucky flax
manic river
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Never used it

late sapphire
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There's only really one thing a sword does, sibling

manic river
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What

rich spindle
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Illisi just has perfectly horizontal attacks that have optimal horde clear

manic river
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Uoh Uoh

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Sounds fun

mighty cipher
manic river
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And which one is the most optimal

mighty cipher
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Elaborate?

manic river
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The basic or the special attack

mighty cipher
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Depends on the situation

manic river
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Hmmmm

late sapphire
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if you have a sec of time you charge

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if not you swing

mighty cipher
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In a purely defensive situation you need to stick to uncharged slashes, but if you have any leeway then charged slashes are devastating

rich spindle
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I was a big special fan but honestly it just takes too long. I use to to instsntly get a couple kills and get my slaughterer stacks up but other than that it seems way better to keep staggering with H1 L1 combos

mighty cipher
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A good offensive spec Illisi can easily kill 5-6 enemies in a single charged slash.

hexed geyser
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The usual gameplay of illisi is charge → heavy repeat unless there's like maulers

late sapphire
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i never checked

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but does the shield stop nades / nets?

mighty cipher
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Yes*

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If the bomb lands on the edge of the dome, and someone is standing too close to the bomb, it’ll spill over into the shield. It should stop nets.

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Same thing with flamers

late sapphire
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does it stop barrel explosions

mighty cipher
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Good question

late sapphire
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might save me from the most dangerous dt hazard

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an idiot teammate shooting the barrel next to you, directly sending you into the local bottomless pit to an instant death

lethal lagoon
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I had like 10+ revives

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Just couldn't clear em lmao

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Assial and d4 definitely wasn't enough

rich spindle
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Losing because of horde clear feels so lame lool

lethal lagoon
mighty cipher
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Good thing you can check your teammates abilities and weaponry before the game starts.

late sapphire
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That sounds like a boring thing to do

patent wing
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imagine needing talent points and more than grey weapons

mighty cipher
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Losing is a lot more boring

late sapphire
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Not enough crowd clear? just leave

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just walk away man

willow hazel
lethal lagoon
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To be clear, this happened once.

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I was literally the strongest horde clear by a mile as d4 assial

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That's not good lmao

mighty cipher
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What where your teammates? Helllbore vets?

willow hazel
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Yeah usually someone should be better, but the mobility compensates for bad hordeclear

marble crater
lethal lagoon
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It was a while ago, vets and zealots I believe.

willow hazel
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and killing two guys per swing with the lights is alright

patent wing
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bru hellbore is kind of best melee ingame xd

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(i am lvl12 vet)

mighty cipher
rigid sky
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It's not exactly a power sword though lmao

patent wing
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prick prick mf

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idk if this is the correct translation

late sapphire
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i love seeing hellbore vets run around poking everything only to instantly get flattened by the first mauler we encounter

rigid sky
mighty cipher
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You’re running a Helbore? Just blow it’s head off with a full charge shot.

manic river
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How do you use Smite properly

mighty cipher
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Step 1: Equip smite
Step 2: ???
Step 3: 701k Damage

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There’s two ways to really build smite, as a backup Incase your team starts shitting the bed, or damage smite since they buffed it.

lethal lagoon
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Smite did plenty of damage before the buff.

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People just dismissed it.

mighty cipher
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People didn’t know how to use it

lethal lagoon
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Too many people run smite with bubble, making it seem like it doesn't do DPS

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My issue with smite has always been it does too much DPS for too little effort

urban dove
upper sun
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i just realized double tap esc to skip dilaogue also works in mission

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i will never hear hadrons voice again

lethal lagoon
urban dove
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This guy

lethal lagoon
urban dove
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☠️

mighty cipher
lethal lagoon
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My favorite secret beta tester skin

upper sun
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i want to replace her coolant with acid

upper sun
lethal lagoon
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Is it.

urban dove
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This mf hammer is shooting lightning

lethal lagoon
urban dove
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Why you got clown pants

manic river
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I'M DEALING NO DAMAGE

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HOW do I use Smite

lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
mighty cipher
# manic river How

Step 1: Enhanced Psionic stack
Step 2: find a crowd
Step 3: Dead
Step 4: Repeat

lethal lagoon
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Also it's for nostalgia reasons.

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You get it or you don't.

urban dove
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I mean sure to be or not to be

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🤣

lethal lagoon
rich spindle
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Im starting to think the elite dam aura is worth it over the cooldown one now... that juicy 2.5% boost

mighty cipher
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Only on BR. And even then it’s kinda sketchy.

manic river
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How do I build this

mighty cipher
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Show the build

manic river
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kek

lethal lagoon
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Ignoredge

rich spindle
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Yes i tested it with the new 200% and the only difference is that poxwalkers will eventually die from smite now :/

lethal lagoon
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I reguarlly got 1k+ horde kills pre buff

manic river
neat hare
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Bruh that build is garbo

manic river
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Wanted to try something defensive but I guess the shield Ain't it

mighty cipher
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Why the FUCK do you have wildfire?

manic river
neat hare
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Go left side

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Ventik shrik

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The one with soulblize

manic river
neat hare
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And take the left one where you picked the smite

manic river
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Guess that didn't work out well

neat hare
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The one with 1 smite jump

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And after those go left side

mighty cipher
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This is actually the worst fucking smite build I’ve ever seen. Dear lord…

neat hare
rich spindle
mighty cipher
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I RUN WILDFIRE

rich spindle
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My god...

manic river
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Sometimes I compare both Psyker and Zealot channels to see which one is the most obnoxious to engage

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I should apologize Zealots

mighty cipher
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DON’T COME AT ME
WITH THAT
BULL

thin finch
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New kid show their build

Gets bullied

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Poor chap

neat hare
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Brudah

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Search on yt best smite psyker build

rich spindle
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Zealot channel just talks about helldivers most of the time

neat hare
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You'll find everything there

mighty cipher
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It’s not really his fault. Psyker is weird to build sometimes and smite is 100% the worst offender.

quick python
rich spindle
thin finch
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I've seen more zealot buld being talked here than in #zealot-class

lethal lagoon
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Smite bubble Dentge

neat hare
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Better than 10% you can't rely on your team to hit them in my opinion

rich spindle
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I dont think so

neat hare
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So 1 more jump it's good

mighty cipher
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Smite bubble isn’t the issue. I got my 701k with smite bubble.

thin finch
lethal lagoon
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Smite bubble Dentge

neat hare
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My opinion but i"m not a psyker main i just tried it couple days ago the smite builds on damnation and kinda slaps

rich spindle
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Someone has posted the +1 jump aoe as seen from above before. At most youre getting a few more poxwalkers and maybe 1 elite

neat hare
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But they said they nerfed it so idk about auric with smite never tried it

lethal lagoon
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In a normal game, +1 jump isn't going to be a big deal, but if you are using EP smite, you might as well grab it

upper sun
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nah

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redo the test with ep after the changes

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you never know

mighty cipher
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It spreads faster and hits more targets. It’s free money on a damage mite build.

lethal lagoon
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I have basically unlimited points when I run an ep smite build, it's very untaxing.

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So it's like a why not

upper sun
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WS needs to go on a diet fr fr

plucky flax
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Just spam smite and win.

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Veri ez and chill.

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Bonus point for using bubble with it. whatthefuck_heresy

rich spindle
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Hell no 😭

radiant frigate
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all psyker penances done

rich spindle
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I hate smite spammers bro

radiant frigate
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sanctioned once again

neat hare
mighty cipher
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Fucken bubble wrap build. Childproofing the mission.

upper sun
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3 smite psykers one hammer zealot for the best team comp

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debate me

rich spindle
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Let the enemies group up please

mighty cipher
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Remember the good ole days of the infinite smite?

rich spindle
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Sometimes ill get a smite spammer that spends 40 seconds locking up like 2 dogs instead of just killing them 😩

manic river
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I don't get it

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does damage scale over time

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or it's the effect of EP

neat hare
upper sun
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thats expected thats why you have 3 smite psykers

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so one can act as bait

neat hare
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3*

marble crater
lethal lagoon
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So yes and no.

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Creeping Flames(shriek) increases the length of a EP smite cast

manic river
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I see

lethal lagoon
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Smite will often last tick elites, procing PC

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And then pepe_boom

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PC = perilous combustion

manic river
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I see

marble crater
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Sometimes I'm a perilous combustion

marble crater
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Krak grenade one is going to take a while

radiant frigate
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most likely

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wonder if it counts, uh, bruisers

marble crater
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I think I will test if it counts bruisers now, throw all my kraks not at maulers or bulwarks and crushers and see what happens.
I will definitely need some advice on the marksman focus and weapon specialist penances Sitgryn

cinder moon
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i have only one vet build using focus and none using weapon specialist

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because vet keystones are too expensive

manic river
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it's

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braindead

lethal lagoon
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Those crits and weakspots....

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Brings a tear to my eye

topaz steppe
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thoughts on dueling sword with gunker build?

marble crater
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I prefer illisi for better horde clear, dueling sword was too risky for my liking

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On Gunker that is

lethal lagoon
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d4 columbus is pepejustright

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d4 revolver?

willow hazel
#

The d4 is great on any psyker build

cinder moon
#

bring ds2 or 5 for horde clear if you want a dueling sword on gunker

#

ds4 can do it but isn't ideal

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ds2 can reset its h1 poke with alt

mental grail
#

I might hop on for my first game post update

#

How is dd gunker with scryers gaze?

cinder moon
#

very good

mental grail
#

I heard some shit about dd getting nerfed apparently

cinder moon
#

there's a visual bug with the stack icon not working right on occasion

mental grail
#

oh, is it showing less stacks then you have or something?

cinder moon
#

they either don't appear or the stack "expires" in under 2s

plucky flax
#

Veri ez to keep stacks now.

rich spindle
#

Dd sg feels buffed overall

thorn cedar
#

Not 'feels', very much 'is'

rich spindle
#

Wow.

compact cargo
#

the ogryn nerf was excesive

#

I have to dodge now!

plucky flax
#

Yes it sucks against shooters pack.

#

RIP stacks.

jovial juniper
#

He's not sugarcoating

patent wing
#

as a crit/perfect strike zealot i refuse to dodge and just spam lights into all until the crushers come

jovial juniper
upper sun
#

after seeing the dev stream i can confidently say i play better than the devs and so does 80% of the player base

fresh reef
#

Can you imagine how fast the devs would get folded if they made the rejects less overpowered?

mental rock
#

ive never run into a dev playing auric damn. I have playing malice tho KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
#

eh id play like shit too of thousands of people were watching hell i play like shit when i play with friends

wet belfry
#

Which dev was it

upper sun
#

watch the vod and judge for yourself

fresh reef
#

OH NAKED MAN HOW???

#

Gotta be one of my favorite Fatshark quotes

untold niche
#

wat you guys version? for me
most fun - oggie. most engaging - zealot. Best performing - psyker

fresh reef
#

Psyker, all of the above for me

untold niche
#

dammmn

upper sun
#

"so used to speeding up the time running around the hub as dev"

#

damn

rigid sky
#

Psyker for first two, but I am a better Zealot

upper sun
#

and i have to walk to the mission terminal like a dumbass

wet belfry
#

Best performing will always be zealot

untold niche
#

mr wilmer aren't you vet main

wet belfry
#

no

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Im multiple classes

upper sun
rigid sky
#

Zealot is the clutch class

cosmic sigil
#

A dev is a dev not a play tester

wet belfry
#

i am over 400 levels in every class expect ogryn

cosmic sigil
#

Nor a designer as well

rigid sky
#

"I didn't hear no bell" - the class

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Psyker just feels so good though

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But you make a mistake and you are fucking dead

upper sun
#

ye worst part is going from zealot to psyker or vise versa

plucky flax
#

My fav class is pre patch 13 sustain fire bolter vet. whatthefuck_heresy

cosmic sigil
untold niche
# rigid sky Zealot is the clutch class

i think cause i don't like to clutch thats why i never bothered
Doesn't feel fun to back pedal for 5 minutes to the med station then slowly make your way back to teammate

untold niche
upper sun
#

huh what hit me was that a bucket head oh no i ate a crusher overhead im a zealot

rigid sky
#

And try to die in glory

plucky flax
#

Bring back instant reload bolter. madge

rigid sky
#

And sometimes instead of die I pull off a triple revive

untold niche
rigid sky
#

360praisetheemperor

upper sun
rigid sky
#

Tbh who mains anyway

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Apart from my girlfriend not wanting to swap off ogryn ever

upper sun
#

id play anything other than vet

untold niche
#

ogryn get to literally uppercut

#

can fling corpses

#

with gg

plucky flax
#

Vet needs more skill tree adjustment.

cosmic sigil
rigid sky
#

I got her to try out the mk XIX shovel the other day

plucky flax
#

P sword and P gun not OP enough.

rigid sky
#

She likes it a lot apparently

plucky flax
untold niche
#

brain dead but funny

rigid sky
untold niche
#

yeah need to learn timing

upper sun
#

"uhhh actually your pgun only has 70% damage it doesnt meet any breakpoints"

cosmic sigil
rigid sky
#

Took a lot to get her off her bull butcher lmao

untold niche
#

i think club mk3 good for lights tho

upper sun
#

my brother in the emperor even a pgun with 50% damage will out perform most of my shit

cosmic sigil
#

Necro mommies please

untold niche
#

from waht i recall

rigid sky
untold niche
#

i would play

rigid sky
#

(I also do all of her inventory and talent building game)

untold niche
#

you deal only moderate damage

#

but many buffs to team

untold niche
#

they also brainwash me into try to stop remembering BT as OP

#

every time

rigid sky
#

(She just likes krumpin eretics)

upper sun
#

eh i dont gw would allow necrons to be playable under the inquisition

rigid sky
#

BT?

untold niche
#

blaze trauma

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mr agent favourite

rigid sky
#

Oh lmao

upper sun
#

skitarii is still the best option for the 5th class

untold niche
#

keep say BT need buff as joke

rigid sky
#

Selfish war guy

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Yeah

untold niche
#

but mr agent my favourite

upper sun
#

they cant do sisters because that would be too op and flying would break the game

wet belfry
upper sun
#

they cant do sisters repentia because those are pretty much nude zealots

plucky flax
#

Blaze trauma wot?

#

Worst weapon ever.

untold niche
wet belfry
#

Lacerate is good

upper sun
#

id love some non meta zealot builds

plucky flax
#

Yeah like blaze trauma bubble.

upper sun
#

yeah its ok knife has tons of good blessings depending on what you wanna do

plucky flax
wet belfry
#

Flamer is the best ranged weapon on zealot

upper sun
#

bubble only belongs on purge DEBATE ME

wet belfry
#

Because who knows guns if you have throwing knives

untold niche
upper sun
untold niche
upper sun
#

one thing i disagree with pygex on is "flame illisi"

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that shit is ass idk how its ever a thing

#

also executor being garbage/D tier

untold niche
#

wait didn't you run that build
or was it someone else

upper sun
#

i have it i just never use it

rigid sky
upper sun
rigid sky
#

Also I saw pygex explode in the only game I ever played with him

upper sun
#

pygex bros.... its over

rigid sky
#

(But tbf he was playing like a biotic god apart from that lmao)

untold niche
# wet belfry use uncanny

can you tell me what to pick (beyond cara ofc)
if i wnt a flamer that kill crusher (also i can't rmb does flamer go thru bulwark?)

rigid sky
#

(Made me feel better about occasionally overwarping too)

untold niche
#

agent too

rigid sky
#

He was doing a Shriek revolver build iirc

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So not sure how he exploded lmao

#

Maybe it wasn't shriek

upper sun
rigid sky
#

I presume he had to have been running gaze

untold niche
#

i watch pygex play void bubble
very different from how i play void but positioning good

imo other than clutch thats the skill ceiling on dt already, just better positioning

Theorycrafting can be done by other peepo

upper sun
#

happens most when you're already at 100 peril press Q then the game refuses to switch to melee

wet belfry
#

give me 7 minutes

upper sun
#

because lol bad netcode

rigid sky
untold niche
#

clad quick question

#

flamer go thru bulwark?

upper sun
#

prolly not

untold niche
#

maybe in new patch will?

#

no more force field

#

xD

upper sun
#

🤔

untold niche
#

shoot aboe their head

#

ouchies

upper sun
#

🤔

#

brb

untold niche
#

test and lmk

#

thank

#

love u

upper sun
#

me as the dog ^

untold niche
#

the dog looks very receptive of the monki's love

upper sun
#

around the left side more so

untold niche
#

so is possible?

untold niche
#

noice

#

clad did u try shoot above their head

untold niche
#

try above head!!!!

upper sun
#

above head also works for purge lemme check flamer

#

tbh hell flamer works through shield

untold niche
#

HAHAHAHA

#

WTF

#

LEGIT?

#

or so long slightly left

#

i see a +unyielding +cara uncanny (???) flamer being made by me now
Waiting for mr wilmer

upper sun
#

eh idk flamer still does fuck all to crushers

untold niche
#

idk he say uncanny
after he give full wepaon i will go test in psk

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havent open DT

#

since 9 april

#

the last actual convo i remember was just me saying my zealot suk then you ask me for scoreboard then i didn't reply xD

upper sun
#

ye uncanny would help

#

okie game crashed

#

no more testing

wet belfry
#

Its combat knife gaming.

untold niche
#

what inspiring barrage for? tanking zombie hit while u flame crusher?

wet belfry
#

Helpful to tank shooters or just genreal horde enemies hitting you.

untold niche
#

i thought blaze away no work, or is it the other blessing

wet belfry
#

It works.

jovial juniper
#

Overpressure

untold niche
#

they fix it recently? i jsut remember one of blessing

#

ya

#

thanks

jovial juniper
#

It still doesn't work

untold niche
#

5% only
chastise garuntee crit already i tot

wet belfry
#

its not running chatise

untold niche
#

oh, but 5% very little

#

still

untold niche
#

sorry i just want to know why you take it

wet belfry
#

unnessecary

untold niche
#

not "questioning" you

wet belfry
#

stealth is best used for dps.

#

3 sec is enough for dps

#

its also enough for revives

untold niche
#

like why no cara instead of the 5% crit

#

not*

wet belfry
#

on the knife?

untold niche
#

no flamer

wet belfry
#

well critting on flamer procs double stacks.

#

so its more versatile then carapace.

untold niche
#

wait

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like once you crit

#

current burn damage

wet belfry
#

even then killing carapace with flamer isnt guaranteed without dash.

untold niche
#

x2?

wet belfry
#

the flamer creates burn stacks over a certain interval.

#

if a crit happens during that interval it doubles the stacks.

#

So 2 burn stacks instead of 1

untold niche
#

oh, how mcuh the crit string, and hence how much more stacks in total, and how does that translate to damage (if you know)

wet belfry
#

what?

untold niche
#

sorry let me type in proper english

#

I assume when you crit with flamer, you have a crit string in the sense that you apply 2 burn stacks X times
So how many burn stacks in total does this add up to.
And of course, how much is the damage increase from having say just 1 crit.

wet belfry
#

well 2 burn stacks.

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i dont know how burn damage scales

#

but its expotenial growth like all DOT damage

untold niche
wet belfry
#

normaly yes

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and crits do 2

untold niche
#

so when you crit, you only crit for 1 point of ammo?

wet belfry
#

yes

untold niche
#

i see

#

oh ya, no take this?

wet belfry
#

it can be used.

#

More consistent momentum stacks.

cosmic sigil
untold niche
#

yeah i think i will swap until death and holy rev to that and something else

cosmic sigil
#

Yeeeeees

untold niche
#

prob annoint

wet belfry
#

keep in mind throwing knives are affected by blessings

#

so uncanny can apply on it

#

it can kill crushers

untold niche
#

two tap right?

#

uncanny tknife

wet belfry
#

with max stacks ye im pretty sure it can

untold niche
#

ik one tap possible

#

but need chastise

wet belfry
#

usually that doesnt happen ingame since stacks need to be built up.

untold niche
#

then how you deal with crusher, if strictly go by your build

wet belfry
#

Combat knife melee, with occasional throwing knives

#

Abuse the double stealth mechanic aswell

untold niche
#

how fast kill crusher with c knife?
Double stealth?

wet belfry
#

If you time it correctly stealth can be used twice

untold niche
#

shiiit i didn't know :O

wet belfry
#

Stealth while charging the heavy attack.

untold niche
#

do you have like 10 second takedown clip on crusher with cknife
(tbh msot important question is can you solo 6x crusher)

wet belfry
#

Let it go quickly as you enter stealth

#

Knife can defintely kill a crusher in under 10s

untold niche
#

sorry very exciting

wet belfry
#

No you just get to do stealth attack two times

#

It still has a cooldown

untold niche
#

Ohhh

#

then wilmer

#

can you solo 6 crusher with that build

wet belfry
#

Yes

untold niche
#

how

wet belfry
#

Dodge, fight

untold niche
#

:(

#

is cknife takedown on crusher faster than caxe

wet belfry
#

Probably

untold niche
#

high confidence?

wet belfry
#

ye pretty high confidence with uncanny.

#

espically if you actually use throwing knives while fighting them

untold niche
#

wait let me ping someone who use both

untold niche
wet belfry
#

I think you also misunderstand one thing about the entire build

#

The build doesnt need to "fight" enemies

#

it can literary at any point just run away.

spice veldt
#

definitely faster

untold niche
wet belfry
#

Thats the most busted thing about zealot.

untold niche
spice veldt
#

with knife you have the potential of 2/3 shotting crushers semi-consistently

wet belfry
#

Zealot always has more options to approaching situations then other classes.

untold niche
#

run not fun to me :(

#

i mean if i kill stuff on the way sure but pure running i feel kinda dumb dumb

radiant frigate
#

does knife require a very specific set of blessings

spice veldt
#

yeah I dislike kiting as well since it's boring

#

knife is whatevs to be frank

wet belfry
untold niche
#

but htank for build and advice mr wilmer

#

very appreciated

spice veldt
#

on zealot your crit chance is cranked the fuck up

#

so uncanny is whatevs and whatnot

#

run whatever and also don't post what you're running on knife onto discord and you'll be gucci

wet belfry
#

Well uncanny benefits more then just the knife

#

It can make the flamer kill crushers, it makes the throwing knives much better.

spice veldt
#

I always run chastise so I don't care for uncanny

untold niche
#

his build no chastise
I actually like stealth more because ez revive and objective

#

can do unfun parts of the game without stress

spice veldt
#

at least twbs fills that role for me for now

untold niche
spice veldt
#

cuz along with the toughness Dr while doing interrogators, it's good enough most times

#

nah twbs prevents that

#

unless they fixed it recently in this patch

untold niche
#

wat about revive?

spice veldt
#

you'll still get guardbroken

untold niche
#

hmmm

wet belfry
#

revive is tied to uninterruptible rather then stuns.

#

TWBS only defends against stuns

untold niche
#

oh, (uniterruptible) is same mechanic for when you no more stam to block then you block then the weird dingly thing right

#

becaise twbs doesn't help for that right

#

idk whats the actual term but i assume you know what im talking about

wet belfry
#

Im not actually sure, but it can be tested

#

The entire terminology in the game is dumb is partially the reason.

untold niche
#

guardbroken?
basically when you are out of stamina, but still attempt to block

#

then you are animation locked

#

into trying to "recover"

#

your hands flail around for a bit

spice veldt
#

uninterruptible is pertaining to your attacks not getting interrupted iirc

#

whatever punishment gives

wet belfry
#

Ogryn technically is uninterruptible but yet has a talent called no stopping me to make them more uninterruptible while charging heavy attacks.

#

Like the game has some serious dumb moments in terminology

spice veldt
#

no glossary moment

untold niche
#

wait then ya i have question
wilmer say twbs no help against uninterruptible
but when you do attack with twbs, enemy attack you, you don't get interrupted.
Or uninterruptible is not the general meaning of interrupt

spice veldt
#

inconsistent usage moment

untold niche
#

oh ya then the ogryn thing is same as what i said

upper sun
#

huh

thorn cedar
#

im pretty sure Punishment's max stacks and TWBS are the same effect

upper sun
thorn cedar
#

youre just unlikely to have max stacks and also maintain the stacks through a revive

untold niche
# wet belfry TWBS only defends against stuns

Basically according to wilmer, TWBS doesn't give you "uninterruptible"
but we know that your attacks can't be interrupted by enemy attacks while you have TWBS
which is what msot people would call uninterruptible

thorn cedar
#

it really is only relevant when you're dick-deep in horde fodder

spice veldt
#

yeah stun immunity seems to be a superset of uninterruptible

untold niche
#

not subset? anyway
willmer how come zealot chat disagree with you tho
what main thing you guys disagree on, im curious

spice veldt
#

superset = uninterruptible + some more functionality

wet belfry
#

Well you can probably post the build later and ask what they think about it

untold niche
#

oh in terms of functionality. i though tu mean in terms of "if i have it"

wet belfry
#

and you will generally find that what they think will be completely differnent.

#

Theres little consensus.

#

Im also fairly out and about in the community as a whole

untold niche
#

ok but for me, my "sin" is i atm won't run 2nd life if im not on wounds as zealot

#

i feel kind of waste point esp if you don't need duelist

thorn cedar
#

id call that reasonable

#

unless youre actually using it in your gameplay then why bother

lunar hollow
#

when ur connection is as shitty as mine its huge

thorn cedar
#

i probably die an average of once every five games, so having an ability that prevents that one occasion is like, nah

wet belfry
#

until death is great.

untold niche
thorn cedar
#

i still take it when i want to play like an insane person, but as only a death defy, dont bother

wet belfry
#

you anyways go through great tax talents to get it such as 5% moment speed, 15 toughness.

#

Its not a huge cost to the build.

untold niche
#

i know everytime i post builld peepo on zealot chat say why no 2nd life, best zealot ability
Like it does save me but I rather have more fun while alive you know

#

hold on lemme show u my current build for zealot

thorn cedar
#

i only have one build with it and it's a full martyrdom build

#

and ima be real it still doesnt trigger all that often

spice veldt
#

can't believe the builds I like on zealot are crit builds

untold niche
#

caxe + kant shotgun
but after waht you say about flamer i will try run it with flamer, then change off from fire nade to tknife, idk just try

wet belfry
#

throwing knives are the absolute best blitz ability in the game.

thorn cedar
#

absolutely

wet belfry
#

they are better then the majority of ranged weapons in the game

untold niche
#

thats quite expensive

wet belfry
#

No reload, instant kills most enemies in the game while having no pullout time, regenrates pretty easyily as ammo.

untold niche
wet belfry
#

Comparable to a revolver with less cleave, armor penetration.

untold niche
upper sun
untold niche
#

YOU MEAN TKNIFE HAS CLEAVE?

wet belfry
#

it has a cleave of 2.

#

so it can kill 1 enemy before reaching its target.

untold niche
#

isn't volvo cleave > 2

#

or i dumb dumb

thorn cedar
#

rip 20 stack momentum

wet belfry
#

i dont remember what it is.

untold niche
thorn cedar
#

i think tknife is 1.5 or 2 cleave

little rapids
#

I wanna try the new knife skin but only play psyker, how do I make knife psyker work siblings?

thorn cedar
#

it is boosted by whatever weapon you are holding anyway

untold niche
#

so sorry

thorn cedar
#

so you can hit 6 cleave with wrath on your evis

#

as an example

upper sun
thorn cedar
#

you havent lived if youve never killed two specials with a single throwing knife

untold niche
#

it*

untold niche
#

and u mean crusher too right xD

#

not bolter

upper sun
wet belfry
#

thats why uncanny is so good.

upper sun
#

yeah

#

im tired

untold niche
#

willmer

#

ur build

#

tknife can 1 hit reaper?

wet belfry
#

no

untold niche
#

what about stealthed cknife?

#

combat knife

wet belfry
#

Doubt it but have to test

#

i never really writed anything down for the entire build

untold niche
#

cause iknow i can 1 hit reaper from the front with stealthed caxe

wet belfry
#

properly testing breakpoints is very time consuming.

untold niche
#

ahh was just curious, tot u knew
anyway i have to grind for knife now kek

#

knife

#

need super good roll?

#

i.e.
80 80, 75 75 60

#

stat wise

wet belfry
#

finesse, damage, first target are all stats that have major impacts on weapons

#

Penetration aswell is important but lessended slightly by having uncanny.

#

mobility is whatever when its over 50.

untold niche
#

i know, but breakpoints wise how much do ineed for best brekapoint for cknife, at least for your build

#

because i know certain builds on vet you need actual god roll caxes

wet belfry
#

no idea because yet again i never really tested

#

Im a rich boy i already have 380 weapons.

untold niche
#

fak u

#

oh ya josho what do you personally feel about wilmer's build

#

idk if he still lurking anot

wet belfry
#

Also the testing on veteran was done with max stats weapons

#

The only real breakpoint testing there was compared in perks, talents.

#

how would x talent, perk work together to generate a breakpoint?

#

Doing that with weapon stats would already have been to time consuming for an already time consuming task.

#

thats why i think the entire testing process is flawed.

#

Its better to use a mathmetical formula for damage in the game rather then actually test things in the psykanium

untold niche
#

personally for me weapon stat testing more important than the blessing+perk roll

#

wait

#

hmmmmmmm

#

blessing+perk easier to roll, but does stat scale harder?
i.e. 75->80% damage vs perk roll T3 to T4 (which is also 15% -> 20%)

wet belfry
untold niche
#

should just ask that guy to make the code open source then you can fork it

#

have u tried asking him? o.o

wet belfry
#

Regardless i doubt i could use the code

#

Id have to learn a new language

#

Its useless to have the code if i dont understand it.

untold niche
#

i assume he do it using JS?

upper sun
#

notice how the website is set to damnation by default and meatgrinder is malice by default

untold niche
#

ya?

upper sun
#

devs really dont want us to play damnation 😭

wet belfry
untold niche
wet belfry
#

Rust - wasmtime (crates.io)
JS/TS - @bytecodealliance/jco (npm)
Python - wasmtime (PyPI)

untold niche
#

i saw level 200+ psyker play in malice

untold niche
#

then he tell me that the only difficulty surge work

upper sun
#

man hell

manic river
#

Who sees fun on Malice

upper sun
#

if it wasnt for the amount of plasteel needed to deal with the garbage crafting system id play more heresy

manic river
#

Killing mass amount of things

upper sun
#

everything is so buttery smooth my garbage ass t3 perk 73% damage weapons love heresy

manic river
#

You don't grind enough

upper sun
untold niche
upper sun
wet belfry
#

Im a self taught coder.

#

Not actually a coder that works with it.

manic river