psyker-class

[supple dock]

Yeah I was pretty vigilint about it too

kinetic flayer was really nice for it

[rigid sky]

I always felt old BB was underrated

[supple dock]

It was frustrating because it didn't 1-shot specific enemies

then they gave it like 50 more damage and bam oneshot

[rigid sky]

Now I hate using it without Resonance and EP lol

With both it feels like a plasma gun imo

[supple dock]

resonance and ep sounds hilarious

[zinc phoenix]

It wasn’t

[supple dock]

without that 50 damage buff it was super mid

edging on bad

[zinc phoenix]

It didn’t kill anything you needed killed and warp charges were super annoying to deal with.

Especially back during launch

[supple dock]

yeaaah

You had to use this slow clunky thing to get massive boosts that weren't really negotiable

so you'd be using 2s at a time to bb trash mobs

[rigid sky]

Killed snipers, gunners just fine

And you could tap bulwarks with it so they'd drop their shield

I mean using on trash mobs was a bit gratuitous lol

[supple dock]

I believe it didn't kill trappers, it definitely didn't kill bursters

[rigid sky]

Think it worked on trappers at least

But not bursters

[supple dock]

I think it didn't work on dogs?

[wind spruce]

Definitely worked on trappers

Flamers you needed buffs

(Warp battery)

[rigid sky]

Dogs needed 2

[supple dock]

and the insult is that there's a penance for BB'ing a dog mid jump

[rigid sky]

Or, one + a bullet

It was enough to prime them to be killed at least

[wind spruce]

Lower tier

[rigid sky]

Which for the jumpy fuckers they are isn't the worst

[supple dock]

yee, of course. worked on heresy and lower, but it still made me annoyed lmao

[rigid sky]

Psyker is definitely a lot better now anyway

[supple dock]

trueee

[rigid sky]

For everything besides penances

[supple dock]

SO much toughness regen if you're on your game

but you fuck up once and you just explode lmao

[rigid sky]

And gun psyker is a real thing now and not just a weird semiaccident

[supple dock]

gun psyker is actually insane

but my principle is that why would i play a space wizard to use guns ]:<

[rigid sky]

It's basically its own class

[supple dock]

now if they added like warp bullets or some cool shit i'd be interested

[rigid sky]

Scrier's Gaze is kinda that I guess

I mean the extra spice has to be coming from somewhere

You should get some glowy warp fuckery shit with it imo

[supple dock]

yeah that would be cool

[rigid sky]

Just for the class fantasy

The voice lines alone already do so much though

[supple dock]

male seer's voice lines are so good

[rigid sky]

"You're all going to die! Isn't that nice!"

[supple dock]

Recently heard a line between ogryn and psyker

Ogryn goes "how is ship in space, and in warp?"

and he goes "oh, sweet brute" or something

[rigid sky]

Male loner: "I've been thinking..."

Bodyguard ogryn: thinking is good! You should do more of it!

Loner: ...as I was saying, I've been thinking-"

"See! Good job listening to me!"

"...I've lost my train of thought"

[supple dock]

lmao

that's so good

foreshortened lifespans is a great one too

[vestal fulcrum]

The Seer and The Bully have wonderful chemistry going on between one another

[rigid sky]

I played with my girlfriend's ogryn and we had that exchange happen in three consecutive missions yesterday

[vestal fulcrum]

Both male and female version of Seer, that is

[rigid sky]

The foreshortened lifespans quote actually got me killed the first time

Because I was giggling too much

[supple dock]

lmao

[rigid sky]

I just love how much of a little bitch male loner is

Little bitch, with a big heart

[lapis violet]

YES

YES LET'S GO

now, to celebrate, i shall roll for surge

i bought 18 voidstrikes and only 1 was above 350

i shall cry now, in a corner

[marble crater]

Congratz Sibling

[lapis violet]

this was done with this tree

"why no this?" "why no that?" trust the process

[marble crater]

If it works, it works

[lapis violet]

not an "if it works"

it does work and there's reasons for it

[rigid sky]

It worked.

Other builds will also work

But so will this one

[marble crater]

Yes, I am agreeing

[lapis violet]

literally, you don't need to waste 2 points for shriek upgrades because you're never using it anyway

-% peril gen good for purgatus cuz you can just hold right click and win game

all fire perks because it's purgatus

[rigid sky]

Or you can just quell occasionally and take essence harvest, but yeah, not like you have to optimise for making Shriek better

Inner tranquility is at least not detrimental

I would question battle meditation too but I guess you're trying to completely eliminate quelling

Which kinda makes sense as having a gap without being able to Shriek can be a bit dangerous

Tbh it's an achievement you can do in Malice so it's OK to not have a hyperoptimised build, you can play with luxury points

[lapis violet]

yup. for other staves i wouldn't have taken it but it makes me able to channel coruscation for maybe 5 seconds longer on average and that stacks up throughout a match

battle med is not great on anything other than purgatus because the amount they generate is simply too big to get quelled effectively

~5s channel time is better than ~1 extra cast

[rigid sky]

It's good on Scrier's Gaze actually

[lapis violet]

i've heard but scrier's isn't something many people take anyway

[rigid sky]

It's a gun psyker toy

[lapis violet]

i can't headshot for shit so i don't think i'm ever taking it

[rigid sky]

And yeah gun psyker isn't so popular

Pfft take columnus iag

You don't have to be precise

Just point that cone of death around head level

Or wade into a crowd with a DS4

[lapis violet]

you see, i invested maybe 6k plasteel on my vet to get a decently good ciag

[rigid sky]

DD/SG turn DS4 into a horde clearer

CIAG is one of the easier guns to build though imo

Since it has like 4 decent options for your #2 blessing

You only need Dumdum

And the modifier spread is quite friendly

You can even get by with a lower damage stat, only really important one is stopping power

[lapis violet]

not saying it ain't but getting both blessings is quite necessary imo and i'm not certain they transfer over classes, so i wasn't looking forward to rolling for dumdum and deathspitter again

[rigid sky]

They do transfer

[lapis violet]

coolio

[rigid sky]

Can say that with certainty

But if you don't feel gun psyker then yeah

I think it plays crazy fun, and it has some of the best boss DPS in the game (and dps against everything)

It's like an even more unstable ES/MF veteran

[manic river]

This is starting to be fun

[cinder moon]

also good for smytker

[stone canyon]

Well hello there

Its even 381?

[upper sun]

good luck

[stone canyon]

With Warp Resistance at 61%

[karmic finch]

Rounding discrepancy is all

Warp res dump stat is the best

That staff is perfect

Pray for good perks and blessings on the upgrades

Warp flurry 2 is fine to keep, but you want to overwrite stamina

So you need one good upgrade

[stone canyon]

I could also set Warp Flurry 2 as Terrifying Barrage 4 and guarantee likelyhood of rolling another tier 4 blessing

Which wouldnt be Terrifying Barrage atleast 😅

[karmic finch]

Overwrite the stamina with a bad t4 perk also

Terrifying barrage is legit better than surge

So stick surge on if you have it

[stone canyon]

yey!

[quartz barn]

Def put surge over tb

[stone canyon]

lvl 3 flak and lvl 3 nexus

[quartz barn]

Nice

[frozen loom]

damn that's nice

[quartz barn]

Only rip is that you got t3s, but still

[quartz barn]

Literally 2 points off godroll

[karmic finch]

And having nexus locked in opens up both the burn build and the flurry build (though can't then take brittle and flurry)

[plucky flax]

RIP no godroll.

Those stats spread are crazy though.

[stone canyon]

Shame about Nexus not being lvl 4, but its 0,5% to 2% crit loss

[plucky flax]

Best I've ever seen.

[stone canyon]

Yeah +1 above what should be possible

[karmic finch]

Still god roll, just not god emperor of mankind roll

[plucky flax]

Mine is not even godroll and it's better.

[stone canyon]

Better than my old one

So gonna go try some blazing trauma again

[plucky flax]

For sure infested is super dead perk.

[karmic finch]

Does blazing go up to 4?

[stone canyon]

Nope

[cinder moon]

doesn't infested count for boss damage?

[cinder moon]

only on force swords

[plucky flax]

No that's unyielding.

Infested are dogs and the corrupted zombies.

Oh and bursters.

[cinder moon]

i need to get a flamer without infested locked in

my best one has blaze away+overpressure+unyielding+infested

[plucky flax]

I like unyielding flak on dot weapons. So purga, flamer, knife, ogryn melee stuff.

[rigid sky]

Overpressure doesn't work atm

But it will probably be fixed soon

[cinder moon]

i know

flamer is 95% of the reason i play zealot at all, having a broken blessing really takes the fun out of flamer

getting one more magazine would also be nice

spend most of every match just meleeing

meanwhile purgatus go brrrr

[stuck sinew]

Welcome to Zealot

[cinder moon]

i don't mind it, per se, i just want more freedom to use flamer

[quartz barn]

Tbf isnt the whole point of zealot to be mostly melee

[cinder moon]

hey, they get unique weapon with flamer, i wanna use flamer

i do like evis though

[frozen loom]

eyy got a decent one

worst case, I have a nice flurry 3 now if i get a decent roll with better distribution

[rich spindle]

So many eternal loadscreens lately

[rigid sky]

Flamer imo is mostly to compensate for having a bad hordeclear melee weapon

like a thunderhammer or a knife

[vestal fulcrum]

If you can, provide game session logs to @fading galleon via DM, as they are providing them directly to devs interested in resolving the issue

[cinder moon]

my favorite loadout is evis + flamer + molotovs with chastise

[manic river]

Well I'm now LV 30 @vestal fulcrum

Time to create builds

And spend my 15K Plasteel

[stone canyon]

Damn the person who linked me previously Unlimited Power Smite build, now that im gonna try it, link is dead and build gone

[manic river]

There goes all my dockets

[vestal fulcrum]

good luck, sibling

[manic river]

Is this usable

[plucky flax]

Low damage but you can extract surge.

Rare blessing.

[vestal fulcrum]

A bit low on damage, yeah, but somewhat usable

[manic river]

But how different is a -18%

[rich spindle]

the difference between 62% and high 70% might only be like 30 damage

[manic river]

30 damage is

Nothing?

[plucky flax]

Keep in mind all the scaling we have.

[manic river]

Hmm

[plucky flax]

Warp rider, warp charges, etc.

[manic river]

Maybe I could go try roll again

Unless..

[plucky flax]

Blast radius and warp resistance are dump stats.

[rich spindle]

thats a pretty good staff for boss daamge

[manic river]

well I could go roll this one

[rich spindle]

wow, great staff

go ahead

[manic river]

Surge again

huh

[rich spindle]

lmao

I spent 30k plasteel and didnt get surge

[manic river]

Well I'd say this one is better if I keep Elite perks and switch the other blessing and stamina perk?

[vestal fulcrum]

Sounds about right

[rich spindle]

yeah

[manic river]

Now I need another blessings

[rich spindle]

what does the damage diff say

between that 79 and the 62

[plucky flax]

FartShart crafting strikes hard.

Can't wait for rework next year.

[manic river]

Yeah next year...

[rich spindle]

2027

[manic river]

I am tired of this game dumping me always either dmg or first target

I feel like that's intentional

If Hadron bricks me this sword after spending 300K I'll pop

[rich spindle]

the difference is pretty negligible if you look at the values

most of the time

[manic river]

That's 1

3 more

[rich spindle]

so I think you can get 59% more damage theoretically with max everything?

[manic river]

And she bricked it

I hate this system

ugh................

[rich spindle]

lol. shred is fine

[plucky flax]

Dunno if you play warp charges or not when you do void. I don't. But I have perfect timing and warp rider. So 15% and 20%.

[manic river]

Can I save this one

[rich spindle]

30*1.2 = 36 damage diff between a "low" damage roll and good roll :/

[manic river]

[rich spindle]

id change specialists and exorcist and its a perfectly usable weapon

[manic river]

WHY AM I GETTING ONLY T3 BLESSINGS OUT OF ALL THE PLASTEEL

[rich spindle]

because its a gambling system with variance that doesnt really matter much

[manic river]

Another bricked but at least I can rip that IV

Unless

Which one of these dueling swords are better?

[marble crater]

You can make both of those usable I would say

I would prefer the first one though, unarmored to flak and rampage to uncanny 🤔

[plucky flax]

Why flak on ds4?

[manic river]

Shouldn't it be Maniac

[rigid sky]

I like maniac/carapace

[manic river]

So I rip Uncanny

And modify the first one

Is that what everyone is agreeing with

[weary crane]

anyone else think small shield should completely stop everything until it breaks?

literally just a temporary wall

[stone canyon]

Empowered Smite build got me killed more than usual

Stunlock 30 baddies infront of you, 1 scab bruiser walks behind you

[manic river]

Is Rampage better than Riposte on Dueling Sword?

[weary crane]

who needs trauma when you have purg

[stone canyon]

Purge is the only staff left for me to try, still havent gotten any good ones

[rigid sky]

Purgatus is easy to make

burn above 76, cloud as high as possible, rest doesn't matter much (quell speed ideally highish)

flak, (crit chance or unyielding), warp nexus, warp flurry

(but warp flurry isn't so necessary)

[cinder moon]

idk why the link died but

basically just use surge staff most of the time, and use smite for locking down mixed hordes

[fading galleon]

I have enough logs for now actually but thanks for looking out

They might've found the cause

[vestal fulcrum]

Potentially good news, for once

[fading galleon]

For once?

[stone canyon]

Thanks

[vestal fulcrum]

It's not like we often hear back from the devs that something is actively being looked into/has had a positive outcome re: investigation

[fading galleon]

Oh true.

The magic of a direct connection to QA

It's a lesson I learned working in customer service long ago: things get done the fastest if you can talk directly to the person responsible.

[thorn cedar]

Expectation: Useful direct feed from players experiencing uncommon issues.
Reality: FATSHARK I WAS USING PLASMA GUN AND IT EXPLODED ME IS THIS FIXABLE PLEASE FIX YOUR GAME

[upper sun]

IM SORRY

BUT

[fading galleon]

That's why I suspect having me as the Great Filter is useful

[upper sun]

HOW DOES HE GET SURGE TWICE IN A ROW

[thorn cedar]

Filters are mandatory. Having to fill out a bug report already sieves out 90% of the emotional reactions from players. The issue is that it also filters out 90% of players who are too lazy to access an off-site webpage and formulate a response.

[fading galleon]

I send uncommon problem reports to QA, they tell me what the status of their investigation is, I go chase people down for logs, they find the cause, everyone wins.

[thorn cedar]

(ie. me)

[fading galleon]

Yeah but they still come here to complain

[thorn cedar]

No filter here.

[fading galleon]

And since I see so much, I start recognizing trends

Like the loading screen thing

[thorn cedar]

Your game can crash and the next window you see is Discord. So you get to immediately start bitching before your RAM even dumps the memory from your now-terminated game.

[lunar hollow]

i place a hex on a random fatshark employee every time i am inconvenienced in darktide

[upper sun]

i sacrifice a small child for a chaos god everytime i get terrifying barrage

[thorn cedar]

unrelated but in a thread bitching about the new HD2 DMR being shit the OP admitted in a subthread that he had no idea crouching increases accuracy and reduces recoil

just things to think about when you read any complaint

[lunar hollow]

literally never trust a redditor

not even ONCE

[thorn cedar]

dont trust anecdotes period

[lunar hollow]

nah u can trust mine im 100% always right

[thorn cedar]

i mean sorta unironically though yeah, cause i know you now

but if i just joined id be like who this mfer

show me RECEIPTS of this bolter killing ten ragers

[upper sun]

reddit is a broken clock moving slowly so its only right once a month

[lunar hollow]

every time someone mentions the bolter they need to slightly increase the recoil values on it

nobody should be allowed to discuss it

[rigid sky]

I post on reddit sometimes so at least those parts are accurate :)

[lunar hollow]

without making it worse for everyone

[thorn cedar]

reddit is a broken clock but the clock is digital so the lights are just out on the inside

[lunar hollow]

i think the saddest thing ive seen on a reddit post was like "off-meta builds thread"

and u get shit like agri brauto

[thorn cedar]

"ive been using a lesser-known combo, the powersword and plasma gun. it lets me handle everything and it combos great with VoC, which is unappreciated"

[lunar hollow]

NOBODY is talking about this

i actually get all my takes from youtube comments

[upper sun]

i love agri brauto just turn off brain and go full auto

[lunar hollow]

(about the crusher)

another dude thought they did an animation rework a month ago

i wanna live in the world he does

[upper sun]

woah they have heavy attacks in the game now?

[lunar hollow]

the new darktide update will turn it into a 40k themed cookie clicker

[upper sun]

🤔 actually thats kind of an untapped market

[fading galleon]

Crab?

Oh Josho

[lunar hollow]

i am unfortunately nowhere near as cool as crab

[fading galleon]

Your chatting patterns are insanely similar

[thorn cedar]

what's what crustaceous fucker up to nowadays

[fading galleon]

Playtesting

[thorn cedar]

what maddening suggestions has he presented

[lunar hollow]

ive had people ask me if i copied the way i name my clips from him

[thorn cedar]

i must know the chaos of his mind

[lunar hollow]

i just happen to have the same kind of ape brain that names them all dumb shit so i can never find them later

[fading galleon]

He does find them later

Lisan al-Gaib

[lunar hollow]

its a journey every time

[fading galleon]

I dont like vet, this is my only functional (i.e I feel like I do well) build

[thorn cedar]

vet's tree needs a third rework, i hate to say

but yeah idk how to feel about them anymore

they are strong but in the most boring way

[lunar hollow]

i like the vibe of vets tree the most out of any class

[upper sun]

vet has so much bullshit in its tree its unreal

[lunar hollow]

because it has the strongest subclass identity but then like

the nodes are all over the place

[vestal fulcrum]

What did I just read

[upper sun]

10% rending 15% extra damage my brother in the emperor i have to jump through hoops to get 3% extra damage

[thorn cedar]

regular nodes are so strong that i find it difficult to justify reaching any of his keystones, AND ALL OF HIS KEYSTONES ARE VERY STRONG

it's quite silly

[lunar hollow]

i wasn't very happy when the latest tree rework was power creep: the patch

[fading galleon]

Lol. Lmao, even

[lunar hollow]

the actual node count needed to go down

i think vet is the only class where u cant go straight down one of the branches and just take every node

[thorn cedar]

pls kill survivalist

[fading galleon]

And the class still sucks

[fading galleon]

Middle branch

Well not every node.

[thorn cedar]

"wow who is this no-survivalist using idiot"

[fading galleon]

But you can just go straight down and it's viable

[lunar hollow]

vet conditionally has better stats in both melee and ranged than either psyker or zealot iirc

[thorn cedar]

they do

and THEN you add keystones

[lunar hollow]

u can make a dc parry one-shot a rager on headshot w/o crit

and u cant do that on zealot

[fading galleon]

And it STILL sucks

[cinder moon]

i don't use keystones in 4/5 of my vet builds because the keystones suck ass

[thorn cedar]

it's just not interesting to play an immortal for 90% of combat time

[lunar hollow]

vet is unfortunately played by veteran players which means it will always be terrible

[fading galleon]

Because Vet is a fucking BABY with low default movement speed and pathetic stamina stats

[upper sun]

one point in tag couldnt hurt

[lunar hollow]

the only solution is putting vet in a servitorized wheelchair

[thorn cedar]

they dont suck, the regular nodes are just too strong. look at what the keystones provide on paper and tell me no other class would murder for that potential

[lunar hollow]

that another player has to push around

[cinder moon]

literally the only keystone i use

[thorn cedar]

like if you dont think for a second i wouldnt take Marksman's Focus on my Psyker you are very wrong

[lunar hollow]

the stam regen delay was at least normalized to 1s instead of 1.25s

[cinder moon]

lemme correct; getting to the keystones sucks ass, and you're right, the regular nodes are wildly good

[fading galleon]

Ogryn would not accept money to use Marksman's Finesse

For.... Reasons

[thorn cedar]

"Focus? Like when eat rations good?"

[fading galleon]

Ogryn would love weapon specialist though.

Imagine that with the kickback.

[lunar hollow]

marksman's focus on ogryn would be a very reasonable competitor to lucky bullet (in that i wouldnt use either)

[fading galleon]

Just think about it .

[upper sun]

ogryn has builds? i thought everyone went rocks/rush/heavy attack

[fading galleon]

Imagine it for second

[thorn cedar]

Weapon Specialist is legit just a better Inexorable Judgement, and Judgement is VERY good

[fading galleon]

Everyone is dumb

Ogryn definitely has builds

[upper sun]

nuh uhhh i just turn off my brain and spam heavy attacks

[fading galleon]

That's every build

[lunar hollow]

i use taunt when i play with a friend who only runs thammer because u can absolutely destroy daemonhosts for personal amusement

[thorn cedar]

kekback

[vestal fulcrum]

Ogryn has like... 3 builds that deviate relatively little from one another

[fading galleon]

But not the strongest one

Rending pbb kickback is his strongest build

Makes plasma look like a toy

[vestal fulcrum]

They mostly differ by ability choices - everything else is related to weapons, or sometimes your preference for being unkillable v being able to kill everything better

[cinder moon]

so i shouldn't do light em up kickback?

[fading galleon]

No

[cinder moon]

[fading galleon]

Light em up needs high rof to stack fast

[thorn cedar]

still prefer light em up achlys, so fun

[vestal fulcrum]

There's no benefit in doing that, no

[fading galleon]

Rending mitigates both armor and damage drop off

[thorn cedar]

all the dakka, never have to press R to reload cause ult does it for you

[fading galleon]

It, along with high reload speed, turns the kickback into a deathbeam

[cinder moon]

i rarely play my kickback build, might be the change i need to make ww1gryn into the strongest

[fading galleon]

You can kill crushers. You can demolish elite squads. You can evaporate hordes. It just doesn't do great boss damage

[cinder moon]

i just like seeing things on fire

[lunar hollow]

sucks the kickback minimum pellet count nerf absolutely ruined the weapon 😔

[fading galleon]

🎣

[upper sun]

+2 nukes in maelstrom is game breaking

[lunar hollow]

i may be baiting but there is a real group of people who see a negative number in a patch note for a weapon and they drop it altogether

regardless of the nerf itself

[fading galleon]

Yeah I know lmao

[cinder moon]

my ww1gryn gonna crunch them all

[upper sun]

did we just get a devblog or am i dreaming?

[lunar hollow]

dev blog

oh shit

We iterated on the condition, giving it a more dynamic setup. We tuned it to ensure it would switch at regular intervals during gameplay, making it feel much less static
speaking of crab

[upper sun]

damn telo stopped streaming i wanted someone to read it for me 😭

[marble crater]

New dev blog just dropped

[upper sun]

magistrati oubliette is gonna get worse now i can already see it

[thorn cedar]

scab captains need a serious buff

[upper sun]

leave scab captain alone its a nice short easy mission i can solo when half my team wont get on the elevator and i wanna do weeklies

[lunar hollow]

triple the attack speed

call it a day

i wish magistrati had the scab captain disappear at half health and he runs away to the higher level (now accessible by a staircase)

and thats when u got the Rager Rush™️

[upper sun]

woah where do you think you are?

[thorn cedar]

i wish that rager rush was immediate

and then the shotgun rush came in right after

[upper sun]

thats too much gameplay in the game

[thorn cedar]

even for chasm logistratum the most exciting face-off against the captain is when twenty shotgunners drop into the arena with him

and that guy still has specials spawning the entire time

[lunar hollow]

yea magistrati is just kinda strugglin

its literally just beat the dude to death and then ur done because there's nothing else happening

90% of the time you outdps the scripted elite spawn wave

[upper sun]

map is bugged to hell to theres like 3 paths to glitch to the boss before the rest of the team can even reach him

[lunar hollow]

the section where u are in the prison proper is also like

way too short

[thorn cedar]

that corridor is fun tho

[lunar hollow]

i wish it was more similar to the area in warren after the mid event

[upper sun]

ye

thats my favorite part

[lunar hollow]

i had a dude blast my ears with motivational speaking while trying to solo clutch on that part one time

[thorn cedar]

im shocked people play online games with VOIP enabled

no idea why you would do that to yourself

[lunar hollow]

before everyone died he would just give the most tacticool callouts

i knew when he was reloading

at one point he said "there's a dog chasing me it might get me"

dog. singular.

[upper sun]

my favorite voip users are the ones who just say sorry once all game for one cock up

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/3gcehb

[thorn cedar]

my favourite was me and some other random hard carrying an auric map back when it was new, we never dropped but our other two teammates shared 10 downs each

[upper sun]

i love this dude

[thorn cedar]

and at the end of the game one of them types "thanks for the callouts [other guy], we couldnt have do it without you"

[lunar hollow]

my friend i would duo queue with at the time absolutely HATED anyone who would talk this much

[thorn cedar]

and me, with my voip muted, just wondering what any of that was even adding

[lunar hollow]

but i found it amazing

[lunar hollow]

lmao

last dude i had who talked was trying to play mission commander until he suicided for the 2nd time as a void psyker

and then he shut up

u could feel the shame

i had dc'd at the start and rejoined to "you all need to step up your game"

[thorn cedar]

i mean forget what people even say

just listen to the quality of his microphone

i cant fucking stand it

[lunar hollow]

presumably he said this because he planned to metaphorically fall down the stairs

[thorn cedar]

and it's overlapping itself right over the game's crisp audio cues

like fuck man, just shut up

[lunar hollow]

it made me think he was playing in his bathroom

[thorn cedar]

anyway my shit is always on mute, i really dont care

[upper sun]

had one guy talk bullshit in russian after dying 3 times

no one else in the team spoke russian

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/rcbewu

oh yeah that same psyker guy

ran AWAY from a plague ogryn

just absolute terror

if i couldnt hear him i would have no idea he did any of this

[plucky flax]

2 purgas in a team

[upper sun]

peak hab gameplay

[plucky flax]

1.1k kills with purga 688k damage.

1.3k kills with blaze trauma 492k damage.

Such a bad weapon pls never use it.

[upper sun]

other guy has more plasteel than you in the first sorry thats the one stat that matters

[plucky flax]

Dunno how he's so fast.

We both use deimos and same build it looks like.

[cinder moon]

i rarely hear anyone on voip, last guy i heard was drunk or something and rambling so quietly i could only tell that he was talking, but not what he was saying. eventually he just DCd lmao

[lunar hollow]

you've been outfarmed 😔

[upper sun]

i feel like eu has less vc

[cinder moon]

i'm NA but still almost never hear anyone

[upper sun]

🤔

maybe you play in weirdo hours

[cinder moon]

this is partially true

[lunar hollow]

i had a dude call me a monkey once cuz i went to rescue a dude while he and a mostly useless psyker were fighting a beast of nurgle

[upper sun]

the strangest thing i have ever seen was one person waking up at the crack of dawn (i couldnt fall asleep) on a fucking friday and solo'ing an entire mission

[cinder moon]

DT bots are surprisingly useful if you don't let things get out of hand

unlike those karking useless IDIOT bots in aliens fireteam

[lunar hollow]

darktide bots are really annoying to kill

as i have learned from doing duo runs

they are very good specifically at melee (and not much else)

[upper sun]

had one guy rage quit after talking shit because i ignored a chaos spawn to rescue two people

[cinder moon]

only thing i don't like about DT bots is that they use medicae

[upper sun]

they only do that in heresy+ i think so its kinda intended

[rich spindle]

They dont block poxbursters is the biggest thing

They can f the whole team by eating one

[thorn cedar]

they can

the issue is they are the same bot from VT2 for melee

[upper sun]

those dicks have 600hp they dont care

[thorn cedar]

so they overuse their block, drain stamina, and then have nothing left to push

[rich spindle]

Lol

[thorn cedar]

so unless they just HAPPEN to have stamina in the bar for when the burster leaps, they wont do anything

if it's just a lone burster walking at them, theyll push it

[lunar hollow]

i have found that if a bulwark is next to a downed teammate they shit themselves and keep attacking the bulwark

[thorn cedar]

so thats still better than 75% of the human playerbase

[lunar hollow]

u can use a bulwark as a downed bot bodyguard if u wanna kill them

[rich spindle]

My one duo i won was saved by a bot revive so ill never complain

[thorn cedar]

yep same issue they treat it like it was a shieldvermin or shieldrottie

those two would shield break eventually, but bulwarks dont do that in this game

[upper sun]

happened to me a couple of times

[cinder moon]

i swear bots can roll a magic revive

[upper sun]

ye

[cinder moon]

but it's like a nat 20

[upper sun]

if one guy is clutching and he gets downed i usually leave so maybe he gets a useful bot

[thorn cedar]

i want you to know then

that 90% of the time

it's just making the end screen take longer

and you cheapen the entire affair

[lunar hollow]

i never leave

i am entitled to my dockets

[thorn cedar]

please dont be fucken weiners

[cinder moon]

name doesn't check out

[upper sun]

if they get downed its already over and someone who tries that hard deserves another chance

[upper sun]

if 30 extra seconds mattered that much just leave when you die

[modest perch]

As long as netters can shoot through hordes, walls, and bulwarks reconnect is a legitimate strategy

[thorn cedar]

lot of quitter talk here

[upper sun]

????

ah

[upper sun]

look all im saying is if someone spends 7 minutes trying to rescue 3 people i'm gonna give him another chance if i can

im obv not gonna quit the second i die but if the last person starts struggling i would try to help

[thorn cedar]

consider instead just eating the loss and not abusing a reconnect function to cheese a win

[upper sun]

i dont reconnect what?

i just quit

[thorn cedar]

oh, fair i suppose, but still obnoxious on my end

if i lost my clutch, i lost

[upper sun]

no fuck you you will take the win if i can help it

[modest perch]

Consider not just giving the heretics a free win cus they used some deus ex machina bullshit to clip you through a wall

[thorn cedar]

i dont want some pity bot to show up and, 9/10 times, fail to revive me and it extends the match time artificially, or worse, actually pick me up despite a fair loss

[modest perch]

Like imagine letting the emperor down because you’d rather lose by the rules

[thorn cedar]

dead is dead

[upper sun]

eh i gave up

40k plasteel for 5 good weapons is too much for me

im just gonna take a break until they fix crafting

[thorn cedar]

it's a big slot machine really

and most people are very bad at managing odds

[upper sun]

people are just bad at being lucky 😭

[thorn cedar]

doesnt help that the actual weapons themselves are rather unintuitive for their respective stats

so you have people trashing perfectly fine weapons because damage is 73% instead of 80%

[upper sun]

you gotta press that little button in the corner to get any useful info

[thorn cedar]

the thing about 'the breakpoints' argument is that .. most players aren't actually doing that

they just see the number isnt as high as it could be and dump it

[upper sun]

😭 i just want the perks and blessings i like on weapons

[thorn cedar]

otherwise you'd learn pretty quickly that most breakpoints are on a very narrow margin, and that's on the low end

[upper sun]

i have twoo many illisi with executor and deimos with slaughter

FATSHARK GUIDE ME PLEASE... PLEASEEE

[thorn cedar]

ive been using the same deimos for a year now

it's like 473 or something

[upper sun]

It unironically took me 2-3 weeks for one good deimos

[thorn cedar]

if i ever replace it that new deimos will still function exactly as well (except for warp resistance, which is a giant who cares)

[upper sun]

this is how many deimos it took me to replace the one i had from melk

very weak pls buff

ye

nexus4 blazing3 crit+flak and its amazing

its very worth it

aoe protection from all melee attacks and good damage

[thorn cedar]

Trauma is actually one of the very rare weapons where the bars matter a LOT

[bold iris]

i think voidstrike is stronger and basically does all that

[upper sun]

on a usual run with one i only take hp damage until the like 3rd encounter

[bold iris]

but smaller aoe i guess

[thorn cedar]

the difference between its charge, radius, and damage bars from even 50-80% is very substantial

since they all feed into each other

a mid trauma staff vs. a great trauma staff is that the mid staff takes longer, costs more perils, and does less damage over a smaller area

[rich spindle]

I doubted it for a while but the soulblze aoe is essentially the entire room. So if you're focusing a crusher pack and crit twice all the trash around them will have 6 stacks of soulblaze and die

[upper sun]

epi center fall off is the big one

[thorn cedar]

warp resist still matters to a degree

quell is what you dont care about

trauma is very expensive at the best of times

[rich spindle]

I have a perfect one but with 49 quell speed, ngl the quell speed is kinda annoying

[thorn cedar]

it's the difference of being able to fire off two full charged shots for less than it costs to fire off three half-charged shots

and in the same time frame

it's pretty significant

and unlike voidstrike you cant crutch the perils cost off onto the weakspot transfer

[upper sun]

you mean flurry?

[thorn cedar]

nexus is really just for the soulblaze

and there's really not a lot of options anyway

flurry is very good though, charge speed also means less perils to cast

[upper sun]

flurry and brittleness is an option

[thorn cedar]

and again trauma is very expensive

[upper sun]

i never tried it tho idk how good it is

[stone canyon]

Still cant believe my luck i got that 381 trauma today and then got the right perks and blessings for it too

But wish the Warp Resistance wasnt dump stat but quell instead

Or maybe equally shared 370ish on both

Supposed to watch TV serie, but damn, ill just have to go touch my new trauma staff to make sure its real and not a dream, and play a game with it now

[plucky flax]

Wut? You want high quell and low warp resist.

Not too low, but 60 something.

So you can quell for 2 ticks and full blast again.

If you have red trauma 100% everything then yeah that's good. But for a 380 weapon with 80 max stat you definitely want higher quell than warp resis.

[quartz barn]

you also get to edge harder which is always a plus

[frozen loom]

not too sure how to build around a flurry-brittle trauma staff

[marble crater]

In what regard?

[stone canyon]

This Trauma Staff is good, but im not good at playing with it 🤷‍♂️

Psyker just too fragile

[radiant frigate]

i never understood why people think psyker is fragile until i started playing zealot again

[cinder moon]

psyker can get toughness so easily

without even needing weapon blessings

i feel tanky on psyker with my unlimited power build, just gotta make sure to not get stumbled or get locked down by like 5 gunners at once

[brave fiber]

ogryn is chonky while zealot has a lot of passives that make you unkillable

vet and psyker are both part of the made of paper gang

[radiant frigate]

vet is tanky with an asterisk

iron will VoC is the asterisk

[cinder moon]

*VoC spam

[radiant frigate]

freakishly resilient

[brave fiber]

yeah but so few vets use voc unfortunately

At least in my niche experience

[radiant frigate]

is it really the case

[cinder moon]

[radiant frigate]

in my experience almost all use voc

[cinder moon]

most vets i see are using VoC

[radiant frigate]

which i prefer

[brave fiber]

maybe I am playing a different game

[cinder moon]

once in a while you get an e-stance or stealth vet

[radiant frigate]

you see the occasional infiltrate (lol)

[brave fiber]

I see one like 1/4 vets

[radiant frigate]

exec stance bit more common than infiltrate

but mostly voc

kruber mindset

[brave fiber]

to be fair vet is still the one class I don’t have leveled to full so I’m still a bit clueless about his stuffs

[radiant frigate]

vet is good

ogryn is tupid

zealot is actually cool again

[cinder moon]

zealot chat still full of freaks

[radiant frigate]

look i just play the class i don't go to the chat

except to doompost but i found out about martyr just being Really Big Number after only running bp for an eternity

so i no longer do that

[frozen loom]

This is my current deal. I'm kinda bad at using it, without developing RSI

[frozen loom]

I played psyker first. Then I got spoiled by zealot and ogryn

[brave fiber]

imo zealot has the most potential for dumb fun in the game with the least time investment

[jovial juniper]

Just zealot things

[flat nexus]

ill be honest my veteran skill tree is kinda built like a zealot though it has less survivability it can use a plasma gun that can deal with balwarks

[stone canyon]

Aurics seem safer than regular damnation, went lot better when actually had team that knew what it did

[brave fiber]

I’d be a lot more inclined to try vet if my zealot with a revolver didn’t do their job but better

hot take but if a rat with a knife is getting more ranged elite and special kills than a plasma gun veteran there’s an issue

[flat nexus]

[brave fiber]

ong they need to go scorched earth on zarona it’s still too broken

[flat nexus]

i wasnt using a zorona

[brave fiber]

just a general statement

[flat nexus]

can agree

i used to use a zorona but the reload is so long that i swap it to a las pistol

[brave fiber]

I almost never full reload my zarona unless there’s zero enemies, I weave in 1-2 bullet reloads in the middle of fights constantly

More manageable

[feral lynx]

how do you open this tab up I got 152 hours and I still don't know how to do this

[flat nexus]

ita a mod

[brave fiber]

It’s a mod

[flat nexus]

if you have it its f5

[feral lynx]

what is the mod called

[brave fiber]

scoreboard iirc

[flat nexus]

let me get the video link that i used

since he was straight forward

[brave fiber]

Beware tho dt modding is a bit of a sticky wicket, recommend watching a few vids on it beforehand

[flat nexus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw_tQvAX0nM&t=202s

[feral lynx]

alright thanks for the advice

[tacit thicket]

Ayo did anyone got Warp Battery recently? No idea whats happening but im stuck at 210s for some reason even though just to make sure i didn't used my ability for the entire match 🤡 is there a bug about this penence that I'm not aware of?

[stone canyon]

Getting low dmg scores with my trauma

[brave fiber]

That’s the max warp charges one right

It’s tough, best advice is make sure you take the 4% chance to get a charge for all kills rather than the 10% soulblaze one and choose a mission that you know has constant fighting

Other than that you can try using bb to steal elite kills from a distance to keep charges up if you aren’t in range

[stone canyon]

That penance was terrible, but yeah hi-intensity for it so you got constantly something to kill

Surge might be good for it so can make sure you target elites?

[tacit thicket]

I've trying these methods for the last few days and somehow it stills at 210s which makes me think if there's a bug about this penence

[brave fiber]

That’s the longest you’ve had max charges

Not a bug

[tacit thicket]

I know but how can it not get more than that even not using my abilities for the entire mission?

That's why im asking or maybe I'm tripping

[brave fiber]

Because you have gone above 210 seconds

Haven’t

If it drops for even a milisecond the timer resets

[tacit thicket]

I know

[stone canyon]

Tough moment in last mission, with blazing trauma psyker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4kjM6d-69c

[tacit thicket]

But still very weird

[brave fiber]

I mean the penance needs what it says on the tin, it’s hard but there’s no bugs with it

[tacit thicket]

Damn

[tacit thicket]

I see, welp I'll keep trying hopefully i can get it today

[brave fiber]

Good luck man don’t feel bad psyker penances are known to be really annoying

[tacit thicket]

Yes but eitherway thank you for the feedback man

[marble crater]

I used surge in shock troop gauntlet, helps if your team is not the best at killing specials and elites

[frozen loom]

trick for warp batt: know your missions - avoid anything with an elevator and most things where you have to wait long for others. Then just go shock troop or high intensity

[frozen loom]

I think this is how I did it too

[brave fiber]

(I still don’t have Mallus monstronum or whatever because I can’t be asked to get a premade just to get it lol)

[frozen loom]

yea me too

[stone canyon]

Team up 😄

[tacit thicket]

If you need someone to get that penence im here, i can use my Ogryn and get the boss attention with Loyal Protector

[radiant frigate]

is it now

[brave fiber]

imo yeah

[stone canyon]

You can do maelstrom minibosses for the penance

[frozen loom]

bruh, what is with US servers and why does everyone just charge in and die to a demonhost after 70% of what is an easy run (weekly missions with no deaths rant)

[stone canyon]

They have less hp

[radiant frigate]

why's that

[brave fiber]

Can 1 tap everything that’s not a mauler or ogryn, and has pierce

Very fast

etc

[marble crater]

While true it's also more hectic with all the extra enemies so it can be difficult for your team to avoid damaging them. Easiest way I think is killing a DH

[frozen loom]

is there a way to speed up force sword special actions?

[stone canyon]

Yeah perhaps, some kind stranger from here discord helped me get it

[tacit thicket]

No idea

[stone canyon]

scayman and some numbers behind the name

[marble crater]

You might be able to cancel the animation, with a block for example. Works for the MkVI power sword

[tacit thicket]

Maybe cancel animation but haven't tried if it works

[radiant frigate]

hmm today i will pull a perfectly skippable boss

[brave fiber]

there are super rare moments where a dh is just completely unskippable to be fair, but yeah pubs are the worst

[radiant frigate]

and everything was going perfectly until then

[frozen loom]

Yea but thrice in a day is wild

[marble crater]

That one map where the DH can spawn right next to the med station comes to mind, I definitely didn't pull it because I wanted to heal the other day, ended up dying

[frozen loom]

i'll just reroll this weekly

[frozen loom]

I think it works? maybe skips like 0.1 or 0.2s

[marble crater]

I will try when I play later, I never actually tried to cancel the force sword animation, because I rarely use it to begin with

[frozen loom]

tbf I only learned of the vet PS animation cancel recently since it's the last class i made

[marble crater]

And because you actually need to use it to have a workable weapon, force swords work perfectly fine without the special, imo

[frozen loom]

tbf if I were to use force swords without the special, I'd go with duellers, but that's a personal taste thing

[frozen loom]

nvm it's the same cutoff as if you were attacking

[cinder moon]

same. malleus and the ogryn private penance are the last 2 redacted's i haven't done, because F getting a private game for something you could do in normal play

i got zealot's before private games were a thing, and vet's are all pub possible, which is stupid

[rigid sky]

The push attack though

[frozen loom]

I'm a scrub and I don't use it : ' )

[cinder moon]

force sword push is nice

also laspistol force push

[radiant frigate]

what does the laspistol push stop

[manic river]

How do I use the Equinox Staff

Properly

[radiant frigate]

trauma?

[marble crater]

Or voidstrike

[cinder moon]

it'll stagger ragers, not sure if it interrupts their attack sequence though

can also push poxbursters with it

and it goes through walls

[manic river]

Out of 8K plateel this is the only staff I have

yes I know I need warp nexus

but I only have 10 hours on psyker

It's not like every single blessing in this game is locked

and only 1 or 2 are useable

[radiant frigate]

you can do without nexus if you use true aim

i have one alt psyker

[manic river]

Could I get some insight about how to make a proper tree with void staff

[radiant frigate]

it is already 30

[manic river]

Explain me what's "powerlevel"

[radiant frigate]

probably getting dragged into auric maelstrom by a comrade for 18k xp per mission

idk

[manic river]

So for voidstaff is the best building crits

Hmmmmmmm

Let me change the whole tree

And what mele goes well with the staff

[radiant frigate]

i pretty much exclusively run this

[manic river]

I mean I like knifes but I feel it does not have the best synergy with void staff

I should switch blitz

[radiant frigate]

assail voidstrike is fine too

i just like running bb for reliable boss damage

[manic river]

And what's best for Monstruosities because I'm struggling killing them with the current build I have

So Psyker by default is just bad against monstruosities?

Hmmmm

I have the Mk IV

stamina sucks with it

[radiant frigate]

kinetic resonance brain burst is a nice burst damage phase

[manic river]

but it's the best mele I have

well the only one I have

huh?

Hmmmmmmmmmm

Yes because Hadron bricked me 10K plateel in weapons

[radiant frigate]

i am always in favor of illisi

[manic river]

And I am not waiting another 4 months for a mediocre patch tbh

[radiant frigate]

alt psyker's illisi

[manic river]

I think I have a deimos too

Wait

Ah right

I also have this one

Could be worse

1M dockets just to craft a "proper" duel sword

[radiant frigate]

the thing that makes force swords good imo is illisi goes brr

really now

kills anything smaller than a boss for me

[manic river]

What about Keystones

How do I apply them properly in game

That's just a CDR

[radiant frigate]

difference is that melee is backup to you and the main course to me

[frozen loom]

check the whole tree

tho a lot of people place a looot of value with shriek CDR

if you're using assail, go left/right keystone

[marble crater]

Warp charges my beloved

[manic river]

Well i'm using something like this for Smite/Void

[frozen loom]

I don't like EP for smite either

[manic river]

Which one of them

Combustion?

Maybe Soulstealer..?

[frozen loom]

combustion

[marble crater]

Consider talking Quietude instead of Warp Expenditure

[frozen loom]

outside of shriek, i think soulblaze talents aren't much for non-blaze builds?

[manic river]

wait why does this exist if there's one with 5%

[marble crater]

Perilous Combustion is good

[marble crater]

One is for gaining peril, one for reducing peril

[manic river]

With Smite/Void?

[marble crater]

Ah, I don't play void. But killing elites/specials and then burning things around them is good, kill two gunners and the trash around burns to dead. Might be easier to aim for elite headshots as they are taller?

[manic river]

So....

Smite is just a CC stun

[frozen loom]

By and large yes

[marble crater]

Two elite kills should be 6 stacks, which is enough for chaff

[frozen loom]

It works great with warp charges bc of the CDR

[manic river]

And how how does it work to make it chain massively

[frozen loom]

It charges like a staff

I admit there's been a couple of times i wished i had smite instead of assail

[manic river]

Sorry I'm too used to play Ogryn/Veteran that I always look for the most Offensive and most killing potential strategy on every class

[frozen loom]

Mauler + crusher + rager swarm

[manic river]

And I just started Psyker

Defense huh

[frozen loom]

The problem with that idea with psyker is how paper it tends to be? Tho vet is also kinda paper

[manic river]

Veteran is less punishable

[rigid sky]

Having both sometimes makes sense

It's not all about relative strength of toughness regeneration - It's also about overall coverage

[frozen loom]

I like having both ngl

[rigid sky]

Warp expenditure works when quietitude doesn't

Reduces windows where you can get meleed below full toughness, or where you can get totally shot out

Since the moment something breaches, you really feel it

It's the least important toughness regen node but it's still good

[manic river]

Maybe......

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

So Assail is more offensive, Smite is defensive node

The hell is Brain burst purpose then

you only pop 1 single enemy

[rigid sky]

Single target offense

While assail is spammy

You pick your target and you hurt them a lot more with brain rupture than with assail

[frozen loom]

When I got my current setup with surge mk4/illisi assail i just need to position right and d5s are pretty easy.

[manic river]

Yes but it's 1 target out of many on Auric missions

[rigid sky]

If that 1 target is an elite or special though

[radiant frigate]

surge assail illisi is very comfy

[rigid sky]

Assail gets eaten by chaff

Also you can make it a lot faster if you spec into it

[manic river]

What's the charged attack for

[rigid sky]

Kinetic Resonance at least, enhanced psionics if you are feeling spicy

[rigid sky]

Pre-charging

[manic river]

Ah

[rigid sky]

If you hear something coming

[cinder moon]

can instantly pop a dog/trapper/whatever by precharging BB

[frozen loom]

1 second longer charge, but you pre charge it

[manic river]

I might need some time until I get used to Psyker I'm just not a big fan of being defensive

[frozen loom]

Tbf i hate playing vet so i think it's a matter of class playstyle fitting your preference

I just think smite works well with void bc void needs to charge stuff and that's hard when you're cornered and in a pinch?

[cinder moon]

you can be extremely aggressive as psyker with the right build since you can constantly generate toughness just by existing as a psyker

[manic river]

I saw that

Maybe I need to keep playing more

I'm just feeling frustrated all my grinding was gone by awful rng crafting mechanics

[cinder moon]

taking all of the +toughness gen nodes in the top of the tree makes you almost unkillable. bringing a sword with deflector and the right staff/gun just seals the deal

[frozen loom]

I think you also need some decent alternative equips

[cinder moon]

a lot of missions i play as psyker, i never touch a medicae or medpack unless my team is so bad that they shoot a poxburster in my face or something (or someone picks up a grimoire)

[frozen loom]

In fairness most of my decent stuff came from mission rewards (this is not a flex, decent being 350-ish with appropriate but low blessings)

[radiant frigate]

i hate everyone that picks up grimoires but especially ogryns that do it

[rigid sky]

Psyker is very binary

You take no damage at all

[radiant frigate]

or you die

[rigid sky]

Until you do and then you're on 30%

[cinder moon]

i actually kind of love picking up grimoires when i'm on psyker and have somehow gotten one wound corrupted, because consuming the grim will partially uncorrupt that wound, giving some more margin for error

[manic river]

Are Creeping Flames any good

[cinder moon]

yes

[manic river]

What is the damage tick per stack

[rigid sky]

Also there are only two scary things in the world

Poxbursters

[cinder moon]

the other node for vent isn't even worth taking

[rigid sky]

And bruisers

[manic river]

Uoh

[lethal lagoon]

Creeping flames wil kill all horde, bruisers, and shooter mobs.

[manic river]

Okay I'm conviced

[lethal lagoon]

If that convinces you....

[rigid sky]

Iirc at 84 peril and up it kills all trash, and can kill some specials too

[cinder moon]

vent also allows you to smite for >30s in some situations

[manic river]

Idk I mostly use at above 90

[rigid sky]

83.33333 is the magic number

[cinder moon]

vent+smite = good time

[manic river]

Why

[rigid sky]

Above that, it's all the same

That's 6 stacks of blaze

[manic river]

What's with 83.3

[rigid sky]

The peril gauge is split into 6 segments as far as creeping Flame is concerned

You just need to be in that top segment

So above 83.3333

[signal kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/times-leeroy-jenkins-meeting-gif-15021916

Repeating of course

[cinder moon]

at least i got chicken

[frozen loom]

absolute beauty

[manic river]

Also I heard stamina curios are not +3 if not above 75 is that true

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[manic river]

But why

[radiant frigate]

fatshark

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[manic river]

So

[cinder moon]

rounding errors

[manic river]

So this curio is truly +3

[signal kelp]

Interesting

[manic river]

Got another question

Surge says it does not work with Criticals on secondary charged attacks

[lethal lagoon]

That's a text error they refuse to fix for some reason

Wait

I got confused

[manic river]

why on psykhanium works with charged attacks

[lethal lagoon]

[manic river]

is that normal

[lethal lagoon]

Surge only works on Voidstrike

[manic river]

But void charged as well?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah

[manic river]

Ah so it's a typo

Cool

[lethal lagoon]

It doesn't work on trauma charged

[manic river]

I need to get Warp Nexus asap

No wonder why i see people one shooting bullwarks for no reason with that staff

[lethal lagoon]

I thought you were talking about the text about Surge's(the staff) critical bonus not working on secondaries.

But we got to the right destination anyways

[manic river]

yes

I was talking about that

[lethal lagoon]

[manic river]

I wanted to ask if that was a bug or a text issue

I suppose as you've said it's just a text issue

[marble crater]

This conversation is confusing

[lethal lagoon]

[manic river]

Everything about Psyker is confusing to me

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

Do things, explode, simple as

[lethal lagoon]

#psyker-class message

[plucky flax]

[manic river]

Funny class indeed

[karmic finch]

The problem is that running forward in the mission causes more spawns.

So if you're under high pressure, some of which are gunners ahead of you, you end up under even higher pressure but with a teammate alone in front

Stealth builds can support the team amazingly, and give room to clutch a game if stuff does go to shit.

But running ahead is usually a bad option.

Especially running ahead in stealth for a rescue. Just fight up to them as 3 and it's so much safer than splitting the party 2+2 (if you even get the res)

[rich spindle]

Hab dreko maelstrom....

Nah

[karmic finch]

I got it on lights out earlier, that was a fun time

[fresh reef]

not sure which melee I wanna use

[radiant frigate]

you ever just get a knife zealot that pulls a daemonhost, dies, says "pussies" and leaves?

[rotund fable]

Twice actually... both times were the same guy in the same day.

On Auric Damnation with randoms

[radiant frigate]

which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice

[rotund fable]

I would say that if it were 2 different people, but it was the same guy both times, and the second time it happened i just opted to block the guy

[marble crater]

I recommend a dueling sword with trauma

[rotund fable]

Dueling sword is a solid psyker weapon all around

high mobility, good head-stab multiplier, good selection of blessings...

[marble crater]

Satisfying to use against mutants

[rotund fable]

It's like if you took the knife and said "you know what, I'm gonna stop running around and just stab you in the face instead"

[fresh reef]

yeah, seems to be the best fit for the build

especially since I'm using shriek without any upgrades

[marble crater]

Kind of a crime, to be honest, the burn from shriek deletes entire hordes

[radiant frigate]

real

[marble crater]

That's how I would change it, still gives you fast BB and same amount of toughness, but removes flayer and battle mediation for horde deleting shriek and generating even less peril when you use BB after using shriek

[rich spindle]

Mettle is a must take for the swirlies

[near bobcat]

This has potential to be good?

[tacit thicket]

Yes

[marble crater]

Yeah, it's not what I would run, just wanted to offer what I think is an improvement while keeping the rest the same

[rich spindle]

Does knife have higher dodge distance than ds

I just ledgeboosted so far woth the ds ot was funny

[cinder moon]

think ds5 has the highest dodge distance

[long wharf]

knife should have lower sprint cost and speed

[next turret]

is good?

[marble crater]

Other than the low quell speed that looks great

[next turret]

have a quell perk

was gift from emperor too didnt have to spend much

only second good gift from emperor ever

[marble crater]

The emperor provides

[next turret]

i think the other was on my zelot but was a knife

i dont like using stelth zealot

[fresh reef]

Hence why I'm not using it

Same reason I'm using a gray trauma. Just because I can

[hollow current]

That staff looks perfect. You got the important stuff locked on in.

[marble crater]

Absolutely heretical

[lethal lagoon]

That blast radius is going to make it harder to pop heads

[next turret]

it pos everything lol

i like it

[lethal lagoon]

[next turret]

i dont really like stffs

cant get a good rifthaven

[lethal lagoon]

You wern't kidding about not liking staves

The fuck is a rifthaven

[next turret]

the smoke staff

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, those aren't too hard to roll.

[cinder moon]

smoke staff lol

[next turret]

im pretty much bored with all the weps tbh

i got a good illisi though

and deimos, i got a good obscurus but...i dont like the obscurus

ive been trying to play gtfo lately