psyker-class

[upper sun]

mk5 has crazy mobility but weird ass animations and low damage

[rigid sky]

And voidstrike, orthodoxy suggests to go either flurry/Nexus or nexus/surge

[potent echo]

Rager maulers gunner bodyshots

[rigid sky]

Consider also Carapace

[potent echo]

Reapers

Flamers lpl

[upper sun]

bruh i am not walking up to a reaper

[rigid sky]

Duelling Sword on a gunker build is your anti-crusher

[stoic thorn]

But voidstrike has the easiest headshot hitbox in the game??

you just play a tall psyker and aim slightly over heads

it was ass when I was min height before changing it though ngl

[fading galleon]

I did make my psyker max-height

[upper sun]

ikno im so bad at aiming but i still do ok with it

[upper sun]

if you're used to ogryn thats not a bad idea

[potent echo]

Average psyker height hours

[upper sun]

real

average height is best for melee

[lethal lagoon]

I have psykers who are both, and being short is awkward.

Just like real life

[upper sun]

yeah i made a very short vet and its like dad pls uppies

[potent echo]

They should make peepee a weakspot

[marble crater]

Next patch we can change it, yay

[lethal lagoon]

Hehe, xbox player

[fading galleon]

and this would work for trauma too?

[stoic thorn]

I downloaded the height slider mod because it was so annoying looking for elites over a horde as a dwarf when I was vet gaming

[lethal lagoon]

Not me who can't even play elden ring because the bastard still stutters for no reason

[upper sun]

i use it for void and surge but for truama i use something else but its less meta i here

[fading galleon]

oh shit I should make curios too. I forgor

suggestions?

[rigid sky]

MGS2 life

[marble crater]

Toughness, health and stamina for infinite blocking

[rigid sky]

It was actually easier to just shoot everyone in the dick in that game tbh

[upper sun]

ive been saying that

[rigid sky]

I think there is an argument for taking health on a psyker

Because of poxburster breakpoint

[fading galleon]

and perks?

[rigid sky]

Without health curios I die to two poxbursters (as in full death)

[fading galleon]

I assume things like toughness regen are superfluous on this class

[rigid sky]

But orthodoxy is toughness

Gunner resist can be good idk

[upper sun]

also the game spawns more poxbursters when you play psyker thats a well known fact

[stoic thorn]

Toughness regen is nice, but you can get by without it since psyker has insanely strong toughness regen

[marble crater]

I use gunner resist, health/toughness and dockets

[rigid sky]

We can shit peril and quell it

[upper sun]

i go toughness combat ability

[potent echo]

Always try for at least 201hp

[stoic thorn]

Gunner resist is ass, only applies to gunners and not the actual CBT machine that are shotgunners

[potent echo]

Since poxbursters do 100 max

[stoic thorn]

Besides just slide spam and gunners arent that bad

[lethal lagoon]

Psyker is grouped up a lot though

[potent echo]

With 25% sniper resist you can get it down to 97dmg or similar

[lethal lagoon]

Plus toughness regen on curios = less need for toughness related talents

[upper sun]

i dont really feel the need for gunners or snipers tbh i dont really have a problem with them

[potent echo]

I will always disagree with thid

[upper sun]

now if they had a perk for 25% damage less from trash mobs

[lethal lagoon]

I don't like Thid either, he's kind of weird, honestly should be banned.

[fading galleon]

I don't have a lot of curios so I'll just roll with 2x hp for now while I git gud I guess

oh sweet melk gave me a +3 stam

[upper sun]

you know about the 75 rating bug right?

[fading galleon]

😎

[upper sun]

nice

[lethal lagoon]

It's not a bug, it's a feature, to prepare you for the general dissapointment you'll feel while crafting.

[fading galleon]

recommended melee weapon to go with trauma?

that dueling sword mb?

[lethal lagoon]

d4 yeah

[upper sun]

man i rolled this shit for zealot https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1226621694525833296/sddefault.jpg

i wish i had it for psyker

[fading galleon]

ok I'll throw some more mats at that and then I have an illisi/surge and ds4/trauma build and I'll call it a day for now. play more first

[rigid sky]

Deimos or DS4

[lethal lagoon]

Account-wide curios when?

[upper sun]

if only

[fading galleon]

what's your trauma build?

[upper sun]

maybe take off a toughness node and wildfire for the rest of warp siphon i changed it to that because i got one shot from something i couldnt see once and i got ptsd

[lethal lagoon]

#1158835513789272126 message

Best Trauma build in the game

[lethal lagoon]

Here's the basic bitch Surge Build

And the basic bitch trauma, with 3 free points cause there's lots of disagreement about wildfire and emphatic evasion and stuff.

[fading galleon]

thanks!

trauma doesnt take 6 warp stacks?

[marble crater]

I guess that's one of the disagreements

I take it

[fading galleon]

I don't want to think too much, just tell me where to shove my points

I see wildfire, empathic evasion and 6 WS stacks being listed as disagreements so I'm taking all three.

[marble crater]

This is what I use

[potent echo]

just take 6 charges, the only time i dont take is to get extra toughness

[vestal fulcrum]

What about the chaotic evil choice

i.e., disregard Warp Siphon

[stoic thorn]

i still wanna know what's the point of xp curious if they werent gonna make curious shared between classes

[vestal fulcrum]

embrace EP (and take some small Toughness nodes while you're at it)

[marble crater]

To level faster

[vestal fulcrum]

[potent echo]

to fill up your curio slots with trash so you waste more resources rolling

[vestal fulcrum]

To increase your invisibly tracked levels faster

[lethal lagoon]

I mean post lvl 30 experience is being tracked

I'm guessing some form of presitge was planned but never implmented

[vestal fulcrum]

There are people with 2000+ levels, they either OTP one character, or use these types of curios to inflate their XP gains exponentially

[stoic thorn]

the ultimate red pill of enjoying darktide in the long run was realizing that I dont have to chase god rolls because I didn't lose my run since my weapon had 5% less DPS.

[vestal fulcrum]

jfc chasing god rolls is the grim dark future of the 41st millenium

[lethal lagoon]

Enemy spawns can snowball and you can definitely lose a run with 5% less dps

[potent echo]

god emperor*

[stoic thorn]

I mean sure, but there's a lot of other controllable factors that have a bigger impact on you winning or losing than going from good/great gear to perfect gear

The difference between a great/demi roll and a bad roll is massive, but the difference between that and perfect isnt

[potent echo]

5% less mobility will cause you to fail your dodge and end all your runs

[lethal lagoon]

true and real

[stoic thorn]

if only I had 5% more mobility my zealot wouldnt have died 37 rooms ahead of me 😔

[wind spruce]

You can't take all three without losing something better, that's why they are disagreements

[lethal lagoon]

If the zealot getting netted across the map and rage quitting wasn't there to provide comedic relief, you would have quit 200 hours ago

[wind spruce]

EE definitely isn't worth it on a Warp charges trauma build

[lethal lagoon]

There's also KD

[vestal fulcrum]

Agreed, it's somewhat inconsistent uptime on it.

[lethal lagoon]

And quietitude

[vestal fulcrum]

I'd consider Quietude to be a requirement on any staff build - it's Soulstealer that is probably situational, most of the time

[wind spruce]

Extremely shit uptime more like it

[vestal fulcrum]

But again, that's just my take on it (Soulstealer v Quietude)

[wind spruce]

1/3 of trauma blasts with 1.3s charge time

[lethal lagoon]

(quietude is a skill check)

[wind spruce]

Quietude over soulstealer since you have crits instantly refilling your bar with trauma

[lethal lagoon]

(a check I usually fail)

[vestal fulcrum]

Trauma definitely wouldn't be the weapon that is benefitting the most of it in a build, so that would leave you with either the melee, or maybe Assail if you went that way, and melee would need crit support to even get into a 'comfort' zone of proccing it every 3-4 swings, if you're lucky (and so would Assail)

[wind spruce]

Exactly

[potent echo]

mettle also counts all targets hit by trauma crit right?

[wind spruce]

Yep

[potent echo]

pogers

[wind spruce]

Hence the refill whole bar idea

[vestal fulcrum]

Mettle is an insane toughness replenishment method, most of the time

[potent echo]

most of the time you want toughness is when nasty shooters are shooting at you from all angles and you have no cover

mettle/soulstealer wont be enough for those situations

[vestal fulcrum]

and/or there are bruisers chipping away at you, menacingly, because these karkers have a toughness damage multiplier

[wind spruce]

You're right instantly refilling your toughness bar is not enough

[potent echo]

when its spread out gunners shooting at you usually theres no horde nearby to trauma at

horde actually helps you not let shooters shoot at you they are pretty cool

[wind spruce]

It kinda will, since the AOE on trauma is so massive. If there isn't enough to hit, you're not under threat anyway. Plus there isn't really a better option...

[karmic finch]

If you have toughness on peril gain and peril lost you can just fill your own toughness by blasting air on trauma

Not so much of an issue imo

[vestal fulcrum]

Peril gain toughness skill has… somewhat terrible scaling

[wind spruce]

Toughness on peril gain is the worst of the four

[vestal fulcrum]

I’d never take it in its current form

[karmic finch]

Also quietude works as you naturally cool down, so if you get peril full, trigger the natural decay, then sprint forward, you will be recovering toughness as you run

[wind spruce]

Yes, varlet

[karmic finch]

Amazing on surge staff as that pumps out so much peril

But take both, or just quietude

[vestal fulcrum]

No, still no, I'd rather take a raw small toughness node, then, if I have access to any

[dense vault]

Hank you do well pairing trauma with assail and DS4

[wind spruce]

This is correct

[dense vault]

there is nothing you can´t rek with that set up

[vestal fulcrum]

Monsters you can't really DPS very well 🤓

[dense vault]

that´s why you poke it in the eye sockets with the sword 😛

[vestal fulcrum]

DS4 helps, but it's not a tremendous amount of damage + you need to hit WS's with it

[dense vault]

but yeah, imagine psyker having boss dps

[potent echo]

best psyker boss dps is melee/gun

[vestal fulcrum]

Purgatus noises
Gun noises

[dense vault]

😭

i don´t want to play a goddamned republican gunwizard as psyker

i wanna kill things with my hell magics

[potent echo]

melee then

[dense vault]

i do have a melee build for psyker using scriers and DD

ran some HISTG with it and it was awesome

literally nothing but melee attacks all map long

[potent echo]

all my builds are melee because psyker melee weapons are bonkers

[wind spruce]

That's literally just a gunker build

[karmic finch]

Purgatus is good (stack burn then melee though), surge is ok in a pinch, void strike needs headshots and even then it's meh (other than it can stagger).

[dense vault]

yeah pretty much is but without the gun go brrrrrt-part

[potent echo]

deimos charge and slide into bonbon's ass

[dense vault]

instead it´s just stab stab stab

[fading galleon]

for trauma?

[vestal fulcrum]

For Trauma, yeah. You sacrifice Shriek uptime/reduction by not having WS keystone, but you get MUCH stronger brainbursts and they’re quicker whenever you have the stacks of EP

I personally don’t like WS Trauma, like, it’s a good keystone, but it makes peril management more complicated and then whatever value you get from stacking WS is lost whenever you Shriek - you don’t really have to worry about that with EP, you just have consistent value for doing Psyker things

[fading galleon]

hmm ok

[wind spruce]

Surely soulstealer with so many warp damage sources

[vestal fulcrum]

And with how the game currently fares, there’s really no need for Psyker to have constant Shriek uptime, unless you want to dominate the scoreboard/need to compensate somewhat for one of the teammates’ lack of horde clear

[vestal fulcrum]

I’m sure it is an option on that build, but I play without it and don’t feel the lack of it heavily

[wind spruce]

Just feel it would outweigh a toughness node

[vestal fulcrum]

One smol toughness node can be sacrificed for it, yea

[fading galleon]

I'll give it a spin

[ornate hamlet]

Soulstealer is goated

[rigid sky]

I even use soulstealer on gunker

and that only has assail as warp damage

[vestal fulcrum]

SS is fine on Assail, as crits with it are still few and far between, whereas kills = consistent

It also supplements Illisi tremendously, with how many potential targets you’re going to cleave in a single charged special hit

[rigid sky]

I transitioned to DS4 for gunker now

After I realised DD/SG pushes its horde clear from poor to good

Better anti-crusher and bulwark, more reliable anti-mutant

Less embarrassing oopsie moments where I forget I'm in SG and empower my sword at 100%

[vestal fulcrum]

more reliable anti mutant

I don’t struggle with one-shorting a passer-by mutants with a well-placed heavy charged hits

But it’s fair, I’m jesting

[rigid sky]

More wind-up on Illisi

[vestal fulcrum]

It does have that, yeah

[rigid sky]

But yeah, DD/SG pushes melee weapons way up

[vestal fulcrum]

DS definitely handles mutants better when under pressure

[rigid sky]

Killing a mutant with a horizontal horde killing swing is a power trip

[karmic finch]

With the disrupt destiny stacks DS4 comes close to one shotting crushers on a crit headshot, 2 shots them reliably

If they have any chip damage from your team it wipes out a crusher pack so fast

[rigid sky]

Yeah, and Crushers are the one thing my CIAG can't dumpster

So it made more sense to me to go DS4

[vestal fulcrum]

Too bad FS hasn't thought about giving Thrust blessing to DSwords

[rigid sky]

And altered my DS4 to +carapace

[vestal fulcrum]

Considering the weapon has... thrusting attacks, you know, it would be fitting.

[karmic finch]

You don't thrust with your hammers?

[vestal fulcrum]

Oh I do, I'm just bothered by FS naming blessings oddly

[karmic finch]

Just imagining the fatshark dev team trying to put up a shelf

And using the top of the hammer for the nails

[rigid sky]

But a fly gets in the way and the entire swing gets wasted on it

[vestal fulcrum]

Imagine giving a charged HAMMER swing more than 0,001 0,01 cleave

Surely it would not have made sense

[karmic finch]

Especially feels bad compared to the v2 hammers and the splendid cleaving horizontal swings

Maxing out knock back to feel like sauron in the flashback scene

[calm sapphire]

Crucis?

[rigid sky]

We have crusher for that now at least :D

[calm sapphire]

Force sword shove range be like

Most ppl don't realize how far u can shove with the force swords

[rigid sky]

It's actually the best part imo

Fuck yo poxbursters

[obsidian ivy]

I want innate power charge on it too!

You telling me warp energy only lasts for ONE swing?

[rigid sky]

pushes them over from half a room away

[quartz barn]

Ngl the extra push range gets me mixed up most of the time

Mfw i push a burster while theyre not primed

[vestal fulcrum]

There is a balancing problem connected with that, as is evident with how Power sword’s entire performance depends on Power Cycler blessing, basically

[quartz barn]

Nowadays i just shoot them, since i hang a bit back anyway

[rigid sky]

Context dependent

[obsidian ivy]

299 on thus damn warp charge achievement

Goddammit

[vestal fulcrum]

But I do think that PS at least would have benefited from having a visible charge system - I’m relatively happy with how force swords perform, or at the very least Illisi (Obscurus and Deimos’ attacks should be reworked IMO)

[rigid sky]

Deimos special is a victim of the H2's strength

[quartz barn]

The animation makes no sense tho

[rigid sky]

Obscurus needs it to kill Crushers iirc

But obscurus doesn't exist anyway lmao

[obsidian ivy]

rubs hand on sword

Locked in place

Love the Obscurus for dumb fun but that animation has gotten me killed more than once

[quartz barn]

Because rn its like a suction while it should be similar to saltzpyres warrior priest's weapons in vt2

[obsidian ivy]

I still remember charging up to hit a trapper with the powers of the Warp charging my blade!

Only to hit a Poxwalker and kill it instead, getting hit by the net and then dying.

[rigid sky]

I mean the Deimos and obscurus are just reskinned chainswords tbh

In functionality

With the special thingy

[vestal fulcrum]

And a different set of blessings

[obsidian ivy]

Not ad satisfying as burying a chainsword into the skull of a crusher

But at the same time

Still cool tho

Personally I've taken to using the MkIV Dueling sword

[quartz barn]

slide

[wind spruce]

Ok trauma with EP assail is bonkers af

Idk how I haven't tried this

[obsidian ivy]

Same as me when I combined purge and BB

Soon as I did, BB became enjoyable to use

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma can never dominate scoreboard anyway.

[marble crater]

Everything the psyker does is warp damage yes? except for melee and guns?

[mighty olive]

Pretty much

[karmic finch]

All abilities are, all staves are, warp fire is

For force swords I think only charged attacks are

[plucky flax]

Only very based players can play without soulstealer.

[marble crater]

Then I am based

[plucky flax]

Apart from you.

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

[karmic finch]

Basically only drop soulstealer if you are playing the very non heretic gun psyker + non force swords build

[vestal fulcrum]

Or… if you don’t feel like you need it to stay alive

[karmic finch]

I usually find psyker has flex points that you're going to be dropping on small toughness nodes or extra toughness replenishment nodes, like soulstealer

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma and surge don't need soul stealer you crit very often mettle is good enough to generate toughness.

[upper sun]

holy shit are some book missions bugged?

i looked everywhere

[vestal fulcrum]

In what way?

[upper sun]

books not spawning

[vestal fulcrum]

You could install a Book finder mod

[upper sun]

cant use mods 😭

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s what I use to save myself the effort

Are you on Xbox?

[upper sun]

geforce now

[vestal fulcrum]

Hm. Unfortunate

[marble crater]

Reroll the book missions

[rigid sky]

also try it with EP rupture

[upper sun]

its 4 books on my second zealot

im just gonna kill myself in consignment yard so i dont have to deal with the peak gameplay that is no curio no weapons level 20 sedation

[marble crater]

Why do you have no curios or weapons?

[upper sun]

because i dont wanna waste dockets on trash

and i only play it for weeklies

[calm sapphire]

Question can newer players under lvl 30 access auric without being invited to one?

[upper sun]

besides idk what sedation is like in your region but 90% of the time its one person speed running and you really dont have to fight anything

no

[rigid sky]

Sedation lmao

That's bizarrely accurate

[upper sun]

idk i like it

[rigid sky]

Not sure if you did that on purpose or if it's a serendipitous typo

[upper sun]

i cant be asked to grind my shitzealot

[fading galleon]

not without being invited to one, I think

[marble crater]

I don't know, after getting my character to level 30 I never play anything under damnation
The few times I did heresy for a penance or two was enough, too boring with the lack of enemies. I can't imagine playing the lower difficulties to farm weeklies

[calm sapphire]

Hmm been seeing alot of under lvl 30 premades in auric recently

[calm sapphire]

U see, the biggest enemy u will face in difficulties under damnation is the randos on your team, not the enemy

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/ojryyE

assail go brrrrrrr

[marble crater]

Just treat them like another modifier

[calm sapphire]

Oh so a solo mission modifier I see

[upper sun]

tru

the sad part is we were doing great until someone barreled the guy in red and i died trying to pick him up

[patent steeple]

btw, am I the only one who hasn't unlocked the Like a Four-Leaf Clover Achievement (get all 4 classes to level 30) just because I refuse to play Smellot?

[upper sun]

yes

[calm sapphire]

My favorite is when a pub triggers DH only for it to come after u next

Usually a death sentence unless I'm using ogryn

[upper sun]

it only kills one now

[calm sapphire]

Wait what

Hmm when did they change that

[marble crater]

Few weeks ago

[rigid sky]

Zealot is amazing lmao

[calm sapphire]

I remember the days when u could grief ur team by triggering DH and use stealth to refocus DH to someone else

[patent steeple]

I mean, I also don't wanna grind gear for a 4th character when I still have yet to get good enough gear/blessings for my Ogryn, Vet and Psyker...

[upper sun]

Sorry was in game

[cinder moon]

universal weapon and curio locker, plz fatshark

[upper sun]

still is

but yeah worst part is when dh aggros

and the person keeps running away so you cant kill it

and you just get toxed

[cinder moon]

i accidentally aggro'd a DH last night by throwing a nuke, wasn't geared to kill it so i just drew it away from the team and let it soul suck me. there was a chaos spawn or something and we were on bridges you could fall off, so i took the L for the team

respawned like 50m away so no big deal

[calm sapphire]

I usually let the idiot who agroed DH to fend for himself

[cinder moon]

i will say, i want to send the black ships for every moron that res's people who are downed in active fire pools so they instantly die

[upper sun]

oh nononono dont let agent see you say that

[karmic finch]

I've messed up with surge staff chaining before, the change that it only kills you is quite nice

Now very sure to only use the primary fire when I hear the whispering

[rigid sky]

I like to try to kill the DH, accidents do happen

[calm sapphire]

Funny stealth rez when surrounded by elites

[rigid sky]

I don't believe in inflicting punishments in a game beyond votekicking

Silly toxic gatekeeping behaviour imo

[cinder moon]

some karking moron rez'd me with 3 maulers around me, i instantly died, then they had the gall to ask in chat "how did we fail"

like, bruh

[upper sun]

real

[cinder moon]

grimoire run

i picked up and consumed both grims in a mission last night so i could un-corrupt my second wound

[karmic finch]

Hold block as you get revived is step one to maybe survive.

Also builds like shout vet are pretty much always good to be picked up unless it's in fire

[upper sun]

real

[cinder moon]

both of those don't work when your toughness is at 0 for the first frame of your rez

and only have 2 wounds with no +HP

[karmic finch]

They should make grim % based, really sucks to lose 1/2 wounds as psyker or vet, while ogryn can just shrug off the penalty

[rigid sky]

Getting put into poxburster 1shot range is hilarious

[karmic finch]

Make it 20% per grim or something

[calm sapphire]

Grims are worthless tho? Low rewards for high risk

[karmic finch]

I mean, also buff that lol

Tomes grant 10% dockets per, grims grant 15% plasteel+diamantine per?

[calm sapphire]

I'd wish grims were placed in a permanent spot like in VT2 and they are in hard to reach spots 😢

[upper sun]

weeklies 😦

[quartz barn]

Not per se, but atleast make them guaranteed rather than a modifier

[calm sapphire]

Just reroll not worth the pain n effort

[upper sun]

for lower level chars its 4 books max

thats not bad

[quartz barn]

They already have multiple spawns so just keep those

[cinder moon]

i like scriptures because seeing 3 rejects holding a book in an elevator while the 4th gets left out is funny

[calm sapphire]

Yeah that'd be nice

[cinder moon]

grimoires can actually be useful, though, if you're on a mission where medicae are relatively sparse and you somehow picked up corruption

just consume and boom, instant corruption removal

[calm sapphire]

Tbh I've never consumed a grim before even after playing DT for 900+ hours

[cinder moon]

so you're the teammate who refuses to consume a grim after being asked

[calm sapphire]

I thrive on corruption as a martyr zealot user

[upper sun]

[cinder moon]

inquisitor, this reject right here

[upper sun]

the reason i started playing zealot was people like that and pox bursters

[cinder moon]

wound zealot doesn't need to be corrupted to get the benefit. picking up grims in pubs and not consuming after being asked is just poor manners

[upper sun]

one guy when i was on vet spammed healing station with grims so i cant use simply because i said weeklies dont matter on damnation

i wish i recorded it for reporting him

[rich jolt]

Marty zealot here. Take your damn medicae

[rigid sky]

Vote kick and block

[cinder moon]

if i notice it's a grim mission on damn and i'm playing psyker or vet, i make a point to find them and consume them

[rigid sky]

Explain in chat why you are votekicking

If the team doesn't agree, leave and block all of them

[upper sun]

ye should have but i just blocked him

and apparently someone else had issues with him in zealot chat

[rigid sky]

Normalise Votekicking Griefing Shitheads

[calm sapphire]

Weeklies are just a side gig tbh

[rigid sky]

(Not people who are bad, but rather people who are actively acutely antisocial)

[upper sun]

no cant play the game until i finish

[cinder moon]

i've only ever votekicked 1 player and voted yes on 1 other votekick

[upper sun]

i only really vote kicked one person

[calm sapphire]

Not like u can get exclusives weps from Milker man himself

[rigid sky]

How many votes does it take to kick somebody BTW?

The person who started the kick and one other?

[calm sapphire]

I assume all 3

[vestal fulcrum]

3,

[rigid sky]

Or does it have to be all 3

[upper sun]

has to be all

[calm sapphire]

Huh?

[upper sun]

all 3 i mean yeah

[calm sapphire]

Btw is there a reason why we don't have a report button in game and have to go through DT website instead?

[upper sun]

laziness

[vestal fulcrum]

There is no system to support reporting in game, probably

[calm sapphire]

Hmm makes sense

Would u say speedrunning a match is considered griefing or no?

[vestal fulcrum]

It depends on whether it’s consensual

If the team agrees, proceed

If you force such approach, then that’s not very nice

[rigid sky]

I had a zealot that started the servitor colony event while the rest of the team was in the second room

They were draining the medicaes and ammo boxes too

Kicked that stupid arsehole :) just get the solo mod if you really wanna play like that

[marble crater]

Speedrunning is not good, being too slow is also not good. Move at a nice pace and it's perfect

[vestal fulcrum]

Or find a team of like-minded individuals

[marble crater]

Help zealots with their flesh wound penance and do something good while speedrunning

[karmic finch]

The reason to build speed is to loot all the side areas, not run ahead 😄

And kite your way to a clutch

[calm sapphire]

Random speedrunner picking up speed to throw an army of elites at u

[cinder moon]

was running void and ds4 with a team i had last night with a plasvet, autogun vet, and a zealot who kept karking leaving me behind. i had to kite multiple hordes by myself. took all my self restraint not to say "well i made it, teammates, despite your presence"

[rigid sky]

Ah, psykerintendent Chalmers, welcome!

[karmic finch]

Honestly the "wade through the enemies" kinda runs are way more fun, gotta have a competent ogryn or two though

Compared to clearing everything each room

Then you really do have to stick together

[cinder moon]

you don't have to clear everything in every room, you just have to make it safe to move at a reasonable pace

annoyingly, a lot of players assume being sanic or being on viscera cleanup detail is the only way to play

[wind spruce]

Why did you lag so far behind, though? If you're the odd one out it's questionable

[cinder moon]

normally i'd agree with that assessment

but they were all speedrunning

[karmic finch]

The trickle of back spawning specials that need your attention can be more than enough to slow you down

[cinder moon]

not horde clearing

[rigid sky]

Psyker gets bogged down very easily

[wind spruce]

Does it...

[marble crater]

Sometimes the rest of the team doesn't notice you are dealing with the second half of a horde and keeps walking forward, it happens

[rigid sky]

If the team just doesn't give a shit and leaves you behind it's a bit shit

It's the slow-walk and charge time on most of our juicy shit

[cinder moon]

i also had slug puppy focus me for no reason and i had to backpeddle a huge amount while two hordes closed in on me, none of them came to assist

[wind spruce]

If it's literally a poxwalker horde there's no need to stop to clean it up

[rigid sky]

Might have been a premade

[cinder moon]

maybe, but i didn't get that vibe

[rigid sky]

Because premades acting as if the outsider players just don't matter are fucking miserable to get stuck with

[cinder moon]

would be nice if there were an icon to tell you if randos were in a fireteam together

[rigid sky]

If you ever play FFXIV and find yourself loading into a dungeon where two players have the same last name, just leave and save yourself the gut ache

[upper sun]

i think i got premades like twice

spent 90% of the mission hitting on the psyker because they pretty much soloed hab dreyko

[cinder moon]

[rigid sky]

Not all premades are toxic but a lot of them are

[upper sun]

as if you wouldnt

[rigid sky]

And if the people in them are toxic, they're worse in a group

[cinder moon]

i could only have a crush on the female fanatic, her accent is too cute

[upper sun]

female savant and female agi zealot are grea

[rigid sky]

Little bit yandere maybe

[cinder moon]

idk what that means

[marble crater]

Other than the female Seer I don't know which voice is which. Which one is the "Naturally"?

[rigid sky]

Like, if she catches you not praying to the Emperor, you're getting an eviscerator shoved up your arse

[upper sun]

french or romanian?

[marble crater]

I don't know

[cinder moon]

i like female savant, but idk if i could crush on her. would definitely be besties though

[upper sun]

love is banned in the imperium

[rigid sky]

I'd get with loose cannon

Either gender

[upper sun]

IM NOT JUST A PRETTY FACE

[cinder moon]

even ogryns know this

[upper sun]

legend

also

are they

bigger?

[cinder moon]

are what

[rich jolt]

[upper sun]

answer the question

[cinder moon]

my psyker is min height, ofc the ogryn gonna look larger

[upper sun]

u made two other things bigger didnt you

[cinder moon]

i'm not saphomet

[upper sun]

ah yeah

well

SOMEONE did

[rich jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-gif-13722871772856055676

[cinder moon]

rannick said you would say that

and then he laughed

a big, belly laugh

[fading galleon]

this cant possibly go wrong.

[rigid sky]

I hope one of you brought a gun

Or you're gonna be there a while if a boss spawns

[rich jolt]

Howd it gooooo?

[jovial juniper]

Technically, a voidstrike will suffice

And I love how they all look like a deranged wizard

[quartz barn]

Imagine 4 psyker hm twins

[potent echo]

4 psyker easiest game

[rich jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-minos-minos-prime-thy-end-is-now-punch-gif-16630674477332190433

[jovial juniper]

When the funny glow ball stunlocks the boss

[orchid shadow]

All Psyker teams are either a disaster right from the get go, or the smoothest run, start to finish. Nothing in-between.

[rigid sky]

Voidstrike feels dogshit on bosses to me

I found LMB into BoN weakspot is surprisingly good though

[upper sun]

sometimes starts as one then ends in another

[cinder moon]

if you're not hitting weakspots, yeah, but void will stunlock fleshbag and plogryn

also chunks slug puppy if you hit the yellow spot

[rigid sky]

I do actually struggle to hit weakspots on bosses tbh

apart from BoN obviously (provided I can get behind it)

[cinder moon]

my favorite is when i haven't attacked slug puppy at all but it focuses me and won't stop, so i have to kite instead of contributing damage

[patent steeple]

btw, I have finally rolled a Voidstrike with Surge, and the staff also rolled dmg vs Flak so I can now just swap the other perk and have a good Voidstrike!

[cinder moon]

a good voidstrike with surge is so fun

hearing it proc like 6 times as it rips through a horde, pure dopamine

[jovial juniper]

Pair true aim with it and you're set

[patent steeple]

I would rather run Warp Battery Warp Charges with it instead of DD tho...

[cinder moon]

i use warp charge gunker build with my void, just have 5% crit chance perk on it

[upper sun]

spawn into a mission
3 pox bursters

ok

i didnt wanna play psyker anyways

[jovial juniper]

Go for it then

[fading galleon]

we won!

there was a really funny moment where one poxburster killed all 3 of my teammates

right before the start of the end event

so I just ran towards the respawn spot instead of activating the servo skull

everyone stepped out of the airlock and a poxburster rounded the corner and killed them all

~~ (they may or may not have been on high corruption because of an earlier incident where I blew up another poxburster in our faces but we dont talk about that)~~

also @vestal fulcrum your build is dope

I sacrificed one toughness node for soulstealer

but otherwise I ran it as is and it was good

[vestal fulcrum]

that’s nice to hear. Have you tried any of the previous recommendations, the ones with Warp Siphon keystone, say, for comparison?

[fading galleon]

yeah I ran that cookie cutter build before

and I agree that the cooldown reduction basically isnt needed, you dont have to spam shriek that fast back to back

and the base cooldown isnt that long anyway

[vestal fulcrum]

25s is bearable indeed, and I for one prefer having stronger Brain Rupture for when it’s needed

[fading galleon]

toss enemies around with a few trauma blasts -> ult -> destroy everything with a salvo of peril-free brainbursts, very fun very strong

[vestal fulcrum]

I’m glad you liked it

[upper sun]

🤔 they do add lines with the hotfixes dont they

We love to see it dont we folks?

[vestal fulcrum]

Not 76 burn

[upper sun]

i am 100% sure if rolled that shit i would get flak 4 nexus 4

because its prebricked

[vestal fulcrum]

But who knows what might happen for whenever the itemisation is altered later this year, maybe there is a chance for it to be good

[upper sun]

nvm

if the burn was higher it would be fine

[vestal fulcrum]

Too bad, but consider keeping it for the better times ™️

[upper sun]

ha if only

yeah my grandkids would love it for patch 19 when we can boost weapon stats

[vestal fulcrum]

Boost, or reroll, or SWAP PLACES of values of two different modifiers

Any of these would be excellent

[marble crater]

All of the above

[dusk void]

Can someone please tell me why I’m struggling in the normal mission board but do well in the auric mission board?

Like, if I can clear an auric mission with few problems, then I can complete a normal mission with ease, but NOOO!!!

[untold niche]

you are getting carried

[potent echo]

Damn

[marble crater]

Or good enough to do your part of the team in auric, but not good enough yet to carry bad teammates

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/kazuya-tekken-kazuya-mishima-love-heart-sugarcoat-gif-314380675521116996

[stuck sinew]

Yeah Auric has higher quality teams in general

[marble crater]

Too many followed the advice that damnation is easier than heresy, because of better teams

[upper sun]

is the normal mission board heresy level by any chance?

[dusk void]

Half heresy and half damnation

[upper sun]

for a run to go well you need like what a total damage of 1.6-1.8 mil damage?

[dusk void]

I assume you use a scoreboard mod?

[upper sun]

even if you regularly do 800k thats only half of what a normal team does

[upper sun]

nope it just what ive seen from most screencaps

[upper sun]

you still need the rest of the team to do something

duos are perfectly achievable but if you wanna solo something you're gonna have to speed run at higher threat levels

[dusk void]

Shit, I’m trying to get my brother-in-law to do some damnation runs with me. He’s very good with the zealot

[plucky flax]

No that's really high damage lol. A normal person do 200-300k.

[upper sun]

i meant 1.6-1.8k overall

[plucky flax]

Hishock yeah I'd say around 1.5 to 1.7m total damage if the mission drags a bit.

If you do it fast in sub 30 mins probably close to 1.2m damage total.

[hollow jolt]

Smite user with 1.2 million damage 💪💪💪

They're trying their best

[plucky flax]

Isn't surge as bad as blaze trauma?

[cinder moon]

surge is great

[cinder moon]

y'all gotta play with me so i can show you how smite/surge be properly done

[willow hazel]

Proper smite/surge is just surge

[potent echo]

Smite surge

[cinder moon]

i don't run scoreboard but on assassination missions i usually end up being the one that crouches in the cutscene when i run smite/surge

[potent echo]

I don't think that means anything

[plucky flax]

It means he's tbag the dude

[cinder moon]

i think it's a top damage indicator

[cinder moon]

but since i don't run scoreboard, hard to say with confidence

[plucky flax]

It's not xd

It's just random.

[willow hazel]

yup just random

[cinder moon]

ah well, confirmation bias strikes again

[dusk void]

Maybe, if I feel like it 😂

[cinder moon]

in any case, smite/surge is a genuinely good combo if you know what you're doing

can't just spam smite or surge all the time, they both have a purpose

[willow hazel]

oh you can 100% spam surge all the timee

[plucky flax]

I spam surge all the time.

It's very based.

[fading galleon]

Having now briefly tried both a good surge and trauma staff at lvl 30, I don't dislike surge but i think trauma is a much stronger weapon

[potent echo]

Surge is the flexi zoom zoom weapon

[willow hazel]

mix in some melee if you want to do some more damage at the cost brain power

[cinder moon]

surge doesn't really require any aiming and jumps through/around objects to get enemies trauma can't deal with

[potent echo]

It can't do the heavy lifting for you

[vestal fulcrum]

You technically can play mostly Surge throughout the match, but whether you use Smite a lot or not may depend on your melee weapon and its horde clearing capabilities

[potent echo]

If you play flexi zoom zoom then surge will keep up with you

[fading galleon]

That's what I use bb for with trauma

And trauma itself does all of the control you'd bring smite for

[cinder moon]

i use a slaughterer+deflector illisi with smite/surge and generally use smite for locking down huge hordes and burning them with creeping flames

[plucky flax]

My illisi surge smite go 80% surge 19% illisi and maybe 1% smite if not even that.

[cinder moon]

i bring illisi just for groups of shooters

[willow hazel]

you don't need to lock down the horde with smite after creeping flames

[cinder moon]

and the occasional melee when i don't have time to quell

[willow hazel]

and surge staff is a top 2 psyker weapon to deal with shooters

[plucky flax]

You should melee the horde with illisi. Way faster than smite.

[cinder moon]

mixed hordes, yes

i'm not talking about crowds of poxwalkers

[willow hazel]

for mixed hordes its better to use a weapon with damage for more PC procs

[plucky flax]

Melee the ragers and maulers too.

[potent echo]

just beat up whatever's mixed inside

[willow hazel]

smite and soulblaze don't trigger PC so you do way less damage compared to just stabbing or surging stuff

[potent echo]

if you beat them up with your magic stick there wont be anything left to take damage from PC

[rich spindle]

I belive smite is only good 1 or 2 times max in a mission

[cinder moon]

if everyone is carrying their weight that's true

can't be counted on in pubs

[plucky flax]

If you want to destroy your fingers you can do blitz cancel surge for memes.

[rich spindle]

I guess it opens up bulwarks

[plucky flax]

Should surge bulwark anyway

[willow hazel]

Usually players smiting in PUGs make the mission way slower. It stops enemies from grouping up which hurts the other 3 players damage

[rich spindle]

Ya

[plucky flax]

Surge gud against unyielding.

[cinder moon]

that's a hallmark of a bad smytker

[vestal fulcrum]

Fun fact, Surge can’t kill green bulwarks from the front

Because they need to be disarmed in order to take damage, otherwise their “shield” just absorbs it

And green Bulwarks can’t be disabled, not without impact % overrides, hence can’t be disarmed by Surge itself

[willow hazel]

TIL why green bulwarks seem so tanky

[upper sun]

🤔

boss damage or overall damage?

[cinder moon]

neither

[upper sun]

lemme see if i have a recording of me glitching the mission to solo the boss

huh

so either if you get the kill credit or do most boss damage you can be the one teabagging him

[potent echo]

is that real

[upper sun]

maybe

i have two instances of me soloing the boss and and i got the teabag in both

[plucky flax]

I've had bot doing the tbag(they didn't do the finishing kill nor most boss damag).

[upper sun]

🤔

anyone wanna test it?

[plucky flax]

Test what?

[upper sun]

about the teabag

actually i can ask someone i know a guy who did like like 200 assassination mission in a row for the frame

[zinc phoenix]

Thank god smite works on the fuckers I hate them so much

[vestal fulcrum]

I don’t think Smite can do it, either

[zinc phoenix]

Broke: “I shall smite the pox walkers for the next five minutes”

Woke: “I shall smite the hammer fatties”

Bespoke: “Need more peril for reee”

[vestal fulcrum]

(Don’t take my word for it, but technically it shouldn’t be possible, unless I’m missing something)

[plucky flax]

You can damage green bulwarks.

With surge

[upper sun]

you can do anything with surge except have fun

[zinc phoenix]

It does stagger them

[vestal fulcrum]

You can, yeah, just not from their “block” angle

[zinc phoenix]

I just need the stagger so I can shank em in the titty

[potent echo]

titty?

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[plucky flax]

Hrm I don't notice green bulwark able to block any surge attack.

[upper sun]

why should they? they just have a little extra stagger resist and hp right?

but its not to boss level stagger resist even then

[karmic finch]

They ignore some stuff that feels like it should stagger them. Like a charged crusher heavy.

[marble crater]

I hope we get Hestia voice lines during missions, she sounds fun

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1225828902036045885/oshid.jpg
VARLET THY DRIP IS LACKING....

[haughty pasture]

Anyone else doing a melee psyker build because they wanna be Lisan Al-Gaib?

[remote bloom]

I am levelling my psyker and going heavy melee playstyle, too vermintide pilled

[willow hazel]

It's kinda sad how many Psykers are afraid of melee

[upper sun]

yeah thats because one trash mob hit is like 20hp

[haughty pasture]

What's actually sad is that Psyker isn't really built for melee

https://tenor.com/d3LogN7eAmI.gif

[rich spindle]

scriers gaze illisi

i feel like toughness on peril gain could be worth it on surge staff

it builds peril so rapidly like SG

[supple sedge]

What is good with gaze?

Lecrticity? Crystals?

[upper sun]

anything can be good with gaze but high peril staves can be hard to use with it and risky

[supple sedge]

Not usin staves then

[upper sun]

or you may not get enough attacks in before you have to quell thus making it not worth while to use it

yeah

most people use guns or melee with gaze

[supple sedge]

Tought they use powers

[upper sun]

though purge is a good option as well because it doesnt produce much peril

gaze works with guns as well

[supple sedge]

Hmm. Oki

[ember solstice]

I’m willing to bet they’re gonna make an epic trailer for every content update they add to this game lmao

[radiant frigate]

kinda trash imo

[cyan willow]

I've had fun with Gaze + Macabian Dueling Sword IV with Rampage Blessing. W+M1 right through hordes with ease and can still use heavies to poke down Maulers and Crushers

[vestal fulcrum]

jfc the gunker

THE GUNKER ™️

Yes I have Ghost 1 on my las pistol, fite me fight Hadron (It's good enough)

Mk10 laspistol is a fun gun to bring

[upper sun]

if it works it works

i still have zero functional revolvers 😭

[obsidian ivy]

I got the pick and mix achievement :D

or penance

[vestal fulcrum]

Well, penance is the name of the game, albeit it used to be harder to get back in the day

gz regardless

[obsidian ivy]

just need this Warp charge penance and I'll nearly have the redacted section neatly wraspped u

well that and

the one that needs a private game

[mental grail]

Gaze w/ columnus iag is legitimately insane

If they don't nerf it this update someone at fatshark is a gunker rat 100%

I don't want them to nerf it is so much fun

[errant pawn]

I did the private game one In 6 minutes. Its super simple with empiwerd psyonics

[untold niche]

Damnation is easier than heresy because many people try heresy too early.

But yeah I feel if you are saying you win more consistently on a5 than on normal 5 you are defo getting carried. He even said

I’m struggling in the normal mission board
He didn't say "why i got less wins" he said "im struggling"

[errant pawn]

Leaving the spelling error cause it made me chuckle to read it. Cringe UwU vibes

[upper sun]

empowuwd psyowonics

[mighty olive]

I have that problem with damnation, lots of newbies, but auric damnation I have better luck with. But I just wanna do normal and chill xD

[dusk void]

First of all, I can pull my own weight on an auric mission. The only reason I’m struggling on a regular mission board is because of my gaming mechanics and bad players. There’s far less enemies on the normal mission board, but happen to get down due to mobs/1 disabler. I don’t get carried on an auric mission and I’m rarely down/dead.

[dusk void]

Just what she said

[mighty olive]

❤️

[dusk void]

And I had very successful clutches on auric missions

[lethal lagoon]

That's pretty old though. Damnation is absolutely the new Heresy in terms of playerbase.

Of course things are pretty atm

But if we are talking a couple months ago, regular damantion absorbed all the people too unconfident/incapable of doing aurics.
And the skill tree buffed every single class like crazy. So there wasn't really anyone getting stuck in heresy/damn anymore.

I mean yeah, if you can outright carry a game, do duos without much issue, then the playerbase doesn't matter. And it's not like most of us were ever saying heresy is "hard" just that the experience can absolutely feel harder, and it definitely will be harder in the context of a newer player.

[rocky yarrow]

wait is gaze actually good? last time i checked (a long time ago) it was trash

[lethal lagoon]

For guns, it's the best option.

Pretty much always has been.

There's some fun to be had with staves and melee with gaze, but in terms of actual builds it's for the mk5 and laspistol.

[rocky yarrow]

but why would you run guns?

i ❤️ wizarding about

[lethal lagoon]

No reason

Columbus Mk5 with Gaze and Assail is easily one of the most fun playstyles though

You are still spamming assail alot

Very space wizard fantasy

[rocky yarrow]

well i do have 2 free loadout slots i suppose

i dont like assail that much because its kinda a crutch

[lethal lagoon]

In this case, assail is ammo economy.

[rocky yarrow]

i havent touched it since early wizard days

[lethal lagoon]

Your main tool is columbus mk5

[rocky yarrow]

i mean

imo the melee weapon is the main weapon but that jsut speaks to my playstyle

[mighty olive]

Did they change assail with one of the hot fixes? Cause I swear it seems like they're more spread out now and don't go as far with left click

I've noticed this for maybe the last monthish

[lethal lagoon]

I didn't see any lang about assail.

[mighty olive]

Me neither, maybe it's a bug, I'll have to go back and look through notes

Just feels a bit different

[lethal lagoon]

They made a change a while go where assail follows your aiming better, maybe you never noticed?

At least I think they did

[mighty olive]

Hmm maybe. I feel like it used to kinda shoot straight out, now when ya throw its kinda roaming more before it hits

I'll have to look through and see if it's mentioned

[rigid sky]

Gundalf actually plays really well, it's very unstable and powerful. I love it but it can be stressful lol

It's fun being able to dumpster literally anything through raw dps

[rocky yarrow]

Funny

I may be out of spell slots but I'm not out of options

[rigid sky]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9bc4fe2b-0d27-4024-a1c9-43dc4ed7afa4 try this

Duelling Sword is surprisingly good at trash clear with DD and SG

And it brains Crushers which are the only thing your gun doesn't murder

[whole merlin]

I’ve been experimenting with parry warp charge on block slaughter

It doesn’t stagger, so you can swing a ton faster with less cleave, and I’m not using overcharge for anything else

Can’t remember what it’s called the overcharge/mana/boomy juice on psyker

[jovial juniper]

Peril

[radiant frigate]

so, kinetic deflection with devil claw

is what i am reading

[ornate hamlet]

Katiskaten no

[cinder moon]

kati staken

[timber bolt]

WHICH IS THE GOOD DUELONG SWORD

[ornate hamlet]

THE MARK 4 IS VERY GOATED

katiskaten
🐈
🛹

[scarlet bear]

what i seen gun psycher as

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/840359719226310686/1227359795468701777/IMG_6441.webp?ex=66281ee2&is=6615a9e2&hm=2f8de7b76ea084f7a958806644773a14c45c8a87e437a53fdda8d050bc84eb16&

sorry XD

[lethal lagoon]

MARK 4 IS DEFINITELY THE BEST ONE. IN TERMS OF MOVE TECH, MARK 5 IS BETTER. IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH YOU ARE ACTUALLY USING IT AS A WEAPON VERSUS AN OH SHIT IM TRAPPED TOOL.

[untold niche]

Purely on the discussion about heresy vs damnation:
i was levelling and felt heresy bump the most
alot of people play it as soon as its available, where not only do you get BP-gated noticeably, you don't even have your ult.
when i was levelling my vet recently i pushed heresy because i wanted to level fast so i was defo getting carried there , mainly because of those two reasons.

As for damnation:
iirc last time i played, at worst i got was 4x crusher without big horde, that i feel is defo soloable if you are at the standard at aurics where you aren't just not dying (i.e. making contribution)

[tawny kernel]

which one of these is my best? or has the best potential?

[lethal lagoon]

380 Surge is the best by far

[hollow current]

Terrifying barrage tho 😔

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah you just change it to nexus.

The ranged critical hit damage isn't great, but out of the three it's still the best.

Those are almost BiS stats on the surge too

Just move 1% from crit bonus to damage and it's literally perfect.

[tawny kernel]

👍

[lethal lagoon]

The purg isn't awful, just make sure you change the 10% ranged crit hit damage to flak.

The way crit damage is calculated in this game makes crit damage perks super mid.

Still when it comes to the surge, the terrfying barrage is the bigger problem, so definitely put nexus instead.

[mighty cipher]

Sub 76 burn. Dogshit guaranteed. No arguments.
The overwhelming majority of you damage is achieved via soulblaze.
Warp resistance and damage can literally be at 0%. But 76%+ on burn is non-negotiable.

I didn’t even notice run&gun on my first pass. Scrap that immediately.

[near wyvern]

Mk4

[mighty cipher]

Howdy Pygex

[rich spindle]

run n gun actually useful on purg

[near wyvern]

No. Learn to QC sprint slide.

@rich spindle

Outdated video but these techs haven't changed

https://youtu.be/zcINF72qAdY

The only weapon which could benefit from run n gun is the mg X heavy laspistol but the blessing doesn't exist for it

[rich spindle]

thats cool but i like just doing it normally

[rose lily]

MAN the columnus V is a melter with scrier's gaze (gun psyker mode)

[lethal lagoon]

When are you reaching max stacks

I'd personally never use a purg without 76 burn and 80 cloud, but at the same time, the actual effect on gameplay is minimal.

Same thing with Flurry, when are you reaching max stacks?

[mighty cipher]

Ragers and maulers. And bosses I guess.

[mighty cipher]

Literally every time I use it?

[lethal lagoon]

Better question, do max stacks matter for literally anything other than bosses? Kill speed is likely almost the exact same

I don't.

[rich spindle]

ive tried stacking purg on bosses but I didnt notice the health bar moving that fast... :/

[lethal lagoon]

Or if I have max stacks it's after I'm done

[mighty cipher]

Okay, I will admit that I got a little carried away with the 76% thing.

[lethal lagoon]

In what scenario are you using a purg right click 5+ times?

Flurry is mid

On purg

It's still BiS

Cuase there's literally nothing else

But it's not impactful

Unless you are a scoreboard , lots of this stuff doesn't actually matter.

Which I assumed he wasn't based on his weapons.

Know your audience

[mighty cipher]

Two sub full charges into a max duration blast. Then just keep chaining. Your teammates can go anywhere else because that cardinal direction simply isn’t an issue anymore.

God forbid there be a major choke point that you can actually just AFK with your RMB held down.

[lethal lagoon]

Once death stacks are achieved your time is better spent elsewhere unless you're are scoreboard

(I'm also scoreboard )

[mighty cipher]

Death stacks?

[lethal lagoon]

As in the number of soulfire stacks to kill an enemy

[mighty cipher]

Oh

[lethal lagoon]

1-2 rmbs kills pretty much everything.

[mighty cipher]

Yeah, but when shit doesn’t stop comin you can keep on goin

[lethal lagoon]

Situations where you are really purging at max flurry stacks and that's the most effective thing to do are extremely rare(just to be clear, this is an auric mael discussion).

[mighty cipher]

It takes like 5 seconds tops to get to max flurry stacks?

[lethal lagoon]

Unless you are short casting rmb 4 times in a row, that's not even close to true.

And that's not going to be the most effective thing to do in most cases

[mighty cipher]

Also, where’s the 5 stacks figure coming from? It’s 3 max? What.

[lethal lagoon]

5?

[mighty cipher]

Mild miss-interpretation apologies.

[lethal lagoon]

God I haven't played in like 2 months, I forget it's 3 stacks.

Anyway, you don't have full flurry till the 4th cast

Which is what I meant by 5

[mighty cipher]

Ah, okay.

Also got sucked into Helldivers I take it?

[lethal lagoon]

[mighty cipher]

[lethal lagoon]

[mighty cipher]

I still prefer the Darktide’s core mechanics and level of precision. But gyatt dayum, is Helldivers goated.

[lethal lagoon]

If you actually care, I'd recommend recording a full game with Purg and checking how often you are at max flurry stacks.
This dicussion is kinda pointless though cause Flurry is BiS anyways lmao

Helldivers is the answer to what darktide is missing

[mighty cipher]

Fair enough.

[lethal lagoon]

If they copy the global war stuff, darktide could get goated.

[mighty cipher]

Actually

[lethal lagoon]

Like the whole thing darktide is missing is that there is 0 end-game other than OCD-fueled loot mechanics

Where as Helldivers has basically no dopamalurgic mechanics and yet is addicting as fuck

[mighty cipher]

Actually

[lethal lagoon]

And I mean that is literally what we are doing

Liberating shit

[mighty cipher]

I’m also starting to think that this is a simple difference in play style. I’m very much a ”This is MY space and you can fuck RIGHT OFF” kinda person with the purg staff. I full send to using it when I pull it out.

I got my funny fire sword for “””self defense””” and BR for anything that doesn’t die to the fire, wether it’s because lmao carapace or out of range.

[lethal lagoon]

Overkills make my brain upset, so I avoid em

You don't run d4 with purg?

Poky poky crusher?

[mighty cipher]

Nope. And I catch shit for it every time.

[lethal lagoon]

[mighty cipher]

Illisi Bloodthirsty BLAZING SPIRIT

[lethal lagoon]

🤮

[mighty cipher]

I’m That Guy

Funny fire sword my beloved

[lethal lagoon]

I want flame sword to work, I have a BiS flame sword I rolled. It just makes me....

🤢

[mighty cipher]

There’s one noteable upside to using Bloodthirsty at least. It made me realize that Purgatus has really good crit synergy, so I swapped a few points out for that.

[lethal lagoon]

Crit giving double soulfire stacks is a cool mechanic.

[mighty cipher]

I can easily get like 70% of my toughness back per second by just charge spamming.

[lethal lagoon]

Darktide has lots of cool stuff.

[stuck sorrel]

helldivers has no true melee gameplay - noty

[mighty cipher]

Also. I made an absolute menace of a melee psyker using a bloodthirsty Illisi

[lethal lagoon]

Darktide is the best FPS melee game that's ever been made, so I don't even care if other games have melee, what's the point

Not the best at other stuff, but melee... god. Prior to this game I'd say FPS melee combat will always be mid.

[mighty cipher]

100%

[plucky flax]

Make darktide melee only game.

[mighty cipher]

Behold! My beloved Purgatus schmoptimal build.

[lethal lagoon]

Have tencent buy a larger share of fatshark and then sell the melee system to other companies

[vestal fulcrum]

It makes you green with envy, because you can't cast away the shackles of the min-maxing gamer brain

(for sure)

[mighty cipher]

Wait shit. That toughness bode at the bottom is supposed to be Kinetic Flayer.

[lethal lagoon]

no 5% crit?

schmoptimal

[mighty cipher]

I forgot that that’s what that node was

Or did I?

I may have intentionally forgone it by virtue of the Purgatus already critting out they ass, and my sword getting guaranteed crit chains.

+BR can’t crit

[lethal lagoon]

If your build doesn't look like this, don't even speak to me.

[mighty cipher]

That’s what I call a slab right there

Also, Kinetic Flayer is a good talent. I will not be hearing otherwise. Reasoning? Funny super duper crit go crunch.

[lethal lagoon]

Looks like you have to mute yourself

[mighty cipher]

Mute me yourself coward

[lethal lagoon]

I mean you didn't take kinetic flayer

[mighty cipher]

Right

Miss-input I swear

[lethal lagoon]

[mighty cipher]

Counter argument!

[rose lily]

yah scier's gaze seems made for gun psyker

[lethal lagoon]

Sure is.

[mighty cipher]

That’s a pussy take. That shit is made for BLAZE TRAUMA for people who ain’t BITCHES

[torpid girder]

remove toughness entirely and replace it with a new system... maybe like... since you'll be taking more health damage you get some kind of temporary hp back >:)

[lethal lagoon]

Avg player heals 3 times per game. So just make HP 3 times higher and remove healing

Genius game design

[mighty cipher]

I definitely don’t blow myself up four times on the walk over here alone.

[lethal lagoon]

Blaze Trauma without Flaming Shriek is just Trauma

[plucky flax]

Shred blazing spirits better. Your crit special would kill stuff too fast.

[mighty cipher]

Since when was killing stuff too fast a problem?

[torpid girder]

i hope when fatshark releases weapons with stats above 80% that mod bugs out and it just extends the yellow bar past the max

[plucky flax]

Blazing spirit doesn't work on kill hit.

[mighty cipher]

F U C K

That’s mildly inconvenient

[torpid girder]

i f u think about it.... theenemy doesnt need fire stacks if they're dead >:)

[mighty cipher]

I don’t even need to think about it. That’s actually just factually correct.

[lethal lagoon]

The mod might automatically change to 100%

[plucky flax]

Blazing spirit on sword should be aoe fire.

Not single target.

[lethal lagoon]

Stack upper limit should be the global limiit for force sword

[potent echo]

Rework toughness to be like payday3 armor

[torpid girder]

okayi take back what i said then

[plucky flax]

Doesn't proc on dead enemy and single target hamper it too much.

When you can use blaze trauma and set everyone on fire in a 1km radius.

[potent echo]

Blaze trauma is weak though

[plucky flax]

Tru

I just meant it set people on fire.

It's very bad.

[torpid girder]

it would maybe be good if it just applied soulblaze every hit instead of just on crits and it had t4 of blazing spirit... maaaybe...

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like the AoE for Blazing Spirit on Force Sword should be about this small.

[torpid girder]

That small?? for a melee weapon??

[lethal lagoon]

It's tiny

[torpid girder]

are u trying to make it underpowered

[lethal lagoon]

Blaze Trauma needs a range buff

[plucky flax]

I agree. Right now blaze trauma seems useless. I can never crit and t3 blazing spirit is so bad.

[lethal lagoon]

I mean we gotta start small

[torpid girder]

that's trueee

[plucky flax]

I've yet to see anyone actually do anything meaningful playing it.

[lethal lagoon]

I got stuck doing Auric Mael duos with this one guy using blaze trauma, it was basically a solo match

I'm tired of people using Blaze Trauma honestly, it needs a buff or be removed from the game

[plucky flax]

Bet you carried his ass.

[lethal lagoon]

I literally put the whole country on my back and walked to Mars.

[plucky flax]

[torpid girder]

Honestly if ur running a blaze trauma with shriek u might as well just bring a laspistol instead

[lethal lagoon]

I'll take an Ogryn with a Paul and 2 Stealth Dagger Zealots over a Blaze trauma user any day of the week.

Any day of the year

Any day of the entire existence of the universe.

[untold niche]

atlas, you know you have that picture of the blaze trauma aoe in psk right

i wanna ask stoopid question

how is it that big

cause i remember the blaze trauma aoe indicator isn't that big

or is the aoe indicator not representative

[lethal lagoon]

Indicator is the epicenter

[untold niche]

meaning max damage?

is the non epicenter damage falloff to some scale or just binary

atlas come bek

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-disappointed-sad-frustrated-facepalm-gif-17732698

[lethal lagoon]

I think it's just binary

[untold niche]

will all those zombos die

[lethal lagoon]

6 stacks kills all mobs, so no.

Need 2 crits

[untold niche]

i see, so if you crit twice under your feet, those zombos die?

[lethal lagoon]

But I mean you get 2 crits, flaming shriek, you are basically Purging but better.

Zombie mobs die, so do brusiers with 2 crits/6stacks.

[untold niche]

goddam

[lethal lagoon]

6 stacks should kill

Brusiers

And shooters

[untold niche]

mean you don't even have to aim

just boom boom

https://tenor.com/view/baboon-monkey-shocked-jaw-drop-surprised-gif-5498438

[lethal lagoon]

To be clear, that was all a lie to trick you into playing blaze trauma and realize how bad it is

[untold niche]

agent never showed me this

this is even more brainless than void wtf

[lethal lagoon]

Blaze Trauma bad

[untold niche]

BT going to get nerf a real bad

[lethal lagoon]

I mean it's already unusable

So you might as well nerf it

What difference would it make

But if you want to bring balance back to the force, Blaze Trauma needs a huge buff.

I mean look, almost no one uses it.

It has to be bad

[untold niche]

psyker opee class

opee class for people with 5 braincell

vet opee class for peepoo with 1 braincell

[rich spindle]

illisi bloodthirsty my beloved

[rigid sky]

Everyone says that's bad but I like the Mettle synergy

It's kinda like Power Cycler 3 at home

[rich spindle]

charged up heavy 1 swing into horde 🤤

[karmic finch]

Soulblaze is a meme against everything but monsters (if you have a way to stack a lot) and chaff

[lethal lagoon]

That's right, blaze trauma is not good.

[karmic finch]

And purgatus is inferior to blazing shriek and any other staff

Don't take the 2 other burning perks they are bad

Burn spreading is the least useful node on the tree for psyker, because it might fool them into thinking that burn builds are good

[marble crater]

Surge is also not good?

[karmic finch]

Surge my beloved he didn't mean it.

You take that back

Surge is fine, it's not op, but it's fine

I just main it because it's fun

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is OP relative to the skill and effort required to use it.

You literally just spam right click and F.

[karmic finch]

The amount of peril it generates is a bonus in terms of toughness gen, and running venting shriek for horde clear makes use of it

Defo use shout on cool down rather than holding it for when you pop though

Just get good at peril management and surge gets way better

[marble crater]

So purgatus bad, trauma bad, surge okay.
Fatshark please buff all the staves

[lethal lagoon]

Just to be clear, blaze trauma being bad is a meme. It probably ranks in the top 3 best DPS weapons in the game.

I mean, cough cough, it's shit.

👀

Also purg isn't bad, it's just the worst staff, which are all OP weapons.

[compact cargo]

Why use blaze traum