psyker-class

[untold niche]

can 2 tap

but i can't rmb

[radiant frigate]

so far i think the only weapons that mave my seal of approval are illisi and power sword VI

[untold niche]

disregard the 2 tap thing, but you can still kill crusher pretty reliably

and its safe because aoe stun

[plucky flax]

Zealot knife and speed run the map.

[weary crane]

I think I'm getting retina damage

[stuck sinew]

The RTX experience

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blind-flashbang-light-mode-gif-21281004

[upper sun]

yeah thats why i stopped playing purge

stopped playing truama (before i really started) because its hearing damage

[weary crane]

I dont play with mods but there must be a way to make it invisable

[thorn cedar]

Did you know there are people who leave Bloom on?

Pretty wild.

[upper sun]

disable everything

[thorn cedar]

We all have that one friend who loves motion blur because 'cinematic'

[upper sun]

no we dont

[stuck sinew]

Have you tried the volume slider?

[thorn cedar]

You do. You just don't know.

[upper sun]

my volume is fine for everything else

[marble crater]

We stop being friends with them, so no we don't

[wet belfry]

Im probably playing with motion blur on

Didnt bother changing settings beyond raytracing.

[upper sun]

we're not friends 😭

[fathom totem]

If you don't like getting blinded by the sun in real life. Why in game?

[thorn cedar]

It's on by default, as it is for most games.

I've been tepidly shopping for a new GPU and honestly, RTX seems like a total waste.

So I might actually go AMD and relish in the savings.

[fathom totem]

Only game that I find bloom acceptable is cyberpunk.

Gives that neon cyberpunk feel.

[thorn cedar]

Bloom to me was only acceptable inbetween the years 2004-07. We had that shit on EVERYTHING.

Look at Oblivion screenshots. It's fucking hideous lmao

Everything looks moderately radioactive at all times.

[plucky flax]

I do. I have lens flare and bloom on with ray tracing.

[wet belfry]

I dont find raytracing worth the perfomance hit

[thorn cedar]

Do you play with gamer glasses on

[plucky flax]

I have 4090 so no performance hit for me. Frame gen op.

[thorn cedar]

Yeah there's no way RTX justifies the price of a 4090 imo, only the notion of future proofing it does.

[wet belfry]

Ah nvm i actually seem to have motion blur disabled

[thorn cedar]

But that's yknow. My finances anyway.

[wet belfry]

Bloom isnt

[plucky flax]

When 50s series get released my 4090 will become old tech.

They gonna do some exlusive 50s feature.

[fathom totem]

Which is bullshit.

[thorn cedar]

Yeah I might just wait for the 50s to start being released to see some price drops

[thorn cedar]

But I'm dubious I'll buy even a 40 series.

[plucky flax]

I agree. But they know people would shill out money for latest gen.

[wet belfry]

Seems to be locked to 1366*768 right now.

[plucky flax]

(Like me)

[fathom totem]

cries in 3080.

[plucky flax]

I used to have 3090 and the lack of frame gen annoyed me so bad.

[thorn cedar]

This 1080 is just so fucking difficult to upgrade meaningfully lol

Without busting my bank account.

[fathom totem]

If you have the disposable income sure why not.

[plucky flax]

Tried to play cyberpunk without frame gen and it was bad.

So much stutter and low fps dip.

[fathom totem]

Having 3 kids and having a watch hobby as well is a no go for me. :p

[plucky flax]

Oh rolex >> 4090.

[upper sun]

just disable all the useless crap should run fine without it

[plucky flax]

No I only play games in max settings.

[lyric burrow]

Valid

[plucky flax]

I'd rather blind myself than getting competitive advantage.

[lyric burrow]

Blinding stuff ill turn off

[fathom totem]

Each there own.

[lyric burrow]

But like hdr/textures and all that im turning up

[potent echo]

bloom 🤮

[lyric burrow]

Yeah bloom and motion blur go off

[fathom totem]

Everything is preference at the end of the day.

[potent echo]

unless you play HD2 and you cant see the gunship engines because of bloom

[upper sun]

reminder that motion blur was made for consoles to to reduce frame loss on quick movement

[lyric burrow]

I do actually have some stuff turned down on dt so i can get closer to my refresh rate

[lyric burrow]

If one of those lights is above a terminal i cannot see the screen lol

When doing objectives

[thorn cedar]

To mask frame loss*

It doesn't reduce it at all lmao

[upper sun]

ye

you get what i mean

[thorn cedar]

It's such a silly thing.

[plucky flax]

I only use motion blur in racing game to make it feel fast.

Fps or 3rd person with motion blur make me dizzy.

[lyric burrow]

It just looks awful to me

Ill take the frame loss if im losing frames on quick movements but i don't think i am ngl

Might be fine on racing games dont play those really

[upper sun]

full 3rd person gameplay when????????????

[plucky flax]

Wut?

[thorn cedar]

I'd rather get used to the dips than have the image smear. Especially if you're using frame gen, since both together basically makes your graphics an impressionist painting.

[lyric burrow]

Yeah

[upper sun]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/111

FULL 3RD PERSON GAMEPLAY

[lyric burrow]

I should try just running dt natively

See how it does

[plucky flax]

https://youtu.be/bms7mTnXu88

[thorn cedar]

I have it native at 1440p on my 1080

So it should be totally achievable.

[plucky flax]

3rd person mod in dt has weird lighting.

It's so dark.

[lyric burrow]

Mines 1440p on a 7900xt but not native atm

It is nice for my refresh rate on my new monitor, but it should run fine regardless

Never tested

[upper sun]

very based gameplay

i bet at the end it was zero weakspot hits

[plucky flax]

I hit weakspot on crushers.

[upper sun]

must hard to aim in 3rd person

esp with melee

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah harder to headshot.

[radiant frigate]

meanwhile running with a 970

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/762624017168728065/1211258859918991400/rat-57.gif

[plucky flax]

Surprised it can run this game.

[potent echo]

970, the old 1080

[upper sun]

nvidia doesnt make them like it used to

[radiant frigate]

pc built in 2015

only upgrades have been 8 -> 16gb ram and a 1tb SSD

[potent echo]

Surprised you can even find ddr3 ram

[upper sun]

you can find everything still

[thorn cedar]

I had a 970 before this 1080, too. Total workhorse, did me great for about six years.

[radiant frigate]

in other words, lmao to all the people saying "i don't have 5k to drop on a pc so i like console"

[thorn cedar]

Yeah like there's a reason I'm ultimately ignoring nVidia cards this time around.

[potent echo]

If you walk into a shop ofc they will only sell you 5k PCs

[thorn cedar]

2-600 extra dollars for RTX only? Nah.

[upper sun]

yeah had the same argument with a friend a few times

also nvidia is kinda scummy with how they locked fram gen out of 3080 cards

even tho it can do it

meanwhile amd is enabling fsr for even older nvidia cards

[potent echo]

Copium for FSR framegen

[upper sun]

NUH UHHHHHHHH

[potent echo]

It can't be that bad...

[thorn cedar]

You don't want frame gen at all, that's the thing.

Like imo you should be turning down ALL your graphics settings before you ever touch frame gen.

[upper sun]

you need it when the 40s series has less Vram

[thorn cedar]

And at that point I'd rather just admit the game isn't going to run.

[potent echo]

I'll give it a try when a game I play has that option but from what I see online is very scuffed

[thorn cedar]

Like HD2 I can run 4K, if I use frame gen. But it looks like a hot oily mess of shit.

[upper sun]

someone actually soldered extra vram to a 30s series card and it worked just fine

[thorn cedar]

Yet I know there are people who use frame gen while cranking the grapics settings just to hit 144hz while still claiming to be 'maxing it out', I guess just to say it?

Like I dunno man.

[potent echo]

You mean like desoldered the existing vram and replaced with better ones?

[thorn cedar]

Frame gen is an absolute last resort.

[upper sun]

yup

[thorn cedar]

I guess if you're playing on a TV from 12 feet away or something it's not that bad.

But it still begs the question for me.

[potent echo]

But the shadows are less jaggy 🥒 💦

[wet belfry]

Unless AMD actually bring their prices down its pointless to buy them right now

[marble crater]

I'm about to test Assail, what did we settle on to be better now, DD or EP?

[wet belfry]

Im looking at upwards of 100$ more for the same performance with less features on amd cards right now.

current prices pretty much is 540$ for a 6700xt or 370$ for a 4060.

[thorn cedar]

uh, yea

thats cause one is a 12gb card

and the other is a budget teardown of a 1,200 card

it's literally the opposite price point in my area for both

($100 less for a 6700 vs. a 4060)

and it doesnt matter cause they havent had 4060's in stock for months lol

[radiant frigate]

if assail is your main weapon probably EP, if you also use other things DD

[thorn cedar]

DD is frankly strictly better. EP only 'wows' when you're doming back-to-back Elites, which, while can happen often enough in Aurics, still isn't nearly the uptime/impact of 15 30s DD stacks or 30 15s DD stacks

[plucky flax]

Just dunk on elites.

[thorn cedar]

yeah like that

you can only really do that with EP

but like, 10/13 assail shards with 15/30% damage boosts + the headshot bonus will also do stupid work, and then you still have those bonuses for your melee and ranged

[broken carbon]

i have yet to make a build with DD

any recommendations

[thorn cedar]

anything really

[radiant frigate]

30 stacks 15s never happens

it isn't real

[thorn cedar]

oh its real

its just not a 100% uptime thing

[radiant frigate]

so it is not real

[plucky flax]

I can't keep 15 stacks with 30s cd.

[broken carbon]

does it decay like warp charges or all at once

[thorn cedar]

not really gonna dignify that

[radiant frigate]

all at once :)

[thorn cedar]

all at once

[broken carbon]

damn

awesome alert

[radiant frigate]

what are the chances you will even go beyond 15 stacks with 15s timer

[thorn cedar]

if you dont put in the two extra points to hit the 3 stacks on a headshot, i wouldnt bother

[radiant frigate]

consider it

[thorn cedar]

uh, almost every lasting fight

most mid events

i usually only lose it during elevators or random lulls

[radiant frigate]

i would rather have the reliability of 30s

[thorn cedar]

but i still rather have the -- yes

[radiant frigate]

can it happen? absolutely

[broken carbon]

lmao

jinx

[radiant frigate]

however, statistically unlikely

[thorn cedar]

no its pretty likely

[plucky flax]

It's too hard for me.

[thorn cedar]

you dont even have to hit 30 stacks, anything above 15 is a strict bonus in the current fight

[plucky flax]

Ep is just there every time there are elites.

[thorn cedar]

dont overthink it lol

[radiant frigate]

👍🏻

[broken carbon]

opinions on brain burst EP

[radiant frigate]

pretty comfy

[thorn cedar]

the big thing to me is that you only hit a couple extra breakpoints with 30 stacks on a handful of weapons

the 15 is already plenty

so it doesnt serve that much of a purpose other than to flex

[broken carbon]

yah i run it on columnus gunker

[radiant frigate]

i suppose the node is called perfectionism for a reason

[broken carbon]

really the best solution to armor

[radiant frigate]

i assume you run illisi then

[broken carbon]

illisi/deimos with uncanny is good too tho

[broken carbon]

yarp

[radiant frigate]

fair

[broken carbon]

illisi with uncanny can kill crushers it just

takes a while

[upper sun]

so can a purge staff

[broken carbon]

okay well i’m talking about like

within the human lifespan LMAO

[upper sun]

ah well then use the special

[broken carbon]

would that actually be faster

[upper sun]

who knows

[thorn cedar]

most of my builds are some variation of this

[broken carbon]

saving for when i get to my pc

[upper sun]

DD bad stop having fun

[broken carbon]

if i die its ur fault

[thorn cedar]

i am psychologically lost if i dont have the game mark bluebois for me to kill

[broken carbon]

is that more for a gunker build

[thorn cedar]

deimos/laspistol is how i do

[broken carbon]

kk

[thorn cedar]

you can honestly just do whatever

[upper sun]

it can work on staves but its best for guns

[thorn cedar]

anything with high finesse numbers dramatically benefits

[broken carbon]

columnus time

[wet belfry]

The ideal psyker build

[thorn cedar]

a boring build for DUMDUMS

live on the edge and GAZE into the ABYSS

[wet belfry]

Im already gazing into the abyss

[upper sun]

unlucky for some

[thorn cedar]

feel ANXIETY whenever you hit 90% like a REAL PSYKER

also yeah wtf

how are you skipping One With The Warp

[wet belfry]

The damage done by warp rapture will send anyone to the abyss

[upper sun]

no no you dont get it whenever you need toughness just barrel your teammates

[thorn cedar]

teamwerk

[radiant frigate]

current objective: declare total war on the Blue Man Group

[thorn cedar]

tbh i just dont do left tree because thats bascially launch psyker and i had enough of that over a year

[radiant frigate]

"oh look, new talents" ends up playing bb/shriek

Huh.

[wet belfry]

Best of all i can use this build on a phone, play the game

[thorn cedar]

EP is also super passive, not much to think about in terms of gameplay

and i hate what they did with warp charges

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[thorn cedar]

namely the consuming them on ult for CDR

[wet belfry]

I just have to pay 5$ to unlock ammo refreshes

[thorn cedar]

i really fucking wish that was a node i could opt into

[upper sun]

were brainrot maxxing over here

[radiant frigate]

we HATES it

[thorn cedar]

because losing all my damage stacks as soon as i hit F is not what i consider a great play

[wet belfry]

Unironically i probably could manage to get the game to be played on the phone

Whether that is the ideal gaming environment is debatle.

[upper sun]

you can actually stream it on your phone if you use geforce now and link a controller to your phone

i should try that at some point

[rigid sky]

WS damage boost is a bonus

the real strength is the CDR anyway, at least if you're shriek

[thorn cedar]

doesnt work with gaze at all

[rigid sky]

eh

[thorn cedar]

and i still wouldnt want it

[rigid sky]

yeah just don't take it then lmao

if you're gunker you wanna be dd anyway

finesse all the way

[thorn cedar]

shriek at least kind of makes up for the warp resistence loss with its own node

but why would i want to lose all my damage and warp resist when i bubble?

everything is chaos rn, i need fucking damage

[upper sun]

NOOOO MY GIFT

[thorn cedar]

so again, i would be fine with the CDR if it was something you opted into it modify warp stacks

but its baked in, and i fucking hate that

[marble crater]

Thank you, never tried DD so I guess it's time to do that

[rigid sky]

Bubble and WS go together like chocolate and chicken

[thorn cedar]

cause even it not working with gaze would not be a big deal

[rigid sky]

as in they don't go together at all

[thorn cedar]

yeah because it automatically eats itself for CDR lol

again just separate that functionality

[rigid sky]

and who cares about CDR on bubble

it's only really important on shriek

[radiant frigate]

100% bubble uptime!!

[rigid sky]

you get 100% uptime from psych aura alone

[thorn cedar]

nobody, but people do care about 24% extra damage

[rigid sky]

If you want reliable damage, take DD and git gud

[thorn cedar]

thats what i mean

warp stacks doesnt have to be this way at all

but it just is because ???

[rigid sky]

or play a build that builds warp charges for free like purgatus

because they don't want it to be free unconditional damage

they want it to revolve around CDR and have the damage as a side bonus

[radiant frigate]

you mean, unlike at release

[thorn cedar]

well i mean it isnt totally free, you do have to pick the stacks up, but it's a pretty trivial ask

[rigid sky]

Yeah, I think they must have decided to iterate away from it

[thorn cedar]

it was more that we had other things than just brain burst now

BB + WS were strictly tied together

[rigid sky]

Disrupt Destiny is honestly so similar to old warp charges

[thorn cedar]

only the fire flamey thing gave you them otherwise

[radiant frigate]

i wonder if DD/SG can do The Funny™️ on crushers with devil's claw

[rigid sky]

it's just instead of brain burst anything, it's hunt the blue boi

[rigid sky]

also psychic communion

4% warp charge chance on anybody in coherency getting a kill

which is now a modifier node

[rigid sky]

Mostly recommend DD with a voidstrike or a gun, since it is all about finesse bonuses

[thorn cedar]

oya that did exist before

[marble crater]

So I should try Gunker

[thorn cedar]

its very kinetic

[radiant frigate]

kinetic energy my beloved

[thorn cedar]

https://www.twitch.tv/exploitstv/clip/AmericanProudPartridgeThisIsSparta-CSK-_fd4soOqZy6X

[rigid sky]

It is so fun, so strong

[upper sun]

🤔 what do we think

[rigid sky]

It's a meme except it's an absolutely lethal meme

[marble crater]

I have some Columnus bases already, surely Hadron won't brick all 4 of them, right?

[rigid sky]

Even a brick isn't bad

You just need dum dum really

[thorn cedar]

yeah its pretty much impossible to fuck up

flak + dumdum is the only super big upgrades to it

[rigid sky]

There's like 4 options for second blessing which are all good

[thorn cedar]

even the bar values are very minor in their range

[upper sun]

my rates on colum are really good

[rigid sky]

And yeah, take flak and ideally maybe like unyielding or maniac

Unyielding, dum dum and raking fire = cast bossus deletus

[thorn cedar]

if you do DD tho i am a firm supporter of the laspistol

comical finesse values, instant drawtime, pinpoint hipfire

very easy to snag a blueboi at any moment

[rigid sky]

Laspistol would be my second choice, slightly different role but also extremely good synergy

[marble crater]

Hadron my beloved

[rigid sky]

It might gel with you better

[upper sun]

lets gooooooo

[rigid sky]

Fucking score lmao

Keep maniac and dum dum

Get a DS4 or an Illisi in your melee

[upper sun]

now surrender it for stripped down 1

[marble crater]

Then I might get banned

[thorn cedar]

i miss the old stripped down

[marble crater]

Probably illisi right, if I take a ds4 I would feel vulnerable in hordes

[rigid sky]

If you want a build try mine

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9bc065db-1dd5-4b72-a535-925f501ad552

[rigid sky]

I thought that at first

But it turns out with DD and SG

DS4 also mulches hordes

Certainly when backed up with Assail

With Illisi, Crushers will be an impediment

[upper sun]

is exorcist bugged?

[rigid sky]

But DS4 just lobotomises them

[upper sun]

wait

REPEATED WEAKSPOT STRIKES

[radiant frigate]

columbo is a pretty good weapon

[radiant frigate]

like executor :)

[upper sun]

EVEN WORSE

YOU HAVE TO HIT TWICE

[marble crater]

I will give it a try, so what's the playstyle? When do I use sciers and how do I not blow up?

[rigid sky]

Use Scrier's as often as possible whenever fighting anything significant

Use all 3 weapons as appropriate

Remember right click assail is stronk

[radiant frigate]

i am not a fan of scrier's because i barely find myself using it, so it just feels like i didn't bring an ult

[rigid sky]

And if the voices tell you it's safe to throw another Assail when you're at 20 stacks, probably don't listen to them

The trick to Scrier's is to use it aggressively

Just slam it whenever

[thorn cedar]

it has a pretty short cooldown and it also lasts a long time (usually)

like in the clip i shared i have it active for 14 seconds before i hit 100% perils, so it lasts another 10s after that of 21 stacks

[rigid sky]

Flex points BTW, consider swapping the gain toughness by gaining peril thing for the other SG modifier node

The one that makes you move faster

[thorn cedar]

warp speed

[radiant frigate]

nyoom

[thorn cedar]

very nyoom

arguably too nyoom

warp + mettle + DD + knife/laspistol/duelist sword is really fucking fast

and i more than a few times slid right off a ledge

[radiant frigate]

a mighty need

a need for speed

i need to become a bolt of greased lightning

[marble crater]

Will swap the point and then give it a go, thanks. Hopefully I won't be back for another 30 minutes

[rigid sky]

try it either way

I used to have it in warp speed

[radiant frigate]

maybe i should give SG another shot

so i can depart at an accelerated pace

[rigid sky]

but I feel like the warp unleashed or whatever it's called is gonna be good for survival during SG

since gunker is the ultimate glass cannon in darktide

[marble crater]

True, should probably keep that for the first try

[radiant frigate]

sg surge 💀

[rigid sky]

poxburster roleplay build

[wind spruce]

Iirc it essentially gives you a hidden buff for a few seconds that reduces peril on weakspot hit

But its been ages since I tested it

[upper sun]

how is it ok for some blessings to be ass when we have stuff like slaught/uncanny/deflector

just make blazing apply on hit and exorcist on weakspot first hit

[wind spruce]

Every bit helps! You'll get 35-40% toughness back during a scriers where you're mowing down hordes

Depends on how battle med procs you get

[upper sun]

AAAAAAAAAA

BROS SEND HELP

A bot is following me around

in another game

[radiant frigate]

explain to me this concept of "tank vet"

[upper sun]

press F regen touhness

shoot gun

[cinder moon]

the omnissiah wills you to have a bot friend

[radiant frigate]

toughness regeneration at an affordable price? satisfactory

[jovial juniper]

It's actually doable

It's not goated like void but eh

[marble crater]

I only went down 4 times

[radiant frigate]

it's very prone to exploding

[jovial juniper]

Just quell

I'm not joking

Press a button

Don't make me believe that you have poor peril control

[radiant frigate]

with sg i do

[jovial juniper]

Agh

Skill issue

Just quell

[marble crater]

I did listen to them once, went boom

[plucky flax]

This is why I am in sedition. 🙂

[dusk void]

As much as I like playing my zealot, it can’t beat my awesome tank psyker

[untold niche]

true tank is 4x vets all running VOC

all four krak nades as well

[marble crater]

Had a 4x vet game yesterday with me being the only one with voc, I felt cheated out of an awesome experience. Cosplaying as a wall of bullets and plasma was fun though

[untold niche]

the voc bug not fixed?

[frozen fiber]

surge staff high damage build?

https://tenor.com/view/power-starwars-unlimited-power-gif-15939349

[marble crater]

What bug?

[untold niche]

theres a bug that makes you 100% resistant to bullets while VOC buff is active even if you are not yellow

[marble crater]

That was fixed, I meant us vets cosplaying as a wall of bullets, because we were all just shooting stuff all mission long

[untold niche]

you take voc and no melee >:0

( i mean tbf im the weird one that plays melee vet)

[marble crater]

We did melee, occasionally

[rigid sky]

Melee vet is really strong anyway

[upper sun]

melee vet is legit

[plucky flax]

Take warp charges and creeping flames spam.

[rigid sky]

Is EP smite actually decent for damage?

or is it still weak and not worthwhile

the build I've stolen for my surge was recommending EP smite but I altered it to go warp siphon instead

[plucky flax]

You don't want to smite when you play surge.

[rigid sky]

Yeah, I mostly use it as an emergency button to stall for a creeping flame

so I'd imagine creeping flame CD is more important

and the damage on surge itself from the warp charges

since it's inconsistent on oneshotting gunners

[plucky flax]

You need crit to 1 shot gunner.

You can 1 shot shotgunner without crit though.

[cinder moon]

it's less about damage and more about its massive CC potential

[upper sun]

this is pretty much standard you have two free points here reds are your best options for the points

[cinder moon]

it's a great combo if you understand what you're doing

[plucky flax]

I play illisi surge smite but I use smite once every 5 games.

Only when team is against a wall with no space to move around.

[upper sun]

same but when i start using smite i never stop and people get mad

[plucky flax]

If there's a permanent smite psyker on the team I love it. It's just free damage for me.

[cinder moon]

smite isn't a blitz you should be frequently using unless your team absolutely can't handle crowds

[marble crater]

As they should, smiting two poxwalkers is not great

[cyan willow]

I've had a lot of fun running Assail with Surge tbh

[upper sun]

TEAM TEAM ONE WALKER IS COMING AT ME PLEASE HELP

my creeping flames are on cd

[cyan willow]

There are a lot of Smite Psykers in quickplay queue so doubling up on Smite has felt not worth

[plucky flax]

I've been playing assail surge the last few games. No aura, wildfire, and warp charges hurt.

[marble crater]

Smite really is the better option because of how cheap it is and access to aura

[plucky flax]

Psykenetic aura is too op.

[marble crater]

Can't have shit when using assail

[plucky flax]

Against a bunch of elites and speciasl it's just creeping flames spam galore.

[upper sun]

and unless you want that penance or are using purge no reason to use BB

[marble crater]

BB also for trauma, but yeah

[upper sun]

🤔

why

[marble crater]

Because Psykentic's aura

[plucky flax]

Monster damage. Gunners really far away.

[upper sun]

but smite also has psy aura

[plucky flax]

Why would you play smite and trauma?

They do the same thing.

[upper sun]

because i dont wanna use BB

[plucky flax]

But one does way more damage.

[marble crater]

But smite and trauma are both cc and then you have no long range option or boss damage

[cinder moon]

trauma overrated

[plucky flax]

Tru blaze trauma incredibly bad pls buff

[cinder moon]

smite/surge only really lacks boss damage, but you do everything else so well that you could arguably bring a melee weapon geared for boss damage

[upper sun]

surge is fine with bosses

[cinder moon]

but if you're not CCing during boss phase you're basically being a jerk

[marble crater]

Smite, surge, ds4

[plucky flax]

RIP no illisi.

[cinder moon]

i use deflector illisi with smite/surge because being unkillable as the squishiest class is funny

[upper sun]

ive seen two zealot mains now go smite surge ds4/ds5

both did very badly

[marble crater]

I do use the Illisi with surge, I don't like how slow I am though

[cinder moon]

gotta dodge slide everywhere

[upper sun]

DS5 is the recon of melee and no one can convince me otherwise

[cinder moon]

ds5 is ultra fun just because of its mobility

being a reasonably good melee option is just icing

[marble crater]

Give me a dueling sword for hordes and I will be happy

[upper sun]

dueling sword for hoard clear?

a dueling sword? the sword for dueling

[marble crater]

Yes, let me duel a horde

[upper sun]

duel? from the word DUO

[radiant frigate]

what are you going to do, duel every horde mob?

slay them one by one in honorable combat?

[plucky flax]

I play both ds4 and ds5 with trauma.

Ds4 for melee scab only, ds5 for normal maps.

[marble crater]

I don't care about the logic, I just want horde clear of an illisi with the mobility of a dueling sword

[upper sun]

tell me you attack stuff with ds5

[plucky flax]

Only crusher and maniac stuff.

[upper sun]

🤔 when you have a trauama staff

[plucky flax]

Trauma is not that strong against crushers.

Trauma once to knock them down then use sword.

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-handsome-angry-sword-demon-slayer-gif-17221988

[cinder moon]

can horde clear fine with dueling sword

[plucky flax]

DS5 is good against mutie, and can 1 shot flamer.

[upper sun]

ds4 is still better for finishing off crushers

[plucky flax]

Yes that's why I use it for melee scab only.

But for a regular map ds5 offers more mobility.

[marble crater]

Speaking of knocking down crushers, is there a CC cooldown for mobs? Because I can't perms knock down crushers

[upper sun]

ye

yeah i think theres a stagger resist stat or some shit but game refuses to tell us

youd need to ask a shaman

[untold niche]

crushers have fall ICD

[marble crater]

Figured, at least I'm not doing something wrong then

[untold niche]

but you can repeatedly small stagger (not sure if fixed)

[cyan willow]

I used this in Damnation last night

it worked very well in a High Intensity Shock Trooper Gauntlet

[untold niche]

i think fixed because you cannot spam small stagger with ds4 on crushers anymore

[cyan willow]

my melee is DS4

[plucky flax]

[cyan willow]

love the Surge staff

[plucky flax]

Mfw no perfect timing with surge staff.

[untold niche]

wait do i count as a shaman then :O

[cyan willow]

I'm a vet main so I just picked whatever talents looked funny

[untold niche]

:3

[cyan willow]

I only have like 52 games on Psyker vs 640+ on Vet

[upper sun]

no you need to read the entire game's code at least 5 times

[feral lynx]

I am thinking about doing an only staff bonk attack run

[untold niche]

how many games on average takes a person to level 30?

[cyan willow]

tbh I had no idea what that was and looking at it I should swap the +15 toughness node at the top to that instead thanks

[untold niche]

actually i might as well also ask what is your true level

[upper sun]

the real final boss of this game is doing a zealot scripture only run auric

[cyan willow]

like 15-20 wins iirc

[untold niche]

#psyker-class message

@cyan willow
refer to that as baseline

[plucky flax]

What are you deadset on running? Assail? Creeping flames spam?

[cyan willow]

I recently finished leveling all classes to 30 and if you play the highest difficulty available to your level and consistently clear you get to cap fast

[plucky flax]

Warp charges?

[untold niche]

psyker levelling was painful for me.

[cyan willow]

Assail because I love it for deleting hunting grounds hound packs, wiping out dreg rager squads, unleashing into a room of shooters, or ADS to snipe that sniper across a map more than I value smite for CCing the crowd of crushers/maulers when I can Surge staff them to death

[plucky flax]

This is my assail surge ds4 build

[feral lynx]

ogryn brick only

[cyan willow]

I have the flame stuff for my Purgatus build and it's really funny

I got that penance unlocked last night for the warp charges at max stacks for 300 seconds

[plucky flax]

700k damage in 25 mins

[cyan willow]

also idk what that means

I run modless

[untold niche]

ah

[untold niche]

fotoshop

[plucky flax]

You got me.

[thorn cedar]

i could tell right away because 8 is a made up number

[upper sun]

thats clearly photoshoped you only play sedation

[cyan willow]

I haven't tried Assail with Empowered Psionics yet tbh

I will remember this build to try after work

[upper sun]

true aim works with assail right?

[plucky flax]

It let you do this #psyker-class message

[thorn cedar]

yep

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-gif-21492799

[plucky flax]

Just spam assail against elites packs.

[plucky flax]

Yeah always pick tru aim with assail.

Each assail can get multiple stacks.

[cyan willow]

Ooo

[upper sun]

damn nice

[cyan willow]

I do really love that

[untold niche]

assail always weakspot, thats how the DD is working

[upper sun]

make sure you dont use voidstrike or illisi because then you're pretty much playing vet again

[untold niche]

wait can assail crit?

too laze to watch video

[upper sun]

yeah

[rigid sky]

Yes

[cyan willow]

I haven't touched trauma, voidstrike or ilsi yet tbh

[rigid sky]

It's very obvious when it's a crit ine too

[upper sun]

everything can crit

[rigid sky]

It has a glowy blue thing

[untold niche]

oh yeah its purple

now i remember

[cyan willow]

I've only played with surge, purgatus and some funny gunker builds

[upper sun]

can ogryn rocks crit 🤔

[rigid sky]

Iirc brain rupture can't

[untold niche]

wrong reply

[upper sun]

oh ye

[plucky flax]

Smite can't crit.

[rigid sky]

Three of the strongest and most fun things we have :D

[cyan willow]

after playing mostly Surge staff, Purgatus charge time felt so slow

[rigid sky]

But all quite build dependent t

[upper sun]

OH noooo not the smite crits

[rigid sky]

Don't charge it all the way

Just spam it

[upper sun]

it would deal 11 damage instead of 5

[untold niche]

@cyan willow ping me if you play void

i am void numbur one fan

agent is blaze trauma number one fan

[cyan willow]

will do!

it's on the list of things to try out

I've spent too long playing Vet and now I'm learning the other classes

Zealot has been really fun to try

[upper sun]

i used to like purge but too much eye strain to play it anymore 😭

[plucky flax]

Welcome to the worst class.

[untold niche]

you played vet first? i feel sorry for you

[feral lynx]

void is fun but I got my current staff for it back when I was level 24

[cyan willow]

I like Vet most still tbh but I'm boring. All the other classes have such cool weapons and abilities but I love looking like a standard imperial guard trooper and using a lasgun to tap heads one by one

[untold niche]

i see you are thematic gamur

[cyan willow]

But it did teach me to learn how to properly dodge, how to position properly and proper game awareness before touching the other classes

[untold niche]

vet teach you, how to dodge?

i wish it also teach the pub vets too

[cyan willow]

yeah because any Vet who sits there with their gun out when the horde shows up is going to be down or backpedaling and spamming shots into them while looking like a clown

[untold niche]

i see, so you didn't play VoC vet

[cyan willow]

I did and it was really boring

I ended up maining Infiltrate for a long time

then swapped to Exe Stance

[untold niche]

ok imagine, range class but you get to stand infront because you are a fucking nuke

dats psyker

[cyan willow]

plasma, power sword with power cycler 4/brutal momentum and VoC build puts me to sleep

[untold niche]

you aren't a glass cannon you are a nuke

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-kek-king-gif-13961892

welcome.

[cyan willow]

Psyker has been really fun for how much crazy power they have yeah

[cinder moon]

i started out maining zealot because evis+flamer looked fun, then i discovered the power of psyker and ogryn

veteran is easily the most boring

[cyan willow]

also DS4 poking crusher heads and W+M1ing my way through hordes has been very fun

so speedy

[untold niche]

i feel something abit more "advanced" with psyker is that so far, its the only class that needed/warranted me to limit test what it can do

[cyan willow]

love going right into melee as gunker and poking plogryn or chaos spawn heads

[cinder moon]

veteran also has the least interesting weapon selection even including the unique weapons like plasma, helbore, and power sword

[rigid sky]

Me with E stance, MF and an autogun, happily (read: terrifiedly) mowing down the horde

[cyan willow]

you're not wrong but I really love the standard stuff and go out of my way to enjoy things like Recon VId with Onslaught, 10% rending, Dead Shot and three stam curios for +9 stam on Vet

go out of my way to be really squishy and max out on crits for shock trooper

[untold niche]

With psyker there is no more fear, only love for Beloved

[cinder moon]

6d can be fun

i have a recon lasgun build on my vet, but it's my least played

helbore and plasma are funnier

[cyan willow]

vet chat will say VId is awful all day and I'll still be the clown using in damnation to delete things with my dumb build LOL

[untold niche]

im unironically running that as well
going to for my deadshot bolter build
and my normal voc weapon specialist build

[untold niche]

only path is reliable there

path and

wilmer

and

the anime pfp guy

[cyan willow]

Mk II helbore is beautiful though and I love the bayonet stab

so fast and so good at deleting ragers and staggering them

[untold niche]

usually path is online, hes the cat pfp

[cinder moon]

VOC just feels like a copout, stealth is lame, e-stance is still the best for feeling like a guardsman

[cyan willow]

feels nice to just stab the poxwalker that snuck up behind you vs having to swap to melee to kill it then swap back to ranged

[cinder moon]

mk2 is my favorite helbore

[cyan willow]

I liked stealth because I'm an awful person tbh

[untold niche]

thats why i only use VoC for myself
ezpz, team doesn't get it.

[cyan willow]

Stealth + 90% threat reduction node to feel like launch Veteran with camo stance

stand next to the team and they eat literally everything while I can shoot completely ignored

or do objectives

Exe Stance is funnier though

I'm using it more often now

[cyan willow]

oh that's who you meant! yeah he's had a ton of really useful info and the vet guide he made looks really well done with crazy depth

[untold niche]

this guy as well, and wilmer

[cyan willow]

I always pay attention whenever he's chatting about Vet because he has so many gems of info I haven't noticed even after maining Vet for so long

[untold niche]

Him, yuri and wilmer are the only people that i interact with on vet chat

some vets just somehow too crazy about me running survivalist

[cinder moon]

behold my mk2

[cyan willow]

I have like one redacted penance to earn and I'm kinda dreading it tbh

[untold niche]

eh just don't care about penance

[cyan willow]

need to get the 90% accuracy penance to finally get the last Vet penance I haven't done

[untold niche]

at least i don't

i feel alot cause uncessary stres

[cyan willow]

I want the nice black helmet with rebreather before the new penance changes go live

[untold niche]

just for a meh cosmetic

[cinder moon]

same, and i don't wanna go shotgun to get it

[untold niche]

that for psyker?

[cyan willow]

gotta swap out from scav aura to fire team maybe to get it

[untold niche]

or vet

[cyan willow]

vet

you have to use every last shot in your gun with 90% accuracy and finish a mission on heresy or above

[cinder moon]

i've heard of people using plasma to get that

[untold niche]

cant you just use revolver

and then VOC

[cyan willow]

the problem is that most of my builds are massively ammo efficient or they just vomit shots at enemies and accuracy never gets 90%

[untold niche]

doesn't sound hard to get 90% accuracy on volvo

[cyan willow]

haven't gotten it in quickplay yet

[cinder moon]

use shotgun, aim in general direction, get hit

[untold niche]

shotgun more ammo efficient than volvo

[cyan willow]

yeah revolver, shotgun, etc. seem like the way to do it

[untold niche]

but

easier to hit

im dumb dumb

ignore me

[cyan willow]

during launch I wanted to try to earn it in the funniest way possible: Kantrael XII only

it was a personal challenge and I never actually managed to do it

[untold niche]

oh

sneaky

get the

wide shotgun

i forgot if its agri or the other one

[cyan willow]

the lawbringer?

[untold niche]

oh ya

special doesnt need to relaod as well

if you miss with that

i think i can become monk

[radiant frigate]

to be fair the special is loading the shell

[untold niche]

go on to pilgrimmage

[radiant frigate]

so it makes sense

[cyan willow]

go to shoot a horde and someone else deletes it right as I fire LOL

I'll try it after work maybe

[untold niche]

roll one with 0% ammo

[cyan willow]

oh true

[untold niche]

heresy should be winnable with VoC, krak and melee alone

[cyan willow]

I should try building the worst possible ammo gun

[ornate hamlet]

A melee weapon

[untold niche]

you could run like uh, chaxe/knife alongside your horde clearing gun

[cinder moon]

gonna try for the 90% penance with this shotty 😂

[marble crater]

@cyan willow I used plasma gun for that, spec for melee, shoot plasma in hordes. Very easy to miss because of the huge shots and cleave

[untold niche]

fucker thats a good roll

LOL

how much you spend

[cinder moon]

bought 10 shotties, rolled 2

[untold niche]

nice

i think ur accurcacy

going be 100%

unless they count the pellet

[hexed geyser]

Use a revo and just dont miss no?

[cyan willow]

I had a joke among friends that Heresy quickplay pugs sometimes made Heresy more of a challenge than Damnation quickplay pugs just because some people there are allergic to coherency and if you look away for 2 seconds they're halfway across the current section of the map alone under a hound or in a net asking for help LOL

Someone splitting off to deal with a threat is ok if they can handle themselves but a lot of people in Heresy are still learning and you run into a lot more people level 15-20 still learning their class with weaker weapons and stuff

Though yeah it should still be easier than trying the penance on Damnation

[cyan willow]

I will make sure to add it to the list of weapons to try. If Shotgun and revolver don't work out I'll go plasma

[marble crater]

True aim on purgatus? Trolling or not?

[cinder moon]

powersword, krak, voc made that a cakewalk

[marble crater]

Congrats

[flat nexus]

atm for me its more fun compare to my zealot since get this it has a plasma gun so it can deal with balwarks without needing to reload every 2 seconds ||I run my vet with alwayas prepared with plasma and VI knife||

[cinder moon]

plasma and helbore are the highlights of vet for me

just need malleus and don't stop me now for the last of my redacted penances

[cyan willow]

Congrats!

[stone canyon]

I dunno how many hours into the game i am, but finally found out how smite works, gotta r-click first, instead of just lmb clicks

Just got the last 100 mission penance hat for Psyker before finding out

[cinder moon]

yeah that took me embarassingly long to figure out, one day i saw a rando sibling holding rmb and i was like "how"

[stone canyon]

Bad thing is, now i have urge to use it plenty to see how it works ingame

[cinder moon]

ep smite is great even without rmb, but with rmb it's even better

[stone canyon]

Well im warp battery with Surge Staff atm

Guess i could just try it out in moments it gets too chaotic and see if it helps team

Or when pack of dogs come

[cinder moon]

try this out some time https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b88aab3-1ace-484a-a1ae-63b4c89f1ac9/unlimited-power-3

[stone canyon]

Yeah looks like it could be fun

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bbac500-b438-42b9-b557-bc9c8129f1de/surgeillisi

What im running atm

Im not entirely sold on Mettle and Perfect Timing, as my crit rate is so low, like 10%

Melee / Ranged

Maybe unlimited power 3 when running with friend on lower difficulties, babysit psyker

3rd Auric Damnation in row finished now with Psyker, guess im getting hang of it, still need extra wound though as a crutch

[rigid sky]

What weapons do you run

Basically every build of psyker wants to crit a lot apart from flurry trauma

Or transfer void I guess

[upper sun]

that actually works for everything

[pastel thunder]

Hello, does the blocking barrier block the small dogs that spawn in waves? Thanks

[rigid sky]

I think so, it'll go down fast though

[willow hazel]

The scoreboard crit rate is deceptively low for the surge staff

[rigid sky]

Surge should be critting around half of the time

[willow hazel]

It counts the tickle damage, which can't crit ever

[stone canyon]

Ah i see, explains, ill keep those talents then

Makes no sense anyway as i try to be peril edging like 70%-99% constantly and still just 12% crit

Anyways, is 3x 30% toughness regen good for psyker?

Running it atm in my curios

Could be like HP instead or something

[marble crater]

I don't run it and I'm doing fine, so I'm going to say it's not necessary

[stone canyon]

Well i dont think any of the curio things are completely necessary, but they do help here and there in various ways

[marble crater]

I run gunner resistance, dockets and then either health or toughness

[upper sun]

toughness regen isnt as good we have great toughness regen

[stone canyon]

Ok, ill switch em

[upper sun]

id go for max toughness hp and combat ability

[stone canyon]

My current 3

[upper sun]

damn

hadron was in a good mood today

[stone canyon]

Id have this too

Actually, id have 3x +3 stamina

That would make for some silly Deflector blocking

Few 17% toughness and 21% health ones too uncrafted, but low on plaststeel as always

Well, got now +10% hp and 5% more tougness and no more toughness regen

[plucky flax]

I should try to get 3x combat regen for my surge build.

But it's hard out here.

Maybe crafting rework next year.

[hexed geyser]

I realise i have this sword since forever, should i keep it like that, change the crit chance to unyielding or upgrade uncanny to 4?

[stone canyon]

I could have gone that way just now, but went for more hp and toughness

[plucky flax]

Change crit chance to your choice of 2nd perk. I like carapace best.

T3 and t4 uncanny has very little difference in damage since rending is fairly hard cap at 100%.

Big diminishing return after the 100% mark.

[hexed geyser]

I'd probably go unyielding for bosses because i'm mainly using surge with it.

[plucky flax]

Can also just surge the boss.

[hexed geyser]

Actually i'll smite bosses just to be safe

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

For the 10% bonus damage

[lapis violet]

why must i be tormented by a surge smite psyker who can't use their things right?

i load into a lobby with quick play. "neat," i tell myself, "i'll be able to adjust my build to what others are running so we're better rounded out." i see surge smite so i feel i can just go for a purgatus staff. good combo. especially since they were also running bubble. they proceed to do the most pitiable job at surge i've seen, whipping out smite when it is absolutely not necessary or when it's passed the point of being useful (aka somebody's already swarmed and downed)

pubs issue i fear

[untold niche]

bro thats why

darktide has no teamwork

just solo carry

why think so hard

just make your build solo carry-able

[marble crater]

[untold niche]

darktide is not a game you want to be a specialist in only to crumble at some threat

[marble crater]

Me next, with why I don't like stealth knife zealots, ran across the bridge past 10 shotgunners and some bulwarks

[untold niche]

gotta think positive maybe he w as flanking them

[marble crater]

He wasn't

[lapis violet]

he's now successfully flanked them

except he can't do much with it

[untold niche]

play BT / void
Kill 80% of everything by yourself
no more worries.

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkeys-monkey-bath-monkey-pañal-gif-21197198

happy monkey

[marble crater]

Shriek and smite did kill them and we won, he was also a good player, but like... Why?

[untold niche]

why question

like, nobody question you when you did the ego kill on the dog instead of dodging

be free my friend

im half joking btw

in case it gets overbearing.

[marble crater]

Being free is difficult with all the voices in my head

[untold niche]

i think only my vet and psyker can deal with everything

[marble crater]

Yeah I know, I just want to understand the mind of a stealth knife zealot

[untold niche]

zealot can clutch with stealth but can't kill crusher packs (judgement : immo nade, caxe and kant shotty)

[marble crater]

Crusher packs are very scary depending on the build you are running

Trauma? Not that bad. Purgatus? Bad.

[untold niche]

my psyker has void, vet has krak
zealot can only soften them up with immo nade and kill like 1-2 with caxe

[vernal frost]

really easy if you run uncanny in first slot*

[marble crater]

Ogryn

[untold niche]

you mean the 2nd OP class?

[marble crater]

Yes, just run into the crushers and bleed them to death

[untold niche]

when i first played DT

[upper sun]

🤔

[untold niche]

it was with shield ogryn
and i didn't understand two things

[upper sun]

there is zero reason why a zealot cant trigger the end mission

and wait for you guys to reach

[untold niche]

1. why did people find crushers scary
2. WHy did people find 5 and subsequently a5histg hard

[upper sun]

its not interactive

[marble crater]

I'm too bad to try melee shenanigans on my psyker against a crusher pack

[vernal frost]

never too late to learn

[untold niche]

DS4 can 2 hit crusher

not that bad

given how fast ds4 is.

[upper sun]

yeah i also just run away when i see ragers on zealot

[untold niche]

inb4 im wrong again and its actually 3.

[upper sun]

block turn off brain and bunny hop away

[untold niche]

bro shotgun / tknife

[upper sun]

no

[untold niche]

shotgun very fun

2 shot die

[upper sun]

i will play neither of those

[untold niche]

:(

[marble crater]

I know and against 1 or 2 it's fine, but I'm not doing that against 5 or 6, I will stay alive and support the players better equipped to deal with them

[untold niche]

u make me sad clad

[upper sun]

the only weapons i will touch are ciag boruto crusher axes and evis

[untold niche]

shotgun balanced by range and take long time to reload

ew meta slave

[marble crater]

There is when the entire bridge is still full of enemies though, imo

[upper sun]

if i was a meta slave i wouldnt run them on wounds

[untold niche]

believe that you are the one most equipped to deal with them
because if not you, then who?

if not now, then when?

[upper sun]

you just had the wrong team comp

2 shield ogryn two stealth zealot

[marble crater]

If not me then the plasma vet

[untold niche]

but is the plasma vet always around?

NO

but your ds4 is always in your pocket

[upper sun]

one triggers the end event then the rest protect the zealot

who will then trigger the final mission sequence

[untold niche]

on a serious note you defo should try it a few times in a real game to limit test

[upper sun]

then ogryn clean up

[untold niche]

im pretty sure i saw a video that if you do a ds4 slide swing correct you can outrun zombies.

[flint pawn]

Is this sword strong enough base stats wise to buy, or is the First Target too short for some sort of breakpoint?

[upper sun]

nah thats fine look at the first target scalling its pretty forgiving

[flint pawn]

Just wanna be sure that missing 7% damage won't matter

[upper sun]

its not exactly 7%

its more like .22% or some shit

[flint pawn]

Oh I see now, mb

[upper sun]

wait lemme switch car

char

78% first target gives you a 1,31 multiplier

[flint pawn]

Difference between 1.30x damage on first target and 1.32x for this sword

[untold niche]

dood just buy it :v

[flint pawn]

It has been bought

so I forget to ever upgrade it because I only ever use knife

[upper sun]

for zero% first target it is 1 for 80% its 1.4

can someone do the cross muliplication for me?

[untold niche]

it can't cost over 10k plasteel
You thinking too hard for what is essentialy a garunteed good brunt roll

[flint pawn]

1.32, the 1.4 is for 100% which doesn't exist

[upper sun]

ye its pretty good

[lapis violet]

i think my proudest darktide moment so far is when i figured out the formula for getting actual numbers out of the percentages by myself

[flint pawn]

Listen man I just wanna make sure that the numbers on a weapon are optimal so I don't go miraculously getting perfect Perks and Blessings just for it to be like 1 damage short of one shotting a Mutant or something 😭

[untold niche]

doesn't matter, if it is just rip the blessings
else one gold weapon's worth of plasteel isn't that much

also

you should get loadout config mod

[lapis violet]

yeah it's like 1 good match of quick play damn and some spare

[untold niche]

lets you test weapon stats

[flint pawn]

I'm not worried about the plasteel, haven't been from the start

[lapis violet]

well if that's not an issue, just play and roll

[untold niche]

oh you want to know if its actually worth upgrading u mean

ya get loadout config mod

[flint pawn]

Not seeing a mod with that in its name, is it named something else/found somewhere other than nexus?

[untold niche]

ah shit i don't know if i got it off nexus or the modding discod

https://discord.gg/rKYWtaDx4D

@flint pawn

[flint pawn]

Already in there, just found it

#1170359714027155608 message

One quick chat search was all it took

Thanks, mate!

[untold niche]

glad can help

[marble crater]

Can we one shot muties with a powered illisi heavy?

[upper sun]

no

[radiant frigate]

Yes.

[upper sun]

🤔

[radiant frigate]

with DD you can

i also have +maniac on mine

but yeah it is definitely possible

[untold niche]

with headshot i think

[upper sun]

i'm a smooth brain i run maniac flak on everything

[marble crater]

And without DD?

First target says "when hitting multiple enemies" will it also apply if you only hit one enemy?

[untold niche]

yeah.

[upper sun]

highest i got was 3338

thats with a crit and maniac

[marble crater]

Thank you, need to craft a proper illisi then, as fun as fire illisi is

[upper sun]

no dd stacks low peril btw

[marble crater]

And they have how much health? 3500?

[upper sun]

5k?

no wait 4k

[radiant frigate]

4k

[marble crater]

3,3k sounds good enough then, with some buffs and shooting a bit on the way

[radiant frigate]

shooting?

no, no

only illisi slice

[calm sapphire]

I don't think any melee weps that psykers have can one shot muties without having to resort to buffs

Closest is prob duel sword

[radiant frigate]

or deimos h2

or, uh

deimos/obscurus special charged

mutie jousting

just stab them gently on the drive-by

watch them explode

[calm sapphire]

Oh ye I forgot deimos exist

[radiant frigate]

chainswords too probably

[marble crater]

Chainswords should easily do it with the bleeding, just doesn't feel very psyker

[radiant frigate]

indeed

i do not like chainswords

crude weapons

[calm sapphire]

Tho I'd admit it does suck that u have to kite around to use special for muties and doesn't go well at all when there's a mutie spam incoming

Same for deimos

[radiant frigate]

this is why illisi is the most goodest

slice and enjoy

[upper sun]

holy shit

the range on the force push is crazy its like 8m

9m actually

you can stagger a crusher out of an overhead if you're quick enough damn

fair and balanced

[marble crater]

Indeed, it's very fair

[radiant frigate]

jedi mindset

[jovial juniper]

Lore accurate

Use it to push bursters, ragers, crushers and dogs

[cosmic sigil]

so to continue our discussion about lmb purgatus... everything dies quite fast with lmb so yeah, except in some situation where my positionning is perfect, i just dive and staggerblaze everything

[upper sun]

faster than switching to melee?

[marble crater]

Switching to your melee is faster than quelling, or something like that

[potent echo]

Faster for what purposes?

[cosmic sigil]

i do both

[tribal girder]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bc14428-0d45-4757-a21f-762c422fb37d/auric-maelstrom-junas-psychic-barrage-4?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

it's my first time writing a guide plesae lmk what you think

[willow hazel]

I think DD would be better than EP with Knife/Void/Assail

Mostly because it buffs all 3 weapons instead of just Assail

[mighty olive]

Nah ep is boss, I wouldn't change

I run ep assail, void, knife

No issues at all ever

[jovial juniper]

EP and assail, what a rare sight

[mighty olive]

Assail spam go pffpffpfffpffpff clickyclixkyclixkyclicky! Or something like that

[rich spindle]

just realized you cant demios special a green mauler :/

[tribal girder]

If you run dd you will have peril problems

You will be stuck using staff or assail

[jovial juniper]

Pretty sure all of them have stagger resistance

[tribal girder]

The point of this build is to shit out projectiles and soul blaze

[wet belfry]

EP is three points to buff a blitz abillty, 1 tool out of three tools

DD buffs staff, melee weapon, blitz

[tribal girder]

And you don't use your melee much, and you are stuck because both asial and void cost peril

[potent echo]

It's preference

[wet belfry]

If relaying to much on the blitz for single target get used to using staff LMB

[potent echo]

Assail EP is so stupid strong you can beat darktide with it

[tribal girder]

Ep also let's your asial bounce 6 times

[potent echo]

If you like variety you pick DD

[tribal girder]

You can't left click a group of scattered shooters

Stalkers

[potent echo]

That's what assail is for

[tribal girder]

You can dispatch them easily with asail

[wet belfry]

It doesnt need to be EP assail to do that anyways

[jovial juniper]

Speed buff for ragers

[potent echo]

Psyker melee for carapace, void for scoreboard, assail for everything else

[tribal girder]

You won't think so when you are at high peril no shriek and there are stalkers on you

[potent echo]

It's just the psyker build of all time

[tribal girder]

I will have a video of gameplay demo. It will make more sense why I use EP

[wet belfry]

I think its a waste of time to try to convince me.

Ive already tried everything.

[tribal girder]

I m not trying

I wrote the guide for people who would play he build

Not for people who already made up their minds

[jovial juniper]

Fair

[potent echo]

Both have merits, you can solo carry with either easily.

[feral knoll]

How long does Cavaclade last on autopistol? (I’m trying it for Gunker just because of the toughness regen from crits)