psyker-class

[plucky flax]

I prioritise ease of play for maximum efficiency.

Brains hard.

That's why I play surge staff and arc thrower.

[radiant frigate]

arc thrower based

[plucky flax]

No one plays arc thrower anyway and they nerfed it.

[radiant frigate]

nerfed it?

how so

[lethal lagoon]

It's the same game engine so they aim the same lmao

I never teamkilled with arc thrower

[radiant frigate]

i have

[plucky flax]

Lower range and reduce fire rate.

[radiant frigate]

it has surprising jump capability

[lethal lagoon]

I mean they had to fix the fire rate bug eventually

But I would have preferred if they kept it but made the timing tighter

[plucky flax]

Yeah but they didn't fix the blank shots.

[lethal lagoon]

Make it high skill

[plucky flax]

So thanks fartshart I mean arrow head.

[lethal lagoon]

I hope fatshark straight up copies helldivers

The war stuff is so fucking good

[radiant frigate]

you mean to tell me the accelerated fire rate after the first full charge was not intended?

[plucky flax]

Watch me clutch helldive business as usual
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e33cynoi0cY

[lethal lagoon]

I don't see how it was given the gun indicates that it's not actually charged.

[plucky flax]

I want my long range fast charge arc thrower back.

[upper sun]

i have no idea whats happening there

sorry for you or congrats

[plucky flax]

Would you like to know more?

https://tenor.com/view/starship-troopers-neil-patrick-harris-know-more-gif-5017155

[upper sun]

i was like 12 when i saw the movie 😭

[plucky flax]

Game is just as buggy as darktide.

I'm crashing at the end of every round.

[upper sun]

is it DT launch buggy?

because idk after patch 13 game feels fine

[plucky flax]

Yes. The first month armour didn't work.

[lethal lagoon]

My issue was I kept getting clipped out of the map with no way to kill myself

[plucky flax]

Currently there's a fire damage bug if you're not host.

[radiant frigate]

i have not played since armor supposedly started working

not like it would make a difference though

[lethal lagoon]

I don't know how one man can have so many clipping problems

[radiant frigate]

i was running with light anyway

[plucky flax]

They buffed medium and heavy further with the latest patch.

But light still feels best for me.

[upper sun]

i have had a total about 6 game breaking issues in my 700 hours of playtime(30% afk)

[plucky flax]

Can just out run bugs. Against bots I use medium.

[radiant frigate]

taking less damage is nice and all but taking 0 damage better

[lethal lagoon]

I wanna try heavy medic armor again

[lethal lagoon]

I was talking about helldivers 2

[upper sun]

ah

yeah then

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think I ever actually had an issue with darktide that wasn't mod related.

No crashes or anything

But then again, my standards for graphics are pretty low, so I always have things well below what I can.

[plucky flax]

Not playing max settings in every game.

[lethal lagoon]

When 5090s drop I might drop a few grand and see what it's like to be a max graphics purist..

[plucky flax]

I'm old my eyes bad so I need the sharp images and pretty colours.

(Turn on bloom and lens flare to blind myself)

[lethal lagoon]

My blue eyes can't handle the bloom

I couldn't even play purg until they made a mod for it.

Even then it's a little much

[plucky flax]

I play purge with bloom.

I am blind.

[upper sun]

nah man its not even that you need welding goggles for purge

[lethal lagoon]

🦮 For you

[upper sun]

ear muffs for turama welding goggles for purge

[lethal lagoon]

I thought voidstrike had the audio bugs?

I've never heard any for trauma

[upper sun]

nah its just loud as fuck

[lethal lagoon]

Ah

I play with no headphones and fairly low volume cause loud noises scare me and I got one of those mics that doesn't pick up ambient stuff.

[upper sun]

tanks brunt

ok no reason to log in for another hour

[lethal lagoon]

I stopping using the store app ages ago, it made me crazy.

[plucky flax]

Yeah it makes you check every hour and log in.

Veri bad for health.

[lethal lagoon]

I would check it before bed, and if i got up to pee I would also check it.

I was a lunatic.

[upper sun]

ye ikno but im gonna take a break long break after 1-2 weeks so might as well

[plucky flax]

I used to play another game and check store every hour, quickly log in to dt to buy stuff.

Like bruh.

Now I just chill and watch anime.

[upper sun]

hell yeah

i just finished re:zero good stuff

[plucky flax]

Oh there was an app you could buy stuff without loggin in.

It was so good.

But dt killed it cos they want 'play hours'.

[upper sun]

if only 🥹

[plucky flax]

I lost respect to fartshart tremoundously after that.

[lethal lagoon]

You had respect before that?

[upper sun]

theyre good people theres a lot of care that goes into their games

[plucky flax]

Not much but a little. They make the best fps melee combat system.

But their way if handling consumers is one of the worst.

[upper sun]

its not their fault their dev cycle is more akin to a child with severe adhd trying to do homework

[lethal lagoon]

They really do, which annoys the fuck out of me

[plucky flax]

If there was a single player sandbox style with this melee combat I'm out of darktide.

[lethal lagoon]

I wouldn't even call it the best FPS melee combat system, I would call it the only FPS melee combat system. Every other game just has a melee combat feature.

[plucky flax]

Like single player super long rpg type of game.

You don't like skyrim melee system?

Just spam left click xd

[upper sun]

bruh imagine skyrim with darktide melee

[lethal lagoon]

I thought you were about to argue Skyrim has good combat, lmao

[vestal fulcrum]

I don’t think that was it

[upper sun]

shit would be so sick

[plucky flax]

There are a lot of third person combat mods for skyrim.

But the first person is still super janked.

[radiant frigate]

Guh??

[upper sun]

just install the 4000 mods list

with the 12 paid mods

[plucky flax]

They removed access to api and didn't give any reason.

[lethal lagoon]

NGL, a mod that can play the game "remotely" is a bit much for a server based game.

I can see them having actual concerns

[stone canyon]

True but Katana style swords are the least impactful and all about sharpness so they cut through. If you wanted impact swords then something like Halcyon or Zweihander would make sense

[plucky flax]

We know the risk of the modder stealing our info but whatever. I don't want to log in to the game to buy their hourly refresh shite.

[stone canyon]

Katanas can even break if you use them parry another katana hit

[lethal lagoon]

I didn't mean that, I meant a risk to fatshark themselves or cheats or some shit.

But yeah, they could have made one for us themselves

So probably just play time

[radiant frigate]

anything can break, but they're designed not to

[vestal fulcrum]

IIRC author of the app said that they have been contacted by FS and it was briefly revealed to them that they app used outdated/vulnerable API and so it was decided that it will be removed, which ricocheted in the mod’s way

[radiant frigate]

hard edge soft spine to absorb shock and reduce brittleness

etc

[lethal lagoon]

Katanas are the best donkey in a world where horses exist.

Way overhyped but also not hyped enough

[upper sun]

so tru so tru

[radiant frigate]

they are also pretty chonky and top-heavy (and short) as far as swords are concerned

[plucky flax]

I'm asian I like katana but I like a sexy European long sword more.

[stone canyon]

Also i meant Falchion, not Halcyon 😄

[radiant frigate]

and also DT has none

[plucky flax]

(Actually better)

[radiant frigate]

longswords are sexy

[upper sun]

katanas are only really a thing in japan because good quality steel was more rare

there was a pretty big steel trade in europe and the whole world back then

[radiant frigate]

"folded a thousand times" because your iron is trash quality and you're trying to make the best of a bad situation

[upper sun]

ore made its way from india to syria to be refined then got forged in france

[upper sun]

technically the folding process just reduced the amount of slag and helpt redistribute the carbon more evenly across the steel billet

[radiant frigate]

sounds fair but not necessary if you already have good quality steel, yes?

[upper sun]

well making good quality steel was also tough back then

[radiant frigate]

Yes

could you make good quality steel? i can't

[upper sun]

the method used in syria back then was even harder but yielded better product

[lethal lagoon]

Ekasucalibaaaaaa is the only sword I need

[upper sun]

essentially one part of the iron would be cast making it cast iron with a very high carbon content and one part would just be just regular refined iron

they would get mixed up in a crucible and covered with glass or borax or smthing then they would let them melt in a very hot furnes until the carbon content is better redistributed

[stone canyon]

Damascus steel was actually Indian origin, traded by Damascus Arabs, Europeans only catched up on it in late medieval ages with Toledo steel from spain

[upper sun]

yeah

the ore originated from india

india got very lucky the iron ore there had trace elements that were great for improving hardness and toughness for iron very similar to the same elements we use now

[stone canyon]

In ancient egypt in bronze age, only way to get iron dagger was by finding meteorite ore so the metallugry was done for you by the immense heat of falling down on earth through atmosphere

[lethal lagoon]

"The stars have foretold your end!"

"Okay Ahmose, you don't have to say that everytime you slaughter a chicken."

[upper sun]

Yeah i remember reading about that super intresting also funny enough that dagger is technically stainless steel due to its very high nickel content

[lethal lagoon]

If people didn't think a never eroding star dagger wasn't magical, I'd be shocked.

[stone canyon]

Yeah Tutenkhamon's tombs star-iron dagger

[untold niche]

Blessed by the gods

[plucky flax]

Amazing update game is fixed.

[marble crater]

Time to see if this also fixed the smite shriek bug

[cinder moon]

[untold niche]

that penbance gear?

[untold niche]

wat got changed

[cinder moon]

yeah, like the first hood and first top

[untold niche]

i see, how the other guy shirtless?

[untold niche]

bot is getting even more conservative

[marble crater]

Typo, clipping issue and some crash issues

[plucky flax]

Bruh helldivers discord has 800k members.

Didn't realise it's that big

[lethal lagoon]

You know what else is big?

[potent echo]

Your

[lethal lagoon]

My love for democracy.

[upper sun]

me when you, your mom, me when me me I me

[lethal lagoon]

When your mom hears the helldiver's body count, she says "That's not that many".

[hasty valve]

Was it fixed?

[lethal lagoon]

What was the bug, I haven't played in a bit

[upper sun]

using smite then creeping flames casts crash the game for about 1-2 players each time its used

[cinder moon]

i did a hi intensity hunting grounds and smited/vented a bunch, no crashes for anyone

[lethal lagoon]

Well fuck me, I'm glad I haven't been playing recently.

Thank you Palworld, Helldivers, Relink, Dragon's Dogma 2

[cinder moon]

was kinda funny but also annoying

[upper sun]

idk man lately everytime i start the game i feel like i have no motivation to play

[lethal lagoon]

I'm waiting for the next major update while occassionally checking the cosmetics cause I'm a baby back bitch with no moral fiber.

[hasty valve]

At the same time?

[upper sun]

the chances of me buying cosmetics will remain the same as hadron giving me what i want

(I have gotten one top and one pair of pants)

[cosmic sigil]

smol update

[marble crater]

I didn't get many chances to test it, but the few times I did it didn't crash, so there is hope

[lethal lagoon]

I mean I have a metric fuck ton of playtime, so I don't mind, but at the same time it is a fake live service, so I feel like I'm supporting shit practices.

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

(you can refund it btw)

[lethal lagoon]

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-money-raining-money-meme-pepe-money-gif-20679525

[vestal fulcrum]

Epic peepo emoji based story, right there

[marble crater]

If I spent on Aquilas instead of nitro, my characters could look so great

[upper sun]

shouldnt ur rich ass be spending those 15k Microsoft gave you

[marble crater]

Microsoft gave me 15k? When did that happen?

[upper sun]

i thought all xbox players got it

[lethal lagoon]

That's only if you bought the game

Which is free on gamepass

[upper sun]

ah

lmao

yeah why bother lul

[lethal lagoon]

So like I get why people were upset, I was too, but at the same time...

[upper sun]

yeah

i get it too

[marble crater]

Maybe I will get them then if the game is taken off gamepass and I buy it

[upper sun]

noooo stop supporting the devs 😡

[marble crater]

I won't have a choice, if I want to keep playing

[upper sun]

its not gonna get taken off gamepass they're hungry for active players

1.9k active on steam

[marble crater]

That's not a lot

[upper sun]

tried to play a game today but lost all motivation when i realized no one on my team was looting

so i just alt-f4ed

if we dont have ~190-200 plasteel by the second encounter im not playing the game sorry

[marble crater]

Those people will feel really silly once we get the crafting update and they have no mats

[upper sun]

i got bored and rolled a bunch of weapons tbh

i spent like 23k plasteel on stuff

[lethal lagoon]

Or the collectors will feel super silly when plasteel becomes useless

[untold niche]

crash fix is good

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

I also want to roll new stuff, but now I will wait for news first

[upper sun]

i have a feeling crafting system is gonna take like 6 months minimum

[marble crater]

Then I will craft perfect weapons for 6 months and wait until they are obsolete I guess

[upper sun]

😭

i swear if they release red weapons that go up to 100% and render my gear outdated im deleting all my chars

[marble crater]

If they do that we would also need a balance adjustment I guess, which would kind of defeat the purpose of adding them in the first place

[upper sun]

some breakpoints would go crazy yeah

like the target cleave stat

[marble crater]

I think most people would already be happy if they could break locks and either increase stats or maybe swap stats with each other. So you could switch that 60 damage with the 80 mobility for example

[upper sun]

man i just want one extra lock

dont change anything just add a 3rd mod

[fluid skiff]

Why lock things in the first place, anyway?

[rigid sky]

To make it take longer to make the perfect weapon you want, and get you to experiment with blessings you otherwise wouldn't consider

[vestal fulcrum]

Partly because it defuses a design problem from VT2, where players eventually stopped wanting to get new items, because they had items which could be changed in any way they wanted

[rigid sky]

It wouldn't be so bad if the blessing and perks pools weren't polluted with absolute shit

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s not a player-friendly decision, mind, I’m not trying to defend it

I just played a lot of VT2 and am aware of its design issues

[rigid sky]

Terrifying Barrage for example, which is one of the absolute worst offenders

Because it's useless, and it deludes people into thinking it might be good so some people even seek it out on purpose

[upper sun]

i wish horrible things on whoever designed barrage

[vestal fulcrum]

Don’t. Ask them to change it.

[rigid sky]

It's another rock that protects you from tigers

[upper sun]

I wish their socks become soggy

[vestal fulcrum]

The problem is, it has to meet design quota for a lot of different weapons

[upper sun]

and their pillows warm

[vestal fulcrum]

The after effect has to be compatible with all the weapons that have it

[upper sun]

and their oatmeal dry

[rigid sky]

It should cause suppression in certain enemy types that otherwise ignore it

And it would still be shit

[vestal fulcrum]

Incredibly abusable, but I’d say it could extend to bruisers at least

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-charlotte-rampling-gaius-helen-mohiam-dune-hurt-gif-18400573

[upper sun]

i dont see any rocks either

[marble crater]

Join an Ogryn, he will proudly show you his rock

[last saddle]

devils advocate here- TB sometimes buys me a little time when a horde is bearing down on me. Ideal, but its not dead worthless

[rigid sky]

Only if it's groaners

Poxwalkers do not suppress

[potent echo]

i bet thats gonna happen

[rocky yarrow]

what do?

[rigid sky]

Poke some heretics with it

[potent echo]

change unarmored to something

but its usable as is

[last saddle]

pretty good in fact

[potent echo]

unarmored might let you one shot dreg shotgunners or even gunners go poke some in sefoni

[rocky yarrow]

i wanna say carapace or flak

[marble crater]

See if you reach mutie one shot break point, if not switch unarmored to maniac

[plucky flax]

You can't 100%.

[potent echo]

you cant one shot mutie raw anymore with duelly4

[rocky yarrow]

one shotting muties on malice

[plucky flax]

Even with maniac you only do like 90% damage to mutie.

But it's super easy to damage it a bit before poking head.

[rocky yarrow]

i lied

[potent echo]

if you got the special poke you can stun it out of the charge

then follow with a heavy, ded

[marble crater]

So all the times I did it I had buffs and all the times I didn't I wasn't actually being a noob who missed the weak spot?

Makes me feel better

[rocky yarrow]

62 damage short of the one shot

[potent echo]

crit kills it, if you have high DD and warp rider too iirc

[cinder moon]

warp charges as well

[rocky yarrow]

conveniently a lot less damage than the special jab does

[marble crater]

Why did I craft the mk4 then, if it doesn't one shot

[rigid sky]

It's still really good

Try it in DD/SG gun builds

[plucky flax]

Staff left click the mutie a few times as it's running at you.

[upper sun]

the stagger from staves is also crazy

[rigid sky]

Psyker gets variable damage boosts up the wazoo anyway

Doesn't take much to make it a oneshot

[untold niche]

@vestal fulcrum the "hard" thing is they want players to spend a certain average to get a max threshold weapon / god tier weapon. If you put it at some very high number like uh say 1.3 mil dockets and 10k plasteel people are going to calculate how many games it will take to grind it

Have it as rng and boom, no real comparison to show how bad it is.
PLus, not all weapons need super good rolls

[potent echo]

real breakpoints

[rigid sky]

Modifiers are often overrated

[upper sun]

it staggers everything except ogryn

[untold niche]

i think the math is correct, chances of a perfect stat stick, quite insane

[vestal fulcrum]

They (FS) are well aware of how terrible are the odds, and just recently they acknowledged that they probably should spend some dev/design time to maybe have another look at it, and make players more likely to get what they want. At least that’s the impression I’ve gotten from the news Catfish relayed back in mid-March.

It is true that not many weapons need to be perfect, but it leaves a sour taste in the players’ mouths that they can’t have perfect toys to play with, and never engage with the system again/properly, whenever they come up with a build idea and whatnot (which was an issue stemming from VT2)

[untold niche]

my believethat its on purpose

[untold niche]

actually it should be 81 and 61

since zero is a valid stat

[vestal fulcrum]

It is, but it feels to me like what we have now is just as barebones as possible, because whatever else they wanted to have was not fulfillable due to limited time

[potent echo]

thats not really how the math works

[untold niche]

like what? legi asking what did they initially wanted to have

[vestal fulcrum]

Weapon attachments affecting stats and whatnot, maybe, IDK, we won’t be able to tell until they do what they want to do, to alleviate at least some of the issues

[untold niche]

really?
you have a 1 in 81 chance of that specific stat being 80.
there are four stats, part of same sample so you multiply,
Likewise, one in 61 chance of that specific stat being 60, and again multiply.

Could you tell me where i was wrong?

[vestal fulcrum]

I don’t think the math can thoroughly explain the odds

[untold niche]

im just saying to get the perfect stat stick, not taking into account whatever, of course that is assuming you have an even chance for all values

i think thats the part that is wrong since you don't get like a under 300 when you are level 30,
but for the math part i don't get why its wrong

[vestal fulcrum]

There seems to be some system in place to prevent weapons appearing in the shop with terribly low modifier scores, but even that doesn’t seem to work always, and you can have weapons with say, 0 Crowd Control

[potent echo]

i think the game first rolls total stats, like 380

then with 380 it randomly adds into each category until the category its 80 or otherwise

your stats is only brunt gave you weapons between 0-380

but in reality at max level brunt will give you like 300-380 base power weapons

[rigid sky]

I think it's weighted too

Or at least it seems to be

[untold niche]

ooo so the base stat is 1/81 to get 380
then 1/5 chance for the stat you want to be dumped to be 60 instead of 80

wait

gogol

calc

with these odds you could pull a csgo knife

i guess they could add a pity system wher every X pulls your minimum stat goes up

so eventually you would hit 380

[rigid sky]

And waste it on an Emperor's gift giving you a Duelling Sword II

[lyric burrow]

I will not tolerate duelling sword 2 hate

That being said it is just worse than the 4 lol

[upper sun]

i really dont care much about stat distribution much of it is not that big of a deal

I just want the blessings and perks i want

[vestal fulcrum]

That's not the point. People are worried that due to how complex the system is, having suboptimal stats typically = bad

i.e., they might miss a "crucial" breakpoint, but there's probably more points to argue in that regard

If there's anything Tide games have taught me, is that I like to measure the predictability of my actions

[upper sun]

yeah i upgraded my eviscerator to onw with higher damage pen and shredder

and it takes me like 2 more swings to light spam a trapper

than one with 10% less damage and a maniac perk

[static needle]

This headpiece fit at all?

[zinc phoenix]

It really isn’t tbh

Breakpoint math is astrology for stats nerds

[upper sun]

nah some things matter like burn on purge but only to a certain point

[granite mauve]

no, imo

the headpiece you get with the set is better

[stable silo]

came back after a long break anything change is dueling sword/illis/deimos still top tier

[vestal fulcrum]

Nothing changed in that regard, albeit from the competing options, Combat blades are also relatively good

And Rashad combat axe if you really want to use something crude/basic

[stable silo]

staffs still surge void purge with trauma for true chads?

[vestal fulcrum]

Any staff works, really, at different roles though

Some firearms are blatantly busted on Gunslinger

[upper sun]

just spent 5 minutes beating a door in refinery delta

peak gameplay

[upper sun]

yes sir

everything is exactly the same gunners dont have a push force anymore

thats about it

[idle mesa]

Hey guys does the rebreather Deimos Mk Vla have voice distortion?

[radiant frigate]

is trauma chad

i think it's kind of cringe

[idle mesa]

?

[upper sun]

its too weak needs a nerf

[idle mesa]

Would fit pretty well if you'd change to black sclera and siennas eyes

[cinder moon]

trauma bad

[rich spindle]

trauma got boring to me

[upper sun]

i sacrified 90% of my hearing to play a bad staff 😿

[idle mesa]

My favorite are purgatus staff and voidstrike

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[cinder moon]

void and surge are my favs

void with surge blessing going through whole crowds and proccing multiple times is bliss

[upper sun]

oh no bros theres a trauma psyker in my game i hope he doesnt ruin the game with such a weak staff

[cinder moon]

had the smoothest run i've ever had of warren earlier, one sibling had a trauma staff but just smited 90% of the time because their staff wasn't doing jack shit lmao

[idle mesa]

I made the doom voidstrike staff build, that a guy told to me, i love it

[upper sun]

so tru so tru

[cinder moon]

we spent like a minute at the beginning of the match jumping the gap in the stairs, my only thought was "this'll either be great or awful"

[idle mesa]

Purgatus plus soul blaze plus flaming shriek

[stable silo]

well i mean chad because the meme fire fart staff to match fire sword meme

[vestal fulcrum]

Firefart ™️ Trauma is certainly strong

The only staff which is just “eh” at the moment is Surge, albeit for me it’s one of the more engaging options

[rigid sky]

tbh fire trauma is actually really good

fire swords fucking suck

[upper sun]

two people got nuked off the map and currently trauma psyker is clutching

[stable silo]

the lasguns arent magically amazing on psyker now are they?

[vestal fulcrum]

No, but laspistols are very decent

[stable silo]

melker tossed me a polished turd sadly wish i got this on my vet

[halcyon gust]

The times you wish you can transfer weapons between characters

[marble crater]

I'm guilty of blowing up bursters too close to my team while using trauma, because they run towards them of course

[upper sun]

game went stupid easy after

but yeah so funny when 3 people get koed idk if it was even a barrel or a burster

[marble crater]

Oh my god, it's happening

[rocky yarrow]

dont panic its happening

[marble crater]

Dev blog

[static needle]

where

[marble crater]

#📢news-bulletin

[upper sun]

AYOOOOO I WAS IN GAME

[vestal fulcrum]

o

[upper sun]

good luck believer

[marble crater]

Either it went well and they are enjoying the new staff, or it went badly and there was a rage quit

[rigid sky]

Or they have no plasteel

[marble crater]

That would be unfortunate

[weary crane]

Should I sell my 550 deimos

Or keep it to flex

[vestal fulcrum]

You could keep it for better times, I.e., whenever crafting is reworked

I’d rather have a badly rolled item in my inventory than 10k ordo dockets that will be immediately spend and are easily earnable TBH

Sunk cost fallacy, and all that

[zenith vigil]

what's finesse damage?

[formal hill]

Weakspot damage in essence

[vestal fulcrum]

Weakspot, critical and critical Weakspot damage

[zenith vigil]

I see, thanks

[gaunt seal]

Dev blog spicy

[untold niche]

I was hoping for the crafting update instead of a penance and cosmetic one

[upper sun]

tox bomber has been in the game files for like a year now right?

[weary crane]

this is my screen 90% of the game

[upper sun]

real purge gameplay

[untold niche]

Is the damage exactly the same? Or if deals corruption

[marble crater]

Crafting will come later, this update will do for now. Being able to play different personalities without restarting sounds great

[upper sun]

i have no idea

[weary crane]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[upper sun]

this is why i stopped playing purge

[marble crater]

You might have to change some settings, it doesn't look like that for me, at all

[ember solstice]

[upper sun]

cant believe we got cadian hypnosis before crafting

https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/business20/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/5/5/55b0271b9c293585975651c31b792e6ea228fc66.jpeg

SAY THE LINE VARLET SAY THE LINEEEEE

"c-cadia s-stands"

[marble crater]

You wouldn't have lasted a day in the guard

[upper sun]

" and adding 40+ tiers of rewards in between. To make players’ life easier we’ve also added a section in the overlay during missions to track their penance progress (and yes, it will also track Sire Melk’s contracts)."

40 tiers damn

loging in after the update is gonna be crazy >+70 frames tinkets and cosmetics

[marble crater]

First thing to do is find the rarest title and equip that

[upper sun]

guys thief and outerworlds are free on epic store

should hold you out until the update is out

[fresh reef]

praying this gets included with the update

I need more tubes

[mighty olive]

Are the goggles not attached to that face either? Hope it gets fixed

Also excited we will get the original psyker cosmetics

[fresh reef]

(it won't)

considering changing which face I use but like, eh

[zenith vigil]

blessed by the emperor 🙏

uncanny 4

[upper sun]

hey congrats

[zenith vigil]

thanks 😄

[sonic raven]

72% Damage? Off to the trash bin!

[zenith vigil]

yeah it's from mission reward. I just stripped the uncanny 4 😄

btw, is deimos force sword good? or illisi is the way to go?

[untold niche]

Going be like Xmas unwrapping for you

[marble crater]

Deimos is good if you want high mostly single target, illisi for hordes. So depends your ranged weapon which one you should use

[zenith vigil]

thx

[rocky yarrow]

deimos still manages a horde well which is why i love it

[marble crater]

Dueling Sword if you want to be cool and fast

[zenith vigil]

i sucks with dueling 😢

[cinder moon]

deimos is fun for doing reverse-drive-bys on muties, since the special attack will one shot them and doesn't require you to be in contact for the full duration of the attack, just a single frame

[clear heath]

How much do you guys wanna bet the new bomber is gonna be exactly the same but green
just like the 2 flamers

[rocky yarrow]

im just looking forward the voice lines

[marble crater]

It's not, apparently it will throw bombs that make it difficult to see

[zenith vigil]

now that we talk about it, what's the different between green flame nad red flame? 🤔

[cinder moon]

bomber flames aren't easy to see through though

[clear heath]

one is green and the other isnt

[gaunt seal]

When you guys make these abominations of weapons for your eyes only what does everyone else see, just the base model?

[clear heath]

the two flamers are literally identical otherwise

same armor same health

[zenith vigil]

it's randomly generated by the weapon customization mod. also for the user only

[stone canyon]

Now i feel stupid, lastnight before i played Psyker, had game with Plasma Gun Vet, and reload there is reload (not quell) and special is actually cooling it down

So jumped on to Psyker, and tried to constantly quell with my special, never pressing Reload, no wonder it was bit weird first time experience with Surge staff and Illisi

[marble crater]

[stone canyon]

This is what happens when you have couple week break from the game 🤷‍♂️ or only playing Ogryn when you do logon

[zinc phoenix]

Deimos with block efficiency, deflector and +stam is pretty idiot proof if you combine with kinetic deflection. You pretty much can’t be killed while blocking which is pretty fun

And you can still boop muties etc with the powerup

[plucky flax]

Update coming late April meaning it'll arrive in May. Also no new weapons/class/maps. It's only new cosmetics.

Also no crafting rework.

[fresh reef]

surely the crafting rework is next week

surely

[plucky flax]

[stone canyon]

Okay now i got what its about with Surge Staff, the wonders of being able to Quell does to it ⚡

Now i wanna try Purgatus too, havent tried it since leveling

[marble crater]

Yes, being able to quell makes it a lot better

[stone canyon]

Gunker Psyker slightly outdamaged my Surge, but it felt good still

[marble crater]

I can't imagine how miserable that first round must have been

[stone canyon]

Well i mostly cleared with Illisi so it was actually alright

But yeah, that was after realising i cant do s*** with Surge 😅

[marble crater]

What I don't understand is people saying surge is bad, it feels strong to me

[plucky flax]

People are bad.

[cinder moon]

surge is good if you understand it

the fact that it can prioritize more dangerous units when you aim it into a group of enemies is very strong

[tired estuary]

players are also really hypeberolic about calling options that aren't top tier "trash"

[wind spruce]

They did say the crafting rework would be the "big" update after the penance update

[cinder moon]

also its ability to stunlock enemies without knocking them over, which doesn't force your teammates to look down and limit their peripheral awareness

[wind spruce]

So there was no reason to expect any mention of it at all

[marble crater]

Just to make sure, the enemies don't have to be tagged for that, right?

[wind spruce]

Tagging doesn't have any affect on combat outside of the veteran keystone

[cinder moon]

you can just kinda aim in the general direction of the more dangerous units and the staff will go for them provided there isn't something much closer and directly in the way

[radiant frigate]

is it hyperbole to call devil's claw trash

[cinder moon]

got invited by a rando level 29 to strike team, he brought us into a malice match, and i showed the lowbies a new trick

[stone canyon]

Played my first Auric game as Psyker, with my brand new surge+illisi combo, died once and blew myself up once, but otherwise... okay?

And got Witchshroud cosmetic out of it

Last in damage, but not by much, so i wasnt useless or anything

I did spam Smite in some tough situations to help team out too

Still only feel comfy in auric with ogryn as has such big buffer of defences to negate user errors

[wind spruce]

Is it hyperbole or effective description of minor variations in strength relative to total power level and the small impact of weapon strength on mission success?

The alternative is milquetoast descriptive differences. "This weapon is extremely good and this weapon at the other end of the scale is just very good." Boring and ineffective.

[tired estuary]

yes

[marble crater]

Okay, thanks. Because I have read before that tagging let's BB prioritize the tagged enemy

[calm sapphire]

[marble crater]

[untold niche]

can't play zealot without stealth anymore

i just hit killed 2 reapers with one swing

so satisfying

[calm sapphire]

I find martyr / dash zealot more fun

[stone canyon]

I played stealth zealot only once to complete that "do mission under 20min" penance

[untold niche]

the reaper one taps and the crusher & mauler oen taps from behind, free revives, free objectives

i don't use it to run forward

[calm sapphire]

Martyrdom with crusher makes u an unstoppable tank against elites n ragers

[fiery stratus]

which staff is smite but good?

[marble crater]

Surge

[fiery stratus]

ty

[stone canyon]

I just joined Surge gang lastnight

With this, lucked out right blessings, had couple decent bases picked from store in advance thanks to web browser thing

[fiery stratus]

tryna give recommendations to a psyker im in a game with who clearly only uses smite

granted im playing on low difficulty looking for new people to help/carry

[tired estuary]

trying to get a brick wall to respond

[stone canyon]

Columnus V and scriers gaze

Probably easiest, as Columnus V works even as grey

[calm sapphire]

Let him try trauma staff with duel sword m bubble shield / assail

[stone canyon]

Is that psyker lvl 30+ already

[fiery stratus]

yeah hes just over

[stone canyon]

Ok, then its worthwhile to invest resources to better gear

Farming blazing trauma staff was painful

Crafted 40ish of those to get the lvl 3 blazing blessing, very unlucky as thats heavily already against % to get it

[calm sapphire]

Rending Shockwave trauma staff is my goto

[stone canyon]

I like to see enemies turn blue on my screen

[calm sapphire]

Hmm then u will enjoy using purgatus tho its too holy / bright for me

😋

[stone canyon]

Yeah its the last staff i dont have yet pimped out and ready to go

Gonna keep eyes open for one definitely

[untold niche]

yuh but i suck with crusher

[fiery stratus]

i cant get into psyker, too squish peril is annoying

[radiant frigate]

what redeeming qualities does it have

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeyphobic-gif-22824129

[radiant frigate]

better than reloading

[fiery stratus]

idk maybe i need the right build

i dont use guns

i only use guns for shooting specialists

i really like psykers melees

[untold niche]

if you use staves prepare to roll for a very good stave or else you will think staves suck

[fiery stratus]

i have a good voidstrike

[untold niche]

you could play gunker then

[calm sapphire]

The good thing about psyker is that u don't have to fight over ammo scrap if u use the staffs

[fiery stratus]

very true

[untold niche]

becomes very apparent in scab only mael

[fiery stratus]

my problem is i need a lot of evasion or ability to get toughtness back quickly

[untold niche]

theres a node that give you toughness on warp kill
if you shoot a void ball into horde you should be getting quite a lot back

[calm sapphire]

Duel sword mk 4 is great for single target / dodge

Might wanna give that a try

[stone canyon]

Just eyeballing my Surge talent tree as we speak for ways to increase toughness gains

Soulstealer might be nice to have

[fiery stratus]

i need to look at my pskyer weapons, i know i rolled 2 pretty good dueling swords before

[untold niche]

yeah it is
if you have a illisi, charge it then swipe and then 50% of your toughness is back

[stone canyon]

Yeah, just need to find talent to drop for it

[untold niche]

i do this for my top

[fiery stratus]

id ive played the other characters pretty extensively, havent really touched psykers since i maxed it, may be time

idk

[stone canyon]

Same as mine except missing Soulstealer

[untold niche]

#psyker-class message

hope this helps you

(of course, if you are going from assail into mid aura you have to take MIM)

[stone canyon]

Im using build from AgentOfChaos vid

[untold niche]

oh ya then it should be fine, i think agent is bias towards wilfire tho

[stone canyon]

Yeah wildfire is actually what i could drop for it

But, like i said, i like to see things in flames 🤷‍♂️ 🔥

[untold niche]

idk i feel i would drop wilfire for it xD

[stone canyon]

Oh well, dropped it for now, better to survive for now when learning

-30% toughness regen important for psykers?

Could grab couple more +5% toughness instead

[fiery stratus]

just got out of this game, think ima take peek at my psyker, i dont even know what i have on it

[stone canyon]

Im still playing with +1 wound curio. Just sometimes still blow myself up overheating, and go down too much also

Psyker is the only class i have one of those still

[calm sapphire]

Why did FS have to choose another new bomber type enemy? 😒

[fiery stratus]

pretty much the best my psyker has

whats the play?

[calm sapphire]

Pretty good 👍

[fiery stratus]

best build?

dueling surge?

[stone canyon]

Surge wants sword that deals with hordes, so preferably Illisi

[calm sapphire]

Yeah tbh

[rigid sky]

You could probably make a devil claw work too

[fiery stratus]

Idk the duelling sword seems to have a decent clear, obviously its not all horizontals

[rigid sky]

But Illisi is my pick

DS4 isn't bad but I don't like it so much outside of disrupt destiny builds

[fiery stratus]

but illisi also has issues with armor id imagine right

[rigid sky]

Not as bad as you might think tbh

Take uncanny on it if you are concernee

[fiery stratus]

i'll give it atest

[rigid sky]

Uncanny/Slaughterer

But even without, powered heavies are gud.

[fiery stratus]

p sure slaughter isnt worth using rn for what i understand, drops the stacks if you miss once

[calm sapphire]

Duel sword has decent clear but it's main focus is on single target enemies like muties in which surge can easily deal with.

[rigid sky]

Nope, that's shred

Slaughterer drops if you stop refreshing it

But illisi stacks it very fast

Multiple stacks per swing

[rigid sky]

It's surprisingly good at horde clear under SG and DD tbh, but you don't take those on Surge

[fiery stratus]

so i just bought a couple illisi

pog?

[rigid sky]

(Unless you are insane)

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/poggers-pepe-gif-12187647

[radiant frigate]

yes pog

now get ready for it to be bricked

[fiery stratus]

thats my first 380 from brunt btw

i have 600 hours

[rigid sky]

Hadron: challenge accepted, varlet

[fiery stratus]

can still roll crap tho

[upper sun]

new crafting system will fix it even if it bricks keep it for 2025

[stone canyon]

I lucked out Illisi and Surge lastnight, so i have faith in you too

[fiery stratus]

save it for the update in 2456

[upper sun]

hell yeah

im sure the 7th crafting update will finally be the one after 30 years of waiting

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-peppo-cry-gif-22663734

[calm sapphire]

Just pray for another plasteel bug again 😋

[upper sun]

riposte to slaughter and unarmored to flak?

[upper sun]

a what?

have the people flexing their 200k plasteel been lying to me

[fiery stratus]

i have like 0 blessings for the force swords lul

ima rip uncanny 4 off my otrher

[upper sun]

welllll roll a couple a of swords to blue

slaught 3 is fine

[calm sapphire]

So before patch 13, there used to be a plasteel bug that allows u to save 90% of your plasteel when u upgrade a weapon fully

[upper sun]

bruh

damn

[marble crater]

Either 550 or it's literally trash

[fiery stratus]

got it

[spice veldt]

closer to 80% and it refunded the plasteel that was used each time you reentered the mourningstar

so you could just upgrade stuff, go to the change operative screen, and hop back in to proc it

was very nice

makes me wish i had just been a plasteel hoarder like other people

[rigid sky]

Tbh not bad

Unstable power is good too

[calm sapphire]

Funny thing is that ppl were unintentionally using it without even knowing it was a thing 😅

[spice veldt]

can't believe everyone bug abused 😔 (completely unavoidable bug)

[lunar hollow]

when they rebalance every weapon in the game i will be ready

[rigid sky]

Just slap an uncanny on that motherfucker

Or a Slaughterer, either is good

Maybe even both, the perks aren't even bad either lol

[fiery stratus]

what should i do with this surge?

[upper sun]

upgrade flak and nexus i would say

as it stands its everything you want in a surge dam might be a bit lower but the scalling isnt awful on the damage stat

[fiery stratus]

yeah the damage dump is unforunate but thats alright, i'll still use it

would it good to put carapace?

[upper sun]

surge targets the base armor stat of enemies

for the secondary attack

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies

[fiery stratus]

never used it a single time tbh

[upper sun]

if you click an enemy here you'll see their base armor stat

[rigid sky]

It's like voidstrike, if voidstrike was boring

[upper sun]

for the majority of enemies its flak with crusher being carap

and reaper/bulwark/bosses being unyielding

[fiery stratus]

sooo

boss damage better?

[upper sun]

flak and elite will give you a nice 35% bonus on the majority of enemies

[fiery stratus]

i see

[upper sun]

nah i would still keep flak elite

[radiant frigate]

how is surge like voidstrike

[marble crater]

I would leave it like that, just upgrade flak and Nexus

[upper sun]

swords do just as well for bosses

[radiant frigate]

0 penetration vs "will shoot through an entire horde"

[fiery stratus]

i dont have any staff blessings, so i rolled one staff

[upper sun]

besides that its kinda handy to know how to deal with bosses in melee

[fiery stratus]

why cant i get this rng on my other characters

im ripping it off because fire is boring imo

[radiant frigate]

experience says this is kinda trash actually

[marble crater]

Staffs don't share blessings

[upper sun]

staves dont share blessings

[radiant frigate]

burn below 76%

and that too

[fiery stratus]

...

[radiant frigate]

surge blessings come from surge only, etc

[fiery stratus]

holy fuck the amount of stupid decisions in this game is mindnumbing

[upper sun]

yea

[radiant frigate]

it would be cool if you didn't have to put in all this time and effort just to be able to play a build

[fiery stratus]

ive already spent like 10k plat for jack shit lul

[radiant frigate]

but no, gotta RNG into rolling the right blessing so you can use it for your other stuff

wrong blessing? weapon is useless now gg

[upper sun]

rookie numbers

[fiery stratus]

no thats just for this staff

and sword

[upper sun]

yeah

[radiant frigate]

right blessing? 300% dps increase

very epic

[fiery stratus]

i rolled about 50 knives on zealot for fleshtearer 4

not blue ones either

[radiant frigate]

knife 💀

[fiery stratus]

knife good

new knife

old knife boring

[fiery stratus]

idk this still isnt that bad, im not joking i probably rolled half that much just for the knife

the good news is the 7 remaining people playing this game wont have to deal with that when the crafting update drops in 10 years

[upper sun]

so tru

[radiant frigate]

easy fix: implement the weave gear system

perfect crafting system

[fiery stratus]

the perfect crafting system wouldnt have rng focus 😉

just ways to artifically get people to play

[radiant frigate]

fatshark already had the perfect crafting system

[upper sun]

dont even do that

[radiant frigate]

lord knows why they brought us this, which was infinitely worse

[upper sun]

just add a third lock to to curios and weapons

i can live with one unchangeable thing

[radiant frigate]

fully customizable curios? satisfactory

[upper sun]

because as it stands to use a weapon you need one good thing+one thing you can live with

[fiery stratus]

tbh i dont have a problem with curios, i havent had a lot of issues getting the shit i want on them

weapons are another thing entirely

[upper sun]

i think reducing the limit to one thing you are forced to have makes the system fine and people still have to do a little bit of work collecting blessings

[radiant frigate]

make diamantine unlock customization slots!!!

[upper sun]

because @broken lagoon this dumbass toaster needs criminals to teach it how to bless weapons

[radiant frigate]

can we go to kayex instead

can he do this

[upper sun]

ikr KX9 is a real one

[fiery stratus]

if they're gonna keep rng crafting with the modifiers and shit, they should change the rng so if you get too many in a certain range itll give you a chance for a higher rated one

so if you put 25 315s, you should get a 370 for free

crock of shit

[upper sun]

just you wait

do you know about weakspot perks?

[fiery stratus]

tell me about how they're broken and shit programming

[velvet verge]

He'll I'd take a guaranteed 380 for 100k dockets

[radiant frigate]

cheap

[velvet verge]

200k

[fiery stratus]

just rolled about 30 surges and the highest was 354

🙂

[upper sun]

WELL lets say a crit deals 500 you would assume that 10% crit damage is 50 extra damage right?

[fiery stratus]

you would think that]

[radiant frigate]

in the fatshark dimension it is not

[upper sun]

in fact it is not

[radiant frigate]

in the fatshark dimension it is 10% bonus to the bonus damage your crit did

[fiery stratus]

...

[upper sun]

the way they calculate crit damage amps is (normal hit - crit)%10

[fiery stratus]

wait so its only caculating the extra

[radiant frigate]

so if a normal hit is 400, a crit is 500, 10% crit damage gives you 510

[fiery stratus]

from the crit

very g00d programming well made game

[radiant frigate]

if a normal hit is 250 and a crit is 500 then 10% crit damage gets you 525

[upper sun]

so in fact in the very best case scenario weapons with very high crit damage you would get around 20

which makes it a useless perk compared to anything else that gives you far more damage

and is more generalized

[upper sun]

actually someone told them that in the forum they said it was intentional

[fiery stratus]

i mean i guess i get the logic because of the scaling of enemy hp, but at the same time, dont fucking present it one way and mechanically its fucked

[upper sun]

in my mind the person who made weakspot/crit damage/terrifying barrage is the same person

and i wish many horrible things on them each time i start the game

[modern bronze]

let love into your heart

[fiery stratus]

why do i feel like fatshark is just some swedish guy who brought all of his family and friends in through nepotism even thought they couldnt write code or program, but its just too late because they got signed with gamesworkshop so now they're in too deep and they just have to spaghetti their way through the game

[radiant frigate]

crit damage was the same in vt2

[upper sun]

NEVER

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-nonsense-elf-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-2308403050531304831

[fiery stratus]

alright well i have the weapons, i guess whats the meta surge/illisi build

[radiant frigate]

surge illisi assail is very comfy

[fiery stratus]

never used psyker after i maxed it, run shield

?

ima need some screenshots, idk what to do tbh lol

the main abilities are obvious, but im not sure whats good for the build and whatnot

[upper sun]

surge illisi is nice i usually go smite with it

[fiery stratus]

what counts as a warp attack

[upper sun]

staves/blitz/ult

[radiant frigate]

katbrew illisi/surge/assail setup

can probably skip the last point in DD and put it somewhere else

[fiery stratus]

ty, ill give it a shot

[radiant frigate]

perhaps empathic evasion

[upper sun]

EE is nice for surge because of the high crit rate and the low range of the secondary attack

[fiery stratus]

got it

[radiant frigate]

i figured it would also be nice for the headseeking into critting assail spam into gunners

[upper sun]

prolly

tbh i havent used assail in a very long time

[fiery stratus]

so, whats the strategy here? i assume something something peril

or just fry and clear and shoot stuff in the head

[radiant frigate]

enter a room and assail things, enter melee and slice things with illisi

fry things with surge if it is not an assail situation

also shriek at high peril to kill hordes in a big cone

also useful vs shooter packs

[fiery stratus]

alright, i'll give it a shot

[stone canyon]

Here is what im running, after crafting those two weapons for it lastnight https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bbac500-b438-42b9-b557-bc9c8129f1de/surgeillisi

Its mostly from AgentOfChaos vid but made it more safe with Soulstealer

[fiery stratus]

@stone canyon ty i'll give it a shot

[stone canyon]

Its pretty simple, just Surge every elite in sight, and for hordes switch illisi, special up and spam lights and add in few specials now and then for faster clear

Smite for panic situations

And spamming venting shriek often for fire and being able to surge more

Dodge slides backwards help you keep on surging melee elites coming at you

[marble crater]

Smite poxhound waves and laugh at them

[stone canyon]

Until one comes behind you, just happened to me in previous game

[modern void]

ive literally never used scrizers gaze before and i kind of want to do any of yall have suggestions on how to not suck w it

[stone canyon]

Surge is pretty good at killing em too, combined with some friendly damage added in too

[stone canyon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af048aa-5835-462f-9c6f-f684b7e924b7/gun-psy-build-i-top-every-single-scoreboard-with this works

[modern void]

hmmm

interesting

[upper sun]

do not link tanner builds

[stone canyon]

Controversial autistic femboy personality with pretty divisive way of communicating, but does pretty throughout Darktide videos on various topics, usually good info, but he isnt as 100% right as he presents it

[upper sun]

hes super autismo about some of his takes and will ban/scream at anyone who disagrees with him

idk about the femboy allegations but the autism is legit

[modern void]

to put it kindly i do not interact with the darktide community enough to care

[stone canyon]

Well he presents himself as femboy, so i guess no need for allegations?

Yeah just get past the edgy personality and enjoy fruits of his autismo 😅

I dont spend enough time on this either to be that well versed, so its nice to find sources that do so

[modern void]

hmmm

[stone canyon]

Main issue that triggers people about him is that he mostly communicates in absolutes, like something is either best ever or worse ever, no shades of grey

And obviously his opinions and preferences are always in the best ever category mostly

But, just try the build, it works

[modern void]

gunpsyker is cool but the only time ive really been good at it was w a revolver

[fiery stratus]

idk

i just think i dont like pskyer

staves feel underwelming and are putting me to sleep, the abilities are very underwelming

[radiant frigate]

what do you enjoy

[fiery stratus]

melee mostly lol

i like the psykers swords, thats about it

[radiant frigate]

then play a melee psyker

very epic

[upper sun]

you can play psyker in melee but i think you should look at zealot

[radiant frigate]

looking at zealot makes me nauseous

[fiery stratus]

my zealot is minmaxed

[upper sun]

ogryn is very strong in melee but its kinda uhh how can i say this

hold heavies never die

[radiant frigate]

late in french?

[fiery stratus]

well the reason i came back to psyker is because i already have extensive playtime in the others

[wind spruce]

Dude framing it as an allegation is cooked af, if people wanna be femboys let em be

[upper sun]

i dont wanna assume stuff about people

[modern void]

honestly all of my hours are in psyker

i have a level 30 zealot and every moment of it was pain

[fiery stratus]

whats the best thing for melee? just scriars gaze smite?

[radiant frigate]

what's.. the difference

[fiery stratus]

something something? probably only gonna run revolver

[upper sun]

he is really dickish about some of his opnions though

[radiant frigate]

illisi shriek faction rise up

[modern void]

lol what is illisi

[upper sun]

"UHHH anyone who takes until death is a noob and doesnt play well"

"wounds completely unusable!!!"

[spice veldt]

un canny

[upper sun]

"decimator is the best blessing for shovel"

[wind spruce]

An allegation involves an accusation of an action that is illegal or wrong @radiant frigate

[modern void]

[wind spruce]

It's not used for innocuous actions

[upper sun]

oh my bad 🙂 english isnt my first language

[wind spruce]

Fair

[plucky flax]

Pls buff all staves especially blaze trauma.

[fiery stratus]

anyone have a good melee build for illisi and dueling sword?

[plucky flax]

Hrm I'd go warp charges and creeping flames.

Spam f in melee with high peril and win.

[upper sun]

psykers are kinda squishy melee isnt the focus but you can go gaze

[modern void]

what is illisi

[upper sun]

its a force sword its very good for clear

[stone canyon]

My situational awareness and skills struggle with Psyker, its only like 1 random trash mob that sneaks behind that can drop you in second or two, Ogryn would shrug it off and barely have toughness bar move

[fiery stratus]

idk how to build psyker

[upper sun]

ikr i swear the game legit spawns more shit behind me when i play psyker

[stone canyon]

So i run wound curio and drop more than with other classes, but i do find the weapons and playstyle still fun

[modern void]

which?

[upper sun]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/sword-force/illisi-mk-v-blaze-force-sword

this guy

very cute sword pls build 7 copies of it

[modern void]

oh the mark 5

i forgot they have other names besides their number

[stone canyon]

Wish there was a way to make tanky psyker, like add one more side on the tree full of survival nodes

[upper sun]

go keystoneless take all toughness nodes

[tulip kettle]

....

[modern void]

i like dying to one hit !

keeps me on my toes

[tulip kettle]

deflector + kinetic deflection + 3 stamina curio

[modern void]

im just trying sg cause i like the schizo likes that the seer says w it

[upper sun]

THE LEX HAS FOUND YOU

[tulip kettle]

nono thats savant

[upper sun]

those lines are pretty good too

FEAR MY POTENTIAL

[modern void]

god forbid i become a cop

[tulip kettle]

seer is like, FIND THEM MY BELOVED

[modern void]

my main psyker is the loner i love her

such a bitch lol

[modern void]

thank you i appreciate the help i will give this a shot

o7

[stone canyon]

Have fun!

Sure and Illisi just atleast made Psyker again fun for me

Getting probably all weeklies done for first time in few months with it

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

That's... that's a joke build, right?

[wind spruce]

Something like that

[upper sun]

i swear tanner puts out misinformation on purpose

[lethal lagoon]

Those perks make me uncomfertable, and that's before you even get to the talent tree.

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

I actually don't mind the talent tree, I've run it quite a lot with DS4/columnus

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

Dem crit damage perks tho

[stone canyon]

Well im honestly no expert on Gunker builds, ran it few times and seemed to do okay?

[wind spruce]

It's generally considered mandatory to take assail on gunker

[lethal lagoon]

So if you run scoreboard mod, you can literally get 1st place with smite-only. Not because it's that good, but because scoreboard mod is a huge advantage.

Columbusker

Gunker has option, columbusker synergizes so hard with assail

[upper sun]

ciag is prolly one of the best cases for crit damage but still i would rather take maniac/elite/unyielding

[stone canyon]

Yeah i wouldnt pick Critical Hit Dmg perk ever

[upper sun]

also no uncanny on ds4

[lethal lagoon]

DD also has no syngery with smite

[stone canyon]

Learned already how bad they are from Vermintide 2

[upper sun]

kinda has to be a joke

[upper sun]

ill tell you the logic behind that one "psykinetics aura"

even tho gaze has very low cd

[stone canyon]

Also he has no DumDum on Columnus, best blessing

[upper sun]

yeah

[lethal lagoon]

And no perilous combustion....

[upper sun]

also another thing

[lethal lagoon]

He picked warp expend over literally anything else

Honestly it's a rage build, it has to be.

[upper sun]

the activation range for firefrenzy/death spitter is VERY low

[wind spruce]

Gaze doesn't have a low cooldown

[upper sun]

its kinda unsafe for psykers imo

[marble crater]

Because soulblaze bad

[upper sun]

🤔 are you sure i dont use it much but it feels that way

[lethal lagoon]

Columbus is an elite hunter build, half the game can be spent chain reactioning elite groups.

[wind spruce]

It has a 30s cooldown that doesn't start cooling off till the effect ends meaning it's actually one of the lowest rate of use combat abilities in the game

[upper sun]

but it stays active the longest

[wind spruce]

True enough

[plucky flax]

It's poop.

[lethal lagoon]

💩

[upper sun]

ur poop

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

also no unncany for ds4?

[lethal lagoon]

We really need a t6

[wind spruce]

He hates uncanny for some reason

[lethal lagoon]

They can't keep getting away with builds like this

[upper sun]

3x stamina regen on a psykers cmon

[wind spruce]

It's fucking absurd because he's running a build that needs to melee shooters and bruisers fairly often and the lights are straight garbage against flak without uncanny

Takes like 6 of em to kill em one

[upper sun]

it would have been peak comedy if he put ds mk 5 instead

that sword has the most goofy animations i cant take it seriously

[plucky flax]

Its so good and fast.

[upper sun]

it doesnt feel like a serious weapon

[lethal lagoon]

d5 let's you zoom, but should you zoom

[upper sun]

mk 2 and 4 are good

what the hell is mk 5

[wind spruce]

Is it actually higher sprint speed or just dodge range, I can't rememeber

Mk2 is not good

[upper sun]

its alright

[lethal lagoon]

mk2 is the fat triplet everyone pretends looks the same as it's two siblings.

[upper sun]

the special activation resets the combo syou can do double stabs

wait am i mixing them up

[plucky flax]

More dodge range and better block efficiency. It also let's you forward slide far with light attack. Don't need to heavy slide.

[upper sun]

which sword does a stab then a slash for heavies?

[lethal lagoon]

mk5 slides are kinda silly

[wind spruce]

Mk 2

[lethal lagoon]

that's mk2 probably

[upper sun]

yeah then thats the one im ok with

5 just feels weird

[wind spruce]

Mk 2's heavy stab is weaker than the mk 4

[upper sun]

true

[lethal lagoon]

weaker is an understatement, it does like 50% less damage.

[wind spruce]

Otherwise I'd argue it's superior for the versatility

[lethal lagoon]

They aren't even comparable

[radiant frigate]

this is a waste of my unparalleled mind, morrow should have sent a blunt

[upper sun]

its not that bad

[vestal fulcrum]

It's not necessarily bad, it just reinforces Mk4's superiority in a very awkward way

[wind spruce]

True it's like the hybrid single target horde clear duelling sword except it's more like a hybrid of a walking stick and a lawnmower with no blades

[lethal lagoon]

It absolutely is, let's see if I can find an old post with the numbers

[upper sun]

lemme check my collection of crap

[wind spruce]

Someone just screenshot one's with similar base stats

[vestal fulcrum]

It would be awesome if Mk4 got the medium power heavies, alongside Mk5, and Mk2 got the strongest thrust of all DS's, but the other heavy is a vanguard swing

[upper sun]

OK one 80 damn 79% pen mk4 is 606 on a crusher no perks no blessings

[vestal fulcrum]

Commendable if unnerving

[upper sun]

oh wait shit it has 8% weak point

[vestal fulcrum]

I wouldn't have the nerve for sure

[radiant frigate]

does mk 2 DS have increased cleave on lights or something

[modern void]

i don't want to be here, you can't make me want to be here

[upper sun]

@lethal lagoon its not as bad as you make it out to be

[lethal lagoon]

Now do heavy attack twice

[upper sun]

😨

i-its ok its fine the special activation resets the combo

[lethal lagoon]

385 vs 562 is the actual number for carpace.

That is that bad

When you add in the blessings, the difference will become bigger.

Which is all that matters in reality

[upper sun]

yeah true but getting stuck with an mk2 isnt the end of the world its still usable

[lethal lagoon]

I don't know about investing resources into crafting a "still usable" weapon, but to each their own

[upper sun]

oh yeah mb i was thinking about an imaginary universe were making one weapon doesnt take 1.5 hours of grinding

[lethal lagoon]

Making 1 weapon takes 1.5 hours of grinding.

Making 1 USABLE weapon....

[upper sun]

let me pretend ok

this actually feels like a drunk person swinging around a sword

[wind spruce]

I don't think I agree, because of the special attack cancellation if the mk2 had equally good heavy stabs it would be the best duelling sword no questions asked

Making it more powerful would just mean it has the best of both worlds

[lethal lagoon]

That's historically accruate