psyker-class

[radiant frigate]

i have this

i also have this one which could be improved if i juice it up a little more

crit to flak and nexus 3 to 4

[upper sun]

the closest i got was barrage 4 flurry 4 😭

[rigid sky]

Kill it with fire

[upper sun]

👏 remove👏 barrage👏 from👏 the👏 game👏

[radiant frigate]

terrifying barrage is truly the Baba Yaga of blessings

[signal kelp]

Haha

[patent wing]

or make it gud

imagine the pain

i had to decide between weak spot dmg and sprint eff 💀

at least i have bonus dmg against bon now

[rigid sky]

Decide to roll a new weapon

[patent wing]

i just want unyielding and flak :()

[upper sun]

ban

[rigid sky]

Why do they call it unyielding anyway

Disgustingly resilient is so much better

[vestal fulcrum]

Unyielding = Resistant

[patent wing]

why do u guys all play +10 elite on surge

[vestal fulcrum]

Infested = Disgustingly Resilient (or “Resistant”, what have you)

[rigid sky]

Really? OK they suck at designations then

Disgustingly Resilient fits the big lads way better

[potent echo]

Is disgustingly resilient unyielding?

[radiant frigate]

unyielding = tough bastard

infested = nasty bastard

[rigid sky]

I mean I know what unyielding means

[potent echo]

Unarmored = ugly bastard

[rigid sky]

I just think disgustingly resilient sounds better and more imperium

[vestal fulcrum]

That’s Infested. Unyielding is just “Resistant” in the code IIRC

[potent echo]

[patent wing]

i just made dis beauty

[rigid sky]

That perfect 51% mobility though

Unf

[patent wing]

short rant: ppl that melee mauler gangs right in front of me shooting them with ciag

[radiant frigate]

you should engage in glorious melee combat with them

[upper sun]

ah yes melee with hit track enemies

[patent wing]

i just ate a mauler overhead because i forgot it tracks me and didnt dodge x)

[upper sun]

remove all hit tracking and bulwark aoe shield

[plucky flax]

Nice pog

[jovial juniper]

I ate more friendly fire as zealot than ogryns

[upper sun]

its so over for pubs bros

i no longer need teammates in assassination missions to go down the elevator

[jovial juniper]

On the mauler topic, when Sefoni gives you the training on dodging, you get a slomo mauler for some cinematic stuff

[patent wing]

i just quitted after the ogryn took the only ammo package in the area we d have to stay for 5 min

gunker solo > with team

[jovial juniper]

Ego much huh

[rigid sky]

Man, I love watching people start with their weird takes and then get really fucking good after a week or so on this server lmao

[jovial juniper]

[radiant frigate]

unfortunately for you, i will never stop with my weird takes

[rigid sky]

Bank accounts are a scam created by the shadow government -> watch me destroy Atoma with one CIAG magazine under a hundred different compounding damage boosts

[hollow current]

But doing this is fun.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1203943108518223912/mauler_patrol.mp4?ex=661cc265&is=660a4d65&hm=ce7285427ab1474461fd061c1879fc4742d66fccb209433c5a6a8eacd14c4824&

[radiant frigate]

gaslightin' giselle witht he good content

[near bobcat]

This is why I call my dueling sword the Mauler Meatpoker

Uncanny strikes funny

Just keep poking their head

[patent wing]

i dont like ds4 idk

sometimes i do tbf

but this clip, the good it is, is biased

no horde, no specials

only maulers

[rigid sky]

DS4 is a weird one

I usually greatly prefer Deimos for the same job

But I seem to find that it's perfect for gunker

[hollow current]

It depends on how thick the horde is but I usually use assail to thin it out before poking the carapace. I also got a clip of me getting swarmed after looting and whipping out the glicky to start blasting away the moment I get clear.

[stoic thorn]

This clip is so sick what

[hasty valve]

What's your favourite gun for gun psyker? Focus on special/elite dmg

I'm good with zarona revolver but feels like I'm in reload animation 80% of the time

[rigid sky]

CIAG

You want a rapid fire weapon with great weakspot and crit properies

So CIAG is perfect. Accatran laspistol also up there.

[hollow current]

I guess I should mention my play style heavily revolves around DS 4 maneuverability. If there’s room then I can always run away and kite around like a coke and meth’d up spider monkey.

[hasty valve]

Nice. Been looking to bust out this one. Shame Hadron bricked it :/ What should I change?

[rigid sky]

At least it has raking fire 4, that isn't bad

But the rest is a bit poop

Dum Dum required

I like Unyielding most on my gun

[patent wing]

carapace is needed on ciag

[rigid sky]

Probably Flak second

[patent wing]

and u will still need a whole mag on crusher heads

[rigid sky]

Eh, idk about Carapace. Depends on if you intend to shoot Crushers or just stab them

[patent wing]

ciag sux vs carapace even with SG and DD

[upper sun]

Yeah i wouldnt go carap on most guns

[patent wing]

yeah then go flak unyielding

[rigid sky]

Indeed it does, that's why I wouldn't take Carapace for it

[hollow current]

My favorite gun is the weaker las pistol. It’s good/decent against most specials asides from the mutant and does okay with elites. Especially with dum dum and raking fire.

ciag is def better damage/dps tho.

I just like the quickness and accuracy of the laspistol.

[rigid sky]

Unyielding is huge for gunker though imo

Since your Assails will be taking care of a lot of shit for you

[hasty valve]

What about dum dum tho? Since i only have 2 changes

[upper sun]

this is what i use for vet

[rigid sky]

Go Unyielding and Dum Dum, and then try to make a better one later.

It's a tragic brick, but a usable brick

[upper sun]

idk why people go for firefrenzy or deathspitter for the second blessing you legit have to be in melee range for them to activate

like ill take a maybe 40% extra damage over stuff that never procs

[hollow current]

Damage and stoping power are the only real important stats on ciag too. All the others can dump hard and it’s not a big deal. Even ammo barely moves iirc.

[hasty valve]

huh, i've never been huge on assail. With my revolver build I went with smite

[upper sun]

its perfectly fine i dont play vet

[rigid sky]

Stability helps tbf

[upper sun]

it deletes sedation weeklies :%)

[rigid sky]

Missed shots deal no damage

[hollow current]

For sure. But then again when I use mine it’s usually from 5 meters away or closer.

Probably why I don’t care if it dumps or not.

[hasty valve]

I'll try some more guns. With the columnus I'm essentially powerless vs crushers compared to the revolver im used to. Will check out the acc laspistol

[hollow current]

Las pistol is worse against crushers lol.

What’s your melee.

[hasty valve]

illisi

and smite

[hollow current]

Yeah. Smite + illisi + gun is going to leave you weak to them. Scriers crit node ciag can kinda shoot them in the face but even that isn’t really worth it.

I guess if you have uncanny on the illi, that might be your best weapon?

[hasty valve]

Yeah. It's risky as a psyker tho. Might just go back to revolver and try to get some reload speed going. Since i only play with pugs having something vs long range is good

Revolver vs crushers/elites, illisi for horde clear/single dmg, smite vs crusher gangs/general shit hits the fan situations

[hollow current]

Oh right. I forgot handcannon revolver is a thing.

Good luck with the monstrosities

[hasty valve]

Some headshots and faith in my fellow randos 🙂

Hard to be a true all-rounder as a psyker imo

[hollow current]

It’s why I do laspistol, assail and ds4

Las for bosses. Assail for chaff and honestly anything that isn’t carapace. DS4 for speed/maneuverability and anything that gets in poking distance.

[wooden ibex]

is maniac okay for trauma force staff? i also have one with unyielding
i'm going for warp nexus + blazing spirit

[radiant frigate]

idk i think bb/shriek/dd with illisi voidstrike is pretty much it

i am biased though

can also switch for surge assail

[hexed geyser]

What's the talent tree for that? Looks fun to try

[hasty valve]

Thats the only build I’ve ever done for psyker 🙂 and why I’m looking for something else

And I love my revolver vet build so was looking to do something similar for my gunker build

[upper sun]

every class is revolver vet

vent+revolver = magic vet
chorus+revolver = tank vet
reload ult+rumbler = explosive vet

[cinder moon]

gunlugger with rumbler is hilarious

i have a clip somewhere of me nuking a patrol of like 6 crushers using that combo, and one of the randos just stops, turns, and looks at me

[plucky flax]

Hrm psyker is so easy to build all rounder.

Blaze trauma, surge, voidstrike assail.

Surge actually does very good monster damage.

And take creeping flames and illisi for ez horde clear.

[rigid sky]

Idk if I'd say very good

Decent at least

[plucky flax]

186k monster damage with surge Xd

[hasty valve]

Doing a gunker build tho!

Usually do Deimos, void, bb but want something different from that

[plucky flax]

Hrm interesting combo.

Not a lot of aoe.

[hasty valve]

It works pretty good actually, void for aoe/horde disruption and bb for most other stuff, Deimos 1 on 1

But always been interested in gun psyker

[plucky flax]

I always run assail with void/gun for extra horde clear.

[upper sun]

guys r8 my illisi

[radiant frigate]

needs slaughterer

otherwise ok

[upper sun]

rampage isnt all that bad

[spice veldt]

nah unstable power

[plucky flax]

Low finesse.

[stoic thorn]

I wish there was a power cycler equivalent for force swords 😔

[radiant frigate]

no i mean needs slaughterer + rampage

[stoic thorn]

I just wanna swing my illisi mang

[radiant frigate]

i doubt it would be worth it

over uncanny slaughterer

[stoic thorn]

Yeah true, its current blessings slap

[spice veldt]

gib illisi offensive push attack

[stoic thorn]

They're already insane defensively, would you want a stab or something?

[radiant frigate]

overhead push attack on illisi please

[stoic thorn]

I'm still hoping for an overhead thunderhammer (i dont care if its broken please devs 😔)

The rashad gives me the same dopamine rush that cog hammer bardin gives me with its heavies

[spice veldt]

yeah something to make the combos more interesting

if nothing else the obscurus should get it to have something neat compared to the other two

[upper sun]

but muh force blaze cycle

[radiant frigate]

i would rather have obscurus than deimos

[halcyon gust]

That's a weird looking Illisi sibling

[radiant frigate]

what about this one

[upper sun]

wow i just realized you can underhand and overhand nades

[stoic thorn]

yee it's nice for shredders, smokes, incendiaries etc

[hasty valve]

Which one would you go with? With Illisi and Smite, although neither are a must

[radiant frigate]

left one

[stoic thorn]

1

Because weak spot damage is terrible

[hasty valve]

Oh really?

[upper sun]

yeah its only like 20 extra damage on many weapons

[hasty valve]

Thought it would be good since revolver is meant to aim for heads

lol ok

[stoic thorn]

I mean these are both probably within like 2-3% dps of each other so you're good no matter which

[halcyon gust]

Weak spot and Crit damage are bugged

[upper sun]

its not bugged

[stoic thorn]

But maniac + elite damage is good

[upper sun]

they meant to make them shit

[halcyon gust]

Joy

So stats you think would be great to have are made bad on purpose

[upper sun]

yes

threes a post on the forum

they say its correct

[stoic thorn]

How dare you reward skilled play over taking flak/maniac damage

[upper sun]

flake maniac go brrrr

[stoic thorn]

Legit why do things like infested even exist, it literally just covers dogs and poxwalkers no?

[radiant frigate]

bursters too

worthless though

curios also have plenty of worthless stats

like toughness regen speed

dog DR

block efficiency (xd)

[stoic thorn]

Toughness regen speed gives a lot of survivability on ogryns if you have good coherency actually

[upper sun]

block and toughness regen are fine

[stoic thorn]

psykers just have insane toughness economy

[upper sun]

but FUCKING

CURIO CHANCE

[stoic thorn]

!!!

[radiant frigate]

"i have designed the perfect curio, now for the finishing touch - increased chance to get trash curios"

[radiant frigate]

i feel like they're entirely worthless

[halcyon gust]

Curios is the one thing I don't really bother to Min-max to hell and back

[radiant frigate]

block efficiency only really comes in for resses

[stoic thorn]

Hadron on her way to give me bad blessings and sprint efficiency + infested damage on my 380 weapon 🗿

[upper sun]

Toughness regen feels nice on ogryn and zealot

[halcyon gust]

Give me a high enough base rating a combination of Gunner resistance with Health/Toughness boost and Good enough for me

[radiant frigate]

i am currently trying out gunner/stam/sprint eff

[stoic thorn]

Stam efficiency + Sprint are just nice to have yeah

[radiant frigate]

but perhaps i should just return to toughness/health/gunner

it is simply reliable

[plucky flax]

I run toughness regen.

[halcyon gust]

If it ain't broke. Don't fix it is my motto

[stoic thorn]

psyker generates 8 billion toughness a second smh my head

[radiant frigate]

yeah but we have already established that all your builds are sus

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[radiant frigate]

sometimes you just run into a spread out formation of Random Idiot With Autogun and then suddenly your toughness generation is trash

[stoic thorn]

Autogun + Knife zealots and vets on their way to speedrun into a net

🏃🏿‍♂️ 💨

[plucky flax]

My builds are sus that's why I'm stuck in sedition.

1 hp damage taken in a game earlier in sedition
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1224318144563118192/image.png?ex=661d0e20&is=660a9920&hm=c751ddb596c16c02bd9b12901abcd6bb2ef5b1855c71a45c9d4b5f7d3587e586&

[radiant frigate]

i also had some pretty good sedition gameplay earlier today https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1134219073568378902/1224353668678291476/image.png?ex=661d2f36&is=660aba36&hm=00b7992b9157debbcc2ce27a2550a3a2a135c522ff0ab915d32eea5f796f7f81&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=823&height=676

[plucky flax]

597 melee kills. Illisi abuser.

[radiant frigate]

i have taken the illisi pill

[plucky flax]

What 2nd blessing do you run?

[radiant frigate]

uncanny slaughterer

[plucky flax]

Is it the very based deflector nooooo

[radiant frigate]

i'm sorry to say that deflector is cringe actually

[plucky flax]

[radiant frigate]

that is because deflector should be a base function of all force swords

it isn't, therefore it is cringe

[plucky flax]

Hrm if I don't run deflector tbh I'd rather go shred over uncanny.

[radiant frigate]

different use case i suppose

[plucky flax]

Better horde clear. Uncanny helps against crusher that's it.

[upper sun]

🤔 shred illisi?

[radiant frigate]

i use my illisi for just about anything

[plucky flax]

Me I run away from crushers.

[upper sun]

🤔

[radiant frigate]

maulers, crushers, hordes, anything except bosses really

[plucky flax]

Yeah illisi has high based crit chance and good crit multiplier.

[stoic thorn]

Illisi when you're juiced up on DD and SG is probably one of the best feelings in the game

[plucky flax]

I crit so often even when not running gazer.

[radiant frigate]

DD yes

SG noooo

[stoic thorn]

I like Illisi on my Gunker dont @ me

[radiant frigate]

i respect that

[stoic thorn]

D4 doesnt feel great for me lately, dunno why

[plucky flax]

I prefer illisi over deimos when running blaze trauma.

[stoic thorn]

plus just fun to mix it up

[plucky flax]

Although I normally go ds4 or 5 with blaze trauma anyway unless I know I need deflector.

[upper sun]

illisi for everything except purge

[stoic thorn]

based

[upper sun]

actually all different illisis

[stoic thorn]

I dont like the deimos much idk why

[upper sun]

the 1l2h on deimos are pretty strong

[stoic thorn]

Rashad/Illisi/DS4 are my favorites on psyker

but tbh the rashad is broken on everyone who has it so

The weakspot bonuses from DD just go crazy on it

[radiant frigate]

based and illisipilled

[upper sun]

illisi.. a smooth brain weapon for a more smooth brain age or something

[radiant frigate]

yeah something like that

[plucky flax]

Illisi not as smooth brained as combat axe on zealot.

[upper sun]

yeah smoother

[plucky flax]

If you think so.

[radiant frigate]

if this is what smoothbrain feels like then i am giving up all my wrinkles

[upper galleon]

illisi vs rashad

[upper sun]

idk never had a good rashad

[plucky flax]

Rashad or antax both op on zealot.

Just smash left click.

[upper sun]

actually i have bromomentum 3 on one is that fine?

[stoic thorn]

It's like 2.5% weakspot damage per level of the blessing it's chill

[upper sun]

still doesnt feel all that good

[cinder moon]

axes are boring

[upper sun]

taxes are fun

[cinder moon]

at least psyker power swords have unique interactions with psyker

[upper sun]

no theyre not but

i mean tactical axes

[cinder moon]

like, axes are the most annoying fucking thing to see in the shop/get as a drop

[plucky flax]

Yeah bm tier don't matter.

4 give you slightly more damage but it won't hit any breakpoint.

[upper sun]

lemme finish this game and ill post my axe

i tried this for a couple of games

didnt feel all that good

[plucky flax]

It's okay no headtaker 4 and low pen.

[rich jolt]

Unarmoured? Does that help meat a certain break point or something?

[plucky flax]

Are you using martyrdom/momentum?

[upper sun]

marty

[plucky flax]

Do you play with low hp?

[upper sun]

kinda

i let others heal and roll with whatever my hp is

[plucky flax]

You want to have at least 4 or 5 stacks.

If you're only on 1-3 stacks go momentum.

Need the extra attack speed.

[rich jolt]

Marty is insurance you want to heal when possible with a couple exceptions

[upper sun]

yeah with 4-5 wounds it felt better but idk crusher or mk15 feel better

[plucky flax]

Well if you don't like the weapon then don't force yourself.

For me it's the best zealot melee weapon by a long way.

[upper sun]

i have until death the psyker and vet dont if someone needs the heal more i usually let them have it

[rich jolt]

But you do heal right?

[upper sun]

besides that i go down i come back with more hp

sometimes yeah

[plucky flax]

Idk could watch a bit if my gameplay I guess to see how I play.

[rich jolt]

Ok good

[plucky flax]

And what differ to your playstyle.

[upper sun]

you go bp right?

[plucky flax]

BP?

[upper sun]

blazing piety

[plucky flax]

The crit? Not on axe.

Martyrdom or momentum.

[upper sun]

yeah

[plucky flax]

And I run stealth loner with both keystones.

Crit axe is not good.

[upper sun]

if i ever get a good taxe i wanna try bp with it

b-but shred

[plucky flax]

Do it if you want but raw damage is just better.

[hasty valve]

Am i the only one who often crashes mid ult?

[upper sun]

vent?

[hasty valve]

yup + smite

[upper sun]

ye ive heard that a few times before

[hasty valve]

like once per run

[upper sun]

xbox?

[hasty valve]

pc

[upper sun]

🤔

maybe lower video settings a bit

[stoic thorn]

Smite can be a bit rough on lower end computers right?

[hasty valve]

It's not brand new but wouldnt say low end. 3080 & i9. Ive crashed like 10 times since alpha, then i switched to psyker going vent + smite and now i crash once per game 😄

Was wondering if one of the mods were the reason but doubt it cus it hasnt happened before

[upper sun]

yeah but keep in mind

[untold niche]

whatever agent said @ clad

[lethal lagoon]

This is both the horzontial and vertical spread. Imagine a cartoon character holding an ice cream cone.
While your height matters, the vertical direction you are looking at doesn't change anything, which might explain some things;
I.E if you stare at the ceiling, the ground, or in front, it's the exact same.

[upper sun]

its swedish engineering

[upper sun]

@untold niche

[untold niche]

wai u ping me

[upper sun]

idk

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkey-hitting-someone-sword-13world-reaction-gif-23469319

[patent wing]

why no dmg reduction on bleed?

why no invulnerable

[stoic thorn]

No toughness DR on crit is wild

[patent wing]

bruh literally the best skills zealot has

[upper sun]

if you're going loner stealth you gotta use knives

[untold niche]

Damage reduction on bleed?

[spice veldt]

prob referring to scourge

[untold niche]

Am on phone what is that,again me ako

Mr

Ako

[spice veldt]

oh wait i'm being dum

enduring faith (+50% dr on crit)

[untold niche]

That's on crit tho and I don't crit much on stealth loner :v

[stoic thorn]

?? are you not using a knife

[untold niche]

No :v

Using caxe

[steep rune]

Can you still quell cancel trauma RMB?

[patent wing]

CRIT

[untold niche]

But ya I'm not using knife so i don't crit that much :v

And invuln costs nodes.

[patent wing]

u get 30% crit from bleed

[untold niche]

Caxe one hits all trash including bruiser.

I can't proc scourge even lol

[patent wing]

not on cleave

[untold niche]

I have bm

[spice veldt]

(caxe)

[patent wing]

yeah still

[untold niche]

It's one hit

[patent wing]

u dont headshot everything in a row

[spice veldt]

and killing blows don't seem to proc scourge

[untold niche]

You do :v

[spice veldt]

it is like impossible to maintain scourge on chainsword because i kill hordes too quickly

and imagine that it'd be even harder on caxes

[patent wing]

i use it on evis and its great

and the caxe does not one shot everything it touches even with bm

[spice veldt]

sure and the evis has a worse damage distribution than chainsword and BM caxe

[untold niche]

It does :v

HT and SA

[spice veldt]

also that relies on the caxe getting a crit off in the first place and then managing to maintain scourgee stacks

[patent wing]

the last one will live if u dont hit head

[untold niche]

Which is pretty much permanent

Why would you not hit head

[spice veldt]

so not only do you have to avoid a headshot

[patent wing]

befcause not horizontal attacks?

[spice veldt]

it has to be a crit, and you have to hit that same target again when they're bleeding

[untold niche]

^ what ako says here. Even getting the crit off is hard

[patent wing]

hits against bleed is 100% crit

[spice veldt]

no it's not

you gain stacks of increased crit chance when hitting a bleeding target

[patent wing]

ah yers

[untold niche]

It's pretty horizontal, you can only kill like what 4 or 5 people in a swing anyway

[strong gulch]

yes

[patent wing]

when i was playing caxe with bm and ht i wasnt oneshotting everything i touched

[untold niche]

Can show pic of your caxe?

[stoic thorn]

did you have momentum stacks + sustained stacked?

[patent wing]

i play crit

[stoic thorn]

It should straight up evaporate the horde

[patent wing]

i like evis more because i can stagger rager hordes

[spice veldt]

headtaker and SA should be sufficient for reaching the bruiser oneshot

unless i'm forgetting something

[untold niche]

It is :v

[stoic thorn]

low finesse is a bummer

[patent wing]

im not that experienced as a zealot i think only lvl 40-50 sth

[untold niche]

Then I don't know why you are so insistent that caxe can't one tap

:v

[patent wing]

300 hp on horde?

[spice veldt]

groaners 300, poxxies 375

bruisers are in the ballpark of 600

[patent wing]

so it cant oneshot bruisers

[spice veldt]

it absolutely can

[untold niche]

We told you many times

HT and SA

wtf

[spice veldt]

caxes aren't considered one of the best melee weapons for no reason

[patent wing]

whats sa

[spice veldt]

sustained assault

[lunar hollow]

sustained assault

above judgement

[spice veldt]

+4% melee damage per hit, stacking 5 times

[untold niche]

Sustained assault. Liberty typed it out

[patent wing]

ah

[lunar hollow]

there's two nested 5% melee damage nodes as well

worst comes to worst you get one with flak/unarmored for perks

[untold niche]

Am going to sleep some other channel this is frustrating :v

Wait actually josho, can you hit 1 tap gunner on caxe? On matyr

I remember you could but when I tried I couldn't do it in psk

I tried SA + HT + duelist, max wound stacks

[patent wing]

u play revolver with caxe?

[stoic thorn]

I like CIAG with Rashad > Revolver imo

[untold niche]

On zealot I take kant shotgun

It's prob better to take revolver

[patent wing]

the special attack is kinda slow, so its not really useful?

[untold niche]

I just like having the ability to shoot at bulwark

[lunar hollow]

[patent wing]

yeah i like kant too

[lunar hollow]

presumably going to require an ult of some kind

[untold niche]

I see. Yeah with ult defo able to do it.

[plucky flax]

Caxe can even 1 shot shotgunner.

[untold niche]

I sad kant fire nerf

I think it would work without AIB and the unyielding skill node. Fun when kant can 2 shot ragers

[lunar hollow]

agri shotgun is a bit better for general purpose bulwark killing now (unless you have 3+ of them overlapping)

since kant shotgun no longer has infinite cleave on special

[untold niche]

Oh, slug open up bulwark?

[lunar hollow]

yeah

[untold niche]

Is it better because it uses same amount of shots but they die instantly because no need wait fire or because they die in lower amount of shots

[lunar hollow]

in most cases opening up and then meleeing or just shooting is going to be faster

[untold niche]

@plucky flax can you link the video where you kill gunners with knife again? I want to see te threshold

[lunar hollow]

agri shotgun also has more shots in mag and in reserve so its less of an ammo investment to open a bulwark (although the math gets weird here for some other stuff)

[untold niche]

I see, was curious because kant 2 shot special them. But need wait like 2 second for burn of course

[patent wing]

heavy sword can oneshot mutants but is bad vs armor right

[plucky flax]

It depends on what build you run and what blessings tho

[lunar hollow]

bad vs armor in the sense of carapace yeah, vs flak it does p ok

the strikedown heavies with headtaker up will still one shot scab ragers on chastise/stealth

[plucky flax]

https://youtu.be/_88_iKC4Vug

[untold niche]

Stealth loner like you
Blessings I'm not so sure

[plucky flax]

I don't run stealth on knife.

[untold niche]

Oh

How come the gunner you face don't turn around to hit you xD

I see its slightly longer than caxe

[plucky flax]

I'm too fast.

[untold niche]

Longer as in take longer to kill gunner

[plucky flax]

Yeah with axe just stealth then run at them.

Faster kill time.

[upper sun]

see that takes skill

why should i do that instead of tankvet

[plucky flax]

Not much skills but thanks.

[untold niche]

What build is that tho

Critspam?

[plucky flax]

Vet is hard for me.

[upper sun]

vet is the only class i cleared twins with

[plucky flax]

Yeah piety build.

[patent wing]

welp i only did it with voidstrike psyker on hm

[untold niche]

Iron will + tdr in aura = you only take one third of toughness damage

[stoic thorn]

Weapon specialist knife vet is always cozy

[untold niche]

I think wep spec most like zealot

I playing wep spec on my vet too

Very good for shotgun and revolv9

Don't need to reload xD

Kill one person with melee, qq swap, one bullet reloaded

[patent wing]

how often do you guys crash these days? its pretty rare for me since i upgraded to win11 and use debug mode but today i crashed even with it

[untold niche]

I never crash

[still hearth]

Did you use smite and shriek

[patent wing]

no

[still hearth]

Dang

Then no clue

[untold niche]

I have a 6 year old gpu too

1080 ti

[patent wing]

me too

same gpu

[untold niche]

I assume no stealth knife because knife benefits alot from crit

[patent wing]

maybe its broken somewhere

[stoic thorn]

i crash but it's usually because of hardware I'd imagine

[upper sun]

win11

[stoic thorn]

580 16 gigs of ram

[upper sun]

LOOK AT HIM

[patent wing]

i upgraded ram and cpu

[plucky flax]

Hrm because chastise gives more damage than stealth.

[upper sun]

LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH

[plucky flax]

And chastise gives attack speed.

Helps with horde clear a lot.

[untold niche]

Because of the 10% attack speed or actual damage

I remember testing and I couldnt one hit reaper with chastise but i could with stealth

[plucky flax]

Also chastise stagger enemies.

Knife has low stagger.

I also run flamer with knife and 2x chastise can clear crushers pack.

[patent wing]

i was crashing 24 7 on win10

[untold niche]

Oh didn't know that flamer good against crusher with chastise

[stoic thorn]

yuh, chastise has an unlisted buff to ranged weapon rending for 3 seconds

[lyric burrow]

Yeah it basically makes them flak

[tired estuary]

Picking flamer without chastise is an instant report to the inqisitorius

[rigid sky]

Can it work with an Uncanny melee instead?

I was thinking of doing my stealth knife with a flamer

[hollow current]

Same one I’ve used for a while now. 😝

#psyker-class message

[stoic thorn]

I bought this one the other day, it's a shame it doesnt have infernus 4 but crit chance + unyielding isn't the worst if I have to do a double swap

[halcyon gust]

That be a good pistol

Mobility is a minor oof

[stoic thorn]

yeah the -1 dodge is a bummer

[halcyon gust]

Everyhting else?

Is very solid

Damage is Awesome, Stopping power is awesome

[hexed geyser]

Lmao that's the 2nd time i ask for it

And obviously i didn't try and forgot about it

[hollow current]

I prefer raking fire over infernus now. But it’s not a huge deal but raking feels better to support with while Infernus is better when bosses are on you. Just get dumdum on there for sure tho and see how it feels.

[tired estuary]

Its really not the same as melting an entire crusher patrol

[hollow current]

Lol. Dunked on some maulers the first time too.

[tired estuary]

And in general chastise makes flamer a lot more ammo efficient

[hexed geyser]

ds4 is just so fun

[rigid sky]

I can't light them up and then gain the rending from the knife instead?

Should reduce them to effectively unarmoured right

[tired estuary]

You can but by the time you kill one stacks are already dissipating on other crushers

Psyker does that better b/c they have more ways to slap dot on em that aren't pulling out a big fat clunky gun

[rigid sky]

I will have to test it

[hexed geyser]

So should i build it as a raking fire or infernus?

[tired estuary]

infernus 100%

replace raking with dumdum and groaners with flak or maniac

[hexed geyser]

Well that's funny because i didn't

And everyone else is telling me unyielding

[little sapphire]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[halcyon gust]

I been using Reassuring Toughnes + Dum-dum

[stark nova]

Hmm

[stoic thorn]

bro

[rich spindle]

Isnt infernus useless

The damage is so low

[wind spruce]

Its just for bosses

(And, yeah, it's overrated)

[stoic thorn]

Infernus is terrible for everything that isn't a boss yeah

[rich spindle]

How the unyielding tick damage

Hows

[stoic thorn]

But it's not like the pistol has more than three offensive blessings

[wind spruce]

It's like 250 per tick iirc

[tired estuary]

yeah + how often does raking meaningfully come up besides slug chasing somebody else

[wind spruce]

Obviously depends on buffs

[stoic thorn]

Plus it makes your gungryns happy because more fire stacks 🤷🏿‍♂️

p minor benefit though

[rich spindle]

Only 3 stacks is 250 a tick??

[upper sun]

could be 300% damage for all i care

[stoic thorn]

No, the 10 stacks is

[wind spruce]

Full stacks

[tired estuary]

like dum dum + ghost or smth probs better but they had 1 dead perk and a choice between two blessings

[rich spindle]

At least fire looks cool

[tired estuary]

fire good

[stark nova]

What

[wind spruce]

I actually think it comes up more often than people realise

But I'm constantly out of coherency

[stark nova]

But when

[wind spruce]

The reason I don't like raking fire is that it doesn't help you when clutching

[tired estuary]

I mean sure you shoot shit in the back sometimes but idk if I care about the dmg increase vs a trapper running away or some marksman mob shooting an ogryn

[upper sun]

recon bad

[wind spruce]

Well that's not the situations I'm talking about...

[tired estuary]

and vs other bosses I'm p sure headshots are still gonna be more dmg

[rich spindle]

It seems the only time raking fire really matters is bosses

Hs are hard to hit on chaos spawns for me lol

[tired estuary]

shooting their butt while they're aggrod on somebody else easier yeah

[wind spruce]

The relevant situations are like maulers, ragers and bulwarks who are on your teammates

[stark nova]

Cool don’t care

[tired estuary]

yeah maybe it'll save a shot or two per enemy there idk lol

[wind spruce]

Correct response

[tired estuary]

its laspis just get dumdum and shoot guys good

[rich spindle]

The rapid fire lasgun is the coolest gun in the game

[wind spruce]

... no shit if you're three-five shotting them

[stark nova]

Did mandem ask though

[hollow current]

[untold niche]

actually given that both take forever to take out, wouldn't bolter be better?
or flamer becausek knife doesn't have good horde clear

[lyric burrow]

Bolter can do it although id argue for really dense stuff flamer is better still + tknives can kinda take the sniping role of bolter anyway

But bolter can also clear crusher packs yes

[golden kite]

I want a reliable full auto mag dump bolter mark in the future

[potent echo]

Bolter zealot has fun cavalcade memes

[rich spindle]

i only got room for one perk on my revolver

what do I choose

other one is crit chance

im thinking elites

[cosmic sigil]

you'll have to test that

[rich spindle]

Thanks

[zenith vigil]

I think my psyker have no brain...

[ornate hamlet]

this is the guy that walks into a bar in the jokes

[plucky flax]

It's the grenade guy from cp.

[zenith vigil]

time to play gunker?

[terse saffron]

underpowered even with this unobtanium roll

[zenith vigil]

it is? 😢

[terse saffron]

you wont have problems completing aurics with it. its just kinda shit compared to the other 2

[zenith vigil]

oh, you meant columnus and agri?

i'm trying to find an agri, to lessen the ammo strain 😄

[radiant frigate]

i never really got the appeal of fire frenzy

if things are that close i would just melee them

[zenith vigil]

I don't want to melee ragers 🚫

[radiant frigate]

i do, just not all of them at once

[rigid sky]

Isn't Dumdum the same though?

[zenith vigil]

what would you use instead of fire frenzy?

[radiant frigate]

nothing, i don't really use these

[radiant frigate]

dumdum also applies to single targets

[plucky flax]

I use dumdum and sustained fire on my infantry autoguns personally.

[radiant frigate]

i don't usually kill more than one thing when i bring out a ranged weapon

[plucky flax]

But tbh you only need dumdum.

The 2nd blessing doesn't matter.

[radiant frigate]

dumdum + whatever

[plucky flax]

Better to get dumdum + flak maniac.

[radiant frigate]

simply use a purple autogun

[plucky flax]

Or whatever preferred perk.

[next turret]

wow finally got a voidstrike that had nexus on it for my good one and as soon as i got it i turned off the game to eat, when i came back staff gone, blessing gone and all the currrencys i spent on it were still spent...

[radiant frigate]

judging by that i assume you ripped the blessing off

but it isn't in your list?

is it from voidstrike to voidstrike

[next turret]

no i made the staff and it had it but dinner was ready so i turned it off to go eat and when i came back staff was gone and the plasteel i spent to make it was still spent

yeah i have nexus for the other staff but it dosent appear when i make a void

so i made voids till i got it

im just gonna slap transfer peril on it and call it a day, im not doing something liek this again

[rigid sky]

You'll see another Nexus one day

[vestal fulcrum]

Do consider contacting FS technical support about that issue via their forums

[next turret]

meh they do nothing, ill get by with what i have. i have 3 other jobs i work on

[vestal fulcrum]

Suit yourself

I don't know what it is with Obscuruses

this is a random Brunt's, by the way, and a genuinely good base

[radiant frigate]

pretty epic

if only obscurus was any good

[wind spruce]

Buy it for the inevitable buffs it gets in 2027

[vestal fulcrum]

I did. I leave no Obscurus unturned from its inevitable buff time at Soon ™️

[rich spindle]

obscurus is for chads

[radiant frigate]

what if, with the new patch, all obscuruseseses get turned into force greatswords

[wind spruce]

Tfw a weapon is finally usable/on your radar and you have twenty greens with a solid base and a good perk

[next turret]

i have a nice obscurus. used it once.

[patent wing]

give me force knife finally

[next turret]

i like the illisi

i want new guns tbh

[potent echo]

I have so many weapons just sitting around in my inventory

[unreal basalt]

What's recommended melee for clearing hordes

[potent echo]

Illisi

[vestal fulcrum]

On Psyker specifically, you can’t really go wrong with Illisi Force sword

[potent echo]

Rashad stans where at

[vestal fulcrum]

But otherwise, your staff or other abilities can typically clear swarms of enemies better

[hasty valve]

Getting by in Auric Dam with this gun Psyker build, but any suggestions on things to tweak? (it’s based on my shout revolver vet):

• Illisi: horde clear, occasional single dmg
• Zarona: everything -horde
• Smite (w empowered psionics): CC / panic button
• Venting shriek (w creeping flames): my “shout”, + I like the soul blaze (not sure how much value it gives me tho)

Only aspect I’m sure I like with it is the Zarona as it works vs everything (ammo is only issue). Might need to sacrifice vent + the soul blaze stuff for more ranged dmg?

I got nothing vs monstrosities but haven’t needed to solo one so far so haven’t really noticed it yet

[plucky flax]

I'd go assail instead of smite.

[lyric burrow]

yeah assail ties gunker together very nicely

and its p strong with EP still

[potent echo]

Assail will round out the moments where you are surrounded by shooters spread out around the room

Zarona can't deal with those well

[lyric burrow]

i personally prefer scriers/DD but venting is prob fine if you are taking illisi

[patent wing]

skill issue if zarona doesnt help u ther

[potent echo]

🙄

[hasty valve]

Cool. Bit of an awkward question this long in, but what’s the main use case for Assail? Delete patrols? That’s usually what I see in-game at least.

[upper sun]

yeah just spend 5 minutes peaking around a door to shoot one gunner at a time

[lyric burrow]

uh honestly it handles most things that arent carapace or unyielding well

[plucky flax]

Use it for everything.

Unlimited ammo so just spam it.

[lyric burrow]

itll relieve pressure from trash, kills shooters spread out or not, can kill most patrols

[hasty valve]

Huh ok, gotta give it a try then

[lyric burrow]

but dont throw it at carapace

or unyielding

[hasty valve]

I mostly see smite in auric and figured it would be the best go to

[lyric burrow]

a lot of psykers dont realize how strong assail is

[hasty valve]

Plus I missed my void strike a little, so felt it could be my aoe

[lyric burrow]

in my exp

[unreal basalt]

Thankyou

[potent echo]

It gives a quick stagger to flamers and trappers that are firing

[lyric burrow]

that too

even if you have like 2 shards on hand

you can stagger stuff so you can push it

or just take the pressure off

[hasty valve]

Those get deleted instantly by my Zarona tho 😄

[potent echo]

It's when you run out of rona

[hasty valve]

But yeah something has been feeling a little off and I’m guessing it’s smite. I only play with randoms anyway so it’s not super reliable

[potent echo]

It's also hard to cleave 8 rager heads with the rona if they are pushed on the floor

[hasty valve]

Unless this was a mis-tag I’m still tweaking the build but it totally works, will try switching smite with assail tho

[plucky flax]

I recommend ep with assail for more assail spam.

[hasty valve]

Stun-locking them and then finishing em off with a rona hs is pretty epic tho. Especially vs bulwarks 🖤

[patent wing]

assail without ep is unplayable for me tbh

[wind spruce]

Assail without disrupt destiny is unplayable for me tbh

Idk why I'd want a keystone that's not even active on half my assails

[potent echo]

Assail with DD feels better for me personally, 1 shard = 1 shooter. I rarely spam, I should though

[patent wing]

free assails with bonus dmg does better vs 5-6 spec squads than dd i think

[hasty valve]

Hm ok so maybe switch ep for Dd too then

[potent echo]

Nah EP assail is probably better

[patent wing]

i use a kill streak mod and 30 kill streak with assail on specs only is normal with ep

[potent echo]

I tend to play more melee so I favour DD more

[patent wing]

cant do this with dd

[rich spindle]

DD is way better

so much damage

and SPEED

[wind spruce]

It's only better if it's actually chaining together properly and you enter the engagement with EP stacked

DD actually increases your damage by more, anyway

[hasty valve]

I’ll start off assail with EP which I’m used to and see how it goes

[patent wing]

btw is flamer toughness deletion hardcoded or is it just immense dmg

[wind spruce]

You absolutely can do a 30 kill streak with DD assail

[patent wing]

on specialists?

[lyric burrow]

it does a lot of toughness damage but its not a full strip if thats what your asking

[wind spruce]

What do you mean? It doesn't instantly set you to zero toughness like it used to

[rich spindle]

no

[wind spruce]

But, yeah, the damage is pretty high

[patent wing]

dmg reduction perk for tox flamers do not work on regular flamers right?

[wind spruce]

What do you mean regular flamers? Dreg flamers?

[rich spindle]

with a bomber resist I can hop through a fire pool and still have a little toughness

[patent wing]

yeah the yellow flamers i think they are dreg

[wind spruce]

It applies to both of them iirc

[rigid sky]

DD assail is possibly stronger than EP assail, and it boosts all your other shit too

[wind spruce]

Eggzachary

[patent wing]

but i can fire less assails

[wind spruce]

You shouldn't be firing that many assails

[patent wing]

i need it if there are specialists groups

[plucky flax]

Just try both and see what's better for you bro.

[wind spruce]

No you dont

[wind spruce]

NO

[plucky flax]

Don't listen to memers here.

[rigid sky]

Guess it depends on what you pair with

[plucky flax]

These guys are not even that good.

[vestal fulcrum]

You could also just shoot your gun

[rigid sky]

DD wants void or guns too

[patent wing]

also psychich leeching op

[rigid sky]

Less good with other shit

[patent wing]

literally becoming a tank

[wind spruce]

If you're combating groups of specials

You aren't even gonna have EP after 0.8s of shooting assails

[hasty valve]

Yeah specialist patrols get deleted with a well placed Zarona shot or two

[plucky flax]

Me I only play ep assail.

Ez spam ez win.

[rigid sky]

Actually yeah, you don't get EP charges from specials lol

It's only elites and the trickle from general kills

Idk for me EP is a brain rupture keystone almost exclusively

[wind spruce]

Try this

[wind spruce]

It you got stacks from specialists it might actually be worth using

[hasty valve]

…but if assail sucks vs carapace, and my rona kills all elites including patrols (- maulers), what is my actual use case with assail?

I bet it’s weak vs monstrosities too right?

[vestal fulcrum]

Killing shooters, hordes, small elites to conserve ammo, effortlessly

[rigid sky]

Assail kills chaff

[vestal fulcrum]

Also stacking Perfect Timing and making excellent use out of it, and uhhh

Malefic Momentum?

[rigid sky]

Brain rupture kills priority targets

[wind spruce]

If you're using rona on all gunners you're spending wayyyy too much time reloading

[rigid sky]

Zarona's great for gunners though. Do you mean trash shooters?

[wind spruce]

Both tbh

[hasty valve]

True. 80% of my runs are in the reloading animation

[wind spruce]

Respect if you enjoy that, but I can't stand it

[rigid sky]

Tbh I'd even consider the other revolver for Psyker

[patent wing]

yeah i meant the weaker elites liker gunners

forgot they arent specs

[rigid sky]

At least if you wanna use SG

[wind spruce]

The las pistol

[rigid sky]

If I use Zarona I'd probably take Shriek

[hasty valve]

I need the range tho now that I no longer have BB

[wind spruce]

Yeah that's fair

[rigid sky]

I mean laspistols are a given tbh, that's the #2 meta pick

[patent wing]

i even use ep assail with my void

[hasty valve]

That’s what I’m using now

[plucky flax]

Based. Me too.

[patent wing]

and that void is using flurry surge

goes into cover

[plucky flax]

I used to run flurry surge. But since I barely use my void I switched to nexus surge for crushers only.

And bulwarks.

[wind spruce]

Ok try this

[patent wing]

idk i feel like flurry better fo that since u need a fully charged shot to open bulwark

[wind spruce]

Actually drop EE for something

Malefic or quickshards or toughness

[rich spindle]

i stopped taking perilous comb. recently

the aoe is so small

[patent wing]

same

[wind spruce]

Its pretty dropable on a build with no other warpfire

[patent wing]

but only if i need the point somewhere else

[wind spruce]

But any build with creeping flames should keep it

Going from 6 to 9 or 12 stacks hits a lot of breakpoints for gunners, etc

[rich spindle]

I can only think of shrieking at a gunner pack and then killing one of them

maybe 2 get PC stacks

[plucky flax]

It's for the burst damage on crusher. Flurry doesn't work until the 2nd and 3rd shot.

[patent wing]

ya just shoot 2 barely charged rmbs

[rigid sky]

I like PC still just because of the silly shitgunner multipacks the game loves to throw at you

[north hemlock]

Newbie question, but is there a point to taking a psyker without a force weapon? The idea seems kinda strange to me, but maybe I'm missing something!

[rich spindle]

yep, force weapons just have more interactions with peril

duelling sword is one of my favs

[wind spruce]

Yeah that's pretty much what I'm talking about

[vestal fulcrum]

No, not really there isn’t much to not taking a Force weapon. Psyker’s melee options happen to have very good force sword variants, but they can excel with a combat blade or a combat axe, or several other options also

And having a gun is fine also; Assail typically supplements any firearms nicely

[wind spruce]

Lots of non-force weapons do as well and often better than force weapons in terms of damage

[north hemlock]

Sorry, I guess I should have clarified; I mean staves. 😄

[wind spruce]

Gun psyker is extremely strong.

[rich spindle]

I liked staves over guns when first starting out because its easily spammable area damage

[vestal fulcrum]

Gun Psykers are insanely good with certain guns, especially Zarona revolver, Columnus autogun or Laspistols (any variant)

[wind spruce]

Psyker has some of the best finesse scaling in the game making the columnus IAG and las pistol absolutely bonkers

[north hemlock]

Yeah the revolver is what I'm eyeing, but coming from a Sienna V2 background, it feels weird to not have a stave arsenal and have my gameplay be ranged like any other

[rich spindle]

if you arent using scrier's gaze or DD I'd just use a staff

[wind spruce]

I realise that people like it but revolver on Psyker is really just OK. You're not going to get anywhere near the results you'll get from the actual s-tier psyker guns.

[rigid sky]

Gun psyker is kinda nuts tbh

It's like a hidden 5th class

It's not something I would play every psyker game, but it's well worth making a build and playing with it for the novelty

Psyker isn't usually the best at mowing down bosses, but gunker fucking wrecks them

[rich spindle]

its hard to play

[north hemlock]

Gunker is a hell of a name; I'd play just for that

[wind spruce]

Grab a columnus infantry auto gun, whack dum dum and flak damage on it and give it a couple of games

Minimal investment to see what we mean

[rigid sky]

Gundalf is also acceptable

[north hemlock]

nice underwear ad

[rich spindle]

WTF NO COOLDOWN AURA

[wind spruce]

Step one cradles my junk nicely ngl

[rigid sky]

It's part of the meta

[rigid sky]

Assail can't take it, and in any case it's not that important if you have SG

I would probably shift that point under Warp Rider into the other Assail modifier though

But apart from that, that's my build too

[rich spindle]

why isnt it important

[wind spruce]

Assail can take it, the issue with cd aura @rich spindle is wasting a point on mind in motion

[rigid sky]

Oh wait I thought they meant the other one

Psychinetic's aura

[wind spruce]

And it's not that important because it's only 3s out of about 45s because of how scriers gaze works

[rigid sky]

But yeah the crit aura is pretty good too tbh

[wind spruce]

But there's also nothing wrong with taking the cd aura if you want, I just prefer the crit

It literally does mean you lose a whole talent point though

Which is big

[rich spindle]

you cant get one with the warp toughness damage reduction :/

[wind spruce]

You really don't need it

[rich spindle]

wow.

[wind spruce]

You can spend those two talents on +30 toughness

You already have 20% during scriers and some from talent nodes

[rigid sky]

It's amazing how many must-have talents really aren't as essential as they seem tbh

[upper sun]

idk about warp kills and random quell are they that helpful on gunker?

[rigid sky]

Warp kills is for Assail

[upper sun]

yeah

[rigid sky]

It does more than you would think

[upper sun]

oh it regens a lot i know

[rigid sky]

Also if you have Illisi

[wind spruce]

You can drop warp kills if you want, but I'd keep battle med for during scriers

[rich spindle]

can you explain this?

[rigid sky]

Random quell. Imo I would only take it on gunker

[upper sun]

but the issue is if you have warp on warp kills you might end up spamming it too much for toughness

[rigid sky]

Just don't blow yourself up

[upper sun]

and when you need it you have like 2 charges

[upper sun]

why

it does damage

[rigid sky]

Recharges very fast

[wind spruce]

Scriers has a 30s cooldown but it doesn't start ticking down until after the stance wears off, which usually takes 15-20s

[rigid sky]

I have no problem dumping all my assails every time tbh

[upper sun]

i take it on purge

but idk

it doesnt feel great

[rigid sky]

You don't run Shriek then?

[upper sun]

no

[rigid sky]

Fair enough

[wind spruce]

Because it's absolutely garbage outside of scriers

[upper sun]

bubble woth purge

[wind spruce]

Think about battle med this way

[rigid sky]

I drop it because it is very antisynergistic with shriek

[wind spruce]

If you get 1,000 kills

It will proc 100 times

Which is 10 full bars of peril

[rigid sky]

It's just SG lengthening

[wind spruce]

10 full bars of peril over a game with one thousand kills is fuck all

[rigid sky]

Which is more valuable than speeding up the CD of it

Since it gets stronger the longer it lingers

[wind spruce]

Yep, only worth it with SG

[rich spindle]

I think of it as giving you enough room for that one extra cast

skipping a short quell animation every time it procs basically

[rigid sky]

SG changes everything about psyker tbh

[wind spruce]

The thing is that a) that's that's an exaggeration because all staves cost more than 10% per charge, b) dropping peril unexpectedly fucks with creeping flames, c) quelling after each cast doesn't take up much time due to it causing an animation cancel, and d) you can't consistently rely on it meaning if you're peril edging properly you'll just go for a quell anyway

[rich spindle]

a lot of the time im only a few % away from a safe cast

but yes I usually skip it

[wind spruce]

But obviously these are all pretty marginal differences, take what makes you happy

[north hemlock]

Thanks for all this, guys! I just started playing seriously and wanted to play something other than bubble assail trauma staff 😄

[wind spruce]

Except kinetic flayer

If you take that you are a bad person

[upper sun]

i mean theres also a chance the random quell can save you if you get a kill that quells while dying

but i dont wanna test that

[rich spindle]

also why do you take EE over anticipation?

[wind spruce]

That's more likely to actively breed a bad habit

[vestal fulcrum]

Nobody wants to rely on a random chance to save you from a mistake you have made

[upper sun]

wow its like you dont take yourself to the brink of death with every headshot on a staff with peril transfer

AAAAAAAAA nvm AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NVM

[wind spruce]

Anticipation just isn't that good. It increases your dodge linger time from 0.2s to 0.3s and gives you one extra dodge. Like, it's OK, but it's not very impactful.

On the other hand EE is one of the best talents in the game (build depending)

It let's you just sit in the middle of gunner and sniper fire cackling while you don't even bother to dodge because you're immune to bullets

[upper sun]

EE is a must for surge imo

the crit rate is so high it has very good uptime

[wind spruce]

Probably, but I don't use the new surge much, on gunker it's an even bigger must (unless you're using the revolver)

[wind spruce]

I don't use bad blessings

[upper sun]

ikno

[wind spruce]

Heh

[upper sun]

but but i got stuck with a transfer void staff and its not that bad

[wind spruce]

Does assail still trigger transfer

That shit was funny af

[upper sun]

🤔 prolly not but i wanna check

[rigid sky]

I liked transfer void before patch 13

But creeping flames invalidates it for me

[wind spruce]

Yeah if I was a bubble boi I might like it

[upper sun]

nope doesnt work

cant have shit in atoma

[wind spruce]

Fatshark do be ruining all the fun things

[upper sun]

oh no wait maybe

no nvm

[wind spruce]

Haha damn

[upper sun]

idk i feel like it works sometimes

im prolly not switching fast enough

sefoni dandruff removal when?

[wind spruce]

Nah I don't think it's working

[upper sun]

second try maybe

i wouldnt know i've never used transfer much

[wind spruce]

Left click will give you more time to switch

[untold niche]

ping me if you ever pick up void :v

[north hemlock]

haha I'm unfortunately starting a bit over since I no longer can access my dev account, but always happy to play with people 🙂 I'm pretty mid-tier though

[plucky flax]

Imagine grinding plasteels when you can just simply spawn them.

[north hemlock]

I may or may not have before I left

Suspect I still have a grind ahead of me though.

[last saddle]

Expand on this

[plucky flax]

[north hemlock]

They're saying as a former dev I should have just dumped plasteel in my account instead of grinding for it...I think

[last saddle]

ooooooooooooooooooooh damn I thought I had a chance to abuse some system

[hasty valve]

1st trial with assail dd went well 😄 (auric damnation)

[north hemlock]

I always explode with Assail

[plucky flax]

There used to be a plasteels bug. Where your upgrade would take way less.

[north hemlock]

oh damn, that sounds nice

[hasty valve]

venting shriek helps!

[last saddle]

Load bearing „used to be“😔

[halcyon gust]

Always remember to edge your Peril. If you hit above 90% good time to cool down

[patent wing]

in theory bubble with smite sounds great but EP with smite is shit so its bad

[cinder moon]

skill issue

EP smite is excellent

[patent wing]

u go left or right path

12,5% or guaranteed on elite kil

[cinder moon]

guaranteed on elite

i also don't use psychic leeching because it's redundant

[patent wing]

idk since it does not that much dmg i thought the mass stun makes 12,5% better

[cinder moon]

it's trivial to get EP stacks from just killing stuff

a 5% buff isn't worth it

[patent wing]

do u use the smite upgrades

[cinder moon]

this is my smite build https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b88aab3-1ace-484a-a1ae-63b4c89f1ac9/unlimited-power-3

[patent wing]

but i want smite with bubble :(

[cinder moon]

vent lets you smite for >30s in a lot of situations on damn+

[patent wing]

i know i was using this bvuild since beginning and i think it has its flaws

esp under gunnder fire

or sniper focus

or flamer

[cinder moon]

just vent at flamers/gunners

[patent wing]

if they are spread out

[cinder moon]

if there are that many flamers, bubble would just forestall the inevitable

gunners aren't a big deal if you have kinetic deflection and deflector sword

[marble crater]

Venting while smiting makes my game crash

[cinder moon]

yeah that seems to be a thing recently

[patent wing]

while im smiting

[cinder moon]

i crashed this mission for everyone in the lobby

[marble crater]

[cinder moon]

smite is situational, if there are spread out ranged units that the rest of the team is not dealing with, i just spam LMB from the staff

or walk at them with deflector going

[patent wing]

i didnt use deflector much but i thought a single gunner eats the toughness in like 2 sec

stam*

[rigid sky]

If you run Kinetic deflection it takes your peril first

[marble crater]

Kinetic deflection and a stamina curio are your friends

[patent wing]

i run both

[rigid sky]

And it's at a really friendly ratio

[patent wing]

still

i tried it once an deemed it useless

since it was holdding like 1-2 sec

[cinder moon]

best to slide dodge while deflecting

[patent wing]

yeah then i can just leave it

[cinder moon]

i only do the slow walk when i know me teammates are watching and i wanna look cool

[rigid sky]

If you have a good weapon for it you have empathic evasion too

[patent wing]

brb putting 3 +3 stam curios with +76 base rating

[rigid sky]

Dodging and using the psyker's disgustingly good toughness regeneration is an option

Also murder is good

Dead enemies tend to be bad shots

[cinder moon]

yeah since i take most of the toughness regen nodes in the top of the tree, KD+deflector is basically a personal bubble, just can't use it against flames or snipers

[rigid sky]

I think deflector is best for when you're in the intermediate parts of the skull curve

[cinder moon]

it's situational, just like smite, so they complement each other

relying on it is a noob move

[rigid sky]

Idk if it complements smite specifically

[patent wing]

idk i still sometimes die in situations where im focused by 3-4 gunners/reapers while dealing with melee

[rigid sky]

But yeah, they both have uses

[patent wing]

like not everytime but if things go bad

[rigid sky]

That's generally our killer

[patent wing]

open fields, outmanouverd etc

[rigid sky]

We have to focus range, and then the melee gets us with our toughness down

[patent wing]

the stun is just to bad

[rigid sky]

Tbh that is the circumstance that makes me like bubble most

[patent wing]

i want a fast paced staff like zarona

[cinder moon]

smite is great

[rigid sky]

It protects you from getting the shoots-into-bash combo

[patent wing]

all those clips are in an environment that already acts as a bubble :D

[cinder moon]

yeah, smite is situational

[patent wing]

situational for enemy amount

and type

[cinder moon]

plus it gives your teammates the freedom to move around without needing to be stuck inside a bubble

[patent wing]

but if you could bring your own bubble...

[rigid sky]

Smite's best use is to buy time for a Shriek imo

[patent wing]

well i dont force my team to hide in my bubble

they dont even pay rent

[cinder moon]

people will choose to do so because "bubble = safe zone"

no bubble, they don't get tricked into staying in one place

[rigid sky]

I like working with friendly bubbles tbh

You gotta know when to use it and when to push out from it

[cinder moon]

i actually really dislike bubbles since it's hard to see out of them

[rigid sky]

Rainbow?