reducing logistical strain on teammates :)
#psyker-class
torpid girder
radiant frigate
shoutout to the undisclosed type of force sword and dead weight blessing
cosmic sigil
you can not like to play guns on a psyker, and i understand but the ammo argument is soooo bullshit
like, please, you have infinite assail and brain burst
or infinite stun nades
radiant frigate
i am not a fan of gun psyker because it is weird to go my ranged weapon, pressing r and putting a new mag in
cosmic sigil
you can do horde clearing with shriek, create a safe spot on the go or go balls in with scryer
radiant frigate
like HUH? i already quelled?
cosmic sigil
psyker is probably the most versatile class
weary crane
RAHHH WHY CANT I USE PRESCIENCE AND SHRIEK
cosmic sigil
by like a mile
vestal fulcrum
Because... they're redundant
weary crane
The two below presience make you immune to ranged attacks, which makes the shield redundant, so I'm forced to go with gaze, but I want to play surge with crit build
vestal fulcrum
Gunlugger currently does everything a Skullbreaker does, but probably more efficiently, in a safer manner, and it doesn't involve awkward juggling of 4 crushers rushing your team's position
vestal fulcrum
The two below presience make you immune to ranged attacks, which makes the shiel...
One of them does, Anticipation doesn't do anything for ranged attacks, besides giving you an additional dodge to work with
weary crane
And duration?
vestal fulcrum
... we typed about this before
here.
Read the description, it's that shrimple
cinder moon
basically how i play shieldgryn with rumbler whenever there's multiple pals on the team/an ammo hungry vet
weary crane
Yeah... so it does help against ranged attacks
vestal fulcrum
The main effect? No. The extra dodge? Yes-ish?
The extra dodge is not that big of a deal, though
It can mostly help you move around with a staff out, since they only have 3 effective dodges
vestal fulcrum
The two below presience make you immune to ranged attacks, which makes the shiel...
Also, going back to this, it makes you somewhat immune to ranged attacks, but your teammates still can get shot, so the shield has the "supportive" ability, still, and it's not like you will be in dodge state against ranged attacks all the time, either
The shield makes a lot of safe space against shooters/certain specials in general, it definitely has merit on a Surge build
cinder moon
but then you can't shriek to cast like 5/6 surges real quick
cosmic sigil
I want a shaman ogryn tree
weary crane
I have 2 left
cinder moon
shriek is more of a safe space generator than bubble imo
vestal fulcrum
I have 2 left
Consider getting the green things at the top
Especially Perilous Combustion
It's a lot of extra potential killing power against groups with small elites involved
gunners/shotgunners, ragers to a certain extent also
cosmic sigil
Assail with soulstealer is nice
vestal fulcrum
I don't like Soulstealer with Surge, but they also have Assail, so it has more potential value
weary crane
What about true aim? It give even more crit
cinder moon
soulstealer works well with my surge/smite build that uses wildfire/shrieking flames
vestal fulcrum
Oh yeah, that's probably also a good idea
plucky flax
I don't run soulstealer on my surge smite creeping flames build. 
vestal fulcrum
I don't run soulstealer on my surge smite creeping flames build. <:staregryn:102...
Me neither
plucky flax
I don't have enough points.
rigid sky
Soulstealer and Quietitude are core imo
vestal fulcrum
Oh yeah, that's probably also a good idea
I would probably even get rid of 6 Warp Charges and Shield giving toughness regen to grab True Aim and up to 2 skills leading up to Perilous Combustion
plucky flax
I don't run soulstealer with my trauma build. 
1 crit with mettle gives full toughness. Since its per enemy.
rigid sky
I do question how much you need warp charges with shield
vestal fulcrum
I do question how much you need warp charges with shield
Not much, but Surge benefits a lot from Warp Charges in general
weary crane
I thought about using trauma instead
vestal fulcrum
Trauma would also be fine, but you don't need True Aim for Trauma, really, so there is a conflict of interest between Assail and Trauma in that regard
weary crane
Meddle + shield is enough to regen toughness tbh
Surge has better crit modifer right?
plucky flax
Yeah it has crit damage and extra crit chance.
weary crane
I considered trauma because theres a malestrom type that fking spams maulers and crushers
plucky flax
Blaze trauma decimate that modifier. (Solo gaming)
https://youtu.be/2PRiD-sWsNQ
plucky flax
Nein.
upper sun
I thought about using trauma instead
also the issue with assail is that you dont get psykentics aura which can give like the entire team like 2 more ults every encounter
radiant frigate
seeing so few points in the top part makes me a little uneasy
weary crane
also the issue with assail is that you dont get psykentics aura which can give l...
True, but with 6 warp charges I do not need a shield any quicker lol
They have designed the right side of the tree to be exclusive to guns
plucky flax
All my 'builds' is just creeping flames. 
vestal fulcrum
All my 'builds' is just creeping flames. <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
Good.
I gave in and made one Gaze build
A laspistol one for a Gunslinger
upper sun
thats what i use truama
vestal fulcrum
It’s… fun and effective, actually
vestal fulcrum
I probably would spend one more point in Siphon to get the 4% chance to gain WC on any kill made in coherency
For convenience, more than anything
upper sun
but you're the one doing the damage with trauma you dont need other ways of getting charges
plucky flax
A laspistol one for a Gunslinger
Laspistol build? It's just assail and creeping flames.
vestal fulcrum
Yeah, but you will not always kill elites with it
vestal fulcrum
Laspistol build? It's just assail and creeping flames. <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049...
It’s one of the possibilities
But Gaze gives you an obscene about of power for killing monstrosities, for instance
plucky flax
No 6 warp charges sadge
And ee is not good with trauma.
You don't have the fire rate of purga or assail.
upper sun
And ee is not good with trauma.
yeah i was gonna drop it for more toughness
vestal fulcrum
Yeah, I personally also dropped EE for the sake of… extra toughness, I think it was?
plucky flax
Ee is even not good with surge and it has much faster attack rate than trauma.
weary crane
I dont lol
Crit for the win
Although
Perfect timing works really well with soulblaze
But the soulblaze are all on the left side of the tree
vestal fulcrum
PT is easy to get on any build, though
upper sun
perfect timing is nice you can keep 5 stacks up with surge 24/7
vestal fulcrum
And soulblaze has like… two skills to support it
cinder moon
soulblaze gets a lot of its strength from edge case interactions/nodes that aren't intended to directly buff it
weary crane
I'm a little worried about the horde capability though, assail with ethereal should be enough. Or should I swap deimos with illsa?
plucky flax
What's your staff?
weary crane
Surge
weary crane
But my deimos is 550😞😞😞
vestal fulcrum
It's redundant
I do that
plucky flax
I don't rate assail with surge. But if you want to use it then assail does good horde clear, so I'd go with ds or knife.
Weave assail in while meleeing.
weary crane
I'm only using assail because it can make use of weakspot and crit
rigid sky
Tbh the end number is just something for the sake of satisfaction
vestal fulcrum
But my deimos is 550😞😞😞
Which… doesn’t matter in the slightest, if only for you using a 550 item. This does not translate to the item’s efficiency
rigid sky
550 weapons make you feel happy
cinder moon
assail still feels like aimlessly throwing marshmallows to me
rigid sky
But my actual bests, some of them are in the 490 range
rigid sky
assail still feels like aimlessly throwing marshmallows to me
What keystones do you run them with
plucky flax
My surge build use smite illisi surge with creeping flames.
Easiest build to play.
Just spam surge and creeping flames to win.
rigid sky
They feel so much beefier with Disrupt destiny
cinder moon
What keystones do you run them with
i tried whatever the meta assail build was a while ago, the mechanics of assail just do not click with me
rigid sky
But DD only really synergises with guns and voidstrike
rigid sky
If that meta assail build was with EP then I wouldn't like it either
cinder moon
like, i can see brain burst and smite doing work, assail shards just get lost and i have no idea where they're going
cinder moon
i also don't enjoy the way aiming assail works
rigid sky
If you RMB+LMB throw it costs more peril and does more damage
plucky flax
I swapped out slaughter dont at me
Slaughterer is not that good with deimos. Go uncanny.
weary crane
Assail cant either decimate a group or randomly hits the ground and does nothing
plucky flax
Deimos is not a good horde clear sword anyway so slaughterer doesn't help much.
Unless you are dead set on horde clearing with deimos.
weary crane
Ik this was an old build
rigid sky
Assail cant either decimate a group or randomly hits the ground and does nothing
You can't be using them with Disrupt Destiny then, they're crazy good with that
cinder moon
DD is also frustrating because it's totally random which targets get highlighted
rigid sky
Old Slaughterer was so good it worked even with zero synergy, yeah
rigid sky
DD is also frustrating because it's totally random which targets get highlighted
Yep :D
That's the fun part
cinder moon
and DD has limited range for highlighting targets, which is stupid considering assail is ranged
plucky flax
23 mins game nearly 500k damage 4 psykers 3 surge staves.
rigid sky
Voidstrike or guns can penetrate a crowd to kill an embedded DD target
upper sun
3 psyker games are either 20 minutes or 40 minutes
rigid sky
Or assail can randomly kill them too
upper sun
no middle ground
cinder moon
or i could just use smite
which always works
DD/assail is basically playing a slot machine with blitz, i hate it
upper sun
YES YES MORE RNG
rigid sky
DD is power fantasy stuff
cinder moon
if your power fantasy is not being able to deal with the target you want to deal with
rigid sky
Hit 15 stacks and absolutely fucking murder everything
cinder moon
and having some random poxwalker get highlighted
plucky flax
Oh realised that game was 4 psykers. One dude used revolver and 3 surge.
cinder moon
i have yet to see more than the one good assail/dd psyker in my randoms
plucky flax
There's no good psykers obviously.
cinder moon
had a guy who actually knew how to rmb/lmb assail
plucky flax
Bad class.
cinder moon
but i could tell he was putting in a lot more effort to be effective
meanwhile i just go zzzzzap hahaha
upper sun
360 zap no scope
potent echo
but i could tell he was putting in a lot more effort to be effective
Definitely, which makes it more rewarding if you care about things like that
weary crane
And the fact it take 50 minutes to reach a sniper because its dancing around everywhere
cinder moon
Definitely, which makes it more rewarding if you care about things like that
if the effort were consistently commensurate with the reward, it'd be interesting, but it's not, so, it isn't (to me)
meanwhile voidstrike and surge do exactly what i want
potent echo
Assail mainly solves the "7 spread out shooters shooting at you from all angles" for me, any kind of quickswap is mainly for style points now they nerfed the swapping 
wind spruce
if your power fantasy is not being able to deal with the target you want to deal...
The notion that you need to deal with the marked target is the problem your having with DD
Between voidstrike and venting shriek it's incredibly easy to maintain stacks
cinder moon
why would i want a skill that marks things i'm not trying to deal with?
wind spruce
And poxwalkers can't even get marked lol
wind spruce
why would i want a skill that marks things i'm not trying to deal with?
For the buff...
vestal fulcrum
And toughness replenishment, potentially, at least in desperate moments
wind spruce
And toughness replenishment, potentially, at least in desperate moments
Pretty irrelevant, tbh
You're getting shit tons back from warp kills and crits anyway
rich spindle
thats what i use truama
no toughness regen on peril gen?
vestal fulcrum
Hence desperate moments - I know the vast majority of toughness uptime is granted by skills up in the tree
wind spruce
no toughness regen on peril gen?
It's pretty shit
vestal fulcrum
It’s indeed pretty shit
rich spindle
rly
potent echo
You have much better places to put that skill point
wind spruce
Inner traquil is the best talent
Not by a long shot
It's so unnecessary with how quick quelling is now
rich spindle
i dont like to take inner tranquil either. I like to keep my peril high
potent echo
Inner tranquility the one that gives peril offset on kill? I want high peril so it actually hinders my playstyle
weary crane
i dont like to take inner tranquil either. I like to keep my peril high
Thats the whole point in it, it keeps you at high peril for a long time
It's best paired with shield thougg
wind spruce
Wut
rich spindle
I usually just quell for half a second and cast again
weary crane
Still disrupts warp flurry
wind spruce
I usually just quell for half a second and cast again
This guy fucks
wind spruce
Still disrupts warp flurry
No it doesn't
vestal fulcrum
It can keep you at high peril for an unspecified and unpredictable amount of time, very rarely still
wind spruce
Warp flurry doesn't drop off like it used to
potent echo
What does it mean that it keeps you at high peril
vestal fulcrum
Inner Tranq is not doing much at all
rich spindle
Its an opportunity cost issue. What are you giving up for it?
good point. usually I dont take the 6 warp charges
vestal fulcrum
What does it mean that it keeps you at high peril
I think the idea was that it quells you just enough to stick in another cast of your staff or whatever, before you would pass the PotW threshold, but the effect is so rare and procs so unpredictably it’s not a good argument to take it
weary crane
Deploy shield -> no charges, no peril res -> start killing -> gain warp charges and peril res -> continue killing at high peril
potent echo
You can do all that without talents
Peril res is also messes with edging which I hate
rich spindle
pause
weary crane
🤨
radiant frigate
But DD only really synergises with guns and voidstrike
what about melee
potent echo
For trauma I know I can full cast at 82% without exploding, peril res will make it kinda weird like sometimes you can do it at 86% or smth but either way the benefit isn't there because both are like 1~2 ticks of quelling
DD is nice with melee as it allows the duelling4 to properly oneshot mutants without crit
rich spindle
toughness gain with peril seems so good tho 🤔
basically +5% every few seconds during a fight
radiant frigate
from building peril you do not get that much
you get more from quelling
usually you do not need both
rich spindle
overkill?
vestal fulcrum
toughness gain with peril seems so good tho 🤔
basically +5% every few seconds ...
Consider this: does replenishing 0.25% total toughness per peril percentage point generated sound all that amazing, when compared to other options?
upper sun
you get more toughness from crits and its also a path to perfect timing
rich spindle
I could get 2 more warp charges if I take it off, so I guess i'll try that
vestal fulcrum
Quietude is DOUBLE that ratio, for an action you will be doing probably as often as you generate peril, and it works passively if you have a lot of spare peril that you can vent while doing something else
potent echo
It's like 5% toughness per staff cast, you probably get alot more from warp kills
rich spindle
yes i always take quietude
rigid sky
what about melee
I guess if you wanna go primarily melee, that too
potent echo
Quietude also makes more sense as you usually want toughness back after an exchange with shooters. Not really the other way round
radiant frigate
quietude also gives you a chunk of toughness when you use shriek
rich spindle
does it?
rigid sky
usually you do not need both
Both can be good, if you take the Swiss cheese model of psyker survivability
rich spindle
I thought it was manual quell only
radiant frigate
nope
potent echo
Any source of quelling
radiant frigate
all quell
rich spindle
wow. i was lied to
potent echo
Even exorcist I think lol
rich spindle
I stopped taking wildfire recently too
potent echo
Wildfire is 🤷♂️
rich spindle
does it uh. stack with staff crit soulblaze to 7 stacks
potent echo
No
rich spindle
yeah thats what I thought
rigid sky
Psyker dies when you take melee hits while below 100% toughness
radiant frigate
well, so does vet
rigid sky
It's not just about overall total toughness gain over the course of a full match
potent echo
Vet has 50 more HP so they can take 1 extra hit usually
rigid sky
It's about minimising windows where you are below 100%
vestal fulcrum
well, so does vet
Vet at least has Iron Will to not instantly drop to 0 toughness, and then health
radiant frigate
Vet has 50 more HP so they can take 1 extra hit usually
vet has the same hp
rigid sky
Every source of replenishment you can get your hands on counts
potent echo
Ah I'm thinking toughness nvm
vestal fulcrum
And VoC/Infiltrate is an instant toughness replenishment button, so that also helps
potent echo
In trouble? Press F
rigid sky
Although the peril gain one is weaker than the peril quell one, it's still another source that is active at another time.
It's much lower priority to pick though
rich spindle
Although the peril gain one is weaker than the peril quell one, it's still anoth...
that was my thinking
rigid sky
Probably only worth it if running EP keystone
rich spindle
constant toughness regen uptime
radiant frigate
Vet at least has Iron Will to not instantly drop to 0 toughness, and then health...
unfortunately this did not help me with a burstpoxer
rich spindle
some vets are so lazy they just shout and let the burster blow on them
potent echo
I think you would usually want toughness in chunks, things are either going well or going really bad, there's hardly an in between
rigid sky
Since EP keystone frees up lots of points
vestal fulcrum
unfortunately this did not help me with a burstpoxer
VoC has an upgrade for that, too
That ability is obscene
rigid sky
I think you would usually want toughness in chunks, things are either going well...
A lot of my HP hits are caused by bruisers sneaking behind me
radiant frigate
VoC has an upgrade for that, too
well yes but i still went to 0 toughness and straight into fire
rigid sky
And I don't know they are there until they bonk me
potent echo
Just have the VT2 shift mashing reflex on hearing the hit warning sound
potent echo
The sound is indeed scuffed
rich spindle
a lot of people dont take the brain burst speed after ability upgrade
I love it for boss dmg
vestal fulcrum
well yes but i still went to 0 toughness and straight into fire
😔
||skill issue 
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potent echo
It is pretty decent stress-free boss damage
But get me in there with a Deimos
I will single handedly grief my team by going for boss dps instead of killing specials
rich spindle
i think its probably the best beast of nurgle killer outside of scriers gaze shenanagins
rigid sky
a lot of people dont take the brain burst speed after ability upgrade
I can't budget it on for my Purgatus/WS
I've been considering dropping the 5 crit node for it
rich spindle
i drop wildfire and EE
rich spindle
true aim on purg?
rigid sky
Also skipped, I don't even have Kinetic deflection
rigid sky
It's difficult to casually quantify
rich spindle
also i dont know if the "immune for 1 sec" is lying or not lol
weary crane
Oh yeah
I cant remember who said it but someone did more soulblaze damage with surge than purga
rich spindle
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9ba67a89-c3e3-449e-8c74-dafcac...
I would do this exact same tree but switch EE for the brain burst speed
weary crane
Purga just takes too long to kill with too little stun
weary crane
Mettle should be enough with high crit chance
rich spindle
no soulsteal 😨
rigid sky
I wish I could see how much EE is helping
potent echo
But the same time to kill 20
Yeap that's its real strength, infinite cleave
rigid sky
It sounds incredible
potent echo
It only scales with density
rigid sky
But I can't know for sure
potent echo
I wish I could see how much EE is helping
What's EE?
rigid sky
My idea is that brain rupture is my team's last resort for killing certain targets
rigid sky
What's EE?
Empathic Evasion
rich spindle
purg when I flail a full rmb charge into a horde: this is the greatest weapon ever
purg when there is a crusher wave: mommy
rigid sky
Swiss cheese model, innit
potent echo
Sometimes you get shot to shit
rigid sky
Stack as many layers of "sometimes protects you" as you can
potent echo
It saved me once vs a sniper
rigid sky
purg when I flail a full rmb charge into a horde: this is the greatest weapon ev...
Burn them and then stick your Deimos into their face to stack uncanny
Suddenly they die
potent echo
As long as you don't rely on it blindly or give up something else I think it gives nice extra leeway
potent echo
Burn them and then stick your Deimos into their face to stack uncanny
My favourite playstyle, bosses melt
rigid sky
It's just another layer on top of soulsteal, mettle, essence harvest, quietitude
rich spindle
but there's also 4 ragers and maulers behind them so I need my trauma staff stagger crutch
potent echo
Purge lmb can stagger all of them though
rigid sky
And Purgatus is good enough
potent echo
You know about the purg lmb stagger?
I'm not kidding that it staggers most elites
With infinite cleave
As long as they are approaching you from one direction no elites can ever touch you
rigid sky
It is really good
I like using it on bursters
On something like hab dreyko finale though even that ends up being too slow to save you
rich spindle
i cant get bursters to explode after purg stagger
potent echo
Push them after you hear them jump
rigid sky
They have an animation change when they prime to blow
rich spindle
at that point I just melee push 😭
rigid sky
If your staff is already out though
Also if they are pouncing somebody else further away
potent echo
Do the staff special
potent echo
I only do gun bash like once every 30 times
You can just swap and push usually
Force sword double push also gives you that bit of extra distance which saved me more than once
rigid sky
I love the range on the PA part
potent echo
It's a really nice buff but kinda out of nowhere
rigid sky
It's the best part of the whole force sword family
It's the whole reason why Obscurus used to be our best melee weapon arguably
potent echo
They also let you dodge out of activation attacks
Before Deimos? Yea people should use it more to stop crushers or ragers
rigid sky
Yeah. It was between that and it being one of the few weapons that could oneshot Mutants at the time
weary crane
What other psyker weapons have crit stat?
Surge is the only one with crit bonus right?
still hearth
For the staves, yeah.
weary crane
Yondu build
near wyvern
Yondu build
Dodge talent is a waste of a point, it is bugged and doesn't increase dodge duration, you should remove point from it and put it into other assail buff
weary crane
Anticipation you mean?
smoky wigeon
@near wyvern IS IT BUGGED? oh goddamn
I'm having the hardest time comprehending synergy in psyker
weary crane
Well the fact it doesnt work with riposte i think is a bug too
smoky wigeon
It feels like my blessing just don't really...affect my overall build on my melee weapon
potent echo
melee psyker
they do have really good melee weapons but the talent tree doesnt have real support
smoky wigeon
I mean with the demios I can 1 shot so much
potent echo
yea with DD it one shots even more consistently
smoky wigeon
What's DD
potent echo
right keystone
smoky wigeon
I rock DD
potent echo
yea
smoky wigeon
I actually dig that keystone a lot
potent echo
im just waiting for one day they add some attack speed talent to psyker
smoky wigeon
I thought it was gonna be bad keeping 15 stacks
smoky wigeon
What do y'all do for bosses? Monstrosities?
Should I just be spamming flame thrower staff since that's what I rock?
weary crane
Kinetic deflection and unstable power for bosses
weary crane
Block the attacks to charge up then hit at max peril
smoky wigeon
Since I do more damage with more peril?
weary crane
If you have unstable power and warp rider yes
smoky wigeon
Kk.
What do y'all do for survivability?
smoky wigeon
I do so damn WELL but one mistake and I'm dead
upper sun
ikr
smoky wigeon
Guess that's the psyker life
weary crane
Kk.
What do y'all do for survivability?
Smite spam is the best for surviving lol
upper sun
stam toughness hp
upper sun
dodging is better than blocking anyways
upper sun
yes 🙂
smoky wigeon
Fuk
weary crane
Kk.
What do y'all do for survivability?
smoky wigeon
I like assail too much
weary crane
The main problem with assail is it stops you from getting some of the best talents
Does ranged damaged boost affect smite?
upper sun
it should
everything that isnt bleed burn melee or soulblaze should be considered ranged damage as far as i know
smoky wigeon
@weary crane what talents
weary crane
Psykinetic aura, and if you go for crit chance you cant get shriek
smoky wigeon
Shriek is good for crit chance?
smoky wigeon
The 5 percent crit chance is on the right side
I know literally nothing about crit chance builds
Also can I NOT get above 15 percent toughness curios do those NOT exist?
vestal fulcrum
16% curios are relatively easy to get
They appear at as low as 71 base rating
17% appear at 77, which is relatively rarer an appearance
still hearth
Keep rolling
weary crane
I'm questioning whether psychic vampire actually gives you more charges
Aura is increased by 50%
The chance something dies to soulblaze is quite low
vestal fulcrum
Things don’t have to die from Soulblaze for In Fire Reborn to proc
They just have to be affected by Soulblaze
vestal fulcrum
Thats ambiguous
Fatshark is not great at typing descriptions
smoky wigeon
You can get 30 percent damage DD is that worth it
potent echo
their first language isnt english so you can give them the benefit of doubt
smoky wigeon
But I guess that's a crit chance build? Idfk
vestal fulcrum
You can get 30 percent damage DD is that worth it
It’s unrealistically hard to keep up
potent echo
the extended duration one is better imo
15 is enough to let you hit most BP against mobs
like void oneshot gunner head etc
vestal fulcrum
<@286877952463863808> so...stick with 15?
15 on longer duration is much more realistic to keep up and get good value out of
rigid sky
15 stack DD is more than enough
With 30 stack, you'll have less than 15 stacks the vast majority of the time
Also 15 stack DD makes Assail absolutely fucking deadly
I think it's stronger than EP Assail, and it doesn't even have limited charges
Although I haven't verified the maths of that
rigid sky
That is true. I do love deflector.
It feels like it's relevant maybe one game in 5
but it saves that game entirely
radiant frigate
KD already just about guarantees resses
weary crane
Lighting storm isnt just one more target right, anyone know how many more it hits?
supple sedge
Sparkheads. Can you kill heretic horde slower? Want to kill them too!
untold niche
new skins look horrible
upper sun
zealot one is nice
foggy oak
yo anyone willing to help me get the malleus monstronum penance done?
halcyon gust
For curios what do y'all do?
1 +3 Stamina and 2 toughness
supple sedge
Ulgo use 1 tough 2 health. But am ogryn
cinder moon
2 toughness, 1 stam usually
jovial juniper
1 tough, 1 health, 1 stam
cinder moon
on my dueling sword kit i have all stam, fun times
no KD on that build so the extra stam helps
supple sedge
Sparkheads have queshion for yous
vestal fulcrum
For curios what do y'all do?
2x toughness, 1x stamina
jovial juniper
1 tough, 1 health, 1 stam
Just remembered that I have an extra wound instead of 1 tough
cinder moon
Sparkheads have queshion for yous
what is it, hefty associate?
vestal fulcrum
Sparkheads have queshion for yous
Do ask
restive ice
For curios what do y'all do?
+3 wounds and become a suicide bomber
supple sedge
what is it, hefty associate?
Why some of you scream vacum capsule?
upper sun
VACUME CAPSULE
vestal fulcrum
Why some of you scream vacum capsule?
I don’t think this is particularly relevant to Psykers only
jovial juniper
Even zealots started doing so
supple sedge
Dunno. Only heard yous screamin it
vestal fulcrum
But the male Loner has a great delivery in one of these lines
cinder moon
+3 wounds and become a suicide bomber
check the icon for my malice/heresy meme build that's literally all wound curios 
upper sun
I don’t think this is particularly relevant to Psykers only
VACUME CAPSULE shirtless zealot VACUME CAPSULE
supple sedge
How Ulgo say it?
upper sun
its a mod
vestal fulcrum
How Ulgo say it?
Consider this: everyone can scream VC on Spireside and Logistratum missions, by pinging the vacuum containers
supple sedge
Aww... hate nog getting mod
vestal fulcrum
But I more often see Zealots spontaneously exclaiming that they have spotted a vacuum canister
supple sedge
Consider this: everyone can scream VC on Spireside and Logistratum missions, by ...
What it look like?
vestal fulcrum
What it look like?
It’s the special issue ammunitions or a plague container, on end events in these missions
Hexagonal, tall shape
supple sedge
So... like at end where we get ammo from trains? Ulgo ping it?
vestal fulcrum
Yeah, exactly these
weary crane
I love the fact you can inspect capsules lol
supple sedge
Ulgo on consol. It work?
supple sedge
I love the fact you can inspect capsules lol
WHAT?! HAVE TO DO IT NOW!!
jovial juniper
Ulgo on consol. It work?
Yes
vestal fulcrum
Ulgo on consol. It work?
I think as long as you can ping them, yes
upper sun
you can inspect anything
supple sedge
weary crane
you can inspect anything
Yeah but with capsules theres like no time to do it
upper sun
theres always time
supple sedge
Sparkheads opened Ulgo third eye!
supple sedge
weary crane
I was thinking of using this for melee maelstrom
jovial juniper
theres always time
Me as the last player alive with 2 hordes incoming
supple sedge
Need be achivement!
weary crane
And this for ranged malestrom
upper sun
VACUME CAPSULES should be worth dockets if you bring them to the end
halcyon gust
My general purpose build I use with Void strike
upper sun
i have something similar only shriek last warp siphon and the other peril+toughness thing
jovial juniper
VACUME CAPSULES should be worth dockets if you bring them to the end
We should have a mission where in the first 10 minutes or so we carry a capsule around
upper sun
ikr escord missions are like in every early shooter game
they should just copy any tf2 game mode that can fit the game
halcyon gust
Would be a pain in the ass if it is done poorly
weary crane
And this for ranged malestrom
I wanna try this out because nobody plays this
lilac plover
seer > not seer
upper sun
payload and control point can work for DT
halcyon gust
Escorting a tank can work to deal with a Heretic fortification can work easily
supple sedge
MannVSMachine too
halcyon gust
A hold out defense can work as well. With the reason is you're providing fire support as a different team gather as much supplies as possible from a location
upper sun
GW would never allow public modding but imagine darktide with tf2 levels of custom games
halcyon gust
A hold out defense can work as well. With the reason is you're providing fire su...
Every successful wave clear gets you a bit of money + resources and every 5th wave is a boss wave.
patent steeple
btw, what blitz would be good for Columbus IAG gunker?
my two considered options are either Assail with the recharge time augment, or Brain Rupture with Kinetic Flayer (so I can proc it while shooting/slashing at things)
halcyon gust
Assail for better horde clear, Brain Rupture for better single target on stuff like Crushers
mental rock
Gun psykers go assail usually
patent steeple
Assail for better horde clear, Brain Rupture for better single target on stuff l...
I unironically have illisi for horde clear, so I guess I might as well try out Rupture...
the only problem will be not having access to Mind in Motion tho
cinder moon
i'm trying this out with my emperor blessed laspistol and a deflector illisi, first match was a fail because my teammates were goombas, but it seemed to be pretty good until they crumbled
patent steeple
ok, but should I grab both Empathic Evasion (crits give ranged dodge for 1 sec) and Anticipation (+50% dodge duration and +1 max dodge), or just one of the two? I kinda wanna take either Mettle or Soulstealer...
Soulstealer would be good for melee situations (because I use illisi with gunker), but Mettle would be good with crits and Columbus IAG is also good with crits...
rigid sky
Anticipation is slightly less good than it seems
mental rock
Yeah anticipation does not increase dodge duration atm
radiant frigate
take both mettle and soulstealer
rigid sky
I would probably drop the peril gain gives toughness one
rigid sky
Hmm actually though
patent steeple
yeah.. I have been using warp expenditure this whole time on gunker...
rigid sky
Idk if I would take soulstealer without assail on gunker
It's mostly proccing off Kinetic flayer (which is dogshit either way)
patent steeple
and I can't even afford Empyrean Empowerment on my Warp Charges...
radiant frigate
warp charges make me go
radiant frigate
"let me just enter my burst phase and- where are my damage stacks"
mental rock
Yeah DD will also get you true aim which is nutty
radiant frigate
true aim is based
rigid sky
But scrier's gaze, Disrupt Destiny and guns are made for each other
patent steeple
Yeah DD will also get you true aim which is nutty
I do have True Aim, but DD is garbage iirc, and I dunno if I should use Better Blitzes on gunker...
rigid sky
DD is not garbage
mental rock
If you think DD is garbage it's probably a skill issue
rigid sky
You have to take the 30 second duration variant
But it's quite easy to maintain that
It's easiest (and strongest) with guns, voidstrike, and assail
untold niche
zealot one is nice
mediocre i feel
rigid sky
Since they all trigger it easily and also are all benefited by it a lot
patent steeple
You have to take the 30 second duration variant
yeah, but the variety of enemies it can tag is very limited from what I remember...
rigid sky
yeah, but the variety of enemies it can tag is very limited from what I remember...
Doesn't matter, and not that limited
It can be anything smaller than an ogryn
Anything that can be killed by Haymaker
But the damage then applies to everything you do
plucky flax
If you think DD is garbage it's probably a skill issue
Tru I succ bad
rigid sky
At 15 stacks you have 15% damage, 30% critical damage and 37.5% weakspot damage bonuses
untold niche
For curios what do y'all do?
everyone says +3 stam and x2 +toughness
but you can run x3 + toughness
whats important is that for perks you run x3 CDR like a real man to shout as much as possible
radiant frigate
suddenly illisi does Big Number™️
i have been considering swapping off my triple DR setup
rigid sky
And CIAG multipliers are actually absurd
radiant frigate
not a lot of good things to take for psyker on curios
weary crane
Can soulblaze crit?
rigid sky
2.2 on weakspot
radiant frigate
no
untold niche
did anyone try not running peril based damage node and run DD 30 max stacks
plucky flax
Hp toughness toughness regen sniper resist all gud to me
mental rock
Crits will apply 2x soulblaze though
rigid sky
So the weakspot and crit bonuses are very strong compared with most other weapons
I did try 30 stack DD on my first Psyker game in patch 13
It was enough for me to almost quit darktide lmao
plucky flax
Me I can't hit head.
untold niche
It was enough for me to almost quit darktide lmao
why
plucky flax
Aiming hard
untold niche
i mean 30 + x3 stack for headshot
rigid sky
Because keeping up a 15 second duration buff is fucking miserable
untold niche
wait can't you take both
radiant frigate
Hp toughness toughness regen sniper resist all gud to me
gunner DR denier?
untold niche
they should change it then
rigid sky
Mutually exclusive
If they made stacks fall off maybe one every 5 seconds once it expires it'd be usable
untold niche
Me I can't hit head.
2badvoidstrike2gud
plucky flax
gunner DR denier?
I never need it. If you need it then sure.
untold niche
Hp toughness toughness regen sniper resist all gud to me
where CDR >:(
cdr true best curio perl
radiant frigate
and there's me
untold niche
better than gunner resist
plucky flax
No I prefer extra hp.
untold niche
cause u lame
radiant frigate
gunner flamer bomber DR 
plucky flax
I need it for double grims hishock run.
untold niche
I need it for double grims hishock run.
oh i dun touch grims
not hardcore like u
sorry
plucky flax
Yeah only top 1% can play grims at high level.
radiant frigate
grims are stupid and smelly
quartz barn
Ngl rather than fully focussing on stack upkeep is just see it as a nice passive
plucky flax
Mfw the team beg me to throw away the grim.
untold niche
grim = 1 bad poxy walker bye bye
cinder moon
grims on damn+ is purely 🇲 asochism
can't say that last word because it gets botted for some reason
radiant frigate
grim does psychic damage to me
upper sun
Mfw the team beg me to throw away the grim.
If the psyker carries the grim thats on them
radiant frigate
kind of like plasma vets
quartz barn
Me when i shoot the poxy boi as teammate runs in for a push 
upper sun
i legit do not care what anyone does on marty zealot
untold niche
Me when i shoot the poxy boi as teammate runs in for a push <:thumbsup_ogryn:106...
griefer
upper sun
go ahead go double grim in auric take all the ammo
quartz barn
No that way i can flex solo skills
untold niche
i playing vet now
radiant frigate
spectator mode
untold niche
ez class
quartz barn
Free karma
upper sun
i playing vet now
had one dude pick up a grim in auric which got me to 50% hp in auric
radiant frigate
i think the only vet i enjoy is power sword/revolver
upper sun
then he spammed healthing station so i couldnt heal
jovial juniper
My martyr build on my back pocket
untold niche
i think the only vet i enjoy is power sword/revolver
pee sword and pee gun for the gay
upper sun
vet peepee build
radiant frigate
also considerable
cinder moon
ah, the classic vet that doesn't shoot shooters
me wondering why i have to LMB all the shooters with surge staff
radiant frigate
yeah i slice them
untold niche
ah, the classic vet that doesn't shoot shooters
wym i always get highest ranged elite and ranged lesser kills
quartz barn
Tbf the build doesnt really matter as long as you have shout
rigid sky
Some guns aren't meant for shooting shooters
radiant frigate
what about it
rigid sky
the plasma's bad at it for example and it's probably the best ranged weapon for vets
cinder moon
wym i always get highest ranged elite and ranged lesser kills
99% of shotgun vets i see just don't shoot the shooters lmao
spice veldt
cuz you can just melee ranged enemies
plucky flax
If the psyker carries the grim thats on them
I am the psyker with the grim.
quartz barn
Also just run bubble on psyk lmao
untold niche
99% of shotgun vets i see just don't shoot the shooters lmao
you need to open ur eyes
spice veldt
is it a meme that you have to only fight ranged enemies with ranged weapons lmao
radiant frigate
that's called being selfish in war
quartz barn
Or shout ig
rigid sky
So long as somebody is dealing with them it's fine
doesn't have to be the vet
it's not the old days where every vet had Volley Fire
untold niche
kant shotgun is a sniper
upper sun
I am the psyker with the grim.
either you die with it or clutch with it its fine
spice veldt
clearly they have no responsibility to take care of ranged enemies just cuz a vet is on the team
cinder moon
people ignoring shooters is why i keep deflector and kd tbh
untold niche
within 20 meters at least
quartz barn
Just be ogryn with a shield and hold block ez clap
rigid sky
people ignoring shooters is why i keep deflector and kd tbh
just shout at the shooters tbh
venting shriek is a great anti-shooter
radiant frigate
yeah
untold niche
clearly they have no responsibility to take care of ranged enemies just cuz a ve...
see arco get it
but ya me me
rigid sky
the range on it is actually disgusting
spice veldt
so true
radiant frigate
or assail in their general direction
cinder moon
i know vent reaches 40m or so
radiant frigate
assail pretty much solos shooters
cinder moon
i use it to free dogged teammates through walls/floors a lot
radiant frigate
Yes
quartz barn
Also you dont even need deflector to be safe from gunners
rigid sky
This is why I like warp siphon with shriek so much
quartz barn
If you dodge a bunch you'll be fine as well
plucky flax
clearly they have no responsibility to take care of ranged enemies just cuz a ve...
Vet on the team he can kill all shooters not my problem anymore. 
cinder moon
the situations in which i get annoyed at a vet not doing their job, deflector is handy because shooters are spread out all over the place and the vet is doing their worst zealot impression
quartz barn
Or just run to the side like the game wants you to, but no one ever does that
spice veldt
shame, can't believe the other classes are helpless against ranged enemies w/o a vet
jovial juniper
Also you dont even need deflector to be safe from gunners
The time where you don't have deflector is the time you wish you had
cinder moon
with a competent team i generally can go through auric maelstrom with no HP curios and only touch a medicae once or twice at most, then there are regular damnation missions where i fucking die because there are shooters literally everywhere and the vet is busy magdumping into hordes
spice veldt
this is a pub moment irrespective of the class that they are on
jovial juniper
Ds4 slide dodge and you never get hit
Only a Sith deals in absolute
spice veldt
and like, just run a generalist build or go premade if you dislike it so much
jovial juniper
quartz barn
Ye just like hm twins was supposedly impossible without zealot
spice veldt
it shouldn't be a shocker that generalist builds are preferred if you're pubbing
quartz barn
Meanwhilr all of them were dead weight
cinder moon
i have some basic expectations of the kind of people that play particular classes, usually vets shoot things, but sometimes they shoot all the things irrespective of target priority
plucky flax
I remember getting flamed for playing psyker at hm twins.
radiant frigate
hm twins had 2 zealots when i did it (i was one of them)
spice veldt
so you're just under a mentality of role adherence
plucky flax
Then after the round they're like okay u gud
spice veldt
in a game where the boundaries between class roles is pretty loose
quartz barn
Mfw i hard carry
cinder moon
why play veteran if you're not going to shoot stuff?
particularly the things that shoot back
radiant frigate
why play veteran if you're not going to shoot stuff?
power sword and voc
merc kruber in space gaming
simple
cinder moon
still have a gun
quartz barn
Vet is mostly a shield bot
cinder moon
use it
spice veldt
cuz psword exists and I do get to magdump in certain situations
jovial juniper
Yeah, that's why I keep a Vraks 7 to deal with ranged as a zealot
upper sun
and like, just run a generalist build or go premade if you dislike it so much
premade is too easy i think i stumbled on a team from the discord once in quickplay and hab dreyko took 24 minutes even though one guy went down 3 times
cinder moon
clutching pubs is 90% of the fun anyway
radiant frigate
i should return to melee psyker
quartz barn
Highly depends
radiant frigate
with wildfire and blazing surge voidstrike
plucky flax
why play veteran if you're not going to shoot stuff?
Because game is fun and people should be able to play how they want. 
spice veldt
tragic
quartz barn
The only reason i got into lowmanning AM is because some people are just unable to do anything
cinder moon
Because game is fun and people should be able to play how they want. <a:SadgeCry...
that argument breaks down when people playing how they want is directly detrimental to other peoples' experience
this is a team game and not being a team player is tantamount to griefing
spice veldt
that argument breaks down if you make the active choice to quickplay
upper sun
Because game is fun and people should be able to play how they want. <a:SadgeCry...
nah im sorry but if you play vet without survivalist and bring an ammo hungry weapon you're fucking over the rest of the team hard
spice veldt
you are literally volunteering yourself to the whims of the pubs
upper sun
esp if they miss a lot which many do
plucky flax
Eh idc other guys. I play for myself. I don't care what others do. If they steal all ammo then I'd just use melee more.
cinder moon
you are literally volunteering yourself to the whims of the pubs
as if quickplay is somehow different than manually picking a mission from the board?
plucky flax
I don't rage over other people's choices.
quartz barn
that argument breaks down when people playing how they want is directly detrimen...
Literally everyone ive seen that use this argument suck on their own
spice veldt
as if quickplay is somehow different than manually picking a mission from the bo...
oh oops my wording was too specific
upper sun
Eh idc other guys. I play for myself. I don't care what others do. If they steal...
which is why i play psyker and zealot
spice veldt
I meant pubbing in general
untold niche
this game stopped being a team game when every class can be built to do everything
upper sun
as if quickplay is somehow different than manually picking a mission from the bo...
more plasteel
spice veldt
just go make a premade if you want people to play in a specific way
upper sun
i would barrel everyone on the team for 10 extra plasteel ngl
untold niche
everytime commodore says
DO YOU HAVE THE URGE TO SPLURGE
cinder moon
it's one thing to hot drop into a mission and have weird team comp because of it, but i do pay attention to what people are bringing during the lobby
spice veldt
then you can just leave if you don't like a build
untold niche
it's one thing to hot drop into a mission and have weird team comp because of it...
just build so you can handle everything ezpz
spice veldt
and like, it's pubs
quartz barn
Theres no need to play off of teammates
cinder moon
that's why i go smite/surge 95% of the time i qp
upper sun
yeah you kinda need one tool for everything for pubs
quartz barn
Just stick together and you'll be fine
untold niche
kill everything
upper sun
you cant go purge-smite as psyker in pubs
spice veldt
90% of them are just not going to do that well anyways, though that percentage is lower now that only the long time players remain
upper sun
you need something for heavies and snipers
quartz barn
Void
untold niche
90% of them are just not going to do that well anyways, though that percentage i...
left pro players like myself only
untold niche
i think you complaining too much over a casual game mr knite
quartz barn
How is spamming bubble bad?
upper sun
90% of them are just not going to do that well anyways, though that percentage i...
some new people still make it to auric
spice veldt
mfs need an invite only league for darktide
cinder moon
How is spamming bubble bad?
because they blow up 😂
upper sun
i quick played into a game where one dude was clutching a game for two other no frames
guys a saint
quartz barn
Bubble doesnt increase peril tho
cinder moon
it doesn't decrease it either
vestal fulcrum
i quick played into a game where one dude was clutching a game for two other no ...
I’m a no frame 
cinder moon
they're not mutually inclusive
upper sun
I’m a no frame <:angymorrow:1062670568916267038>
true level 800
vestal fulcrum
I quite literally use Rejects Will Rise frame
untold niche
mfs need an invite only league for darktide
ya i want to play with 0ping with you and agent
and boodendorf
4 psyker, each one has a different staff
untold niche
>true level 800
all frame suck anyway
upper sun
all frame suck anyway
you gotta get warhammer+ for the good frames
cinder moon
mancunio campaign frame to make people ask where you got it
untold niche
i actually like the 1000 kill scab tie more than the hard mode twins
but hard mode twins is more of a flex
spice veldt
I'll hop back on Psyker when we get a 2h force sword (and single target staff pretty pwease)
untold niche
I'll hop back on Psyker when we get a 2h force sword (and single target staff pr...
u alr have surge
and surge suk
vestal fulcrum
Arco, did you play Vermintide 1?
vestal fulcrum
Hmmm
spice veldt
never played vt 1 or 2
untold niche
single target precision staff
use a shit void
xD
spice veldt
yes
upper sun
🤔
untold niche
can't you build for void lmb
quartz barn
summons bullet
spice veldt
I hate projectile weapons if they aren't a quake plasmagun
vestal fulcrum
never played vt 1 or 2
Would you like to see a showcase of how Bolt staff performed in the first game?
vestal fulcrum
vestal fulcrum
See this shit, this is lit
upper sun
https://youtu.be/TLBxacTqFCU?si=u4AUg4nB-_VZMjKX
AYO IS THIS MORROWIND
upper sun
VT1 is made in source isnt it?
vestal fulcrum
It’s not
upper sun
i feel like im looking at a modded L4D game
upper sun
not for long you cant trust autodesk to maintain software
vestal fulcrum
https://youtu.be/TLBxacTqFCU?si=u4AUg4nB-_VZMjKX
In regard to it, if FS ever add Bolt staff in any iteration to DT
Disrupt Destiny (in its current iteration) will be ridiculous with it
spice veldt
hell yeah
+35% warp damage + warp rider + dd
psyker has a lot of damage buffs that haven't seen an opportunity to stack together properly because of the lack of a warp precision single target staff
vestal fulcrum
Even VT2 Bolt Staff would be "nice", just without the trueflight mechanics 
cinder moon
I hate projectile weapons if they aren't a quake plasmagun
q3a plasma was the shit
also q3a railgun
patent steeple
btw, I kinda have no clue whether or not I should take off Quicker Recharge from Assail and put the point into the 20% chance to quell peril on DD target kill (Purloin Providence) on my gunker build...
untold niche
quake 3 arena?
i think you shluldnt shortform that lol
untold niche
btw, I kinda have no clue whether or not I should take off Quicker Recharge from...
if strictly fcompare those 2, i think keep quicker recharge
patent steeple
if strictly fcompare those 2, i think keep quicker recharge
my gunker build can't exactly afford much extra points, aside from quicker Assail recharge and +20% Toughness DR from Scrier Gaze...
plucky flax
Go EP assail and spam it.
lunar hollow
90% of them are just not going to do that well anyways, though that percentage i...
the only decent op weapon players i get are plasma vets
cinder moon
quake 3 arena?
i think you shluldnt shortform that lol
yes, why not
lunar hollow
all pub void psykers are doomed to the fate of somehow killing nothing
cinder moon
skrill issue
untold niche
yes, why not
werent you the same guy that short formed something else and nobody got it
cinder moon
cinder moon
q3a is the commonly accepted abbreviation
cinder moon
were you referring to whomever was abbreviating toughness and problem in a weird way?
cinder moon
damnit hadron
orchid shadow
Anyone have an issue with bluetooth headphones having no sound as soon as you're in the mission, but working fine in the Mourning Star
still hearth
That happened to me actually. It seems to be something with the bluetooth software being weird about the in-game voice chat.
I couldn't find a way to fix it.
orchid shadow
Booo, it just started happening after working fine for 6 months.
upper sun
infinite loadscreen 4 times today
do you switch chars a lot?
cinder moon
no
upper sun
i mostly get it when i switch
ok i jinxed it
5 minutes and counting after leaving a mission
subtle swift
finally found surge.... over 1000 hours in the game if you count my gamepass account and steam together lol
upper sun
i got it off melk
upper sun
maybe u should get luckier
fresh reef
Hey gamers
smoky wigeon
All the @s make me think we are getting the damn dev blog smh
fresh reef
Has literally anything changed in the past few months? Gonna reinstall later today
New tech, builds, etc?
subtle swift
there. now i just need to roll void staves till i get one with a better than 15% perk
fresh reef
Neat
upper sun
there. now i just need to roll void staves till i get one with a better than 15%...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
SOOOOOOOO BRIGHT
subtle swift
yeah they said end of the month. i wonder if they will actually wait till the last day lol
subtle swift
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
looks like that in pics with hdr on
patent steeple
ok, gunker feels nice for me to play finally, but there are 2 issues:
-
I need to run soulstealer instead of Mettle to gain Toughness back more easily, as most of my horde clear comes from Assail...
-
My teammates keep killing my DD targets, so I never get the stacks...
fresh reef
ok, gunker feels nice for me to play finally, but there are 2 issues:
1. I need...
There is nothing more kill-theft attracting than a blue glow
Even if they literally cant see it
subtle swift
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
this is HDR off
upper sun
ah comfy
rigid sky
ok, gunker feels nice for me to play finally, but there are 2 issues:
1. I need...
Run both
Also if your DD is about to fall off it's safer to just pull your gun out and execute the blue bastard
Assail is good for building stacks but unreliable
vestal fulcrum
Or… shoot them, because merely hitting your target will refresh DD’s duration
rigid sky
That too
patent steeple
Run both
I cannot exactly afford both Toughness Gain talents, if that's what you mean...
Unless... Is the 20% extra TDR from the last Scrier augment truly necessary/good if I just spend most of Scrier quelling to get more stacks of the 10 sec damage bonus?
rigid sky
I will link my build in a little while
vestal fulcrum
I don’t think the TDR from Scrier is significant enough to even consider
vestal fulcrum
You will still fold like a house of cards when hit by any attacks with either high base damage, or with additional toughness damage multiplier (like bruiser attacks)
rigid sky
It's a bit rough, I think I might have taken inspiring presence because I didn't realise it was shit at the time
patent steeple
I don’t think the TDR from Scrier is significant enough to even consider
I mean its like what, 13.33% less than the max TDR gainable from One With The Warp... idr the specific max percentage lol
rigid sky
But apart from that this is my build I think
Wait derp
Not mind in motion
The one next to it
Although tbf you could take battle meditation off in favour of it
You quell surprisingly a lot with gunker
patent steeple
I run Solidity, because then I can outquell the peril ramp-up during Scrier...
vestal fulcrum
I mean its like what, 13.33% less than the max TDR gainable from One With The Wa...
It’s 13.33 percentage points, yeah
rigid sky
Solidity is so overrated
vestal fulcrum
It’s not nothing, but you can’t really bank on it greatly
rigid sky
That entire left leg is a point tax to get to warp siphon
Crack it open and put it elsewhere
vestal fulcrum
I run Solidity, because then I can outquell the peril ramp-up during Scrier...
Trying to keep it going as long as possible is somewhat futile if redundant, most of the time, IMO
patent steeple
Trying to keep it going as long as possible is somewhat futile if redundant, mos...
but then I would only get to around 6-8 stacks...
vestal fulcrum
You typically only ever use Gaze to get a stat and finesse boost, and expend it on whatever is in front of you or soon will be in front of you
Well, I typically get to 11-13 without doing anything out of ordinary, as long as I kill things as I go
You have to kill things to maintain the effect
untold niche
this is HDR off
quell speed low, but so long as from 100% peril, if you quell 2 ticks and get around 80% or get to fire a full charged shot without bursting thats good enough
jovial juniper
You have to kill things to maintain the effect
You can also quell until your quell speed gets surpassed by the speed of peril building
Usually, quelling with a Warp weapon and the speed boost of Gaze is as fast as Mind in motion
vestal fulcrum
Yeah but quelling makes it so you lose the precious time to spend the buff on something
jovial juniper
Indeed
vestal fulcrum
And I usually prefer just spending the buff, even if I don’t make the most out of its effect
Maintaining it for 15+ stacks is just not realistic without some external level of support and/or luck (say, Battle Meditation or Purloin Providence)
vestal fulcrum
Like Exorcist blessing on FS, which is garbage
jovial juniper
I love exorcist on my Illisi, I love using the special to clear hordes, I love it not working because that's not how exorcist works
On hindsight, if exorcist activated by just hitting weakspots once, you could infinitely cleave through hordes with Illisi
vestal fulcrum
If Exorcist activated multiple times per swings, there would have been some merit to keep it, and it might even have been competitive with some blessings setups
But it's not proccing multiple times per swing, it's just ONE proc of -5% peril per swing
cinder moon
damn that’s lame
I had a thought about trying to use an exorcist sword with scriers for the memes but I guess that’s out
jovial juniper
Yeah, not effective
vestal fulcrum
I mean, you can use it, but at that point IDK why wouldn't you just use Unstable Power
cinder moon
because I wanted to keep scriers up for as long as possible
jovial juniper
Yeah, not effective
or rather, as effective as one might think
vestal fulcrum
But the game doesn't really give you enough of a good reason to keep it up as long as possible
cinder moon
for the memes
cinder moon
I was trying this out earlier with laspistol/deflector illisi but all of my pub teams today have had sub-30s or just crumble so I couldn’t get a proper feel for it
had the thought about exorcist scriers while illisi horde clearing with scriers up
dusk void
I was trying this out earlier with laspistol/deflector illisi but all of my pub ...
I see you 👀 you wannabe gunker. I should definitely give one of my guns a try on a mission. I’m so used to not picking up ammo
cinder moon
my other gunker build ended up just being my voidstrike build
got this great laspistol so i wanna use it
dusk void
Is the Columbus gun any good tho? I’ve heard good reviews about it
And that I have it in my inventory, but never bother to use it
frail harness
Columnus IAG is great. Columnus braced is pretty bad tbh
torn grove
Is the Columbus iag the best for Gun psyker?
upper sun
got this great laspistol so i wanna use it
how does a laser have stopping power?
upper sun
Columnus IAG is great. Columnus braced is pretty bad tbh
graia braced is fun
upper sun
i am not a plane
cinder moon
you ever catch a laser beam in your eye? shit hurts
upper sun
it just makes me run at the person shooting it faster
jovial juniper
Catch the weight of light powered by crystal
Hmmm, I suppose the small weapons aren't using crystals
near wyvern
<@345531303942291457> IS IT BUGGED? oh goddamn
You can check The Psyker Atheneum to see what the talents actually do. (Google it)
upper sun
yeah its such a nice guide thanks to whoever wrote that